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00:00:00 Call to Order – Welcome
00:00:29 Agenda
00:00:53 Election of Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary
00:05:29 Public Forum
00:17:38 Consent Agenda
00:20:27 Chase Street Traffic Calming
00:59:57 Main ST & South Winooski Ave Lot - Encumbrance
01:18:01 Director’s Report
01:36:29 Commissioner Communications
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A
A
A
Right
so
third
item,
which
is
the
thing
I
pointed
out
earlier,
was
the
election
of
the
chair.
Vice,
chair
and
secretary
I
will
continue
facilitation
of
the
meeting
to
the
close
of
the
decision
on
both
of
the
chair
itself
and
then
hand
it
off
to
the
Future
chair,
so
are
in
the
election
of
the
chair
for
the
commission.
Is
there
a
motion
to
suggest
or
recommend
the
next
chair.
B
D
D
A
G
D
I
D
B
C
D
B
K
A
H
H
H
K
A
L
Yeah
so
this
is
my
name,
is
Joel
live
on
Chase
Street
police,
and
this
is
actually
just
in
general
about
the
process
of
the
Chase
Street
traffic
calming
project
Dayton.
Thanks
for
giving
us
the
time
we
had
for
those
who
don't
know,
we
had
meetings
with
Dayton
before
the
progress
was
really
kicked
off
just
to
let
them
know
our
concerns,
and
then
we
had
a
block
party
on
the
street
and
then
a
follow-up
meeting,
all
of
which
Dayton
attended
and
most.
If
not
all,
the
residents
really
appreciated
the
attention.
E
L
Care
they
felt
was
given
to
the
block
and
I
think
I
think
it
was
a
great
model
that
I'm
not
sure,
if
there's
official
plans
to
keep
meeting
with
residents
in
this
way,
but
having
a
representative
come
to
where
we
live
with
diagrams
of
project
proposals
was
just
a
fantastic
way
to
get
things
done,
so
just
in
general
I
just
like
to
voice
my
support
for
the
attention
given
to
the
community.
Thank
you.
G
M
M
Live
on
Chase
Street
at
all
the
East,
End
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
second,
what
Joel
said
and
thank
the
staff
of
DPW
for
giving
attention
to
our
street
and
allowing
us
to
all
work
together.
I
think
that's
something!
That's
really
important
is
allowing
the
people
of
the
old
eastend
neighborhood
coalition
to
you
know,
help
provide
any
data
that
we
can
and
help
just
help
with
communication
and
figuring
out
what
can
best
serve
the
people
in
the
residents
of
Chase
Street.
N
J
You
know
we
started
a
bigger
project,
called
the
the
people-powered
neighborhood
and
we've
been
you
know
about
five
years
ago
we
did
what
was
called
a
series
of
walk
audits
in
the
neighborhood
to
try
to
assess
conditions,
both
walkability
and
traffic
and
safety,
and
in
that
period
we
found
that
there
were
about
11
major
improvements
that
needed
to
be
completed.
Well.
J
The
good
news
is
that
three
three
of
those
major
improvements
have
been
completed,
but
there's
still
a
variety
of
things
to
do,
and
we
decided
did
this
year
that
we
wanted
to
take
another
look
and
reassess
five
years
later,
how
we're
doing
so.
We
are
in
the
process
of
conducting
walk
audits
throughout
the
neighborhood.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
detailed
assessment
of
the
condition
of
the
sidewalks.
The
walkability
we
set
up
observation
posts
where
we're
looking
at
intersections
we're
doing
traffic
counts,
we're
looking
at
quality
of
stops.
J
We
actually
have
a
speed
gun
and
we're
monitoring.
Speed
on
growth.
Street
I
can
report
that
less
than
five
percent
of
cars
on
Grove
Street
are
going
at
the
speed
limit
are
under.
We
are
also
having
an
online
survey
which
we're
surveying
neighborhood
residents
about
conditions.
So
it's
a
it's
a
bigger
project.
We
have
actually
received
funding
from
AARP
we're
one
of
300
National
recipients
of
a
grant
to
do
improvements.
J
Is
that
we
will
hold
Community
meetings
that
talk
about
what
are
the
what
major
improvements
that
we
should
be
focusing
on,
and
we
certainly
want
to
work
closely
with
DPW
as
we
move
forward
in
that
and
the
the
funding
that
we
have
is
available
to
help
make
some
of
these
improvements
happen,
so
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
on
some
of
those
things
and
once
again,
Dayton
and
Julia.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
involvement
with
our
neighborhood.
It's
been.
It's
been
a
pleasure.
E
F
E
The
reason
I'm
worried
is
that
this
is
just
the
reality
of
the
way
the
world
is
I,
know
I
used
to
feel
comfortable
parking
in
parking
structures,
but
I
don't
anymore
and
I'm,
not
alone.
In
that
opinion,
and
so
I
feel
when
the
surface
parking
lot
is
gone,
it
leaves
very
few
on-street
parking
places
with
unless
you
go
to
parking
garages,
and
so
that
is
going
to
actually
impact
me
going
to
the
Flynn.
E
I
am
only
going
to
go
to
one
event,
because
I
feel
like
I'm
not
going
to
really
be
able
to
find
a
place
to
park
and
I
wondered
if
the
downtown
Business
Association
had
been
contacted
about
this
impact
and
I
wasn't
sure.
I
understand
that
there's
limited
space
downtown
to
put
equipment
I
get
that
I
just
didn't
know
whether
there
had
been
any
thought
to
preserving
a
few
like
some
of
those
spaces.
E
I
didn't
know
whether
the
whole
parking
lot
needed
to
be
taken
taken
up,
I
couldn't
reach
Kelly
Devine,
but
I
really
was
hoping
that
somebody
could
reassure
me
that
there
had
been
some
thought
in
this
and
consideration
for
those
who,
like
me,
may
feel
like
they've
lost
their
only
what
they
perceived
to
be
safe
place
to
park
downtown.
So
I
just
wanted
to
call
this
to
your
attention
again.
I
know:
I
did
it
once
before,
but
you're
going
to
vote
on
it
tonight
and
I.
E
I
O
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me:
okay,
I'm
Jason's
cell
phone
I
live
on
Colchester
Ave,
I'm
part
of
the
Burlington
walk
bike,
Council
the
old
East
End
Neighborhood
Coalition,
and
been
produced
participating
in
the
pedestrian-powered
neighborhood
events,
and
so
I'd
like
to
thank
the
the
staff
on
the
you
know,
Department
of
Public
Works
for
working
with
our
neighborhood.
It
was
very
nice
to
have
them
come
out,
engage
with
us
and
come
up
with
a
solution.
O
I'm
also
very
excited
to
see
the
chicane
put
in
on
Chase
Street
to
hope,
hopefully
slow
down
the
average
speed
of
traffic
in
there,
which
is
often
very
high,
especially
you
know
actually
not.
During
rush
hour,
people
come
flying
down
there,
sometimes
and
then
during
rush
hour,
there's
people
who
are
frustrated,
so
some
calming
measures
are
much
needed
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
project.
I
didn't
know
if
I
was
going
to
be
able
to
speak
later
during
the
actual
event.
O
A
H
A
A
H
Project,
that's
that's.
The
one
I
want
to
talk
about.
Okay,
I,
don't
lie
so
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
pull
item
I.
So
the
consent
agenda
would
include
approval
of
draft
minutes
from
last
month.
The
main
street
parking
police
in
Ada
BHS
parking
agreement,
Bank
Street
time
limit,
Zone
Bachelor,
Street,
no
parking,
530,
North,
Street,
accessibility,
parking,
Change,
Main,
Street
parking
on
South,
Champlain
and
St
Paul
parking
removal
will
remain
on
the
consent
agenda.
H
A
H
F
H
P
Thank
you
Commissioners
and
thank
you
old
EastEnders
for
those
kind
words.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
this
project
forward
and
I'll
just
try
to
give
a
brief
story
about
kind
of
how
we
got
where
we
are,
what
these
plans
are
and
what
we've
heard.
So.
The
the
background,
as
you
have
in
your
memo,
is
that
in
2018
the
neighborhood
submitted
a
traffic
calming
request
and
following
procedures
in
our
traffic
home
Emanuel,
we
gather
data
on
the
street.
P
We
saw
85th
percentile
speeds
of
33
miles
an
hour
well
over
the
25
mile,
an
hour,
speed
limits
and
an
initial
effort
was
put
in
to
put
a
kind
of
a
softer
curve
at
the
Colchester
and
Chase
intersection,
but
that
initial
design,
though
you
know
possibly
beneficial,
for
reducing
pedestrian
Crossing
distances,
wasn't
well
designed
with
snow
plows
in
mind,
and
so
our
city
snow,
plows,
keeping
our
streets
clear,
made
quick
work
of
it
and
it
didn't
really
serve
its
traffic
calming
purpose.
So
this
next
round
we
went
into
multiple
meetings.
P
We've
talked
about
a
lot
of
different
designs
on
this
and
throughout
it
there
was
support
and
and
dialogue
about
the
different
types
of
traffic
calming
measures,
but
certainly
we
heard
from
the
community.
We
want
to
see
something
done
quickly.
We
want
to
see
something
done
effectively
and
through
that
compared
to
the
time
spent
to
source
and
install
speed,
bumps
or
construct
more
complicated
measures.
We
saw
this
parking
switch
in
this
decane
design
as
one
of
the
most
implementable
and
effective
designs
possible.
So
that's
why
we
have
it.
We
in
your
in
your
memos.
P
You
should
see
some
of
the
public
feedback
about
it.
We
got
an
initial
supportive
comment.
We
followed
up
by
a
Community
member
on
Rumsey
Lane.
That
pointed
out
to
us
that
this
is
a
good
idea.
We
do
need
traffic
calming,
but
really
opposed
to
the
way
the
parking
is
going
to
block
my
sight
lines
getting
in
and
out
of
Rumsey
Lane,
which
is
a
private
road.
You
know
effectively
treated
like
a
driveway
From
dpw's
perspective,
but
it
is
you
know
if
it's
seen
as
that
it
is
a
private
road.
P
P
So
what
you'll
see
in
in
your
packet
attachments
is
that
we
heard
that
comment
and
tried
to
make
some
adjustments
to
address
that.
So
the
bottom
page
here
is
the
flyer
that
went
out
to
the
street
that
we
distributed
to
all
the
neighbors
and
adjacencies,
and
you
can
see
kind
of
in
this
area
right
here.
How
the
parking
spots
as
designed
would
come
right
up
to
the
edge
of
Rumsey
Lane.
P
You
know
paint
paint
that
in
and
add
signs
to
that
effect,
saying
no
no
parking
in
those
areas.
So
just
kind
of
want
to
point
out
that
narrative
and
I
should
also
point
out
that
not
included
in
your
memos.
But
in
my
inbox,
from
DPW
planning
are
two
other
residents
of
rumsy
Lane,
expressing
the
same
concerns
about
just
having
those
sight
lines.
P
So
we
certainly
think
from
our
perspective
about
the
20-foot
depth
of
the
street
and
the
low
speeds
required
to
get
in
and
out
that
there
should
be
enough
room
to
make
those
turns,
particularly
with
the
10-foot
setbacks
that
we've
now
installed.
So
that's
the
short
story,
I'm
happy
to
go
into
any
more
detail
about
how
this
got
here
where
we
are
or
what
we've
heard
so
far.
A
So
I
think
we
want
to
add
just
one
more
element
to
this,
and
that
is
this
is
the
traffic
how
we
plan,
but
there
is
adoption
of
amendments
to
the
traffic
regulations
that
relate
to
parking
to
effectuate
this
traffic
calming
plan.
So
you
should
see
in
your
pack
and
also
the
the
structured
amendments
to
the
traffic
breaks
or
itself
so
I,
don't
know
if
you've
seen
or
unn
noted
that,
but
that
would
be
something
you
have
to
vote
on,
as
well
as
support
of
the
traffic
calming
plan.
B
I've
been
involved
with
a
lot
of
the
planning
and
so
forth.
For
this,
this
was
one
of
the
three
options
that
we
were
looking
at
this
one
as
city
transportation,
planner
Dayton
kreitz
said,
is
probably
the
easiest
to
implement
and
it
should
accomplish
the
things
that
we
hope
that
it
will
accomplish.
I
I
am
in
favor
of
it.
I
I
do
see
the
challenges
from
some
of
the
neighbors
and
I
read
through
the
packet
that
the
sight
lines
and
so
forth,
but
I
think
you've.
You've
mitigated
that
quite
well.
B
I
will
note
that
there
is
no
paint
on
the
ground
now,
and
so
that's
probably
one
of
the
challenges
to
actually
paint
in
spaces,
or
at
least
the
sight
line
areas
where
people
shouldn't
Park,
because
the
street
is
not
a
residential
parking
plan
or
Zone
area
right
now,
but
but
by
putting
in
the
no
parking
the
side
of
street
and
so
forth
from
side
to
side,
I
think
that
it
will
solve
it.
So
right
now,
I
think
it's
it's
doable.
C
C
I'd,
say
the
question
I
had
you
know
in
in
the
purpose
and
need
statement
of
in
our
in
our
packets
here
it
says
that
in
the
plan
BTV
walk
bike,
master
plan
that
chase
street
is
listed
as
a
ideal
20
mile
per
hour,
Street
and
I
guess
I'm
wondering
if
that's
sort
of
recommended
in
the
plan.
Why
that
wasn't
part
of
this
proposal?
That
sort
of
seems
like
low-hanging
fruit
to
me.
C
E
P
The
other
thing
I
point
out
too
that
I
think
if
you
look
at
plan,
btb
walk
by
in
the
20
mile
per
hour
zone.
So
there
are
these
sort
of
these
larger
challenges
about
within
the
state
of
Vermont
setting
speed
limits
that
low,
but
our
intent
at
DPW
is
I.
Think
when
we
look
at
these
slow
zones
and
these
slow
streets
to
design
the
streets
for
20
miles
an
hour.
Okay,.
P
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
all
that
context
very
helpful,
and
then
the
other
thing
you
know
this
is
sort
of
a
new
configuration
to
me
as
I'm.
Trying
to
you
know,
picture
it
as
someone
who
bikes
everywhere
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
can
sort
of
speak
to
how
like
a
bicyclist
is
supposed
to
navigate
in
and
out
like
of
parked
cars
I'm.
C
P
Effect,
in
effect,
you
have
the
same
room
now
on
the
street,
with
parking
all
along
one
side
as
you'll
have
when
this
parking
changes.
It's
just
that
the
actual
alignment
of
the
street
will
adjust,
but
in
effect
you
anywhere
anywhere
on
the
street.
At
the
narrowest
point,
you
have
a
10-foot
parking
stall.
I
P
I
A
So
whether
it
be
a
car
or
a
bike,
it
should
be
fault
they
generally
practice.
People
should
be
following
navigating
those
terrain
at
that
speed.
Now,
if
people
speed
and
exceed
that,
then
obviously
the
taper
may
be
too
short,
but
that's
the
idea
of
the
geometry
is
that
to
force
the
hand
of
people
to
travel
at
that
speed.
C
F
My
actual
question
concerns
the
language
in
the
code
of
ordinance
in
various
places,
there's
distances
and
headings,
so
it's
like
somewhere
272
feet,
north
east
of
Colchester
Avenue.
To
give
an
example,
there's
a
few
of
those
in
there
is
that
common
in
our
code
of
ordinance,
currently
where
parking
is
allowed
to
a
certain
you
know,
distance
and
also
Compass
heading,
like
does
Northeast
mean
out
of
you,
know,
45
degrees
on
a
compass
right
like
Northeast
and
like
is
this.
Is
this
common
language?
In
our
instances
now,
yeah.
A
Because
I
guess
what
it
comes
down
to
you've
got
to
have
some
way
of
spatially
referencing
a
beginning
and
any
point
within
a
street
segment
on
what
side
of
the
street.
So
this
is
the
common
language
that
we
use
to
explain
where
those
key
points
are
where
Milestones,
where
begins
and
where
it
ends
so.
A
Is
very
normal,
sometimes
it's
more
of
a
challenge
for
streets
that
aren't
directly
clearly
North
or
Easter.
You
know
east
or
west,
or
north
or
south,
but
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
We
try
to
have
reference
these
based
on
those
spatial
references
and
not
things
like
a
tree
or
a
hydrant
that
can
move
or
any
of
those
things.
It's
it's
curb
line.
Curb
line
does
not
normally
change
all.
A
F
A
B
P
Taper
yeah,
so,
for
instance,
if
there
are
no
Cars
where
this
new
parking
is
Shifting.
If
you
look
at
your
packages,
little
pink
triangles
that
we're
illustrating
that
is
going
to
be
paint
on
the
ground
with
a
decorative
planter
in
the
center
of
it
that
that's
going
to
really
Mark
the
edges
of
where
that
parking
is
so
even
without
a
car
or
two
at
those
front
or
ends
of
the
front
or
ends
of
those
chicanes.
They'll
still
be
visible
to
drivers
on
the
street
that
the
road
shifts.
B
And
I
I
would
just
add
that
I
don't
know
how
many
years
ago
it
was
that
we
took
parking
off
Colchester,
Avenue
and
all
of
those
cars
are
now
coming
onto
Chase,
Street
and
some
onto
Barrett
Street,
and
that's
just
where
the
parking
got
displaced
for
the
bike
lane.
The
optical
climbing
bike
lane
so
I
living
there.
I
can
tell
you
that
it
is
used.
There's
not
a
lot
of
empty
spaces
on
the
street.
F
I
D
D
B
P
B
D
D
P
That's
very
much
part
of
making
the
magnitude
of
impact.
We
hope
it
does
or
anywhere
we
put
these
measures
in,
and
one
of
the
reasons
this
measure
in
front
of
you
is
that
we're
going
to
build
new
curve
and
install
something
more
expensive
and
more
time
consuming
is
because
we
want
to
test
this
out
and
so
I'm
very
much
committed
to
working
with
our
team
to
anywhere
that
we
install
these
get
some
post
documents.
P
You
know
let
it
settle
and
let
people
adapt
to
the
new
traffic
pattern,
but
then
get
readings
on
it
afterwards,
because
we
might
find
out
that
chicane
is
by
far
the
best
traffic
calming
solution
we
have
in
our
toolkit,
or
we
might
not
be
our
best
solution
and
so
everywhere
in
the
city.
We're
doing
these
we're
trying
to
get
after
data
as
well
yeah.
So.
B
E
I
H
H
I
P
Know
I
think
I
can't
I,
don't
have
a
crystal
ball
to
see
exactly
when
in
our
right-of-way
team
scheduled
this.
If,
if
successful,
this
would
go
forward,
but
assuming
it
went
forward,
you
know
within
within
this
this
season,
before
snowfall,
I'd
want
to
let
sort
of
the
spring
come
and
go
and
then
put
it
into
our
traffic
counts
sort
of
package
next
year
right,
so
it
would
sort
of
be
a
kind
of
a
year
of
cycle
to
get
it
in
there.
You
know
understanding
too,
that
we
have
so
many
of
these
meetings.
P
Talking
about
traffic
homing,
the
big
thing
to
fit
it
in
is
with
all
the
other
streets
where
we
don't
have
data
or
where
there
is.
You
know
another
Community
saying
please:
we
need
your
attention:
traffic
calming's,
a
real
issue
on
our
street
and
where
we
need
to
get
that
data
first,
so
it'll
fit
in
amongst
all
those
other
requests
and
I
would
sort
of
estimate
about
a
Year's
cycle
time
from
the
time
it's
installed
to
understanding
the
post-documented
evaluation.
Okay,.
P
P
I
P
P
H
A
So
I
think
an
important
thing
worth
noting
is
if,
as
you
know,
the
right
away
team
is
struggling
with
Staffing
and
filling
vacant
positions
and
they
have
a
lot
of
work
ahead
of
them,
not
just
within
the
tech
services
team
with
work
like
this,
but
they
also
are
doing
stormwater
work,
Water,
Resource
work
and
so
they're
in
recycling
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
they're
kind
of
taxed,
and
so
so
there's
no
one
answer
to.
When
could
we
do
it?
A
Sometimes
we
reach
to
a
contractor
to
do
it,
depending
if
funding
resources
available
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
the
most
financially
effective
way.
But
you
know
it's
either
time
or
money
in
this
case,
we'd
like
to
obviously
we'd
like
to
have
this
happen
sooner
than
later,
but
sometimes
it's
it's
it's
a
hard
Choice,
whether
we
have
staff
in-house
or
we
can
afford
to
have
a
say,
a
contractor
do
the
same
kind
of
work.
But
those
are
the
options
we
weigh
when
we
try
to
get
these
things
moving.
H
That
that
paint
on
the
ground
in
signage,
for
that
is
so
important,
I
mean
I'm
thinking
of
Brooks
Avenue,
where
there
are
some
signs
where
you
know
this.
This
is
a
one
spot
space
and
they
do
do
paint
on
the
ground
just
because
there
there's
always
driveway
encroachment
and
creeping,
and
for
for
something
that
residents
commented
on
and
with
as
if
when.
H
P
A
P
A
P
N
My
name
is
Mark
Rosenberg.
This
is
my
first
time
participating
in
a
public
forum,
so
I
appreciate
the
commission
and
thank
you
for
allowing
the
space
and
this
opportunity
I,
don't
want
to
mince
my
words,
so
I
hope
you
don't
mind.
I've
just
prepared
a
brief
statement
to
read
out
loud
to
you
guys
and
appreciate
your
time.
Hearing
me
out
I,
along
with
my
wife,
who's.
N
Two
rows
behind
me:
live
at
37,
T,
Street,
we've
owned
our
home
and
lived
there
full
time
for
three
plus
years
and
counting,
and
we
love
the
neighborhood
and
we
hope
to
live
there
for
many
years
to
come.
We're
strong
proponents
of
traffic
calming
measures
on
our
street.
Let
me
make
that
very
clear
and
we
thank
and
appreciate
everyone
in
this
room
and
Beyond
from
the
meeting
who've
come
together
and
helped
bring
this
to
the
Forefront.
It's
certainly
something
that
needs
to
be
done.
N
N
To
better
illustrate
this,
you
have
some
resources
in
front
of
you
that
I
just
passed
out
page
one
shows
the
Google
Maps
overlay
the
naval,
the
neighborhood
I've
highlighted
rumsy
Lane,
along
with
the
associated
homes.
As
you'll
see,
there
are
a
total
of
four
single-family
homes
on
the
lane.
There
are
also
three
apartment
buildings,
totaling
23
bedrooms
by
my
estimate
that
accounts
for
about
30
residents
of
Rumsey
Lane,
who
are
not
represented
here
tonight.
N
People
who
reside
here,
people
who
rely
on
safe
entry
and
exit
of
their
Street
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that,
yes,
we
recognize
rumsy
Lane
is
a
private
road,
but
that
is
not
at
the
behest
of
the
majority
of
the
residents
there.
As
its
minority
ownership
from
these
apartment
buildings.
Believe
me,
we
wish
and
pray
every
day
that
it
was
a
public
Road.
In
fact,
it's
got
public
utilities
on
it.
It's
serviced
by
public
city,
Vehicles,
plows,
electric
vehicles
so
on
and
so
forth.
N
N
However,
I
would
like
to
use
the
remaining
time
to
address
my
most
serious
concern
that
moving
parking
to
the
south
side
of
the
street
on
both
sides
of
Rumsey
Lane
will
significantly
block
the
line
of
sight
to
oncoming
traffic,
thus
making
a
dangerous
and
hazardous
intersection,
and
while
I
do
appreciate,
the
10-foot
setback.
I
think
you'll
see
is
is
referenced
on
page
four
of
this
packet.
N
These
photos
here
that
you
see
they
depict
a
sequence
of
a
small
SUV
today
driving
down
the
street
also
present
is
a
single
parked
vehicle
within
the
space
of
the
proposed
parking
area
and
outside
the
bounds
of
the
10-foot
setback,
and
it's
very
clear,
the
light
the
site.
Excuse
me:
the
line
of
sight
toward
the
oncoming
traffic
is
significantly
impacted,
if
not
completely
blocked,
and
this
is
just
one
single
parked
car.
N
For
this
reason,
I
I
really
urge
the
committee
to
vote
against
the
current
iteration,
not
the
entire
plan
itself,
but
the
current
iteration
of
the
traffic
calming
proposal.
As
for
potential
steps
forward,
I
ask
you
to
consider
an
extension
of
the
public
feedback
period,
specifically
for
those
of
us
who
utilize
rumsy
Lane
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
N
Look
there
are
many
alternatives
to
achieving
the
desired
outcome,
we're
all
here
looking
to
achieve
the
same
goal.
As
you
know,
my
colleague
here
neighbor
citizen,
mentioned
earlier.
You
know.
One
of
my
parting
thoughts,
for
you
to
consider
is
that
the
proposed
parking
chicane
will
only
be
fully
effective
at
calming
traffic,
should
it
be
at
or
near
100
parking
capacity
and
why
I
know
there
have
been
some
opinions
from
those
who
have
been
on
the
street
much
longer
than
me.
N
I
would
also
like
to
say
my
opinion
is
that,
given
the
ample
amount
of
driveway
parking
on
our
street,
every
building
has
driveways
and
full
parking
lots
that
I
don't
believe
the
street
is
typically
at
100
parking
capacity
and
once
again,
I
urge
you
to
vote
against
the
current
iteration
and
in
favor
of
drafting
a
more
amenable
solution
and
a
more
permanent
solution
to
coming
traffic
on
our
street.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Just
make
one
comment
that
and
I've
I've
lived
on
the
street
almost
my
whole
entire
life
not
dead
yet
and
I've
seen
an
increase
to
parking
and
and
I
just
I'm,
not
rebutting.
The
comment,
but
I
do
agree
that
there's
a
lot
of
driveway
parking
and
area
that
people
can
park,
but
unfortunately,
it's
not
just
the
residents
of
the
street
to
park
there.
B
Now
it's
the
Colchester
Avenue
residence
and
because
it's
not
a
residential
parking
program,
Street
or
Zone
Street,
a
lot
of
the
uvmc
folks
and
even
University
of
Vermont
folks
park
down
there
and
walk
up
the
hill.
So
they
don't
have
to
buy
a
parking
permit
or
they
don't
have
to
park
at
like
Fanny
Island
and
get
bust
in
so
I.
I,
do
understand
those
those
comments,
but
I
I
just
needed
to
to
give
a
little
more
data.
F
Yeah
I'm
a
little
bad,
judging
the
I
guess
linear
distance
down
the
street
in
this
one
picture,
but
it
looks
about
about
10
feet
from
where
Ramsey
meets
Chase
Street
and
that's
yeah.
You
can't
it's
it's
a
blind
spot
like
you
can't
see
the
car
go
in
there
and
there
you
know
when
I
lived
on
the
street
right
I
sometimes
would
cross
over
that
way,
and
it
was.
It
was
predictable.
F
A
A
Very
normally
driveways
people,
Park
all
the
way
to
the
edge
I
perceive
this
as
a
driveway.
Yes,
there's
it's
more
of
a
more
than
a
normal
driveway.
One
property
is
three
properties,
but
if
we
were
to
provide
full
adequate
sight
line
for
all
driveways,
we
would
not
have
parking
on
the
street
and
that
effectively
just
doesn't
make
practical
sense
when
people
have
a
strong
need
for
parking
on
the
street.
A
So
there's
a
there's
balance
need
between
the
safety
of
people
getting
in
and
out
of
the
driveway
and
sight
lines
against
the
need
for
and
demand
for
parking,
and
so
it's
not
easy.
It's
not
easy
choices,
but
it's
not
on
normal.
It's
not
irregular
for
people
to
park
right
up
to
a
driveway
cut.
Driveway
cuts
are
usually
fairly
wider
than
the
car
space
getting
in
and
out.
So
it
really
comes
down
to
can
a
vehicle
class
that
services
that
property
get
reasonably
in
and
out.
A
So
this
gentleman
mentioned
commercial
traffic
flakes
such
as
trash
pickup
and
those
sort
of
things
this
I
think
covers
that
I
said
I
mentioned
earlier.
The
the
three
foot
thing
ordinance
that
we
adopted
because
we
had
people
encroaching
on
driveways.
All
too
often,
people
couldn't
simply
get
out
so
access
getting
in
and
out
just
a
Traverse.
Getting
in
and
out
beyond.
The
sight
line
issue
is
what
we've
tried
to
achieve,
at
least
with
DriveWise
was
three
feet,
but
we've
provisioned
something
more
here
in
response
to
this
gentleman's
concerned.
A
F
I'm
sorry
for
asking
one
one
more
kind
of
follow-up
question
there.
If
this,
if
rumsy
Lane
had
been
well
like
a
to
use
a
term
of
art,
Road
right,
like
you
know
a
road
right
like
how,
with
that
exact
geometry
of
the
intersection,
how
much
distance
should?
And
you
know
you
designed
that
that
setback
is
10.
A
A
There's
really
a
function
of
how
much
traffic
is
being
serviced
and
what
the
the
risk
and
exposure
is
in
terms
of
the
balance
of
Need
for
parking
versus
safety,
of
access
blocking
sight
lines.
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
find
many
driveways
that
are
meeting
a
sight
line
requirement
like
this
gentleman's
concerned
about.
H
P
And
they
had-
and
that
was
before
we
added
the
setbacks
and
they
didn't
have
any
concerns,
given
the
20-foot
depth
of
the
street
after
the
parking
is,
is
in
place,
so
that's
all
I
can
say
for
for
what
I've
discussed
about
emergency
vehicle
access,
but
we
discussed
that
access
specifically
to
rumsy
Lane
and
they
didn't
see
a
problem
with
it.
First
review.
A
H
I
H
A
H
D
F
A
A
H
H
A
short
presentation
would
be
would
be
great.
You
heard
the
concerns
of
counselor
bushore
about
parking.
What
other
places
I
think
one
of
her
two
of
her
comments
were
about.
Could
we
could
we
just
use
part
of
it
for
the
construction
Landing
and
then
also
just
personal
safety?
If
parking
is
moved
from
there
into
a
structured
car
park,.
Q
Yep
so,
let's
start
with
the
space
requirement.
As
a
city
engineer
mentioned,
Main
Street
is
exceptionally
constrained.
Our
downtown
is
very
constrained,
and
a
project
of
this
size
is
going
to
have
a
pretty
significant
impact.
Space
wise
and
in
all
honesty,
even
just
having
the
main
and
winuski
lots
to
be
able
to
work
from
will
be
a
significant
challenge
to
any
contractor.
Q
The
parking
lot
itself
about
half
of
it
will
not
be
safe
to
occupy.
While
we
do
the
Ravine
sewer
work,
so
the
excavation
for
the
new
sewer,
the
decommissioning
of
the
existing
sewer,
so
that
half
of
the
lot
fundamentally
is
unavailable,
while
that
work
is
a
while
that
work
is
occurring,
we're
hopeful
to
be
able
to
use
the
other
half
of
the
lot,
both
for
displaced
fire
vehicle
parking,
not
vehicle,
but
the
employee
staff
parking
so
below
the
fire
station.
There
are
three
to
seven
vehicles
at
any
given
time
that
park
there
for
staff.
Q
Q
So
during
the
initial
phases
of
the
project,
the
entire
lot
will
be
very
occupied
both
with
the
displaced
fire
parking,
two
trailers
and
likely
a
very
active
construction
zone.
The
next
part
of
it.
We
are
still
asking
that
the
lot
be
used
so
that
the
contract
could
contractor
could
then
stage
materials.
The
next
sequence
of
the
work
is
a
lot
of
water
sewer,
pipe
kind
of
work
and
to
make
that
work
happen
efficiently.
Q
Q
A
That
was
a
lot.
Maybe
the
commissionary
understands
this
through
previous
conversations,
but
maybe
the
public
does.
It
is
what
kind
of
a
process
we
arrive.
How
long
in
the
process
have
we
discussed?
How
many
times
have
we
discussed
publicly
working
in
the
business
community
and
it's
been
kind
of
evolved
over
many
conversations,
so
maybe
we
can
speak
together.
The
public
process
I
think
Sharon's
concern
was
safety
and
comfort
within
use
of
parking
garage
as
well.
So.
Q
Yes
and
we've
spoke
with
Upp
about
that-
they
have
recently
actually
been
doing
work
inside
of
that
garage
because
they
were
it's
not
a
high
occupancy
space
for
them,
mostly
for
the
similar
concerns,
so
they
have
been
indicate.
They've
indicated
that
they've
been
doing
some
lighting
work
in
there
and
there
was
something
else
in
my
apologies:
it's
not
coming
to
the
front
of
my
mind
what
else
that
they
were
working
on,
but
lighting
was
definitely
one
of
them.
Q
It
might
have
been
the
cleanliness,
but
that
was
something
that
we've
been
working
on,
but
to
speak
to
the
Outreach.
You
know:
we've
met
with
probably
about
half
the
businesses
on
the
corridor
at
this
point
in
time
face
to
face
another
handful
of
property
owners.
We've
had
business
meetings
and
most
people
are
certainly
concerned
about
the
flow
of
traffic
and
people
just
even
being
willing
to
drive
past
main
Street's
construction
coming
in
through
the
construction
zone.
As
we
can
obviously
look
outside.
You
know
that's
intimidating
for
some
folks.
Q
The
second
is,
obviously:
where
are
they
going
to
park?
You
guys
passed
a
few
items
tonight
that
help
with
some
side
street
parking
capacity
at
your
May
meeting.
You
also
parked
some
or
passed
some
additional
parking
that
happens
up
the
street
on
the
union
to
Willard
block,
so
there's
those
opportunities
already
and
so
we're
hopeful
with
those
additional
on-street
opportunities.
Q
F
P
Q
This
viable,
the
other
alternatives,
are
a
few
blocks
away
and
staging
at
the
waterfront.
After
everything,
that's
happened.
Construction
wise
down
there
doesn't
seem
like
the
most
economic
leave,
viable
choice
for
our
community,
leaving
the
Waterfront
restored
and
un,
not
under
construction,
while
main
Street's
under
construction
is
going
to
be
one
of
I.
Think
our
marketable
factors.
Q
F
G
B
You
kind
of
mentioned
that
Upp
was
looking
at
some
improvements
for
the
courthouse
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I've
always
wanted
to
see.
A
little
brighter
I
mean
sometimes
I've
gone
in
there,
and
the
The
Vines
are
are
growing
on
itsy
I
feel
like
I'm,
going
into
the
secret
garden
or
something,
but
it's
it's
dark
and
dank
in
there
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
folks,
Sharon
included,
are
not
excited
about
using
that,
so
anything
they
can
do
to
improve.
C
H
H
It's
if
we
think
about
our
most
vulnerable
users
and
think
about
making
things
safe
for
them.
It
becomes
safe
for
all
of
us.
So
when
we
look
at
the
lighting
and
when
we
speak
to
whatever
car
park,
company
or
land
owner,
if
you
think
about
your
child-
and
you
think
about
your
aging
parent
and
work
towards
I-
think
that
level
of
safety,
but
then
I
think
we're
doing
a
good
job
and
actually
making
sure
that
that
lighting
is.
Is
there
that
there
are
parking
ambassadors
I
know
we
have
those
in
City
Lots?
H
I
think,
as
commissioner
Fox
pointed
out,
the
signage
and
wayfinding
is
going
to
be
super
important
I'm,
imagining
coming
down
Main
Street
and
you
know,
finally,
as
a
cyclist
I,
feel
like
great
I,
can
go
into
Main
Street
and
turn
right
onto
North,
Winooski,
Avenue
and
now
thinking,
oh
as
a
cyclist,
I,
don't
even
know
where
I'm
gonna
go
as
a
visitor
to
the
city
that
that
feeling
of
oh
I
have
to
get
through
this.
What's
the
what's
through
it.
H
But
if
we
keep
that
at
the
fore
of
we
have
this
construction,
we're
dealing
with
the
Ravine
and
I
did
look
at
a
map
and
was
trying
to
find
any
other
possible
space
and
where
I
found
space
I
was
like.
Oh
right,
there
is
by
the
old
the
hood
plant.
The
milk
plant
and
I
was
like
oh
right,
because
the
Ravine
goes
under
there
too.
So
couple
of
them.
It's.
Q
H
So
the
the
challenge
with
this
space
is
that
we
need
to
do
construction
there,
and
it
needs
to
be
this.
This
Landing
place
for
for
all
our
construction,
while
we're
doing
that,
we
need
to
continue
for
our
businesses,
for
our
residents
be
as
welcoming
as
possible.
So
those
are
all
comments,
not
questions.
No.
Q
Q
A
lot
of
consultation
with
our
city
attorney's
office,
the
purview
of
this
commission,
doesn't
actually
have
the
authority
to
make
kind
of
the
regulatory
choice
to
give
us
the
encumbrance
agreement.
We
still
do
need
to
go
through
the
license
committee
and,
ultimately,
the
city
council,
but
knowing
those
two
bodies,
we
would
really
appreciate
your
consideration
for
our
motion
and
your
support
as
we
pursue
this
encumbrance
of
the
parking
lot.
H
Okay,
so
I,
just
let
me
see
if
I
have
this
right
here,
so
the
vote
would
be
that
the
commission
recommend
to
the
license
committee
and
city
council.
A
temporary
approval
of
the
main
Winooski
lot
is
the
staging
area
right
during
Main
Street,
Grace
reconstruction,
be
it
a
long-term
encumbrance
permit
and
Licensing
agreement.
H
H
H
H
All
right
so
can
we
have
a
vote
on
the
commission
to
approve
and
recommend
that
the
city
council
approve
and
authorize
a
long-term
encumbrance
permit
for
use
of
the
so-called
jail
lot
as
a
stem?
Sorry,
as
a
staging
area
for
the
duration
of
the
Main
Street
Great
streets
project,
as
described
and
depicted
herein,
and
to
further
authorize
the
mayor
to
execute
a
license
agreement
with
the
occupant
outlining
the
terms
of
said
encumbrance
subject
to
review
by
the
city
attorney's
office.
F
Q
H
H
F
A
Important
if
they're
interested
to
participate
in
further
conversations,
so
as
you
may
be
aware,
this
initial
phase
of
constructions
continue.
So
you
can
see
it
out
here.
Lakeside
Avenue
is
closed,
but
the
contractor
has
a
number
of
teams
working
on
this
project
at
any
given
time
and
they're
transitioning
from
working
in
the
South
End
on
Flynn
Avenue
to
now
beginning
to
work
on
Pine
Street,
and
so
just
like
Flint
Avenue
we're
trying
to
establish
relationships
with
Butters.
A
So
they
know
and
understand
how
this
thing's
going
to
progress
and
to
mitigate
as
much
as
possible
the
impacts
to
that
construction
activity.
So
tomorrow
night
there
is
a
meeting
here
from
six
to
eight.
All
members
of
the
commissioner
welcome
we've
made
given
invites
to
members
of
Council
in
this
Ward.
A
This
is
going
to
move
very
fast,
so
you
should
expect,
within
the
next
week
or
two
contractor
transitioning
to
beginning
to
work
on
the
shared
use
path
on
the
west
side
of
Pine
Street
itself,
starting
on
the
North
End
working
South,
along
with
that
they'll,
be
doing
drainage
improvements
and
then
transitioning
to
other
elements
of
it.
But
for
now
those
are
kind
of
the
front
end
things
that
will
occur
as
they're
doing
this
shared
use
path.
Redevelopment.
A
There
are
still
rail
crossings
in
the
driveways
that
are
on
that
Western
Edge
contractors
communicated
to
us
that
they
will
not
take
the
entire
rail
Crossing
section
out
in
a
driveway
and
obstruct
driveways
they're,
going
to
cut
midsection
and
think
take
one
piece
of
that
rail
section
out
at
a
time.
So
it
allows
continued
access
to
driveways.
A
A
So
you
might
have,
you
probably
will,
if
you
may
get
see
the
news
report
of
interview
I
had
this
this
morning
with
the
WCAX
explaining
some
of
these
elements
of
those
things
as
well,
so
A
lot's,
going
on
with
the
Parkway,
but
things
are
progressing
fairly
fast
and,
as
I've
noted
before
this
product
is
anticipated
to
be
generally
complete
by
the
end
of
this
construction
season.
All
things
working
with
us
with
punchless
items.
A
A
A
Q
I
A
Our
effect
has
not
been
has
been
to
the
South,
largely
without
any
impact
to
Sears
lean,
and
until
we
start
until
we
started
doing
this
work
in
Lakeside
Avenue,
then
we
had
this
this
detour.
So
at
that
time
it
was
Officer
school
wasn't
open.
So
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
as
large
a
concern,
but
certainly
as
school
reopens
that
walking
Corridor
at
Sears.
Lane
is
an
important
piece
to
that
and
we
will
definitely
engage
in
making
sure
they
know
and
are
aware
of
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
managing
and
mitigating
that
right.
H
And
as
kids
take
the
GMT
bus
to
Center
City
for
the
y
or
other
activities
and
the
News
the
school
newsletters,
the
welcome
newsletters
to
new
students
will
generally
go
out
mid-august
orientation.
So
that
kind
of
communication
being
you
know
in
advance
of
it
before
you
have
I,
don't
know
what
how
many
kids
are
there?
You
know
300
kids
coming
in,
and
parents
in
a
panic.
A
Yeah
we
we
have
worked
very
hard
to
communicate
to
the
public
what's
going
on
through
the
project
website
having
people
sign
up,
but
there
are
weekly
updates
to
the
project
and
because
the
contractor's
so
aggressive
in
their
work.
It
is
a
serious
challenge
for
both
WSB
and
the
city
staff
to
kind
of
contain
that
work,
effort
to
mitigate
those
impacts
to
the
public.
So
we're
trying
to
find
the
right
balance
between
allowing
this
thing
to
progress,
to
progress
in
a
very
effective
efficient
way.
Well,
not
having
it
being
totally
disruptive
to
the
public.
A
A
Yeah,
so
a
perfect
example
of
that
I
think
Laura
will
probably
will
follow
this
in
her
project
as
well.
Is
you
know
you
have
your
best
laid
plan,
you
start
and
you
see
how
people
receive
that
plan
and
how
it
works
or
doesn't
work,
and
you
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
making
modifications
as
you
encounter
new
challenges
and
new
problems
that
you
didn't
originally
think
of.
As
an
example,
this
DeTour
for
Lakeside
Avenue
people
are
accessing
the
VA
and
Social
Security.
You
know
we
have
variable
message
boards.
We
have.
A
We
talk
to
the
landlord
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
people
who
have
appointments
for
me
only
go
there
once
a
month
or
once
a
quarter
or
once
a
year,
aren't
aware
of
that.
So
they
see
the
variable
Message
Board
we
added
more
signs.
In
other
words,
we
put
chloroplast
signs
like
breadcrumbs.
This
is
where
you
go
to
Social
Security.
This
is
where
you
go
to
VA
and
it
it
the
first
few
days
people
were
very
confused.
A
F
I
F
H
K
Yeah,
the
the
Water
Resources
team,
mobilized
immediately
upon
learning
about
the
break
on
July,
12th
I.
Think
everyone
here
has
gotten
the
updates.
I
know
you
can't
look
at
every
piece
of
minutia,
but
within
24
hours
tanker
trucks
were
running
24,
7
to
pump
and
haul
half
of
that
broken
Line's
waist
over
to
North
plant
for
sole
treatment
and
within
48
Hours.
A
second
contractor
was
mobilizing
to
build
a
temporary
sewer
line,
a
bypass,
Force
main
pump
from
the
Interceptor
point,
which
is
an
existing
grit
chamber
on
that
sewer
line
over
to
North
plant.
K
That's
a
mile
long
of
above
ground
sewer,
which
required
a
quick
private
easement
working
with
a
lot
of
different
property
owners
going
across
driveways
Crossings
and
luckily
a
large
stretch
that
was
relatively
unencumbered
by
houses.
But
it
was
a
really
dramatic,
I,
think
effort
and
turn
around
by
the
Water
Resources
team
and
as
of
yesterday
at
about
11
A.M,
they
were
able
to
activate
that
temporary
Force
main
to
pull
100
of
the
flows
from
the
broken
line.
K
Reroute
those
flows
to
North
plant
everything's
being
treated
upon
our
last
check,
and
today
everything
is
going
as
expected.
The
real
tests
for
that
line
will
come
when
we
get
some
kind
of
anomalous
rain
events
which
are
always
a
you
know,
a
dramatic
factor
for
our
system,
which
is
really
at
this
point.
K
K
Is
there
a
dramatically
bigger
break
than
the
one
that
they
potentially
know
about,
and
then
they
are
still
awaiting
kind
of
a
go
from
a
dive
team
to
get
underwater
to
take
a
look
at
the
pipe
which
right
now
is
residing
on
the
fact
that
the
water
levels
haven't
been
safe
or
clear
enough
to
do
that?
Interesting
to
note,
we
like
to
point
this
out
just
so.
The
public
understands
how
I
think
proactive
the
Water
Resources
team
has
been
in
maintaining
this
line.
K
We
did
have
a
dive
inspection
in
June
of
2023,
which
is
part
of
a
periodic
on-site
in
River
inspection
of
this
pipe
that
crosses
under
the
river,
and
there
were
no
issues
at
the
time,
so
we
still
expect
that
from
either
scouring
or
some
heavy
debris
running
into
this
kind
of
sewer
bed
pipe
riverbed
pipe
that
that
was
the
factor
that
likely
damaged
the
pipe
so
basically
short
term.
The
temporary
sewers
active,
short-term
there's
another
dye
test
tomorrow,
medium
term.
K
They
want
to
inspect
the
pipe
and
then
long
term
they're,
looking
at
all
options
right
now
that
could
be
on
the
table
from
short-term
repairs,
simple
sleeves
on
the
pipe
to
potentially
long-term
repairs.
That
could
make
a
more
climate
resilient
system,
whether
that's
directionally,
drilling
that
pipe
under
the
river
as
they
did
on
the
other
section
of
pipe
back
in
2006.
A
F
K
What
yeah
well
the
expert!
So
from
from
my
limited
understanding
on
the
June
2023
report,
there
were
no
absolutely
no
significant
findings
that
would
have
led
anyone
to
believe
that
there
was
a
consequence
of
failure
and
right
now
the
full
expectation-
and
this
is
before
getting
eyes
on
the
pipe
itself,
which.
K
It's
very
likely
that
the
events
you
know
all
the
rain
and
flooding
that
we
had
is
the
the
only
Factor
that's
led
to
the
damage
to
this
pipe.
There
is
another
section
of
pipe
that
runs
under
the
river
that
back
in
2006
as
I
understand
it
was
directionally
drilled
at.
Was
it
20
feet
or
am
I
making
that
up,
but
20.
A
E
C
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
things,
so
director
Spencer
has
been
a
fierce
advocate
of
bringing
Bike
Share
back
to
the
community.
I
think
that's
great
I
really
appreciate
that
support.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
department
has
a
plan
to
sort
of
communicate
with
the
public
in
some
way
about
about
the
bike
chair.
C
That's
blocking
access
right,
like
what
does
one
as
a
member
of
the
public
do
about
that,
because
the
bikes,
if
you
try
to
move
them,
they
will
alarm
at
you
and
they're.
Really
heavy
and
they're
hard
to
move
so
just
sort
of
yeah
making
sure
you
know.
Obviously
the
city
is
one
partner
in
that,
but
as
the
partner
that
has
a
big
reach,
the
most
reach
I
would
say
just
sort
of
making
sure
that
that
is
communicated
somehow
and
then
with
all
the
construction.
That's
happening
right.
C
It's
awesome,
I'm
thinking
about
Route,
Seven,
specifically
right
engineer,
Baldwin,
you
talked
about
when
changing
people's
habits
or
something
is
really
hard,
I'm
thinking
about
Willard,
Street
and
how
there
are
no
Stripes
at
the
no
parking
here
to
corner
on
a
couple
sections
of
South
Willard
people
are
getting
towed
like
crazy,
because
the
stripes
that
they're
used
to
are
not
there.
The
signs
are
right.
The
no
parking
here
to
Corner
signs
are,
but
the
stripes
are
not
there.
C
So
yeah
I,
don't
know
like
the
timeline
of
sort
of
that
project
and,
if
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
about
that,
but
just
sort
of
being
cognizant
of,
like
that's
a
change
that
people
are
not
used
to
it's
a
change
in
their
habits
when
they're
parking
stay
at
the
yeah
there.
It's
a
change
in
their
habits
for
people
who
park
there
regularly.
A
B
C
C
C
C
B
I
I
Echo,
commissioner
Fox's
comments
about
the
Bike
Share
I
I
saw
a
few
ads
and
I
was
like
Hey
when's.
The
launch
gonna
be
and
then
understood
that
it's
just
a
soft
launch
right
now
and
that's
why
it,
but
that
creates
almost
more
confusion
for
people
that
don't
know
what
it's
about
so
I
I
dug
through
I
found
some
information.
I
was
trying
to
share
it
as
best
I
can
I've
used
the
system
I
like
it
it's
expensive,
but
I
like
it.
So
I
look
forward
to
more
communication
about
that.
B
The
one
comment
that
I
had
and
we
kind
of
touched
upon
it
earlier-
was
a
about
J
Street
and
the
head
of
Chase,
Street
and
I
saw
that
they
just
painted
the
lines
again
and
the
tan
area
that
goes
out.
It's
a
little
less
than
it
was
before,
which
I
understand,
but
cars
are
still
going
over.
It
there's
still
nothing
there
blocking
them
and
and,
as
I
said,
I
I
drive
around
it.
My
wife
always
asks
what
are
you
doing?
I'm
following
the
lines?
B
B
D
K
I
think
I
can
share
as
much
background
as
as
possible.
Right
now,
which
is,
there
was
an
agreement
back
in
about
2015
between
the
city
and
the
Burlington
business
Association
to
kind
of
co-brand
and
co-manage
public-facing
parking
Communications
that
and
so
that
entailed
the
social
media.
Park
Burlington
accounts,
as
well
as
parkburlington.com
and
with
parkburlington.com
came
what
I
think
is
a
very
handy,
useful
public
parking
map
that
relationship
or
the
the
agreement
expired
as
of
about
a
year
or
so
ago.
K
So
a
couple
things
that
are
being
worked
on
on
that
front
number
one.
Overall,
the
city
website
is
looking
for,
there's
going
to
be
a
transition
and
a
refresh
of
what
seems
like
a
pretty
significant
reinvestment
in
the
city
website,
so
we're
excited
about
that
coming
within
the
next,
maybe
12
to
18
months
with
that
said,
I
think
internally,
we
are
looking
to
make
a
stronger
push
to
integrate
all
of
as
many
of
our
Communications
as
we
can
on
the
Burlington
VT
site,
especially
with
this
reinvestment
in
the
infrastructure.
K
K
D
Thank
you
for
that
that
update
I
look
forward
to
further
developments
there,
something
to
sort
of
emphasize
and
keep
in
mind
as
those
conversations
about
are
all
of
the
temporary
parking
restrictions
that
we've
been
speaking
to
in
today
tonight
and
recent
meetings
to
support
the
Main,
Street,
Great
streets,
project
and
somehow
I.
Don't
know
what
that
looks
like
from
the
communication
of
where
can
I
park
perspective,
but
in
the
as
you're
talking
about
infrastructure
and
how
this
map
can
be
kept
up
to
date
and
maintained.
D
Q
A
Q
D
F
Hey
there
I
feel
like
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
paint
and
everything
that's
on
the
roads,
but
I
think
Public
Works
is
you
know
just
as
important
right
the
actual
Road
itself
right
the
means
of
conveying
people
safely
from
one
point
to
another
and
I
still
know
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
potholes
and
the
one
I
had
mentioned
on
Lower
Church
Street
that
first
block
below
Main
Street,
it's
a
deep
pothole
like
it
it's
dangerous,
especially
for
people
that
are
on
bicycles.
You
know
if
you're
driving,
it's
could
be
anything
from.
F
A
A
One
of
the
things
that
this
that
the
tech
service
team
struggling
managing
the
roadway
surfaces
is
obviously
you
know
there
are
arterial
roads,
I
think
in
generally
good
shape.
There
are
some
areas
where
we've
had
some
patching
going
on
along.
Like
large-scale
patching
example,
you
probably
saw
a
Battery
Street
got
milled
dealing
with
the
rutting
and
the
appealing
of
asphalt
that
was
in
that
travel,
Lane
itself.
That's
a
big
boom
for
trying
to
fix
and
solve
those
problems.
A
That's
the
approved
list
as
it
as
it
exists
within
this
contract,
but
we
are
working
and
we
work
leading
up
to
the
development
of
the
capital
budget
where
we
sought
to
have
additional
money
towards
patching.
Unfortunately,
patching
these
large-scale
patching
is
really
kind
of
a
Band-Aid
to
real
long-term
Solutions
in
terms
of
getting
the
roadway
surface
back
to
its
working
condition.
A
That
makes
it
a
fully
sustainable
system,
but
as
it
is,
we
are,
we
are
very
surgically
trying
to
pick
and
choose
where
that
patching
investment
occurs
to
limit
the
amount
of
trouble
that
we'll
have
come
spring
early
late
winter
early
spring,
and
we
are
actually
at
this
stage
preparing
communication
to
council
that
will
go
in
early
August
to
seek
their
authority
to
use
the
additional
funds
of
the
half
cent
that
that
we've
talked
about
through
Laura's
sound
management,
financial
management
of
the
funds.
Within
that
Street
Capital
fund
itself.
A
A
Actually
three
of
us
went
out
and
we
marked
streets
that
were
a
big
question-
mark
I
Mark
streets-
that
are
a
big
question
mark
for
our
team
to
decide
what
we're
going
to
patch
and
we're
going
to
patch
in
there's
a
lot
of
streets
that
are
in
very
poor
shape
outside
of
our
arterial
system.
That
needs
care
and
feeding.
And
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
support
from
people.
A
We
were
walking
and
marking
these
things
to
thank
us
for
being
thoughtful
about
doing
something
because
it's
been
30
40
years
and
nothing's
happened,
I
lived
there
20
years
and
nothing's
happened,
and
so
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
the
limited
amount
of
funds
we
have.
But
a
patching
is
not
the
best
choice
and
the
more
sustainable
solution
is.
We
need
more
funds
to
be
able
to
maintain
these
systems,
but
we
recognize
the
burden
the
public
has
and
taxpayer
has
on.
A
A
Probably
I,
don't
know
260,
maybe
260
000
in
patching,
and
the
idea
is
that
those
streets
that
are
kind
of
on
the
cusp
of
being
redeveloped
come
spring,
be
less
investment
than
say
a
street
that
has
nothing
on
our
near-term
to
be
repaired,
so
that
will
probably
have
75
of
the
problem
identified,
fixed
and
repaired
within
buying
down
the
list.
The
highest
most
important
is
the
arterials
collectors
and
then
some
of
our
more
active
neighborhood
streets.
A
F
F
F
G
F
A
Least
in
our
walk,
I
think
identified
like
four
by
four
potholes
that
we're
going
to
square
that
we're
going
to
be
squared
up
and
paved
most
of
them
are
real.
Real
long
runs
they're
segments
of
the
road
that
you
could
be
150
feet
of
one
lean.
It
needs
to
be
milled
out
and
patched
because
it's
just
so
bad
and
you
and
our
crews
can't
go
out
there
without
asphalt
and
fill
that
type
of
hole,
because
it's
just
pothole
over
a
pothole
over
over
a
very
expanded
period,
open
space.
A
H
H
There
are
there's
recycling
right,
weekly
recycling.
There
are
at
least
four
different
so
now
we're
on
five
four
different
trash
haulers,
my
street.
Those
are
big
trucks
every
single
day
and
then
the
folks
who
have
the
lawn
care
services.
So
you
have
a
very
large
pickup
truck
with
a
trailer
on.
So
what
class
vehicle
is
that?
So
maybe
it's
a
medium
duty
but
I
think
of
just
on
my
street
the
impact
well
and
then
we
have
our
our
sewer
lights.
H
A
Yeah
we
know
and
understand
that
commercial
traffic
has
a
tenfold
impact
on
the
condition
of
the
road
versus
a
car.
We
know
that
it's
it's
that's
why
you
see
the
significant
reinvestment
in
arterials,
because
you're,
seeing
so
much
commercial
traffic
on
those
materials,
those
streets,
ex
deterioration
accelerates
because
of
that
part
of
the
equation
here
is
to
think
about
how
streets
are
but
were
originally
developed
and
what
kind
of
structural
subbase
it
was
gravel
versus,
say,
clay
or
silt.
A
Well,
a
lot
of
these
roads
were
built
well
before
the
thought
of
heavy
commercial
traffic
that
we
see
today
and
there's
no
way
the
city
could
afford
to
take
out
full
hog
out
box,
Cut
down
at
least
18
inches
to
develop
a
structural
soil
to
make
it
a
longer
term
sustainable
roadway.
So
what
you
have
is
you
have
pore
structure,
soil
underneath
and
you're
trying
to
pave
and
keep
it
operational.
A
Therefore,
the
cycle
of
that
street
repair
is
much
shorter
than
if
you
had
say
a
main
street,
where
the
state
came
and
ended
four
four
feet
of
gravel
structural
soil.
That
goes
all
the
way
to
frost.
Well,
that's
going
to
last
a
lot
longer
than
a
street.
That
was,
you
know
a
horse
and
buggy
street
that
never
got
anything
beyond
the
existing
soil
condition
with
more
asphalt.
H
A
H
A
A
A
So
yeah
so
anyways
there's
our
teams
are
a
few
people
have
been
out
on
the
road
operating
sweepers,
helping
other
communities,
and
so
it's
it's
been
taken
away
from
Aurora,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
be
good
good
neighbors
to
other
communities.
I
think
Chapin
was
very
happy
with
supporting
other
communities
and
they
were
very
grateful
and
appreciative.
So
I
think
please.
H
K
Don't
forget
the
other
community
yeah
we
we
did
have
that
prepared.
We
got
a
little
sidetracked,
staying
more
focused
on
what
we
were
responding
to
Once
July,
12th
hit
and
Chapin
and
I.
Actually
before
we
left
did
talk
about
making
sure
the
public
was
aware
of
no
how
we
stretched
ourselves
around
the
state
with
a
couple
of
these
activities
more
trying
to
outline.
So
that
is
certainly
on
the
table.
K
I
think
we
were
proud
to
do
that
and
then
we
got
kind
of
internally
focused
and
we,
if
I
recall,
we
actually
had
to
pull
back
some
assistance.
We
were
giving
because
our
we
needed
a
pump
that
was
going
to
go
off
to
a
different
Community.
We
needed
some
little
Water
Resources
staff
stay
in
town,
as
we
were
kind
of
prepared.