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Dennis McMahon interviews Ryan Bliss with the Vermont Aviators Association.
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A
A
Well,
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself,
you
know
who
you
are
where
you
live
and
how
you
became
involved
in
the
world
of
aviation.
B
B
We've
lived
in
new
hampshire
massachusetts,
south
carolina
and
just
recently
moved
to
vermont
because
we
love
it
here.
So
much
and
we've
been
here
for
a
little
over
a
year
and
we
absolutely
love
it.
The
people
here
are
great.
The
activities
are
great.
The
aviation
community
is
amazing,
so
we've
been
here
a
little
over
a
year,
really
loving
the
state
everything
it
has
to
offer.
As
far
as
how
we
got
into
aviation,
I
started.
B
B
So
what
we're
doing
as
an
organization
now
is
we
formed
a
501c3
non-profit
educational
organization
called
the
vermont
aviators
association
and
our
goal
is
to
bring
aviation
education,
community
and
and
jobs
and
careers,
and
everything
like
that
together,
and
so
we
want
to
basically
share
the
issue
with
the
community
and
it's
a
much
bigger
picture
than
that
sounds.
So
we
are
doing
events
to
invite
the
community
down
to
the
local
airports.
To
get
some
great
food
at
the
food
trucks.
Go
for.
B
Helicopter
rides,
meet
flight
instructors,
sit
in
planes
all
of
those
kind
of
things
which
is
great,
but
we're
doing
even
more
to
promote
aviation
education,
stem
careers,
you
know
and
and
expansion
of
the
aviation
sector
to
the
community,
so
that
people
can
feel
comfortable
and
in
coming
down
to
the
airport-
and
you
know
talking
to
people
and
really
just
hanging
out
enjoying
everything
that
the
airport
has
to
offer.
So
we're
also
looking
to
work
with
vtrans
vermont
agency
of
transportation
to
improve
the
maintenance
and
care
of
the
airports.
B
We
have
a
number
of
airports
that
have
really
suffered
due
to
lack
of
maintenance
over
the
years.
So
we
want
to
improve
that
because
it
really
affects
the
economy
in
vermont,
for
example,
you
know
if
at
middlebury
airport
in
middlebury
vermont,
currently
the
fuel
station
is
is
down
so
they've
had
an
experience
where
the
the
fuel
farm
was
not
maintained
properly.
Now,
there's
sediments
and
other
particulates
in
the
fuel
which
make
it
unusable
and
so
nobody's
going
to
that
airport
to
buy
fuel
anymore.
B
B
But
what
people
probably
see
you
know
about
us?
The
most
is
the
events
that
we
do
where
we
have.
You
know
the
food
trucks,
the
airplanes,
the
helicopters
just
really
fun
days
for
the
family
to
take
their
kids
down
to
the
airport
for
three
or
four
hours
and
really
enjoy
the
airport.
But
from
a
big
picture
you
know
we
are
looking
into
and
working
on
a
lot
of
different
areas
of
the
vermont
aviation
sector.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
resources
that
you
can
tap
into.
We
can
discuss
that
later
on
about
the
aviation
scene,
but
if
you
could
just
give
our
viewers
an
idea
of
what
the
aviation
picture
is
in
new
york,
how
many
I
mean
in
vermont
what
kind
of
airports
we
have
facilities,
and
I
know
we
have
burlington
international
but
just
give
us
an
overall
view
of
what
kind
of
resources
there
are.
B
Well
so
vermont
is,
is
really
like.
An
amazing
state
for
aviation.
The
history
of
vermont
aviation
is
is
really
deep.
Charles
lindbergh
has
been
to
the
various
airports
in
vermont.
Caledonia
has
had
some
amazing
milestones
in
aviation,
going
back,
100
years
caledonia
airport,
and
so
the
resources
here
are
just
unbelievable.
The
people,
the
airports,
the
types
of
services
that
a
lot
of
pilots
volunteer
for
that
people-
probably
don't
even
know
about
you
know
just
as
an
example.
B
Dennis
there
are
organizations
in
the
general
aviation
community
where
pilots
like
myself
and
my
my
friends,
they
actually
will
volunteer
their
time
in
their
aircraft
and
the
cost
of
everything
for
those
flights
to
fly.
Folks
that
maybe
live
in
rural
areas
and
can't
get
to
a
hospital
in
a
city
like
say,
boston
if
they
need
to
go
to
dana
farber
or
down
to
yale
for
some
kind
of
treatment,
but
they
can't
get
there.
They
don't
have
the
car
or
the
means
to
get
there.
B
There's
organizations
that
will
fly
up
to
their
little
tiny
airport
in
their
rural
towns
pick
them
up,
fly
them
to
yale
fly
them
to
boston
so
that
they
can
have
their
medical
appointments,
and
this
is
all
volunteer
services,
and
this
happens
a
lot
in
the
state
of
vermont.
So
these
airports
are
really
important.
We
also
have
organizations
that
again
are
just
volunteers
where
they
rescue
dogs
and
cats.
B
So
there's
organizations
where
pilots
will
volunteer
to
fly
down
to
pick
up
the
animals
fly
them
to
their
new
home
homeowners
to
their
owner's
location,
to
drop
them
off,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
people
may
just
not
be
aware
of
that
happen
behind
the
scenes
and
it's
all
from
a
volunteer
team
of
aviators
that
volunteer
their
time
their
aircraft
and
their
their
money
to
pay
for
these
things.
So
it's
not
something
you
see
in
the
news,
but
it
happens
all
the
time.
B
General
aviation
is
also
huge
with
volunteering
to
respond
to
emergencies.
So
anytime,
there's
a
hurricane
or
tornadoes
or
any
kind
of
devastating
events
in
the
u.s.
The
general
aviation
community
rallies
to
get
items
needed
for
those
areas
to
recuperate
and
for
for
the
folks
that
need
help
and
constantly
there's
a
constant
stream
of
general
aviation
pilots
flying
their
planes
loaded
with
supplies
to
all
these
little
tiny
airports
to
help
people
in
those
kind
of
circumstances.
B
A
B
A
Important
person
or
someone
associated
with
the
military
or
the
government
tell
us
if
this
field
is
open
to
more
people
than
those
who
are
professionals
or
and
and
how
does
one
start
someone's
going
to
be
watching
this
video
on
television
and
they're
going
to
be
wanting
them?
That
might
interest
me.
Maybe
you
could
take
us
through
some
of
those
aspects
of
your
association.
B
Yeah
you
bring
up
a
really
great
point
dennis,
I
would
say
the
general
community,
that's
not
involved
in
federal
aviation
has
a
conception
that
you
know
you
have
to
be
a
billionaire
or
a
millionaire
in
order
to
fly
airplanes
and
the
reality
is
that's
just
not
true.
You
can
buy
an
airplane,
a
functional,
safe
airplane
from
anywhere
in
the
range
of
ten
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
B
Up
to
you
know
just
imagine
millions
of
dollars
in
everything
in
between,
but
if
you're
driving
a
toyota
camry
ford
f-150,
you
know
a
minivan,
that's
been
built
in
the
last
five
or
ten
years
you
can
buy
an
airplane
for
the
same
price.
You
know
we
have
a
number
of
aircraft
at
our
airport
that
were
purchased
for
25
to
35
000,
and
so
you
know
that
that
is
disposable
income.
B
Obviously,
so
you
do
need
to
have
some
disposable
income,
but
you
don't
have
to
be
a
millionaire
or
a
billionaire
another
affordable
way
to
learn
how
to
fly
is
by
joining
a
flying
club.
People
probably
aren't
aware
of
this.
But
if
you
join
a
flying
club,
the
beautiful
you
know
thing
about
that
from
a
financial
perspective,
is
you
spread
the
operating
costs
in
insurance
and
everything
all
of
those
costs
for
the
aircraft
amongst
15
people?
So
it's
a
very
affordable
way
to
fly.
B
A
B
Of
what
you're
paying
for
is
fuel,
so
you
have
to
pay
for
the
fuel
that
you
use
in
the
aircraft
and
then
you
generally
will
pay
a
monthly
due
that
covers
the
operations
and
maintenance
for
the
aircraft,
but
it's
very
affordable.
You
do
have
to
share
the
plane
with
14
other
people.
So
you
know
you
have
to
schedule
it.
You
know
efficiently,
but
it's
a
way
to
fly
in
an
affordable
fashion,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
think
is
is
maybe
not
you
know,
put
out
to
the
public
enough.
B
But
you
know
my
goal
and
our
goal
as
an
organization
and
with
a
lot
of
the
pilots
across
the
state
is
to
start
even
more
flying
clubs.
We
do
have
a
number
of
flying
clubs
in
vermont
they'll
be
posted
on
our
website
once
we
launch
that
later
in
july,
but
so
anybody
can
find
that
information
if
they
visit
aviate
vermontaviators.org
once
we
launch
the
website
two
or
three
more
weeks,
but
but
just
realize
that's
available.
So
if
you
go
down
to
your
local
airport,
you
can
ask
people,
hey.
B
Is
there
a
flying
club?
Do
you
have
a
flight
school?
Are
there
flight
instructors
here
what's
a
cheap
way
to
fly
or
affordable
way
to
fly
and
just
get
in
that
conversation
or
contact
us
we're
happy
to
walk
people
through
it
as
well
and
to
answer
your
second
question:
how
do
people
get
into
aviation
to
become
private
pilots
or
commercial
pilots?
It's
pretty
simple,
but
again
it's
not
one
of
those
things.
That
is
really.
I
can
tell
you
when
I
first
started
flying.
B
I
had
no
clue
how
to
schedule
a
lesson
I
really
had
no
idea.
So
if
it's
something
you
want
to
do
you
just
again
once
our
website
is
published
in
the
next
two
or
three
weeks,
all
of
the
details
of
every
flight
school
in
vermont
will
be
on
our
website.
But
essentially
what
you
want
to
do
is
just
do
a
google
search.
You
know
flight
schools,
flight
training
in
vermont
or
or
in
burlington
or
in
rutland
or
swanton
vermont.
B
The
flight
instructor
will
walk
them
through.
You
know
the
procedure
to
become
a
private
pilot,
all
the
steps
involved
and
then
they'll
take
them
up
for
usually
a
30
to
60
minute
flight
with
the
with
the
new
student
just
to
show
them
what
it's
like
to
fly.
The
plane
they'll.
Take
them
up,
let
them
do
some
maneuvers
probably
do
an
approach
to
lands,
but
not
quite
land.
B
That
takes
a
little
more
practice,
but
that's
generally
how
you
wanted
to
do
it
and
now
the
other
thing
too,
that's
really
important
is
there
are
lots
of
scholarships
available
to
become
private
pilots,
commercial,
pilots
to
add
ratings,
we're
going
to
have
a
scholarship
section
on
our
website
that
people
will
be
able
to
go
to
and
they
can
see
all
the
available
scholarships.
B
The
scholarships
are
not
generally
utilized
as
much
as
they
should
be.
So
it's
something
that
we
would
encourage
everybody
to
look
into
if
you
need
some
assistance
with
flight
training,
if
that's
something
you
want
to
do,
another
thing,
too,
is:
if
folks
are
thinking
about
becoming
professional
pilots,
commercial,
pilots,
there's
such
a
massive
shortage
right
now
for
commercial
pilots
in
mechanics
and
controllers
in
the
us
that
a
lot
of
the
airline
companies
will
take
people
in
right
off
the
street.
B
You
know
to
a
certain
degree
and
they
will
actually
put
them
through
all
the
training
that
they
need
to
become
a
career,
professional
pilot,
and
then
you
know
at
the
end
of
that
they'll
have
a
job.
So
it's
you
know
it's
one
of
those
careers
that
is
very
lucrative
and
the
demand
is
massive
right
now
and
anybody
can
do
this
job.
I
mean
the
training
is
amazing
to
become
a
pilot,
the
training
by
the
airlines.
B
I'll,
give
you
an
example
when
I
was
doing
my
private
pilot
training
with
my
flight
instructor
ed,
he
had
a
student
who
young
young
student.
I
think
he
was
about
23
or
24
and
he
was
about
10
hours
into
his
private
pilot
flight
training,
so
only
10
hours
into
it
and
he
applied
for
a
job
at
jetblue.
They
interviewed
him.
B
They
loved
his
interview,
skills
and
his
intelligence,
and
you
know
everything
they
hired
him
to
come
on,
not
to
start
flying
for
jetblue
granted
right
away
but
to
come
on
and
go
through
their
basically
their
college
like
program
to
become
trained
as
a
professional
pilot.
So
that
is
something
that
people
can
do
if
they're
interested
in
that
and
again
we're
happy
to
help
to
point
people
in
the
right
direction.
For
those
kind
of
contacts
and
connections.
A
That's
great
because
I
was
going
to
ask
a
lot
of
things
you
already
covered,
which
is
fantastic.
You
know
about
the
opportunities
about
the
state
of
the
industry,
the
benefits
of
the
state,
and
we
have
a
great
deal
of
public
officials
who
watch
this
show
and
participate
with
town
needy
tv
and
and
that's
good
for
them
to
know,
as
well
as
for
the
public
to
know
and
what
I'd
like.
A
Maybe
if
you
could
just
describe
your
plane
and
your
experience
with
it
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
have
done
in
your
flying
career,
that
might
keep
some
more
interesting.
Getting
involved.
B
Sure
so
great
questions.
So
as
far
as
my
experience
like
I
said,
I
took
my
first
flight
lesson
in
january
of
2018
and
I
I
have
type
1
diabetes.
I've
had
that,
since
I
was
9
years
old,
my
little
brother
has
it
as
well,
so
getting
a
first
class
medical
was
not
really
an
option
for
me
to
become
a
commercial
pilot,
and
now
it's
it's
it's
possible
that
it's
extraordinarily
expensive
and
difficult
to
achieve.
But
so
I
got
my
private
pilot
certificate,
but
I
fell
in
love
with
aviation.
B
So
much
that
I
wanted
to
change
careers.
I
was
in
the
medical
industry
for
20
years
and
I
wanted
to
get
into
aviation
because
I
just
loved
it
and
so
in
july
of
2019.
I
got
my
remote
pilot
certificate
and
that's
a
that's
basically
a
it's
called
a
part,
107
certificate
and
that's
a
commercial
drone
operator
certificate.
And
so
I
started
a
drone
inspection
company
called
infrared
aerial
and
I
specialized
my
company
specialized
in
doing
utility
scale,
solar
plant
inspections,
renewable
energy
inspections.
B
So
I
purchased
the
drones
in
infrared
cameras
necessary
to
do
that,
and
I
started
flying
large
solar
plant
inspections,
and
that
was
my
job.
I
did
that
you
know
all
year
long
made
a
decent
living
at
it
enough
to
be
comfortable
and
happy,
and
I
got
to
work
outdoors
every
day
and
not
in
an
office,
and
it
was.
B
It
was
just
a
great
job,
I
loved
it
and
so
the
over
the
last
year,
I've
added
an
instrument
rating
to
my
private
pouch
certificate,
so
that
I
can
fly
in
the
clouds
or
you
know,
fly
just
according
to
the
flight
instruments
and
not
being
able
to
see
outside.
B
So
that
was
a
big
accomplishment
that
I
didn't
accomplish
in
january
and
as
far
as
my
plane,
you
know
my
wife
and
I
had
been
renting
planes
and
we
also
joined
a
club,
a
flying
club
when
we
were
living
in
south
carolina,
but
we
bought
a.
We
purchased
a
plane
about
a
year
ago,
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
and
it's
it's
a
vans
aircraft
which
is
an
experimental
amateur
built
aircraft.
B
It's
called
the
rv10,
so
romeo
victor
one
zero
and
we've
been
loving
that
plane.
It's
it's
a
four
seat
plane.
It
has
pretty
good
fuel
efficiency,
it's
a
fairly
fast
plane
and
it
can
carry
a
thousand
and
five
pounds
of
people
baggage
and
fuel.
So
we
have
a
decent
load
that
we
can
carry
with
the
plane
to
get
places.
We've
flown
it
a
lot
around
new
england.
So
we
love
taking
it
for
day
trips
to
anywhere
in
new
england.
You
know
maine
the
southern
coast,
lake
ithaca
different
different
places.
B
We
we
have
two
bicycles
that
we
throw
in
the
back
of
the
plane
and
whenever
we
get
somewhere,
we
don't
need
to
rent
a
car
or
anything.
So
we
just
take
the
bicycles
out
and
ride
around.
You
know
the
area
which
is
really
fun,
we've
flown
into
florida
and
we're
planning
to
take
it
out
to
the
west
coast.
You
know
later
this
year,
and
so
I
mentioned
too
that
our
our
aircraft
is
an
experimental
amateur,
build.
B
So
there's
two
types:
there's
there's
lots
of
different
types
of
planes,
but
there's
two
main
categories
of
plane.
It's
certified
and
certified
just
means
that
the
faa
has
the
company
manufacturing.
The
plane
has
put
it
through
all
of
the
faa
requirements
to
prove
that
it's
safe
and
you
know
for
for
people
to
fly,
and
then
they
start
manufacturing
it
think
of
it
like
ford
or
chevy.
B
You
know
they
they
get
all
the
certifications
done
and
then
there's
a
production
line
that
pumps
out
the
planes
and
sells
them
experimental
amateur
build
planes
are
a
different
category
of
plane
where
in
an
in
an
individual
who
might
be
inclined
to
building.
You
know
cars
or
you
know
anything,
really,
a
lot
of
aerospace
engineers
getting
into
this,
where
you
can
buy
a
kit
plane
and
build
it
yourself.
So
it's
not
as
intimidating.
It
is,
it
is
a
big
job,
but
it's
not
as
intimidating
as
it
sounds.
B
So
most
of
the
modern
kits
today
are
more
assembly
projects
than
actually
you
know
creating
your
own
scrap.
You
know
your
own
parts
out
of
scrap
metal
and
building
them,
and
all
of
that,
so
the
new,
the
new
kit
planes
typically
will
have
pre-punched
holes
and
a
lot
of
the
the
work's
been
done
and
it's
more
of
an
assembly
project.
B
B
What
you
want
to
use,
and
typically
the
cost
for
all
of
the
avionics
and
equipment
that
you
put
into
an
experimental
amateur
build
plane
are
a
fraction
of
the
cost
of
the
certified
equipment,
even
though
they're
made
by
the
state
manufacturer
and
they're
more
or
less
the
same
exact
product,
because
it's
eab
experimental
amateur
built,
the
cost
is
significantly
lower.
So
for
anybody
that
likes
to
build
and
has
a
garage
and
would
be
interested
in
putting
a
couple
years
into
it,
it's
probably
the
most
rewarding
project
you'll
ever
have
in
the
communities.
B
The
builder
communities
in
aviation
are
massive,
so
you
have
these
massive
networks
of
other
folks
that
have
either
already
built
planes
or
are
currently
building
planes
that
will
act
as
mentors
and
coaches
for
the
people
doing
it.
For
the
first
time,
there's
also
a
number
of
organizations
like
aopa,
eaa
and
others
that
will
actually
they
they
conduct
courses
all
the
time
throughout
the
year
where
you
can
actually
go
to
the
course
and
learn
how
to
build
pla,
build
your
own
plane
from
experts.
B
A
That's
great,
why
don't
you
tell
us
about
we're
recording
this
on
june
23rd,
but
you've
had
some
events
in
in
the
last
month
or
so.
Why
don't
you
tell
us,
give
us
a
picture
of
how
those
events
what
what
they
were,
what
took
place
there.
B
Sure
so
part
of
our
statement,
bringing
together
aviation,
education
and
community,
is
the
community
end.
So
our
events
are
more
about
bringing
the
local
community
into
the
to
the
airport
and
to
experience
all
the
amazing
fun
and
what
is
often
perceived
and
correctly
so
off
limits
to
the
general
public.
You
know
you
can't
really
drive
down
to
your
local
airport
and
just
go
into
the
you
know,
go
on
to
the
other
side
of
the
fence,
so
we
want
everybody
to
come
down
to
the
airport.
Come
on
to
the
other
side
of
the
fence.
B
Let's
look
at
all
the
planes
go
sit
in
some
planes.
You
know.
Take
a
helicopter
ride
eat
some
good
food
play
play
some.
You
know,
games
and
activities
that
we
have
out
for
the
kids.
So
really
it's
it's
there's,
no
real
specific
purpose.
What
we
do,
what
we
just
want
to
do
is
share
this
with
everybody.
We
want
everyone
to
come
down
and
just
enjoy
the
airport
and
one
of
the
really
nice
side
effects
of
this
has
been.
B
You
know
generating
a
lot
of
interest
by
kids
and
adults
to
become
pilots,
so
we've
partnered
with
some
of
the
major
flight
schools
like
vermont
flight
academy
and,
for
example,
at
our
last
event
in
rutland
vermont
flight
academy,
came
to
the
event
they
had
a
table
set
up
to
speak
to
anybody
interested
in
taking
lawsons.
They
also
brought
their
satabria,
which
is
an
aerobatic
plane,
tailwheel
plane,
it's
a
beautiful
plane
and
one
of
their
flight
instructors.
B
Owen
white,
who
is
actually
my
instrument,
flight
instructor,
great
guy,
super
smart,
very
patient,
great
great
instructor
and
pilot,
and
they
were
at
the
event
and
letting
kids
sit
in
the
cytabra
and
talking
to
anybody
interested
in
taking
flying
lessons.
So
it
was
just
a
really
nice
resource
for
people
to
have
at
the
airport
during
our
events
where,
if
they
came
down,
they
just
you
know-
maybe
they're
just
curious
like
how
do
I
become
a
pilot?
One
could
tell
them
every
detail
about
that
as
well.
B
As
you
know,
if
they
wanted
to
schedule
a
lesson,
they
could
talk
to
owen
right
there
and
schedule
a
lesson
at
vermont
flight
academy
in
burlington,
as
well
as
letting
their
kids
sit
in
a
really
cool
citabi
aircraft.
So
you
know
that
that's
kind
of
our
goal
is
we
want
to
get
people
down
there
and
and
to
be
perfectly
honest,
you
know
my
personal
goal
is:
I
want
to
be
able,
for.
B
I
want
our
organization
to
be
able
to
contribute
to
stem
aviation
education
in
vermont
and
career
growth
in
vermont,
and
so
this
the
aviation
sector
is,
is
going
to
be
flush
with
jobs
that
are
well
paying
and
we
want
to
give
the
folks,
the
kids
really
that
are
interested
in
that
the
opportunity
to
have
a
pathway
to
those
careers
and
we
want
to
contribute
to
that
to
help
them.
So
that's
really
what
our
goals
are
for
these
events
and
how
we've
been
conducting
them
and
we
we
hope
to
grow
these
events.
B
You
know
to
a
larger
scale
than
we've
already
done.
You
know
we.
We
estimate
we
had
about
a
thousand
to
twelve
hundred
people
in
rutland.
For
our
events
on
june
12th
in
franklin
county
the
week
before,
I
think
we
had
about
700
or
800,
so
there's
clearly
an
appetite
for
this,
and
you
know
we
want
to
give
the
local
vermont
residents
everything
that
they
need
to
satisfy
that
appetite.
A
Those
are
very
good
numbers
and
about
the
franklin
county
airport
event.
Did
you
have
an
exhibition
about
the
history
of
aviation
in
vermont
or
you're
working
on
something
about
that.
B
So
we
didn't
necessarily
have
an
exhibit,
but
we
did
bring
some
antique
aircraft
and
we
had
those
on
static
displays.
So
everybody
could
go
up
and
you
know
sit
in
the
plane
and
you
know
play
around
with
the
flight
controls.
Take
some
pictures
and
everybody
was
allowed
to
do
that,
and
welcome
didn't
encourage
to
do
that.
So
there
there
were
folks,
you
know
the
event
was
four
hours
and
there
were
folks
getting
in
and
out
of
those
planes
with
their
kids
all
day
long.
So
it
really
paid
off.
B
We
had
an
old
anson
off
from
beta
that
they
they
they
sponsored
the
event
and
let
us
bring
that
aircraft
up
from
the
mid-1940s,
and
so
that's
you
know,
considered
an
antique
and
it's
a
really
amazing
airplane.
It's
just
such
a
cool
aircraft.
A
That's
great,
I
remember
as
a
child,
going
to
floyd
bennett
field
and
seeing
the
planes
there
and
going
actually
in
the
cockpit,
but
that.
A
Absolutely
one
thing
I
just
want
to
ask
you
about:
I
know:
there's
some
geography
here,
north
south
east
west,
some
parts
of
the
state
are
accessible
or
not
accessible
or
more
scenic
than
others.
Just
tell
us
about
how
that
plays
into
flying.
B
Yeah,
so
you
know
that
so
vermont
has
a
very
interesting
and
unique
topography.
As
everyone
knows,
we've
got
a
ton
of
great
mountains
for
skiing
and
hiking
and
lakes
and
rivers
and
everything.
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
huge
attractions
of
vermont.
That's
part
of
the
reason
my
wife
and
I
moved
to
and
why
everyone
that
is
lucky
enough
to
grow
up
here,
loves
vermont
and
wants
to
stay
here.
As
far
as
how
that
affects
flying.
B
It's
it's
interesting,
so
burlington
international
airport
is,
you
know,
I
would
say
one
of
the
easier
airports
to
fly
into
because
it's
there
are
some
mountains
on
the
approach
end
for
one
of
the
runways,
but
for
the
most
part
it's
a
it's
a
flat
entry
to
the
runway.
So
it's
it's
fairly
easy
to
approach.
But
then
you
have
airports
like
middlebury
airport,
where
it's
very
close
to
some
mountains,
and
so
you
have
to
stay
on
one
side,
the
western
side
of
the
airport
to
land,
and
they
currently
don't
have
any
instrument
approaches.
B
Although
we'd
like
to
change
that
you
know
with
our
organization
would
like
to
get
that
changed
but
and
robin's
another
example.
You
know
we're
very
close
to
the
mountains,
so
you
have
to
be
comfortable
with
you
know,
flying
fairly
close
to
the
mountains
and
being
aware
of
how
the
wind
travels
over
the
mountains
and
how
that
could
affect
your
aircraft
during
flight.
So
it
is
something
where,
if
you're
going
to
fly
in
vermont,
you
need
it's
nothing.
You
know
overly
to
be
overly
concerned
about.
A
I
I
know
you
mentioned
one
or
two
businesses,
but
you
have
received
some
corporate
or
business
support
from
various
sectors
of
the
state.
Would
you
like
to
mention
some
of
those
people
before
yeah.
B
No
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
dennis.
So
at
the
moment,
we
haven't
proactively
seeked
any
sponsors.
Yet
that
will
change
once
our
website
is
up,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
companies
that
just
want
to
help
out
and
support
because
they
see
the
value
of
the
aviation
sector
to
not
only
their
businesses
but
to
the
communities.
B
So
we
have
a
number
of
sponsors
already,
and
these
are
all
sponsors
that
we
didn't
really
go
out
and
looking
for,
but
we've
partnered
with
so
one
is
cape
air,
so
cape
air
flies
from
rutland
to
boston
and
back
three
times
a
day.
B
So
if
anybody
didn't
know
that,
you
now
know
that
you
can
get
to
boston
from
rutland
three
times
a
day
which
is
really
nice,
because
there's
no
charge
for
parking
at
rutland
airport
and
anybody,
that's
ever
driven
to
boston
knows
that
it's
a
different
story
in
boston
parking
can
be
anywhere
from
thirty
to
fifty
dollars
a
day
depending
on
where
you're
parked.
So
that's
really
nice,
so
they've
they're
sponsoring
all
six
of
our
events
at
rutland,
which
is
really
great.
B
We
also
have
another
local
company
in
the
rutland
area
called
browns,
auto
salvage
and
they've.
They
are
a
financial
sponsor
for
the
season
for
our
events
in
rutland,
so
they're,
a
great
organization
that
wants
to
support
the
aviation
sector,
and
then
we
have
a
number
of
local
or
well
not
just
local,
but
local
and
regional
aviation
companies
who
are
supporting
us
by
donating
products.
So,
for
example,
wheel
and
aerospace
technologies
is
based
in
connecticut
and
they've,
been
donating,
led
landing
lights
for
aircraft
that
we
can
use
for
raffles.
B
B
So
we've
gotten
a
ton
of
support
from
local
and
regional
businesses
in
the
aviation
sector
and
outside
the
aviation
sector,
because
they
realize
the
value
of
having
a
strong
and
thriving
aviation
sector
in
the
state
of
vermont.
A
My
guest
and
certainly
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
have
you
back
in
the
near
future
when,
when
things
occur
and
you're
looking
for
more
public
interest
and
support-
and
this
has
been
very
a
very
excellent
interview-
and
thank
you-
my
guest
today
has
been
ryan
bliss,
the
president
of
the
vermont
aviators
association
here
on
positively
vermont.
This
is
dennis
mcmahon.