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00:00:00 Call to Order/Pledge of Allegiance
00:00:24 Cannabis Control Board
00:19:15 Agenda Review
00:19:24 Public Comment
00:22:56 Consent Agenda
00:23:42 Council Reports
00:30:46 City Updates
00:33:33 Chittenden County Solid Waste District Bond Vote Presentation
00:49:49 Town Meeting TV Municipal Update
01:12:31 Reserve Fund Request
01:40:22 Strategic Vision Area Goal Update - Safe, Healthy, Connected People
01:52:40 Communications Director Position Scope
02:04:54 Hallkeen Request
02:11:46 ARPA Tax Increment Financing Context for FY24 Budget Goal Setting
02:54:40 Vermont League of Cities and Towns Policy
03:12:05 Executive Session
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A
Our
first
meeting
of
the
Winooski
cannabis
control
board:
please
join
us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
led
by
Deputy
Mayor
Jim
Duncan,
congratulations
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
request
for
a
local
retail
license
for
Native
East
LLC
doing
business
as
wanushki,
Organics
and
Eric
will
introduce
for
us.
B
A
B
This
is
for
a
property
located
at
165
East
Allen
Street
they've,
currently
been
running
a
CBD
Organics
Winooski
Organics
they've
been
doing
CBD
they've
applied
to
the
state
for
their
cannabis
retail
license,
there's
still
some
some
back
and
forth
with
the
state
to
see
where
they
are
in
that
process,
but
as
I
understand
it.
This
is
the
last
part
that
the
state
needs
before
they
can
issue
the
state
license
for
retail
cannabis,
so
included
with
the
application.
B
Sorry
included
with
the
agenda
I
prepared
a
memo
kind
of
outlining
some
of
the
information
about
The
Establishment,
there's
very
little
that
we
can
actually
provide
based
on
State
Statute.
So
the
applicant
is
free
to
talk
as
much
as
they
want,
but
the
information
we're
we're
limited
on
what
we
can
share
with
the
public
on
these
applications.
So
I
included
some
information
in
my
memo,
including
three
conditions
for
you
to
consider
just
a
quick
update
on
that.
B
The
condition
to
the
receiving
the
Certificate
of
Fitness
and
closing
out
building
permits
I
spoke
with
Fire
Marshal
Palmer.
Today
he
is,
if
he
hasn't
already
he's
planning
to
issue
a
temporary
Certificate
of
Fitness,
basically
indicating
that
the
majority
of
all
the
work
that
they
have
under
permits
right
now
is
done.
The
major
life
safety
issues,
just
a
few
minor
things
that
they're
that
they're
finishing
up
so
he's
comfortable,
letting
them
occupy
and
and
take
over
business
with
that
and
then
also
condition
three
about
having
a
discussion
with
the
police
department.
B
I
think
some
of
that's
a
timing
issue,
so
it
may
be
that
we
have
to
issue
first
before
the
state
will
issue
so
condition.
One
may
not
really
make
sense
again,
there's
some
different
information
coming
from,
depending
on
who
you
talk
to
with
the
state.
So
that's
the
the
application
the
applicants
are
actually
here
tonight,
so
I
will,
if
there's
any
questions
about
the
procedural
piece
I'll
take
care
of
that
otherwise
I
will
step
away
and
let
them
speak
thanks.
A
A
B
E
B
Think
at
this
point
we
can
probably
not
consider
that
again,
I
think
it's
as
I
understand
it.
The
state
is
waiting
on
us
to
give
them
indication
that
that
we've
approved
locally
before
they
will
issue
so
I.
Think
at
this
point
it
might
be
that
may
not
be
a
a
necessary
condition
and
I'll
I'll
try
to
get
more
information
from
the
state
on
how
they
intend
to
handle
this
in
the
future.
G
B
My
understanding,
yes,
okay,
yeah
the
state
will
be
issuing
the
operating
license.
Okay,
I
think
the
provisional
license
as
I've
read
through
the
information,
is
really
more
of
an
indication
that
the
state
will
accept
the
license,
the
the
rest
of
the
application,
so
that
an
applicant
can
start
looking
at
financing
or
finding
a
space
to
locate
in
things
of
that
nature,
it
gives
them
more
of
a
everything
seems
to
be
on
the
right
track,
but
you
still
need
to
get
your
your
final
operating
license.
Okay,.
A
B
H
Everybody
in
person
yeah
we're,
excited
and
happy
to
be
here,
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
consider
us
so
we've
had
we've
owned
the
building
for
a
few
years
now,
and
we've
been
working
on
building
up
assets
and
stuff
and
getting
the
place
ready
for
what
we
wanted
to
do.
We've
been
open
for
since
May,
it's
all
in
CBD
and
other
herbal
products,
and
it's
gone
well,
we've
gotten
good.
H
A
I
Hello,
hello,
I'm,
a
local
Winooski
guy
I'm.
Actually
the
coordinator
volunteer
coordinator
at
the
food
shelf.
These
guys
have
been
really
great
kind
of
working
with
community
and
kind
of
putting
their
first.
Their
best
foot
forward
and
I
actually
know
for
a
fact
that
they're
going
to
be
requiring
their
employees
to
work
down
at
the
food
shelf
for
an
hour
a
month,
so
definitely
a
good
good
company
to
support.
So
that's
my
comment.
Thank
you.
Thanks
Jeremy.
A
J
J
C
K
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
so
yeah.
This
is
really
more
of
a
procedural,
a
procedural
question
for
you
all
with
how
you
want
to
see
these
applications
come
forward
in
the
future.
The
state
pretty
much
has
full
authority
over
how
these
applications
get
reviewed.
There's
really
limited
Authority
by
the
municipality
to
impose
additional
regulations
outside
of
the
standard,
zoning
and
and
building
laws
that
are
in
statute
now.
B
So
it's
I,
don't
know
if
this
needs
to
be
a
formally
adopted
procedure,
more
of
a
more
of
a
guidance,
but
that's
really
what
wanted
to
wanted
to
get
your
opinion
and
your
your
input
on
how
you
want
to
see
these
applications
come
forward
in
the
future
and
just
for
reference.
This
will
include
retail
licenses,
cultivating
licenses,
manufacturing,
testing
and
I.
D
B
Sure
so
that
would
still
fall
under
the
zoning
powers
that
we
have
in
our
land
use
regulations,
so
they
would
still
any
any
applicant
would
still
need
to
be
compliant
with
our
local
zoning
and
land
use
regulations
and
any
building
codes
as
it
applies
to
to
the
actual
use
itself
to
all
of
our
performance.
Standards
which
includes
nuisance
and
signage,
are
the
the
main
components
that
would
be
reviewed
against.
So
we
still
have
the
authority
to
to
issue
citations
and
violations
in
that
regard.
D
B
J
B
No,
my
understanding,
my
understanding
is
that
the
state
is
requiring
that
there
be
a
security
plan
and
specific
security
measures
put
in
place.
I
believe
they
do
require
cameras,
at
least
at
the
retail
establishments,
and
for
the
retail.
They
would
have
to
have
specific
security
to
ensure
that
there's
no
one
under
21
on
premises
as
well,
either
either
there
to
purchase
or
employed
I.
B
And
just
just
as
a
clarification
on
the
the
previous
on
the
ACT,
the
application,
the
the
request
from
the
police
department
to
to
review
was
really
more
of
a
the
police.
Chief
and
I
had
a
conversation,
and
he
really
just
wanted
to
get
get
a
better
sense
of
what
their
security
was
not
to
to
try
to
regulate
them
in
any
way
because
they
wouldn't
be
able
to.
It
was
really
more
of
an
informational
and
informational
visit
that
they
that
he
wanted
to
to
have
just
in
case
an
incident
came
up.
B
B
Tobacco,
so
we
don't
regulate
content
because
it's
considered
free
speech,
so
what
we
do
regulate
is
size
and
location
of
the
signage.
So
all
of
our
zoning
districts
have
specific
regulations
for
where
signs
can
be
located.
The
types
of
signs
that
you
can
use
and
how
how
much
square
footage
of
signed
copy
you
can
have.
We
we
can't
specifically
regulate
what
it
says
so,
but
the
state
does
have
in
their
rules
and
regulations.
B
They
do
have
some
some
pretty
strict
guidelines
on
Advertising,
more
for
for
where
the
businesses
and
and
yeah,
where
the
licensees
can
actually
advertise
their
product,
it's
less
about
signage,
and
they
really
rely
on
the
municipalities
to
enforce
the
local
regulations
on
signage.
So
we
would.
We
would
treat
it
like
any
other
business
right
now,
as
far
as
where
what
kind
of
signage
they
can
put
up,
how
much
of
it
they
can
have
where
it
can
be
located
on
the
building
or
on
the
property
itself.
E
I
had
one
follow-up
question
to
that,
because
I
don't
remember
where
this
conversation
was
left,
the
last
time
that
we
talked
about
it
in
terms
of
minimum
distances
from
schools
and
about
something
we
talked
about
prior
I.
Don't
remember
if
that
was
being
covered
by
rules
adopted
by
the
CCB
or
yeah.
B
Operation
cannot
be
located
within
500
feet
of
the
property
that
where
a
school
is
located,
so
there's
also
some
additional
language
in
there
about
adjacency,
so
I'm
not
fully
clear
on
on
what
it
is,
but
they
do
have
specific
requirements
on
distances
from
schools,
and
that
applies
to
any
public
or
private
school.
Pretty
much
K-12
and
I
believe
daycares
as
well.
If
they're
State
licensed.
G
Wanted
to
just
clarify,
so
it
sounds
like
at
least
the
understanding
right
now
is
that
the
state
won't
give
the
operating
license
until
we've.
Also
given
approval,
so
just
to
understand
you
have
we
receive
after
notice
is
received
that
the
CCB
from
the
CCV
that
an
entity
will
be
issued
an
operating
license.
B
Revealing
to
check
yeah,
so
my
understanding
was
that
when
an
applicant,
when
an
application
was
made
to
the
state,
any
municipality
that
has
a
local
cannabis,
Control
Commission
would
get
notification
that
an
application
was
received.
I'm,
not
sure
at
what
point
that
goes
out.
If
it's
done
at
the
provisional
licensing
stage
or
when
they're
I
was
under
the
impression
that
it
was
that
they
would
issue
that
information
when
they
were
prepared
to
issue
a
license.
B
And
then
the
municipality
would
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
act
on
that
if
they
had
a
local
commission,
but
it
sounds
like
that
might
not
be
the
case.
So
that's
something
I
need
to
clarify
as
well,
okay,
but
in
any.
In
any
event,
we
are
supposed
to
be
notified
when
an
application
has
been
made
at
some
stage
in
the
state's
process.
B
Right
right
or
ideally,
we
would
have
the
conversation
if
they
needed
any
any
type
of
local
zoning
permit
or
building
permit
we'd
at
least
have
an
idea
at
that
point
of
what
they
were
doing
and
could
advise
them
if
the
use
that
they're
proposing
would
even
be
permitted
where
they
were
intending
to
locate
it.
Okay,.
B
So
for
retail,
it
would
be
along
the
gateways
in
the
Gateway
zoning
district
and
then
in
the
the
downtown
core,
the
commercial,
the
central
business
district,
which
is
just
outside
of
the
downtown
court
and
then
what
we
call
the
General
commercial,
which
is
really
the
only
property,
that's
not
owned
by
the
city.
That's
in
The,
General,
commercial
district
is
the
hillside
industrial
park
out
on
East
Allen
Street.
A
A
By
Brent,
second,
by
Thomas,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
that's
the
end
of
our
cannabis,
Control
Commission
agenda
may
I.
Have
a
motion
to
adjourn
second
motion
by
Jim.
Second,
by
Bryn,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
motion
carries
I
will
now
call
to
order
the
Winooski
city
council
meeting.
It
is
6
20
p.m.
On
Monday
October
3rd,
let's
we
have
a
gender
review.
First.
Are
there
any
questions
concerns
about
the
order
of
this
evening's
agenda?
A
A
A
He
said
my
comment:
is
this
I
find
it
very
interesting
that
you
say
the
Pledge
before
starting
a
council
meeting
with
school
students
in
K-12
aren't
allowed
to
start
their
day
with
the
same
Pledge
of
Allegiance?
Why
is
this
I'm,
given
that
she's,
not
here
I,
can
follow
up
with
her
and
let
her
know
that
her
questions
about
the
school
operations
should
be
directed
to
the
school
board
that
we
can't
really
respond
on
that
and
I
know.
We
have
somebody
here
in
the
audience
for
public
comment.
If
you
want
to
come
up
and
introduce
yourself.
L
A
G
A
D
L
Yes,
of
course,
so
I
believe
in
equity
through
action,
especially
I
do
believe
that
money
is
one
of
the
biggest
gateways
and
how
we
allocate
them
and
where
we
allocate
them
need
to
be
Equitable
so
that
we
can,
you
know
in
essence,
really
raise
our
community
up
so
that
we
can
all
thrive
in
winners,
because
you
know,
when
is
he
needs
to
thrive,
because
it's
an
amazing
place.
So
that's
part
of
what
drew
me
I
really
do
believe
in
Community
Action
Community
work.
That
is
something
that
I've
done
through
my
work
as
a
content.
L
Creator
I
was
part
of
vermontcast
and
I've,
been
to
several
of
the
Centennial
events,
didn't
make
it
in
time
before,
for
montcast
switched
switched
up,
their
processes
but
and
I
also
have
had
a
past
since
I
was
about
16
working
in
finance,
I
used
to
volunteer
to
help
low-income
residents
with
their
taxes
in
undergrad,
I
did
inclusion
work
as
well
as
Financial
work,
and
so
it's
just
something
that
I've
been
doing
I
feel
like
I,
can
add
and
I.
You
know:
I
love,
the
new
skin
part
of
anusky
join.
L
A
A
G
A
Sorry
we
can
move
to
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
our
Council
minutes
from
9
19.
accounts
payable
Aurora
from
9
29
payroll
warrant
from
9
4
to
17.
the
21c
Grant
approval.
That's
a
long-standing
thing.
We
are
renewing
authorizing
an
official
resolution
to
accept
the
northern
border,
Regional
Commission,
grant
that
we
were
notified
about
a
while
back
and
then
the
event
permit
for
their
annual
Halloween.
J
A
J
Sure,
because
I
actually
want
to
speak
about
one
of
the
items,
that's
on
the
consent
agenda,
so
Halloween
celebrations
are
coming
up
and
I.
Think,
as
everybody
knows,
we
Winooski
has
all
the
pumpkins
in
the
circle,
which
is
always
fun
and
beautiful.
However,
that
takes
a
lot
of
volunteers
to
carve
out
those
pumpkins
get
them
ready
light
them
all
of
that
shebang.
So
anybody
who
is
interested
in
volunteering
volunteers
are
definitely
wanted.
J
E
You
so
the
Housing
Commission
met
last
Monday
and
spent
the
majority
of
its
time
discussing
the
question
we
posed
around
whether
to
prioritize
housing,
quality
work
through
the
public
building
registry
or
just
cause
eviction
or
some
other
form
of
eviction.
Protection
work
for
the
discussions
we've
had
over
the
last
couple
months.
E
Ultimately,
they
decided
that
there's
an
existing
work
plan
with
resources
allocated
to
support
the
housing
quality
work
and
that
didn't
feel
they
did
not
feel
that
they
were
adequately
set
up
to
succeed
on
the
timeline
of
a
town
meeting
day
ballot
item
for
Just
Cause
eviction,
Charter
change.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
other
ways
to
still
then
support
to
the
effort,
and
there
was
I
think
interest
in
continuing
to
discuss
that
and
in
providing
some
form
of
support
for
Statewide
efforts.
E
So
the
commission
is
interested
in
also
continuing
to
discuss
some
form
of
addiction
protection,
either
advocacy
or
actual
change
alongside
the
public
building
registry
housing
quality
work,
but
the
the
primary
the
priority
for
the
Housing
Commission.
The
recommendation
back
to
us
is
to
focus
on
housing
quality.
A
With
us
on,
affordable,
affordable
home
internet
access
programs,
and
so
there's
like
this
Internet
Essentials
thing
where
you
can
get
free
or
10
a
month
internet
at
home,
when
we
were
doing
arpa
listening
sessions,
we
heard
from
residents
about
how
it
wasn't
good
enough
to
support
kids.
We
shared
that
with
them.
A
We
heard
from
them
that
they
have
since
increased
the
speeds
to
some
degree
and
are
having
a
follow-up
contact
with
Comcast
to
get
materials
that
we
can
help
push
out
to
the
community,
but
also
to
connect
them
with
other
service
providers
in
winnewski
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
about
access
to
these
programs
to
make
sure
everyone
is
connected.
They.
C
D
D
D
So
looking
forward
to
doing
some
recognition
work
with
on
that
the
chicken
salad
waste
District
met
last
week,
we
will
have
a
presentation
here
in
a
moment
from
the
staff
on
the
news
pool
on
the
material
recovery
facility
and
the
bond
vote
for
that.
That's
on
the
ballot
for
November
and
at
the
meeting
the
board
also
approved
the
executive
director
to
move
forward
with
exploring
a
rental
agreement
for
administrative
offices.
G
All
right
so
this
coming
week,
so
on
Tuesday
October
11th
at
6
30,
there
will
be
a
meeting
of
the
safe,
healthy,
connected
people
meeting.
A
commission
will
be
primarily
reviewing
the
and
recommending
awards
for
the
covid-19
recovery
non-profit
grant
program,
so
hopefully
once
that
will
then
be
on
the
following
council
meeting.
If
everything
goes
well.
G
So
if
anyone
wants
to
join
that
again
is
on
zoom
on
Thursday
October
13th.
We
have
the
second
meeting
of
the
Winooski
commission
for
inclusion
and
belonging
that
is
going
to
be
held
in
person
at
6
PM
pm
at
the
O'brien
Community
Center.
So
if
anyone
wants
to
join
us,
that's
where
we'll
be
that's
it.
Thank.
F
So
a
lot
of
repeats
from
last
time
a
covid
Wastewater
detection
Trends
are
still
well
actually
last
week
they
were
unknown,
but
previous
to
that
they
were
increasing.
So
please
do
mask
up,
get
your
free
tests
from
the
city.
You
can
get
them
at
the
city,
clerk's
office
at
the
library
or
the
senior
center,
and
you
can
get
your
bivalent
vaccine,
which
should
protect
you
against
the
current
variants
that
are
circulating
to
find
a
walk-in
clinic
near
you
visit
healthvermont.gov,
covid,
hyphen,
19,
slash
vaccine
or
just
call
2-1-1
boarding.
F
Commission
seats
are
currently
open.
Winooski's
commission
for
inclusion
and
belonging
town
meeting
TV
trustee,
Finance,
commission,
Municipal
infrastructure,
commission
and
safe
healthy
connected
people
commission
to
learn
more
and
apply.
Please
visit
our
news,
Upstate
updates,
section
section
at
Winooski
vt.gov
or
give
us
a
call
at
802-655-6410.
F
Please
consider
serving
Winooski
through
Americorps
on
Recreation
operations.
You
can
learn
more
and
apply
at
winnewski.wanuskyvt.gov
jobs.
The
November
election
is
coming
right
up.
If
you're
not
yet
registered
to
vote.
Remember
you
can
register
all
the
way
up
to
the
same
day
at
the
polls
or
you
can
register
in
advance,
which
is
a
little
easier
on
the
clerks.
You
can
visit
winooskievt.gov
Vote
or
come
to
the
clerk's
office.
F
Applications
are
available
in
English,
Arabic,
Burmese,
French,
Nepali,
Pashto,
Somali,
Swahili
and
Vietnamese
spoken
language
support
and
application
support
is
available
through
the
Loan
program
administrator
opportunities.
Credit
Union.
You
can
stop
in
at
their
branch
in
downtown
Winooski
at
25,
unuski,
Falls,
Way.
A
A
M
A
C
M
M
M
M
Director
of
communications
and
I
appreciate
the
time
where
I'm,
just
wanting
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
this
special
election
vote
that
chip
and
solid
waste
district
has
on
the
election.
November
8th,
you
can
early
vote,
but
it's
a
little
different.
We
weren't
eligible
to
have
our
bond
issue
included
in
the
general
election
ballot,
so
we're
trying
to
get
the
word
out.
So
everybody
knows
about
this
initiative
why
our
board
has
decided.
M
M
District
created
by
Our
member
towns
and
cities,
we
are
exist
just
to
manage
solid
waste
and
local
and
state
mandates
around
solid
waste.
We
have
facilities
and
services
around
Chittenden
County,
including
last
but
not
least,
the
materials
recovery
facility
which
handles
actually
about
half
of
the
recyclables.
What
we
call
blue
bin
recyclables
generated
in
the
state
of
Vermont
at
that
facility.
So
what
is
a
Murph
I
just
described
that
it
sorts
and
processes
those
believe
in
recyclables
for
end
markets?
The
current
one
was
built
about
30
years
ago.
M
So
I
took
this
picture
on
after
about
three
days
when
the
Baler
broke
in
the
current
or
if
the
Baler,
we
call
the
heartbeat
of
the
facility,
because
it
takes
all
these
streams
and
it
turns
them
into
cubes
that
can
be
put
onto
trucks
and
sent
to
markets.
When
that
Bailer
breaks.
We
are
dead
in
the
water
and
this
is
what
happens,
the
the
pile
that's
behind
the
person
shown.
M
There
is
typically
what
you
see
on
this
tip
floor
this
area,
but
this
is
what
it
looked
like
after
just
three
days,
so
the
equipment
is
older.
We
have
since
replaced
that
Baler,
but
we
have
just
one.
So
we
can't
bat,
we
don't
have
any
backup
for
that.
The
facility
is
as
large
as
it
can
be,
given
the
footprint
it's
at
maximum
capacity,
and
it
just
cannot
so
other
reasons.
We
need
one
there's,
no
flexibility.
M
So
if,
for
instance,
markets
for
a
certain
material
were
a
little
soft,
we
cannot
wait
those
markets
out
because
there's
no
space
to
hold
on
to
the
material
as
soon
as
we
have
it
failed
or
processed.
We
need
to
move
it.
It
was
built
to
handle
25
000
tons
of
materials
a
year.
It's
currently
processing
about
47,
000
tons,
so
nearly
double
what
it
was
designed
for.
M
We
anticipate
needing
capacity
of
about
50
70
000
tons.
Actually,
so
it's
currently
limiting,
potentially
the
amount
that
vermonters
can
recycle.
What
you
see
in
this
picture
here
is
the
current
state
of
the
Sorting
that
happens
at
this
facility.
It's
hand
sorting
by
people
whose
job
it
is
to
stand
there
and
sort
through
that
material
and
pick
out
the
type
of
container
or
material
that
can
be
sorted
so
because
it's
inefficient
and
people
just
aren't
as
good
as
machines.
M
Frankly,
at
doing
this
kind
of
sorting,
we
are
losing
some
valuable
recyclables
because
they
just
make
mistakes
as
humans
do
so
the
last
bit.
That
tells
you
why
we
need
this
new
facility
is
the
limited
storage.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
just
don't
have
any
space.
This
is
a
picture
of
bailed
materials
sitting
outside
which
is
not
good
because
it
sunlight
as
well
as
Vermont
weather,
makes
the
material
less
valuable,
degrades
the
material
which
reduces
the
quality
and
hence
the
value
of
what
we're
trying
to
sell.
M
It
also
hampers
flexibility
as
I
mentioned
previously.
If
we
wanted
to
ride
out
a
soft
time
in
the
markets,
we
can't
because
we
just
don't
have
space.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
new
facility
that
we
need
on
this
slide.
It
shows
the
current
square
footage
of
the
current
murf,
and
that
would
be
compared
with
what
we're
proposing
to
build.
The
location
is
still
in
Williston,
which
is
where
the
current
Murph
is
located.
C
M
Be
that
Optical
disorders
and
Eddie
currents,
so
Optical
sorters
this
machine,
that's
shown
here.
The
orange
machine
material
would
flow
underneath
that
and
it
would
actually
ping
infrared
laser
off
of
that
and
very
very
high
quality
cameras
would
take
a
picture
of
the
materials
and
then
a
puff
of
air
could
blow
the
material
that
was
identified
into
the
correct
bin.
M
These
sorters
can
pick
I
believe
it's
something
like
600
items
per
minute
and
I,
don't
know
about
you,
but
my
hands
couldn't
move
that
fast
for
sure.
If
I
were
doing
human
sorting
on
those
materials,
this
kind
of
sorting
is
essential
for
meeting
the
quality
standards
that
today's
markets
demand
and
it
can
help
alleviate
labor
shortages.
If
we're
having
trouble
Staffing
a
certain
area,
these
machines
can
help
with
that
and
the
humans
that
would
have
the
jobs.
M
There
would
be
deployed
to
things
that
humans
do
better,
which
is
quality
control
and
that
sort
of
thing
capacity
benefits.
The
more
square
footage
equals
a
higher
quality
output,
because
you
have
more
space,
you
can
space
out
the
conveyors
and
you
don't
have
the
material
piled
deeply
and
unable
to
be
seen?
M
We
have
to
send
that
out
of
state
to
me
for
the
process,
so
this
would
all
be
indoors
preparing
for
the
future.
This
is
again
Machinery.
That
is
what
the
vendor
that
we've
selected
provides.
It
would
be
40
more
capacity
so
equipping
on
us
for
the
next
30
years
of
processing,
and
that
would
give
us
the
ability
to
adapt
to
evolving
packaging
equals,
removing
more
valuable
materials
from
the
waste
stream.
M
Environmental
benefits
include
continuing
to
preserve
dwindling,
Lin
dull
space,
we're
down
to
one
landfill
in
Vermont
and,
as
I
mentioned,
it
would
process
up
to
70
000
tons
of
materials
a
year
and
the
more
you
recycle
by
keeping
that
material
in
circulation,
you're,
preventing
finite
natural
resources
from
being
mined
trees
from
being
cut
and
all
the
other
benefits
to
reducing
climate
change
impacts
such
as
carbon
emissions
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
coming
down
to
the
last
and
certainly
very
high.
In
indeed,
list
of
importance
is
the
benefits
for
the
workers.
M
Better
lit
more
spacious
and
better
ventilation.
This
is
going
to
be
funded
by
a
bond
and
that's
the
vote
that
I'm
going
to
mention
in
a
minute
talk
about
in
a
minute.
We
would
go
to
bond
for
16
million
dollars.
We
are
getting
a
zero
percent
interest
loan
from
the
closed
loop
fund
for
six
million
dollars.
We
have
three
and
a
half
million
in
cash
that
we
would
contribute
and
we're
anticipating.
M
We
will
certainly
be
applying
to
the
EPA
for
grant
funding
that
has
just
opened
this
month
to
reduce
the
amount
that
we
would
be
contributing
and
then
there's
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
recycling
partnership
in
the
form
of
a
grant.
We
would
repay
that
loan
or
the
loans
over
25
years
from
the
Murph
operations
operational
Revenue.
M
Now,
by
going
to
the
my
voter
page
and
requesting
the
cswd
ballot,
you
can
call
or
visit
the
town
clerk's
office
to
pick
it
up
and
all
polling
places
in
Chittenden
County
will
have
the
cswd
ballot
on
hand
for
voting.
That
is
the
end
of
my
presentation.
If
I
don't
mess,
this
up,
I
can
stop.
Screen.
Sharing
and
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
M
J
J
A
D
Yeah
so
I
serve
as
the
commissioner
from
Winooski
to
the
kenned
solid
waste
District
board
just
for
context
they're.
The
staff
has
put
in
years
of
effort
into
getting
to
this
point,
have
hired
Consultants
to
advise
the
board
and
the
staff
on
the
best
course
of
action
from
gutting
the
existing
facility
and
re
reorganizing,
the
layout
to
building
new
as
well
as
locations.
So
there's
been
quite
extensive
work
on
this
and
just
really
proud
to
see
it
get
to
this
point.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
O
C
O
O
L
O
Now
we
are
seen
not
just
on
the
TV
channel
Comcast
1087,
Comcast,
7,
BT,
17
and
217,
but
also
make
all
of
our
content
available
on
a
YouTube
platform,
make
all
of
our
content
available
on
our
own
web
platform,
which
is
really
important,
and
then
you
know,
have
increased
or
sort
of
our
Outreach
and
marketing
efforts
as
well.
So,
for
example,
the
municipal
update
that
Elaine
Wang
gave
tonight
is
excerpted
from
the
meeting,
and
we
share
that
with
the
community
in
various
ways
as
well.
O
O
it's
outlined
in
the
chart
below,
and
then
this
also
includes
just
our
general
update
of
what
we
have
done
in
this
last
fiscal
year.
22.
it
gets
a
little
confusing
because
our
fiscal
year
crosses
your
fiscal
year
in
a
funny
way,
so
we're
just
entering
our
fiscal
year
23
and
asking
for
a
contribution
from
your
fiscal
year,
24.,
so
I'm
going
to
pause
there
and
just
see
if
there
are
any
questions.
O
O
O
We
use
results-based
accountability
to
develop
that
and
then
town
meeting
TV
has
a
contract.
The
trustees
will
review
annually
and
we're
about
to
come
up
for
a
review
of
the
contract,
and
that's
the
closest
probably
to
the
Strategic
plan
that
Tom
meeting
TV
would
have.
Is
that
contract
of
services
and
I'm
curious?
Now
that
you
say
that
I'm
curious,
I
I
can
see
if
it's
on
our
website,
the
contract
may
or
may
not
be
so.
D
It
would
be
interesting
because
you
mentioned
just
in
your
opening
comments:
yeah
efforts
to
expand
user
and
viewership,
but
I
don't
even
know
what
the
Baseline
is,
or
you
know
year
over
year
month
over
month,
goals
are
yeah
for
that.
So
it's
just
seems
like
a
if
you
had
something
like
that
to
share
that
would
be
of
interest
I.
O
D
O
Yeah,
so
we
can
measure,
we
can't
measure
cable
views,
because
that's
proprietary
information
that
if
the
cable
company
does
track
it
doesn't
they
won't
share
that
with
us.
The
only
approximation
we
can
have
of
use
of
meetings
or
any
of
our
coverage
is
on
our
YouTube
channel.
So
we
can
extrapolate
it's
kind
of
useful,
so
we
can
extrapolate
from
that.
D
G
Oh
yeah,
oh
yeah,
many
hundred
thousand
and
I'm
just
wondering
is
that
CCTV,
because
then
I
also
see
you
quoting
in
here
about
your
projected
expenses
for
fy23.
So
I
was
wondering
what
happens
if
you
do
get
that
money
from
the
legislature
and
what
you're
asking
for
the
municipalities
you
work
with
to.
O
Contribute
so
it's
worth
it's
worth,
pausing
on
that
and
the
handout
that
I
gave
you.
It
comes
from
the
Vermont,
Access
Network,
so
town
meeting
TV
is
part
of
a
network
of
access
centers
around
the
state.
There
are
24
of
us
now
there
used
to
be
25
and
then
the
media
Factory,
which
is
was
vcam
and
retn
they've
merged
in
the
south
end,
and
they
provide
public
and
educational
access.
O
So
just
a
funny
little
thing
that
there's
multiple
of
us
in
the
same
Community
doing
various
somewhat
similar
things,
but
also
it's
a
pretty
distinct
cultures
and
pretty
distinct
coverage.
So
those
24
access
centers
have
as
close
as
we
can
call
it.
A
trade
Association,
the
Vermont
Access
Network,
there's
no
paid
staff,
I
think
maybe
about
to
have
a
part-time
paid
staff
and
since
2018
that
those
folks
have
been
working
with
action
circles,
doing
work
in
legislative
advocacy
around
replacing
cable
funding.
O
So
all
of
that
meeting
coverage,
Public
Access
educational
access
is
paid
for
by
cable
subscribers.
You
buy
cable,
you
pay
a
peg
fee
that
Peg
fee
is
then
given
to
access
management
organizations
that
leverage
that
for
the
public
good
and
that's
exchange
for
the
public
rights
of
way
as
cable
subscribers
decline.
O
These
services
are
both
increasing
people
want
more
of
them.
They
want
more
Technical
Services
as
you've
seen
and
the
cost
to
do.
Those
is
increasing
and
our
revenue
is
declining
across
the
state.
So
we
are
looking
working
with
the
legislature
to
craft
new
legislation
to
fund
cable
overall
and
easiest
way
to
think
about.
It
is
FY
23
there
was
a
900
000
outlay.
It
came
in
two
chunks,
a
budget
adjustment
in
FY
22
and
an
FY
23,
and
that
900
000
was
distributed
across
the
state
to
this
24
access
centers.
O
O
And
even
then
you
know
it's
still
a
portion
of
the
cup
of
the
it's
replacing
a
portion.
It
will
not
replace
all
of
the
cable
dollars,
which
is
why
we
need
to
continue
to
ask
for
support
from
municipalities
and
continue
to
do
fundraising,
community-based
fundraising,
to
do
the
work
that
we
do
and
grants.
A
O
O
O
O
Oh
I
just
want
to
admit
I
I
think
as
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous
speaking
in
front
of
people
and
I
really
should
have
called
out
Jordan
Mitchell,
who
has
joined
us
and
Kevin
harms.
Who
is
here
who
you
all
know,
and
does
this
work,
because
the
other
thing
about
doing
this
kind
of
technical
work
in
a
time
when
everybody
is
exhausted
by
their
use
of
Technology?
You
know
it
follows
us
around
all
the
time.
P
You
create
content,
create
shows
that
were
meaningful
to
them
and
that's
really
how
I
got
my
start
at
town
meeting
TV
her
Channel.
What
was
on
channel
17
and
then
now
in
my
current
role,
you
know
being
able
to
either
go
to
Municipal
meetings
and
record
them
and
make
them
available
to
the
public
or
a
lot
of
what
I've
been
doing
more
recently.
P
Is
you
know
the
scheduling
and
the
organizing
to
make
sure
that
you
know
field
producers
such
as
Kevin
are
at
those
events
and
that
if
they're
live
streaming
to
YouTube
and
that
you
know
everything's
working
as
it
should,
you
know
it's
just
a
really
valuable
resource,
which
is
a
part
of
why
I
love
the
job.
You
know
it's
I,
see
the
value
of
what
we
do
in
the
community
and
it's
how
it's
appreciated,
which
is
really
great.
O
And
to
not
not
to
under
underscore
one
of
the
things
that
Jordan's
brought
is
she's
working
as
our
archivist
right
now
and
that's
another
resource
that
we
provide
to
the
community
is
Jordan
has
been
digitizing
content
that
goes
back
into
the
ages,
but
also
providing
this
archival
resource
of
video
content.
In
a
time
when
you
know
For,
Better
or
For,
Worse
minutes
of
meetings
are
not
always
sufficient.
A
Watch
yeah,
I
I
do
want
to
express
an
appreciation
for
the
service
that
Tommy
TV
provides
in
helping
create
that
more
detailed
record.
Then
reading
minutes
could
give
you
helping
us
with
this,
continue
the
hybrid
access
and
even
before
that,
just
being
able
to
stream
and
have
people
access
from
home
at
their
convenience.
A
Also
for
some
more
background
for
my
newer
counselors,
you
know
in
FY
20
there
was
this
doubling
of
the
the
contribution
request
and
you
all
worked
with
us.
We
weren't
able
to
to
meet
that
Gap
at
the
time,
and
so
we
have
been
doing
this
one
thousand
dollar
annual,
Step,
Up
and
I-
guess
technically
still
aren't
meeting
the
threshold
of
what
you
had
initially
requested
from
us.
But
having
that
flexibility
has
been
really
helpful,
given
you
know
the
limited
resources
we
have
here.
A
O
C
A
Yeah
and
if
there
is
an
organization
or
event
that
you
know
about
somebody
else,
you
know
it's
not
a
city
thing.
We
can
actually
provide
contact
information
to
someone
at
town
meeting
TV.
So
if
somebody
else
is
like,
let
me
invite
somebody
and
I
want
to
get
this
covered.
We
can
help
facilitate
that
I.
O
C
O
O
O
D
O
O
H
O
C
O
F
O
F
A
O
A
A
F
F
N
N
N
Bit
more
given
the
conditions
of
some
of
the
roadways
out
there,
so
this
is
on
the
line,
striping
piece.
This
is
a
request
for
an
additional
forty
six
thousand
dollars
and
we
would
utilize
the
existing
budget,
twelve
thousand
dollars
for
contract
painting
work.
This
would
be
an
epoxy
paint
material,
so
you
know
we
should
get
at
least
two
or
three
seasons
out
of
it
versus
the
you
know,
the
water
base
that
we
typically
use
that
gets
plowed
up.
You
know,
after
during
the
winter
season.
E
P
N
G
A
N
H
N
N
N
C
N
A
Q
N
A
N
D
N
A
N
Yeah
I
mean
potentially
we
can
talk
about
that
with
the
contractor,
so
we
could
hold
off
so
the
problem
would
be.
We
would
have
to
hold
off
until
spring
to
do
the
water-based
paints,
and
you
know,
I'd
really
prefer
to
get
those
crosswalks
in
as
soon
as
you
can
just
because
they
are,
they
are
pretty
faded,
so
I
can
chat
with
the
contractor
to
see
if
that
might
be
feasible,
but
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
gonna,
you
know,
if
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
those
crosswalks
painted
properly.
F
N
E
No
say
from
an
impact
for
school
safety:
it's
the
most
impactful
having
almost
been
hit
by
cars
in
daylight,
with
kids
and
a
crossing
guard
on
that
strip
like
once
it's
dark
once
it's
winter,
that's
going
to
be
even
more
necessary.
So
it
is
a
shame
to
potentially
rip
it
up
in
six
months,
but
I
think
it's
worth
the
the
benefit
we'll
get
in
those
six
months.
So.
A
A
N
Plan
is
get
it
on
a
rotation,
so
we're
doing
one
Gateway
or
the
downtown
once
a
year,
and
we
just
circle
back
to
it.
That's
that's
kind
of
where
we're
heading
right
now
and
I
will
say,
especially
with
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
new
like.
If
you
look
at
East,
Allen
Street
right
now,
and
what
vitrans
will
be
painting,
you
know,
there's
some
added
bike
lane
features
and
that
that's
starting
to
get
a
lot
a
bit
out
of
our
internal
comfort
zone
for
painting.
M
N
N
G
As
someone
who
lived
recently
at
that
Main
Street
taigan
Norman
Street
area,
it
so
desperately
needs
it
and
just
second
again
yeah,
it's
so
dangerous
they're
actually
coming
into
at
that
turn.
There
are
so
many
cars
who
go
in
the
wrong
lane
because
they
don't
know
for
your
Valentine's
just
hear
a
crunch
in
the
distance,
so
I
would
definitely
be
for
putting
those
in
to
be
safe
than
being
concerned
over
them,
potentially
being
taken
out
before
they're
fully
gone.
C
E
John
I
almost
hate
to
bring
this
up,
but
the
crossing
at
Norman's
will
not
be
painted
right
and
I
know.
There
was
a
conscious
decision
to
not
maintain
that
cross
water
I'm
wondering
if
you
would,
if
that's
been
reconsidered,
or
that
still
seems
like
the
best
approach
for
pedestrian
traffic
management
at
that
intersection.
Given
people
are
still
using
that
as
a
crosswalk,
whether
it's
painted
or
not,.
H
N
With
Main
Street
there's
going
to
be
I
forget
the
actual
number
of
additional
crosswalks,
but
we're
you
know
we're
obviously
adding
you
know
quite
a
few
new
crosswalks
and
some
mid
block
Crossings
with
the
rapid
flash
beacons.
So
there
will
be
more
opportunities
to
be
able
to
cross
mean
Street
safely,
but
I
think
more
than
likely.
You
know,
kids
are
still
going
to
cross
the
Ben
Martin
Street
crosswalk,
regardless
so
yeah.
G
G
N
F
C
F
Vlct
can
mean
to
municipalities
to
discuss
a
report.
They
would
use
to
Lobby
the
legislature
as
to
the
benefits
and
outcomes
of
Vermont's
existing
Tif
districts.
The
LCT
says
that
all
those
present,
including
Winooski,
agreed
to
contribute
or
bring
a
request
to
their
elected
bodies.
The
LCT
requested
Winooski
contribute
four
thousand
dollars
towards
that
report.
They
developed
that
may
have
helped
head
off
changes
to
the
Tiff
program.
Winooski
wouldn't
have
wanted
John
represented
Winooski
during
that
meeting,
given
that
Burlington
and
South
Burlington
were
only
asked
to
contribute
one
thousand
dollars.
F
Ted
tells
me
that
several
the
other
communities
have
paid
their
full
Freight
fairy
City
Montpelier,
Newport,
South,
Burlington
and
Saint
almonds
Burlington
intends
to-
and
he
has
not
heard
yet
from
Bennington,
Harford
and
Milton
and
of
course
us
yet
and
Ted
is
here.
If
you
have
questions
for
him
or
if
you'd
like
to
allow
him
to
make
a
statement.
A
R
Absolutely
well
thanks
for
having
me
it's
nice
to
see.
All
of
you.
Sorry,
you
couldn't
be
there
in
person.
The
impetus
behind
the
tip
report
was,
after
about
four
years
of
an
attempt
to
expand
the
tax
increment
financing
program.
As
you
may
know,
it
was
expanded
in
2000
and
16
I
believe
and
after
many
years
we're
trying
to
expand
it
further
and
make
sure
that
it
was
available
to
more
communities.
R
We
decided
the
league
that
we
had
to
do
something
and
bring
new
information
to
the
table,
to
talk
about
tip
in
Montpelier
in
the
State
House
they're,
very
skeptical,
of
Tiff's
Effectiveness
in
our
communities.
You
folks
being
a
prime
example
Saint
Albans
and
several
others
Burlington
have
seen
some
great
successes
from
Tiffany.
R
So
we
wanted
to
tell
that
story
in
a
way
that
wasn't
just
anecdotal,
and
so
we
hired
a
researcher
out
of
the
University
of
Wisconsin
in
partnership
with
the
center
on
Rural
Innovation,
which
is
a
group
out
of
Hartford
Vermont,
and
that
done,
you
may
know.
Matt
Dunn
manages
that
program
and
we
commissioned
this
report
to
drop
during
the
legislative
session
in
hopes
of
providing
new
information
about
the
tax
increment
financing
program.
R
In
the
end,
it
did
it
had
nine
findings,
all
of
which
provided
some
new
information.
I
showed
us
that
Tiff,
the
tip
policy
in
Vermont
is
meeting
the
state's
community
in
Economic
Development.
Our
goals
Tiff
serves
as
a
powerful
long-term
planning
tool
and
a
state
that
doesn't
have
many
long-term
planning
tools
for
economic
development.
It
also
found
the
measuring
tip
of
districts.
Performance
is
complicated.
It
found
that
the
revenue
stories
equally
as
complex,
so
it
didn't
give
us
the
the
kind
of
tight
fisted
punch.
R
We
were
hoping
for
on
on
those
two,
but
I
did
find
the
Tiff
generated
a
clear
rate
of
economic
growth
that
hasn't
been
recognized.
In
previous
analysis.
That
forecasting
the
rate
of
tip
is
complicated.
The
tip
produces
conditions
that
allow
communities
to
leverage
other
assistance
of
you
folks
certainly
know,
and
all
the
grants
you've
managed
to
secure
as
a
result
of
the
tip
and
then
the
combination
of
the
safeguards
built
in
the
Tiff
maximize
its
Effectiveness
and
compared
to
other
tip
other
sorry,
Economic
Development
programs.
R
Tiff,
is
one
of
the
most
a
comprehensive
and
effective
Economic
Development
tools,
so
that
landed
in
the
legislature
right
when
they
were
talking
about
limiting
the
number
of
tips
further.
Restricting
the
number
of
tips
to
the
point
where
you'd
have
to
go
to
the
legislature
to
actually
get
a
tax
increment
financing,
District
approved
for
the
last
several
years,
there's
been
an
allocation
of
tax,
increment
financing
districts,
the
restrictions
that
there
were
proposed
restrictions
on
what
you
could
use
tip
for
and
in
the
end
we
managed
to
keep
the
status
quo
on
tax
increment
financing.
R
For
the
current
time
being
I,
anticipate
tip
will
be
the
topic
of
much
conversation
going
forward
and
I
hope.
This
report
provides
it.
So
we
we
came
and
offered
we.
We
came
and
offered
to
do
this
work
for
the
Tiff
communities.
After
that
meeting,
we
fronted
the
funding
and,
as
Elaine
said,
relied
on
the
communities
to
go
back
and
the
representatives
from
those
communities
to
go
back
and
either
allocate
the
funding.
A
Thank
you,
Ted
I,
think
to
your
point.
It
has
been
a
very
successful
tool
here
in
Winooski.
I
would
love
to
see
it
available
to
other.
You
know,
cities
and
towns
in
Vermont.
Is
there
additional
funding
source
or
are
these
listed
communities?
Are
we
paying
like
we're
paying
for
this
whole
report
effort.
R
A
R
R
D
R
R
When
you
look
at
Winooski
Winooski
is
the
second
largest
beneficiary
of
Tiff.
When
you
look
at
Grand
list
growth
with
their
Tiff,
and
so
it
seems,
it
would
seem
unfair
to
charge
the
greatest
beneficiary
less
than
a
community
that
has
10
000,
but
only
benefited
and
a
few
million
dollars
of
grandless
growth
from
tip.
R
R
Yes,
how
to
balance
all
those
wonderful
numbers,
I
I,
don't
pretend
for
a
moment
that
what
we
did
was
perfect,
but
I
do
think
it
was
well
fair
and
Equitable
and
to
what
Elaine
has
brought
to
you,
the
the
invoice
or
the
letter
asking
for
payment
said.
If
you
disagree
with
this
number,
please
share.
You
know
anything
anything
that
you
folks
don't
pay
is
going
to
be
distributed
across
the
membership
as
a
whole
and
impact
all
vlct
members,
which
is
every
city
in
town
in
the
state.
R
R
A
F
F
I'll
just
do
an
intro,
and
then
you
can
tack
on
if
I'm
missing
anything
so
of
the
cyber
security
measures
we
could
take.
Multi-Factor
authentication
is
among
the
most
important,
or
at
least
among
the
more
important,
if
you
do
need
more
explanation,
I'm
happy
to
provide
that
one-on-one,
but
frankly,
I'd
rather
not
go
into
the
details
and
archived
public
forum.
Q
A
A
D
A
K
K
To
present
the
quarterly
update
here
on
behalf
of
myself
and
the
Chiefs
and
a
little
bit
on
behalf
of
Jesse
from
HR
who
had
a
item
here,
you
know
I
think
overall,
pretty
straightforward,
I
think
the
one
area,
obviously
in
red
was
that
public
health
huddle,
which
I
mentioned
based
on
some
feedback
from
Community
Partners.
There
was
a
desire
to
sort
of
recenter
community
and
voices
community-based.
K
Of
color
running
those
meetings
versus
a
bunch
of
government
officials
and
I
think,
unfortunately,
in
making
that
shift,
we've
sort
of
fallen
off
a
little
bit
so
definitely
very
much
still
in
touch
with
those
Partners,
but
not
in
that
kind
of
formalized
structured
way
that
we
had
been
kind
of
during
the
main
throws
of
of
covid.
So
definitely
we'll
see
if
that
comes
back
around
here
as
the
winter
comes
at
us,
but
that
was
really
the
one
area.
I
think
we're
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
some
I
guess
up.
K
To
note,
add
it
in
here,
at
the
very
end,
some
operational
updates
from
the
pool
from
this
summer.
This
felt
like
a
good
spot,
to
plug
some
of
that
in
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
You
know
specifically
on
that
as
well,
but
overall
I
think
a
pretty
pretty
good
report
for
the
first
quarter
and
feel
pretty
excited
about.
What's
here.
A
K
Sure
so
sorry,
I'm
just
scrolling
down
I,
mean
I.
Think
broad,
summary
statement
really
good
summer
overall
definitely
saw
an
increase
in
usage
in
terms
of
season
passes
and
certainly
in
terms
of
usership
I
will
say:
I
think
the
the
user
data
sort
of
that
that
estimated
number
of
users,
the
numbers
last
year
I
think
were
not
as
accurate
as
they
are
this
year.
K
I
think
our
our
data
systems
are
getting
better
and
better
as
we
as
we
move
on
and
so
I
think
not
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds,
but
the
way
that
we're
checking
in
season
pass
holders
is
more
accurate.
This
season
than
it
was
last
so
I
think
that's
one
reason
you
saw
that
large
jump
in
in
visits
we're
going
to
make
one
additional
tweak
in
the
coming
year,
so
we
again
may
see
that
number
jump
a
little
bit,
but
I
do
think.
K
K
Really
I,
like
feeling
feeling
super
proud
about
it
wanted
to
highlight.
Is
that
very
bottom
point,
but
we
had
over
950
individual
kiddos
past
the
water
swim
test
this
year,
which
you
know.
Obviously
the
pool
is
a
recreational
asset
and
we
want
to
have
people
in
there
having
fun
but
I.
Think
when
you
look
at
it
from
an
aquatic
safety
perspective,
especially.
H
K
D
I
want
to
extend
thanks
to
you
and
to
all
the
staff
that
supported
the
pool
and
the
success
this
year.
I
know
there
was
concerns
from
the
onset
about
getting
enough
staff
and
lifeguards.
A
lot
of
work
went
in
to
lead
up
to
that
and
then
just
continue
second
year
of
operations
and
kind
of
getting
the
hang
of
things.
D
A
K
Yeah
and
I
think
having
all
the
staff
working
for
the
same
agency.
You
know
certainly
nothing
against
the
Y
who
is
managing
lifeguards
last
year,
but
I
think
just
having
that
continuity
of
management
and
sort
of
expectations
across
the
staff
team
was
really
a
big
big
game.
Changer
this
year
and
kudos
to
Jason
Benjamin
too
from
Public
Works.
He.
H
K
G
K
Yeah,
we
definitely
had
a
much
increased
number
of
people
using
scholarships
this
summer
to
get
into
the
pool
and
I
think.
That's
also
why
you
see
a
little
bit
of
a
drop
in
some
of
the
the
day
pass
numbers,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
kiddos
that
were
coming
in
on
day
passes
last
year.
Families
were
able
to
get
season
passes
this
year,
and
so
I
do
think
that
really
helped
with
access
quite
a
bit,
which
was
also
a
really
nice
change
for
this
year.
J
K
Don't
know
if
this
will
be
a
trend,
but
I
will
say
last
summer
and
the
summer,
both
the
last
like
three
weeks
of
the
season,
the
number
of
non-residents
that
came
in
for
the
first
time
all
summer
and
were
like.
Oh
you
know,
I
haven't
been
here
before
and
had
a
great
time
and
we're
like
I'm,
totally
gonna
buy
a
pass
next
year.
K
D
A
A
D
K
And
Brent
I'll,
just
add
to
you,
know
I
think,
certainly
getting
a
slow
start
on
that
was
really
a
function
of
high
levels
of
programming
this
summer
you
know
I
think
as
as
our
as
our
programming
kind
of
winds
down
a
little
bit
during
the
school
year,
I
think
we
will
have
some
more
bandwidth
stopwise
to
kind
of
dig
into
the
child
care
piece
a
little
bit
more.
Just
that
first
quarter
was
between
the
pool
and
running
nine
weeks
of
summer
camp.
K
K
C
E
E
F
F
F
A
And
just
to
put
a
finer
point
on
it,
you
mentioned,
like
fire
service,
Emergency
Services.
You
know
between
that.
The
the
new
fire
truck
Regional
dispatch
school
resource
officer
like
there's
a
lot
of
strain
in
Public
Safety
in
general,
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
making
decisions
around
how
to
address,
amongst
all
the
other
bandwidth
of
things
that
we
want
to
do
in
the
community.
Yes,.
A
F
Yes,
so
reading
for
my
cover
sheet
members
of
the
public,
so
in
September
2021
city
council
approved
a
title
change
from
Communications
coordinator
to
Communications
manager
to
reflect
an
expansion
in
job
responsibilities.
That
change
did
not
come
with
any
compensation
increase.
The
communications
coordinator
position
had
been
designed
as
a
relatively
passive
one
to
push
information
out
that
was
provided
to
the
person
filling
it
as
a
manager.
The
person
filling
that
role,
Paul
CERN
developed
the
city's
rebranding
and
Associated
policy
with
that
brand
branding.
F
That
effort
included
implementing
that
brand
policy
across
City
departments,
which,
according
to
the
city's
position
classification
rubric,
could
have
earned
at
a
higher
job
classification
on
its
own
and
therefore
a
pay
increase
at
that
time.
Not
only
that
there
is
the
increasing
the
need
for
increasing
the
city's
capacity
to
deliver
on
its
key
goals
of
equity
and
inclusion,
using
Communications
and
dialogue
tools
that
are
new
to
the
city,
a
pulsar
and
has
learned
new
skills,
in
particular
qualitative
data
analysis.
F
That's
providing
some
of
that
capacity
for
dialogue
with
residents,
not
just
pushing
information
out,
and
that
is
where
the
city
is
better
able
to
take
in
information
in
an
unbiased
way.
So
he
does
have
interest
and
potential
for
increasing
the
city's
capacity
to
reach
more
of
our
community,
for
example,
those
with
limited
English
proficiency
by
managing
a
language
access
study,
supporting
the
development
of
a
language
access
policy
and
supporting
City
officials
to
implement
that
policy.
F
F
A
A
No
I
feel
like
I,
missed
some
of
that.
The
like
what
you
just
described
connects
back
to
feedback.
We
got
from
our
former
Equity
director
about
like
embedding
Equity
work
across
roles
and
not
sitting
with
one
person
right
so
hearing
like
this
role,
managing
language
access
that
makes
sense
and
that
that
that
should
live
with
a
Communications
person,
not
like
an
equity
director.
F
Enough,
that's
my
initial
reaction,
though
sure
there,
so
this
is
the
I
would
call
it
a
scope,
I
think
in
the
past
it
has
been
presented
to
you
as
the
description.
There
is
a
three-page
description
which
you
did
get
last
time.
That
I
would
say
is
different
in
in
substantive
ways.
You're
welcome
to
see
it
if
you'd,
like
generally,
we
try
to
keep
you
out
of
the
weeds
of.
F
E
I
did
interpret
the
changes,
go
to
be
slightly
like
to
be
an
elevation.
It
is
very
broad
but
I
think
like,
as
you
said,
mayor
the
way
that
it's
going
to
reflect
in
the
day-to-day
and
the
job
duties
of
which
I
see
is
different
than
the
scope.
I
think
makes
sense
and
I
guess
my
idea,
I
think
that
reflected
for
me.
D
G
D
D
I
just
think
about
the
the
frequency
of
of
the
change
and
basically
fostering
restlessness,
of
wanting
continued
annual
promotions
or
having
something
of
that
variety.
We,
you
know
just
approved
a
recent
Union
contract
and
thinking
like
when
I
think
of
a
director
position.
I
also
think
that
it
usually
comes
with
supervisory
components.
It
doesn't
sound
like
that's
part
of
this.
Is
that
correct.
F
A
F
Q
So
the
things
that
changed
about
this
position
I'm
one
of
the
two
people
who
reviews
the
positions
for
scoring
so
that
we
reduce
the
amount
of
bias
from
a
single
person
scoring
job
descriptions.
The
changes
from
the
previous
position
to
the
one
that
exists
today
was
the
addition
of
policy
development
that
impacts
Citywide
and
then,
additionally,
there
was
less
supervision
or
for
the
job.
Those
are
two
key
criteria
of
a
job
description
that
impact
where
it
scores
on
our
rubric,
not
all
of
our
division.
Director
level
positions
have
direct
reports.
Q
G
And
I
think
they're,
they're
I
do
see
and
I'm
glad
that
you
pointed
out
directly
I,
don't
I!
Think
I
might
have
missed
this
that
this
this
time
this
comes
with
a
changing
compensation
like
a
change
in
title
is
something
but
it's
not
as
big
and
acknowledging
I.
Think
like
the
work
that
he's
doing
so
he's
getting
the
change
in
title
to
acknowledge
that
work,
but
also
the
changing.
Q
F
And
read
that
I
mean
that's,
certainly
a
fair
question,
especially
to
a
new
manager.
So
I'd
say
that
you
know
there
I
was
seeing
I'm
seeing
this
increased
need
for
a
director.
It's
not
that
Paul
did
this
and
that,
if
he
was
not
feeling
a
need,
I
would
hope
that
I
wouldn't
be
in
front
of
you
asking
for
a
promotion
for
Paul.
This
is
a
need
for
a
direct,
a
communications
director
for
the
city,
I
I,
don't
know.
F
What's
what
to
predict
for
the
rest
of
the
positions
but
I'm,
not
necessarily
seeing
at
this
time
huge
well
I
shouldn't
say
that,
because
we're
I'm
about
to
underco
a
job
description,
review
of
all
the
leadership
team
members,
so
I
can't
promise
that
it
won't
be
in
front
of
you
for
something
else,
because
their
their
jobs
have
changed
over
time.
I
don't
even
know
the
last
time.
Most
of
them
were
reviewed
by
a.
C
Q
F
So
it's
been
four
years
then
so
there
there
might
be
some
others,
but
I
would
see
that
as
ketchup
and
then
going
forward.
We
would,
as
you
know,
the
manager
going
forward.
Hopefully
the
idea
would
definitely
be
to
make
sure
that
creep
was
not
happening
of
its
own
accord,
whether
it
was
strategic.
It
was
planned
and
matching
what
the
community
needs.
D
F
Q
Q
F
A
C
A
A
F
C
F
Is
addressing
a
building-wide
sprinkler
issue
that
has
affected
its
finances?
It's
not
an
upgrade
that
the
city
code
Department
required,
but
they
did
feel
it
would
help
them
avoid
unpredictable
expenses
and
temporary
displacements
of
tenants
in
the
future.
Well,
mahoking
has
requested
an
extension
of
their
interest
only
payment
period
by
three
years
from
now,
meaning
whenever
we'll
close
well,
they
would
close,
if
approved,
as
noted
by
the
when
you
see
Finance
director.
Approving
this
change
would
reduce
the
revenue.
Winooski
was
expecting
by
44
5
364
dollars
each
year
in
the
next
three
years.
F
Q
P
Q
C
A
A
F
Should
know
the
answer
to
your
question
since
you
have
a
question
about
it,
so
you
did
previously
approve
it.
It
was
to
a
slightly
different
configuration
of
partners
because
they
needed
more
financing
at
that
time
and
that
somehow
was
going
to
help
them,
but
they
have
since
secured
enough
money
for
the
current
partnership,
and
so
it
needed
that
tweak
in
who
was
being
granted.
F
If
you
want
to
see
the
org
chart,
it's
very
strange
because
it
has
all
almost
all
the
same
names
on
it,
but
the
town
attorney
or
City
attorney
rather
did
a
review.
It
and
say
said
the
previous
one
was
fine,
already
approved
by
Council
the
current
one.
This
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
Okay,
so
I've
actually
already
executed.
That.
A
G
G
G
Q
So
any
payments
they
make
now
are
going
to
go
against
their
crude
interest
until
they've
paid
off
the
accrued
interest
and
then
it'll
start
going
towards
principal
again.
In
the
meantime,
every
January
1st
we
accrue
five
percent
interest
on
whatever
principal
balance
is
outstanding,
so
per
their
letter.
They
do
anticipate
repaying
the
loans
within
three
to
four
years,
so
good
could
could
be
moot
if
they
actually
pre-pay
within
four
years
instead
of
another
20.
Q
So
for
the
next
year,
two
years,
this
is
within
the
Tiff
district
and
will
not
impact
tax
rates
in
FY
2025.
This
would
reduce
the
amount
of
money
that
was
anticipated
to
come
in
from
the
Tiff
District,
so
you
could
say
that
it
could
impact
the
tax
rates,
but
it
would
be
about
two-thirds
of
a
penny
on
the
tax
rate
at
the
current
brand
list,
value
that
we
wouldn't
be
bringing
in
and
if
Council
doesn't
fully
allocate
the
funding
coming
over
from
the
tip
District.
It
would
also
not
impact
the
tax.
A
A
A
Q
F
Sure
so,
just
forewarned
I
I'm,
going
to
talk
for
a
little
bit
for
the
benefit
of
any
watching
public.
So
next
meeting
or
actually
the
mayor
did
ask
that
Council
be
provided
an
overview
of
how
the
city
can
spend
some
unusual
money
because
that
context
might
affect
their.
Your
FY
24
budget
goals
that
you'll
be
discussing
at
your
next
meeting
at
the
next
meeting.
Council
will
be
discussed
to
consider
your
priority.
Areas
to
fund
potential
areas
for
service
reductions
of
cuts
are
needed,
new
initiatives
or
programs.
F
You
want
staff
to
consider
for
the
budget
and
your
tax
rate
goal
for
FY
24..
The
unusual
monies
we
have
are
we've
been
calling
arpa
and
Tiff
for
your
information
for
the
public.
By
arpa
we
mean
Federal,
coveted
relief
funds
from
the
American
Rescue
plan
act
or
arpa.
The
city
will
receive
a
total
of
1.9
million
dollars
that
hasn't
already
been
allocated
for
the
purp
for
some
Purpose
By
Council.
F
Our
paroles
have
said
that
a
city
or
size
could
have
claimed
more
than
that
as
revenue
losses,
rather
than
prove
out
the
coveted
relevance
of
spending
each
of
those
dollars.
So
city
council
did
the
so
claim,
meaning
that
we
can
use
that
1.9
million
for
pretty
much
anything
except
for
reducing
the
tax
rate.
If
I'm
not
mistaken.
F
By
Tiff
we
mean
new
revenue
from
the
tax
increment
financing
District
ongoing
the
city
should
have
just
over
1
million
dollars.
Every
year
from
the
Tiff
District
expiring,
Tif
districts
are
state,
approved
areas
for
municipalities
can
borrow
money
for
infrastructure
improvements
against
future
development
and
the
increase
in
tax
revenue
from
that
development.
F
The
city's
TIF
district
is
much
of
the
downtown.
The
Tiff
district
is
expiring
in
May
of
2024,
as
the
mayor
just
said,
meaning
the
debt
we
incurred
to
improve
the
municipal
infrastructure,
downtown
that
attracted
much
of
that
private
Downtown
Development
will
be
paid
off
in
May
of
2024..
Once
we
have
a
clean
audit
on
all
of
that,
the
city
can
then
start
spending
the
tax
revenue
no
longer
needed
to
make
the
debt
payments,
so
our
money
can
be
used
pretty
much
for
anything
except
for
reducing
the
tax
rate,
because
it
is
one-time
money.
F
F
Now
note
that
there
is
some
Nuance
to
these
rules,
as
noted
in
your
packet,
for
example,
if
there's
going
to
be
a
gap
in
funding
after
the
Tiff
expires
and
before
we
can
spend
the
Tif
tax
revenues,
namely
June
of
2024.
arpa,
could
be
used
to
bridge
that
Gap
also,
either
arpa
or
Tiff
could
be
used
for
catching
up
on
expenses.
The
city
has
had
to
under
invest
in
over
the
years,
for
example,
say:
deferred
maintenance
on
roads.
F
Ideally,
the
city
would
also
have
a
long-term
funding
of
plan
to
avoid
falling
behind
on
those
types
of
expenses
in
the
future.
Before
you
decided
to
allocate
it
that
way,
note
that
there
are
two
expenses
the
city
is
currently
carrying
through
grants
that
Council
and
the
community
has
expressed
ongoing
interest
in
Recreation
positions
and
free
programming
that
are
serving
our
historically
underserved
residents
and
the
equity
director
position.
F
F
So
all
that
is
important
context
for
your
FY
24
budget
goal
discussion
at
your
next
meeting
now
this
puzzle,
this
I,
don't
know
Tetris
of
money
can
be
a
little
confusing
to
keep
straight.
So
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
illustrate
this
wasn't
with
an
example
say
everything
else
stays
the
same
as
this
fiscal
year,
except
you
want
the
Tiff
money
to
pay
for
the
equity
director's
salary
out
of
the
general
fund,
rather
than
rely
on
grant
funding,
say
the
grant
term
for
the
equity.
F
That's
currently
paying
for
the
equity
director
ends
in
May,
2024
and
I,
say
say
it
ends,
because
the
end
date
is
actually
uncertain
at
the
moment,
because
spending
on
the
grant
is
on
pause
for
right
now.
That
means
there
is
no
money
for
the
equity
directors,
June
2024
salary,
unless
you
allocated
that
amount
from
arpa.
F
F
Ideas,
for
example,
could
be
addressing
a
key
Equity
concern
is
a
is
one
of
the
criteria
or
that
it
addresses,
or
and
or
it's
in
alignment
with
the
master
plan
and
or
it
meets
the
Deferred
maintenance
need.
These
are
just
examples
whatever
would
be
important
to
you
and
I'll
pause
to
see
if
Andrew
would
have
anything
out
there
or
correct.
Q
A
Some
things
that
I
wanted
to
call
out
as
we
think
about
the
money
you
know
just
tonight.
We
had
a
request
for
the
use
of
reserves
to
increase
a
role
in
salary.
We
heard
about
strains
in
public
safety
and
significant
requests
coming
from
that
in
the
future
we
know
there's
wage
compression
between
our
Union
and
non-union
employees.
A
Inflation
hasn't
receded
to
normal
levels.
We
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
continue.
We
have
a
lot
of
Staff
wages
tied
to
Cola.
We
know
that
we're
underfunding
our
infrastructure
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
position.
Grant
funded
positions
that
we're
going
to
run
out
of
funding.
For
so
there's
a
lot
of
potential
need
coming.
A
A
E
E
Of
her
information
points
on
our
Excel
sheet,
how
would
you
characterize
the
the
relatively
conservative
aggressive
estimate
on
the
property
grandless
growth
that
doesn't
put
it
0.8
percent?
That
seems.
Does
that
feel
like
a
conservative
like
very
likely
to
hit
that,
or
does
that
feel
moderate
like
it
could
or
could
not
I'm
just
curious
what
your
feeling
on
that
is.
Q
Q
E
That
was
my
expectations.
You
probably
use
the
reliable
minimum
and
the
other
question
I
had
was
oh
and
just
in
in
forecast
in
setting
the
future
budgets
that
are
used
for
driving
this
tool,
you're
just
a
stupid
kind
of
straight
line:
growth
across
the
existing
Suite
of
services,
positions
and
expenditures.
So
it's
a
it's
not
assuming
any
kind
of
jumps
in
the
future.
It's
just
kind
of
everything
progressed
that
the
percentage
increases
you
kind
of
forecast.
That
would
be.
Q
Yes,
it
is,
it
is
straight
line
progression
because
it
is
a
pretty
complex
model.
It
actually
is
probably
higher
than
what
we
would
normally
budget,
because
some
of
the
operating
lines
that
we
usually
hold
steady
were
included
to
have
increases
due
to
inflation
in
that
model.
So
it
might
be
a
little
bit
conservative
on
being
high
on
the
expense
side,
but
I'd
rather
do
that
than
until
you
something
to
love.
E
A
Q
That
memo
has
been
prepared.
You
actually
are
going
to
see
it
in
your
Finance
commission
packet,
they're,
going
to
discuss
it
as
well.
I
can
give
you
the
information
right
now
right
now,
Cola
is
trending
towards
about
six
and
a
half
percent
for
the
February
to
February
Mark.
We
do
have
some
contracts
that
are
marked
against
October
to
October,
that's
skewing
higher
about
7.3
percent.
We
take
the
average
of
three
different
forecasters
and
and
compare
them
we
kind
of
some
of
them
are
high
8.3.
Q
Q
Q
The
three
items
of
concern
are
obviously
still
the
SRO
position,
which
is
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
of
Revenue
and
whether
that's
going
to
continue
at
the
same
level.
And
then
inflation
is
absolutely
still
a
huge
concern,
because
it's
not
only
impacting
pay.
It's
impacting
our
ability
to
obtain
contracts
and
supplies
with
fixed
budgets
that
have
carry
for
from
year
to
year.
A
L
A
For
example,
like
we
don't
we
don't
typically
go
into
that
saying
keeper
ad
XYZ
staff.
Do
this
specific
Pro,
you
know
Sometimes
some
things
rise
to
that
detail
right
like
do
Main
Street,
but
it
it
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
like
a
very
in
the
weeds
discussion,
more
it's
kind
of
more
values
based,
but
this
is
an
additional
opportunity
to
ask
questions
about
budget
These
funds.
Anything
you
want
to
know
about
Finance,
it's
a
lot.
D
C
Q
Out
specifically
Winooski
Valley
Parks
district
is
another
one.
That's
in
the
model
that
is
not
currently
fully
funded,
but
requests
more.
That's
in
our
regional
programs,
Department
and
then
CCTA
or
GMT
is
also
in
the
regional
programs.
Department
I
do
have
a
relationship
with
Nick
Foss,
who
is
the
Finance
director
over
there.
We
both
serve
on
the
Vermont
government,
Finance
Officers
Association.
Q
F
C
A
A
E
Q
So
our
investments
have
strictly
been
in
certificates
deposit.
At
this
point,
the
current
offering
is
at
one
and
a
half
percent,
with
what
I
meant
by
initial
investment.
Is
it's
a
one-time
initial
investment
and
we
just
continue
to
invest
it
over
and
over
again
for
a
period
of
20
years
and
then
100K
annual
investment
is
the
100K
gets
contributed
each
year
and
we
continue
ballooning
in.
Q
A
So,
like
thinking
about
the
Tiff
model,
you
know,
even
if
you
don't
spend
the
whole
thing
in
fy25
and
there's
like
a
tax
rate
decrease,
we
could
take
that
decrease
and
actually
invest
it
instead.
So
we
hold
flat
and
then
have
additional
revenue
and
sort
of
extend
out
over
time,
what
we're,
what
we're
paying
for
or
like
mitigating
the
increasing
or
so
there's
like
different
strategies
to
consider.
Q
E
Right
and
I
know:
I
appreciate
that,
like
values,
approach
and
recommendation
from
the
finance
commission
I'm
just
curious
if
there
are
any
other
lumping
or
filtering
strategies
that
you
all
have
talked
about
for
like
how
to
list
of
20
or
30
items,
think
about
what
might
be
Bridge
allergy,
what
might
be
good,
Bridge
or
like
sun
setting
funds.
I,
don't
know
I'm
scarcity
about
any
other
ways
to
that.
F
Well
so
Angela
feel
free
to
try
me
out
of
bed
here.
John
rousher
did
share
a
preliminary
draft
memo.
He
still
wants
to
check
with
his
leadership
team
about
specifics,
but
he
did
include
his
criteria
for
reviewing
those
projects
and
initiatives
it's
kind
of
a
long
list,
but
maybe
it
will
be
helpful,
so
is
activity
identified
or
aligned
to
the
city's
master
plan
goals,
so
it
I
tapped
into
that
one
as
well
in
the
activity
identified.
F
Is
the
activity
identified
in
one
of
the
infrastructure
Master
plans
does
activities
support
the
replacement
of
an
existing
city-owned
asset
that
came
from
Finance
Commission?
Does
the
funding,
support
and
activity
currently
performed,
but
under-resourced
is
activity,
a
regulatory
requirement
as
the
activity
and
upcoming
Capital
project
with
high
long-term
debt?
You
know
we're
touching
on
that.
F
One
is
this
activity
identified
in
the
capital
plan,
but
under
resourced
does,
for
example,
road
maintenance
does
funding
support
an
existing
asset
constructed
as
part
of
the
downtown
revitalization
project,
I.E
Tiff,
unfortunately,
there's
a
list
of
those
that
that
is
a
little
disturbing.
It
has
a
one-time
funding
request
support
the
initial
arpa
treasury
eligible
criteria.
I
actually
don't
know
that
that's
particularly
relevant,
but
it's
an
indication
of
what
the
general
generally
Society
thinks
of
is
important.
So
there's
that
aspect
of
things
I
feel
like
there
was
another
list.
Q
So
if
your
direction
is
a
little
more
broad
around
the
policy
that
you'd
like
to
see
this,
the
staff
Implement
and
giving
us
criteria
to
evaluate
the
different
options
would
be
a
good
way
to
do
that,
rather
than
having
us
be
directed
to
do
specific
things
with
the
money.
More
more
broad
goals
to
accomplish.
A
A
A
A
I
think,
like
those
rubric
categories,
sound
very
useful,
this
list
is
not
exhaustive.
There
are
other
things
that
have
already
been
discussed
even
just
tonight,
and
so
thinking
about
like
highest
priorities.
I
feel
like
is
there
somewhere
that
we
need
to
increase
funding.
That's
here,
that's
like
a
very
high
priority.
E
A
E
E
F
D
G
F
A
A
There
are
certain
other
places
where
it
we're
not
like
held
to
a
dollar
amount
like
we
added
that
sidewalk
maintenance
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
number
was
determined
like
if
we
said
we
wanted
to
fully
fund
pavement,
or
maybe
that's
a
bad
example.
If
we
said
we
wanted
to
do
this
downtown
Capital
contribution.
E
L
E
H
E
Right
size
or
fix
or
Shore
up,
I
think
that's
another
and
I,
don't
know
if
I
could
really
thinking
about
a
Rubik
like
was
it?
Is
this
a
deferable
like?
Do
you
still
get
benefit?
If
you
don't
do
this
this
year,
foreign
value
of
doing
it
this
year,
as
opposed
to
waiting
a
year,
I
think
that
might
be
something
I'll
try
and
be
thinking
about,
because
that
could
help
direct
some
of
our
one-time
spending
too.
G
F
F
I
think
I've
been
I
have
been
trying
to
keep
Council
on
arms
length
a
little
bit
given
the
history,
but
especially
for
this
topic.
Yes,
Phil,
just
copy
email
me
and
copy
Christine
on
anything
that
comes
to
mind
between
now
and
then
your
next
meeting,
probably
because
I
have
several
conferences,
a
couple
of
conferences
in
the
in
the
middle.
So
the
more
lead
time
we
have
to
discuss
the
staff
or
whatnot
would
be
helpful
so
that
we
can
better
advise
you
all.
E
All
right,
I'll,
just
say
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
to
see
the
states
like
I,
don't
know
one
place
that
I
would
go
to
find
where
the
state
plans
to
invest
above
and
beyond,
arpa
and
eil
and
I
are
like
there's
several
sources
of
funding
coming
down
that
will
triple
to
States
and
I.
Don't
know
how
that's
like
levels
up
above
the
traditional
expenditure.
D
D
A
question
that's
not
going
to
show
up
on
here,
but
something
to
think
about
is
lean
and
the
ability
to
for
continuous
Improvement.
So
looking
at
basically
within
the
programs
and
services
we
provide.
Is
there
way
to
do
some
reformatting
restructuring
so
that
there's
cost
savings
yielded
done
a
lot
of
work
at
the
state
level
as
it
relates
to
that
when
I
was
working
with
the
agency
of
natural
resources
and-
and
that
was
eventually
pulled
up
to
the
governor's
office
to
the
administrative
level
to
look
across
agency
programs.
F
Yeah
I'm
wondering
I've
never
been
through
a
lien
or
Six
Sigma
or
any
sort
of
training
like
that.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
an
overview
I
mean.
Obviously,
if
people
go
through
whole
programs
for
this.
But
if
there's
an
overview,
you
could
send
me
as
a
starting
point,
I'd
be
happy
to
look
at
it.
Sure
I
remember
that
from
the
it
was
either
interview
process
or
in
the
in
the
job
scope.
So
yeah
I
hear
you
there.
We
have
some.
D
D
D
A
D
A
Q
Sure
I
can
have
the
sources
available
and
provide
the
section
of
the
ordinance
that
outlines
what
those
fees
are
and
we
can
take
a
look
at
what
ones.
If
any,
you
would
consider
increasing
because
they're
they
are
going
to
impact
different
residents,
foreign
potentially.
So
somebody
getting
a
building
permit
right
now,
costs
75
days
fee,
increasing
that,
for
somebody,
who's
redoing
their
roof
might
make
it
cost
prohibitive
to
continue
to
do
the
maintenance
on
their
homes.
F
C
F
Of
other
non-tax
Revenue
sources
that
haven't
you
haven't
considered
before
Angela
I'm
wondering
not
necessarily
you,
but
perhaps
our
Treasurer
could
look
into
and
do
some
spitballing
between
before
the
17th.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
that
I
mean
it
would
be
at
council's
Direction,
but
given
your
daily
interactions
with
him.
Q
A
E
Q
F
A
A
Q
C
A
So
we
are
on
to
item
h.
This
is
on
for
discussion
or
approval
the
Vermont
League
of
cities
and
towns
policy.
So
this
we
previewed
this
at
the
last
meeting.
Vlct
on
behalf
of
all
cities
and
towns
in
Vermont,
creates
this
list
of
policy
priorities
that
they
share
with
the
legislature.
So
it's
really
extensive.
It
includes
things
that
don't
matter
to
us,
probably
things
that
we
maybe
don't
support
or
are
neutral
about.
What
have
you?
It's
not
intended
to
be.
A
C
A
C
E
A
A
A
What
I
recall
from
a
few
years
ago,
the
legislature
was
trying
to
use
Transportation
fund
money
to
do
something
that
was
like
completely
unrelated
to
transportation
and
and
so
I
think
that's
where
the
opposition
came
from
I,
don't
remember
like
how
far
removed
the
thing
was
that
they
were
doing.
That's.
F
H
F
D
A
D
C
G
A
A
F
Q
So
we
do
receive
our
annual
Lane
mileage
payments.
It's
our
state
payment
in
the
general
funds
about
63
000,
that's
based
on
the
amount
of
mileage
of
road
we
have
in
the
classes
of
roads
that
we
have
the
only
other
money
that
I
can
recall
is
receiving
from
transportation
funding.
We
have
some
Transportation
fund
grants
that
are
outside
the
class
two
repaving.
Q
Q
I
believe
all
of
the
transportation
funding
is
related
to
Transportation.
The
exception
might
be
occasionally.
The
transportation
department
is
the
pass-through
Agency
for
the
public
safety,
DUI
and
occupant
protection
enforcement
grants
wow.
It's
the
government
highway
safety
grants.
Sometimes
it
comes
through
the
Department
of
Transportation,
not
every
year.
I
think
this
year
it
came
through
the
Sheriff's
Department.
J
H
F
C
F
F
So
Berry
Town
assigned
me
to
go
Advocate
on
his
behalf
that
year
the
select
board
got
really
into
the
weeds
with
the
policy
I.
Don't
think,
they'd
really
had
an
opportunity
to
interact
with
before
and
I
was
on
the
fair
policy
committee
Affair
section
of
the
committee
that
year
and
so
I
was
like.
Oh
maybe
they
should
see
this,
so
we
put
it
on.
They
were
like
really
in
the
weeds
and
all
these
little
things
and
so
I
was
proposing
all
these
very
Boutique
amendments
from
the
floor
and
they're
like
this
is
not
sustainable.
C
F
Just
that's
all
just
a
back
story
on.
Ideally,
you
would
be
voting
on
language
for
me
today,
but
if,
if
there
is
something,
if
you
wanted
me
to
ask
for
clarification,
we
can
certainly
do
that
it
may
or
may
not.
It
may
not
get
through
because
of
the
number
of
people
involved.
It
might
not
pass
so,
but
it
would
inform
you
for
next
time.
F
C
C
A
A
F
A
G
A
G
J
C
A
Those
abstaining
stain,
okay,
okay,
so
that
was
the
only
item
that
we
needed
to
address
here.
I
will
say
that
the
feedback
that
you
all
have
given
me
I'm,
combining
with
our
previous
legislative
positions
as
a
city
I'm
also
doing
some
Outreach
to
our
existing
legislators
to
find
out
what
is
on
deck
or
potentially
moving,
and
so
we'll
be
coming
back
to
you
all,
not
at
the
next
meeting
in
November
with
the
drafts.
So
we
actually
can
put
forward
a
discrete
set
of
our
own
priorities
to
share
out.
D
As
well
as
under
506
holding
municipalities,
harmless
reliability
for
any
hazardous
material
incident
at
any
facility
or
property
that
conforms
with
all
state
and
federal
permits
and
regulations,
holding
municipalities
harmless
from
liability
for
any
pfas
related
contamination-
I,
don't
even
know
if
that
would
be
able
to
pass
because
of
federal.
Circular
legislation.
Super
fund
legislation,
but
also
just
as
a
resident
I
vehemently
oppose
all
three
of
those
I
think
that
joint
and
civil
reliability
is
embedded
in
super
fund
legislation
and
I
believe
there's
quite
a
bit
of
case
law
on
that.
A
F
F
D
F
And
I
would
like
to
propose
regrets
for
not
thinking
this
earlier.
If
you
at
all
would
like
to
meet
in
the
clerk's
office
for
executive,
it
used
to
be
holding
the
manager's
office
or
an
elder
covid,
so
I'd,
rather
not
all
of
us
crammed
in
there.
That
way,
our
recorder
can
go,
and
we
can
just
report
out
on
that.
You
when
you
adjourn
the
meeting
and
you
don't
have
to
tape
that
okay,
all.
A
Right,
so
I
am
looking
for
a
motion
to
find
that,
pursuant
to
State
Statute
3131e
pending
a
probable
civil
litigation
or
a
prosecution
to
which
the
public
body
is
or
maybe
a
party,
we
should
have
this
discussion
in
an
executive
session
to
not
put
ourselves
at
further
risk
motion
by
Thomas.
Second,
by
Aurora,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
motion
carries
looking
for
a
motion
to
enter
into
executive
session,
inviting
city
manager,
Elaine
Wong,.