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A
I
want
to
get
going
kinda
early,
because
councilor
Bergman
has
to
leave
us
at
5
30
for
another
city
council
meeting,
so
I
was
hoping
to
amend
the
agenda
as
published
two
to
move
the
item
number
seven
to
the
top
of
the
list
or
to
move
it
ahead
of
approval
of
the
minutes
or
right
after
approval
of
the
minutes
and
additionally
move
the
Water
Resources
organizational
assessment.
Just
after
that
and
then
public
forum.
Next,
if
that's
acceptable
to
everyone,
it
is
to
me.
C
B
A
D
A
Right
so
our
meeting
our
minutes
from
last
meeting
are
approved
and
we'll
jump
right
into
then
McNeil
Symposium
update
the
brief
update
is
we
have
scheduled
the
meeting
for
June
13th
at
contos
it'll
be
at
6,
30.
I
think
we're
tentatively
have
a
three
hour
block
6
30
to
9
30ish
sort
of
carved
out:
I've
talked
to
Zach
at
BCA,
who
manages
event
set
up
there
and
they're
apprised
of
our
needs
and
I've
also
traded
some
email
with
town
meeting
TV
for
coverage.
A
B
A
And
so
I
will.
Let
them
know
that,
in
addition
to
recording
it,
that
we'll
also
want
want
them
to
live
stream.
It
and
I'll
coordinate
that
with
with
BCA
and
event
set
up
in
case
there's
anything
special.
They
need
to
be
to
know
about,
for
the
town
meeting
TV
being
there
as
well,
and
then
the
other
big
I
guess
Gene.
Did
you
want
to
update,
give
an
update
on
some
of
the
responses
that
you've
received.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
have
got
two
of
the
three
outside
experts.
These
are
Professor
mama
and
Professor.
Rooney
Vega
at
Vargas
and
both
are
like
internationally
renowned
people
in
the
burning
of
biomass
and
I
I
think,
and
they
only
want
to
get
at
least
so
far.
Their
travel
expenses
compensated
overnight
and
you
know
travel
and
what
have
you?
B
Think
he's
a
a
planning
commissioner
Rowan
Harris
Rowan,
who
is
also
a
Forester
and
was
on
I,
believe
the
state's
biomass
task
force.
So
I
might
be
wrong
on
that.
He
was
on
one
State
task
force
on
biomass,
so
I
think
it
will
be
a
really
good
mix
of
people
and
I
have
sent
everybody
the
questions,
but
then
I
also
sent
us
as
I
was
like
seeing
how
I
would
be
communicating
about
the
format
with
Professor
Muma
tomorrow,
because
he's
asked
me
to
do
that.
B
B
B
Well,
you
got
it
now:
okay,
I
leaned
away,
so
hopefully
you
got
my
format
question
my
the
way
that
I've
approached
the
the
the
format
just
to
try
to
integrate
that
and
just
for
I
guess
public
consumption.
There
was
a
request-
that's
reflected
in
the
minutes
from
last
meeting
by
councilor
King
to
have
a
another
type
of
a
public
forum
question
and
answer
period.
And
I
tried
to
integrate
that,
like
she
had
suggested
in
that
I
believe
that
is
number
10
on
my
list.
D
A
Maddie,
if,
if
you
can
at
some
point,
post
jeans,
suggested
format,
document
and-
and
he
was
Gene-
was
referencing
a
set
of
questions
and
for
those
following
Along
online
or
here
in
the
room,
those
those
were
attached
to
our
last
meeting
agenda.
So
you
can
see
the
list
of
questions
that
we've
sort
of
refined
as
prompts
that
we'll
use
to
sort
of
direct
that
discussion
at
the
symposium,
so
I
guess
we'll
open
it
up
for
discussion
on
meeting
format.
A
A
For
instance,
if
we
wanted
to
do
introductions
of
the
panelists,
we
could
provide
in
sort
of
written
form
in
terms
of
like
a
program
for
the
evening,
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
going
through
that
and
I
didn't
know.
If
anybody
thought
that
might
be
a
good
idea,
we
could
actually
post
some
of
the
questions
and
the
and
sort
of
biography
short
biographies
of
the
various
panelists.
A
And
then
the
other
thing
that
I
had
questions
about
were
on
the
questions
we're
having
submitted
ahead
ahead
of
time
and
which
I
think
we
we
ought
to
do
because
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
solicit
questions
and
then
sort
of
curate
them
into
sort
of
thematic
groups,
and
then
we
could,
at
the
I,
think
it's
being
asked
after
the
prompted
questions
that
we'll
have.
We
would
entertain
those
questions
and
if
we
had
those
we
could
as
a
committee,
you
know
in
the
midst
of
facilitating
the
meeting,
decide
what
had
been
answered.
A
B
What
we
did
again,
because
we've
got
all
of
two
and
a
half
hours,
and
even
with
cutting
these
down
and
keeping
these
limits,
we're
at
an
hour
and
40
minutes,
yeah.
Well
we're
20
minutes
short
of
three
hours
is
what
whatever
240.
so
I
I
think
it
makes
sense.
And
then,
if
we
go
over
or
we
can
go
over,
we
can
lead
to
a
little
bit
more
time
and
and
that's
good,
so
I'm
in
favor,
of
keeping
it
at
30
and
I
happen.
To
think
that
this
is
a.
A
A
C
A
C
D
A
B
I
mean
I
think
that,
ultimately,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
people
to
ask
questions
and
for
the
panelists
to
not
be
overwhelmed
by
30
minutes
of
questions.
So
10
minutes,
it's
a
lot
fewer
questions
that
you
get
or
comments,
so
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
handle
that
and
I
think
at
this
stage
of
the
the
meeting
that
you
know
it,
we
I
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
Wrangle
yeah
and
people
can
comment.
B
A
B
D
A
E
Thanks
chair
Barlow,
we
have
division
director,
Megan
Moyer,
Who's,
Gonna
Leave.
The
presentation
I
will
just
say
that
this
is
an
important
part
of
our
proactive
work
to
plan
for
our
future
and
that
we
deserve
a
water
system
and
Wastewater
systems
resilient
and
can
stand
the
test
of
time
for
all
of
Burlington's
residents
and
businesses
and
I'm
pleased
that
we've
done
this
third
party
review
Megan's
going
to
hit
the
highlights
here.
E
E
There
are
a
number
of
macro
issues
that
we
are
working
on
and
Megan's
pulling
up
the
PowerPoint
one
is
increasing
regulation.
A
second
is
an
aging
plant
infrastructure.
All
three
of
our
Wastewater
plants
have
not
been
substantially
upgraded
in
30
years
and
we
are
also
analyzing
staff
capacity
on
what
we
need
to
do.
The
proactive
work,
not
just
the
Band-Aid
work.
So
as
a
result,
we
have
a
proposal
here
that
we'll
run
through.
F
So
thanks
Chapin,
as
we
discussed
in
our
budget
presentation,
although
I
was
the
last
one,
so
I
know
everybody
was
tired,
so
maybe
there'll
be
more
questions
tonight
broke
out
the
increases
to
our
expenses
with
the
pie
chart
and
you
know
a
significant
portion.
Are
these
proposed
Staffing
editions?
So
we
thought
it
would
make
sense
to
spend
a
little
more
time,
answering
people's
questions
and
diving
into
what
those
are
and
why
they're
proposed
and
what
the
third
party
firm
you
know
thought
about.
Those
there
are
lots
of
other
pressures.
F
Finding
some
meter
meter
issues
that
we
had
to
pay
for,
and
then
also
that
was
a
little
bit
after
the
2018
issues
with
the
Wastewater
Plant.
So
that
was
sort
of
the
first
bite
at
the
Apple
with
me
at
the
new
Helm,
really
trying
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
team
do
we
have
and
are
we
missing
some
players
in
order
to
be
able
to
play
the
game,
and
so
they
came
back
and
their
major
observations,
as
Chapin
alluded
to
sort
of
in
four
buckets
I.
F
Don't
think
it's
surprise
to
anybody
that
we
have
aging
infrastructure.
Things
are
old
and
they
are
starting
to
break,
and
this
is
compounded
by
the
fact
that
and
I
don't
have
the
rate
history
but
I'd
be
happy
to
share
it
with
you.
There
was
an
extended
period
in
the
1990s
when
there
was
no
rate
increase
for
a
10-year
period.
F
They
found
in
many
areas
that
there
is
a
lack
of
Staff
capacity
to
conduct
needed
tasks,
so
we're
able
to
keep
up
with
the
reactive
maintenance
when
things
break.
We
take
care
of
it,
but
constantly
we're
trying
to
get
to
this
level
of
preventative
maintenance,
which
does
have
the
potential
to
save
the
city
money
and,
to
you
know,
reduce
a
lot
of
the
disruptions
that
happen
when
our
infrastructure
breaks,
Beach
closures,
water
main
breaks
things
like
that,
if
we
can
just
get
on
top
of
it
and
take
care
of
it
in
advance.
F
A
really
Salient
example
that
I've
been
using
was
the
the
sinkhole
that
formed
on
North
Ave
off
of
the
Beltline,
so
that
was
a
storm
water,
outfall,
a
corrugated
metal,
pipe
stormwater
outfall.
Had
we
gotten
to
that
outfall
and
relined
that
pipe
probably
five
years
ago,
it
would
have
been
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
instead
it
broke
created
a
giant
hole
that
started
to
threaten
somebody's
property
and
ended
up
costing
us
about
350
000.
F
You
multiply
that
times
all
of
the
outfalls
we
have
all
of
the
pipes
in
the
city
and
if
we
could
ever
get
in
this
other
mode,
I
think
we
would
be
in
a
different
place.
Another
thing
that
they
had
said,
which
I
thought
was
you
know
it
was
great
for
my
staff
to
hear
was
that
we
have
amazing
staff.
People
know
what
to
do.
They
just
can't
get
to
doing
it.
You
know
which
does
cause
this
frustration
cycle.
F
The
combined
sewer
policy
revision.
We've
done
a
lot
of
combined
sewer
mitigation
work,
but
we're
not
done.
We
have
to
keep
going.
We
have
to
put
in
a
giant
tank
under
Callahan
Park.
We
have
to
find
every
other
place
in
the
city
where
we
can
reduce
storm
water
runoff.
We
need
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
the
sewage.
That's
still
backing
up
into
people's
basements.
F
When
those
happen
and
then
even
as
recently
as
last
year,
EPA
came
out
with
new
regulations,
the
lead
and
copper
roll
is
revised.
We
still
believe,
and
we
have
no
evidence,
that
there
are
lead
service
lines
anywhere
in
Burlington.
However,
this
requires
us
to
actually
go
through
our
entire
inventory,
all
of
those
service
lines
and
verify
what
the
material
is
when
we've
calculated
sort
of
what
we
have
in
GIS.
We're
still
looking
I
think
on
the
order
of
having
to
verify
about
6
000
Services,
which
we're
going
to
look
through
our
existing
records.
F
But
if
we
don't
have
a
piece
of
paper
that
says
that
service
is
copper
or
a
certain
material
type,
we're
literally
going
to
have
to
get
into
people's
homes
and
look
at
the
pipe
type
and
determine
and
record
it.
So
a
lot
going
on
this.
This
is
the
current
org
chart
just
to
kind
of
Orient
you
to
the
different
groups
over
here
is
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
operation.
F
We
have
the
drinking
water
treatment
system,
so
that's
a
crew
of
people
who
work
to
operate
that
plant
24
7..
It
is
always
staffed
typically
by
two
people
over
here
on
this
side
is
the
meter
group
so
they're
the
ones
who
are
going
in
and
making
sure
those
meters
are
working,
replacing
them
figuring
out
when
they
stop
how
to
replace
them.
There's
customer
care
so
there's
three
people.
F
We've
recently
added
some
Financial
Staffing
capacity
as
financial
assistance
capacity
with
all
of
the
loans
and,
frankly,
the
budgets
that
we're
managing
it
was
sort
of
being
juggled
between
me
and
the
Director
of
Finance,
not
Administration,
and
we
would
like
to
put
more
effort
to
that.
What
I've
shown
in
green
are
the
proposed
editions
so
over
on
the
Wastewater
side,
raftelus
did
recommend
that
we
look
at
adding
another
Wastewater
Plant
operator.
That's
likely
not
a
forever
thing.
F
The
plants
themselves
are
a
very
high
Touch
system
they're,
while
there
is
automation
because
they're
old,
because
I
think
there
was
some
value
engineering
that
was
done
in
the
last
upgrade,
they
require
a
lot
of
care
and
feeding
in
order
to
make
sure
that
those
are
running
well,
that
is
going
to
have
to
keep
happening.
While
we
upgrade
the
plant
we,
you
know
it's
not
like.
You
can
decommission
the
existing
plant
and
build
a
new
one,
because
everybody
is
going
to
be
flushing
the
toilet,
24
7..
F
There's
I
forget
how
many
water
valves
in
the
city
I
think
it's
900
and
for
the
most
part,
when
we
go
to
exercise
them
and
operate
them,
I
think
when
we
recently
did
that
on
mainstream
Street
about
30
to
40
percent
of
them,
weren't
holding.
That
means
when
we
have
a
water
main
break.
Instead
of
being
able
to
isolate
a
block
or
a
very
narrow
area,
we
have
to
keep
going
out
until
we
can
find
a
valve.
F
That's
going
to
hold
and
stay
shut,
so
from
a
customer
disruption
standpoint
being
able
to
get
out
there
and
exercise
those
valves
make
sure
they're
working
identify
the
ones
that
aren't
working,
replace
them.
That
is
something
we
have
not
been
able
to
do
and
something
that
we
need
to
do
on
the
storm
water
side.
So
in
the
report
they
talk
a
lot
about.
You
know
the
storm
water
tasks
that
are
not
getting
done,
our
stormwater
program
manager,
it
was
a
physician
I
held
when
I
came
to
the
city.
F
We
are
building
stormwater
practices,
but
the
cycle
of
checking
on
those
practices
and
making
sure
they're
being
maintained,
whether
it's
fire
on
Crews
or
by
private
properties,
is
not
happening
in
the
way
that
it
needs
to
to
make
sure
that
the
Investments
that
people
are
making
are,
you
know
actually
coming
to
fruition
out
there
in
the
field.
This
is
particularly
important
financially
in
that
we've
had
conversations
with
the
state
all
those
regulations
that
I
mentioned,
whether
it's
the
combined
sewer
reduction
projects
or
the
Lake
Champlain
phosphorus
reduction.
F
There
is
a
willingness
they
see,
what
we're
doing
and
there's
a
willingness
for
us
to
be
able
to
take
credit
for
some
of
the
stuff
that
we
have
required
people
to
do
on
private
properties.
If
we
can
ensure
that
those
things
are
being
properly
maintained.
Otherwise,
you
know
they're
not
going
to
give
us
credit
for
something
unless
we
have
it
sort
of
in
the
books
that
it's
being
maintained
and
therefore
is
doing
something,
and
then,
lastly,
in
the
what
I
would
call
sort
of
the
engineering
Asset
Management
Group.
F
And
then
the
last
one
is
a
still
haven't
settled
on
the
title
but
sort
of
a
utilities.
Inspector
coordinator
in
DPW.
We
do
have
an
excavation
inspector
who
does
get
some
eyes
on
what's
going
on
in
the
subsurface.
But
you
know
I
think
their
main
charge
is
is
thinking
about
the
paving
pavement
surface
and
we
are
we're
finding,
and
this
is
historical
for
many
many
years.
F
And
if
we
can,
we
can't
deal
so
much
about
the
past,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
moving
forward
we're
not
making
it
even
harder
on
ourselves
there's
also
by
by
creating
that
position.
It
does
take
some
pressure
off
of
the
distribution
group
who
right
now
have
to
get
pulled
from
a
job
and
go
inspect
something
instead
of
just
being
able
to
stay
and
focus
on
their
preventative
maintenance
tasks.
F
So
what
what
we
did?
Hopefully
this
is
a
helpful
visual.
Is
those
four
four
sort
of
observations
that
ref
tell
us
made
are
across
the
top
and
with
each
of
these
position
types
kind
of
checking
off
the
the
where
what
goals
we're
meeting
and
then
this
is
the
May
slash,
June
2
meeting
that
we're
at
to
answer,
questions
and
I.
Think
with
that
I
will
I
will
stop.
You
know,
even
though
it
is
a
increase
to
the
ex
the
expense
side
of
our
budget.
F
Through
a
number
of
different
measures,
we
were
able
to
keep
the
rate
increase
overall
to
6.5
percent.
There's
been
a
couple
of
years,
particularly
due
to
covet,
and
then
also
due
to
our
rate
change
where
we
did
have
no
rate
increase.
I
would
be
remiss
and
I've
talked
about
this
with
counselor
Barlow.
There
is
a
very
tough
conversation
coming
for
all
of
us
for
probably
town
meeting
2024
about
what
sort
of
bonding
we're
going
to
have
to
do
and
what
that
is
going
to
do
to
our
our
rates.
A
A
A
Now,
I'm
really
appreciative
of
how
comprehensive
it
is
and
the
work
that
went
into
it.
I
did
have
a
question
you
you
partially
answered
it
I
think
already,
which
was:
are
there
any
of
these
positions
that
we're
adding
that
are
sort
of
a
result
of
our
current
sort
of
the
state
of
the
system
that,
as
we
made
these
improvements,
Capital
Improvements,
we
would
lose
besides
the
wastewater
operator
system
that
you
already
mentioned
right.
F
I
mean
potentially
the
project
manager
and
we're
able
to
slim
down.
That's
the
only
one
that
I
can
sort
of
think
of
the
one
piece
with
that.
If
you
read
through
the
report,
they
make
recommendations,
Like
official
recommendations
and
they
sort
of
have
like
future
considerations,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
not
specifically
addressing
that
has
been
a
long-term
need
is
that
we
have.
We
have
many
facilities,
many
building
envelopes,
we
have
plants,
we
have
roofs
and
we
don't.
We.
F
F
It's
like
a
project
that
I
have
to
divert
a
water
resources
engineer
to
do,
which
is
not
the
best
use
of
their
zone
of
Genius
time
and
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
whether
that
need
Falls
away
or
not,
but
that's
something.
Certainly
we
would
keep
an
eye
on
the
yeah
and
then
the
other
one
would
be
the
plant
operator.
The
interesting
part
is
with
both
of
those
and
then
probably
even
as
recently
as
last
year.
A
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
again
for
that.
I
guess!
Is
there
any
other
questions?
I,
don't
know
if
Gene's
with
us
right
now
so
I
think
he
had
to
pop
off
I
think
he
is
he's
totally
gone.
Yeah
yeah
I
thought
he's
going
to
multitask
a
little
bit,
but
that's
fine.
He
was
there
for
the
budget
presentation.
So
yes,.
F
Find
me,
as
do
hopefully,
all
the
counselors,
if
you
know,
as
we
get
closer
to
the
as
we
get
closer
to
the
budget
approval
and
if
stuff
comes
up
or
if
you're
getting
questions
from
your
constituents,
you
know
it's
it's
a
little
bit
of
The
Benchmark.
For
me,
we're
not
Apples
to
Apples
I.
Do
like
to
point
out.
F
You
know
our
sister
brother
utility
bed,
their
overall
number
of
Staffing
I
believe
is
on
the
order
of
110
115
people
this
this
protocol,
or
this
approach
I
think,
brings
us
up
to
60
to
manage
three
things
and
a
lot
of
which
is
underground.
So
it's
not
the
only
it's
not
the
reason
for
for
doing
it,
but
it
I
think
it.
E
E
Will
be
part
of
the
budget
approval
process
and
then,
after
that,
then
we'd
bring
these
staffing
recommendations
through
that
said,
we
know
these
recommendations
are
significant.
We
want
to
have
you
have
a
chance
to
really
kick
the
tires
on
this
read
the
raftelus
report.
If
there
are
things
that
you
have
questions
or
concerns
about,
please
let
us
know
we
just
know.
This
was
significant
enough
to
give
an
opportunity
for
the
public
and
you
all
to
have
an
additional
whack
at
it.
Thanks
thank.
A
And
then
I
have
to
say
that
I
made
a
boo-boo
when
I
amended
our
agenda,
because
it
was
one
other
amendment
that
I
didn't
mention,
which
was
to
postpone
the
ordinance
on
carbon
fee.
Is
it
something
that
Council
Bergman
wanted
to
participate
in?
So
we
we're
going
to
move
that
to
our
to
our
June
meeting,
and
so
since
I
didn't
I
didn't
amend
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
to
be
proper,
I
guess
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
postpone
this
item
until
our
June
meeting.
D
A
E
A
H
H
Okay,
I
hate
to
take
everyone's
time
reviewing
it.
So
let
me
just
give
you
a
brief.
A
couple
of
comments.
I
did
submit
last
week
an
email
to
counselors
with
recommendations
for
that
format,
because
I
I
had
concerns
that
the
the
academics
had
no
time
to
actually
present
their
material.
They
were
responding
to
questions
based
on
the
previous
format,
between
sandwich
between
Burlington
electrics
responses
and
and
then
responding
to
the
academics,
and
in
any
case
it
was
just
heavily
biased.
So
it
sounds
like
you
may
have
addressed
that.
A
I
believe
that
there
is
there's
so
we
want.
We
want
to
be
respectful
of
those
panelists
that
we're
inviting
here
to
share
their
expertise
with
we're,
also
trying
to
answer
sort
of
a
narrow
sort
of
a
more
narrow
question
about
biomass
burning,
with
respect
to
McNeil
and
the
practices
that
are
used
here
for
McNeil,
not
necessarily
some
of
the
other
cases
of
biomass
burning
in
other
places.
There
are
some
things
that
are
probably
germane
to
the
discussion
and
other
things
that
may
be
more
specific
to
what
we're
doing
in
Burlington.
A
H
So
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
that
that
that
happens
and
then
I
also
think
it
would
be
really
important,
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
consider
requiring
citations
for
any
assertions
during
the
course
of
the
meeting
you
know
I
as
a
Burlington
resident
I
am
really
particularly
mindful
of
the
green
washing
on
the
part
of
Burlington
electric.
You
look
at
their
website.
There
was
recently
a
there's,
a
new
podcast
out
and
it
was
Rife
with
unfounded
assertions
and
the
public
deserves
to
know
where
that
information
comes
from.
H
So
during
the
course
of
the
Symposium,
if,
if
all
parties
could
be
required
to
provide
citations
that
are
then
publicly
accessible
after
the
meeting,
that
would
be
really
really
helpful
and
then
and
then
we
really
have
a
clear
picture.
As
a
member
of
the
pot
I
would
appreciate
that
and
I
think
that's
all
I
wanted
to
share
I'm
sorry
to
take
up
so
much
time,
but
I
am
really
grateful
that
you're
doing
this
and
I
I
came
here.
H
I
A
A
C
I
D
A
J
J
G
I
guess
so
sure,
oh
maybe
I'll
slap
you
right
here.
Thanks
come
on
hi
I'm,
Connor,
Wertz
I'm,
a
community
organizer
for
350
Vermont,
and
it's
my
first
time
here.
So
it's
great
I
wanted
to
back
up
what
what
Nick
is
saying
and
and
just
add
on
to
it
and
and
the
idea
I
think
that
striking
these
the
kind
of
biofuels
shouldn't
be
that
big
of
a
deal
I,
don't
think
that
it.
G
It
constitutes
like
a
large
percentage
of
the
new
building
heating
systems
that
are
that
have
been
coming
up,
but
they
could
in
the
future,
because
I
think
that's
like
in
the
future
Horizon
of
what
utilities
companies
might
be
doing
so
now
could
be
a
good
time
to
do
that.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
before
it's
like
before
the
companies
start
coming
to
you
and
being
like.
We
had
all
these
plans
to
do
it.
So
that's
that's
that.
J
Yeah
and
if
I
could
add
one
other
thing,
yep
pellet
stoves
in
particular
have
become
very
popular
in
certain
parts
of
the
country
and
in
fact,
across
the
world,
I
read
an
article
talking
about
how
they've
become
a
middle-class
status.
Symbol
in
London
and
London
is
having
horrible
air
pollution
problems
as
a
result,
in
addition
to
not
being
a
climate
solution,
they're
awful
for
People's
Health,
the
the
American
Lung
Association,
recommends
that
you
not
use
wood
to
heat
your
home.
J
The
department
of
our
our
own
Department
of
Health,
here
in
Vermont,
has
acknowledged
that
eliminating
wood
heat
from
homes
results
in
Improvement
in
people's
health.
So
that's
another
reason.
We
just
don't
want
these
to
proliferate
and
I
think
they
could
catch
on
in
construction
of
new
single-family
homes
they
might
be
harder
to.
They
might
not
be
feasible
in
multi-family,
Construction
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
be
concerned
about.
Thank.
A
You
and
just
so
you
know
we're
taking
up
this
ordinance
at
our
meeting,
but
there'll
also
be
opportunities
to
comment
on
the
ordinance
in
the
ordinance
committee
and
then
during
the
various
hearings
we'll
have
at
the
at
the
council
full
Council
level
as
well.
So
there's
going
to
be
plenty
of
opportunity
to
weigh
in
well.
Thank
you.
K
K
I'm
commenting
on
two
issues.
First,
of
course,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
McNeil,
but
also
Bike,
Share
and
e-bikes
in
general,
so
I'll
get
that
out
of
the
way
the
US
is
a
wild
west
for
e-bikes,
and
there
aren't
many
e-bikes
in
the
U.S
Europe,
on
the
other
hand,
has
a
maturity
bike
Market
to
match
its
mature
human-powered
cycle,
Market,
there's
no
effective
regulation
of
e-bike
mechanical
safety
or
operational
performance
in
the
US,
while
a
long-standing
European,
Union
regulation,
en15194.
K
K
K
K
K
K
A
L
L
A
A
E
Just
set
this
up
I
know
we
have
a
couple
other
meaty
items.
You
know
you've
heard
through
the
budget
process
that
we're
in
a
bit
of
a
tight
position.
You've
got
the
memo
in
your
packet,
I
think
Lee,
the
key
piece
and
I
think
we
have
actually
online
do
we
have
Ashley
she
unable
to
stick
around,
so
we
really
wanted
to
get
your
input
on
this
Fleet
fy24
recommendation,
but
understanding
that
we
all
are
going
to
need
to
work
together
to
solve
the
longer
term
issue.
M
D
M
E
M
Absolutely
of
those
setting
vehicles,
six
of
them
are
Enterprise
and
special
Revenue
Vehicles,
one,
the
the
seventh
being
the
recycling
which
each
have
their
own
source
of
funding.
It
will
be,
as
you
saw
in
the
memo
and
what
Chavin
spoke
to
know
again
with
one
Vehicles
purchased
this
year
of
the
seven
three
of
them
are
electric
vehicles
to
our
hybrid
and
to
our
internal
combustion
engines,
one
being
the
recycling
truck
and
the
other
being
a
one-ton
utility
truck
or
water
distribution.
M
M
M
M
We
are
currently
working
with
BD
to
get
a
custom
rebate
for
that
one,
because
there's
not
a
similar
vehicle
out
there,
so
they're
kind
of
working
off
of
the
previous
one.
We
did
for
Parks
making
sure
nothing's
changed
in
that
scenario,
so
that
that's
really
the
the
short
of
it
for
vehicle
replacement,
we're
not
replacing
any
heavy
equipment.
D
N
I'm
sorry,
I
I'm,
sorry,
I
apologize
for
the
technical
difficulties,
I'm,
not
really
sure
I
must
be
logged
on
as
DPW
and
I
think
that's
causing
problems,
I
I,
don't
have
anything
else
to
add
I'm
here
to
help
answer
questions.
If
there
are
any
concerns
about
any
of
the
financing
information
in
the
memo
that
you've
been
providing
today
or
yeah,
anything
else
that
you
might
need.
A
I
guess
I
have
just
a
a
couple,
so
this
this
is
much
a
much
smaller
list
than
what
we've
had
in
the
past
and
I
understand.
The
reason
for
that
is
the
sort
of
capital
constraints
that
we're
under
right
now,
yeah
well
during
the
budget
presentations.
We
we
saw
that
we
have
a.
We
have
a
short.
We
have
a
shortfall
basically
on
how
you
know
how
we're
going
to
manage
lease
payments
going
forward,
and
this
is
included
in
that
correct.
M
Yes,
it's
a
newer.
The
vehicle
deferred
list
was
also
included,
which,
in
previous
years,
we've
had
deferred
Vehicles.
They
may
not
have
been
high
priority
vehicles
that
you
know
their
life
expectancy
is
going
longer
than
what
we
suggested
certain
pieces
of
equipment,
but
that
that
deferred
vehicle
list
has
really
increased.
With
the
lack
of
funding
for
the
general
fund
and
a
majority
of
those
are,
you
know:
police
vehicles,
emergency
response
vehicles,
some
plow
trucks,
so
that
deferred
list
is
up
over
three
million
million
dollars.
As
of
fy24
and
going
forward
and
fy25.
M
N
N
Some
ideas
to
try
to
create
a
sustainable
funding
source
for
Fleet
so
that
we
can
build
up
to
be
able
to
purchase,
purchase,
Vehicles
again
and
I.
Think
you're.
All
aware
that
we
have
a
hold
this
year.
I
couldn't
hear
everything
Lee
was
saying,
but
that
we
have
a
hole
in
fy24
for
buying
buying
of
new
things.
So.
M
There's
there
should
have
been
an
ambulance
this
year,
which
they
fire
is
going
after
some
grant
funding
for
that.
So
we
are
allowed-
or
we
have
talked
about
with
CT
office-
that
if
general
fund
departments
can
find
alternate
funding
or
grants
than
with
a
conversation
with
the
CAO-
and
you
know,
give
them
permission
they
can
pursue
replacing
a
vehicle.
N
The
dollar
need
for
purchase
of
new
vehicles
annually,
regardless
of
what
the
vehicle
types
are.
So
that
is
the
you
know
without
thinking
of
how
how
big
our
deferred
list
is
now
as
a
result
of
the
decisions
we've
had
to
make,
if
we
could
get
to
a
point
of
replacing
Vehicles,
two
million
dollars
would
be
a
good
Target
for
the
city.
A
C
So
I
remember
recommend
the
board
of
finance
and
city
council
approve
the
proposed
fy24
Fleet
purchasing
list
and
authorize
the
Department
of
Public
Works
Fleet
Maintenance
to
auction
the
FY
24
replaced
Vehicles
equipment
through
various
online
public
auctions
or
trade
in
to
vendor
where
vehicle
slash
equipment
is
purchased.
If
there
is
no
public
interest
or
the
vehicle
is
of
no
value
to
the
vendor,
Fleet
Maintenance
will
have
the
vehicle.
Slash
equipment,
hauled
away
for
scrap
at
the
current
market
price.
A
A
E
A
E
I'll
keep
it
short,
I.
Think
the
big
news
here
was:
you
probably
saw
the
release
from
from
the
mayor's
office
that
the
court
case,
the
litigation
on
the
Champlain
Parkway,
was
decided
in
the
city's
favor.
This
is
the
seventh
consecutive
positive
legal
ruling
that
we've
had
against
the
same
two
litigants
for
the
Champlain
Parkway
project,
and
this
means
that
the
project
is
cleared
to
complete
its
initial
Construction
contract,
which
is
the
middle
section
of
the
project
from
Home
Avenue
to
Kilburn
Street,
which
means
Lakeside
and
Pine
Street.
A
Good
news,
yeah:
are
there
any
counselor
updates
yeah
I
just
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
some
of
the
patching.
That's
been
going
on
the
new
North
End
I
know
I've
been
a
nuisance
to
to
those
who
do
Paving
asking
for
asking
for
these
things,
but
I've
heard
I've
heard
positive
feedback
on
that
and
I
appreciate
it.
So
thank
you.
E
A
C
A
D
E
Great
generally,
as
we've
presented
to
the
ward
5
NPA,
that
there
is
an
option
that
the
city
has
to
purchase,
195
201,
Flynn
Avenue
for
the
purposes
of
establishing
either
a
cswd
drop-off
center
and
or
soil
Management
Facility
for
the
City
of
Burlington.
We
have
generally
discussed
the
project
at
the
ward.
5
NPA
talked
about
what
we'd
like
to
do,
and
the
process
and
timeline,
but
as
it
relates
to
the
negotiations
with
cswd
around
purchase
price
and
terms,
we
recommend
that
that
conversation
happen
in
executive
session.
A
Okay
and
then
we'll
about
to
go
into
executive
session,
we
will
come
out
of
executive
session
to
adjourn
the
meeting.
I,
don't
know
if
town
meeting
TV
wants
to
stick
around
for
that
or
they
could
sign
off
now,
if
they'd
like.
So
we
will
we'll
all
those
in
favor
of
going
into
an
executive
session
hi.