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From YouTube: January 25, 2023 - Budget Update - BOS Meeting
Description
This work session covered a range of budget related topics including a preview of the CIP and operating budget, an update on real estate revaluation, school enrollment, and an overview of the Superintendent's budget proposal. This work session marks the kick-off of the FY24 season and it is purely informational in nature.
A
A
This
is
a
pretty
comprehensive
but
relatively
concise,
update
to
kind
of
just
cue
you
up
for
our
budget
season,
which
begins
in
Earnest
today.
You've
had
some
activity
on
school
side
yesterday.
So
we'll
summarize,
all
of
that
and
really
give
you
a
nice
place
to
to
launch
off
into
the
whole
season
I'm
going
to
let
Mr
Durkin
come
up
and
walk
you
through
sort
of
the
economic
backdrop.
A
B
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
Dr
Casey,
just
a
really
quick
economic
update
for
you.
First
of
all,
we'll
touch
on
the
real
estate
market.
Obviously
the
largest
portion
of
our
budget
in
any
given
year
simply
put
it's
facing
headwinds.
B
It's
been
remarkably
resilient
in
terms
of
all
the
pressures
that
it's
facing
and
I've
been
up
here
before
and
I'll
say
again.
This
is
not
a
similar
situation
to
what
we
were
in
about
14
15
years
ago,
and
the
situations
that
we're
looking
at
now
are
slightly
different.
B
It's
a
loss,
it's
been
in
the
last
18
weeks,
but
it's
still
people.
If
you're
buying
a
300,
000
home
or
still
paying
over
500
or
more
a
month
in
their
mortgage
payment
than
they
were
this
time
a
year
ago,
so
there
are
still
some
pressures
and
one
of
the
things
that
a
lot
of
people
and
myself
included,
took
advantage
of
with
the
lower
rates
was
to
refinance
their
homes
with
the
interest
rate
Market
being
what
it
is.
Now.
B
The
activity
and
refinancing
has
came
back
down
to
pretty
much
pre-pandemic
levels,
and
we
have
been
fortunate
in
our
budget
for
the
last
few
years
to
be
the
recipient
of
increased
retardation
taxis.
We
knew
that
this
was
coming
and
we
factored
that
in
to
our
23
budget
is
part
of
our
24
budget
as
well.
B
I'm
looking
at
the
situation
nationally
and
this
the
situation
is
not
unique
to
us.
It's
happening
to
all
our
neighbors
and
across
the
entire
nation,
and
this
is
the
case
Shiller
index,
one
of
the
national
indices.
That's
used
to
track
the
housing
market,
especially
with
repeat
sales,
which
is
what
goes
into
a
reval
process
as
part
of
the
annual
assessment.
As
you
can
see
there,
as
of
October,
the
prices
were
up
9.2
percent,
but
the
house
price
house
price
growth
I
should
say
is
moderating.
That's
something
that
we're
seeing
also
in
the
county.
B
B
So
look
into
our
latest
land
book.
We
got,
we
met
with
the
ssls.
We
call
this.
A
total
land
book
is
up
just
a
shade
under
10
to
55.4
billion
dollars
that
is
split
between
residential
and
Commercial
residential,
just
under
44th
commercial.
Just
the
shade
under
12.
and
I
will
draw
your
attention
to
the
revaluation
box
for
the
residential.
That's
probably
the
number
that
most
people
are
aware
of
for
a
calendar
year,
2023
that
is
up
8.8
I'm,
going
back
to
that
chart.
B
You
can
see
for
nationally
it's
about
9.2,
so
we're
going
to
really
write
in
that
ballpark
where
things
are
happening
nationally.
We
are
house
prices
here
are
not
surging
ahead
on
a
growth
basis
compared
to
what's
happening
in
the
National
picture,
we're
very
much
in
line
with
what
is
going
on
and
the
assessments
I
believe
have
started
going
out,
so
they
should
be
coming
into
people's
mailboxes
in
the
next
few
days
we
debuted
this
chart
last
year.
B
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
when
we're
developing
our
annual
budget
is
we
look
at
the
population
growth
and
we
also
look
at
the
core
inflation
rate
year
over
year
change.
Essentially,
what
was
the
cost
of
doing
business?
Those
two
factors
together
really
determine
you
know.
Where
are
we
in
terms
of
a
residential
revaluation
in
terms
of
you
know,
covering
that
basic
growth
as
people
move
in
and
there's
inflation
across
the
services
increase?
That
obviously
puts
pressure
upward
pressure
on
our
budget.
B
We
would
like
to
make
sure
that
any
kind
of
rate
a
revaluation
changes
in
line
with
what
that
is,
so
that
we're
not
searching
ahead
of
all
those
core
increases
are
and
you'll
take
action
last
month
for
the
maximum
tax
rate
to
drop
another
Penny
from
92
cents
to
91
cents
per
100
of
assessed
value,
the
re-evalue
rate
over
being
8.8.
B
With
that
one
cent
adjustment
that
brings
it
down
to
the
7.8
effective
revaluation
rate,
as
you
can
see
some
years,
that
effective
rate
kind
of
goes
either
above
or
stays
slightly
below
the
cost
of
the
course
API,
as
well
as
population,
so
we're
right
in
line
of
what
basically
is
essentially
the
cost
of
doing
business
as
a
result
of
increases
in
those
two
factors
and
one
of
the
topics
that's
been
really
headlining
over
the
last
year
again,
both
locally
and
nationally
are
personal
property
values,
especially
as
it
relates
to
vehicles
with
all
the
supply
chain
issues
that
happened
over
the
last
year
that
per
not
blood
pressure
on
the
assessment
values
that
we,
you
know.
B
The
board
took
action
on
last
year
to
effectively
increase
the
tax
relief
rate
for
vehicles
to
help
kind
of
cushion
that
blow
from
the
rising
values,
and
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
the
commissioner
and
tracking
nationally
what's
happening
as
well.
As
you
can
see
here
on
the
two
charts
before
you
on
the
left
and
on
the
right,
prices
are
actually
coming
down
and
the
market
is
beginning
to
stabilize,
which
is
a
good
sign.
We
will
have
more
updated
information,
as
the
commissioner's
office
will
run
those
assessments
over
the
next
month
or
so.
B
So
just
a
quick
recap
on
the
personal
billing
process,
the
Commissioner's
Office
are
working
through
the
estimated
values
as
of
the
beginning
of
this
year.
We
will
be
working
with
her
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
to
determine
what
those
assessed
values
would
be
once
we
know
those,
then
we
will
come
back
to
the
board
with
recommendations
about
how
to
proceed,
and
that
could
be
again
adjustments
to
the
tax
relief.
It
could
be.
B
Adjustments
to
the
assessment
ratios
that
other
places
in
the
state
have
done
over
the
last
year,
as
well
as
maybe
or
may
not
having
to
utilize
that
10
million
dollar
personal
property
to
reserve
the
board's
set
up
last
December.
It
really
just
does
depend
on
how
the
market
conditions
shake
out.
Once
we
get
those
evaluations
as
to
what
the
next
steps
are,
but
we
have
been
very
cognizant
and
you'll
have
been
very
deliberate
over
the
last
year
to
ensure
that
we
can
moderate
any
such
increases
that
we
could
see.
B
But
again
reiterate
those
values
have
been
coming
down.
So
we
do
not
expect
to
see
a
repeat
of
last
year
as
we
go
through
this
process:
inflation
Hot
Topic
over
the
last
year
and
continues
to
be
at
the
reading
of
December
and
the
core
CPI,
which
basically
rips
out
food
and
energy
costs
that
are
more
volatile
than
other
sources.
It's
up
about,
5.7,
it
is
dampening,
is
down
from
that
increase,
but
it
could
be
a
long
journey
ahead.
B
C
Good
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
note
on
here.
You
know:
I've
gone
back
to
shopping
at
Walmart,
not
that
I,
you
know
left
Walmart,
but
occasionally
I
would
go
in
now,
I'm
going
in
there
a
lot
more
and
I
went
in
there
the
other
day
and
bought
18
eggs.
It
was
nine
dollars,
18
eggs
for
nine
dollars
and
I
think
when
you
start
realizing
and
seeing
that
type
of
staple
going
up
that
amount,
people
start
to
really
get
a
sense
of
what
we're
up
against
in
in
the
economy.
C
That's
that
we're
in
and
the
economy
that
we're
going
to
be
in
here
looks
like
for
the
near
period
and
so
I
do
think.
We
have
to
keep
all
of
that
in
mind
that
people
are
paying
sometimes
four
times
what
they
were
paying
for
a
commodity
in
the
grocery
store
at
Walmart
I
shop
at
night.
So
you
know
it's
it's
an
interesting
place
to
go
and
shop
at
night.
I'll
just
leave
it
there,
but
it's!
C
B
It's
certainly
something
that
you
know
when
I
was
at
people
for
Mr
Holland
asked
about.
When
we
look
at
our
budgets
throughout
the
year.
It's
certainly
something
that
we
keep
an
eye
on,
especially
you
can
see
on
the
chart
to
the
left,
with
the
energy
prices,
Mr
Bull's
referenced,
the
increase
in
the
prices
for
electricity
and
other
utilities.
We
are
seeing
that
and
I
will
say
if
my
team
ever
hear
me
say
the
words,
electricity
and
inflation
again.
B
D
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
yeah,
thank
you
for
mentioning
that,
because
one
thing
I've
always
been
cognizant
of
and
concerned
with,
is
managing
our
budgets
and
make
sure
we
look
at
the
budget
pressures
we're
facing
in
the
county.
So
we
know
looking
at
the
revenue
side
of
the
equation,
we're
looking
at
the
cost
size
because
of
our
budgets
for
our
respective
departments
and
areas.
So
those
are
things
that
I
think
we
want
to
really
be
attuned
to
as
we
prepare
and
look
at
this
current
budget.
So
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Yep.
B
B
We
knew
that
this
was
going
to
come
back
down.
You
know:
double
digit
increases
is
clearly
not
sustainable,
but
you
can
see
there
has
been
quite
a
mark
to
slow
down
in
the
last
two
months
with
October's
numbers
actually
dipping
below
what
they
were
on
the
prior
year.
Inflation
is
really
taking
its
toll
on
the
consumer.
I
will
say
that
when
we
built
our
2023
budget,
we
did
not
forecast
significant
increases
in
that
number.
B
B
You
know
the
last
couple
of
years
the
Portugal
emphasis
on
compensation
for
both
the
County
Schools
Employees
labor
market
is
incredibly
tight.
Still
it
may
be
softening
in
some
areas,
you've
seen
the
headlines,
especially
with
tech
companies
laying
people
off
over
the
last
few
weeks
when
they've
been
on
a
hiring
speed
during
the
pandemic,
but
the
costs
to
get
talent
in
the
front
door
are
still
high
and
the
labor
costs
you
can
see
in
the
chart.
There
are
the
high
since
2001..
This
is
labor
index,
which
does
include
salaries
and
benefits.
B
You
know,
as
Mr
Harris
likes
to
say
we
are
a
people
business
and
it
does
cost
a
lot
of
money,
especially
in
this
market,
to
attract
and
retain
talent,
and
we
are
seeing
that
both
nationally
and
on
a
county-wide
level
as
well,
so
and
with
that,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
Otherwise,
I
will
turn
over
to
Mrs.
A
So
this
law
really
kind
of
starts
to
look
at
your
expenditure
side,
your
budgeting
and
just
we'll
touch
on
at
the
very
end.
But
from
a
process
perspective
you
got
the
sort
of
preliminary
layout
from
schools.
Yesterday
we
will
come
back
in
February
and
do
you
know
sort
of
update
some
of
those
same
topics
maybe
get
a
little
broader
on
the
revenue
side
and
then
the
county
CIP
next
month,
and
then
the
first
part
of
March
is
when
we
wrap
all
that
together
with
the
expenditure
side
of
the
house.
A
But
that
being
said,
you
know
I
think,
given
the
the
topics
that
Mr
Durkin
just
walked
through.
You
know
these
are
the
kind
of
the
the
overall
the
the
big
themes
that
we're
looking
at
as
we
head
into
this
year.
Where
how
do
you
find
that
balance
by
providing-
and
you
know,
being
attuned
to
the
pressures
that
are
facing?
You
know
our
customers,
the
citizens,
as
well
as
recognizing
that
all
those
inflationary
pressures
and
those
employment
costs
and.
E
A
Certainly,
having
a
a
stark
impact
on
the
organization
to
trying
to
thread
that
needle
we've
been
in
that
space
for
the
last
couple
years,
but
probably
even
more
so
as
we
head
into
this
fiscal
24
budget.
So
as
you
see,
you
know
laid
out
there
in
the
middle
part
of
it,
labor
market,
you
know
continues
to
be.
That's
been
the
theme
of
the
last
two
budgets
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
push
on
that
the
phase
two
for
the
non-sworn
Personnel
on
the
county
and
school
side.
A
You
know
a
year
ago,
we
said
that's
kind
of
the
last
thing
that
came
out
of
our
miles
was
you
know,
we'll
pick
up
the
fy24
budget
with
this
topic
and
we
certainly
want
to
follow
through.
You
know
on
that
problem,
to
the
extent
that
that
we
can
that's
priority
number
one
recognizing
that
again,
all
of
these
inflationary
pressures
are
hitting
us
in
a
variety
of
ways.
As
we
look
at
over
this
five-year
Horizon,
there
will
be
upward
pressure
on
debt
service
on
the
county
and
school
side.
A
We
knew
that
going
in
the
referendum's
in
place
again,
not
a
lot
of
flexibility.
There
will
talk
about
schools
here
in
just
a
second.
You
all
have
already
taken
action
to
lower
the
rate
down
to
effectively
to
91.
can
go
lower,
can't
go
higher
and
then
we've
spent
you
know
as
you'll
see
when
we
get
into
the
to
the
last
next
couple
months,
but
a
five
million
dollar
increase
effectively
in
tax
relief
program
and
that's
not
all
attributed,
of
course,
to
seniors.
A
But
you
know
it's
there's,
certainly
no
direct
path
through
all
of
the
the
competing
forces
that
we're
facing
as
we
head
into
FY
24.,
so
just
hitting
a
couple
things
again
just
trying
to
set
the
stage
for
you
as
we
embark
on
the
next
couple
months.
This
is
the
first
overall
referendum
layout
that
we
have
shown
you
last
year
for
just
demonstration
purposes.
As
you
remember,
on
the
capital
side,
we
do
a
five-year
you
actually
vote
on
a
five-year
plan
from
the
capital
side.
The
first
year
is
the
only
one
that
has
appropriation.
A
The
referendum
by
its
very
nature,
is
going
to
extend
beyond
that.
So
this
is
what
it
looks
like
over
seven
years,
you've
already
approved
the
FY
23
projects.
You
did
that
last
year,
speculative
basis,
hoping
that
we
would
get
approved
and
we
certainly
had
a
positive
result
in
November.
So
we
are
moving
forward
now
in
all
aspects
of
these
projects.
The
Chester
Fire
Station,
the
Eastern
Midlothian
station
that
you're
well
aware
of
and
then
sort
of
the
first
phases
of
River
City
and
Horner
Park.
So
that's
the
things
that
staff
is
working
on
actively.
A
We
anticipate
a
bond
sale
related
to
those.
Unless
something
you
know
odd
happens
in
the
marketplace
in
May,
June
time
frame,
so
FY
23
will
move
on.
So
you'll
pick
up
your
voting
on
The
referendum
projects
and
the
sequencing,
of
course
with
fy24,
and
then
you
see
that
extends
out.
We
believe
we
would
do
this
over
a
seven
year
period.
I
think
that's
the
most!
You
know
prudent
way
to
go
about
it
if
we
can
accelerate
it
short
of
that,
then
we
certainly
would
we'll
go
into
this
more.
A
Your
CIP
work
session
next
month,
but
again
just
trying
to
give
you
all
in
the
public
now
that
the
products
are
approved
exactly
how
they
would
come
out
of
the
shoot
in
terms
of
an
ordering.
So
you
see
that
natural
Rhythm
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
number
of
years,
where
you
kind
of
have
the
the
Human
Service
quality
of
life
items
straddling
and
alternating
with
the
public
safety
projects,
the
police
stations
and
fire
stations
so
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
this
I
know.
A
That's
no
question
on
that:
we'll
jump
over
to
the
school
side
and
this
was
sort
of
the
original
thrust.
If
you
will
of
this
work
session,
we
got
yesterday
just
again
process
process
process,
we'll
keep
saying
that
you
got
the
superintendent's
proposal
came
out
yesterday
so
that
both
pieces
for
them
schools,
you
know
In
fairness
to
them-
is
in
a
very
abbreviated
timetable.
They
have
to
have
their
full
plan
over
to
the
County
Administrator
by
March
1.
A
So
they
start
before
we
do,
and
they
did
that
yesterday,
at
a
budget
work
session
starting
around
two
o'clock,
so
I'm
going
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
today,
because
something
we
had
previously
planned
on
the
stratus
update
I'll,
show
you
how
that
kind
of
overlays
with
the
draft
CIP
that's
out
there
understanding
and
admitting
that
that's
just
a
superintendent's
proposal
and
then
we'll
look
at
some
high
level
remarks
from
their
operating
budget,
which
is
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
I.
Think
you'll,
see
on
the
CIP
side.
A
So,
just
a
little
bit
of
background,
because
you
know,
there's
been
some
back
and
forth
I
think
in
certain
pockets
of
community
about
the
strategy
platform
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
of
a
few
basic
things
before
we
get
into
some
of
the
results.
First
and
foremost,
Stratus
is
a
long-range
Capital
planning
tool.
It
is
not
a
platform
that
sits
here
to
solely
deal
with
School
enrollment
topics.
We
it
has
built
on
a
certain
methodology
and
we've
been
able
to
extend
that
now
into
schools.
A
That's
been
very
helpful
and
I
think
you'll
see
that
in
just
a
second,
but
we
also
have
fire
parks
and
libraries
are
using
it
to
try
to
understand
where
their
customers
are
coming
from
now
and,
more
importantly,
where
they're
likely
to
come
from
in
the
future,
so
that
we
make
Intelligent
Decisions
about
the
placement
and
ordering
of
capital
facilities.
It's
the
most
expensive
part
of
our
business
and
Stratus
really
provides
us
those
those
insights.
A
This
is
the
fourth
Stratus
enrollment
projection
as
it
does
relate
to
school,
because
that's
where
we
started
off,
that
is
of
the
capital
range
of
capital
decisions.
That
is
the
most
difficult
to
do
and
it
is
the
priceiest.
So
that's
where
we
started
our
efforts
four
years
ago.
So
this
is
the
fourth
one
of
these.
We
only
produce
a
five-year
number.
A
There
are
no
intervening
forecasts
we
produce
what
we
think
enrollment
will
be
at
these
in
these
particular
geographies
five
years
from
now
so
next
year
we
will
have
you
know
our
fifth
and
we'll
you
know
be
able
to
do
a
little
bit
different
kind
of
compare
and
contrast.
But
this
is
our
fourth
one
and
all
of
the
information
is
available
on
the
the
portal.
If
you
go
on
the
website,
you
can
drill
and
see
for
each
individual
school.
We
do
that
every
fall.
A
This
again
is
the
fourth
time
that
we've
done
that
overall,
the
model
is
looking
for
enrollment
aggregate
for
the
system-wide
to
Crest
68
000
students
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
27-28
school
year,
and
you
saw
that
was
reflected
in
multiple
places
in
the
superintendents
remarks.
Yesterday,
so
certainly
steady
growth,
we,
you
know
we
had
sort
of
a
bumpy
period
there
with
covid
a
lot
of
forces
coming
to
bear
on
that.
A
So
let
me
Orient
you
to
what's
on
the
screen,
so
we
you're
going
to
see
a
series
of
three
Maps
over
the
rest
of
the
presentation.
What's
plotted
is
enrollment
capacity
as
it
exists
today
in
you
know,
based
on
FY
27,
enrollment
forecasting
so
set
another
way.
This
is
the
capacity
of
the
system
held
steady
and
using
the
stratus
projection
for
what
the
student
counts
would
be
in
27
28..
So
when
you
see
darker
colors
darker
generally
means
that
there
is
capacity
stress
in
the
system
in
those
areas.
It
is
not
yet
factoring
in.
A
You
know
what
the
CIP,
what
relief
the
CIP
would
bring,
but
that's
where
we
kind
of
got
off
to
the
side
and
then
the
dots
represent
where
we've
got
a
current
project
in
the
system.
A
current
project
that
is
yellow
means
that
it
is
anticipated
to
be
open
by
the
time
these
enrollment
projections
would
be
true,
so
you
will
begin
to
see
where
the
CIP
is
providing
relief,
if
there's
a
blue
dot.
A
That
means
it's
an
active
and
identified
CIP
project
as
of
the
superintendent's
proposal,
but
it's
not
yet
in
play
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
27-28
school
year.
So
you
just
kind
of
walk
through
the
darkest
areas
on
the
map,
just
just
visually
looking
at
it,
and
certainly
don't
want
to
represent
that
these
are
the
exact
pinpoints
of
any
of
these
facilities.
A
We
use
the
biggest
dots
we
could
find
just
to
kind
of
give
a
general
sense
again
trying
to
answer
the
question:
does
the
stratus
forecast
line
up
with
what
we've
seen
from
not
only
the
referendum,
but
you
know
some
modifications
that
were
made
in
the
school
layout
as
presented
yesterday
old
hundred
up
in
the
northern
part
of
the
county
certainly
could
see
some
capacity
constraints
there.
That's
no
surprise
to
anyone.
There
is
a
new
old
hundred
reliever
elementary
school
that
has
been
inserted
in
the
school
CIP
that
was
laid
out
yesterday.
A
That's
not
a
referendum
project,
but
based
on
the
data
and
the
trends
that
are
out
there.
They
are
suggesting
that
that
would
be
a
reasonable
project
to
be
inserted
ahead
of
a
couple
referendum
projects.
But
again
we've
got
a
history
of
this.
We
did
it
in
2013
with
Mosley
Elementary,
and
you
see
that
kind
of
repeating
there
with
old
hundred
he
comes
out
the
yellow
dot
there
under
Woolridge,
that
is
the
Western
area.
A
Elementary
school
you've
certainly
got
some
darker
greens
there
that
that
appears
to
be
a
very
appropriate
project,
going
Eastward
AM
Davis
from
a
percentage
perspective.
Just
about
the
most
over
capacity
school
that
we
have
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
size
of
the
school,
but
you
see
aim
Davis,
which
would
be
one
of
the
first
projects
out
of
the
school
CIP
lineup,
adding
504
seats.
A
So
you
can
really
kind
of
check
that
one
off
your
list-
Fallen
Creek
and
in
this
area
here
with
Bensley
Hopkins,
Road
and
Henning,
the
Bensley
rebuild
up
there.
Adding
403
seats
adds
quite
a
bit
of
capacity
to
that
area.
But
schools
is
taking
a
look
at
this
and
with
the
projections
in
place
and
are
suggesting
that,
alongside
with
the
old
hundred
reliever,
there
would
be
a
general
Dale,
Elementary
reliever
in
that
area
that
would
be
opened
by
the
27-28
school
year.
A
Again,
it's
a
very
approximate
location,
but
you
see
up
here
on
the
the
box
in
the
top
right
hand
corner
that's
a
thousand
new
seats.
The
old
100
adds
a
thousand
new
seats.
The
Western
360,
which
is
a
referent
project,
adds
a
thousand
new
seats,
and
then
you
get
a
thousand
combined
between
AM
Davis
and
Bensley.
You
get
a
few
seats
out
of
Grange
hall,
which
is
a
referendum
project
down
in
the
Far
Western
portion
of
the
county.
A
That's
a
blue
dot
because
it's
it
would
be
outside
of
that
2728
area,
but
all
in
all
the
hot
spots,
if
you
will
on
the
elementary
lineup
from
what
stratuses
you
know,
will
be
something
to
pay
attention
to.
While
we
get
to
2728
lines
up
extremely
well,
I
would
tell
you
I
would
suggest
to
you
with
what
we've
seen
in
the
school
CIP
as
presented,
thus
far
so
4
000
seats,
plus
or
minus.
By
every
time
we
get
to
27-28.
E
Okay:
here's
a
quick
question
I'm
noticing
that
in
the
Midlothian
area,
you're
the
capacity
forecast
is
under
the
95
percent,
but
I
was
noticing
earlier
with
a
email
that
I
got
that
the
primary
amount
of
building
that
has
occurred
has
been
in
the
Midlothian
area.
So
I'm
a
little
confused
about
that.
Can
you
explain
that
to
me?
Well,.
A
A
That's
why
we
see
coming
back
in
with
the
old
hundred
reliever
and
I
think
that
is
a
direct
reflection
of
some
of
the
data
that
you're
referencing
and
it's
something
that
will
continue
to
work
on,
but
I
think
if
we
took
the
information,
that's
been
provided
to
you
by
planning
and
plotted
it
I
think
you
would
see
it
line
up
with
some
of
the
trends
that
we
are
picking
up
here
in
the
model.
If
that
makes
sense,.
F
Mr
Harris,
if
I
could
add
to
that,
and
it's
warranting
a
separate
meeting
with
you
I
think
the
email
you're
referring
to
are
zoned
Lots
or
zones
units.
That
is
so
so
two
things.
Some
things
come
in
zoned,
but
not
built
for
a
longer
period
of
time
and
then
two
a
lot
of
the
units
that
may
be
more
multi-family
or
townhome
have
a
far
less
student
yield
per
unit
than
than
a
single
family
neighborhood.
But
we'll
go
through
all
those
factors
with
you
and
we
can
go
through
what
we
think.
F
The
the
absorption
rate
is
the
key
item
for
zones
units.
So
it's
it's
not
all
going
to
be
coming
in
in
this
Horizon.
A
400
is
you
know,
open
now
at
plus
a
thousand
you're
talking
about
dropping
another
thousand
on
there,
so
you
certainly
haven't
been
able
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
those
capacity
strains.
But
it's
it's
a
it's
a
question
worth
exploring
Florida
for
sure,
as
we
just
switch
over
to
the
the
Middle
School
area.
Again,
you
know
I'll
try
to
use
the
the
pen
for
the
first
time
so
Tomahawk
Creek,
you
all
already
taking
action
on
that
as
well
as
Fallen
Creeks.
You
see
those
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
school
CIP.
A
You
have
to
see
the
two
yellow
dots
there.
I
think.
There's
no
surprise
there.
You
all
took
action.
You
know
a
year
ago
with
your
investments
in
the
SRP
that
freed
up
the
ability
to
do
this
and
those
projects
are
well
underway.
They
are
certainly
the
two
hottest
areas
in
from
a
middle
school
capacity
perspective
so
that
lines
up
well,
the
other
middle
school
projects,
the
Midlothian
middle
rebuild
and
the
other
wing
on
toica
middle.
A
They
are
pushed
to
the
outer
edges
of
this
plan
to
really
make
room
for
some
of
the
elementary
Investments
that
we
just
talked
through
and
from
a
capacity
perspective.
You
get
300
seats
to
Mid
low.
You
actually
lose
a
couple
seats
at
putting
the
other
Wayne
on
the
Matoaca
Middle
School,
so
that
those
aren't
really
capacity
plays,
and
certainly
the
school
CIP
places
great
emphasis
on
adding
capacity
to
the
system,
recognizing
that
these
are
valuable
things.
A
Metolica
project,
not
a
referendum,
but
it's
put
in
here
to
try
to
you,
know,
balance
out
that
school
and
then
Midlothian
middle
being
100
years
old,
as
we
saw
with
the
Grange
hall,
both
of
those
older
facilities
sitting
at
the
tail
end
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
attended
to
them
from
a
condition
perspective.
But
the
emphasis
on
capacity,
and
certainly
the
modeling
pays
attention
to
that.
A
You
will
notice
that,
as
you
go
to
Far
Eastern
portion
of
the
county,
Elizabeth
Davis,
still
in
sort
of
the
dark,
green
color,
but
you've
got
some
capacity
in
some
of
those
surrounding
areas.
That
will
be
a
question
in
a
topic
that
I
would
suggest
to.
You
is
kind
of
one
of
those
things
where
definitely
have
to
keep
a
Keen
Eye
on
as
we
move
forward.
I
know
that
the
Thomas
Dale
project
does
free
up
the
former
Chester
Middle
School
building,
which
has
has
some
potential
to
it.
A
So
you've
got
potential
there,
but
certainly
I
would
say
as
you
as
you
look
for
what
isn't
necessarily
directly
addressed
in
the
cip's
laid
out
and
there's
always
going
to
be
something
I
don't
want
to
suggest
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
fatal
flaw
by
any
stretch,
but
it's
probably
Rises
to
the
top
of
a
list
of
things
that
we
need
to
be
attentive
to
as
we
move
forward
through
the
next
couple
years.
You
know
the
CIP
will
Shuffle
around
a
little
bit.
A
Finally,
High
School's,
a
relatively
Simple
Story,
Cosby
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
surprise
that
Ms
Carol
you've
certainly
been
an
advocate
for
that.
That
is
a
referendum
project
as
it
was
laid
out
here
that
would
open
in
2026
the
26th
27
school
years.
The
way
they've
got
that
laid
out,
adding
2400
High
much
needed
High
School
seats
to
the
Western
portion
of
the
county,
Meadowbrook
being
the
other
kind
of,
as
we
saw
in
the
Middle
School.
The
other
thing
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on.
They
have
moved
some
folks
around,
which
you
certainly
see.
A
There
is
some
capacity
in
adjoining
district
there
from
a
high
school
perspective.
The
school
board
has
made
some
of
those
movements.
Maybe
some
more
are
online,
but
something
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
good
news
here
from
the
high
school
map
on
the
eastern
half
of
the
county.
You
certainly
have
some
some
possibilities
and
there's
no,
you
know
screaming,
need
right
now
for
additional
facilities.
F
And
Mr
Harrisburg
I
can
depend
to
that
too,
and
not
to
take
anything
from
the
colors.
But
this
map
assumes
that
there
are
no
students
that
are
ever
in
CTC,
Hull
or
or
the
courthouse
Road
by
LC
Bird
to
trade
and
Technical
centers
or
other
students
who
may
be
out
in
internships
senior
year
or
outside
of
the
school
premises.
And,
as
you
know,
in
addition
to
that,
we're
working
to
try
and
maximize
the
space
at
CTC
Hall
with
the
school.
F
A
If
we
just
take,
we
fast
forward
five
years
and
we
look
at
the
stratus
figures,
the
system
capacity
goes
to
almost
103
percent,
but
just
executing
the
projects
that
are
would
be
in
place
by
2728
lowers
the
system
capacity
on
this
projected
basis
to
right
around
90.
So
it
certainly
makes
a
very
significant
investment
and
see
it's
adding
almost
9
000
seats
across
each
level
of
the
system.
If
you
look
at
it
on
a
more
granular
level,
Elementary
goes
from
almost
96
percent
down
to
the
mid
80s
Middle
School
we're
recognizing.
A
As
we
touched
on,
we
still
have
to
be
attentive
there
and
high
school.
You
know
back
below
where
it
is
today
about
94.7
recognizing
Dr
Casey
said:
there's,
there's
other
options
and
we
are
certainly
teeing
up
other
Investments
that
will
help
there.
Those
aren't
you
know
the
the
technical
center
movement
is
not
something
that
the
model
is
able
to
easily
get
its
arms
around,
but
that's
something
that
we
will
continue
to
to
take
a
look
at
as
we
for
it.
So
all
in
all,
I
think
the
school
CIP
looks
good
it.
A
It
hits
the
the
places
that
need
the
most
attention.
There
are
some
questions,
a
couple,
little
areas
that
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
for
maybe
additional
interventions
as
we
move
to
the
next
five
to
seven
years,
but
all
in
all
CIP
the
referendum
and
our
modeling.
All
line
up
pretty
well
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
that.
C
Mr
chairman
I
mean
obviously
this
is
something
that
we
are
delighted
to
have
Stratus
do
for
us,
which
is
do
do
these
projections,
and
this
is
why
we
go
through
what
the
iterated
iterative
process
we
just
went
through
with
the
bond
referendum,
so
I
mean
seeing
those
numbers
at
the
end
of
the
rainbow
is
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
you
know.
C
I
mean
ideally
we're
we're
in
that
range,
and
you
know
the
the
two
new
middle
schools
that
are
going
up
in
a
Mr
Holland,
the
Mr,
Holland's
district
and
and
and
also
the
tomahawk
reliever,
which
is
in
Mr
Carroll's
District,
which
will
help
out
Tomahawk
Creek
immensely
are
extremely
important
and,
as
are
all
these
other
projects
and
I'm
delighted
that
we're
not
just
sticking
with
the
bond
referendum
that
we're
also
looking
to
make
these
additions.
Where
needed
these
spot
schools
where
we
know
we
need
them.
C
So
I
think
the
message
is
clear,
and
that
is
we're
going
to
make
these
Capital
investments
in
the
school
system
that
are
needed
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
be
attentive
to
the
growth
in
our
area.
We
are
a
growing
County
because
we
are
a
successful
County.
We
have
safe,
School,
a
safe,
safe
communities,
good
schools
and
people
are
going
to
want
to
continue
to
move
to
a
place
like
that
so
and
increasingly
I
think
we're
seen
as
a
job
leader.
So
that
will
all
continue
and
we
will
continue
to
have
these
discussions.
A
And
I'll
we'll
get
some
more
information
to
you,
particularly
as
we
get
into
late
February
and
March,
but
I
would
also
you
know,
I.
Think
County
staff
has
strong
confidence
in
the
major
maintenance
program
that
the
schools
is
going
on
the
way,
so
that's
kind
of
the
other
part
of
this
doesn't
doesn't
show
up.
This
is
you
know,
really
a
shift
more
to
capacity
versus
the
2013
referendum,
but
I
think
given
some
of
the
leadership
over
there.
A
That's
happening
on
the
major
maintenance
front.
So
you
know
that
when
we
sort
of
stand
up
here
and
give
endorsement
and
and
feel
good
about
the
capital,
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost.
I
think
that's
also
going
going
very
well
so
Switching
gears
and
it
won't
get
into
too
much
depth
on
this.
But
superintendent
did
alongside
his
Capital
plan,
which
we
just
went
through,
went
through
the
operating
layout
yesterday.
A
So
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
things
and
maybe
have
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
discussion
on
this,
so
the
again
process
process
process.
The
budget
that
came
out
yesterday
is
simply
a
proposal
by
the
superintendent.
It
has
been
received
Now
by
your
counterparts
on
the
school
board,
but
it
is
just
that
it
is
just
a
proposal
and
the
superintendent
is
in
a
tough
spot
when
it
comes
to
the
information
that's
available
to
him.
We
are
just
beginning
our
process.
A
A
That
being
said,
he
did
come
out
and
say,
based
on
the
things
and
his
survey
of
the
school
division's
needs
that
his
plan
is
16.8
million
dollars
short
of
being
balanced.
You
know,
I
think
as
it
compared
to
recent
layouts
at
this
time.
You
know
in
the
process:
it's
certainly
a
smaller
number
than
we've
seen
I.
Think
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
on
the
board
for
a
little
while,
it's
not
that
long
ago
we
were
staring
at
a
hundred
million
dollar
number.
So
you
know
everything
has
to
be.
A
You
know,
sort
of
taken
in
context.
Our
initial
again,
you
haven't
even
seen
that
you
won't
get
the
county
administrator's
proposed
budget
until
you
know
March
8th,
March,
7th
somewhere
in
there.
But
what
we
know
today
and
what
we
have
planned
on
from
our
Five-Year
Plan
from
last
year,
is
a
base
17
million
dollar
increase.
A
You
did
see
that
in
their
materials
yesterday,
that's
a
a
healthy
number
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's
the
final
one,
but
it
is
the
number
that
we
really
have
to
commit
to
this
time
last
year
and
that's
what
we
have
been
in.
You
know
regular
contact
with
Dr
tylice
and
his
folks,
and
we
said
we're
going
to
stick
to
that
number.
We
can
make
the
17.
again.
Doesn't
it's
kind
of
like
the
tax
rate
discussion?
It
doesn't
necessarily
we're
not
necessarily
going
to
go
below
it.
A
We
may
be
able
to
go
above
it,
but
from
a
planning
perspective,
you
know
we're
providing
that
to
them
before
you
know.
Mr
Bloomfield
and
his
staff
can
even
bring
us
the
final
assessment
notices.
So
17
is
where
we
set.
You
didn't
see
this
mentioned
yesterday
and
that's
sort
of
unfortunate,
but
we
have
communicated
and
worked
with
our
School
appears
to
say
we
recognize
we
have
a
lot
of
shared
services
that
we
do
with
schools
and
I.
Think
we've.
A
You
know
that's
been
a
topic
in
this
boardroom
many
many
times
because
of
the
inflationary
impacts
and
a
lot
of
things
we've
been
doing
for
the
workforce.
Those
costs
have
increased.
So
what
we
said
is
we
will
take
a
pause
on
passing
those
increased
costs
along
to
the
school
division,
still
offering
the
same
level
of
service,
no
Services
reduced
no
Services
eliminated,
but
just
not
passing
along
those
increases
right
now,
recognizing
all
the
things
that
are
swirling
around,
so
that
has
an
over
a
million
dollar
savings.
A
So
not-
and
this
is
kind
of
where
this
gets
tricky
and
where
I
think
everybody
just
has
to
take.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
caution
with
some
of
the
things
we're
in
the
presentation.
Not
everything
happens
on
the
revenue
side
of
the
house.
It
is
possible
to
get
relief
on
the
expense
side.
It
doesn't
necessarily
show
up
in
a
state
formula.
A
A
Again,
this
is
a
way
that
we
support
School
Division,
it
didn't
show
up,
and
necessarily
some
of
the
metrics
that
get
cited
and
you're
going
to
get
emails
about,
but
just
keep
these
examples
in
mind:
13
million
dollar
cash
investment
over
the
next
two
budgets
that
will
go
into
the
the
backbone
system
that
from
a
financial
perspective
that
supports
both
organizations
and
the
county,
is
picking
up
the
full
tab
of
that
it.
You
know
from
a
employee
perspective,
it's
supporting
4
000
folks
over
here.
A
You
know
nine
ten
thousand
over
there,
so
they
certainly
get
a
significant
benefit
from
it.
They're
at
the
table,
they're
Partners
in
the
procurement
and
the
the
requirements
and
all
of
those
things,
but
we
are
paying
you
know
for
that
entire
bill
so,
and
there
certainly
is
some
I
wouldn't
suggest
it,
but
in
the
superintendent's
presentation
there
are
some
examples
of
other
ways
that
we
support
the
division
but
I'm
here
just
to
tell
you
there
continues
to
be
all
these
things.
It's
not
just
that
Top
Line
transfer
number
that
you
need
to
pay
attention
to.
A
We
continue
to
be
engaged
even
today
with
school
staff.
As
we
get
more
information
to
try
to
you
know
dial
this
thing
in
further
as
we
move
throughout
the
process,
I
would
sit
here
and
tell
you.
I
do
believe
there
are
reasonable
pathways
through
it.
16.8
million
dollars
does
sound
like
a
lot
of
money,
depending
on
you
know
where
you're
coming
from
how
you're
looking
at
it,
but
some
examples
just
very
quickly.
There
is
6.2
million
dollars
of
that
16.8
that
you
could
attribute
to
the
phase
three
of
the
teacher
pay
plan.
A
You
know
that
was
a
component
that
was
discussed
in
early
consultant
rounds.
I,
don't
know
if
you
would
necessarily
say
there
was
ever
a
commitment
to
doing
that.
We
don't
have
a
phase
three
for
Public
Safety
and,
as
you
remember,
Public,
Safety
and
classroom
Personnel
were
the
first
ones
out
of
the
gate.
So
Public
Safety
has
taken
a
pause
on
that
now
and
they
are
firmly
on
the
step
system
at
two
and
a
two
and
a
quarter
percent
on
the
school
layout.
A
There
is
a
phase
three,
that's
in
addition
to
keeping
the
teachers
on
the
step
plan,
which
is
something
we're
all
firmly
committed
to.
So
there's
a
five
percent
that
includes
the
step
and
some
of
the
money
from
the
state
and
then
there's
another
one
and
a
half
percent
that
would
be
equivalent
of
that
phase.
Three.
That's
6.2
million
dollars,
I'm,
not
here
picking
winners,
losers,
I'm
only
suggesting
to
you.
That's
a
difference
between
the
budget
that
you're
going
to
receive
when
we
get
to
March
8th
and
what
was
discussed
yesterday.
A
Another
smaller
difference,
but
some
you
know
every
penny
matters,
their
health
care
renewal
assumption
was
plus
seven.
Ours
is
plus
five
I
think
those
things
should
be
in
line.
We
have
the
ability,
through
the
health
care
fund,
as
we
proved
this
year
to
deal
with
larger
renewal
increases
than
what
might
be
in
the
budget.
Five
might
not
be.
The
number
seven
might
not
be
the
number,
but
we
have
saved
within
that
fund
over
the
period
of
last
six
or
seven
years
to
be
in
a
position
to
deal
with
those
items.
A
A
Hopefully,
some
of
those
costs
come
down
electricity,
eggs
whatever
it
might
be,
and
you
don't
need
to
tap
into
all
that
so
if
they
just
left
it
at
15,
which
we've
offered
to
help
with
yeah,
that's
the
pay
plan.
That's
11.2
of
the
16,
just
in
a
couple
of
Strokes
of
the
pin,
so
I
think
there
is
a
reasonable
path
forward.
You
know
we're
going
to
continue
that
work
as
we
always
do
through
the
balance
of
January
and
into
February,
but
I
would
just
again
stress
the
early
early
place
that
we
are
in
the
process.
A
The
last
point
on
here
you
do
get
the
standard
talk
points
of
this
year.
There
was
a
series
of
three
dollar
bills
that
were
included
in
the
in
the
presentation:
they're
very
they're-
very
pretty
Miss
Spillman
who's
coming
up
here
after
me,
actually
designed
those
many
years
ago,
but
this
suggests
that
the
level
of
investment
that
you
all
have
made
in
your
watch
in
the
school
division
has
dipped
from
some
percentage
from
X
to
y.
The
problem
with
that
is,
you
know:
I
can't
choose
what
goes
into
the
dollar
bill.
A
Everything
is
invested
and
shown
a
dollar
from
a
transparency
perspective,
Mr
Hollow,
would
know,
and
last
year
happened
to
be
a
year
where
we
invested
a
lot
of
one-time
money
into
the
capital
side
on
the
on
the
county
CIP,
so
that
all
flows
through
there,
if
you
pull
those
dollars
out
and
make
a
couple
other
small,
similar
adjustments
that
three
percentage
Point
decline
turns
to
about
0.7
or
0.8
percent,
and
we
could
sit
here,
go
back
forth
all
day
long.
My
message
to
you
is:
don't
buy
into
that
stuff
right
off
the
bat.
A
Those
are
very,
very
nuanced
things.
They're
not
Apples
to
Apples,
you
can't
go
every
single
year
and
assume
that
it's
you're
comparing
the
same
things
throughout
time.
You
just
can't
do
it
and
it's
not
anything
they
did,
or
we
did
it's
just
the
way
that
the
business
evolves.
There's
other
things
that
other
revenue
streams
that
get
picked
up
in
that
analysis
and
we're
just
going
to
show
it
all
in
those
sheets.
A
Another
example
that
it
really
didn't
come
across
in
the
presentation
was
the
Investments
that
you
made
in
SRP
that
frees
up
nine
ten
million
dollars
on
the
expense
side.
So
you
know
you
can
see
a
top
line.
Transfer
number
only
goes
up
10
million
dollars,
but
save
10
million
dollars
on
the
expense
side.
Again
that
doesn't
show
up
in
a
dollar
bill.
It
doesn't
show
up
on
a
transfer
number,
but
that's
real
money
that
they
were
able
to
spend
so
last
year.
A
That's
certainly
certainly
was
a
big
part
of
the
conversation
and
again
doesn't
bubble
up
to
the
Top
If
you're,
just
picking
that
up
and
flipping
through
the
slides,
if
you're,
a
reader
at
home
or
you're,
watching
it
on
the
six
o'clock,
news
and
I.
Think
that's
unfortunate,
but
we
will
continue
to
try
to.
You
know
tell
a
whole
story
when
it
comes
to
that
and
be
very
deliberate
in
in
the
math
that
goes
into
those
calculations
with
that
I'm
having
to
take
any
questions
on
the
on
the
school
operating
budget.
C
Just
just
a
couple
of
statements,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
I
know
we
continue
to
fight
is
as
counties
and
schools
is
this
notion
of
unfunded
mandates
from
the
state,
and
so
as
I
looked
at
our
preliminary
list
of
expenditures
for
the
county
coming
up
somewhere
in
this
sausage.
Making
process
of
putting
the
budget
together
is
again
the
pressure
that
is
coming
from
all
fronts
on
the
local
government,
from
areas
in
which
the
state
government
is
just
not
meeting
its
its
duties
and
obligations
to
constitutional
offices
to
our
school
system.
C
You
name
it,
and
so,
when
you
you
take
that
and
then
you
also
take
this
economic
environment.
You
also
take
frankly,
what's
happened
over
the
last
couple
of
years
with
staff
across
the
board
and
how
much
more
expensive
it
is
to
keep
good
people
on
and
and
it's
you
know,
good
people
have
a
good
Market
to
demand
more
pay
across
the
board
right
now,
so
we
we
have
to
balance
all
of
that
out
and
but
I
I
do
see.
C
All
of
it
and
I
know
the
pressure
that
teachers
and
staff
and
administrators
have
been
under
the
last
few
years.
Absolutely
also
know
the
pressure
parents
have
been
under
and
even
folks,
you
know
other
folks,
other
families.
So
you
look
at
all
of
it
and
you
go.
We
have
a
balancing
act
here
and
we
need
to
get
all
the
information
we
need.
A
budget
from
the
state
I
know,
Mr,
Holland
and
I
will
review
this
in
audit
and
finance
as
well
and
I.
C
Don't
know,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
date
that
is,
but
you
know
I
expect
to
do
a
deeper
dive
during
those
meetings
as
we
you
know,
work
through
this
process,
but
I
mean
I'm
trying
to
keep
all
of
this
in
mind
and
I
know.
My
colleagues
are
shaking
their
heads
because
there's
a
lot
of
pressures
on
the
budget
every
year,
but
it
does
seem
like
this
year.
C
A
A
Yeah,
just
I
mean
I
real,
real,
quick.
Second,
you
see
as
many
months
that
are
still
listed
here,
we're
only
in
January
fairly
early
in
the
process.
We
are
just
Winslow
to
your
point.
We
are
on
in
finance,
first
10
days
or
so
of
February
and
we'll
drill
into
a
lot
of
these,
but
I
won't
go
through
all
the
the
pieces
and
parts,
but
again
today
kicks
off
on
our
side.
A
The
budget
season
we'll
be
back
in
front
of
you
in
February
and
March
through
your
community
meetings
through
the
middle
of
March,
the
Republican
at
the
end
of
March
and
then
voting
in
very
early
April
to
put
us
in
motion.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
cards
that
we
played
a
lot
of
information,
Mr
Winslow,
to
your
point
that
we
will
still
learn
between
now
and
then.
A
Hopefully
we
get
some
some
positive
breaks
on
the
state
side
and
with
that
I
think
that's
a
good
segue
to
to
miss
Spillman
to
here's,
to
give
you
an
update
on
what's
going
on
downtown
the
general
assembly.
If
there
are
any
other
questions.