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From YouTube: Upper Magnolia Community Meeting - Feb. 3, 2022
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Upper Magnolia Community Meeting - Feb. 3, 2022
A
I
know
this
may
not
be
the
opportune
way
to
have
a
meeting
like
this,
recognizing
that
we
have
limitations.
We
have
limitations
due
to
covid
that
we've
been
dealing
with
now
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
so
you
know
having
this
opportunity
to
have
and
allow
folks
to
join
us.
Virtually
is
a
great
way.
We're
live
streaming
via
facebook,
live
we're
on
the
county's
youtube
channel
and
we're
broadcasting
on
comcast,
98
and
verizon
28
on
the
cable
channels.
A
So
we
are
using
every
mechanism
available
to
us,
and
I
will
tell
you:
we've
learned
some
good
things
about
that
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future.
We
did
make
the
decision.
This
is
a
county-wide
project.
You
know
five
of
us
on
the
board
of
supervisors.
Five
planning
commissioners
are
all
engaged
along
with
our
staff
as
we
investigate
this
project.
So
moving
this
to
a
central
location,
allowing
for
all
of
these
auxiliary
opportunities
to
engage
our
community
at
large
was
critically
important
to
us.
You
know
as
well.
A
So
you
will
see
our
staff
circulating
around
the
room
with
note
cards
with
pencils
and
pens
if
they
need
them.
Please
just
you
know,
raise
your
hand
and
someone
will
help
identify
and
get
you
note
cards
get
you
a
writing
instrument
if
you
need
one
and
then
collect
those
cards
which
will
be
filtered
through
as
well,
so
that
we
can
address
those
questions,
I
don't.
A
I
do
know
that
that
many
have
been
engaged
in
this
process
and
some
are
newer
to
the
process,
but
I
want
to
let
you
know
you
know
this
process
is
ongoing
and
you're
going
to
continue
to
have
opportunities
to
express
opinions
and
express
thoughts.
We
have
our
public
portals
that
have
been
open
and
will
continue
to
be
open
to
take
citizen
comments.
A
Everybody
on
this
board
as
well
as
I
know,
our
colleagues
on
the
planning
commission
are
reading
those
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
we're
taking
some
of
those
questions
that
are
posed
there
or
thoughts
that
are
posed
there
into
consideration
and
working
through
this
project
with
our
staff.
You
know
as
well
as
the
fact
that
then
there
will
be
public
hearings
by
both
the
planning
commission
when
they
hear
the
case
and
this
board
of
supervisors.
A
So
please
take
advantage
of
those
opportunities,
and
I
just
really
kind
of
want
to
wrap
this
up
by
saying
you
know
with
my
comments
by
saying
you
know,
we
made
a
decision
as
this
board
of
supervisors.
When
we
looked
at
the
opportunity
that
existed
to
purchase
this
property,
we
made
that
decision
in
full
transparency
with
the
public,
with
a
conversation
of
all
of
the
additional
things
that
it
offered
recognizing
that
growth.
A
One
thing
I
would
ask
you
all
remember,
is,
and-
and
we've
all
talked
about
this-
we
live
here
with
you-
we
play
with
you,
we
worship
with
you-
our
kids
have
been
excuse
me.
Our
kids
have
grown
up
in
these
neighborhoods
and
we've
chosen
to
step
forward
into
these
roles
because
we
believe
in
our
community
and
believe
in
what
we're
doing
so.
I'm
going
to
ask
that
you
all
be
respectful
tonight
to
each
other
and
that
this
process
moves
forward
respectfully
and
thank
you
again
for
joining
us.
B
Just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
appreciate
the
input
we
are.
I
am
reading
all
of
your
emails
as
they
come
in.
I
know
some
of
you
may
have
gotten
a
standard
response
back
from
staff,
and
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
emails,
a
lot
of
information
coming
in
talking
with
people
over
the
phone
on
a
daily
basis
about
this
case
and
meeting
with
people
in
person,
and
I
so
just
keep
your
information
coming.
C
What
we're
looking
for
in
that
meeting
is
march
and
and
we're
going
to
have
that
it's
not
going
to
be
televised
or
broadcast
or
anything,
and
if
you
want
to
come,
ask
any
questions,
don't
be
afraid
to
ask
any
questions.
If,
if
you
feel
like
your
question,
is
dumb
feel
free
to
ask
if
somebody
laughs
at
you
or
ridicules,
you
we'll
just
bump
them
out
of
the
room,
because
that's
going
to
be
your
meeting,
we're
going
to
have
county
staff
there
to
answer
questions
we're
going
to
go
through
some
of
the
proffers
in
detail.
C
If
you
don't
understand
something
by
all
means,
just
ask
don't
be
afraid
to
ask
anything.
You
know
the
thing
about
you
know.
The
only
stupid
question
is
one
not
asked.
There
are
no
stupid
questions
when
it
comes
to
this.
When
I
started
doing
this
planning
commission
stuff,
I
was
the
idiot
in
the
room.
I've
been
doing
it
two
years,
I'm
still
the
idiot
in
the
room,
but
I'm
a
smarter
idiot
than
I
was
because
I
asked
questions.
D
Good
evening,
everyone,
I'm
jesse
smith,
deputy
county
administrator
for
community
development,
just
want
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
folks
up
here
and
say
thank
you
for
for
the
folks
that
are
both
here
in
person
as
well
as
the
ones
that
are
watching
virtually.
I
will
also
echo
the
sentiments
that
we've
had
very
good
luck
with
these
virtual
meetings.
I
think
the
one
with
the
the
westerly
folks
was
very
well
attended
over
150
people.
D
I'm
so
also
excited
to
see
lots
of
folks
here
in
person,
as
well
as
online
a
couple
of
just
housekeeping
reminders.
There
are
sign-in
sheets
that
staff
has,
I
think,
both
in
the
hallway,
as
well
as
in
the
back.
So
if
you
don't
mind-
and
you
can
you
want
us
to
reach
back
out,
you,
please
put
your
your
information
on
the
sign
in
there's.
Also
a
web
portal
for
comments.
I
know
we
do
receive
quite
a
few
of
those.
So
please
continue.
D
D
I
do
just
ask
if
you
don't
mind
to
try
to
write
as
legibly
as
you
can,
and
I
will
do
my
best
to
to
read
those
verbatim
and
also
to
answer
any
questions
that
that
may
come
up
with
that
I'll,
be
very
brief
and
just
provide
a
quick
update
to
some
of
the
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
over
the
past
gosh.
It's
been
a
few
months.
At
least
you
could
just
see
on
here
a
brief
timeline
before
we
started.
D
You
know
really
with
initial
kickoff
beating
back
at
sept
september,
just
a
really
a
light
introduction
to
the
project
and
then
moving
forward
today,
which
is
the
at
the
end
there.
The
the
meeting
on
february
3rd,
which
is
where
we
are
there,
there's
really
six
and
I'm
just
going
to
call
them
primary
issues
that
we've
heard
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
each
of
these
and
how
the
application
is
is
being
modified
to
adjust
them
in
order
here.
D
So
buffers
we've
really
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
folks
that
live
on
some
of
the
acreage
properties
really
out
of
the
in
the
moseley
road
area
that
they
want
increased
buffers
than
what
the
ordinance
would
require.
The
ordinance
would,
as
most
of
you
may
already
know,
would
only
require
a
hundred
feet.
In
this
case,
we
actually
heard
a
request.
It
came
fairly
early
on
for
750
foot
buffer,
it's
difficult
to
kind
of
envision
where
that
is
for
folks.
D
So
what
we
are
showing
here
is
a
750
foot
buffer
from
existing
residences.
So,
if
I'm
one
of
these
folks
that
lives
on
an
acreage
property
out
on
mosley
just
an
example,
I'll
kind
of
pick
these
folks
here
and
they
were
to
walk
off
their
front
porch
or
their
front
stoop
750
feet
into
the
woods.
That
would
be
that
hatched
line
right
there,
a
buffer
perspective,
it's
very
large,
and
that
would
be
completely
undisturbed.
D
So
we
would
endeavor
to
leave
the
trees
vegetation
everything
else
exactly
as
it
exists
today
again,
this
forms
what
you
can
see
is
kind
of
a
zigzag
line.
The
hope
would
be
to
kind
of
even
this
out
and
and
for
example,
you
could
see
that
the
the
buffer
actually
comes
in
here.
We
would
square
that
off
as
well
again
to
provide
protections
for
those
folks
that
moved
out
to
this
part
of
the
county
and
want
to
continue
to
have
more
of
that
rural
lifestyle.
D
D
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is
add
it
as
an
accessory
use
so
that,
if
somebody
were
to
manufacture,
for
example,
intel
or
dell
or
one
of
the
computer
manufacturers
was
making
motherboards
or
electronic
components,
they
could
also
make
the
plastic
housing
that
a
laptop
comes
in
or
or
if
you
know,
I
have
a
a
galaxy
phone.
If
samsung
were
manufacturing
phone
equipment,
they
could
also
make
the
plastic
cases.
D
D
The
other
issue
that
that
takes
care
of
is
it
does
reduce
the
traffic
on
westerly
parkway,
so
we're
confident
now
that
leaving
the
two-lane
portion
of
westerly,
I
apologize
it's
just
it's
just
to
this
direction.
Leaving
the
two-lane
portion
of
westerly
parkway
through
the
westerly
neighborhood
will
adequately
function
for
those
two
particular
schools
that
being
the
middle
school
and
the
elementary
school.
But
we
do
recognize
that
we
do
need
to
look
at
enhanced
pedestrian
improvements
for
westerly.
D
D
So,
typically,
where
you
see
any
of
those
blue
lines,
that's
going
to
be
somewhere
where
you're
crossing
a
a
stream
or
something
else
where
you
would
have
a
culvert.
It
would
be
suitable
for
a
great
separated
crossing.
We
would
also
want
to
reach
out
to
the
westerly
folks
and
probably
go
out
there
in
the
field
and
meet
with
them
to
figure
out
the
best
sidewalk
connections
and
the
the
places
that
that
folks
would
tend
to
cross.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
those
are
are
adequately
protected
when
the
school
goes
in.
D
D
Just
to
show
you
the
overall
map
I
did
want
to
to
echo
kind
of
the
ideas
of
where
could
the
high
school
go?
We've
started
looking
at
a
couple
of
sites,
one
on
the
east.
You
know
we've
looked
kind
of
down
here,
also
looking
up
here
towards
mount
hermon
road
towards
the
the
park
out
there
again
nothing's
been
firmed
up.
D
There
were
a
couple
of
other
items
there
relative
to
those
issues,
certainly
continued
engagement
with
the
community
at
the
end
of
the
well
tommy
started,
actually
with
with
some
discussion
on
an
upcoming
meeting
and
I'll
follow
up
at
the
end
with
with
kind
of
the
next
steps.
But
certainly
we
understand
the
desire
for
the
community
to
continue
to
be
engaged
to
that.
D
We
have
some
ideas
which
we
will
discuss,
discuss
with
the
planning
commission,
as
we
move
forward
as
to
how
we
can
still
retain
the
engagement
of
the
community
typing
of
the
door
south
road
down
to
duvall,
where
the
decision
was
at
least
was
made
to
move
the
high
school.
That
became
a
little
less
critical,
but
we
do
still
believe
that
that
connection
is
important,
as
well
as
the
connection
to
the
north
to
mount
hermon.
D
I
did
want
to
touch
on
these
issues
in
just
a
little
bit
of
detail,
because
these
have
not
been
worked
out,
but
this
is
a
fairly
extensive
list
of
the
discussion
that
we've
had
with
the
planning
commission
and
the
issues
that
they
have
raised,
that
we
will
work
through
over
the
next
45
days
or
so
again,
buffers
and
setbacks,
which
we've
discussed
the
idea
that
there
would
be
additional
detail.
So
a
greater
conceptual
plan
we're
working
on
some
ideas
there
to
provide
some
some
surety
as
to
what
would
be
developed.
D
The
next
bullet
is
really
the
one
I
think
is
is
is
meaningful
for
at
least
this
group
is
the
performance
standards
for
light
noise,
odor
building,
height,
etc.
We
have
some
ideas
there.
We
will
flesh
those
out
with
the
commission
as
to
protections
for
the
community
from
those
issues
and
to
ensure
that
whatever
industry
ends
up
in
here
is
one
that
is
good
for
the
community.
D
Further
limiting
uses
again
proposing
to
to
adjust
the
plastics
to
it
accessory
use
and
then
there's
the
question
of
you
know:
how
is
this
being
treated
the
same
as
a
privately
initiated?
Zoning
case
is
the
level
of
detail
comparable,
I'm
going
to
work
through
some
of
those
issues.
It
is
a
little
bit
different
in
that
it
is
more
of
a
prospective
case
for
at
least
the
west
side,
and
the
east
side
is
different,
of
course,
because
we're
proposing
public
uses,
so
those
are
all
different
from
a
a
private
case.
D
The
second
to
last
bullet
there
regarding
transportation
improvements,
the
desire
to
to
kind
of
put
more
more
standards
there
relative
to
when
things
would
be
done
that
that's
a
tough
one
because
of
the
the
geographic
nature
of
this
particular
property
being
over
2000
acres
with
multiple
multiple
permutations
of
what
could
go.
First,
it's
very
difficult
to
say:
well,
if
this
happens,
then
x,
y
and
z
would
be
built
with.
D
That
said,
we're
certainly
going
to
work
with
the
commission
to
try
to
to
get
some
granular
triggers
in
there
as
to
when
the
community
could
expect
to
see
certain
improvements.
One
example
would
be
the
middle
school.
We
are
certainly
the
middle
school.
We
recognize
is
happening,
so
there
are
specific
improvements
that
would
be
tied
to
the
development
of
the
middle
school
itself,
because
we
know
that's
happening
and
when
it's
happening
and
then
the
last
one
the
need
for
additional
data
from
economic
development.
D
If
anyone
hasn't
watched
it,
I
do
encourage
them
to
watch
the
presentation
from
jason
l
kuby
from
the
edp.
I
thought
he
did
a
really
good
job
of
explaining
why
this
particular
site
was
important,
why
the
zoning
is
important
and
why
having
it
moved
towards
being
site
and
shovel
ready,
would
make
this
a
competitive
site
not
only
for
chesterfield
but
also
for
the
commonwealth.
D
Again,
I
promise
to
be
brief.
So
this
is
the
last
slide
just
want
to
to
echo
kind
of
some
of
the
upcoming
things
we
we
endeavor
to
have
revised
proffers
out
on
february
11th,
that
is
a
friday
plenty
commission
work
session
on
february
15th
and
then
we'll
work
with
tommy
and
the
folks
of
the
planning
commission
to
schedule
a
community
meeting
in
march.
D
C
I
do
want
to
say
on
on
the
15th
the
planning
commission
meeting
that
day
is
going
to
start
at
one
o'clock
and
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
pretty
pretty
lengthy
work
session,
we're
going
to
be
going
through
the
traffic
study
with
people
from
traffic,
hopefully
by
the
time
we'll
have
the
wetland
delineation
and
the
wetlands
map.
So
we
can
talk
to
environmental
so
that
that
will
be
a
meeting
that
you
cannot.
C
You
feel
free
to
come
and
watch,
but
you
can
also
watch
from
the
comfort
of
your
home
that
day,
because
that's
not
a
public
hearing
kind
of
thing
so
don't
feel
like
you
have
to
come.
Unless
you
really
want
to
be
here
in
person,
there
will
be
no
light.
Refreshments
or
anything
so
you'll
be
on
your
own.
For
that.
D
D
So
that
the
first
question
is
expl
is
plea
or
statement
is:
please
explain
why
the
buffer
at
the
poet
extension
behind
watermelon
towns,
neighborhood,
is
only
100
feet.
The
right-of-way
is
200
feet
says
2000
feet
wide.
That's
that's
not
correct.
Why
does
it
have
to
be
so
ridiculously
close?
Why
not
a
thousand
feet?
So
this
is
actually
referring
to.
D
If
anybody
wants
to
go
through
that
that
it
is
available
on
our
gis,
if
you
want
to
go
there,
you
can
pull
up
the
platt
for
watermill
towns
and
it
shows
both
the
pauley
parkway
right
of
way,
as
well
as
the
the
proposed
setback.
Yeah
typic,
the
typical
setback
off
of
a
limited
access
facility,
particularly
the
polar
parkway,
is
200
feet
on
both
sides.
D
D
D
D
We
understand
for
people
to
envision
what
that
looks
like
so
so
happy
to
go
out
there
and
flag
that
entire
line
of
where
that
would
be.
So
you
can
see
it
in
terms
of
how
that
would
be
codified
within
the
case.
What
we
would
do
is
craft
a
condition
that
would
require
recordation
of
that
buffer
within
a
certain
number
of
days,
for
example,
of
the
case
being
approved
by
the
board.
If
that's
where
this
ends
up.
So
that's
how
we
would
codify
that.
D
How
is
your
plan
going
to
impact
our
drinking
water?
Putting
industrial
mega
site
upstream
seems
like
a
bad
idea,
and
this
is
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
get
the
name
wrong,
alex
foshenka
from
mosley.
So
the
idea
would
be
that
that
there
would
be
no
impact
on
the
drinking
water
for
these
particular
facilities.
D
There
would
be
no
discharge
into
either
the
the
streams
or
or
any
groundwater
they
would
need
to
to
discharge
into
the
wastewater
system,
which
again
would
then
ultimately
be
treated
in
terms
of
conveyance
of
storm
water
to
the
reservoir.
There
are
strict
restrictions
around
that
as
well,
so
we
we
do
not
anticipate
impacts
to
the
drinking
water.
D
So
this
is
so.
This
is
more
so.
This
is
why
why
plan
it?
Why?
I
think
that
why
is
planting
so
bad
at
chesterfield?
That's
a
question
I'll
assume
that
one's
rhetorical
industrial
site
take
a
lot
of
time
to
plan
and
execute.
Why
is
this
big
rushed
again?
This
is
from
from
alex
in
westerly.
It
says
this
time
so
again,
I
I
think
we
we
would
agree
that
there
is
a
lot
of
planning
that
has
to
occur
with
any
of
these
sites.
D
The
zoning
or
entitlement
stage
is
really
just
the
very
first
one.
There
are
lots
and
lots
of
other
hoops
to
jump
through
once
land
becomes
entitled
for
a
particular
use.
There
there's
sight
planes
that
have
to
be
submitted,
there's
lots
of
permitting.
That
has
to
happen
so
again.
This
is
really
just
the
first
step
in
many
before
anything
could
be
developed
on
that
site.
D
What
needs
to
happen
to
remove
industrial
zoning?
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
this
is
referencing.
My
guess
is
that
the
idea
would
be
so
I
I'm
assuming
that
the
idea
would
be.
How
do
we
suggest
something
else
again
that
that's
what
these
meetings
are
for?
Certainly
happy
to
listen
to
to
to
folks
that
come
out
tonight
and
and
go
through
the
concerns
and
issues.
D
D
D
There
are
lots
of
protections
built
in
within
any
any
chesapeake
bay
area
for
the
watershed
in
this
particular
location.
This
is
part
of
the
upper
swift
creek,
which
is,
I
think,
most
folks
in
here
know
also
drains
to
the
swift
creek
reservoir.
So
there
are
extra
protections
built
in
in
terms
of
how
storm
water
has
to
be
treated
before
it
could
then
be
released
into
the
watershed.
D
A
I'm
sorry,
let's
try
and
be
respectful
here,
mr
smith,
is
working
through
these
questions.
There's
an
opportunity
for
you
to
write
your
question
on
a
card.
We
have
people
joining
us
remotely.
We
have
people
on
facebook
live,
and
so
it's
very
difficult
to
capture
all
of
this
other
than
through
one
speaker,
which
is
why
we've
provided.
So
if
you
have
further
questions,
please
hold
your
hand
up
and,
and
we
can
make
sure
you
get
another
note
card.
D
I
I
could
certainly
provide
I
could.
I
could
certainly
provide
more
clarity
there.
There
are
additional
phosphorus
and
nitrogen
removal
requirements
within
the
upper
swift,
creek
watershed.
We
typically
require
super
salt
fence
as
an
example
and
I
pam
to
help
remove
nutrients
as
well.
So
that's
the
that's.
The
technical
answer.
D
D
In
terms
of
that,
we
feel
that
the
better
location
will
be
up
towards
whole
street.
There
are
already
sites
zoned
for
mixed-use
commercial.
I
think
we
went
through
one
of
these
at
the
the
meeting
at
ctc
at
hull,
which
is
cosby
village.
As
an
example
in
discussions
with
that
owner,
I
know
right
now,
they're
having
a
hard
time
leasing
up
some
of
the
space,
for
example
restaurants.
Right
now,
it's
very
difficult
to
staff.
D
They
have
a
hard
time
starting
new
restaurants
or
anything.
That's
in
the
service
industry.
There
there's
also
a
mixed-use
node
already
zoned
within
lower
magnolia
greens.
If
you
know
where
magdalena
green
proper
is
there's
one
on
hull
street
there,
and
I
know
that
the
developers
are
again
kind
of
waiting
for
the
right
time
for
that
to
be
a
viable
development,
a
hospital-
I
you
know-
I
would
dare
say
you
know
within
the
county-
that
that's
we
would
consider
that
you
know
certainly
a
nice
use
anywhere
in
the
county.
D
Those
do
have
special
requirements
to
them
in
terms
of
certificates
of
public
need
and
other
things,
but
in
terms
of
medical
office-
and
you
know
that
would
be
a
permitted
use
within
the
this
proposal.
So
there
could
be
uses.
That
would
be,
if
not
exactly
hospital,
something
certainly
like
it
and
would
be
something
we
would
support.
D
Is
there
public
support
for
this
project?
I
I
would
say
yes,
there
is
support.
I
know
I've
talked
to
folks.
There
is
support
from
a
large
portion
of
the
community.
Obviously
you
know
there's
folks
opposed
to
it
as
well.
You
know
we
we
find
that's,
that's
typically.
What
happens?
There
are
gonna,
be
folks
both
in
support
and
in
opposition
to
to
any
project.
Typically,
the
ones
that
will
will
come
out
are
the
ones
in
opposition.
So
we
certainly
understand
that.
D
How
is
manufacturing
and
industrial
use
evaluated
compared
to
other
commercial
uses,
for
this
lane
is
manufacturing
really
the
best
use
for
some
of
the
land
involved
in
this
project
from
a
county
standpoint,
you
know,
I
think,
we're
confident
that
this
zoning,
which
again
includes
uses
in
excess
of
manufacturing,
provides
the
the
additional
uses
and
potential
tax
base
to
really
serve
the
community
and
provide
a
more
balanced
overall
revenue.
So
I
think,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
pros
to
it
again
the
underlying
zoning,
as
it
sits
now,
as
for
additional
residential.
D
D
This
is
what
will
it
take
for
the
board
of
supervisors
to
stop
the
resorting
to
i2?
In
other
words,
what
legal
action
can
residents
take
to
prevent
the
board
from
doing
this?
I
I
am
not
an
attorney
I
I
won't.
I
won't
pretend
to
be
one.
So
I'm
not
sure.
That's
that's
what
I
can
answer,
but
certainly
we
do
have
folks
here
from
the
board
listening
and
I
think
they're
they're,
certainly
taking
note
of
of
all
the
comments.
D
D
D
If
you,
if
you
listen
to
the
speech
from
jason
okube
at
vdp,
you
know
these
are
the
industries
that
from
not
just
a
local
level
but
a
state
level
we
are
trying
to
vie
for
and
that
have
the
the
the
the
jobs
that
that
we're
trying
to
land
in
this
particular
spot.
So
I
don't
think
that
all
of
those
industries
were
would
be
permitted
in
the
I-1.
But
we
have
again
tried
to
mitigate
that
by
limiting
it
to
a
very
small,
a
small
wedge
of
the
i2
uses.
D
What
will
the
intersection
of
water,
rail,
parkway
at
old,
100th
road
look
like
with
the
poet
extension
we
do
have
the
the
poet
parkway
plans
online
they're
at
chestrill.gov
road
projects,
and
if
you
scroll
down
there
you'd
go
to
po
white
parkway.
You
could
pull
that
up.
I,
I
don't
want
to
guess
what
it
looks
like
off
the
top
of
my
head.
D
When
will
we
see
adjustments
to
the
plans
based
on
community
feedback
so
february
11th?
If
you
I'm
not
sure
that
the
chart's
up
now
but
the
revised
proffers,
we
will
push
out
february
11th.
So
you
should
see
those
changes
in
there,
for
example,
a
specificity
of
westerly
parkway,
no
longer
being
a
four-lane
facility.
D
I
know
that's
one
that
folks
are
looking
for
and
the
other
ones
that
we
that
I
spoke
to
earlier
would
be
in
there
as
well
in
terms
of
some
of
the
ones
that
we
need
to
work
out
with
the
planning
commission.
Those
are
still
in
progress.
I
I
don't
anticipate
that
those
will
be
fully
formed
on
by
february
11th.
D
How
can
we
guarantee
taxpayers
won't
be
paying
for
all
this
prep
for
nothing?
Where
are
the
employment
needs,
studies
for
local
residents
again,
and
I
hate
to
keep
marketing
back
to
this
the
same
presentation,
but
it
really
was
a
good
one
from
the
edp
where
you
know
there
was
a
very
nice
summation
of
why
these
industries,
these
specific
target
industries,
are
important,
and
you
know
the
why
the
commonwealth
needs
them
and
why
we
have
not
had
them
in
the
past.
D
What
will
ensure
once
the
board
members
move
on
that
the
i2
restrictions
will
be
followed,
and
this
is
from
bonnie,
cardone
and
summer
lake.
So
thanks
bonnie
for
for
that
question,
so
zoning
runs
with
the
land
all
of
the
restrictions,
any
conditions
that
accompany
this
case
will
always
run
with
the
land
unless
there's
some
affirmative
action
from
a
future
board
to
do
otherwise.
D
D
D
D
A
lot
of
that
would
be
alleviated
while
the
poei
parkway
is
a
very
important
part
of
our
overall
infrastructure.
It
is
not
a
fix-all
for
everything.
It
is
necessary
to
support
the
overall
growth
of
the
county,
but
it's
it
will
not
result
in
in
you
know
immediate
reduction
of
traffic
or
issues
on
288
and
360
as
an
example
there
it
has
never
been
funded,
it
has
never
been
programmed.
D
We
do
own
a
good
portion
of
the
the
right-of-way
already,
but
it
is.
It
has
never
been
part
of
any
sort
of
capital
improvement
program,
at
least
to
finish
it
all
the
way
out
to
whole
street.
How
do
you
expect
the
existing
infrastructure
to
support
truck
traffic
to
an
industrial
site?
This
is
a
good
question.
D
One
of
the
the
things
that
we
have
discussed
is
requiring
any
truck
traffic
to
come
from
hull
street,
so
that
would
engender
or
require
at
least
a
construction
of
a
portion
of
the
paul
white
parkway
from
hull
street,
a
mile
or
so
north
into
the
site.
While
we
don't
think
that
that
could
necessarily
serve
the
site
as
a
whole
in
the
long
term,
it
would
be
a
good
way
to
get
truck
traffic
from
from
using
those
those
other
neighborhood
roads.
D
How
will
you
protect
bike
traffic
on
duval
and
otterdale
road?
I
I
have
biked
out
there.
It
is
a
it's
challenging
to
bike
on
any
of
those
older
roads
that
exist.
Certainly
you
know
I
you
know
I
I
those
are
hard
roads
to
bike
on
like
it's.
I
would
not.
If
you're,
you
know
a
youth
that
that's
not
one,
we
would
recommend
that
you
bike
on.
There
are
other
ones
that
are
better
suited
to
that
in
terms
of
specifically
protecting
bike
traffic.
D
D
As
a
westerly
resident,
I
want
to
express
my
thanks
to
the
board,
especially
mr
carroll,
for
bringing
concerns
about
westerly
parkway
to
the
forefront
in
the
westerly
neighborhood.
We
were
encouraged
by
the
discussions
in
last
week's
work
session
about
preserving
the
feel
and
safety
of
our
neighborhood.
When
will
we
see
these
updates
reflected
in
official
plans
and
proffers
spoke
to
this
quickly
but
february
11th?
We
would
anticipate
that
being
in
writing
and
again,
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
to
the
folks
over
in
westerly
and
and
get
folks
to
meet
out
there.
D
So
we
could
kind
of
figure
out
from
a
pedestrian
environment.
You
know
where
is
the
best
place
to
put
sidewalks
ped
crossings
that
sort
of
thing
the
community
has
clearly
expressed
a
desire
for
these
two
zodiac
cases
to
be
split
apart.
There
is
no
reason
to
link
school
construction
with
economic
development
fix
the
roads,
build
the
schools
first,
the
cases
actually
are
are
functioning
separately.
D
They
have
two
different
zoning
case
numbers,
but
it
is
important
that
they
be
kept
together
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint
to
ensure
that
the
left
hand
knows
what
the
right
is
doing
in
terms
of
school
construction.
Yeah
we're
certainly
with
school
working
with
schools
to
to
endeavor
to
get
the
the
school
in
place.
The
middle
school
in
particular
in
places
as
quickly
as
possible,
we'll
developing
upper
back
green
and
the
ground
disturbance
that
will
entail
expand
the
fema
designated
flood
plain,
potentially
potentially
encroaching
on
current
homes
and
neighborhoods.
D
So
anytime,
you
do
anything
at
a
flood
plain.
You
have
to
submit
what's
called
a
no
rise
certificate
which
verifies
through
engineering
means
that
you
are
not
adjusting
the
flood
plain
or
it's
a
a
de
minimis
adjustment
of
the
flood
plain,
for
example,
many
of
you
may
see
may
have
seen
that
we
are
have
a
construction
project
to
replace
the
three
creek
crossings:
odd
otterdale,
so
the
one
on
otterdale
branch,
blackman,
creek
and
horsepen
as
part
of
the
development
of
those
structures.
D
D
Let's
see
it
is
not
necessary
to
have
industrial
businesses
in
the
area.
We
don't
want
them,
especially
if
they're,
not
environmentally
friendly.
Many
of
us
have
well
water.
We
don't
want
businesses
that
will
be
detrimental
to
us
from
accounting
perspective.
We
we
certainly
don't
want
businesses
that
are
detrimental
to
the
environment,
well,
water,
any
of
those
either.
You
know
in
this
case,
I
think
you
know
the
board.
D
So
I
think
the
idea
that
there
could
be
you
know
an
industry
that
that's
going
to
be
openly
polluting
already
that
that
that's
that's
just
not
going
to
happen
and
those
you
know
again.
There's
we
will
write
a
lot
of
those
conditions
into
the
case
as
well
relative
to
groundwater
and
disturbances
to
to
streams.
D
What
is
your
approach
to
ensuring
the
land
and
water
tables
are
not
contaminated
and
who
do
we
hold
accountable?
This
is
from
dennis
crostick,
who
is
a
retired,
looks
like
chesterfield,
county
public
schools,
employee.
So
so,
dennis
again,
we
will
include
conditions
that
there
won't
be
discharges
in
the
into
public
streams
or
directly
into
the
groundwater.
Typically,
these
many
these
companies
would
convey
everything
to
the
to
the
wastewater
system
so
that
they
would
not
go
directly
into
streams
or
bodies
of
water.
D
I'm
going
to
try
to,
I
think
I've
neglected
the
online
comments,
which
are
have
not
quite
outpaced
the
note
cards,
but
I
I
did
want
to
get
to
a
couple
of
those.
How
is
this
not
a
conflict
of
interest
for
the
county
to
buy
this
land
and
get
final
say
on
what
goes
in
the
the
property
itself
has
actually
been
conveyed
to
the
to
the
eda.
D
There
are
some
other
properties
included
with
this
and,
within
this
particular
zoning,
that
the
eda
does
not
own
that
were
that
are
included
in
terms
of
the
final
say.
This
is
going
through
the
exact
same
process
that
any
developer
would
go
through
in
terms
of
community
meetings
and
public
hearings.
These
folks
are
certainly
here.
Listening
to
you,
I
know
I
want
to
say:
we've
had
almost
all
of
our
board.
Members
now
attend
one
of
these
meetings
so
that
you
know
these
folks
are
here
listening.
D
D
I'm
assuming
this
means
the
department
of
environmental
quality,
so
deq
does
not
typically
get
involved
in
zoning
actions.
Zoning
is
one
of
those
nuances
of
government
that
is,
that
is
a
local
issue.
We
do
anticipate
that
both
deq
and
a
lot
of
the
other
agencies,
like
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
dcr,
will
get
involved
as
permitting
move
forward
moves
forward.
But
typically
you
don't
do
that
at
the
zoning
stage,
we're
not
at
a
permitting
stage
that
would
come
subsequent
to
play
and
development.
So,
typically
it
goes.
D
Zoning
plans
are
developed
and
then
permits
and
then
construction,
so
we're
a
couple
steps
away
from
involving
some
of
those
folks
federal
epa.
That's
not
an
agency
that
we
would
typically
deal
with
from
a
local
level.
Most
federal
agencies
pass
through
their
regulations
and
obligations
to
their
state
counterparts.
D
What
is
the
plastics
or
chip
pollution
going
to
do
to
the
water
table?
Which
direction
will
this
flow
again?
There
won't
be
any
discharge
from
any
facility
directly
into
the
groundwater
or
streams.
You
know
it's
an
unfortunate
fact
of
the
past
that
you
know,
as
we
have
some
neighbors
nearby
and
some
industries
nearby,
the
back
of
the
70s
went
through.
You
know
a
lot
of
this.
I
I
remember
living
through
the
the
no
fish
warnings
in
the
james
river
because
of
things
that
were
done
in
the
past.
D
So
move
the
school
because
of
health
concerns,
but
what
about
those
of
us
who
live
in
this
i2
zone
so
relative
to
some
of
the
protections
for
the
the
folks
that
are
out
there?
We
touched
on
this
briefly
in
the
last
slide,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
the
commission
is
really
going
to
to
dig
into
it's
those
issues
of
noise,
light
odor
that
we
are.
We
are
looking
to
provide
protections
within
the
zoning
case
for
the
nearby
residents
in
terms
of
water
and
those
sorts
of
things.
D
D
Can
we
get
two
lanes
and
westerly
in
writing?
Yes,
on
or
about
february.
11Th,
I
think,
is
what
we're
shooting
for.
Where
are
the
railroad
lines
going
to
come
through
for
your
industrial
sites?
That's
all
required,
so
these
particular
uses.
These
advanced
manufacturer
uses
chip
plants,
those
sorts
of
things
they
do
not
want
rail.
In
fact,
they
don't
want
rail
anywhere
near
them
because
of
the
vibrations
for
those
particular
lines.
D
D
Clearly,
from
the
what
have
we
heard
slide,
you
have
not
yet
heard
the
residents
massive
disagree
with
the
i2
rezoning.
Why
have
you
not
heard
this
massive
disagreement
with
your
decision
for
i2
rezoning?
I
I
think
it's
fair
that
we
we've.
We
have
heard
folks
at
this
point
that
are
in
disagree
with
the
case
I
mean
that's,
we
get
it.
We
can
certainly
hear
you
and
read
the
signs
at
this
stage.
You
know
we.
D
What
we
are
endeavoring
to
do
is
provide
adequate
protections
from
folks
for
folks
that
are
out
there
and-
and
you
know,
build
the
case
such
that
it
is
one
where
folks
both
feel
like
they've
been
heard
and
have
confidence
that
it
could
be
something
you
know
that
that
can
work
I
I
know
I've
personally
met
with
folks
out
there
and
you
know
on
a
one-on-one
level.
I
think
it's
it's
different.
You
know.
I've
talked
to
folks
that,
while
they
were,
you
know
strongly
opposed
to
it.
D
I
think
they
would
eventually
agree.
You
know
what,
if
you
guys,
can
work.
You
know
these
six
or
seven
issues
out.
You
know,
then,
then,
we'll
generally
be
okay.
I
understand.
That's,
probably
not
going
to
be
the
sentiment
in
this
particular
room,
but
you
know
I
think
we
can
certainly
endeavor
to
get
there
and
it's
from
from
a
staff
perspective.
D
D
Why
are
otterdale
and
the
poet
extension
not
on
the
issues
truthfully
from
from
a
issues
standpoint,
at
least
in
the
community
meetings,
the
the
the
six
or
so
that
we
listed
were
the
ones
that
seem
to
be
the
the
most
recurring
within
the
case
itself,
there
are
conditions
that
speak
to
improvements
to
both
otterdale
and
the
and
the
poet
parkway,
so
certainly
happy
to
dive
into
those
the
the
full-blown
traffic
impact
analysis
is
also
available
online.
We
will
do
a
really
deep
dive
into
that.
D
Will
you
consider
scrapping
this
entire
plan
and
starting
over
with
input
from
with
the
city
from
the
citizens
from
the
get-go
again?
At
this
point,
I
I
think
we're
in
the
input
process.
We,
you
know
we
we
listed
all
of
the
input
that
we've
received
to
date
as
with
any
application.
It's
it's.
You
know,
certainly
not
complete
at
this
point.
D
D
D
D
Who,
who
is
you
know
what
properties
are
part
of
the
county?
Somebody
just
fixed
it?
It
says
why
does
it
this
application?
So
I
think
the
answer
is
still
the
same.
It's
that
everything
is
there.
If
you
go
online
to
our
portal,
there's
probably
two
dozen
different
documents,
everything
that
would
be
included
with
the
normal
zoning
application,
we're
having
all
the
same
requisite
community
meetings.
D
D
I
do
believe
that
part
of
the
school
construction-
I
think
there
have
been
some
early
discussions
with
the
corps
on
those
obviously
with
the
middle
school,
moving,
that's
going
to
change
that,
but
I
believe
there
at
least
has
been
a
pre-application
meeting
with
the
with
the
corps,
but
you
know
folks
are
interested.
I
can
talk
to
counterparts
of
the
schools
and
see
where
that
is.
D
Let's
see
why
dot
promote
utilization
of
existing
developed
areas
that
are
not
being
used
that
contain
empty
building,
office,
space,
etc
in
terms
of
industrial
property,
and
this
this
this
chart
is
available
online
and
we've
covered
it
a
couple
different
presentations.
There
really
are
no
sites
available
that
that
meet.
You
know
the
state's
standards,
for
you
know
for
these
sorts
of
developments,
the
250
acres
are
greater
there.
Just
is
not
an
inventory
of
them,
so
you
know
the.
D
D
Chest
road
county
is
in
desperate
need
of
parks,
a
larger
park
that
would
bring
in
massive
walking
biking,
trails,
amphitheater,
etc.
What
are
specific
plans
for
chesterfield
to
use
this
land
to
bring
more
wooded
parks?
That's
a
good
question.
One
of
the
the
things
that
has
come
up
and
that
we
are
attempting
to
do
as
part
of
this
plan
is
to
provide
better
connectivity
to
the
the
park
on
jettato
road.
D
D
When
will
these
changes
of
plans
be
expected
to
be
more
concrete
again.
I'll
point
to
the
february
11th
for
some
of
those
initial
ideas
and
then
the
other
ideas
relative
to
some
of
those
other
things
we
fleshed
out
between
the
planning
commission
work
session,
the
community
meeting
and
then
the
planning
commission
public
hearing
so
still
a
ways
to
go,
but
but
making
incremental
changes
as
we
go.
D
D
A
D
How
could
you
begin
proffers
when
the
community
still
disagrees
with
this
i2
rezoning
again,
while
the
underlying
zoning
would
be
i2,
it's
heavily
restricted
to
those
seven
uses?
I
think
we
were
even
suggesting
that
one
should
be
removed
as
the
primary
use,
so
you're
really
down
to
just
a
handful
of
uses
that
would
be
permitted
within
this
specific
zoning
district.
While,
yes,
it
is.
D
The
underlying
zoning
is
i2
again
it's
those
specific
targeted
industries,
advanced
manufacturing,
electronics,
manufacturing
offices,
data
centers,
those
sorts
of
things
semiconductors
chip
manufacturer
requires
the
use
of
hazardous
chemicals
and
two
to
four
million
gallons
of
water
per
day.
Why
is
that
per
on
the
permitted
use
list?
I
I'm
I'm
not
probably
as
first
in
semiconductors
as
other
folks.
They
certainly
do
require
quite
a
bit
of
water.
We
do
understand
that
in
terms
of
hazardous
chemicals,
I
think
it
depends
on
the
manufacturing
type
as
to
what
those
what
they
entail.
Specifically.
D
D
Who
has
managed
the
noise
spell
barriers?
What
would
put
in
place
for
these
barriers
are
the
same
spell
barriers,
the
same
as
the
ones
used
at
skin
quarter.
Landfill
certainly
understand
that
there's
lots
of
opposition
to
the
skin
quarter
landfill
we've.
You
know
we.
We
have
heard
that
in
terms
of
noise
odor
light
we
we
have
chatted
about
ways
to
do
that,
we're
not
quite
there.
You
know
we
are
benchmarking
with
other
communities
to
see
what
they
do.
We
are
obviously
not
the
first
people.
D
D
D
Why
would
you
want
to
ruin
a
beautiful
residential
area
with
industrial
zoning?
Again,
the
goal
is
certainly
not
to
ruin
or
change
anyone's
way
of
life.
You
know
that's
why
we're
proposing
larger
buffers
and
and
performance
measures
over
some
of
these
things.
We
understand
that
folks
have
moved
out
there
expecting.
D
D
Why
do
you
insist
on
manufacture
factory
of
plastics?
Again
we
spoke
to
this
one
early
on
that
the
idea
of
there
being
wholesale
plastic
production
manufacturing
is
not
the
intention
again
just
using
my
laptop
as
an
example.
The
idea
would
be
that
you
could
produce
the
chips
inside
it,
but
also
the
case
that
goes
around
it,
and
that
would
be
the
plastic
component.
D
Why
do
we
have
to
accept
an
industrial
park
in
order
to
have
roads
approved
at
schools
built
to
support
the
community?
Why,
in
a
rural
residential
area?
That's
not
why
I
moved
in
the
area
in
terms
of
infrastructure
and
infrastructure
financing,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
state
and
federal
funding.
D
The
the
employment
center
that's
been
proposed.
The
idea
of
a
technology
village
makes
the
county
much
more
competitive
in
terms
of
acquiring
state
and
federal
funding
for
infrastructure.
It's
just
the
way
that
those
funding
programs
work,
the
underlying
zoning,
the
the
1400
or
1300
odd
residential
units
that
that
that's
not
going
to
to
excite
anyone
at
a
state
and
federal
level
in
terms
of
funding.
D
D
D
It
refers
to
the
plastic
accessory
manufacturing.
Serious
byproduct
is
sulfur
dioxide
that
affects
the
respiratory
system.
It
also
aggravates
conditions
such
as
asthma
and
bronch
chronic
bronchitis.
What
are
the
plans
to
do
to
reduce
this
byproduct
to
ensure
the
health
and
safety
of
the
residences
and
children
attending
the
proposed
schools?
I
I'm
I'm
not
a
environmental
safety
expert,
I'm
not
a
chemist,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
to
that.
I
I
wouldn't
do
a
service
to
this
question.
D
D
How
will
this
affect
the
water
quality
of
the
reservoir?
First
off
the
the
reservoir
itself?
The
quality
of
the
water
is
actually
excellent
right
now,
it
has
always
been
excellent.
We've
never
had
any
water
quality
issues
at
the
reservoir.
We
don't
want
any
water
quality
issues
with
the
reservoir
and
we
don't
anticipate
them.
So
you
know,
as
we've
said
on
a
couple
different
occasions:
there
are
restrictions
built
in
and
lots
of
different
ways
that
storm
water
nutrient
removal
will
occur.
D
So
we
we
don't
anticipate
any
adverse
effects
to
the
reservoir
any
discussion
easily
and
is
commercial
versus
industrial.
We
we've
touched
on
that
a
couple
of
different
times.
We
don't
feel
this
site
is
suited
for
commercial
uses
dovetailing
with
without
any
plans
for
town
centers,
hospitals,
commercial
space
rather
than
industrial
centers,
that
the
town
center
idea-
you
know,
I
think
again-
is
better
suited
to
those
sites
along
whole
street
and
we
have
existing
zoning
that
would
permit
that
now.
D
D
What
about
protections
and
standards
for
pollution
related
to
potential
i2
zone
uses?
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
in
terms
of
of
water.
We
will
follow
up.
You
know
if
this
is
specifically
referring
to
to
air
air.
Permitting
is
probably
the
most
difficult
permit.
You
can
get
as
far
as
a
manufacturer
use.
Not
every
use
would
need
it,
because
not
everyone
would
would
be
discharging
so
that's
one
we'll
have
to
follow
up
on.
D
Why
does
industrial
have
to
happen
again?
We
are
considering
this
more
of
a
technology
village.
Not
necessarily
you
know
the
old
school
thought
of
industrial
and
again
it's
for
employment
diversification
of
the
tax
base.
You
know
provide
for
future
generations.
You
know
within
the
county
to
have
employment
opportunities
that
are
both
high,
paying
and
good
good
jobs.
D
D
D
Why
not?
Let
citizens
speak
rather
than
require
them
to
submit
a
note
for
the
board
to
pick
and
choose
what
they
answer.
I,
I
could
assure
you
I'm
neither
picking
nor
choosing
to
to
any
of
these
questions.
These
are
all
read
exactly
like
they've
been
written
in
terms
of.
Why
do
it
in
this
format?
We
found
that
this
is
the
quickest
way
to
get
the
most
answers.
D
You
know
in
other
formats,
we've
found
that
you
know
a
handful
of
folks
seem
to
dominate
the
conversation
and
we
really
don't
get
any
questions.
We
get
a
lot
of
other
things,
but
but
not
very
many
questions.
So
thank
you,
for
you
got
to
you
guys
for
actually
writing
down
questions
that
that
we
can
answer
and
and
thanks
to
folks
again
online
that
are
actually
asking
questions
as
well.
D
No
one
ever
intends
for
wastewater
to
leach
into
drinking
water,
but
it
does
happen.
What
steps
will
be
taking
to
prevent
it
and
monitor
for
it,
so
in
terms
of
wastewater
that
would
actually
fall
under
our
public
utilities
system
if
mike,
I
think,
is
back
in
the
back
room
if
he
doesn't
mind
kind
of
coming
out.
While
I
cover
one
more
question
and
he
can
speak
to
our
some
of
the
safety
protocols,
we
have
around
wastewater
bikes
with
our
utilities
department
and
we
in
order
to
free
up
room
up
here.
D
We
we
tried
to
give
to
to
have
some
of
our
staff
in
the
back.
So,
mr
dannery,
if
you
don't
mind
helping
me
out
on
that
one,
I
will
go
into
the
next
question.
Are
there
plans
to
expand
lauderdale
road
with
the
new
infrastructure
coming
in?
In
terms
of
that
one?
We
some
of
the
studies,
do
recommend
improvements
to
some
sections
of
otterdale
in
terms
of
what's
happening.
Now
we
are
improving
again
the
three
creek
crossings,
otterdale
branch,
blackmoon,
creek
and
horsepen.
E
D
Instead
of
industrial
use,
why
not
put
the
high
school
in
that
location,
along
with
parks
and
other
infrastructure,
to
keep
mosley
as
rural
as
possible
touched
on
this?
I
think
very
quickly.
It
was
probably
too
fast,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
is
to
locate
the
high
school
on
the
west
side
closer
to
hoarder
park.
And
again
we
we've
also
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
we
can
ensure
that
folks
and
residents
out
there
can
really
take
advantage
of
of
horner
park
right
now,
because
it's
only
accessible
from
genito.
D
D
Where
is
the
money
coming
from
for
the
poet
extension
again,
nothing
has
been
programmed
for
the
full
poet
extension
out
to
whole
street.
We
do
anticipate
that
being
a
mix
of
different
funding.
You
know
we
anticipate
that
because
of
the
sheer
size
and
magnitude
of
that
particular
project,
it
will
likely
have
to
involve
local
state
and
federal
funds.
D
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
in
terms
of
getting
the
state
and
federal
government's
attention
relative
to
the
construction
of
the
po
white
parkway,
we
really
do
need
a
employment
center
or
end
user.
That's
going
to
attract
their
attention.
Otherwise
you
know,
I
think,
we're
going
to
be
going
it
alone
from
a
county
perspective
attempting
to
fund
it.
D
So
yeah
I've
got
a
handful
of
cards.
I'm
happy
to
speak
specifically
to
the
poet
parkway
with
folks
that
want
to
chat
about
it.
If
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it,
we
don't
own
any
of
the
po
parkway.
Currently,
what
kind
of
workers
are
they
intending
to
attract
this
area
of
chesterfield
county
has
residents
with
the
highest
income?
D
No
one
here
is
looking
for
15
to
20
an
hour
manufacturing
job
to
expect
people
from
far
west
or
even
richmond,
to
commute
so
again.
The
the
idea
is
not
this
that
this
would
be
jobs
for
residents
that
currently
live
in
the
area.
The
idea
is
that
th.
This
is
the
first
step
in
a
long
journey
of
setting
this
particular
project
up
for
success.
My
guess
is
that
it
will
take
some
time,
both
even
post
entitlement,
as
well
as
through
site
plans
and
construction
and
infrastructure.
D
So
the
idea
is
not
that
this
is
going
to
be
is
intended
to
displace.
You
know
your
job
if
you
live
in
westerly,
but
but
really
to
provide
employment
uses.
For
you
know
the
future
generations
go
through
the
approved
uses.
For
me
tell
me
what
the
public
health
literature
tells
us
are:
the
risks
to
environment
and
human
life
with
regard
to
each
and
then
what
specific
prevention
and
mitigation
strategies
are
being
put
in
place?
Is
local
government
taking
responsibility
to
oversee
and
ensure
the
environment
and
public
health?
D
Are
you
asking
the
business
to
do
so
and
if
the
business,
how
specifically
will
you
hold
them
accountable
that
that's
more
than
I
can
answer
in
this
particular
venue
number
one,
I'm
not
qualified
to
answer
that
question
number
two.
I
believe
it
will
take
a
a
dissertation
to
do
so,
so
we
we
will
mark
that
one
down
as
as
one
for
future
answers,
but
we
will
be
sure
to
come
back
to
it
and
address
those
specific
concerns
about
public
health.
D
What
is
the
schedule
for
road
improvements
around
upper
magnolian
houses
schedule
a
line
with
projected
development
of
upper
magnolia
right
now.
The
the
way
that
the
conditions
are
written
would
require
a
supplemental
traffic
analysis
to
be
submitted
with
anything
that
occurs
in
the
western
property
such
that
we
could
determine
that
specific
impact
of
that
specific
use
and
the
specific
mitigating
road
improvements
that
are
necessary.
D
What
is
currently
included
in
the
case
is
an
exhaustive
laundry
list
of
all
the
improvements
for
the
entire
2000
plus
acres,
absent,
knowing
what
is
coming
in
and
when
it's
coming
in
it
would
be
impossible
to
develop
a
really
a
reasonable
phasing
plan
playing
around
those.
Now
with
that
said,
I
think
the
the
commission
has
certainly
asked
us
to
to
come
up
with
more
specificity
around
some
of
the
road
improvements,
so
we're
going
to
see
if
we
can
at
least
try
to
break
it
down
into
buckets
for
major
improvements.
D
D
C
D
Oh
sorry
and
vmrc
is
a
virginia
marine
resources
commission,
so
they
would
typically
not
they
would
not
regulate
upland
wetlands.
They
would,
they
would
be
more
of
tidal
wetlands.
So
you
know
again,
we
typically
coordinate
with
the
u.s
army
corps
of
engineers
on
wetland
impacts
and
all
various
other
agencies.
But
mr
owens
is
certainly
correct
that
the
field
work
has
been
done
for
the
natural
resource
inventory
and
we
will
make
those
documents
available.
D
Will
there
be
a
dedicated
entrance
exit
ramp
to
paul
white
for
the
industrial
site?
So
the
idea
would
would
be
that
there
would
be
an
interchange
at
poet
and
woolridge,
where
it
would
be
extended
through
magnolia
green.
If
you
drive
through
that,
it
eventually
would
tie
into
the
poet
parkway,
and
that
would
be
the
major
access
to
the
the
proposed
site.
D
Is
local
government
taking
responsibility
to
oversee
and
ensure
so
this
is
very
similar
to
that
question:
protecting
the
environment,
public
health
or
requiring
the
business
to
do
so
again,
we
can
get
back
to
those
public
health
questions
and
and
certainly
happy
to
provide
more
information
there
regarding
what
regulations
would
exist.
What
about
the
smell
again?
We
have
heard
this
from
folks
out
there
because
of
the
landfill,
and
we
we
certainly
understand
those
concerns.
D
How
do
you
know
that,
if
environmental
studies
are
not
complete,
I
would
assume
that
was
a
reply
to
a
specific
statement.
It's
the
challenge
with
trying
to
do
this
live
through
facebook,
streaming,
noise,
odor
lights!
How
do
you
manage
this
when
the
plant
is
outside
our
door?
Again,
we
haven't
finished
these,
but
it
would
be
by,
for
example,
for
toys.
You
could
set
maximum
decibel
levels
at
property
lines
as
well
as
setting
you
know
max
or
a
range
of
different
frequencies
do
the
same
thing
with
light.
D
Semi-Conductor
plants
are
one
of
the
biggest
causes
of
superfund
sites.
Why
would
you
risk
it
yeah
superfund
sites?
Are
it
I,
I
know
what
you're
referring
to,
but
again
those
are
a
bastion
from
decades-old
mistakes.
Back
in
the
60s
and
70s
you
superfund
sides
by
name
just
that
those
are
not
what
happens
today.
Regulations
around
all
manufacture
are
much
much
more
stringent
than
they
were
that.
That's
those
just
are
not
things
that
you
would
see
these
days.
D
The
rooftops
are
not
available
in
that
proximate
area
to
serve
it.
There
are
other
sites
already
zoned
for
those
commercial
uses
which,
at
this
time,
still
can't
are
not
full
they've,
been
wow
they've
been
ruining
chester
for
60
years.
Why
not
double
down
on
industrial
zoning
there?
That's
so
that
clearly,
not
written
by
our
chester
resident.
D
A
Just
jump
in
and
say
folks
we're
just
about
10
minutes
before
so.
If
you've
got
any
final
questions,
please
make
sure
you
get
them
to
susan
on
your
note
card
so
that
we
can
address
those.
But
out
of
courtesy
to
everybody
participating,
we
did
agree.
We
would
wrap
this
up
at
8
30..
So
thank
you.
Okay!
I'm
sorry!
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
folks
stayed.
We
stay
on
time
here
thanks
thanks.
D
Mister,
I
I
could
use
the
break
honestly.
What
does
the
future
look
like
for
grange
hall
elementary
school?
I
I'm
not
aware
of
any
plans
to
do
anything
at
grange
hall
at
this
point
very,
very,
very
much
beloved
school.
I
know
folks,
you
know
that
area
do
have
children
that
go
there.
So
nothing
in
terms
of
grange
hall,
I'm
gonna
try
to
go
through
some
note
cards.
How
can
you
guarantee
that
plastics
would
never
be
a
primary
product
of
zoned
industrial?
D
So
that
goes
that's
through
the
site
plan
and
development
process.
We
do
actually
find
out
what
these
particular
industries
are
again.
The
board
would
have
the
final
say
on
anything
that
goes
in
here.
So
if
plastics
is
not
allowed
as
a
primary
use,
then
a
plastics
manufacturer
would
not
be
permitted
to
purchase
or
lease
any
of
the
property.
D
Why
reason
before
environmental
impact
studies
have
been
conducted?
Can
the
zoning
be
changed
back
again?
There
are
environmental
studies
being
done
as
part
of
this.
Those
will
be
posted
in
terms
of
changing
the
zoning
back.
We
touched
on
this
very
briefly,
but
again,
any
zoning
change
is
a
board
action.
D
So
you
know
again
that
would
be
something
to
be
up
to
to
a
specific
board
of
supervisors.
Can
a
technical
person
answer
our
questions
and
not
the
chief
marketing
officer?
Please
you're
not
answering
our
questions,
just
giving
bureaucratic
speak
so
again,
I'm
not
the
chief
marketing
officer,
I'm
not
sure
that
would
be
a
promotion
or
demotion
terms
of
technical.
I
am
a
licensed
engineer
in
the
commonwealth
virginia.
I
do
have
a
bachelor's
degree
in
biological
systems
engineering.
D
Thank
you
to
the
board
of
supervisors
for
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
via
the
note
cards,
I'd
like
to
draw
attention
to
the
rules
and
procedure
of
the
board
of
supervisors.
Citizen
comment
period.
Why
decision
been
made
to
not
follow
established
rules
and
pursuit
of
sex
and
pursue
it
section
3.4
of
the
county
charter?
This
is
not
a
official
board
meeting.
D
D
Is
this
i2
revenue
so
necessary?
The
board
cannot
balance
the
county's
budget
in
years,
one
through
10
without
the
i2
revenue.
In
other
words,
is
this
i2
rezoning
necessary
to
balance
the
county's
budget?
Is
there
no
other
solution?
I
don't
know
dr
casey
you've
got
to
speak
you're
the
you
have
more
of
a
budget
background
than
I
do
for
sure.
F
Yeah
fair
question:
again:
we're
not
balancing
the
next
fiscal
year
or
even
fiscal
years
in
the
next
five
years,
with
any
project
that
would
be
here
again.
This
is
just
a
long-term
goal
of
bringing
the
residential
commercial
in
line
and
balance
our
our
95
cent
tax
rate.
That's
proposed
to
be
93
that
the
board's
already
lowered
it
as
far
as
a
public
hearing
is
still
probably
too
high
to
many
residents
and
and
prospective
businesses.
F
So
we
feel
the
need
to
try
and
balance
that
lower
the
burdens,
as
well
as
take
the
revenues
from
such
commercial
endeavors
to
invest
it
into
the
infrastructure,
schools,
roads
and
others.
That
again,
you
as
a
community
have
said
many
times
we
are
behind
in
all
of
those
things,
so
the
only
way
to
catch
up
is
to
rely
upon
the
commercial
sector
and
its
tax,
generating
revenue.
D
Why
focus
on
industrial
manufacturing
jobs
with
lower
wages
in
an
area
where
homes
are
selling
in
the
600s
to
1
million
the
industries
that
we've
targeted,
those
average
wages
are
the
ones
we've
looked
at?
Are
the
90s
to
the
100
to
the
six
figures?
These
are
not
15
to
20
an
hour
jobs
again,
not
that
there's
anything
wrong
with
those
jobs
either.
Certainly
I'm
not
not
above
that.
D
D
Will
these
companies
be
sourcing
the
water
and
dumping
their
waste
into
our
municipal
system?
How's,
the
system
equipped
to
remove
hazardous
chemicals
from
these
industrial
end
uses.
How
are
drinking
water
and
recreational
water
bodies
be
protected
so
yeah?
If
there
were
any
discharge
of
the
wastewater
system,
they
would
need
a
permit
to
do
that.
That
would
go
through
our
utilities
department,
so
we
would
know
in
detail
the
the
composition
of
any
of
that.
We
have
an
extensive,
both
pre-treatment
and
you
know
monitoring
for
all
of
that.
D
So
that
is
heavily
regulated
both
well
on
the
county
side
as
as
well
as
I
believe,
on
the
on
the
state
side,
how
is
it
equipped
with
hazardous
chemicals
for
these
industry?
Industrial
uses
again
it's
it
depends
on
what
it
is.
The
wastewater
treatment
plants
and
the
water
treatment
plants
do
do
a
variety
of
different
things,
so
you
know
absent
knowing
what
that
is.
We
can't
speak
to
the
chemical
composition
or
what
would
be
necessary
to
mitigate
it.
D
Only
that
we're
confident
that
that
you
know
we've
got
the
right
folks
on
board
that
are
able
to
to
figure
that
out
and
how
will
our
tricky
water
and
recreational
water
bodies
be
protected,
assuming
that
the
the
this
means
the
swift
creek
reservoir
again
there.
You
know
there
is
no
discharge
into
groundwater
or
local
streams
from
any
sort
of
industry,
so
it
would
be
storm
water
which
again
is
treated
up
to
the
highest
levels.
D
Why
did
county
spend
money
that
was
needed
to
bring
infrastructure
to
support
what
you
approve
for
developing
the
mosley
area?
In
terms
of
the
purchase
of
the
property,
you
know
the
purchase
price
that
that
we
that
that
it
was
13
billion,
I
think,
is
right.
Would
you
would
you
look
at
overall
acquiring
property
out
in
this
area
for
schools
alone?
You
know
we
would
typically
have
exceeded
that.
D
What
stable
sources
of
non-competitive,
federal
and
state
funding
have
you
identified
to
secure
700
plus
million
dollars
to
build
out
the
po
parkway?
That's
part
of
the
conversation,
I.
I
certainly
think
that
you
know
when
this
moves
forward.
You
know
there
will
be
conversations
with
our
state
and
federal
partners
to
say
you
know
hey.
We
we
have
this
now,
let's
talk
about
how
we
get
the
po
I
parkway,
and
it's
going
to
have
to
be
through
multiple
sources.
D
Obviously
it
is
a
large
dollar
figure,
so
we
do
anticipate
multiple
sources
needing
to
be
used
to
do
that.
What
is
the
projected
cost
to
county
taxpayers
to
build
out
the
west
side
prior
to
bringing
in
industry?
Again?
Don't
don't
have
those
dollar
figures
at
this
point,
and
it
also
is
difficult
to
say
because
we
don't
know
how
much
would
come
out
of
you
know
the
commonwealth's
coffers,
as
well
as
possibly
the
federal
government,
so
it's
hard
to
assign
those
costs
absent
knowing
what
the
end
user
is
and
what
it
looks
like.
D
Why
are
these
companies
we're
trying
to
attract
not
already
in
our
current
industrial
areas?
Again,
that's
because
we
have
a
lack
of
adequately
sized
industrial
areas.
We
really
don't
have
anything
that
would
accommodate
users
of
this
particular
nature.
So
that's
why
the
zoning
is
being
proposed
is
to
provide
the
canvas
so
that
that
that
can
occur.
D
Is
the
board
where,
if
any
industrial
businesses
have
an
interest
in
doing
business
in
the
area,
we
do
not
want
manufacturing
our
in
our
area?
Why
bring
in
industries
we
don't
want?
We
don't
want
underneath
the
the
zone
like
yeah,
I
think
the
zone
industrial.
You
know.
I,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
if
you
watched
the
presentation
from
jason
o'coobee
the
other
week
at
the
board,
you
know
he
did
say
that
intel,
which
I
think
is
locating
now
in
new
albany
ohio
was
interested
in
this
site.
D
So,
if
you're
familiar
with
intel
again,
it
was
a
built
multi-billion
dollar
investment
in
ohio,
so
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
particular
users
that
could
see
a
site
viable
like
this
again,
the
hurdle
being
that
it's
it's
not
currently
zoned
and
it
is
certainly
needs
some
infrastructure.
So
those
would
be
the
the
two
items
from
an
intel
perspective
that
they
would
recommend
would
would
make
it
a
a
viable
site
or
would
have
for
them.
D
D
So
I'm
assuming
they're
in
wastewater
treatment
plants,
so
I
I
I
could
grab
mike
again,
but
I
think
this
would
go
down
to
proctor's
creek.
We
have
two
fallen
creek
at
proctor's.
Creek
are
the
two
that
we
have
but
yeah.
We
have
wastewater
tree
plates
within
the
the
county
that
that's
where
the
wastewater
would
go.
D
You
mentioned
node
drainage
contamination.
What
mechanisms
will
be
in
place
to
regularly
verify
and
ensure
this?
Will
there
be
routine
testing
in
third
party
verification?
Again,
some
of
that's
going
to
depend
on
what
specific
industry
is
there,
each
one's
going
to
vary
as
to
monitoring
requirements
and
permitting
requirements?
So
again
I
hate
to
say,
but
it's
just
too
early
to
say
without
having
an
industry,
we're
at
the
8
30
mark.
A
Well,
thank
you,
mr
smith.
I
have
to
say
that
that
was
record
speed
for
answering
many
many
questions.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
out
tonight
and,
as
we
noted,
there
are
still
many
opportunities
for
you
and
will
be
continued
opportunities
for
you
to
be
heard
and
to
go
online
also
and
post
any
questions
you
have
as
a
result
of
tonight.
So
thank
you
all
as
well
as
those
of
you
who
are
joining
us
virtually
for
participating
tonight.