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This session provides much needed background to help us understand why it is NECASSARY to amend the Vermont Constitution to prohibit slavery in all forms. We’ll provide details on the legislative, public and executive processes that have taken place to bring us to this important stage of the process of constitutionally prohibiting slavery in all forms in the State of Vermont.
9/22/2022
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A
Of
course,
we
didn't
call
it
systemic
racism
when
we
started
to
work,
because,
because
I
didn't
really
know
what
that
was
and
I
was,
you
know
what
we
were
doing
was
is
we
were?
We
were
addressing
racial
disparities
in
the
criminal
justice
system
initially,
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that
a
little
bit
later.
Why
is
this
important?
The
reason
why
it's
important
is
what
I'm
doing
is
I'm
premising
the
work,
because
it's
so
important
to
make
those
connections.
A
As
far
as
how
we
found
ourselves
where
we
are
fast
forward
to
the
racial
Justice,
Alliance
and
yes,
I
will
fill
in
the
blank
with
some
of
that
work
in
a
little
while,
but
fast
forward
to
the
racial
Justice
Alliance.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
is
to
create
that
sustainable
power
and
ensure
that
there's
agency
and
provide
security
for
American
descendants
of
slavery
while
embracing
their
their
history
and
preserving
their
culture.
A
The
the
platform
was
act,
acknowledge,
create
and
transform.
So
as
a
part
of
that
platform,
it
was
a
a
pretty
good
size
list
of
initiatives,
legislative
agenda-
and
so
this
is
PR2-
is
a
part
of
it.
One
moment
please
enter
like
I
told
you
we're
at
the
Richard
Kim
Center,
like
I,
told
you
and
we've
got
we're
inviting
guests
in
and
so
for
us.
So
we
have
Youssef
just
came
in
and
we
were
for
some
odd
reason.
A
I
thought
we
were
all
zoomed
tonight,
but
anybody
who
comes
in
the
door
we're
gonna,
let
them
in
the
door
I
just
wanted
to.
You
know
just
make
you
aware,
in
addition
to
platforms
and
initiatives.
Oh,
let
me
just
pause
there.
The
legislative
agenda
for
the
previous
biennium
was
called
change.
Vermont
and
it
was,
you
know,
pretty
I
think
in
some
ways
it
was
kind
of
challenging
because
there's
there
is
this
sentiment
that
you
know
here
in
Vermont.
A
We
just
never
want
to
change,
but
I
think
the
more
we
dig
into
this
work
and
the
more
that
we
Vision
you
know
who
we
are
as
a
state
and
who
we
are
as
a
people
and
where
we're
going
politically,
economically
spiritually
the
whole
nine
yards.
We
do
understand
that,
of
course,
we
need
to
always
be
changing.
A
The
funny
thing
about
that
is.
Is
we
had
that
that
that
Old,
Red,
Barn
and
and
on
the
side
of
it,
it
said,
sadly
take
back
Vermont
and
what
we
did
is
we
crossed
out
to
take
back
and
we
put
change
over
it
in
a
same
font.
So
it
drew
attention
to
say
the
least
and
that
that
was
when
we
started
the
the
the
Constitutional
Amendment,
which
was
in
2019
and
you'll,
see
in
a
little
bit
that
this
thing's
been
going
on
for
nearly
four
years.
A
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
before
we
get
into
too
deeply
into.
This
is
I
want
to
talk
about
systemic
racism,
because
what
we
keep
saying
it
and
nobody
seems
to
be
able
to
Define
it
so
well,
we
defined
it.
So
what
we
did
is
we
in
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing.
This
is
we've
all
of
us
within
the
alliance.
All
everybody
most.
A
Everyone
owns
staff
because
we
just
brought
someone
on
recently
so
I,
don't
I
want
to
be
accurate
in
what
I'm
saying,
but
most
All
of
Us
carry
a
book
around
with
us,
and
it's
called
racist
America
Roots
current
realities
future
reparations.
Despite
this
little
white
guy
out
of
Texas,
his
name
is
Joe
Fagan
and
Kimberly.
Ducey
helped
him
with
this
book.
He's
got
about
maybe
58
other
books
that
he's
written
and
we
pulled
a
definition,
and
this
this
is
one.
A
That's
ongoing,
that's
documented
on
our
website,
and
that
is
also
available
in
various
forms
across
many
many
other
venues,
and
so
we
see
more
and
more
today
that
there
are
racial
disparities
that
are
adverse
impacting
black
folks
across
all
of
our
social
determinants:
housing,
education,
employment,
Health,
Services
access,
Economic,
Development,
Transportation,
the
so-called
criminal
justice
system,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on,
and
it's
well
documented
and
it's
consistent
and
it's
persistent
and
it's
simultaneous
and
it's
Insidious.
So
these
are.
A
This
the
reason
why
this
conversation
is
really
important
is
because
we
there
is
a
lexicon
people
established
where
we
refer
to
systemic
racism
as
a
legacy
of
the
institution
of
slavery
and
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
have
a
hard
time
making
that
connection,
but
we
believe
it's
well
established,
and
we
also
believe
that
maybe
there's
some
folks
who
will
never
come
to
an
understanding
that
there
is
a
connection
between
slavery
and
what
we
call
the
this
systemic
racism
or
the
legacy
of
slavery.
But
this
is
where
we're
premised.
A
This
is
the
work
that
we're.
This
is
how
we
premise
the
work
that
we're
doing
in,
and
it's
actually
how
we
discovered
the
Constitution
in
its
current
state,
because
our
work,
which
is
which
is
lengthy,
led
us
to
the
Constitution
we
became
concerned
about
some
of
the
language
in
the
Constitution
I,
also
want
to
mention
the
emotion-laden
racist,
framing
racist,
framing,
created
by
whites,
to
maintain
and
rationalize
privilege
and
power.
A
Now
we
start
to
get
into
overt
racism,
because
that
takes
an
individual,
discriminatory
actions,
and
what
you
see
from
this
definition
is
is
that
overt
racism
is
actually
born
out
of
systemic
racism,
so
very
difficult
to
have
a
conversation
these
days,
many
days
about
systemic
racism
without
a
person
trying
to
LEAP
to
the
end
of
the
conversation
and
declare
that
they
are
not
a
racist.
Well,
the
conversation
surrounding
systemic
racism
has
nothing
to
do
with
whether
anybody
is
a
racist.
A
It
has
more
to
do
with
the
remnants,
the
legacy
of
slavery
and
the
ongoing
impact
that
it
has
on
black
and
brown
folks
in
America
today,
so
I
just
wanted
frame
that
up
if
it
exists
anywhere,
it
exists
everywhere.
By
its
nature,
it's
Insidious.
It
is
auto
correcting
self-correcting,
it
is
self-healing
it
morphs
when
it's
identified,
so
this
is
something
that
that
we
as
a
nation
have
dealt
with
throughout
the
entire
history
of
this
nation.
A
This
this
this
this
thing
that
we
call
systemic
racism,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
didn't
get
away
without
me.
Sharing
that
with
you
today,
I
don't
feel
special,
because
everybody
who
usually
gets
on
with
us
has
the
opportunity
to
hear
some
of
those.
Some
of
that
parts
of
that
definition
now
I
want
to
talk
about
before
I
go
through
this
slide,
I
think
what
I'm,
what
I
might
want
to
do
is
I
I.
A
Think
what
I
want
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
skip
over
some
of
this
presentation
and
share
with
you
a
little
bit
about
act
that
legislative
agenda
that
I
told
you
about
a
little
while
ago,
now
keep
in
mind
that,
while
all
of
this
is
going
on,
there's
there's
Community
engagement
and
support
happening.
There's
Outreach
and
education
happening.
There's
cultural
empowerment
happening,
but
this
right
here,
what
we're
talking
about
is
this
platforms
and
initiatives
in
this
platform.
This
this
platform
is
a
Statewide
platform.
A
There
is
also
a
city-wide
platform
that
we've
introduced
here
called
operation
Phoenix
rise
in
the
City
of
Burlington.
We
may
go
over
a
piece
of
that
perhaps
but
I
just
I
think
this
is
all
really
really
important
because
it
premises
the
work
that
we're
talking
about
it's
this
stuff.
A
lot
of
this
stuff
predates
PR2
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
We
were
work
working
on
things
that
that
that's
that
are
in
front
of
you
right
now
that
we
were
working
on
before
we
started
to
work
a
PR2.
A
So
when
we
went
into
this
last
legislative
session,
which
was
two
years
ago,
the
acknowledged
create
transform
legislative
agenda.
Yes,
PR2
was
already
on
that
agenda.
Why?
The
reason?
Why
is
because
it
takes
two
biennium
to
pass
a
constitutional
amendment,
so
keep
in
mind
the
legislature,
the
Senate,
as
well
as
the
house,
would
happen
in
2019
and
2020
in
2019
and
2020.
This
is
the
21
and
22
legislative
agenda
that
you're
looking
at
now,
but
in
2019
and
2020.
A
What
happened
is
is
PR2
was
introduced
to
the
Senate,
along
with
our
change
Vermont
legislative
agenda.
Some
of
which
some
of
these
items
were
on
it
as
well,
because
they
carried
over
it
came
out
of
the
house.
The
city
government
operations
committee
was
passed
almost
unanimously
in
the
senate
in
2019,
with
the
exception
of
one
vote.
A
A
Powerpoint
today
is
this
component
here
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
the
the
Constitutional
Amendment
as
I
told
you
before
and
I
know
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
patience
and
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
perseverance
just
to
kind
of
sit
through
this
little
piece.
That
goes
on
the
front
end
because
everybody
just
wants
the
details:
everybody's
like
well
What's,
it
gonna
do
or
why
are
we
amending
the
Constitution
I
thought
we
were
the
first
state
to
abolish
slavery
or
all
of
those
conversations.
A
Okay,
all
I'm
asking
right
now
is
is
just
give
me
a
little
latitude
and
let
me
explain
to
you
how
we
got
where
we
are
okay,
fair
enough
so
and
then
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
pause.
Instead
of
talking
at
you
before
we
get
into
the
Constitutional
Amendment,
you
know
we
can
have
a
little
conversation
and
we
can
move
a
little
bit
further.
But
this
this
is
the
101..
This
is
kind
of
you
know
this.
A
This
is
the
best
way
that
I
can
figure
out
how
we
as
an
organization,
because
we
owe
it
to
you.
We
owe
it
to
the
state
we're
not
broadcasting
today,
because
we
had
some
difficulty
we'll
be
back
on
Saturday.
We
have
another
engagement
on
Tuesday.
We
have
another
engagement
on
Wednesday
I,
think
the
All
Souls
church
on
Saturday,
the
First
Congregational
Church
on
Tuesday,
the
First
Baptist
Church
on
Wednesday,
the
the
the
library
here
in
Burlington
on
Thursday
I
will
be
broadcasting
from
there.
A
So
we're
going
to
be
at
it.
We're
going
to
be
after
this
and
we're
going
to
be
explaining
this
in
in
a
similar
way,
every
step
of
the
way
so
I,
wanna,
I
wanna,
just
bring
your
attention
to
the
dates
here,
because
in
2017
there
was
no
PR2.
Why?
Because
you
can't
amend
the
Constitution
in
2017.,
did
we
know
that
you
did
that
the
language
existed
in
2017?
Yes,
we
knew,
but
it
was
2015
was
the
was
the
time
that
you
could
have
amended
the
Constitution
before
this.
Why?
A
Because
the
Constitution
says
that
you
can
only
amend
it
every
four
years.
So
what
you
see
is
is
that
we
just
we
discovered
this
in
2015,
we're
a
little
bit
late
to
the
party
and
nobody
really
understood
it
or
even
hardly
believed
it,
but
it
would.
What
would
happen
is
is
here
in
2017
we
would
come
with
a
legislative
agenda
which
would
be
our
first
legislative
agenda,
and
this
is
as
Justice
for
All
In
2017..
What
were
we
coming
with
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
this
whole
list,
so
be
patient
with
me.
A
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
in
2017
what
we
discovered
is-
and
this
is
going
to
shock
an
appall
some
of
you,
because
we
just
saw
recently
a
report
by
our
our
state
auditor,
Mr
Doug
Hoffer-
that
that
really
speaks
to
exactly
what
I'm
getting
ready
to
tell
you
is.
Can
you
believe
that
some
of
the
police
weren't
doing
their
training?
A
Can
you
believe
that
the
fear
and
impartial
policing
policy
wasn't
being
properly
implemented
during
that
time
yeah?
So
it's
like
deja
vu
all
over
again.
So
what
was
happening
during
that
time
is.
Is
we
wanted
to
create
an
oversight
apparatus
for
the
entire
Criminal
Justice
System?
That's
Title,
20,
2366
and
Title
20
2358,
that's
that
would
include
race
data
collection
policy
and
training.
So
what
what
we
asked
for
was
an
oversight
apparatus.
What
we
got
was
an
advisory
apparatus,
so
that
was
acts
54
now.
A
What
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
very,
very
important,
because
this
right
here
is
this:
what
this
is,
what
pivots
everything
everything
is?
Is
that
what
we
discovered
is
as
a
re,
there
was
a
secondary
portion
to
that
policy.
The
secondary
portion
was
the
attorney
generals
in
the
human
rights
commission's
task
force
on
disparities
in
all
systems
of
state
government.
A
A
This
is,
and
if
you
want
to
find
this
you're
in
front
of
your
computer,
I
know
you
are
just
go
ahead
and
Google
acts,
54
attorney,
generals
and
human
rights
commissions
task
force
all
systems,
and
you
you
will
be
able
to
pull
that
report
up
and
you'll
be
able
to
view
it
for
yourself.
Why
is
that
so
critical,
because
it
validated
this
assertion
that
the
systemic
racism
was
a
thing
as
we
were
moving
through
this
thing,
as
we
continued
to
try
to
figure
this
whole
thing
about
the
institution
of
slavery.
A
The
next
year
we'd
go
on
to
implement
the
the
racial
Equity
executive
director
panel.
That
was
our
legislative
agenda.
That's
in
what
we
sought
to
do
is
is
to
create
that
and
that
panel
would
be
independent
from
the
state
government
of
Vermont.
It
is
not
we
sought
Independence.
What
we
got
is
is
that
the
governor
said
no
she's
going
to
report
to
me.
So
that's
why
sutana
Davis
reports
to
the
governor
today?
A
Unfortunately,
she
really
doesn't
even
report
directly
to
the
governor,
because
it
was
his
discretion
to
place
her
under
the
agency
of
Administration.
It
was
formerly
Susanna,
Susanna
young
who's,
now
our
attorney
general,
but
that
that
bill
was
actually
vetoed
initially
and
we
had
to
compromise
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
I
will
just
flag
that
HR
25
is
incredibly
important
because
H.R
25
introduced
by
representative
China
in
2018.
A
Now
at
this
time
we
had
already
watched
the
state
of
Colorado
attempt
to
amend
their
constitution
to
abolish
slavery
and
fail,
and
then
they
tried
again-
and
this
would
be
the
year
in
which
they'd
done
so
very
important
and
I'm
going
to
pause
right
after
this
is,
is
that
what
we
sought
to
do
is
because
we
knew
that
the
constitution
could
be
amended
in
2019.
now
watch
this
only
the
Senate
can
can
initiate
a
constitutional
amendment,
only
the
Senate
and
only
every
four
years.
So,
thank
you.
So
what
we
knew
is
in
2018.
A
If
we
were
to
do
anything,
we
could
send
up
a
smoke
signal.
So
what
we
did
is
in
the
house.
We
said
how
about
if
you,
how
about,
if
you
provide
a
introduce
a
resolution
house,
introduced
a
resolution
urging
next
year's
Senate
to
amend
the
Constitution,
so
this
is
very,
very
little
known
and
part
of
it
and
I'm,
not
picking
on
NBC
5.
A
I'm
glad
you're
here,
but
part
of
the
reason
why
that
is
is
because
it's
not
being
covered.
These
things
are
not
being
covered
in
the
press.
This
is
why
we
are
less
than
seven
weeks
out
and
there's
so
little
information
out
on
this,
because
this
is
not
sexy.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
really
it's.
It's
really
not
even
comfortable.
Quite
frankly,
and
nobody
really.
A
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
it's
so
important
that
our
partners,
the
Vermont
Interfaith
action
in
the
70
congregations
that
we're
working
with
us
to
include
one
of
them
representing
16
000
people
across
the
state,
is
so
important
because
we
knew
we
anticipated
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
challenge
getting
the
word
out.
So
anyway,
back
to
this,
this
HR
25.
We
did
in
fact-
and
this
is
a
part
of
our
history
of
Vermont
and
no
one
can
ever
take
this
away
from
us.
A
There
was
a
a
resolution,
a
house
resolution
in
2018
that
was
introduced
to
that
urged
the
2019
Senate
now
mind
you.
We
were
kind
of
in
a
similar
situation
that
we're
in
right
now
even
year.
What
does
the
even
year
mean
in
the
in
the
state
of
Vermont
it's
an
election
year,
then
it
doesn't
make
any
difference
which
year
it
is
if
it's
an
even
year
it's
an
election
year,
and
what
that
means
is
every
single
legislator
is
up,
for.
A
Let
is
up
for
a
re-election
in
every
single
Statewide
official
is
up
for
re-election,
so
we
knew
that
the
the
reason
why
I
bring
that
point
up
is
because
they
were
urging
a
body
that
did
not
exist
to
take
up
the
a
constitutional
amendment
the
following
year.
We
did
the
same
thing
in
the
Senate.
The
pro
tem
at
the
time
was
Tim
Ash.
A
He
refused
to
even
allow
it
to
be
introduced,
but
it
was
introduced
in
in
the
house,
but
it
didn't
go
anywhere
because
Sarah
Copeland
Hodges
allowed
it
to
hang
on
the
wall
and
die.
That's
the
story.
You
got
it
for
me,
so
so
we
were
at
this
thing
already,
even
before
2019..
The
reason
why
I'm,
showing
you
this
slide
here
is
just
to
let
you
understand
that
there
were
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
we
were
doing
to
include
the
and
I
think
that
should
be
for
478.
The
reparations
bill
should
be.
A
It
was
actually
478
that
year.
Well,
that's
I'm!
Sorry,
this
is
that's
actually
I
think
it
might
be
alluding
to
this
year.
Just
suffice
it
to
say:
we've
had
a
reparations
bill
on
the
house
in
the
house
for
the
last
four
years,
so
we
started
that
this
in
17..
We
knew
it
wasn't
going
to
go
anywhere
in
19,
but
we
brought
it
back
anyway,
but
you
see
the
Health
Equity
bill,
which
you
just
saw
passed
this
year.
You
see
last
year.
Rather
you
see
the
resolution.
A
Public
Health
Emergency
that
just
passed
last
year,
joint
resolution
and
others
and
there's
also
some
Burlington
work,
and
we
didn't
date
these,
but
all
of
this
stuff
is
converging
on
the
conversation
of
systemic
racism
and
now
this
sets
us
up
to
have
a
conversation
of
why
the
Constitution,
because
really
what
we're
talking
about
is.
Is
the
institution
forget
about
what
the
Constitution
says?
Let's
just
say,
hypothetically
the
Constitution
said
that
slavery
was
permitted.
A
Just
humor
me,
let's
just
say,
hypothetically
our
constitution
in
Vermont
says
that
slavery
existed
or
or
is
permitted
in
any
way
connecting
all
of
the
dots
that
I
just
gave
you
and
I'll
just
open
it
up
right
now
and
stop
screen
sharing
for
any
form
of
conversation.
If,
if
anybody
wants
to
but
given
the
conversation
that
I
just
gave
you
or
the
background
that
I
just
gave
you
is
it
becoming
it,
maybe
it's
becoming
increasingly
clear
that
we
were
what
we.
A
What
we're
doing
here
is
is
we're
connecting
dots,
because
we
believe
that
the
institution
of
slavery
is
reprehensible
and
I.
Think
everybody
on
this
call
would
probably
agree
with
that.
If
you
do
just
nod
your
head,
if
you
don't,
then
get
off
no
I'm
just
kidding
so
it
so
there
there
is
so
there
is.
There
is
a
common
agreement
that
it
is
that
it
is
a
crime
against
humanity,
the
institution
of
slavery.
We
I
think
we
all
understand
that
it
is
an
abomination.
A
It
has
created
so
much
pain,
so
much
distrust
so
much
anguish.
And
what
we
understand
here,
as
we
connect
the
dots
and
we
look
at
its
Legacy,
that
it
is
sustained
itself
and
it
continues
to
create
racial
just
across
a
political
and
economic
divides
across
racial
lines,
so
anything
to
do
with
the
institution
of
slavery.
A
A
Have
that
conversation
with
you
in
fact,
I'm
not
even
interested,
quite
frankly
in
having
a
conversation
with
a
bunch
of
persuadables,
because
I
believe
in
my
heart
and
and
I've
overestimated
this
state
before,
and
it
was
a
huge
slap
in
the
face
when
I
saw
how
cares
act
and
arpa
funding
was
distributed,
but
that's
a
whole
other
conversation,
because
this
is
a
political
and
economic
divide
along
racial
lines.
We'll
come
back
to
that,
but
the
point
I'm
really
getting
after
is
simply
that
we
do
see
again.
A
You
know
we
talked
about
the
ACT,
54
attorney
generals
and
human
rights
commission's
report.
We
see
all
of
the
data
on
our
website.
We
understand
the
our
history
of
a
Nation.
We
know
what
the
Civil
War
was
fought
for.
We
know
that
there
was
no
constitutional
convention
that
happened
after
it.
We
understand
the
impacts
of
the
13th
14th
and
the
15th
amendments
and
what
they
tried
to
do
and
failed
to
do.
A
We
understand
all
of
the
Civil
Rights
Acts
and
what
they
tried
to
do
and
failed
to
do,
but
yet
we
are
here
and
we're
in
2022
Post
January
6
2021,
where
there
were
Confederate
flags
flying
in
our
state
house
and
we're
still
having
a
conversation
about
this
thing
that
tore
the
nation.
Apart
about
this
thing,
where
the
last
time
we
as
a
nation
tried
to
abolish
it,
it
caused
a
secession
slavery.
A
So
this
is
an
important
conversation.
This
is
an
important
conversation
and
it's
important
for
us
to
to
talk
this
thing
out
and
say
well.
What
are
we
doing
here
and
so
I
I
submit
to
you
I
posit
that
if
there
is
any
language
that
in
any
way
permits
slavery
in
our
constitution,
we
ought
to
do
something
about
it.
C
Actually,
if
you
watched
Evolution
today,
the
first
episode
says
slavery
is
what
is
the
slave
match?
Slavery
is
still
alive
matter
of
fact
it
was
never
abolished
and
the
whole
except
part
he's
trying
to
say
the
professor
that
they
had
that
it's
not
going
to
change
anything.
It's
just
language
and
obviously
it
has
to
be
a
white
man.
You
can
say
that,
because
you
know
it's
just
so
real
here,
look
at
the
way
we
live
in
vermontes.
Look.
The
black
Vermont
is
how
it's
just
so
lost.
C
We
are
because
we
have
never
been
able
to
fully
be
ourselves
express
ourselves
and
it's
everybody's
issue,
I
always
say
to
the
light-skinned
girls.
You
would
be
required
to
give
your
papers
if
you
were
on
a
plantation,
so
I,
don't
know
why
you
know
it's
your
problem
too,
to
if
you
watch
Sam
Patel
you'll
see
that
it
was
the
the
white
women's
issues
too.
So
it's
everyone's
issues
because
we're
all
trying
to
be
citizens
and
we're
trying
to
We
the
People.
Okay,
so
I'm
with
you
brother
and
it's
real
out
here.
C
A
A
All
of
the
hurdles
that
we've
that
we've
that
we've
traversed
to
get
to
the
point
to
where
we
are
today,
and
also
you
know
just
how
short
the
path
is
to
lead
us
to
a
point
to
where
we've
actually
accomplished
what
it
is
that
we
sought
out
to
do.
But
as
far
as
what
you've
seen
and
heard
so
far,
is
there
a
general
awareness
of
some
of
this
stuff
Adrian?
A
D
I
was
not,
but
that's
again
like
that's
why
I
said
I'm,
that's
why
I'm
here
I
want
to
learn
more
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
articulate
this
correctly
to
people.
So
they
understand
the
significance
of
why
something
like
this
needs
to
happen
in
November
because,
like
you
said
too,
like
there
isn't
a
lot
of
coverage
on
this,
and
this
is
something
that's
like
like
extremely
important
to
understand
why
it's
not
more
of
a
more
prevalent
in
our
newscast,
especially
when
this
is
something
that
people
are
going
to
be
voting
on.
A
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
your
candor
and
just
you
showing
up
with
your
whole
heart.
That's
that's
really
important
and
I
think
jaina
just
tying
into
the
work
that
you're
doing
nationally
and
I
know.
There's
you
know,
there's
some
prison.
Labor
I
said
it
I
said
it
prison
labor.
A
lot
of
people
are
saying
that
and
I
don't
really
use
use
that
term
a
lot,
but
I
know
that
that
is.
Some
of
this
is
tying
into
your
work.
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
what
prompted
you
to
show
up.
E
Yeah
I
appreciate
you
asking
so
I
mostly
am
here
like
as
an
interested
citizen,
because
just
with
what's
been
going
on
around
the
country,
I
feel
like
if
slavery,
even
a
loophole
is
still
on
our
Amendment.
Things
are
getting
worse
in
our
countries,
so
I
fear
like
what
that
could
mean
for
the
future
like.
If
we
have
conservatives
here,
will
they
just
get
rid
of
that
loophole
and
then
we're
stuck
in
something
really
dark.
E
So
I
think
it's
important
I
think
this
is
really
preemptive
works
for
something
that,
like
let's
pray
to
God,
that
it
doesn't
get
that
bad
again.
But
I
was
down
in
Alabama
and
I
learned
that
they're
trying
to
take
back
voting
rights
for
black
folks,
so
that
just
like
makes
me
think,
like
wow
they're,
hiding
agendas.
So
I
just
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
to
combat
the
conservative
agenda.
A
A
A
So
you
know
I
mean
folks
have
folks
have
asked
me.
They're,
like
you
know,
have
you
you
know.
Have
you
considered
you
know
getting
out
of
here?
You
know
and
what
do
you
you
know
it's?
You
know
we
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and-
and
you
know
do
you
have
plans
you
know,
do
you
have
plans
to
to
leave
and
you
know
as
if
somehow
or
another
I'm
gonna,
let
somebody
run
me
out
of
a
state
or
something
I.
Don't
I,
don't
really
I.
A
A
I've
ever
lived
in
my
life
and
the
amount
of
time
that
I've
been
here
is
probably
equivalent
to
maybe
six
or
seven
of
the
locations
that
I've
been
to
combined
since
I've,
been
here
13
years,
so
which
means
which
what
I'm
really
getting
at
is
just
that
I'm
old.
But
the
point
is:
is
that
you
know
the
work
that
we're
doing
it's
just
to
make
in
in
my
heart
is
to
make
something
good
better.
A
A
A
C
A
and
I
introduced
it
to
our
team
and
we
were
growing
the
jfa
at
the
time
and
by
the
time
we
got
to
the
point
of
introducing
acts.
54,
which
was
I
forget
what
the
bill
was,
but
at
any
rate
we
had
developed
a
consensus
that
this
is
something
that
we
wanted
to
come
back
after,
but
a
lot
of
things
happened
and
I've
talked
to
hundreds.
Hundreds,
hundreds
of
people
across
the
state
I
have
folks
within
our
organization.
A
Folks,
within
our
partner
organizations,
we
have
the
abolish
slavery
national
network,
who
are
Max
parthus.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
Partners
at
a
national
level,
we
have
faith
in
action
Partners
at
a
national
level,
Vermont
Interfaith
action
Partners
at
a
Statewide
level
and
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
having
a
lot
of
conversation.
Focus
groups
have
been
conducted
so
where
we're
at
right
now
is
we're
having
we're
we're
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
and
I.
Think
I
saw
somebody
fall
off,
I,
don't
know
who
fell
off
who'd,
we
lose.
A
Happened
in
2016,
and
you
can
find
this
on
Orca
media
as
well
as
CCTV.
We
interviewed
all
candidates
for
the
Senate
of
Washington
County
and
Chittenden
County.
That
would
include
folks
like
Debbie
Ingram,
who
had
no
clue
that
it
that
it
was
even
in
the
Constitution
at
the
time,
and
we
laugh
about
that
Debbie's,
a
really
good
friend
of
mine
that
would
include
Tim
Ash.
That
would
include
Jenny
loins
loins.
That
would
include
folks,
like
Ann
Cummings
at
the
time,
Ashley,
Hill
and
and
others
who
were
yeah.
A
You
look
back
and
see
who
historically
was
running
for
Senate
in
Washington,
so
I
won't
get
into
that.
Nobody
knew
this
language
existed
in
the
Constitution.
Nobody
knew
I
was
I,
remember
walking
down
I
used
to
live
in
Montpelier,
walking
down
the
street
with
gym
condos
Jim
did
you
know
no
way
these
people
took
an
oath
to
this
constitution?
This
is
the
document
where
every
every
legislative
agenda
is
measured
by
the
litmus
test
of
this
constitution.
A
In
every
argument
of
any
of
the
constitutionality
of
any
statute
is
measured
at
the
ultimately
at
the
Supreme
Court
against
this
document.
The
constitution
in
every
elected
official,
every
officer,
every
military
official
everybody
takes
an
oath
to
this
constitution.
So
that's
how
consequential
the
language
in
the
constitution
is
so
I
didn't
come
to
build
this
case
too
heavily.
But
I
just
wanted
to
remind
you.
Whenever
you
hear
anybody
tell
you
that
the
constitution
is
a
historical
document
and
at
somehow
or
another
we
just.
A
We
can
just
leave
language
in
this
constitution
because
we
can
just
we
can
use
this
constitution
as
some
kind
of
storage
apparatus
for
a
some
kind
of
Relic,
or
maybe
some
kind
of
to
memorialize.
Some
concept
I
want
you
to
categorically
reject
that,
because
the
Constitution
is
what
we
live
by.
It's
it's.
What
it's!
What
it
governs
every
statute,
every
rule,
every
institution,
everything
that
this
that
this
state
represents.
So
the
language
in
the
constitution
is
very,
very
important.
A
C
A
A
Fine,
so
there
is
a
there's,
a
track
record.
We
went
through
the
I
personally
went
to
the
Constitution,
the
constant,
the
the
platform
convention
and
presented
this
because
at
the
time
I
was
the
affirmative
actions.
Chair
of
the
Vermont
Democratic
party
at
that
time,
and
the
platform
of
the
Vermont
Democratic
party
was
changed
and
did
reflect
their
desire
to
amend
the
Constitution
to
abolish
slavery
and
that
held
in
in
2018,
and
it
was
only
in
2020
that
they
withdrew
it.
A
So
if
I
was
a
reporter,
I
would
ask
the
Vermont
Democratic
party
why
they
withdrew
that
in
the
middle
of
the
Constitutional
process,
because
it
hadn't
finished
yet
but
I'm
not
a
reporter,
but
the
point
I'm
making
is
is
there's
there's
so
many
other
things
that
we
did.
There's
the
racial
Justice
Reform
Coalition.
We
went
to
Senate
leadership
to
urge
them,
as
I
told
you
before,
to
amend
the
Constitution
of
next
year.
Tim
Ash
refused
to
do
so.
I
already
told
you
what
happened
in
the
house,
H.R
25.
A
That
did
happen
Okay
and
then,
of
course,
I
just
told
you
that
the
party
reaffirmed
its
position
on
its
platform
in
2018
and
there's
more
because
what
we
did
is
is
that
we
put
forward
language
for
a
proposal
for
the
Constitutional
amendment
in
2000
in
in
in
18.
But
did
you
know
that
the
league
of
cities
and
towns
251
towns,
represented
unanimously,
passed
the
resolution
expressing
their
desire
that
the
Constitution
be
amended
to
reflect
that
slavery
and
voluntary
servitude
are
prohibited
in
all
forms,
the
league
of
cities
and
towns?
It's
on
record?
A
Where
are
they
now
me?
If
I
was
a
reporter
I
would
go
to
the
league
of
cities
and
towns
and
ask
them
what
their
position
is
on
this
and
why
they've
Fallen
silent
on
us
on
it
in
the
last
in
the
in
the
11th
hour,
but
of
course
I'm,
not
a
reporter.
So
here's
another
thing:
the
let's
keep
going
on
this
I'm.
This
is
getting
good
I.
Have
some
of
this
I'm
excited
because
I
had
forgotten?
A
Okay,
so
say
that
by
Senator
Ingram,
so
oh
yeah,
so
the
Senate
passes
at
PR2
amended
constitutional,
removing
slavery.
We
took.
There's
testimony
that
went
forward
on
it.
Oh
looky,
here
the
Vermont
Episcopal
Diocese,
their
console
unanimously
approved
the
release
of
a
letter
to
the
city
government
operations
committee
supporting
PR2.
This
is
the
same
Vermont
Episcopal
Diocese,
whose
Bishop
is
a
black
woman.
What
is
her
position
on
this
today?
I
wonder
what
that
is.
A
A
Unanim
unanimously
voted
up
on
this
thing
and
then,
of
course,
you
know
all
of
the
other
Senate
the
legislative
thing.
Why
am
I
telling
you
this?
The
reason
why
I'm
going
over
this
is
because
what
I'm
establishing
is
is
that
the
work
has
been
done.
The
people
have
been
reached,
the
conversations
have
been
had
and
there
are
various
entities
across
this
state
to
include
the
NAACP
and
the
ACLU
who
have
stood
behind
us
on
this
leading
through
this
process.
A
Many
of
them
are
not
around
now.
There
are
maybe
reasons
why
that
is
we're
not
concerning
ourselves
with
that.
But
the
point
is
that
these
are
the
facts.
What
are
your
questions
concerning
this
so
far,
and
then
we're
going
to
go
in
and
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
this
Constitution
and
find
out
what
the
heck
is
in
here.
C
B
B
Me
just
say
it
like
this:
this
is
not
just
Vermont
doing
this.
This
is
a
national
movement.
This
year
alone,
there's
five
on
the
ballot,
we're
doing
the
same.
We've
already
done
it
in
three
other
states.
In
the
past
couple
years
as
of
2023,
there
are
nearly
two
dozen
states
who
are
also
going
to
be
doing
the
same
thing.
Six
of
them
already
have
their
legislation
set
and
ready
to
go
for
2023.,
it's
a
national
effort,
because
it
requires
a
national
response.
B
We
have
to
get
to
the
point
where
slavery
has
been
abolished
from
every
state
that
has
these
caveats,
which
has
fed
or
LED
to
convict
leasing,
mass
incarceration
warehousing
of
bodies
over
policing,
criminalization
of
black
life
and
minority
life.
All
of
these
things
stem
from
this
incentivization
of
incarceration
through
the
13th
Amendment.
We.
A
A
A
We
went
into
the
Senate
government
operations
where
Jeanette
white
was
sharing
and
we
fought
it
out
with
Peter
teachout
and
Dick
McCormick
and
and
others
who
were
and
Dick
McCormick
by
the
way
is
the
only
one
who
voted
against
this
in
the
Senate.
We
fought
it
out
tooth
and
nail
with
the
legislative
Council
with
Peter
teachout
and
they
they
brought
in
so
many
concocted
ideas
and
thoughts
and
and
and
they
were
outweighing
us
because
they
they
out
politicized
us
because
the
legislature
listens
to
them
more
than
they
listen
to
us.
A
A
So
there's
there
are,
there's,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
factors
and
a
lot
of
forces
that
we
were
fighting
against.
In
fact,
they
were
ready
and
you
can
go
look
back.
Those
of
you
who
are
reporters.
You
can
go
and
look
back
at
what
it
is.
They
tried
to
introduce,
because
it's
all
on
record
that
and
the
11th
Hour
they
were
getting
ready
to
introduce
it
to
the
full
Senate,
and
the
problem
with
that
would
have
been
is,
is
once
There
are
rules
once
you
release
it
from
the
Senate
the
first
time.
A
There
is
no
way
to
amend
that
Constitutional
Amendment,
it's
not
like
a
bill
once
it
comes
out
of
that
government
operations,
it
is,
it
is
what
it
is.
I'm
gonna
pause
for
a
minute
and
ask
you
to
think
briefly
and
subliminally
about
pr5
and
why
you
know
so
much
about
it,
but
you
know
nothing
about
this.
Okay,
take
that
with
you
we're
going
to
keep
moving.
So
this
is
what
it
is.
This
is
this
is
the
Constitution,
and
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
Constitution.
You
don't
have
to
go
to
article
11.
A
A
These
are
the
conditions
wherein
which
the
Vermont
Constitution
permits,
slavery
or
I
should
say
they
forbid
slavery.
But
with
these
exceptions,
the
exception
is,
if
you
are
under
the
age
of
21.,
that
is
unambiguous,
very
easy
to
read
unless
you're
bound
by
your
own
consent
and
also,
if
you're,
bound
by
law
for
the
payment
of
debts,
damages
fines,
cost
or
the
like.
These
are
exception.
Clauses.
A
But,
like
I
said
you
know
I,
you
know
there
are
plenty
of
lawyers.
You
can't
swing
a
cat
without
hitting
a
lawyer
around
here,
so
there
are
plenty
of
lawyers.
There
are
plenty
of
legislators.
There
are
plenty
of
folks.
We
got
law
school
folks
and
all
that
other
stuff.
That's
really
if
we
get
stuck
on
exactly
what
one
of
the
things
remember
what
we
agreed
upon
at
the
top
of
this
conversation.
A
Slavery
is
an
abomination.
Slavery
is
a
crime
against
humanity.
That
is
all
so.
If
we
still
agree
upon
that,
then
what
we
should
agree
upon
is
something
needs
to
be
done
about
this
language,
because
what
we're
looking
at
here
and
what
we've
been
experiencing
here
in
the
state
of
Vermont
for
the
last
245
years.
A
A
So
what
to
do
about
it?
The
good
news
about
what
to
do
about
it
is.
Is
that
the
vast
majority
of
it's
done?
This
is
the
101..
What
we
got
to
do
about
it
is
is
just
like
we
were
saying
a
couple
days
ago
show
up
and
register
register
to
vote
and
we're
gonna.
We
continue
to
distribute,
masks,
test
kits
we're
here
now,
there's
going
to
be
our
our
scheduled
hours
of
operation
will
be
posted
soon,
but
this
will
always
be
a
place
where
you
can
come
to
register
to
vote.
A
The
our
rights
have
been
decimated
under
civil.
The
voter
Rights
Act
of
1965
has
been
gutted.
It
has
not
been
Revisited.
Voter
suppression
is
on
the
uprise
and
it's
never
been
as
critical.
It's
never
been
as
serious
as
it
is
right
now
and
what
we
know
about
voting
is
this
just
in
case
somebody
missed
the
memo.
A
And
what
happens
with
that
is
is
the
vast
majority
of
the
time,
and
this
is
human
psychology
forget
about
racism.
This
is
human
psychology.
When
you
are
elected
when
you
are
placed
in
an
executive
position
as
an
official
and
you
are
entrusted
with
a
pointy
Authority,
the
vast
majority
of
people
that
you
will
appoint
will
look
like
you,
the
psychology.
A
That's
that's
why
field
staff
looks
like
him,
but
don't
blame
Phil
because
he
didn't
start
it.
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
voting
and
the
importance
of
voting,
so
we
don't
want
to
we.
Don't
we
don't
wanna.
Second
guess
that
one.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
can
do
that
you
can
do
is
register
to
vote
well.
I'm
already
registered.
Did
you
move?
A
Did
you
get
married?
Did
any
did
your
status
change
in
any
way?
It's
not
good
enough
to
register.
We
need
to
stay
on
top
of
our
registry.
Our
voter
registration
status
I
got
a
license.
It's
like
your
driver's
license.
You
ever
look
at
it.
You
might
find
it.
It's
expired.
If
you're,
not
careful,
so
your
voter
registration
status
is
more
important
than
your
driver's
license.
A
So
so,
let's
get
after
that,
the
second
thing
is,
you
can
go
to
VT,
you
can
go
to
abolishlaveryvt.org
and
we're
still
we're
we're
struggling
because
we're
doing
a
lot
of
things
at
the
same
time.
Well,
so
I'm
not
going
to
apologize
for
the
site,
but
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
we'll
continue
we'll
get
on
it.
We'll
continue
to
do
that.
A
A
We
got
some
yard
signs
that
people
are
scared
to
put
in
their
yards
foreign
because
a
lot
of
our
partners
across
the
state
there
there's
there's
so
much
white
fragility
that
folks
are
afraid
to
have
a
conversation
and
even
hold
one
of
these
signs
up.
These
signs
are
probably
could
be
more
toxic
than
the
black
lives
matter
signs
and
we've
got.
We
probably
got
more
more
of
them
than
black
lives
matter.
Has
their
signs
hold
it
up,
so
that
so
so
put
a
sign
in
your
yard.
C
A
Come
around
stop
by
the
camp
center
and
grab
a
t-shirt,
grab
a
t-shirt,
stop
by
the
Clemson
and
grab
a
t-shirt.
Do
I
have
one:
oh,
this
ain't
one
get
some
stickers
and
and
when
you,
when
you
plan
just
gonna,
be
some
door
knocking
and
there's
some
there's
some
other
stuff
put
some
money
in
the
game.
We'll
registered
with
the
Secretary
of
State
get
some
money
in
the
game.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
you
can
do.
Why?
A
What
what
I'm
saying
is-
and
you
can
see
you
can
see
there
hold
on
for
a
minute.
Let
me
just
stop
this
for
a
minute.
Look
at
there!
Look
at
that!
Look
at
that
shirt.
You
got
it
jaina!
You!
You
send
me
a
note
we'll
send
you
we'll,
send
you
some
of
them
just
so
you
can
have
one
for
you,
gosh
yeah.
We
got
you,
we
got
you
so
so
I'm!
So
now
what
again?
A
What
is
why
yeah,
you
know
and
people
get
people
are
getting
confused
because
again,
there's
this
cognitive,
dissonance
and
folks
are
like
a
lot
of
folks
can't
get
past
the
fact
that
we
are
not
the
first
state
to
abolish
slavery,
because
if
we
were,
we
wouldn't
be
looking
at
what
we're
looking
at
right.
Now,
you
can
say
it.
However,
you
want
to
say
it
you
could
slice
it.
A
A
So
now
let
me
talk
to
you
like
a
preacher
right
now
and
what
I'm
telling
you
is
we
have.
We
don't
just
have
a
responsibility.
We
have
a
duty
to
address
this,
because
what
this
has
created
is
it
has
created
poverty,
and
it
has
selected
a
certain
group
of
people
to
be
the
benefactors
of
that
policy
of
that
poverty
and
it's
manifesting
itself
in
housing,
education,
employment,
Health,
Services
acts
across
all
of
those
social
determinants.
That
is
why
we
struggle
with
this
so-called
this
lightly.
This
work
folks
throw
around
lightly.
A
Oh,
it
is
equity.
We
need
to
do
Equity.
No,
we
need
to
do
justice,
we
need
to
love
Mercy
and
we
need
to
walk
humbly,
and
this
is
part
of
our
job
and
whether
you
are
a
person
of
Faith
or
whether
you
are
agnostic
or
whether
you're
atheistic,
where
your
morals
lie.
Where
your,
where
your
worldview
lies.
You
know
in
your
heart
that
this
is
the
thing
that
we
should
be
doing.
As
a
people,
because
it's
slavery
and
slavery
is
reprehensible,
it
is
immoral.
It
is
a
crime
against
humanity.
F
A
A
Oh,
would
you
rather
have
that
all
of
the
work
is
done?
All
we
got
to
do
now
is
register,
show
up
at
The,
Ballot
Box
show
up
at
The,
Ballot,
Box
and
and
again
think
about
how
consequential
this
vote
is
think
about
this
one-third
of
the
legislature
is
turning
over.
What
does
that
mean?
They?
They
quit.
A
A
A
So,
that's
that's
Advanced
it
it's
it's!
It's
it's!
It's
relevant
it's
important,
but
we're
not
going
to
wave
that
flag
right
now.
We
can
talk
about
that
later.
Folks
are
going
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
DCF,
for
example,
in
child
Perfect
protection
services,
is
black.
Children
are
60
more
likely
to
be
removed
from
their
homes
and
40
more
likely
to
be
adopted.
A
A
We
can
talk
about
that
later,
but
what
I'm
saying
in
in
in
and
I'm
going
to
leave
you
with
this,
and
this
is
something
for
you
to
think
about
and
I'll
open
it
up
for
a
brief
conversation.
This
is
something
for
you
to
think
about,
and
this
is
for
those
who
came
to
hear
about
prison
slavery
or
prison.
Labor.
A
This
is
the
premise
upon
which
most
of
the
states
across
the
United
States,
if
not
all,
are
doing
some
of
the
work
now
I
I
already
showed
you
the
trajectory
that
we
came
from
okay,
and
we
were
fully
aware
of
this,
and
the
words
are
important.
They
matter
words
matter
they
what
they
matter
a
lot
and
the
first
pushback
I
got
is,
is
don't
worry
about
it?
It's
just
words.
In
our
constitution,
the
13th
amendment
has
its
covered
and
I
asked
myself.
What
does
that
mean?
A
The
more
I've
come
to
understand
now,
watch
this
I'm,
no
lawyer,
I'm
no
lawyer,
but
watch
this,
because
what
we
know-
and
this
is
going
to
get
ugly
in
a
minute-
but
it's
I'll
straighten
it
out.
What
we
know
is
is
that
cannabis
is
a
schedule,
one
drug,
but
yet
and
still
on
October
1st.
It
will
be
taxable
and
regulatable
here
in
the
state,
because
it's
decriminalized
and
legalized.
A
What
we
know
is
is
that,
as
far
as
immigration
is
concerned,
there
are
certain
standards,
protocols
and
rules
that
law
enforcement
has
regarding
interaction
with,
and
apprehension
and
Detention
of
them.
But
we
know
that
the
fair
and
impartial
policing
policy
in
Title
20,
20
23
2366,
provides
Provisions
whereby
our
law
enforcement,
all
79
agencies,
cannot
and
wink
in
certain
instances,
and
that's
not
a
bad
thing,
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
once
again
we're
talking
about
an
industry.
A
A
minute
ago,
we
were
talking
about
a
cannabis
industry
which
is
profitable
for
the
state
right.
This
is
the
dairy
industry,
because
what
we
know
is
is
that
1500
people
who
are
undocumented
immigrants
are
here
in
this
state
and
they
run
and
control
God
bless.
You
God
bless
you
migrant,
Justice,
that
industry
and
Hannaford's
get
on
the
train.
A
So
we
know
that
we
know
these
things.
We
also
know
that
when
Donald
Trump
came
into
office,
that
there
was
a
fear
that
there
was
a
possibility
that
Roe
verse
Ray
would
be
overturned,
so
they
they
placed
in
statute
language
that
provided
the
reproductive
right
protection
of
women
in
the
state
of
Vermont
as
early
as
2019
and
started
a
constitutional
amendment
pr5,
so
the
law
to
land
now
maybe
Roe,
verse
Wade,
but
we
have
different
values
here
in
this
state.
In
fact,
we
have
different
values
regarding
each
of
them.
A
A
A
Is
not
an
exception
in
this
state,
and
these
cannot
be.
They
have
to
be
mutually
exclusive
because
our
constitution
is
clear
and
it
always
has
been
clear
and
I
posit
that
our
constitution
has
never
embraced
the
13th
Amendment
and
that
exception
clause
for
the
last.
For
the
last
several
you
know
10
or
seven
or
eight
decades
now
again,
I'm,
not
a
constitutional
scholar,
but
I,
don't
see
anything
in
our
Constitution.
That
suggests
that
this
is
an
exception.
A
A
A
It's
a
sin
if
it
flies
in
the
face
of
every
moral
fiber
in
every
single
one
of
our
bodies.
That
is
a
fact
fact.
Number
two
is:
is
our
constitution
permits
it
in
three
particular
instances?
Fact
number
three
is,
as
we've
done,
the
work
we've
got.
We've
done
everything
that
needed
to
be
to
get
done
in
order
to
move
us
to
a
point
to
fix
that,
and
the
final
fact,
which
I
think
is
the
most
true
is,
is
that
you
aren't.
A
C
A
slavery
abolitionist
so
I
get
real
specific
with
them.
I'm
your
vote
and
if
you
want
to
learn
more
I,
always
plug
abolition
today,
which
is
the
best
education
to
learn
about
what
it
means
to
be
an
abolitionist.
What
it's,
the
slavery
thing
even
is
and
how
it
came
about
in
America
and
in
Vermont,
so
obviously
I'm
for
prop
2.
I
do
gotta,
go
because
she's,
a
busy
gal
jaina
mummy
so
good
to
see
you
and
yes,
everybody
have
a
blessed
night,
obviously
we're
gonna
vote.
C
A
D
A
No
doubt
hey
I
appreciate
you
hanging
in
there
all
the
way
to
the
end
too,
because
you
know
we
we've
been
flat
out
for
an
hour
and
I
I
know
you're
busy,
just
like
everybody
else
for
thanks.
So
thanks
for
making
a
commitment
brother,
thank
you
all
right,
we'll
talk
to
you
soon,
jaina.
What
do
you
got
for
me?
Well,
did
you
learn
anything
or
or
did
I
just
make
you
mad.
E
No,
that
was
great
I
knew
this
was
important,
but
I
didn't
realize
how
Shady
the
loopholes
were
for
Vermont,
specifically
so
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
very
interested
to
get
into
more
conversations,
I
learned
so
much
about
how
the
legislator
and
government
works.
Just
like
really
appreciate
all
your
insights.
A
A
G
H
G
E
A
Also
jaina,
when
you
reach
out
to
our
folks
whoever
responds
we're
gonna,
be
like
I,
said
we're
gonna
be
doing
a
blitz
of
a
number
of
events,
some
of
what
most
of
which
the
staff
don't
even
know
about.
Yet
because
we
we're
get,
we
gotta,
we
gotta
do
a
pivot.
We
we're
doing
what
what
we
call
it
audible
in
the
football
game,
calling.
B
A
F
It
kind
of
Lights
you
up,
it
brings
the
fire
if
I
hadn't
brought
it
to
you
it
it
just
ignites
it,
and
you
know
once
once
your
eyes
are
wide
open
to
the
truth.
We
can
no
longer
walk
with
your
eyes
wide,
shut
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
you
know
that
that
was
that
was
happening
collectively,
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
everybody
has
that.
F
F
Currently,
so
you
know
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
to
where,
like
you
know,
when
you
get
an
alignment
on
a
Noah's
Ark,
you
know
you
got
to
figure
out
what
what
part
of
the
boat
you
want
to
be
on,
because
we're
going
to
be
feeling
we're
going
to
be
flowing,
we're
gonna
be
flowing
through
the
city,
you
know,
and
we
you
just
tapping
into
neighborhoods
that
you
know
definitely
needs
to
awaken
it.
You
know,
along
with
ours,
you
know
what
I'm
saying.
A
H
That
so
that
was
something
new
that
I've
that
I've
heard
because
I've
been
in
these
meetings
a
lot
of
these
meetings,
and
that
was
something
new
that
I
that
I
heard
from
you,
and
it
was.
You
gave
some
really
good
examples
on
that,
thanks,
so
yeah,
it's
it's
really
important
to
get
out
and
vote,
and
just
let
your
voice
be
heard
so
that
we
can
make
change.
A
Thanks
Maya
and
thanks
again
it's
it's.
It's
awesome
to
be
on
these
meetings
and
and
have
this
the
staff
here
and
and
what
we'll
do
is
we're
going
to
be
in
All
Souls
church
on
Saturday
I
don't
have
the
times
yet,
but
All
Souls
has
invited
us
First.
Congregational
Church
has
invited
us
out
for
Tuesday.
That's
38,
South
Winooski,
that's
at
three
at
6
p.m.
Here
in
Burlington,
38
South,
Winooski
I
will
be
given
a
community
presentation.
A
F
A
St
Paul
St,
Paul
Street,
so
the
so
that's
there
that's
going
to
be
Wednesday
night
on
at
6
p.m
and
on
Thursday
night
at
6
p.m,
we'll
be
in
the
library
in
Fletcher,
Free
Library,
and
then
we
we
will.
We
will
look
and
see
what
else
is
left,
because
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
just
want
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
blitz
leading
up
to
the
first,
because
the
first
of
October
ballots
are
going
out.
A
So
we've
got
some
some
some
wiggle
room
there,
where
we
can
get
a
couple
of
other
events
in.
We
will
start
to
broadcast
so
I'm
going
to
reach
out
to
our
folks
over
at
Channel,
17
and
others,
and
also
we'll
start
broadcasting
ourselves
on
on
Facebook.
I
was
going
to
do
that
this
evening,
but
I
ran
into
a
little
bit
of
technical
difficulty,
but
I
think
I,
don't
think
it's
intermountable
we'll
come
back
to
that.
A
So
just
to
let
you
know
that
pivot
that
that
audible,
that
we're
calling
is
is
we
want
to
do
this
on
our
terms?
We
do
have
National
Partners,
who
we
love
and
respect.
We
also
have
state
Partners,
who
we
love
and
respect
and
understand.
We've.
You
know
the
the
as
the
information
begins
to
come
in
and
as
we
experience
on
the
you
know,
some
of
the
you
know
some
of
the
I
guess
I
for
lack
of
better
terms.
A
I'll
just
call
it
a
a
like
a
data
loop
in
terms
of
how
you
know
how
we're
getting
information
back
in
through
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
the
communities
and
the
conversations
that
we're
having
having
it's
becoming
increasingly
clear
that
we
need
to
get
our
voice
out
front.
We
need
to
tell
our
story
about
what
it
is
that
we've
done
concerning
this
work,
and
we
need
to
make
it
very
clear
what
this
is
all
about,
because
I
think
you
know
it
is
it's
Insidious.
It's
unfortunate.
A
You
know
and
that
that's
really
not
trivial.
If
you
think
about
the
the
media
in
how
the
media
has
handled
this
incredibly
important
issue
and
Constitutional
Amendment,
and
if
you
think
about
just
the
response
from
Community
the
response
from
our
alleged
partners
on
this-
and
even
you
know
the
the
string
that
we've
been
hanging
by
in
terms
of
financially
and
how
to
get
this
work
done,
there
is
no
interest
in
this
work.
There
is
absolutely
no
interest
in
the
work
of
this
Constitutional
Amendment.
A
So
this
we
can
all
be
on
the
other
side
of
this
all
without
having
a
conversation
on
the
connection
on
of
the
legacy
of
slavery
to
the
institution
of
slavery
and
the
validity
of
the
conversation
that
slavery
has
always
existed
in
the
constitution
of
Vermont
good
night
y'all.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
bless
you
all.