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Mariah Riggs interviews Marc Bolh from Supercollider.
Supercollider brings together creative people and innovative ideas to unlock energy. The group meets monthly in Burlington and organizes a yearly event called Synaptice Supercollider to celebrate innovation and the arts in Vermont.
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C
C
So
before
we
kind
of
get
into
all
the
wonderful
work
you're
doing
here
in
Burlington,
yeah
I
want
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
about
The
Man
Behind
super
collider,
dun
dun,
dun
watch
out.
D
C
So
did
you
are
you
originally
from
Berlin?
No.
D
I
am
not
I
grew
up
in
New
Hampshire,
then
I
went
down
to
Texas
to
get
a
degree
in
undergraduate
degree.
I
moved
to
New
York
for
two
years,
moved
to
Paris
for
12
years
got
married,
had
two
kids
moved
to
San
Diego
and
then
moved
to
Vermont,
because
my
wife
got
a
job
up
here
at
UVM
teaching
economics.
C
Oh
that's
great
yeah,
and
once
you
got
here,
you
never
wanted
to
leave
it's
a
real
thing.
It
happens
to
all
of
us.
Let's.
D
You
do,
okay,
so
just
for
anybody
who
doesn't
it's
like
a
10
mile,
circumference
type
thingy
that
accelerates
photons
up
to
close
to
the
speed
of
light,
smashes
them
together
and
releases
energy,
and
so
that's
a
metaphor
that
I
liked
a
name
that
I
liked
and
we
use
that
for
super
collider
which
just
started
off
as
a
meet
up
we'd
get
together,
have
have
a
drink
talk
about
mostly
like
entrepreneurship,
because
a
lot
of
my
friends
are
entrepreneurs,
and-
and
you
know
that
became
a
good
name-
that
we
kind
of
coalesced
around
in
parallel,
shout
out
to
Michael
Jagger
at
solidarity,
because
he
was
working
on
a
concept
called
super
collider
and
we
talked
about
merging
them
and
stuff
like
that.
D
But
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
drink
on
Friday
nights,
so
that
became
the
super.
Collider
have
a
drink
on
Friday
night
thing,
and
but
then
about
a
year.
Let's
see
last
year
we
launched
the
first
year
of
synaptic
super
collider,
which
is
a
conference,
and
that
has
turned
into
like
a
weekend
long
adventure
with
all
kinds
of
you
know
interesting
events,
but
the
core
of
it
is
a
conference,
and
this
year,
a
party
at
City
Hall,
which
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
fun.
So.
C
So
in
the
interest
of
giving
you
all
a
great
summary
on
the
event
I'd,
like
you
all
right
now
to
watch
last
year's
video
of
the
event.
D
D
We
had
amazing
speakers
the
entire
day
and
then
we're
finishing
up
tomorrow
on
Sunday
with
a
hike.
The
speakers
were
absolutely
fantastic,
so
we
started
off
with
Alan
Newman
he's
a
person
who's
a
Serial
entrepreneur
who
started
amazing
companies
like
Seventh
Generation,
Magic,
Hat
breweries.
We
were
lucky
at
the
last
minute
to
have
Kyle
Clark
from
Beta
Technologies
come
down
and
be
a
speaker
every
time
he
speaks
amazing.
But
on
the
flip
side
we
had
artists
like
Myra
Flynn,
come
in
she's
a
singer.
Songwriter
I'd
asked
her.
B
Synaptic
super
glider
was
awesome.
First
of
all,
I
had
no
idea
that
so
much
Innovation
and
amazing
creativity
was
going
on
in
Vermont.
So
it
was
very
eye-opening
for
me
to
hear
from
songwriters
people
running
rocket
companies,
people
running
Aviation
companies,
honestly
as
somebody
who
lives
in
New
York
I'm
contemplating
moving
back
to
Vermont.
That's.
A
A
The
variety
of
what
your
the
tracks
and
a
ton
of
opportunity
to
meet
people
I
feel
like
I've
met
just
about
everybody
who
is
here,
I
thought
it
was
a
phenomenal
event.
The
balance.
B
E
Energy
they
brought.
It
was
an
incredible
experience
because
it
really
showcases
Vermont
today
in
terms
of
Music
art,
AI,
Rockets,
aerospace,
engineering.
It
was
a
lot
of
unexpected
twists
and
turns,
and
really
showcased
some
great
entrepreneurs
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
right
here
in
Vermont.
If.
C
Sales
guy
that
kind
of
comes
to
me,
too,
is
that.
C
10
20
mile
Loop
to
propel
these
very
small
atoms
together
and
it
creates
energy
right.
D
C
D
Exactly
and
we
we
really,
you
know:
I
I,
love,
events
of
all
types,
but
I
invariably
end
up
in
a
lot
of
events
with
other
people
working
in
high
tech,
and
you
know,
and
so
and
I
love
those
events.
But
you
know
it's
a
little
monolithic
like
people
have
same
kind
of
backgrounds,
educational
and
other
things
like
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
start
something
that
would
really
mix
things
up
and
bring
together
like
people
unexpected
people
that
you
wouldn't
expect
to
run
into
and
create
collisions
of
people
that
don't
usually
meet.
D
So
we
have
all
kinds
of
people
at
our
events.
We
love
to
have
musicians
at
our
events.
We
don't
have
enough
anybody
who's.
A
musician
wants
to
come
out
on
Friday
nights.
Please
join
us.
We've
got
Philip
that
I
mentioned
he's
into
theater
we're
getting
more
people
that
are
in
theater
involved,
but
like,
for
instance,
at
our
last
monthly
Meetup,
which
we
had
at
Arts
Riot.
We
had
a
bunch
of
people
from
Congo.
Now,
there's
a
big
Community.
D
It's
about
500
people
that
are
immigrants
from
Congo
in
Burlington,
I
met
them
through
different
people
and
I.
Didn't
know
there
was
such
a
big
Congolese
immigrant
population
here
in
Burlington,
but
they're
all
doing
amazing,
stuff,
they're,
Highly,
Educated,
doing
great
jobs,
very
entrepreneurial
and
all
of
a
sudden
we
had
a
contingency
of
about
10
of
them
come
out
to
our
event,
and
you
know-
and
it's
just
really
interesting
but
I'll
give
another
example.
D
Now
people,
cooks-
and
you
know
that's
people-
I,
don't
usually
run
into
like
at
social
events,
because
I
run
into
people
like
me
and
I'm,
not
a
cook
but
like
we
want
to
bring
them
in.
You
know
know
we
want
to
bring
them
in
and-
and
you
know
so,
across
different
kinds
of
jobs,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
the
more
the
merrier
and.
D
Absolutely-
and
you
know,
I'll
give
an
example
of
one
of
our
best
monthly
events
we
had
in
a
woman
whose
name
is
Lucy
Drummond.
She
has
a
business
or
had
a
business
called
lucify,
lucify,
cakes,
not
Lucifer,
lucify,
cakes
and
she
made
elaborate
cakes
for
weddings
and
special
events,
and
so
we
had
a
Friday
night
at
vset
we
had
30
or
40
people
together.
She
brought
in
these
little
kits
of
cakes
sponge
cake
and
we
learned
how
to
make
like
elaborate
cakes
like
the
techniques
they
use
to
make
cakes.
D
D
Yeah,
so
we
so
we
we
have
the
monthly
Meetup.
We
have
the
conference,
the
annual
conference
and
that's
spread
over
three
days
and
in
the
fall
we'll
be
rolling
out
a
few
things
one
is
Philip.
Casedo
is
going
to
do
no
mentioned
his
name,
not
three
times.
It
must
be
intrigued.
Who
is
this
character?
Philip
quesado?
Well,
Philip
is
going
to
do
a
class
on
video
editing
for
entrepreneurs.
D
That
should
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
I
will
announce
another
class
that
will
be
rolling
out
by
Joey
in
the
Simba
MBA
program
on
what
do
you
call
it?
Improv
improv,
wow,
yeah.
C
C
D
And
in
fact
so,
Joey
I
just
met
him
today
and
he's
part
of
the
sustainable
MBA
program
at
UVM
and
he
has
I
guess
a
pretty
elaborate
theater
background,
but
he
did
improv
and
is
using
it
or
thinking
about
it.
You
know
for
for
business
for
business
folks,
so
you
know
just
like
you
said
it's.
C
It's
a
real
thing:
yeah
and
you
know
sometimes
you
know
you
get
stuck
in
spreadsheets
right,
right
and
you're,
not
really
out
there
with
people.
You
know
and
and
trust
me
actually
as
much
as
you
probably
are
surprised
by
this
I
am
a
natural
introvert,
I.
C
D
And
speaking
of
getting
out
of
the
box,
we,
you
know,
like
you,
know,
one
of
the
reasons
I
we
sort
of
hatched
this
whole
thing
as
part
of
as
we
were
being
locked
down
under
covid
right
and
during
that
process.
I
signed
up
for
South
by
Southwest,
which
subsequently
got
canceled
by
covid,
but
as
I
was
doing
that
they
have
this
little
these
little
services
for
fifty
dollars.
You
can
pay
to
be
pre-registered
for
up
to
600
social
events
at
South
by
Southwest,
so
I
was
like
Wow
600
social
events.
D
What
are
these
they're
always
like?
Free
Taco,
free
beer,
free,
music,
free
whatever,
but
it's
like
a
huge.
It's
fun
like
the
whole
city
lights
up,
and
so
that
was
you
know.
One
of
the
ideas
for
synaptic
super
collider
was
like.
We
want
to
make
this
first
and
foremost
like
really
fun,
like
really
fun
social
events,
so
Friday
night,
we
have
an
event
at
Water,
Wallflower
Collective.
If
you
are
a
conference
goer,
you
can
get
a
free
cocktail.
The
Supra
Collider
specially
made
for
the
event
wait.
D
Oh,
it
hasn't
been
invented.
Yet
oh
wow,
that's
me
and
Max
I
just
like
to
tell
Matt
over
at
Wallflower
Collective
that
I'm
going
to
be
over
there
sometime
this
week
and
we're
going
to
make
it
we're
going
to
make
it
together
because
last
time
I
let
him
make
it
and
design
it
and
it
had
some
Campari
in
it
or
something
I,
don't
like
those
bitter
yeah
things.
So
this
time
I
want
to
be
more
Hands-On.
D
Yes,
right
right,
but
yeah
like
every
piece
we
try
and
throw
in
something
so
Friday
night
nectar's
like
if
you've
got
a
conference
pass
you
you
get
a
free
cover,
but
anybody
can
go.
Anybody
can
go
on
Friday
night.
Anybody
can
go
on.
You
know
to
the
two
events
on
Friday
night
Saturday.
We
have
a
conference,
so
that's
paid.
Then
there's
a
film
showing
at
Main
Street
Landing,
that's
free!
D
Very
topical
it
is,
it
is
about
a
person
who
gets
infected
by
a
virus
through
I
believe
a
relationship
if
I
remember
right,
but
then
it
devolves
into
like
a
thriller
where
they
realize
that
this
virus
is
actually
hatched
on
the
local
population
by
a
pharmaceutical
company.
That's
trying
to
sell
the
antidote
to
the
virus.
Oh
wow!
Oh
it's!
A
thriller.
C
Which
is
going
to
be
awesome,
it's
gonna
be
quite
the
party
at
contos.
If.
D
Anybody
shows
up
it'll
be
awesome.
No,
we
have.
We
have
incredible
lineup,
so
we
have
Mal
myes,
which
is
playing,
which
is
like
an
eight
piece
amazing
band
with
influences
from
all
over
South
America.
We
have
bread
and
puppet
that's
going
to
do
a
performance
in
the
middle
of
all
this,
and
then
we
have
DJ
Jared,
who
is
going
to
finish
up
the
night
with
a
lot
of
fun
music.
D
D
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
people
there,
because
we've
got
the
secret
sauce.
We've
got
Philip
quesader,
that's
the
fourth
time
I've
mentioned,
but
we're
going
to
be
out
on
Church
Street
regularly
with
all
kinds
of
discount
codes
and
and
I
said
we
have
25
free
tickets
to
get
away
to
anybody,
give
away
to
anybody
who's
working
in
the
hospitality
industry.
We
have
another
sponsor
magic
man
who's,
considering
sponsoring
a
bunch
of
musicians
to
go.
So
it's
going
to
be
packed.
C
No
so
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
very
exciting
event,
and
this
is
something
pretty
unique,
I
think
in
special
in
the
mix
of
what
we
do
here
in
Burlington
yearly
and
so
I
I
kind
of
also
want
to
get
a
sense
from
you.
You
know
what
are
you
trying
to
create
with
this
event,
wow.
D
So
that's
a
moving
Target.
So
what
I
started
wanting
to
create
was
like
a
place
where
I
could
go.
Have
beer
with
my
friends
and
I
wouldn't
get
kicked
out
that
worked
out
pretty
good,
then
it
turned
into
like
a
yearly
conference,
but
it
started
off
last
year,
pretty
small.
Now
we're
rolling
out
these
educational
opportunities,
but
at
the
core
of
super
Collider
we
it
starts
off
with
creative
people
getting
together
unexpected
collisions
and
unlocking
energy.
D
Now
that's
really
vague
and
for
the
first
six
months,
like
the
people,
I
started
with
kept
telling
me
like
I,
want
to
invite
people,
but
I,
don't
know
what
to
tell
them
and
I
tell
them
then
they'd
be
like
that's
not
a
thing
like
I,
can't,
that's
not
that
that
doesn't
make
sense
to
anybody
except
you
and
I
was
like
well
that's
what
it
is.
It's
just
that's
it.
We
like
get
people
together,
creative
people
and
create
these
unexpected
collisions
and
it
unlocks
energy.
D
And
then
you
know,
I
met
a
guy
here
locally
recently
and
he
was
really
adamant
that
he
liked
the
fact
that
it
was
unexpected,
like
you,
don't
have
an
expectation
going
into
it,
and
so
you
know,
then
we
started
rolling
that
out
in
our
in
our.
C
C
C
D
D
I'll
give
another
shout
out
to
Thor
retzlaff,
who
has
an
incredible
startup
here
locally
and
who
was
adamant
about
he
really
liked
the
fact
that
there
was
an
expectation
like
he
didn't
know
what
it
was
going
to
be
about,
and
at
first
I
was
like
really
they
really
liked
that,
and
then
the
more
I
thought
about
I
was
like
yeah.
If
you
don't
have
expectations,
you're
not
easily
disappointed
and
second
of
all,
you've
got
to
go
into
it
and
make
something
of
it.
You
know
you're
an
actor
in
what
happens
it.
D
C
Yeah
yeah
Burlington
Burlington
needs
to
bring
the
heat
very,
very,
very
important,
so
so,
to
put
it
in
perspective,
it
sounds
like
super
collider
is,
is
a
three-day
event?
Yep,
okay,
a
and
it
has.
It
has
a
festival
component.
That
ties
ties
the
three
different
components
together
that
that
overarches
all
of
it
right
and
we
have
this
Festival-
there's
a
conference
and
then
there's
a
party
in
a
several
series
of
social
engagement
events
right.
D
And
it
all
finishes
up
with
a
hike
on
Sunday,
really,
yes,
a
hike
Sunday
morning.
10
a.m,
probably
Mount
Philo,
because
we're
worried
somebody's
going
to
have
a
heart
attack
and
and
and
we
can't
cover
it
with
the
insurance,
but
so
normally
in
Mount
Philo.
If
we
have
enough
people,
we
might
have
a
splinter
group
that
does
Camel
Hump
well.
D
Right
but
that's
you
know:
I
talked
about
South
by
Southwest
we're
kind
of
taking
a
page
out
of
what
they're
doing,
but
this
is
not
no
me
too
South
by
Southwest.
This
is
Burlington
Vermont,
we're
making
this.
You
know
new
and
fresh
unique.
What
other
conference
do
you
go
to
in
the
world
where
you
go
on
a
hike
the
last
day?
I,
don't
think
there
is
one
well.
D
D
C
I
also
want
to
talk
to
you.
This
came
up
briefly
before
we
started
our
interview.
You
were
telling
me
that
in
your
other
life,
you
do
some
other
work
right
and
one
of
the
things
I
found
was
really
interesting.
Is
you
work
with
several
individuals
in
Ukraine
right.
D
Yeah
so
my
main
bread
and
butter
comes
from
making
apps
to
help
people
learn
languages
like
French
and
Spanish
and
Italian.
The
the
name
of
that
company
is
Vida,
lingua
Vida
lingua
I've
been
doing
it
for
a
long
time.
We
have
over
15
million
people
that
have
downloaded
our
apps,
so
we
have
like
600
000
that
active
users
every
month,
and
we
do
that
right
here,
designed
by
me
here
in
Burlington
and
I
work
with
20
people
across
the
world.
A
lot
of
them
are
linguists.
D
D
It's
so
it's
actually
extremely
surprising
and
unexpected.
You
know
that's
a
whole
different
subject,
but
yeah
one
thing
about
ukrainians,
like
I
all
offer
them.
I
literally
really
said-
and
this
is
a
real
honest
to
truth,
offer
I
said:
look
why
don't
you
take
a
vacation
and
just
come
over
here
to
Burlington
or
Austin
and
I'll
find
you
a
place.
You
could
take
a
vacation
right
if
there's
going
to
be
War
over
there.
None
of
them
wanted
to
leave,
and
then
I
said.
Well.
D
If
things
get
rough,
you
know
then
they
hit,
like
men,
couldn't
cross
the
border,
but
it's
a
huge
country.
So
it
was
like
just
give
me
a
pin
on
the
map
and
you
know,
go
through
some
forests
and
I'll
be
on
the
other
side
and
we'll
just
drive
back
to
you
know
to
Paris
or
Austin
or
whatever,
and
none
of
them
want
to
leave
they're
like
they're.
They
want
to
fight
you.
D
C
There
you
go,
you
know
so,
but
I
found
that
very
interesting
and
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
they're
that
they're
able
to
work
and
that
you're
able
to
engage
them
and
give
them
employment
and
they
want
to
stay
I
mean
it's
a
real
thing.
Oh.
D
Yeah
definitely-
and
so
you
know,
I
mean
the
people
I'm
working
with
they've
moved
out
into
the
countryside.
It's
a
huge
country,
it's
huge,
it's
44
million
people.
So
there's
a
lot
of
Countryside
and
you
just
can't
bomb
everything.
So
you
know
so
they
just
work
day
in
and
day
out,
and
you
know
everything's
fine.
They
still
have
internet
yeah,
yeah.
C
D
C
D
C
Getting
back
to
super
super
collider
and
I
want
to
know,
because
this
is
a
great
conference
is
coming
up
in
a
week,
but
but
I
assume
that
there
are
other
projects
that
you're
doing
with
this.
D
Yeah
so
yeah
this
so
just
recently,
I
don't
know
it's
just
like
all
kinds
of
things
started
coming
to
our
attention
and
so
I
I
spent
about
I
actually
live
half
the
year
in
Austin,
Texas
now
and
and
so
I
started
a
chapter
of
it
down
there.
It's
pretty
easy
to
start
a
chapter
of
super
collider
because
all
you
have
to
do
is
give
everybody
a
rendezvous
in
a
bar
at
five
o'clock
on
a
Friday
night
and
bingo.
D
You've
got
a
chapter
of
super
clutter,
but
so
we've
got
a
chapter
of
it
down
there,
I'm
actually
going
to
Paris
on
the
3rd
of
October
and
I'm,
going
to
start
a
chapter
in
Paris
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people,
because
I
lived
there
for
12
years,
so
I'm
going
to
invite
a
bunch
of
people
out
to
a
bar
on
a
Friday
night.
We
got
a
chapter
in
Paris,
but
we
want
to
start
one
in
Montreal,
Boston
and
New
York
and
yeah,
so
there'll
be
monthly.
D
But
we'd
like
to
do
Regional
conferences,
we'd
like
to
open
up
this
education
activity,
but
you
know
fun,
fun,
education,
short
courses,
that
you
know
appeal
to
entrepreneurs
and
things
like
that.
But
yeah
we
want.
You
know
we
want
super
collider
to
be
first
and
foremost
a
place.
You
come
have
fun
with
interesting
people.
If
we
can
achieve
that
par
for
the
course
we're.
C
D
If
we
can
help
those
same
people
find
like
fulfillment
in
their
professional
lives
or
or
you
know,
professional
being
very
wide
and
Broad
like
you
might
want
to
come
to
start
a
company
and
meet
a
partner
to
start
a
company,
you
might
want
to
start
a
band.
We
hope
you
come
think
of
super
collider
to
meet
other
people
who
start
a
band.
That's
something
that'll
be
sort
of
core,
but
then
we'll
also
offer
ways
to
sharpen
your
skills
like
Point
skills
that
you
would
use
to
start
a
company.
C
And
you
can
also
I
mean
it
sounds
like
too.
It
also
has
that
built-in
contextuality,
where
you
can
have
mentorships
you
know
you
can
learn
from
others
engage.
Maybe
some
you
meet.
Somebody
who's
had
the
same
experience
that
you're
going
through
as
you
try
to
start
up
a
company
and
they
can
like
help
you
right
because
there's
hurdles
that
you
don't
know
how
to
cross
yeah
and
those
kinds
of
community
engagement,
things
kind
of
just
lifts
up
the
whole.
It.
D
Does
and
we
want
like,
like
people
who
are
unemployed
or
underemployed,
we
want
them
to
think
of
oh
I'm,
going
to
plug
myself
into
Super
collider,
because
that's
where
I'm
going
to
regenerate
find
Partners
find
jobs.
So
anybody,
who's,
underemployed
or
unemployed
can
get
a
discount
code
to
go
to
super
clutter
for
almost
free,
just
contact
me
by
email,
but
that's
a
real
thing.
I
actually
was
unemployed.
D
For
our
strange
reason,
I
worked
at
Microsoft
and
Oracle
works
at
Oracle
for
four
years
in
the
90s
Microsoft
for
three
years
in
the
90s
made
so
much
money
off
of
stock
options.
That
I
found
myself
like
too
much
money
took
a
year
off
and
then,
after
about
six
months,
I
was
bored
out
of
my
tree.
I
turned
into
Mr
Mom
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
taking
care
of
my
kids,
which
was
okay.
D
My
wife
was
getting
a
PhD
at
the
time,
but
like
I
felt,
like
I
dropped
off
the
the
face
of
the
world,
because
I
didn't
have
like
a
job.
That's
a
job
has
kind
of
become
the
Hub
of
modern
day
life.
It's
like
the
people
you
interact
with,
but
if
you
ever
leave
that
job
for
reasons
hopefully
good
reasons
like
me
or
bad
reasons
like
you
get
fired,
you
literally
lose
like
your
your
Hub,
so
so
yeah.
We
want.
C
C
C
D
C
C
Was
yeah
I
know,
I've
got
that
all
right,
so
I
was
also
want
to
quickly.
Let
everybody
know
Mark
has
been
super
wonderful
and
is
going
to
be
doing
a
five
tickets
for
the
conference
for
anybody
who's
watching
this.
If
you
go
to
some
symptomatic
super
collider,
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
see
www.com.
C
You,
if
you
go
there
and
you
enter
the
code
when
you
check
out
mslnow.
D
D
We
have
a
myriad
of
discount
codes
for
all
types
of
people.
Like
I,
said
students,
Educators,
unemployed,
underemployed.
We
even
do
trade
out.
You
got
a
great
skill.
You
want
to
help
us
promote
the
thing
we
might
even
do
trade
out
with
you.
We
want
everybody
that
wants
to
go
to
be
able
to
go
people
who
can
afford
to
help
us
offset
the
cost
of
catering,
the
spaces,
the
band
The
DJ,
all
those
things
cost.
You
know
a
lot
of
money,
so
people
that
can
afford
it
and
can
help
us
do
that.
D
D
C
You
and
I
hope
it's
a
big
success.
I
want
everyone
to
keep
an
eye
out
for
it.
I
want
people
to
go
to
the
party
at
contos.
Next
Saturday,
it's
going
to
be
fun.
It's
going
to
be
a
great
weekend
so
get
out
there
make
sure
you
go
to
super
collider.
It's
going
to
be
an
amazing
conference
in
Burlington.
Go
to
the
website
check
it
out.
Thank
you
guys.
All
so
much
and
I
will
see
you
next
month.
Thank
you,
Mark!
Well,.