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City Council 1/23/2023 Agenda
00:00:00 Call To Order
00:00:25 Agenda
00:00:55 Public Hearing - Charter Change
00:27:30 Update: Crisis Response Team
00:42:45 Climate Emergency Reports
00:50:10 Committee Reports
00:57:20 City Council General Affairs
00:58:00 City Council President Updates
00:58:28 Mayor - General Affairs
00:59:05 Local Control Commission Meeting
01:01:55 Public Forum
01:17:00 Consent Agenda
01:17:45 City Council - Mayor Presiding
01:35:47 Update: Redistricting Maps
02:28:14 Tobacco License: Kampus Kitchen
02:29:00 City Council Rules
02:39:15 Summaries of Charter Change Amendments
03:19:30 Waterfront TIF District: Substantial Change Request
03:30:45 Waterfront TIF District: Application to VEPC
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E
If
you
did
speak
at
the
January
17th
public
hearing,
please
limit
your
comments
to
the
Charter
changes
that
you
didn't
speak
to
at
the
first
hearing,
we've
allotted
30
minutes
for
the
public
hearing
and
are
going
to
try
very
hard
to
honor
honor
that
time
limit
so
that
we
can
get
on
with
the
rest
of
our
meeting
at
the
last
public
hearing.
As
you
may
recall,
that
was
our
only
item
on
the
agenda
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
E
Among
the
other
aspects
of
the
statute
is
that
the
legislative
body
shall
hold
at
least
two
public
hearings
prior
to
the
meeting
to
vote
on
the
charter
proposals.
So
this
is
the
second
of
two
such
hearings,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
at
seven
I'm,
sorry
at
5,
5
44,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
people
in
person
who
wish
to
speak.
The
first
is
Sinead
Murray
and
chenada.
You
present
please
come
please
come
and
come
to
the
table.
F
Like
that
perfect
I
was
here
last
week
and
I
was
planning
to
again
make
a
comment
in
support
of
ranked
Choice
voting.
But
after
hearing
that
you'd
prefer
me
not
to
I'll
restrain
and
just
say
that,
like
with
the
12-6
special
election,
V
perk
is
planning
a
comprehensive
and
robust
voter
education
program.
F
I'm,
seeing
my
East
District
counselor
mayor
Brandt,
it's
nice
to
see
you
again,
we
held
to
candidate
training
and
are
planning
to
do
the
same
and
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
the
public
and
for
your
tireless
work
on.
So
many
of
the
pro-democracy
charter
change
items
on
the
back
of
the
ballot
and
thanks
so
much
thank.
E
You
thanks
for
being
here.
The
other
person
who
wanted
to
speak,
who
is
here
in
person,
is
actually
not
here
right
at
this
moment.
So
I'll
I'll
go
to
the
next
speaker,
which
are
speakers
that
are
that
are
joining
us
online
and
there
is
only
one
who
asked
to
speak
in
the
I
believe,
there's
only
one
who
is
asking
to
speak
in
the
public
hearing
and
that
is
Ken
Casella.
E
G
Good,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
I
opposed
the
proposed
control
board
in
its
current
form,
in
any
oversight
that
we
do
have
I
think
must
include
field
professionals.
Miss
Hightower
was
quoted
in
Vermont
Digger.
Today,
I
read
it
saying
that
this
is
no
different
than
a
financial
audit,
but
wouldn't
it
be
prudent
to
have
an
accountant
do
a
financial
audit.
The
board
of
dental
examiners
for
the
state
of
Vermont
has
six
dentists
on
the
board,
and
that
seems
logical
to
me.
Policing
is
not
romantic
and
it's
not
Moonlight
and
mistletoe.
G
Every
day
our
police
officers
wear
a
bulletproof
vest.
Why?
Because
they
they
put
their
lives
on
the
line
serving
our
community
every
day.
Your
proposal,
your
proposed
panel,
will
not
know
what
it's
like
to
respond
to
a
domestic
violence
call
or
a
shots
fired
incident
law
enforcement
officers
are
clearly
better
educated
to
handle
these
and
review
the
outcomes
of
these
matters.
Burlington
Police
Department
is
having
a
terrible
time,
filling
its
ranks
and
retaining
officers.
We
need
training
and
compassionate
Personnel.
This
proposal
discourages
new
hires.
It
is
a
noose
that
looms
over
them.
G
It's
a
sign
of
distrust
and
it
is
the
wrong
action
when
we
need
what
we
need
now
is
our
Collective
outstretched
hand
offering
support
and
confidence
in
our
Police
Department
legitimate
oversight's,
a
good
thing,
but
this
Charter
change
is
not.
It
is
short-sighted
and
it's
arrogant.
It
will
do
nothing
to
strengthen
our
police
force
that
we
so
desperately
need
to
keep
our
streets
and
our
Parks
safe.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
H
Yes,
I
did
thank
you.
I
want
to
speak
to
two
topics.
One
is
I
was
excited
to
see
that
the
Vermont
Supreme
Court
upheld
the
ruling
that
non-citizen
voters
can
vote
in
Montpelier
and
throughout
the
state
and
well
that
wasn't
the
specific
question,
but
it
really
gives
more
Credence
to
our
ballot
item.
So
I
was
excited
about
that
and
support
that
Charter
change.
H
The
deviations
are
under
10
percent.
I
think
that
it
really
is
not
a
healthy
thing
to
divide
the
old
North
End
Awards,
two
and
three
I
think
they
are
have
been
a
district
for
forever
and
I.
Don't
think
a
new
map
like
this
necessitates
that
combination
and
I
wanted
to
speak
against
that.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
E
Very
much
Sharon
so
before
we
go
back
into
contos,
because
there
are
two
people
who've
asked
to
speak
in
conchoice.
There
are
three
people
who
have
their
hand
up
and
I'm
assuming
online
I'm.
Assuming
that
you
have
your
hand
up
to
speak
during
the
public
hearing,
so
the
first
person
that
I
see
is
Margaret,
joyle
and
I've
been
I've,
enabled
your
microphone
Margaret.
If
you
wanted
to
speak
now,.
I
I
I
want
to
speak
tonight
about
the
community
community
control
of
the
police,
but
I,
but
I
want
to
raise
a
separate
issue
connected
to
all
that,
which
is
that
I
believe
we
in
fact
don't
I
and
many
of
my
members
of
my
community,
don't
trust
our
police
force.
We
have
seen
things
happen
that
are
not
acceptable.
I
The
discrimination
against
mental
health
survivors,
violence
towards
people
of
color
in
our
city
lies
about
funding
and,
frankly,
absolute
refusal
to
come
to
people's
homes
when
really
frightening
things
are
happening
at
those
homes
and
I
find
that
unacceptable
in
the
deepest
way.
I
would
like
to
call
for
a
consent
decree
I
like
to
pull
in
a
Department
of
Justice
I'm
sure
there
are
many
things
wrong
with
the
ballot
item
that
need.
I
E
J
Thanks
and
sorry
not
to
be
there
in
person,
we
had
an
emergency
in
the
apartment
upstairs
and
I
do
want
to
quickly
speak
to
the
Charter
change.
The
new
information
on
the
charter
change
first,
to
thank
you
for
having
v27
drafted
up
by
City
staff.
As
you
know,
I
I
still
support
that,
but
in
terms
of
the
other
two
maps
that
were
drawn
up,
the
Tweet
V1
and
V2
Earhart.
E
J
E
K
You
so
much
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Sam
McGinty
I'm,
the
Democracy
Advocate,
with
vperg
an
award
two
voter
I
want
to
start
off
by
sincerely
thanking
the
council
for
being
here
today
and
spending
the
time
tonight.
Listening
to
voters
public
comments,
there's
a
lot
of
hard
work
on
some
of
these
pro-democracy
reforms
before
you
today.
K
We're
well
positioned
to
help
Advance
this
Charter
change
proposal
and
make
the
voting
experience
for
city
council
elections
a
success.
As
you
know,
this
isn't
going
to
be
new
for
all
voters
and
voters
in
Warden
ape
in
the
East
District
got
a
taste
on
the
12-6
election.
By
all
indications,
it
was
a
huge
success.
We
have
a
strong
arsenal
of
voter
education
materials
that
we
use
for
that
election,
including
a
Canada
training
council
at
Brandt,
so
good
to
see
you
here.
E
Thank
you
thanks.
So
much
for
joining
us,
we'll
go
back
to
controyce
there
there's
no
one
else
who
has
their
hand
raised
or
anyone
who
wants
to
speak
in
the
public
hearing
that
is
registered
online,
although
you're
still
you're
still
welcome
to
do
so
the
first,
but
we
have
two
speakers
who
wanted
to
speak.
In
contrast
that
I
hadn't
called
on
the
first
is
Fareed
and
the
second
is
Robert
Bristow
Johnson
Fareed
welcome.
L
L
How
are
we
supposed
to
trust
those
people
and,
if
I
don't
know,
if
you've
looked
into
Fraternal
Order
of
the
police,
their
parent
organization,
it
is
a
right-wing
organization
that
is,
that
supports
white
nationalism.
A
big
Trump
supporter
opposed
black
lives
matter.
It
is
opposed
to
everything
that
Burlington
values.
How
are
we
supposed
to
trust
our
safety
to
people
who
hate
us
and
hate
our
values?
L
I
want
to
Echo
Margaret's
call
for
a
Department
of
Justice
consent.
Decree
I,
don't
think
this
ballot
item,
although
I
will
be
voted
voting
yes,
I,
don't
think
it
goes
far
enough.
There's
zero
thrust
in
the
police
department
and
people
who
are
supposed
to
be
holding
them
accountable
are
instead
like
enabling
the
kind
of
problematic
behaviors
that
over
time
has
caused
the
trust
of
the
community
to
be
lost.
Thank
you.
M
M
More
diverse
candidates,
elected
we
want
to
level
the
playing
field
between
independent
and
third-party
candidates
and
the
major
party
candidates.
We
want
to
level
that
playing
field
to
do
that.
We
have
to
disincenti
disincentivize
Tactical
voting,
we
don't.
We
don't
want
people
being
forced
to
pick
the
lesser
of
evils
and
because
they
don't
want
to
see
the
candidate
that
they
hate
the
most
elected
all
right.
In
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
avoid
the
spoiler
effect.
That's
where
we
get
quantitative
and
material.
M
We
can
actually
measure
whether
or
not
we
avoid
the
spoiler
effect,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
ensure
that
the
candidate
with
consistent
majority
support
the
candidate
that
we
like
better.
If
we
like
a
better
we
like
them
better
than
b,
we
like
the
candidate
a
better
than
C,
we
like
candidate,
a
better
than
D.
M
We
have
to
assure
that
that
candidate
is
elected,
because
all
of
this
hinges
on
the
the
consistent
majority
candidate
being
elected,
because
if
you
do
that-
and
if
you
don't
do
that,
if
a
different
candidate
is
elected,
then
you're
guaranteed
to
have
a
spoiled
election
has
to
happen.
Turns
out
that
the
loser
in
the
final
round
is
the
spoiler
always
when
this
failure
happens.
This
failure
happened
in
2009
here
in
this
city.
It
happened
in
Alaska
in
August,
the
special
election
in
August,
and
it
had
a
different
way.
This
happened
in
Minneapolis
in
2021.
M
Now
what
happened
here
was
a
Montreal
was
preferred
by
4064
voters
in
Burlington.
They
marked
they
said.
Annie
Montreal
is
a
better
choice
than
Bob
kiss
Bob
kiss
was
preferred
over
Andy
Montreal
3476
voters,
588
few
voors,
yet
Bob
kiss
was
elected
in
Alaska
87
000
voters
said
that
Nick
bagich
was
a
better
choice.
M
79
000
said
Mary
paltola
was
a
better
choice,
yet
Mary
peltola
was
elected.
No
it's.
If
that
happens.
If
that
spoiler
happens,
then
you
end
up
punishing
a
bunch
of
Voters
for
their
sincere
choice.
You
then
have
a
problem
with
third-party
candidates
running
and
in
this
town.
The
third
party
is
the
Republican
party.
They
have
I
know
they
have
to
be
able
to
be
feel
free
to
run
a
candidate
without
getting
burned
by
siphoning
votes
from
the
Democrats
and
having
somebody
else.
E
M
The
other
issue
this
is
what's
getting
this
attention
from
the
state
government
is
that
of
Precinct,
some
ability,
which
is
a
component
of
process,
transparency,
that
we
need
to
keep
elections
on
us
and
also
to
get
election
results
on
Election
night.
So
you
might
have
noticed
that
in
Alaska
they
didn't
have
a
results
until
15
days
after
the
election
Maine,
it
was
about
eight
days.
New,
York
City
was
about
seven
days
and
it's
not
because
computers
are
slow.
It's
because
you
for
hair
Irv.
M
You
have
to
get
all
of
the
ballot
data
individual
ballot
data
into
the
same,
centralized
computer
in
order
to
have
tabulation.
Now,
if
you
don't
do
that,
you'll
have
elections,
results
timely.
Also,
you
have
this
perception
of
opaqueness,
and
this
is
where
it
gets
scary.
You
might
remember
this
quote:
I'd
like
you
to
find
me:
11
780
votes.
Now
what?
If
this,
the
secretary
of
state
was
corrupt
and
they
went
twisted
their
little
mustaches,
we'll
find
some
votes
here,
we'll
find
some
votes
there.
M
They
would
not
match
up
with
the
city
the
certified
results
from
each
City
and
we
would
know
that
the
results
were
fudged
and
that
is
getting
the
attention
of
the
Secretary
of
State's
office.
That's
getting
attention
to
the
legislators,
so
I'm
just
going
to
end
with
this,
the
fact
that
you
with
you
removed
the
specific
method
from
the
charter
and
so
that
that
method
is
defined
at
the
ordinance
level
that
was
smart
and
rather
than
taking
on
the
house
government
operations
committee
because
they
removed
it
for
a
reason.
Thank.
N
N
I
think
it's
kind
of
wildly
inappropriate
to
kind
of
change.
The
rules
of
engagement
at
such
short
notice,
in
between
forums
here
I
had
prepared,
as
I
believe
others
have
a
little
more
substantive
comments
with
the
expectation
that
we
would
have
more
than
two
minutes
into
just
suddenly
change
that
it
just
it
creates
an
unlevel
playing
field.
N
But
despite
that,
I
just
simply
say
that
of
the
maps
that
were
offered
on
the
board
docs
for
your
consideration
tonight,
I
like
the
version
two
edit,
probably
the
best,
because
I
think
it
it
the
goal
of
unifying
the
king,
Maple,
neighborhood
I.
Think
many
of
you
got
the
paperwork
when
I
came
in
here.
The
reality
is
I
really
would
prefer
some
minor
tweaks,
as
one
counselor
put
it
last
week.
The
version
25
map
that
Robert
bursto
Johnson
had
put
together
I
think
does
a
better
job
of
unifying
King
Maple.
N
But
the
other
concern
that
I
had
is
that
I
believe
it's
in
the
city,
ordinance,
the
central
peddling,
District
or
the
central
business
district
is
westernmost.
Boundary
is
defined
as
South
Union
Street.
So
I
was
just
thinking
that
you
know.
For
that
reason,
maybe
extending
the
Border
over
to
South
Union
would
be
better
and
then
running
it
down
to
South
down
to
Maple
Street.
So
that's
what's
in
the
packet
again,
this
is
Mr
Bristow
Johnson's
work.
N
His
math
I
think
has
been
validated
in
nearly
every
occasion,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
could
have
a
more
substantive
consideration
tonight
and
not
get
hung
up
on
the
technicalities
of
whether
or
not
this
particular
map
has
been
drawn
by
the
the
city,
mapping
specialist,
but
long
and
short
of
it
is.
If
that's
not
something
the
council
is
willing
to
consider
as
an
incremental
change.
E
E
E
O
I
was
hoping
to
have
a
little
bit
more
time
than
the
two
minutes,
so
I'll
tailor
these
these
comments
down.
I'm,
going
to
start
with
redistricting
I
I
appreciate
the
work
that
everybody's
put
in
from
city
council,
including
the
ad
hoc
committee
members,
who
really
listened
I,
attended
quite
a
few
of
the
city's
redistricting
meetings
and
the
the
feedback
that
I've
heard
time
and
time
again
from
all
burlingtonians.
Was
we
don't
like
the
gerrymandered
look
of
Ward
8.
great?
You
guys
did
a
good
job.
O
It's
fixed
the
second
thing,
and
this
was
very
common.
We
can't
stand
the
district
model.
We
cannot
stand
the
district
model.
I
see
no
change
in
that.
The
third
thing
a
member
burlingtonians
were
saying
they
wanted
to
return
to
having
two
counselors
per
Ward
I.
Don't
see
that
full
reunification
of
the
maple
King
neighborhood
we're
getting
there
ultimately
with
one
minute,
left
I,
don't
like
the
map
that
you
put
forward
and
I'm
telling
the
members
of
the
city
to
please
vote
against
them.
O
O
This
experiment
is
fine.
I
I,
like
the
theory
of
how
it
can
work
well
in
our
award
elections.
I.
Don't
like
the
idea
of
a
centralized
vote
for
exactly
the
same
reasons
that
Mr
Robert
Bristow
Johnson
brought
up
two
things
I'd
like
to
highlight:
UVM
legislative
research.
Workshop
has
already
cited
that
with
ranked
Choice
voting
individuals
who
English
is
not
their
first
language.
If
they
have
a
GED
or
a
high
school
education,
they
are
much
less
likely
to
rank
votes.
That
being
said,
who's
this
going
to
really
be
benefiting.
O
If
voting
is
intimidating
or
confusing
people.
Ultimately
less
people
will
start
to
vote,
and
that
is
a
problem.
So,
on
top
of
that,
the
unit
the
centralization
of
the
vote
would
cause
people
to
lose
confidence
in
that,
and
that's
something
we
should
absolutely
be
avoiding
right
now:
I,
fully
support
making
voting
more
accessible
for
everybody,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
weighing
the
unattended
consequences
and
how
that
could
have
a
negative
outcome
on
what
our
total
unified
goals
are.
Thanks.
O
E
E
P
Great
thank
you,
president
Paul.
Hopefully
we
can
get
Jackie
corbally
promoted.
Who
will
give
the
bulk
of
this
presentation
I'll
start
off
with
a
couple
remarks?
I've
just
done
that?
Okay
great,
so
we
also
have
a
PowerPoint
which
Catherine
Catherine
will
bring
up,
but
basically
this
is
a
simple
PowerPoint.
The
first
page
is
just
a
a
timeline
and
then
the
second
page
shows
sort
of.
P
P
P
With
the
city
of
the
anticipated
costs
of
of
this
program,
the
state
has
also
been
quite
engaged
in
through
this
period
of
in
giving
input
on
program,
design
and
implementation
and
the
person
who's
really
heading
up
that
work
for
the
city
is
Jackie,
and
so
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Jackie
to
kind
of
share
where
we
go
from
here.
With
this
effort.
Q
Q
As
the
mayor
stated,
we
submitted
a
rather
vibrant
RFP
to
the
Department
of
Mental
Health
back
in
November
and
recently,
as
of
January
17,
found
out
that
we
were
awarded
that
money
to
move
forward,
which
I
need
to
say
is
incredibly
exciting.
I
think
the
Department
of
Mental
Health
is
excited
about
this
initiative
and
we
are
incredibly
excited
about
where
this
is
going
to
go.
Q
Q
Q
Speed
and
I
know
that
each
and
every
one
of
you
wanted
this
team,
this
crisis
team
up
and
running
months
ago,
but
I
feel
that,
given
that
we
have
finally
got
the
award
from
the
state,
there
is
a
lot
of
conversations
and
we
are
doing
a
fair
amount
of
dialoguing
with
the
Howard
Center
we're
doing
a
fair
amount
of
dialoguing
with
a
number
of
entities
that
are
going
to
be
part
of
this,
so
I
have
moved
now
to
the
third.
The
third
slide,
I
think
the
the
timeline
is
pretty
self-explanatory.
Q
Q
There
are
other
grants
that
Howard
has
gotten
awarded
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
when
this
medically
enhanced
crisis
team
is
deployed,
it's
meeting
the
needs
of
those
individuals.
It's
meant
to
serve,
so
we
are
in
the
process
right
now
coming
up
with
a
triage
to
ensure
that
that
is
that
that
happens
in
a
timely
manner.
We
also
are
working
on
developing
a
no
wrong
door
approach.
The
last
thing
any
of
us
want
is
for
a
consumer
to
call
a
phone
number
and
find
that
it's
the
wrong
number.
Q
We
are
really
sensitive
to
having
a
triage
that
meets
the
needs
of
the
individuals
that
this
is
meant
to
serve,
because
we
all
know
that
when
you're
in
a
crisis,
the
last
thing
you
want
is
to
wait,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
doing.
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
am
incredibly
proud
of
the
individuals
that
are
stepping
up.
Q
This
has
been
a
short
span
of
time.
I
know
it
seems
like
a
long
time
since
this
was
decided,
but
given
the
inflammation
implementation
of
the
irfp
to
where
we
are
now,
we
are
moving
at
light
speed
and
we
are
working
hard
and
long
to
get
this
out.
The
door
asks
AP.
So
that's
what
I
have
for
you
at
this
point.
The
goal
is
that
I
will
be
coming
back
to
continue
to
update
you,
but
this
is
where
we
are
now.
Q
So
to
summarize,
we
put
an
RFP
out
the
door.
We
were
awarded
the
RFP,
we're
getting
an
mou
and
a
contract
out
the
door,
we're
working
with
our
partners,
both
at
the
Howard
Center
and
the
hospital
and
other
Community
Players
we're
developing
a
no
wrong
door
approach
and
we're
developing
a
triage
approach.
That's
a
lot
of
work.
That
is
a
lot,
but
I
am
hopeful
that
we
are
going
to
get
this
out
the
door
ASAP.
P
President
Paul,
the
only
thing
I
just
added
from
my
conversations
with
Jackie
just
you
know,
obviously
there's
there's
seven
staff
members
that
are
envisioned
as
being
part
of
this
team
and
the
process
to
to
hire
all
them
up.
Could
you
know
could
be
lengthy.
One
of
the
things
being
evaluated
now
is:
is
there
a
way
to
using
existing
resources
existing
staff?
Is
there
any
way
that
that
timeline
can
be
short-circuited?
Because
of
you
know
the
desire
to
get
this
started
as
soon
as
possible?
P
E
R
Q
I
think
that,
obviously,
as
this
gets
more
to
the
finish
line-
and
it
gets
ready
to
be
put
out
into
the
community
before
that
happens-
absolutely
want
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
know
the
protocol
and
what
happens
from
the
minute.
You
pick
up
the
phone
and
how
do
you
end
up
being
deployed
which
team
gets
deployed?
How
did
we
come
to
that
decision?
What's
the
time
frame?
What
are
the
hours
that
this
team
will
be
operational?
S
Thank
you,
president
Paul,
and
thank
you
mayor,
Weinberger
and
Jackie
for
this
update.
It's
encouraging
to
hear
that
we
are
moving
more
quickly
now
than
we
have
been
in
a
number
of
months
to
to
get
this
crisis
response.
Team
operational,
I.
Think
it's
you
know.
We've
been
having
this
conversation
since,
before
it
was
in
the
state
of
the
city
address
and
I
know,
there
are
a
number
of
members
of
the
community,
myself
included,
who
are
very
eager
to
to
see
this
team
operational.
S
E
Seeing
none,
no
other
questions
or
comments
will
close
out
this
item
thanks
so
much
Jackie
for
being
here
and
to
the
mayor
for
this.
Sharing
this
good
news
with
us
we'll
look
forward
to
the
next
steps
in
the
hopefully
in
the
very
short
I
would
say
months
to
come,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
want
to
say
days
to
come
and
hopefully
soon
the
time
is
now
6
21,
which
means
we
are
way
ahead
of
time
for
the
public
forum
and
anything,
that's
a
deliberative
item.
E
P
What
was
different
about
this
year's
event?
We've
done
this
for
a
number
of
years
now,
and
there
has
been
a
huge
increase
in
the
adoption
of
cold
climate
heat
pumps
and
electric
vehicles.
In
the
time
the
BD
has
been
offering
these
incentives,
which
are
some
of
the
most
generous
local
incentives
anywhere
in
the
country.
P
You
know
there
will
be
incentives
offered
by
the
federal
government
for
a
significant
length
of
time.
It's
a
10-year
bill,
so
these
incentives
are
not
going
to
go
away,
but
there
are
new
rules
being
written
that
may
make
restrict
choices
and
make,
depending
on
what
car
burlingtonian
is
interested
in
buying.
There
may
be
less
generous
Federal
subsidies
available
some
months
down
the
road.
P
T
Thank
you,
president.
Paul
last
meeting
we
adopted
on
the
consent
agenda
agenda
unanimously.
The
funding
of
mass
transit
resolution
I
think
is
really
important.
That
resolution
was
sent
to
our
entire
delegation.
Both
House
and
Senate
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
speaker
kowinsky
this
past
week,
and
she
expressed
that
there
was
support
for
Transit
funding
in
the
house
and
that
they
were
going
to
to
be
working
on
this.
It's
my
experience
that
things
don't
happen
in
that
house
without
people
pushing.
T
It
is
why
we
passed
the
the
resolution
and
called
for
this
Council
and
our
Administration
to
be
active
in
that.
So
I
guess
that,
following
up
on
that
conversation
that
I
had
with
the
speaker
weapons
to
be
my
representative
I'm,
hoping
that
each
and
every
member
of
this
Council
will
reach
out
to
your
representatives
and
state
senators
and
I
also
hope
that
the
administration
will
follow
this
up.
I
know
that
that
is
part
of
that
funding
is
part
of
the
mayor's
Vermont
mayor's
agenda.
T
It
is
now
I
Believe
by
the
passage
of
that
resolution,
part
of
the
city's
legislative
agenda,
and
it
is
it's
critically
important.
There
are
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
competition.
All
you
have
to
do
is
listen
to
Vermont
Public
Radio,
as
opposed
to
maybe
Television
right
now
to
to
hear
the
the
competition
that's
out
there
for
funding.
Interestingly
enough,
the
funding
study
that
the
regional
Planning
Commission
did
has
funding
sources
that
are
not
being
discussed
in
the
media.
T
T
There
is
obviously
a
question
as
it
relates
to
the
governor's
commitment
to
raise
public
funds,
this
so-called
affordability
agenda,
that
sort
of
smacks
up
against
that,
which
is
why
we
really
need
to
have
good
caring
people
who
care
about
the
public
Fisk
and
about
the
affordability
of
our
residents
to
be
engaged
in
this
and
I
just
want
to
continue
to
double
down
on
my
advocacy
and
my
strong
request
that
the
administration
in
particular
take
the
lead
in
helping
us
do
this.
Thank
you.
E
U
Briefly,
president
Paul
I
was
excited
to
see
that
the
parking
reform
Network
released
a
list
of
a
number
of
communities
that
have
been
added
to
the
list:
Nationwide
of
cities
with
no
parking
mandates,
so
San
Jose,
California,
Anchorage,
Alaska,
Gainesville,
Florida,
Bend,
Oregon,
Corvallis,
Oregon,
Tigard,
Oregon
and
Burlington
Vermont
now
on
the
list
of
cities
with
no
parking
mandates,
the
parking
reform,
Network
parkingreform.org,
great
resource,
where
folks
can
see
information
on
200
plus
communities
around
the
country
that
have
taken
a
similar
move
and
was
excited
to
see
Burlington
highlighted
on
the
map.
Thank
you
thanks.
E
Very
much
seeing
no
other
counselors
in
the
queue
will
go
to
items
9
10,
11,
9,
10
and
11
at
the
end
of
our
agenda
and
then,
if
we
have
time
we'll
go
back
to
the
local
Control
Commission
meeting,
which
we
can
do
prior
to
the
public
forum.
So
that
leaves
us
with
item
number
eight,
which
is
committee
reports.
Are
there
counselors
who
wish
to
offer
a
committee
report
counselor
Barlow
to
be
followed
by
councilor,
Hightower,
McGee
and
Bergman?
No,
my
apologies.
Go
ahead.
Go
ahead!
Thank.
V
You,
president
Paul,
the
transportation,
energy
and
utilities
committee
will
be
meeting
tomorrow.
January,
24th
and
we'll
be
meeting
at
645,
Pine
Street
and
on
our
agenda
are
we're
getting
an
update
on
the
south
end
Transit,
oriented
development
and
multi-modal
Center
planning.
Excuse
me
we're
getting
an
update
from
CarShare
Vermont
on
their
operations
and
we'll
be
discussing
future
agenda
items
and
and
meeting
planning.
Thank
you.
S
Bpd
staff
have
been
working
very
hard
to
do
work
on
those
and
as
well
as
the
police.
Commission
staff
are
working
through
the
first
quarter
to
have
those
Department
directives,
those
amendments
to
the
police
commission
for
review,
not
just
by
the
commission,
but
for
review
and
comment
from
the
public
as
well
so
I.
S
T
Believe
it
or
not,
the
charter
change
Committee
just
met,
and
one
might
say
well
why,
since
we've
got
three
Charter
changes
on
there,
we're
done
with
the
deadlines
are
passed,
but
there
are
a
few
items
that
are
still
in
the
in
the
the
committee's
jurisdiction
and
review
and
we
are
going
to
be
so.
We
listed
them
and
we'll
start
some
some
research
and
have
some
substantive
discussion
in
our
next
meeting,
which
will
be
in
March
because,
after
all,
there's
no
rush.
T
Since
Charter
changes
are
generally
done
in
March,
the
the
first
is
counselor
compensation.
This
is
not
a
new
issue,
it's
an
issue
that
you
know
speaks
to
the
openness
and
availability
of
our
positions
here
to
to
a
wider
public.
It
is
part
of
the
Democracy
reforms
that
some
of
which
are
on
the
the
the
town
meeting
a
ballot
this
time,
and
so
there's
there's
a
bit
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
terms
of
the
research,
the
the
pays
that
are
out
there
in
in
Vermont
and
in
comparable
areas.
T
It's
an
idea
that
we
thought
about
bringing
in
conjunction
with
this
redistricting
I
think
that
we
were
smart
in
not
doing
it.
It's
complicated
and
confusing
enough
as
we
have
it
right
now,
but
that
is
still
on
our
item
and
in
our
committee
and
we're
looking
I
think
to
discuss
this
here
in
in
March,
so
that
you
can
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
we
can
get
feedback
and
the
last
one
is
a
relatively
new
item.
T
T
Many
years
ago,
the
npas
had
bigger
pots
of
money
that
they
dispensed,
and
that
was
participatory
budgeting,
and
there
are
many
municipalities
in
the
in
the
world
that
that
do
this
Puerto
Alegre
in
Brazil
was
probably
the
most
famous
example,
but
New
York
City
also
has
a
piece
of
it.
So
that
is
another
item
that
we
will
begin
the
the
process
of
discussing
and
that
will
obviously
need
to
have
fine
conversations
with
our
fine
CAO
about
this.
T
U
Thank
you,
councilor
Brandt's,
first
meeting
with
the
ordinance
committee
was
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Planning
Commission,
where
we
reviewed
proposed
amendments
to
our
inclusionary
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
greater
flexibility
around
bedroom
mix
and
the
size
of
of
excuse
me.
Affordable
housing
units,
the
Planning
Commission
I,
know,
is
taking
that
back
up
on
its
own
and
it's
meeting
tomorrow
and
then
the
ordinance
committee
and
Planning
Commission
will
be
having
at
least
one
or
two
additional
joint
meetings
for
the
purpose
of
our
reviewing
that
specific
issue.
S
E
Great,
thank
you
any
others,
seeing
none
that
will
bring
us
to
item
number
10,
which
is
council.
President
updates.
The
only
update
that
I
have
is
that
on
February
6th,
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
from
the
Howard
Outreach
team
to
inform
us
about
their
work
and
their
insight
into
our
community's
challenges
and
successes
on
the
street
so
more
to
come
on
that
not
sure
exactly
what
time,
but
that
will
hopefully
be
on
our
agenda
for
the
6th
of
February.
E
W
E
E
E
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Traver
seconded
by
commit
commissioner
Hightower
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
Seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
Please
say
no,
we
have
our
agenda
and
we
have
only
one
item
on
our
deliberative
agenda
that
is
item
2.01.
A
second
class
liquor
license
application
for
Campus
Kitchen,
273,
Colchester
Avenue,
commissioner
Travers.
E
Commissioner
Traverse
seconded
by
commissioner
Hightower
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
is
made
by
commissioner
Travers,
please
say
aye
all
right
any
opposed.
Please
say
no!
That
motion
passes
unanimously
and
with
no
other
business
on
the
agenda
and
seeing
no
objection
we'll
adjourn
the
local
Control
Commission
meeting
at
6
41.
E
Don't
think
that
there
is
don't
think
that
there
is
anything
more
that
we
can
do
until
public
forum,
which
will
start
at
7
30..
So
with
that
we
will
recess
the
oh.
Actually
we
we
adjourn
the
local
Control
Commission
meeting
we
will
now.
We
will
now
go
back
to
the
city
council
meeting
at
6
41
and
with
that
and
no
other
business
that
we
can
that
we
can
conduct.
Until
we
get
to
public
forum,
we
will
recess
the
council
meeting
until
7
30.
E
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E
E
The
yellow
light
will
shine
when
you
have
30
seconds
left
and
then
a
red
light
will
shine
when
your
time
is
up,
and
all
we
ask
is
that
you
try
to
wrap
up
your
comments
or
wrap
up
your
comments
when
the
light
and
the
sound
indicate
that
your
time
is
up
so
that
we
all
give
the
same
amount
of
time
to
everyone.
We
have
a
hybrid
system
for
public
forum.
So
if
you
wish
to
speak
in
person,
there
are
forms
that
look
like
this.
That
are
right
in
the
corner
of
the
room.
E
You
can
fill
one
out
and
then
give
it
to
the
clerk,
and
they
will
give
it
to
me
and
then
we'll
call
on
you
in
the
order
of
Burlington
residents
will
go
first
and
then
we
will
go
to
Burlington
residence
online.
If
you
wish
to
speak
via
Zoom,
you
can
do
so,
and
I
actually
need
to
get
on
Zoom.
You
need
you,
can
you
can
you
can
do
it
in
two
ways?
The
the
easiest
way
is
to
go
to
burlingtonvt.gov
forward,
slash
City
account,
console
forward,
slash
public
forum
and
a
form
will
come
up.
E
If
you
complete
the
form,
your
answers
will
come
into
a
spreadsheet.
That's
in
front
of
me
and
then
I'll
be
able
to
call
on
you.
If
you
aren't
able
to
access
the
form
and
just
want
to
use
the
raise
your
hand
raise
hand,
function,
I'll,
recognize
you
as
well.
So
the
way
we
do
this
is
Burlington.
Residents
in
contos
will
have
first
priority.
E
If
you
direct
your
comments
to
me
as
the
chair
and
not
to
anyone
else
at
this
table,
please
do
not
personalize
your
comments
and
there
are
a
number
of
people
we
actually
had
them
at
the
last
council
meeting,
a
number
of
people
who
actually
bring
their
children
and
watch
this
watch,
Council
meetings
with
their
kids
and
and
that's
part
of
their
civic
commitment
to
Civic
engagement
is
helpful.
If
you
keep
that
in
mind
and
use
respectful
language,
I
need
to
get
on
to
zoom,
so
that
I
can
be
able
to
call
on
people.
E
X
Thank
you
I'm
here
to
talk
I'm
here
to
comment
on
three
issues.
First,
off
quickly,
issue
6.12
of
rezoning,
I,
as
a
VM
student
I'm
sure
there
is
a
lot
of
pressure
on
you
guys
from
the
UVM
Administration
to
allow
this
rezoning
and
I
sincerely
hope
you
guys
don't
without
provide,
without
some
membrane
item
of
understanding
that
UVM
caps
enrollment,
because
otherwise
the
way
UVM
mystery
took.
Students
will
not
will
continue
and
do
overcrowding
and
no
problems
will
be
solved
in
the
long
run.
Second
off
I
want
to
talk.
X
Oh
sorry,
the
next
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
was
issue
3.01
and
with
the
mayor
on
the
with
the
mayor,
presiding
agenda
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
address
some
lies
that
were
being
spread
about
Lee
Morgan
there
are
lies
and
accusations
that
Lee
Morgan
is
some
sort
of
lead
organizer
for
the
community,
for
the
community
oversight
board
or
proposition
zero.
I
am
I,
am
an
organizer
for
Community
for
the
community
oversight
board
and
proposition
zero.
X
X
That's
Lee's
entire
capacity,
and
it's
kind
of
disgusting
that
there
are
lies
like
this
being
spread
by
certain
city
councilors
about
Lee
about
me,
Morgan,
it's
yeah,
I,
sincerely
hope
the
city
council
I
also
can
prove
this
I
sincerely
hope
the
city
council
repudiates
these
laws
and
not
and
appoints
them
to
the
board,
to
the
parks
and
rec
commission.
Thank
you.
So
much
have
a
great
day.
Thank.
Y
Y
You
see
here,
we
are
living
in
a
culture
where
our
children's
number
one
cause
of
death
is
bullets,
and
you
people
are
just
so
distracted
by
causing
another
war
in
another
country.
You
have
all
this
money
for
weapons,
but
no
money
for
the
children,
no
money
for
the
starving
homeless,
people
in
America,
but
you
got
all
this
money
to
blow
up
Russians
and
support
Nazis
in
another
country,
and
you
don't
even
want
to
have
the
conversation
after
the
disaster
of
the
last
20
years
of
Afghanistan
and
Iraq
and
Libya
about
how
insane
it
is.
Y
Y
So
where
is
that
taking
us-
and
you
guys
are
about
to
weaponize
all
these
things
and
call
it
progress
when
you
don't
have
any
solutions?
My
whole
life
I
have
seen
people
promising
Solutions,
while
at
the
same
time
working
against
them
and
our
children's
number
one
cause
of
death
is
bullets,
and
all
you
want
to
do
is
spread
more
weapons
around
the
world.
E
Z
Well,
we
the
wrong
that
was
made
50
years
ago.
Many
of
us
on
our
street
have
been
here
for
30
to
50
years.
We
are
a
very
we're
small
straight
we're
totally
surrounded
by
institutional
space.
That
is
not
residential
and
we
would
like
to
be
close
to
our
neighbors
on
Robinson
Parkway
in
and
in
Ward
six.
We
would
appreciate
your
consideration
that
we
become
part
of
a
neighborhood
that
is
more
like
our
neighborhood.
Z
E
H
Hi
good
evening,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
Council
rules,
and
the
item
was
public
forum.
It's
kind
of
ironic,
since
you
have
this
Hiatus
to
deal
with
the
public
forum,
but
and
I
understand,
really
the
the
need
to
balance
how
you
move
through
your
agenda
efficiently
and
get
your
job
done
and
also
accommodate
the
public
and
give
them
some
idea
when
they
will
be
able
to
address
the
council.
H
H
E
C
AA
You
can
hear
me
yes,
yes,
yes,
okay,
I'll
start
again,
my
name
is
Maddie
posic
and
I
live
in
Ward
8
on
Hungerford
Terrace
I've
been
anxiously
awaiting
for
redistricting
ever
since
Ward
8
was
created
10
years
ago.
As
a
result
of
the
information
gathered
by
the
ad
hoc
committee.
It
is
my
understanding
that
fixing
Ward
8
was
a
high
priority.
AA
Had
a
fairly
distribute
the
on-campus
student
population
was
also
a
high
priority.
The
map
that
the
city
council
adopted
in
December
most
fairly
distributes
the
on-campus
students
between
Wards
one
six
and
eight.
In
addition,
that
map
moved
several
blocks
of
long-term
residents
that
were
adjacent
toward
a
in
toward
eight.
These
moves
achieve
the
goal
of
creating
award
eight
that
was
more
fairly
balanced,
demographically.
AA
With
the
map
that
you
adopted
in
December,
no
Ward
had
more
than
50
percent
population
of
on-campus
students
with
the
introduction
of
the
maps
being
presented
tonight.
The
on-campus
student
population
in
Ward
8,
is
double
the
population
in
ward
1..
These
Maps
do
not
achieve
the
goal
of
creating
a
better
Ward
8..
Last
week
several
speakers
objected
to
the
adopted
map
stating
it
would
harm
Ward
1..
AA
These
new
maps
harm
Ward
8.,
a
war
that
has
faced
challenges,
it's
it
since,
since
its
Inception
10
years
ago,
I
really
don't
understand
how
moving
a
few
blocks
from
Ward
one
into
Ward
8
harms
Ward.
One
I
am
asking
you
to
not
repeat
the
mistake
tonight
that
was
made
10
years
ago
and
please
vote
for
the
map
that
you
already
approved.
It
is
the
fairest
compromise
for
all
eight
Wards
and
again,
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
on
this
difficult
process.
E
E
So
with
that,
we
will
close
the
public
forum
at
7
45..
We
have
already
completed
the
local
Control
Commission
and
we
have
one
other
meeting
before
we
get
to
that.
We
can
just.
We
can
move
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda.
So
this
is
item
number
six.
Is
there
a
motion
to
on
the
consent
agenda
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda
and
take
the
actions
actions
as
indicated
so.
S
E
A
E
Any
opposed,
please
say:
no,
we
have
our
consent
agenda
before
we
get
to
our
deliberative
agenda.
There
is
one
more
meeting
that
we
do
have
to
address
and
that
is
the
city
council
with
mayor
presiding.
The
mayor
presides,
interestingly
enough.
The
mayor
presides
over
the
city
council
with
mayor
presiding,
so
I
will
hand
the
floor
to
Mayor
Weinberger
and
we
will
re
We,
Will
We
Will
recess
the
council
meeting
at
7
46
to
do
so.
P
P
A
A
A
B
A
A
P
E
P
B
P
B
P
P
AD
My
name
is
Lee
Morgan
I
am
in
Ward
7
and
I
wanted
to
come
tonight
to
address
some
concerns
that
it
has
come
to
my
attention
that
were
raised
and
I'm
gonna
be
upfront.
I'm
going
to
be
emotional
y'all
are
gonna,
get
to
see
me
cry,
because
a
lot
of
these
concerns
have
hurt
me
deeply,
but
I
respect
you
all
enough
to.
If
there's
a
concern
I
would
like
to
address
it.
Okay,
let
me
see
my
notes
so
I
think
one.
AD
I
feel
like
I,
have
a
really
good
track
record
in
Burlington
for
collaboration
during
one
of
my
most
passionate
times
in
the
city
council,
which
I
will
come
back
to
I
reached
out
to
the
mayor
in
collaboration
in
an
effort
to
reach
peaceful
resolution
with
Sears
Lane
at
the
11th.
Hour
I
stayed
here
till
like
a
1
30
meeting
and
had
a
word
with
the
mayor
in
an
effort
of
Reaching
Across,
the
aisle
that
has
come
at
a
personal
cost.
AD
AD
So
you
know
I
think
a
a
very
valid
concern
is
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
a
year
and
a
half
ago
is
over
a
year
ago,
I
had
an
outburst
at
a
meeting
during
a
very
passionate
vote
about
Sears
Lane
I
think
that
anyone
who
has
a
concern
about
my
ability
to
work
with
others
over
that
I
think
that's
valid
and
I.
Don't
really
wanna
I'm,
not
gonna
like
justify
it.
AD
Given
the
chance
I
would
handle
that
differently.
I
will
point
out
that
I've
kind
of
taken
that
you
know
I
I've
kind
of
joked,
with
with
some
counselors
I've,
discussed
that
that
thing
that
I've
at
the
very
least
I've
now
set
myself
a
very
public
Benchmark
for
the
type
of
like
conduct.
I,
don't
want
to
go
back
to
and
I've
stuck
to
that.
You
know
in
my
life
I've
I've
found
that
the
best
way
to
make
amends
is
to
not
do
something
again
and
I.
Haven't
that
and
I
I.
AD
Don't
think
I've
had
an
outburst
like
that
even
before
that
time,
but
that
was
a
one-time
thing
for
me
and
since
then
I've
I've
not
done
that
I've
made
some
very
conscious
changes
to
how
I
carry
myself
in
meetings
and
outside
of
meetings
and
I'm.
You
know
really
proud
of
myself
for
that,
but
yeah.
That
is
a
valid
concern
for
sure.
AD
AD
I'm
really
only
addressing
it
because
I
don't
understand
how
that
was
constructed
and
I
I
guess
I
would
ask
you
folks,
whoever,
like
communicated
that
to
you
I
mean.
Was
that
just
a
mistake
was
that
an
intentional
misinformation,
I
guess
I
would
just
ask
you
to
examine
that,
because
I
don't
understand
how
that
could
have
come
about.
AD
P
AD
There's
been
so
many
concerns
brought
to
me,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
address
them,
but
yeah.
That's
not
my
agenda
as
someone
who's
camped
on
public
lands.
I
wouldn't
advocate
for
that.
For
somebody
I
think
to
me
the
most
disturbing
one
was
a
concern
about
a
criminal
charge.
I
have
where
I
was
working
on
a
documentary
investigating
The
Disappearance
of
a
black
vermoner
and
the
lack
of
an
investigation
as
part
of
that
I
was
targeted
in
an
abusive
Power
by
a
police
department
and
a
state's
attorney
I
was
exonerated.
AD
AD
The
timing
of
this
was
so
frustrating
for
me,
because
I'm
currently
working
on
mediating
an
issue
in
collaboration
across
party
lines
to
diffuse
a
conflict
before
it
escalates
and
while
I
was
getting
calls
about
concerns
that
were
being
raised.
I
am
putting
in
a
lot
of
effort
to
de-escalate
a
situation
across
party
lines
which
some
of
you
know
because
you're
helping
to
advise
me
in
it.
AD
So
the
irony
for
me
is
very
difficult,
but
and
I'm
I'm
sad
that
I
didn't
get
more
time
to
talk
to
you
about
parks
that
I'm,
very
passionate
I
have
a
lot
of
professional
experience
and
stewardship.
I
have
a
lot
of
passion
for
parks
and
I
would
be
more
than
honored
to
serve
Burlington
in
a
spirit
of
community
and
collaboration,
even
with
people
who
may
be
under
a
misunderstanding,
I'm
totally
happy
to
move
forward
and
put
this
behind
us.
AD
D
P
W
P
Thank
you,
Joel.
Are
there
any
other
nominees
who
are
here
and
would
like
to
speak
to
the
city
council,
mayor,
presiding
I'm,
not
seeing
I
think
Catherine's
checking
to
make
sure
none
of
them
are
online
and
we
don't
think
so
so
now,
let's
to
go
through
the
process,
so
I
think
typically,
we've
done
the
vote
in
the
order
that
people
are
nominated,
there
will
be
councilor.
Freeman
is
voting
remotely
I
believe.
Can
you
confirm
that
counselor
Freeman
and
turn
on
your
camera.
AA
AE
AF
P
AE
P
P
Please
don't
feel
obliged
to
keep
it
on
councilor
Freeman,
so
the
we
have
I
think
12.
Counselors
voting
is
that
right,
one
two.
With
the
same
with
the
mayor,
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six,
seven,
eight
nine
ten,
eleven
twelve!
So
as
soon
as
someone
gets
to
seven
votes,
we
will
have
a
nominee
so
we'll
we
will
have
votes
in
the
order
of
the
nominations.
So
the
first
vote.
Please
raise
your
hand
if
you
are
supporting
Lee
Morgan.
P
Okay,
one
two
three
four:
five:
six
seven
and
the
that
is
a
majority
of
the
body.
Congratulations!
Lee!
Thank
you
for
your
interest
and
good
luck
with
your
service
on
the
on
the
parks,
commission
and
I
do
want
to
thank
Joel
and
the
numerous
other
people
who
voted.
This
is
one
of
the
more
competitive
seats
we've
had
in
some
time
and
I
would
encourage
people
who
are
not
successful
this
time
to
consider
applying
again,
we
frequently
many
of
our
long-standing
and
much
appreciated.
E
E
We
do
we
have
posted
time
limits
for
each
item
and
which
we
agree
to
by
approving
our
agenda
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
keep
to
those
limits.
The
first
item
is
item
7.01,
which
is
an
update
on
redistricting
Maps
per
city
council
action
on
January
17th
last
week,
and
just
to
recap
for
our
community
members
who
may
have
missed
the
first
public
hearing
at
the
public
hearing
last
week.
The
council
did
make
two
requests
of
the
independent
mapping
specialist.
E
The
first
was
to
review
and
analyze
the
map
that
was
known
as
eight
Wards
v27,
and
a
second
request
was
to
come
up
with
a
map
that
joined
the
maple
King
neighborhood
into
one
Ward
Incorporated
Brooks
Avenue
on
both
sides
of
the
street
into
Ward.
One
director
Megan
Tuttle,
is
here.
She
and
Sarah
Morgan
worked
on
the
maps
the
population
totals,
and
there
is
a
memo.
That's
posted
to
board.
Docs
all
were
done
on
Friday
evening
and
for
this
item
I'll
go
to
director
Tuttle.
E
AG
You're
welcome.
Thank
you,
so
I
think
that
I
hope
that
the
memo
helped
summarize
the
three
different
maps
that
you
have
available
to
you
in
your
packet.
In
response
to
your
emotions
from
last
week,
I'm
happy
to
put
them
up
on
the
screen
if
it
would
be
helpful
but
wanted
to
just
start
with
an
acknowledgment
I
think
for
those
of
you
that
know
me
know
that
I'm,
usually
very
intentional
and
careful
with
my
words
and
the
memo
that
was
posted
on
Friday
night,
left
a
little
bit
to
be
desired.
AG
AG
The
piece
of
information
for
our
purposes
in
order
to
complete
this
work
for
you
that
was
missing
from
that
that
work
that
had
been
completed
by
members
of
the
public
and
and
from
your
vote,
was
an
indication
on
how
you
preferred
the
wards
to
be
paired
in
that
map.
So
I
did
want
to
speak
to
that,
just
briefly
to
share
information
about
kind
of
our
process
and
some
of
the
considerations
we
made
in
preparing
that
aspect
of
this
work.
For
you.
AG
The
first
is
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
boring
stuff
about
the
kind
of
technical
details
of
how
we
put
this
together.
We
haven't
talked
about
this
a
whole
lot
in
the
process
of
preparing
these
Maps,
but
in
addition
to
ensuring
that
the
individual
Wards
meet
the
overall
10
deviation,
we
also
just
need
to
confirm
that
the
districts
do
as
well.
AG
This
may
seem
like
a
really
silly
Nuance,
but
the
way
that
our
Charter
language
is
written
is
that
it
actually
describes
the
outer
boundaries
of
a
district
and
then
describes
how
that's
divided
into
two
Wards,
instead
of
describing
the
outer
boundary
of
every
Ward
and
then
pairing
them.
So
that
sounds
really
nuancy,
but
essentially
that
means
that
it
has
big
implications
for
how
we
actually
write
the
charter
language
for
your
consideration.
AG
So
that
brought
us
to
then
how
we
approached
that
work.
I
think,
as
you
all
know,
from
looking
at
this
map
that
v27's
proposed
approach
to
Ward
8
is
very
different
from
our
current
Ward
8..
It's
made
up
of
portions
of
words,
one
three
five
six
and
eight
to
comprise
that
proposed
eight,
and
so
it
therefore
affects
portions
of
the
East,
Central
and
South
districts.
AG
AG
We
weren't
sure
the
intent
of
the
pairing
of
the
wards
into
districts
wasn't
clear
to
us
just
from
a
geographic
perspective,
so
we
had
to
look
at
some
of
the
other
factors
that
you
all
have
talked
about
through
this
process.
Things
like
maintaining
respect
for
historic
neighborhood
boundaries,
considering
impact
on
certain
communities
of
Interest
Etc.
AG
If
we
paired
that
Ward
with
Ward
one.
This
meant
that
the
king
Maple
neighborhood
would
be
part
of
a
district
that
spanned
all
the
way
from
Bob
and
Mill
to
the
Winooski
Bridge.
It
would
be
a
very
big
District
and
we
were
not
sure
if
that
was
the
intent
of
the
council
for
the
outcome
of
that
neighborhood's
pairing
by
by
recommending
pairing,
Wards
three
and
eight
together.
AG
AG
If
we
pay
Awards
One
and
eight
together
that
moves
the
downtown
into
the
East
District,
where,
if
we
pair
Wards
three
and
eight
together,
it
maintains
the
downtown
and
the
Western
Old
North
End,
together
in
a
central
district.
The
way
that
it
does
today
I
think
there
was
a
question
or
a
concern
that
was
raised
about
just
the
recommendation
to
pair
Wards
one
and
two
as
the
East
District
as
impacting
the
eastern
part
of
the
old
North
End,
which
it
does
again
when
we
think
about
trade-offs.
AG
This
is
one
of
those
areas,
but
we
also
know
that,
because
of
the
shape
of
ward
3
in
this
proposed
map,
it
does
ward
3
does
include
more
of
the
western
portion
of
the
old
North
End
than
ward
3.
Does
today,
just
one
final
thing,
then
or
I
guess
to
the
other
piece,
was
just
not
a
lot
of
certainty
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
cross
issues
of
Ward,
8
being
long
and
narrow
east
to
west
and
Ward
2
being
long
and
narrow
north
to
south
in
this
proposed
map.
AG
AG
But
we
do
also
acknowledge
that
either
way
you
pair
Ward
2,
with
either
of
its
neighboring
Wards
results
in
an
area
of
the
city
that
has
more
off-campus
student
population,
which
I
know
is
something
that
many
people
in
that
area
were
interested
in
and
then
the
final
piece
was
just
thinking
about
the
issue
of
the
campus
on-campus
population.
So
this
has
been
a
major
area
of
focus
in
terms
of
your
map.
AG
Making
we've
typically
talked
about
this
at
the
ward
level,
but
in
v27
it
did
open
up
some
questions
about
how
you
wanted
to
approach
the
war,
the
campus
population,
at
the
district
level,
if
you
maintained
a
pairing
of
words,
one
and
eight,
you
could
largely
maintain
most
of
the
campus
population
in
the
East
District
as
it
is
today.
But
we
do
have
the
issues
on
the
western
side
of
the
city
that
we
need
to
consider
if
we
pair
Wards
one
and
two
and
then
words
three
and
eight.
AG
So
those
are
some
of
our
considerations,
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
either
the
combination
of
Ward
one
and
two
or
Ward
one
and
eight
works
from
a
deviation
perspective
and
I
apologize
I
think
there
was
some
wording
in
the
memo
that
suggested
otherwise
that
wasn't
the
intent
as
far
as
Maps,
V1
and
V2.
Then
these
were
responsive
to
the
other
requests
to
make
minor
modifications
to
your
December
map
in
order
to
address
King,
Maple
and
Brooks
Avenue.
AG
In
both
of
these
Maps,
we
took
a
similar
approach
to
v27,
in
that
we
maintained
the
boundary
between
Ward,
1
and
2
along
Willard
Street.
All
the
way
from
Riverside
to
Pearl,
where
our
map
differs,
is
that
instead
of
moving
Harris
Millis
into
word
six,
we
moved
Harris
Millis
into
Ward,
one
to
offset
the
population
change
around
Brooks,
Ave
and
again.
The
approach
here
was
TR
to
try
to
make
as
few
changes
as
possible
to
the
maps
that
you
had
previously
approved
in
terms
of
how
to
address
the
king
Maple
neighborhood.
AG
The
first
approach,
then
that
we
took,
was
to
largely
move
the
boundary
back
to
where
it
is
today.
The
boundary
between
ward
3
and
Ward
5
currently
runs
along
King
Street
up
to
Saint
Paul
Street.
So
this
map
simply
makes
that
change
to
bring
that
boundary
back
the
second
option,
because
I
think
we
understood
there
may
have
been
a
greater
interest
in
helping
the
Bob
and
Mill
neighborhood
become
part
of
the
downtown
Ward.
AG
This
takes
a
different
approach
in
that
it
moves
Bob
and
Mill,
and
everything
North
into
the
downtown
Ward
and
addresses
the
the
population
deviation
by
moving
a
block
each
into
Ward
five
and
toward
six
so
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
might
have
about
those.
But
you
do
have
Charter
language
to
correspond
with
each
of
these
three
Maps.
If
you're
interested
in
considering
any
of
them.
T
Well,
I
first
I
want
to
thank
Megan
for
the
work.
It's
not
an
easy
job
and
it
was
a
last
minute.
Job
I
want
to
thank
you
for
correcting
the
error
in
in
in
drafting
that
your
memo
that
stated
that
the
deviations
were
a
reason
for
one
and
one
two
to
be
joined,
I'm
glad,
because
that
removes
that
as
an
aspect
and
puts
it
back
where
it
belongs,
which
is
a
political
conversation
here,
as
opposed
to
a
pseudo-legal
conversation.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
let
me
just
turn.
T
If
ever
there
was
a
reason
why
the
districts
don't
work.
For
me,
it
was
that
conversation
that
we
just
had
related
to
the
pairing
of
them
and
we
did
get
public
comment
tonight
about
the
districts
not
being
something
that
is
wanted.
So
it
is
still
in
my
mind,
even
though
I
don't
know
that
I
have
the
votes,
something
that
is
a
live
political
question,
because
I
I
think
that
the
conversation
that
we
had
raises
another
problem
with
that.
T
But
let
me
just
say
that
the
the
the
ward,
the
the
the
the
27
map
is
one
that
is
closest
to
an
historic
breakdown
of
the
old
North
End.
None
of
you
were
around
when
I
represented
or
two
in
1986
and
not
on
this
Council.
Lots
of
you
were
around.
None
of
you
were
here
in
this
room
when
that
happened
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I
represented
award
that
went
from
my
part
of
the
this.
T
T
The
severing
of
that
connection
to
me
smacks
of
gerrymandering,
I,
I,
think
it's
outrageous
and
and
therefore
fundamentally
wrong.
So
I'm
happy
to
have
heard
director
title
say
that
you
know
their
reasons
to
match.
You
know
different
Wards
together
here
the
and
so
it
becomes
back
to
us
as
a
as
a
political
process.
I
want
the
old
North
End
to
have
the
Integrity
that
we
said.
I
want
the
historic
nature
of
Ward
2
to
be
kept
intact.
T
T
It's
true
that
it's
about
twice
the
number
of
on-campus
students
as
Ward
one
Ward
one
carries
lots
of
off-campus
students.
Anybody
who
knows
that
who
just
ran
for
for
election
knows
that
and
the
bringing
in
of
the
Buell
Street
area
into
Ward
2
makes
that
adjustment
in
terms
of
off-campus
students
somewhat
mitigated
so
I.
Personally,
am
in
favor
of
the
the
new
map
if
the
district's
are
done
right.
T
T
If,
if
you
decide
to
do
that,
but
if
you
don't,
then
the
the
ward,
the
the
27
map
is
my
favorite
one
or
the
one
that
I
favor,
the
quick
The
Tweak
Maps
I,
think
do
are
improvement
over
the
existing
ones.
But
I
would
hope
that
we
would
move
to
the
the
version
27
with
the
awards.
Two
and
three
District.
If
we
maintain
the
districts
and
thank
you
for
your
Indulgence.
E
AC
You,
president,
Paul
now
I
have
so
many
more
questions
in
my
head.
I
just
had
like
one
simple
question:
when
I
raised
my
hand,
which
is
for
director
Tuttle
and
one
of
the
last
things
you
said,
was
explaining
the
changes
that
you
made
in
the
king
Maple
area
and
you
referenced
moving
a
block,
one
block
in
Ward
five
and
one
block
in
Ward
six,
and
if
you
can
clarify
which
map
you
were
talking
about
and
which
blocks
you
were
talking
about
moving,
because
it's
been
a
little
bit
hard
to
follow
this.
AC
This
version
we
don't
have
the
overlays
and
so
I'm,
looking
at
them
side
by
side,
I
think
I,
mostly
no
and
the
other
thing
we,
we
don't
have
a
reference
here
as
to
the
status
quo.
I
have
the
one
we
adopted
the
two
that
you
tweaked
and
made
some
changes
in
that
area.
So
if
you
could
just
clarify
the
five
six
and
three
sure.
AG
AG
AG
The
version
2
takes
the
opposite
approach
here,
which
is
to
move
these
two
blocks
back
into
Ward
five
and
this
area
in
toward
three
and
the
one
block
that
I
mentioned.
Moving
into
word.
Six
is
right
here.
This
is
between
church,
when
you
ski
King
and
Maple.
So
that's
the
difference
between
those
two
maps.
AC
AC
If
but
you
don't
like
the
map
with
the
pairings
one
two
and
three
eight
and
as
far
as
the
other
Maps
I'm,
assuming
that
well
I
could
find
out
by
going
into
the
depths
of
the
meats
and
Bounds
Charter
change
language
but
I
think
in
the
others.
The
pairings
all
stayed
the
same,
and
so
you
don't
object
to
the
pairing.
Staying
the
same,
you
object
to
changing
those
pairings
in
v27.
If
that's
that's
my
understanding,
so
if
you
can
clear.
T
I'd
be
happy
to
to
clarify
I
think
taking
number
three
first,
that
is
correct.
I
do
not
object
to
the
continued
pairing
of
two
and
three
and
one
and
eight
in
the
version
that
we
adopted
in
December.
That's
what
we
have
currently
I
had
that
confirmed
in
the
reading
of
the
meats
and
Bounds
and
I'm
gonna
assume
that
that
was
correct.
My
good
friend,
councilor
butcher,
read
that
to
me
and
I
I'm,
convinced
that
that
is
correct
and
I
see
nods.
T
T
But
my
intention
will
be
to
have
that
placed
before
us
for
our
voting
consideration
to
replace
the
the
current
map
and
with
regard
to
the
the
tweaks
that
you
know
bring
back
fully.
Brooks,
Avenue
and
I.
Think
both
sides
is
a
king
or
is
it
Maple
whatever
that
joining
is
I'm
I'm
fully
in
favor
of
that,
you
guys
have
heard
me
talk
about
not
wanting
to
break
up
streets
and
us
having
the
legal
ability
to
do
that.
T
AC
It
made
sense
to
me
to
pair
them,
as
suggested
with
the
one
two
and
the
three
eight
I,
that
looked
like
the
more
natural
pairing
to
me
because
of
of
what
she
said
with
regards
to
just
how
the
connections
are
made.
What
you're,
surrounded
by
I
will
say
that
the
historic
boundaries
of
these
Wards
are
are
not
important
to
me.
I
think
that
our
task
is
changing
those
boundaries
and
there
are
people
who
will
not
like
when
they
get
moved
into
one
Warden
out
of
another
and
that's
the
unfortunate
nature
of
our
job.
AC
Ward
and
I.
Guess
I'm,
going
to
listen
to
the
discussion.
I
think
that
there's
an
improvement
with
the
V1
and
V2
Maps
as
far
as
not
dividing
Brooks
Ave,
which
to
me
is
the
most
egregious
kind
of
division
on
a
neighborhood
street.
That's
a
very
small
neighborhood
street
and
it
is
and
has
in
every
way
the
sense
of
a
neighborhood.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
has
bothered
me
most
about
the
map
that
we
approved
between
the
V1
and
V2
Maps.
AC
My
preference
would
be
the
V2
map
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
For
now
and
listen
to
what
others
have
to
say,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
weighing
here
is
really
what
other
people
think
I
don't
want
us
to
reach
a
draw
tonight
and
not
not
get
anywhere
so
I'll.
Listen
to
what
others
have
to
say.
Thank.
E
You
counselor
Shannon
before
we
go
to
counselor
Hightower
I
just
wanted
to
alert
the
council.
You
can
check
your
email.
There
is
I
had
asked
attorney
Sturdivant
and
whether
or
not
she
could
give
me
motion
language
in
advance.
Should
there
be
a
desire
to
change
from
the
approved
map
to
another
map
and
so
you'll
see
in
your
email.
There
is
a
motion.
It
just
simply
says
the
XYZ
map
you
can
fill
that
in.
If
there
are
other
changes
other
than
this
that
relate
to
District
boundaries,
then
we'll
have
to
work
through
that
language.
E
That's
not
in
this
motion,
but
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
and
and
in
fact
yes,
the
pairing
does
have
to
happen
just
also
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
This
is
the
last
possible
council
meeting
that
we
can
vote
on
this
anything
further
than
this
would
necessitate
a
special
meeting
next
week.
Ballots
must
be
delivered.
The
wording
of
the
ballots
must
be
delivered
by
February
1st.
So
this
is
our
last
meeting
to
be
making
this
decision.
AH
My
comments
will
be
more
Global,
maybe
than
some
of
the
others,
which
is
to
say
well.
First
of
all,
I
just
have
to
also
say
thank
you
to
Megan,
Tuttle
I,
know
I'm,
biased,
because
I
was
on
the
drb
and
then
when
I
joined,
Council
immediately
went
to
ordinance,
but
how
lucky
we
are
to
have
you,
as
a
director
I
think,
is
just
extremely
evident
in
every
dealing
with
you
and
so
just
a
huge.
Thank
you
both
to
this
and
to
all
of
the
work
you
do
and
then
I
have
to
say.
AH
I
was
pretty
discouraged
with
the
original
map
that
we
voted
on.
I
think
it's
just
a
blow
to
the
Democratic
process
when
we
set
out
with
certain
goals,
and
then
we
put
out
something
that
as
I
think
I
don't
know
if
it's
Chris
or
rbj,
who
pointed
it
out,
but
that
meets
none
of
the
goals
that
we
set
out
and
so
I'm
happy
to
see
three
maps
that
I
at
least
wouldn't
ardently
fight
against
in
terms
of
at
least
accomplishing
some
of
the
goals
that
we
set
out
to
what
council
Bergman
said.
AH
AH
We
end
up
with
one
of
these
three
maps
in
particular,
and
maybe
maybe
I
will
leave
it
at
that
as
the
I,
don't
as
somebody
who,
for
a
long
time
was
Ward
one
and
Ward
8
used
to
NPA
together,
so
I
feel,
like
I,
have
some
Affinity
toward
eight.
Although
I
know
they
didn't
necessarily
agree
with
me
on
the
mapping
over
the
last
a
couple
of
weeks,
I
know
that
Ward
one
and
Ward
8
together,
wouldn't
be
the
East
District
anymore.
It'd,
be
more
of
a
combination
of
East
district
and
downtown
I.
AH
E
V
Thank
you,
president
Paul
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
I
said
at
the
when
we
were
discussing
this
at
the
last
public
hearing,
I'm
extremely
uncomfortable,
making
significant
changes
to
the
maps.
After
all,
the
public
process
we
had
put
into
arriving
at
the
approved
map
and
I
guess.
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
I
don't
agree
with
the
characterization
that
we
didn't
hit
all
of
the
any
of
the
objectives.
I
do
think.
We've
significantly
changed
the
character
of
Ward
8.
V
It
no
longer
has
70
some
odd
percent
student
on-campus
students
and
in
the
approved
map,
we've
added
a
significant
number
of
stable,
longer-term
residents,
so
I
think
we
actually
did
achieve
in
some
ways.
The
objective
of
improving
Ward,
8
and
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that,
because
many
and
you
know
in
public
and
even
on
this
Council
have
stated
that
we
didn't
hit
any
of
the
objectives
and
I
just
don't
see
it.
V
That
way,
my
preference
would
be
to
stick
with
the
approved
map
and
to
make
some
weeks
around
the
king,
Maple
neighborhood,
but
I
realized
that
that
probably
doesn't
have
support
here
tonight.
But
I'll
just
say
it
out
loud
in
case
I
can
get
any
traction
with
that.
That
would
be
my
preference.
So
thank
you.
E
U
Thanks
president
Paul
I
just
want
to
say,
I
I
agree
with
and
Echo
the
comments
that
councilor
Barlow
Council,
Barlow
and
I,
along
with
counselors
Hightower
and
McGee,
served
on
on
the
working
group
here
and
spent
a
really
significant
amount
of
time.
Looking
at
various
Maps
partnering
with
director,
Tuttle
and
Nancy,
Stetson
and
I
want
to
Echo
councilor
hightower's
points
as
well.
U
We've
said
Thank
you
many
times
over,
but
can't
say
thank
you
enough
for
your
office's
work
on
these
Maps
and
while
I
deeply
respect
the
the
comments
and
my
colleagues
and
councilor
Hightower
and
in
Council
Bergman,
I
I
agree
with
Council
Barlow
I,
don't
think
we're
missing
the
mark
on
the
original
map.
The
map
that
the
council
previously
approved,
we've
heard
some
public
comments
about
the
goals
that
were
laid
out
by
the
ad
hoc
redistricting
committee.
U
But
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
written
report
of
that
ad
hoc
redistricting
committee,
they
identified
three
themes:
theme
one
Ward,
a
is
not
working
in
its
current
configuration
theme
to
residents
are
not
in
favor
of
the
district
system.
Three,
the
ward
configuration
must
preserve
neighborhoods,
keyboards
Compact
and
provide
equal
representation.
U
The
we've
heard
some
discussion
about
the
maple,
King,
neighborhood
and
so
on
and
I
am
a
proponent
of
keeping
that
neighborhood
all
together.
But
but
it
is
not
I
should
point
out
one
of
the
themes
that
was
identified
by
the
ad
hoc
redistricting
group.
The
main
theme
that
was
addressed
by
that
group
theme
one
was
addressing
the
ward
8
configuration
and
I
certainly
take
exception
to
using
the
word
gerrymander
to
refer
to
the
map
that
was
approved
by
this
Council
I
mean
speaking
very
frankly
here
during
this
redistricting
process.
U
You
know
two
of
our
Progressive
colleagues
left
this
Council
and
if
we
wanted
to
gerrymander
a
map
to
favor
one
political
party
over
the
other,
we
had
every
opportunity
to
do
so.
But
we
have
not
done
that.
We've
continued
to
work
hard
with
our
Progressive
colleagues
work
hard
with
our
independent
colleagues.
We've
continued
to
meet
with
Neighbors
in
Wards,
one
in
Wards,
eight
and
Ward
6
and
across
the
city
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
map
that
best
addresses
concerns
that
best
addresses
again.
U
That
theme,
one
that
was
addressed,
which
is
the
ward
8
configuration
to
me.
That's
still
the
original
map
I
completely
respect
why
the
residents
of
of
Ward
one
and
and
the
folks
that
represent
Ward
one,
don't
love
the
map
that
they
came
up
with
I
I
completely
get
that
if
I
represented
Ward
one
I'd
probably
feel
the
same
way.
AC
Thank
you,
president
Paul,
as
I
was
trying
to
hold
the
questions
in
my
head.
I
realized
I
forgot
the
most
important
thing
that
I
did
want
to
say,
which
was
a
huge
thank
you
to
you,
director
Tuttle,
we
I
don't
know
if
we
could
put
more
pressure
on
on
you
and
your
colleagues
throughout
this
entire
process.
AC
I
appreciate
your
patience,
your
diligence,
your
thoroughness,
and
that
you
somehow
got
this
completely
unreasonable
request
done
and
I'm
really
sorry
to
do
that
to
you
at
the
same
time,
I
think
it's
out.
It
is
our
duty.
This
is
a
really
important
decision
for
us
and
as
badly
as
I
felt,
making
that
ask
of
our
city
staff.
I,
just
really
felt
that
this
is
critically
important
to
get
as
right
as
we
can
councilor
Barlow
just
made
mention
of
not
supporting
any
major
changes,
but
supporting
tweaks
to
the
king,
Maple,
neighborhood
and
I.
AC
Think
that
that's
largely
what
has
been
offered
in
particularly
V2
and
so
I
was
interested
to
hear
what
councilor
Barlow's,
if
that's
councilor,
Barlow's
interpretation
of
those
Maps,
because
I
don't
think
we
can
make
any
new
tweaks.
So,
if
he's
in
favor
of
that
I'd
I'd
like
to
have
a
little
Clarity
on
exactly
what
that
means,
because
I
think
we're
all
on
the
Assumption.
We
are
not
going
back
and
asking
for
more
maps,
I'm,
really
hoping
that
that
is.
That
is
one
thing
we
can
reach
consensus
on
here
right
off
the
bat.
AC
Secondly,
I
think
it
would
be
my
preference
rather
than
going
forward
with
the
map
I
want.
If
we
could
go
forward
with
eliminating
Maps
would
kind
of
be
my
preference
I,
don't
think
that's
where
councilor
Bergman
was
going
so
I'm
offering
that
as
a
thought
for
you
to
consider,
because
I
I
am
not
sure,
necessarily
ready
to
vote,
yay
or
nay
on
a
specific
map.
AC
U
U
D
E
AI
E
AI
T
T
E
E
S
Thank
you,
president
Paul
I
am
supportive
of
this
map.
I
think
it
accomplishes
many
of
the
goals
that
not
just
the
ad
hoc
committee
had,
but
the
goals
that
we've
heard
from
the
public
time
and
again
through
various
MPA
conversations
and
discussions
I've
had
with
constituents
I
have
heard
over
and
over
that.
This
map
is
preferable
and.
S
E
AG
Don't
know
if
attorney
Sturdivant
could
help
me
I
know
one
part
of
the
work
that
that
our
office
was
doing
in
preparation
for
tonight's
meeting
was
making
sure
that
you
actually
had
resolution
language
that
supported
a
map
that
you
may
ultimately
vote
on
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
with
appropriate
technical
Corrections
would
be
the
language
we
need
to
make
the
switch
in
the
ward
pairing,
because
the
language
you
have
for
v27
is
describing
the
recommendation
that
we
had
offered.
So
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
E
V
T
AJ
R
AA
AH
S
AC
U
E
E
AH
I
will
make
the
move
to
amend
and
place
on
the
ballot.
The
city
council's
Charter
change
proposal
regarding
Ward
boundaries,
as
approved
on
December
12
2022,
to
reflect
the
boundaries
as
delineated
in
the
version
2
map
subject
to
final
approval
of
the
technical
Language
by
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
Kim
I.
Don't
know
if
he
is
I'm.
E
Thing
all
right,
so
a
motion
to
amend
and
place
the
in
place
of
the
approved
map.
City
edits
version
two
has
been
made
and
is
there
a
second
to
that
motion
seconded
by
counselor
Shannon,
so
we'll
go
to
discussion
on
this
motion?
Are
there
counselors
who
wish
to
at
any
at
any
comments
to
this
discussion?
Councilor
Barlow.
V
V
E
V
T
AJ
R
AB
AJ
AC
U
E
E
E
E
E
You
bless
you
city,
council
rules,
and
for
this
this
is
a
discussion
item
that
will
come
to
us
come
with
a
motion
as
once
we
once
we
decide
on
what
the
motion
will
be,
and
there
are
two
options
that
are
listed
on
board
docs
for
an
overview
of
the
changes
to
our
Council
rules.
I
will
go
to
one
of
the
three
members
of
the
small
working
group
and
that
being
counselor
Hightower.
AH
AH
AH
Things
that
are
in
committee
cannot
be
taken
up
again
in
the
council
unless
two-thirds
of
the
council
votes
to
take
it
up
again.
A
majority
of
the
council
votes
to
take
it
up
at
a
subsequent
meeting,
not
to
happen
one
week.
No
sooner
than
one
week
after
the
vote,
or
the
matter
has
been
sitting
in
the
committee
for
at
least
three
City
Council
meetings.
AH
Meetings
to
the
entire
city
council,
which
is
in
line
with
what
we
discussed
at
our
Council
retreat,
individual
counselors
and
committees,
shall
not
assign
a
request.
Significant
assignments
be
carried
up
by
City
departments
without
receiving
the
endorsement
from
the
entire
Council.
However,
City
departments
may
bring
items
to
the
committee
for
consideration.
Without
endorsement,
we
have
added
the
requirement
that
if
an
ad
hoc
or
standing
committee
member
misses
three
or
more
meetings
within
a
council
year,
the
president
council
president
May
rescind
the
appointment
and
appoint
another
counselor
to
fill
the
vacancy.
AH
AH
We
changed
public
forum
from
having
a
Time
certain
of
7
30
to
starting
no
earlier
than
6
pm
and
no
later
than
7,
30
p.m
and
Lasting
for
60
minutes,
and
we
added
counselor
Reflections
on
public
comments
on
public
forum.
Excuse
me,
and
these
comments
must
be
in
response
to
comments
heard
at
the
public
forum
and
they
will
have
no
longer
than
one
minute
per
counselor.
AH
E
Thank
you,
councilor
Hightower.
So,
as
I
said,
there
are
two
options
when
it
comes
to
emotion,
I
would
open
the
floor
to
the
council
for
a
discussion
about
our
rules
and
then
based
on
that,
perhaps
we
can
come
to
a
consensus
as
far
as
whether
we
wish
to
adopt
what
you've
just
heard
or
if
more
time
is
needed,
and
we
would
then
go
and
discuss
this
again
at
our
February
6th
meeting.
Are
there
any
counselors
who
wish
to
speak
to
any
aspect
of
our
rules?
T
T
E
V
E
E
Thank
you
that
was.
That
certainly
was
our
our
hope.
These
count,
the
desire
to
redo
some
aspects
of
our
Council
rules
came
as
a
result
of
our
Retreat
that
was
back
in
May,
and
it's
taken
us
some
time
to
get
here,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
move
that
forward
if
you
are
willing
to
make
that
change
in
calendar.
E
There
is
a
second.
The
second
was
by
Mar
councilor
Bergman,
made
by
councilor
Shannon,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
refer
this
to
Charter
change.
Please
say:
aye
aye
hi
any
opposed.
Please
say
no,
so
we
will
refer
that
to
the
Charter
change
committee
and
we'll
hope
to
have
that
back
in.
It
wasn't
part
of
the
motion,
but
we'll
hope
to
have
that
back
sometime
in
March.
E
T
T
E
B
T
E
T
E
E
U
So
we'll
follow
along
here,
so
I
would
move
to
amend,
counselor
bergman's
Amendment
to
reflect
instead
of
122.23.
The
GB
proposed
amendment
to
reflect
the
attachment
which
is
labeled
cues,
one
to
three
short
form:
question
Charter
change,
proposals,
town
meeting
day,
23
BJT
proposed
amendment
with
GB
Amendment,
and
if
the
initial
mover
of
that
amendment
is
friendly
to
it,
that
would
be
my
ask.
T
E
AC
T
U
Modifies
questions
one
to
three,
as
reflected
in
the
document
cues
one
two
three
short
form
question:
Charter
change
proposals,
town
meeting
day,
23
BJT
proposed
amendment
with
GB
Amendment,
and
what
this
does
is
I
completely
agree
with
councilor
bergman's
addition
to
the
proposed
Charter
chain
short
form
question
on
legal
resident
voters
in
speaking
to
council
Bergman
about
it.
We
thought
that
the
order
of
this
would
make
sense
where
that
question
would
go
first.
U
U
It
clarifies
that
and
I
should
say
that
the
way
that
the
short
form
question
was
written
previously,
it
indicated
that
the
purpose
of
this
change
was
to
allow
this
is
going
to
get
complicated.
But
but
basically
the
goal
here
with
the
second
question
and
I
would
defer
to
council
Bergman
unless,
as
chair
of
the
charter
change
committee
was,
was
really
the
language
around
the
location
of
polling
places
and
the
ability
to
cite
two
polling
locations
in
in
the
same
place,
and
so
in
in
consolidating
this
into
a
single
paragraph.
U
AC
U
AC
E
Are
there
any
other
counselors
who
wish
to
speak
to
the?
Actually
you
have
yes,
we
have.
We
have
done
that.
We
have
already.
We
have
already
voted
on
that
so
or
we
haven't
voted.
It
was
friendly.
Okay,
so
we
are
on
the
resolution
as
presented
and
the
short
form
question
Charter
attachment
as
amended.
E
AJ
E
E
E
E
U
E
So,
just
to
clarify
what
we
we
had
already
gone,
we
didn't
make
them.
There
was
no
vote
on
the
Amendments
that
you
had
made
counselor
Traverse
because
they
were
friendly
to
the
first
and
secondary,
so
that
never
happened
because
we
didn't
need
for
it
to
happen.
So
that's
why
I
went
to
a
vote
on
the
overall
on
the
overall.
However,
if
that
isn't,
if
there
is
an
additional
amendment
that
you
wish
to
make,
then
my
apologies,
we
weren't
ready
for
a
vote,
so
I
guess
we
need
to
go
back.
T
E
E
Okay,
you're
all
way
ahead
of
him
motion
is
made
to
reconsider
by
counselor.
Shannon
just
need
to
be
able
to
reflect
this
in
the
minutes
and
that
was
seconded
by
counselor
Freeman.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
so
there's
a
motion,
the
motion
is
to
reconsider
the
vote
that
we
just
took
and
is
there
any
discussion
on
that
motion?
A
E
E
U
Thank
you,
president
Paul,
and
so
just
by
means
of
explanation.
Here
again,
there
are
five
short
form
questions.
The
ballot
on
R5
proposed
Charter
changes.
I
had
spoken
to
council
Bergman
before
the
meeting
with
respect
to
questions
one
two
three
and
understood
that
he
would
be
friendly
to
that
Amendment,
which
is
why
I
broke
it
out.
That
way
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
council
Bergman.
U
A
number
of
our
colleagues
here
with
respect
to
this
motion,
which
would
now
be
with
respect
to
questions
four
and
five
and
so
I
would
move
to
amend
the
language
short
form
language
for
questions
four
and
five
to
reflect
the
language
in
corporate
rated
in
the
attachment.
Cues
four
to
five
short
form:
question
Charter
change,
proposals,
town
meeting
day,
23
BJT
proposed
amendment
and
would
ask
for
the
floor
back
upon
a
second.
E
T
E
E
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
E
And
hopefully,
everyone
has
had
a
chance
to
read
the
amendment.
This
is
Q
four
to
five
short
form
short
form.
Charter
Charter
change.
I
can't
read
the
whole
thing.
Okay,
this
is
Q's
four
to
five
short
form
question
Charter
change
proposals,
town
meeting
day,
so
I
apologize,
I'm,
I'm,
now,
I'm,
forgetting
when
we.
When
we
took
the
break
we
had
not.
You
had
not
had
a
chance
to
really
introduce
that.
Did
you
want
to?
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
counselor
Travers.
S
E
E
U
We've
discussed
it
a
bit
in
the
public
hearing
here,
but
that
petition
process
allows
for
proposals
to
amend
the
charter
to
be
placed
on
the
ballot.
If
the
petition
is
signed
by
at
least
five
percent
of
Voters
of
the
City
of
Burlington,
we
need
to
hold
two
public
hearings
on
the
matter,
as
we
have
today,
and
our
first
public
hearing
on
January
17th
and
under
State
Statute.
U
The
city
council
does
not
have
the
authority
to
revise
a
charter
proposal
made
by
petition
and
given
the
difference
between
these
two
questions
from
the
process
that
was
gone
through
for
the
first
three
questions
on
the
ballot
and
again,
given
that
this
is
a
process
that
voters
are
unfamiliar
with.
There
are
some
introductory
language
to
questions
four
and
five
that
I
thought
was
important
for
voters
to
have
in
hand.
U
There's
then
I
should
say
there
are
no
amendments
suggested
for
question
five,
which
is
the
charter
change
regarding,
what's
referred
to
as
proposition
zero.
There
is
some
additional
language.
That's
added
to
question
four
and
and
I
thought
that
was
necessary
because
the
breadth
of
this
proposed
Charter
change,
which,
using
its
own
language,
stands
up.
U
A
new
independent
Department
of
the
city
comprised
not
only
of
an
independent
Community
Police
Department
control
board,
but
also
provides
that
control
board
the
authority
to
establish
and
maintain
an
investigative
office,
an
office
that
can
employ
a
director,
an
office
that
may
hire
other
staff
or
Consultants,
including
independent
legal
counsel.
Given
that
the
charter
change
has
language
in
there
about
this
office
needing
to
be
funded
with
adequate
appropriation,
I
thought
it
necessary
to
provide
voters
an
opportunity
to
understand
that
this
isn't
simply
another
volunteer
board
and
commission.
U
You
know
we
have
a
volunteer
police
commission,
they
do
excellent
work
and
and-
and
many
of
our
volunteer
boards
and
commissions
probably
should
be
compensated
more
for
the
work
that
they
do.
But
but
this
is
taking
a
a
step
further
in
really
establishing
a
new
office
and
thought
it
important
that
voters
have
additional
information
along
those
lines
and
also
the
fact
that
the
first
thing
that
this
proposed
Charter
change
does
is.
U
It
does
completely
strike
through
and
remove
the
language
on
the
chief's
authority
to
remove
a
member
for
cause,
and
it
replaces
it
with
language
around
the
Independent
Community
Control
Board.
So
this
language
reflects
I
think
more
accurately,
the
the
breadth
of
this
measure
and
that's
the
reason
for
the
amendment.
E
Thank
you,
counselor
Travers
I
do
want
to
I
did
want
to
also
just
make
sure
that
everyone
was
aware
that
attorney
Pellerin
has
just
let
me
know
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
aware
that
there
actually
are
six
questions
that
will
be
on
the
ballot.
The
sixth
question
is
the
one
that
we
discussed
a
few
minutes
ago
on
redistricting,
so
there
will
be
six
total
and
the
short
language
for
that
was
approved
in
the
other
resolution.
Just
so
we're
all
clear
on
that.
So
we're
right
now.
E
What
we're
talking
about
is
five,
but
there
is
a.
There
is
a
sixth
that
will
also
appear
on
the
ballot.
Are
there?
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
overview.
Councilor
Travers.
Are
there
any
questions
on
what
we
have
now
by
friendly
Amendment
approved,
which
is
the
short
form,
the
short
form
question
Charter
change
proposals
tell
meeting
day,
23
verse
version
3
that
have
added
questions
one
through
three
and
questions
four
and
five
and
the
resolution
that
we
would
also
be
voting
on
councilor,
Shannon.
AC
My
understanding
is,
we
now
have
the
councilor
traverse's
amendment
has
essentially
been
adopted.
So
that's
what's
on
the
floor.
So
it's
an
amendment
to
that
and
it
adds
the
following
language,
which
has
been
sent
to
you
and
I'm,
not
sure.
If
it
was
put
up
on
board,
docs
and
I
will
read
the
language
and
I,
don't
know
if
people
want
another
recess
to
consider
it,
but
I'll
read
it.
AC
I
want
to
add
this
language
because,
having
served
on
the
charter
change
committee
that
considered
something
very
similar
to
what's
being
proposed
now,
I
know
that
the
makeup
of
the
board
was
something
we
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
on.
It
was
very
integral
to
the
entire
concept
of
of
what
this
board
essentially
is,
and
so
I
want
that
language
to
to
be
reflected
in
the
charter
change,
because
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
important
and
I
don't
so
anyway,
the
the
languages
to
the
extent
possible.
AC
The
board
shall
include
members
who
are
black,
indigenous
or
other
people
of
color
members
who
have
lived
experience
with
houselessness
mental
health
conditions,
sex
work,
domestic
violence,
substance
use
disorder
and
or
arrest
or
conviction,
records
members
who
have
experience
working
with
an
organization
that
supports
black
indigenous
or
other
people
of
color
and
members
who
are
affiliated
with
an
organization
in
the
field
of
civil
rights,
mental
health,
youth
advocacy,
lgbtq
advocacy
or
alcohol
and
other
substance
use.
No
members
shall
ever
have
been
employed
by
a
law
enforcement
agency.
E
B
E
E
E
E
A
A
A
E
E
E
E
T
So
don't
need
it
to
be
friendly
because
you
have
a
second,
it's
not
friendly,
there's
a
lot
in
the
in
the
proposal
and
we
could-
and
it's
all
important
this
is
aspirational.
It
does
not
do
the
service
of
a
short
form,
the
every
every
voting
booth
right,
the
kiosks
are
going
to
have
the
long
form
this
people
can
read
it.
It's
going
to
be
there.
T
AH
With
the
the
I
I
think
that
it
made
a
lot
of
sense
to
add
more
language,
so
that
folks
really
knew
what
they
were
voting
on,
because
there
is
a
lot
to
the
proposal.
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
part
of
The
Proposal,
but
it
doesn't
because
it's
not
really
binding
to
the
city,
I
think
it's
additional
language
that
won't
necessarily
change
anyone's
mind,
so
I
think
it
just
gives
folks
more
to
read
so
I'd.
AH
AC
AC
Language
I
believe
that
we
are
instructing
the
committee
who
selects
people
for
the
board
that
if
they
have
candidate
a
who
meets
these
criteria
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
criteria
that
could
be
met
versus
care
and
today,
B,
who
doesn't
that
the
board
shall
include
the
members
that
meet
the
criteria.
I
also
think
that
this
was
I
mean
there's
some
things
here
you
can
like
and
other
things,
maybe
you
don't
like
and
depending
on
who
you
are.
AC
You
may
like
different
ones
or
or
others,
but
this
is
key
to
the
intentions
of
the
creation
of
this
committee
is
who
the
committee
is?
Who
is
the
oversight
or
control
provided
by
is
absolutely
essential?
I
know.
Some
people
have
suggested
that
that
I
change
this
language,
but
this
is
just
a
direct
quote
from
the
amendment:
I,
don't
I
think
it
would
be
discriminatory
and
cherry
picking
for
me
to
change
the
language
or
only
to
highlight
you
know.
AC
AH
I
agree
with
councilor
Barlow
that
probably
the
controversial
part
of
that
is
the
no
law
enforcement,
but
I
believe
we
already
voted
to
add
that
to
the
language
with
the
amendment
we
just
passed
in
in
counselor,
traverses,
Amendment
and
so
I
would
say,
we've
put
in
the
controversial
bit
so
folks
know
what
they're
voting
on
and
I'm
not
again
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
rest
of
the
language
is
that
controversial
and
or
so
I
would
I
have
not
changed
my
mind.
Although
I
appreciate
councilor
Barlow's,
point
I
think
it's
already
been
addressed.
AC
Yeah
and
I
was
trying
to
quickly
reference
what
councilor
Travers
had
put
forward
to
see,
because
I
thought
that
I
had
seen
that
language
but
I'm
happy
to
remove
that
language.
If
it's
already
in
there
because
that's
redundant,
and
we
certainly
don't
need
redundancy
in
a
short
form
question.
So,
okay
and
I
see
it
there.
So
if
it's
friendly
to
myself
and
the
seconder
I
will
remove
that
last
set
a
sentence
due
to
redundancy.
AC
R
Thanks
I,
just
I'll
find
out
a
discussion.
I
remember
the
first
year
we
sent
out
automatically
sent
out
ballots.
We
did
in
fact
include
the
whole
form
of
our
Charter
changes,
and
this
is
a
very
long
one
that
was
my
ask,
but
in
conversation
with
CEO
Shad,
we
did
agree
that
I
feel
it.
It's
very
necessary
that,
as
a
supplement,
so
to
speak,
that
we
have
clear
in
structures
not
on
the
ballot,
but
with
the
ballot
about
where
we
get
information.
AB
You,
president
and
I
will
not
be
supporting
this,
because
I
think
my
colleagues
talked
extensively
about
it,
because,
from
my
perspective,
this
is
a
fact
that
I
do
the
extent
possible,
meaning
that
we
are
not
serious.
If
you're
serious
the
board
shall
and
it's
a
binding,
it
will
be
part
of
it
and
I
think
also.
The
other
argument
is
right.
After
we
vote
on
this,
there
are
by
Park
organization
that
would
be
taking
these
ballot
items
to
try
to
translate
them
and
make
them
available
in
public
voting
places,
and
these
are
expensive.
AB
AE
Thank
you.
Sorry
I
was
just
sort
of
thinking
out
loud
about
this
as
we
go
along,
I
guess,
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
because
we
do
already
have
the
line
about
never
having
been
employed
by
a
law
enforcement
agency
which
seems
to
be
succinct
because
none
of
the
other
aspects
actually
preclude
someone
from
having
other
types
of
experience
with
law
enforcement.
Like
you
kind
of
experienced
houselessness,
but
have
like
be
a
lawyer
or
you
could
have
experienced,
you
could
have
been
done,
sex
work
or
have
mental
health
conditions
or
admit
or
whatever
other
components.
AE
AE
And
so
if
the
issue
is
really
around
not
having
people
who've
worked
in
law
enforcement
agencies
that
is
already
in
the
short
form
language.
So
it
it's
odd
it's.
This
is
just
odd
to
me
and
I
I,
don't
think
I
will
not
be
supporting
it
and
I
I
was
thinking
out
loud
a
little
bit
so
I
hope
that
was
cohesive
enough,
but
yeah
and
maybe
counselor
Barlow
or
counselor
Shannon
can
speak
towards
exactly
what
they
were
proactively
looking
for
On
The
Border.
AE
They
feel
that
members
of
the
community
that
have
reached
out
to
them
other
than
the
fact
that
people
work
have
worked
in
law
enforcement
because
I
don't
think
any
of
these
identities
preclude
any
other
aspect
of
someone
being
on
the
board.
It
simply
precludes
that
one
thing
that
is
is
actually
Limited
in
the
language
which
is
in
the
short
form
language,
so
I
I.
Don't
think
it
would
make
sense
to
put
this
in
the
short
form.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
Freeman,
just
just
so
you're
aware,
because
we
will
go
to
a
vote
on
this
after
the
line
about
November
shall
be
have
been
employed
by
a
law
enforcement
agency
that
I'd
that
was
removed,
because
that
I,
that
were
that
wording,
is
actually
already
in
the
the
short
form
that
we
already
approved.
As.
B
W
E
AE
AC
Thank
you,
I
I
included
the
law
enforcement
piece
only
to
make
it
whole
to
explain
what
the
goals
were
for
people
serving
on
this
board.
So
I
wouldn't
say
that
that
was
the
most
important
part
to
me.
I
know
that
councilor
Barlow
did
make
that
comment,
but
that
was
not.
That
was
not
my
comment.
I
just
wanted
people
to
know
in
whole
what
the
goals
were
for
this
board
and
I.
AC
E
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
include
the
language
that
is
under
additional
short
form
language
for
for
Q4.
So
we
all
know
what
we're
voting
on
we're
voting
on
the
language
that
was
submitted
by
councilor,
Shannon
and
seconded
by
councilor
Barlow.
That
does
not
include
the
very
last
line.
Last
sentence
has
been
removed
with
that
we'll
go
to
a
vote
and
try
to
do
this
by
or
by
a
show
of
hands
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
I
or
let's
raise
our
hand,
please
raise
your
hand.
E
E
E
A
AJ
E
Opposed,
please
say:
no:
the
motion
passes
unanimously.
We
have
our
short
language
that
will
be
seen
on
the
ballot
on
town
meeting
day,
which
brings
us
to
a
public
hearing
item
7.05,
a
public
hearing
regarding
Waterfront
Burlington
Waterfront
tax
increment
financing
district
is
substantial
change
request
before
we
get
to
the
public
hearing,
know
that
director
Brian
Pine
of
cedo
and
our
consultant,
David
G
white,
are
present
and
have
worked
extensively
on
this
change
request
would
ask
that
you
provide
a
brief
background
on
this
item
and
then
we
will
go
to
the
public
hearing.
AK
I'm
Brian
Pine,
the
director
of
the
community
and
economic
development
office
with
me
tonight,
is
David
White,
our
consultant
and
we'll
both
say
just
a
few
remarks
to
get
this
kicked
off
tonight,
we're
providing
to
the
council
and
to
the
public
a
overview
of
the
materials
that
we
will
be
submitting
to
the
Vermont
economic
progress.
Council,
also
known
as
vepcy
so
you'll
hear
me,
say:
vepc
a
few
times
for
a
deadline
coming
up
on
February
3rd.
AK
That
deadline
is
the
last
possible
date
for
us,
as
a
city,
to
submit
the
materials
to
Pepsi
before
the
legislatively
mandated
deadline
to
issue
bonds
coming
up
in
June,
June
30th.
So,
just
to
repeat,
this
is
the
last
possible
opportunity
to
submit
these
materials
to
vepcy
the
legislation
that
authorized
the
extension
of
the
Waterfront
Tiff
district
for
the
three
city
place
or
Burlington
Town
Center
Parcels,
as
they
were
once
called
beyond
the
2025
expiration.
AK
The
rest
of
the
Waterfront
Tiff
District
to
2035
requires
that
the
city
submit
a
Construction
contract
by
the
developer
of
not
less
than
50
million
dollars
with
a
completion
guarantee.
That
is
really
the
Central
purpose
of
the
proposed
application
to
vepsi.
I
should
note
that
the
term
that
vepsi
requires
us
to
use
is
a
substantial
change
request.
So
that's
what
the
voters
and
that's
what
the
public
and
the
council
has
seen
or
will
see
when
they
look
at
this,
but
really
just
to
clarify.
That's
a
the
project
itself.
AK
The
terms
of
the
project
that
were
agreed
to
in
the
Arda,
the
amended
and
restated
development
agreement,
known
as
RNA
2.0
last
November,
is,
is
exactly
what
this
it's
all
the
same,
there's
nothing
different!
That's
that's!
What's
a
little
misleading
about
the
term,
substantial
change,
but
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
additionally,
vepsi
requires
that
the
city
submit
materials,
not
just
in
addition
or
I,
should
say
in
addition
to
the
contract
and
the
completion
guarantee
that
show
that
the
financial
plan
is
both
feasible
and
viable
that
the
district
holds
together
from
a
financial
standpoint.
AK
This
requires
that
we
submit
this
material
by
the
third
and
Pepsi
will
hold
a
public
hearing,
and
the
board
will
deliberate
on
March
30th.
However,
they
have
60
days
to
issue
a
decision.
We
fully
hope
and
expect
that
they
will
issue.
One
sooner
David
will
now
explain
the
details
and
the
assumptions
that
are
key
to
the
city's
financing
plans.
That
Pepsi
will
be
reviewing
I
just
want
to
also
note
that
Al
Seneca
and
Patrick
O'brien
from
CityPlace
partners
are
here,
but
they're
not
here,
to
make
any
comments
they're
just
here
with
us
tonight,
so.
AF
AF
And
for
the
record,
I'm
David
White,
president
of
weidenberg,
real
estate,
advisors
and
Consultants
of
the
city
on
the
waterfront,
Tiff
district
and
other
aspects
so
relative
to
the
application
to
Pepsi,
which
has
been,
to
a
large
degree
my
responsibility
to
coordinate
all
that
and
bring
the
pieces
together,
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
what
that
entails.
So
you
may
recall
that
back
in
2016,
this
Council
and
the
voters
approved
bonding
and
related
costs
for
the
BTC
project
and
three
properties
involved
of
21
million,
eight
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
maximum.
AF
Now
some
of
that
has
already
been
spent
over
the
intervening
years
on
related
costs
and
other
aspects,
but
the
majority
of
it.
The
vast
majority
of
it
has
not
been
it.
We've
been
waiting
for
a
viable
project,
the
application
that
we
will
be
submitting
or
we're
proposing
that
you
authorize
the
submission
of
shows
a
bonding
up
to
a
maximum
of
18
million,
eight
hundred
and
forty.
So
it's
within
that
21
million
dollar
maximum
and
in
addition
to
that,
related
costs
and
I'll
get
to
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
that.
AF
For
just
in
just
a
moment,
the
Tiff
Construction
contract,
we
have
been
provided
by
City,
Place
Partners,
the
developer,
that's,
as
we
all
know
now,
under
construction
with
the
project.
They're
phase,
one
of
the
project,
they've
supplied
us
with
a
contract,
a
Construction
contract,
that's
just
a
hair
under
60
million
dollars,
if
I
recall
correctly,
it's
59
million
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
so
we're
in
excess
of
that
minimum
threshold.
Now,
ultimately,
they
expect
the
full
project
to
be
closer
to
180
million
dollars
in
costs
with
all
the
development
phase.
AF
Two
of
the
project,
which
would
be
built
on
where
the
remaining
portion
of
the
mall
is
that
fronts
on
Church
Street,
as
well
as
the
LL
Bean
Building.
While
we
have
no
detailed
estimates
internally
we're
we
are
guesstimating
that
it
will
likely
be
at
least
80
million
dollars
in
additional
construction
costs.
AF
He
has
guesstimated
a
range
of
possible
values
depending
upon
all
a
number
of
variables,
but
how
the
project
may
come
out
in
the
we
are
taking
kind
of
a
middle
ground
and
using
a
figure
about
120
million
dollars
compared
to
the
180
of
cost,
about
120
million
dollars
of
value,
assessed
value
upon
completion
and
that's
what
we're
using
to
drive
the
the
cash
flow
and
projections
for
the
ability
of
the
city
to
repay
debt
phase.
Two
again,
we
have
no
value
of
that.
AF
At
this
time
we
don't
have
detailed
plans
and
so
forth,
but
we're
guesstimating
that
we'll
hit
about
55
to
60
million
in
that
range.
But
I
want
to
be
clear:
we're
not
relying
on
phase
two
for
the
ability
to
repay
the
debt.
It's
in
what
we're
proposing
to
show
to
Pepsi,
because
it's
the
full
picture
of
where
we
expect
this
to
go.
But
we
are
not
relying
on
that.
For
The
Debt
Service
now
phase
one
which
we
are
relying
on
We
Believe,
can
support
about
16
million
dollars
in
debt.
AF
That's
what
the
projections
show
and
that's
what
we
are
at
the
present
time
estimating
we
will
ultimately
bring
back
to
the
city
council,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
tonight
we're
not
asking
you
to
actually
authorize
issuance
of
the
bond
or
a
final
bonding
amount.
We
will
come
back
to
you
later
for
that.
AF
The
numbers
are
in
the
materials
that
were
supplied,
195
000
of
that
are
actually
prior
costs
that
have
been
accrued,
but
not
yet
reimbursed
to
the
city
is
about
a
million
three.
Seventy
that
would
be
future
costs.
The
final
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
important
for
the
public
to
understand
and
I
know.
The
city
council
is
already
aware
of
this-
is
that
the
the
Tiff
funds
are
not
just
the
only
money
coming
in.
They
are
likely
to
be
the
minority
of
money
coming
in
that
we,
this.
AF
The
city
has
already
obtained,
through
the
good
work
of
the
retired
Senator
Leahy,
a
12
million
dollar
earmark
to
rebuild
a
Cherry
Street,
all
the
way
from
Battery
to
South,
bonusky
Avenue
and
a
piece
of
the
Tiff
money
will
be
used
for
the
required
local
match
for
those
dollars.
So
about
three
million
dollars
out
of
the
16
that
we
guesstimate
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
you
to
propose
the
the
about.
Three
million
of
that
will
go
directly
to
leverage
an
additional
12
million.
AF
In
addition
to
that,
the
city
has
applied
for
what's
called
a
reconnecting
communities,
grant
that
will
help
do
pay
for
the
reconnection
through
Saint,
Paul
and
pine
streets,
the
the
streets
that
were
cut
off
during
the
urban
renewal
area
and
the
Reconstruction
of
Bank
Street
and
the
the
city
applied
for
about
15
million
dollars
of
that.
But
at
the
present
time
we
don't
think
we're
going
to
need
the
full
15..
AF
We
think
we're
going
to
need
about
10
of
that
and
we'll
need
additional
matching
money
that
what
most
of
which
would
also
come
from
the
Tiff.
So
that's
the
quick
summation
but
again
a
reminder.
We're
not
looking
for
approval
of
precise
bond
amount,
just
the
authorization
to
go
to
vepc
with
this
application.
At
this
time,.
E
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
It
doesn't
appear
as
though
there's
anyone
online
who
wishes
to
speak
during
the
public
hearing,
so
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
at
10
21,
and
we
will
go
to
the
final
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
7.06.
That's
the
Waterfront
Tiff
District
application,
devepsi
for
financing
of
public
improvements
associated
with
CityPlace,
Burlington
and
I
will
go
to
councilor
Barlow
for
a
motion.
E
AK
AK
E
T
Just
recently,
the
mayor's
office
released
something
on
the
the
audit
on
the
waterfront,
Tiff
District,
and
so
I
am
just
trying
to
see
if
there
is
any
connections
in
terms
of
the
monies
that
are
going
to
be
transferred
back
into
the
Tiff
and
this
project,
or
just
I
mean
I,
don't
like
their
us.
Talking
about
you
know
like
one
Waterfront
Tiff,
but
we've
got
all
these
things,
they're
not
all
connected.
So
maybe
you
can
just
connect
some
dots
and
some
more
some
money
is
going
back
into
the
Tiff.
AK
Sure
we
I
think
I'm
going
to
attempt
to
respond,
and
then
obviously,
if
the
mayor
has
more
to
add,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
I
would
just
say
that
the
as
you
know,
the
audit
looked
at
at
past
practices,
past
performance,
past
accounting,
and
so
the
subject
of
the
audit
is
the
is
the
the
past.
If
you
will-
and
this
is
certainly
looking
prospectively-
the
reimbursement
to
the
Waterfront
Tiff
is
from
a
project
viability.
AK
AK
AF
AB
Yep
I
think
my
question
was
asked
by
councilor
Bergman
along
those
lines
and
just
reassurance
I
think
that's
what
we
all
deserve
now
and
also
to
remind
Council
director
Pine
that
there
is
no
past
it's
all
connected.
We
are
here
and
will
continue
to
pay
for
the
mistake
of
the
past,
so
it's
all
connected,
especially
when
we
even
have
now
a
a
tiff
consultant
right.
I
mean
I,
want
reassurance
that
we
are
covered
on
this
one
before
we
try
to
move
forward
on
a
vote.
From
your
perspective.
AK
The
it's
a
great
question,
I
think
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
describe
the
consultant's
scope
of
services
and
can
add,
perhaps
if
there's
more
detail
needed,
but
that
the
work
that
David
and
his
firm
are
doing
is
is
really
think
of
it
as
the
development
work
that
is
necessary
to
put
together
an
application
to
get
through
the
Vermont
economic
progress
Council
to
then
go
and
be
able
to
issue
the
bonds.
So
it's
not
really
the
same
as
the
internal
procedures
around
for
both
expenses
and
revenues.
That
is
the
city's
responsibility.
AK
David.
The
consulting
firm
doesn't
play
a
role
in
that,
but
I
would
add
that
CAO
shad
recognized
immediately
upon
her
arrival
that
the
capital
accounting
systems
of
the
city
needed
some
upgrading
and
brought
on
beauty
cap,
pretty
much
right
away
to
bring
their
expertise,
managing
Tif
districts
all
across
the
country
to
the
city,
and
so
the
the
improvements
which
even
the
auditor
noted
are
in
place
now
to
prevent
future
accounting
mistakes
from
occurring.
AB
AF
AB
E
AH
I,
unfortunately,
have
the
similar
line
of
questions
I
think
against
councilor
Bergman
and
counselor
Jang,
which
is
we
started
with
the
cash
that
the
auditor
says
is
on
hand.
But
did
we
change
our
accounting
method
processes
to
make
sure
that
the
next
year,
accounting
is
now
in
line
with
our
updated
ICCU
Chad
nodding
her
head?
Yes,
so
I'll
take
that
and
then
the
second
question
that
I
had
was
I
know
that
mayor
Weinberger
disagreed
with
a
component
of
the
audit
that
had
to
do
with
the
legislators
and
I.
AH
P
P
There
are
many
findings
and
there's
there's
a
lot
in
there,
but
the
kind
of
biggest
Financial
kind
of
immediate
impacts
are
that
there
is
a
transfer
back
to
the
TIF
district,
strengthening
of
the
Tiff
District
of
more
than
a
million
dollars,
and
so
that
is
additional
funds
that
are
in
in
that
that
will
be
in
the
Tiff
District.
When
we
make
these
adjustments
that
will-
and
it's
not
that
David
White
is
saying,
he's
based
the
future
projections
off
of
the
disagreement.
P
There
is
the
auditor
characterized
what
has
happened
there
as
errors
where
by
the
city
when,
in
fact,
the
discrepancies
that
are
largely
due
to
the
state's
software
and
the
way
that
interacts
with
the
city's
property
tax
system
and
we've
had
awareness
of
this.
Since
the
audit
process
has
been
going
on
and
there's
been
an
effort
to
work
with
the
state
and
the
private
contractor,
that's
responsible
for
the
software
to
get
these
ironed
out.
P
Part
of
that
is
ongoing,
and
so
really
our
main
objection
was
to
the
characterization
of
these
as
City
errors,
and
we
think
it's
premature
to
say
exactly
where
this
is
all
going
to
kind
of
sugar
off,
because
there
is
still
work
ongoing.
There's
a
smaller
subset
of
that
that
has
to
do
with
a
ongoing
dispute
about
the
way
in
which
a
specific
garage
was
taxed.
All
that
to
say
is
so.
P
There
is
a
possibility,
a
very
significant
possibility
that
there
will
be
an
additional
payment
that
will
need
to
be
made
by
the
city
to
the
Ed
fund.
It
will
not
impact
the
Waterfront
Tiff
calculations
or
the
the
projections
that
we're
working
off
of
in
further
just
to
degree.
I
just
want
to
re-emphasize
that
the
vote
being
made
tonight
is
to
submit
this
application
not
to
make
any
kind
of
financial
commitments
around
the
what
what
new
commitment
statistry
is
taking
on.
So
it's
agree,
there's
still
further
time
for
that.
U
Thank
you,
president
Paul.
Just
very
briefly
here.
A
number
of
my
colleagues
understandably,
given
the
news
of
the
day,
have
questions
about
the
Waterfront
Tiff
District,
but
I
want
to
take
an
opportunity
here
to
really
Express
how
excited
I
am
about
the
work,
that's
underway
downtown,
to
thank
the
team.
That's
here
for
their
ongoing
commitment
to
our
community.
U
AK
AK
The
district
for
the
rest
of
the
districts,
not
these
Parcels-
ends
in
2025
and
beginning
in
that
year
that
fiscal
year
the
general
fund
Revenue
increases
by
750
000
annually.
Beginning
then.
So
it's
a
it's
a
good
news
in
terms
of
forecasting
ahead.
It
is
a
little
bit
down
the
road,
but
it
is
something
beneficial
official
about
the
whole
nature
of
the
Tiff.
It
does
grow
the
grand
list
to
provide
support
for
all
the
general
fund
services
that
and
that
we
rely
on
thanks,
it'll.
E
Be
here
before
we
know
it
with
that
and
seeing
no
other
comments
for
the
council
from
the
council
will
go
to
a
vote.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
is
made
by
councilor,
Barlow
and
seconded
by
councilor
Carpenter,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
Please
say
no.
That
motion
passes
unanimously
with
our
thanks
to
both
of
you
and
support
for
the
project
moving
forward
that
completes
our
deliberative
agenda
and,
with
that
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
our
meeting
so
moved
by
counselor,
McGee
and
seconded
by
councilor
Brandt
Brandt.