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Hosts Jimmy Leas and Danaka Katovich interview guest Ashley Adams. Ashley Adams owns a truck frame manufacturing company located on Airport Parkway across the street from the north end of the runway at Burlington International Airport. She also owns fourteen rental units nearby. She has first hand experience with the F-35 and its effect on business, jobs, and housing.
7/10/2023
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A
C
The
my
primary
concern
is
that
people
are
suffering
and
there
seems
to
be
an
utter
lack
of
awareness
about
this
problem,
so
elevating
that
the
fact
that
there
is
a
concern
grave
concern
about
human
health
and
child
development,
in
my
opinion,
City
councilors
are
leader.
Leaders
in
general
are
aiding
and
abetting
this
harm,
and
it's
immoral,
and
something
needs
to
be
done
about
that.
So
that
has
been
the
primary
thrust
of
my
argument.
C
Local
government
is
meant
to
protect
residents,
not
allow
harms
to
be
perpetrated
against
those
residents,
and
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
our
home
is
something
that
we
all
deserve
and
should
be
able
to
expect
and
I
can't
provide
that
any
longer
to
my
tenants
as
a
result
of
the
f-35.,
you
know,
I
I,
think
that
if
folks
in
other
parts
of
the
city
were
exposed
to
the
level
of
noise
that
my
tenants
are
exposed
to,
we
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation.
Quite
frankly,
you.
A
Know
that's
something:
I've
noticed
speaking
to
other
people
who
live
around
the
city
that
people
who
live-
let's
say
in
the
Southeast
quadrant
of
south
of
South
Burlington,
further
away
from
the
airport
sideways
to
the
runway
have
a
very
different
experience
than
people
who
live
in
what
the
Air
Force
designated
as
this
oval-shaped
noise
Zone
people
who
live
there
really
get
it
far
worse
than
people
who
live
further
away.
Like
we're.
The
mayor
of
Burlington
lives
on
Summit
Street,
it's
a
very
different
experience
loud,
it's
inconvenient.
A
It
interrupts
conversations,
but
it
isn't
at
the
level
of
pain
it
isn't
causing
suffering.
It
isn't
causing
children
to
cry,
and
so
they
think
that's
the
experience.
They
need
to
spend
some
time
in
the
neighborhood
where
this
is
really
excruciating
and
more
than
a
more
than
a
thousand
families
live
in
that
the
Air
Force
said:
3
000,
almost
3
000
families
live
in
the
extreme
noise
Zone.
C
I
I
have
the
experience
of
personally
experiencing
that
noise,
with
a
proximity
of
my
workplace
to
the
end
of
the
runway
and
and
then
and
knowing
that
my
tenants
are,
are
experiencing
that
and
then
driving
home
to
Burlington
and
having
what
you
just
described,
a
very
different
experience
where
certainly
we
can
hear
them
they're
a
nuisance,
but
what
folks
near
the
end
of
the
runway
are
experiencing
is
levels
of
magnitude
Beyond
nuisance.
So
it's
not
that
I've
heard
some
people
refer
to
it
as
a
NIMBY
problem.
B
C
Yeah
I
I
will
I
I'll.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
how
I
personally
experience
it
and
then
how
I
experience
it
as
as
a
business
owner
and
it's
you
know
for
for
me
personally,
I
I
grew
up
really
at
my
business.
My
parents
started
the
business
in
1968
and
it
was
a
very
quiet.
Sleepy
airport
I
even
had
a
borrowed
Pony
in
the
backyard,
and
we
my
dad
lived
there.
C
My
parents
were
divorced
and
I
would
stay
with
him
for
weeks
at
a
time
we
would
have
during
the
summer
the
windows
open
at
night.
It
was
a
very
different
place.
Let
me
tell
you,
the
F-16
really
changed
things
quite
dramatically
and
we
spend
a
good
deal
of
money
on
sound
noise,
attenuating
windows
for
the
office.
Well,
the
F-35
has
been
a
completely
different
experience
and
while
it
doesn't
completely
negate
the
the
help
from
investing
in
those
windows,
it
has,
it
has
really
impacted
our
ability
to
conduct
business
seamlessly
throughout
the
day.
C
You
know,
I
I,
don't
leave
the
windows
open
in
the
office,
because
I
certainly
can't
have
a
conversation
with
someone
or
a
phone
conversation.
While
the
windows
are
open-
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
do
during
a
phone
conversation,
is
panic
and
run
to
close
the
windows
in
time
so
and
it's
and
it's
distressing
quite
frankly,
when
you
walk
outside
to
when
I
go
to
my
car,
it's
it
I
can
feel
it
in
my
chest
when
they
fly
overhead
I
can
feel
the
sound
reverberate
throughout
my
body.
I
have
a
tight
chest.
C
Quite
ironically,
we
require
earplugs
to
be
worn
in
the
shop,
because
we,
the
sound
that
we
generate
as
a
business
within
the
manufacturing
floor
somewhat
exceeds
85
decibels,
so
they're
wearing
hearing
protection
throughout
the
day
you
know,
and
meanwhile
we
have
noise
exceeding
sometimes
110
decibels,
upwards
of
115
decibels
right
outside.
So
it's
it's
really
quite
ironic.
C
C
C
Many
people
exactly
right
next
door
to
the
former
Pizza
Hut,
exactly
yeah
and
you
know
I
actually,
while
we're
while
we're
on
the
topic,
if
we
have
a
moment
to
just
share
I,
have
some
feedback
that
I
wanted
to
share
from
three
employees.
That
I
think
we
can
just
share
on
the
screen
so
that
folks
get
a
little
bit
of
the
flavor
of
what
it's
like
to
work.
In
close
proximity
to
the
F-35
one
office,
employee
said
that
it's
almost
impossible
to
hear
each
other.
C
C
C
She
really
it's
quite
a
shocking
experience
to
deal
with
that
level
of
noise
and
we
we
liken
it
to
what
sounds
like
a
war
zone
and
it
and-
and
we
question
why
our
leaders
find
that
to
be
acceptable
as
a
mom,
I
question,
why
that
is
acceptable.
You
know
I
I,
never
imagined
being
a
mom
and
raising
a
child
in
these
conditions.
A
C
Yeah
there
are
so
my
tenants
are
working
class
folks.
Some
of
them
are
immigrants
and
new
Americans.
Several
of
them
have
children,
some
of
them
receive
rental
assistance
and
again
you
know
our
laws
are
meant
to
protect
residents
and
they
deserve
quiet
enjoyment
of
their
homes
and
I
and
I
actually
brought
something
that
I
think
about
frequently
is
you
know,
I'm
not
going
out
to
enjoy
that
picnic
table
during
lunch?
My
tenants
aren't
going
out
for,
for
other
reasons,
you
know
they
they
might
be
concerned
about
their
children
and
so
I
brought
I.
C
When
my
nine-year-old
was
a
bit
younger,
he
would
run
inside
covering
his
ears
when
you're
outside
and
they're
taking
off.
It's
very
uncomfortable.
There
have
been
many
occasions
when
one
of
us
has
been
sick
or
didn't
sleep
well
and
was
trying
to
sleep
when
they
took
off
they're
impossible
to
sleep
through,
and
it's
been
really
frustrating
when
our
kids
are
woken
up
when
they
needed
to
sleep
or
when
I
was
trying
to
get
work
done.
A
C
A
Of
way,
above
what
the
law
allows
for
civilian
aircraft,
it's
also
illegal
under
the
military's
own
regulations,
but
ours,
our
city,
state
and
federal
officials
seem
to
have
a
hearing
problem
when
it
comes
to
hurting
our
own
people
and
doing
what's
necessary
to
conform
to
the
law,
to
conform
to
the
regulations
and
to
conform
to
Human,
Rights
and
civil
rights
and
any
kind
of
decency
they
just
they
just
don't
they
don't
understand
the
rules,
they
don't
get
it.
They
pretend
they
don't
know
their
own
powers,
they're,
always
telling
us.
A
C
I
agree-
and
you
know
they're
they're
not
doing
their
jobs.
I
I
have
seen
I
haven't
seen
a
single
City
official
speak
out
and
speak
up
for
residents
of
Chamberlain
or
of
when
you
ski
or
surrounding
communities.
I
have
yet
to
see
that
and
I
question.
You
know
if
they
aren't
concerned
about
human
health,
why
aren't
they
concerned
about
degradation
of
the
housing
stock?
Why
aren't
they
concerned
about
the
housing
crisis
and
the
fact
that
44
Acres
have
around
the
airport
have
been
sacrificed
to
the
F-35?
C
How
many
houses
could
be
built
there
far
more
I'm
sure
than
the
200
that
were
demolished?
Think
of
the
beautiful
walkable
community?
That
would
result
if
we
could
restore
housing
to
those
44,
acres
and
and
think
of
the
habitable
community
that
we
could
create
for
the
rest
of
the
folks
who
are
living
there
right
now.
Think
of
the
think
of
the
Improvement
to
their
quality
of
life.
A
So
what
they
did
was
they
knowing
they
wanted
to
bring
the
F-35
here's
the
theory
knowing
they,
they
increased
the
Baseline
of
the
F-16.
So
then
they're,
comparing
the
F-35
with
a
much
much
higher
noise
level
for
the
F-16.
So
people
have
had
to
suffer
from
this
F-16
afterburner
from
2008
to
2019
until
the
F-35
arrived
for
no
good
reason
just
that
they
wanted
to
increase
the
Baseline.
A
Now,
if
that
isn't
despicable,
inhumane
gross,
just
mind-boggling
and
whole
generation
of
children
went
through
the
Chamberlain
school
and
went
through
schools
in
Winooski
and
in
Burlington
for
this
kind
of
maneuver.
Exactly
and
now
we
have
the
F-35,
which
is
just
as
loud
or
louder
than
the
F-16
afterburner,
but
it
doesn't
get
turned
off
when
the
F-16
took
off
with
the
afterburner
soon
after
it
left
the
ground,
they
turned
off
the
afterburner
because
it's
a
big
waste
of
fuel.
It's
a
gigantic
fuel
consumer.
A
So
if
they're
going
to
do
their
mission,
they
have
to
turn
it
off.
So
by
the
time
it
got
to
Winooski
one
mile
away,
it
had
long
been
off,
and
so
on
with
the
F-16.
There
was
no
real
change
in
the
noise
level
when
the
F-16
used
its
afterburner
for
takeoff,
but
now
with
the
F-35
as
loud
or
louder
than
the
F-16,
with
its
After
Burner
on
Winooski
is
being
crushed
Yeah
by
this
noise,
and
so
is
Williston
when
they
have
to
take
off
in
the
opposite.
A
B
I
actually
found
out
something
interesting
today
that
was
timely
for
this.
This
interview,
every
every
summer
in
August
Chicago,
where
I'm
based
has
the
largest
like
outdoor
free
Festival,
the
air
and
water
show
where
they
regularly
display
fighter
jets
and
for
about
a
week
before
the
the
the
show
they
have
all
these
fighter
jets
flying
around
the
city
doing
their
practice
runs
and
previously
they've
been.
B
You
know,
Blue,
Angels
or
f-22s
different
fighter
jets,
but
I
found
out
right
before
we
got
together
today
that
actually
the
F-35
is
going
to
be
in
the
air
and
water
show.
So
you
know
the
same
planes
that
are
causing
a
bunch
of
issues
in
Vermont
are
going
to
be
flying
over
the
third
largest
city
in
the
United
States
and
previously
activists
in
in
Chicago,
who
have
opposed
the
Aaron
water
show
oppose
it.
B
You
know,
obviously
the
noise
reasons,
and
you
know
this
is
only
going
to
be
worse
this
year
with
the
F-35,
because
the
noise
isn't
even
comparable
all
to
the
other
fighter
jets
that
they
they've
had
around
noise
has
been
a
complaint,
but
also
you
know,
issues
of
you
know.
Why
are
we
like
blowing
so
much
CO2
in
the
air,
for
you
know
to
watch?
A
Isn't
it
amazing,
the
the
airport
came
out
with
a
report
just
recently
that
says
that
99
of
airport
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
from
these
flights?
All
the
all
the
work
the
airport's
doing
is
for
its
ground
operations,
which
account
for
one
percent
of
the
emissions
of
the
airport
99.
They
don't
have
a
plan
for.
C
Right
exactly
no
no
plan
to
reduce
because
we're
not
even
we're
not
even
acknowledging
them
or
counting
them.
You
know
it's
much
like
the
McNeil
generating
plant.
We
don't
acknowledge
the
emissions,
we
don't
count
the
emissions
and
therefore
we
don't
plan
to
reduce
them.
And
meanwhile
we
burn
up
the
atmosphere.
Right
I
mean
it's
just
it's
it's!
It's
crazy
and.
A
They
don't
want
to
and
they
then
they
pretend
gee.
We
don't
get
it.
We
don't
know,
we
don't
have
power.
We
this
we
go
somewhere
else.
Yeah
go
file
a
loss.
This
was
the
latest
one
from
the
supposedly
most
concerned,
City
official
in
South
Burlington.
Who
said
why?
Don't
you
file
a
lawsuit
so
so
I
that
so
that
we
on
the
city
council,
including
me,
don't
have
to
do
anything.
C
A
Don't
have
to
do
anything
to
protect
the
people,
even
though
it's
the
job
of
City
officials
of
town
officials
of
Select
board
members,
whether
it's
a
village
town.
This
is
the
primary
job.
They
call
it
the
police
power
to
protect
the
civilians,
the
citizens
of
the
town,
now
that
job
could
mean
protecting
them
from
all
kinds
of
people,
but
it
also
involves
protecting
them
from
business
and
corporate
and
other
levels
of
government.
That's
what
we
have
divided
powers
in
this
country.
A
That's
the
plan
of
our
constitution,
because
the
founders
expected
one
level
of
government
to
do
bad
things,
and
it
would
be
corrected
by
action
of
the
other
levels
of
government.
But
here
we
have
our
city
officials,
collaborating
exactly
they're,
not
doing
their
job
they're,
not
defending
the
Constitution,
which
requires
them
to
stand
up
to
the
other
levels
of
government
when
they're
doing
something
wrong.
That's
the
whole
idea,
so
we
have
implemented
the
Tyranny.
The
founders
wanted
to
prevent
yeah.
C
It's
you
know
every
every
leader
in
surrounding
communities,
every
city,
city,
council,
member,
should
be
up
in
arms
about
this
problem
and
they
should
be
going
to
the
City
of
Burlington
and
demanding
change.
You
know
it's
Burlington
is
the
proprietor
of
the
airport
and
that
lease
needs
to
be
terminated.
You
cannot,
you
cannot.
A
Oh
I
think
you're
right
I
think
that
if
winooski's
City
officials,
if
South
Burlington,
City
officials
called
up
the
mayor
in
Burlington,
if
the
members
of
the
city
council
in
Burlington
would
speak
up
about
this
yeah
very
rapidly,
we
would
see
some
change
whether
they're
Progressive
Democrat.
We
don't
have
it
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
Republicans
on
the
city
council.
This
is
purely
a
Democrat
and
Progressive
City
councilor
issue,
that's
being
perpetrated
on
thousands
of
families.
Speaking.
C
Up
for
human
rights
that
it's
it's
a
it's
a
basic,
a
basic
role
that
they
should
be
playing,
and
you
know
here's
another
option
reach
out.
All
of
you
all
of
you,
leaders
reach
out
to
our
Congressional
delegate
delegation
and
let
them
know
that
we
have
been
it's
no
longer
theoretical.
We've
been
living
with
this
plane
for
since
2019
and
the
harms
are
real
and
something
must
be
done.
You
must
rebase
this
aircraft
right,
it's
get
it
get
it
out
of
our
populated
cities.
C
A
Emissions
really
give
them
I
mean
with
with
the
horrible
situation
we're
having
this
summer
with
this
air
qualities
problem
with
the
fires
with
the
extreme
temperature,
everything
is
going
wrong,
downhill,
fast,
Now's,
the
Time
to
seize
the
initiative
and
and
set
a
standard
for
all
aircraft
using
the
airport.
Exactly.
A
Miles
per
gallon
standard
that
would
eliminate
the
F-35.
It
would
eliminate
the
price
these
gas
guzzling
private
jets,
and
it
would
still
leave
in
place
the
civilian
commercial
airliners
that
99
of
the
people
or
more
rely
on
for
long-distance
Transportation,
because
those
get
more
than
a
hundred
passenger
miles
per
gallon,
and
it
would
also
it
would
also
include
the
cargo
aircraft
if
a
similar
standard
was
implemented.
Donica.
Do
you
have
any
further
questions
you
want
to
do.
C
C
My
duplex
buildings-
and
you
know
this
in
what
was
meant
to
be
a
buffer
zone
and
what
the
city
called
for
in
the
airport
itself
called
for
was
a
buffer
zone
between
airport
operations
and
and
Residences,
and
I
and
I
was
outraged
that
they
were
looking
to
eliminate
the
buffer
and
build
a
whatever
their
intention
was
it
would
it
would
be
noisy,
invariably,
so
I
got
involved
and
I.
Consequently,
I
attended
a
meeting.
I
expressed
my
frustration.
C
There
was
a
task
force
that
the
city
set
up
to
investigate
the
issue
and
they
I
thought
they
did
a
terrific
job
and
they
solicited
comments
from
the
public.
But
I
think
several
of
us
and
I
and
I
actually
met
several
folks
yourself
included
Jimmy
through
that
effort
were
aware
that
only
or
only
certain
individuals
can
attend
a
public
meeting
and
we
felt
that
it
was
important
to
get
out
in
the
community
and
actually
talk
with
residents.
So
we
canvassed
the
community.
C
We
circulated
a
petition
and
we
brought
that
petition
to
city
leaders
and
that
task
force
ultimately
voted
unanimously
to
say
no
to
rezoning
to
recommend
no
to
rezoning
and
the
Planning
Commission
agreed
to
decline.
That
rezoning
effort
so
very
happy
about
that.
But
who
knows
what
the
airport
has
up
their
sleeves
next
right.
A
A
Now
that
campaign
was
really
an
inspiration,
because,
as
a
result
of
the
canvassing
and
as
a
result
of
the
petition
and
the
work
that
you
and
others
did,
many
people
came
out
to
the
public
meetings
and
one
after
another.
They
spoke
about
against
the
airport
expansion
and
they
also
spoke
against
the
F-35,
which
for
many
people
was
driving
the
opposition
to
the
expansion
because
they
just
had
had
it
exactly.
C
It
just
for
me,
it
was
piling
insult
upon
injury
to
even
consider
allowing
the
rezoning
and
when
we
were
canvassing
I
remembered
and
I'll
wrap
it
up,
but
I
remembered
talking
with
so
many
folks
who,
just
were
distrustful
of
the
airport
felt
powerless
to
do
anything,
knew
that
the
airport
would
do
whatever
they
wanted
to
do
were
concerned
that
they
would
potentially
even
lose
their
housing.
At
some
point
it
was
a
real
eye-opener.