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Description
Southside Speedway Site Update presented at the November 16, 2022 Board of Supervisors meeting.
A
A
Thank
you,
Dr
May.
The
next
agenda
item
I
have
to
update,
is
the
South
Side
Speedway
Side
Up
day
and
again
just
making
a
connection
to
what
you
just
saw
before.
There's
many
good
people
behind
me
that
have
probably
shared
many
stories
to
you
at
the
podium
here
during
some
of
their
citizens.
Time
or
you
know,
via
other
conversations
they
have
so
you
know,
I
didn't
think
about
it.
You
know
when
I
went
to
the
Veterans
Museum
but
again
hearing
some
citizens
speak
here.
You've
heard
many
good
stories
here
and
again.
A
I
encourage
those
same
people
to
share
stories,
so
I
have
a
little
preface
if
you
will
before
I,
introduce
the
the
consultant
that
we
had
hired
to
just
make
some
observations
about
the
existing
track,
but
again,
as
we've
continued
to
hear
the
possibilities
of
South
Side
Speedway
to
have
a
second
life
and
again
I'm
glad
so
many
people
are
here
to
be
a
part
of
this.
We
have
tried
to
position
the
county
for
partners
willing
to
invest
in
a
racetrack.
A
Therefore,
it
was
prudent
for
us
to
determine
the
existing
condition
and
viability
of
the
current
racetrack,
as
we
think
the
next
logical
step
will
be
to
issue
a
formal
request
for
qualifications
RFQ
that
will
hopefully
enable
many
potential
Partners
to
rise
up,
including
some
with
racetrack
proposals,
hopefully
and
another
bit,
hopefully
from
the
previous
unsolicited
proposal.
Partners,
potential
Partners
need
to
know
the
scope
of
what
may
be
needed
at
the
site
to
rehab
or
remediate.
Therefore,
you
know
a
respected
firm
in
the
racing
industry.
A
Motorsports
Consulting
Services
was
hired
at
a
very
nominal
fee,
just
to
visit
the
track
and
make
observations
and
issue
a
report
that
they
did
over
this
past
week
that
we
posted
with
this
agenda
item.
Their
scope
was
very
limited
to
again
just
the
review
of
the
facility
and
make
recommendations
based
upon
observation.
Martin
thank
president
of
MCS
is
here
and
if
you
could
come
to
the
podium
as
I
finish
up,
my
intro
comments
he's
here
to
present
his
findings
and
answer
any
questions
any
and
all
of
you
may
have.
A
He
has
more
than
40
Years
of
professional
Motorsports.
Experience
has
performed
hundreds
of
track
inspections,
designs
and
redesigns
for
Championship,
auto
racing
teams,
cart,
International,
Motorsports
Association
and
the
Sports
Car
Club
of
America.
His
vast
experience
ranges
from
event
promoter
to
insurance
and
risk
management
inspector,
as
well
as
the
facility
and
track
designer.
He
was
a
member
of
the
card,
IndyCar
safety
team
and
spent
5
five
years
as
the
CEO
of
a
race
car
manufacturer
in
order
to
perform
the
more
in-depth
engineering
site.
A
Studies
that
are
probably
warranted
on
the
site
for
determining
how
to
rehab
remediate
or
to
meet
insurance
or
financing
requirements
would
require
a
far
more
extensive
scope
and
a
much
higher
cost
Consulting
contract
that
may
be
incurred
by
potential
Partners
as
part
of
their
due
diligence
in
our
RFQ
process.
There
are
no
actions
requested
of
the
board
tonight
other
than
the
concurrence
for
staff
to
develop
this
RFQ.
A
In
addition
to
best
position,
the
RFQ
for
Success
staff
would
like
to
further
work
with
the
adjoining
property
and
willing
partner,
Chesterfield,
Auto,
Parts
and
finding
them
a
new
location
for
this
well-respected
business.
As
many
as
know
during
southside's
Heyday,
you
head
across
the
street
and
park
on
the
other
side,
so
again
have
it
in
adjoining
property
on
the
same
side,
May
again
lend
to
a
better
proposal
process
for
those
that
are
in
the
audience.
A
We
do
have
a
public
hearing
tonight
on
the
genito
special
Focus
area
plan
and
this
property
is
included
within
this
plan
area
area.
The
plan
itself
does
not
prohibit
or
preclude
a
racetrack
from
arising
on
this
dirt
and
any
citizen
who's
interested
in
commenting
about
this
plan
is
welcome
to
do
so
later
tonight
at
the
public
hearing.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Mr,
Dake
and
again.
I
have
some
closing
remarks
after
he's
done
as
well.
B
B
B
B
I
have
to
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
tracks
around
the
country
that
may
not
be
up
to
current
standards
and
a
lot
of
those
are
excuse
me
quote:
unquote,
grandfathered
by
insurance
companies
and
sanction
bodies.
But
when
you,
when
you're
offline
for
a
couple
of
years,
you
basically
go
back
to
new
track
status,
so
it
would
have
to
be.
You
know,
upgraded
and.
B
So
it
the
surface
is,
is
deteriorating
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
so
there's
a
there's,
a
parking
Paddock
area,
as
it's
called
on
the
inside
of
the
of
the
oval
and
the
barrier
that
surrounds
that
is
perfectly
acceptable
and
and
can
be
used,
as
is
there's
no
nothing
else
required
there.
The
outside
barrier,
however,
is
steel
plate,
and
that
has
not
been
accepted
as
a
race
barrier
for
many
years.
For
the
obvious
reasons
it
breaks
and
then
the
sharp
hands
stick
out
and
can
cause
all
kinds
of
damage
and
injury.
B
So
it's
it's,
and
it
doesn't
it's.
It
doesn't
absorb
energy
very
well,
it
tends
to
deform,
as
you
can
see,
on
these
pictures.
So
that
again,
is
is
something
that
would
need
to
be
replaced
to
to
make
the
facility
usable
the
debris
fence
catch
fence.
However,
whatever
term
you
use
is
not
installed
correctly,
it's
installed
in
a
manner
that
would
not
pass
an
insurance
company
inspection
in
this
day
and
age.
B
It
needs
to
be
installed
correctly
and
some
of
the
posts
are
leaning
either
in
or
out
towards
or
away
from
the
racetrack,
and
that
leads
me
to
believe
that
these
are
there's
some
erosion
going
on
underground,
because
most
of
those
posts
are
set
into
a
concrete
base.
So
it's
it's.
It
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
then
redone
Billboards
on
the
inside
of
the
fence.
B
B
B
B
Again,
the
the
the
seeding
from
the
bleachers
is
I
think
mainly
sold
off
before
you
acquired
the
property,
but
again
it
needs
to
all
of
this
fence.
The
perimeter
fence,
the
the
starter
stand,
the
playground,
the
bleaches
all
need
to
be
cleared
out
and
replaced.
So
again,
none
of
those
are
really
salvageable,
I,
don't
believe,
and
then
so,
that's
obviously
just
an
aerial
shot
of
of
what
it
was
like
a
few
years
ago.
C
B
C
B
C
B
Really
varies,
it
depends
on
where
you
are
in
the
country.
You've
got
to
freeze,
throw
Cycles
up
here.
We
don't
get
those
in
Arizona,
so
you
know
it's
it's.
You
have
they've
run
snow
plowers
around
this
and
we
don't
do
that
in
California.
It's
you
know
so
it's
I.
Can
you
can
get
40
years
if
you've
got
the
right
kind
of
asphalt
and
the
right
kind
of
aggregate
and
it's
put
down
properly
and.
B
D
B
There
are
no
written
directives
for
I,
mean
obvious
reasons.
None
of
the
sanctioning
bodies
write
down.
This
is
how
you
do
it.
None
of
the
insurance
companies
will
write
down.
This
is
how
you
do
it,
so
it's
left
up
to
people
like
me
to
establish
industry
guidelines
that
we
all
you
know
think
is,
along
with
the
insurance
companies
and
essential
bodies
that
based
upon
what
has
happened
in
the
past,
to
design
and
then
build
the
tracks
when.
B
Correct
yeah
I
mean
reputable
insurance
company,
a
Motorsports
insurance
company.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
smaller
trucks.
Are,
you
know,
going
to
companies
that
don't
have
much
Motorsports
experience
and
don't
send
inspectors
out
so
or
if
their
inspectors
do
come
out?
They're
looking
at
the
trip
and
fall
stuff
outside
of
the
racetrack,
as
opposed
to
inside
of
the
track
visitors,
but
there's
a
couple
of
of
large
insurance
companies
that
that
will
always
send
people
out
to
to
do
their
inspections.
In
fact,
I
train
the
most
of
their
inspectors.
C
B
It's
it's
not,
it
doesn't
hold
out.
Well,
it's
it's
very
high
maintenance
and
it's
Sharp.
You
know
if,
in
the
event
that
you
get
a
car
in
the
air
and
it
lands
on
top
of
it,
whatever
way
it
lands
on
top
of
it,
it's
a
sharp
edge
and-
and
it
can
get
damaged
to
the
point
where
it's
welded
and
welded
and
welded
and
and
at
some
point,
especially
on
Lenovo.
When
a
car
comes
into
contact
with
a
wall,
you
want
it
to
slide
around
the
racetrack,
to
dissipate
energy
and
and
just
not
hit
anything.
C
B
You
know
it's
a
great
example:
I
used
to
build
a
for
20
something
years,
I
built
a
indicator
track
on
an
airport
in
Cleveland
every
summer
and
FAA
asphalt,
specifications
which
have
to
be
followed
at
airports
are
designed
for
Wheels
touching
down.
So
all
the
forces
go
into
the
ground
when
you
put
an
Indy
car
out
there
with
a
300
degree,
Fahrenheit
temperature
rear
tire.
All
the
forces
are
going
this
way.
So
it
tears
up
the
asphalt
on
the
runways.
So
that's
that's
what
it
Prospect.
Basically,
what
I
mean.
C
D
B
I,
don't
believe
so
I
mean
it
everything
there
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
so
the
outside
barrier
and
the
and
the
fence
the
catch
fencing
system
I
have
no
idea
how
deep
those
posts
are
buried.
What
they're
buried
in
what
the
ground
is
like
around
them?
How
much
erosion
there's
been
whether
there's
been
golfers
or
whatever
other
Subterranean
Wildlife
may
be
living
there
have
caused
Pockets
it
just.
It
needs
to
be
seriously
evaluated
and
have.
C
B
B
B
If
you
cleared
it,
took
it
all
the
way
down
to
the
ground
and
started
again,
there's
always
something
you're
going
to
find
that
you
don't
know
about
now,
whether
it's
you
know
some
something's
leaked
I
mean
race.
Tracks
are
famous
for
underground
problems
that
you
know,
because
people
there's
a
lot
of
oil
and
fuel
and
other
contaminants
that
are
left
on
the
ground
were
poured
out
of
cars
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
B
D
Members,
Mr
Holland
I,
have
a
question.
Thank
you,
so
you
would
say
you
would
have
to
replace
almost
everything
to
track
itself
and
the
buildings,
as
you
saw
them
overall
now
from
on
scale.
This
may
be
a
tough
question
on
a
scale
from
zero
to
Ten
Ten
being
the
best.
What
will
be
the
condition
of
utilizing
the
track
as
it
is
versus
completely
replacing
it.
B
Yeah
I
mean,
if
you
want,
if
you're
going,
to
have
spectators
and
you've
got
to
have
bathrooms,
you've
got
to
have
concessions.
You've
got
to
have
you
know
places
for
them
to
sit.
So
that's
a
that's
a
depending
upon
how
many
people
you
think
you're
going
to
get
that
determines
how
many
breaches
you
build.
What
size
buildings,
how
many
buildings,
how
many
bathrooms,
how
many
concession
areas
you
need
ticket
booths
I
mean
most
of
those
buildings
that
were
out
there.
They
had
a
purpose.
They
were
there
for
specific
reasons.
B
Yeah
I
mean
you
could
spend
a
lot
of
money
digging
into
evaluating.
What's
underneath,
you
know
the
post
for
the
cash
fencing
or
the
the
asphalt
surface?
What
happens
when
you
get
cracks
that
wide
with
asphalt
and
you
drive
across
them
really
fast?
Is
that
the
tires
are
running
they
get
hot,
they
get
sticky
they're
supposed
to
they
catch
the
edge
of
that
crack
start
chipping
away
at
it.
Not
only
does
the
crack
get
bigger,
it
throws
chunks
of
asphalt.
Excuse
me,
the
other
guy
driving
behind
you.
C
E
So
I
think
in
your
report
you
said
you
didn't
feel
like
you
could
be
milled
down
in
a
new
track
be
laid
on
the
subsurface,
because
you
were
concerned
that
it
would
be
too
bumpy
several
years
down
the
road.
Essentially
right,
that's
correct,
I
think
that's
actually
how
that
track
ran
for
years.
Is
that
a
insurance
issue,
or
is
that
a
preference
in
the
person
that
would
be
putting
the
track
together.
B
Well,
it's
going
to
deteriorate,
it
can't
go
anywhere
but
but
get
worse.
I
I
can
give
you
an
example.
So
a
2000,
2002
I
redesigned
and
resurfaced
the
racetrack
in
Mexico
City
that
they
actually
ran
a
Formula
One
race
on
last
weekend
and
that
they
have
a
kilometer,
almost
a
kilometer
long
straight
away
and
the
owners
is
the
state
and
the
managers
decided
that
they
didn't
want
to
replace
the
racing
surface.
That
was
there
that
hadn't
been
used
for
20
years.
B
So
there
was
a
lot
of
cracks
and
bumps
in
that
in
that
surface,
so
they
just
took
the
top
four
inches
off
and
put
a
new
four
inches
of
asphalt
back
on
and
it
was
great
for
about
a
month
and
then
they
didn't
regrade
or
adjust
the
surface
of
the
subsurface.
So
you
get
what
you
call
we
call
mirroring
so
it
whatever
the
condition
of
the
subsurface
is
in
today.
If
you
don't
address
that,
it
will
eventually
come
back
onto
your
new
asphalt
and
you'll
have
to
start
again.
B
E
Imagine
so
you
have
some
concern
about
the
subsurface,
but
you
without
taking
the
track
up.
You
don't
know
for
sure
what
this
state
of
the
subsurfaces
you
just
believe
that
the
asphalt
itself
would
need
to
be
milled
down
completely
to
to
the
subsurface,
so
the
subsurface
could
be
checked
and
corrected
or
replaced.
That's
your
that.
A
In
some
closing
comments
for
me
and
if
it
triggers
more
questions
for
for
Mr
take,
then
that's
fine,
but
again,
as
we
noted
previously,
you
know
we're
going
to
do
our
best
with
your
concurrence
to
draft
a
request
for
qualifications.
The
request
you
know
is
going
to
be
clear.
You
know
that
if
someone
has
a
racetrack
concept
idea
some
of
the
potential
bidders
of
it
want
to
come
out
to
the
track
and
and
do
some
testing
engineering
testing
looking
at
the
subsurface,
we
will
Avail.
You
know
people
to
do
that.
A
We
just
again,
we
just
try
to
hire
somebody
to
make
observational
points
to
bring
us
to
this
point
for
tonight.
I
know
that
the
people
who
did
the
unsolicited
proposal
they
they
probably
did
not
do
some
of
the
subsurface
testing
either
so
again
that
they
themselves
may
also
want
to
venture
into
that.
So
there
is
again
no
actions
for
you
tonight
and
it's
just
to
make
it
clear.
A
You
know
whatever
process
we
go
through
if
there
is
a
rising
potential
partner
that
arises
that
that
starts
and
ends
with
you
as
far
as
the
next
steps
in
further
working
with
them
all
we'd
want
to
try
and
to
do
is
position
this
process
to
get
as
many
good
valid
proposals.
I
would
imagine
you
know.
Good
partners
would
would
try
and
determine
what
their
own
insurance
companies
or
or
financing
institutions
would
want
out
of
this
site,
and
they
themselves
may
be
visiting
as
part
of
this
process,
and
we
would
Avail
them
as
well
sure.