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From YouTube: Burlington Development Review Board - 11/15/2022
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00:00:42 Communications
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00:04:17 Public Hearing: 447 Main St
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A
This
is
the
Tuesday
November
15th
development,
Review
Board
of
the
City
of
Burlington
meeting
I'm,
going
to
call
it
to
order.
We
have
a
quorum
and
we
proceed
through
items
as
they
are
listed
on
our
agenda
I.
Don't
the
only
agenda
item
change
that
I'm
aware
of
is
that
item
two
of
our
public
hearing,
zap
22
Dash
460
22-4
89,
Chestnut
Terrace?
That
is
an
appeal.
The
app
appellants
have
withdrawn
their
appeal,
and
so
that
is
removed
from
our
agenda
at
this
point.
A
C
A
Yeah,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
material
for
52
incident,
Institute
road
that
has
been
posted
so
presuming
we
had
all
read
those.
The
next
item
is
minutes.
This
is
for
the
board.
A
If
anybody
has
any
things
they
like
to
add
to
the
minutes,
I've
signed
our
last
set
and
I
suppose
we
can
talk
about
that
in
our
deliberative
and
so
with
that.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
listed
on
our
consent
agenda.
A
I
was
going
to
ask
you
whether
you
were
going
to
or
not
Jeff
did
Mr
matalinski.
Can
you
raise
your
right
hand?
Yes,
I.
A
Yeah,
we
don't
put
them
on
video
yet
so
please
raise
your
right
hand
and
state
that
any
testimony
given
this
matter
will
be
true
and
correct.
Under
the
pains
and
penalties
of
perjury.
C
How
many
testimony
I
give
on
this
matter?
You.
A
Can
just
say:
I
do
I
do
that
works,
so
this
has
been
put
on
our
consent
agenda,
which
means
the
staff
has
reviewed
it
and
recommend
that
we
approve
it
without
a
hearing.
Have
you
seen
the
staff
comments
and
recommendation
on
this
item?
Yes,
I
have,
do
you
have
any
issues
or
concerns
about
them?
No.
C
A
Okay,
the
next
agenda.
Our
item
on
our
the
next
item
is
a
public
hearing.
A
B
A
A
C
C
A
I'm
here,
okay,
so
we
have
the
staff
comments
and
we
have
the
recommendations.
But
why
don't
you
tell
us
what
you're
looking
to
do
and
if
you
want
Scott
to
call
up
any
plans
we
generally
don't
enable
screen
sharing.
But
if
there's
anything
you
need
to
call
up
I
think
he
can
arrange
that
or
Mary
can
I'm
not
sure
who's
driving
this
bus
right
now.
F
So
the
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
replace
this
existing
structure
in
kind
with
a
new
structure.
The
existing
structure
has
no
foundation
and
is
really
just
staying
up
by
habit,
we've
been
through
design
advisory
and
they
asked
us
to
provide
better
documentation
of
the
existing
details,
which
we
have
done
and
then
continued
to
indicate
how
we
are
essentially
simulating
those
details
in
our
proposal.
F
A
You
know
I
I
personally,
like
that
we're
not
dealing
with
when
I
first
saw
this
come
up.
This
board
has
dealt
extensively
with
demolition
by
neglect
on
historic,
Harris,
Barnes,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
that
we're
not
dealing
with
that
here
and
that
you
seem
to
be
making
a
pretty
good
effort
to
replicate
the
historic
elements
that
made
this
Carriage
Barn
historic,
that's
our
intent,
yeah
and
I
I.
You
know
I
know
this
board
has
struggled
with
how
to
deal
with
those
demolition
by
neglect
agenda
items.
Does
anybody
on
the
board
I
mean?
F
F
We
will
be
like
the
new
siding
around
the
back
side
of
it
will
be
non-combustible
siding.
So
when
we
consider
how
close
it
is
to
the
property
line,
we're
eliminating
the
the
fire
hazard
there,
we're
installing
egress
windows
we're
providing
a
code
compliance
stair.
So
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
we're
addressing
in
the
new
design,
but
really
trying
to
keep
the
Integrity
of
the
fabric
of
the
community.
A
Scott
I'll
note
FYI
that
you're
getting
a
404
error
on
your
staff
report
for
this
agenda
item
right
now,.
B
D
F
It's
a
continuation
of
existing
conditions.
It
is
currently
an
accessory
structure.
Accessory
dwelling
well.
F
Clear
I
get
I
get
a
little
confused
by
the
nomenclature
of
these
things.
A
Well,
what
let
me,
let
me
ask
my
question:
thusly,
what
use
is
it
today?
It.
F
A
And
I'll
ask
this
of
staff.
Is
there
a
permit
for
that.
E
We
repeatedly
ask
the
applicant
if
the
intention
was
to
have
a
discrete
unit,
and
the
answer
was
no.
There
is
finished
living
space
on
the
second
floor
and
it's
been
acknowledged
by
the
assessor's
office
to
have
been
there
for
some
decades.
It's
not
clear
that
when
the
permit
was
issued
for
an
antique
shop
if
it
included
living
space,
but
it
appears
to
have
been
finished
space
since
the
antique
shop
was
there.
G
D
F
A
I
think
that's
something
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
how
to
define
in
our
approval,
because
at
least
I'm
concerned
right
of
creep
in
the
future.
So
okay,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
a
nice
project.
Does
anybody
else
on
the
board?
Have
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
A
Okay
well
and
there's
nothing
else,
then
I
suggest
we
close
the
public
hearing
and
I.
We
will
deliberate
on
this.
Maybe
tonight
depends
on
how
long
the
other
agenda
items
go.
I,
suppose
and.
A
52
Institute
Road
City
school
department
demolish
and
remediate
existing
high
school
and
construct
new
250
000
square
foot
high
school,
slash,
Technical,
Center.
A
And
I
also
want
to
State
before
we
I,
don't
know
who's
here
to
speak
on
this
from
the
public,
but
I
know
this
was
a
recent
ballot
agenda
item
in
the
City
of
Burlington,
whatever
it
may
or
may
not,
cost
is
not
something
that
we
have
any
jurisdiction
or
authority
over.
So
to
the
extent
anybody
would
like
to
talk
about
what
the
proposed
costs
were.
That's
not
something
we
can
really
take
testimony
on
without
being
able
to
see
the
scope
of
the
audience.
A
Also,
our
review
is
limited
by
Statute,
that
is
in
the
staff
notes
and
were
only
able
to
review
certain
elements
of
this
by
State
Statute.
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
with
that,
because
this
is
a
large
project
in
the
city
and
I.
Don't
know
who's
here
to
chat
about
it,
but
otherwise
do
we
have
the
applicant
with
us.
A
H
A
H
Yeah,
so
we
if
I,
could
just
maybe
just
do
a
broad
introduction,
because
we
do
have
a
large
contingent
here
of
our
project
team
and
development
team.
Let.
A
D
A
H
Sure,
thank
you
so
again:
I'm
Joe
White
with
white
and
Burke
Real,
Estate
advisors.
We
are
the
overall
project
manager
working
with
the
district,
and
we
do
have
several
members
from
our
design
team
and
project
team
rather
than
including
Everyone
by
name
I'll.
H
Just
you
know
briefly
say
that
we've
got
well
other
than
Lyle
Smith
who's,
director
of
Property
Services,
with
the
the
school
district
he's
on
the
line,
but
we
have
several
Architects
our
civil
engineer,
our
stormwater
engineer,
landscape
architect,
traffic
Transportation
consultant
and
also
our
environmental
consultant
and
construction
advisor
on
the
line
tonight,
so
I
think
we're
pretty
well
covered
in
case
you
have
any
technical
questions
that
you
want
to
ask,
but
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
that
we
have
a
kind
of
a
very
brief
kind
of
high-level
project
overview
presentation
that
we
want
to
just
quickly
walk
you
through
we'll
have
Brian
Lee
with
Freeman
French
Freeman
Architects,
walk
you
through
that
and
present
the
project
and
then
after
Brian
we'd,
like
our
landscape,
architect,
Mike
Willard
with
VHB,
just
to
say
a
few
words
and
specifically
address
one
of
the
conditions
that
was
included
in
the
conservation
boards
recommendation
last
night
that
we
include
in
our
landscape
plan
only
native
space
species.
H
So
he
would
like
to
say
a
few
words
about
that
and
then
we'll
finish
with
our
traffic
Transportation
consultant
Jen
Conley
with
BHB,
who
will
just
say
a
few
words
regarding
our
the
the
TDM
plan
that
we
submitted
and
our
proposal
to
not
require
the
district
to
purchase
car
share
memberships,
but
she'll
kind
of
walk
through
that
real
quickly
include
some
reasons
why
we
don't
think
that
that
would
be
necessarily
beneficial
to
our
TDM
plan.
So
with
that,
I'll
have
Brian
kind
of
lead
us
through
the
project.
I
Sorry
about
that,
okay,
now
you
can
hear
me
all
right,
so
we're
looking
at
the
overall
site
plan
rendered
for
the
project.
The
new
Burlington,
High,
School
and
Technical
Center
completely
replaces
the
academic
buildings
which
will
all
be
removed
from
the
existing
High
School.
The
existing
building
a
is
roughly
in
the
area
of
the
technical
center
here
and,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
current
site,
the
existing
parking
lot
is
roughly
in
this
area
marked
High
School.
I
The
project
introduces
a
new
Access
Road
to
the
south
side
of
the
building
off
of
Institute
Road
and
creates
an
entrance
facing
Institute
Road
for
visitors
during
school
hours
and
entry
to
the
first
level
of
a
multi-story
Commons
at
the
center
of
the
building
that
connects
through
the
building
continuing
down
that
access
road.
We
have
the
entrance
to
the
technical
center
program
with
its
own
distinct
entry
at
a
lower
level
that
only
exists
kind
of
in
this
southwest
portion
of
the
building.
I
The
existing
Access
Road
up
the
west
side
of
the
site
is
slightly
realigned
and
gives
access
to
a
screened
loading
and
service
area.
This
will
be
functioned
both
for
loading.
It's
also
going
to
have
the
fleet
vehicles
associated
with
the
school
and
those
are
screened
with
coniferous
plantings
around
the
South
and
North
edges,
and
then
we
have
the
loading
dock
I'm.
I
Sorry,
the
the
double
tray
of
parking
up
in
the
area
where
the
buildings
see
through
f
for
the
current
High
School
are
located,
which
also
provide
access
to
the
north
side
entrance,
which
is
on
level
two
of
The
multi-story
Commons
in
the
building.
I
I
We're
showing
the
our
understanding
of
the
city's
intention
to
introduce
bike
Lanes
down
both
sides
of
Institute
Road.
Currently,
the
south
side
of
Institute
Road
has
a
a
series
of
parking
spaces.
So
we
are.
We
are
anticipating
that
those
parking
spaces
will
no
longer
be
available.
We're
also
showing
the
relocation
of
the
bus
stop
along
North
Avenue
from
the
south
side
of
the
intersection
to
the
north
side.
There's
currently
a
Bus
Loop
here
which
made
that
a
poor
location
for
a
bus
stop,
but
by
relocating
the
bus
stop
in
this
new
design.
I
It
avoids
one
traffic
Crossing
for
all
the
people
arriving
to
the
site
or
departing
the
site
from
onto
a
southbound
bus.
I
The
two
drop-off
areas
are
designed
for
either
car
or
bus
travel
and
Jen
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
transportation
plan.
I
I
I'll,
briefly,
walk
you
through
the
floor
plans.
I
know
it's
not
really
within
your
jurisdiction
to
do
kind
of
design
review
on
them,
given
the
the
district's
status,
but
it's
helpful
to
understand
the
building
exists.
It's
a
four-story
building
essentially,
but
it
runs
down
the
hill.
I
This
entrance
here
off
of
the
first
floor
is
a
entrance
to
the
first
level
of
the
commons.
It's
also
functions
as
a
visitor
entry
during
school
hours,
so
people
arriving
to
the
school
outside
of
student
arrival
would
have
to
come
to
this
door,
be
buzzed
into
the
vestibule,
enter
the
principal's
office,
get
tagged
in
checked
and
either
got
their
escort
or
directions
before
proceeding
into
the
school,
so
that
becomes
the
single
point
of
access
during
school
hours.
I
I
The
second
level
has
a
connected
upper
portion
for
the
common
space
overlooking
the
spaces
below
to
the
east
Wing.
You
have
the
first
level
of
the
main
Academic
Program
between
the
comments
and
that
you
have
the
auditorium
here,
entering
from
the
back
of
the
a
lower
seating
pole,
up
the
risers
and
and
out
to
the
back
and
then
on
the
west
side
of
the
commons.
I
You
have
the
Athletics
the
gymnasium
program,
with
both
a
two-court
gym
with
hardwood
for
varsity
basketball
and
also
with
a
operable
partition,
a
synthetic
floor
gym
for
more
community
space,
which
is
also
provided
with
its
own
separate
entrance,
so
that
that
portion
of
the
building
can
be
isolated,
made
secure
and
used
for
Community
functions
in
this
Wing.
We
also
have
some
design
technology
and
food
programs
associated
with
the
health
and
wellness
aspects
of
the
high
school.
I
J
I
I
The
roof
is
planned
for
photovoltaics
across
all
the
areas
that
that
kind
of
could
function
for
that
element.
In
addition,
we
are
looking
at
adding
green
roofs
in
areas
that
are
not
as
suitable
to
putting
photovoltaics
due
to
smaller
areas
or
constraints
on
the
space.
I
Very
briefly,
the
elevations
of
the
building
it
is
a
large
building
is,
is
obvious
from
the
square
footage.
It's
about
560
feet
long
faces
East
towards
North
Avenue,
so
we
have
a
kind
of
a
feature
element
to
face:
North
Avenue
and
then
here's
the
west
elevation
facing
back
into
the
property,
and
this
is
the
basic
view
from
near
the
intersection
with
Institute,
Road
and
North
Avenue.
I
Here
you
can
see
the
drop
off
if
you're
familiar
with
the
site,
there's
a
pretty
significant
grade
change
from
the
intersection
at
North
Avenue
down
to
the
West
End
of
the
property.
So
in
order
to
make
the
drop
off
work,
the
the
drop-off
grade
is
relatively
level
and
then
comes
back
down
steeply
to
re-meet
that
road
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill,
again
there's
the
element
kind
of
facing
North
Avenue
and
from
the
north
side
entrance
from
the
parking
levels.
I
B
I
got
the
mixed
up
yeah,
he
is,
let
me
find
him
and.
E
J
Great,
thank
you,
so
the
the
just
briefly
talking
about
sort
of
the
landscape
design
for
the
site
so
really
in
large
part,
mostly
using
sort
of
Native
and
adaptive
plant
material
for
the
tree
species
and
shrubs
around
the
property
that
sort
of
line
the
main
entry
Drive
coming
in
and
sort
of
The
Pedestrian
walkways.
J
J
We've
got
a
sort
of
a
mix
of
Evergreens
and
deciduous
trees,
and
also
some
Evergreen
and
deciduous
shrubs
they're
sort
of
located
around
the
property
we're
using
ornamental
grasses
in
areas
that
are
immediately
adjacent
to
the
building
within
sort
of
manicured
landscape
beds
that
are
sort
of
in
between
the
building
and
The
Hardscape
elements.
I
think
the
conservation
board
was
had
a
question
about
using
sort
of
ornamentals
like
that
on
the
site,
and
so
these
are
sort
of
typically
used
when
you
see
them
around
the
city
of
Burlington
and
other
places.
J
Knowing
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
teenagers
running
around
the
site
so
and
balancing
what
the
school
district
has
for
capacity
for
sort
of
landscape
maintenance,
weeding
that
sort
of
stuff
so
really
sort
of
really
designing
a
landscape
palette
that
is
sort
of
durable
to
the
urban
environment
and
it
can
handle
the
conditions
that
will
be
sort
of
enduring
and
then
so
by
I,
know,
I,
think
the
conservation
board.
J
Unfortunately,
I
wasn't
in
attendance
at
the
meeting
last
night,
but
there
was
I
believe,
there's
a
comment
about
just
invasives
or
non-native
species
migrating,
but
just
want
to
be
clear
that
any
of
the
ornamental
grasses
that
are
specified
are
sort
of
clump
forming
and
they
don't
spread.
So
they
stay
in
that
sort
of
manicured,
landscape
bed,
sort
of
perennial
areas
in
between
the
building
and
The
Hardscape.
So
you've
got
parking,
lots
and
asphalt
and
a
lot
of
Pavement
in
between
them
and
any
sort
of
naturalized
areas
around
the
property.
J
L
I
To
speak
to
the
the
TDM.
C
J
That's
right
so
any
of
that
sort
of
like
open
lawn
areas,
that's
completely
available
for
anyone
to
sort
of
migrate.
As
long
as
the
the
grades
work,
you
know,
you've
got
some
the
building
floor
to
floor.
Elevations
change
around
as
you
could
have
moved
through,
but
all
that
big
open
lawn
area
was
sort
of
seen
as
available
for
the
students
for
Passive
Recreation
and
using
at
their
leisure.
M
In
regards
to
the
TDM
plan,
we
were
very
thoughtful
about
the
what
was
proposed.
M
The
population
here
is
primarily,
as
you
all
know,
high
school
students
who
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
a
car
share,
and
so,
given
that
students,
as
well
as
there's
a
commitment
for
all
staff
at
the
high
school
to
receive
fully
subsidized
Transit,
passes
that
Works
to
reduce
the
Reliance
on
automobile
trips
for
both
of
those
populations
in
a
way
that
is
much
greater
than
what
is
required
by
the
ordinance
and
much
greater
than
what
would
typically
be
offered
if
someone
were
to
join
katma,
for
example,
enjoy
their
join
their
pay
as
their
go.
M
They
go
program
in
this
way,
anyone
in
the
population
is
able
to
get
a
transit
pass
and
use
that
form
of
transportation.
In
addition,
as
far
as
car
share,
in
addition
to
membership,
there's
also
the
challenge
of
locate
locating
cars
that
if
there
is
not
a
demand
population
nearby,
that
the
person
placing
the
car
or
asking
the
car
share
to
be
placed
at
that
site
ends
up
requiring
you
know
having
to
do
a
minimum
subsidy
to
be
able
to
keep
a
car
at
that
location.
M
So
those
factors
combined
to
a
recommendation
to
just
stay
with
the
focus
of
TDM
on
the
transit,
and
if
some
someone
does
have
a
need
for
a
car
share,
there
is
a
car
share
location
0.6
miles
away,
but
where,
in
a
close,
walking
distance,
there
isn't
a
large
population
who
would
want
to
use
the
car
share,
especially
given
the
high
Transit
subsidy
piece.
We
did
not
recommend
the
participation
in
the
car
share
in
the
TDM
plan,
as
presented.
A
Okay,
you
know
yeah
it's
interesting,
I
you're,
not
really
changing
to
I
mean
you're,
going
from
high
school
to
high
school,
so
foreign
I'm.
A
The
thought
effort
you
put
into
that,
but
you
know
I,
was
thinking
about
this
myself
and
looking
at
the
applications
like
well
sort
of
the
same
number
of
kids
to
the
same
number
of
kids.
Ultimately
we're
not
adding
any
new
used
to
the
site.
A
A
How
do
we,
this
is
sort
of
for
staff?
Obviously
I'm
well
aware
of
the
Brownfield
issues
on
the
site.
I
think
we
all
are.
This
is
a
question
for
staff.
E
The
timeline
will
be
defined
by
by
those
methods
that
are
going
to
be
employed
for
the
cleanup
of
the
site.
Okay,.
A
Do
we
need
to
and
I'm
assuming
they
can't
start
reconstruction
until
those
are
completed,
and
so,
where
I'm
going
is
our
permits
have
a
timeline
in
them?
Do
we
need
to
address
I
mean
that
could
take
a
while
or
it
could
take
some
period
of
time?
Do
we
need
to
do?
We
have
the
authority
to
specifically
change
our
timelines,
because
there's
some
limited
extensions
we
can
provide
and
I'm
just
what's
listed
under
Brownfield
remediation
could
take
a
while
sure
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
in
a
permanent
exploration.
E
A
A
A
A
E
H
No
I
think
I
think
we
presented
what
we
wanted
to
just
to
kind
of
introduce
you
to
the
project
and
some
of
the
issues
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
B
Applicant
has
some
concerns
with
that
I
had
a
quick
conversation
with
the
City
Arborist
and
City
Lane
Stewart
this
afternoon
would
recommend,
in
the
spirit
of
the
conservation
board's
recommendation,
to
include
a
condition
to
the
effect
of
working
out
the
final
details
for
the
planting
plan,
with
an
emphasis
on
Native
species,
but
allowing
for
non-natives,
where
there's
justification
for
that,
such
as
salt
tolerance,
right
and
that's
a
pretty
common
reason
to
go
with
something
that
is
non-native,
but
basically
defer
to
final
details
on
that,
depending
working
at
working
that
out
with
with
the
Parks
Department
where
the
City
Arborist.
B
However,
you
want
to
phrase
that
the
other
point
I'd
make
is
the
car
share
requirement
under
the
TDM
is
just
that
it's
a
requirement.
It
can't
be
waived
if
it's
a
terrible
policy,
then
tell
the
policy
makers.
There's
a
follow-up
amendment
to
article
eight.
That's
before
the
city
council
still
has
been
there
for
a
few
months,
but
the
car
share
membership
requirement
is
just
that.
B
It's
a
requirement,
there's
wording
that
says,
or
with
an
equivalent
or
better
service,
and
a
conceivable
alternative
is
let's
say
the
school
district
decided
to
have
its
own
vehicle
available
for
staff
use
and
that
that
would
be
an
example
of
equivalent
her
better
but
side
of
that.
The
car
share
membership
is
needed.
B
C
Scott
and
the
bus
passes
can't
take
the
place
of
the
car
share
requirement.
B
B
Yeah,
all
all
employees,
all
tenants,
obviously
for
residential
or
employees.
G
B
E
B
Trust
me
there's
been
plenty
of
debate
with
the
follow-up
amendment
to
article
8
about
that.
G
Sticking
with
parking
for
a
minute,
I'm
curious
about
the
layout
right
in
front
of
the
building
and
I
was
unsure
of
the
exact
number
of
spaces,
and
the
orientation
I
also
bring
this
up
because
there
was
a
video
posted.
G
K
There's
no
parallel
parking
along
that
drop-off,
curb
that
that
is
the
morning
setting
where
parents
are
dropping
off
their
students
and
moving
on
and
then
there's
very
short-term
pullover
for
during
the
day
use
for
visitors.
K
We
we
fail.
The
design
will
allow
for
that
if
the
school
district
deems
it
necessary,
but
is
pretty
much
self-serve
with
enough
curb
line
to
accommodate
that
amount
of
traffic
safely,
the
crosswalks
are
all
designated,
so
it's
certainly
a
possibility.
A
G
Was
I
was
wondering
yeah
just
there
was
also
a
question
about
storm
water
in
the
last
preliminary
review
of
this.
Perhaps
you
could
talk
about
both
the
stormwater
system
and
the
maintenance
Road.
N
So
Dave
Marshall
here
from
the
Civil
Engineering
Associates
I'll
touch
it
I'm
sorry
evening,
Dave,
yes,
thank
you.
In
this
particular
case,
we
did
respond
to
the
staff
comment
regarding
access
to
the
proposed
stormwater
Management
Facility.
So
we
have
updated
the
application
to
reflect
that
particular
feature
so
to
enable
easier
access
to
the
various
components
of
the
stormwater
management
procedure
facility.
N
So
in
this
particular
case,
just
for
orientation
on
the
plan
before
you
looking
at
actually
the
southern
end
of
this
particular
site
plan
you'll
see
the
track
and
the
football
field
actually
just
to
the
left
or
west
of
that
is
the
existing
stormwater
Management
Facility.
It's
essentially
a
large
pond
that
takes
the
stormwater
runoff
from
not
only
to
school,
but
also
Institute
Road
and
provide
some
level
of
settling
as
an
open,
Pond
and
then
ultimately
discharges
into
a
ravine
that
runs
down
to
the
lake.
N
In
this
particular
case,
Watershed
Consulting
Associates
has
provided
a
design
to
provide
improved
water
quality
features.
We
went
over
this
in
a
lot
of
detail
with
the
conservation
boards
last
night
and
we're
happy
to
basically
touch
base
on
that.
N
To
give
you
an
update
in
regards
to
that
particular
critical
feature
in
regards
to
how
to
how
we're
actually
not
only
consolidating
this
particular
site
from
the
footprints
that
are
building
footprints
that
occupies
previously,
but
more
specifically
in
regards
to
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
prior
site
and
how
we're
improving
upon
that
with
this
particular
proposal
I
now
it
may
be
a
good
time
to
have
Andres
chorizo
touch
base
on
that.
If
you'd,
like
Mr
chair.
O
You
doing
AJ
so
I'd
be
happy
just
to
give
just
a
quick
overview
of
the
storm
water
system,
so
we
looked
at
what's
called
a
regenerative
storm
water
conveyance
and
it's
a
newer
type
of
treatment
technology
that
I've.
O
Actually
we
we've
done
successfully
here
in
Vermont,
but
it's
originally
was
I
was
thought
up
in
the
Chesapeake
and
it's
really
specific
towards
restoring
degraded,
ephemeral
channels
like
this
and-
and
it
really
was-
was
perfect
for
this
site,
because
in
the
in
the
current
condition
the
school
all
the
drainage
from
the
school
ends
up
at
a
very
large
outfall
to
the
west
of
the
track
and
that
outfall,
if
you
were
to
go
down
and
look
at
it,
is
failing
it's
a
large,
concrete
structure.
O
It's
it's
broken,
it's
failing,
there's
a
lot
of
erosion
Downstream
and
it's
and
it's
carved
to
you
know
quite
a
bit
of
a
large
channel
that
eventually
makes
its
way
down
to
the
lake.
And
so
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
utilize.
O
The
upper
part
of
the
channel
really
mostly
just
adjacent
to
the
track
to
the
west
of
the
track
and
basically
restore
that
channel,
but
at
the
same
time
provide
you
know:
water
quality
enhancement
through
Sand,
Filtration
and
also
restoring
with
with
Native
Wetland
seating
stabilizing
the
banks,
which
are
in
some
places
eroded
and
also
just
providing
a
lot
of
flow
detention
through.
Basically
restoring
an
outlet
control
at
the
at
the
lower
end
of
the
structure
is
a
large
kind
of
a
ponded
area.
O
Where
there's
a
lot
of
debris,
that's
accumulated
over
the
years,
a
lot
of
brush
and
other
trash
and
debris
and
we're
going
to
formalize
an
outlet
control
there.
So
essentially
there'll
be
better
flow
control
from
the
system.
So
it's
kind
of
what
you
would
Envision
to
be
a
step
cool,
so
it
kind
of
flows
from
one
one
cool
to
the
next
and
it
flows.
You
know
it
follows
kind
of
the
natural
grade
down
and
there's
sand
beds.
O
You
know
at
each
step
there's
a
there's,
a
sand
bed
and
then
the
sand
bed
has
some
natural.
You
know
Woody
vegetation
is
going
to
be
left
in
there
for
some
additional
kind
of
check,
Dam
structures,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
general
summary
that
of
the
stormwater
system
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
go
into
more
detail
in
terms
of
the
permitting
or
anything.
You
would
like
to
know
specifically.
H
Do
you
have
the
most
recent
one
that
shows
the
the
access
road,
the
maintenance,
Road
per
path.
I
Yes,
I
actually
see,
as
the
most
recent
C
2.0
is
that
the.
E
O
Right
so
I
I
can
I
can
just
describe
what
you're
looking
at
here
on
the
you
can
just
see
the
basically
the
edge
of
the
track
to
the
yeah
right
where,
where
the
cursor
is
there,
there's
the
track
so
we're
looking
just
to
the
West
or
left
of
the
track,
and
you
know
so.
The
storm
water
comes
into
a
large
four-base
system
and
that's
where
currently,
where
the
outfall
that
I
was
describing
is
located
where
all
the
pipes
come
together.
O
Currently
for
all
the
drainage
from
the
school
and
there's
there's
a
large,
concrete
structure
there.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
four
bay
structure
and
then
from
the
four
bay.
The
water
goes
to
the
South
and
it
goes
through
these
series
of
Bays.
O
You
can
see
the
bays
and
those
bays
are
separated
by
these
large
gabian
check
dams
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
controls
the
grades
and
the
water
kind
of
spills
from
one
to
the
next
to
the
next
and
then
finally,
right
where
the
cursor
is
now
is
kind
of
the
larger
pool
at
the
end,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
controlled
by
a
pipe
which
goes
under
the
kind
of
the
land
bridge
which
is
in
really
right
in
the
park.
There's
a
there's,
an
outlet
structure
there.
O
I
A
It's
pretty
robust
stormwater
system,
the
staff
notes,
sort
of
I
think
address
maintenance
unders.
How
do
you
maintain
that
system.
O
So
the
the
four
bay
would
be
the
place
where
all
the
solids
would
accumulate,
and
so
that
would
be
you
know,
the
main
maintenance
point
of
the
system
would
be
cleaning
making
sure
that
the
four
bay
is
clean,
clean,
kept
clean
as
sediment
and
other
debris
and
stuff
would
accumulate
and
then,
as
as
any
debris,
would
accumulate
on
this
on
the
sand
beds
themselves,
I
mean
they
would
be
scraped.
You
know,
material
would
accumulate
on
the
surface,
it
would
be
removed.
O
You
know
periodically
sand
may
need
to
be
reintroduced,
but
that
wouldn't
be
like
a
an
every
year
kind
of
a
thing
that
would
just
be
if
it
if
it
started
all
the
vegetation
would
start
to
take
hold
and
find
material
would
accumulate
on
there.
It
could
be
scraped
off
and
then
sand
could
be
reintroduced.
So
I
mean
that
would
be
the
main.
O
C
Hey
Jay,
the
as
a
request
for
a
waiver
on
the
number
of
bike
parking
to
be
provided
with
the
ordinance
sort
of
asking
480
and
136
have
been
proposed.
C
H
Yeah
yeah
we
do
maybe
Jen
could
speak
to
that.
Vhb
did
do
a
parking
demand,
a
bike
parking
demand
study
at
the
existing
High
School,
which
indicated
you
know,
kind
of
low
usage,
and
if
we
went
with
that
standard
and
applied
it
to
our
estimated
student
capacity
at
this
new
school
I
think
we
would
only
need
like
48
bike
parking
spaces,
but
we're
proposing
130,
6
I
believe
it
is.
But
Jen
do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
study
you
did
I.
M
Don't
have
too
much
more
to
add
to
that.
We
did
collect
data
on
a
number
of
days
at
the
existing
facility
and
noted
not
just
bikes
in
the
in
the
bike
designated
bike
parking,
but
any
bikes
really
anywhere
around
the
facility
locked
to
anything
I'm.
Just
assuming
that
it
might
be.
You
know,
correlate
to
store
student
demand
and,
as
was
already
presented,
found
that
that
demand
is
significantly
below
it.
Was
you
know
about
a
quarter
of
what
you
know?
What
was
being
what
we're
currently
proposing
for
bike
accommodation
on
the
proposed
site.
E
G
Thank
you:
is
there
a
space
next
to
the
current
parking
facilities,
to
build
more
or
to
put
in
more
if
that
need
should
should
arise.
I
K
G
G
K
K
Want,
essentially,
you
know,
High
School
is
a
community
building
and
should
be
open
and
used
by
the
community,
and
so
we
will
have
a
security
plan
they're
already
security
policies
in
place
by
the
school
district,
but
to
reinforce
that
through
the
architecture,
there'll
be
an
audio
visual
system
and
a
camera
system
on
all
the
entry
points
and
within
the
school
there'll
also
be
zones
within
the
school
that
can
be
secured
and
locked
so
that
partial
access
to
certain
pieces
of
the
school
can
be
quadrant
off.
K
K
I
That
talks
about
the
you
know
Peak
capacity
during
sports
events
and
and
other
events,
and
there
was
a
discussion
and
decision
at
the
district
level
to
to
try
to
support
the
goals
of
not
over
providing
parking
and
a
recognition
that,
in
some
cases,
that
might
require
the
district
to
do
other
arrangements
with
neighbors
and
shuttles
and
that
sort
of
thing
yeah.
A
The
expanse
of
you
know
impervious
surface
parking
as
much
as
we
can
in
general.
A
Okay,
is
there
anyone
else
in
the
is
there
anybody
in
the
audience
that
wants
to
speak
on
this
application,
raise
your
hand.
P
A
A
Right
floor
is
yours,.
P
Thank
you,
so
I
think
Leo
just
touched
on
some
of
what
I
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
it
had
to
do
with
when
this
process
began,
and
it
was
before
the
Planning
Commission
for
zoning,
and
at
that
time
the
high
school
was
in
two
zones,
which
would
have
allowed
for
greater
numbers
of
cars
or
greater
number
of
surface
parking
and
I'm
not
like
I,
don't
want
to
cover
the
the
world
with
concrete
and
and
parking
lots,
but
I
do
know.
P
I
mean
I
didn't
grow
up
in
this
in
this
community,
but
my
children
did
and
they
went
to
BHS
and
even
after
they
graduated
I've
gone
to
track
events
that
have
been
Regional
and
I
was
concerned.
There
was
a
reduction
as
a
result
of
that
discussion.
Rather
than
two
zones.
It
was
one
zone
and
for
TDM
reasons
what
originally
was
thought
for
a
number
of
surface
parking
basis
was
reduced
and
I
kept
I
kept
being
concerned
about
those
events
and
I
know
that
those
don't
happen
all
that
frequently.
But
I'm
not
sure.
P
It's
realistic
to
think
people
that
are
coming
from
other
parts
of
the
state
are
going
to
use
some
neighbors,
driveway
and
or
or
how
you're
going
to
shuttle
people
I
mean
I
live
on
East
Avenue
and
you
know
we
have
the
lake
monsters
behind
my
house
and
there
is
parking
from
gutterson
to
here
to
East
Avenue.
It's
very
slick
it
works
really
well,
but
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
that's
really
a
close
distance
and
people
could.
If
they
wanted
to
leave
early,
they
could
walk
back
to
their
car.
P
They
wouldn't
be
dependent
on
a
shuttle
bus,
so
I'm
concerned
a
little
bit
about
how
that
all
played
out.
What
I
was
told
during
the
process
was
that
the
schools
could
always
ask
for
a
waiver
not
to
reduce
the
number
of
spaces,
but
to
ask
for
more
spaces
and
I've
never
heard
that
stated.
I
think
that
they're
environmentally
aware
and
very
conscientious
and
I
applaud
them
for
that.
P
That
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
the
number
of
spaces,
not
on
a
daily
basis,
most
of
the
time
they
know
their
business
far
better
than
I,
but
it
has
to
do
with
those
events
that
occur
and
I
and
I.
Think
BHS
has
been
a
magnet
for
a
lot
of
different
things
to
occur
there
and
community
events
and
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that
reasonably
and
not
short
Us.
In
that
process.
P
I
would
like
to
think
like
so
many
other
people.
Everything
seems
to
we
seem
to
be
moving
forward
with
with
reducing
parking,
but
we
don't
really
have
a
really
good.
As
we
all
know,
public
transportation
system,
we
just
don't
have
it,
and
so
it
seems
like
we
are
and
we're
trying
to
force
it.
But
it's
that's
not
happening
very
effectively,
so
I'm
concerned
about
this
and
and
needed
to
raise
that
with
the
drb
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
appreciate
that
I
think
you
know
you
raised
an
interesting
point
about
the
overall
traffic
impact
from
you
know:
High
School
events
Scott,
do
you
have
your
hand
up
I.
L
A
B
All
means
just
real
quick
conservation
board
acted
last
night
and
I
see
Mary
posted
the
minutes
in
the
packet,
but
I
just
thought:
I'd
mention
the
their
recommendation.
I
already
mentioned
the
the
Landscaping,
but
the
other
two
conditions
go
hand
in
hand
as
to
stormwater,
and
that
is
consider
educational
opportunities
focused
on
the
stormwater
system
and
funding
through
Green
Schools,
and
integrate
monitoring
capabilities
into
the
stormwater
outfall
that
really
centers
on
there's
an
opportunity
here
for
educational
environmental
benefit
here
being
on
the
BHS
campus.
A
Okay,
all
right
does
the
applicant
want
to
address
Sharon's
commentary.
H
Sure
I'll
start
and
if
anybody
any
other
team
members
have
anything
to
add,
please
do,
but
you
know
we
have
felt
all
along
that
the
362
spaces
that
we're
proposing
will
be
adequate
to
serve.
You
know
daily
demand,
and
you
know:
we've
we've
talked
about
these
handful
events
that
that
do
occur.
H
You
know
throughout
the
year
where
there
might
be
more
parking
demand
than
the
spaces
provided,
but
you
know
it
really
is
only
a
handful
of
events
and
we
did
discuss
the
possibility
of
maybe
constructing
a
an
overflow
parking
area
somewhere
on
the
site.
That
would
basically
consist
of
a
grass
over
reinforced
area
and
we've.
H
We
came
to
the
conclusion
that
we
didn't
think
that
it
was
really
necessary
and
that
it
was
worth
the
expense
to
construct
something
like
that
and
also
have
to
request
a
waiver
to
exceed
the
parking
Max,
and
we
really
just
came
down
to
the
conclusion
that
we
feel
that
we
can
or
the
district
feels
that
it
can
adequately
handle
those
large
events
through
some
kind
of
a
parking
management
plan.
You
know
where
maybe
we
park
people
down
at
the
campground
or
at
or
at
the
beach
or
or
maybe
some
institutional
uses.
H
H
Not
planning
to
request
a
waiver
for
more
parking
than
what
is
being
proposed
or
what
is
allowed.
A
Okay,
well,
if
no
one
else
has
any
questions,
I
suggest
that
we
close
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
deliberate
on
this.
H
Yeah
so
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
we
wanted
to.
You,
know,
call
out
a
couple
of
the
recommended
conditions
in
the
staff
report
and
just
ask
that
you
consider
revising
those
and
we've
already
talked
about
both
of
them.
The
first
one
was
the
the
the
conservations
board's
recommendation
that
we
include
only
non-native
species
and
we
agree
with
and
support
Scott's
recommendation
to
revise
that
to
basically
require
the
applicant
to
work
with
the
City
Arborist
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
meets
his
approval.
H
The
park
Department's
approval
and
then
requires
his
approval
before
we
start
construction.
So
we
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
record
saying
we
do
support
that
that
revision
and
then
the
other
one
was
just
in
regards
to
the
TDM
requirement
that
we
purchase
car
share
memberships.
You
know
we
were
going
to
ask
if
there's
any
way
you
could
be
flexible
and
not
require
that
we
would.
We
would
certainly
support
that,
but
I
understand
what
Scott
is
saying
and
I'll.
A
That
thanks
Joe,
so
with
that
I'll
close
the
public
hearing.
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentations.
B
Yeah,
you
do
I'm
still
just
cleaning
up
from
the
last
item.
Aj
give
me
a
second
yeah.
Yeah
I
didn't
even
have
to
throw
Brian
out.
He
left
all
right,
okay,
Bruce
Bruce,
you
can
talk
to
us,
Dan
I
think
is
involved.
Let
me
know
if
anything
else
should
weigh
in.
Q
A
Do
you
swear
that
testimony
you
give
tonight
will
be
true
and
correct
under
the
pains
and
penalties
of
perjury
I
do
okay
great!
So
you
know
we
have
the
staff
comments.
We
see
the
project.
I
guess
I
should
tell
the
record
that
I
work
down
the
street,
so
I'm
well
I'm,
well
aware
of
the
the
block.
A
Why
don't
you
walk
us
through
your
project?
Briefly,.
R
Once
again,
all
right-
this
is
Dan
goldsman.
R
The
project
architect
for
this
proposal
and
what
is
being
considered
here
is
an
addition
to
a
an
addition
so
on
on
the
site,
as
can
be
seen
in
the
elevations
and
the
renderings
that
we
submitted
is
the
1832
Chauncey
Goodrich
Luther
Hager
house
at
325
College,
a
subsequent
addition
to
the
west
of
that
from
2010
325
323
college,
and
what
we're
discussing
tonight
is
a
addition
to
the
north
of
the
2010
piece
along
the
street
front,
so
three
pieces,
a
total
of
17
units
in
a
lot
vehicle
and
bicycle
lot.
R
As
a
result,
the
fourth
story,
the
top
story
of
what
we're
proposing,
was
set
back
so
that
the
facade
of
that
fourth
story
is
in
line
with
the
historic
structure
as
well.
The
piece
we're
proposing
has
brick
clotting,
similar
bricks,
similar
color
to
the
historic
piece
it
has
Windows
with
gridded
windows.
With
mountains,
similar
black
color
to
the
historic
piece
and
both
the
piece
we're
proposing
and
the
historic
building
have
entry
elements
along
their
street
side
features
along
the
street
side
facades.
R
We
also
wanted
to
tie
the
the
four-story
piece
that
we're
proposing
to
the
existing
Edition,
so
they
have
a
similar
cornice
detail.
The
detail
along
the
top
of
the
building
wraps
from
the
2010
piece
to
what
we're
proposing
the
top
floor
material
is
white
clobbered,
similar
to
the
addition
that
it's
being
attached
to
similar
color
similar
trim
details
the
corners
around
the
windows
and
the
bottom
floor
of
what
we're
proposing
is
clad
and
stone
similar
to
the
previous
Edition
and
also
similar
to
the
1832
piece
without
which
has
a
stone
foundation.
R
L
R
R
N
A
G
Know
nobody
it
it's
really
about
the
the
issue
of
the
original
structure
and
the
prominence
and
and
and
whether
the
new
structure
encroaches
on
that
too.
Many
thoughts
about
that
Dan.
R
I
do
Bruce.
Do
you
want
me
to
address
this,
or
are
you.
Q
Q
You
know
to
H
and
and
then,
which
was
I
think
adopted,
maybe
about
seven
or
eight,
maybe
15
years
ago,
or
so,
but
after
the
historic
standards,
and
it
requires
that
the
any
additions
reinforce
the
existing
Street
Edge.
So
there's
substantial
sort
of
pull
and
talk
as
there
are
so
many
places
in
the
ordinance
between
them.
Q
I'd
also
say
that
if
you
drive
by
Cambrian
rise,
I
think
this
board
is
sort
of
come
into
come
to
grips
with
those
two
elements
of
the
ordinance
and
the
rise
to
the
south
of
it
is
boldly
forward
at
the
street
and
the
connecting
orphanage
structure
they're
connected
and
it
and
I
could
share
a
screen
and
show
you
a
picture
of
that,
and
from
one
side
you
you
can
you
can't
really
see
the
orphanage
at
all
and
that's
not
the
case
here.
Q
You
can
somewhat
CRS
and,
as
you
can
see
from
our
rendering
happy
to
share
that
picture,
to
show
you
that
but
I
think
I,
don't
I,
think
we
meet
the
standards
of
5.4.8
and
also
the
6.2.1,
which
requires
that
street
Edge
to
be
consistent
with
neighboring
properties.
C
C
R
L
R
Okay,
so,
as
I
said,
this
is
attached
to
the
front
of
the
previous
Edition
and
between
the
previous
Edition
and
the
new
piece
is
basically
a
circulation
spine.
R
So
you
you,
the
main
entry
is
along
the
driveway
to
the
side
and
there's
a
stairway
there
and
it
accesses
each
of
the
four
Apartments
which
are
located
closer
to
the
street
front.
R
Q
We're
not
anywhere
near
law
coverage
problems,
it's
a
three-quarter
acre,
so.