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00:00:00 Call to Order – Welcome
00:00:28 Agenda
00:01:41 Election of Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary
00:04:17 Public Forum
00:08:21 Consent Agenda
00:25:44 PlanBTV Walk/Bike Progress
01:14:56 Railyard Enterprise Project
02:06:07 Director’s Report - Verbal
02:08:00 Commissioner Communications
02:25:11 Adjournment & Next Meeting Date - September 21, 2022
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A
All
right
well,
good
evening,
everybody-
I
am
director
chapin
spencer,
briefly
chairing
the
dpw
commission
for
august
24th
2022.,
welcome
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
new
commissioners
that
we
have
eliana
fox
chris
dumani.
Welcome
we're
glad
to
have
you
both
and
I
will
be
chairing
the
meeting
until
we
complete
the
election
of
board
officers.
D
A
A
E
A
B
B
A
B
F
G
A
F
F
H
All
right
your
comments,
I'll
sign
up
before
I
say
something:
hi,
I'm
laurie
essig.
I
live
right
over
here
in
lakeside
and
we
have
a
parking
problem
that
has
become
exponentially
worse
with
hula
being
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think
one
of
the
issues
is
that
they
charge
for
parking
and
so
many
of
the
people
who
work
there
or
play
there
use
our
neighborhood
to
park
and
we
have
talked
to
them.
They
suggested
that
we
try
to
get
permit
only
parking.
H
That
was
their
solution,
but
I've
been
told
by
philip
that
maybe
that
isn't
the
best
solution.
So
we're
really
asking
for
help,
because
my
parking
spot
with
my
car
in
it,
for
instance,
gets
parked
in
two
or
three
times
a
month,
which
is
just
also
weird
like
why
people
do
that,
but
they
do
and
I've
gotten
to
be
very
good
friends
with
parking
enforcement.
Very
nice
woman
there.
But
it's
really
untenable
at
this
point,
and
we
would
just
like
some
help
and
I'm
here
with
my
neighbor.
I
Hello,
karen
dawson,
another
neighbor
from
wright
avenue,
central
ave,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
changes
over
the
years.
I've
been
trying
to
take
care
of
that
northeast
corner
of
central
and
wright
avenue
for
many
years
since
84
and
it's
been
pretty
peaceful
and
now
I'm
just
trying
to
make
my
peace
with
really
huge
changes
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
The
plumbers
and
the
electricians
at
120
150
bucks
an
hour
you
don't
want
them-
have
to
walk
too
far
to
their
trucks
for
parts
because
it
adds
up.
So
I
am
interested
in
doing
something
I
I
always
hated
residential
parking
to
be
honest,
and
I
never
thought
I'd
be
here
asking
for
something
like
that.
There's
another
option
that
would
work
just
to
give
us
some
kind
of
a
break.
I
I
did
communicate
with
the
hula
folks.
They
said
they
very
quickly
responded
that
they
were
well
aware
of
the
problem
they're
working
on
it.
They,
let's
see,
I
guess
they
they
did
suggest
that
we
might
try
to
get
resident
only
parking.
So
I
guess
that
that's
I
don't
know.
There's
their
best
answer
right
now,
but
perhaps
is
something
else
we
could
do.
I
don't
know
I'm
gonna
be
open
to
ideas
and
to
do.
Thank
you.
K
Sorry,
I
just
got
a
message
saying
that
I
they
couldn't
hear
me.
So
I'm
wondering
if
I
can
just
oh
for
members
of
the
public
who
may
not
have
heard
we're
in
public
comment
and
if
you
did
wish
to
speak
now
during
public
comment.
Please
use
the
raise
your
hand
feature
on
zoom
and
if
not
the
chair
mail
out
more
public
comment
later
on
during
specific
segments,
sure
well
sure,
and
so
as.
L
F
E
M
Philip
peterson
public
works
engineer,
so
this
was
one
that
our
engineering
intern
who's
not
here
worked
on.
It's
the
86
oak
street
15
minute
parking,
so
this
should
have
been
done
in
at
the
same
time
that
the
88
oak
street
15-minute
parking
space
was
reallocated
to
no
parking
which,
at
the
same
time
we
put
in
a
vehicle
loading
zone
on
interval
avenue
to
take
care
of
the
15-minute
parking.
M
So
this
was
kind
of
an
oversight,
so
a
little
surprised
that
this
is
coming
off
the
consent
agenda
but
happy
to
discuss
it.
Of
course.
So
obviously
the
situation
out
there
well
aware
on
oak
street
a
narrow
street
is
defined
as
any
street.
That's
28
feet
wide
or
less,
and
on
oak
street
in
this
area,
streets
25
feet
wide.
So
it's
this
extremely
narrow
busy
area
of
town
and
so
the
situation
there
at
86
oak
street
is
we
have
vehicles
parking
in
the
greenbelt
they
also
park
on
the
sidewalk.
M
M
Was
it
yeah,
chd,
champlain
housing
trust
was
by
their
requests,
as
they
noticed
that
we
did
not
follow
through
with
removing
that
particular
parking
space,
so
they'd,
say
hey.
We
should
actually
remove
this
parking
space
as
well.
Of
course,
there's
a
concern
that
if
we
remove
that
parking
resource,
what
will
happen
to
the
people
who
live
there,
it's
a
15-minute
parking
space.
So
it's
not
a
consistent
parking
space
for
folks,
which
is
what's
happening
right
now.
M
There
are
several
residents
in
the
city
of
burlington
that
folks
cannot
park
in
front
of
their
homes.
I
know
that
there's
a
concern
that
the
restaurant
won't
have
grab-and-go
food
pickup
right
in
front
of
the
restaurant.
There
are
several
restaurants
in
the
city
of
burlington
that
do
not
have
that.
That's
why
we
put
in
the
vehicle
loading
zone
on
intervale
to
to
alleviate
that.
So
we
want
to
restore
the
green
belt
and
make
a
kind
of
the
situation
safer
on
oak
street.
D
D
It
seems
like
there's,
maybe
needs
to
be
something
addressed
in
that
whole
stretch.
That
relates
to
the
issues
of
people
trying
to
stop
and
pick
up
their
menu
items
at
the
restaurant,
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
gentleman
who
lives
in
the
house
to
the
to
the
west
of
86
and
asked
him,
and
he
was,
as
we
were
on
the
phone
he
was.
D
I
did
talk
with
an
engineer
peterson
about
it
and
he
said
that
it's
just
not
big
enough,
and
that
may
be
the
case,
but
I'm
I
am
concerned-
and
I
know
there's
always
going
to
be
regardless
of
what's
there,
those
cars
are
going
to
be
parking
there
and
they'll
just
be
more
in
in
the
main
in
in
oak
street,
regardless,
even
though
the
sign
says
no
parking,
this
side
of
the
street.
So
I'm
just
was
hoping
that
we
could
think
of
another
creative
way
to
preserve
a
grab-and-go
spot
for
that
particular
business.
D
If
there's
an
option
of
a
way
to
do
that
and
that
you
know
that
may
may
or
may
not
be
something
that
the
commission
other
commissioners
would
want
to
have
happen,
an
assessment
of
that
and
or
an
absolute
you
know,
determination
as
an
engineer
peterson
explained
to
me,
is
it's
not
big
enough,
but
it's
probably
been
used
that
way.
So
that
was
my
reason
for
having
it
wanting
to
have
a
discussion
about
it.
You
know.
Obviously,
parking
enforcement
cannot
do
whatever
so
yeah.
D
This
is
gonna,
be
for
there's
gonna
be
cars
parking
there.
It's
gonna
be
an
unsafe
situation
forever.
As
long
as
there
is
a
that
sort
of
a
business
there,
and
so
we,
you
know
it's
just
something
that
I
thought
should
be
addressed,
and
maybe
we
should
think
about
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
that.
So
that
was
why
I
had
that
wanted
to
have
that
discussion
before
we
voted
to
remove
that
and
and
not
come
up
with,
maybe
another
option
for
for
grab-and-go
spot
there.
D
N
Hey,
can
you
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
sorry,
I
got
multi-step
here,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
kind
of
reallocate
that
green
space
in
especially
in
that
neighborhood.
I
I
like.
I
don't
like
the
insidious
nature
of
that
kind
of
vehicles
or
you
know,
have
taken
over
the
green
space.
That's
historic!
N
It's
kind
of
you
know
predates
certainly
my
my
time
on
the
commission,
so
that's
my
preference
to
kind
of
reallocate
that
space
to
green
space,
but
I
also
in
agreement
with
commissioner
overby
in
wondering,
if
there's
a
solution
for
that
grab
and
go,
is:
is
there
a
pickup
zone
that
could
be
on
interval
avenue
so
just
around
the
corner
from
from
80?
Is
it
88
oak
street
that
would
that
would
serve
that
purpose?
You
know
with
with
adequate
signage.
M
M
M
The
driveways
are
right
on
top
of
each
other
and
where
we
would
put
the
curb-
and
I
think
you
pointed
out
yourself-
you
know-
there's
a
lack
of
curb
there
and
therefore
folks
are
they
they've
been
allowed
to
use
those
spaces
for
15-minute
parking?
So
it's
like
an
invitation
for
cars
to
just
park
there.
N
So
then,
if
we
have
the
gra,
which
is
what
I
thought
I
remember
choosing
so
long
ago
about
that
that
loading
zone
that
could
be
utilized
for
for
pickup.
So
what's
the
communication
from
the
business
to
its
customers
about
utilizing
that
space
and
then
what
will
be
the
enforcement
from
parking
services
on
that
kind
of
encroachment
on
oak
street.
E
N
Leaving
their
idling
car
and
going
to
grab
grab
food,
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
situation
that
we
have
tried
to
resolve
by
having
a
loading
zone
and
we
need
the
business.
You
know
to
work
with
the
business
to
make
sure
that
there's
kind
of
clear
communication
for
their
customers,
location
and
access
to
that
loading
area
for
grab
and
go.
L
F
O
Was
just
going
to
mention
that
I
do
believe
the
business
did
recently
change
their
business
model
as
well.
So
I
believe
they
have
moved
from
moved
away
from
sort
of
in-person
dining
to
sort
of
more
catering
style
meal,
pickup
so
potentially
less
frequent
than
what
was
happening
before
when
it
wasn't
in
in-house
dining
establishment.
M
Two
restaurants
that
share
the
space
there's
actually
in
the
back
folks
that
that
make
tortillas
from
scratch.
It's
a
really
cool
business
model
that
they
have
going
there,
and
so
we
they
do
have
a
permit
to
put
in
a
parklet.
So
they
they
do
have.
I
think
one
restaurant
does
do
a
little
catering
and
the
other
does
have
in
in
space
dining,
okay,
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
would
I
too,
I
I
fight
through
there.
Quite
often
I
I
often
see
the
cars
up
on
the
on
the
green
belt,
just
parked
there
so
relocating
it.
I
agree
with
vice
chair
of
vivanco
that
having
clear
communication,
maybe
even
some
signage
in
that
location,
telling
them
that
around
the
corner.
There
is
some
space.
D
D
As
the
spot
to
stop
and
park,
and
so
that
he
supported
he,
he
did
not
want
to
have
that
15-minute
spot
changed
because
it
will
con
it
will.
It
will
contribute
to
people
parking
in
his
driveway
and
that's
probably
what
it
will
happen
and
again,
like
I
said
they
park
along
that
whole
street,
up
to
the
stop
sign.
D
In
that
block
the
opposite,
you
know
the
the
loading
zone
was
put
on
the.
I
guess
what
side
is
that
the
east
side
of
intervale
and
the
west
side?
Is
that
there's,
I
think,
just
normal
parking?
I
don't
know
if
that's
got
a
15
minute,
we
could
put
a
15-minute
spot
there
because
I
think
there's
a
there's
parking
there
as
well,
but
I
mean,
maybe
you
know,
engineer
peterson
you,
you
may
know
what
is
the
parking
on
the
west
side
of
interval
and
then
opposite.
The
new
loading
zone.
M
Right
so
there's
actually
not
enough
space
for
a
good
parking
there
there's
a
driveway
we
actually
put
in
a
curb
extension
with
bollards,
just
to
prevent
folks
from
is
a
little
bit
of
a
traffic
calming
feature,
but
also
to
prevent
folks
from
from
blocking
the
driveway
of
the
lady
who
lives
on
the
corner
there,
so
that
that
was
one
thing
that
we
had
taken.
The
initiative
on.
M
D
I
just
I
think,
it'll.
I
think
it
will
come
up
again
when,
when
you,
you
will
probably
have
potentially
the
resident,
that's
whose
driveway
will
be
the
de
facto
grab
and
go
parking
which
has
been
this
way
anyway
already.
So
I
I
I
the
commission,
it's
the
commission's
decision,
but
I
I
don't
support
it
without
having
a
little
bit
more
option,
figuring
out
where
that
grab
and
go
should
go.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening
to
my
comments
about
this.
F
F
N
E
F
P
O
F
O
F
J
L
Q
Q
I
Q
Q
Positive
improvements
that
we've
made
and
also
draw
attention
to
some
areas
where
we're
lagging
behind
so
some
key
takeaways
before
we
get
into
the
slides
we've
made
some
significant
progress
towards
the
five-year
goals,
but
about
30
of
the
projects
that
were
aimed
to
be
completed
within
five
years
have
not
been
started.
A
lot
of
the
projects
had
been
partially
completed
to
come.
You
know
compared
to
what
was
in
the
plan
b,
walk
bike
or
in
sort
of
the
study
for
that
specific
project.
Q
Many
of
the
lohang
fruit,
bikeway
projects
like
osheros
or
painted
bike
lanes
have
been
complete,
but
we're
really
lagging
on
implementing
low
stress
bike
infrastructure.
You
know
protected
bike
lanes,
separated
paths,
we're
behind
a
new
sidewalk
construction
and
then
we're
missing
some
data
and
some
evaluation
to
quantify
progress
towards
some
of
the
outcomes
that
were
noted
in
the
plan.
Q
Q
Q
Of
those
you
know
top
20
priority
intersections
that
were
identified
for
safety
improvements
in
the
plan.
Those
improvements
have
been
completed
at
five
of
those
intersections.
We've
got
partial,
complete
partial
improvements
and
nine
ongoing
study
at
five
and
then
there's
one
intersection,
shelter,
motor
and
home
ave.
Where
there's
been
no
study,
no
sort
of
progress
towards
improvements.
Q
This
is
a
map
showing
where
those
priority
intersections
are
in
the
city
and
what
the
status
is
of
those
improvements.
So
one
thing
that
jumps
out
you
know
the
winooski
outporter
got
a
lot
of
improvements,
but
we
didn't
quite
go
all
the
way
at
some
of
those
intersections.
That
represents
the
fact
that
we
did
a
road
dive
on
that
corridor,
but
there
are
further
improvements
to
be
made
there.
Q
So,
on
bikeways,
what
we
see
is
you
know
about.
43
of
projects
that
were
aimed
to
be
completed
within
five
years
have
been
completed.
20
are
ongoing
and
37
have
sort
of
seen
no
progress.
These
statistics
on
this
page
do
not
include
sharrows
or
shared
lane.
Markings
is
also
worth
mentioning
that
four
projects
were
completed
ahead
of
time
that
were
not
within
the
five
year
time
frame,
but
were
completed
within
the
five
year
timeframe.
Q
So
pulling
out
a
couple
of
key
stats.
17.2
miles
of
new
bikeways
out
of
the
goal
of
28
by
2026
have
been
implemented.
So
if
you
look
at
that,
17.2
number
we're
pretty
well
on
track,
but
you
we
do.
We
should
mention
that
8.6
of
those
17.2
miles
are
shared
lane
markings.
So
again,
we've
tackled
a
lot
of
the
low
hanging
fruit
that
was
in
the
plant.
Q
I
Q
This
is
a
look
at
the
network,
so,
on
the
you
know,
on
the
far
left,
we've
got
the
2017
bicycle
network.
That's
how
it
looked
when
the
plan
was
adopted
in
the
middle
is
what
the
plan
proposed
to
have
completed
at
this
point,
where
we
are
now
and
then
farthest
to
the
right.
You
have
the
actual
five-year
like
norse,
that's
sort
of
what
it
looks
like
right
now.
Q
Q
Yes,
thank
you.
That's
more
so
high
parking
spots.
You
know,
I
think
there
have
been
some
install,
but
it's
not
saying
the
city
is
tracking.
I
know
there's
some
interest
in
doing
some
evaluation
of
bike
parking
within
dpw.
So
that's
something
we're
discussing,
but
we
did
install
a
high
capacity
bike
parking
station
or
uvm
did
so.
This
checks
the
box
on
that
metric.
Although
we
would
certainly
really
like
to
see
a
similar
indoor
facility
installed
closer
to
downtown.
Q
Green
road
bike
share,
as
we
all
know,
is
currently
on
hold,
unfortunately,
but
it
was
great
to
see
a
bike
share
implemented,
at
least
for
a
little
while
and
when
it's
pre-implemented.
One
of
the
important
things
is
to
achieve
a
closer
spacing
of
the
stations
to
meet
that
sort
of
1
000
foot
goal
between
stations,
so
that
that
really
allows
folks
to
have
better
predictability
in
terms
of
knowing
that
they'll
be
able
to
drop
their
bike
off
easily
when
they
get
to
their
destination.
Q
There's
not
been
much
new
sidewalk
construction.
This
is
a
2026
goal,
not
a
2022
goal,
but
you
know
we
we're
not
at
the
halfway
mark,
but
you
know,
as
we
know,
the
city
is
reconstructing
a
great
deal
of
sidewalk
every
year,
which
has
been
really
great
to
see
so
just
sort
of
some
overall
progress
project
progress.
Again,
118
projects
were
proposed
in
five
years.
Q
Q
Q
So,
overall
progress,
you
know
again
about
half
the
projects
in
the
five-year
plan
have
been
completed
or
partially
completed,
about
25
and
about
half
a
quarter
of
the
projects
are
still
in
progress
or
in
planning.
30
have
not
been
started
yet,
and
some
have
been
completed
ahead
of
schedule
again.
Those
low-hanging
fruit,
bikeway
projects,
really
what
we've
been
seeing
put
down.
Q
I
mentioned
there
were
some
gaps
in
evaluation.
These
are
these.
Are
you
know,
sort
of
mixed
in
with
the
plants?
Metrics
were
some
outcomes,
so
one
outcome
was
that
storm
water
runoff
would
be
reduced
by
80.
It
doesn't
sound
like
that's
being
monitored,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
would
do
that
exactly
on
modeshare
there.
There
are
some
ways
to
you
know
to
calculate
motur,
but
it's
complicated
by
covid,
since
our
most
accurate
representation
of
moshar
comes
from
american
community
survey,
data,
which
is
only
for
commuting.
Q
L
Q
So
yeah
we
did
identify
that
maintenance
issues.
You
know
these
are
things
that
are
sort
of
outside
of
the
plan,
but
you
know
it
didn't
really
adequately
address
maintenance
issues
which
are
certainly
a
concern
for
walking
and
biking
facilities.
You
know
that's
very
relevant
to
the
union
street
issue
and
just
you
know
note
that
concerns
about
on-street
parking
have
limited
or
delayed
a
lot
of
the
bikeway
projects,
and
a
lot
of
the
projects
in
the
five-year
plan
are
intended
to
be
expanded
in
the
next
10
years.
Q
So
if
a
project
satisfied
the
short-term
alternative
in
its
scoping
study
or
in
the
plan
we
indicated
that
project
is
complete.
A
lot
of
those
projects
do
have
a
long-term
alternative,
and
so
this
is
just
noting
that
there's
more
progress
to
be
made,
even
in
some
of
the
areas
where
we're
considering
a
project
complete.
J
So
I
just
want
to
reemphasize
the
maintenance
issue.
I
feel,
like
that's
a
that's,
been
a
major
concern
with,
in
particular
with
protected
the
one
little
section
of
protected
bike
lane
that
we
have
plus
another
even
smaller
one
on
sherman
street.
The
maintenance
team
has
not
been
able
to
prioritize
that,
as
in
the
past
five
years
since
it
was
installed,
so
it
has
spent
most
of
its
time
uninstalled
or
broken,
and
so
I
feel
like
we
need
to.
We
need
to
address
that.
J
J
The
city
is
obviously
made
sidewalk
maintenance
a
priority,
but
but
I
think
the
plan
should
reflect
that
and
we
should
have
some
goals
to
to
improve
and
I'll
also
say
as
much
as
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress.
There's
still
a
lot
of
crappy
sidewalks
out
there
that
we
need
to
to
fix.
So
those
are
the
those
are
the
big
maintenance
issues.
From
my
perspective,
I
guess
one
other
one.
Is
that
the
day
the
annual
repainting
schedule
just
takes
forever
it
takes.
J
You
know
things
things
don't
get
painted,
sometimes
until
the
end
of
the
season,
and
one
just
in
time
for
them
to
be
worn
off
during
the
winter
again.
So
getting
getting
some
of
these
markings
repainted
earlier,
particularly
crosswalks,
which
are
some
of
the
things
that
lag
would
be,
would
be
helpful.
J
F
E
L
O
Q
O
B
B
I
know
that
when
we
tried
to
have
a
lot
of
the
bike
lanes
repainted
the
last
cycle,
it
was,
it
was
hard
finding
contractors
to
do
the
painting.
So
I
those
some
people
view
as
excuses.
The
reasons
I
I
get
it,
but
if
we
could
put
some
more
focus
on
that,
it
would
help
because
then
more
people
would
like.
P
L
N
N
Q
Yeah
so
plan
b
tv,
if
I'm
recalling
correctly
cites
american
community
survey
data
for
the
sort
of
base
mode
share
figures
and
we
can
still
access
that
data.
The
problem
is
that
american
community
survey
is
only
looking
at
transfer,
commute
to
work
behaviors
for
its
transportation
section,
and
we
know,
of
course
those
behaviors
change
quite
a
lot
during
the
pandemic.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
confounding
variable
in
that
data.
Q
N
Okay,
thanks-
and
I
think
you
know
if
they
were,
if
I
kind
of
had
my
my
magic
just
wish
list.
When
we
look
at
our
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure,
we
have
come
along.
We
have
come
a
long
way.
We
still
have
miles
to
go,
no
pun
intended
to
to
kind
of
continue
and-
and
there
is
greater
connectivity,
but
I'm
glad
that
we're
not
settling
for
this-
that
we
are
still
moving
forward.
N
D
Q
A
low
stress
bikeway
is
generally
determined
based
on
the
level
of
traffic
stress
on
the
street,
so
basically
how
scary
it
is,
how
scary
it
feels
to
be
a
bicyclist
on
the
street
and
then
what
the
level
of
basically
protection
and
separation
is.
That's
provided
on
the
street,
so
a
low
stress,
bikeway,
you
know
on
north
windowsill
might
look
like
a
raised
separated
bike
lane,
whereas
you
know,
if
we
were
on
route
2
out
in
essex,
it
might
look
like
a
shared
use
path.
That's
totally
separate
from
the
roadway.
D
Q
D
D
What
it
might
feel
like,
but
I'm
just
not
sure
how
you
define
it
so
you're,
so
I
think
the
answer
you
gave
me
is
is
helpful.
It's
it
based
on
the
traffic
and
the
number
of
traffic
and
the
speed
that
kind
of
thing,
whether
it's
low
strength,
whether
the
treatment
provided
for
bicyclists
is
low,
provides
low
stress,
is
you
know
relative,
in
other
words,
so
have
you
done
anything
with
the
the
main
street
intersections
that
are
the
the
crash
locations
that
are
going
to
be
involved
in
the
main
street
changeover?
D
I
didn't
see
them
in
the
maps
where
the
dots
were
with
the
red.
You
know
where
the
high
crash
locations
are
on
main
street
with
those
intersections,
I'm
not
sure.
Maybe
I
was
not
seeing
the
right
part
of
the
map,
but
what
is
what
was
happening
with
the
report
on
that?
Those
those
high
stress
high
crash
locations
like
south
winooski
and
maine.
Q
Yeah
there
have
been
partial
improvements
implemented.
I
think,
along
all
the
main
street
intersections,
as
well
as
along
all
of
winooski.
Have,
I
think,
the
mainstream
intersections
all
pretty
much
received
curve
extensions
in
the
last
five
years,
so
those
are
improvements
there,
but
there
are
further
improvements
being
planned
as
part
of
the
main
street
great
streets
project.
D
Q
D
F
A
couple
comments
on
mine,
I'm
sure.
Certainly
this
is
an
ambitious
plan
that
was,
it
was
laid
out
too,
but
being
ambitious
in
the
best
of
times.
As
we
know,
the
last
five
years
have
not
been
the
best
of
times,
but
it
will
certainly
second
the
sentiment
from
commissioner
bar
and
others
like
a
lot
of
those
green
circles,
there
are
hard-fought
and
significant
ones
for
various
pockets
of
our
city
in
places
where
the
crossing
distance
is
shorter.
F
F
To
look
back
and
say
that
yet
we
are
hitting
the
in
the
mark
on
dozens
and
dozens
of
those
along
the
way
I
mean,
certainly
that
said
the
progress
towards
completing
this
plan,
I'm
sure
it's
not
as
complete
or
satisfying
as
we
would
have
hoped
when
we
were
celebrating
getting
this
plan
into
print
five
years
ago,
and
I'm
sort
of
you
know
wondering
out
loud
about
what
the
opportunities
are.
We
don't
want
to
just
knock
on
everybody
for
oh
short
of
these,
these
targets,
but
you
know
I'm
thinking
of
things.
F
F
F
L
F
Up
while
we're
chasing
these
multi-year
projects
as
well,
another
sort
of
comment
on
on
the
data
I'm
curious
about.
I
know
this
report
spoke
to
crashes
with
with
serious
injuries
as
a
metric,
that's
being
targeted
as
it
says,
and
don't
have
great
visibility
into
data
and
crashes
with
serious
injuries.
What
did
you
have
from
the
vtrans
crash?
Query
website
are
injuries.
There's,
like
you,
can
query
for
crashes.
F
You
can
query
for
crashes
with
injuries
and
I
think
that's
something
worth
keeping
an
eye
on
as
well
that
that
data's
there
just
you
know
for
the
record
that
data
has
been
largely
flat
over
the
last
five
years
in
terms
of
the
number
of
crashes
with
injuries
in
burlington,
from
2017
like
120
124,
119,
92
118
of
the
last
five
years
of
crashes,
with
injuries
to
all
types
of
road
users
to
people
on
foot
and
on
bike.
The
number
of
crashes
per
year
is
likewise
been
about
flat
in
the
30s
each
year.
F
I
don't
certainly
I
mean
it's
safe
to
assume
any
crash
from
somebody
outside
of
a
motor
vehicle
with
a
motor
vehicle.
It's
gonna
minimum,
some
bruising
and
some
soreness.
If
not
worse,
so
I
think
things
like
that
that
are
tracked
from
the
police
crash
reports
they
make
their
way
into
the
agency
agency.
F
Transportation's
database
would
be
something
to
sort
of
keep
an
eye
on
as
well
and
certainly
aspire
to
be
closing
the
loop
and
I'm
sure
you
know,
as
we
turn
more
of
those
circles
at
intersections
to
green
in
the
upcoming
years,
we'll
get
there
and
those
numbers
will
come
down.
But
you
know
love
to
see
some
tangible
signs
of
signs
of
movement
in.
F
F
F
It's
it's
cool,
and
something
that
I
I
find
really
interesting
because
it
scores
not
just
the
existence
of
say,
a
protected
bike
lane
or
a
bike
lane
or
a
shero,
but
it
scores
how
well
the
bike
infrastructure
is
connecting
people
to
key
destinations
in
the
community,
to
hospitals,
to
schools,
to
doctors,
to
grocery
stores
etc,
and
there
are
categories
of
it
for
sort
of
social
equity
components
of
it.
If,
if.
L
F
For
those
metrics,
all
that
stuff
is
sort
of
called
out.
It's
a
neat.
It's
open
source
tools
really
takes
a
bit
of
upkeep
from
the
city
to
in
the
wiki
based
open
street
maps
data
that
drives
it
sort
of
keep
things
up
there,
but
it
is
an
example
like
metric
and
it's
hard
to
put
like
a
number
on
all
these.
That's
why
we
have
eight
eight
categories
of
metrics
that
this
report
just
spoke
to
to
that
I'll.
F
Add
some
ideas
for
a
couple
more
and
I
will
stop
there
I'll
pause
and
welcome
any
any
comments
or
reactions
from
staff
at
this
time.
I
know
you
know
we
don't
have
any
like
specific
topics
on
the
agenda,
but
if
you
have
any
sort
of
reactions
to
the
presentation
you
care
to
share
with
the
commission
welcome.
A
Thanks
so
much
to
both
the
advocates
who
presented
tonight
and
to
the
communication
at
the
commission,
I
think
we
all
can
recognize
that
we
are
in
a
different
place
now
than
we
were
seven
ten
years
ago.
The
level
of
support
at
the
commission
level
for
this
type
of
work
is
markedly
different.
I
think
the
level
of
support
from
the
community
is
really
also
advanced
from
from
previous
times.
Together
we
have
done
a
lot
and
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
the
interns
and
the
advocates
put
together
in
this
presentation.
A
I
would
challenge
any
of
us
to
find
a
plan
in
the
city
of
burlington
that
has
been
implemented
as
close
to
the
goals,
as
this
plan
has
been
and
burlington
has
previously
been
littered
with
plans
that
have
gone
very
that
have
not
gone
far
and
we
are
committed
at
the
city.
I
think
the
commission
is
committed
to
implementing
this
plan.
The
advocates
certainly
are
the
department
is,
and
we're
excited
to
continue
to
be
a
partner
in
your
success.
I
think
you
outlined
well
a
number
of
the
successes.
A
A
There
is
a
lot
coming
down
the
pike
and
obviously
main
street
great
streets
and
reconnecting
our
pine
in
st
paul
that
were
that
were
unfortunately
ripped
out
the
street
grid
60
years
ago.
Thinking
of
urban
renewal
that
we're
now
spending
our
time,
reconnecting
staff
is
is
working
hard
yeah.
I
will
say
the
one
thing
that
I
really
appreciate
about
the
presentation
tonight
is,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
alignment
in
identifying
the
challenges,
and
there
are,
I
think,
opportunities
for
us
to
work
together.
A
A
On
top
of
that
and
quick
builds
to
maintain-
and
it
is
no
surprise
to
me
that
we
are
unable
to
deliver
the
level
of
service
that
the
public
expects
for
those
projects,
and
we
were
successful
this
year
in
getting
two
additional
ftes
for
the
storm
water
and
wastewater
ongoing
maintenance
challenges.
It
was
an
easier
push
at
the
council
because
it's
funded
largely
by
water
resources,
not
the
general
fund,
but
we'd
welcome
working
with
the
commission
and
the
advocates
on
fy24.
A
A
A
You
know,
as
to
the
bollard
install,
we
really
struggle
on
the
narrow
streets
with
the
plowing
challenges
and
the
winter
snow
challenges
to
really
well
maintain
these
facilities,
which
is
why
precisely
we're
trying
a
new
facility
design
on
north
champlain
with
concrete
separated
and
buffered
bike
lanes.
So
I
am
very
pleased
with
that
design
and
think
it's
going
to
hold
up
much
better
and
will
be
a
good
test
case
for
future
low
stress
installs
on
our
streets.
So
I
really
just
want
to
thank
the
advocates
here.
A
This
is
not
the
end,
as
was
noted.
There's
a
lot
work
to
be
done,
but
there's
significant
alignment
along
all
of
us.
I
think
we'd
all
recognize
that
many
projects
have
taken
a
lot
more
energy
than
we
expected.
You
look
at
winooski
avenue
corridor
the
amount
of
public
meetings,
public
process
around
the
parking
and
having
a
just
transition
as
we're
implementing
the
bike
lanes
that
level
of
work.
It
was
more
than
what
was
originally
anticipated.
The
same
thing
happened
on
north
avenue.
A
K
S
Great
yeah
I'd
like
to
thank
jonathan
and
eric
and
everyone
else
who
had
input
into
reviewing
the
plan.
I
was
involved
with
this,
as
well
as
the
ward
one
walk
bike
council
representative
and
I
just
took
a
couple
short
notes.
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
big
things
we
always
run
into
whenever
we
try
to
implement.
One
of
these
plans
on
here
is
the
parking
aspect.
S
The
plan
has
approved
for
future
implementation
gets
rid
of
that,
but
it
doesn't
exactly
address
where
those
cars
go.
But
this
is
the
same
thing
on
flynn,
ave
on
north
winooski
ave,
a
number
of
projects.
So,
if
we're
going
to
make
any
progress,
we
really
have
to
think
how
to
address
where
a
car
is
going
to
be
parked
or
to
educate
people
that
allowing
this
infrastructure
to
be
implemented
will
allow
for
less
cars
to
be
in
the
area.
S
So
you
really
need
to
be
able
to
staff
up
wintertime,
employees
and
equipment
for
that,
if
it's
cleared
in
a
reasonable
manner,
I
see
people
often
lagging
24
hours
behind
with
c-click
fist
issues
that
their
sidewalk
hasn't
been
plowed,
but
I've
never
seen
a
road,
not
plowed
for
24
hours.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
makes
a
big
difference
in
the
same
thing
with
like
colchester
outside
path.
S
It
was
plowed
with
a
sidewalk
plow,
not
a
big
pickup
truck,
and
it
was
only
half
the
path
and
after
a
while,
it
got
filled
in
and
put
in
an
issue
eventually
that
got
cleared.
But
if
you
build
something
like
that,
like
a
mansfield
ab
side
path
of
colchester
outside
path,
I
would
expect
it
to
be
clear
all
year,
so
you
have
to
have
the
people
to
do
that.
So
I
know
part
of
this
is
building
it,
but
definitely
maintaining
it
afterwards.
S
We
have
to
think
about
how
to
fund
the
staff
appropriately
and
have
the
right
people
three
for
the
low
stress,
I
just
say
think
about
trying
to
bike
around
with
a
young
child
to
get
them
to
school
and
then
think,
if
something's
low
stress,
I
often
have
to
take
very
out
of
my
way
routes
or
slow
routes
to
keep
myself
from
putting
myself
into
a
situation.
We
call
high
stress
with
you
know
a
young
child
and
say
a
dump
truck
or
whatever
else
going
three
feet
away
from
you
unprotected.
S
I
always
joke
like
I
can:
dump
my
bike
and
jump
into
the
sidewalk,
but
if
I
have
a
child
on
there,
I
cannot
do
that
and
so
my
level
of
risk
goes
way
up
once
I
have
another
person
on
my
bike
and
very
last
thing
if
we
could
get
a
one
functional
roundabout
somewhere
in
the
city,
that's
high
visibility.
So
people
understand
that,
so
we
could
do
that
in
the
future.
S
A
I
F
I
T
Yeah,
so
I
champion's
comments
were
spot-on
in
terms
of
the
talking
points,
I
was
seeking
to
express
one
of
the
things
that
we
encounter.
Sometimes
is
we
try
to
make
a
bike
lane
fit
within
a
space
it
just
it's
not
really
made
for
that
space
and
is
not
user-friendly
from
all
classes
of
users,
and
it
really
requires
significant
capital
reinvestment,
both
moving,
curb
and
potentially
moving
utility
poles,
replanting
trees,
so
and
so
forth.
T
So
there's
significant
cost
to
go
that
so
we're
making
very
constrained
choices
about
how
these
facilities
are
developed
so
that
that
continues
to
be
a
challenge
along
with
the
commentary
about
parking
parking,
seems
to
always
be
the
highest
premium
that
we're
encountering
when
we
start
having
these
public
conversations,
along
with
the
fact
that
we're
really
transitioning
our
operational
opera
teams
to
maintain
systems
that
aren't
aren't
necessarily
resourced.
In
the
same
way,
they
should
be
as
we
grow
and
expand
these
facilities.
So
chapin
mentioned
that
and
we've
pushed
for
those
things,
but
they
don't.
T
We
don't
always
get
what
we
want.
When
we
first
ask
it
takes
years
of
commitment
to
kind
of
continue
to
chase
that,
so
these
are
things
that
we're
doing,
but
unfortunately
it
takes
significant
amount
of
resource
and
money
to
transition
from
a
street
network.
That's
devised
for
horse
and
buggies
that
went
from
horse
and
buggies
to
cars
and
out,
of
course,
down
to
cars
and
bikes
and
other
modes.
F
A
A
A
We
are
on
a
fast
timeline,
we're
looking
for
the
city
council
to
weigh
in
on
a
preferred
alternative
in
september
after
a
public
meeting
we'll
get
into
the
detail
here.
So
it's
really
important
that
you
give
us
feedback
tonight,
but
also
in
the
coming
weeks
as
one.
We
really
need
that
preferred
alternative
to
start
getting
to
the
level
of
design
detail
that
the
public
is
seeking
at
this
time,
I'll
turn
it
over
the
team.
U
U
Olivia
darice
here
she
has
also
assisted
me,
a
public
works
engineer
with
dpw
and
she's
helping
us
take
on
this
undertaking
and
lauren
baldwin.
Obviously,
city
engineer
on
call,
so
we
were
sitting
here.
We
a
little
background
previously
had
been
to
the
project
team
had
been
here
to
the
commission
to
present
an
update
on
this
project
back
in
march
of
2021.
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Since
that
time
we
have
moved
forward
and
in
the
sorry,
the
summer
yeah
in
july,
we
came
and
went
and
got
an
rfq
out
a
request
for
qualifications
to
get
a
consultant
on
board.
To
continue
on
this
work
and
in
the
fall
we
brought
on
stantec
to
assist
us
in
this
project,
and
so
since
stantec
has
been
coming
has
joined.
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U
U
Scoping
study
was
completed,
looking
at
this
corridor
of
the
city
and
kind
of
identifying
what
might
be
an
option
to
provide
improvements
that
the
city
could
definitely
use.
As
the
project
went
on
in
2017,
I
believe
his
council
had
kind
of
agreed
to
move
forward
with
the
supplemental
scoping
of
the
alternatives
which
narrowed
down
a
selection
from
I
don't
have
the
exact
number.
There
was
several
alternative
options
down
to
a
three
option:
selection
from
that
which
was
released
in
2020.
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The
supplemental
scoping
study
this
we
have
started
as
the
next
phase,
which
is
looking
at
those
three
alternatives,
plus
a
no
build
option
and
comparing
those
underneath
the
nipple
lens
to
look
for
a
preferred
alternative
of
those
potential,
four
options
that
we
would
then
submit
in
our
nepa
process,
and
so
ultimately,
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
with
you
a
little
bit
of
what
we've
come
across.
What
we're
looking
at
and
what
is
looking
to
be
the
preferred
alternative
of
those
four
options
and
look
for
any
feedback
that
you
may
have.
U
So
of
this,
and
through
the
pal,
you
know
the
purpose
and
need
so
what
we're
looking
for
in
this
project.
You
know
we're
looking
for
to
support
economic
development
in
the
area,
we're
looking
for
improved
livability
for
the
surrounding
communities,
we're
also
looking
to
enhance
the
multimodal
facet
of
transportation
in
that
corridor.
As
we
know,
you
know,
biking
up
pine
street
is
not
necessarily
the
best
when
it's
busy
traffic-
and
you
know
potential
option.
U
Alternative-
may
be
very
preferred
as
as
you'll
see
as
we
discuss
a
little
bit
further
in
those
alternative
options
and
also
to
improve
intermodal
connections.
So
this
would
help
facilitate
traffic
flows
and
through
traffic
studies,
we
would
look
at
how
this
could
improve
intersection.
Transportation
transportation
through
the
intersections
of
you,
know,
pine
street
at
maple,
king
main
street,
and
how
this
might
help
facilitate
better
flow.
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U
U
This
is
one
of
many
projects
in
the
south
end.
As
everyone's
aware,
this
was
presented
previously,
both
the
two,
I
believe
here
the
commission
and
to
council
the
south
and
construction
coordination
plan.
What
this,
as
you
see,
there's
a
number
of
projects
and
infrastructure
improvements
that
are
being
planned
or
completed
or
in
progress
in
this
area,
and
this
was
the
city's
attempt
to
really
take
into
consideration
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhoods
with
being
inundated
with
too
many
construction
projects
at
one
time.
U
U
You
have
the
v-trans
amtrak,
which
has
been
completed
and,
as
everyone
knows,
is
now
up
and
running,
which
we're
all
pretty
excited
about.
Shelby
roundabout,
which
is
well
underway,
is
as
well,
and
it
is
in
a
very
good
position
to
be
ahead
of
schedule
coming
just
before
winter.
So
I
believe
my
understanding
is
looking
to
have
potentially
a
functional
operation
prior
to
the
winter
season.
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U
Looking
to
you
know,
if
things
stay
on
schedule
to
be
able
to
potentially
get
a
construction
start
in
2023,
and
then
we
have
this
project,
which
is
underway
in
the
nepa
process,
where
we're
working
to
get
those
documentation
put
together
for
our
goal,
pending
a
selection
of
a
preferred
alternative,
and
hopefully
council
approval
in
the
near
term.
For
that
alternative
selection
would
be
to
submit
the
documentation
october
and
officially
present
to
federal
highway.
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So
these
are
the
three
alternatives
that
were
identified
from
the
supplemental
pell,
as
would
be,
would
require
further
investigation
as
to
select
the
preferred
alternative.
Now
these
are
just
the
general
connection.
Identify
layouts
and
the
specific
design
details
are
what
is
then
determined
as
you
proceed
into
the
next
phase
of
this
design
process.
So,
first
is
making
the
selection
of
the
alternative.
Then,
from
there
you
really
start
nailing
down
those
individual
details
of
exact
right-of-way
limits,
locations
of
facilities
and
items
such
as
that.
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So
as
we
can
see
the
three
alternatives
here
and
this
obviously,
we
didn't
show
a
no
build
situation,
but
the
no
build
would
be
the
fourth
option
that
is
being
considered
in
this
process.
The
first
alternative,
the
alternative
1b,
is
the
more
simple
design.
It
is
a
connection
of
battery
street
to
pine
street
with
the
connection
at
south
champlain
that
looks
to
kind
of
extend
south
and
connect
in
between
the
curtis
lumber
and
the
former
street
department
parcel.
U
This
at
this
juncture
is
what
is
anticipated
to
be
the
preferred
alternative,
due
to
a
number
of
reasons
and
we'll
get
to
those
here
in
a
minute
alternative.
Two
is
a
little
bit
more
robust
in
its
design.
It
creates
more
of
a
grid
street
network.
It
has
multiple
connections
to
pine
street
this
one
again
as
it
goes
between
battery
connects
to
south
champlain
connects
to
pine
street.
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It
also
includes
significantly
more
impacts
to
those
parcels,
as
it
would
effectively
go
through
the
curtis
lumber,
building,
very
close
proximity
to
the
former
street
department
building
and
then
a
new
connection
there
closer
to
the
barge
canal
third
option:
alternative
5b
again
is
very
similar
to
two:
it
eliminates
the
curtis
lumber
connection
and
there's
two
connections
to
the
south
for
that
in
our
review
of
these
streets-
and
these
are
these
alternatives,
we
looked
at
a
number
of
things.
We
looked
at
right-of-way
impacts
for
all
these
alternatives.
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U
You
know
the
rail
yard's
been
operation
there
for
a
very
long
time.
We
know
the
soils
there
are
going
to
be
are
going
to
have
to
be
worked,
and
that
is
anticipated.
What
you
end
up
happening
is
with
the
alternative,
2
and
5b.
You
are
extending
the
roadway
network
closer
to
the
barge
canal,
which
obviously,
we
know,
is
a
superfund
site
and
is
going
to
incur
significantly
more
work
in
order
to
be
remediated
and
taken
care
of
to
be
able
to
construct
the
roadway
network.
U
In
addition
to
that,
with
any
roadway
connection,
the
more
road
you
roadway
work,
you
have
the
more
paving
the
more
construction
increased
costs.
So
not
only
do
you
have
the
significant
increase
cost
of
additional
soils
potentially
to
be
remediated,
you
also
have
the
additional
construction
costs
just
for
a
larger
infrastructure
installation.
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U
So,
looking
closer
at
the
1b
alternative
as
it
stands
currently,
we
have
been
in
close
communication
since
bringing
stantec
on
we
they've
done
research
at
the
existing
facilities.
They
have
looked
at
property
rights
to
truly
sure
up
the
right-of-way
boundaries.
We've
looked
at
the
historic
buildings
in
that
area
and
historic
structures
such
as
the
roundabout
or
the
roundhouse,
which
is
in
the
rail
yard,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
the
little
outline
on
the
top
portion
of
this
page.
That
is
west
of
the
roadway
alignment.
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With
all
these
considerations,
you
know
this
has
been
just
an
initial
mock-up
of
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
a
1b
alternative.
Again,
nothing
is
set
in
stone
here,
but
this
is
just
to
give
a
better
understanding
of
what
sort
of
improvements
and
what
is
going
to
be
installed
in
this
design.
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What
we
can
show
here
is
any
design
that
we
do
is
going
to
require
vrs
and
state
participation,
as
there
is
an
existing
track
that
runs
through
the
battery
street
right
away.
That
is
going
to
have
to
be
relocated,
so
there's
been
numerous
conversations
and
conversations
are
still
going
with
vrs
regarding
this,
and
we've
had
actually
really
good
conversations
with
them
and
that
so
far,
when
we've
talked
to
them
about
this
alignment,
they
have
been
supportive
of
this.
U
So
that
being
said,
you
know
that
is
a
big
portion
of,
and
this
section
and
these
discussions
are
consistent
for
each
of
the
three
alternatives,
as
all
three
of
them
still
have
to
make
this
battery
street
connection,
and
so
this
is
really
the
key
focal
point
of
you
know
all
three
designs:
they
they
all
carry
the
same
section.
So
in
that
we
have
come
across
in
our
conversations
is
that
we
are
looking.
L
U
So
this
is
benefit
all
right,
so
we
are
looking
that
with
the
historic
buildings
the
independent
block
building
we
have
here.
We
have
the
roundhouse
here
considered.
4F.
Are
there
four
of
considerations
when
it
comes
to
store
preservation,
because
this
project
is
federally
funded?
There
are
and
we're
working
through
the
new
process.
There
are
considerations
that
need
to
be
made
for
those
historic
preservation,
historic
facilities.
U
This,
as
we
have
designed
now,
would
minimize
the
impacts
of
the
4f.
So
we
are
looking
to
not
have
any
impacts
to
the
roundhouse
and
we
would
be
looking
at
a
partial
taking
of
the
independent
block
building
in
order
to
facilitate
the
roadway
cross-section
in
this
vicinity
of
these
of
this
roadway
alignment.
U
Again,
this
is
a
standard
burlington
street.
It's
going
to
be
a
25
mile,
an
hour
roadway
you're,
going
to
have
signalized
intersections
anticipated
at
south
champlain.
You
have
the
existing
battery
and
there
it's
going
to
be
the
intersection
connection
at
pine
street
there's
discussion
and
we
have
on
the
next
slide.
Some
alternatives
is,
being
it's
not
finalized
as
to
how
that
connection
will
be
made,
and
that
is
something
that
will
be
further
investigated
and
looked
into
in
the
next
phase.
Once
an
alt
preferred
alternative
has
been
selected
for
this
infrastructure.
U
U
U
U
I
have
a
cross
section
that
we'll
get
to
in
a
minute
that
kind
of
shows
a
a
mock-up
of
what
that
would
look
like,
but
that
was
one
of
the
considerations
we
have
done
in
this
alignment
as
well,
a
minimal
of
the
impacts
as
possible
to
the
property
owners
on
the
north
or
eastern
side
of
this.
In
this
alignment,
we're
looking
at.
U
U
It
has
been
found
that
you
know
traffic
studies
have
been
done
on
these
as
well
and
kind
of
reviewed
to
see
the
effectiveness
and
the
amount
of
traffic
that
is
anticipated
to
be
diverted
to
the
new
roadway
through
each
of
these
options,
and
some
of
them
have
a
little
bit
I'll.
Actually
I'll
leave
I'll
talk
a
bit
more
about
that.
That
works,
sure
yeah.
R
Yeah
so,
regardless
of
the
intersection
option
chosen
at
pine
street,
much
of
the
traffic
will
be
diverted
to
the
new
rep
roadway
that
currently
uses
pine
street
north
of
the
intersection
here.
So
there's
there'll
be
a
significant
portion
that
traffic
diverted
to
the
new
roadway
each
intersection
option
comes
with
its
pros
and
cons.
R
R
It
certainly
can
accommodate
bicycles
and
pedestrians
through
shared
use
path.
Infrastructure
around
the
intersection
bicyclists
can
choose
to
the
the
the
more
bold
bicyclists
can
choose
to
just
drive.
You
know
bike
right
through
the
intersection
as
well,
so
there
are
options
there
in
terms
of
the
signalized
t
intersection
you
can
see.
You
know
the
new
roadway
would
t
into
pine
street
pine
street
would
continue
in
that
north-south
direction
there
at
the
intersection.
R
It's
it's
kind
of
more
of
a
continuation
of
pine
street.
It
will
probably
divert
it
will
divert
less
traffic
towards
the
new
roadway
than
the
signalized
y
or
the
roundabout
intersection,
but
it'll
still
divert
a
significant
amount
of
traffic.
It's
a
much
smaller
footprint
at
the
intersection
there
and
you
know
there
there's
still
access
on
the
east
side
of
the
road
that
we
have
to
consider
as
well
for
students,
insider
and
the
post
office
and
things
of
that
nature.
R
U
Thanks
so
as
I
mentioned,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
just,
a
typical
section
that
we're
looking
at
for
the
new
roadway
section
between
pine
street
and
south
champlain.
As
you
see
the
five
foot
sidewalk,
we
have
a
five
and
a
half
foot
green
belt.
We
have
a
26
foot
roadway,
shoulder
shoulder
with
another
five
and
a
half
foot
green
belt
and
a
10
foot
shared
used
path.
U
U
So,
where
we
stand
today
is
we're
coming
to
you
to
talk
to
you,
give
you
an
update
as
to
where
the
project
stands.
What
is
looking
to
be
likely
the
preferred
alternative
based
upon
the
information
that's
been
gathered
so
far,
and
we're
looking
to
kind
of
get
your
input
feedback
on
this
as
we
look
to
move
to
hopefully
discuss
this
with
council
in
the
near
future,
and
you
know.
I
U
G
U
F
D
D
I
made
notes
of
questions
and
then
you
answered
them
in
your
presentation,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
am
I'm
definitely
in
support
of
the
roundabout
connection
between
pine
and
the
new
segment
of
battery
street
and
I'm
I'm
obviously
everybody
on
the
other
company.
The
other
commissioners
are
aware
of
that,
but
I
think
your
comment
about
the
fact
that
it
would
facilitate
more
traffic
being
directed
and
diverted
onto
the
new
segment
is
a
piece
of
information
that
I
that
I
hadn't
really
thought
about.
D
Comparing
the
signalized
t
intersection
and
the
the
y
intersection
I'm
a
complete
supporter
of
the
safety
of
roundabouts
because
of
the
fact
of
the
slowing
down
and
the
eye
contact
among
all
the
people
trying
to
get
through
that,
and
since
you
there
will
be
the
requirement
of
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
crossing
the
from
the
from
the
shared
youth
path
on
the
one
side
and
getting
to
the
other
side
to
be
going
down
the
west
side
of
pine
street.
I
really
think
that's
the
solution
that
that
should
take
place
at
that
intersection.
D
So
I
think
it's
I'm
very
happy
to
see
it
moving
forward.
You
would
answer
the
question
about
the
archaeological
sites,
because
that
was
one
of
the
questions
on
the
older
maps.
Those
were
sort
of
in
a
very
challenging
location,
so
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
other
than
to
highly
in
support
the.
I
think
it's
a
great
plan.
D
I
think
that's
the
way
to
go
that
one
b
is
the
plan
and
I
would
highly
support
the
roundabout
at
that
intersection
and
I,
I
just
think
that's
going
to
be
the
safest
alternative
for
everybody
and
also
the
fact
of
that
extra
encouragement
of
people
that
I
think
people
are
going
to
be
coming
in
on
that
parkway
and
they're
going
to
want
to
get
to
downtown
and
we
don't
want
them
going
into
the
pines,
the
the
old
maple
king
mc
neighborhood,
if
we
can
avoid
that
so
good
job.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
I
too
support
the
diversion
with
the
roundabout
exactly
for
the
same
reasons
of
slowing
down
the
traffic
and
that
it
can
accommodate
cyclists,
so
I
think
moving
forward
with
1b
with
the
roundabout
version.
I
don't
know
that
one
1b
point
something
would
be
great
a
question
I
do
have,
and
this
I
remember
from
a
while
ago,
what
about
access
for
the
businesses
on
the
corner
of
maple
and
battery?
N
I
remember
the
dive
shop
was
talking
about
access
for
loading
and
I
I
know
you
did
outreach,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
that
the
those
businesses
have
been
contacted
and
that
there
are
solutions
for
them
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
have
their
have
visitors
to
their
shops
and
also
unnecessary
deliveries
with
big
trucks.
Whatever.
U
Yes,
we've
been
in
very,
I
feel:
we've
been
in
some
very
good
conversations
with
them
as
of
late.
Definitely
they
do
have
concerns.
We
have
in
the
image
that
was
shown
identified,
an
ability
to
remain
access
to
their
loading
dock
for
that
dive
shop,
as
well
as
we're
in
discussions
as
to
how
the
parking
would
be
managed
on
the
roadway
to
continue
to
allow
easier
access
for
that
business
there
on
that
corner.
U
U
N
U
T
Yes,
I
was
just
going
to
add
to
what
corey
was
saying
about
our
conversations
with
the
businesses
that
the
few
things
with
the
diving
shop
that
was
important
to
them.
One
is
that
they
have
space
for
the
customers
who
carry
a
lot
of
heavy
gear,
and
I
think
they
need
about
four
spaces,
and
we've
also
talked
to
jacob
alby
about
his
tenants
and
they
use
need
of
for
eight
spaces
or
something
that
effect.
T
In
addition,
what
the
future
is
with
perkins
pure
parking
lot
and
the
challenge
that
we
express
to
them
that
there
is
that
potential
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
expanding
its
footprint
taking
some
of
that
space,
but
that
we're
going
to
have
conversations
with
parks
about
that.
So
we're
we're
hearing
all
the
things
that
they're
concerned
about.
One
of
the
things
they're
concerned
about
is
is
what
their
level
of
compensation
would
be
as
it
relates
to
a
diminished
value
of
property
and
how
they
deal
with
tenants.
P
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
it
was
super
interesting.
I
also
had
questions
that
I
wrote
down
that
you
answered.
One
of
them
was
about
the
barge
canal
being
a
super
fun
site
and
wanting
to
disturb-
or
you
know,
disturb
that
as
little
as
possible
and
for
that
reason,
among
many
others,
1b
definitely
seems
like
the
best
alternative
for
the
project.
B
B
O
In
the
two
alternatives,
outside
of
the
sort
of
preferred
one
that
sort
of
create
the
the
grid
street
network
does
the.
I
know
it's
also
the
super
fund
point,
so
it
has
superfund
sites.
We
don't
necessarily
want
to
disturb
that,
but
does
the
current
or
any
sort
of
proposed
zoning
that
the
city
has
provide
for
that
area
to
be,
or
is
a
multi-use
or
mixed-use
district?
I
don't
know
what
that
current.
That
area
is
currently
zoned
for,
but.
A
U
U
You
know.
Greenbelt
can
shrink
a
little
bit
of
extra
acquisition
may
occur
in
order
to
get
that
extra
room
in
order
to
maintain
that
10
foot.
So
we're
looking
at
that,
and
that
definitely
is
one
of
the
things
we've
been
hearing,
and
we
will
definitely
be
looking
into
that.
As
far
as
what
options
we
really
can
do
to
provide
referral.
You
know
design.
I
K
U
R
And
I'll
just
clarify
as
well.
You
know
with
the
road
facility
there
will
be
some
offset
from
the
horn
track,
so
there's
going
to
be
a
10
foot
offset
from
the
horn
track
and
that
loading
operation,
if
we
were
going
to
which
is
the
minimum
the
vrs
would
require
in
order
to
have
their
operations
they
need.
They
need
truck
access
between
the
track
and
the
new
roadway
facility.
G
E
R
L
R
R
F
A
F
E
F
U
Per
day
no,
I
mean
it
depends
on
in
the
conversation
it
happens
at
different
times.
It's
not
a
set
schedule
situation.
There
are
the
current
tenants
in
that
area
have
identified
that
they
have
seen
some
parked
cars
in
the
vicinity
be
damaged
by
it
with
some
stray
rocks,
but
we
don't
have
that
data,
but
that
data
is
something
we've
been
looking
to
get
more
of,
as
we
can
see.
F
F
I
got
the
sense
from
commissioner
overby
that
her
read
was
different
than
that
that
the
roundabout
would
successfully
divert
more
traffic.
Could
you
clarify?
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
the
level
of
I
understand
that,
like
right,
this
is
going
to
be
the
more
desired
path
to
battery
street
from
pine
regardless,
but
you
have
a
sense
of
like
which
intersection
may
have
a
greater
tendency
to
steer
people
that
way.
Yeah.
F
That
makes
sense
given
like
yeah
the
geometry.
The
signal
is
wise,
pointing
straight
there,
okay,
but
I
guess
one
last
thing:
you
know
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
the
cost
and
the
significantly
increased
cost
and
complexity
of
building
out
more
of
the
grid
network
closer
to
the
barge
canal,
and
I
think
commissioner
damiana
touched
on
as
well
sort
of
like
the
rezoning
and
economic
development
potential
there,
but
does
that
like
come
up
in
the
the
economic
evaluations?
I
mean?
A
A
F
A
B
B
F
J
U
Yeah,
so
looking
at
the
trafficking
that
goes
through
there
truck
traffic,
obviously
with
the
rail
operation,
and
it's
just
well
traffic
just
traveling
through
burlington
that
would
be
taking
this
route
in
order
to
maintain
the
curvature
and
the
trucks
making
those
movements
safely.
26
foot
with
12
foot
lane
one
foot.
U
R
A
That
said,
one
of
the
design,
the
whole
piece
of
getting
a
preferred
alternative
gets
us
to
a
place
where
we
can
really
do
the
next
level
of
design,
and
if
there
is
interest
which
we've
been
hearing
to
continue,
the
10-foot
cross-section
look
at
improving
intersections.
You
know
looking
at
where
we
could
narrow,
potentially
the
cross-sections.
J
F
B
U
U
F
F
F
A
A
So
we'll
be
looking
to
schedule
that
in
the
next
month
or
two,
and
you
saw
the
upcoming
public
meeting
for
the
rail
yard,
enterprise
project
construction
season's
going
well
thanks
to
the
technical
team,
the
roundabout
is
ahead
of
schedule.
We
do
expect
the
roundabout
to
be
functional
before
winter
time.
There
may
be
some
punchless
stuff
for
2023.
A
I
want
to
thank
our
team
for
all
the
good
coordination
efforts
waters
up
on
the
hill
section
university
place
is
underway.
It's
been
a
really
good
construction
season
and
do
let
people
know
that
the
construction
portal
is
available
for
information
for
folks,
public
information
manager.
Rob
goulding
is
also
willing
to
field
calls
too,
but
you
know,
I
think,
from
what
I
have
seen.
D
A
a
call
from
a
former
commissioner
who
asked
about
the
timing
of
painting
stop
lines
on
the
mansfield
avenue
at
the
stop
signs.
I
haven't
been
down
mansfield
avenue
in
the
last
month,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
situation
is
with
the
new.
Also
the
painting
of
crosswalks
with
the
new
shared
use
path.
That's
on
mansfield
avenue
so
is
there?
Is
there?
Is
there
a
plan
or
for
putting
the
stop
handed
stop
lines
and
the
stops?
That's
a
stop
signal
there
and
or
the
crosswalk
up
near.
A
N
N
A
T
N
So
there's
no,
you
know
like
it's
a
busy
road
and
there's.
No,
I
don't
know
what
you
call
it
like
the
dotted
line
that
separates
the
lines
of
traffic,
and
that
is
one
of
the
ways
I
cycle
to
work
and
on
several
occasions
I
know
please
don't
tell
me
like
go
to
do,
do
go.
Do
c,
quick
fix,
I'm
just
going
to
use
my
little
platform
right
now
and
I'll
just
do
like
fix
later.
But
so
what
happens
is
I'm
on
my
bike
and
a
car?
N
Is
you
know
not
going?
You
know
not
zooming
past
me,
but
going
the
speed
limit
and
then
another
car
will
go
well
go
around
that
car.
So
what
happens?
Is
you
get
you
get
vehicles
passing
vehicles?
I
mean
it's
happened
like
on
both
sides
where
I
have
been
almost
hit
by
a
car
passing
another
either
passing
a
parked
car
or
passing
like
parked
car
car
going.
You
know
the
speed
limit
and
then
this
car
just
wanting
to
pass
so
it's
kind
of
like
the
wild
west
out
there.
It's
really
really
unsafe.
N
It's
happened
on
several
occasions
and
then
I
get
home
and
I'm
just
like
all
buckered
up
and
like
complaining
to
my
husband
and
I'm
not
going
to
see
quick
fix.
So
I
know
I
need
to
do
that.
So
I've
also
had
it
where
the
bus
has
stopped
at
prospect
and
cliff,
and
I
walking
across
the
street
in
front
of
the
bus.
A
car
passes
the
bus
at
the
stoplight
and
almost
hit
me
while
I'm
walking
the
dog.
N
I
feel
like
I'm
starting
to
sound
like
like
a
crazy
old
lady,
but
it's
really
like
it's.
You
know
this
is
just
like
everyday
living,
and
I
know
the
uptick
in
these
incidents
are
going
to.
You
know
continue
to
increase
as
students
come
back,
but
I
gotta
say
it's
not
just
students
who
are
doing
this.
This
has
happened
over
the
summer
as
well,
so
traffic
calming
is
you
know,
that's
the
one
that
you
know
if
those
tubes
are
measuring
anything
like
that.
N
T
Unfortunate
commentary,
that
is,
is
that
we
have
people
coming
out
of
coba
and
their
behaviors
have
not
been
great
couple.
The
fact
that
we
have
a
police
department
has
been
very
diminished
and
their
priority
is
not.
Traffic
enforcement
and
the
standard
practice
for
traffic
management
is
engineering,
education
and
enforcement
right
now
we
really
kind
of
have
engineering
and
so
we're
we're
really
maxed
trying
to
manage
those
circumstances
and
they're
not
great,
and
I
would
wouldn't
disagree
with
you.
T
We've
had
some
kind
of
crazy
stuff
with,
like
the
state
and
halle
stripe
center
line,
which
was
a
problem
on
prospect
street
this
past
week,
but
we're
trying
to
remedy
that.
So
there's
there's
things
that
we
we
are
trying
to
do
more
than
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
for
the
simple
fact
that
the
world
has
changed.
N
All
right
all
right,
I
think
I
think
that
was
it
great
great
job
team
on
on
all
the
construction
university
place.
I,
when
I
once
I
survived,
prospect
street
and
get
up
to
uvm,
navigating
navigating
university
place.
It's
been
amazing
to
see
really
the
kind
of
efficiency
with
which
the
crews
are
kind
of
moving
along
that
section
of
roadway,
so
great
job
on
that,
that's
all.
O
My
only
comment
was,
I
noticed
in
in
reviewing
the
consent
agenda
today.
A
lot
of
the
memos
were
written
by
interns,
and
I
was
just
curious
if
that
is
sort
of
sort
of
a
formal
internship
program
that
the
department
has
and
if
so,
I'd
love
to
continue
expanding,
that
sort
of
to
help
build
the
capacity
that
was
sort
of
or
the
capacity
that
has
been
lacking.
That
was
sort
of
discussed
earlier
yeah
and
that
you
know
if
it
is
sort
of
more
short-term
internships.
O
T
Yep
so
this
year,
because
we've
been
short,
staffed
people
with
vacancies
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
we
expanded
our
interns
for
the
year
and
some
interns
work
throughout
the
summer
then
leave
to
go
back
to
school
and
they're
done
for
the
year.
Others
work
on
a
more
diminished
schedule
like
a
10
hour
schedule
during
your
school
year
that
are
who
go
to
school
nearby,
and
so
we
have
one,
I
believe,
is
continuing,
but
most
are
returning
back
to
school
and
the
internships
we
have
are
mostly
been
engineers
in
the
field
of
interest.
T
But
we've
also
had
some
planners
and
architects
who
have
played
a
role
in
our
work
this
summer,
and
so
it's
been
a
good
experience
of
having
them
on
board
and
doing
some
good
work
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
good
cad
work
to
support
projects
and
a
lot
of
that
field.
Work
hands-on
stuff
of
collecting
speed
data
which
is
important
to
our
traffic
calming
and
so
we're
trying
to
grow
our
traffic
calming
in-house
capabilities,
because
relying
on
ccrbc
sometimes
can
be
very
constraining
when
we
have
something,
that's
urgent
and
needs
a
quick
answer.
T
E
B
B
Thanks,
I
I
have
a
couple
things
too
so
more
central
to
where
I
live.
I
want
huge
kudos
to
to
dpw
for
putting
in
the
plastic
bollards
and
it
really
has
slowed
down,
slowed
down,
traffic
coming
down
chase
street
and
it's
short
in
the
crosswalk,
so
that
it's
a
lot
safer
to
get
across
with
a
rapid
flashing
beacon
up
there.
I
didn't
see
that
on
the
walk
bike
plan,
but.
B
It
it
you
should
report
it,
because
it's
it's
a
great
improvement
there.
I
will
say
that
the
bollards
are
far
enough
apart
and
I
like
the
idea
of
maybe
putting
something
concrete
like
the
curbings
or
something
in
between
I've,
actually
seen
cars
going
between
them
and
use
small
cars
using
the
crosswalk
to
come
down
because
they're
just
not
used
to
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
other
things
put
in
there.
L
F
B
That's
that's
great,
and
I
had
also
done.
I
did
a
c-click
fix
for
a
center
line
coming
out
of
chase
street
and
they've
already
put
put
the
dots
there.
So
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
painted
pretty
soon.
The
other
couple
of
items,
real,
quick
and
I've
heard
this
from
several
people.
I'm
surprised,
jason,
stuffle
isn't
still
on
the
on
the
call
every
time
trash
or
recycles
picked
up.
K
B
B
It's.
I
know
that
there's
some
places
where
there
isn't
a
green
belt
or
the
sign
will
not
be
visible
to
cars
coming,
so
it
has
to
be
done
that
way.
I
I
just
if
there
can
be
a
concerted
effort.
It
would
make
our
dotted
line
infrastructure
at
least
a
little
more
tenable
so
other
than
that.
I
again
great
great
work.
I'm
glad
you
had
a
good
vacation,
welcome
back
and
welcome
to
chris
and
eliana
thanks.
F
T
F
Great
thank
you
comment.
You
know
we
had
one
of
our
numerous
things
that
consent
agenda
pulled
off,
to
talk
about
some
details
and
relating
property
issues
to
the
emphasize
that,
like
in
some
of
those
memos,
I
found
myself
wishing
there
was
like
a
little
more
context
in
there.
If
there's
places
like
oak
street,
where
our
staff
mentioned
they're
like
oh
yeah,
maybe
that
should
have
gone
in
at
the
same
time
as
we
made
the
change
for
like
property
next
next
door,
but
that
sort
of
context
of
like
we've
had
regulation.
F
F
Others
in
mind
that
would
sort
of
came
to
it
even
on
like
union
station.
I
was
a
bit
curious
of
like
the
nature
of
the
restriction
for
the
other
adjacent
spots.
There
I
mean
I
was
supportive
of
the
of
the
motion
but
curious
for
some
broader
context
stuff,
like
that
it
would
be
useful
to
see
on
the
map
of
like
not
just
like,
where
this
parking
spots
are,
that
are
proposed
to
be
adjusted
but
like
what
the
surrounding
ones
are
related.
I
do
wish
it
was
easier
to
pull
up
that
sort
of
information.
F
I
know
like
our
city
ordinance,
our
ordinances
are
organized
by
type
of
restriction
like
the
15
minute.
Restrictions
are
listed
separately
from
the
one
hour,
restrictions
and
so
forth,
and
I
know
the
park
burlington
website
has
a
map
with
the
type
of
it's
like
the
type
of
meters
for
the
metered
spots,
but
it
would
be,
I
think,
a
nice
aspirational
goal
to
have
like
that
type
of
view
into
like
what
the
parking
situation
is.
F
T
I
think
those
types
of
details
may
be
available
to
you
in
the
years
in
coming
and
that
we
have
an
asset
management
system
that
we're
starting
to
inventory
those
types
of
details
that
would
be
useful
to
members
of
the
public,
but
also
to
us
in
terms
of
how
we
manage
our
work.
So
I
think
we're
we're
getting
there,
but
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
F
About
yeah
that'd
be
one
one
more
use
case
to
keep
in
mind
there
yeah
great,
thank
you
and
damiani
got
my
question
on
the
interns.
That's
great
to
see
I'll,
certainly
emphasize
the
importance
of
well
senator
baldwin
mentioned
a
number
of
challenges
in
our
environment
with
regards
to
the
enforcement
education
engineering
dynamic
that
it's
important
for
us
to
continue
to
emphasize,
and
I
appreciate
that
we
have
gotten
elevated
resources
for
traffic
calming
in
recent
years.
F
F
Calm
things
down
and
select
locations
would
be
really
really
crucial
and
last
year,
as
I
think
you
know,
thank
you.
I
understand
we
had
a
scheduling
switch
with
this
next
round
of
water
and
wastewater
plant
tours,
but
I
appreciate
that
there's
a
couple
opportunities
this
summer
I
was
bummed
that
I
had
conflicts
and
didn't
make
it,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
that
happening.
I
think
it's
it's
nice
to
let
people
get
some
eyes
on
what
happens
behind
the
scenes.