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From YouTube: CHI 2 State Representative Forum - September 12, 2022
Description
00:01:05 Opening Statements
00:08:40 Education
00:16:33 Health Care
00:25:22 Criminal Justice Reform
00:32:42 Ballot Issues
00:43:57 Language Access
00:50:43 Community Access
00:55:39 30 Second Answers
01:00:53 Closing Comments
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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
ongoing
election
coverage
by
town
meeting
television.
This
is
one
in
a
series
of
forums
brought
to
you
in
advance
of
the
general
election
on
November,
8th
town
meeting,
TV
hosts
forums
with
all
candidates
and
covers
all
items
on
the
ballot
so
that
you
can
meet
Community
decision
makers
and
get
to
get
to
learn
about
issues
that
affect
your
community.
A
Tonight's
forum
is
between
the
four
candidates
running
for
two
available
seats
in
the
excuse
me
House
Seats
in
the
Chittenden
and
Chittenden
District
2.
I'm,
your
moderator,
Emily,
Brewer,
I'm
joined
by
Angela
Arsenal,
Aaron,
Brady,
Tony,
O'rourke
and
Bruce
Roy.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
me
tonight
really
appreciate
that.
I
just
want
to
remind
folks
who
are
watching
this
live
that
we
welcome
you
to
call
in
with
questions.
A
Please
call
802-862-3966
and
we'll
get
your
question
answered
by
the
candidates
live
on
air
and
you
can
watch
town
meeting
TV
on
Comcast
channel,
1087,
Burlington,
Telecom
channels,
217
and
17,
as
well
as
youtube.com
town
meeting
TV.
With
that
being
said,
we'll
jump
right
into
the
opening
statements
and
Aaron
as
the
incumbent,
we'll
start
with
you,
and
so
for
the
opening
statement.
Can
you
please
tell
us
why
you're
running
and
what
experience
you
bring
to
the
position?
Great.
B
Opportunity,
it's
great
to
be
I,
don't
think
Tony
and
I
got
to
talk
in
person
until
election
day
two
years
ago.
So
for
the
past
two
years,
I've
been
really
honored
to
represent
Williston
in
the
legislature,
and
we've
been
working
hard
to
fulfill
the
commitment
we
made
to
all
vermonters
and
their
communities
to
build
a
strong
Statewide
recovery.
B
I'm
a
high
school
teacher
now
in
my
16th
year
and
one
of
the
most
important
lessons
I've
learned
from
my
years
in
the
classroom,
is
the
cumulative
impact
of
inequitable
opportunities
and
experiences
on
young
people
and
their
families
and
subsequently,
then,
our
communities
I'll
continue
to
be
a
strong
advocate
for
families
and
children.
In
addition
to
being
a
teacher,
I
am
also
a
school
board.
Member
of
seven
years
elected
to
represent
our
community,
a
parent
of
two
school-aged
children
and
before
covet,
made
things
a
lot
more
difficult.
B
A
C
C
An
awareness
of
that
as
well
I've,
been
a
journalist
for
20
years,
so
I've
really
practiced
the
skill
of
question
asking-
and
it's
been
my
job
to
take
in
information
to
talk
to
people
gain
perspective
and
then
share
that
information
share
their
perspective
with
readers
and
I
look
forward
to
doing
the
same
thing
for
voters
as
a
legislator.
I'm
also
a
school
board.
C
Member
who's
learned
a
lot
about
policy
making
and
keeping
people
who
will
be
impacted
by
policies
at
the
center
of
those
policies
as
you're
crafting
them
and
finally,
as
a
woman
and
a
mom
in
our
culture,
I
bring
a
perspective
to
the
legislature
that
has
been
missing
from
far
too
many
conversations
for
far
too
long.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
D
Thank
you.
Everyone
again,
viewers
at
home,
I've
run
before,
and
the
reasons
are
consistent
today,
as
they
were
then
I
view
this
as
community
service
and
a
chance
to
represent
our
constituents.
Our
friends,
our
family,
our
neighbors
I,
believe
that,
if
you're
willing
and
able
to
throw
your
hat
in
the
ring
that
you
should
so
here,
I
am
again
doing
just
that
I'm,
currently
serving
as
a
Justice
of
the
Peace
in
Williston,
which
gives
me
some
opportunity
to
to
do
a
little
bit
on
that
on
a
very
local
level.
D
But
this
is
an
opportunity
to
reach
a
little
bit
larger
group
to
service
in
in
Vermont.
My
background
is,
is
predominantly
in
the
hospitality
industry.
I've
worked
in
the
restaurant
industry
for
many
years.
It's
what
brought
me
to
Vermont
25
years
ago
this
year.
Currently
we
have
a
small
family
wine
business,
so
I'm
really
out.
There
talked
to
a
lot
of
business
people.
What
they're
struggles
are
what
they're,
what
their
goals
are
and
that's
a
moving
moving
Target.
D
As
we
all
know,
the
last
couple
years
have
been
very
uncertain
and
I
watched
people
work
really
really
hard
for
many
years
and
pour
their
life's
savings
into
a
business
and
watch
it
crumble
in
some
cases,
and
it
was
difficult,
I
think
we're
getting
in
a
better
position,
but
I
think
we've
got
a
long
way
to
go.
My
Approach
is
one
of
Engagement
in
Civility
and
inclusion.
I
think
everyone
should
have
an
opportunity
to
throw
their
hat
in
the
ring
it
shouldn't
be
based
on
income
or
education.
A
E
You
well
I'm
Bruce,
Roy
and
I've,
been
a
resident
of
Chittenden
County,
probably
longer
than
I
care
to
mention,
because
it'll
date
me
and
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
My
gray
hair
does
that
all
by
itself
and
I
graduated
from
Essex
High
School
graduated
from
UVM
was
on
the
Essex
school
board
and
was
a
computer
science
instructor
at
CCV
for
the
longest
time
I'm
a
retired
I
spent
30
years
in
the
Vermont
Air
Guard
retired.
E
As
a
fullberg
colonel
and
one
of
my
last
jobs
at
the
Guard
base
was
boon-based
operations,
I
managed
approximately
400
folks
and
we
dealt
with
all
sorts
of
Base
operations
issues
at
the
fire
department,
the
Social
Security
Forces,
guys
Communications
team,
the
holy
Human
Resources
guys
they
all
reported
to
me
and
so
I
learned
how
to
run
a
large
organization
across
a
diverse,
a
diverse
skill
set
I'm.
Also
a
retired
IBM
engineer
manager,
business
line
leader.
E
My
last
job
at
IBM
was
the
profit
and
loss
manager
for
just
shy
of
a
10-digit
profit
and
loss
business.
Why
I'm
running
is
I
just
go
nuts.
The
vermonters
are
being
pushed
to
the
limits
on
providing
the
basics
in
each
their
families.
Cost
of
living
expenses
are
out
of
control.
General
inflation
up
eight
percent
groceries
of
13
taxes
are
up
almost
five
percent
for
folks
in
Williston,
gasoline
prices
are
up
two
dollars
a
gallon.
I
mean
this
is
gonna.
E
This
is
a
huge
huge
burden
on
the
typical
vermoner
and
I
decided
to
get
off
the
couch
after
being
retired
and
see
if
I
can't
lend
my
expertise
to
solving
some
of
those
problems.
One
of
the
things
I
see
is
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
disconnect
between
what
vermonters
need
and
what's
going
on
in
the
legislature,
I
mean
in
the
middle
of
this
madness
of
skyrocketing
prices.
It
was
brought
forward
to
do
a
carbon
tax,
a
clean
heat
standard
tax,
which
was
going
to
pass
pass
taxes
on
to
already
challenged
financially
challenged.
E
Folks
I
thought
it
was
nuts
I'm
glad
the
governor
vetoed
it,
but
the
governor
was
in
just
a
hair,
just
close
to
getting
it
over
over
over
ridden
by
the
legislature.
So
part
of
what
I
want
to
do
is
be
part
of
the
balance
that
has
to
be
in
the
legislature.
We
all
trust
the
governor.
We
all
think
he's
a
great
guy
doing
a
good
job.
We
shouldn't
take
away
his
constitutional
approval,
processary
override
veto
process.
We
can
override
that
too
easy
now
and.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
Bruce
appreciate
that
all
right
great.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
opening
statements.
Let's
move
right
on
to
the
first
question
and
we'll
start
with
Angela
for
this
question,
which
involves
education,
so
the
legislature
can
make
impacts
on
how
education
is
funded.
Statewide.
Do
you
see
the
need
for
changes
to
how
we
fund
education
and
how
would
you
use
your
office
to
move
changes
forward.
C
I
really
appreciate
this
question.
Of
course,
something
I
think
about
a
lot
as
a
school
board.
Chair
and
I
first
want
to
lift
up
the
work
that
representative
Brady
and
her
colleagues
have
done
in
the
last
legislative
session
to
really
get
the
wheels
in
motion
to
move
toward
a
fully
funding,
Universal
School
meals.
We
have.
We
have
Universal
School
meals
this
year,
thanks
to
the
work
of
Representative,
Brady
and
and
others
like
her,
and
it's
a
bit
of
a
pilot
year.
C
If
you
will
and
we're
still
I
know
that
there's
work
to
be
done
as
far
as
seeking
sustainable,
long-term
funding
for
Universal
meals
in
schools,
and
so
that's
one
funding
I
would
call
that
a
funding
change
and
I'm
excited
about
that.
I
think
it
goes
a
long
way
toward
recognizing
nutrition
as
one
of
the
building
blocks
of
high
quality
education
that
it
truly
is,
and
you
know.
Secondly,
we
have
coming
down
the
line.
C
C
But
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
it's,
it's
a
great
start,
a
really
great,
actually
more
than
a
start,
but
I'd
love
to
know
that
there's
a
little
more
accountability
built
in
to
the
Equitable
school
funding
law,
so
that
we're
sure
that
the
increased
tax
capacity
is
being
used
to
direct
resources
to
the
kids,
to
the
students
who
are
have
been
identified
as
needing
extra
support
and
then
kind
of
big
picture
ideas.
Maybe
just
to
offer
a
couple.
C
I
would
really
love
to
see
increased
funding
for
Career
and
Technical
education
in
our
state,
and
the
governor
himself
has
mentioned
this.
It
seems
to
be
gaining
traction
at
the
state
level
and
I
just
think
it's
so
important
to
offer
very
robust
options
to
folks
who
are
not
necessarily
on
the
college
track
and
and
to
stop
making.
It
seem
as
if
that's
the
choice
to
make
I
think
my
time
is
up
there.
A
A
D
I
think
inherently,
the
sources
of
funding
are
fairly
acceptable
to
most
people
in
Vermont.
The
vast
majority
of
that
is
coming
from
Vermont
from
our
property
tax.
We
probably
all
see
a
little
increase
in
that
which
isn't
always
welcome,
but
you
know
we
spend
we're
one
of
the
highest
per
student
spendings
in
the
in
the
country,
two
schools
of
thought
on
that
we
should
be
proud
of
that,
because
it's
very
important
to
provide
education
for
our
students.
D
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
a
return
on
our
investment
and
making
sure
that
that
money
is
is,
is
netting
quality,
education
that
prepares
Young
Folks
to
go
out
to
college
or
into
the
Working
World
or
to
start
a
business.
It's
a
really
hard
thing
to
measure.
You
know
customer
satisfaction
per
se.
Do
you
go
to
the
to
the
the
the
parents?
Do
you
go
to
standardized
tests?
They
all
play
a
role
in
that
we
have
teachers
and
my
family.
My
sister
teaches
fourth
grade
in
Saratoga
New
York.
D
So
we
have
these
conversations.
I
think
you
know
again.
I
would
like
to
see
perhaps
at
the
federal
level
a
little
bit
more
money
come
into
the
state
of
Vermont,
based
on
reaching
hurdles
and
exceeding
goals
that
make
sense
and
are
achievable
and
attainable.
But
overall
I
think
the
funding
framework
is
okay.
It's
what
we
do
with
the
money
that
we
we
take
in
so
great.
E
I
mean
there
was
a
lot
of
good
things
happened
as
a
result
of
the
ACT
127
passing
I.
Think
that
was
a
good
deal.
I
mean
maintaining.
Control
of
the
budget
in
the
school
board
level
is
a
great
idea.
I'm
glad
we're
doing
that,
and
the
idea
of
having
Equitable
funding
across
the
state
for
folks,
less
fortunate
and
less
capable
is
a
great
idea.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
tighten
our
budgets
up
tight.
You
know
sharpen
our
pencils
and
try
to
understand.
This
is
not
an
unlimited
spending
we
can
do.
E
Certainly
education
is
important.
It's
our
next
generation
of
leaders
in
workers
and
doctors
and
all
that-
and
so
we
have
to
we
have
to.
We
have
to
focus
on
that
for
sure,
but
we
can't
keep
raising
that.
We
can't
keep
taxing
the
taxpayers
and
give
more
money
with
it
with
a
budget
that
grows
and
grows.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
take
an
approach,
maybe
a
little
different
right.
Now
the
the
budget
gets
created,
the
folks
look
at
it.
E
We
figure
out
how
the
tax-
maybe
we
just
say
this-
is
the
tax
we're
going
to
put
and
let's
make
the
let's
make
the
education
fit
the
budget
and
as
part
of
127
I,
think
there
was
a
discussion
that
the
department
of
taxes
is
going
to
look
at
other
funding
methods
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
good
idea.
We
should
look
at
all
sorts
of
stuff,
whether
it's
an
income
tax
on
income
or
whatever.
It's
a
good
thing
to
do.
B
Thank
you,
so
much
I
came
here
straight
from
teaching
all
day,
so
I'm
passionate
about
this
one
and
appreciate
a
lot
of
what's
already
been
said
here.
We
have
a
really
complex
education
funding
system
here
in
Vermont,
it's
one
of
the
most
Progressive
in
the
country,
but
it
is
quite
complex.
We
took
some
important
steps
in
the
last
session
to
make
it
more
Equitable
and
created
a
Glide
path
for
districts
like
ours.
B
As
you
said,
an
income-based
tax
system
I
think
we
need
to
look
carefully
at
those
results
because
it
would
potentially
be
more
transparent
it,
and
it
would
potentially
mean
that
you
know
we
are
asking
those
who
can
afford
it
more
to
be
the
ones
who
are
carrying
the
higher
burden.
I
want
our
tax
system
to
Value
work
over
wealth,
and
certainly
when
it
comes
to
funding
our
schools,
I
think
that's
particularly
true.
B
We
were
able
last
year
with
a
huge
Surplus
in
the
education
fund
to
fund
Universal,
School
meals,
as
Angela
said,
and
return,
20
million
dollars
to
the
taxpayers
in
the
form
of
a
not
increasing
the
yield,
and
that
then
impacts
the
property
tax
rates.
So
there
was
hard
work
done
in
the
legislature
last
year
to
be
very
careful
with
our
Collective
resources
and
on
a
Statewide
level.
B
I
have
to
say,
while
we
do
have
a
very
well-funded
K-12
system
and
I
really
like
the
way
you
put
it,
and
the
challenge
is
that
you
know
that
acts
forces
us
and
things
that
forces
us
to
ask
ourselves.
I
think
we
do
need
to
find
some
efficiencies
in
our
K-12
system,
but
I'm
really
concerned
about
our
Statewide
investments
in
the
bookends
of
our
system.
I
think
we
need
to
be
spending
and
prioritizing
much
more
in
the
early
years
and
we
need
to
do
more
in
the
post-secondary,
like
Angela
talked
about
Career
and
Technical
education.
B
A
A
And
with
that,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
question,
which
involves
health
care
and
we'll
start
with
Tony
for
this
one,
so
the
increasing
cost
of
Health
Care
is
putting
pressure
on
vermonters
and
the
state's
economy
covet
has
sharpened
our
focus
on
inequities
in
health
care.
What
is
next
for
Health
Care
changes
in
Vermont,
and
please
be
specific.
If
you
can
okay.
D
Healthcare
again,
best
practices
are
always
something
I
Look
to
where.
How
do
we
bring
professionals
in?
How
do
we
get
Roundtable
discussions
on
this?
My
wife
works
in
the
medical
electronic
records
side
of
this.
So
we
have
conversations
about
that
about
efficiencies
a
few
years
ago.
Vermonters
will
remember
very
well.
This
is
the
attempt
at
single-payer
here
around
the
same
time,
Massachusetts
was
rolling
out
something
called
Romney
care.
One
worked
for
the
most
part.
D
One
didn't
cart
before
the
horses
are
the
things
that
we
really
need
to
try
to
avoid,
and
this
has
so
so
many
moving
Parts.
But
truly
it's
heartbreaking
to
see
people
that
have
family
members
that
get
ill
and
they're
setting
up
gofundme's
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
anyone
can
watch
things
like
that
and
not
feel
for
that,
and
no
one
should
go
bankrupt
because
they
get
sick.
That's
at
the
core
of
this.
So
how
do
we
get
more
efficient?
That's
a
really
difficult
question
to
answer:
it's!
It's
access!
D
It's
a
personal
responsibility
for
taking
care
of
yourself
to
kind
of
keep
your
your
medical
care
down,
but
sometimes
that
that
doesn't
even
play
a
role
in
this
with
certain
illnesses
so
going
after
catastrophic
coverage.
Absolutely
that's
number
one
and
then
from
there
we
look
to
to
kind
of
layer
underneath
that
with
things
like
prescription
drugs,
I
mean
I,
know
people
that
go
without
their
prescription
because
they
can't
afford
it.
Their
co-pays
are
Sky
High.
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
You
know
the
promise
of
Affordable
Health
Care
for
everyone
has
never
really
been
beulfilled
by
you
know
evident
by
our
bills.
Today,
no
matter
what
the
administration
is
or
whatever
it's
just
it
just
hasn't
happened
and
I
believe
covid
not
really
focus
us,
but
rather
kind
of
detracted
us
from
solving
the
problems
that
we've
got
going
on
today
and
we
all
got
invested
in
covert.
E
You
have
to
have
that
combination
and,
sadly,
because
of
covid
that
work
kind
of
kind
of
got
kind
of
got,
pushed
to
the
back
and
really
wasn't
a
good
good
chance
to
see
if
it's
working,
what
the
metrics
are.
Are
we
improving?
So
you
know
with
the
Advent
covet,
and
you
know
that
we
found
out
that
telemedicine.
Telehealth
is
a
good
thing:
I
read
an
article
today
about
some
young
man
who
started
a
mobile
Health
Center,
that's
showing
up
at
companies
good
deal
for
employees
good
deal
for
the
employers.
E
You
know
you
show
right
up,
get
your
heart.
Your
blood
pressure
taken,
get
your
shots
whatever
it's
a
great
idea,
so
there's
things
we
can
look
at,
but
I
really
think
we
need
to
give
a
chance
to
this
to
the
to
the
organizations
that
are
already
in
place
and
give
them
a
couple
of
years.
Maybe
you
know
whatever
give
them
an
extension
and
let's
see
in
two
years
whether
this
all-pair
model
is
going
to
work
for
Vermont.
B
Thanks
I
may
be
a
junior
or
maybe
a
senior
in
education
policy
and
funding,
but
I'm
definitely
a
freshman
when
we
talk
about
health
care,
but
I
think
we
absolutely
have
to
Value
access
and
affordability
and
those
need
to
be
the
driving
components
of
our
decisions.
It's
a
human
right
and
we
need
to
continue
to
increase
access
to
health
care
and
to
mental
health
care,
in
particular,
to
make
it
more
affordable
and
to
focus
on
prevention
and
public
health.
But
it's
a
highly
complex
system.
B
We
have
about
20
percent
of
vermonters
who
are
on
Medicare,
which
is
entirely
regulated
at
the
federal
level,
about
a
little
over
20
on
Medicaid,
which
is
a
combination
of
state
and
federal
action
and
decisions,
and
then
a
bit
over
50
percent
on
private
employer
provided
or
private
insurance.
So
we're
dealing
with
a
really
complex
policy
issue
here
and
not
something
that
a
state
legislature
alone
can
address.
I
appreciate
your
comments,
Bruce
about
Telehealth.
B
That
was
something
the
legislature
dealt
with
last
session
and
realizing
the
huge
shifts
that
happened
because
of
covid,
and
so
we
instituted-
or
we
passed
some
new
Telehealth
registration
and
licensing
requirements
in
order
to
allow
that
practice
to
continue,
but
make
sure
that
we
are
protecting
vermonters
and
patients.
We
also
invested
pretty
heavily
in
nursing
and
nursing
programs,
because
we
have
a
real
shortage
of
Nursing
and
we
are
forecasting
to
have
a
shortage
of
Nursing
in
the
near
future.
A
C
Well,
I
know
we'll
get
to
this
eventually,
but
I
think
immediately.
The
next
big
Health,
Care
change
and
I
do
consider
it
a
health
care
change
is
the
passage
of
article
22
or
prop
5.
The
reproductive
Liberty
amendment
I,
think
that
is
absolutely
a
health
care
issue
and
that's
a
change
that
I
hope
to
see
and
I
know
we'll
talk
more
about
that
later.
C
Okay.
So
now
we
need
more
practitioners
to
move
into
the
state
perhaps
or
we
need
to
educate
folks
who
are
already
live
here,
so
they
can
become
practitioners.
So
now
we're
talking
about
housing
and
we're
talking
about
education
when
we
started
talking
about
health
care.
So
that
is
the
approach
that
I
would
take
to
really
any
any
of
these
complex
issues
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit
to
really
consider
the
full
picture
and
then
to
build
that
puzzle
as
the
full
picture,
rather
than
handling
smaller
vignettes,
whenever
possible.
A
E
So,
as
far
as
reform
within
the
police
department,
I
support
our
our
police,
our
First
Responders,
all
these
folks
who
put
their
lives
on
the
on
the
line.
Every
time
they
go
out,
100
and
actually
one
of
the
things
I
talked
about
with
Chief,
Foley
and
Williston.
The
other
day
was
concerns
about
accountability
of
police
officers
and
I.
E
Think
there's
already
a
law
in
the
books
that
pretty
much
the
pedals
that
it's
some
I
think
it's
called
act
56
and
in
2018,
which
has
a
council
that
is
responsible
for
investigating
and
doing
a
judgment
on
whether
a
a
police
officer,
a
law
enforcement
officer,
any
sort
of
had
some
professional
misconduct
and
I.
Think
that's.
Would
you
give
that
a
shot
too?
Maybe
the
council
itself
needs
to
be
adjusted
a
little
bit
but
I
think
there's
a
mechanism
for
that
and
I.
E
Don't
think
we
need
to
go
any
further,
I
think
what
we
have
to
keep
in
in
place,
though,
is
the
focus
on
who
are
the
victims
of
crimes.
You
know
it's:
it's
not
the
criminals
who
are
the
victims.
They
may
have
sad
circumstances
to
why
the
thing
why
they
did
the
crime
but
they're,
not
the
victims,
they're,
not.
We
need
to
enforce
laws
that
we
have
detain
and
prosecute
criminals
who
break
the
laws
and
get
them
to
a
court
and
go
through
the
judicial
process.
E
If
found
guilty,
they
have
to
suffer
the
consequences
and
then,
if
we
can
rehabilitate
them,
so
we
have
changes
that
can
be
made,
but
I
think
there's
things
in
place:
I,
don't
like
solving
problems
over
again.
We
got
other
problems
that
are
right
out
there
in
front
of
us
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
so
I
think
this
one
I
think
Vermont
has
done
a
decent
job
in
holding
police
officers
accountable,
but
we've
got
to
have
I'll
be
blunt.
We
have
to
have
prosecutors
that
prosecute
crimes
and
and
hold
criminals
responsible
for
their
Acts.
A
B
We
ultimately
need
to
find
a
balance.
Restorative
justice
has
an
important
role
to
play
in
making
important
long
overdue
changes
in
our
criminal
justice
system
and
law
enforcement
plays
a
vital
role
in
all
of
our
communities
and
I
value
their
service.
These
two
cannot
be
at
odds.
We
have
to
find
find
the
balance
there.
I
supported
Ted,
Kennedy,
Ted
Kenny's
candidacy
for
State's
Attorney,
because
he
seemed
to
understand
the
balance
was
perhaps
off
a
bit
in
our
County,
but
regardless
of
the
outcome
of
that
election,
this
is
a
really
complex
issue.
B
We
have
extraordinary
mental
health
needs.
We
have
systemic
inequities
things.
As
Angela
pointed
out.
You
take
one
issue
and
start
peeling
back
the
layers
and
we're
talking
about
issues
of
housing,
we're
talking
about
minimum
wage,
Health,
Care
access,
and
it's
often
our
law
enforcement
members,
who
are
the
ones
who
are
on
the
front
lines
or
the
only
ones,
responding
in
situations
that
are
really
complex
and
are
multi-layered
societal
problems
and
the
legislature
has
been
and
will
continue
to
work
on
police
reform
as
well.
B
We
commissioned
a
study
in
the
past
session
on
whether
qualified
immunity
prohibits
adequate
police
accountability
or
not.
So
we'll
need
to
look
closely
at
the
outcome
of
that
study
and
I
I
saw
the
news
just
today
about
an
officer
from
Williston
who's
been
permanently
banned
from
certification,
which
tells
me
that,
as
you
mentioned,
the
Vermont
criminal
justice
council
is
working
and
when
we've
set
up
a
process
that
maybe
can
start
to
do
some
of
this
work
and
make
sure
that
we
do
have
accountability
as
well.
C
Well
and
I
I
think
we
start
I.
Think
the
first
part
of
the
question
was
addressing
crime
in
Chinden
County,
specifically,
yes,
and
so
for
that
I
say
we
leave
a
lot
of
that
in
the
very
capable
hands
of
our
our
state's
attorney.
Sarah
George
I.
Think,
and
the
answer
is
for
me
is-
is
because
yes,
there
is,
there
are
problems
with
policing
that
need
reform
and,
as
Bruce
and
Aaron
have
both
mentioned,
you
know
the
addition
of
the
Vermont
criminal
justice
council
is
important
and
they've
acted
just
this
week.
C
I
will
say
that
you
know
that
same
officer
was
also
cited
or
what
you
know.
State's
Attorney
George
had
written
a
Brady
letter
naming
that
officer
and
saying
that
you
know
she
would
no
longer
accept
testimony
from
him
because
of
incidences
and
this
this
all
the
result
this
week
bears
that
out.
She
was
right
and
so
I
I
think
that
you
address
Criminal
Justice
Reform.
C
In
the
same
way,
I've
been
talking
about
addressing
so
many
of
our
issues
and
and
concerns
which
is
holistically
and,
as
Aaron
just
said,
you
have
to
look
at
the
underlying
and
contributing
factors
which
will
include,
as
you
know,
housing,
availability
of
guns,
mental
health
issues,
substance
misuse
issues
and
as
to
the
use
of
restorative
practices.
I'm
a
volunteer
with
the
Wilson
Community,
Justice,
Center
and
I
believe
wholeheartedly
in
the
power
of
restorative
justice
and
I
will
rebut
a
little
bit
perhaps
of
what
Bruce
was
saying
that
criminals
are
not
victims.
C
Very
often,
people
who
perpetrate
crimes
have
been
victims
of
some
of
something
they're.
You
know
you
can
take
the
incident
that
you're
talking
about
and
say
they're,
not
the
victim,
but
they
are
often
you
know,
experiencing
challenges
and
and
trouble
if
you
will,
that
are
largely
in
some
ways
out
of
their
control
and
have
to
do
with
these
underlying
issues
that
I'm
talking
about.
So
it's
all
a
big
picture
thing
and
I
think
it's
important
to
approach
it
all
with
compassion
for
everyone
involved
right.
Thank.
E
You
so
let
me
respond,
I
mean
I
I,
understand
what
you're
saying,
though
I
think
we
spend
too
much
emphasis
on
relieving
the
criminal
of
his
responsibilities.
Sir,
anybody
had
a
bad
life
he
may
have
been.
You
know
who
knows
what
went
on
in
his
life,
but
let's
solved
that
problem
versus
making
it
a
problem
that
we
have
to
reform
the
police
system.
We
have
to
reform
judicial
practice.
Let's
solve
the
problem
of
the
stress
and
strain
that's
going
on
people,
but
they
feel
the
need
yeah.
C
E
A
D
Well,
first
of
all,
the
men
and
women
of
law
enforcement
are
have
an
immense
amount
of
responsibility
and
stress
to
protect
and
serve,
and
when
that's
violated,
they
have
to
be
held
accountable.
They
have
to
be
held
accountable
on
a
higher
level,
then
the
the
average
citizens
does.
That
being
said,
there
seems
to
be
a
movement
to
categorically
condemn
people
of
law
enforcement.
In
some
cases,
it's
resulting
in
less
people
wanting
to
get
into
that
as
a
vocation.
D
They,
the
stress
level,
is
higher
than
it's
ever
been,
so
we
we
have
to
hold
them
accountable,
and
we
know
that
we
we
know
that
we've
seen
bad
instances
of
of
law
enforcement,
so
we
also
have
to
provide
training,
and
that
includes
Mental
Health
Training
I
mean
what
job
is
more
stressful
than
that
I
I,
honestly,
outside
of
being
in
an
active
military
situation,
I
can't
think
of
a
single
one.
That's
more
stressful
than
that,
so
we
owe
them
a
lot
of
gratitude
and
we
also.
D
Oh,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
they
have
the
tools
and
we
may
be
failing
there.
I
think.
In
some
cases
we
are,
and
that
takes
requires
money
and
it
requires
commitment
and
it
requires
some
patience.
But
the
clock
is
running
I've
been
here
25
years
25
years
ago,
I
never
heard
anyone
say
I,
don't
feel
safe
going
to
Burlington
and
unfortunately,
I
hear
that
on
almost
a
daily
basis.
That's
a
problem.
C
A
I
just
want
to
give
Angela
a
quick
chance,
or
anybody
really
a
chance
for
a
30-second
rebuttal
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
question.
Otherwise,
we'll
we'll
keep
it
rolling
all
set
to
go
all
right,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
start
back
over
with
Aaron.
First,
on
this
question
and
moving
on
to
talk
about
ballot
issues,
so
two
Constitutional
Amendments
constitutional
proposition,
two
and
proposition
5
will
be
in
front
of
Voters
this
number
this
November.
Do
you
support
or
oppose
these
propositions.
B
I
wholeheartedly
support
both
and
was
really
honored
in
my
first
session
in
the
legislature
to
be
taking
such
momentous
votes
particularly
proposition.
Five
in
terms
of
a
momentous
vote,
I
believe
deeply
that
reproductive
Health
decisions
are
between
a
woman
and
her
medical,
health
care
providers
and
team,
and
they
are
deeply
personal
decisions
and
they
are
not
government
decisions
and
the
process
by
which
we
amend
the
Constitution
is
ultimately
democracy
at
its
best
here.
This
is
the
ultimate
expression
of
democracy.
A
C
Like
Aaron
said
wholeheartedly
support
both
propositions
and
want
to
be
sure
that
voters
know
that
these
questions
will
appear
on
your
ballots
as
articles
so
proposition
five,
which
is
the
reproductive
Liberty
amendment
is
article
22..
It
is
a
an
amendment
to
the
Constitution
that
simply
affirms
and
protects
the
position
currently
held
by
the
majority
of
vermonters
that
reproductive
Health
Care
decisions
are
meant
to
be
between
the
patient
and
the
provider
and
that
there
is
no
place
for
government
interference
in
those
decisions.
C
There
is
a
concerted
misinformation
effort
afoot
if
you
will
and
I
just
want
to
say
flat
out
that
article
22
proposition
25
proposition
5,
the
reproductive
Liberty
Amendment
does
not
encourage
condone
or
otherwise
even
speak
to
late
term
abortions.
It
simply
does
not
that's
not
late
term
abortions
are
not
currently
practiced
in
Vermont
and
again.
That
is
it's
something.
That's
really
just
is
not
a
part
of
this
amendment.
C
Article
one
will
be
what
we've
just
referred
to
as
proposition
2
on
your
ballot.
It
will
be
article
one,
and
you
know,
as
I've
heard
said
before
it's
hard
to
believe
that
in
2022
we
have
the
opportunity
to
place
this
vote,
but
we
all
do
have
this
opportunity
and
I
will
be
taking
it
and
I
hope.
Everyone
else
will
vote
Yes
as
well.
A
D
Well
of
all
of
the
items
we're
going
to
discuss
today,
these
two
certainly
carry
the
most
emotional
weight.
There's
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
debating
or
denying
that
that
being
said,
proposition
two
I
think
is
probably
one
of
those
rare
instances
that's
going
to
have
just
about
Universal
support,
which
is,
is
really
encouraging
to
see
that
it's
much
needed.
It's
it's
apolitical
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It's
it's
vast
reaching
so
I
I,
fully
support
that
without
hesitation.
D
I,
think
that
is
one
of
those
rare
moments
where
you
will
see
loud
and
vigorous
Applause
for
kind
of
a
historic
moment
and
I,
don't
think
I'm
reaching
by
saying
that
proposition
five
this
year
has
seen
some
great
and
immense
changes
greats.
Not
the
right
word
immense
changes
with
the
decision
at
the
Supreme
Court
level.
D
D
I
thought
the
the
wording
in
that
was
was
quite
strong,
quite
direct
and
quite
encompassing
personally
I
feel
that
that
was
enough,
and
now
we
have
some
verbiage
in
proposition
five,
which
is
it's
a
bit
vague
and
and
I
and
I
I
know
where
it's
going.
I
understand
that.
But
what
I
my
worry
about!
That
is
not
what
it's
meant
to
do
and
to
protect
rights
and
access
to
abortion,
which
I
support.
E
Yeah
so
so
I
definitely
support
proposition
too.
You
know
the
wording
is
reasonable,
precise
everybody
can
understand
it.
It
makes
sense,
though
it's
going
to
conflict
with
Article
13
of
the
US
Constitution,
so
maybe
there's
got
to
be
something
to
fix:
Article
13
that
the
U.S
Constitution,
because
it
still
talks
about
indentured
servitude
and
that
sort
of
things,
but
but
the
reason
I,
I'm,
I,
I
support
proposition
too
because
of
the
precise
language.
Just
as
Tony
says,
proposition
five
languages
is
very
imprecise,
very
vague.
E
It's
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
unnecessary
confusion
and
impediments
to
any
ability
for
the
legislature
to
respond
to
changes
for
the
most
liberal
abortion
law
in
the
United
States
right
now.
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
take
that
voice
away
from
from
the
legislature,
I
mean
everybody's
upset,
about
Roe,
v,
Wade
being
overturned
and
but
even
Roe
v
Wade
had
a
thing.
There
says
you
have
to
protect.
The
state
has
a
responsibility
to
protect
the
child
at
a
certain
level
in
in
gestation.
E
So
I
don't
understand
that
really
the
personal
reproductive
autonomy
term
I
think
that's
going
to
be
debated
for
for
a
long
time
and
it's
going
to
cause
confusion
and
I.
Don't
I,
look
at
the
rest
of
New
England,
the
rest
of
New
England,
abortion,
abortion
or
laws
and
all
six
of
our
neighboring
states.
Abortions
are
legal
up
to
either
a
viability
or
some
time
limit.
Vermont
we
don't
have
we
allow
abortions
up
until
the
time
of
of
birth.
E
B
Would
you
like
to
respond
yeah?
Thank
you.
So
much
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
one,
for
you
know
for
us
to
all
be
crystal
clear
on,
and
there
are
perhaps
more
than
some
of
the
other
issues.
Some
differences
among
us
and
again
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear:
I,
absolutely
support
proposition
5
and
article
22
and
reproductive
autonomy,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
in
terms
of
our
policies
and
practices
here
in
Vermont.
B
That
could
be
fatal
again
only
at
UVM,
under
after
the
guidance
and
deliberation
with
an
Ethics
Committee.
Would
that
ever
happen
after
21
weeks
and
six
days
in
Vermont,
and
this
Constitutional
Amendment
would
not
change
that.
So
there
is
absolutely
no
practice
in
this
state
where
abortion
is
allowed
or
performed
to
the
end
of
a
pregnancy,
and
this
would
not
change
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
chance
to
clarify.
E
Something
sure
and
let
me
jump
in
there
too,
as
well
I
mean
you
say
it
won't
be
allowed,
but
the
law
allows
it
to
happen.
The
current
law
in
the
books
of
Vermont
would
allow
it
to
have
now
somehow
there's
some
level
of
control
going
on,
whether
it's
doctors
being
reasonable
or
a
board,
that's
being
evaluated.
But
the
law
says
it's
okay
to
do
it.
E
Our
neighboring,
our
neighboring
states,
have
laws
that
say,
draw
the
limit,
draw
a
limit
and
nobody's
saying
that
you
know
you
shouldn't
have
abortions
as
the
result
of
the
things
you
just
said.
Mother's
life
is
at
risk.
The
baby
has
severe
fetal
abnormalities
that
you
know
it
just
isn't,
isn't
reasonable
nobody's
saying
that,
but
we
can't
respond
to
that.
If
it's
now
moved
to
the
courts,
you
know
just
as
the
upset
over
does
the
Court's
head
control,
Roe,
v,
Wade
and
Planned
Parenthood,
because
this
legislature
in
the
United
States
didn't
take
action.
E
We've
got
to
be
able
to
take
action
if
we
want
to
respond
to
the
will
of
the
vermonters
and
whether
it's
a
late
abortion
situation
or
whatever
I
just
think
that
law
has
to
have
a
method
for
being
being
fixed,
not
fixed.
That's
fixed
this
wrong,
word
of
being
a
reformatted
to
the
will
of
the
people
and
putting
it
in
the
court
system
as
a
realtor
proposition
22
and
put
it
in
the
Constitution.
Just
it
makes
that
difficult.
Thank.
C
Would
just
say
quickly
that
I
know
I
have
I've
talked
to
other
people
who
have
concerns
about
the
language
and
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
the
the
team
that
crafted
this
amendment
and
that
they
paid
very,
very
close
attention
to
the
words
they
were
choosing
and
that
reproductive
autonomy
is
actually
it
comes
from
settled
case
law.
These
terms
have
been
defined
by
case
law,
and
so
this
is
not
some.
C
D
A
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
move
on
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
question,
but
before
I
do
that
I'm
just
gonna
remind
anybody
who's
watching
at
home.
If
you'd
like
to
join
our
discussion
tonight,
please
call
in
at
802-862-3966
we
welcome
your
questions
and
I'm
sure
the
candidates
would
love
to
answer
them.
So
that
being
said,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
question,
which
is
on
language
access.
C
I
think
the
value
to
vermonters
is
a
state
living
in
a
state
with
increased
Equity
inclusion,
understanding
and
ultimately
participation.
You
know,
there's
no
question.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
more
voices
mean
more
ideas.
It
means
a
very
important
step
towards
improved
equity
in
our
state,
which
benefits
everyone.
D
Well,
it's
most
of
us
know
living
in
Vermont
we're
not
the
most
diverse
state
in
the
country.
For
years
it
was
English
and
Canadian
French
Canadian
that
was
spoken
here,
but
that
certainly
has
changed
in
the
25
years.
I've
been
here,
I've
noticed
a
lot
of
things
like
resettlement
that
are
here,
people
you
know,
especially
like
from
Bosnia,
for
example,
there's
nothing
more
frustrating
than
to
not
be
able
to
communicate,
I
think
as
a
whole.
Our
country
is
way
behind
in
being
bilingual
and
multilingual.
D
When
we
travel,
we
expect
everyone
to
speak,
English,
I,
I,
think
that's
a
bit
pompous
on
our
part.
I
was
very
excited
when
I
first
moved
to
Vermont
to
see
that
second
language
was
taught
in
elementary
schools.
At
least
it
was
25
years
ago.
We've
got
a
long
way
to
go.
I
think
there's
a
huge
opportunity
for
for
jobs
there.
We
can't,
we
can't
rely
on
Google,
translate,
which
we
all
probably
do
at
times
so
again,
picking
prioritizing
what
languages
need
the
most
attention.
D
But
yes,
you
have
to
understand
and
be
able
to
communicate,
to
get
access
to
things
that
are
available
to
you,
because
then
you
feel
more
vested
in
your
community
more
successful
and
you
tend
to
want
to
give
back
so
I
think
it
will
repay
itself
if
not
through
currency,
certainly
through
action
through
Society.
Thank.
A
E
So
so
there
certainly
is
a
lot
of
value.
An
informed
citizen
is
a
strong,
steady
Citizen
and
that's
we
want
that
and
I
know.
There's
programs
out
there
in
the
Judiciary
and
in
the
department
of
health
services
and
a
few
other
places
that
have
the
ability
for
interpreters
to
be
called
in
critical
situations
and
I
think
that's
absolutely
important.
I
think
what
we
need
to
look
at
and
and
coming
from
a
family.
E
My
mom
came
over
from
Italy
when
she
was
five
and
had
to
learn
the
language
on
her
own
and
actually
my
grandparents
never
did
I
think
we
need
to
facilitate
folks
learning.
One
of
the
things
that
I
saw
in
act.
127
was
a
focus
kind
of
on
English
as
a
secondary
language
and
I
think
that's
important.
We
need
to
do
that.
I
think
we've
got
to
get
people
to
I
mean
English
is
our
is
our
language
in
the
United
States
and
then
you
know
I
make
a
good
comment
about.
E
You
know
if
you're
bilateral
you
speak.
Bilingual
lingually
speak
two
languages.
If
you're
trying
legally
speak
three,
if
you
speak,
one
you're
American
right,
I
mean
that's
very
true
and
I
think
we
should
focus
on
the
communities.
The
the
the
communities
that
aren't
speaking
English
be
able
to
provide
them
some
sort
of
training
and
maybe
there's
location.
Maybe
it's
ESL
instructors
whatever
to
help
with
the
whole
community
and
then
it
then
it
starts
rolling
as
they
learn.
B
Access
is
tremendously
important
and
it's
critical
to
addressing
systemic
inequity.
We
want
our
systems
to
work
for
everyone.
I
vividly
remember
before
I
had
children,
I
was
a
volunteer
with
the
Vermont
Refugee
resettlement
agency
and
I
worked
with
a
family
that
had
been
resettled
in
Winooski
from
Somalia,
and
it
was
a
mom
who
had
seven
kids
and
I
would
go
over
to
work
with
her
on
English
granted.
I
only
speak
one
language,
so
I
am
I,
am
I
only
speak
one
language
and
I.
B
She
already
spoke
two
or
three
languages,
but
English
was
challenging,
and
yet
her
children
were
often
the
ones
translating
things
and
we're
learning
quickly
at
school.
So
I
think
we
absolutely
need
to
make
language
access
a
priority.
We
have
good
programs
in
our
school.
Some
of
our
schools
have
been
at
this
and
have
had
to
be
at
this
in
big
ways.
Longer
like
when
you
ski
in
Burlington
and
are
doing
a
fantastic
job
with
our
students
who
are
English
is
not
their
first
language.
B
It's
unbelievable
how
fast
students
up
languages
and
the
students
I
have
in
my
classes,
who
are?
They
are
bilingual,
trilingual,
multiple,
multiple
languages,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
increase
access
for
for
all
vermonters
is
tremendously
important,
I
believe
what
my
political
hero,
the
late
senator
of
Paul
wellstone,
said.
We
all
do
better
when
we
all
do
better.
C
Add
one
thing
to
what
to
what
Tony
was
saying
that
you
know
how
diversity
we've
we're
experiencing
increase
in
diversity
and
I?
Think
it's
possible
that
few
willistonians
know
that
in
our
school
district
in
the
Champlain
Valley
School
District
Williston
schools
actually
have
the
highest
number
of
English
language
Learners
and
there
are
dozens
and
dozens
of
languages
spoken
in
homes
all
around
Williston.
D
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
guys,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
question
here,
which
is
it
revolves
around
Community,
Access
and
we'll
start
with
Tony
for
this
one,
so
Community
Access
TV
is
currently
funded
primarily
by
cable
customers
and
revenue
for
Community
TV
is
in
Decline.
How
would
you
see
the
legislature
supporting
Community
Access
TVs,
such
as
programs,
like
this
forum,
yeah.
B
D
Thought
of
that
and
I
I
know
what
our
cable
bill
looks
like
and
I'm
thinking
boy
you
there's
some
money
left
on
the
table,
so
perhaps
some
legislation
could
be
enacted
to
direct
some
of
that
money
to
Community
Access
television.
I
also
was
thinking
that
and
had
this
conversation
with
some
musicians
during
covid
that
were
not
able
to
really
make
a
living
in
the
the
traditional
sense
of
playing
at
clubs
and
they're,
trying
to
reach
they're
doing
web
gigs
and
I
thought
boy.
Community
Access
could
be
a
great
venue
for
them.
D
Even
if
it's
a
pay-per-view
type
thing
to
give
Revenue,
it
will
expose
them
to
a
larger
audience.
So
I
think
again.
If
you
want
to
hire
me
as
your
marketing
person,
that's
that's
how
I
would
think
of
creative
ideas
like
that?
That
may
not
be
traditional
and
you
probably
I'm
sure
you're,
probably
doing
some
of
them
all
all
already,
but
that
could
kind
of
do
a
collaborative
approach
to
creating
revenue
and
entertaining
your
viewers
too.
E
I
think
a
little
different
spin
on
it.
You
know
it's
a
question
of
relevance.
I
think
you
know
in
in
the
United
States
we've
we're
used
to
getting
massaged.
You
know
censored
filtered
data
from
you
know,
news
from
the
from
cable
networks
and
whoever
and
I
think
programs
like
this
are
showing
raw,
honest
information
and
I.
Think
that's
important.
E
Be
that
as
it
may,
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
dilemma.
How
you
Market
something
like
this:
how
do
you
get
funding
for
it?
I'm
not
totally
convinced
the
legislature
is
the
place
for
it,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
a
real
value
I
mean
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
a
Walter
Cronkite
that
we
believe
in
you
know,
and
and
programs
like
this
and
again,
thank
you
for
for
doing
this.
This
is
a
great
it's
been
it's
a
great
great
experience
and
I
hope.
Lots
of
people
are
watching.
I'm
I,
don't
know.
E
E
B
I
agree
it's
important
and
it
would
be
wonderful
to
have
a
way
to
to
support
it
better.
This
is
a
great
way
for
us
to
talk
about
issues,
that's
far
more
robust
and
meaningful
than
the
money
that
we're
probably
all
going
to
spend
on
mailers
and
the
money
that
we're
trying
to
fundraise.
Quite
frankly,
so
you
know
if
we
had
a
publicly
funded
campaign
system
and
we
could
use
our
resources
for
things
like
Community
forums,
actually
talking
with
candidates,
you
know
I'd.
B
B
C
I
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
as
that
is
as
legislators,
certainly
as
parents
as
people
feel
the
ability,
the
vulnerability
to
be
able
to
say,
I,
don't
know
the
answer.
I
can
also
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
I
would
go
about
finding
an
answer.
As
a
legislator
I
would
you
know
I
think
it's
wonderful,
that
the
way
that
committees
work
in
the
legislature
and
that
you
can
call
into
your
committee
professionals,
experts.
C
You
know
people
with
lived
experience
to
to
give
you
answers,
just
as
I
did
as
I
mentioned
as
a
journalist
and
so
I
would
start
asking
questions
like
well
who
benefits
from
from
Community
TV,
and
you
know,
is
it:
how
could
you
serve
a
larger
portion
of
our
community?
What
kinds
of
services
are
you
providing
and
are
those
Services
attainable
anywhere
else?
Is
anyone
else
providing
those
services
so
I?
C
A
A
To
oh,
of
course,
my
I'm
going
to
forget
what
order
we
were
just
in
I'm
gonna.
Well,
since
it's
a
new
round
we'll
just
start
from
here,
and
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
question
on
accessibility
and
just
a
reminder,
quick,
30,
second
or
less
answers
which
is
kind
of
hard
for
some
of
these
questions,
but
the
key
takeaways,
so
accessibility,
environment,
democracy
relies
on
widespread
understanding
of
complex
issues
and
participation
by
many.
What
are
three
ways
we
might
improve:
accessibility
to
local
politics,
Aaron.
B
I
think
we've
had
some
great
Innovations
from
covet
having
a
lot
of
public
meetings
on
Zoom
has
its
disadvantages,
but
it
has
made
things
far
more
accessible
and
for
people
to
be
able
to
tune
in
people
are
busy
to
be
able
to
go
to
a
school
board.
Meeting
a
Conservation
Commission
meeting
is
really
challenging
so
for
people
to
have
that
kind
of
access
is
fantastic.
I
know
that
we're
short
on
time,
so
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
also
address
the
issue
of
accessibility
and
serving
in
the
legislature.
B
If
we
want
a
legislature
that
is
representative
of
Vermont,
we
need
to
really
think
about
that
structure
because
to
say
that
we
want
volunteers
for
five
months
of
the
year
is
going
to
lead
us
with
a
select
group
of
people
that
are
not
necessarily
going
to
be
representative
of
Vermont.
It
is
challenging
and
hard
for
folks
to
afford
to
serve
and
we
saw
a
lot
of
Young
Fathers
just
stepped
down
after
serving
in
the
past
session.
B
C
Legislature,
question
as
well,
but
I
would
say
to
improve
accessibility.
I
would
consider
three
things:
Place
process
and
privilege,
Place,
meaning
where
does
where
does
politics?
Where
do
politics
happen?
Where
are
decisions
being
made
and
I
think
about
a
lot
of
town
offices
and
how
they're
situated
next
to
or
joining
police
departments
and
that
for
some
folks,
that
is
not
a
welcoming
space?
That
is
not
a
welcoming
place.
That's
just
one
example
process.
C
I
think
that
we
often
in
politics
in
government
use
process
to
diminish
participation
in
a
way
and
to
sort
of
intimidate
people
and
I
think
that
we
could.
We
should
must
come
up
with
new
processes
that
are
more
inviting
and
inclusive
and
finally
privileged.
We
have
to
understand
how
to
you
know
right
now,
because
of
the
processes
and
systems
in
place
access
to
polish
politics
and
government,
and
you
know,
decisions
really
are
primarily
for
those
who
are
white,
those
who
are
male
and
those
who
are
wealthy,
and
we
have
to
change
that.
E
D
It's
getting
involved,
it's
Civics
classes
in
high
school
teaching,
people
that
it's
not
unattainable,
I'm
the
first
person
in
my
family
ever
do
this.
I
was
the
first
person
to
graduate
from
college.
You
know
my
I
didn't
have
a
4.0
GPA,
but
I
had
a
commitment
to
do
that,
and
I
felt
very
fortunate
to
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
checked
out.
They
feel
that
either
they
can't
I
said
before
willing
and
able.
Now
those
are
very,
very
important.
There
was
a
reference
to
a
part-time
legislature.
D
I
think
that's
there's
some
some
legs
to
that,
perhaps
being
part-time,
not
having
to
give
up
your
job
not
having
to
you
know,
maybe
you're
fortunate
to
get
a
sabbatical
and
you
can
go
back
to
your
job.
Some
people
can't
not
everybody
is
retired.
We
want
to
get
as
many
people
at
the
table
as
possible.
We
have
to
be
smart
about
that.
Absolutely
social
media
changed
that
you
can.
You
could
look
how
many
people
work
from
home.
Now
you
could
attend
a
meeting.
D
E
E
I
can
devote
myself
to
this
job,
full-time
I'm,
going
to
be
prepared,
I'm
going
to
be
on
it.
I
can
do
it
all
year
all
day.
You
know,
I'm
excited
I'm,
getting
off
the
couch
after
eight
years
of
sitting
on
it,
and
you
know
to
where
I
am
in
my
life.
This
is
something
I
can
do,
and
you
know
without
the
hardships
that
a
lot
of
folks
are
going
to
have
to
go
to
to
do
this
and
and
I
think
I
can
do
it
effectively
and
I'll
leave
it
at.
A
C
Thank
you
thank
you
to
my
fellow
candidates
and
to
CCTV
I
try
to
be
brief.
There
are
so
many
questions
that
we
didn't
get
to.
That
would
be
so
fun
to
talk
about
with
all
of
you,
so
maybe
we'll
have
another
opportunity,
but
I
will
say
that
this
is
like
that
funny
thing
where
I
guess,
I'll,
look
right
at
the
camera
and
say
I
I
do
believe
that
a
vote
for
me
to
serve
as
your
state
representative
is
a
vote
for
inclusion.
C
D
D
That
gets
me
in
trouble
with
the
far
ends
of
the
political
Spectrum
on
both
ends,
but
that's
where
I
am
I'm
a
father
of
five
I'm,
a
small
business
owner
I'm,
a
justice
of
the
peace
I'm,
a
former
Union
member
I've,
seen
the
world
from
a
lot
of
different
point
of
views
and
there's
nothing
more
important
to
me
than
making
Vermont,
vibrant
and
affordable
and
safe,
and
that
includes
the
environment
as
well.
I
work
in
an
agricultural
business.
We
talk
and
practice
and
live
sustainability.
We
understand
it.
We
have
to
do
that.
D
I
was
on
the
phone
the
other
day.
The
fires
in
Oregon
and
Washington
are
starting
again.
These
problems
are
real,
so
I'm,
one
of
the
most
apolitical
politicians.
There
are
I'm,
probably
the
worst
fundraiser
at
this
table,
not
because
I
couldn't
do
it,
because
I
understand
that
the
the
breadth
of
affordability
right
now
to
pay
your
bills
is
more
difficult
than
ever,
and
the
net
is
wider.
It's
not
just
the
stereotypical
people
that
are
struggling.
D
A
lot
of
people
are
struggling
college
tuitions
for
dual
working
families
that
are
making
a
really
good
income
is
eroding
so
there's
so
much
of
that
and
I'm
doing
this
again,
because
it's
community
service,
I,
love
going
out
and
talking
to
people
I
love
having
people
say.
Thank
you
for
getting
back
to
me.
This
is
really
important
and
and
if
I
commit
to
someone
on
something
like
fighting
to
have
military
pensions
untaxed,
then
I'm
going
to
fight
for
that.
D
If
I'm
going
to
fight
for
eliminating,
want
and
waste
with
the
fish
and
wildlife,
and
that's
the
one,
the
committee
that
I
would
most
like
to
be
on
then
I'm
going
to
fight
for
that
with
with
as
much
Vigor
and
and
tenacity
as
I,
possibly
can
so
reach
out
to
me,
ask
me
the
questions
say
hello
and
I
I
really
thank
everyone
for
the
opportunity
to
do
this.
Thank.
E
You
so
I
believe
I
have
a
unique
combination
of
experiences,
organizational
skills,
I'm
fiscally
I'm,
fiscally
conservative
and
want
to
want
to
help
everyday
vermonters
be
able
to
pay
their
bills,
and
it
was
really
structurally
I
mean
we
have
a
problem
with
that
today,
as
I
said
earlier,
I'm
used
to
making
critical,
timely
decisions
that
have
high
consequences.
That's
something
that
my
experiences
in
both
my
business
and
Military
Life
groomed
me
for
I
believe
in
studying
preparation.
E
That's
something
I'll,
always
be
ready
for
I'll,
always
be
ready
for
anything
that
comes
across
the
table
and
I
won't
be
afraid
to
voice
my
opinions.
I
I
will
not
be
hesitant
to
vote
against
the
herd,
whether
it's
the
majority
or
my
own
party
I
I'm,
going
to
vote
with
my
heart
I'm,
going
to
vote
with
my
with
my
brain
and
I've,
taken
this
step
of
of
actively
saying
I'm
not
going
to
accept
money
from
Pacs
and
I'm
not
going
to
take
endorsement
from
them.
I
don't
want
to
be
accountable
to
anybody.
B
Thank
you.
Government
is
often
reduced
to
sort
of
a
cynical
caricature
these
days,
but
that's
pretty
far
from
what
I
have
experienced
in
the
legislature
so
far,
which
was
a
largely
bipartisan
process
and
a
lot
of
collaboration
between
veteran
legislators
state
employees.
The
state
agency's
Advocates
students
policy
experts
government
is
us.
It's
the
people
we
elect
at
all
levels
to
do
the
best
they
can
in
making
decisions
for
all
of
us.
So
during
this
campaign,
I'll
continue
to
outline
my
beliefs
and
I
believe
substance.
B
Matters
I
want
Williston
to
know
where
I
stand
and
I'll
readily
answer
policy
questions
any
day.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
I
support
proposition
five
and
I
feel
strongly
about
women's
Reproductive
Rights,
and
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
get
to
it
tonight,
but
I
also
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
clear
about
my
support.
In
fact,
I'm
working
now
in
between
the
sessions
on
gun
safety,
measures
to
address
gun
violence
in
our
communities,
I'm
open
to
civil
dialogue
with
anyone
and
I
want
to
represent
all
of
Williston.
B
A
You
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
to
all
four
of
you,
Aaron
Angela,
Tony
and
Bruce,
for
joining
us
here
tonight
and
thanks
everyone
for
tuning
in
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