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00:00:00 Call to Order/Agenda
00:00:45 Public Forum
00:05:18 Consent Agenda
00:07:41 DPW Performance Metrics - Traffic Safety
00:40:54 GMT Fare Policy
01:38:06 DPW Commission Annual Report to City Council
02:05:29 Commissioner Communications
02:26:54 Director's Report
02:29:55 Adjournment & Next Meeting Date - October 18, 2023
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D
A
E
A
G
So
I
live
on
East
Avenue
and,
as
you
know,
we
had
sidewalk
repair
done
and
first
of
all,
Chapin
knows
that
the
team
from
Ireland
that
did
the
sidewalk
worked
really
well
with
the
residents
and
did
a
great
job
as
far
as
I
have
to
report
that
there's
some
pitting
in
the
concrete
which
your
cat
I
just
noticed
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
that.
So
I'm,
just
letting
you
all
know
and
I'll
I'll
talk
to
Chapin
or
I'll
text,
email
Chapin
further
with
that.
G
But
what
the
neighbors
and
I
were
concerned
about
was
the
crew
that
came
in
a
different
crew
came
in
to
do
the
cleanup
and
raking
and
picking
up
the
concrete.
They
really
did
a
lousy
job.
They
are
part
of
Ireland,
also
but
a
different
team.
They
left
concrete,
they
rate
concrete
into
the
tree
belt
and
into
people's
yards
and
Stones.
Then
they
spray
with
this
with
the
seed
with
this
paper
shredded
it's
blue.
G
So
it's
shredded
paper
as
I
was
told
compostable
with
with
grass
seed
in
it,
but
what's
happened
it
is
like
it
itself
is
like
concrete.
You
can't
go
over
it
with
a
lawnmower.
You
can't
rake,
they
did
it.
They
they
did
a
terrible
job
and
I
think
it
really
needs.
Someone
needs
to
look
at
it
and
address
it.
G
So
I
wanted
you
all
as
a
commission
to
know
this
I'm
just
making
you
aware.
I,
don't
expect
the
commission
to
do
anything,
but
I
expect
the
department
to
address
it
with
with
Ireland
so
now
I'm
going
to
switch
to
Sharon
butcher's
issue.
Okay
I'm
in
my
mid
70s
and
I
knew
that
the
sidewalk
had
some
problems.
I
had
identified
some
of
those
problems,
so
the
new
sidewalk
that
was
put
in
is
a
little
is
higher
than
the
original
sidewalk.
G
They
had
to
take
a
piece
of
my
walkway
out
in
order
to
accommodate
the
sidewalk
work.
They
had
to
do
that
like
30
years
ago
when
they
put
in
the
old
sidewalk.
So
there's
nothing
new
about
that,
but
the
replacement
piece
is
sloped
and
slanted.
It
is
a
challenge.
So
it's
ironic
that
the
new
that
the
new
sidewalk
was
created
to
deal
with,
pooling
and
unevenness
so
that
people
wouldn't
fall
and
slip
and
yet
what
you've
created.
G
For
me,
a
person
in
my
70s
is
that
same
scenario
and
I
am
one
dissatisfied
resident
if
I
was
a
person
of
means.
I
would
address
this
myself,
but
I'm
in
my
mid
70s
and
I'm
still
working
because
I
need
the
added
income
and
I'm
really
concerned
that
this
is
not
I'm
not
being
heard
and
I.
Don't
feel
that
I
don't
feel
that
anyone
has
really
seriously
looked
at
this
Chapin
knows
about
it.
G
The
director
knows
about
it,
but
it
is
unsatisfactory
and
somebody
needs
to
address
this
so
I
know
I've
gone
more
than
three
minutes,
but
I
feel
like
this
is
a
serious
issue
and
you're
leaving
an
older
resident
in
a
situation
that
is
going
to
create
her
and
visitors
the
potential
to
fall
and
slip.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
A
H
E
H
Like
draft
language,
it
says
yeah,
okay
and
then
the
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
was
the
for
the
Elmwood
Ave
motorcycle
parking
I
I'm
glad
this
is
part
of
the
consent
agenda,
I've
seen
I,
don't
know
if
it's
this
particular
resident,
but
a
resident
at
the
the
house
that
I
believe
provided
public
comment
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
confrontation
between
that
house
and
members
of
the
public
trying
to
park
there.
So
hopefully,
this
this
works
as
a
solution
for
that
particular
address.
A
H
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Antonio
vivanco
I'll
kick
this
off
and
then
hand
it
over
to
staff
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
commission
that
when
we
looked
over
our
goals
and
objectives
for
FY
24
that
there
was
a
lot
of
interest
to
dig
into
the
metrics
that
guide
the
Department's
work
and
I
was
thrilled
to
hear
that
and
excited
to
have
tonight
be
our
first
night
of
bringing
some
metrics
forward.
I
I
think
tonight
is
a
bit
of
a
light
night
and
hopefully,
in
future
meetings,
we'll
have
even
more
to
chew
on
we've
had
some
staff
transition
in
our
transportation
planning
team.
Unfortunately,
so
thanks
to
tech
services,
team
stepping
up
with
Julia
ursaki
tonight,
I'm
really
pleased
that
we'll
be
able
to
still
present
to
you
tonight
on
traffic
safety,
which
I
think
we
all
take
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts.
I
The
commission
has
the
authority
to
do
a
fair
bit
through
regulation
with
city
ordinance,
and
so
we
need
to
As
Leaders
figure
out
how
best
to
put
our
thumbs
on
the
scale
to
enhance
safety
in
our
city,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
get
this
information
out
tonight.
It
is
just
Baseline
information,
we're
not
coming
with
any
policy
recommendations
tonight
but
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
at
least
set
the
table
for
Baseline
data
to
inform
subsequent
conversations
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Julia.
J
J
All
right,
so
we
are
here
tonight
to
talk
to
kind
of
unveil
our
crash
data
dashboard,
which
is
basically
a
conglomeration
of
all
of
the
state
crash
data
for
Burlington
that
we've
made
publicly
accessible
on
our
website,
and
this
is,
as
Chapin
said,
just
kind
of
the
Baseline
data
that
we're
gonna
use,
moving
forward
to
evaluate
how
different
things
that
we're
doing
in
public
works
are
working.
So
this
is
our
kind
of
overview
of
what
this
tool
is.
J
So
the
presentation
tonight
we'll
talk
about
the
tool
itself
and
what
it
is
and
the
different
features
of
it.
We'll
talk
about
the
data
sources
and
where
it
came
from,
and
also
the
limitations
of
it
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
make
it
better.
And
then
we
have
a
couple
different
Trends
to
look
at
throughout
the
city
over
time
and
also
taking
a
closer
look
at
the
more
vulnerable
users
of
our
roads,
bicycles
and
pedestrians.
J
You
know
City
website.
This
is
the
10
000
foot
view
of
crashes
in
Burlington
the
map
itself.
When
you're
you
know
in
in
the
browser
you
can
kind
of
zoom
in
and
out
and
and
check
out
different
areas.
It's
symbolized
based
on
the
crash
severity.
So
it
certainly
looks
a
bit.
You
know,
muddled
from
here,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
in
the
browser.
So
we
can
look
at
how
the
zooming
works.
J
So
here
it
is
over
all
and
as
you
zoom
in
and
out
on
different
streets,
the
data
that
you're
looking
at
in
the
charts
will
kind
of
auto
adjust.
So
if
you're,
you
know
just
zooming
into
one
block
of
of
Union,
you
can
kind
of
see
when
different
crashes
happen.
You
can
hover
over
hover
over
the
bars
to
see
the
exact
numbers,
and
this
is
a
super
useful
way
to
look
at
the
data
that
we
have
available
through
the
state,
but
not
as
kind
of
user
friendly.
J
Up
in
the
top
right,
you
have
options
to
pick
the
years
and
if
it's
involving
a
bicycle,
pedestrian
or
vehicles,
and
then,
if
you're,
looking
at
fatalities,
injuries
or
just
property
damage
only
crashes,
and
you
kind
of
saw
this
a
little
bit
before.
But
the
different
graphs
in
the
website
show
you
kind
of
just
some
key
information
about
what
we're
looking
at
with
our
crashes,
which
is
mainly
the
severity
who
is
involved
and
there's
also
a
whole
chart
about
what
kind
of
intersection
the
crash
was
at.
J
Typically
people
will
call
and
report
if
it
is
not
severe
at
all
and
no
one
reports
it
then
we
really
have
no
way
of
knowing
about
it,
which
is
too
bad.
Then
the
next
branch
is
that
if
there
is
an
injury
or
if
it's
serious
BPD
will
send
an
officer,
they'll
assign
an
officer
to
the
incident
and
this
changed
in
2020.
J
I
And
so
why,
while
Julia's
doing
that,
I
think
from
the
data
Integrity
standpoint,
the
piece
that
we
feel
very
comfortable
about
are
the
more
severe
crashes
and
whether
those
be
fatalities
or
crashes
with
injuries
where
we
have
less
comfort
with
the
data.
Is
the
more
minor
crashes
not
resulting
in
injuries?
So
you'll
see
that
moving
forward,
and
we
will
work
on
that
mou
and
get
that
signed
so
that
all
levels
of
crashes
can
have
a
year-over-year
comparison.
J
J
J
J
We
can
kind
of
look
and
try
to
pinpoint
you
know
what
projects
happen
in
certain
years,
what's
happening
on
specific
streets
and
see
what
is
actually
making
a
difference
in
crashes
on
our
streets,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
snapshot
and
number
form
instead
of
chart
form,
but
this
so
the
all
crashes
line
looking
at
2011
compared
to
2019
there
even
was
a
reduction.
You
know
before
the
potential
you
know
fewer
crashes
being
reported
in
2020
so
that
we
thought
that
was
an
interesting
data
point.
J
Now
we're
gonna
take
a
closer
look
specifically
at
bicycles
and
pedestrians,
so
we
can
ignore
2023
because
it's
not
complete
data.
This
is
since
we
pulled
the
data,
which
was
maybe
in
May
or
June,
but
it
is
heartening
to
see
that
our
bicycle
and
pedestrian
crashes
have
been
going
down
over
time.
This
is
kind
of
opposite
the
national
Trend,
which
is
showing
more
pedestrian
crashes
over
the
same
time
period.
J
So,
as
a
little
kind
of
snippet
of
a
case
study
an
example
of
how
this
data
can
be
used,
I'm,
you
probably
are
all
familiar
with
the
road
diet
that
happened
on
North
Ave
in
2016.
It
went
from
a
four-lane
road,
two
lanes
in
each
direction
to
three
lanes,
so
one
lane
in
each
Direction
a
center
left
turn
lane
and
bike
Lanes
on
both
sides
and
a
big.
J
A
big
purpose
and
Driver
of
this
change
was
the
safety
impacts
of
changing
the
road
configuration
for
for
a
more
safe,
a
more
safe
layout,
and
you
know
I
think
often
when
we're
doing
those
initial
studies,
we're
we're
pulling
the
data
and
we're
taking
a
close
look,
and
we
don't
always
get
the
follow-up
of
you
know.
How
did
it
actually
work
so
I
think
this
tool
will
be
really
helpful
for
doing
post
evaluation
for
all
kinds
of
projects
like
this.
J
J
This
happened,
obviously
after
the
road
diet
was
installed,
but
it
was
not
at
a
crosswalk
or
it
was
at
an
intersection
that
didn't
have
a
crosswalk
at
the
time
that
now
has
a
crosswalk
and
RFB.
So
we
do
hope.
We've
been
able
to
help
alleviate
that
scenario,
but
even
with
that
that
one
fatality
story,
it's
not
necessarily
the
whole
picture
of
how
you
know.
J
J
C
J
C
C
K
J
J
J
Do
so
our
plan
is
that
every
like
January
we're
gonna
have
to
pull
all
of
the
previous
years?
No,
that's.
Okay
did
I
hit
something
we're
gonna
have
to
pull
all
of
the
crashes
from
the
previous
year
and
then
also
get
the
serious
injury
data
from
them.
So
we
can
do
it
just
in
one
in
one
swoop,
and
they
just
give
us
the
data
in
Excel
format.
It's
pretty
straightforward
to.
C
J
C
J
J
J
K
C
C
D
J
J
C
C
J
C
Another
thing
keep
mine
I,
don't
to
my
knowledge:
I,
don't
think
we
have
I,
don't
know
readily
available
data
to
tell
us
how
many
people
are
biking
or
walking,
but
anecdotally.
It
seems
like
it's
increased
over
the
past
12
years,
that
this
range
is
here
and
that
could
be
a
good
story
as
well,
if
you're
speaking
in
terms
of
like
the
risk
rate
for
things,
because
even
if
there's
the
same
number
of
crashes
but
tons
more
people
on
footer
on
bike,
that
that
crash
rate
is.
I
You
appreciate,
commissioner
Hogan
your
comment
about
data,
and
it
just
would
share
that
one
of
the
things
I'm
really
excited
to
bring
forward
to
is
that
we're
using
new
detection
software
and
cameras
at
intersections.
That's
that
are
actually
able
to
automatically
count
Vehicles,
bikes
and
pads
and
disaggregate
them.
So
we're
going
to
be
able
to
show
approaches
and
volumes
of
all
different
modes
of
traffic,
which
is
something
we
never
could
have
afforded
to
do
before.
So
we'll
we'll
bring
that
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
D
Thanks
for
the
presentation
Julia,
it's
awesome,
there
are
a
lot
of
data,
nerds
I,
think
in
this
room.
So
but
I
can
only
speak
for
myself
when
I
say
yeah,
it
was
great
to
sort
of
poke
around
in
it,
and
the
only
comment
I
had
definitely
Echoes.
Chair
Hogan
was
like
whenever
I
look
at
crash
data
I
always
want
to
know.
Okay
like
what
is
the
context
of
that.
You.
I
I
D
Right
like
that,
that
relativity
and
that
the
context
I
feel
like
is
super
important,
so
it's
really
good
to
hear
that
those
count
systems,
the
cameras
are
being
implemented
so
yeah
that
was
like
chair
Hogan
kind
of
stole.
My
thunder.
That
was
my
only
sort
of
question
comment.
Type
thing
was
just
like
that
context.
So
yeah,
it's
great,
that's
all
I
had.
C
D
A
A
B
B
H
J
Involved,
but
this
project
is
it's
it's:
it's
evolved
a
little
bit
and
it's
been
around
as
a
ccrpc
project
actually
since
before
I
started,
but
it's
intended
to
be
kind
of
an
update
to
our
plan.
B
TV
walk
bike
in
the
context
of
safety,
so
kind
of
re-prioritizing,
some
of
the
projects
that
haven't
been
done
yet
based
on
where
the
need
is
most
and
also
identifying
safety
issues
throughout
the
city
that
were
not
addressed
in
the
walk
bike
plan.
J
So
I
assume
it'll
be
a
very
data
driven
process
and
we
certainly
hope
to
integrate
all
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about.
In
terms
of
you
know,
looking
at
volumes
versus
crashes
and
roadway
type,
and
also
even
looking
at
like
what
kind
of
facility
the
you
know,
our
bike
crashes
occurring
on
streets
of
bike
Lanes
or
you
know,
sharrows
or
no
bike
facility.
So
to
kind
of
like
you
know,
dig
much
deeper
into
the
details
of
where
our
crashes
are
happening.
E
A
I
J
So
we
can
get
crash
reports
from
the
police
department
and
they
will
typically
in
the
narrative,
mention
the
like
what
kind
of
injury
it
was,
but
that's
coming
through,
like
thousands
of
okay
reports,
which
is
hard,
which
is
why
we
were
so
happy
to
be
able
to
get
the
severe
injury
category
from
be
trans
which
they
have
to
report.
It's
like
a
federal
requirement.
J
I
A
G
Hi
good
evening
this
was
very
important
and
interesting
data.
Thank
you.
So
much
BBW
department
for
collecting
all
of
this
I
I
wanted
to
ask
how
how
this
was
being
addressed.
We
know
that
you,
you
had
two
periods
of
time,
one
from
up
to
2015
or
something
and
then
one
from
2017
to
2022,
and
we
know
that
during
covid
people
didn't
move
around
as
much
and
so
how?
G
How
is
that
being
factored
into
this
all,
because
the
chance
for
accidents
was
greatly
reduced
if
you
didn't
have
as
much
traffic
on
the
roads
and
opportunities,
unfortunately
for
mishaps
and
so
I
wasn't
quite
sure
had
that
be
had
that
been
addressed
or
how
was
it
addressed
or
will
it
be
addressed,
I,
don't
know
the
answer
and
I
wasn't
able
to
figure
it
out
on
my
own.
So
thank
you.
J
G
G
We've
got
a
long
ways
to
go,
but
I'm
concerned
that
we
I
don't
want
to
make
ourselves
feel
too
self-satisfied
because
I'm
not
sure
that,
because
of
this
unknown
entity
that
I
addressed-
and
you
acknowledged
I'm-
not
sure
that
the
Improvement
is
as
significant
as
the
data
suggests
right
now
and
I
was
concerned
about
that
I
think
we've
made
improvements
and
I
can't
believe.
I
I
believe
that
those
have
reduced
the
incidence
of
accidents.
I
truly
believe
that,
but
I'm
not
sure
to
the
power
that
the
data
suggests.
K
A
I
Great
I'll
start
kick
this
off
and
we
have
with
us
Clayton
Clark,
who
is
the
general
manager
of
GMT.
Thank
you
so
much
Clayton
for
taking
time
this
evening.
Clayton
is
definitely
proving
his
his
commitment
to
public
transit
by
getting
out
every
night
this
week
at
public
meetings
was
in
Berry
City
last
night
in
Burlington
tonight,
I
serve
on
the
GMT
board,
probably
the
longest
serving
member
right
now,
which
is
a
little
frightening
and
after
I.
I
Unique,
obviously,
and
momentous
time
during
covid,
we
were
able,
through
State
support,
to
operate
Fair
free
for
a
number
of
years,
but
I
serve
on
the
finance
committee
of
GMT
and
we
are
hitting
a
much
more
financially
constrained
period
and
the
realization
and
the
reality
I
think
has
fully
set
in
with
the
board
and
the
understanding
that
the
resumption
of
fares
is
necessary
to
continue
a
robust
transit
system.
And
the
question
is
then:
how
do
we
do
that
in
a
way?
I
That's
fair
that
innovates
and
provides
new
services,
and
you
know,
provides
a
level
of
customer
service
that
we
didn't
have
previously
when
we
had
fairs-
and
you
know,
I'm
pleased
that
what
staff
has
put
forward
is
a
significant
step
forward.
Despite
it
charging
fares,
fares
are
what
unlocks
our
ability
to
draw
down
state
and
federal
dollars
and
continue
gmt's
robust
Transit
service,
so
without
any
further
Ado
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Clayton.
And
you
know
the
board
has
slowed
down
the
process
a
little
bit
as
you're
you'll
hear
tonight.
I
L
And
so
what
I
want
to
kind
of
walk
through
is
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
during
our
public
meetings.
Where
we
we
told
people
about
what
we
were
thinking
of,
so
that
we
can
get
their
response
and
and
as
Chapin
alluded,
there
have
been
a
few
changes
that
have
happened
since
then.
That
I'll-
let
you
know
about
because
this
is
still
very
much
a
work
in
progress
and
but
before
we
get
into
what's
coming,
I
kind
of
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
has
happened.
L
L
Why
is
because,
even
though
the
procurement
and
the
rollout
is
going
very
well,
there's
a
component
to
it
that
is
going
to
be
not
available
to
us
until
the
end
of
January
and
and
so
we're
now
saying
that
January
is
probably
not
going
to
be
happening
and
it's
likely
going
to
be
the
the
sort
of
Target
date
that
we're
setting
would
be
the
day
after
town
meeting
day,
so
March
March
6th,
but
because
it's
still
fluid,
you
know
we're
not.
You
know,
setting
an
official
start
date
or
anything
along
those
lines.
L
The
rural,
the
rural
Network
that
we
operate
has
different
funding
mechanisms,
different
Federal
rules
that
we
follow,
and
the
state
and
v-trans
has
made
a
commitment
to
keeping
a
rural
Transit
Fair
free.
One
of
the
reasons
why
they
can
do
that
is
that
the
cost
of
keeping
rural
Transit
Fair
free
Statewide
is
about
a
500
000
cost
we're
keeping
Urban
Transit
Fair
free
is
about
a
two
million
dollar
cost,
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
big
difference
there.
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
our
Urban
local
routes.
L
They
would
have
to
pay
up
front
for
that
or
they
could
get
a
say.
A
10
ride
pass
that
again
that
they
would
have
to
pay
up
front
for,
and
so
we
wanted
to
provide
more
modern
features
like
being
able
to
pay
with
a
credit
card
right
on
the
bus
so
that
there
would
be
Simplicity
we
wanted
to.
We
realized
that
things
were
sort
of
complicated
with
our
Fair
structure,
because
there
was
a
different
rate
for
link
routes,
a
different
rate
for
Community
commuter
routes
and
a
different
rate
for
urban
routes.
L
One
of
the
things
that
we
really
like
about
the
Gen
Fair
link
system
is:
it
lets
us
sort
of
flip
the
script
when
it
comes
to
Cost
Containment.
So
previously
we
would
have
a
that
monthly
pass.
That
was
going
to
be
your
most
cost
effective
way
to
to
use
the
service,
but
that
required
people,
as
I
mentioned,
to
outlay
forty
dollars.
Previously
it
was
fifty
dollars
for
the
monthly
pass.
L
L
The
state
legislature
did
set
a
revenue
goal
for
us,
and
so
that
Revenue
goal
was
that
we
had
to
come
up
with
10
percent
of
our
revenue
for
urban
operations
to
come
from
fares
and
one
we
just
last
week
got
some
cost
projections.
We
had
a
consultant
do
the
cost
projections
for
us,
because
this
was
a
very
more
complicated
figuring
out
than
than
we
could
really
do
with
our
with
our
data
internally,
and
what
we
found
out
is
that
we're
going
to
be
under
under
that
10
percent.
L
If
we
go
with
the
Forty
dollar
cap,
fortunately
we
will
be
right
on
target
with
a
50
cap,
and
so
our
expectation
is
that
we'll
probably
go
with
the
fifty
dollar
cap.
Instead
of
the
forty
dollars
since
we've
already
done
public
meetings,
where
we've
told
people
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
this
for
forty
dollars,
you
know
we're
going
to
do
public
meetings
again,
letting
them
know
that
yeah
we
tried
40,
but
it's
not
going
to
work
so
we'll
give
people
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
for
that.
L
L
L
Oh
I
forgot
the
important
thing
which
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
smart
cards,
and
so
we
know
that
a
lot
of
our
a
lot
of
the
the
people
that
use
the
bus
are
are
cash
based
Riders.
They
don't
have
the
ability
or
or
choose
not
to
have
a
credit
card
or
a
debit
card,
and
so
these
folks
will
be
able
to
have
all
of
the
same
price
protections
of
the
cap
by
using
a
smart
card.
L
What
we
expect
is
is
that
somebody
would
be
able
to
take
their
smart
card
and
go
into
any
CVS
any
Walmart
any
Walgreens
and
hand
over
their
card
and
twenty
dollars,
and
you
know
have
that
money
you
know,
or
whatever
a
dollar
amount,
that
they
provide
and
have
that
added
to
their
smart
card.
So,
even
though
right
now,
they'll
have
to
go
to
the
transit
center
to
add
funds
to
to
their
smart
card
in
the
future.
L
They'll
have
greater
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
all
to
to
have
a
discussion
instead
of
just
me
talking
with
you,
but
in
closing
you
know
we're
sad
to
see
Fair
free
service
go,
but
we
think
that
this
is
definitely
better
than
the
fare
collection
system
that
we
had
before
and
is
something
that
I
think
is
going
to
be.
You
know
really
bringing
us
into
a
much
more
modern.
D
H
D
L
D
L
K
D
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
just
like
totally
like
out
there
and
like
down
the
road
but
I,
guess
I'm
concerned,
because
they
sound
smart
and
useful
and
you'll
be
able
to
reload
them
and
stuff.
You
know
to
what
extent
like
is
there
a
cost
per
card?
Like
are
people
gonna
have
to
pay
if
they
lose
them
to
be
replaced
like
because
that
sounds
like
a
big
investment
that
GMT
is
making
and.
L
K
K
L
And
we're
going
to
provide
people
that
four
dollar
card
and
there
is,
and
that
would
be
like
a
credit
card-
it's
a
nice
piece
of
plastic.
It's
going
to
have
like
the
GMT.
You
know,
logo
on
it
and
and
you
look
fancy
and
one
of
the
things
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know.
Is
that
we're
insisting
that
there's
nothing
on
the
card
that
would
distinguish
between
a
discounted
ride
and
a
full
price
ride,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there.
L
Not
be
obvious
to
people
getting
on
the
bus,
there
is
also
like
a
one
dollar
Tyvek
card,
and,
and
so
our
expectation
is,
is
that
if
we
have
a
a
rider
that
sort
of
continuously
loses
their
card,
then
at
some
point
in
time
we
will
start.
You
know,
hey
we're
still
going
to
give
you
the
smart
card,
but
it's
going
to
be
this
cheaper
tie
back
card.
I
probably
won't
have
our
logo
on
it.
It
will
still
have
the
all
of
the
same
functionality.
L
K
L
K
L
L
If
you,
if
I
lose
my
card
and
I
show
up
at
the
transit
center
and
say,
hey
I
lost
my
card,
then
we'll
deactivate
the
other
one
and
reactivate
the
new
one
and
the
person
doesn't
lose
anything
and-
and
that's
also
going
to
help
with
some
of
our
organizational
work
that
we're
doing
so.
That
like
when
we
work
with
the
schools
and
the
Howard
Center
and
the
stuff
people
aren't
going
to
just
be
able
to.
You
know,
give
their
card
to
somebody
else.
L
D
I
think
it's
just
a
clarification
question
or
so
for
the
commuter
monthly
cap
and
then
the
regular
monthly
cap
are
those
separate
or
can
you
is
it
just
like
140
or
50,
say
dollar
fair
and
you
can
use
that
for
the
commuter
routes
and
that
same
chunk
of
40
can
be
applied.
Then,
to
like
the
local
routes.
D
K
L
K
D
L
E
L
Linked
to
one
individual,
but
so
you
know
I'm
sure
that,
like
families
will
probably
share
them-
and
you
know
we're
not
going
to
police
that
you
know
heavily
okay,
yeah
and
and
we're
still
gonna
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
we
have
to
figure
out
that
we
haven't
done
yet
is
all
right?
What
happens
if
you
have
a
person,
you
know
a
mom
or
dad
who
comes
on
with
three
kids.
G
E
L
K
B
F
B
And
thanks
another
great
presentation
and
really
excited
about
the
new
systems
that
you've
got
coming
in
I
just
wanted
to
I
promise.
I
won't
harp
on
the
card
system,
because
I've
traveled
to
DC
many
times
and
they
have
a
metro
card.
Yes,
I
love
the
idea
of
a
metro
card
and
be
able
to
because
what,
for
me
at
least
having
the
metro
card
with
money
on
it,
I
got
to
use
it
so
then
I'll
be
forced
into
public
transportation
rather
than
trying
to
find
another
way
to
get
around.
L
You
know,
I
think
that
people
are
going
to
find
that
this,
the
convenience
of
the
smartphone
is
really
going
to
be
what
they're
going
to
choose,
because
they'll
be
able
to
download
a
GMT
branded
app
that
gen
Fair
will
create
for
us
and
so
they'll
be
able
to
create
their
own
account
and
Set.
And
if
they've
already
got
like
payments
set
up
on
their
card,
I
mean
it'd,
be
probably
two
minutes
for
them
to
do
this
on
their
own,
and
then
it
would
be
the
same
sort
of
because
it's
a
contact
free.
L
You
know
when
you
go
to
pay
now
that
there's
the
places
that
have
the
little
dots
where
you
just
bring
it
close
by
so
they'll
just
have
to
bring
their
phone
by
it.
They
don't
have
to
have
like
the
app
specifically
open
or
and
I
think
they're
going
to
find
that
that's
like
going
to
be
the
the
easiest
way,
and
it's
also
why
I'm
not
too
worried
about
you
know
like
the
cost
of
the
smart
cards,
because
I
think
that
most
of
our
riding
population
is
going
to
choose
not
to
have
them.
B
L
B
H
C
L
L
L
You
know,
and
actually
that
was
one
of
the
the
factors
of
why
we
you
know
went
with
two
dollars
was
not
just
the
dollar
amount,
but
but
the
change
was
always
an
issue,
and,
and
so
they'll
be
able
to
do
that
and
yeah.
So
so
there
still
will
be
cash.
I
will
tell
you
that
it
cost
us
probably
double
the
money
of
the
new
Fair
system
by
making
sure
that
we
could
still
do
cash,
but
we
just
know
that
that's
a
the
equity
consideration
that
we
wanted
to
keep
provided
that
yeah.
C
C
C
It's
and
I
think
research
has
shown
is
more
important
that
the
bus
service
be
usable
than
it'd,
be
free
and
I
I
know
I.
Guess
let
me
ask
you
this
it
my
sense.
It
seems
grossly
unfair
for
our
representatives
in
Montpelier
to
request
that
we
cover
10
of
our
Urban
operating
costs,
while
covering
none
of
our
rural
operating
costs.
C
C
L
On
a
hazard
to
guess,
because
it
will
just
be
a
a
wag
but
I'll
be
happy
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
and
and
so
just
to
clarify,
we're
and
actually
Chris.
Do
you
mind
if
I
call
upon
your
GMT
expertise
to
answer
his
question?
What
what
data
do
you
think
would
because
we
could
look
at
the
transit
rate,
but
that's
going
to
just
cost
that'll
look
at
the
cost
per
ride.
I.
H
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K
K
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L
The
legislative
session
I
thought
that
there
was
a
good
chance
that
the
legislature
would
extend
zero
fare,
and
so
the
cynic
of
me
says
that
we're
going
to
get
our
Fair
service
up
and
running
perfectly
just
at
the
time
that
the
legislature
decides
that
we
really
should
be
fair
free.
You
know
across
the
state
you
know,
but
that's
the
the
cynic
in
me,
because
what
I'll
notice
is
that
the
house
transportation
there's
a
good
contingency
of
folks
there
that
think
that
fair
free
should
be.
L
L
C
I
C
That
Fairview,
you
know,
would
be
nice,
but
it's
that's
not
getting
people
out
of
private
Vehicles
right
I!
Think
research
has
shown
that
largely
replaces
trips
that
are
not
in
vehicles.
In
the
first
place,
yeah
I'm,
I'm
Frugal
I'm
not
going
to
pay
if
I
don't
need
to,
but
if
I'm
walking
somewhere
and
there's
a
bus
coming.
I
C
L
And
I
think
that
you
know
I
arrived
I
started
in
January
and,
and
so
the
board
was
just
sort
of
wrapping
up
some
of
the
discussions
about
their
budget
about
whether
whether
there
would
be
the
need
to
return
to
fairs
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
noticed
was
that
there
was
the
board
was
essentially
selecting
the
preservation
of
service
over
fairfree
like
we
could
continue
to
operate,
Fair
free,
but
we
would
have
to
give
up
service
and
the
thinking
was
that
then
that
goes
against.
You
know
climate
goals.
L
L
K
L
Of
got
lost
in
the
direction
that
I
was
going.
Oh
is
one
of
the
things
that
has
surprised
me
is
that
the
cascading
effects
that
happen
in
public
transit,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
going
to
zero
Fair
has
impacted
us
negatively.
Is
that
Medicaid
will
pay
folks,
but
we'll
pay
providers
for
transporting
people
through
the
non-emergency
medical
transport
service.
C
C
The
point
that
I
would
hammer
is
that
everyone
benefits
from
having
awesome,
reliable,
Public
Service,
whether
they're
physically
on
that
service,
yes
or
not,
if
the
person's
in
their
pursuit
of
occupancy
vehicle
behind
a
bus
that
has
20
people
on
it,
that
person
should
be
very,
very
thankful
that
there's
20
people
on
a
bus
in
front
of
them
and
not
20
other
singular
occupancy
vehicles,
and
so
the
people
in
the
city
of
the
vehicle
should
be
the
biggest
fan.
The
biggest
supporter
here
as.
C
L
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
the
GMT
needs
to
figure
out
and
Chapin
alluded
to
this-
is
that
GMT,
like
a
lot
of
municipalities,
you
know,
is
it
has
a
financial
cliff?
You
know
that
we're
looking
at
covet
funds
are
going
to
run
out
we're
going
to
need
to
find
additional
sources
of
revenue.
We
look
at
the
state
and
they're
like
hey
our
covet.
Funds
are
running
out
too
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
provide
you
any
more
for
public
transit.
L
L
You
know
a
Human
Service
I
was
very
happy
to
hear
I
used
to
work
for
Dale
the
department
of
disabilities
aging
and
independent
living,
and
they
came
and
spoke
at
the
public
transit
advisory
Council
last
week,
because
they're,
making
a
transportation
a
bigger
emphasis
of
the
state
aging
plan,
and
so
the
state
has
a
10-year
aging
plan
and
they
realize
that
you
know
older
folks.
You
know
transportation
is
a
huge
challenge
for
them
and
and
with
public
transit.
L
Because
of
that,
because
the
thing
that's
nice
is
is
that,
even
though
we
need
a
couple
million
dollars
a
year,
that's
actually
not
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
it
is
and
I
think
if
we
can
get
people
out
of
the
mindset
of
just
you
know,
buses,
you
know
going
through
town
and
that's
what
they're
funding.
C
Is
there
any
sense
making
having
a
lower
cap
for
just
local
routes
and
I
know
it's
in
the
per
per
Rider
cost
here,
there's
obviously
winners
and
losers,
and
they
appreciate
your
point
about
the
Simplicity
of
it,
but
maybe
in
the
administration
that
sounds
simpler
now,
if
I
just
stay
in
my
zone,
can
I
get
capped
out
at
20
versus
the
person's
making
out
real?
Well,
if
they're,
going
back
and
forth
on
the
link
every
day
for
the
same
price
as
I
am
going,
two
stops
downtown.
L
C
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L
C
C
C
L
So
glad
you
asked
this
because
I
skipped
over
it
for
the
for
the
for
time's
sake,
the
Gen
Fair
link
system
allows
us
to
create
a
portal
for
other
organizations
so
that
we
would
be
able
to.
Essentially
they
tell
us
who
their
employees
are.
We
then
select,
those
accounts
would
be
visible
on
the
dealer.com
portal
and
then
dealer.com
would
be
able
to
add
money
to
those
accounts
directly
if
they
so
chose,
or
we
could
send
them
an
invoice.
L
You
know
if
they
would
prefer
to
do
that,
but
this
will
actually
and
really
improve
the
options
for
organizations
to
be
able
to
support
employees
or
people
that
are
providing
services
for
or
students
yeah,
so
that
that
would
be
nice,
because
one
of
the
concerns
that
we've
had
in
the
past
is
is
that
again,
we'd
have
this
physical
past.
That
would
that
we
would
give
to
them
they
would
give
to
their
employees.
They
then
get
distributed
to
the
employees.
Friends
you
know,
and
so
plus
also
with
this
system.
I
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K
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C
A
Okay,
Family
Fare,
so
I
thought
about
this
as
well.
When
my
kids
were
little,
we
lived
too
close
to
Burlington
schools
for
them
to
get
a
bus
pass,
but
far
enough
for
kids
to
lose
their
coal
sometimes
coming
home,
and
then
it
was
like
60
cents
times
three
kids
who
has
the
freaking
coins
and
then
getting
on
the
bus
and
so
forth.
K
A
A
And
then
clarification
on
the
ages,
I
appreciate
that
and
then
back
back
to
kind
of
rural
versus
Urban
I
I.
Don't
want
this
to
sound
like
a
zero-sum
game,
because
it
shouldn't
be
right.
We're
trying
to
like
the
vehicle
ownership
costs
in
rural
areas
is
much
higher
than
it
is
in
urban
areas.
Their
energy
burdens
are
often
greater
Etc,
but
when
we
think
about
what
Chittenden
County,
what
Burlington
in
particular,
what
Burlington
taxpayers
are
investing
in
this
service,
any
investments
in
GMT?
A
L
So
all
of
the
revenue
that
we
get
from
from
fares
will
stick
within
the
urban
system,
and
so
what
will
happen
is.
Is
that
unlimited
access
payments
that
we
get
that
we
talked
about
before
those
can
act
as
a
direct
Federal
match
for
things
like
a
new
bus?
It's
a
little
more
complicated
with
with
fares,
because
it's
not
just
a
it's
treated
differently
than
local
match.
But
we
will
then
use
that
you
know
to
enhance
the
the
service
here
within
the
urban
Zone.
L
K
L
A
K
A
So
my
youngest
is
14.
she's
a
freshman
at
BHS
we
landed
at
SeaTac
Airport.
We
took
the
link
the
light
rail
into
town
traveled
around,
and
then
she
was
with
a
friend
and
they
there
they
travel
Fair
free.
Then
I
went
to
Tacoma
for
a
conference
and
my
youngest
said:
I
think
it's
going
to
be
better
for
us.
A
L
A
A
Know
I
know,
but
a
lot
of
these
kids
and
she
just
got
a
phone.
So
we'll
talk
about
the
high
school
and
middle
school
in
a
second
I.
Think
this
the
ability
to
have
these
multiple
platforms
are
going
to
make
it
easy
and
accessible
to
folks
that
it's
it's
integrated.
We
can
see
where
it
is,
and
it's
all
good
and.
L
One
of
the
things
that
the
Gen
Fair
app
will
offer
some
of
the
similar
information
is
the
transit
app,
and
so
what
that
will
do
is
it
will
give
our
we're
going
to
keep
the
transit
app
as
well,
and
so
our
Riders
will
be
able
to
kind
of
figure
out.
You
know
actually
I
like
this
app
better
or
I,
like
you
know
the
one
app
over
the
other,
and
so
we're
happy
that
that,
because
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
speak
bad
of
the
transit
app
but
I.
K
A
So
my
little
segue
into
into
schools,
so
a
lot
of
our
middle
schoolers
and
our
high
schoolers
use
the
bus.
There
are
also
a
lot
of
Elementary
skid
school
kids
who
use
the
bus.
But
let's
talk
about
the
folks
who
move
around
a
lot
more
independently
and
I
spoke
about
this
in
that
Forum,
like
the
Outreach
to
the
schools
and
the
users,
you
talked
about
doing
Outreach
to
the
community.
I
want
to
underscore
that
these
Transit
Riders
are
also
your
community.
A
Dealing
with
teenagers
is
its
own
challenge,
I
get
it,
but
I
think
it's
also
a
really
poor,
important,
really
important
audience
to
use.
Some
of
some
of
these
folks
will
still
be
Transit.
Dependent
I
mean
my
son.
Right
now
does
not
have
access
to
a
via
I
mean
he
could
have
access
to
our
vehicle,
but
we
don't
let
him,
but
but
this
idea
that
here
we
have
real
users
of
this
system
and
making
sure
that
this
change,
that's
going
to
happen.
L
A
L
I,
don't
I
think
that
we're
going
to
be
moving
away
from
that,
because
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
you
are
describing
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
still
working
out.
But
I
I'm
not
interested
in
I
want
the
job
for
the
driver
to
be
as
simple
as
possible,
because
I
want
them
focused
on
driving.
K
A
Okay
and
then
one
final
question
on
like
the
institutions,
and
so
if
you
have
BSD
about
Burlington,
School,
District,
Champlain,
UVM,
I,
don't
know
who
else
has
cards,
and
you
there's
like
the
button
that
the
driver
pushes?
How
do
you
differentiate
between
institutions
on
who's
getting
on
the
bus?
It's.
L
B
A
A
A
I
I
Allows
commissions
or
directs
commissions
to
take
care
of
work
that
in
the
charter
is
assigned
to
the
city
council,
and
so
the
council
appreciates
these
annual
reports.
We
stopped
it
during
covid
and
now
president
Paul
at
the
city
council
wants
to
restart
them
and
they
want
to
start
with
the
end
of
FY
23.
We
have
now
ended
FY
23
thanks
to
Rob
and
chair
O'neill
vavanco,
and
vice
chair
damiani.
We
were
able
to
put
together
this
summary
for
folks
and
you
know
I'll.
K
A
A
The
city
council
recommended
oh,
made
a
resolution.
Thank
you
of
expanding
youth
representation
on
City
boards,
but
before
the
pandemic,
I
think
we
had
a
couple
of
students
show
up
a
couple
of
times,
but
certainly
as
a
as
a
parent
I
feel
like
it
really
privileges
the
privileged
it's
a
student
has
to
get
here
and
not
have
any
other
work
commitments
or
any
other
time
commitments
or
homework
and
then
be
able
to
get
home,
and
even
even
with
the
advantages
of
Zoom
they're,
not
always
accessible
to
all
students.
A
A
You
know
a
small
number
of
Commissioners
and
we
can
kind
of
move
move
through
the
commission
keeping
the
numbers
so
that
we
don't
don't
reach
a
quorum
and
they
work
with
City
staff
and
present
their
own
findings.
One
was
on
Main
Street,
Great
streets,
presentation
with
the
designing
the
design
team
and
the
engineering
staff
and
GMT
and
another
one
was
a
Mobility
audit
in
the
old
North
End
and
DPW
staff.
A
Was
there
as
well
to
receive
some
of
this
information,
and
it's
I
think
an
Innovative
way
to
get
youth
participation
in
a
much
deeper
way.
It's
not
in
a
meeting
format,
but
it's
still
Rich
engagement.
So
this
is
just
what
has
been
what
we
did
a
couple
of
times
this
this
past
year.
So
those
are
my
wave
tops
of
Chapin's
wavetops.
D
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
this
is
more
of
like
a
personal
sort
of
like
taste
option,
but
the
memo
reads
like
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
so
it's
very
cut
and
dry.
This
is
the
commission.
This
is
what
it
does
and
then
it's
all
of
a
sudden
youth
engagement
like
it
felt
a
little
bit
of
abrupt
to
me.
So
I,
don't
know
like
there's
a
way
to
sort
of
nicely
segue
that
or
maybe
something
I've
wrote
in
here
like.
I
D
Put
there
is
like
what's
the
goal
or
the
objective
and
I
think
it's
great
to
include
the
youth
engagement
in
there
but
yeah
like
so
what
I
guess
is
the
question.
You
always
ask
yourself
right
when
you're
reading
something
okay
and
you
get
you
address
that
with
the
youth
engagement
but
yeah,
just
the
sort
of
like
cohesiveness
of
it
is
something
that
caught
me
off.
D
Guard
I,
think
a
tiny
bit
and
then
beyond
that
I
think
it
I
just
had
a
clarification,
question
I
think
that
was
mostly
answered,
but
this
is
specifically
on
the
work
that
we,
as
the
commission
have
have
done
and
is
not
reflective
of
how
the
our
actions
have.
You
know
led
to
outcomes
on
specific
infrastructure
projects.
I'm
just
thinking
right,
like
there
are
now
bike
Lanes
on
North,
winnewski
Avenue
right.
I
Yeah,
my
understanding
is
that
the
that
the
council
is
looking
for
what
the
commission
did
and
what
the
work
was
at
the
commission
level.
Is
you
all
the
appointees
of
the
council,
so
that
is
my
understanding,
but
I
could
give
confirmation.
We
can
act
on
this
tonight
or
we
can.
You
know,
create
some
suggestions
for
revisions
and
bring
it
back
next
month
as
well.
So
either
option
is
fine.
C
This
doesn't
need
to
be
in
there
for
director
Spencer's
comment
that
you
know
this
document
is
looking
for
a
summary
of
commission
activities,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
emphasize
to
counsel
the
importance
of
traffic
calming
to
go
hand
in
hand
with.
Are
you
reduced
emphasis
on
law
enforcement
coming
of
our
streets
and
that
you
know
it
needs
to
go
hand
in
hand
with
continued
support
for
sort
of
self-correcting
on
our
on
our
streets?.
C
A
C
E
E
E
B
Bar
yes,
almost
last
Brandon
kind
of
or
commissioner
Hogan
kind
of
stole
some
of
mine,
I
think
safety
definitely
needs
to
be
one
of
the
emphasized
things
that
we,
as
a
commission
appointed
by
the
council.
Take
it
a
very
high
priority
on
but
again
I
I
love,
the
doc
document.
I.
Think
it's
great,
as
is
I
I
only
question
two
and
and
I
know.
This
is
from
today
past
what
we've
done.
I
H
H
I
Yes,
if
we
approved
it
tonight,
I
think
it's
based
on
when
we
submit
it
to
the
city
clerk.
So
if
we
approved
it
tonight,
I
think
we'd
be
in
October.
If
we
didn't,
then
we'd
be
likely
going
in
Denver
to
the
council,
and
it's
also,
ultimately,
president
Paul's
call,
but
given
the
visibility
and
the
the
impact
that
our
commission
has
very
frequently,
we're
asked
to
present
in
front
of
the
council.
Okay.
A
K
A
K
E
E
E
A
Maybe
then
including
a
sentence
about
our
work,
includes
or
adds
improvements
in
Street
safety
and
traffic
calming
or
that
improvements
in
streets,
safety
and
traffic
calming
take
a
high
priority
on
our
work,
something
like
that
next.
In
addition,
the
DPW
commission
has
discussed
how
we
can
meaningfully
engage
the
younger
generation
so
that
youth
section
goes
right
in
the
year
review.
E
D
K
E
K
E
A
K
I
I
A
I
So
what
I
did
here
is
I
moved
the
youth
engagement
down
to
underneath
year
in
review
and
in
the
year
in
review,
I
added
the
DPW
commission
is
focused
on
ways.
We
can
support
increased
traffic
safety
for
all
Mobility
modes,
with
less
traffic
enforcement
capacity
in
our
community,
robust
traffic
calming
and
roadway
safety
improvements
will
be
critical
to
making
our
roads
even
safer.
A
B
I
C
A
C
A
E
A
G
K
E
K
I
A
C
The
lines
Stripes
look
good
got
to
see
some
the
striping
work
getting
done.
That's
at
a
really
kind
of
unrelated
heard.
Some
concerns
amongst
Neighbors
about
driver
speeds
on
Locust,
Street
I
know
it
was
re-upped
with
some
bump
outs
a
couple
years
ago,
but
the
drivers
are
still
hauling
down
the
hill.
There
I
put
up
the
I
think
it's
a
v-trans
dashboard
with,
like
the
traffic
counts
and
things
just
like.
C
I
And
we
are
you
I
can
give
you
a
quick
response.
If
you
want
please,
we
are
doing
traffic
speed
study
there.
The
tubes
have
been
put
out.
We
are
reviewing
the
data
and
cleaning
the
data
and
we'll
have
that
for
the
residents
who
have
asked
for
it
and
happy
to
share
it
with
you,
commissioner
Hogan,
and
then
we
can
determine
whether
any
additional
interventions
are
necessary
or
whether
or
not
you
know,
people
are
complying
with
the
25
mile
an
hour
speed
or
if
not,
then
we
can
look
at
additional
interventions.
I
You
know
we
are
learning
on
sloped
Hills
and
you
know
how
our
design,
speed,
humps
work
and
also
work
with
Emergency
Services.
We've
continually
worked
with
the
Burlington
Fire
Department
on
these
types
of
interventions
and
I.
Think
as
people
have
seen
what
we've
added
recently
on
birchcliffe
Parkway
as
part
of
the
paving
project,
is
kind
of
where
we've
gotten
comfortable
to
get
to
a
five
inch
or
so
raised
crosswalk
or
speed
hump,
and
that
neighbor
response
there
has
been
quite
positive
about
the
design
of
of
those
speed.
Humps
there.
I
So
I
I
think
you
know
we're
in
a
learning
process
and
constantly
evolving
and
the
fire
department's
getting
more
comfortable
with
these
types
of
tools
as
they
understand
the
tapers
allow
the
trucks
to
to
clear
the
the
speed
humps.
So
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
data
and
see
whether
any
additional
interventions
needed.
I
I
believe
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
know
exactly
I
think
we
were
doing
it
in
coordination
with
the
ccrpc,
but
I
would
need
to
double
check.
All
I
know
is
that
tubes
were
down
this
year.
I
know
residents
had
asked
for
we
wanted
to
see
the
post
construction
data
results
once
the
installation
had
been
in
long
enough.
The
traffic
had
kind
of
found
its
normal
Cadence
with
that
design.
Okay,.
C
B
So
the
comments
I
have
are:
are
all
positive,
I
like
to
think.
As
usual
today,
several
members
of
my
of
the
old
East
End
got
a
chance
to
meet
with
some
of
your
staff,
Julia
and
Maddie,
and
then
a
couple
of
other
folks
and
and
very
positive
engagement,
very
good
to
have
that
kind
of
Engagement
where
we've
got
some
neighborhood
I
won't
call
them
activist
that
might
sound
too
harsh
interested
people
who
are
are
coming
here
to
find
out.
B
F
I
E
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
I
think
in
the
consent
agenda.
That
was
a
parking
change
on
Walnut
Street
that
was
brought
to
the
project
dpw's
attention
by
IAA
I
just
want
that
issue
is
much
much
larger
than
those
parking
spaces
and
I
know.
Someone
was
planning
to
come
to
public
common
tonight.
She
didn't
but
she's
been
talking
to
Residents
about
turning
Walnut
One
Way
to
and
just
to
help
with
flow
and
drop
off
at
the
school.
E
I
E
It's
much
appreciated,
I
think
they'll
be
so
excited
to
have
those
parking
spaces
back,
but
there's
a
much
larger
industry
I
think
that
is
to
be
dealt
with
and
can
be
dealt
with.
I
think
if
so
about
30,
it's
a
magnet
school.
It
wasn't
clearly
the
parking
lot
wasn't
designed
to
be
a
magnet
school,
but
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
children
do
come
from
the
neighborhood,
so
they
can
be
walking,
they
can
biking.
E
D
D
The
teachers
are
concerned
about
parking,
so
I
think
my
general
comment
is
just
that
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
the
department
is
in
touch
with
you,
know
administrators
and
teachers
from
the
school
and
is
going
to
continue
to
work
with
them
so
just
to
sort
of
Echo
that
continued
work
and
relationship
building.
That's
good!
That's
important!
D
Another
thing
totally
separate
from
this,
but
I
was
excited
to
see
and
I.
Think
someone.
You
know
a
neighbor
mentioned
this
on
front
porch
Forum
as
well,
but
the
new
curb
ramps
on
North,
Street,
they're,
awesome,
I,
think
that
was
a
huge
Improvement.
You
know
for
Ada
That
Sidewalk
was
messed
up,
so
that
was
great
to
see
and
great
to
see
that
DPW
got
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
recognition
from
the
community.
On
that
the
other
cool
thing
I
noticed
on
North
Street
were
the
I.
D
Don't
know
what
you
call
them,
but
the
thing
the
bike
signal
triggers
in
the
ground
so
they're
now
at
every
intersection
up
and
down
North
Street
or
almost
every
intersection.
You
know
where
you
sit
on
them
and
they
change
the
light.
They
were
only
at
North
Street
in
North
Ave.
For
a
while
and
now
did
anyone
else
notice
that.
K
J
D
And
they're
like
if
you're
heading
down,
North
Street,
it
just
make
you
know
so
the
lights
turn
when
you
get
there
or
when
you
stop
on
it
anyway.
I
noticed
I
like
them.
Let's
do
more
of
that
awesome,
yeah,
so
I
think
that's
like
a
minor.
You
know
sort
of
I,
don't
know
how
minor
it
is
actually
from
the
installation
perspective,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
good
Improvement
and
then
yeah
I
won't
harp
on
this.
D
The
stepping
and
stuff,
but
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
hear
sort
of
at
the
next
meeting.
What
you're?
If
there
are
any
updates
on
that
because
I
don't
know
I'm
pretty
pretty
bummed
in
terms
of
the
the
planners,
so
yeah
I,
think
that's
all,
but
just
an
update
on
Staffing
generally
would
be
good,
I.
Think
to
hear
from
you
all:
okay.
H
I
H
Excellent,
thank
you
and
then.
Finally,
it's
it's
TDM
week
and
I
was
thinking
about
seven
months
from
now
on,
April
8th
2024
is
the
total
solar
eclipse.
That
is
a
that.
We
are
right
in
the
path
of
totality.
So
I
was
curious
to
know
what
the
city
is
doing
in
terms
of
planning
for
potentially
Mass
amounts
of
people
coming
to
the
Burlington
area.
For
this
big
event,
yeah.
I
Anything
it's
it's
got
our
attention
and
it's
actually
being
organized
by
others
in
the
city
other
than
DPW
they're,
coordinating
with
us
and
talking
about
how
the
Main
Street
project
will
interact
with
that,
it's
April,
8th
or
something
2024.
I'm
not
going
to
snub.
My
family
has
decided
to
go
to
Texas
because
they
think
it's
less
cloudy
in
Texas
and
that
they're
more
likely
to
see
it
than
they
will
in
Burlington
I'm
offended
but
I'll
get
over
it.
A
I'll
fill
the
rest
of
the
commission
on
that
later
you
know,
but
but
that
that's
one
example.
Another
example
I
had
someone
reach
out
to
me
because
there's
there's
some
tree
branches
that
were
obstructing
a
sign
on
Mansfield
Avenue
and
they
contacted
DPW
DPW
said
contact
the
City
Arborist,
the
City
Arborist
said.
Well,
we
already
did
the
trimming
contact
epw.
K
F
I
would
just
say
definitely
when
sometimes
bed
Parks
ourselves.
We
have
construction,
the
right-of-way
we're
not
often
coordinating
across
departments,
but
in
terms
of
the
experience
that
you're,
a
colleague
or
friend,
had
I
I.
Think
ultimately,
when
somebody
calls
any
City
Department,
there
should
be
a
much
smoother
handoff
such
that
the
person
leaves
that
thinking
that
we
tried
to
resolve
it.
For
them
people
don't
see
departments,
they
see
the
city,
so
I
think
you
know
there's
clearly
we
get
thousands
of
calls
and
thousands
of
c-click
fixes.
These
are
hard
to
deal
with.
F
Some
of
them
are
easy,
but
the
volume
of
this
is
hard
and
I'd
like
to
probably
better
understand
that
specific
situation
to
make
sure
we
can
resolve
how
these
calls
get
handled.
We
have
the
I
think
most
effective
customer
service
team
in
the
city.
So
with
that
said,
we
are
often
juggling
many
other
departments
work
and
that
can
also
bear
down
on
us,
but
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
resolve
that
internally,
as
I
think.
Your
point
is
and
not
show
that
to
the
public
the
public
needs
to
leave.
F
A
Thank
you,
the
homeless,
encampment
on
South
Union
Street
by
the
YMCA,
in
that
that
little
nook
by
the
stairs
on
South
Union
Street
at
that
at
that
entrance.
It's
it's
come
it's
gone.
It's
come.
It's
gone,
it's
growing
and
it's
growing
their
clothes
hanging
over
the
railing,
their
tents.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
Youth
traffic
that
goes
to
and
from
Edmonds
Middle
Ed
Menzel
into
the
library,
as
well
as
to
to
City
Market.
A
A
Okay,
thanks
so
the
Staffing
across
departments
in
preparation
for
for
snow
season.
You
know
this
is
separate
from
like
the
Traffic
Engineers,
but
just
wondering
I,
know.
I
know
we're
still
like
you
know
now
the
leaves
haven't
even
turned
yet,
but
just
thinking
about
streets
and
water
and
making
sure
that
you
know
the
the
staff
that
we
have.
There
are
all
able
to
deal
with
snow
removal
when
the
time
comes
and
what
our
gaps
in
our
staffing
are.
K
I
A
quick
update
and
then
Rob,
if
you
want
the
quick
update,
is
that
we
are
well
staffed
in
Street
Maintenance.
We
weren't
a
couple
months
ago,
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
shuffling
within
the
city
that
has
fully
staffed
up
our
Street
Maintenance
team,
which
is
great
the
number
of
folks
that
we're
hiring
don't
come
with
CDLs.
So
that's
the
challenge,
we're
needing
to
do
a
lot
more
training
to
get
people
up
and
running
for
the
plow
trucks.
K
I
To
your
homes
and
businesses,
so
we
are
likely
starting
pretty
significant
hiring
bonuses,
at
least
that's
our
intent,
we're
working
with
the
Union
to
try
to
work
that
through
so
that
we
can
fill
those
positions
by
before
the
dead
of
winter.
So
that's
where
our
greatest
burn
is
right.
Now
in
our
water
distribution
team.
I
The
sea,
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
for
apps
me
has
this
up
to
six
Water
Resources
staffers
need
to
help
out
with
plowing
operations
that
can
come
from
waste
water.
It
can
come
from
the
water
plant,
it
can
come
from
water
distribution
so
but
having
six
people
coming
from
water
to
time
where
water
is
struggling
with
Staffing,
you
know,
is
an
area
that
you
know
we're
recognizing
is
tight
and
that's
why
we're
gonna,
hopefully
bring
forward
some
very
generous
hiring
bonuses
and
some
referral
bonuses
to
try
to
fill
those
positions.
A
A
A
I
A
I
Great
I'll
be
very
quick
because
it's
late
and
my
daughter
is
going
to
bed
tonight,
one
way
or
another
North
plant
site
and
repair
I
want
to
give
an
update
to
the
commission
that
we
have
been
moving
very
boldly
ahead.
As
you
know,
we
went
from
the
pump
and
Hall
approach
to
get
waste
water
off
of
the
broken
siphon
back
to
North
plant.
I
Then
after
10
days,
we
were
able
to
get
the
bypass,
Force
main
completed,
and
now
that
is
operating,
we
are
moving
quickly
on
the
next
repair,
which
is
repairing
the
actual
sewer,
main
or
siphon
underneath
the
Winooski
River,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
trying
to
maintain
and
operate
a
above
ground
Wastewater
line
in
the
depths
of
winter.
So
we
do
have
that
RFP
out
and
I.
Think
responses
just
came
back
yesterday.
I
need
to
get
briefed
on
them,
but
we
are
gunning
for
a
construction.
I
This
fall
so
that
the
repair
under
the
Whiskey
River,
albeit
is
still
a
temporary
repair,
can
be
made
and
that
siphon
can
be
put
back
in
service.
We
really
see
kind
of
a
three-step
process.
One
was
the
Force
main
bypass.
The
second
is
repairing
the
siphon
under
the
river,
and
the
third
is
determining
what
the
permanent
effects
that
will
last
decades
will
be
and
we'll
certainly
keep
folks
informed.
We've
been
talking
to
FEMA
about
this
three-step
process.
They
understand
it.
I
Fema
has
indicated
that
they
are
going
to
support
and
participate
in
each
step
of
the
way,
which
has
been
great
we'll.
Let
you
know
if
that
changes,
but
we're
very
confident
to
have
FEMA
support
for
that
and
we'll
keep
you
posted
and
I.
Think
you
know
the
Champlain
Parkway
is
everybody
has
seen
right
outside
the
the
door
of
where
your
meeting
is
fully
under
construction.
The
shared
use
path.
I
First
coat
of
asphalt
is
going
to
go
down
in
the
next
day
or
two
and
the
contractors
ahead
of
schedule
they're
doing
a
great
job.
If
there
are
specific
issues
we
need
to
attend
to,
please
let
us
know
we're
working
hard
to
minimize
the
impacts
to
adjacent
property
owners
and
travelers,
but
the
goal
is
to
be
substantially
completed
for
this
initial
Construction
contract
from
Home
Avenue
to
Kilburn
by
the
end
of
this
construction
season.