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B
Yeah,
just
so,
anyone
following
at
home
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
explanation
of
where
we
are
so
we
are
missing
a
few
folks
tonight.
I
wanted
to
keep
the
agendas
not
too
heavy,
just
because
we
may
have
to
repeat
some
things
in
order
to
get
a
full
body
to
sort
of
weigh
in
on
what
are
some
pretty
substantial
items.
So
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
tonight
on
this
item
is
just
sort
of
introduce
some
things.
B
I
know
you
feel
like
we,
we
just
finished
this.
Why
are
you
giving
us
more,
but
as
I've
sort
of
shared
in
the
memo
here,
I
think
we
had
to
rush
the
last
supplement
a
little
bit
in
order
to
to
stay
in
tune
with
the
Wastewater
regulations.
So
there
are
a
few
items
that
have
sort
of
backed
up
a
little.
Some
of
these
have
come
from
our
development
review
board,
which
they've
identified
as
some
things
that
just
keep
coming
up
for
them.
B
This
is
not
meant
to
be
a
comprehensive
list,
but
just
some
ones
that
I'd
had
sort
of
hanging
out
a
couple
of
them
will
be
sort
of
I.
Think
will
involve
a
pretty
fair
policy
discussion.
A
couple
of
them
are
sort
of
clean
up
housekeeping.
Let's
just
make
sure
that
the
language
is
a
little
bit
tighter
than
what
it
is
now
so
and
I'll
walk
through
each
of
them
again.
This
there's
no
text
that's
associated
with
these,
yet
it's
just
to
sort
of
introduce
the
idea.
B
So,
let's
get
started
here
again:
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
to
Too
Much
depth,
so
accessory
structure,
exemptions,
anyone
not
familiar
with
accessory
structures.
So
in
Colchester
like
a
lot
of
towns,
there
are
certain
things
that
we
group
under
the
title
of
accessory
structure.
All
accessory
structures
do
need
permits,
while
not
an
exhaustive
list.
The
easy
ones
tend
to
be
swimming
pools,
sheds
decks,
patios
gazebos,
those
tend
to
be
the
things
that
we
see
the
most
frequently.
B
Well,
I,
don't
know
is
that
a
structure
if
it
is,
is
an
accessory
structure,
and
so
we
started
to
look
through
the
regulations
and
we
saw
that
there's,
there's
not
really
clear
definition
of
what's
exempt
and
so
I
think
it's
been
a
judgment,
call
based
on
sort
of
whoever
the
staff
is
at
that
point.
So
my
hope
here
is
just
to
clean
that
up
a
little
talk
through
some
common
structures
play
structures,
for
example,
somewhere
in
here
under
100
square
feet
is
exempt,
but
it's
not.
B
We
had
a
very
nice
gentleman
and
the
other
day
who
was
asking
about
whether
or
not
his
flagpole
flying
the
U.S
flag
at
25
feet
needed
a
permit
and
it
was
a
little
embarrassing
to
sit
there
scratching
our
head
and
saying
we
don't
know
so
we
you
know
I'd
like
to
to
talk
about
some
of
these
things
and
and
just
get
direction
from
you
as
to
whether
any
of
these
things
should
be
exempt
a
more
exhaustive
list
when
we
come
back
to
it.
But
that's
the
general
idea.
B
Mobile
food
units,
food
trucks,
as
you
might
call
them,
there
is
limited
language
in
our
regulations
for
mobile
food
units.
It
dates
back
quite
a
bit.
We
used
to
call
them
seasonal
mobile
food
units
in
one
of
the
supplements,
maybe
during
some
of
your
time
or
before
the
seasonal
part
was
struck,
but
it's
a
very
limited
regulation
that
relates
to
Mobile
Food
units,
there's,
there's
a
definition
and
then
there's
a
table
of
uses.
So
in
there
it
says
these
are
where
they
may
exist
in
certain
zoning
districts.
B
So
there
are
certain
zoning
districts
where
you
cannot
have
a
mobile
food
unit
at
all.
I
would
suggest
if
we
go
forward
with
this
sort
of
topic.
We
just
revisit
that
list
and
make
sure
it's
still
a
list
that
makes
some
sense
and
I
would
probably
want
to
build
out.
The
definition
of
what
a
mobile
food
unit
is
mobile.
Food
trucks
have
are
permitted
largely
in
two
ways.
B
Through
the
Peddler's
ordinance,
they
would
go
to
the
select
board
after
having
gone
through
a
staff
review,
but
they're
also
permitted
through
zoning
when
they
might
take
up
a
site.
So
if
it's
just
a
truck
that
is
pedaling
ice
cream
in
your
neighborhood
and
never
actually
sits
anywhere,
there's
no
zoning
related
to
it.
If
it
is
a
truck
or
vehicle
camper
that
stays
in
a
single
spot,
it
needs
some
level
of
review.
B
B
B
C
B
Huge
deck,
huge
large,
refrigerated
coolers,
like
walk-in
size,
coolers
in
the
back
that
are
the
size
of
like
a
large
van,
it's
actually
quite
delicious,
but
it's
caused
some
consternation
in
town,
because
it's
like
is
that
really
a
food
truck
or
is
it
kind
of
a
restaurant
masquerading
as
a
food
truck
and
So?
To
avoid
that
happening?
I
think
here,
you
know,
be
good
to
just
be
clear
up
front
as
to
when
it's
a
food
truck,
not
a
food
truck.
B
When
is
it
an
actual
structure
and
just
attach
some
some
known
things
to
it?
That
would
be
go
through
the
public
process,
one
time
so
that
it's
much
easier
to
permit
them
going
forward,
they're
very
popular
after
2020
they
became
even
more
popular
people,
love
them
and
I
think
they.
There
have
been
studies
that
shown
that
they,
they
really
improve
a
sense
of
community,
so
they
they
can
be
quite
nice.
B
We
don't
anymore
last
spring,
there
was
a
there's
a
bit
of
a
discussion,
because
there
was
the
one,
the
Fridays
d-a-z-e,
which
was
at
the
corner
of
East
Lake,
Shore
and
Blakely.
Here,
the
pink,
the
pink
truck
they
had
had
a
conditional
use
approval
where
there
were
some
requirements
attached
to
it,
that
sort
of
sprang
up
at
a
drb
meeting.
B
B
Is
it
being
met
and
that
one
ended
up
being
a
little
bit?
It
could
not
be
permitted
because
it
did
have
that
site
plan.
That
said,
had
to
be
removed
from
the
site
every
day
for
better
or
worse,
and
it
could
not
be
or
would
not
be
because
it
was
not
operable
so
that
didn't
get
us
fantastic
press
or
friends,
but
yeah.
B
You
know
by
and
large
other
than
that,
though
it
did
have
a
small
deck
associated
with
it.
You
almost
wouldn't
know
it
was
there.
Unless
you
were
kind
of
looking
at
it.
There
was
some
limited
seating.
There
was
they
had
a
site
plan
that
did
show
a
limited
number
of
parking
and
circulation,
which
is
important.
I
think
you
don't
want
a
food
truck
where
that
is
popular,
where
cars
are
backing
up
and
making
a
mess.
B
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
that
I,
don't
know
of
any
right
now
that
are
fixed.
We
do
hear
about
them.
You
know
in
in
terms
of
events
or
we've
heard
from
some
of
the
larger
employers
up
on
Like
Water,
Tower
Hill,
saying
hey
can
I
have
a
truck
here,
every
Friday
or
or
those
probably
don't
end
up
getting
regulated
under
under
this
because
they're
so
temporary.
D
B
Know
that's
a
great
question:
I,
don't
know
about
the
taxes.
I
could
look
into
it.
I
don't
know
the
answer
for
the
Peddlers
permit.
There
is
a
small
fee,
I
want
to
say
it's
eighty
dollars
season,
but
we
are
working.
We
being
three
department
heads
or
the
town
clerk
or
the
town,
Economic
Development
officer
and
myself
are
working
on
revamping
the
Peddler's
ordinance
so
that
those
so
it's
also
being
more
clear
and
easier
in
there
because
what's
happening
is
you
might
get
a
food
truck?
B
Who
comes
in
and
says
I
just
want
to
set
up
the
permitting
time
associated
with
that
can
can
exceed
a
month
in
some
cases
and
so
we're
trying
to
streamline
that
a
little
bit
so
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
have
a
full
hearing.
We
can
have
some
very
clear
standards
and
move
along
quicker,
but
that's
a
work
in
progress.
B
So
that's
what
that
one
is
pre-existing.
Non-Conforming
structures
updates
to
demolition
standards,
so
this
one's
actually
I
think
fairly
simple.
It's
a
cleanup
item.
We
have
pretty
good
regulations
for
if
you
have
a
pre-existing
structure,
maybe
it's
something
at
the
lake
or
something
a
small
lot
that
would
not
conform
today
could
not
be
built
under
today's
regulations,
but
you
have
certain
rights
associated
with
it.
B
If
you
tear
it
down,
you
can
rebuild
it
generally
in
most
parts
of
town
within
a
year
in
the
exact
same
spot,
we've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
the
Lakeshore
and
stuff.
The
the
the
the
missing
piece
in
our
regulations
is
that
there's
no
requirement
in
there
that's
associated
with
the
teardown
part.
B
B
Okay,
all
right
temporary
certificates
of
occupancy,
so
anytime,
our
office
issues,
a
building
and
zoning
permit,
no
matter
what
it's
for
bathroom
renovation,
new
deck
brand
new
house,
new
60
unit
building,
you
are
required
to
get
an
inspection
afterward
for
a
certificate
of
occupancy
and
largely
what
we
do
with
that
is
to
say.
Did
you
build
what
you
said?
B
You
were
going
to
build
they're
very
easy
in
some
ways,
because
some
of
them
are
pretty
straightforward:
you're
going
to
build
a
fence,
six
foot
fence,
we
got
there
and
it's
a
six
foot
fence
good
job
in
larger
developments.
It
takes
a
little
bit
longer
to
check
everything.
That's
on
a
site
plan.
Did
you
put
in
your
stop
signs?
Did
you
put
in
all
the
lights
we're
out
there
counting
shrubs
if
you're
supposed
to
put
in
50
Arborvitae
we're
counting
50
arborvitae?
B
B
B
If
you
do
not,
then
you
forfeit
that
you
have
to
pay
an
extra
fine,
but
it
would
no
longer
be
valid.
People
generally
want
their
Co
for
their
financing,
usually
they're
Banks
or
their
lenders
will
require
that
you
also
need
it
if
you're
going
to
sell
your
house.
So
if
it's
somebody
just
doing
a
shed
and
you
didn't
get
it
and
you
sell
it
a
year
later,
we're
probably
going
to
write
in
there,
you
never
got
it.
It
was
never
approved.
B
Your
buyer
is
going
to
want
to
know
we
catch
a
lot
of
them.
That
way,
but
two
examples:
we've
seen
recently
one
I
know
many
communities
do
they
will
allow
landscaping
for
a
temporary
Co.
So
if
you
build
a
building-
and
it
is
entirely
ready
to
go
in
January
but
you're-
not
planting
trees
in
January
and
if
you
are
they're
not
going
to
survive,
so
we
don't
have
that
exemption
right
now,
and
so
anybody
who
finishes
their
construction
over
the
winter
is
not
able
to
occupy
a
structure.
B
We
have
a
new
building
in
town.
The
elevator,
like
many
things,
still
has
been
on
back
order
for
some
time
we
do
not,
or
in
some
cases
we
do
not
require
an
elevator
have
not
required
on
paper
the
elevator
to
be
installed
prior
to
occupancy
going
forward.
That's
something
we're
going
to
change
in
our
decisions,
because
it
is
so
critical
for
emergency
services.
B
When
such
a
thing
is
required.
The
question
is:
can
you
occupy
a
first
floor
that
doesn't
need
the
elevator
until
the
elevator
is
available?
This
is
kind
of
a
a
very
uncommon
thing
that
I
don't
see
happening
a
lot,
but
still
something.
That's
happened
now
twice
given
the
and
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
just
a
material
ordering
error.
A
B
It's
not
something
that's
an
issue
at
this
exact
moment,
because
the
decisions
for
those
buildings
did
not
require
that
the
elevator
be
in
Prior
occupancy,
but
we're
hoping
to
have
that
as
a
condition
later,
because
you
you
don't
want
a
four
or
five
story.
Building
with
your
emergency
services
having
to
carry
somebody
on
a
stretcher
down
five
flights
of
stairs
wouldn't.
E
D
C
E
B
B
For
those
who
are
self-financing,
probably
less
of
an
issue,
and
we
would
consider
other
things,
but
so
it's
an
area,
you
know
I
kind
of
want
to
explore.
I
haven't
I,
haven't
worked
a
lot
on
it
yet,
but
if,
if
line
striping
can
be
delayed
due
to
whether
I
would
think
at
least
Landscaping
is
in
the
worry.
B
We'll
bring
you
some
ideas:
there
parking
standards,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
too
much
here,
I
think
I've,
sort
of
foreshadowed,
it
quite
a
bit
to
you
in
the
last
year,
or
so
the
biggest
issue
that
I
see
with
the
parking
standards
right
now
is
that
there's
something
there's
a
there's
language
in
there
that
says
you
can't
have
more
than
110
percent
of
your
parking
in
a
large
lot.
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense
right.
You
don't
want
people
over
pray.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
shouldn't
say
that
retail
tends
to
overpark
they
like
to
have
empty
parking
spaces
because
they
don't
want
people
to
leave
because
they
see
that
their
lot
is
full,
so
retail
will
often
overpark
medical
office
in
my
experience
wants
more
than
the
recommended
guidelines,
but
it's
usually
because
they
need
them.
There's
a
lot
of
turnover
in
medical
offices
and
while
they
may
not
be
full
all
the
time
there's
people
constantly
going
in
and
out
residential
tends
to
park,
pretty
well
I.
B
B
B
B
I,
don't
recall
off
the
top
of
my
head,
the
real
problematic
ones
and
the
ones
that
we
hear
about
a
lot
that
tend
to
be
less
business
friendly
is
we're.
We're
buildings
are
very
flexible
buildings
and
they
turn
over
a
lot
because
you
could
go
from
a
restaurant
to
a
tax
office
to
a
daycare
and
the
parking
requirements
are
so
vastly
different,
but
the
site
is
there,
it's
been
built,
it
has
been
operating
and
it
becomes
a
real
challenge
for
somebody
who's.
Just
like
I'm.
Changing
from
this
to
this
or
even
the
real
challenges.
B
The
real
real
challenges
are
the
ones
that
are
not
based
on
a
square
footage.
So
if
a
hair
salon
with
three
stations
is
doing
very
well
and
becomes
a
hair
salon
with
six
stations,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
parking
requirements
double-
and
it's
really
hard
for
businesses
to
adjust
to
that,
because
not
only
they
have
to
have
this
extra
parking,
but
they
have
to
go
through.
They'd
find
an
engineer.
B
B
E
The
question
is
this:
like:
do
you
have
a
if
there's
already
existing
parking
and
somebody
moves
into
it
and
they're,
let's
just
say,
there's
20
spaces
that
are
associated
with
that
business?
What
do
you
do
when
it
changes
over
and
they're
not
allotted
that
amount?
You
tell
them
they
can't
park
there.
I.
B
Mean
I
just
don't
understand:
we've
seen
everything
from
people
having
to
physically
rip
it
up
to
taking
out
paint
and
making
sure
that
they
are
putting
enough
paint.
So
it
makes
it
clear
that
this
is
not
a
space
you
park
in
to
move
your
dumpsters
over
to
that
air.
It's
it's
a
very
difficult
conversation
to
have,
because
the
property
owners,
the
business
owner.
Look
at
you
like.
Are
you
crazy,
like
you're,
really
for
real,
and
we
have
to
say
yeah
for
real
we're?
B
B
Tackle
parking
and
there'll
be
more
than
that.
You
know
I
think
it's
it's
right,
sizing
those
numbers
too
they're
very
old.
They
might
be
out
of
date.
Retail
may
not
be
getting
the
same
parking
that
it
used
to
exactly
office
space,
not
getting
the
same
park
and
get
used
to
so
taking
a
fresh
look
at
at
maybe
better
right,
size
numbers.
B
B
Sign
standards,
I,
don't
have
any
specifics
to
bring
to
you.
I
just
know
that
it
has
been
on
the
list.
It
is
one
of
the
top
things
that
small
businesses
have
brought
to
our
Economic
Development
Office
I.
Don't
know
that
the
fine
details,
but
I
did
promise
I'd
at
least
start
to
put
something
together
where
there
are
some
concerns.
I
can't
really
articulate
them
to
you
at
the
moment,
but
it
is
the
number
one
thing
I
think
that
that
that
some
businesses
have
highlighted
as
a
concern
for
them.
B
B
It
was
about
a
four
month
process
just
to
get
approved
because
it
required
them
to
now
have
a
site
plan
to
amend
that
site
plan
to
go
through
the
development
review
board
to
go
through
conditional
use
criteria
which
are
defined
by
the
state.
It's
a
state
statute,
largely
and
by
and
large,
the
criteria
within
conditional
use
are
meant
for
things
that
could
very
easily
be
problematic
or
not,
depending
on
exactly
what
they
are
I.
Think
of
things
like
a
quarry
or
things
that
largely
can
have
known
detrimental
adverse
effects.
B
B
B
So
so
I
guess
I,
don't
have
them
yet,
but
I
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
table
and
see
if
there's
something
we
can
do
there.
The
the
other
thing
is
that
it's
not
really
clear
when
we
talk
about
a
conditional
use
in
our
regulations.
Are
we
talking
about
the
use
itself
or
the
use
with
its
detailed
components?
So,
for
example,
keep
going
back
to
this
daycare,
a
daycare
that
comes
in
and
says
and
where
conditional
use
in
that
District
we
have
22
children,
they
get
their
approval.
B
Yes,
you're
allowed
here
said
daycare
comes
back
later
and
says:
hey
we're
doing
great.
We
were
able
to
purchase
more
of
this
building
we're
going
to
be
100
in
this
building.
Now
we're
going
to
go
from
22
children
to
32
children
yay.
We
already
have
the
play
space
and
everything
I,
don't
really
need
a
permit,
do
I
and
we're
like
well.
Actually
your
conditional
use
your
conditional
use.
You
said
the
board
said
conditional
use
for
22.
B
Children
did
not
adversely
affect
these
things,
they
could
say
conditional
use
for
32
children
does
so
they
are
now
forced
to
go
back
through
this.
Lengthy
process,
so
it
might
be
beneficial
to
talk
about
whether
it's
the
use
itself,
that's
conditional
and
once
that
use
is
approved,
is
it
approved
as
a
use
or
is
it
that
use
and
it's
very
specific
components
that
go
with
it?
It's
not
really
clear,
but.
B
B
And
I'm
happy
to
bring
it
up
here
too.
Conditional
use
is
it's
section
8.10
in
our
regulations,
but
the
con.
The
criteria
that
we
apply,
whether
or
not
something
has
an
undue
adverse
effect
on
the
capacity
of
existing
or
planned
Community
facilities,
roads
highways,
water
sewer,
school
fire
protection.
B
B
Yes,
in
the
act
or
criteria,
you
followed
that
one
too
right,
yeah
yeah,
so
they
use
the
similar
criteria
in
act,
250
about
about
character,
and
that's
the
first
thing
that
people
who
don't
want
things
near
them
sight,
but
they
always
cite
it
wrong.
They
always
say
character
and
it's
not
character.
It's
planned
character.
B
Will
it
violate
in
a
municipal
bylaws.
We
need
the
drb
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
yeah
like
if
it.
If
it
does,
it
won't
be
approved.
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
a
drb
to
evaluate
that,
and
so
this
is
the
one
that
I
think
actually
is
helpful,
whether
largely
it's
about
performance
standards,
dust
fumes,
gas
smoke.
B
This
is
one
where
I
think
there
are
certain
uses.
That
could
you
know
maybe
an
auto
repair
business.
Couldn't
could
not
have
this
impact
because
maybe
they're
entirely
in
the
shop,
maybe
it's
new
technology.
Maybe
they
have
lots
of
space
around
them.
So
I
think
that
this
is
one
that
is
actually
very
good
for
for
a
board
to
figure
out
by
talking
to
an
applicant.
B
B
What
that
one's
about
that
one
might
have
been
specific.
So
that's
largely
what
conditional
use
is
it's
a
good
handy
tool,
but
it's
a
bit
overused
and
the
drb
had
identified
it
as
an
area
where,
like
they
feel
like
they're
rubbers
they're,
getting
applications
that
don't
really
need
to
come
to
them.
Just
because
somebody
wants
to
be
a
daycare
versus
a
general
office
or
they
want
to
be
there's
some
other
ones
in
there
that
are
really
benign.
B
B
B
We
wonder
if
they
really
just
shouldn't
have
been
conditional
in
the
first
place
we
either
say
Yep.
This
is
an
allowed
use
in
this
District
or
it's
not
it's
going
to
be
one.
That's
going
to
be
thick
to
walk
through,
and
maybe
it
doesn't
get
done
as
part
of
this
supplement.
Maybe
it
just
gets
sort
of
started,
but
but
I
think
it's
it's
worthy
of
of
taking
a
look
at.
B
Day,
yeah
I
think
that's
a
good
a
good
example,
because
traffic
in
general
is
usually
regulated
via
trip
ends
right.
It's
how
many
there
are,
but
a
conditional
use
criteria
allows
you
to
go
beyond
that
and
say
what
what
kind
of
traffic
is.
This
are
we
talking
about
very
large
vehicles
that
need
a
different
Road
layout,
for
example,
or
they're,
going
to
be
really
heavy
and
loud
or.
B
So
conditional
use
the
nice
thing
about
conditional
use.
Is
it
allows
you
to
attach
conditions
to
address
these
things
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to?
Otherwise
do
so,
if
you
do
have
say
a
manufacturing
facility
or
a
warehousing
facility,
you
could
say
conditional
use
under
this
criteria.
Yes,
you're
allowed
to
operate.
However,
no
delivery
should
be
made
after
10
pm.
No
backup
truck
backup
beepers
should
be
used
after
I.
B
To
an
adverse
a
fact
that
you
wouldn't
necessarily
be
able
to
do
otherwise,
I,
don't
know
what
sort
of
reasonable
condition
you
might
apply
to
a
daycare.
You
kids
can't
be
outside
more
than
an
hour
during
a
day
or
I,
don't
know,
but
there
are
other
things,
maybe
like
a
dog
or
animal
boarding
facility.
B
You
would
maybe
want
to
assign
some
conditions
of
you
know.
You
know.
Pets
can't
be
outside
unattended
or
you
know,
should
not
be
out
for
more
than
half
an
hour
at
a
time
after
X
time
at
night,
if
it's
right
next
to
a
a
residential
use,
for
example.
So
there
are,
there
are
definitely
good
uses
for
conditioning
use
I'm
not
trying
to
trash
it
as
a
tool,
it's
a
great
tool,
but
it
should
be
reserved
for
things
that
that
can
really
bring
adverse
effects.
B
B
A
C
B
B
D
B
C
D
D
B
B
B
E
C
E
B
Probably
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
bring
to
you
that
nine
feet
is
not
that
much
different
than
eight
feet
at
a
time.
They
don't
feel
terribly
tall.
This
one
might
be
10.
I'm,
not
sure,
but
it's
it's
only
marginally
taller
than
the
ones
above
it.
So
they
could
be.
This
particular
building
is
not,
but
the
idea
the
code
is
that
it's
Flex
space
and
I'll
show
you
a
good
example
of
that.
Actually,
in
a
minute
where
you
look
at
it
and
you're
like,
is
that
a
resonance
or
is
that
a
business?
B
A
D
I,
just
don't
I,
don't
know,
you
know,
I'd
love
to
see
an
example
of
New
England
design
so
but
I
like
it
I
mean
even
though
it's
supposed
to
be
I
like
it,
because
it
look
it's
industrial
to
me
and
kind
of
techy
and
modern
and
I
just
don't
like
the
white
I.
Don't
like
large
expanses
of
white
I
feel
like
that
really
kind
of
take.
You
know
pulls
my
eye
towards
that
and
it
doesn't
kind
of
blend
in.
But
that's
but
I
I
do
think
it's
kind
of
modern.
B
B
A
B
B
Some
things
that
I've
seen
in
some
codes
are
a
requirement
that
there
be
a
central
defining
feature
and
or
entryway,
whereas
this
has
sort
of
equal,
multiple
entrances
and
one
sort
of
semi-treated
entrance.
Some
codes
would
say
you
have
to
have
one
like
really
obvious:
dominant
either
feature
either
architectural
feature.
Maybe
it's
the
corner
of
the
building,
even
if
there's
no
entrance
there
or
you
would
have
to
have
some
really
obvious
Central
entrance
that
draws
people
in
so
I'm
curious.
What
you
think
of
that
I
think
it's!
If
that
were
the
code.
A
B
B
B
B
C
B
D
C
A
C
A
B
What's
interesting
to
me
is
that
they
that's
a
different
building,
ignore
that
one
for
a
second
here's
we're
starting
to
get
around
the
back,
ignore
that
one
they're
out
of
order
hang
on
I'll,
get
you
around
the
back
in
a
second
there's,
the
back.
It's
a
four-sided
design,
I!
Think
a
lot
of
buildings
were
where
such
is
not
required.
B
B
This
is
the
entrance
to
the
underground
parking
little
details
that
stood
out
to
me.
They're
they're,
fake
blocks,
they're,
obviously
not
all
the
way
through
it's
just
cement
with
a
treatment
on
the
end,
but
it's
kind
of
a
little
step
up
yeah.
It's
a
nice
detail
that
unit
mechanical
unit.
There
has
been
painted
to
match
the
building.
B
B
A
B
B
B
Back
and
looked
at
the
plan,
because
rich
is
always
asking
like
what:
how
do
we
not
catch
this
and
I?
Think
when
you
look
on
paper,
it
looks
like
there's
a
a
very
dramatic
difference.
It
looks
like
the
other
building.
We
have
a
solid
color
and
then
much
lighter
color
above
it.
In
effect,
that's
not
really
what
happened
so
the
color
difference
stood
out
to
you
guys.
Anything
else
stand
out
immediately
as
good
or
not
so
good.
Less.
A
B
E
B
C
B
B
D
C
B
B
A
B
A
B
B
They're
actually
quite
delicious,
those
told
me
that
yeah
you
have
a
chance
to
get
over
there.
You
can.
You
can
say
that
you're
out
there
for
a
site
visit
here,
so
these
spaces
on
the
first
floor,
ing
top
corners,
yeah
kind
of
just
before,
where
the
new
stuff
starts,
so
Geist
farm
and
yard
is
literally
across
the
street
from
this.
So
this
is
a
sort
of
where
it's
a
Zephyr
Road.
B
B
A
But
this
is
what
I
was
talking
about
when
you
showed
the
the
other
one
there
at
Severus
corner
store
it's
just
all
flat.
This
is
showing
how
the
first
floor
all
the
fenestration
and
everything
is.
It's
also
treated
differently
than
the
upper
floors,
where
the
other
one
was
just.
You
know
same
pattern
up
and
down
and
I
think
this
is
what
our
form
base
was
trying
to
achieve,
that
the
first
floor
would
be
more
welcoming
and
have
its
own
identity,
and
somehow
it
got
missed
in
that
one.
B
B
B
D
C
B
Go
at
the
road
right
right
down
here:
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
it
comes
in
yet,
but
you
know
the
other
thing
that
I
I
like
to
show
people
about
this.
Is
that
and
it'll
be
a
discussion
point
when
we
get
to
it?
Is
you
know
mixed
a
mix
of
housing
types,
the
current
regulations
say
encourage,
but
it's
not
required,
and
if
you
look
at
the
first
bit
of
severance
Corners,
Village
Center,
the
one
that's
mostly
built,
it's
all
the
same
housing
largely
and
that
you
have
these
large
buildings.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Quadrant
well,
they
could
definitely
build
right
now,
I
think
very
different
things
and
I
think
we're
seeing
that
the
plan
and
I
know
you
guys
asked
me
to
bring
it
to
you
and
I
I
will
at
the
next
meeting,
for
you
know,
Severance
park.
That's
that
Northeast
quadrant
currently
has
a
pretty
diverse
mix
of
housing,
sizes
and
styles.
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
D
D
E
I
like
how
there's
numerous
colors
like
there's
a
in
my
neighborhood,
they
when
they
built
all
the
new
houses,
there's
like
three
colors
and
they're,
all
like
a
shade
of
gray
or,
and
it
just
it's,
it's
boring
this
I,
like
the
red
I,
like
the
bright,
yellow,
I.
Think
it's
just
more
of
a
color
combination
really
makes
this
stand
out.
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
D
A
E
A
Maybe
on
the
sea
streets
you
don't
need
them,
I,
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
Define
that,
but
I
think
the
horizontal
line
may
have
been
introduced
when
you
want
to
try
to
have
like
mixed
use,
retail
and
housing
you
want
to
differentiating
between
the
two,
but
maybe
on
the
C
streets,
where
it's
all
housing.
That
item
doesn't
need
to
be
there.
I.
D
B
C
C
C
D
D
A
B
C
B
C
B
Some
sort
this
one
happens
to
also
be
the
entrance
to
the
building
I
think
this
building
looks
very
different
if
it's
just
a
single
entry
door
with
no
pronouncement
of
any
sort
and
it's
in
the
red,
and
it's
like
a
just
a
slider
or
something
I,
think
that
it
looks
very
different.
This
is
very
pronounced
here:
yep,
the
porches
that
guy's
even
got
a.
B
B
I,
get
back
to
like
I
was
just
trying
to
show
you
like
a
lot
of
people
skip
over
when
they're.
You
know,
you
see
one
two,
three
12
30
40.
and
there's
a
big
gap.
Often
in
sort
of
this
midsize
there's
a
hole
like
a
bit
of
planning
out
there.
That
looks
at
like
how
do
you
make
a
four
or
six
unit?
Building,
look
like
a
single
family.
B
Stapleton
Colorado
used
to
be
an
airport,
so
it
presented
a
really
cool
opportunity
to
like
build
a
whole
town
of
sorts.
There's
a
lot
of
vacant
land
that
got
to
be
reused
and
they
sort
of
master
planned.
It
and
I
not
familiar
enough
with
it
to
find
the
good
examples,
but
they
have
every
building
size.
You
could
imagine
and
they
do
some
super
cool
things.
B
The
best
example
that's
a
horrible
example,
but
they
have
a
whole
section
of
the
town
where
they
have
what
kind
of
looks
like
I,
don't
call
them
mini
Mansions,
but
they
kind
of
look
like
houses
that
you'd
see
in
some
parts
of
the
county
here,
but
there's
six
and
eight
units
in
them,
but
they
look
like
a
single
family
interesting
this.
This
whole
neighborhood's
a
bit
too
big
for
me
to
find
quickly,
but.
B
C
B
B
B
You
know
so
the
fascinating,
oh
wait,
look
I
got
I
was
able
to
get
down
the
street.
They
did
not
in
Williston
at
the
time
that
this
was
adopted.
They
do
now,
which
is
funny,
but
they
did
not
at
the
time
this
was
built.
So
here's
a
this
is
like
sort
of
that
middle
size.
That
I
was
talking
about
I.
Believe
there's
eight
units
in
here
you
know
when
we
talk
about
ways
to
improve
things.
B
I
personally
would
have
liked
to
see
a
few
more
of
these
have
like
an
entrance
at
the
street,
but
it's
sort
of
it's
It's.
You
see
the
the
color
breakups
right,
even
in
a
two-story
build
or
two
and
a
half
story
building
I!
Guess
you
see
that
that
vertical
separation
you
see
the
either
the
materials
or
the
color
or
the
doorways
or
the
balconies?
Something
is
happening
well.
This
building
gets
a
lot
of
attention.
B
B
D
D
A
B
D
B
A
Is
I,
don't
think
you
need
it,
but
okay,
I
think
for
the
buildings
that
we
see
as
being
mixed
use
or
potentially
having
excuse
I.
Think
it's
important,
but
I,
don't
know
whether
the
horizontal
band
is
the
way
to
do
it
or
there's
other
ways
to
do
it.
That
vertical
cut-ups,
like
loud
I,
think
there's
other
ways
of
saying
this.
This
is,
could
be
more
retail
than
just
putting
a
horizontal
band.
A
C
D
B
D
D
B
A
C
B
A
B
B
B
E
B
B
D
C
A
E
B
B
So
we'll
talk
about
that
I
think.
Another
thing:
that's
sort
of
missing
from
our
code
is
not
just
looking
at
the
building
but
part
of
the
buildings,
all
work
together
on
a
site
you
can
have
gorgeous
buildings,
but
if
all
you
do
is
plop
them
down
with
no
relationship
to
each
other
yeah
still
not
a
nice
place.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
other
place,
making
elements.
D
B
B
A
A
B
B
B
B
So
memo
to
the
select
board,
you
saw
we're
getting
the
capital
budget
plan
Energy
Efficiency
projects.
As
a
reminder,
you
are
the
energy
committee,
there's
no
action
here.
If
there
was,
you
would
have
to
close
your
meeting
as
a
Planning
Commission
become
me
no,
but
you
don't
have
to
there's
no
action
here.
It's
just
respecting
your
role
as
the
energy
committee.
Here's
a
memo
talking
about
Capital
plans.
You'll
get
this!
You
get
one
of
these
every
year,
purely
informational,
okay,
any.
D
B
I'll
have
them
come
to
a
meeting
or
two
some
of
the
special
projects
I'm
hoping
they'll
work
on
will
include
maybe
some
of
the
open
space
stuff,
some
of
the
parking
updates,
their
interests
and
skills
vary
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
what
their
backgrounds
are,
but
we're
hoping
to
take
advantage
of
that
and
plug
them
in
where
they
have
the
most
amount
of
in
instant
experience.
It'll
be
very
helpful
for
our
office,
so
they'll
start
early
June.
B
B
B
B
B
Up
sort
of
on
the
Milton
side
of
town
off
of
that
root
root:
two
and
seven
there
are
just
two
up
near
Jasper
minus
area
yeah
on
the
cut
Bay
sort
of
up
there,
so
he's
got
a
request
in
that
we'll
bring
to
you
I.
Think
we'll
probably
touch
a
little
bit
like
we
did
on
some
of
the
kind
of
a
repeat
of
tonight
in
terms
of
like
here's,
some
items,
let's
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
depends
on
how
much
I
can
prep
before
that.
B
B
B
And
the
next
week,
obviously,
is
the
night
of
a
select
board
meeting
if
you
were
to
stick
with
Tuesdays,
and
so
that's
how
we
ended
up
on
the
18th
foreign
and
then
August
1st,
and
then
the
15th
we
would
hold
might
be
really
getting
into
the
flow
of
form-based
code
stuff
by
then.
So
I
will
just
want
to
hold
it
in
case.