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From YouTube: Burlington Development Review Board - 3/8/2023
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:28 Agenda
00:00:55 294-296 North Winooski Avenue (NMU, Ward 2C) Irene Hinsdale / Samuel Nelis
00:01:07 371 Main Street (I, Ward 6S) Champlain College, Inc. / Nic Anderson
00:03:10 176 South Winooski Avenue (FD5, Ward 6S) VFW Howard Plant Post 782 / Taryn Barrett
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A
So
my
name
is
AJ
LaRosa
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Burlington
development
review
board
and
I
will
be
calling
our
Tuesday
it's
Wednesday,
March
8th
2023
meeting
to
order.
We
have
an
agenda
posted
online
and
it's
very
short
agenda
tonight,
so
it's
very
likely
we'll
conduct
the
public
hearing
and
then
move
on
to
deliberations
afterwards.
A
So
we
have
gender
no
changes
to
that.
Well,
there
are
some
changes
to
that.
There
is
a
change.
Yeah,
294,
296,
North,
Winooski
Avenue
has
asked
that
we
defer
this
until
the
April
4th
2023
meeting.
A
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
there's
only
two
people
I'm
assuming
you're-
not
here
to
chat
about
that?
No
all
right
so
I
see
no
reason
not
to
defer
it
and
I
would
move
that
we
defer
294
296
to
April
4th
second,
any
opposed
all
in
favor
aye
all
right,
so
that
has
been
moved,
and
so
that
means
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
371
Main,
Street,
Champlain,
College,
expand
existing
residence
hall
from
30
beds
to
36
beds
is
the
applicant
here.
A
We
don't
really
have
a
consent
agenda
on
this
application,
but
the
indication
is
this
particularly
small
project
and
seemingly
a
good
project
that
works.
Is
there
any
member
of
the
board?
That
would
be
object
to
treating
this
as
a
consent
agenda
item?
A
C
A
Okay,
is
there
somebody
who'd
like
to
make
a
report,
make
a
recommendation
on
this
one.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
next
and
last
agenda
item
tonight
is
176
South
Winooski
Avenue
zp
23-15
request
at
176,
South
Winooski
Avenue
to
demolishes
the
existing
building
and
construct
new
mixed-use
commercial
Residential
Building,
and
we
have
the
applicant
and
their
architect.
A
So
would
you
raise
your
right
hands?
Do
you
swear
that
the
testimony
you're
about
to
give
in
this
matter
is
true
and
correct?
Are
the
pains
and
penalties
of
perjury?
Yes
all
right?
Well,
why
don't
you
walk
us
through
the
project
and
we
obviously
have
the
information
from
the
staff
report.
A
E
So
the
VFW
has
identified
that
this
site
and
the
building
that
they're
in
is
no
longer
fitting
their
needs
and
had
approached
CHT
in
evernorth
as
developers
to
assist
them
in
figuring
out
the
best
use
of
the
property.
Our
program
and
goal
for
this
site
is
really
to
develop
affordable
housing,
some
dedicated
to
Veterans
and
community
space.
E
E
E
And
then
the
upper
stories
are
a
mix
of
materials
to
break
up
the
massing,
but
still
to
provide
a
balance
of
vertical
orientation
as
well
as
some
connecting
horizontal.
You
know
trim
and
lines
between
the
different
volumes.
We
didn't
want
it
to
read
as
three
distinct
buildings,
but
these
slots
that
you
see
are
really
generated
is
part
of
our
requirement
to
form-based
code
and
they
help
to
break
up
the
the
long
linear
massing
of
the
building.
E
We
were
allowed
to
go
for
stories,
but
we
chose
to
go
five.
We
considered
six
stories,
but
that
really
wasn't
possible
in
a
fossil
free
building,
which
would
be
heated
and
cooled
with
air.
A
lot
of
moving
air
and
the
first
floor
requirement
of
14
feet.
We
just
felt
that
it
was
too
tight
to
get
up
to
the
six
stories,
so
we
found
ourselves
somewhere
in
a
happy
middle
of
five
which
provided
us
with
the
number
of
apartments
that
we
hoped
we
could
get
on
this
project.
G
You're
really
being
asked
if
you
will
accept
the
additional
height
over
the
administrative
allowable
height,
so
they're
asking
for
the
fifth
Story,
and
the
second
thing
is
a
use
of
a
composite
material
which
isn't
listed
in
our
traditional
list
of
materials.
They
do
want
to
use
a
specific
product
which
has
been
recommended
for
approval
by
the
design,
Advisory
Board.
We
have
accepted
it
and
approved
it
in
other
applications,
but
unfortunately,
this
particular
product
is
not
listed
in
the
form
code
as
being
one
of
those
defined
products.
E
Have
a
sample
of
the
trim
here,
yeah,
it's
very
similar
to
Hardy.
The
form-based
code
allows
fiber
cement
as
one
of
the
primary
materials
we.
We
couldn't
really
call
this
fiber
cement,
but
if
you've
looked
at
what
fiber
cement
yeah
if
you've
looked
at
what
fiber
cement
is
made
of,
you
can
see
a
bit
of
like
the
concrete
fly,
ash
and
wood
chips
in
it
same
similar
to
Burrell.
B
E
G
So
I
know
it's
traditional
that
you
would
step
through
all
of
these
standards,
but
they've
already
sailed
through
their
checklist.
Dab
has
recommended
it
for
approval,
so
your
review
is
almost
entirely
limited
to
the
additional
height
which
isn't
one
more
floor
and
which
is
discretionary
by
the
drb
and
the
use
of
this
material
for
a
limited
amount
of
the
trim.
E
D
H
Any
other
questions,
yeah
Mary,
one
of
the
permanent
conditions-
is
that
Transportation
demand
management
plan
and.
D
G
A
Question
I'm,
assuming
that's
the
case.
I
actually
have
a
question
about
the
impact
fees.
Did
you
have
any
issue
with
the
impact
fees
assessed
because
it's
part
of
our
condition.
E
Oh
I
believe
our
clients
are
well
aware
of
the.
D
E
Fees
in
the
on
in
Burlington
and
on
this
project.
Yes,
we
had
gone
to
technical
review
and
we've
talked
about
them
a
little
bit
and
we
understand
and
hope
to
continue
a
really
close
relationship
with
the
city
as
we
develop
things
along
South,
Winooski
and
in
the
public
right
away.
That's
just.
A
G
As
a
matter
of
practice,
I
calculate
the
impact
fees
based
on
the
area.
That's
proposed,
however,
with
eyes
wide
open.
They
are
proposing
likely
all
of
their
units
will
be
affordable,
which
waivers
are
available
and
maybe
exercise
towards
impact
fees.
So
the
caveat
is
in
there
that
impact
fees
waivers
are
likely
after
review
by
the
housing
trust
fund
manager,
for
the
affordability
of
the
units.
B
F
No
we're
working
with
City
engineers
and
also
trying
to
evaluate
all
the
utility
connections
right
now
and
feel
like
that,
will
be
a
process
moving
forward.
But
I.
F
B
E
A
lot
of
to
figure
out
about
this
old
Ravine.
F
We
we
located
it
as
best.
We
could,
by
doing
some
some
search
on
our
project
existing
project
site
which
has
its
own
Wastewater
and
storm
water
collection
system
and
then
trying
to
map
backwards.
While
the
thing
runs
pretty
consistently
full
of
water.
So
it
has
been
difficult
to
find
I
think
we
have
it
in
a
pretty
correct
location
right
now
and
are
working
with
sort
of
structural
to
figure
out
how
that
affects
the
building.
You.
E
And
one
is
the
Ravine,
a
very,
very
old,
large
brick
core
running,
underneath
the
corner
of
the
building
is
concerning
and
yes.
C
E
Infill
soils
so
we're
looking
at
Ground
improvements
and
we're
looking
at
a
strategy
to
mitigate
some
of
the
structural
risk
of
the
building
through
a
structural
approach
that
would
support
that
corner
should
part
of
the
Ravine
collapse
that
were
to
happen.
There'd
be
significant
problems
in
the
rest
of
the
city
and
along
the
street.
E
E
We
have
some
old
water
lines
in
the
street
that
you
know
aren't
giving
us
the
most
Ideal
Supply
of
water.
Either
we
have
contaminated
soils
which
are
going
to
be
a
significant
investment
to
move
off
site.
So
it's
taking
a
lot
of
commitment
from
our
clients
to
to
figure
out
how
this
project
can
sustain
itself
and
move
forward.
A
Well,
it's
good
to
see
more
housing
so
particularly
downtown
with
that
I
guess,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
probably
deliberate
on
this
okay,
like
two
minutes
in.