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Call to Order 00:00:00
Public Forum 00:00:59
N. Winooski Ave Parking 01:02:11
Downtown Garage Occupancy 02:28:13
Update to Whoops! Program 02:51:22
Director’s Report 03:10:53
Commissioner Communications 03:11:30
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A
A
A
In
the
room
and
on
the
phone
interested
in
speaking,
we'll
ask
you
please
to
keep
your
remarks
to
three
minutes
or
less
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
the
time
here.
Initial
flight
warning
and
that
just
in
the
interest
of
giving
everybody
space
to
to
say
their
piece,
I
could
probably
use
assistance
from
staff.
E
G
B
H
Hello,
I'm,
Michael,
Arnold
I'm,
actually
a
winusky
resident,
but
I'm
asking
you
tonight
to
can
consider
the
equity
impacts
of
Transportation.
As
you
I'll
get
the
north
whiskey
bike
lanes
and
parking
management
plan.
We
know
that
access
to
transportation
in
the
region
is
critically
important
for
economic
development
and
the
the
plurality
the
the
plurality
of
of
residents
of
the
old
North
End
actually
get
to
their
jobs
by
walking.
There's
a
lack
of
adequate
public
transportation
and
a
lack
of
safe
protected
like
infrastructure
and
I'd.
G
I
I
Yes,
due
to
local
state
and
federal
policy
decisions,
many
in
Vermont
do
not
have
a
reasonable
alternative
to
driving
to
meet
their
needs,
and
yet
the
private
automobile
remains
an
option
that
countless
families
cannot
afford.
As
the
Winooski
Avenue
parking
management
plan
clearly
shows,
there
is
a
direct
positive
correlation
between
household
income
and
car
ownership.
I
B
K
It
is
not
my
primary
means
of
transportation,
because
I
am
environmentally
motivated
and
I
enjoy
being
outside
and
engaging
with
my
community
on
my
daily
commutes,
no
matter
the
type
of
weather.
The
new
bike
Lanes
will
allow
more
folks
to
get
around
Burlington
in
a
safe
way
without
harming
others
or
their
environment.
I'm
happy
to
give
up
some
convenience
of
parking
to
allow
my
neighbor
Neighbors
to
travel
safely
on
North
vanuski
I
believe
this
change
will
enhance
our
street
and
city
for
the
better
and
I'm
excited
to
watch
it
change
as
soon
as
possible.
B
L
Everybody
I'm
also
in
favor
of
this.
The
proposed
changes
to
North
minuski
I
understand
that
local
business
owners
and
residents
may
be
upset
with
the
loss
of
40
on-street
parking
spaces,
but
I
feel
that
as
a
public
roadway,
a
pretty
major
arterial
Road
in
our
city
on
North
new
ski,
is
public
and
should
be
managed
by
the
city
in
a
way
that
best
serves
the
present
and
future
needs
of
all
residents
of
our
city.
L
Not
just
you
know
the
few
that
lived
there
parked
there,
maybe
some
of
the
commuters
that
come
in
for
work,
Are,
For,
Pleasure,
I,
believe
the
road
is
more
important
to
be
used
and
cultivated
as
a
public
resource,
a
good
for
all
residents,
and
not
just
the
few
that
have
cars,
as
other
people
have
mentioned.
For
that
reason,
I'm
in
support
of
the
proposed
changes
and
I
hope
that
that's
what
happens
tonight.
Thank
you.
M
Hey
everyone
I,
my
name
is
Colin.
I
live
in
Burlington,
so
I
read
through
some
of
the
public
comment
that
you
all
received
in
advance
of
this
meeting.
You
know
I
understand
there
was
some
opposition
to
this
project
to
remove
this
park
and
create
these
bike.
Lanes
and
concerns
about
Equity
were
cited
pretty
frequently
so
I'm
going
to
read.
Some
quotes
from
the
Winooski
Avenue
parking
management
plan,
which
addressed
all
of
this
in
pretty
extensive
detail
a
year
ago.
M
So
the
policy
recommendations
in
this
report
are
expected
to
yield
a
variety
of
benefits,
with
benefits
accruing
to
underserved
populations
in
specific
ways.
For
example,
the
Census
Data
indicate
the
following:
black
Asian
and
residents
of
multiple
races,
travel
largely
by
non-car
methods.
Residents
experiencing
lower
household
incomes,
own
fewer
Vehicles
than
households
with
higher
and
also
travel
by
sharing,
rides
walking,
biking
and
Transit.
M
The
data
implies
that
parking
management
strategies
aimed
at
supporting
multimodal
access
will
provide
a
racial
Equity
benefit.
So
there
you
go.
This
was
funded
in
part
by
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
and
the
Chittenden
County
Regional,
Planning
Commission,
so
I'd
consider
it
a
pretty
good
source
of
information.
M
M
M
What's
going
to
happen,
if
we
build
that
additional
housing
to
bring
these
people
here
and
the
only
option
they
have
is
cars
traffic's
going
to
get
worse
parking
is
going
to
get
worse.
We
need
to
build
for
the
city
we
want
in
the
future,
not
the
one
that
we
have
now.
So
that's
why
this
project
should
proceed
and,
as
a
side
note
I
know
this
has
been
in
the
works
for
a
really
long
time.
M
There
are
many
opportunities
for
the
public
to
give
comment
about
this,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
an
issue
in
itself,
but
to
see
you
know,
people
coming
out
of
the
woodwork
at
the
tail
end
of
this
process
with
bad
information.
It's
really
disappointing
to
me.
I
know
I'm
not
directing
this
toward
the
commission
here
just
to
the
public
so
proceed
with
this
plan.
You
know
this
was
called
for
in
2017
in
the
walk
bike
plan.
M
With
this
parking
management
plan,
this
was
called
for
by
the
shittin
county,
regional
Planning
Commission,
their
guidelines,
States
guidelines
and,
most
recently,
the
Federal
Transportation
decarbonation
road
map
produced
by
the
department
of
energy
Department
of
Transportation
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development.
We
know
we
got
to
get
cars
off
the
road
we
know
this
is
the
way
to
do
it.
This
is
a
very
minor
step.
Frankly,
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
this
difficult.
Thank
you.
O
Hi,
commission,
my
name
is
Dan
castrogano,
I'm
resident
of
Ward
four
I'm,
a
climate
educator,
I
care
deeply
about
biking
and
I
urge
you
to
proceed
with
the
bike
Lanes,
as
planned.
I
just
want
to
frame
the
conversation
tonight
on
the
climate
emergency.
This
is
what
I
do
for
work
and
I
help
teachers
teach
about
climate
change,
but
we
are
when
the
ipcc
report
came
out.
Last
August,
the
Secretary
General
said
we
are
on
quote
the
road
climate
hell,
so
he's
not
mincing
his
words.
O
There
is
a
report
that
came
out
in
October
2021,
saying
that
we
are
going
to
far
overshoot
what
scientists
say.
We
need
to
do
to
avoid
the
worst
effects
of
the
climate
crisis.
We're
headed
toward
2.8
degrees
celsius
instead
of
1.5
degrees,
Celsius
to
kind
of
bring
it
back
home.
I
know.
This
is
like
not
particularly
persuasive
as
a
communicator
to
talk
about
all
this
stuff,
but
to
kind
of
bring
it
back
home
a
little
bit.
January
was
the
hottest
ever
January
in
Vermont.
O
Today
we
broke
the
daily
temperature
record
for
February
15th
by
three
degrees.
It
was
57
today
the
previous
record
was
54..
I
moved
to
Vermont
and
I
want
to
go
skating
at
Star
Farm
park
with
my
son.
There's
been
like
four
days
of
skating
and
I,
like
dragging
my
son
around
in
the
bike,
trailer
and
I,
don't
ride
on
North
Winooski,
because
it's
not
safe.
O
So
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
until
it's
protected,
as
is
outlined
by
the
2017,
walk
bike
plan,
I'm
not
going
to
ride
a
North
Winooski,
we
need
this.
We
need
a
dedicated
protected
connected
Network,
so
people
can
actually
bike
and
get
to
where
they
need
to
go
so.
Take
this
step
tonight
and
show
courage,
show
leadership
and
act
faster
in
building
out
these
networks.
Thank
you.
E
P
Folks,
Jonathan
Weber
from
Ward
4
and
I
work
for
local
motion.
Speaking
in
support
of
the
north
Museum
Project
tonight,
I
also
read.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
public
comment
that
was
received,
and
you
know
this
has
been
a
challenging
and
long
process
and
it's
it's
rough
to
hear
from
you
know,
organizations
and
businesses
along
the
corridor
that
I
I
value
and
I
think
we
all
value
who
oppose
this
project,
and
you
know
it's
sad.
P
P
You
know
we
have
a
status
quo
based
around
driving
and
people
in
positions
of
authority
and
people
with
means
tend
to
enjoy
the
benefits
of
that
status
quo
and
when
it's
challenged
they
come
out
to
oppose
it.
I
think
that's
part
of
what
we're
seeing
the
data
is
indeed
pretty
clear
that,
if
anyone's
going
to
be
inconvenienced
by
this
change,
it's
folks
with
middle
and
upper
incomes
and
white
folks,
the
low-income
people
and
people
of
color
are
largely
not
the
people
who
are
reliant
on
driving
in
this
area.
P
And
we
know
that
because
the
data
in
the
parking
management
plan
which
has
been
mentioned,
this
is
census
data
and
it
it
really
is
pretty
instructive
right.
The
number
of
vehicles
per
household
tends
to
increase
with
income.
Those
making
over
50
000
are
significantly
more
likely
to
carpool
or
drive
alone
to
get
to
work.
P
Individuals
who
make
under
50
000
per
year
are
over
represented
in
the
share
of
transit
for
their
commute
trip
and
employed
residents
in
the
study,
who
are
black,
Asian
or
identify
as
multiracial
are
more
likely
to
get
to
work.
Using
carpooling,
Transit,
walking
and
biking
rather
than
driving
alone
in
a
car,
so
it
seems
pretty
clear
to
me
that,
if
anyone's
going
to
be
inconvenienced
by
this
change,
the
data
indicates
that
it's
going
to
be
white
folks,
middle
and
upper
income.
P
Q
Q
Q
Q
If
you
go
on
north
of
nusk,
you
have
today
where
there
is
a
bike
lane
that
is
permitted
for
that
road
and
mainly
the
section
from
call
it
Union
to
Pearl.
The
lane
doesn't
exist.
The
paint
disappeared
right,
it's
as
winter
has
come
along.
Clouds
have
come
along,
that's
come
on
the
inside
Lane
for
the
paint
just
disappears,
which
effectively
means
there
is
no
bike
lane
there,
and
if
anyone
has
driven
on
that
section
of
Road,
you'll
you'll
know
that
cars,
especially
visitors,
the
city,
are
unfamiliar
with
that.
Q
Q
I
have
brought
this
up
in
my
time
on
the
commission
too
and
it's
you
know,
there's
a
number
of
elements
and
it's
a
different
conversation
but
I,
remember
sitting
in
this
commission
and
hearing
at
one
time
we
had
I
forget
which
bike
lane
project
there
was
in
here
from
former
counselor
Sharon
butcher.
You
may
recall
she
was
a
frequent
visitor
of
ours
for
our
meetings
and
it
was
great
to
have
her
input,
but
she
posed
a
question
that
I
thought
was
important,
which
was
not
everybody.
Q
Can
bike
and
I
I
pondered
that
a
bit
and
and
I
thought
that
was
quite
impactful,
because
I
became
one
of
those
pieces
of
population
of
people
who
could
not
bike
in
the
summer
2021
when
I
broke,
my
wrist
couldn't
bite
a
good
year
and
a
half
off
of
my
bike
just
couldn't
do
it,
but
Sharon
I
thought
brought
up.
A
good
point
is
yeah
Timeless
record,
oh
I'm.
Sorry,
all
right,
I'll
wrap,
there's
a
lot
of
people
and
think
of
demographics,
of
people
who
can't
bike.
Q
I
have
I,
don't
see
a
transportation
plan
accommodating
this
year,
as
was
discussed
many
years
ago
when
we
had
gotten
into
this.
In
the
first
place,
there's
been
a
multi-decade
precedent
for
allowing
people
to
park
on
the
street,
so
I
just
say
this
is
a
pretty
drastic
change
and
if
we
were
to
have
protective
bike,
Lanes
it'd
be
a
different
conversation,
but,
as
is
I,
feel
like
it's
a
little
too
drastic
I
would
have
negative
consequences,
so
I
apologize
for
running
over.
Thank
you.
F
E
F
R
It
hello,
my
name,
is
Ali
hamadani
I
live
in
the
old
North
End
in
ward,
3
and
I'm
here
to
just
voice
my
support
for
this
North
Winooski
app
project,
mainly
from
the
standpoint
of
safety
myself
and
most
people
that
I've
spoken
with,
would
be
riding
their
bikes
to
enjoy
the
city
for
commuting
and
visiting
businesses.
More
often
if
they
were
protected
bike.
Lanes
I
think
this
is
a
good
step
toward
that
and
I
think
painted
lanes
are
not
enough.
R
E
S
This
neighborhood
in
addition
to
North
Street,
is
the
only
real
neighborhood
mixed-use
zoning
Corridor
in
the
city,
and
it
is
surrounded
by
residential,
medium
density,
zoning
resulting
in
one
of
the
dentist
densest
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
This
neighborhood
has
one
of
the
lowest
rates
of
car
ownership
at
1.39
per
household
and
commuting
mode
share
at
less
than
43
percent
in
the
city.
This
means
that
at
least
57
percent
of
residents
are
not
relying
on
single
occupancy
vehicles
to
get
to
work
and
many
households
don't
have
a
car
at
all
number
three.
S
According
to
census
data
for
this
neighborhood,
the
number
of
cars
that
a
household
owns
increases
with
the
household
income
and
so
lower
income
residents
have
fewer
cars
and
wealthier
ones
have
more
number.
Four
car
ownership
is
expensive.
My
experience
in
the
past
came
to
about
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
own
and
operate
a.
U
used,
Subaru
Impreza
when
meticulously,
including
hidden,
but
real
costs
like
depreciation
number.
S
Five
safety
is
frequently
stated
as
the
number
one
barrier
keeping
people
from
integrating
more
active
Transportation
like
walking
and
cycling
into
their
life
number
six
Active
Transportation
infrastructure
needs
complete
networks
to
be
usable
number,
seven.
In
nearly
all
cases,
business
patronage
stays
the
same
or
increases
when
parking
is
removed
in
favor
of
active
Transportation
infrastructure
number
eight,
there
is
only
so
much
room
in
the
city
and
a
new
infrastructure
will
have
to
in
some
ways
require
existing
infrastructure
to
be
removed.
Finally,
it
is
February
15th
and
at
55
degrees.
S
Today,
I
saw
flowers
blooming
on
my
walk.
Given
all
these
facts,
it
follows
that
removing
parking
on
North
North
Avenue
to
implement
a
new
segment
of
our
safer
cycling
Network
along
a
critical
path
of
our
city,
will
make
it
much
easier
for
non-drivers
to
access
the
businesses
and
services
in
this
neighborhood,
while
slightly
inconveniencing
drivers.
S
A
lot
more
since
Equity
is
a
Hot
Topic
on
this
issue.
Based
on
the
synthesis
of
these
facts,
the
most
Equitable
way
to
proceed
is
to
accept
that
we
must
trade,
existing
infrastructure
for
more
diverse
Transportation
options
and
make
sure
that
the
burden
of
decreasing
parking
demand
Falls
to
wealthier
Residents,
who
have
second
or
third
cars
that
can
be
removed,
not
by
excluding
non-driving
residents
from
access
to
Safe
infrastructure.
In
total,
this
project
will
expand
access
to
this
Corridor
and
second
order.
S
Economic
benefits
to
a
new
set
of
people
that
are
statistically
local
and
underserved
by
existing
infrastructure
and
actually
puts
into
motion
a
small
piece
of
real
change
that
tackles
the
climate
crisis.
Every
level
of
global
national
state
and
city
government
agrees
that
we
need
to
take
immediate
and
systemic
action
on
the
climate
crisis,
and
it
is
votes
like
this
one,
where
those
changes
actually
become
reality.
T
T
I
can
appreciate
climate
change
issues
and
everything
else
people
have
brought
up.
But
for
me
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
is
that
I
can't
go
out
for
a
quart
of
milk.
A
couple
blocks
without
worrying
about
crime.
These
days,
especially
on
a
street
like
that
for
over
10
years,
I
bike
to
work
in
South
Burlington
and
then
eight
miles
away
at
Archie's
Grill
in
Shelburne
when
I
couldn't
catch
a
bus
or
when
they
weren't
running
on
Sundays.
So
I
get
the
bike
thing.
T
Everybody
loves
making
our
climate
better.
But
for
me
it's
an
issue
of
when
I
get
home
from
work,
especially
if
it's
at
night
I
can
spend
20
to
30
minutes
trying
to
find
a
parking
place.
Typically
now
I
live
on
North
Union,
but
typically
it's
it's
about
20
to
30
minutes
to
find
a
spot,
removing
40
parking
spaces.
T
If
that's
an
accurate
number
will
force
me
to
park
further
away
and
worry
more
about
my
safety
I
can
appreciate
working
on
the
safety
of
bikers
I've
seen
you
know
the
protected
bike,
Lanes,
not
work
in
that
area.
People
mowing
down
the
the
barriers
and
everything
else,
but
I
worked
for
over
10
years
to
be
able
to
afford
a
car
and
now.
T
T
T
You
know
it
made
me
feel
like
an
adult
and,
as
I
mentioned,
I
can
respect
everything.
Everybody
said
in
support
of
this,
but
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
consider
people
like
me
who
I've
been
on
my
own
since
I
was
18..
You
know,
I
worked
hard
to
be
able
to
afford
a
car,
so
I
didn't
have
to
bike
eight
miles
to
work
on
Sunday
when
there
was
no
buses
running
and.
T
If
anything,
I
think
this
type
of
time
should
look
more
towards
supporting
local
residents
having
parking
spaces,
then
removing
them,
and
if
it
comes
to
looking
at
students
whatever
but
I
I
jumped
somebody's
car
in
front
of
my
house
and
halfway
through
it.
He
he
laughed
about
the
fact
that
he
was
a
student
and
he'd
been
out
of
town
for
a
month
and
that's
why
his
car
was
dead
and
to
me
that's
disheartening,
that
being
part
of
the
community,
that's
the
type
of
thing
I'm
dealing
with.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
your
time.
U
No
Commissioners
I'm
Chris
Ewing
of
Ward,
2.
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
this
project
and
the
bike
Lanes
on
it.
I'll
hear
I'll
State
the
obvious
that
mixing
bicycles
and
cars
is
simply
not
safe,
and
it
should
be
obvious
because,
by
default
as
a
driver,
if
there's
a
bicycle
in
front
of
you,
you
have
to
take
evasive
maneuver
by
default.
You
will
crash
into
that
Spike.
If
you
don't
do
anything
different
I
know.
U
On
the
other
side
of
the
spectrum,
we
can
have
protected
bike
Lanes
where
people
you
know
on
bikes,
feel
safe
and
you
know
get
you
get.
He
gets
people
of
all
ages
abilities
being
able
to
use
it,
but
somewhere
in
between
as
a
as
the
as
a
plan
currently
has.
It
still
is
a
huge
Improvement,
because
by
default,
a
driver
that
that
sees
a
bike
on
the
road
is
not
going
to
hit
that
cyclist
and
from
my
personal
experience
you
know
this.
V
Good
evening
Commissioners
and
thank
you
for
your
service,
Michael
Monty
I'm,
the
CEO
of
Champlain
Housing
Trust,
and
let
me
just
say
that
you
know
CHT
is
not
a
climate
denier
in
any
way
we
own
more
solar,
arrays
on
rooftops
across
Chittenden
County
than
any
other
owner.
We
actually
have
18
e-vehicles
and
their
pumps
at
all
many
of
our
properties
being
installed
right
now
we
have
two
and
we
have
one
at
the
news
Garage
in
that
building
and
one
at
the
old
North
End
Community
Center.
V
We
have
two
at
our
our
lot,
so
we
constantly
move
people
as
much
as
possible
into
e-vehicles
and
to
reduce
so
the
impact
on
the
climate.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
actually
probably
the
only
organization
that
pays
people
to
walk
a
bike
to
work,
I'm,
not
sure
if
anybody
else
does
that,
but
I
know
that
we
do
and
we
even
give
free
plus
passes
if
they
want
to
for
the
whole
time.
V
V
It's
in
control
of
these
various
organizations
and
their
use
I
would
say
that
at
this
point,
after
working
in
the
creation
of
homes
and
public
parks,
feeding
chicken
and
path
right,
Pathways
outright
Vermont
and
community
health,
centers
legal
aid
and
various
organizations,
they
have
expressed
those
concerns
to
us,
and
we
want
to
pass
that
on
to
you
as
well
and
I
think
they
have
written
to
you
as
well
and
I've
written
to
you
in
this
process.
All
along,
we
did
not
just
come
out
of
the
woodwork.
V
So
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
understand
that
there's
some
analysis
done
to
determine
the
impacts
that
this
project
has
had
on
the
people
of
color,
and
they
have
most
of
the
folks
have
talked
about
the
data
of
the
neighborhood.
First
of
all,
we
own
more
rental
housing
units
and
homeownership
units
in
that
neighborhood
than
almost
anyone
and
I
could
tell
you
that
people
have
cars.
V
Nobody
ever
asked
the
people
who
are
going
to
the
Richard
Kemp
Center.
Where
do
you
come
from
you,
people
of
color?
When
you
gather?
Will
this
impact
you?
Nobody
asked
the
people
from
the
Food
Shelf,
but
we're
not
just
coming
from
Crombie
street
but
are
coming
from
all
over
the
county.
Nobody
asked
outright
Vermont
the
only
organization
that
serves.
V
I
will
I
will
wrap
it
up.
Excuse
me,
I,
get
it
pretty
emotional
about
this,
but
those
folks
were
not
asked
and
those
organizations
are
being
desperately
impacted
by
this.
You
should
have
safety
for
bicycles,
I
write
it
too.
Really.
You
know
that,
but
with
a
motor
there
should
be
safety
for
bicycles
and
that
the
city
really
wants
to
do
something.
V
On
climate
you
just
build
80
parking
spaces
on
the
waterfront
You're
Building
boats,
putting
boats
in
the
water
there's
lots
to
do
on
climate
in
the
city,
don't
pick
on
the
old
North
End
and
the
low-income
people
who
are
there
or
the
people
who
are
low
income,
people
of
color
or
gay
people
who
are
being
served
by
the
organizations
who
have
spoken
to
you
in
their
writing.
Let
me
just
finish
that
in
my
lifetime,
I
had
a
I
I
tried
to
build
a
Transportation
Center
on
the
waterfront
to
eliminate
all
parking
on
the
waterfront.
V
F
E
W
Hello,
my
name
is
Georgie
Duram
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
tonight's
meeting
regarded
the
regarding
the
changes
to
North
Winooski
Avenue,
which
I
do
support.
However,
I
have
appreciated
listening
to
the
different
viewpoints
expressed
tonight
and
I
recognize
that
Equitable
transportation
is
a
complex
situation.
W
W
Investing
in
a
bike
lane
will
Empower
residents
of
Burlington
to
safely
navigate
the
city
without
a
car
and
will
hopefully
encourage
residents
of
neighboring
municipalities
to
use
bicycles
to
reach
the
city
infrastructure
as
it
stands,
discourages
bicyclists
and
pedestrians.
I've
spoken
to
many
people
who
have
expressed
a
desire
to
Bicycle
to
work
yet
simultaneously
acknowledge
that
they
don't
feel
safe
on
the
roads.
I
believe
a
designated
bike
lane
can
help
solve
this
problem.
W
It
may
seem
like
a
small
thing
that
benefits
a
minority
while
inconveniencing
a
majority,
but
it
is,
in
fact
a
huge
gesture
that
I
believe
would
benefit
many.
Those
already
commuting
by
bike
will
feel
safer
and
those
who
would
like
to
do
so,
but
are
fearful,
may
be
empowered
to
do
so.
There
will
be
less
traffic
noise
and
air
pollution,
and
the
road
will
be
friendlier
to
those
of
us
who
do
not
have
the
ability
to
own
cars.
W
In
fact,
in
the
2020
old
spokes
home,
an
old
North
End
Mobility
audit,
which
surveyed
a
racially
and
socioeconomically
diverse
group
of
one
residence,
27
percent
of
surveyed
households
did
not
own
a
car.
The
majority
reported
walking
or
using
the
bus
for
transportation.
6
out
of
14
youths
were
surveyed
and
reported
regularly
riding
a
bike
for
transportation,
but
sticking
to
the
sidewalk
due
to
a
fear
of
traffic
I
question
how
parking
spots
will
serve
these
people.
W
Change
is
hard
for
Generations.
We
have
prioritized
cars
to
the
point
where
we
have
systematically
devalued
anyone
who
does
not
use
a
car
or
cannot
afford.
One
I've
witnessed
this
firsthand
as
I've
walked
through
ankle,
deep
puddles
on
Burlington
sidewalks
dodged
traffic,
while
biking
on
roads
with
no
bike
lane
and
poor
signage
and
witnessed
residents
waiting
for
the
bus
at
unsheltered
and
unplowed
bus
stops.
W
However,
I
believe
the
DPW
now
has
an
opportunity
to
help
make
alternative
and
affordable
modes
of
transportation
safer
for
this
neighborhood
and
finally
bring
Equity
to
the
table
by
investing
in
this
bike,
Lane
I
believe
you
are
investing
in
people
who
have
been
perpetually
shut
out
and
inconvenienced
by
our
car
Centric
culture
I
urge
you
to
move
forward
with
this
project
and
put
actions
behind
the
words
of
your
mission
statement
to
Stuart
Burlington's
infrastructure
and
environment
by
delivering
efficient,
effective
and
Equitable
Public
Services.
Thank
you.
X
Thank
you,
I'm
Liz,
Curry
I
work
in
Ward,
3.
I
mean
I,
live
in
Ward
three
I
own
two
bikes,
an
electric
car
and
I,
used
to
work
at
Green,
Mountain,
Transit
and
deic's
transportation
division.
So
I
get
it
it's
complex.
This
isn't
about
bike
Lanes.
This
is
what
climate
Injustice
looks
like.
This
is
what
happens
when,
since
2015,
there
has
been
a
planning
process
going
on
to
bring
this
Vision
about.
X
That
has
only
included
white
middle-class
people
and
I
know
this,
because
I've
been
involved
in
this
planning
process
between
2019
and
2022
I
have
been
to
countless
meetings
about
this
issue
and
the
reason
why
is
because
I've
lived
in
the
old
North
End
for
nearly
40
years,
and
this
neighborhood,
as
Michael
Monty
described,
was
an
intentionally
invested
in
to
serve
very
poor,
low-income
people.
Over
the
years
immigrant
families
have
moved
in,
they
all
rely
on
cars.
X
There
are
multiple
opportunities
to
put
bike
infrastructure
in
I
love,
safe
biking,
infrastructure,
I've,
had
an
accident
and
gotten
a
concussion
on
a
bike.
But
this
isn't
about
me
because
I
have
privilege,
I'm
middle
class
I
can
sit
here
and
do
this.
I
can
be
participating
in
this
process.
I'm,
not
the
voice,
that's
getting
marginalized
by
this
process,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
voices
getting
marginalized
by
this
process,
and
they
have
said
that
over
and
over
to
you,
20
of
the
health
center.
Customers
are
low
income
and
people
of
color.
They
will.
X
You
are
diminishing
access
to
Social
Services
for
our
community.
That
is
what
this
policy
is
doing.
It
is
diminishing
access
to
Social
Services
among
the
people
who
need
it
the
most.
When
we
could
have
a
bike
line
on
Northwest
alert,
we
could
have
a
bike
lane
on
Elmwood.
We
have
options,
but
if
we're
going
to
use
our
power
to
put
the
burden
of
climate
changes
on
the
people
who
experience
the
greatest
harm,
then
how
different
are
we
than
any
other
white
middle-class
group
of
people
in
power?
X
How
different
not
different,
we're
just
the
same,
we're
just
repeating
the
same
behavior.
So
let's
not
do
that.
Let's
take
our
public
policy
and
look
at
the
way
we
got
here,
which
was
by
marginalizing
a
lot
of
people,
not
engaging
with
them
and,
let's
say:
wait.
We
don't
have
to
do
it
this
way.
We
can
go
and
create
an
incredibly
engaging
process
for
the
over
160
people
who
spend
the
day
there
who
may
not
live
in
the
neighborhood.
They
may
work
there.
They
may
use
Social
Services.
X
They
may
use
all
the
offices
at
294.
and
we
can
do
this
differently.
We
could
bring
the
bike
lane.
You
can
turn
left.
You
have
to
turn
you
turn
left
on
Pearl
on
Elmwood
you're,
going
to
have
a
lot
less
impact
by
removing
most
of
the
parking's
gone
on
the
east
side.
So
a
lot
of
people
who
work
downtown
park
between
Grant
and
North,
that's
all
that
needs
to
be
removed.
That
would
get
you
all
the
way
to
Riverside,
so
there
are
other
ways
to
do
this.
X
Y
Z
As
many
people
have
already
mentioned,
we
know
that
access
to
multimodal
forms
of
transportation,
like
biking
and
bike
Lanes,
is
the
most
Equitable
option.
I
want
to
remind
folks
that,
while
not
everyone
can
bike,
it
is
equally
as
true
that
not
everyone
can
drive
our
current
infrastructure
is
overwhelmingly
car
friendly,
so
this
change
would
be
minor
for
those
that
can't
bike
and
major
for
those
that
can't
drive
these
same
taxpayer-funded.
Studies
have
shown
at
this
point
multiple
times
that
implementing
bike
infrastructure
is
the
best
option
for
a
more
Equitable
community.
Z
AA
AB
Thank
you,
as
many
of
you
know,
I've
been
involved
with
this
project
for
a
very
long
time
from
the
very
beginning
and
I
want
to
urge
the
commission
not
to
remove
this.
The
on-street
parking
before
we're
able
to
identify
a
meaningful
number
of
off-street
parking
spaces
to
replace
a
meaningful
percentage
of
this
parking
spaces
that
are
going
to
be
lost.
AB
The
people
who
will
be
hurt
are
primarily
lower
income
people,
people
of
color,
immigrant
folks
who
who
own
businesses
and,
in
the
long
run
they're
likely
to
leave
because
their
lives
just
won't
work.
And
if
what
you
want
is
to
have
a
less
diverse
neighborhood
here
as
primarily
white
middle-class
people,
then
this
is
a
good
thing
to
do.
AB
If
that's
what
you
are
trying
to,
if
that's
what
your
goal
is,
then
you
don't
really
care
about
the
people
who
live
there
now
and
I
think
that
we
should
care
and
I
think
it's
Our
obligation
to
care.
If
you
do
move
forward
and
I
again,
I
hope
that
you
don't.
Will
you
try
to
assess
the
impact
on
people?
AB
Will
you
give
them
away
to
tell
you
what's
happening
in
their
lives
and
what
the
impact
is?
Will
you
help
them
figure
out
who
to
call
when
they
have
to
walk
eight
blocks
from
their
car
to
their
home,
I
I?
Think
if
we
do
move
forward,
it
is
incumbent
on
members
of
this
commission
and
members
of
the
city
council
to
really
figure
out
if
it's
going
to
work
and
what
the
impact
is
on
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
there's
a
strong
belief.
AB
F
AC
Pho
Hung,
that's
full
and
then
I'm.
Looking
at
the
parking
lot,
where
town
meeting
TV
is
and
there's
like
a
ton
of
cars
there,
and
what
really
has
me
conflicted
is
that
I
do
believe
in
our
walk
bike
plan
and
I
do
believe
in
our
Net.
Zero
goals
are
very,
very
important,
but
I
have
to
think
that
you
know.
Can
we
shift
this
over
to
a
different
street,
because
we
do
have
businesses
that
are
affected
when
they
rely
on
business?
AC
AC
That
is
my
concern
and
that's
definitely
a
concern
that
I've
been
hearing
and
I
feel
that
if
there
can
be,
the
city
finds
a
way
to
work
with
some
of
the
landlords
that
have
some
of
these
larger
parking
lots
to
say
that
they
can
be
available
to
these
businesses
on
the
weekends
or
after
certain
hours
in
the
evening.
If
you
don't
have
that
process
in
place,
when
you
promise
you
would
you
know,
try
to
make
that
happen.
AC
AD
Yeah
so
I've
been
biking
here
for
a
long
time.
I
totally
disagree
with
this
plan.
This
is
crazy
and
actually
I
would
really
like
to
be
able
to
turn
off
the
picture:
yeah,
okay,
so
you're
laughing.
Now,
commissioner,
how
can
I
turn
off
your
picture
because
you're
just
picking
your
nose
and
like
walking
away
and
drinking
and
look
at
you
now?
Okay,
so
you're,
just
patronizing
people
that
you
do
not
agree
with?
Okay,
that's
what
you
are
doing
right,
no,
okay!
Y
AE
AE
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
some
comments
now.
So
thanks
for
your
time,
everyone
I
own
Mayday
on
North
vanusky
Avenue,
live
in
Burlington.
Vermont
I
oppose
the
removal
of
the
parking
on
North
vanuski
Avenue,
the
the
parking
is
already
extremely
limited,
and
no
resolution
has
been
made
to
offset
the
parking
removal
on
North
minuski
Avenue.
AE
One
of
the
largest
complaints
I
do
receive
as
the
owner
of
the
business
I'm
on
the
floor.
Every
single
day
is
that
there
is
already
a
lack
of
parking
on
North,
minuski
Avenue,
the
old
North
End,
probably
has
the
most
independent
restaurants
in
Burlington,
I
would
say
right
now,
independently
owned
and
operated
by
people
who
live
and
work
in
Burlington.
AE
It
is
creating
a
destination
for
all
people
who
live
in
Vermont
and
in
the
old
North
End,
and
tourists
that
visit
the
removed
parking
will
cause
a
hit
to
all
of
the
businesses
in
the
old
North,
End
and
I.
Ask
that
you
deliver
on
the
resolution
to
offset
the
parking
removal
and
provide
an
off
Street
option
for
those
who
rely
on
the
parking
on
North
minusky
Avenue.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AF
AF
AF
AF
Having
accessible
parking
to
work
and
live
here,
isn't
a
luxury,
it's
a
necessity,
and
anyone
who
thinks
that
the
people
who
live
or
work
on
this
stress
of
Road
are
overly
privileged,
clearly
doesn't
live
around
here
to
the
people
who
live
nearby,
who
are
lucky
enough
to
have
a
job
also
nearby,
who
have
had
a
relatively
easy
economic
decision
to
give
up
their
car.
You
are
in
you're,
lucky
and
you're
in
the
minority.
AF
The
vast
majority
of
people
who
live
here
don't
live
in
the
same.
Don't
have
the
same
easy
option.
We
need
a
car
to
get
to
our
jobs.
We
need
to
to
make
enough
money
to
be
able
to
live
here.
North
of
new
ski
Avenue
is
not
the
lack
of
luxury
I,
wonder
how
many
of
the
Commissioners
or
city
councilors
actually
live
on
North,
University,
Avenue
and
I
wonder
how
many
who
don't
have
ever
stopped
on
their
bike
or
in
their
car,
which
they
choose
to
still
own,
but
they're.
AF
Just
trying
to
implement
plans
to
make
other
people
give
up
their
cars
have
ever
stopped
and
seen
all
the
broken
garbage
garbage.
Broken
glass
used
needles
Etc.
Have
they
ever
thought
how
many
part-time
City
cleaners,
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
already
sunk
into
this
project,
could
afford
to
hire
it's
not
just
40
spaces.
AF
Lastly,
does
anyone
remember
the
Planters
in
the
middle
of
South,
the
new
ski
Avenue
next
to
City
Market
or
the
white
dividers
on
North
Union?
How
did
those
go?
Someone
mentioned
earlier,
how
this
is?
Oh,
there's
there's
things
like
this
happen
all
the
time
and
they
just
happen,
and
then
afterwards
nobody
really
bets
an
eye
about
it.
How
do
those
go?
Those
are
all
gone
now
because
it
was
a
horrible
idea,
despite
others
best
efforts
to
stress
the
matter
to
revolve
around
race
or
climate.
AF
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
either
of
those
it's
about
the
people
who
live
and
work
here,
it
seems
apparent
to
the
people
who
live
and
work
nearby
have
a
relatively
easy
decision
just
to
give
up
a
car.
That's
not
how
it
is.
I
think
this
is
misguided.
I
think
you,
people
have
wasted
money
and
I
think
after
the
vast
majority
of
all
the
public
hearings,
all
the
public
forums
from
now
the
ones
from
last
year.
AF
AG
AG
AG
AH
N
The
2011
Burlington
Transportation
plan
listed
Winooski
as
a
bike
Corridor
that
was
in
kind
of
the
initiation
of
where
we
are
with
north
venusi
tonight
in
2017,
planned
btb
bike,
walk
envisions
and
development
of
a
fully
connected
bicycle
Network
that
appeals
to
people
of
all
ages
and
abilities.
This
connection
along
northernerski
is
a
critical
piece
in
developing
this
network.
It's
important
to
note
that
the
adoptions
of
the
transportation
plan
from
2011
and
the
2017
plan
BTV
walk
bike
demonstrate
Burlington's
residents
want
their
City
to
be
more
walkable
and
bikeable
as
a
community.
N
So
the
2018-2020
corridor
study
straight
from
the
2020
Corridor
study.
Winooski
Avenue,
is
a
gateway
to
the
city.
It
connects
diverse
land
uses
along
the
corridor
and
those
Beyond.
It
contains
seven
of
the
20
priority
intersections
for
safety
improvements
identified
in
plan
BTV
walk
bike.
Porter
also
includes
six
Vermont
agency
of
Transportation
High
crash
locations.
The
study
aimed
to
identify
ways
to
address
safety
challenges
and
maintain
a
high
level
of
multimodal
Mobility.
N
J
Great
thank
you.
One
of
the
pieces
that
was
called
out
in
the
2020
Council
resolution
that
Philip
was
just
referencing,
was
to
do
a
parking
management
Plan
before
any
of
that
parking
was
removed,
and
so
between
2020
and
2022
it
got
started
a
little
late.
Due
to
the
pandemic.
There
was
a
parking
management
advisory
committee
and
I
do
want
to
thank
a
number
of
the
people
who
are
in
the
room
and
who
spoke
tonight
who
were
participating
on
that
committee
and
who
gave
many
hours
in
service
to
this.
J
To
this
work
it
was
funded
in
large
part
by
The
Cheney
County,
Regional,
Planning
Commission
matched
by
the
city,
and
it
recommended,
in
the
end,
a
number
of
strategies,
multimodal
strategies
and
shared
parking
and
more
active
management
strategies
of
the
on-street
parking,
so
that
the
impacts
of
the
installation
of
bike
Lanes
along
the
corridor
would
be
minimized.
There
was
an
equity
evaluation
that
was
referenced
in
a
number
of
the
comments
tonight
in
the
plan
as
well.
J
So,
with
all
of
that
feedback
that
took
the
transportation
energy
utilities
committee
put
forward,
a
excuse
me
put
forward
a
resolution
that
the
council
considered
and
did
support
in
March
of
2022
advancing
the
implementation
of
the
bike.
Lanes,
however,
put
several
recommendations
in
that
resolution,
including
delaying
the
project
a
year,
providing
fifteen
thousand
dollars
of
grant
funding
to
adjacent
Community
organizations
and
businesses
engaging
katma.
The
camp.
J
We
at
Public
Works
and
thanks
to
a
number
of
other
folks,
including
City
councilors,
and
the
business
and
Workforce
Development
Department,
have
done
a
number
of
things.
Over
the
last
year,
vtrans
did
push
Paving
back
a
year.
We
did
operate
a
grant
program
thanks
to
Philip
and
many
who
canvassed
the
community
and
worked
with
businesses
and
non-profits
to
provide
those
to
stakeholders
to
help
in
this
transition.
We've
canvassed
the
street
I
think
more
than
twice
I
I
was
involved
twice.
J
We
emailed
and
called
businesses
and
organizations
on
many
fronts
to
get
input
on
various
components
of
this
work
and
to
connect
them
with
business
support
through
business
and
Workforce
Development
we've
talked
about
the
catma
support.
We
were
able,
in
discussions
with
the
Burlington
housing
authority,
to
get
them
to
commit
six
off-street
spaces
to
provide
to
the
Community
Health
Center
of
Burlington
for
some
of
their
off-street
parking
needs.
We
have
offered
conceptual
design
assistance
to
chcb
for
their
off-street
parking
evaluation.
J
They
have
worked
with
others
and
have
not
needed
our
help
to
date,
and
we
have
started
our
FY
24
budgeting
to
include
that
free,
City,
Loop
Transit
service
in
the
city's
budget
for
fy24
and
as
was
discussed
tonight,
I
have
spent
many
hours
working
with
countless
Property
Owners
on
the
quarter.
Many
are
here
tonight
exploring
the
concept
of
shared
parking.
We've
talked
about
the
six
spaces
that
BHA
is
willing
to
provide,
but
other
property
owners
and
businesses
along
the
corridor
to
date
have
not
been
ready
to
sign
up.
J
J
We
have
worked
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
would
minimize
impact
by
increasing
the
active
management
of
spaces
along
North,
Winooski
and
nine
spaces
on
the
side
streets
immediately
adjacent
to
North,
Winooski
Avenue
separate
from
your
action
tonight.
We
will
continue
to
work
on
the
shared
parking
Arrangements,
we'll
continue
to
work
with
katma
and
the
other
large
employers
on
the
corridor
to
find
Solutions
moving
forward
and
I.
N
They
will
not
be
effective
until
after
Paving
has
taken
place
after
Paving
and
striping,
so
in
closing,
I
think
it's
important
to
note,
commission
that
we
have
been
here
before
implementation
on
Colchester
Avenue
implementation
on
North
Avenue
other
various
Burlington
projects.
It
is
difficult
for
folks
to
adapt
at
first,
but
they
do
adjust
to
new
systems
and
expectations,
and
this
project
will
require
some
ongoing
monitoring.
N
We
know
that
we're
not
just
going
to
take
our
hands
off
the
wheel
and
walk
away
and
I
would
also
say,
may
require
some
adjustments,
which
we
can
also
do
we're
not
moving.
The
curb
Line
This
is
striping
and
that's
easy
to
change.
Should
we
need
to
this
project
meets
the
plans
the
city
has
adopted.
We
hope
the
commission
will
support
this.
AI
Thank
you
in
the
Short
Straw
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
has
gone
back
and
forth
and
I've
read
through
the
packet
a
couple
of
times.
We
had
a
kind
of
a
precursor
to
this
last
commission
meeting
and
I
followed
this,
but
I
like
to
do
action
on
the
ground
and
a
lot
of
times,
I'll
bike
through
there
during
the
the
nicer
days,
I'm
I
I
will
admit:
I'm,
not
a
a
bad
weather,
biker
I'm.
Only
a
fair
weather
biker,
so
I
I
tend
to
drive
down
there.
AI
So
with
with
that
in
mind,
I
I
tried
to
put
my
my
person
where
the
the
challenge
is
going
to
be
the
greatest.
So
with
with
that
I
I
would
say
that
I
think
that
I've
I've
lived
in
Burlington.
Almost
all
my
life
I'm
not
dead
yet
and
I
I
think
that
with
good
way
finding
once
we
come
up
with
those
agreements
and
I
I
assume
that
we
will
come
up
with
agreements
for
those
parking
areas,
adjacent
I
think
good
way.
Finding
will
help
help
the
situation
so.
C
Yeah,
a
lot
of
information
obviously
went
into
this
and
a
lot
of
work
by
the
department.
I
was
curious.
You
know
someone
who
spoke
it
at
public
comment
and
Phil.
You
kind
of
just
alluded
to
this
too
I
guess
I'm
wondering
what
will
DPW
do
to
kind
of
monitor
the
impacts.
Should
this
pass?
You
know
parking
counts,
that
sort
of
thing,
so
you
you
alluded
to
it,
so
not
taking
your
hands
off
the
wheel,
so
yeah.
C
N
F
N
C
Thanks
for
that,
yeah
I
will
say
such
hard
work
done
by
this
department
and
other
City
departments
to
go
out
and
can't
like
canvas.
This
neighborhood
I
met
someone
from
not
cedo,
but
the
business
the
new
business
Army
of
the
department
was
like
we
were
talking
about
this
project
and
she's
like
oh
I,
was
actually
one
of
the
people
who
went
out
to
Canvas
so
just
deeply
appreciative
of
that
Outreach
work
because
it's
not
easy
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
thank.
B
AJ
Advance
of
this
meeting,
and
with
with
with
the
intent
of
trying
to
you,
know
figure
out.
Where
are
we
where
we
need
to
go
I'm
very
sensitive
to
the
comments
about
people
who
are
trying
to
find
a
way
to
have
people
come
to
their
business,
except
the
car,
but
I
found
in
the
course
of
my
attempts
to
to
locate
a
couple
of
places
for
the
the
Dolan's
auto
folks
to
just
foot
their
vehicles.
I
discovered.
AJ
What
I
think
is
part
of
the
problem
is
that
we
we
have
a
lot
of
surface
parking
lots
if
we
don't
have
a
shortage
of
parking
space,
but
we
do
have
a
shortage
of
equity
in
its
actual
availability
and
in
the
process
of
trying
to
communicate
with
the
large
parking
lot
owners
which
I
know
director
Spencer
had
been
I
discovered.
What
covered
a
a
lack
of
interest
in
working
with
with
us
to
find
Solutions
and
to.
W
AJ
Was
very
I
was
surprised
and
concerned,
and
again,
I
really
was
just
making
an
effort.
I
I
go
to
Dolan's
to
have
my
car
picks
and
I've
been
doing
that
for
30
years.
I
live
in
the
middle
North
End
and
I
was
just
trying
to
find
a
way
for
them
to
stash
a
couple
cars
during
the
day,
their
own
car,
so
that
they
could
have
room
for
their
to
find
a
way
to
deal
with
this
particular
challenge.
AJ
For
that
I
think
that's
what
we're
we're
all
trying
to
do,
but
I
pretty
much
saw
we
came.
We
came
to
a
dead
end
with
willingness
to
participate,
and
it
was
it's
a
big
concern
to
me.
So
the
other
thing,
too,
is
I.
I
have
been
concerned
about
what
you
know
again.
Problem
with
the
the
community.
Health
center
really
needs
parking
for
their
staff
and
their
people
to
to
to
their
to
get
appointments.
AJ
So
it's
not
like
this
hasn't
been
a
continuing
challenge
for
the
community
health
center,
because
it's
not
new
so
recognizing
that
and
I
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
went
back
to
look
at
the
the
Winooski
Avenue
parking
management
plan,
because
I
thought
we
needed.
We
really
need
to
start
dealing
with
actual
data
and
statistics.
What
do
we
have
response
on
Street?
AJ
What
do
we
have
for
spots
off
Street
in
the
parking,
lots
and
and
I
actually
pulled
out
a
couple
of
pages
from
the
parking
management
study
and
the
plan
and
and
there's
plenty
of
off
street
parking?
There's
plenty
of
you
know:
there's
a
lot
of
parking
here
that
that
were
that
were
that
that's
available
and
I
I
have
provided
that
information
as
an
as
an
attachment
for
people
that
want
to
read
it.
It's
an
extract
of
the
96
shade
recommended
report,
which
we've
all
been
a
couple.
AJ
People
have
encouraged
that,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
parking
between
Riverside,
Avenue
and
I'm,
just
going
to
cite
a
couple
pieces
of
the
data
that
are
on
they've,
been
paid
40
36
to
39
of
that
report.
If
you're
looking
at
the
page
numbers
on
the
bottom
of
the
paperwork,
PDF
is
different
numbers,
but
there's
there's
on
between
Riverside
Avenue
and
Archibald.
AJ
There's
174
spaces
of
off-street
Park
doesn't
mean
that
I
can
go
park
in
one
of
those
spots.
There's
174
spaces
off
Street,
there's
on
Street
on
the
west
side,
which
were
not
taken
away.
37
space
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
22
on
the
east
side
they've
listed
in
here.
If
you
want
to
look
at
the
data
about
a
number
of
jobs
and
number
of
off-speed
parking,
the
residences
that
have
off-screen
parking,
the
numbers
are
there
46
residential
units
and
they're?
They
they
have
33
off
Street
departments
from
themselves.
AJ
So
that's
that
section.
If
you
look
at
the
parking
information
fund
between
Archibald
and
Union,
there's
on
street
there's,
there's
off
Street,
there's
249
parking
spaces
off
Street,
there's
249
parking
spaces.
These
are
in
lots
that
are
controlled,
that
are
private
parking
which
people
are
entitled
to
not
allow
anybody
else.
AJ
We
don't
have
a
parking
space
flat,
there's
on-stream
parking
on
the
west
side
of
26
parking
spaces.
The
news
18
on
the
east
side,
which
are
the
ones
that
we're
talking
about
that
are
going
to
be
for
transition
to
a
bike,
there's
72
residential
units
listed
for
between
union
and
R12
and
with
90
off
street
parking
spaces
for
about
72
residential
units.
AJ
There
is
the
number
nine
Green
Mountain
Transit
bus
that
goes
back
and
forth
from
Winooski
every
half
hour.
This
is
a
and
it
was.
It
was
mentioned
that,
because
there
is
30
minute,
every
30
minute
service
between
the
parking
deck
in
Winooski
and
the
community
health
center,
if
reasonable
parking
accommodation
could
be
provided
at
the
Winooski
parking
garage,
that's
an
option
right
now.
AJ
AJ
Half
of
their
staff
has
to
park
on
the
street
or
they
they
could
be
encouraged
to
park
in
Winooski
and
take
the
it
takes
less
than
five
minutes
to
get
from
the
women's
seat,
Mirage
to
the
drops
right
there
in
front
of
the
community
health
center.
So
it's
an
option
that
has
been
in
the
paperwork
since
a
year
ago.
That
I
haven't
heard
a
whole
lot
about.
AJ
You
know
challenging,
for
example,
lately
we
heard
about
this
large
amount
of
money
that
the
city,
the
community
health
center,
would
have
to
spend
to
build
themselves
up
a
parking
lot.
Well,
maybe-
but
you
know
it
sort
of
you
know
came
across
as
an
email
to
me
that
it
was
scary,
scaring
people
but
oh
well.
If
we
take
the
parking
off
this
community,
health
center
is
going
to
have
to
spend
half
a
million
dollars.
Bill
Department
not-
and
there
was
another
comment
about.
AJ
Fortunately,
the
moving
of
the
accessible
unit,
the
from
one
side
from
the
East
side
to
the
west
side
and
the
people
would
have
Drive
their
wheelchair
up
to
be
a
stoplighting
crossover.
The
legal
aid
office,
which
raises
their
property
from
the
community
for
the
kidney
Housing
Trust,
has
a
parking
lot,
a
large
parking
lot
to
the
side,
so
they
have
the
ability
to
provide
handcraft
parking
in
their
own
parking
lot.
AJ
So
I
will
definitely
be
supporting
this
change
and
I
have
confidence
that
the
the
Department
of
Public
Works
will
continue
to
try
to
improve
the
way
that
that
it
works
and
I
personally
will
continue
to
be
willing
to
help
with
any
effort
individually,
as
people
need
to
adjust
to
this
change,
as
I
have
done
attempted
to
do
with
the
parking
the
specialized
parking
needs
for
the
Dolan
Auto
Service.
Just
at
the
beginning.
That
I
do
know.
AK
So
the
question
tonight
before
the
clinician
is
whether
or
not
to
adopt
a
proposed
language
changes
that
would
allow
for
the
removable
parking
at
each
side
of
North
newstie
Ave.
To
me,
the
underlying
question.
We're
deciding
on
with
this
action
is
how
to
fairly
divide
public
space
for
the
public.
This
is
public
space
that
is
critical
to
the
north,
new
ski
neighborhood
to
the
residents
visitors,
Property,
Owners,
renters
employers
and
employees
across
wide
range
of
Industries
in
Central
Services.
AK
The
culmination
of
tonight
can
stem
from
multiple
places,
but,
as
alluded
to
in
the
presentation
by
staff,
the
plan
it
started
with
the
plan,
BTV
walked
by
a
document
or
sums
up
the
vision
of
approving
walking
and
biking
for
the
city.
It's
two
main
goals
are
to
create
sacred
trees
for
everyone
and
to
make
walking
and
biking
a
viable
and
more
enjoyable
way
to
get
around
town.
AK
Retrofitting
bike
lands
into
a
city's
built
environment
is
a
difficult
challenge,
as
we've
seen
over
the
years.
It's
especially
true
in
the
removal
of
existing
entrepreneurs
evolved
affirmative
vote
by
the
commission
is
reduction
onto
personal
Supply,
but
our
policy
can
really
make
an
impact.
It's
by
reducing
the
demand
for
launching
parking
in
the
area.
AK
From
a
fund
to
support
Transportation
demand
management,
one
of
those
projects
is
to
work
with
chcb
on
Gathering,
more
data
on
its
employees
and
visitors
to
that
Center.
My
understanding
that
the
survey
work
hasn't
begun
yet
I'd
really
like
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
specific
actionable
TDM
strategies
that
focus
on
helping
address.
AK
The
demand
for
parking
in
the
neighborhood
should
just
pass
the
night
I
would
urge
the
commission
to
push
the
city
to
increase
funding,
to
continue
to
work
with
local
Partners,
on
effective
TDM
strategies
and
other
wraparound
transportation
services
that
directly
impact
and
complement
the
proposed
bike.
Lanes
as
well,
and
finally,
as
mentioned
by
commissioner
Fox
and
by
engineer
so
we
need
to
discuss
I
think
shouldn't,
be
voted
in
the
affirmative,
how
we
will
measure
the
effects
of
bike
loans
and
really
discuss
that
in
great
detail
on
that
further
admission
meetings.
Thank
you.
D
D
I
do
have
a
full-time
job
and
family,
but
I
really
want
to
I
really
wanted
to
see
like
what
are
the
number
of
bedrooms.
I
did
looked
at
bedrooms
in
the
multi-unit
dwellings
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know
approximately
how
many
residents
are
living
there
and
then
looked
at
the
surface
images
to
see
the
parking
and
there
there
is
off
street
parking.
D
Might
it
be
insufficient
for
some?
Yes,
do
some
folks
who
live
in
the
front
of
the
building
park
on
the
street,
because
it's
more
convenient
yes
but
I
kind
of
went
in
that
thought.
Experiment.
You
know
really
with
an
open
mind
to
see
what
are
the
issues
you
know
kind
of
with
this,
this
parking
data
and
then
looked
at
to
the
on
and
off
street
parking
that
commissioner
Overby
referenced
about
the
on
Street,
the
off
Street,
the
resident
so
their
spots.
D
D
D
D
So
some
of
the
comments
about
safety
in
the
area
is
it
you
know:
do
we
need
to
also
improve
lighting?
What
what
else
is
incumbent
upon
Public
Works
Beyond?
This
this
idea
of
this
bike
lane
and
thinking
of
streets
as
they're
for
moving
people
and
goods
right,
not
necessarily
Vehicles.
How
do
we
make
it
safer
for
all?
How
do
we
make
it
safer
for
our
most
vulnerable
of
users?
D
So
some
questions
are,
if
we
think
about
this
kind
of
reallocating
of
of
public
right-of-way
and
the
conversation
about
reducing
parking
for
businesses.
How,
in
your
engagement
plan,
were
the
businesses
targeted
like?
Were
you
really
able
to
get
to
all
the
businesses,
especially
some
of
the
minority-owned
shops
like
the
Asian
market
and
the
African
Market.
N
F
J
It's
fair
to
say,
there's
a
significant
concern,
and
you
have
my
word
that
were
if
this
passes
tonight,
we
will
continue
to
try
to
develop
shared
parking
options.
It's
not
lost
on
me.
Your
comment,
commissioner,
O'neill
lovanco
about
are
there
other
terms
that
we
can
offer
that
may
address,
concerns
that
the
property
owners
may
have
I'm
open
to
that
conversation.
D
If,
when
the
ordinance
changes,
then
what's
the
policy
for
parking
enforcement,
because
this
is
going
to
really
be
a
big
shift
for
some
of
the
residents
so
that
it
isn't
that
that
there
are
warnings
if
someone
gets
a
ticket
before
just
an
outright
ticket,
how
do
we
bring
if
again
this
moves
forward?
How
do
we
make
sure
we're
bringing
community
members
and
visitors
along
with
us
on
this
journey
instead
of
well?
First
time
you
get
this
ticket
you're,
ticketed
and
towed
so
kind
of
thinking
of
this.
J
Yes,
on
the
on
trying
to
welcome
visitors
tonight
in
front
of
you
is
the
whoops
program
which
will
enable
us
to
expand
the
whoops
eligibility
so
that
the
first
ticket
anybody
receives
in
Burlington
can
be
waived,
and
we
really
are
excited
about
that.
We
can
look
at
a
warning
period.
Absolutely.
We
can
also
change
the
terms
thanks
to
assistant
director
Padgett,
wherever
you
are,
who
just
texted
me
that
we're
willing
to
Pilot
this
for
free
the
shared
parking
Arrangement.
This
is
not
a
money
maker
for
the
city.
D
Okay
and
then
just
one
final
thing
on
the
the
community
health
center
and
trying
to
identify
the
parking
and
TDM
Transportation
sorry,
Transportation
demand,
Management
systems
or
structures
for
them
to
take
advantage
of
I
know
you
mentioned
in
your
slide
deck
that
you've
done
some
Outreach.
What
are
the
next
steps
for
the
health
center
to
engage
with
either
katma
or
the
city
on
looking
at
some
of
the
opportunities
that
commissioner
over
be
mentioned
about
the
Winooski
parking,
deck
or
other
parking
within
the
city?
Yes,.
J
Thank
you,
I
checked
in
with
Kappa
today
to
get
the
update
and,
as
was
noted
by
someone
this
evening,
the
study
for
the
employees
of
the
community
health
center
has
not
started
yet
they're,
projecting
it
to
start
in
about
a
month,
and
they
are
looking
forward
to
getting
that
done.
So
there
are
no
results
from
that
study.
Yet,
but
you
know
I,
commissioner
damiani
is
suggesting
you
know
additional
TDM
support
of
adjacent
businesses
as
part
of
our
FY
24
budget.
We
can
and
look
at
see
what
opportunities
there
are
to
embark
on
that.
D
J
J
J
AH
AH
Excited
go.
You
know
going
forward
to
know
that
that
there
is
this
level
of
involvement
and
that
people
people
are
really
paying
attention
I'm
quite
involved
in
mutual
Aid
in
in
Burlington,
and
really
what
what
that
centers
is
like
paying
attention
and
understanding
one
another's
needs
and
on
what
level
we
have
individuals.
AH
People
mentioned
a
lot
of
the
social
services
that
that
are
located
on
that
stretch
of
North,
Winooski,
Avenue
and
they're,
designed
to
meet
people's
basic
needs.
So
they
could
be
part
of
part
of
this
community
and
contribute
in
in
all
the
ways
that
they
can
and
that's
one
part
of
it,
and
we
we
rely
on
these
organizations
really
to
to
ensure
that
we're
we're
all
taken
care
of,
but
that's
just
one
one
part
of
it.
AH
There's
kind
of
these,
like
one-on-one
neighbor,
to
neighbor
connections
that
we
need
to
consider
as
well,
and
it's
really
hard
to
make
those
kinds
of
connections
when
everyone
is
always
on
the
go
traveling
by
car,
and
as
you
heard
some
people
talk
about
tonight,
not
everyone
has
that
luxury
to
go
and
just
drive
drive
away.
You
know,
drive
drive
to
get
from
place
to
place,
but
I
feel
if
we're
really
building
streets
right,
really
building
neighborhoods
that
enable
people
to
enjoy
the
streets
right.
AH
You
know,
move
around
it
in
in
ways
where
they
can
encounter
other
people
that
that
could
improve
people's
lives
and
that
stretch
of
normanski.
That
is
going
to
be
changed
up
by
this
plan
and,
admittedly,
and
not
too
major
of
a
way
right.
It's
it's
going
from
quite
literally
like
one
lane
of
parking
currently
to
to
now
just
another
paved
bike
strip.
AH
AH
As
as
we've
learned,
you
have
a
lot
of
options
and
when
off-street
parking
is
monopolized
in
the
ways
that
it
are
or
the
ways
that
you
know
that
that
is
that
it
becomes.
It
becomes
difficult
to
really
even
understand
really
how
you
know
where,
where,
where
all
that
parking
exists
but
I'm,
confident
if
people
keep
on
paying
attention-
and
you
know
really-
you
know-
stay
aware
of
of
these
conversations-
that
that
we
can
find
a
way
for
this
to
work
for
everyone.
AH
It
isn't
fair
that
you
we
right
on
the
scale
of
the
entire
city
are
making
driving
that
the
only
way
to
move
around
in
in
most
most
conditions,
like
the
reason
that
such
a
big
population
you
know
is
such
a
big
chunk
of
the
city
are
reliant
on
vehicles-
is
that
it's
the
only
safe
and
effective
way
to
move
around,
but
in
a
lot
of
cases
it
it
shouldn't.
You
know
it
shouldn't
be.
AH
Think.
That's
really
effective
plan
like
it
means
like
this,
this
future
that
we're
working
towards
really
really
means
improving
access
by
all
different
modes,
but
when
the
bus
service
only
runs
every
30
minutes
all
of
a
sudden.
This
potentially
you
know
this
potential
alternative
becomes
basically
untenable
for
people
just
if,
if
that's
what
you're
doing
every
day
in
your
morning
to
work
and
the
schedule
doesn't
line
up
exactly
right
or
you
need
to
buffer
this
time
in,
because
the
bus
doesn't
always
run
on
time.
AH
That's
inconveniencing
people
and
when
we
really
talk
about
Equity,
it's
addressing
all
of
these
things.
It's
understanding
that
this.
This
is
a
complex
issue
and
it
isn't
just
on
us
as
Commissioners,
it's
an
entire
community
that
that
should
be
working
together
and
advocating
and
understanding.
You
know
where
these
issues
are
really
coming
from.
AH
So,
in
short,
the
you
know,
the
very
the
very
limited
scope
of
this
commission's
Authority
is
implementing
these.
These
ordinance
changes
when
it
comes
to
parking
and
going
to
be
supporting
them,
but
I
I
understand
that
both
as
a
commissioner
and
as
a
community
member
right
there
in
the
old
North
End
that
this
is
a
real,
constant
commitment
to
paying
attention
to
what
what
these
changes
are
and
really
listening.
AH
You
know
really
understanding
the
complex
array
of
of
points
of
view
that
people
are
bringing
and
coming
to
solutions
that
that
work
for
for
the
best
of
everyone,
but
people's,
like
lack
of
trust
in
in
like
the
city's
processes
and
feeling
unlisted
to,
is
certainly
getting
in
the
way
of
that
a
little
bit
and
I
want
to
do
what
I
can.
So
that
is,
that's
all
I
got.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Clarifying
question
of
Staff:
well,
you
speak
a
bit
to
the
the
phasing
here.
Obviously
we
got
a
a
heavy
lifted,
a
substantial
one
in
front
of
us
tonight.
I
know
this
is
scaled
down
from
what
we're
looking
at
say
this
time
last
year,
can
you
talk
about
the
trajectory
of
the
sort
of
pass
today
sort
of
we're
still
looking
at
things
for
North
Winooski,
south
of
Decatur
and
Union.
J
J
We
talked
about
going
back
to
the
council's
transportation,
energy
and
utilities
committee
and
the
council
to
understand
kind
of
the
general
thought
about
the
next
phases.
We
have
implemented
a
number
of
recommendations
along
the
corridor.
The
downtown
section
was
reconfigured
from
four
lanes
to
three
lanes.
I
think
successfully.
We
changed
one
block
of
South
Winooski
to
one-way
traffic
between
King
and
maple.
That
seemed
to
work
well.
So
there
are
other
recommendations
that
we
can
pick
off.
There
was
recommendation
for
mini
roundabout
Pilots
I
had
a
couple
intersections
here.
J
We
have
not
had
the
bandwidth
or
Staffing
up
to
now
with
a
number
of
vacancies
until
recently
to
pick
those
up
but
I.
Think
the
the
larger
lift
of
the
next
phase
year
of
looking
from
Union
down
to
Pearl
for
Elaine
Readjustment
is
not
in
the
near
future
in
large
part,
because
we're
going
to
repave
the
street
and
stripe
it
largely
as
it
exists
today,
but
also
recognizing
that
there
needs
to
be
more
process.
Given
the
the
heightened
interest
and
concern
along
the
corridor,
yeah.
A
The
song
we've
heard
comments
on
either
side
of
that
statement.
I
understand,
for
example,
the
community
health
center
has
a
garage
with
I
believe
676
spaces.
My
sense
of
the
demand
there
with
100
staff
members
on
site
at
any
time
a
number
of
patients
coming
and
going
throughout
the
day.
If
they
had
a
garage
with
150
or
200
spaces,
they
could
likely
fill
it.
They
would
go
out
to
300
spaces,
but
maybe
they
could
use
that
as
well
right.
But
that's
not
what
worked
I
feel
like
that.
A
If
there
was
a
garage
that
large
it
would
be,
oh
so
much
easier
to
to
come
by
vehicle,
and
maybe
even
more
of
a
challenge
and
more
of
a
stressful
environment
for
people
to
get
there
not
by
vehicle
and
I.
Think
that
sort
of
works
induced
demand
can
work
in
the
other
direction
as
well
and
I.
Tell
you,
I
I,
I
live
in
a
one
vehicle
household
and
I.
A
Tell
you
that
the
times
that
that
vehicle
is
elsewhere
being
used,
it's
a
lot
easier
for
me
to
make
a
choice
to
not
drive
somewhere.
There's
a
car
share
I'm
a
member
I
get
a
car
share
occasionally,
but
you
know
when
there
are
constraints
like
that,
it
certainly
can
lead
to
thinking
differently
about
options.
A
I
excited
about
and
I
I
think
it's
certainly
a
worthy
effort
to
pursue
the
transportation
demand
management
grant
program
last
fall
would
have
loved
to
see
the
outcome
of
the
survey
Community
Health,
Center
nowish,
but
certainly
look
forward
to
the
outcome
of
that
moving
forward
and
I
think
there
are
yes,
certainly
options
of
how
people
get
where
they're
going
it
there's.
You
know
certainly.
A
Hundreds,
maybe
in
the
thousands
of
people
that
work
around
the
city,
that
Park
and
satellite
lots
and
catch
shuttles
to
get
there,
that
that's
a
thing
I'm
pleased
to
see
the
support
for
the
the
city.
Loop
bus
continuing
bear
free
moving
forward,
obviously
even
better
than
their
free
bosses,
a
bus
that
can
run
it
at
higher
frequency,
but
I
think
there's,
there's
options
there.
It's
a
couple
of
sort
of
other
candidate
tools
that
come
to
mind
here
are,
of
course,
like
there's
as
I
understand
it.
A
A
If
need,
if
need
be
along
the
way-
and
you
know
when
other
thought
on
that
I
think
we've
been
with
some
of
the
the
changes
technology
wise
in
our
city,
managed
garage
parking
garages,
downtown
I
think
we've
been
able
to
be
smarter
about
monitoring
the
use
of
those
resources
and
watching
for
misuse
of
those
resources
and
tweaking
policy
in
ways
to
shift
things
in
way
that
are
more
beneficial
for
better
optimizing.
The
the
use
of
those
resources,
yeah
I,
think
those
are
sort
of
a
few
things
to
consider
moving
forward.
T
G
A
A
G
A
Improvements,
helping
people
feel
more
comfortable
moving
around
these
neighborhoods
all
day,
all
night
trust
the
city
will
continue
to
stay
engaged
on
that
as
well,
because
with
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
remarks
at
this
point,
we
do
have
a
a
Warren's
public
comment
on
this
item.
I
will
ask,
of
course,
that
we've
the
hours
getting
late,
we've
heard
a
number
of
of
comments
to
date,
asking
if
there's
anyone
who
has
not
spoken
yet
and
would
like
to
speak
at
this
time.
A
B
AL
AL
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
hear
is
about
safety
and
really
building
infrastructure
that
promotes
and
supports
safety
and
mobility
in
many
many
modes
and
so
I
think
to
increase
the
accessibility
of
multimodal
transportation.
We
have
to
really
shift
make.
These
shifts
make
the
hard
shifts
when
we
need,
when
we
can
and
are
able
to
add
more
infrastructure,
so
I
I
voice.
My
support
for
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
V
Here
is
a
little
bit
of
a
hope
and
a
prayer,
because
those
property
owners,
the
people
who
we
work
with,
like
the
co-ops
housing
co-ops
own
Lots,
have
no
interest
in
giving
up
any
of
their
parking
spaces
because
they
fear
what
they
have
right
now
is
not
enough
outright.
Vermont
does
not
have
enough
spaces.
The
children's
space
does
not
have
enough
spaces.
V
V
The
old
spokes
home
has
plenty
of
spaces,
but
it's
not
giving
them
up,
which
is
for
me
just
a
bit
of
iron
that
that
the
bike
shop,
which
wants
to
support
this
and
I
appreciate
wanting
to
have
a
bike
link,
won't
be
able
to
sort
of
share
its
spaces.
I,
don't
think
you
could
get
a
lot
of
shared
spaces
in
the
future.
I
don't
see
it
happening.
V
Legal
aid
will
come
back
in
full
force,
be
in
there
pee
in
their
buildings
and
they're,
going
to
use
those
spaces
and
since
you're
eliminating
some
handicap
spaces
on
the
street
and
speaking
of
the
same
more
disabled
people
at
their
site,
they're
going
to
be
using
those
spaces
for
people
who
are
disabled.
Okay,
boot
shelf
is
expanding
its
reach
to
do
more
stuff
with
homeless
folks
and
the
people
who
go
to
their
food
shelf.
Maybe
someone
will
go
on
my
bikes
but
they're
getting
there
with
Vans
and
cars
and
that's
a
struggle.
V
We
I
told
you.
We
did
Transportation
demand
management,
I,
don't
know
added
146
people
we
employ
out
of
the
100
out
of
the
70
or
so
who
worked
downtown
three
or
four
really
take
advantage
of
that
program.
You're
not
going
to
get
a
lot
of
juice
out
of
the
community
health
centers
Burlington
you're
not
going
to
get
a
lot
of
demand.
V
Alternative
transportation
demand
out
of
those
workers
because
they're
coming
from
a
lot
of
different
places
and
often
enough,
they
have
to
use
their
cars.
The
nurses
need
to
use
their
cars.
The
people
who
go
there
and
go
in
other
places
have
to
use
their
cars.
That's
what
they
do
every
day.
That's
why
my
property
managers
have
to
park
at
our
site
and
you're
going
to
have
you
have
not
only
the
people
who
work
on
that
site,
but
the
people
who
go
to
that
site?
V
Okay
from
other
locations
and
I'm,
not
talking
about
just
going
to
restaurant
phone,
while
parking
around
the
corner.
Talking
about
the
people,
the
people
who
are
going
to
outright
who
fear
walking
on
the
street
because
they're
gay
about
needing
to
be
close
to
someplace
safe?
Those
are
the
things
I'm
talking
about.
I'm,
not
saying
bike
lanes
are
important,
but
I
think
you're
missing
something
here,
because
I
because
I'm
white
in
middle
class,
I
live
up,
the
street
I
have
a
beautiful
home
and
I
can
tell
you
that.
V
That's
not
what
the
people
who
are
going
there
are
experiencing
and
they're
experiencing
a
different
level
of
issues
and
concerns
the
homeless.
People
who
go
into
the
Food
Shelf
struggling
okay,
they're,
not
taking
their
cars,
but
the
service
workers
who
are
there
now
are
the
five
or
six
people
have
to
be
there.
Now
that
serve
them,
are
they
have
no
place
to
park
no
place
to
park?
And
so
when
you
eliminate
this
parking,
that's
what
you're
doing
hope
in
a
prayer
for
the
future.
V
It's
really
a
hope
and
a
prayer.
Oh
God,
I,
wish
you
could
do
it
if
you
could
take
one
of
those.
You
know
eminent
domain,
all
the
parking
spaces
and
create
some
Lots
I've
been
involved
in
those
kinds
of
discussions
in
the
past,
but
you're
not
going
to
do
that
and
do
that
successfully
and
then
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
extend
this
thing
all
the
way
to
Pearl
Street
either
I,
don't
think
so.
I
just
think
you're
going
to
struggle
with
this
I
I
know
you
have
to
pave
something
so
pave
it.
V
Grant,
who
is
a
city
council
who
knocking
on
doors,
listen
to
the
advisory
committee?
Who
said?
No,
unless
you
get
this
done,
listen
to
the
businesses
who
have
spoken
up,
who
said
wait
a
minute
what's
going
on
here.
This
is
not
good
for
us.
Listen
to
the
service
agencies,
I
sent
you.
Let
us
say,
hey
be
careful
about
this.
This
is
really
impacting
us
in
a
big
way.
V
Okay,
you
that's
what
that's
petition
from
the
neighborhood
initially
to
say
no
to
this
I,
don't
know
why
you
just
sort
of
Wonder
just
walk
all
over
this
I'm
stunned
by
this
frankly
I'm.
You
know,
I've
been
involved
with
the
city
Burlington
doing
things
past
what
I
think
to
be
something,
that's
unjust,
but
here
you
are
trampling
over
individuals
who
are
who
are
low
income
people
of
color
businesses
in
a
sector
of
the
city,
that
is,
that
is
just
on
the
edge
of
stuff
being
okay,
it's
not
richly!
It's
not
rich.
V
This
is
not
gentrified,
it's
just
being
okay
and
you're,
going
to
make
it
harder
for
them
to
be
okay.
Those
businesses
are
going
to
go
out
of
control,
you're
going
to
go
survey,
their
businesses
and
they're
going
to
say
how's
it
going
we're
going
to
go,
not
enough
people
who
can't
find
cars.
It's
a
pain,
it's
a
pain
in
the
butt
we
gotta
leave.
We
can't
be
here
I'm
gonna,
find
some
place
to
go
else
to
go.
V
I'm
working
with
the
community
health
centers
at
Burlington,
now
about
building
new
facilities
in
Winooski
and
part
of
the
assessment
I
haven't
spoken
to
him
about
this
part
of
the
assessment
is
maybe
we
should
put
the
dental
clinic
here,
because
we
have
more
parking
and
that's
how
people
get
there
all
right.
Just
pay
attention
to
this.
Please
I
did
economic
development
for
a
couple
of
decades.
Here
pay
attention
to
the
impact
it
has
an
economics
of
the
city
and
the
services
of
the
city
and
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
impacted.
V
AJ
X
Career
Ward,
three
yeah
I
mean
I
just
want
to
continue
saying
that
what
I
hear
is
a
lot
of
making
policy
based
on
personal
experience
and
I.
Think
it's
insulting
to
say
that
if
we
build
a
300
car
garage
there,
it
would
be
filled.
I
think
that
there's
a
lack
of
understanding
of
the
lives
of
the
people
that
have
written
to
you
trying
to
explain
it
and
I.
Don't
thank
you!
I
think
you
don't
believe
them.
I
really
do
because
I
think
there's
this
there's
this
attitude
of
the.
X
If
we
design
cities
in
a
way
that
inconveniences
people,
they
will
change
it's
a
behavior.
This
is
the
city.
Design
is
a
behavior
changing
tool
and
when
it's
used
this
way
it's
weaponized
against
those
who
have
the
least
defenses.
When
you
Circle
the
neighborhood
to
go
to
Pho
Hong,
you
are
displacing
the
residents
who
live
there,
who
get
home
and
are
competing
for
space.
X
When
I
talked
with
the
low-income
tenant
across
from
junk
teaks,
she
said,
I
have
a
hidden
disability
and
when
I
can't
park
here,
I
have
to
circle
the
neighborhood
and
now
I'm
competing
with
all
these
other
people
and
in
the
winter
I
have
I
can't
I
have
to
take
an
Uber
to
get
home
because
I
have
to
go
find
a
parking
space.
She
said
if
I
can't
park
right
here,
then
I'm
screwed
so
like
these
are
the
lives
of
the
people
who
you
all
want
to
build
community
with
and
make
them
feel
good
about.
X
All
this
and
the
Battleground
has
become
this
stretch
of
the
North
winoosk
Avenue,
where
the
rest
of
Northern
Avenue
isn't
going
to
work.
Their
North
winooskie
Ave
has
the
densest
multi-family
housing
in
the
city.
If
you
take
from
Pearl
to
Riverside,
it
is
the
densest
multi-family
housing
blocks
in
the
city.
X
There
are
cars
upon
cars
upon
cars,
from
tenants,
working
people
up
and
down
that
block,
and
when
we
did,
the
petition,
when
I
think
Chapin
respectfully
didn't
have
time
to
cover,
is
that
the
original
plan
was
to
remove
all
the
parking
from
Pearl
to
Riverside
and
when
we
out
we
went
out
and
talked
to
neighbors,
that's
where
there
was
a
firestorm
and
it
became
evident
how
unreasonable
that
is,
and
so,
where?
Where
is
this
plan
going?
X
It
is
not
a
viable
proposition
to
take
the
parking
away
on
the
east
side
from
Pearl
to
Riverside
that
has
been
essentially
put
to
bed.
So
now
we
have
this
broken
bike
system
that
is
not
honoring
the
original
plan
anyway,
and
that
the
part
it's
like
you
all
have
inherited
a
train
that
was
moving
and
you
feel
like.
You
can't
stop
the
train,
but
the
people
who
are
least
able
the
people
whose
voices
have
been
marginalized
are
saying.
Please
stop
marginalizing
us
we're
asking
you
to
stop
the
train
and
there's
just
this.
X
You
know
kind
of
1950s
mentality
of
like
oh
we'll,
just
build
it.
We'll
just
do
this
transportation
thing
and
people
have
to
live
with
it.
It's
just
the
culture
of
Transportation,
Planning
and
you've
inherited
that
and
I
think
it's
a
shame
that
you
can't
kind
of
get
away
from
that
into
kind
of
the
human
level
of
the
people
who
live
and
work
here,
and
especially
the
community
health
center,
which
is
Medicaid
funded.
They
don't
have
capital
and
they
have
this
problem.
They
followed
the
rules
all
these
years
they
were
developed
by
the
city.
X
The
city
has
invested
in
all
of
these
Social
Services,
you've
heard
from
every
single
director
of
every
single
Social
Service
organization,
except
legal
aid,
because
they
have
their
own
parking
lot
that
this
isn't
going
to
work,
for
this
is
a
hub.
This
is
a
social
service
Hub
and
it
was
developed
that
way
intentionally
with
multiple,
affordable
housing
and
social
services.
X
You
could
use
other
streets,
there's
plenty
of
room
to
save
carbon
emissions,
reduce
them
on
other
streets,
there's
plenty
of
other
streets
to
have
bike
lights.
There
are
not
plenty
of
other
streets
to
have
an
intentional
Social
Service
hub
that
has
low-income
micro,
entrepreneurial
ship
Investments.
There
is
not
another
Street
to
do
that.
This
is
it.
This
is
the
ex.
This
is
the
endangered
Community
Economic
Development
Zone.
At
this
point,
because
of
this
plan,.
B
Y
AM
AM
I
mean
we're
really
only
taking
40
spots
and
more
than
half
of
people
drive
alone
in
their
car
you're,
only
taking
away
space
from
40
to
50
people,
let's
say
and
you're,
adding
another
form
of
transportation
for
a
lot
of
people
for
children,
for
college
students,
for
people
who
don't
have
cars
and
I
hear
that
businesses
are
worried
about,
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
reduction
of
parking,
but
this
is
proven
to
work.
This
has
worked
in
cities
all
across
of
the
world
and
I.
AM
AN
Okay,
yeah,
so
I'm,
Carlos,
Esquivel,
I,
live
in
norwinoski
Avenue,
closer
to
radio
in
I
should
say
I.
Think,
like
a
lot
of
the
comments,
are
being
very
misleading.
Right
now,
I've
been
working
as
a
social
worker
for
Burlington
Housing
Authority
for
the
last
year,
and
in
my
experience,
what
I
found
is
that
a
lot
of
lower
income
people
and
by
both
people,
including
me?
They
we
and
they
don't
drive
I
mean
that's
just
the
way
it
is
I
mean
it's.
AN
A
very
diverse
I
have
to
have
to
say
you
know
like
some
of
them
Drive,
which
is
also
part
of
the
problem.
They
probably
shouldn't
drive
a
lot
of
them
have
the
uis.
They
I
have
done
budgets
with
my
clients,
and
a
lot
of
the
budgets
are
like
transportation
for
the
ones
that
drive
go
around
30
percent
of
their
income
to
fifty
percent
of
their
income.
That
doesn't
make
any
sense
they
shouldn't
drive
and
why
and
they
drive,
because
that's
the
only
available
option
for
them
and
that's
just
not
fairly.
AN
We
should
have
the
availability
of
options
to
us
and
I
think
like
we
are
parting
from
that
cost.
Instead
of
the
consequence,
you
know
it's
like
asking
why
no
one
goes
to
a
drive-through
in
the
middle
of
a
Highway
by
bike
and
yeah.
It's
obvious,
like
No,
One's
Gonna.
Do
that
because
there's
no
other
way
to
get
there
now
talking
about
businesses.
If
you
wanna
ask
me
where
I
will
put
my
business
between
Church
Street
that
has
no
parking
spaces
at
all
or
UMO.
AN
That
has
plenty
of
parking
space
all
the
time
which
one
do
you
think
I'm,
gonna,
choose
and
I
think
in
any
business
owner
will
choose
Church
Street
because
that's
the
most
valuable
land
in
whole
in
the
whole
state,
I
think
I'm.
Sorry,
I
didn't
prepare
much
of
the
stuff,
but
also
when
we're
talking
about
disabled
Fox,
not
not
all
of
them.
Drive
I
think
that's
another
very
misleading
argument
that
they
are
using.
AF
Yes,
I
apologize.
Sorry.
Can
you
hear
me
now
yeah
thanks.
First
reaction,
Carlos
your
clients
probably
have
a
high
Transportation
cost
because
they
can't
afford
to
live
any
closer
to
where
they
need
their
services.
I'm,
not
sure
if
he's
ever
considered
that,
but
it
didn't
sound
like
it
speaker
before
that.
Excuse
me
the
two
speakers
before
that
I
completely
100
agree
with
and
I
would
hope
to
connect
with
sometime
in
the
future.
AF
Okay,
I
was
curious.
If
there's
any
monetary
federal
state
funding
benefit
that
Burlington
would
receive
if
these
this,
if
this
proposal
was
implemented,
if
so,
I
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
have
heard
about
that.
Yet
I'm
also
curious
what
a
shared
parking
Arrangement
is.
Does
that
mean
sharing
the
small
amount
of
remaining
spaces?
AF
AF
Taxpayer-Funded
study
was
considered
in
that
entire
process
before
now.
This
seems
awfully
late
to
the
game
to
to
quote
someone
else.
My
word
you
have
my
word.
We
will
continue
to
explore
parking
options.
This
is
this
just
seems
like
a
like
a
a
real
sham
to
me,
the
commissioner,
the
most
incremental
of
changes,
you're
literally
cutting
half
of
the
parking
of
all
the
entire
Street
up
and
down
off.
AF
That
is
not
incremental
in
anyone's
interpretation
of
the
word
phased
approach:
Mr
Peterson,
it's
difficult
to
adapt
at
first
I'm,
referring
to
my
notes
and
quotes
from
different
people
difficult
to
adapt
to
at
first
Christian
Peterson.
Do
you
live
here
like
that
comment?
It
seems
incredibly
patronizing.
She
was
on
the
other
foot
wherever
you
do
live.
Someone
came
around
and
said:
I
want
to
make
a
bike
lane
past
your
house
on
the
UK,
so
you
can't
park
outside
there
anymore.
How
would
you
feel
about
that?
AF
Another
quote:
I
assume
we
will
find
some
agreements
with
adjacent
parking.
Lots
like
none
of
this
leg.
Work
was
done
up
until
this
point,
where
at
the
last
step
here
now
and
no,
we-
you
have
my
word-
we'll
continue
to
explore
options.
We
assume
we'll
be
able
to
find
agreements
with
adjacent
Lots
which,
even
in
light
of
the
fifteen
thousand
dollar
Grant
hasn't
happened.
Yet
this
is
I
mean
how
does
anyone
know
off
the
top
of
their?
How
much
the
original
study
cost
the
taxpayers
of
Burlington.
AF
AO
AO
AO
I'd
also
like
to
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
safety
issue.
I
appreciate
the
gentleman
that
talked
about
being
mugged
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
benefits
of
this
is
the
more
people
that
are
out
in
public
out
of
cars.
The
safer
an
area
becomes
they're,
just
it's
just
more
lively,
there's
more
activity
and
people
feel
and
are
safer
in
general.
Thank
you,
foreign.
A
With
that
will
close
the
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
here,
I
guess,
first
before
we
do
that
check
with
staff
and
there's
a
a
couple
clarifying
questions
there,
one
on
the
the
cost
of
studies
to
dates
and
one
on
whether
there's
a
monetary
benefit
from
the
the
feds
or
otherwise
yeah.
If
this
proceeds.
J
J
J
E
A
AN
AJ
Will
it
provide
data
on
the
number
of
staff
number
of
patients
that
that
come
and
go
and
whether
they
use
a
private
vehicle
walk
like
us
have,
as
I
was
in
communication
with
somebody
who
made
it
seem
to
me,
like
the
survey
had
nothing
to
do
with
that
information
had
to
deal
with.
How
did
patients
decide
to
get
there
so
I
want
to
know?
If
you
are
you
part
of
the
conversation
or
the
specification
of
the
statistics
that
since
now,
we
know
that
they
haven't
started,
I
thought
this
would
have
been
done.
AJ
J
The
email
that
we
received
today
from
the
from
katma
said
they
are
beginning
the
planning
with
chcb
to
conduct
a
patient
travel
survey
for
the
old
North
End
site.
I
have
not
seen
the
survey.
I
can't
speak
to
the
detail
of
it.
So
I
don't
know
exactly
what
data
they
are
going
to
collect.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
encourage
that
that
information.
AJ
J
AJ
J
F
T
Are
not
in
good
repair
on
either
North
Union
or
North,
Lewandowski
and
I
have
walked
down
many
times
in
the
past
couple
weeks,
just
in
case
anybody
was
wondering
there
was
when
we
had
the
thought
there
was
three
inch
deep
puddles
in
five
or
six
places
in
a
two
block.
Radius,
you
know
addressing
repair
is
fine,
but
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
can't
get
there
onto
the
ramps,
because
the.
A
F
F
A
AH
D
F
A
F
B
J
AP
AP
She's
jumped
right
into
the
fires,
so
just
to
remind
everybody,
she's
running
all
the
parking,
Service
agents,
she's
selling
permits
in
the
garages,
it's
part
of
she's
what
Leonard
Ducharme
used
to
do.
If
you
followed
what
he
was
doing
so
she's
got
quite
a
bit
on
her
plate
and
she
helped
contribute
to
this
report
tonight.
So
sorry,
thankful,
for
that,
so
remind
everybody.
We
are
here
doing
this
report.
It's
an
occupancy
report
for
the
downtown
garage
thanks
to
the
delegated
authority
that
we
got
from
you
guys
back
in
2019.
AP
They
basically
said
we
don't
have
to
come
to
you
every
time
we
sell
a
parking
permit.
That
was
the
way
it
was
structured
before
we
had
to
it
took
two
months
for
somebody
to
get
a
permit,
so
you
delegated
that
authority
to
us,
and
we
agreed
that
every
year
we
come
back
and
tell
you
that
the
garage
is
not
yet
full
or
it's
full
and
we're
managing
or
whatever's
happening
well
right
after
we
did
that
coveted
hit.
So
things
got
scrambled.
AP
So
now
it's
a
little
bit
different
story,
so
occupancy
Still,
Remains
low,
we're
still
at
40
to
50
percent
I.
Put
last
year's
graph
up
there
just
to
remind
you.
We
were
at
30
to
40
last
year,
so
we're
better,
but
we're
still
hurting
the
green
line.
Is
the
average
I
took
the
average
day
of
the
average
of
all
the
days
of
that
month.
So
that's
like
the
average
for
the
month
and
then
the
red
line
is
the
peak
day.
AP
So
that's
the
peak
number
that
we
measured
in
that
day
that
blue
dotted
line
is
85,
which
is
sort
of
rule
of
thumb,
goal
that
we're
headed
towards
so
better,
not
there.
We
still
have
plenty
of
capacity,
so
anybody
who
wants
to
park
downtown
please
come
to
downtown
garage,
a
lot
of
room
and
it's
two
hours
free
interesting
thing
about
revenues,
though
this
is
sort
of
this
is
a
sign.
You
know
we're
proving
a
little
bit
on
occupancy,
but
this
is
this:
is
transient
Hotel
sales?
AP
No,
it's
2001!
There
was
a
big
climb.
We
climbed
right
out
of
the
hole,
and
now
this
year
we've
sort
of
we've
evened
out
a
bit
so
I
think
I'm,
taking
that
as
a
sign,
we're
headed
towards
something
some
new
normal,
where
our
revenues
are
still
down,
but
we're
headed
we're
we're
not
as
spiky
as
we
were
were
last
year.
So
I
I
took
that
as
a
good
sign,
free,
Employee,
Program
still
going
strong.
We
have
30
companies
participating
with
60
650
participating
permits.
We've
rearrange
with
our
new
parking
aims.
AP
Parking
software
we've
actually
created
a
system
where
now
people's
permits
expire,
so
I
don't
remember.
From
last
year
we
had
like
70
companies
that
were
involved
and
we've
pruned
out
half
of
them
because
they
weren't
actually
using
you
know
they
weren't
actually
participating.
We
still
have
650
employees,
though,
so
that
those
30
employees,
those
30
companies,
ostensibly,
are
having
better
utility.
AP
That's
how
I'm
reading
it
so,
just
in
conclusion,
our
occupancy
remains
low.
Our
public
use
seems
to
be
recovering
we're
looking
at
you
know,
we'd
like
to
get
better
resolution,
we'd
like
to
get
time
of
day
res
parking
occupancy
right
now,
we're
doing
it
with
parking
services,
agents
they're
going
in
there
we're
doing
enforcement
with
parking,
Service
agents
so
twice
a
day,
they're
counting
manually,
the
occupancy
of
the
garage
which
is
time
consuming
and
not
as
accurate
as
if
we
had
LPR
we're
still
working
with
legal
to.
Let's.
AP
License
plate
recognition,
optical
character,
recognition
of
license
plates
that
will
allow
us
to
basically
say
plate.
Plate123
came
in
play.
One
two
three
went
out
doesn't
record
anything.
It
just
says
we
recognize
this
person
came
in,
we
recognized
this
person
went
out
and
we
get
real-time
occupancy.
We
have
some
hurdles,
There
Yet
to
Come
overcome.
AP
We
are
still
improving
our
permit
sales
and
accounting
process.
We've
migrated
from
a
Google
sheet
waiting
list,
we're
migrating
into
a
waiting
list,
that's
baked
into
Ames,
if
you're,
not
there,
yet
we're
three
months
into
Aim,
so
we're
still
learning
these
things
and
we're
just
starting
to
get
to
exploiting
how
to
use
aims
to
get
real
metrics
on
on
parking
sales.
AP
We
have
a
special
agreement
with
them
relative
to
their
it's
a
professional
development
agreement
and
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
you
know
they
have
allocations
for
five
years
after
that
they
have
a
it's,
not
an
allocation
anymore.
It's
a
fixed
purchase
like
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
they're
going
to
say
we
need
100
permits
or
we
need
150.
It's
gonna
be
a
fixed
fee.
Up
till
then
we
have
this
allocation
of
200
that
we're
working
against.
They
only
have
59
permits
right
now,
so
they
obviously
haven't.
You
know
they're
not
fully
occupied.
AP
AK
Sure
I
just
have
one
quick
question
with
the
transition
to
the
digital
marketing
software.
That's
sort
of
in
light
of
the
conversation
we
had
this
evening.
Are
we
able
to
I
guess,
take
the
DMV
information
of
sort
of
generally
where
people
live
and
are
using
the
parking
garages
to
go
to
understanding
our
a
lot
of
people
who
live
in
downtown
Burlington
using.
AP
The
parking
garages
sort
of
we
can't
use
DMV
data,
that's
protected
with
sieges,
that's
the
criminal
justice
information
system.
That's
why
we
have
locks
on
our
doors.
That's
why
we're
allowed
to
get
license
plate
information
and
actually
connect
names
to
plates.
We
can,
however,
get
that
information
from
parkmobile
because
that's
disclosed,
they
disclose
their
name.
They
disclose
their
license
plate
number.
AP
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AJ
AP
Between
the
garages
is
we're
actually
we're
just
in
a
meeting
this
week.
There's
lots
of
conversation
about
wave
fighting
as
related
to
the
Main
Street
project.
Wayfinding
in
the
streets
is
actually
that's
a
project
managed
by
the
tech
services
group
and
I
do
talk
to
them,
but
in
my
world
what
I
can
control
like?
We
just
did
a
major
cleanup
of
the
path
between
between
the
garages
and
Bank
Street.
We
went
in
and
actually
cleaned
up.
AP
You
know
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
worth
of
landscape
to
make
that
a
more
welcoming
space
we've
improved
a
bunch
of
lighting.
If
you
see
graffiti
in
the
garage
just
send
me
an
email
there
shouldn't
be
any
so
we're
trying
to
create
that
environment
we're
trying
to
create
the
destination
we
want
the
destination
to
be
benign.
I
want
people
to
come
in
and
not
be
terribly
happy
and
not
be
upset.
We
just
want
them
to
park
their
car
you'll
do
their
thing
and
go
back.
You
know
so,
no
graffiti,
you
know
nice
and
bright.
AP
F
AJ
AP
Yeah,
we
see
a
lot
of
interesting
things
so
to
be
clear,
we
do
have
a
signed,
comprehensive
signage
plan
for
the
marketplace,
garage
and
downtown
garage.
It's
a
unified
signage
plan,
it's
a
million
dollars,
and
so
what
we're
focusing
on
now
is
the
lighting
the
graffiti
the
safety.
You
know,
those
really
in
your
in
our
face
tactile
challenges.
So
we
know
it's.
We
know
we
need
better
signage.
AJ
F
AJ
Appreciate
whatever
you
can
do
and
I
think
it's
going
to
help
us,
and
now
that
you
have
a
new
person
working
on
it,
maybe
you'll
have
something
to
bring
power.
I
would
suggest
we
come
up
with
some
creative.
You
know
give
them
get
some
sort
of
way
of
getting
a
creative
Community
to
come
up
with
some
ideas
of
how
to
help
people
negotiate
that,
because
I
I
think
you
know,
other
downtowns
have
had
these
challenges
as
well.
We
haven't
figured
it
out
yet.
AH
C
Yeah
just
some
quick
clarifying
questions,
because
this
is
new
to
me.
I
guess:
I'm
wondering
is
this
occupancy
report
just
for
permitted
spaces,
or
is
it
permitted
spaces
and
for
the
garage?
Okay,
the
entire
garage?
Okay,
that
wasn't
clear?
Thank
you
and
then
yeah,
just
hoping
you
can
explain
really
briefly
like
what
the
employee,
the
free
Employee
Program,
is
yeah.
AP
So
this
is
really
interesting,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
backstory
to
there
used
to
be
two
hours
free
in
the
marketplace,
garage
and
downtown
garage,
and
a
couple
years
ago
we
took
the
excuse
me.
The
two
hours
free
was
discontinued
at
the
marketplace
garage
for
a
variety
of
demand
reasons,
but
in
that
process
we
also
created
a
free
employee
parking
program
for
downtown
garage.
The
idea
was
that
we
want
the
marketplace
garage
to
be
for
the
marketplace
and
customers
and
give
downtown
workers.
AP
So
basically,
we
said
we're
gonna,
make
some
more
money
on
the
marketplace
garage
we're
going
to
spend
it
on
giving
free
parking
to
downtown
police,
and
then
it's
been
very
well
received.
I
hear
lots
of
positive
comments
from
downtown
merchants,
and
it's
only
for
businesses
that
are
actually
in
the
designated
downtown
district.
AI
Yeah,
because
that's
important
and
and
in
your
push
to
have
it
approved
I,
would
continue
to
push
the
tech
companies
that
create
that
make
the
LPR
to
put
it
in
a
handheld
mode
because
just
having
it
on
a
vehicle,
we
did
find
some
challenges
at
UVM
with
the
corners
and
trying
to
find
it.
You
know
that
the
idea
is
to
streamline
and
to
make
it
easier
so,
but
a.
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AP
F
D
Person's
not
from
Burlington
and
I
think
they
come
in.
So
if
you're
coming
in
like
Pine
Street
battery
anything
beyond
your
place
of
work
is
like
you
know
the
abyss,
so
I
don't
know.
I
just
thought.
You
know
engaging
with
business
owners
if,
if
there
is
a
need
to
alleviate
some
of
those
spots
for
people
who.
J
D
AP
AP
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
including
the
ones
in
the
consent
agenda.
We
didn't
speak
to
in
detail
here
question
when
asked
last
year
about
real-time
occupancy,
we're
getting
there
we're
still
kind
of
manually
to
switch
to
park.
Mobile
would
help
there
is
it
do
we
have
real-time
counts
now,
they're
on
Park
mobile,
or
is
it
still
a
function
of
of
getting
the.
AP
A
F
AP
Not
really
the
solution
for
real-time
accounts,
it's
just
too
much
data
and
too
much
overlapping
parking.
I've
tried
to
do
it
a
couple
times
and
the
amount
of
analytical
sort
of
horsepower
you
need
to
make
that
happen.
The
calculations
that
need
to
go
into
seeing
who's
got
overlapping
parking
at
some
instant
is
a
lot
harder
than
I.
Did
it
in
a
spreadsheet,
and
it
wasn't
even
the
end
of
the
data
set
and
it
was
not
yeah.
So
LPR.
AP
Will
solve
it
and
LPR?
We
can
actually
we
put
on
a
car,
we
can
do
occupancy
counts
around
the
city.
So
as
you're
driving
down
Summit
Street,
we
can
get
occupancy
on
Summit
Street,
like
they
just
push
a
button.
They
say
I'm
on
Summit
now
so
I
drive
down,
they've
found
three
people,
they
wrote
three
tickets,
but
they
got
to
the
end
and
they
got
75
cars
parked
in
Summit
Street.
AO
AP
A
AP
A
A
A
AP
Yes,
so
this
is
very
exciting,
so
this
is
This
Is,
Us
learning
as
we
go.
We
came
through
about
a
year
ago
and
initiated
the
whoops
program,
which
is
a
city-wide,
gives
the
opportunity
for
anybody
city-wide
for
a
non-safety
related
parking
ticket.
So
that's
basically
a
parking
meter
parking
in
the
garage
or
resident
parking.
AP
If
you
get
a
ticket
once
a
year,
you
can
say
whoops
and
we'll
say
have
a
nice
day
on
us
problem
was
that
we
baked
into
it
a
condition
that
said
that
you
have
to
be
ticket
free
for
a
year.
So
as
we
operationalize
this,
we
realized
that
it's
that
created
a
condition,
a
conditionality
that
meant
that
people
that
don't
often
get
tickets
get
out
of
tickets
and
people
that
often
get
tickets.
Don't
there
was
an
equity
issue
baked
in
there.
AP
That
was
that
was
a
little
uncomfortable
to
us
and
operationally
made
it
more
complicated
too,
because
now
you're
checking
two
things:
you're
checking
did
have
they
whoops
before
and
has
it
been
a
year
and
so
up
to
to
codify
that
into
the
aims
platform
and
get
them
to
automate
this
process.
So
you
can
whoops
online
was
just
became
fraught
with
what,
if
scenarios.
AP
You
get
to
use
a
whoops
once
so.
You
use
your
whoops
in
June.
You
don't
get
to
use
another
whoops
until
June
of
the
following
year
and
that
we
can
manage
just
made
it
much
more
simple,
and
then
we
clarified
language
to
make
sure
there
was
absolutely
clear
that
the
citizen
needs
to
request
the
whoops.
It's
not
something
that
we,
somebody
gets
a
ticket
and
we
decide
because
some
of
that
was
happening
with
people
sending
in
Blue
Chips,
because
there's
this
overlap
with
blue
chips
as
sort
of
the
old
whoops.
AP
But
the
only
people
who
got
blue
chips
were
the
people
that
were
in
RPP.
So
there
was
some
confusion
there.
So
we
made
it
explicit
in
the
in
the
LA
in
the
language
of
the
ordinance
that
this
is
something
that
the
customer
the
citizen
has
to
choose.
And
then
we
also
updated
gender
references
to
make
it
not
gender
specific
housekeepings.
AP
So
this
was
just
us
kind
of
you
know
we're
pushing
a
lot.
You
know
I'm
I'm
here
and
actually
this
is
this
is
next
month,
so
I
got
more
stuff
coming
we're
here
a
lot
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
things
and
we're
probably
gonna
be
back
a
couple
times
on
some
of
these
things,
tuning
them
up,
getting
them
getting
them
right.
Oh
that's
over
here.
B
AP
About
so
this,
this
is
part
of
the
problem
is
the
messaging
was
too
complicated
like
we
kept
like
I
would
write
up
like
a
flyer
and
then
I'd
be
like
oh
we're
going
to
send
this
out.
It's
gonna
be
really
confusing
and
then
I
would
explain
it
to
somebody
and
they'd
be
like,
but
I
don't
understand
like
what
if
I
got
a
ticket
now,
what
if
I
could
it
was
just
very
like
now,
it's
just
very
simple
once
a
year,
so
we're
so
after
we
get
this
approval
we're.
AP
Actually
this
is
going
to
be
the
trigger
for
us
to
go
onto
our
website.
Go
to
our
landing
page.
Look
at
our
appeal
button
see
where
our
appeal
button
goes
get
the
language
on
the
appeal
buttons
straight
then
go
to
Ames,
say
Ames.
Can
you
please
bake
this
conditional
check
box
get
into
it?
You
know
so,
like
we've
kind
of
been
holding
off
on
doing
the
big
push
for.
Let's
see
I
spoke
this
morning
with
with
Rob
Goulding
about
saying,
hey,
we're
coming
here
tonight.
AP
F
F
AJ
The
concern
about
they
didn't
know
that
you
had
to
do
the
appeal
within
30
days,
so
people
hearing
about
it
like
oh
and
this
person
tried
in
various
ways.
You
know
communicating
in
this
and
nobody
seemed
to
know
anything
about
it.
You
know
so
I
I,
I
sort
of
reassured
that
I
sort
of
knew
and
I
I
think
you're
explaining
that
pretty
well
so,
but
but
the
question
I
have
is:
is
there
a
way
to
handle
somebody
who
has
a
parking
violation
ticket
from
six
months
ago?
AJ
AP
About
it,
we
have
to
then
push
the
appeal
on
to
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
then
the
City
attorney
can
make
that
judgment.
One
of
the
things
that
I
need
to
can't
quite
figure
out
the
flow
here,
but
I'm
either
going
to
come
to
you
or
I'm,
going
to
go
to
council
one
way
or
the
other.
We
are
trying
to
reverse
the
roles
so
that
we
actually
have
the
appeal
Authority
and
then,
if
they
want
to,
if
they
want
to
appeal
from
us,
they
go
to
court
versus
right.
Now
they
come
to
us.
AP
We
say
we
can't
do
anything.
It
goes
to
City
attorney,
they
say
we're
not
doing
anything.
I
don't
mean
to
be
disparaging
they
just
they
just
say
we're
not
doing
anything,
and
then
it
comes
back
to
us
and
then
we
schedule
the
court
date.
It's
a
very
confused
system,
so
we're
trying
to
streamline
that
too,
so
that
we
have
more
authority
to
actually
say
you
know
what
you
haven't
gotten
any
permits
you're
from
out
of
town
There's,
no
way
you
could
have
possibly
understood
this,
maybe
we'll
maybe
we'll
grant
that
people.
AP
AP
J
AP
AJ
AJ
Pete,
you
know,
I
really
don't
want
this
thing
hanging
around
my
neck.
Well,
how
can
I,
you
know
unload
this
problem,
and
so
what
can
we
do
to
help
understand?
You
know
somebody,
so
it
sounds
like
what
they
have
to
do.
Is
they
have
to
appeal
it
even
though
it's
too
late
so
legally,
they
are
not
allowed
to
appeal
at
all.
I
mean
you're
stuck
right
right.
AJ
Right
so
you've
appealed.
You
know,
you're,
six
months
later
you
hear
the
book
saying
if
it's
oh
great
I'm,
going
to
use
that
you
try
to
appeal
it
sorry,
six
months,
it's
too
long,
then
it
goes
to
the
City
attorney.
Sorry
didn't
they
denied,
then
does
it.
So
it
is
going
to
cycle
around
and
maybe
the
City
attorney
will
go.
Oh
yeah,
it's
a
whoops
thing.
It's
new!
It's
happening,
I'm
willing
to
consider
applying
it
and
not
calling
it
to
whoops,
but
calling
it
you
know
not.
You
know
wiping
out
the
ticket.
AP
AP
Yes,
but
couple
things
we're
do
we
understand
all
of
those
things?
A
couple
things
we
are
doing
that
we
have
to
talk
about.
Is
that
15
days
well
actually
instantaneously
if
you've
ever
gotten
a
ticket
with
us
before
and
you've
paid
online?
We
have
your
email
address.
So
if
you
get
another
ticket
instantaneously,
you
get
an
email
that
says
you
just
got
a
ticket
and
then,
at
15
days
we're
now
sending
out
hard
copy
letters
to
people
to
DMV
addresses
so
they're,
not
always
accurate,
but
we're
sending
out
hard
copy.
AP
AJ
AP
F
AJ
AJ
AH
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
that
report
in
this
work,
I
guess
my
question
is
relating
to
the
percent
or
like
total
number
of
whoops
eligible
tickets
that
were
actually
applied
as
such.
Is
this
something
that
everyone
is
using
and
are
aware
of,
or
are
they're
basically
people
who
are
paying
this
ticket
who
might
not
need
to,
and
if
you
have
any
info
on
like
as
the
year
went
on,
if
people
kind
of
got
wise
to
this
and
word
got
around
or
if
we
got
to
do
more
on
that
front,
it.
AP
It
definitely
get
used,
gets
used,
I,
don't
have
any
number
on
it
and
part
of
it
is
we
it
it
gets
used
when
our
staff
coaches
it
to
be
used.
Quite
frankly,
if
somebody
calls
it
and
they
say
they
want
to
pay
a
ticket,
our
staff
steps
in
and
says
you
can
whoops
this,
you
haven't
gotten
a
ticket
or
whatever
you
know
so,
but
yes,
we
we
do
need
to
get
some
analytics
on
its
utility.
I
mean
that,
because
it's
a
reality
is
it's
lost
revenue
for
the
general
fund.
C
Yeah
I
just
had
one
question
about
the
program:
I,
guess
kind
of
related
to
what
you're
saying
about
like
the
revenue
and
the
budget
related
to
it
like.
What's
the
goal
of
this
program,
then,
is
it
just
to
kind
of
be
nice
and
give
people
that
one
off
and
if
that's
the
case,
why
not
start
with
a
warning
for
our
first
ticket
like
I,
guess
I'm,
just.
AP
So
the
goal
is
educational,
okay
and,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
I'm
hoping
for
next
month.
We've
still
got
a
few
little
hurdles,
hoping
for
next
month
is
a
first
cut
at
a
alternative,
Towing
approach
to
Towing,
because
what
this
whoops
program
actually
does
is
think
about
what
happens
in
a
resident
parking
right
now
right
now,
we're
not
Towing
in
Residence
parking
for
Resident
parking
tickets,
but
we
have
the
authority
and
actually
the
requirement.
It's
shall
we're
not
doing.
AL
AP
R
AP
Do
because
we
disappointed
your
ticket,
so
we
actually
this
program,
actually
creates
a
financial
incentive
for
us
to
create
an
alternative,
Towing
architecture
to
minimize
the
amount
of
Towing,
because
if
it's
as
the
threat
of
being
whoops,
we
are
actually
financially
exposed.
It's
a
really
interesting
welcome
to
my
world.
This
is
what
I
do
all
day.
Talking
about
all
these,
you
know
unintended
consequences
of
decisions
we
make
you.
F
AP
But
we
really
think
this
is
a
really
good
program
beyond
the
feel
good
for
it.
We
really
feel,
like
you
know,
being
towed
sort
of
a
Gateway
offense.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
stepping
stone
or
a
slippery
slope.
Whatever
I
said,
I
wasn't
gonna
do
any
more
metaphors
and
with
a
list
of
messages
we
are
committed
to
Towing
less,
but
it
is
a
reality
of
our
operation
is
every
day
all
day.
AI
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
suggestion
that
you
might
have
considered
already,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
know
that
I
did
up
at
UVM
was
we
were
able
to
actually
print
things
on
the
ticket
in
addition
to
the
citation,
obviously
the
the
fines,
the
the
the
infraction
or
whatever
you
can
put
something
at
the
bottom,
that
might
say
whoops
yeah,
with
even
a
QR
code
or
even
on
the
envelopes
I'm.
Just
saying
that
that
way,
anybody
who
says
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
to
know
this.
O
AP
R
AP
And
yeah
yeah
what
you
did,
what
what
the
fine
should,
what
the
fine
is
and
what
the
tow
Authority
is.
So
it
tells
you
exactly
where
to
go
in
ordinance
to
find
the
exact
language
that
got
you
towed,
and
then
it
actually
said
so.
This
is
like
what
what
you
did
and
then
this
is
the
cost
of
the
towing
and
right
underneath
there
there's
a
link.
Well,
it's
printed,
but
it's
a
link
to
the
website
that
articulates
the
fee
structure
for
towing.
AP
F
AP
AI
AP
A
D
All
right,
so
all
that
information
is
fantastic,
I
love
that
those
tickets
are
new
and
improved.
However,
when
your
car
is
towed
and
you're
not
sure,
did
my
car
get
stolen,
I
know
Jeff
been
cheap
and
we've
had
this
conversation,
you
don't
know
because
you
just
think
perhaps
that
your
car
was
stolen.
Why
would
it
get
towed?
Because
there's
nothing
indicated
you
didn't
park
in
front
of
a
fire
hydrant.
You
know
what
street
I'm
talking
about.
It's
not
the
only
one
and
I
know
this.
AP
It's
a
safety
related
I
guess
we'd
have.
This
is
one
of
the
things,
and
this
is
what
I've
committed
to
use.
I
would
go
through
each
one
and
I've
actually
got
a
draft
of
we've
identified,
which
ones
we
think
are
not
safety
related,
and
we
can
actually
create
an
alternative,
Towing
architecture
so
that
you
would
get
that
you'd
still
get
a
fine
right.
AJ
AP
You
did
something
wrong,
but
maybe
you
don't
get
towed
that
first
time
or
the
second
time
or
whatever
we
figure
out
that
architecture
we
are
as
you
as
you
can
tell
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
all
sort
of
interrelated.
We
really
wanted
to
get
whoops
fixed
because
it
impacts
the
most
people
literally,
it
impacts
everybody
from
the
new
North
End
all
the
way
to
the
south
end,
because
anybody
parked
anywhere
for
any,
not
safety
related.
You
know
you're
at
a
meter
or
whatever
it's
there's
more
people.
We
need
to
get
that
word
out.
D
And
my
so
that
was
my
little
critique,
but
my
positive
thing
is
I.
Do
truly
appreciate
that
that
you're
really
working
on
tweaking
these
things
around
the
edges
diving
deep
into
language,
certainly
on
the
ordinance
as
we
went
through
everything
and
what's
a
policy,
what's
an
ordinance
I
learned
a
lot
so
I
really
appreciate
the
effort
to
communicate
this
out
to
the
public
with
the
whoops
and
also
figure
out
better
ways
to
not
be
this
kind
of
predatory
parking,
yes
infraction
Beast.
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that.
AP
AK
N
A
F
AP
AL
A
F
D
B
AO
F
AK
AK
Is
just
around
again
related
to
the
discussion
this
evening
around
new
ski
just
sort
of
a
push
in
the
future
for
more
work.
Around
pilot
project
ing
out,
I
know
that
was
recommended,
I
think
as
part
of
a
smaller
commandment
activity
and
didn't
end
up
happening,
but
but
see
that
happen.
I
think,
especially
as
we
look
to
the
great
Phoenix
project,
part
of
Main,
Street
and
other
assembly
projects.
B
AJ
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
First,
the
you
may
have
already
heard
about
to
name
the
shelmer
and
rap
about
I
want
to
be
ready
to
Memorial,
roundabout
and
I
I.
Don't
know
what
might
mean
to
be
done
to
make
that
you
know
something
that
our
commission
could
also
endorse.
I
could
give
the
language
I
guess
from
the
NPA
that
made
that
recommendation,
but
based
on
the
a
huge
distribution
that
Tony
reading
to
me
to
getting
that
done,
and
also
communicating
that.
AJ
That
is
an
easy
thing.
Go
to
the
website
and
fill
in
the
form
you
can
pay
by
a
check.
You
can
pay
by
I.
Guess
other
methods
as
well,
but
I
I
had
quite
a
few
people
that
were
just
not.
They
were
feeling
surprised
by
that
may
first
deadline
and
I
just
think
I
know
these
are
all
a
lot
of
velocity
on
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
mentioned
in
this
meeting
and
as
many
times
as
possible.
AJ
Whenever
you
see
somebody
on
a
recycling
day
to
put
the
little
small
move
in
knock
on
the
door,
say:
hey
it's
going
to
be
a
useful
thing
out
and
also
I
wanted
to
mention
that
I
was
told,
I
put
mine
out.
They
said
you
could
recycle
them.
You
can't
recycle
the
bin
that
they
have
unless
you
bust
it
up
and
stuff
it
into
your
bin,
and
that
was
still
sitting
there.
Yeah.
F
J
C
E
E
C
AI
B
AI
D
Okay,
not
to
bludgeon
the
recycling
toters
thing,
but
you
know
just
I
was
going
to
ask.
How
are
you
going
to
reach
landlords
and
I
see
here
that
you're
going
to
include
postcard,
mailers
bed,
Bill
inserts
social
media
ads
from
porch
forum
and
more
I
hope,
the
and
more
is
to
reach
out
directly
to
the
landlords,
because
the
tenants,
if
they
get
it,
it's
not
necessarily
going
to
mean
anything
I.
Y
Y
That's
been
in
effect
for
landlords
for
quite
a
few
years
now,
so
so
yeah.
So
just
to
underscore
I.
Think
since
it's
come
up
come
up
a
few
times,
postcards
will
go
to
all
ten
thousand
Property
Owners,
regardless
of
where
they
live.
It'll
go
inside
of
Burlington
or
outside
of
Burlington.
The
bed
Bill
insert
will
go
to
20
000
of
their
customers,
we'll
have
a
multi-hundred
dollar
social
media
ad
on
Facebook
and
Instagram,
which
we
hope
will
reach.
Y
You
know
a
wide
universe,
but
certainly
I
I'm,
hoping
to
Target
renters
via
Instagram
and
hope
that
they
are
going
to
contact
their
landlords
just
to
apply
that
extra
bit
of
pressure.
We
think
they'll
need
and
then
there's
going
to
be
multiple
front
porch
Forum
posts.
We
will
be
reaching
renters
again
with
stickers
on
the
bottom
of
their
blue
bins
in
the
month
of
March.
Y
So
when
our
crew
turns
those
bins
over
we'll
be
applying
a
pretty
bright,
yellow
sticker
that
has
as
much
information
as
we
can
fit
on
there
to
communicate
with
some
graphics
and
with
some
text
that
folks
should
be
getting
these
bins
and
if
they're
renters
they
should
be
calling
their
landlords
and
applying
that
pressure.
But
I
think
your
point
is
the
the
important
point
which
is
as
a
city.
We
need
to
apply
pressure
so
we're
reaching
directly
out
to
them
in
two
different
ways.
D
Worked
with
the
fourth
graders,
it
was
in
so
informative.
If
those
folks
could
have
been
here
tonight,
talk
about
North,
Winooski
Avenue
that
Equity
piece
whatever
they
would
have
really
been
able
to
bring
it
home.
So
I
want
thank
director
Spencer
for
allowing
two
staff
to
to
participate
in
that,
and
you
know
really
engage
in
the
comments
we
were
with
the
seniors,
who
were
very
vocal
and
as
even
as
we
we
wrapped
up
her
grabbing.
D
D
J
E
D
It's
used
more
frequently
and
it's
I
think
safer
because
of
the
sight
lines
rather
than
there's
a
mid-block
Crossing
At,
the
Gate
of
the
Redstone,
the
exit
North
Exit
yeah
of
the
Redstone
campus
Because
of
parked
Vehicles.
There
you
actually
have
to
walk
out
into
the
street
as
people
have
just
accelerated
off
the
stop
sign.
So
I
don't
know.
AD
AD
A
F
E
A
Okay,
one
clarification
in
the
packet
on
the
street
seats
program,
which
I
was
I,
was
glad
to
support.
There
was
a
subtle
note
in
there
that
I
think
gave
this
commission
alluded
to
more
Authority
for
this
commission
than
actually
exists
on
the
topic
of
who
sets
the
parking
rates
as
I
understand
it.
That's
not
us.
A
J
J
A
Thankfully
not
the
city
bins,
but
there
was
several
could
sell
the
trash
bins
hanging
out
in
the
bike
lane
on
North
Union
this
morning
for
what
it's
for,
what
it's
worth
in
one
recycling,
totor
that
it
tipped
over
and
spilling
recycling
contents
into
the
the
weight
and
balance
was
off
a
bit
and
it
dumped
Street
side.
So.
J
A
A
F
A
Very
good
thanks
for
that.
You
know.
I'll
acknowledge
here,
of
course,
that
there's
a
contentious
item
tonight
that
pass
unanimously
I,
think
it
weighed
heavily
on
me
and
probably
all
of
the
Commissioners
on
that
and
I
think
that
so
that
that
it
passes
a
sort
of
a
reflection
of
the
you
know,
the
trust
we've
built
in
you
all
and
staffs
processes
here
and
I'm
thankful
for
that.
A
Certainly
we
have
work
in
front
of
us
in
front
of
all
of
us
to
continue
the
Outreach
communication
and
Trust
building
with
a
variety
of
constituencies
on
items
like
that,
but
I
I.
Thank
you,
you
all
personally
and
your
staff
for
their
diligence
and
effort
on
that.
Amidst
a
number
of
time-consuming
issues,
you
all
are
chasing
nothing
further
on
my
ends
with
that
we
got
everybody
right.
I
will
close
out
the
commissioner
Communications
and
go
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
motion.