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From YouTube: Winooski City Council - 9/6/2022
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00:00:00 Call to Order/Pledge of Allegiance
00:00:29 Agenda Review
00:01:29 Public Comment
00:12:24 Consent Agenda
00:13:14 Council Reports
00:20:18 City Updates
00:24:00 Champlain Water District Bond Vote Overview
00:32:17 Reappraisal Process Overview
00:48:06 Assessor’s Office Errors & Omissions
00:57:46 Downtown Winooski Memorandum of Understanding
01:13:46 Safe, Healthy, Connected People Commission
01:15:36 Committee Member Appointment - Winooski Memorial Library Committee
01:17:08 Development Review Board Member Appointment
01:18:42 Commissioner Appointment - Municipal Infrastructure Commission
01:20:47 Community Services Department Scholarship Fund Fundraising Campaign
01:23:12 Housing Initiative Director Job Description
01:43:06 Eviction Protection Policy
02:16:42 COVID-19 Recovery Nonprofit Grant Guidelines
02:40:28 City Manager Performance Summary
02:41:09 Strategic Vision Goal Update
02:42:58 Executive Session
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A
Motion
carries
anything
else
all
right,
so
we
are
on
to
public
comment.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
attending
members
of
the
public,
if
you're
here
to,
if
you
want
to
speak
about
something,
that's
not
included
on
tonight's
agenda,
now
would
be
your
opportunity
if
you
are
here
for
an
item
on
the
agenda,
and
you
can
wait
until
we
reach
that.
Please
do
so.
If
anyone
has
a
public
comment
to
share
his
hand
or
use
the
chat.
F
F
Thanks
for
having
me,
I
was
hoping
to
be
there
in
person,
but
covid
finally,
caught
up
to
me.
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
Jessica's
eviction.
I
know
that
was
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
and
I
didn't
quite
get
a
chance
to
read
the
documents,
but
I
just
wanted
to
really
encourage
you
all
to
take
time
to
explore
just
cause
eviction
and
to
ideally
move
it
to
committee
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
it
on
the
ballot
for
the
March
election.
F
It's
really
really
important
that
folks
in
Winooski,
including
myself,
folks
who
are
tenants,
have
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
this.
It's
really
important
that
we
all
get
to
vote
on
Just
Cause
eviction
and
whether
that's
something
we
want
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
all
deserve
right
is
to
get
a
chance
to
to
use
our
our
voices
and
make
ourselves
heard.
F
As
presidents
of
this
city
to
me,
it's
really
important
that
I'm
able
to
know
that
I'm
able
to
stay
in
my
apartment,
I
think
the
fact
that
tenants
are
able
to
be
evicted
at
any
time
for
basically
any
reason
right
with
no
cause
eviction.
You
can
just
be
be
handed
an
eviction
and
you
have
no
ability
to
fight
that
and
I
think
for
me
and
for
other
folks
who
I
I
speak
to
in
the
community.
That's
a
really
big
cause
of
concern
right
that
really
affects
folks.
Mental
health.
Housing
is,
is
really
really
crucial.
F
It's
really
fundamental
and
I
know.
I
personally
will
hesitate
to
report
things
that
are
broken
or
not
working
well
in
my
apartment,
because
I
just
have
this
fear
that
if
I
bother,
my
landlord
I
could
be
evicted
if
I,
if
I
come
across
as
difficult
I
could
be
evicted
even
if
I'm
just
asked
looking
for
something
really
basic
like
something
to
be
fixed
in
my
apartment
and
I.
F
Think
that's
a
fear
that
a
lot
of
folks
share
if
I
were
to
be
evicted,
I
wouldn't
only
lose
my
home
I
would
I
would
lose
my
whole
life
that
I've
built
in
this
community.
If
I
had
to
move
outside
of
Winooski
and
I
had
to
go,
live
somewhere
else
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
there's
a
very,
very,
very
low
vacancy
rate
here,
and
so,
if
I
had
to
leave
my
apartment,
I,
don't
know
where
I
would
live,
I
don't
know
where
I
would
go.
F
I
would
probably
have
to
move
to
a
completely
different
part
of
the
state
or
even
leave
the
state
and
I
know
that's
a
reality
that
a
lot
of
folks
live
with.
So
I
just
want
to
really
encourage
you
all
to
take
some
time,
and
hopefully
you
know
put
just
cause
on
the
ballot
for
all
of
us
in
March.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
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Hi,
my
name
is
Suzanne
Blaine
I
live
here
in
monusi
and
also
on
some
properties,
and
I
also
wanted
to
talk
about
something
about
housing,
a
little
bit
different,
so
similar
but
different.
So
one
of
the
things
my
husband
and
I
wanted
to
do
was
put
in
a
Cottage
in
the
backyard.
So
one
of
a
lot
of
other
cities
like
I'm,
not
quite
sorry,
hard
to
know
exactly
what
to
think.
So.
H
So
we've
been
through
over
three
years
of
basically
drb
meetings
and
now
everything's
an
environmental
support.
Because
of
the
way
the
conditional
use,
firm,
Networks,
so
I've
been
to
the
planning
meeting
planning
board
meetings
a
couple
times
I've
been
to
you
guys.
I
think.
One
time
about
this,
and
it
would
make
it
easier
for
people
who
are
really
small
scale
Builders,
my
husband
and
I
do
mostly
all
our
work
ourselves
and
all
our
permitting
and
design
work
ourselves.
H
So
it's
one
of
the
ways
to
add
infill
housing
without
having
in
like
massive
Apartments
like
I
know,
the
the
Planning
Commission
has
spent
a
lot
of
time,
doing
that
and
and
that's
great
to
add
housing,
but
these
small-scale
little
buildings
that
could
be
like
in
the
garage
or
look
like
a
carriage
house
is
a
way
to
add
infill
housing.
But
it's
a
little
bit
tricky
to
do
that
because
it's
it's
not
just
like
a
zoning
permanent
like
you
meet
the
zoning
requirements.
H
That
hasn't
been
addressed
yet
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
language
in
our
zoning
codes
and
our
uludr
that
doesn't
quite
match
with
the
master
plan
and
the
way
that
character
of
the
neighborhood
is
used
and
that
phrasing
is
often
used
to
keep
development
and
that
was
used
against
us
by
the
drb
without
any
reasoning,
just
that
in
America,
in
any
specific
things
that
we
didn't
need.
So
that's
another
thing:
I
think
that
the
city
council
should
think
about
as
being
moved
forward
with
zoning
regulations.
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K
I
think
it's
an
important
thing
that
it
becomes
more
of
a
an
issue
and
if
it's,
if
I
wonder
what
the
procedure
is
to
get
something
like
on
the
ballot
about
this,
just
cause
eviction,
because
I
think
a
just
cause.
Eviction
would
sort
of
level
the
playing
field
a
little
bit
for
the
people
who
rent
here,
which
is
a
pretty
good
sized
majority
of
the
people.
I
know,
63
percent
gets
bandied
about
quite
a
bit,
so
that's
a
large
percentage
of
renters
and
I'm
a
renter
myself,
and
that
is
kind
of
scary.
K
To
have
that
cloud
over
my
head
wondering.
Well,
they
could
just
decide
they'd,
don't
want
me
here
anymore
for
no
reason
and
then
I
would
have
to
be
scrambling
as
Grace
described.
I.
Don't
expect
some
kind
of
free
ride,
but
from
personal
experience,
I
know
that
a
one
month's
notice
to
leave
a
place
really
leaves
you
scrambling
unless
you've
got
your
ducks
in
a
row.
So
at
the
least
I
would
expect
a
greater
time
frame
from
when
a
person
is
notified
and
when
they
have
to
leave.
K
Failing
that,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
to
say,
but
I
think
a
just
cause
program
or
whatever
policy
just
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
our
time.
Right
now,
because
of
the
pressure
on
finding
houses,
Etc
and
just
the
nature
of
our
city,
with
a
lot
of
low-income
renters,
so
I
just
wanted
to
voice
that
I
was
going
to
come
with
Grace
and
I
just
heard
she
had
coped.
B
K
A
Okay,
thank
you
all.
So,
let's
move
to
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
our
Council
minutes
from
August,
8th
payroll
warrants
and
accounts
payable
warrants,
Bank
signatory
update
and
event
permit
for
Pine
Grove
Terrace
block
party
Jim.
You
were
gone
the
last
meeting
right.
Okay,
so
let's
just
do
Council
minutes.
First,
are
there
any
questions?
Concerns
about
those
nope?
Do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
she'll
move.
A
L
J
All
right
a
couple
things
to
report
on
I'm
going
to
start
with,
we
did.
We
did
have
an
August
meeting
of
the
safe,
healthy
connected
people.
Commission,
it
was
ended
up
being
held
on
August
30th,
so
outside
of
our
regular
cycle,
but
it
was
important.
Our
the
commission
and
the
commission
chair
felt
it
was
very
important
for
the
commission
to
meet
to
review
the
covid
recovery
grant
for
non-profits,
which
is
now
later
on
in
the
agenda
for
Council
approval.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
was
ready
for
this
meeting
and
yeah.
J
J
J
I
would
like
to
note
that
we
had
one
member
who,
after
multiple
attempts
from
both
myself
and
many
many
attempts
from
Jenny
to
contact,
hasn't
really
responded,
and
that's
now
going
to
be
item
o.
So
we
can
discuss
that
further
then,
but
we
do
have
maybe
one
and
definitely
a
regular
member
and
definitely
two
alternates
that
are
open.
So,
if
folks
are
interested
in
those
positions
and
being
a
part
of
this
work,
I
definitely
recommend
you
can
find
the
application
at
winooskidt.gov.gov
inclusion.
J
Our
next
commission
meeting
is
going
to
be
October
13th
at
6
PM
in
person
at
the
O'brien
Center
I
also
want
to
give
two
shout
outs
first
to
Jenny,
for
just
the
amazing
work
that
she
did
with
the
primary
on
August
19th.
The
turnout
was
amazing.
We
had
a
lot
of
people
register
for
the
first
time
in
Winooski
that
day
and
she
just
handled
everything
such
professionalism
and
infectious
enthusiasm,
oh
just
being
passionate
about
the
Democratic
process,
so
it
was
just
a
positive
experience.
J
J
I
also
want
to
shout
out
Ray
and
his
team,
because
today
is
the
first
day
of
school,
so
the
summer
programs
are
wrapping
up
and
it
sounded
like
a
very
busy
very
successful
year.
So
I'm
thinking
of
Kudos
there
as
well
and
I'm
sure
Thomas
will
touch
on
this
a
bit
more
on
that
Winooski
Pride
event
is
going
to
be
this
month:
September
17th,
which
is
a
Saturday
from
five
to
eight
in
the
Park
in
the
river,
all
right,
I
think!
That's
it.
Sorry.
Thank.
B
N
The
municipal
infrastructure
commission
did
not
meet
in
August.
We
instead
had
a
gathering
of
all
the
commission
chairs,
so
we
postponed-
or
we
did
not
hold
a
meeting
in
August
in
order
to
have
a
chance
to
meet
with
the
commission
chairs
and
learn
more
about
opportunities
to
collaborate
on
priorities
and
mutual
areas
of
interest.
N
We
are
meeting
September
15th.
That
will
be
a
remote
meeting,
because
there
are
folks
that
are
not
able
to
attend
in
person
but
can
join
online.
So
that
will
that
information
and
agenda
will
be
going
out,
probably
towards
the
end
of
this
week
or
early
next
week
at
the
latest,
the
she
didn't
Solid,
Waste,
District,
the
ballots,
I
believe
and
the
city
manager.
They
might
be
covering
this
at
some
point.
In.
L
N
Updates
but
the
material
recovery
facility,
the
ballot
item
for
that
is
printed
and
will
need
to
be
requested
in
order
to
participate.
It's
not
automatically
sent
out
if
you
are
requesting
an
absentee
ballot,
so
just
be
sure
to
ask
our
city
city
manager
clerk
for
that
ballot
when
you're
either
voting
in
person
before
voting
day
or
requesting
an
absentee
ballot
also
with
chindens,
always
District.
N
A
A
Second,
fourth
Thursday
I
completed
attending
interviews
for
airport
director
candidates
for
the
City
of
Burlington
I,
don't
believe
a
final
decision
has
been
made
yet,
though,
and
I
also
attended
the
town
meeting,
TV
trustees
monthly
meeting,
where
they
voted
to
approve
a
budget
for
next
year.
We
are
still
seeking
a
representative.
If
someone
is
interested
in
public
access
television
and
representing
Winooski
there
please
reach
out.
O
O
There's
a
really
great
lineup,
including
drag
queen
Story
Hour
DJ,
set
by
Craig
Mitchell
night
protocol
performing
as
long
as
no
fun
intended
event.
That's
open
to
all
so
really
hoping
that
everybody
will
come
down
to
Rotary,
Park
and
just
enjoy
all
of
the
events
that
downtown
Winooski
and
others
are
putting
on.
That's
all
I've
got.
P
So
the
raise
grant
for
the
Winooski
Burlington
Bridge
was
awarded,
as
you
might
have
seen
in
the
news
you
might
be
hearing
some
rumors
about
timelines
and
so
forth.
So
we're
here
to
set
that
record
straight
as
it's
known
right
now,
things
could
change,
so
the
grand
funds
have
to
be
obligated
by
June
30,
2026
and
spent
by
September
30
2031..
P
P
Assuming
that
it's
a
designed
build
project,
then
they
would
be
completing
the
final
design
and
then
awarding
the
contract
in
April.
2027
is
when
they
would
anticipate
starting
construction.
So
that's
a
bit
of
a
ways
away
and
it
wouldn't
be
until
June
2030
that
the
bridge
might
be
closed
so
and
the
construction
style,
that's
currently
still
being
considered,
is
a
lateral
slide.
So
it
would
be
built
next
to
the
existing
and
then
slid
into
place.
P
P
Ask
about
Thrive
after
school
registration,
the
Champlain
water
district
special
bond
vote
is
going
to
be
held
in
person
on
Tuesday
September
13th
from
7
A.M
to
7
P.M.
On
that
day,
the
only
option
to
vote
in
person
is
at
the
Champlain
water
district
building,
which
is
that
in
South
Burlington
at
403,
Queen
City,
Park
Road
more
details
can
be
found
at
champlainwater.org.
P
If
you
need
an
absentee
ballot,
you'd
request
that
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
you
might
want
to
just
fill
it
out
in
person
at
City
Hall,
because
it
it's
probably
too
late
to
get
it
mailed
in
rethink.
Runoff
is
looking
for
volunteers
to
clean
up
Morehouse,
Brook
and
Winooski
on
Saturday
September
24th
meet
at
Landry
Park
full
details
and
are
at
rethink
runoff.org.
A
Q
We
well
thank
you
for
having
us
we're
here
for
one
primary
reason:
that's
to
introduce
you
to
the
bond
vote
that
we're
holding
on
September
13th,
but
also
an
opportunity
to
put
a
face
to
it,
because
there's
a
lot
of
new
faces
here
in
winuski,
since
we
were
last
here
and
also
it's
been
a
long
time
since
I've
been
here,
I
was
a
counselor
in
minuski
back
in
97.
or
98,
until
I
moved
out
in
I.
Think
2004..
Q
So
definitely
a
different
group
here
than
there
was
back
then
and
also
to
a
different
clerk
who
I
do
want
to
say.
Just
thank
you
to
Jenny
for
all
of
her
help.
There's
been
a
long
history
of
Clerks
in
Winooski,
well,
Carol,
I
think
for
40
something
years,
but
Jenny
has
been
instrumental
in
helping
us
through
some
of
the
bond
boat
stuff
that
we're
doing
so
you're
very
lucky
to
have
someone
like
her
helping
you
as
a
clerk
and
a
lot
of
respect
to
the
clerks.
Q
Given
the
fact
that
we
are
working
through
a
bond
vote
and
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
all
the
intricacies
of
voting,
but
they
they
do.
A
lot
beyond
that,
so
thank
you
to
Jenny,
but
the
bond
vote
that
we're
looking
for
is
we've
had
an
opportunity
through
Senator
Sanders,
to
receive
a
potential
80
percent
Grant.
They
call
it
Federal
earmark.
Essentially
it's
a
it's
a
a
grant.
We
have
an
8.7
million
dollar
project
that
we
are
looking
at
doing.
Q
Q
Q
We
have
a
one
water
main
that
comes
out
from
the
lake
and
it
splits
into
two
goes
through
Red,
Rock
Park,
and
then
it
bottlenecks
again
before
the
railroad
before
it
goes
to
our
plant.
So
if
we
ever
lost
service
in
any
of
those
two
portions
of
the
one
sec
one
line,
we
would
lose
all
water
going
out
to
to
the
users
and
so
getting
those
two
sections
done
putting
in
parallel.
Mains
is
critical
for
us,
so
that
totals
to
8.7
million
dollars
for
those
two
projects.
Q
Eighty
percent
Grant
means
we
only
have
to
pay
back
about.
1.7
we'd
be
getting
about
seven
million
dollars
in
Grant.
We
need
to
bond
for
the
entire
project
amount
of
8.7
million.
So
that's
why
the
bond
article
is
for
8.7
million.
But
if
you
read
the
fine
print
of
the
language
it
says,
subject
to
reductions
in
grant
and
aid
that
Grant
Aid
would
be
the
seven
million
dollar
Grant
year
mark.
Q
Our
goal
is
to
move
forward
once
we
have
that,
which
is
a
Formula
will
be
done
when
they
approve
the
federal
budget,
but
it
comes
with
a
tight
time
frame.
So
technically
we
have
to
spend
the
money
in
the
earmark
before
the
end
of
the
federal
fiscal
year
of
23,
which
is
a
September
30
of
23..
So
we
found
out
in
July
we
wanted
to
get
on
the
August
primaries.
We
missed
the
timeline
to
get
on
the
August
primaries.
Q
Looking
at
the
November
elections
that
are
coming
up,
the
timing
just
doesn't
make
sense
and
they
can
probably
provide
information
on
this,
but
to
get
any
materials
that
we're
looking
for
this
project,
which
includes
large
ductile
iron,
pipe
we're
looking
at
a
A,
30-week
plus
lead
time
just
to
get
materials.
So
the
idea
was
to
pass
the
Bongo.
Q
We
are
choosing
a
something
a
little
bit
off
date
to
to
meet
some
of
that
timeline,
and
we
we
understand
that
it
presents
some
challenges
for
voters,
but
there's
a
new
absentee
ballot
process
that
came
with
the
ACT
60
in
the
most
recent
legislative
session,
and
we
actually
are
getting
a
lot
of
absentee
ballots
being
cast.
So.
Q
Vote
is
held
on
September
13th
from
7
A.M
to
7
p.m,
at
Champlain,
water,
district,
and
but
anybody
can
request
an
absentee
ballot
and
we've
received
several
from
Winooski.
They
can
call
us
at
Champlain
water
district,
or
they
can
also
contact
Jenny
we've
given
each
of
the
communities
that
we
serve
a
handful
of
ballots
to
to
handle
walk-ins
as
well
as
people
requesting
them
directly
through
through
the
city.
Q
I
Q
Most
of
chicken
County
except
Burlington,
and
they
have
their
own
system
and
your
individual
communities
take
care
of
your
own
distribution
pipes
and
we
basically
get
the
water
to
the
boundaries
of
Winooski.
And
then
your
team
of
of
water
professionals
gets
water
from
there
to
your
homes
bills
you
you
know.
Does
the
billing
does
all
the
the
maintenance
of
the
system?
But
we
are
basically
your
your
your
water
source.
S
One
of
the
big
things
that
we
want
to
you
know
share
with
the
voters,
too,
is
there's
no
rate
increase
as
part
of
these
projects.
You
know
we
had
planned
for
these
in
our
Capital
plan
and
we
plan
out
five
years
what
our
Capital
products
are
going
to
be,
and
we
had
this
full
project
for
the
raw
water,
parallel
transmission
main
included
in
there.
So
getting
this
both
of
these
projects
at
80,
you
know,
kills
two
birds
with
one
stone,
so
we
had
this
already
planned.
S
B
Q
For
for
the
vote,
no,
the
way
our
Charter
is
set
up.
It's
the
it's
the
it's!
Basically,
you
need
a
majority
of
yes
tallies
from,
and
it's
Tally
from
all
totals
of
all
of
our
eight
communities
that
vote.
So
it's
a
simple
majority
based
upon
the
tallies
of
all
the
communities.
So
if,
if
when
news,
keep
voted,
all
yes
and
another
Community
we
vote
at
all.
No,
you
take
the
tallies
of
the
two
and
find
out
where
you
are.
C
Q
G
H
B
T
G
G
This
is
the
other
fourth
or
fifth
in
a
row
reappraisal
for
the
city
of
waniski,
starting
back
many
years
ago,
when
Karma
blaised
out
from
our
company
and
Jim
Tropez,
your
former
planner,
where
you
know
participants
in
in
the
project,
we
we
try
to
contrary
to
what
some
folks
think
we
try
to
look
at
all
the
properties.
Look
at
the.
G
Some
of
the
codes
are
particularly
focused
on
the
program
that
Courtney
was
part
of
with
the
inspections,
the
annual
inspections
of
25
of
the
apartments,
and
so
there
are
some
single
family
detached
that
we
haven't
seen
in
a
while,
because
they
have
either
taken
out
permits
or
haven't
done.
Anything,
and
you
folks
understand
probably
as
well
as
most
that
the
market
has
just
gone
Haywire.
You
know
in
the
last
24
to
36
months,
so
the
timing
in
some
ways
is
wonderful
to
to
do
this,
to
bring
values
up
in
some.
C
G
It
could
be
couldn't
be
worse
because
people
are
very
apprehensive
if
their
value
doubles
the
way
the
market
has
with
their
taxes,
gonna,
double
and,
and
the
answer
simply
no
is
particularly
for
the
municipal
side,
but
even
for
the
first
year
or
two,
the
schools,
the
rate.
Generally,
it's
like
a
csuna
playground.
The
rate
drops
proportionally
with
how
much
the
granulus
grows,
because
what's
approved
for
the
budget
is
what
can
be
spent.
So
what's.
If
we
raise
against
a
bigger
base,
then
the
tax
rate
drops.
G
That
said,
you
know
the
school
bond
and
the
Main
Street
Bond
are
going
to
kick
in
and
they'll
have
an
impact
on
on
the
tax
rate,
aside
from
what
we're
doing,
but
to
the
to
the
weeds,
if
you
will
Courtney's
started
in
early
last
month,
working
east
to
west
and
Courtney
pipe
in
if
I
misspeak,
but
she's
got
Florida
almost
completely
done
and
is
working
in
that
neighborhood
around
St
Mike's
off
of
15
and
has
had
great
success
both
from
Jenny
and
her
staff.
Janet
in
particular
have
helped
line
up.
F
F
G
Her
4-3
appraisal,
so
she
understands
now
the
routine
in
in
trying
to
make
people
comfortable
with
what
we're
doing
give
them
the
option
not
to
let
us
in
if
they
don't
want
to,
because
it's
their
right
not
to
let
us
in
they
elect
not
to,
but
we
prefer
again
to
put
everybody
on
the
same
playing
field,
and
so
Courtney's
eyes
are
important.
We
are
moving
from
the
residential
to
commercial.
G
We
are
going
to
start
in
the
very
near
future,
doing
information
gathering
information
about
the
rentals
you
know
and
in
preparing
operation
again
for
April
1st
2024,
which
is
the
data
value
for
the
reappraisal.
We
want
to
have
a
really
good
handle
on
what
rentals
are
and
what
a
good
what's
called
capitalization
rate
would
be
so
we
can
convert
the
rental
information
to
Value.
That's
realistic
if
the
cost
approach,
which
is
the
bricks
and
mortar
plus
the
land,
gets
out
of
hand.
G
F
G
Vacant
land
everything's
built
up,
so
you
have
a
combination
of
infill
on
Main
Street
in
East
Allen
through
the
form-based
zoning,
which
has
been
highly
successful,
but
also
you
have
just
more
pressure
to
understand
how
to
allocate
the
conservatory
value
of
the
different
components,
the
building
and
the
land.
So
I
can
ramble
on
for
a
while,
but
I'm
going
to
stop
and
let
Courtney
chip
in
and
what
she
would
like
to
contribute.
U
I'm
hi
how's
it
going
I'll
just
since
Ted
wasn't
out
in
the
field,
I
would
say:
mailed
thou
about
40
letters,
I
visited
over
30
properties
and
I
got
into
everyone,
except
for
seven
of
them.
So
I'd
say
that's
pretty
successful.
Everyone's
been
very
welcoming,
I
know
when
we
met
in
June.
There
was
some
apprehension
with
people
in
the
town
and
starting
starting
the
whole
reappraisal,
but
everybody's
been
very
welcoming.
I
am
done.
U
G
Whenever
you
do
any
of
the
three
approaches
you
have
to
really
understand
and
temper
the
factual
information
that
you
gather
with
what
is
realistic
to
the
property.
One
of
the
facts-
that's
commence,
for
example,
is
if
it's
a
recent
sale,
what
is
the
sale
price
and
to
your
point,
you
can
get
rentals
that
are
long-term.
G
You
got
great
tenants,
so
the
rents
are
low
and,
conversely,
the
property
owner
may
not
be
keeping
everything
up
to
Snuff
and
the
tenants
are
fine
with
that,
and-
and
we
are
so
that
that
goes
to
adjusting
the
value
by
saying
that
the
rents
May
reflect.
What's
there
you
know,
and
so
you
have
to
temper
it
based
upon
your
knowledge
of
the
market
and
the
property.
G
We
still
do
inspections
with
the
income
approach
and
the
inspections
are
important
because
you
can
gauge
the
quality
and
the
condition
of
the
rental
property
through
that
inspection,
the
larger
projects
that
have
multiple
tenants
or
multiple
units.
We
may
do
a
representative
sample,
especially
if
they
were
built
all
at
once
and
they're
fairly
new,
but
a
combination
of
the
rental
and
the
capitalization
rate
do
come
into
play
and
they
should
be
used
carefully
with
that,
just
as
you
would
use
grading
for
quality
or
grading
for
condition
in
the
cost
approach.
G
It
should
be
understood
that
some
of
our
values
excuse
me
using
the
income
approach
are
set
by
state
law.
If
it's
qualified,
affordable
rental
housing,
we
have
a
little
choice
but
to
use
the
HUD
rents
and
the
cap
rates
that
are
given
to
us
and
quite
often
those
come
in
a
substantial
amount
lower
than
what
they
would
be
if
they
were
quote
unquote.
Market
rents,
so.
C
A
C
A
U
I
haven't
I
had
one
reschedule
and
another
one
I
went
to
last
week.
That
was
a
reschedule,
but
that
was
for
tenants
but
I'm
in
Florida,
Ave
and
Gale,
so
it's
mostly
single
family,
home
and
then
St
Michaels
had
set
up
some
coordination,
but
that
was
fine,
okay,
I
think,
probably
when
I
get
closer
into
town,
you
know
into
the
city,
it's
going
to
be
a
different,
a
little
different
but
I
would
say
most
of
the
residents
they're
happy
that
it's
taking
place,
as
so.
O
U
Ask
them
about
interior
updates.
Maybe
they've
done
the
basement
over
and
I
explained
to
them
that
I
really
don't
want
to
guess
on
the
inside
of
their
house,
and
typically
people
are
open
to
talking
to
me.
So
I
haven't
been
shut
down
per
se
by
a
property
owner
in
when
you
ski.
Yet,
if
that
answers
your
question
no.
G
On
that
score,
both
Courtney
and
I
did
work
through
covid
last
24
months
or
so,
and
we
understand
if
someone
has
an
immune
problem
or
they
simply
emotionally
can't
allow
someone
in
their
house.
There
are
legitimate
reasons
why
we
shouldn't
go
in
or
we
should
reschedule
and
Courtney's
being
home.
Tonight
is
a
perfect
example,
but
she
and
I
both
have
contracted
it
and
we're
sensitive.
B
F
N
U
I
do
have
an
interpreter
as
far
as
like
on
an
app
on
my
phone
I
actually
used
to
use
it
when
I
used
to
do
work
in
Winooski,
occasionally,
unless
they
reach
out
to
Janet
and
ask
specifically
I
mean
well,
we
would
obviously
figure
something
out
at
least
so.
The
tenants
know
I
never
ran
into
landlords
not
being
able
to
communicate.
When
I
worked
for
Winooski.
It
was
more
of
tenants
not
knowing
what
was
going
on
and
I
and
I
really
want
tenants
to
know
why
I'm
there
as
well
so.
H
P
Elaine,
so
this
is
Elaine.
I
wanted
to
put
a
slight
finer
point
on
something
that
Ted
said,
which
is
that
the
city
budget
is
developed
based
on
the
dollars
needed
with
consideration
on
the
tax
burden.
It
is
budgets
are
not
based
on.
You
know:
property
values
as
if,
like
if
property
values
go
up,
then
we
would
raise
the
budget
it.
Wouldn't
we
wouldn't
be
doing
that
so
changes
to
your
property
taxes
owed
the
city,
don't
directly
correlate
to
your
property
value.
A
A
G
G
C
G
Because
we
prefer
to
have
everything
right,
the
first
time
the
personal
property
accounts
we
roll
them
over
unless
someone
reports
to
us
that
they
have
moved
or
liquidated
their
assets,
their
personal
business
equipment
and
Machinery
or,
of
course,
once
in
a
while
that
they've
increased
what
they
spent
on
the
equipment
and
Machinery.
But
we
generally
roll
over
what
we
don't
hear,
and
so
these
three
were
rollovers
that
ultimately
moved
out
of
the
city,
those
assets
or
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that's
the
first
three.
G
G
Some
of
them
have
sold
already
and
we
set
up
the
individual
accounts
for
CHT
on
the
20
that
are
built
now,
and
some
are
more
occupied
and
owned
privately,
so
that
they
could
transition
in
there
and
help
the
people
who
are
buying
into
their
understand
that
they,
although
again
because
it's
owner
occupied
qualified,
affordable
housing,
it's
less
than
what
it
would
be.
If
it
were
market
value
housing,
they
still
are
starting
to
contribute
as
owners
in
their
own
individual
tax
bills.
G
C
G
So
we
would
like
you
to
restore
the
the
balance
of
the
land
to
the
city
of
Winooski.
The
and
the
0.47
Acres
will
become
what
we
call
an
inactive
parcel
with
no
value
because
again
the
20
people
who
are
buying
the
units
there
on
that.
So
that's
five
out
of
the
seven,
the
the
sixth
one.
We
don't
know
how
mechanically
that
property
value
got
dropped,
but
they
were
advised
that
we.
C
G
Going
to
come
before
you
after
grievance
process
to
restore
it
to
the
old
value
of
2021,
which
is
a
lot
less
than
what
they
paid
for
it,
but
that's
similar
to
what's
going
on
in
the
city
now.
So
the
value
that
we
want
to
put
in
the
grand
list
to
create
a
tax
bill
for
is
exactly
what
they
value
was
last
year
and
that
we
don't
know
why
it
was
goose
egg
down.
We
just
can't
explain
it.
There
is
good.
C
G
Control,
it's
not
anything
that
someone
came
in
and
hacked
it
was
either
my
fault
or
someone
else's.
Who
does
have
access
to
the
software
and
again
I
apologize
or
feel
badly
that
we're
coming
before
you
for
that.
The
final
one,
which
is
significant,
is
the
one
in
East
Allen:
that's
qualified,
affordable
housing.
G
We
we
do
the
value
reduction
differently
than
in
other
municipalities,
and
we
got
a
call
from
the
cathedral
folks
who
own
it
and
said
hey.
Why
doesn't
this
reflect
the
change
on
the
building
on
the
right
as
you're,
going
towards
St
Mike's,
which
has
been
finished
for
a
year
or
two
that
did
get
the
discount
I
talked
to
the
president,
CEO
of
Cathedral
explained
to
him
what
they
had
an
opportunity
in
in
1920
when
that
was
built
and
and
ramped
up
and
occupied
to
grieve.
G
There's
no
change
in
22
to
that
value,
but
the
one
across
the
street
was
complete.
It
just
it
was
missed.
So
when
we
got
a
call
on
those
two
I
said:
oh
boy,
you
know
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
good
night
for
me
to
go
in
front
of
the
city
council
and
add
that
900
000
value
to
their
property
and
they're
aware
of
it.
They
were
given
the
the
opportunity
to
come
in
and
find
out
what
we
did.
G
G
A
G
Our
we
send
the
forms
to
everybody,
we
know
three
or
four
years
ago
we
we
went
online
and
we
took
everybody
who's
Incorporated.
With
this
key
and
we
sent
out
150
new
letters
to
people.
Some
people
said:
how
did
you
get
my
name
and,
and
you
know
they
just
Incorporated
with
an
uniski
address.
One
was
a
kid
in
high
school
who
had
gone
on
to
college
and
graduated.
G
He
said
how'd,
you
get
my
name
well,
you
Incorporated
a
business
in
Winooski
and
he
said
well
that
was
to
make
some
money
during
college
and
I'm.
Not
you
know,
and
so
now
what
we
do
is
we
do
a
windshield
survey
of
the
city
and
if
there's
a
new
address,
we
send
them
a
form
on
the
February
or
so
of
of
the
year
when
they've
created,
so
they
they
were
not
on
in
I,
don't
know
if
they're
in
the
grant
list
for
this
year,
they.
N
G
N
G
The
three
that
are
going
off
theoretically
I
suppose
they
could
come
back
and
say:
hey
we
paid
21,
that's
an
abatement
process
through
the
board
of
abatement
and
and
likewise,
while
the
city,
the
the
mechanics
of
getting
the
city
to
pay
taxes
on
the
O'brien
Center
is
something
that
still
escapes
me,
but
I.
Suppose
the
city
could
come
back
and
say
you
know.
Tax
bill
was
a
little
high,
but.
G
A
A
R
A
P
R
No
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
more
history
on
the
memorandum
was
a
Irene.
It
was
designed
by
City
staff
and
the
board
of
directors
of
downtown
when
you
see
in
2018
in
preparation
for
bringing
on
full-time
staff
for
the
first
time.
So
now
we
have
been
reviewing
it
yearly
and
updating
as
needed,
but
it
was
very
you
know,
thoughtfully,
designed
back
in
2018
and
has
been
reviewed
every
year
subsequently.
So
we're
just
back
here
again
to
continue
that
process
and
I
do
think
that
you
know
looking
at
other
downtowns.
C
R
Talking
to
them,
there
are
some
memorandums
or
some
contracts
or
whatever
the
agreement
is
between
the
municipality
and
a
downtown.
Some
of
them
are
reviewed
yearly,
but
the
memorandum
or
the
contract
is
for
multiple
years.
So
that's
something
to
consider
for
the
future,
but
for
now
I
do
think
the
yearly
review
makes
sense.
H
A
R
R
We
don't
live
within
the
municipality,
so
we
are
able
to
be
agile
and
as
capacity
allows
or,
as
you
know,
a
desire
to
complete
things
allows
we
can
jump
on
things
that
arrive
so
or
sorry
that
arrives
so,
for
example,
The
Pride
event
was
something
that
was
not
on
the
membrane
of
understanding
for
last
year,
but
we're
glad
to
take
that
on
so
I
do
think
that
the
Signature
Events
list
could
be
updated
with
that.
With
that
event,
in
the
future.
A
R
Was
a
new
idea
that
Elaine
and
I
discussed
just
thinking?
Wouldn't
that
be
nice
if
we
could
just
have
that
document
living
in
addition
to
this
review,
so
my
my
feeling
would
be
that
it
would
be
offset
from
from
this
review,
but
it
could
be
something
else
and
that
would
be
discussed
between
myself
or
my
board
and
City
staff
to
make
sure
that
the
the
most
you
know,
pressing
information
is
presented
at
the
right
time.
R
R
R
The
the
reasons
behind
this
mou
were
to
be
completely
Frank.
Twofold
one
was
to
create
this
like
beautiful
document
with
Clarity
between
the
city
and
the
organization,
and
the
other
reason
was
to
sort
of
push
the
organization
into
this
professionalized
capacity.
There
had
never
been
a
full-time
staff
member,
the
the
board
was
incredibly
passionate,
but
they
had
been
operating
as
a
entirely
volunteer
board
for
several
years.
There
was
quite
a
lot
of
burnout
going
on
so
when
City
staff
and
the
board
designed
this
document.
R
N
N
L
N
R
You
have
that
for
sure
and
I
agree
that
that
infographic,
that
we
create
we
create
that
every
year,
so
that
can
definitely
be
a
bonus.
A
bonus
addition
to
the
report,
one
of
one
of
myth
but
I
agree-
I
mean
I,
think
that
without
getting
too
much
into
the
weed
you
know
any
metric
can
always
be
adjusted,
but
we
did
our
best.
R
A
lot
of
them
are
qualitative
or
qualitative,
just
based
on
the
work
that
we
do,
but
I
do
think
they're
pretty
thoughtful.
So
certainly
the
first
time
that
we
submit
a
report
to
the
city's
Council,
there
can
be
adjustments
made
to
Future
reports.
If
there
are
any
questions
about
what
those
metrics
are
and
how
we
chose
them.
L
D
Meredith
thanks
for
putting
together
this
mou
or
doing
this
again
on
a
yearly
basis,
I'm
glad
we
get
to
do
this
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
like
one
thing
or
one
area,
you'd
identify
as
like
the
biggest
substantive
change,
there's
a
lot
of
like
adjustments
and
I
think
a
lot
of
them
speak
to
themselves
and
what
I'm
doing
if
there's
one
that
you
feel
is
like
significant
from
your
perspective
for
how
you
manage
the
organization.
R
You
know,
certainly
the
downtown
when
you
see
the
organization
has
always
been
not
always
that
has
current
recently
been
very
aligned
with
the
municipality
in
terms
of
the
economic
Vitality
goals,
and
we
work
with
the
previous
Tito
very
closely,
and
now
that
there's
changes
on
the
city
Staffing
side,
you
can
see
that
pepper
throughout.
There
are
just
a
few
adjustments
to
reflect
that
our
work
is
going
to
be
kind
of
the
Venn
diagram
of
our
work
and
what
the
speedo
did
is
kind
of
moving
together
a
little
bit.
R
I
was,
you
know,
pretty
cautious
and
pushed
back
quite
a
bit
on
something
just
knowing
capacity
limitations,
but
I
feel
pretty
confident
that
this
mou
is
very
reflective
of
what
our
current
work
is
and,
to
be
completely
honest,
the
changes
that
were
made
to
the
mou
last
year
were
not
as
substantive
as
they
maybe
should
have
been.
So.
A
few
of
the
changes
here
that
are
reflected
are
actually
reflected
of
multiple
years
of
kind
of
adjustments
of
what
our
work
has
been
and
what
our
relationships
have
been
to
the
municipality.
R
So
that's
what
I
would
say
overall
is
that
peppered
throughout.
You
see
that
continued
strengthening
of
the
alignment
between
our
organization
and
the
municipalities,
goals,
which
I'm
really
proud
of
it's,
not
something
that
all
downtown
organizations
have
to
be
completely
honest.
There's
there's
quite
a
bit
of
strife
in
a
lot
of
our
Vermont
downtowns
and
across
the
country.
R
Yeah,
absolutely,
and
that
would
be
done
in
conjunction
with
City
staff.
We
work
really
closely
with
the
state
designating
body,
and
so
the
downtown
organization
would
certainly
be
at
the
table
there.
Whether
we
would
be
leading
that
discussion
or
facilitating
it
I
believe
there
is
a
point
in
the
in
you
now
that
reflect
that
we
would
be
a
part
of
that
moving
forward.
L
R
L
C
A
C
R
Also
make
sure
that
our
graphics
and
maps
and
other
things
that
we
create
other
content
is
more,
is
accessible
so,
whether
that's
using
really
specific
icons
or
it's
using
recording
things
or
other
translations.
We
are
going
to
be
really
focused
on
that.
So,
as
a
part
of
that,
we
are
talking
to
our
web
developer,
about
the
possibility
of
plugins
or
other
ways
that
we
can
incorporate
a
job
board
or
things
like
it.
R
The
current
way
that
we
would
run
a
job
board
would
be
impossible
to
manage,
with
the
amount
of
time
that
we
have
it
with
just
the
capacity
isn't
there
but
I
think
with
the
the
new
website.
We
could
support
sort
of
a
self
pop.
You
know
somewhere
where
someone
comes
in
and
puts
their
own
information
in,
so
we're
looking
at
that.
R
Hopefully
it's
not
cost
prohibitive,
but
certainly
if
it's
something
that
we
identify
this
year
during
this
website
update
and
we
identify
okay,
the
cost
is
prohibitive
for
us
this
year,
but
we
know
what
to
do.
Then.
We
could
specifically
fundraise
for
it
in
the
future,
so
it
may
not
happen
soon,
but
it's
certainly
on
our
radar
and
will
be
much
more
functional
with
our
new
or
much
more
possible.
Excuse
me
with
our
new
functional
website,.
P
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
Meredith
brought
up
a
great
point
in
terms
of
equity,
with
regarded
with
regards
to
a
virtual
jobs
board
that
was
self-serve
for
employers.
It
would
be
very
likely
that
our
smaller
employers,
or
perhaps
our
English
or
what
do
you
call
it
limited
English
proficiency
business
owners-
would
have
trouble
with
that.
So
it's
something
to
keep
in
mind
that
Meredith
brought
up
in
terms
of
expectations
for
a
self-served
version,
so
right.
C
R
That,
even
if
we
do
have
a
a
a
plug-in
or
I,
don't
know
what
the
other
word
would
be.
That
would
be
self-serve.
There
would
likely
still
be
some
capacity
and
time
needed
to
hand
hold
for
certain
groups
just
to
to
highlight
or
to
just
to
make
sure
that
we
were
being
Equitable,
but
knowing
that
we
wouldn't
potentially
be
able
to
capture
certain
audiences
in
an
equitable
way,
which
you
know
is
always
a
priority.
A
F
N
B
A
A
I
But
happy
to
introduce
Elise,
Carlson
Paul
she's
here
in
the
attendee
list.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
when
you
were
over
but
Mary
and
Aurora
and
I
have
the
opportunity
to
interview
at
least
a
couple
weeks
ago
for
the
safe,
healthy
connected
people,
commission
had
a
great
interview
and
feel
really
good
about
adding
her
to
the
team
and
yeah.
A
A
T
Absolutely
so
my
name
is
Elise
Carlson
pronouncer.
She,
her
I,
have
put
them
when
you
see
now
for
about
two
years
as
a
first-time
homeowner
I
do
have
an
education
as
well
as
a
professional
background
in
healthcare,
Public
Health,
increasing
access
to
healthcare
services
and
I'm,
really
kind
of
looking
to
to
put
that
to
use
and
impact
the
community
in
a
more
meaningful
way.
A
C
I
A
M
Hey
thanks
yeah.
We
are
here
to
appoint
Lauren
Reed
to
the
library
committee
myself
and
the
other
members
of
the
library
committee
interviewed
Lauren
about
a
month
ago
we
had
some
great
applicants
and
Lauren
really
stood
out
for
a
dedication
to
the
community
and
also
is
just
a
great
patron
of
the
Windows
key
Library.
A
B
A
W
Thank
you
all
very
much
I'm
here
tonight
to
bring
forward
to
you
an
application
for
a
position
on
the
development
Review
Board
of
alternate
for
and
recommend
appointing
Jordan
Matt
to
that
position.
Back
in
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
the
Kevin
Lumpkin,
who
was
our
chair.
His
term
expired
with
the
expiration
of
his
term.
W
M
B
W
A
E
X
E
X
N
C
B
A
F
I
Language
there
and
then
now
requires
fundraising
campaigns
to
be
approved
by
state
Council
and
typically
that
happens
or
will
happen
as
part
of
the
budgetary
process.
But
given
the
the
summer
and
it's
full
scholarships
or
we
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
of
a
head
start
on
replenishing
the
coppers
there
and
get
some
fundraising
activity
going
for
kind.
B
C
I
C
A
A
P
Yes,
so
again,
just
reading
from
the
memo,
so
this
is
a
new
staff
position
within
the
city
and
the
intentions.
That
is
that
it
will
the
position.
Will
research
develop
and
help
Implement
initiatives
that
are
in
line
with
the
city's
housing
goal
and
council's
housing
related
policy
priorities
and
strategies?
P
The
position
will
take
over
and
expand
the
housing
related
aspects
of
the
former
Community
Economic
Development
officer
position.
It
will
not
have
enough
capacity
to
do
the
the
expanded
housing
initiatives
and
take
on
all
of
the
grant
writing
capacity
of
the
former
community
and
economic
development
officer.
P
Now
this
position
will
not
be
limited
to
policy,
since
housing
policy
is
good
at
tweaking
and
limiting
housing,
but
not
good
at
creating
housing,
which
is
kind
of
the
current
need
which
we
do
need
to
create,
affordable
and
three
or
more
bedroom
housing
units
and
improve
housing
quality.
So
that's
why
the
position
is
not
limited
to
policy.
It
is
certainly
part
of
the
position,
so,
instead
it,
the
position
is
designed
to
be
flexible
enough
to
work
on
a
variety
of
needs.
P
That's
why
it's
called
the
Housing
Initiative
director
that
would
likely,
as
I
said,
include
policy
at
times
Capital
attraction
for
closing
the
gap
on
Lower
profit
margin.
Housing
is
one
possibility,
for
example,
affordable
and
High
bedroom
count
units
have
a
lower
profit
margin
or
landlord
and
tenant
education
programming,
as
Council
has
been
discussing,
especially
in
this
last
year.
The
position
is
designed
not
to
be
a
housing
Advocate
position,
since
that
would
become
all-consuming
given
the
needs
in
the
city,
and
it
would
restrict
the
person's
ability
to
advance
systemic
Solutions.
P
P
D
D
As
the
for
the
position
just
haven't
seen
that
many
position
descriptions
say
this
position
will
not
do
these
things
and
I
worry
about
creating
future
situations
where
the
Housing
Initiative
director
really
should
be
convening
a
conference
and
thus
can't
because
it's
not
in
its
position
description
actually
explicitly
rules
that
out
or
if
we
have
rearrangements
to
our
building
inspection
team.
Having
to
update
this
position
description.
If
that
responsibility
change
is
in
another
position,
so
I
guess
I
I
appreciate
the
need
to
bound
the
work
since
it
is.
P
Actually
yeah,
so
that's
a
good
point
now
that
you've
discussed
it
in
this
venue.
It
occurs
to
me
that,
because
you're
approving
the
scope,
it
would
be
wise
not
to
limit
the
scope
so
that
we
don't
have
to
come
back
to
you.
If
we
want
to
revise
that.
So
that's
something
that
I
would
put
in
the
initial
job
description
which
we
can
revisit
as
often
as
needed,
probably
not
more
than
annually.
J
P
So
this
is
a
I
think
of
it
more
of
a
like
nested
at
mall,
I
was
going
to
say
nested
umbrellas,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
helpful.
So
this
is
the
overall
like
this
is
within
the
bounds
of
what
we
can
do
operationally
like
we,
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
outside
of
this
without
coming
back
to
you.
P
N
P
I
should
say
it
depends
on
the
initiatives,
but
that's
the
flexibility
of
the
position
is,
if
you
can,
if
you
can
dream
up
enough
of
work
for
the
for
the
year,
then
yes
and
I
anticipate
that
there
is
enough
at
this
point
for
this
coming
year
and
then
with
a
good
person.
They
would
continually
be
able
to
develop
a
work
plan
for
subsequent
years
and.
P
I
mean
we
have
a
fairly.
What
do
you
call
it
flat
organization,
so
there
isn't
much
advancement
in
general.
There
is
the
opportunity
for
changes
in
in
responsibility.
However,
especially
given
the
initiative
title
like
it
could
morph
over
time,
depending
on
the
person
they
could
change,
we
could
even
change
the
grade,
so
that
would
be
the
type
of
advancement
it's
not
necessarily
in
terms
of
title,
but
it
could
be
in
terms
of
responsibility.
P
Right,
so
if
you
look
at
our
our
grades
and
who
what
the
titles
are
currently,
that
was
the
one
that
seemed
to
match
the
other
ones,
but
it's.
It
is
a
little
bit
inconsistent,
as
folks
here
have
pointed
out,
so
that
was
the
initial
thought
is
that
they
would
be
shaping
then
like.
If
you
just
look
at
it
separately
from
the
grades,
then
they
would
be
shaping
the
direction
that
the
housing
initiatives
would
take,
which
to
me,
is
more
of
a
director
rather
than
a
manager.
N
P
N
Can
I
just
ask
one
more
follow-up
question
I
think
when
we
were
meeting
about
strategies
and
priorities,
we
talked
about
the
need
for
a
grants
and
contracts
manager.
So,
given
that
it
stated
here
that
this
rule
will
not,
that
will
not
be
within
scope
for
that
for
that
for
this
new
FTA,
how
is
that
going
to
be
accounted
for.
P
Currently,
in
the
budget,
it
is
not
well
I
shouldn't,
say
that
so
for
this
year,
there's
a
bit
of
savings
because
we're
without
either
position
the
cedo
or
the
new
housing.
So
there
is
the
potential
to
use
that
savings
to
contract
out,
for
that
work
and
I
should
say
well,
I
shouldn't
say,
but
there
is
the
option
of
the
former
Seattle
person
because
they
have
the
capacity
and
they
have
a
very
still
pretty
current
knowledge
of
the
city
to
do
those
applications
efficiently.
Of
course,
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
need
to.
P
We
need
to
use
that
person
always
going
forward
into
perpetuity
in
terms
of
the
my
thought
would
be
that
we
would
need
to
build
that
into
the
budget
in
future
years,
and
you
know,
of
course
that
has
to
be
balanced
with
everything
else.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
will
stay
in
our
budget,
even
that
we
propose
to
council,
but
that's
I,
don't
see
a
way
to
do
that
without
raising
taxes
at
this
time
without
having
seen
all
the
budget
proposals
yet.
P
Okay,
this
seems
to
me
to
be
an
important
and
big
enough
position
that
they-
wouldn't
you
wouldn't
want
them
to
be
doing
non-housing
related
grants
on
a
regular
basis.
Certainly
you
know,
as
other
staff
have
pointed
out,
some
topics
are
going
to
be
indirectly
related,
like
Economic
Development,
related
initiatives
and
grants.
So
there
could
be
a
reason
there
could
be
a
justification
for
that
and
that's
covered
in
the
indirect
indirectly
related
to
housing,
Grant
applications
and
the
scope.
J
So,
with
some
of
the
goal
to
to
increase
staff
retention
with
this
work,
hopefully
both
with
housing
and
then
possible.
If
we
do
create
a
grants
position
going
forward
because
some
things
are
being
burdened
with,
you
know
two
or
things
that
should
be
two
or
three
jobs
as
you
burn
out,
and
you
leave.
P
P
They
need
to
be
informed,
so
the
the
code
enforcement
program
is
one
Avenue.
We
do
have
the
housing
complaint
form
for
a
very
specific
minimum
code:
violation
type
complaints,
but
yes,
there
is,
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
consultative
process
so
that
they're
not
just
operating
it
in
a
vacuum,
but
I
would
want
the
that
to
be
develop
thoughtfully
with
the
person
so
that
again,
they're
not
overwhelmed
by
trying
to
serve
the
community.
This
is
the
position
that
the
equity
director
was
in.
O
Yeah
I
think
when
residents
here
that
we've
hired
a
Housing
Initiative
director
they're,
going
to
think
this
is
somebody
to
be
to
have
them
directly
with
housing.
So
I
feel
like
that
will
have
to
be
messaged,
but
also
with
this
person
I
don't
know,
I
can
see
it
being
very.
It
might
be
difficult
for
them
to
not
run
into
those
situations
with
residents
where
they're
seeking
out
their
help
right.
A
Well,
I
do
like
the
you
know,
there's
a
partner
about
managing
stakeholder
relationships
and
I.
Think
that
is
one
of
the
like
consultative
processes.
They're
going
to
hear
from
folks
are
already
in
direct
contact
with
residents
here
and
use
that
to
inform
strategy,
and
also
this
is
something
we've
talked
about
before,
like
there
are
existing
organizations
that
will
help
residents
that
we
are
just
not
really
coordinated
with,
because
we
don't
have
anyone
dedicated
to
doing
that.
B
K
K
P
Currently,
that
means
a
mix
of
quality
housing
that
maintains
and
enhances
winuski's,
unique
sense
of
plate
place
and
supports
the
needs
of
the
entire
community,
so
they
would
be
developed
or
developing
or
maintaining
relationships
with
stakeholders,
staff,
the
Housing
Commission,
develop
quantitative
and
qualitative
data
reports
and
apply
for
and
manage
grants
they
would
be
managing
the
Housing
Trust
Fund,
keep
current
with
issues,
housing
related
issues
and
potentially
supervise
the
work
of
technical
contractors,
and
that's
about
it.
Okay,.
K
K
K
D
C
B
D
I
just
want
to
say,
I'm
excited
to
see
this
position.
I've
been
hearing
from
the
housing
commission
for
two
years
that
this
increasing
capacity
for
working
on
housing
in
the
city
is
has
been
holding
us
back
from
doing
what
we
could
do
on
housing.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
this
actually
coming
into
a
written
form.
So
thank
you
for
getting
to
getting
it
to
this
place
and
putting
it
before
us.
A
N
Y
I,
don't
have
a
percentage
number
a
lot
of
the
grants
that
that
position
obtained
were
Capital
grants
for
major
projects
that
you
see
in
your
leverage
funds
report.
In
the
budget
book
there
were
some
pretty
significant
dollar
amounts.
We
have
not
been
able
to
utilize
all
of
the
grants
that
that
position
had
obtained
because
of
timing
issues
in
covid,
but
it
was
over
a
million
dollars.
N
P
P
A
I
also
add
the
decrease
grant
writing
capacity,
not
great,
but
we
are
actively
involved
in
several
extremely
large
Grant
funded
projects
like
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
capacity
we
would
have
anyway,
to
be
taking
on
additional
to
be
pursuing
a
lot
of
additional
grant
funding
right
now.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
think
about
too.
A
C
A
I
have
added
here
a
high
level
sort
of
what
Outreach
might
look
like
if
we
were
to
pursue
a
no-cause
eviction,
Charter
change
and
then
staff
Elaine
has
included
a
memo
here.
You
know
staff
shared
concerns
about
this
at
our
last
meeting,
and
so
she
has
outlined
what
those
might
be
I
wonder
if
you
want
to
start
by
like
summarizing
that.
B
P
P
So
if
you
make,
if
Council
takes
input
and
makes
any
substantive
changes
to
the
initially
worn
language
that
restarts
the
two
hearing
clock,
so
how
long
it
takes
is
it
depends,
but
at
minimum
it
would
take
two
months
plus.
You
would
want
to
give
hopefully
staff
enough
time
to
get
the
ballots
printed
and
then
distributed
also
note
that
lengthening
that
time
is
you'd
want
the
an
attorney
to
review
the
language
because
Charter
languages,
that
is
your
Baseline
document
that
we're
that
dictates
how
we
operate.
P
P
That's
what
I
seem
like
that's
where
that
came
from
so
just
using
that
as
an
example
not
claiming
that
that's
where
you
would
land
but
as
an
example,
I
might
took
each
of
the
provisions
Point
by
point
a
few
of
those
I
will
say
they
were
minor
so,
for
example,
language
allowing
a
reasonable
grace
period
regarding
non-payment
of
rent.
That's
probably
a
minor
thing.
Those
that
require
substantive
work
include
making
sure
that
we
can
develop
defensible,
enforceable
definitions,
defensible
and
unforceable
takes
a
lot
of
work.
P
Those
two
words
so
also
assessing
whether
this
would
discourage
landlords
from
renting
to
preserve,
to
perceived
risky
renters
and
assessing
whether
this
type
of
language
would
discourage
property
owners
and
developers
from
developing
rental
housing.
I,
don't
think
I'm
making
too
political
a
statement
to
say
that
we
all
want
to
make
sure
that
renters
who
are
doing
everything
fine,
are
not
subject
to
indiscriminate
eviction.
However,
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
having
unintended
consequences,
which
is
a
just
an
overall
common
risk
with
writing,
Charter
language
or
policies
or
ordinances.
J
P
So
my
response
to
that
from
the
staff
perspective
is
that
we
don't
know
so.
Your
first
question
is
that
is
that
a
problem
that
we
wouldn't
attract
people
who
would
be
discouraged
by
just
cause
of
fiction-
I,
don't
know
that's
the
problem.
I,
don't
I
can't
advise
you
based
on
what
we
know
right
now.
Would.
C
P
D
And
I
think
we
also
have
to
remember
that
viewing
this
as
a
change
that
we
make
at
this
moment
in
time
feels
safer
to
me
than
it
did
when
I
first
started
on
Council,
which
is
not
that
long
ago,
when
we
were
definitely
walking
a
line
between
being
forward-looking
and
protective,
but
not
so
protected
that
we're
pushing
development
to
other
areas
right
now
we
don't
have
that
problem.
There
is
more
demand
than
there
is
Supply,
and
that
may
not
always
be
the
case
and
this
because
this
is
a
long,
lasting,
durable
change.
D
I
think
that
that
is
a
really
challenging
question
to
answer,
because
we
don't
have
to
just
answer
for
this
moment
in
time.
We
have
to
answer
for
the
economic
and
market
conditions
we
had
four
years
ago,
because
those
could
be
four
years
from
now
and
so
I,
don't
think
I
think
right
now
the
answer
is
we
probably
have
a
different
owner
and
Builder
come
in,
maybe
not
later,
and
so.
I
do
think
that
that
needs
to
that
thought.
D
Experiment
does
need
to
happen
and
that's
why
I
think
it
is
a
really
important
point
that
and
I
think
from
my
understanding
of
the
memo
that
was
put
forward
last
time,
and
still
the
issue
to
consider
is
whether
we
explore
this
further
I.
Think
that
absolutely
should
be
a
question
that
we
explore
at
the
commission.
Explores
it
depth
in
depth
of
the
council
explores
in
depth
for
the
deadline,
if
we're
trying
to
make
a
certain
date.
D
Q
P
Oh,
and
my
last
point
was
that
there
are
budget
implications
for
Staffing
and
for
resourcing
enforcement,
so
and
I
will
say
that
this
isn't
I'm.
Not
it's
not
my
job
to
discourage
you
from
exploring
a
policy
like
that
is
actually
your
job,
like
you
decide
what's
right
for
the
city
at
this
time,
and
you
ask
for
guidance
on
how
to
do
it.
O
F
O
And
just
to
reaffirm
and
I
think
it
was
understood,
although
this
is
something
that
I
agree,
we
should
look
into
and
I.
We
had
set
a
timeline
in
the
memo
when
I
think
you
should.
We
set
a
timeline
for
a
desire
to
start
to
get
this
conversation
moving
if
it
has
to
take
longer,
so
the
staff
can
do
it
right
and
everything
can
happen
so
that
it
can
be
defensible
and
whatnot
I
would
be
happier
for
it
to
take
a
longer
time
and
for
us
to
just
not
do
it
at
all.
A
I
just
wanted
to
call
out
the
the
latter
section
of
your
memo
Elaine
on
the
amount
should
we
pass,
a
charter
change,
get
our
Charter
change
approved
and
then
have
to
create
new
ordinance
and
procedures
to
be
involved
in
evictions,
which
we
currently
are
not
like
locally.
We
don't
do
that.
That's
not
managed
here.
A
A
It
sounds
to
me
like
they're,
taking
this
up,
no
matter
what
so
I,
don't
I
personally,
don't
feel
like
we
should
be
rushing
towards
a
charter
change
on
town
meeting
day
for
something
that
is
likely
to
be
going
through
the
legislature
anyway,
given
the
amount
of
effort
that
would
be
needed,
particularly
on
the
staff
staff
side,
let
alone
the
Outreach
work
we
would
be
doing
I
did
want
to
share
as
an
alternative.
You
know
we
have
heard
support
from
some
community
members
for
wanting
to
vote
on
this.
We
can
have
a
ballot
item.
A
L
J
A
This
is
another
thing
that
I
was
thinking
about.
Is
the
residents
who
contact
me
about
housing
instability?
The
stories
I
hear
are
about
their
rent
being
increased
to
a
degree.
They
can't
afford
that
sort
of
forces
them
out.
It
is
not
people
that
are
getting
evicted
typically,
which
is
why
I
mentioned
in
this
memo
too,
like
there
are
other
avenues,
legislative
Avenues
or
policy
avenues
that
could
be
pursued.
That
may
have
greater
impact
than
the
specific
measure.
J
B
D
If
we
can
move
it
forward
how
we
would
move
forward,
it
sounds
like
there's
potential
risk
to
actually
getting
to
a
charter
change,
because
it
could
obligate
us
to
do
new
work
that
we
currently
well
like
I,
said
question
whether
this
is
a
Housing
Initiative
and
there
is
a
person
that
will
come
on
with
capacity
to
do.
This
I
recognize
that
it's
not
the
right
capacity
for
what
you
need
in
terms
of
dealing
with
complaints,
but
if.
D
Should
we
explore
some
form
of
eviction
protection
and
what
does
that
look
like
and
again
that
answer
to
that
could
be
a
legislative
position
resolution
that
we
put
on
the
ballot.
It
could
be
a
charter
change
that
we
put
on
the
ballot.
It
could
just
be
a
letter
we
all
signed
and
sent
to
our
local
legislative
leaders,
and
we
could
do
anything
out
of
that
recommendation.
But
the
question
is:
do
we
want
to
do
more
work
on
this
now
or
not
like
I?
D
So
I
guess
I
just
see
that
there
are
many
ways
forward.
It
doesn't
mean
that
by
saying
we're
going
to
explore
this
more
we're
committing
to
one
of
these
paths,
it
means
that
we're
asking
for
a
group
to
spend
time
fleshing
this
out
because
we
aren't
having
that
debate
right
now.
We
don't
have
the
information
to
have
that
debate
right
now.
It's
your
memo
points
out.
We
don't
have
the
information
we
need
to
have
that
debate.
It
would
take
time
and
work
to
give
the
Housing
Commission
information.
D
They
need
to
have
that
conversation,
but
it
is
not.
It
does
not
need
to
be
fully
drafting
an
ordinance
either
they
could
do
a
more
limited
scope
conversation,
so
we
could
direct
them
to
only
explore.
Should
we
consider
a
charter
chain?
Should
we
consider
a
letter?
Should
we
consider
a
bond
or
a
ballot
resolution
directing
the
pledge
or
asking
the
legislature
to
take
action
like
we
could
do
all
those
things
based
on
a
recommendation
from
the
Housing
Commission,
so
I
think
just
I
want
to
kind
of
pull
us
back
from
like?
D
B
N
P
B
N
P
B
N
You
know,
I,
don't
know
what
it
would
take
to
do
that,
but
I'd
be
interested
in
seeing
like.
Are
there
some
lower
barrier
actions
that
we
can
take
in
a
shorter
time
period,
in
addition
to
the
efforts
of
exploring
larger
conversations
of
Charter
changes,
but
I
I
would
want
to
not
get
too
headstrong
into
Charter
change
conversation
without
and
basically
not
seeing
the
forest
for
the
trees,
if
I'm,
even
using
that
reference
correctly
but
I,
think
you
get
my
contract,
so
I
I
am
in
agreement
with
you
about.
J
J
L
J
P
The
no
the
one
comment
I
had
in
passing
you've
heard
already
from
wha
that
you
want
to
consider
the
impact
of
forcing
a
landlord
to
use
just
cause
eviction
when
there's
actually
sometimes
a
rental
protection.
When
you
do
no
cause
eviction
because
they
can
keep
their
voucher.
That
was
the
only
comment
I've
gotten
so
far
and
then
to
in
response
to
your
Burlington
point
fair
point:
I
did
make
an
assumption.
I
didn't
ask
them.
P
I
made
the
Assumption,
based
on
their
frequently
asked
questions
about
that
Charter
change
that
they
have
not
drafted
their
ordinance.
They
wanted
this
to
come.
First
I'm
sure
there's
been
some
work
done
on
the
on
the
back
end
and
I
could
find
out
about
that.
But
I
don't
think
the
work
that
I'm
referring
to
here
I,
don't
believe
it's
been
done,
but
that's
not
the
same
as
knowing
it's
not
been
done.
A
So,
coming
back
to
your
question
or
how
you
framed
it
about
like
making
some
forward
motion,
we
don't
have
a
Housing,
Initiative
director,
yet
I
think
we
should
be
waiting
for
that
position
to
be
staffed
to
tackle
this,
so
that
the
Housing
Commission
has
support.
This
is
a
policy
issue
when
they
are
in
a
the
Housing.
A
A
J
I
I
wonder
too,
if
we're
talking
about
some
smaller
bites
in
the
bill
as
passed
by
the
House
and
Senate
section
c
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
the
items
listed
there,
which
specifically
touch
on
the
negative
impacts
of
the
smaller
landlords,
the
impacts
of
providing
a
reasonable
probationary
period
after
initial
occupancies,
again
a
limit
unreasonable,
rent
increases.
There
might
be
some
items
there
that
again
maybe
there's
language,
and
maybe
research
already
done
that
are
touching
on
these
quorum,
lower,
lift
with
a
high
impact.
N
J
L
A
D
Q
D
A
I
I
think
I
heard
from
this
body
in
August.
We
do
want
to
explore
eviction
protection.
My
interpretation
was
that
this
evening's
question
was
specifically
about
a
charter
change,
but
I
I
think
it's.
You
know
we
just
had
that
chairs
meeting
in
service
of
commission
work
planning,
and
so
if
that
discussion
hasn't
happened
yet
well,
probably
not
because
you
don't
have
staff
support
right
now.
B
D
D
More
of
a
priority
than
look
because
I
think
that
the
choices
between
the
public
building
registry
and
prediction
protections,
though
I'm
in
favor,
of
exploring
this
aggressively
I've
the
public
building
registry,
has
to
take
priority
in
my
mind.
So
if
the
Housing
Commission
does
expresses
that
opinion
too,
then
that
would
be
I
think
a
pretty
clear
signal
to
us
on
what
we
can
accomplish
and
what
we
have
sep
and
address
the
staff
capacity
piece
as
well.
So.
D
D
P
A
A
B
K
Here
and
talk
about
this
after
all,
I'm
just
wondering
my
name
is
Thomas
lockettel
I,
just
wonder
if
someone
can
clarify
for
me
about
the
governor's
veto
on
the
bill
in
the
legislature.
This
past
session
on
this
issue
was
that
specifically
for
the
Burlington
change,
Charter
change,
so
it
wasn't
a
Statewide
thing.
Okay,
thank
you.
Another
thing,
I
just
would
kind
of
like
to
get
a
feel
for
what
the
urgency
is.
What
are
the
people
in
the
city,
the
renters,
the
landlords?
K
How
much
urgency
is
there
on
the
part
of
renters
who
want
this
to
go
through
because
of
the
inflation
and
all
the
rent
this
year,
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
would
like
to
see
this
go
through
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
opinions
of
the
landlords
are
and
I
see
a
possible
negative
unintended
consequence
of
this.
If
you
do
try
to
push
something
through
on
a
charter
change,
it
might
make
landlords
want
to
lock
in
higher
rents
right
now
and
that
wouldn't
help
anybody.
K
So
I
see
that
as
a
downside,
you
got
to
consider
that
that
you
know
renters.
Could
landlords
could
push
back
against
this
pretty
hard
and,
if
there's
any
way
to
piggyback
on
what
other
people
have
done
like
Burlington
or
other
places,
I
think
that
would
be
great,
maybe
stretch
out
the
timeline,
but
you
know
still
push
the
needle
in
the
direction
that
it
needs
to
go.
K
That's
about
all
I
have
I'm
not
informed
on
this
very
well,
except
on
an
anecdotal
basis.
So
I'd
just
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
how
to
general
public
here.
How
do
they
really
feel
about
it,
and
is
it
a
democratic
issue
as
far
as
like
the
majority
should
have
to
say
about
it
and
how
does
that
fit
in?
If
you
did
put
it
to
a
vote?
What
would
be
the
I
mean
I
think
we
could
probably
guess
that
it
would
pass.
A
Displacement
so
it's
eviction,
it's
increasing
rents,
it's
being
sort
of
forced
out
through
just
bad
situations
occurring,
and
so
the
public
building
registry
is
one
Avenue,
so
that
relates
to
how
we
enforce
housing
standards,
which
we've
been
wanting
to
work
on
for
several
years
to
improve
some
of
the
quality
issues
in
the
city
and
I.
Think
advancing
this
discussion
to
our
Housing
Commission
helps
us
figure
out.
What
is
the
approach
to
the
other
issue?
A
B
D
Haven't
done
that
policy
work
on
housing,
quality
and,
like
we
all
know
what
the
code
word
is
it's
just
public
building
registry,
because
that's
why
it's
called
but
I
think
for
you
know
the
broader
discussion,
one
more
thing:
we're
really
waiting
to
potentially
impactful
pieces,
housing,
quality,
work,
eviction,
Protection
work
which
may
both
be
needed,
and
we've
heard
about
both
for
residents
and
I.
I
will
say
a
person
I've
heard
a
lot
more
in
the
housing
quality
side,
which
is
why
it's
one
of
our
enumerated
policy
priorities
this
year.
J
One
of
the
reasons
that
I
think
it's
even
the
just
cause
eviction
is
even
closer.
To
my
mind,
is
a
close
friend
of
mine
just
received
a
new
cause,
eviction
notice,
considering
that
they
were
using
some
of
the
rental
assistance
that
is
now
coming
to
the
end
at
the
end
of
the
year,
makes
me
really
suspicious
and
that's
part
of
the
urgency
I
think
knowing
that
bad
assistance
is
coming
to
the
end,
along
with
the
protections
against
evictions
being
lifted.
J
If
we're
going
to
see
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
people
that
are
affected,
I
can
say
personally
that
I
did
not
apply
for
rent
assistance,
even
when
I
could
qualify
for
it.
Because
of
that
same
fear.
If
that
would
let
my
in
this
case,
property
manager
know
that
I
could
be
in
a
I,
don't
know
give
them
some
kind
of
worry
that
I
would
not
be
able
to
make
rent
and
considering
that
she
sent
out
an
email
to
old
all
her
tenants
to
vote
against
the
Burlington.
J
O
D
So
I
will
check
this
with
you
all.
Is
that
there's
interest
in
both
of
these
there's
a
feeling
of
urgency
in
both
of
these
and
we're
looking
for
their
guidance
and
on
which
to
focus
on
given
the
current
landscape
we
face
as
a
city,
and
that
seems
like
a
fair
charge
and
to
report
back
to
the
council
by
our
October
meeting.
Then
we'll
get
information
back
of
that
right.
A
I
have
partnered
with
the
Burlington
mayor
on
a
breakfast
with
our
shared
legislators:
I,
don't
know
what
that
will
look
like
this
year,
because
now
we
don't
have
the
same
overlap
as
before,
but
in
that
have
put
together
like
legislative
priorities,
and
so
that
is
something
that
I
can
bring
back
to
this
group
sooner
than
I.
Think
last
year,
I
didn't
have
until
December
January,
but
which
could
be
the
basis
for
like
additional
advocacy
right.
So,
even
if
it's
not
moving
forward
some
sort
of
specific
policy,
there
could
be
an
advisory
vote.
A
A
P
A
P
Yes,
so
my
regrets
for
not
sending
the
redline
version
before
today,
so
there
were
quite
a
few
changes.
I'd
say
from
the
version
that
you
saw
at
your
last
meeting.
We
had
an
external
reviewer,
look
at
it
and
then
also
safe,
healthy,
connected
people,
as
Aura
mentioned,
did
have
some
some
changes
to
make
the
one
I
feel
like
it
is
important
to
highlight
is
that
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
unregistered
unincorporated
associations
were
also
eligible.
P
We
do
have
a
few
actually
there's
a
commissioner
who
is
a
member
of
One
I,
don't
know
if
they
have,
you
know
exactly
eligible
if
they
would
be
eligible
for
other
reasons,
but
that
is
a
type
of
organization
that
who's
familiar
with,
and
so
when
he
raised
that
the
rest
of
the
commission
definitely
was
interested
in
making
sure
they
were
eligible.
There
was
some
discussion
about.
P
You
know
the
reason
why
you
have
that
is:
there's
somebody
other
than
City
staff
who
are
not
equipped
to
somebody
who's,
looking
to
see
that
they're,
actually
a
charitable
organization
that
they've
you
know,
met
all
the
criteria
in
this
case
opening
up.
That
means
that
we
don't
have
great
ways
to
check.
There
are
some
questions
that
we
have
worked
into
the
form
that
the
commission
looked
at,
so
you
could
give
a
reference
you
could
give
it
a
beneficiary
or
somebody
who's
from
a
third
party
who's,
familiar
with
your
work
that
we
could.
P
J
I
wanted
to
add
to
that
that
I
do
feel
like,
let's
say
publicly
connected
people.
Commission
really
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
work
into
this,
which
I
think
considering
that
our
initial
run
with
the
small
business
they
weren't,
the
people
who
were
reviewing
those
grants
didn't
feel
comfortable
or
like
they
could
use
the
kind
of
ranking
system
in
a
way
that
was
productive,
but
I
feel
like
coming
out
of
this
with
the
safe,
healthy
connected
people.
Commission
are
feeling
like
they
can.
You
know
really
use
this.
P
Some
of
the
other
changes
were
about
accessibility,
so,
for
example,
a
verbal
report
can
be
requested
and
then
there
was
something
similar
to
that
earlier,
which
I'm
not
finding
right
off,
and
some
of
the
changes
were
cosmetic.
Like
broke
the
organization
types
into
a
bulleted
list,
so
it
would
be
easier
to
to
look
at.
A
I
will
say:
I
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
these
changes
for
the
clarity
and
accessibility.
I
don't
have
concerns
with
most
of
them.
I
am
uncomfortable
with
allowing
unregistered
unincorporated
organizations
to
access
this
program,
groups
that
are
registered
non-profits.
There
is
a
mechanism
in
place
to
address
potential
fraud.
A
There
is
nothing
like
this
feels
high
risk
to
me
that
we're
we're
potentially
putting
I,
don't
know
the
you
could
get
a
reference
you
could.
You
could
check,
but
like
what
activities
they're
up
to
things
could
look
good,
but
if
something
turns,
if
you
know
whoever's
in
charge
of
that
organization,
changes
and
something
fraudulent
does
happen.
There's
no
way
for
us
to
find
out
or
address
that
because
they're
not
like
a
registered
organization.
J
P
N
We
want
to
ensure
that
we're
we
are
supporting
our
non-profit
organizations
while
at
the
same
time
not
putting
our
taxpayer
dollars
at
risk
and
building
on
that
I'm,
not
comfortable
with
the
addition
section
2A.
The
second
closed
Circle
that
says,
organizations
that
have
provided
currently
providing
and
my
discomfort
is
with
or
will
provide
services,
given
that
this
is
Coveted
relief,
related
funds,
I
I
think
that
considerations
should
carry
over
the
same
way.
F
L
P
Could
I
come
in
on
that
one
sure
so
I
don't
have
an
opinion
on
that
just
be
clear,
but
for
your
consideration
there's
two
pieces.
So
there
was
a
recommendation
by
your
Finance
commission
to
consider
a
different
grant
for
businesses
that
started
during
the
pandemic.
So
in
that
way
it
sort
of
mirrors
not
exactly
but
somewhat.
The
other
piece
is
that
so
that
maybe
this
isn't
how
you
intended
it.
P
But
my
interpretation
of
this
grant
program
is
that
it's
to
help
not
the
non-profit
recover
from
covid,
but
the
community
to
recover
from
covet,
whereas
the
business
one
is
for
the
business
to
recover
from
covet
impacts.
So
in
that
case
that
could
be
a
consideration
as
to
why
you
would
want
to
allow
organizations
that
haven't
provided
those
Services
yet
to
apply.
On
the
other
hand,
to
your
point,
there's
no
requirement
to
prove
that
that's
how
they
spent
it.
P
P
A
P
A
N
P
O
L
P
L
J
But
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
and
really
stuck
with
me
from
the
conversation
that
was
had,
especially
from
one
of
the
community
members.
Our
commissioners
was
the
way
that
how
he
was
worried
that
how
it
was
set
up
would
disadvantage
and
I
think
we
saw
that
with
the
small
business
application
that
this
did
happen.
J
C
L
J
Money
I
feel,
like
that's
a
smaller
risk
to
me
than
say,
not
being
able
to
serve
an
organization
that
is
currently
or
doing
really
important
work
and
I.
Also
I
also
feel,
like
I,
want
to
point
out
that
one
right
that
they're
gonna
the
commission
is
going
to
go
through
and
rank
these,
and
then
we
have
the
ultimate
say
too
so
we're
gonna
get
their
recommendations,
so
there
are
additional
checks
and
balances
for
those
concerns
too.
A
Yeah
at
the
initial
outlay,
but
who's
going
to
monitor
if
things
go
awry
later,
there's
two
check-ins
I
generally
just
don't
feel
it's
appropriate.
We
are
entrusted
with
Community
dollars
and
giving
them
to
a
a
an
entity
that
doesn't
have
any
oversight.
Beyond
us
I,
don't
think
we
will
be
able
to
provide
that
kind
of
oversight
in
in
lieu
of
there
being
another
structure.
O
I
guess
I
would
be
interested
to
know
what
type
of
organizations
those
are
that
aren't
incorporated
as
a
501c3
and
like
is,
is
this
really
yeah
and
I
mean
any
organization?
Even
an
incorporated,
one
can
kind
of
go.
Belly
Up
in
the
CFO
can
run
away
with
all
the
money,
but
yeah
I
do
have
a
concern
is
why
would
you
not
have
been
Incorporated
in
some
capacity
if
you're
providing
charitable
services.
P
Well,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
process,
it's
not
huge,
but
if,
if
you're
a
limited,
English
proficiency
person-
and
you
feel
confident
in
your
partners
that
you're
doing
good
stuff-
you
might
not
bother
you
know
so.
For
example,
new
ski
Mutual,
Aid
I,
don't
know
if
they
ever
incorporated
or
registered.
The
Congolese
Association
of
Vermont
does
not
have
a
501c3,
but
they
are
state
registered,
so
they
would
be
eligible
under
your
original
guidelines.
A
Which
is
terrible,
there's
no
checks
and
balances
there.
That's
like
a
huge
red
flag.
We
would
never
do
with
our
own
finances.
I
get
like.
What's
underneath
of
that,
but
I,
don't
in
my
position.
I,
don't
want
to
be
supporting
handing
money
to
a
one-person
bank
account,
but
I've
said
my
piece
on
this
foreign.
N
O
N
P
M
N
P
Yeah,
the
way
this
is
written
is
prioritizing
access.
That
means
that
a
lot
of
it
is
being
left
up
to
the
Judgment
of
the
staff
person.
So
that
would
be
rare
me.
I
was
my
assumption,
so
you
know
that's
something
for
you
to
consider
now
is
if
we
would
want
to
see
something
or
you
would
want
us
to
be
more
codified
about
that,
but
because
the
priority
is
access,
it
is
purposely
not
codified
in
this
proposed
draft
yep.
P
A
J
J
P
L
A
J
J
Registered,
which
would
be
if
it
is
an
unregistered
unincorporated,
charitable
or
Mutual
Aid,
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
them
in
contact
with
someone
that
they
could
partner
with
or
would
be
willing
to
partner
with.
But
again,
that's
would
put
a
lot
of
work
back
on
the
city
unless
there's
like
a
resource
list
like
reach
out
to
do.
P
P
P
A
A
B
D
A
B
A
A
Oh,
the
city
manager,
performance
summary.
This
is
simply
so.
We
we
did
a
review
of
Elaine's
performance
so
far
as
part
of
her
like
probationary
period
and
her
contract
at
a
prior
meeting
and
I.
Just
summarized
the
outcomes
of
that
discussion
here
for
the
public
record
and
for
us
to
refer
to
in
the
future
that
any
questions
or
comments
about
this.
B
A
P
Update
okay,
so
there
are
again,
the
categories
are,
must
do.
Oh,
this
is
for
the
all
category
not
goal
specific.
These
are
cross-cutting,
so
there
are,
three
categories
must
do
recommended
and
new.
Pending
additional
resources,
there
were
10
must-do
items,
five
recommended
and
one
new
idea
of
the
must
do
seven
are
proceeding
as
planned,
including
one
that
hasn't
started
yet,
but
that
was
planned,
two
that
are
slower
than
planned,
they're
both
that
are
related
to
equity.
P
Those
are
slower
because
of
the
departure
of
the
equity
director,
but
we
are
still
making
some
progress
and
then
one
that's
slower
than
plan
the
arpa
allocation
discussions.
That's
been
about
my
availability,
but
Paul
is
stepping
up
and
I
anticipate
we'll
have
this
on
your
next
agenda
as
planned
crossing
fingers
there
of
the
recommended.
Some
of
it
will
happen
in
the
spring
as
anticipated,
and
then
others
are
slowed
again
because
of
the
equity
directory
departure.
Any
questions
about
specific
items.
A
Okay,
there's,
no
questions.
We
can
move
on,
so
we
have
an
item
o
from
our
agenda
review
earlier.
This
is
former
e
in
the
consent
agenda.
Removal
of
commissioner
from
the
newsp
commission
for
inclusion
and
belonging
Jim
suggested
we
pull
this
out
because
there
wasn't
any
context
about
why
they
were
removal.
J
J
Let
her
know
that
she
could
be
ambassadors
to
the
commission
that
she
put
is
number
one
and
I've
also
made
some
attempts,
but
we've
just
not
heard
back
from
her
at
the
email
she
provided
and
don't
really
have
other
ways
of
contacting
her.
She
didn't
show
up
to
the
meeting
as
well
to
either
that
or
Jenny
put
together.
What
was
that
in
July?
J
A
P
I
will
say
that
the
equity
director,
at
the
time
when
she
Advanced
the
original
slate
did
you
know
with
the
commission
chairs-
did
find
their
application
interesting.
So
you
might
say
you
might
even
be
explicit
if
you
so
choose
that
if
it
turns
out
that
they
changed
emails
or
whatever
that,
if
they
were
interested
again
that
you
would
be
open
to
that
yeah.
C
A
Motion
carries
thank
you,
okay,
so
that
is
the
end
of
our
regular
agenda.
We
have
warned
an
executive
session
for
this
evening.
I
am
looking
for
a
motion
to
find
that,
pursuant
to
Vermont
state
statute,
313a1f
confidential
attorney
client
Communications
made
for
the
purpose
of
providing
professional
legal
services
to
the
body
that
we
should
have
this
discussion
in
executive
session.