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00:00:00 Call to Order/Agenda
00:00:13 Public Comment
00:00:25 Approve Previous Meeting Minutes
00:01:28 Continued Discussion on Article IV - Sections 4.1 - 4.12
01:38:52 City Updates
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D
A
E
B
Yep,
thank
you
very
much.
So
in
your
agenda
was
the
updated
draft
of
Article
4
with
it
includes
comments
from
our
last
meeting
and
also
the
section
on
parking
so
as
part
of
this
I
also
sent
with
the
email
not
included
with
the
agenda
I
sent
with
the
email,
the
language
from
I
believe
it
was
actually
from
the
1981
zoning
regulations
that
talks
about
design
review.
So
I
did
flag
that
under
section
four
four
for
for
a
potential
option
of
future
discussion.
B
B
I
flagged
in
article
4
in
the
draft
for
section
4-4.
If
we
look
at
doing
incentives,
that
would
probably
make
more
sense
to
move
that
into
Article
Five,
and
then
we
could
reserve
section
four
four
for
design
review
if
the
intent
is
to
bring
back
some
level
of
design
review.
So
I
wanted
to
provide
that
more.
As
a
reference
and
I'll
talk
more
about
that,
when
we
get
to
that
section
of
the
of
the
document,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
here,
so
that
folks.
B
C
B
B
Yeah
I
think
it'd
be
Zoom
as
well
all
right
yeah.
Can
you
see
that?
Okay,
okay,
great
so
I'm,
just
gonna
roll
through
the
roll
through
the
text
here
and
just
note
any
changes
that
were
added
from
the
last
meeting,
but
otherwise
for
the
most
part,
things
are
generally
the
same
as
what
you
reviewed
last
time.
So
we
do
have
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
B
We
do
have
the
new
language
for
our
for
Section
412
on
the
parking
standard,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
get
there
and
start
moving
through
some
of
that
language.
Also,
so
any
questions
from
anybody
about
what
we're,
what
we're
trying
to
do
should
be
pretty
straightforward,
since
this
is
what
we've
been
working
on
so
okay,
starting
in
section
four
one,
nothing
new
here
and
please
I'm
gonna
just
move
through
this
quickly.
B
B
B
You
asked
about
the
width
of
driveways
in
relation
to
some
of
the
the
graphics,
so
I
did
talk
with
Public
Works
the
standard
that
they
have,
which
here
is
their
standard
for
driveways
and
in
here
they
have
a
minimum
of
10
feet
and
a
maximum
of
20
feet
for
driveways,
so
their
standard
gives
us
allows
for
up
to
a
20
foot,
wide
driveway
and
nothing
more
narrow
than
10
feet.
So
there
is
a
standard
and
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good,
pretty
good
standard
to
utilize,
so
that
I
don't
think.
B
B
C
B
B
B
B
You
for
joining
actually
really
quick,
I'm
gonna.
Stop
my
screen
share
here,
so
we
can
introduce
Bruce
Wilson
he
is
Bruce.
Is
the
ambassador
from
the
commission
on
inclusion
and
belonging
to
the
Planning
Commission?
So
Bruce
will
be
joining
us
on
the
odd
numbered
months
for
our
meetings
and
they
will
meet
on
the
even
numbered
months
for
their
meetings,
so
Bruce.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
A
G
E
E
I
Sarah
van
rockaborsal
and
I
live
over
on
Winooski,
Falls,
Way
and
three
three
years
yourself,
and
just
so
that
you
know
this
commission's,
probably
going
to
be
meeting
more
than
once
a
month
coming
up.
So
you're
welcome
to
jump
into
any
of
those
extra
ones.
If
you
feel
like
it
won't
be
a
conflict
to
your.
F
D
H
H
youth
service
provider,
primarily
youth
Advocate
I
sit
on
a
lot
of
different
boards
like
like
this
one
commission
I'm
only
romantic
well
since
I
said
we're
gonna,
say:
police,
Fair,
partial
policing,
I'm
a
commissioner
to
the
human
rights
Governors
appointed
me
I
sit
on
a
Sydney,
read
upon
him
as
a
board
of
director
Fremont
Transit
Justice,
Equity,
University
training.
When
you
see
school
district
anti-racism.
H
A
lot
of
things
so
I
just
saw
I,
have
an
art
gallery,
University
Mall
parks
and
wonderful,
and
we
have
a
lot
of.
We
do
a
lot
of
Art
in
communities
and
you
might
be
able
to
see
a
lot
of
murals
around
Burlington
and
we
created
art,
so
wonderful
boxes.
So
a
lot
of
those
boxes,
your
own
steak,
world
around
I,
remember
around
tunic
I
mean
it's
something
we
we
created
in
2010.,
I,
know:
I'm,
probably
I'll
graduated
from
Northwestern
University
in
Evanston,
Illinois
and
I.
A
E
A
H
I
think
I
should
say
one
thing
that
I
do
live
on:
East
Avenue
street,
because
I'm
living
on
East,
Allen
Street
one
time
with
nine
years
and
then
and
I
moved
away
and
I
moved
another
part
of
the
state.
Now
it's
been
four
years
back
in
Windows
and
Zone
I
love,
Winter
Ski
zone.
I'm
willing
to
do
anything
I
can
to
help
make
it
better.
I,
don't
think
I.
Honorable
man
knows
that
and
even
though
I'm
still
Brian
so
that'll,
be
it
great
thanks.
Bruce.
B
B
Just
in
this,
in
this
section
between
here
in
the
parking
section
yeah,
that's
really
the
only
space
that
we
have
this
level
of
Graphics
included
in
with
the
text.
So
I'm
not
sure
why
they're
in
here
I
mean.
Obviously
they
are
intended
to
illustrate
some
component
I,
believe
they
were
incorporated
as
kind
of
a
an
addendum
to
the
previous
regulations
and
I
think
they
were
just
pulled
in
to
these
various
spots.
To
try
to
illustrate
some
of
the.
B
I
B
A
B
B
B
I
B
B
B
E
Like
not
reading,
you
know
huge,
curb
Cuts
going
into
driveways
and
make
some
consideration
for
pedestrian
and
the
overhang
of
the
car,
so
I
guess
that
would
be
a
little
hesitant
to
turn
away
from
all
until
we're
sure
that
there
are
clear
standards,
DPW
standards
for
each
of
these
things,
because
they're
kind
of
they're
not
like
commonly
cited
like
Corner
clearance
and
intersection
stacking
space
and
overhang
for
pedestrians.
You
know
sidewalks
and
parking
areas.
Those
are
really
common.
Don't
commonly
see
guidelines
around
that.
B
Right
I
think
the
yes
I
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
I
can
check
with
DPW
on
on
these
standards.
I
think
the
you
know
in
in
well,
I,
don't
want
to
say
in
a
lot
of
cases,
but
I
think
some
of
where
these
items
would
be
regulated
will
end
up
in
in
dpw's
hands
just
because
they
involve
curb
cuts
and
streets
and
locations
and
placements.
B
A
B
Yeah,
and
if
you
look
at
for
example,
item
four
here
specifies
how
far
back
the
from
a
property
the
the
access
should
be
so
I
mean
we
are.
We
do
have
language
that
talks
about
some
of
these
items
in
in
this
section,
so
the
illustrations
I
think
are
more
just
visual
representations
of
what
we're
trying
to
regulate
so
but
yes,
I.
A
B
B
B
B
A
B
So
this
is
really
where
we
start
talking
about
the
intent,
what's
included,
how
it's
regulated,
what
it's
regulated,
based
on
the
makeup
of
the
design,
review,
commission
or
committee,
and
things
like
that.
So
there
is
language
that
we
can
start
with.
If
that's
a
direction
that
that
we
want
to
go
in.
So
it's
not
we're
not
Reinventing
the
wheel,
but
it
is
going
to
require
some
action
by
Council
as
well
and
I.
See
the
mayor
has
her
hand
up
foreign.
C
B
Of
yeah
the
downtown
and
just
so
I
tried
to
recreate
generally
what
it
is.
This
is
not
this
boundary
is
not
the
exact
same
as
what's
included
in
the
map.
It's
it's
close,
ish
I'll
say,
but
it's
it's
pretty
much
all
of
downtown
and
just
west
of
downtown
and
then
extending
out
to
East
Spring
and
Hood's
Crossing,
basically,
and
the
O'brien
Center.
There
was
actually
an
amendment
done
to
the
design
review
language
that
basically
took
the
downtown
core
out
of
design
review,
because
I
think
my
assumption
and
Mike
or
Tommy.
B
Maybe
you
have
more
information
on
this,
but
I
presume
that
was
done
because
once
when
design
review
sorry
when
the
downtown
went
through
its
Redevelopment,
it
requires
design
review
to
be
done
by
Council.
So
there's
a
separate
design
review
process
for
the
downtown
as
well.
So
I
believe.
That's
why
that
was
Exempted
from
design
review
through
that
one
Amendment.
A
B
I
B
So
let
me
jump
back
to
the
article,
so
basically
sorry
yeah,
so
there
is
language
and
yes
Mike,
I,
agree.
I
think
we
would
still
exempt
downtown
from
design
review,
but
so
in
the
regulation
Sarah
for
the
downtown
district
in
article
3,
there
is
the
ability
for
Council
to
refer
any
projects
to
right
now
to
the
development
review
board.
So
if
we
did
Institute
some
sort
of
design
review
board
it
that
could
replace
council
could
refer
to
them.
B
Instead
of
the
development
review
board
for
consideration
for
comment,
if
they
wanted
to
so
so,
like
I
said,
there's
there
is
language,
that's
that
we
can
work
with
I
mean.
Obviously
we
need
to
make
some
changes
and
adjustments
based
on
what
was
what's
previous,
what
was
previously
included
in
the
regulations
but
I
think
at
least
it
gives
us
a
basis
to
start
from
to
try
to
reincorporate
design
review
so.
B
C
A
Well,
I'm
going
to
push
back
on
you
Christine,
because
we've
had
in
our
work
plan
and
we've
discussed
for
couple
years.
Historic
preservation,
and
so
that's
how
at
least
I'm
looking
at
this
is-
is
to
try
to
get
something
in
there
to
help
keep
our
historic
structures
the
best
way
we
can.
This
is
one
Avenue
and
I
mean
it
is
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
we
as
a
Planning
Commission
have
the
right
to
move
where
we
want.
If
we
think
it's
it's
appropriate.
C
A
What
I'm
saying
is
the
council
doesn't
need
to
approve
everything
we
do,
they
make
a
work
plan
and
we
we
put
out
a
work
plan
that
conforms
to
it
and
my
interpretation
and
I'll
leave
it
to
the
rest
of
the
Planning
Commission.
Is
that
the
discussion
design
review
fits
in
with
what
we've
been
talking
about
in
our
work
plan,
because
it's
a
it's
a
means
for
us
to
address
historic
structures
and
and
how
to
how
to
try
to
keep
as
many
historic
structures
from
being
demolished
as
we
can.
J
A
J
B
And
I
guess
just
to
be
clear:
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
discuss
these.
These
previous
regulations
tonight,
I'm
just
this-
is
being
provided
in
the
context
of
what
we
have
for
design
review
now
and
kind
of
switching
this
to
an
incentive
program
for
historic
preservation
and
reserving
this
section
on
design
review
for
a
future
discussion.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you,
Tommy
all
right,
so
if
that
is
a
potential
direction
to
go
in,
we
would
the
language
in
this
section
now
on,
for
the
incentives
would
move
to
a
new
section,
five
one
five
one
five,
and
then
this
we
would
leave
this
as
a
reserved
section.
So
really
nothing
in
this
first
page
has
changed
from
our
last
meeting.
B
The
incentive
section
I
did
change
a
little
bit
based
on
our
discussions
at
the
last
meeting,
specifically
Item
B
under
number
one
that
related
to
it
previously
read.
I
think
it
was
previously.
Let
me
look
to
see
what
it
said
it
previously
read.
A
25
of
the
gross
square
footage
of
the
preserved
building
could
be
used
towards
the
requirement
for
private
open
area.
B
B
B
and
the
reason
what
I
was
thinking
about
is
because
the
language
is
requires
that
the
facade
at
a
minimum,
the
facade,
be
be
preserved,
I
kind
of
thought,
the
thought
of
the
buildings,
as
if
you
looked
at
a
building,
lengthwise
and
sliced
it
into
basically
four
pieces.
You
would
you
would
keep
the
facade
and
a
certain
percentage
of
the
front
of
that
building.
A
B
A
B
If
I
thinking
about
a
building
in
long
ways
say
it's
a
hundred
foot,
long
building
or
100
foot
deep
I
guess
you
know
if
you
cut
it
into
four
pieces,
you're
saving,
you're,
keeping
25
roughly
of
each
piece.
So
because
there's
a
requirement
to
keep
the
facade,
you
would
be
keeping
the
first.
Basically
a
quarter
of
the
building.
Yeah.
B
F
B
I
was
thinking
that
mostly,
that
would
be
that's
a
good
question.
I
was
thinking
mostly
because
those
are
accessory
structures
on
the
property
and
maybe
not
necessarily
part
of
the
part
of
the
the
primary
structure
that
we're
trying
to
preserve
and
if
we're
looking
at
percentages,
I
didn't
want
somebody
to
say
well,
I'm
saving
the
entire
shed,
even
though
but
I'm
tearing
down
this
other
massive
building.
So.
C
F
D
F
C
D
I
F
Carriage
Barn
that
was
used
as
an
art
studio
and
they
were
pursuing
the
just
the
feasibility
of
converting
it
into
maybe
a
couple
of
like
accessory
dwelling
units
and
wondering
what
like
and
because
it
was
actually
a
historic
Barn
that
they
could
maybe
get
grant
funding
for
it
and
what
they
could
pursue.
So
sometimes
those
buildings
can
be
considered
in
the
realm
of
historics.
I
B
H
A
B
B
F
B
A
A
B
A
B
Sorry,
yes,
yes,
that's
yeah,
yep,
okay,
all
right,
so
nothing
new
under
Section
4.5,
nothing
new
under
Section
4.6,
however
I
believe
I
added
some
definitions.
There
was
some
discussion
at
our
last
meeting
about
whether
these
were
defined
and
I.
Think
I
don't
think
we
have
a
definition
for
wall
I
believe
we
have
a
definition
for
fence.
B
C
B
This
is
mostly
going
to
fall
within
our
residential
districts.
I
think
is
where
we're
going
to
see
it
so,
for
example,
I
believe
chick's
Market
is
a
non-conforming
structure,
because
it's
it
doesn't
meet
any
of
the
setbacks,
so
normally
what
we
would
do
and
I
believe
that's
also
a
conditional
use
in
that
District.
So
normally,
what
we
would
require
is
that,
if
there's
a
change
of
use
or
something
else,
it
would
trigger
the
need
to
bring
the
site
into
conformance.
C
F
This
is
a
question
for
me
and
I
maybe
have
brought
this
up
before,
but
like
can
somebody
reference
like,
in
theory
like
a
historical
use
of
a
property
like
back
to,
like
you
know,
for
one
of
these
non-conforming
conditional
uses,
like
say,
for
instance,
like
a
property
that
had
been
used
as
a
market
in
the
past.
That.
C
F
B
In
the
case
of
well
I
guess
it
depends
on
where
it
is
and
what
the
how
we
classify
the
use
currently.
So,
if
it's
a
use
that
is
in
our
use
table,
we
would
have
to
follow
the
use
table.
Okay,
if
it's
a
use
that
is
not
included
in
the
use
table.
There
is
a
provision
that
an
applicant
can
go
to
the
development
review
board
and
request
conditional
use
if
it's
not
currently
listed.
Okay.
C
F
B
F
B
F
I
B
B
B
B
That's
a
good
question:
I
think
it
depends
on
the
topic,
so
things
that
fall
into
streets
or
kind
of
in
the
the
Public
Works
realm.
I
I
definitely
work
with
the
public
works
department
on
those
questions
for
parking
here.
In
particular,
I
worked
actually
with
Abby
quite
a
bit
on
this
section
to
come
up
with
some
of
the
draft
language.
Since
her
expertise
is
in
is
in
transportation,
but
I
think
it
really
depends
on
the
the
topic
matter.
B
So
a
lot
of
changes
in
this
section.
Some
of
these
are
based
off
of
off
of
changes
that
were
recommended
from
the
the
parking
Inventory
management
plan,
inventory
analysis
and
management
plan
also,
like
I
said
some
Abby
and
I
spent
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time,
going
back
and
forth
on
this
section
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
the
Amendments
that
are
proposed
are
came
out
of
those
discussions.
So
what
we've
done
is
I'll
just
give
you
a
quick
overview
first
before
we
get
into
it.
B
We
also
included
a
new
section
on
bicycle
parking
and
kind
of
what
that
looks
like
tied
to
the
transportation,
demand
management
strategies
and
then
also
included
some
additional
incentives
to
potentially
reduce
parking,
as
well,
so
mostly
focused
on
electric
vehicle
charging
and
and
what
that
looks.
Like
so,
first
page
is
just
some
some
clarification,
some
additional
text
for
for
clarification.
One
item
I'll
note
here
and
Sarah.
B
I
put
this
in
more
just
to
clarify
that
we
don't
have
a
maximum
so
that
if
somebody
wanted
to
come
in
and
put
in
as
much
parking
as
they're
allowed
under
the
dimensional
standards
of
our
of
our
regulations
than
they
they
could
I
know.
Other
communities
do
have
maximum
parking
limitations.
So
because
we're
not
there
yet-
or
at
least
we
don't
have
any
of
these
regulations.
This
was
really
added
more
just
to
specify
that
that
we
don't
have
a
maximum,
but
it's
it's
purely
for
informational
purposes.
B
I
D
I
Much
as
possible,
yeah
yeah
I
mean
where
I
was
coming
from.
Is
that
I
know
some
of
the
bigger
chains
they
like
to
put
in
more
carbon
than
they
know
they
actually
need,
because
they
want
people
to
always
have
the
sense
that
when
they
get
to
the
drugstore,
they
can
have
a
parking
spot.
So
it's
sort
of
an
illusion.
D
D
F
B
And
I
guess
I
would
say
to
to
that
concern.
Our
gateways
require
parking
in
the
back,
so
you
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
see
the
parking
from
the
road
anyway,
our
downtown
core
requires
parking
either
on
site
or
in
a
shared
facility,
which
is
another
location
where
we'd
see
some
of
these
uses.
The
central
business
district
does
not
have
a
standard
on
parking,
so
that
could
be
a
place,
but
I
don't
know.
If
there's
any
lots
that
are
really
large
enough,
that
we
would
see
a
lot
of
that.
I
B
I
B
Right,
I
guess
I
would
say
in
my
experience
so
far
with
the
city
and
with
working
with
developers,
everybody
wants
to
build
as
little
parking
as
they
as
they
need
to
nobody's
out
there
looking
to
to
build
more
correct,
well,
correct
sure,
but
that's
I
mean
that's
been
my
experience
with
with
every
project.
That's
come
come
in
front
of
me
is
that
they're
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
the
number
of
spaces
as
low
as
possible
for
what
the
what
the
requirements
are.
B
A
It
seems
like
the
the
lot
coverage
and
the
setbacks,
especially
the
setbacks
in
the
or
the
green
space.
If
you
will
in
the
Gateway
districts,
would
dictate
that
anyway,
there's
only
so
much,
they
can
build
to
meet
the
density
or
the
dimensional
requirements
and
et
cetera
right.
That's
correct!
Yes,.
E
E
D
D
D
D
F
A
E
I
E
E
So
then,
maybe
speaking,
what
this
sentence
actually
says,
because
the
way
that
it
reads
right
now
is
we
you
can
build
as
much
we're
going
to
make.
You
build
a
certain
amount
of
parking,
but
you
can
build
as
much
parking
above
that
certain
amount
as
you
want,
and
it
doesn't
sound
like
that's
actually
what
you
you
wanted
to
say.
C
E
E
B
A
B
B
I
B
Exactly
okay,
so
here
we
get
into
the
table
and
we'll
do
this
in
a
couple
sections,
so
you
can
all
see
it.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
added
more
use
categories,
not
a
lot
but
added
a
few.
More
and
I
also
provided
with
the
email
of
information
about
the
meeting,
a
use
table
for
adjacent
municipalities
and
what
their
parking
standards
are.
B
Multi-Unit
is
still
one
space
per
unit
and
I
wasn't
sure
the
phraseology
this
is
kind
of
an
aside
with
1.0
spaces
or
if
that
should
just
say
one
space
or
1.0
space,
so
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
should
be
pluralized
or
not,
but
I
pluralized
them
all.
So,
if
that's
reading
weird
to
folks,
then
anyway,
that's
I,
don't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
to
dwell
on
that
that
point
right
now,
so.
B
Dwellings
is
still
one
space
per
unit
and
then
one
for
every
four
and
then
so.
This
new
item
of
multi-unit
dwellings
in
the
rarb
OR
RC
is
really
intended
to
capture
the
planned
unit
development
incentive
that
we
added
so
that,
because
those
would
be
multi-units,
they
would
fall
under
the
one
space
per
unit,
but
because
they're
in
those
residential
areas,
we
want
to
keep
them
at
the
two
spaces
per
unit
as
they
are
now.
As
so.
B
A
C
B
A
B
D
B
A
B
This
is
where
we've.
This
is
one
area
where
we've
reduced
the
parking
a
bit.
It
was
at
four
spaces
per
thousand
square
feet
which
seemed
excessive
to
me
personally
yeah,
so
we're
dropping
it
to
either
one
space
per
dedicated
office.
If
it's
a
building
like
this,
where
we
have
actual
office
spaces
or
one
per
500
gross
square
feet,
and
then
under
Civic,
we've
broken
out
for
schools,
which
is
something
that
we
didn't
have
previously
obviously
well.
B
None
of
these
we've
had
previously
so
adding
in
schools,
community
centers,
Healthcare
facility
daycare,
funeral
home
and
then
other
Civic
uses
and
then
any
other
uses
that
isn't
listed
would
be,
and
that
may
be
slightly
redundant
because
we
have
all
other
Civic
uses
and
all
other
non-residential
uses.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
need
this
last
one,
but
I
thought
I'd.
Add
it
in
just
in
case
is.
F
B
A
F
G
C
A
B
Well
and
I
guess:
I
was
thinking
about
this
more
in
the
context
of
like
the
offices
here
at
City
Hall.
So
we
have
offices
in
the
back.
I
don't
see,
I
mean
customers
show
up
to
pay
bills,
and
sometimes
they
come
to
see
me
but
I'm,
not
seeing
people
in
my
office
on
a
routine
basis
right.
So
there's
no
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
reason
to
have
Extra
Spaces,
because
I
have
an
office
here,
because
I'm
not
typically
seeing
a
clientele
I.
B
A
client
so
here's
here
we
have
a
definition
for
office.
Okay,
our
definition
for
office
is
Administrative,
executive,
professional
research
or
similar
organizations
and
Laboratories
having
only
limited
contact
public,
provided
that
no
merchandise
or
Merchandising
Services
are
sold
on
the
premise
except
such
as
our
incidental
or
accessory
to
the
principal
permissible
use.
B
A
It
also
I
I,
think
I
go
back
to
Joe's
comment
about
the
word
office.
I
mean
is
office,
the
structure
and
when
you
say
dedicated
office,
is
it
a
structure
dedicated
to
office,
or
is
it
each
individual
room
that
is
used
for
an
individ
by
an
individual
for
an
office?
You
know
what
I'm
saying
I
just
want
to
yeah
I.
F
B
C
C
F
D
A
A
J
B
So,
just
looking
at
the
the
table
of
other
communities
in
Burlington,
they
have
three
different
standards:
they
and
they
have
there's
two
different
office
categories
that
are
included
for
other
communities,
general
office
and
medical
office.
So
just
looking
at
the
general
office
line,
Burlington
is
two
spaces
in
their
neighborhood
district
and
shared
use
district
and
none
in
their
mixed
or
sorry,
their
multimodal
mix,
District.
B
C
H
B
Yeah
good
questions
so
they're
the
so
this
would
be.
This
would
be
the
minimum
required
parking
that
they
would
need
to
have
in
on
their
site,
for,
for,
in
this
case,
for
an
office
use
on-street
parking,
the
metered
spaces,
we
we
don't
really
assign
those
to
any
one
use
they
they're
kind
of
open
for
the
public
for
whoever
wants
to
to
use
them.
So
they
those
typically
only
count.
H
H
C
I
B
So
the
parking
study
didn't
get
into
specific
uses
and
and
minimums
for
uses
it
did
I
believe
it
did
have
some
language
about
providing
more
uses
in
the
table
that
it
was.
It
was
just
too
vague
that
we
had
right
now,
so
the
numbers
here
in
in
the
in
the
case
of
office
I
kind
of
just
use,
City
Hall
here
as
a
basis
for
for
what
the
number
of
spaces
we
have.
Currently
the
number
of
offices
we
have
and
just
the
number
of
square
footage
of
the
amount.
B
D
F
C
A
B
I
was
just
going
to
say:
we
do
have
the
provision
where
yes,
patient,
sorry,
client
or
customer
portion
of
parking
can
be
done
on
with
the
on-street
facilities
shared
use.
There
needs
to
be
at
least
a
10.
It
needs
to
be
10
000
square
foot
of
non-residential
to
qualify
for
the
shared
use
provision,
so
yeah
I
mean
we
do
have
the
ability
to
reduce
parking
further
from
from
what
the
minimums
are.
B
If,
if
folks
are
interested
in
pursuing
those
Avenues,
so
I
mean
I
would
I
would
also
say
you
know
in
Winooski
we
have
compared
to
some
of
the
other
communities,
the
more
rural
communities.
We
have
significant
on-street
parking
as
well.
So
you
know
the
and
not
to
I,
want
to
say
this
without
sounding
greedy,
but
for
the
meter
we
we
have
meaner
spaces.
B
City,
we
are
yes
yeah.
We
continue
to
evaluate
where
we're
seeing
the
need
for
metered
parking
I
think
our
last
expansion
was
down
on
West
Canal
Street
in
front
of
the
old
Peking
duck
house
building.
We
installed
meters
down
there
and
meeting
that
area.
The
bigger
the
bigger
challenge
for
expanding
the
metered
parking
is
just
the
enforcement
and
having
enough
people
here
to
to
do
the
enforcement
as
necessary.
B
But
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
the
parking
study
did
talk
about
the
resident,
only
parking
and
kind
of
getting
some
potential
changes
to
that
in
a
more
formalized
process
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
we
are
looking
at
internally
right
now
we're
looking
at
what
options
we
might
have
for
some
of
those
programs,
so
yeah,
there's
everything's
kind
of
always
being
evaluated.
My.
F
B
F
And
so
there
is
currently
like
street
parking
on
both
sides
where
there
probably
shouldn't
be
and
I
guess
I.
This
is
probably
not
the
venue
for
it,
but
like
I
would
really
rather
I'd
love
to
see
that
tightened
up
throughout
the
city
is
where
like
okay?
Well,
this
side
of
the
road
is
a
bike
lane,
and
this
is
parking.
B
C
A
A
D
J
G
F
F
G
They
do
they,
they
may
not
have
a
nurse
on
site,
24
7,
but
they
do
have
a
nurse
presence
and
they
do
have
licensed
eights,
who
are
assisting
the
patients
or
the
residents
as
needed.
So
the
needs
for
parking
there
for
those
residences
is,
is
going
to
be
very
minimal
as
compared
to
a
Senior
residence
where
they
may
all
want
to
have
a
car.
F
B
B
E
F
Sure
and
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
point
out
if
in
fact,
because
Winooski
does
have
a
high
like
a
high
per
capita
of
senior
living
facilities,
I
just
kind
of
don't
want
to
be
anything
discriminatory
towards
them,
assuming
like
oh
they're,
not
driving
like,
even
though
I
think.
A
lot
of
those
people
are
some
like
somebody.
B
A
A
C
C
A
A
G
F
B
F
F
C
G
B
G
F
A
G
D
B
B
B
F
A
B
I
B
J
A
B
A
E
B
E
So,
like
the
theater
entertainment
I'm,
just
looking
at
what
other
municipalities
have
for
that,
the
ones
that
have
like
either
buy
the
square
footage
or
the
seat
have
in
there.
It
would
read
like
0.25
spaces
per
seat
or,
if
no
seats,
one
two,
three
four
five,
so
it
accounts
for
like
the
higher
ground
type
entertainment
facility.
That's
not
seated
right,
but
there
are
places
that
have
seats.
So
it
makes
sense
at
that
point
to
count
by
c
and
then
I'm
just
looking
to
see.
If
we
have
that
anywhere
else,.
B
H
A
Abby,
just
and
Eric
does:
does
it
make
sense
on
something
like
that
you
brought
up
higher
ground
right,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
venue
that
that
has
no
seating,
but
it
has
a
capacity
to
to
look
at
the
capacity
or
tie
it
somehow
to
capacity,
because
one
space
for
500
square
feet.
How
many
people
can
you
fit
in
there
and
how
many
cars
might
they
need?
You
know
what
I'm
saying.
F
C
B
We
wouldn't
know
what
the
site
needs
to
look
like
until
the
building
is
finished,
because
they'll,
typically
to
to
measure
capacity
at
least
I
know
when
they
do
restaurants.
Here
they
need
to
see
the
tables
they
need
to
see
the
layout
of
the
space.
They
need
to
see
everything
in
the
space
before
they
can
measure
and
determine
how
many
people
can
fit
into
the
space.
A
But
I
wonder
if
there's
some
way
to
figure
out,
you
know
say:
Higher
Grounds
has
I,
don't
know,
say
2
000
square
feet
and
they
can.
They
have
a
capacity
of
a
thousand
people.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
even
close,
but
you
know
I
mean
so
that
it's
like
okay.
Well
in
that
case
is
once
as
two
spaces
per
thousand
enough
for
something
like
that
and
and
I
don't
know
the
answer.
That
might
be
a
crazy.
You
know
packing
them
in,
but.
E
E
B
C
I
B
F
A
B
B
B
J
The
city
is
looking
for
somebody
to
serve
as
a
representative
to
the
town
meeting
TV
local
access
board.
So
if
you
have
any
friends
looking
through
a
volunteer
opportunity
and
we
actually,
at
our
last
meeting,
we
awarded
some
arpa
funds
to
some
Community
organizations
who
have
been
helping
support
residents
with
covet
impact.
So
the
Food
Shelf,
the
Molly
Matthew
Community
Association.
So
when
you
see
parents
and
students,
project
and
dream
program
and
Champlain
Valley
office
of
Economic
Opportunity.
A
F
J
There's
nothing
changing.
They
came
back
to
present,
so
they
haven't
been
in
since
February
21,
so
the
new
two
new
councils
had
not
seen
their
stuff
before
they
didn't
really
present.
Much,
though
we're
in
litigation
with
them
right
now,
because
they
haven't
actually
addressed
the
stuff
that
we
initial
like
from
the
last
meeting,
but
Steph
is
working
through
that
with
them.
So.
A
And
Christine
you
can
address
this
after
but
kudos
to
your
staff,
the
city
staff
for
the
election.
It
was
thank
you
for
working
at
night.
Well,
it
was
a
very
interesting
and
I
won't
say
complicated,
but
it
was
a.
There
was
a
lot
of
new
things
happening
and
it
was
handled
very
well
by
Jenny
and
Janet,
and
the
other
volunteers
I'll,
throw
myself
out
of
that,
because
I
just
was
there
for
the
heck
of
it.
J
J
J
B
B
H
H
You
know
I'm
still,
learning
I'm
glad
so
glad
most
of
my
board,
directors
are
developers,
so
I
know
I
know
a
little
bit,
but
so
the
things
that
the
questions
that
I
will
have
is
going
to
be
I'll,
bring
back
to
my
inclusive
and
belonging
Commissioners
and
see
what
what
they
have
to
say.
Okay,
thank
you
again,
great.