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A
Hi
friends
Sinead
here
with
v
per
glue,
some
more
exciting
news.
Town
union
day
elections
will
be
using
ranked
Choice
voting
for
the
first
time
since
the
2021
Charter
change
and
all
Burlington
voters
get
to
participate,
I'm
familiar
with
ranked
Choice
voting,
keep
watching
or
click
the
link
below
ranked
Choice
voting
lets.
Voters
rank
candidates
in
order
of
preference
first,
second,
third
and
so
on.
If
your
vote
can't
help
your
first
choice
win,
it
counts
to
your
second
choice.
Instead,
here's
how
it
works.
A
If
one
candidate
gets
over
50
percent
of
everyone's
First
Choice
votes
they
win
and
the
election
is
over.
However,
If
no
candidate
reaches
a
majority.
The
candidate
with
the
fewest
First
Choice
votes
is
eliminated
and
their
supporters
votes
will
count
toward
their
second
choice.
This
process
continues
until
one
candidate
reaches
over
50
percent
of
the
vote.
Ranked
Choice
voting
gives
voters
more
voice,
more
choice
and
makes
for
a
stronger
democracy,
learn
more
about
ranked
choice
or
try
it
out
for
yourself
at
betterballotvermont.org,
ETV
2023.
A
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meeting
Day
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series
of
forums
that
we
are
bringing
to
you
in
advance
of
town
meeting
day
on
Tuesday
March,
7th,
2023
town
meeting,
TV
hosts
forums
with
all
candidates
and
covers
all
ballot
items.
You'll
see
on
your
ballot
town
meeting
TV
election
forums,
introduce
you
to
community
decision
makers
and
connect
you
with
issues
that
shape
your
local
community.
If
you
are
tuning
in
live,
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welcome
your
questions
at
802-862-3966.
A
B
Yeah
I'm
running
because
I
think
that
our
city
council
is
no
longer
representative
of
the
population
of
Burlington
I
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
on
Council
who
are
there
because
they
can
afford
to
be
right.
We
have
retired
folks.
B
We
have
folks
who
have
a
lot
of
free
time
and
high
incomes
and
I
think
that
excuse
me
I
think
that
it's
important
to
have
Working,
Class,
People
I
think
it's
important
to
have
people
who
have
experienced
struggle
who
are
connected
within
the
community
with
people
who
are
struggling
and
who
are
addressing
these
issues
on
the
front
lines
I
want
to
serve.
My
community
I
always
have
served.
My
community
and
I
see
this
as
another
opportunity
to
continue
serving
my
community
great.
C
Yeah
thanks
Sinead,
you
know
I'm
running,
you
know,
because
I
love,
Burlington,
my
wife
and
I
have
lived
here
a
long
time.
We
own
a
home
here
in
Burlington,
our
three
kids
go
to
school
in
Burlington.
My
business
is
in
downtown
Burlington
and
we
love
the
community
and
in
recent
years
we
have
been
concerned
about
Burlington
and
about
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
seeing
in
the
city
and
our
neighbors
and
our
community
members
have
been
concerned
too.
C
They've
been
concerned
about
affordability,
they'd,
be
concerned
about
Public
Safety
and,
most
recently
in
the
East
District
they've,
been
concerned
about
our
level
of
representation.
We
had
two
of
our
city
council,
folks
resign
and
for
a
good
number
of
months
we
were.
We
were
instead
of
having
three
City
councilors.
C
We
had
one
city,
councilor,
counselor
Hightower,
who
I
think
has
done
a
wonderful
job,
but
she's
only
she's,
only
one
person,
so
we've
been
concerned
about
making
sure
that
the
East
district,
and
particularly
Ward
8,
who
was
without
any
representation,
has
a
full
complement
of
city
council
people.
So
you
know
I
think
what
I
can
bring
to
the
city
council
and
what
I
hope
to
bring
to
the
city
council
is
an
independent
minded,
non-partisan
collaborative
Common,
Sense
approach
to
City
governance.
A
C
So
absolutely
supporting
the
budget.
I
said:
I
have
three
kids.
My
son
Sam
is
at
BHS.
My
son
Abe
is
at
Edmonds,
and
my
littlest
guy
Malachi
is
right
down
the
street
here
at
IAA.
C
So
you
know
very
much
in
favor
of
the
school
budget
have
been
concerned
about
teacher
cuts.
In
fact,
one
of
the
cuts
that
was
on
the
table
was
a
cut
at
IAA.
Also,
though,
understand
the
need
to
mitigate
as
much
as
possible
the
increase
in
the
property
taxes.
So
it's
it's
tough
balance,
but
very,
very
much
believe
that
a
strong
and
healthy
public
school
system
is
a
keystone
of
a
vibrant
economy
and
then
a
Vibrant
Community
great.
A
A
D
D
Okay
am
I
on
now,
yep,
okay,
I.
Think,
there's
a
lag!
That's
why
I'm
hearing
okay,
so
my
question
for
both
of
the
candidates
has
to
do
with
the
Trinity
campus
zoning
proposed
zoning
amendments,
which
will
be
coming
before
the
city
council,
soon
haven't
been
approved
by
the
or
passed
on
by
the
the
Planning
Commission.
D
My
question
is:
what
is
your
position
on
the
proposed
zoning
amendments
sought
by
UVM
and
what
position
will
you
take
and
what
do
you
think
that
the
city
can
and
should
do
in
response
to
those
proposed
zoning
amendments.
B
I
think
that
the
zoning
amendments
are
very
reasonable
and
they
are
very
normal
for
projects
such
as
this,
but
we
have
a
problem
with
ubm.
We
have
a
problem
with
the
fact
that
they
want
to
build
more
housing
so
that
they
can
admit
more
students
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
members
of
this
community
have
raised
the
fact
that
our
memorandum
of
understanding,
what
is
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes,
so
the
University
of
Vermont,
does
not
pay
property
taxes.
B
They
make
a
payment
to
the
city
every
year
in
lieu
of
taxes
and
our
memorandum
of
understanding
has
elapsed
and
we
do
not
have
one
and
we
need
to
sign
a
new
one.
That
is
my
understanding
of
things
and
well.
This
is
leverage,
but
for
me
you
know
I
I,
like
to
think
about
the
long-term
growth
of
Burlington
I.
Think
that,
for
a
very
long
time
throughout
the
country
cities
states,
our
country
has
been
governed
without
a
long-term
vision
of
sustainability.
B
So,
for
me,
I
think
what
is
important
to
the
Trinity
campus
Redevelopment
is
that
we
need
to
anticipate
what
does
Burlington
look
like
in
10,
20,
30
50
years
right.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
development
happens
there
it
is
scalable.
So
it
is
the
right
size
for
right
now,
but
it
it
can
become
what
it
needs
to
be
that
it
incorporates
scalable
infrastructure
and
transportation.
I
think
that
there
is
more
than
just
the
mou
at
play
to
consider.
C
Thanks
so
you
know,
I
think
the
proposal
for
the
Trinity
campus
in
principle
is
a
good
one,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
an
incredibly
important
that
we
take
this
moment
to
sit
down
at
the
table
with
the
university
and
negotiate
with
a
sharp
eye
toward
the
University's
role
and
responsibilities
for
our
community.
So
if
we
are
going
to
build
student
housing
on
the
Trinity
campus,
are
we
also
going
to
see
the
university
increase
enrollment
and
if
the
university
does
increase
undergraduate
enrollment?
C
So
you
know
that
negotiation
education
process
has
to
play
out,
but
I
think
that
the
city
council
really
really
needs
to
focus
on
this
issue,
and
you
know
you
know
I
would
like
you
know.
Jake
talked
about
what
what
Vision
we
have
for
the
city
and
I.
Think
it's
a
good
question,
an
important
question.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
about
with
respect
to
housing.
Is
you
know,
do
we
want
I
want?
C
You
know
Burlington
to
be
a
city
where
more
of
our
nurses
and
our
firemen
and
our
school
teachers
can
afford
to
live
where
we
have
affordable
housing.
So
we
can
have
a
broader,
deeper
housing
base
for
folks
along
all
sides
of
the
economic
spectrum
and
the
University
of
Vermont
plays
a
huge
role
in
those
Dynamics,
and
the
city
council
has
to
take
that
incredibly
seriously.
Great.
A
B
Well,
I'll
tell
you
something
that
I'm
concerned
about
is
4.9
percent.
We
had
10
percent
inflation
over
the
past
year,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
care
of
our
teachers
right.
I,
support,
School
budgets
generally,
because
I
think
that
school
boards
are
very
fiscally
conservative
as
a
rule,
because
school
budgets
are
generally
very
controversial.
B
We
have
Staffing
that
is
going
to
get
lower
over
the
next
year
and
that's
because
our
our
enrollment
is
going
down.
We
have
people
retiring,
so
there
will
not
be
layoffs.
We're
told
so
I
think
that's
great,
but
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
taking
care
of
those
same
Frontline
workers
that
Tim
referenced,
that
we
want
to
make
sure
they
can
afford
to
live
in
the
city
and
part
of
it
is
affordable
housing,
but
part
of
it
is
also
making
sure
that
we
take
care
of
the
people.
B
A
Great
thanks
so
much
Burlington
has
six
items
before
the
voters
on
the
ballot.
Those
are
proposition:
zero,
instant,
runoff
voting,
all
Resident
voting,
redistricting,
Citizen,
Police
oversight,
body
and
a
polling
place
change
of
these.
How
will
you
vote
and
what
do
you
feel
the
most
strongly
about
and
why
we'll
go
Tim,
okay,.
C
So
you
know,
let's
start
with
proposition
zero.
You
know
I'm
opposed
to
it.
I
am
a
tremendous
supporter
of
representational
democracy.
I
worry
very
much
that
this
is
going
to
introduce
large
amounts
of
unknowable
unseeable
outside
money
into
our
Community
debates.
So
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
it
I
think
the
best
approach
is
engaged
City
councilors
and
an
Engaged
community,
so
I,
don't
oppose
or
I
do
oppose
that
instant
runoff
voting
I
think
there's
a
tremendous
value
of
having
some
consistency.
C
We
have
it
in
the
city,
council,
races,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
that
I
do
hope.
We
do
more
work
to
to
explain
it
so
that
we
that
people
understand
it,
but
I
I
am
in
favor
of
it
all
Resident
voting
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
it
of
folks
who
are
legal
residents
in
our
community
are
members
of
our
full
members
of
our
community.
They
work
here.
They
contribute,
they
pay
taxes
and
they
should.
They
should
have
the
right
to
vote
here.
The
next
one
is
redistricting.
C
You
know
the
map
is
not
I
think
what
I
would
have
chosen.
Having
said
that,
I
personally
am
going
to
support
it.
I
think
that
there's
value,
even
though
this
is
not
I,
think
anyone's
first
choice,
I
think
that
there's
value
in
moving
forward
and
trying
to
build
some
Community
within
the
wards
and
the
districts
that
we
have
as
they're.
C
Now
as
they're
going
to
be
drawn,
you
know
if
I,
if
I
were
elected
and
I'm
on
the
council
in
10
years,
I
think
it's
really
really
critical,
that
all
of
the
wards
and
all
of
the
districts
have
full
representation,
because
I
think
that
the
absence
of
full
representation,
particularly
in
the
East
district
and
particularly
with
Ward
8,
contributed
some
of
the
the
hard
feelings
and
the
difficulties
with
redistricting
The
Citizen
Police
oversight
body
very,
very
much.
Supportive
of
and
appreciative
of,
the
motivation
behind
it.
C
I,
too,
absolutely
demand
that
we
have
an
accountable
Police
Department
that
is
full
of
the
best
and
the
brightest
and
the
the
best
trained
officers
that
we
can
attract
and
recruit,
and
that
Police
Department
must
be
accountable
to
our
community
and
it
must
do
the
important
repair
work
that
it
needs
to
in
order
to
rebuild
Community
Trust.
So
in
terms
of
the
goal
that
I,
that
I
think
is
behind
this
initiative,
I
support,
it
I
think
it's
the
wrong
tool
to
achieve
those
goals
for
multiple
reasons,
I
think
it's
profoundly
unfair
to
our
officers.
C
C
I
worry
that
it
will
not
have
the
transparency
effect.
The
sunshine
effect
that
its
proponents
think
it
will
I
think
a
lot
of
these
decisions
about
employee
discipline,
officer
discipline
would
still
have
to
take
place.
An
executive
session
and
I
think
it
is
noteworthy
that
you
know
that
members
of
law
enforcement,
former
members
of
law
enforcement
people
who
have
experience
in
law
enforcement
would
be
prohibited
from
serving
so
I.
Don't
think
it's
good
policy
and
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
it.
A
B
I
do
know
all
of
those,
but
sometimes
when
you're
going
through
the
whole
list,
you
come
across
five
and
then
like
which
one
did
I
miss
so
going
through
it
in
order
proposition,
zero
I
support
I
have
been
involved
in
the
effort
to
collect
signatures
for
proposition
zero
for
a
very
long
time,
and
that's
actually
how
I
got
involved
in
the
effort
to
collect
signatures
for
the
citizen
oversight
board
at
the
time
I
was
living
in
the
new
North
End,
not
a
whole
lot
of
support
for
signing
that
petition
to
get
people
to
sign
it.
B
Like
you
know,
you
really
needed
to
dig
in
and
get
into
the
details
and
talk
about
it,
because
people
were
very
skeptical
and
they
were
like
well
I
want
to
know
what
I'm
signing
here
and
and
I
I
was
like
I.
You
know
I
want
to
get
into
that
with
you,
but
I
really
want
to
pitch
you
on
proposition
zero
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
people
coming
through
this
polling
place.
So
maybe
I'll
just
put
that
one
on
the
on
the
back
burner
for
a
minute
and
I.
B
Just
say
that
by
way
of
you
know
some
of
the
allegations
out
there
about
you
know
people
not
thinking
about
what
they're
signing
that
might
be
true
up
at
UVM
or
I.
Don't
know,
I,
don't
want
to
judge
those
students
that
that's
not
necessarily
true
proposition
zero.
B
It
is
a
way
for
the
people
to
participate
when
they
feel
that
they
are
not
afforded
that
opportunity
right.
Our
city
councilors
have
two-year
terms.
Our
mayor
has
a
three-year
term
right
after
you
get
in
you
know
you
can
you
can
pass
resolutions,
you
can
change
things
and
you
know
you're
you're
insulated
from
any
retaliation
from
the
electorate.
B
If
you
go
against
the
the
best
interest
of
the
people,
so
proposition
0
is
I,
think
just
a
way
for
our
community
to
engage
in
meaningful
dialogues
and
to
propose
Solutions,
so
I'll
move
into
Irv
because
or
RCV
ranked
Choice
voting
I
support
it
I
support
it,
because
I
am
opposed
to
a
two-party
system.
That's
why
I
I
ran
as
an
independent
last
time
around,
but
I
think
proposition.
Zero
allows
for
ranked
Choice
voting
of
ballot
initiatives.
B
It's
it
has
Provisions
so
that
you
can
propose
Alternatives
and
you
can
have
competing
ideas
for
how
to
solve
problems
all
Resident
voting.
Absolutely
100
percent
without
any
doubt
support
all
Resident
voting,
not
just
because
I
think
that
everyone
should
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
electing
officials,
but
I
think
all
Resident
voting
allows
for
non-citizen
residents
to
run
for
for
office
in
the
city
to
be
on
the
school
board
to
serve
as
election
officials,
Etc
and
I.
B
Think
that
is
of
vital
importance
if
we
really
want
to
include
people
and
if
we
really
want
to
understand
the
variety
of
perspectives
in
this
community,
because
I
so
vehemently
support
all
Resident
voting
I
do
not
support
the
redistricting
I.
Do
not
support
redistricting,
because
my
first
home
that
I
purchased
in
Burlington
well,
just
my
first
home
that
I
purchased
was
in
the
king,
Maple
neighborhood.
B
That's
a
neighborhood
of
Working
Class
People!
It
is
a
neighborhood
that
is
the
most
diverse
neighborhood
in
Vermont
and
for
a
very
very
long
time
it
has
been
the
neighborhood
where
the
lines
get
redrawn.
Every
time
redistricting
happens
this
little
chunk
of
that
neighborhood
goes
over.
Here
that
one
goes
over
there,
it's
it's,
they
are
the
people
who
lose
so
that
every
other
neighborhood
can
stay
in
the
district
or
the
ward
that
they
want
to
stay
in
right
with
the
redistricting.
Somebody
has
to
be
the
loser
and
I.
B
Don't
think
that
you
know
if
we
want
to
do
better
and
if
we
want
to
create
the
inclusive
community
that
we
all
espouse
so
frequently,
we
need
to
start
the
works
at
some
point
and
I.
Think
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
it.
I
mean
I,
see
those
opportunities
all
the
time
everywhere,
but
this
is
just
yet
another
I
support
the
citizens
oversight
board,
because
I
support
the
police
right
I
think
that
Burlington's
police
force
is
very
professional.
B
They
are
very
qualified,
I
watch
the
swearing-in
ceremony
from
February,
2nd
I
believe
it
was
I,
was
really
impressed
by
the
comments
that
acting
Chief
Mirad
made
about
the
vision
and
aspirations
of
our
police
department
and
our
police
force.
I
was
really
impressed
by
the
credentials
of
the
people
that
were
coming
on
board
and
joining
the
team.
I
was
really
impressed
by
the
diversity
of
that
cohort.
I
think
that
our
police
have
long
for
a
very
long
time
wanted
to
be
and
do
the
things
that
our
community
wants
from
them.
B
I
don't
see
this
as
as
confrontational
or
oppositional
I
see
it
as
the
community
creating
an
opportunity
to
engage
in
a
meaningful
way
to
create
a
process.
To
do
better.
I
would
say
that
just
to
Tim's
points,
discipline
still
stays
with
the
chief.
It's
really
only
those
egregious
instances.
I,
don't
think
that
morale
will
go
down.
I
think
morale
will
actually
improve.
As
a
result,
I
don't
want
to
take
up
the
remainder
of
the
time
going
into
that
the
appointment
of
the
committee
that
is
very
normative.
B
This
type
of
democracy
goes
back
as
long
as
we
have
had
democracy
I'm
going
to
get
the
pronunciation
run
wrong,
but
like
these
committees,
these
appointment
committees,
I
I,
believe
they
used
to
be
called
zenobs
in
ancient
Athens
transparency.
I
I
refute
that
transparency
is
not
going
to
exist.
I
think
that
the
argument
that
there
is
no
transparency
is
based
on
the
fact
that,
yes,
because
city
council
still
needs
to
write
those
rules.
B
Finally
law
enforcement
officer
is
not
allowed
I.
You
know
when
I
was
collecting
signatures.
I
I
had
told
people
yeah
I,
don't
like
that
either
and
I
feel
like
I.
Would
I
might
even
Advocate
against
that
at
a
certain
point.
B
But
you
know
the
people
who
made
this
put
a
lot
of
work
and
effort
into
it
and
they
had
a
lot
of
really
good
conversations
and
I
want
to
respect
them
so
I,
you
know,
I
tried
to
understand
and
I'm
bought
in
I'm
I'm
all
for
no
law
enforcement
officers
allowed,
because
it
will
allow
for
the
level
of
trust
that
this
community
oversight
board
seeks
to
instill.
What's
more,
you
know
they
still
get
to
be
allowed
in
the
process.
Finally
polling
places
yeah.
Absolutely:
let's
do
it
great.
A
A
C
Yeah,
so
so
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
have
been
concerned
about
are
the
increasing
levels
of
firearm
violence,
and
not
just
here
in
Burlington
but
of
course
across
communities
in
Vermont
and
and
across
the
country.
C
So
I
have
been
really
interested
in
S4,
which
is
currently
I,
I,
think
out
of
committee
in
the
Senate,
which
would
make
it
a
State
Crime
to
engage
in
what's
called
a
straw
purchase
of
a
firearm,
it's
already
a
federal
crime.
It
would
make
it
a
State
Crime
to
obscure
a
serial
number
on
a
firearm.
C
It
would
impose
age
limitations
on
the
acquisition
of
semi-automatic
handguns,
and
you
know,
gun
policy
is,
has
long
been
something
that
I
have
that
I
have
focused
on
both
professionally
but
but
also
have
a
tremendous
personal
interest.
C
Like
I
said,
I
have
I
have
three
kids
in
public
school.
My
my
wife
is
the
principal
of
a
public
school,
so
the
four
people
who
I
love
most
in
the
world
are
in
a
school
every
single
day
and
I.
Think
it's
really
really
critical
that
we
address
firearm
violence
in
this
country.
Obviously,
this
bill
is
not
going
to
do
it
on
its
own,
but
it's
a
good
step,
so
I've
been
following
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
positive
here
for
Burlington
and
positive
for
Vermont.
B
Well,
you
know
I've
said
a
lot
about
the
community
oversight,
Board
of
police,
so
certainly
I'm,
following
the
conversations
that
are
underway
right
now,
around
oversight
of
police
at
the
state
level.
Right
that
we're
talking
about
oversight
of
Sheriff's
departments,
the
national
level
President
Biden
included
it
in
his
State
of
the
Union
Address.
We
need
oversight
of
police.
So
that's
certainly
something
that
I'm
following
in
the
legislature.
B
Beyond
that,
I
think
that
we
really
specifically
in
this
city,
we
need
to
be
paying
a
great
deal
of
attention
and
really
working
with
our
legislators
around
the
moratorium
on
school
building.
Funding
right.
The
the
state
historically
has
supported
the
building
of
schools
with
subsidies
and
and
cost
sharing,
and
they
don't
do
that
anymore.
B
I,
don't
know
where
the
publicity
is
at
so
I
don't
want
to
out
anybody's
bills
that
are
in
the
works,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
I
think
we
should
not
be
building
prisons,
but
we
should
not
be
building
prisons
and
failing
to
build
schools
and
I
would
also
add
Troy
our
our
representative
in
Chittenden
15..
B
A
B
Yeah
I
think
like
there
are
two
two
things
that
I'd
like
to
address:
that
I've
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
about
one.
Is
that
I'm
part
of
a
group
that
doesn't
like
cops
I
I?
Don't
think
that
group
doesn't
like
cops
I
think
that
group
really
does
recognize
that
Public
Safety
is
very
important
and
the
police
are
necessary
for
Public
Safety.
B
Nobody
I,
don't
think
it's
reasonable
to
think
that
folks
might
put
in
so
much
effort
to
create
this
system
to
exact
Revenge.
So
I
just
really
ask
that
you
challenge
that
assumption
and
and
have
a
willingness
to
engage
in
that
debate
in
that
discourse.
Just
you
know
ask
why
do
you
support
this
right?
B
C
Yeah,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
found
to
be
incredibly
fun
about
this
process.
So
far
is
getting
out
and
knocking
on
doors
and
meeting
people.
Meeting
Jake
meeting
you
and
but
particularly
in
the
community
in
the
East
district
and
I,
have
been
really
sort
of
inspired
by
how
engaged
people
are
in
our
in
our
area
how
knowledgeable
they
are
about
these
issues.
Sometimes
it's
a
little
bit
intimidating,
but
it's
been
really
fun
and
it's
been
really.
C
It's
been
giving
me
a
tremendous
amount
of
of
Hope
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
city
is
facing
challenges,
but
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
here
too,
and
I
really
I
hope
to
be
elected
to
the
city
council,
because
I'm
really
excited
to
do
to
do
that
work
and
to
continue
that
level
of
Engagement
great.
A
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