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Town Meeting Charter Amendments 00:16:43
Essex Rescue Letter 01:23:12
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FY24 General Fund Work 02:34:44
Public Hearing Warnings - FY23 Budget/5 Year Plan 02:36:53
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B
B
Agenda
changes
from
staff.
Any
agenda
changes
requested
from
the
board
members.
Okay,
then
we
will
move
on
to
public.
To
be
heard.
Public
to
be
heard
is
the
time
of
the
agenda
when
attendees
can
address
the
select
board
on
Town
business
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
during
public
to
be
heard,
you
can
either
raise
your
hand
in
the
in
the
room
or
using
the
razor
hand,
function
in
the
zoom
meeting
room
to
find
the
button.
B
E
E
I
wrote
what
I
thought
was
a
really
nice
composition
for
them
to
put
on
front
porch
form
because
it
had
to
do
with
helping
citizens
like
myself,
understand,
what's
happening
politically,
and
this
had
to
do
with
our
little
group
that
we
call
polytalk,
which
is
open
to
anyone,
and
we
always
treat
people
respectfully
and
it's
been
a
great
place
where
we
can
talk
to
one
another
about
issues
that
come
on
and
learn
about
what?
What
does
this
mean?
E
What
has
anybody
heard
about
this
and
we
don't
all
agree,
and
so,
if
anyone's
invited
and
I
feel
it's
a
safe
place.
So
I
wrote
this
this
letter
to
front
porch
Forum,
saying
that
you
know
inviting
people
to
join
polytalk,
I
included
in
it
that
we
decided
that
to
further
help
people
we
would
make
a
Facebook
page
kind
of
like
our
Essex
page,
where
people
can
write
in
and
ask
questions
or
you
know,
say
who's
in
trouble,
whatever
excuse
me
and
and
say,
there's
going
to
be
a
Facebook
page.
E
So
if
you
can't
go
to
a
meeting
or
don't
want
to
come,
you
could
maybe
type
in
a
question
and
we
would
try
to
have
somebody
answer
just
communication.
That's
all
it
is
so
the
answer
that
I
got
back
from
them
was
thanks
for
your
participation
in
the
local
front,
porch
Forum
in
general.
We
do
not
welcome
efforts
to
steer
front
page
four
front
page
for
members
away
from
from
page
form
toward
competing
local
Facebook
groups,
so
you're
posting
below
will
not
be
published.
Please
consider
using
front
page
search
form
for
your
discussions.
E
E
What's
going
on
in
town
is
not
maybe
the
best
and
then
I've
gotten
some
other
information
from
others
that
at
least
three
members
of
our
community
have
been
banned,
probably
more,
and
so,
if
even
one
member
of
the
community
is
actively
extruded
excluded
from
receiving
notices,
how
can
the
town
support
it
and
what
they've
done
at
least
for
the
one
person
I
know
it's
been
nothing
egregious.
It's
just
been
that
there
was
one
little
rule
that
was
broken
and
most
of
us
are
forgiven.
E
For
those
there's
arbitrary
censorship,
they
will
decide
what
can
be
discussed
and
what
can't
I've
had
other
things
turned
away
before
and
I
can't
remember
why.
It
just
didn't
think
that
it
was,
you
know,
appropriate
and
not
that
it
wasn't
appropriate
I,
don't
think
I'm
ever
inappropriate,
but
they
just
they
make
it
up
to
them.
E
That
decides
who
will
be
heard
and
who
won't
be
heard
and
I
do
believe,
in
my
opinion,
that
in
the
past
and
I
really
hope
that
this
is
all
over
I
think
that
it
is
I'm
optimistic
because,
if
you're
on
a
select
forward
and
in
the
past,
if
you
were
on
the
trust,
well,
even
the
trustees,
then
a
member.
That's
on
you
know
like
a
select
board
member.
They
can
put
a
posting
on
any
of
the
front
porch
forum
sites
as
a
citizen.
You
cannot
so
in
the
past.
E
G
It's
less
than
three
thousand
dollars:
yeah,
yes
and
it's.
It
is
one
of
the
the.
If
we
survey
people
every
now
and
then
hear
about
how
they
hear
about
things
that
front
porch
forum
is
one
of
the
leading
sources
of
people
getting
information
from
us.
We
try
to
do
Facebook.
We
try
to
do
the
website.
We
try
to
do
newspapers,
but
it
is
one
of.
I
Sandhill
Park
is
dark,
dark
so
much
of
the
year
and
to
see
that
bit
of
festive
brightness
was
really
inspiring
and
heartwarming
and
I
don't
know
who's
responsible
for
that,
but
I
certainly
hope
Greg.
You
would
communicate
that
to
them.
If
that
was
your
brilliant
idea,
I
congratulate
you.
Okay!
Well,
yeah!
You
can
bank
that
congratulations
for
something
in
the
future,
then,
but
it
was
really
lovely
and
I
wanted
to
get
that
across
to
the
staff
and
I'll
keep
quiet
now.
I
J
J
So
you
are,
you
have
access
to
all
five
of
the
forums
and
you
don't
have
to
pay
anything
to
put
your
the
town
is
paying,
but
the
individual
person
doesn't
have
to
put
anything
down
and
I
think
that
that
is
unfair.
Advantage
I
think
you're
going
to
be
running
for
something
you
have
to
have
the
same
limitations
that
the
person
who,
if
I,
was
going
to
run,
but
if
I
was
going
to
run
then
I
could
post.
J
B
I'm
not
sure
that's
correct,
though
Betsy,
because
when
I've,
when
I,
when
I
have
run
and
use
front,
porch
form
for
advertising
front
porch
form
is
very
upfront
and
insistent
that
I
pay
for
the
that
those
postings
be
paid
for,
and
I
pay
by
the
inbox
I
can
actually
pick
you
can
pick
which
neighborhoods
exactly
you
go
to
and
you
do
have
to
pay
for.
Well.
K
K
What
I
want
to
say
is
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
I'm
I'm
glad
that
the
select
board
we're
putting
our
heads
together
I
want
us
to
figure
out
somehow
to
get
to
encourage
people
to
not
only
post
on
front
porch
Forum
or
come
to
the
pulley
talk
meetings,
but
not
be
shy
to
come
to
your
select
board
meetings
to
to
talk
about.
You
know
what
they
want
for
services
in
Essex,
what
they
want
for.
K
K
But
even
if
you
have
a
concern,
everybody
should
have
received
a
postcard
if
there's
for
two
weeks
in
January
and
Betsy
can
even
speak
to
you
more
on
this
or
can
or
anybody
if
we
can
just
get
people
to
to
come
and
you're
not
going
to
be
judged.
You
are
just
welcome
to
come
and
share
what
you
want
to
see
for
our
new
town
of
Essex
now
that
we're
all
by
ourselves.
Thank
you.
M
Yeah
hi
guys
it's
Megan
Humphreys
joining
I
can
provide
some
clarity
in
the
front.
Porch
Forum,
the
town
has
the
I
work
in
Communications.
The
town
has
the
ability
to
post
across
multiple
boards,
because
it's
considered
sort
of
Municipal
news
and
you
can-
you-
can
update
everyone
I
think
the
difference
is
as
a
person
you
Andy
can't
post
across
without
paying
for
it
and
paying
for
the
advertising,
so
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
nuance
in
there.
That
makes
the
rules
different
for
different
different
circumstances.
M
M
Have
there
been
any
thoughts
to
the
actual
impact
of
that
increase
either
from
our
you
know,
fixed
income
residents
or
lower
income
residents?
Has
there
been
any
feedback
about
that
increase
and
any
potential
financial
support
for
those
residents
that
cannot
afford
a
22
plus
property
tax
increase
thanks
for
considering
that.
B
B
Yep
yep,
you
know
we
certainly
get
that
and
are
very
concerned
about
that.
But
I
don't
know
that
we
have
any
any
mechanism
for
including
an
income
sensitive
component
to
our
own
tax,
to
our
tax
rate
and
I
guess.
With
regard
to
the
front
porch
Forum,
your
comments,
there's
select
board
members
are
allowed
to
make
two
postings
a
month
to
all
forums.
If
you're,
if
you
you
have,
you
essentially
have
two
accounts.
B
If
you're
a
select
board
member
one
as
a
select
board
member
one
as
an
individual,
you
may
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
the
individual
one,
but
I
do
I.
Have
both
you
can
post
twice
a
month
found
business
twice
a
month
and
you
can
do
personal
ones
as
many
times
as
as
you'd
like
as
long
as
it
passes.
The
other
rules
that
that
front,
porch,
Forum
has
and
I
guess
as
it
as
a
candidate
as
I've
been
a
candidate
in
the
past,
unfort
Farm
was
very
clear.
They
read
everything
before
they
post
it.
B
N
B
H
G
G
H
G
Was
in
section
117
701
the
charter
referenced
entities
that
don't
exist
anymore:
the
Essex
town,
School
District,
the
village
of
Essex
Junction
School
District,
since
those
have
Consolidated
the
town
attorney
recommended
deleting
those
sections.
Apart
from
that,
it's
just
the
reorganization,
as
recommended
by
the
charter,
Review
Committee,.
B
L
I
Yep
hi
Bruce
post
one
Cindy
Lane
I,
was
a
member
of
the
charter
committee
and
one
of
the
things
we
did
want
to
do
is
try
to
have
better
flow,
so
I
think
you
may
have
achieved
that.
I
do
have
a
question
on
one
particular
section:
it's
on
the
screen
right
now:
117
703
budget
page-
and
it
says
an
annual
budget
shall
be
adopted
at
town
meeting
by
the
vote
of
the
majority
of
those
eligible
to
vote
present
at
the
meeting.
I
B
I
B
I
have
proposed
to
to
Greg
that
we
put
Charter
review
on
as
a
standing
agenda
item,
or
at
least
have
at
least
once
a
month
going
forward
after
town
meeting
to
review
that
link
those
other
language
change
proposals
that
came
from
the
charter
committee,
so
that
we're
moving
toward
you
know
potentially
having
another
update
next
year.
That
has
some
that
clarifying
language
included,
so
that
thought
that
you've
just
raised
may
come
up,
came
up,
come
up
again
and
be
and
be
make
sense
to
address.
Okay.
B
Q
Take
a
little
card
that
says:
Don't
touch
the
microphone
right
here.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
so
I
I
went
on
the
website
and
I
have
to
admit
I'm
having
computer
difficulties
right
now
and
but
any
in
any
case,
when
I
opened
the
packet
to
read
through
the
the
charter
Amendment
and
saw
the
page
with
all
the
underlining
and
the
strikethrough
and
I
was
on
the
charter
committee
and
I
had
no
idea
what
it
said
or
where
things
moved
or
what
was
going
on
and
I
was
extremely
frustrated.
Q
So,
if
I
felt
that
way,
I
can
imagine
anybody
who
wasn't
there
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
was.
There
was
no
key.
That
said
these
are
strikethroughs,
because
these
are
underlined
because
this
got
moved
here.
This
got
renumbered
there.
There
was
no
guidance
on
how
to
read
that
and
it
just
it.
Just
looked
like
a
horrible
mess
to
me
so.
B
B
R
R
B
B
H
G
R
Okay,
cool
and-
and
that's
obviously
legal
has
gone
through
that,
and
it's
just
too
bad
that
that
part
isn't
included
in
that
ballot.
The
part
that
you
have
on
the
screen
right
now,
because
there
was
another
reference
I
saw
it
just
saying
that
it
was
still
open
somewhere
that
kind
of
references
back
to
it.
But
it's
just
not
clear
from
that.
One
particular
section
we're.
B
R
Let's
go
down
to
go
back
to
what
Margaret's
saying
then,
this
part
of
the
discussion
you
guys,
are
breaking
the
discussion
down
into
the
different
components.
This
part
is
just
about
reorganizing
in
a
more
readable
way
and
just
that
one
change
that
I
saw
that
you
referred
to
in
there.
That
was
noted
on
the
side.
Okay
and.
B
S
B
B
J
K
K
B
G
G
We
had
talked
about
putting
in
another
section
another
item
in
there
that
would
allow
the
clerk's
office
to
collect
fees
for
catering
licenses.
Liquor
licenses
doing
some
more
research
into
that,
not
really
sure.
If
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
charter,
we
think
it
might
be
able
to
be
done
by
ordinance
and
if
not
it's
something
that
we
think
we
can
take
up
over
the
next
year
and
do
some
more
research,
Bring,
It
Forward
as
another
round
of
Charter
amendments.
G
B
G
B
G
Is
about
just
cause
eviction
and
an
ordinance
allowing
the
town
of
Essex
to
pass
an
ordinance
against
just
cause
eviction.
This
one
has
been
stripped
down
quite
a
bit
from
what
was
proposed
by
the
charter.
Review
Committee,
the
select
board
talked
about
wanting
to
simplify
things
not
being
too
prescriptive
in
the
language
of
the
charter,
taking
that
stuff
up
in
an
actual
ordinance.
If
we
get
to
that
case,
you
talked
about
doing
kind
of
a
skeleton
structure.
G
Originally
was
thinking
about.
Do
we
keep
in
you
know
what
just
cause
eviction
is.
There
are
some
definitions
in
the
previous
iteration
talking
to
the
town
attorney.
We
recommend
just
keeping
that
very
simple
language,
about
the
possibility
of
passing
of
Just
Cause
eviction
ordinance,
my
understanding
of
or
my
take
away
from
the
conversation
about
the
skeleton
language
was
to
help
people
understand
what
this
is.
C
I
guess
it's
I'm
afraid
that
that
might
be
a
little
bit
of
a
double-edged
sword
where,
with
the
legislature,
be
more
If
This
Were
to
pass
in
March.
Would
the
legislature
be
more
inclined
to
take
this
up
and
approve
if
it
contained
that
skeleton
language,
or
it
was
just
a
completely
blank
slate
I,
don't
know
what.
N
O
D
A
O
That
was
one
of
the
biggest
things
I
was
concerned
about
and
I
agree
with
the
ordinance,
because
then
we
can
make
it
specific
to
Essex
once
it
can
be
backed
at
a
state
level.
You
know
we
don't
have
to
include
everything
we
don't
and
we
can
include
more,
maybe
or
you
know
whatever
we
decide,
but
that's
it's
important
and
I'm
glad
to
see
it
in
here.
So.
T
C
B
C
G
I
read
this
as
the
the
select
board
shall
name
a
successor
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
the
charter,
okay
and
that's
where
it
says
that
you'll
she'll
do
it
this
way,
if
you
can't
reach
a
agreement,
that's
when
it
has
a
special
election.
So
I
read
this
as
referencing
that
you
shall
go
to
that
section
of
the
charter
making.
O
I
just
had
a
clarification
question
about
Item
B,
where
it
says
within
60
days
of
receiving
a
ballot
petition.
The
select
word
shall
call
a
special
meeting.
Is
that
within
60
days,
or
is
that
do
they
have
to
call
a
meeting
within
60
days
and
then
how
far?
How
long
do
you
have
to
call
the
meeting?
Is
it
the
regular.
O
B
B
V
V
V
B
V
Okay,
so
let's
take
a
look
at
section,
D
again:
okay,
so
in
that
first
part
you're
talking
about
registered
voters
that
voted,
they
are
active
voters
active,
registered
voters.
In
the
second
part,
it
says
at
least
one-third
of
the
registered
voters
of
the
Town
vote.
Whichever
is
greater
so
you're
talking
about
two
different
things
in
the
first
part,
you're
talking
about
active
registered
voters
in
the
second
part
you're
talking
about
registered
voters,
which
is
the
total
number
on
the
voter
checklist,
but.
B
V
B
V
B
T
O
Ethan
can
I
just
bring
a
point
of
clarification
because
I
I
also
read
through
this,
and
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
but
I
I
read
it
and
understood
as
it's
written.
It
does
say
at
least
as
many
registered
voters
of
the
Town
vote
as
voted
in
the
election
when
the
officer
was
elected.
At
that
point,
it
doesn't
matter
if
the
same
registered
voters
vote
in
that
election.
It
just
matters
at
the
same
amount
or
at
least
one
third
of
the
registered
voters
come
and
vote
again.
O
So
you
know
you
could
have
700
voters
not
vote
that
voted
in
the
original
election
and
you
could
have
700
challenge.
Voters
come
and
vote
with
an
expedition
as
long
as
it
equates
to
the
amount
as
the
original
election
or
one-third.
Whichever
is
greater
and
it's
it's
a
valid
vote
because
I
read
through
it
a
couple
times
and
just
wanted
to
help
anybody
I
hope
it.
But
if
not
all.
B
G
Move
on
last,
article
for
consideration
is
to
allow
for
the
possibility
to
move
to
a
development
review
board
once
again
vastly
simplified
language
from
what
was
proposed,
nothing
against
what
was
proposed,
but
just
trying
to
keep
it
simple.
The
town
attorney
thinks
the
simplest
option
is
to
just
take
the
existing
language
of
the
select
board,
she'll,
appoint
members
of
the
following
permanent
commissions
and
positions,
and
next
to
Zoning,
Board
of
adjustment,
add
or
development
review
board
for
State
Statute.
G
There
can
either
be
a
zoning
board
or
development
review
board,
but
not
both,
so
this
would
allow
the
select
board
to
appoint
one
or
the
other
and
then
also
below
that
in
the
existing
language.
The
the
charter
talks
about
establishing
a
Planning
Commission.
The
town
attorney
thought
that
that
language
was
Superfluous
and
could
be
removed
so
recommending
that
come
out
as
well.
L
D
O
N
L
L
B
L
L
Passed
by
the
legislature,
and
then
from
that
date,
when
it
passes
that
was
the
intent
of
the
re
of
the
board,
is
that
they
would
have
one
year
from
the
date
today
passes,
because
we
have
no
idea.
You
know
when
it
will
pass
the
legislature
yeah
and
we
don't
even
know
if
it
will
pass.
But
that's
why
we
we're
giving
them
the
one
year
from
date
of
Passage
and
that's
why
we
did
it
that
way
and
that's
why
we
wanted
the
development
review
board
established
that
one.
G
I
think
so,
I
I
I
think
the
reason
that
staff
was
looking
to
not
put
a
date
on
it
was
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
that
conversation
publicly
about
what
the
transition
looks
like
how
it's
going
to
get
there.
It
has
come
up
in
the
past
and
it's
been
pushed
aside
in
the
past.
I
would
argue
it's
been
for
valid
reasons.
G
If
the
select
board
makes
it
a
priority
that
you
want
to
do
it
within
a
year
of
Passage,
we'll
do
it.
You
hold
us
to
that.
You
hold
yourselves
to
that
I
think
by
putting
a
date
in
there,
it
does
give
you
more
certainty.
It
also
takes
away
any
flexibility.
If
other
or
pressing
concern
to
priorities
come
up,
so
I
could
I
could
see
either
way.
G
I
think
a
year
is
probably
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
have
those
conversations.
Instead
of
transition
period
up
again,
that's
me
speaking:
that's
not
input
from
the
Planning
Commission,
the
zoning
board,
com,
Dev
staff
and
not
knowing
what
other
things
might
come
up
in
the
course
of
a
year
we've
had
merger
we've
had
separation,
we've
had
school
districts,
merge,
we've
had
all
kinds
of
different
things
that
we
haven't
planned
for,
come.
L
B
A
L
O
Sure
I
just
think
that
you'd
have
to
remove
the
zba
in
section.
A1
we'd
have
to
change
the
wording
to
say
CBA
adjusts
to
development
review
board
and
if
you
want
to
put
the
date
in
that
section
and
put
it
in
that
section
or
if
you
want
to
drop
it
down,
as
as
you
know,
I
would
bump
B
and
C
down
to
c
and
d
and
put
it
in
a
section
B
that
the
development
review
board
would
be
implemented
within
one
year
of.
O
Board
yeah
that
way
to
transition,
because
we
still
need
the
zoning
board
as
we
are,
and
then
that
gives
us
the
year
to
transition
from
the
zba
to
if
they
pass
it,
and
we
just
have
the
drb
in
there
and
I.
Don't
know
how
that
would
read
to
them.
But
I
would
think
that
we
would
be
held
responsible
to.
A
B
H
G
With
the
caveat,
if
you
have
two
public
hearings
and
you
can
change
the
language
after
the
public
hearings,
so
you
could
either
make
some
amended
language
tonight.
If
that's
the
path
you
choose
and
then
have
the
town
attorney
review
it
and
potentially
change
it
again
or
leave
it
at
it,
leave
it
as
is
have
it
down
to
you
turn
it
yeah.
Sorry
I
can't
speak
of
the
Town
attorney
review.
It
provide
language
for
you
to
approve
after
the
second
public
hearing
that
would
allow
for
a
transition
period.
B
G
So
the
charter
Review
Committee
had
proposed
that
select
board
should
appoint
members
of
the
following
permanent
missions
and
positions.
A
development
review
board
will
replace
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
on
or
before
July
1st
2024
members
shall
be
appointed
on
or
before,
but
no
later
than
July.
1St
2024
and
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
will
be
replaced
by
development
review
board
on
or
before,
but
not
later
than
July
1st
2024..
D
O
O
C
T
C
B
G
A
O
O
B
A
O
It's
section
117,
206
appointment
by
slackboard,
reads
section:
a
select
word
shall
appoint
the
members
of
the
following
permanent
commissions
and
positions
item.
One
development
review
board
parentheses
will
replace
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment,
The
Adjustment,
Administration
adjustment
right,
yes,
adjustment
within
a
year
from
passage
of
the
Vermont
legislator.
O
Item
two
says:
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
parentheses
will
be
replaced
by
the
development
review
board
within
a
year
from
passage
of
the
remote
legislator.
Section
three
says
the
Planning
Commission
Section
four
is
the
town
attorney.
Five
is
the
town
manager
and
that
goes
on
to
be
Blackboard
May,
appoint
such
traditional
commissions
and
committees,
as
they
feel
to
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
town
and
all
other
appointed
or
elective
officers
authorized
by
Statue
and
then
see
the
terms
of
all
appointment
show
commence
on
the
day
after
the
day
of
appointment.
O
B
So
I
heard
Greg
asked
for
a
second
year.
Is
it
Con?
You
know
in
case
it
can't
be
done
in
a
year
with
the
you
know,
the
provision
of
course
that
again
the
select
board
can
say
we
know
we
gave
you
two
years,
but
we
want
you
to
do
it
one
you
is
there
any
consideration
of
moving
that
date
within
two
years
rather
than
within
within
one
year.
L
I'm,
just
looking
around
government
takes
a
long
time.
I
understand
that
Andy.
But
how
long
have
we
been
talking
about
before
I
even
ran
for
select
board
people
were
discussing
a
development
review
board
and
and
other
things
that
we've
we've
we've
just
we
keep
pushing
off
and
pushing
off
and
that
my
fear
is
so.
If
I
give
you
two
years,
you
know
if
I
cave
the
two
years
and
you
come
back
to
whoever
comes
back
to
his
life
boys
that,
were
you
know
in
two
years
we're
not
ready.
L
L
G
Okay
and
if
that's
the
choice,
we'll
we'll
do
everything
we
can
and
we'll
make
it
happen,
I
do
ask
that
you
take
into
consideration
other
existing
work
and
workload,
but
this
is
primarily
going
to
be
a
community
development
project
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
zoning
board.
They
have
a
town,
Plan
update.
That's
due
a
year
from
now
in
2024.
G
G
They
can
probably
work
concurrently
on
some
of
these
things,
but
if
they
can't
for
other
reason,
a
town
plan
is
going
to
take
priority,
because
that
is
also
the
law
that
has
to
be
updated
by
2024
March
2024.,
depending
on
how
much
time
they
have
with
other
stuff.
That
leaves
four
months
to
do
a
transition
period.
C
U
B
B
I
Yeah
well,
first
of
all,
before
we
talk
about
a
date
and
I
did
craft
the
date
language
as
part
of
the
commission
yeah.
If
you
have
an
option
between
a
zoning,
Board
of
adjustment
or
a
development
review
board,
neither
one
is
a
permanent
Commission,
because
Tracy
pointed
out
a
select
board
could
say:
we've
had
enough
of
the
zba,
let's
go
to
a
drb
and
then
a
year
or
two
later,
the
composition
can
change.
I
And
oh,
let's
go
back
to
a
zba,
so
I
think
you
have
to
fish
or
cut
bait
and
make
up
your
mind
quite
frankly,
and
I
would
support
a
drb.
Secondly,
if
this
passes,
we're
gonna
have
a
vote
in
March,
I
would
presume,
and
if
this
passes
that's
a
pretty
good
indication
that
you're
going
to
be
going
to
a
drb
and
you
can
start
planning
for
that.
I
This
is
not
a
shot
to
the
moon
and
it's
been
done
on
other
communities
around
us,
smaller
communities
and-
and
you
have
a
time
to
start
thinking
about
this
and
I-
would
imagine
that
our
Charter
change
is
not
going
to
be
a
particularly
controversial.
Charter
change
and
I
would
bet
it
would
pass
the
legislature,
and
so
you
have
a
reasonable
confidence
if
you
pass
a
drb
in
March
as
a
vote
here,
you
have
time
to
start
thinking
through
these
things
and
Ethan's
got
a
compromise
for
the
end
of
2024.
I
I.
Think
that's,
that's
fine,
but
you
also
have
to
make
up
your
mind.
I
think
you're
going
in
that
direction.
I
commend
you
if
you
support
a
drb
and
not
make
it
optional,
because
that
is
dodging
the
question
and
it's
gonna
you're
gonna
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
and
you're
you're
not
going
to
have
potentially
any
stability,
so
I
support
the
drb
I.
I
Don't
think
the
option
is
good
policy
making
or
even
good
for
the
future
of
a
zba
or
a
drb
or
the
Planning
Commission,
because
they
would
be
affected
by
that
instability.
So
thank
you
and
I
said:
I
did
put
a
date
in
there
and
we
did
adopt
a
date
because
there's
been
pushback
to
this
idea,
starting
when
I
was
on
the
board
in
2009
Pat,
scheidel
and
Linda
Myers.
Just
this
was
like
a
third
rail.
I
J
Pepsi
done
so,
the
language
you
have
with
the
Year
from
the
legislature
approving
the
charter
change
works
both
ways
because
they
may
not
take
it
up
this
this
by
any
this
first
year
of
the
biennium
right,
and
if
so,
they
you
would
have
until
the
25
that
you
would
end
up
having
the
year
from
when
they
did
it.
So
I
like
the
one
year
from
legislature,
approval
of
the
charter
that
it
has
to
be
in
place
and
I
do
think
it
has
to
be
in
place.
J
In
fact,
but
I
do
think
that
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
that,
have
it
done
and
you
bring
up
the
town
plan.
Well,
you
know
that
law
was
passed
to
have
this
new
town
plan
back
in
2016.,
so
they've
had
a
lot
of
time
to
kind
of
get
themselves
ready
and
geared
up
for
this
whole
new
town
plan.
It's
not
in
this
last
year
that
they
should
be
looking
at
that.
J
W
As
you
said,
one
thing
you
need
to
remember
is
that
when
you
Institute
a
drb,
the
Planning
Commission
is
relieved
of
a
lot
of
work
development
process.
The
review
process
that
they
do
now
they
will
no
longer
have
to
do.
That
means
that
if
they're
working
on
the
town
plan
they'll
only
have
to
work
on
the
town
plan,
they
won't
be
having
to
do
development
review
at
that
point.
W
N
E
I
wasn't
going
to
say
anymore,
but
I
have
to
say
thank
you
to
Don
for
bringing
up
the
fact
that
we
keep
kicking
things
down
the
can
the
can
down.
It
seems
like
it's
true
for
all
the
years
that
I've
been
involved
in
going
to
meetings
I,
you
know,
I
can
come
back
to
the
next
one
and
list
all
the
things
that
we've
talked
about,
that
have
not
been
done
and
there's
always
an
excuse
for
it
or
it
disappears.
Memorial
Hall
was
only
last
year
we
were
talking
about
Memorial,
Hall
and
nothing's
happened.
E
A
bunch
of
us
went
and
signed
up
to
be
on
a
board,
but
it's
like
it
doesn't
exist
anymore.
There's
never
communication
to
tell
us
what's
happening,
and
it's
not
just
Memorial
Hall.
It's
also
wanting
to
I'm
a
little
ticked
off
with
this
committee,
because
you
know
the
charter
committee,
because
they
let
go
the
idea
of
District
representation
way
back
for
years.
People
have
wanted
District,
rep
I
took
part
in
all
these
meetings
where
we
said
this
is
what
we
wanted
and
then
now
people
are
saying.
Well,
no,
we
never
wanted.
E
K
I
think
this
is
the
best
select
board
meeting
where
public
participation
and
people
are
speaking
up.
This
is
what
this
town
needs
and
my
only
tidbit
is
get
everybody.
All
stakeholders
involved
get
everybody
at
the
table
and
have
everybody
in
the
audience
attend.
So
all
these
again
I'm
gonna,
say
all
these
meetings
that
are
coming
up
in
January
for
anybody
to
come.
You
need
to
be
yourselves:
Like,
You,
Are,
Tonight
Show
up,
try
to
get
your
neighbors
to
show
up
and
I
commend
the
the
select
board
for
listening
to
the
public.
B
B
Hey
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
so
bring
it
back
to
the
board.
We
want
to
do
I
I
sense
that
the
the
r
language
is
gone.
So
I
think
that
answers
that
that
question
it
seems
to
be
answered
and
I
think
the
the
debate
centers
now
around
whether
to
require
completion
of
transition
to
the
drb
Within
one
year,
18
months
or
two
years,
which
has
all
been
discussed
here.
O
O
Know
if
I
had
to
the
best
my
best
foot
forward
on
it
I
would
say
10
to
24,
because
that
doesn't
Force
us
into
a
year.
It
doesn't
Force
us
into
waiting
two
years.
It
gives
us
you
know
if
it's
adopted
it
gives
us
the
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
you
know
accept
within
the
year
of
physical.
You
know
that
gives
us
a
also
on
a
planning
side
of
things
too,
because
that's
24
wraps
up.
You
know
we
have
the
holidays
and
and
people
aren't
as
busy.
O
You
know,
water
projects
aren't
happening
in
the
winter.
Give
us
some
time
to
adjust,
set
up
the
board,
get
a
fresh
start
on
the
first
of
the
year
and
move
forward
with
it
in
the
year
of
of
25.
So
those
are
just
my
thoughts
and
I
am
more
than
willing
to
compromise
or
think
outside
the
box
with
anyone.
O
D
B
B
C
We're
fine,
with
12
months,
I'm
fine
with
18
months,
understanding,
I'm
fine
with
12
months,
I'm
fine
with
18
months,
understanding
that
Greg
is
going
to
go
and
have
a
next
meeting.
It
may
move
from
12
months
to
18
months.
It
may
move
from
18
to
12..
It
gives
us
a
starting
point
for
discussions,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
whatever
we
say
tonight
is
engraved
after.
B
D
B
G
B
A
B
C
B
B
G
G
There's
also
a
big
increase
to
the
previous
year.
This
would
affect
all
the
municipalities
within
Essex
rescues,
service
area.
That's
the
town
of
Essex
city
of
Essex,
Junction,
town
of
Underhill
and
portions
of
Jericho
and
Westford.
We've
all
had
similar
concerns.
No
complaints
about
the
service
service
from
Essex
rescue
was
great.
Just
some
concerns
about
the
rate
of
increase
in
the
costs.
Ethan
and
I
met
with
some
the
the
managers
and
some
Council
select
board
officials
of
the
other
communities.
G
We
drafted
up
a
letter
looking
for
some
additional
I
guess,
feedback
and
and
contributions
to
Essex
rescue.
Those
are
laid
out
in
the
letter
asking
that
Essex
rescue
provide
quarterly
Financial
reports.
I'm
asking
that
each
member
of
municipality
have
an
option
to
place
a
voting
member
on
the
board
of
directors
asking
for
an
independent
Financial
audit
and
asking
for
an
independent
operational
assessment.
Just
to
try
to
have
a
little
bit
more
insight
and
influence
going
forward
to
hopefully
avoid
such
large
increases
going
forward.
G
We
don't
think
that
is
going
to
be
the
case.
I
mean
from
what
Essex
rescue
has
told
us.
This
is
getting
them
to
the
point
of
of
being
stable,
financially
being
operational,
stable,
operationally
stable,
but
just
after
two
years
of
large
increases,
we
wanted
to
have
some
more
of
conversation
and
some
more
input,
because
it
is
something
that
is
scary
as
we
go
forward.
If
we
keep
seeing
increases
like
that
at
a
certain
point,
we
will
not
be
able
to
absorb
those.
So
that's
the
information
in
the
packet
Ethan.
O
G
And
forgot
to
mention:
Essex
rescue
does
have
some
Representatives
here
who
might
be
willing
to
speak
to
this
all
five
of
the
towns
as
we've
met.
We
really
want
this
to
be
a
collaborative
relationship.
We
want
to
continue
that
relationship.
We
want
to
work
together
and
just
want
to
have
this.
As
part
of
that
conversation,
the
next
step
forward.
Y
F
F
F
We
have
been
completely
open
to
any
sort
of
audit
financially
operationally
financially,
it's
not
in
our
budget
to
do
so.
We're
happy
to
do
it
at
the
expense
of
the
towns.
If
that's
what
you
would
like,
we
are
not
obligated
legally
to
do
that
happy
to
do
what
you
need
for
to
feel
like
we
are
being
fully
transparent
with
you.
That's
not
the
issue,
but
funding
is
an
issue
and
that's
why
we're
in
the
predicament
that
we're.
Y
And
if
it's
transparency
that
you're
looking
for,
then
that's
a
spot
at
the
table
with
us
as
we
review
our
own
internal
procedures
and
organizational
Workforce,
which
we
did
come
to
you
earlier
this
year
and
describe
the
radical
changes
that
we've
taken
on
so
as
we've
said,
open
to
those
requests.
But
that
is
going
to
sit
outside
of
our
operational
budget
and
where
we
have
finances
for.
So.
If
that's
something
that
you're
looking
to
ask
of
us,
it's
going
to
come
at
the
expense
of
the
towns
and
happy
to
participate
in
that
dialogue.
Y
Y
Y
O
That
was
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
all
that,
because
I
thought
I
might
have
missed
something
I'd
search,
both
your
names
by
any
means.
If
I
was
a
you
know,
if
I
can
be
invited
to
a
board
meeting.
If
there's
a
meeting
that
I
don't
know
the
times,
things
like
that
I
will
more
than
gladly
be
a
part
of
it
and
show
up
and.
Y
Y
And
for
full
transparency
again
we
have
an
external
accounting
firm
that
handles
all
of
our
books,
as
well
as
our
tax
filings
and
corporate
filings.
So
for
a
number
of
years
they
were
handled
internally
by
organizational
Personnel.
We
never
suspected
malfeasance
then,
and
we
don't
now
either,
but
we
do.
J
J
Mr
Speaker
the
so
that
they
used
to
have
students
that
their
volunteerism
is
really
lowered,
which
puts
a
strain
on
them
and
they
used
to
have
a
program
out
of
UVM.
Understanding
is
where
Med
students,
pre-med
students
would
come
and
they
would
volunteer
and
do
their
hours
working
with
the
EMS,
and
that
would
be
really
good
to
get
back.
J
If
that,
why
it's
lost
I'm,
not
sure,
but
there's
also
a
system
of
when
they
go
out
on
a
call
and
it's
a
lift,
assist
person,
who's
down
and
can't
get
up
on
their
own
and
they
need
help.
They
go
out,
but
they're
not
reimbursed
by
that
by
insurance
or
by
Medicare.
And
we
know
how
poor
those
reimbursements
are
if
they
even
gave
them.
It.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there
aren't
grants
that
are
available
for
them,
that
they
could
look
into
and
get
some
actual
money.
J
That
way,
and
with
the
mutual
Aid
system
that
we
have
between
Colchester
and
the
surrounding
towns
when
they
come
into
Essex
and
take
care
of
a
call
because
we're
out
on
a
lift
assist,
we
don't
get
paid,
but
they
get
to
take
the
money
that
they're
using
for
our
people
and
not
getting
so.
We
need
the
mutual
assist
as
well,
but
we
do
need
to
do
something
about
that.
J
Maybe
someone
else
should
be
going
out
doing
the
Olympics
I
know
that
when
you
get
there
it
could
be
something
totally
different
than
just
a
lift
assist.
So
that's
why
they're
there
only
if
they
go
to
the
hospital,
do
they
the
monies
and
everything
so
I
was
thinking
those
things
and
also
there
is
a
different
system.
That's
out
there
and
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
look
at
it
because
it
sounds
like
Colleen
and
team
is
really
wanting
to
be
reacted
in
involved
with
our
with
our
board.
J
Maybe
that's
a
direction
to
go,
but
what
the
person
who
I
was
talking
about
is,
but
do
are
the
EMS
Personnel
have
to
participate
in
the
buyer
if
there's
not
a
person
who's
ill,
that
they're
supposed
to
be
there
to
take
care
of
if
they're
folded
into
the
into
the
department.
That's
what
they
didn't
know,
and
but
if
we
we
don't
have
currently
that
we're
I'm
aware
of
database
of
how
many
lift
assists
they
do
in
a
year
and
how
much
time
that
takes
away,
because
on
the
day
shift
they
only
have
two.
J
They
only
have
two
EMS
trucks
that
are
going
out
during
the
day
shifts
because
they
have
four
people
on
and
two
for
each
one,
but
on
the
evening
shift
there's
only
three
to
four
people
there.
If
there's
three
you're
only
getting
one
truck,
that's
going
out
at
all,
so
we
need
to
get
set
a
reimbursement
for
their.
K
I'm
listening
carefully
and
what
I'm
learning
just
from
this
whole
conversation
is
again
I
keep
repeating
all
stakeholders
have
to
be
involved
before.
Even
our
select
board
makes
final
decisions.
I
think
everybody
needs
to
be
at
the
table
from
now
on,
because
and
one
other
little
tidbit
about
the
rescue.
It's
just
a
little
fact.
One-Fourth
of
the
Vermont
population
in
three
years
will
be
over
age,
65
and
think
about
it.
How
about
how
large
our
population
of
Essex
is?
K
X
My
name
is
Bill
Moran
I
serve
as
the
Emergency
Medical
Services
Chief
at
the
Vermont
Department
of
Health
and
I.
Think
the
perspective
I
can
provide
tonight
is
I
on
a
daily
basis.
Work
with
folks
from
across
the
state
I
see
EMS
systems
from
a
regional
standpoint
that
are
private,
not-for-profits,
private,
for-profits,
Firebase
and
Municipal
based.
But
what
I
can
what
I
can
give
you
tonight
is
a
little
bit
of
sort
of
the
state's
perspective
on
what's
happening
in
the
evolution
of
our
EMS
system.
X
You
know
EMS,
when
we
think
about
it
today,
as
compared
to
20
years
ago,
looks
dramatically
different
the
level
of
professionalism
that
is
expected
from
the
public
level
profession.
That's
expected
from
our
Health
Care
Partners
has
changed
dramatically.
You
know,
for
someone
to
become
an
EMT
is
140
hours
of
training
for
someone
to
become
a
paramedic,
it
supports
a
1500
and
that's
just
enough
to
get
you
in
the
door.
X
So
when
we
think
about
our
pre-hospital
care
providers
today,
we're
really
thinking
about
those
folks
who
have
chosen
to
make
this
a
profession
and,
as
we
think
about
the
evolution
of
EMS
and
the
level
of
the
the
extension
of
the
emergency
department,
that
EMS
is
out
into
the
community
that
comes
at
an
increasing
cost.
That
I
think
many
communities
today
are
are
facing.
The
reality
of
you
know.
One
things
I
can
say
about:
Essex
rescue
is
because
we
do
keep
an
eye.
X
We
don't
track
the
data
explicitly,
but
we
keep
an
eye
or
keeping
an
ear
to
the
ground
as
far
as
what's
happening
for
per
capita
requests.
When
we
look
at
the
funding
model,
that
EMS
primarily
relies
upon
today
to
support
operations
is
that
funding
model
today
on
a
per
capita
rate
ranges
between
you
know,
a
dollar
per
capita
upwards
of
60
and
I
heard
a
recent
proposal
that
was
over
110.
X
So
when
we
think
about
where
sxrsu
has
been
historically
and
where
they're
proposing
they
go
you're
still
very
much
in
the
bottom.
Third,
from
a
state's
perspective
on
the
per
capita
funding
rate,
what
I
would
really
consider
you
to
think
about
is
what
you're
getting
for
that.
You
know
you
know.
Essex
rescue
has
been
a
leader
in
paramedic
level
care
for
more
than
10
years.
They
are
they're
folks
on
their
team.
X
Not
only
are
leaders
within
their
Community,
their
EMS
Community,
their
leaders
within
our
state
community,
and
they
have
many
folks
historically
that
have
sat
on
National
commissions
and
really
driven
the
evolution
of
EMS
on
a
national
basis,
and
we
have
all
benefited
from
that
to
you
know
when
I
think
about
the
challenges
that
EMS
faces
today.
I
think
I
think
Regional
system
reform
is
one
of
the
issues
that
comes
up
time
and
time
again.
X
Just
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
Vermont
League
of
cities
and
towns
entertained
and
hosted
a
forum,
and
they
invited
EMS
service
Chiefs
from
across
the
state
to
attend
the
state
attended
as
well
and
system
reform
system.
Funding
reform
was
one
of
the
main
issues
that
was
highlighted
by
many
of
the
services
that
participated.
We
think
about
the
way
that
EMS
is
funded.
Today,
it
comes
from
really
three
principal
places:
right:
we
have
reimbursements
that
are
provided
by
the
insurance
companies
or
are
government-based
Healthcare
entities
such
as
CMS,
so
Medicare
Medicaid.
X
X
What
I
think
many
communities
across
Vermont,
because
Vermont
has
historically
been
a
predominantly
volunteer
system
which
allows
the
costs
to
remain
low?
What
we've
seen
is
that,
as
our
number
of
volunteers
has
continued
to
decrease,
there's
been
a
greater
reliance
upon
more
and
more
paid
positions
to
meet
the
community's
needs.
I
suggest
you
respond
to
3044
requests
for
service
last
year
across
the
communities
that
they
serve
substantial
and
it
takes
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
to
to
support
that
operation.
You
know
this.
This
conversation
is
being
had
in
in
many
communities
across
the
state.
X
I
think
folks
are
looking
for
a
cost.
Both
you
know
an
economical
solution,
but
also
matching
a
solution
with
what
the
with
what
the
community
is,
is
capable
of
providing
as
far
as
financial
support,
so
I
think
when
you
think
about
in
the
long
term
about
what
the
right
solution
is
for
your
community
I
would
urge
you
to
participate.
You
know
with
the
invitation
of
Essex
rescue
and
with
sounds
like
what
is
the
asset
communities
is
to
get
involved
in
the
organization
and
hear
from
your
organization
and
learn
about
the
organization.
X
I
can
tell
you
that
the
private,
not-for-profit
services
that
I
see
that
are
the
most
successful
when
it
comes
to
community
engagement
and
communication.
Are
those
folks
that
do
have
Community
active
participation
on
their
Boards
of
directors,
you're
thinking
it
oftentimes
will
help
avoid
situations
like
this,
where
you
know
Essex
rescue
Staffing
model,
which
was
very
successful
for
many
many
decades
right
for
probably
40
years,
they
were
very
successful
in
keeping
their
costs
substantially
Low.
By
predominantly
you
know,
working
off
of
a
volunteer
model.
We
know
EMS
is
changing.
X
You
turn
over
the
entire
EMS
Workforce,
so
we're
looking
for
opportunities
to
retain
really
high
quality,
EMS
partitioners
that
comes
with
knowing
that
you
can
have
a
a
reasonably
playing
job
that
allows
you
to
have
a
roof
over
your
head
and
food
on
your
table.
So
you
know
when
you
think
about
the
support
that
you're
looking
to
to
offer.
X
Essex
rescue
you
know,
I,
would
urge
you
know
for
you
to
take
those
things
into
consideration
and
to
think
about
you
know
what
is
it
that
your
community
expects
when
they
pick
up
the
ambulance
or
when
they
pick
up
the
phone
to
call
for
an
ambulance,
because
it
isn't
a
guaranteed
thing,
it's
not
guaranteed
and
when
we
rely
upon
obvious
voice,
do
you
survive
that
service?
It
does
take
a
public
and
private
partnership
to
make
that
possible,
so
the
community
can
expect
very
high
level
quality
of
care
when
they
do
call
9-1-1.
X
B
So
that's
that's
I,
think
that
you
know
we
just
looking
for
a
way
to
understand.
Better
also
have
to
have
and
I
and
I
I
agree
with
what
you
said.
If
we
we'd
have
someone
on
your
board
and
I
understand
that
the
device
report
has
not
been
been
re-established
yet
I
think
that
would
that
would
absolutely
help,
because
we
could
have
much
more
communication
back
and
forth
the
other.
The
other
thing
is
yeah,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
we
other
than
that.
How
we
can
have
a
better.
B
E
No
I
was
just
wondering
you
know
why
can't
we
get
a
committee
together
where
you
would
have
also
have
volunteers
from
the
community
to
talk
about
this
whole
issue,
because
ethics
rescue
is
something
that's
very
important
to
all
of
us
and
I.
Think
if
we
had
some
kind
of
committee
where
we
could
work
with
them,
you
know
it
would
be
a
good
thing.
I
thought
that
somehow
we
were
talking
about
having
a
public
service
or
a
public
safety
commission,
but
that's
kind
of
Gone
by
the
board.
E
B
N
O
I,
just
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
couple
comments,
because
this
is
really
difficult
for
all
of
us
and
especially
myself
being
a
representative
and
and
a
slack
board
member
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
hear
from
the
community
members
and
from
Essex
rescue
and
from
us
at
the
slackboard
here
and
the
hardest
part
about
this
whole
relationship
and
Essex
rescued
in
a
hole.
Is
it's
not
just
what
I
think?
O
It's
not
what
the
Essex
select
word
thinks
there's
five
communities
that
if
one
of
these
communities
says
I'm
not
paying
this
year,
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
know
there's
or
other
communities
that
have
to
figure
out.
Well,
you
know:
can
we
raise
up
to
20
to
continue
to
find
out?
You
know
we
don't
in
no
means
do
we
want
to
underfund
Essex
rescue
or
lose
Essex
rescue,
but
we
may
have
a
concern.
O
O
Well,
we
can
help
in
Essex
aside
and
bring
more
members
of
our
community
together
to
help,
because
you
know
there's
thoughts
from
from
Underhill
and
there's
thoughts
from
Westford
and
Jericho,
and
that
was
really
one
of
the
main
focus
points
in
our
conversation
and
and
I
I
apologize
for
not
reaching
out
before
because
it
was
such
a
you
know.
I
couldn't
speak
for
everybody
else.
O
I
had
a
couple
concerns
of
my
own,
but
it
was
not
the
whole
picture,
and
that
was
that
is
still
the
hardest
task
that
we
have
here
at
hand,
and
that
was
kind
of
the
thing
when
the
when
this
letter
was
was,
you
know,
thought
of
and
brought
out
was.
You
know
which
one
of
us
five
communities
is.
Is
gonna
give
Colleen
a
heads
up?
Are
we
all
going
to
call
Colleen
and
say
you
know
what
hey
we
wrote
this
letter?
O
We
take
an
initiative
here
and
can
somebody
from
this
municipality
think
about
these
things?
So
as
we
move
forward,
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
hard
to
to
involve
all
the
community
and
I
totally
agree.
That's
the
most
important
aspect,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw
it
out
there
again
that
you
know
we
have
it's
not
just
us.
It's
it's
five
other
communities
and
we
all
have
to
agree.
You
know
really,
because
we
have
to
support
Essex
rescue
in
all.
O
Five
of
our
communities
have
to
support
Essex
rescue
and
we
have
to
have
a
plan
forward,
or
we
can
all
do
that
and
that's
going
to
be
the
challenge,
but
I
think
it's
achievable,
and
you
know
this
is
just
the
let's
say
a
starting
point
of
of
continuing
and
building
and-
and
you
know,
cherishing
the
relationship
that
we
do
have
and
that
was
brought
up
many
times.
I
think
Greg
can
attest.
O
For
me,
too,
is
in
no
means
was
this
ever
meant
to
be
malicious
against
Essex
Rescue
It
was
just
meant
to
be,
you
know,
can
we
help?
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
run
the
systems
in
in
any
of
these
ways,
or
you
know,
create
something
that's
more
than
what
we
have
now.
So
just
wanted
to
share
those
thoughts
with
everybody.
Y
I
I
also
want
to
make
it
clear
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
help
inform
and
get
the
context
across,
because
this
isn't
about
responding
to
what
is
Underhill
need.
What
does
Essex
need?
What
is
Westford
need?
You
all
need
the
same
thing
need
ambulance
service,
24
7,
and
that's
what
we're
here
to
provide
that.
Y
It's
certainly
an
open
book
to
figure
out
if
there
are
other
options
that
are
going
to
help
us.
Do
this
better.
That's
always
a
conversation
that
we're
open
to,
but
the
main
point
that
we're
trying
to
get
across
to
you
and
the
other
four
towns
is
the
context
for
how
we
got
where
we
are
so
that
there's
no
misunderstanding
when
this
goes
before
the
budget
committee
that
there's
no
real
other
option.
Y
We
didn't
come
to
you
with
18
per
capita,
because
that's
what
feels
right
and
I
understand
the
frustration
that
there
was
a
different
story
at
a
different
time.
Believe
me
that
doesn't
make
me
feel
good
either,
but
the
reasons
for
why
we
got
there
and
why
we're
here
now
are
pretty
straightforward
and
we
can
track
back
to
help.
You
understand
the
context
of
where
we
are
and
what
the
potential
future
might
look
like.
Y
So
I
would
ask
for
more
openness
in
Candor
and
less
demands
of
like
Audits
and
expectations
about
organizational
representation,
because
we
can
answer
most
of
these
questions
in
a
discussion,
as
I
said
before.
If
what's
going
to
make
the
relationship
feel
strong
is
an
independent
audit,
we'll
we'll
do
that,
but
there's
not
any
money
in
our
operational
budget
to
do
that.
So
that'll
also
be
a
conversation
about
how
does
that
come
about,
and
how
do
we
justify
the
need
for
that
I'd
like
to
exhaust
all
the
other
opportunities?
N
B
C
C
C
However,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
is
coming
from
a
place,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
that
we
feel
as
though
we
are
doing
our
due
diligence
as
the
fiduciary
body
of
this
municipality.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
comes
across
that
this
is
not
a
judgment
call.
This
is
not
questioning
your
value.
This
is
not
meant
to
be
adversarial.
It
is
not
an
easy
conversation.
It's
not
particularly
comfortable
to
be
in
this
position.
Y
Y
That's
my
point
back
to
you
guys
about
before
we
EX
Port,
Audits
and
organizational
reviews.
Let's
have
the
conversations.
Maybe
we
can
get
to
that
level
of
due
diligence
without
engaging
those
other
resources.
So
before
we
put
a
demand
or
a
request
out
in
a
letter
that
says,
please
do
these
things
in
order
to
get
these
things.
Y
Conversation
might
be
able
to
get
us
to
a
point
of
understanding
without
spending
that
money
in
time,
because
that's
also
not
just
like
they're
waiting
in
the
wings
they're
going
to
come
in
tomorrow
and
do
this
stuff.
That's
a
long
run
way
to
get
some
of
those
things
done
and
we're
all
busy
doing
things
like
keeping
the
ambulance
out
there.
So
I
don't
take
it
defensively,
but
I
do
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
openly
and
collaboratively,
and
that
is
going
to
require
some
more
of
these
difficult
conversations.
Y
Z
Sorry,
I'm
Dan,
Roy,
I'm,
the
finance
director
and
here
at
Essex
for
four
months,
I'd
like
to
reiterate
what
Tracy
and
Ethan
have
already
said
that
no
one's
ever
had
a
disparaging
word
to
say
about
the
services
provided
by
Essex
rescue
I
would
like
to
clarify
that
the
purpose
of
an
audit
is
not
to
find
fraud
or
misspent
funds
or
anything
of
that
nature.
Fraud
is
Financial.
Audit
is
simply
to
prove
that
the
numbers
are
justifiable,
just
accurate
in
a
true
representation
of
the
functions
of
a
an
organization.
Z
So
the
purpose
of
an
audit
is
not
for
a
fraud
and
I've,
unfortunately
feel
that
it's
too
bad
that
that
kind
of
word
has
been
tossed
around,
because
no
one's
ever
accused
of
anyone
of
that.
So
I
feel
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
excessive
leap
to
say
you
know,
an
audit
is
gonna,
try
and
find
a
fraud
thing.
You
know
having
been
here
for
four
months
and
presented
you
as
a
board
with
a
22
tax
increase
and
gone
through
the
process
of
you
asking
questions
in
the
community
asking
questions
about
it.
Z
That's
the
correlation
that
should
be
made
here
like
we
are
just
simply
looking
for
justification
of
the
increases
that
we're
seeing
that
we're
exhibiting
we're,
not
denigrating
the
services
and
we're
not
saying
we'll,
never
do
it.
It's
I
think
it's
just
feel
like
it's
looking
for
looking
for
answers,
just
like
the
community
is
with
our
current
budget
situation,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
in.
Thank.
O
A
Y
So
full
disclosure,
like
we
just
found
out
about
this
letter
yesterday
in
the
meeting
for
you
guys
today.
So
as
soon
as
we
get
information
about
the
other
select
board
meetings,
we
will
plan
to
attend
and
discuss
this
with
them
as
well.
This
this
is
wasn't
a
a
long
Runway
to
figuring
out
how
to
respond
to
it.
So
yeah
it's
been
pretty
much
just
I.
Y
O
Just
wanted
to
to
share
my
concern
for
the
reasoning
of
the
question
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I,
if
I
made
a
line
with
any
of
the
other
board
members,
but
being
a
part
of
this,
you
know,
I
read
it
had
the
opportunity
to
make
changes,
but
I
was
also
in
the
meeting
with
all
the
other
people
and
there's
some
points
that
were
made
that
were
very
clear
and
people.
O
C
G
The
budget
yet
and
part
of
staff's
recommendations
that
we
do
fund
the
full
amount
after
this
conversation
tonight
and
click
on
Pine
for
a
moment
that
I
think
it's
going
to
partially
answer
your
question
too.
This
is
part
of
the
challenge
that
Ethan
was
referring
to
about
were
five
communities
that
are
all
customers
and
it's
if
one
of
us
says
we're
going
to
fund
to
that
15
an
hour
and
another
one
says:
eight
per
capita,
another
one
says
18
per
capita.
Another
one
says
twelve
dollars
per
capita.
How
do
we
do
that?
C
G
B
So,
to
be
clear,
what
we're
voting
on
is
whether
to
have
the
select
or
chair
sign
the
letter
for
the
town
of
Essex,
with
the
Proviso
that
we
continued
discussions
with
Essex
rescue
and
the
way
the
memo
is
written.
It
says
that
we
ask
for
those
things
the
intent
is,
as
is
stated
in
the
letter,
that
we
would
fully
fund
them.
It's
later
in
our
agenda
that
we're
probably
never
hopefully
going
to
finalize
the
budget.
O
N
B
B
A
B
B
T
U
B
B
C
S
Z
Z
L
Z
Z
N
O
Z
T
Z
N
A
B
B
B
B
N
Z
Foreign
yeah,
that's
fair,
to
say:
if
it's
a
if
it's
an
externally
proposed
item,
you
know
it
would
need
to
be
a
restricted
balance.
Like
the
item
that
we
have
in
there
is
our
reappraisal
funds,
which
is
obviously
going
to
go
to
right.
The
reappraisal,
Happening.
You
know
in
the
next
couple
years,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
the
source
of
the
ninety
seven
hundred
dollars.
So
I
would
need
to
investigate
that
to
see
if
it's
truly
an
external,
yes
and.
G
I
did
some
research
today
and
it's
I
don't
know
when
it
came
to
the
town.
It
was
some
sort
of
economic,
Development,
Group
or
entity.
That
sort
of
disbanded
gave
the
town
some
money
and
the
select
board
at
the
time
adopted
some
restrictions
on
it.
So
it's
almost
it's
been
assigned,
it's
not
I,
wouldn't
say
it's
totally
restricted,
and
this
is
where
my
I'm,
not
an
accountant,
so
I'm,
not
a
finance
expert,
so
my
understanding
of
the
words
may
be
probably
different
to
not
as
accurate
as
dance.
G
There
are
some
caveats
and
guidelines
that
Andy
referenced
about
how
that
money
could
be
spent.
I
think
there's
a
fair
amount
of
flexibility.
You
might
remember.
We
proposed
to
use
a
fifteen
hundred
or
three
thousand
dollars
in
the
fiscal
year
budget
for
24
from
that
which
I
think
qualifies
a
talks.
It's
it's
Loosely
speaking,
it's
supposed
to
be
spent
towards
Economic
Development
purposes.
G
We've
applied
it
in
The,
Economic,
Development
Fund
in
the
budget
this
year,
looking
to
support
some
of
that
work.
So
there's
there's
guidelines
around
it.
It's
not
as
restricted
as
like
the
reappraisal
funds,
where
it
can
only
be
used
for
this
very
one
specific
thing
or
Clerk's
records.
So
there
are
some
restrictions,
but
I
think
we
can
start
to
look
at
how
to
use
that
money.
That's.
B
G
B
B
Okay
and
the
I
see
on
the
spreadsheet
that
it
says
for
future
tax
reduction.
Let's
say
the
the
I
guess
the
intent
there
is.
You
would
propose
that
to
going
to
future
years,
I
know,
there's
been
a
proposal
to
use
600
000
this
year,
400
000
the
following
year,
200
000
over
the
next
year
or
two
possibly
clear
out.
What's
still
hanging
around
and
feather
down
use
it
unbalance
protective
relief.
Z
B
O
O
It
goes
far
saying
using
a
million
dollars
this
year,
but
that
probably
won't
happen
so
I'd
say
a
hundred
thousand,
but
you
can't
pull
the
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
for
future
tax
reductions
that
can
be
used
for
anything.
Besides
future
tax
reductions,
it
can
be
assigned
to
anything.
This
is.
T
O
They
need
to
be
given
back
and
in
my
plan,
if
I
have
the
opportunity
to
serve
on
the
board
again,
a
four
percent
increase
is
more
than
enough
next
year
to
suit
this
budget
that
we
have,
we
got
200
000,
going
back
into
capital,
I,
don't
think!
That's
quite
enough.
I'd
suggest
throwing
300
in
there,
but
I
wouldn't
put
in
my
pocket
and
save
it
for
later.
I.
Don't
think!
That's
the
right
thing
to
do.
One.
B
D
L
Z
D
L
G
Hypothetically,
that's
four
percent:
that's
a
normal
operation,
that's
that's
everything
and
then,
if
you
factor
in
the
fact
that
we
need
to
account
for
200
000,
300
000
400
000
of
fund
balance,
here's
your
four
percent
right
there
before
we
even
have
any
budget
increases
for
operating
costs.
Salary
increases,
benefit,
increases
gasoline
increases.
Any
of
that.
O
But
if
you
pay
22
this
year,
you're
only
planning
on
well,
you
would
be
six
hundred
thousand
so
six
say
ten
percent
next
year.
If
you
bring
it
down
to
19
.,
you
can
stay
around
10
again,
so
max
should
be
12
on
your
numbers.
You
just
gave
right
on
the
on
the
scenario
you
just
gave:
you'd
be
12..
If
you
went
down
to
19,
so
you
could
still
hold
it
around
10
9
10
this
year
through
the
year
after
that,
you
could
fight
a
little
harder.
You
know
your
appraisal
coming
up
25..
O
G
G
The
faster
you
eat
that
tax
increase,
the
sooner
you
can
get
back
to
normalcy.
So
do
you
want
to
do
a
big
increase
this
year
and
then
another
pretty
big
increase
next
year
and
then
another
pretty
big
increase
after
that
you
get
to
that
point
of
normalcy,
or
do
you
want
to
absorb
as
much
of
it
as
you
can
this
year,
and
even
with
that?
G
That's
what
the
600
percent
600
600
000
dollars
towards
fund
balance
and,
as
Dan
said,
we're
looking
at
a
plan
of
Feathering
that
down
over
the
next
few
years,
four
hundred
thousand
two
hundred
thousand
phase
of
that.
That's
based
on
the
money
that
we
have
now
that
we
know
we
have
without
promising
anything
for
next
year.
The
way
we've
been
doing
the
budget,
the
way
you've
been
accounting-
you
know,
Dan
thinks
will
be
in
a
similar
type
of
situation
next
year.
G
Yeah
no
promises,
we
don't
know
what
the
future
is
going
to
bring,
but
cautiously
optimistic
about
optimistic's,
not
not
the
right
word
but
cautiously,
predicting
that
we,
we
will
have
some
additional
fund
balance
next
year
to
help
with
that
feather,
and
so
maybe,
as
opposed
to
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
difference
say
you
have
to
make
up
each
year.
Maybe
we
can
do
150.
G
But
do
you
want
to
get
through
the
public
hearings
and
see
what
people
say
and
see
if
you
have
any
more
comments
and
then
decide
if
you
want
to
apply
more
money
towards
towards
the
fun
Bell
more
fund
balance
towards
the
tax
rate
this
year
and
see
what
that
brings
and
take
a
you
know:
cautious,
hedger
bets
that
will
have
some
more
next
year
to
help
feather
it
and
phase
it
out.
But
the
more
you
put
apply
this
year,
the
more
unbalance
you
apply
to
offsetting
the
tax
rate
this
year.
Z
And
I
would
add
to
that
Greg
that
you're
probably
more
vulnerable
to
the
volatility
of
inflation
and
other
costs.
If
you
have
to
mirror
your
tax
rate
to
follow
costs,
your
tax
rate
isn't
going
to
be
a
four
or
five
percent
increase
each
year.
It
could
be
the
10
one
year.
It
would
be.
15
could
be
three
you're
going
to
be
following
ex.
You
know
the
true
expenditure
cycle
a
little
bit
more
always
kind
of
chasing
that
number.
This
kind
of
phase-in
plan
allows
us
to
have
a
softer
Landing
a
little
bit
sooner.
Z
You
know
we're
it's
a
big
hit
this
year
92
a
lot,
but
it
allows
us
to
have
room
in
the
fund
balance
to
plan
to
try
and
get
to
that
four
to
six
percent
range
order,
whatever
that
new
normal
is
going
to
be
so
instead
of
you
know,
taking
1.2
million
and
doing
it
all
here
and
being
15
or
whatever
it
might
be
next
year
could
be
15
too,
and
who
knows
when
we
ever
get
out
of
that
cycle
of
having
it
be
15
percent?
That's
the
thinking
behind
it
too.
Yeah.
O
B
One
one
I
hope
they
get
away
from
that.
One
thing
to
one
thing
to
consider
or
that
you
you
gotta
remember,
is
that
we
now
have
a
contract
with
the
city
of
Essex
Junction
to
provide
Police
Services.
If
unspent
police
salaries
are
a
big
portion
of
what
contributes
to
our
fund
balance,
we
will
have
to
share
that
back
to
City
of
Essex
Junction
in
there
there
contract
payments,
so
we
will
only
get
52
percent
of
fund
balance
generated
from
unspent
lease
salaries
so
going
into
the
future.
B
G
G
It
may
be
a
lot
less
than
we're
used
to,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we've
made
adjustments
to
the
police
for
budgeting
about
90
as
opposed
to
100
or
the
95
percent
that
we've
done
in
the
past.
So
that's
going
to
take
away
some
fund
balance
right
there.
You
know
the
fund
balance
is,
is
largely
in
dank
and
can
add
to
this,
but
it's
a
large
part
of
it
is
personnel
and
staff
openings,
and
so
when
we
have
police
that
aren't
that
aren't
positions
that
aren't
filled
every
month
that
that
position
is
open.
G
That's
where
the
fund
balance
comes
from
when
we
have
a
community
development
director
which
was
discard
fiscal
year,
not
not
the
fiscal
year
22,
but
when
we
don't
have
a
fish,
a
Dev
director
for
four
months,
that's
going
to
create
fund
balance,
we
don't
have
an
admin
person
in
the
recreation
department
for
a
few
months.
That's
going
to
create
fun
balance.
G
We
hope
those
don't
happen.
We
don't
budget
for
them
because
we
don't
know
when
somebody's
going
to
take
a
new
job
when
someone's
going
to
leave
when
those
openings
are
going
to
happen.
But
those
are
often
the
Big
Driver
of
what
what
creates
the
fund
balance
and
there
might,
if
you
want
to
add
to
any
any
other
big
drivers.
Z
Yeah
I
mean
that's
that's
precise
and
you
know
we've
taken
out
a
lot
of
those
buffers,
whether
it
be
police
or
overtime.
You
know
those
those
items
have
been
hit
harder
in
this
budget
cycle
than
they
would
have
been
in
the
past.
So
you
know
there's
they're,
just
leaner
budgets,
even
though
the
tax
increase
is
22
percent.
The
budget
is
leaner
than
it
has
been
in
those
regards.
B
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
interesting
that
it's
actually
a
7.4
budget
reduction
right,
yeah,
yeah,
that's
right
so
and
so
I
I'm
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
interested
where
I'm
thinking
it's.
It's
I
can't
believe
what
I'm
saying,
there's
some
usually
I
have
in
the
past,
been
very
much
a
proponent
of
give
the
money
back
as
fast
as
you
can,
but
the
the
the
the
the
concern
I
have
is
that
we
have
two
years
in
a
row
of
double-digit
increases.
B
If
we
tweak
this
too
much
right
now,
because
again
you
you
don't
have
that
Revenue
source
not
going
to
have
as
much
fund
balance
going
forward
to
add
back
to
it
and
I
guess.
Also
in
the
spirit
of
our
discussion
earlier
about
waiting
till
we
get
input
from
our
public
hearings,
but
I'm
going
to
go
with
what
we've
got
and
then
we
can.
We
can
adjust
later
because
we
can
change.
B
N
L
L
B
R
R
My
expectation
was
about
this
amount,
which
of
course,
was
over
a
12-year
period,
but
that
didn't
also
incorporate
my
expectations
for
well
what
happened
with
inflation
plus
a
health
care
costs
and
plus
the
Essex
rescue
servers,
so
there's
other
things
that
impacted
that
would
then
even
bigger
had
we
merged
too.
So
from
this
public
member's
standpoint.
It's
it's
just
not
a
surprise
to
me.
So
I
don't
know!
If
that's
why
other
people
aren't
really
weighing
in
I.
Don't
I
have
no
clue
what
people
think
about
this
budget.
R
B
K
Concur
with
Lorraine,
because
what
I'm
hearing
from
residents
is
take
care
of
the
infrastructure
and
everything
that
we
have
now
without
thinking
of
building
new
ones.
We
need
money
in
capital
for
just
our
increase
in
population,
and
people
think
that
this
22
percent
increase
is
supposed
to
be
paying
for
that
for
the
maintenance
of
what
we
have.
That's,
why
you're
not
getting
a
lot
of
feedback,
at
least
in
my
neighborhood
thanks
all.
T
B
A
G
G
And
lastly,
a
few
more
Personnel
changes
actually
brought
the
percentage
increase
down
to
22
percent.
Just
over
that's
Travis
or
HR
Director
had
filled
out
a
few
more
updates
based
on
hires.
We
also
realized
that
we
hadn't
been
allocating
some
personnel,
as
we
were
thinking
we
had
so
that's
like,
for
instance,
buy
salary.
Big
chunk
of
that
should
be
going
to
the
water
sewer
accounts.
We
had
some
in
there,
but
not
as
much
as
we
thought.
G
U
T
H
O
B
Right,
yeah,
the
the
warning:
that's
in
the
package
says
this
warning
for
the
budget.
With
the
increase
of
you
know
a
budget
of
this
amount
with
an
increase
of
such
and
such
we
actually
have
a
decrease
and
I
guess.
If
we
only
warn
that
we're
having
a
decrease,
it
sends
a
very
different
message
than
if
it
also
says:
there's
a
decrease
in
the
budget,
but
there's
also
a
22
percent
tax
rate
increase.
I.
Think
we
need
to
include.
B
G
C
B
U
B
G
Plan
from
what
you
saw
last
time
didn't
sound
like
there
were
any
changes
desired,
so
you
kind
of
left
it
as
is
Andy.
You
had
some
questions
about
some
of
the
accounting.
That's
in
there
and
and
show
them
the
balances
and
projects
and
and
what
money
is
there
you're
right?
We
need
to
do,
spend
some
more
time
on
that
this
year,
a
matter
of
time.
G
What
we
really
focused
on
was
the
money
that
we
knew
was
going
to
be
coming
again,
which
is
about
that
322
thousand
dollars
that
would
be
raised
off
the
two
cents
on
the
estimated
Grand
list.
That's
what
we
applied!
That's
what
we
assigned
Dan,
Aaron,
Catherine,
Sonic
and
I
are
now
meeting
weekly.
We
have
a
lot
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
capital
budget
as
far
as
cleaning
it
up.
Clearing
out
projects
that
are
done,
making
sure
balances
are
accurate.
G
Building
out
that
Five-Year
Plan
Aaron
already
started
working
on
what
a
eight-year
replacement
schedule
would
look
like
for
vehicles.
Charlie
and
I
have
had
that
conversation
as
well.
If
you
pull
in
the
back,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
as
far
as
what
you're
seeing
today,
what
you
saw
a
couple
weeks
ago
is,
is
really
focused
on.
Where
do
those
two
cents
go
and
that's
the
quick
overview.
P
Yeah
I,
don't
really
have
much
to
add.
I
did
spend
some
time
taking
a
look
at
an
eight-year
plan,
as
Greg
said,
but
I
I
think
I
agree
with
his
thoughts
as
well.
This
is
not
the
year
to
jump
into
that.
Both
feet,
I
think
it's
something
we
we
work
on
and
and
we
find
moving
forward
and
as
for
all
the
assignments
of
which
project
line
items
require
the
the
two
cents.
P
O
Z
Parsed
out
amongst
six
categories,
the
undesignated
amount
is
really
outside
of
those
categories
and
could
be
applied.
It's
like
say
if
there's
more
storm
water
event,
it
could
be
applied
to
that
a
particular
fund
group
as
well.
So
it's
it's
not
really
saying.
200
000
is
going
directly
to
storm
water.
It
could
be.
You
know,
as
as
the
needs
arise,
if
something
a
little
more
dire
happens
in
a
Rises
up
the
priority
list.
An
undesignated
amount
could
be,
you
know,
designated
to
a
particular
one
of
these
or
project
type.
O
D
O
The
grand
list,
I
should
say
with
the
Capital
Tax,
but
I
was
hoping
to
use
that
200
000
to
almost
covered
the
531
000
that
was
requested
as
a
bridge
year.
That
way
next
year
you
can
have
a
plan
for
it
from
say:
okay,
we
changed
vehicles
and
we
changed.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
our
planning
for
storm
water
and
all
these
other
things
and
then
there's
a
solid
plan
forward.
Where
you
can
say
we
don't
we
only
need
to
ask
for
let's
just
say
it's
380
next
year
or
whatever
it
might
be.
O
If
we
can
get
a
capital
tax
increase
and
even
better,
but
don't
in
my
opinion,
don't
underfund
it
this
year
pay
for
those
projects
that
you
asked
to
have
funded
complete
them.
You
know
you're
you're,
investing
in
the
town,
I
understand
it's
going
to
be
in
unassigned
and
it
can
be
used
for
things,
but
I
may
have
specifically
laid
out
here
for
certain
items
and
I'd
hate
to
see
it
go
somewhere
else.
Oh.
G
It's
a
combination
of
things
Ethan
to
start
with,
with
your
question
about
the
undesignated,
if
you
go
to
page
42
of
the
packet
at
the
bottom
of
the
kind
of
big
chart
there,
you've
got,
we
estimate
that
we're
going
to
have
626
000
of
undesignated
capital
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year.
23.
I,
don't
believe
that
includes
the
200
000.
We
just
signed
it
right.
Okay,.
A
O
G
G
P
G
So
that's
part
of
what
that
money
is
for
is
for
the
unexpected
surprises.
Part
of
it
is
if
we
have
a
great
Grant
opportunity
to
complete
a
sidewalk
or
finish
a
project,
but
we
don't
have
the
full
amount
in
that
Capital
line.
We
can
dip
into
the
undesignated
fund
to
support
that
to
answer
Andy's
questions
about
fully
funding
all
the
projects
they're
doing
here,
yeah.
We
we
did
a
number
of
ways
they're
proposing
to
do
it
a
number
of
ways,
some
of
some
of
them
like
the
Parks
garage
and
some
efficiency
lighting.
G
We
had
some
money
set
aside
for
efficiency
purposes,
so
we're
going
to
apply
that
towards
the
garage
as
opposed
to
a
separate
four
thousand
dollars.
We
have
a
bunch
of
recreation
impact
feed
money
so,
rather
than
putting
money
towards
Park
assets,
we
can
do
Recreation
impact
fees
this
year,
some
of
the
stuff
like
gravel
roads
and
our
highways.
We
were
proposing
to
dip
into
this
undesignated
fund.
G
O
B
O
O
O
But,
like
a
let's
just
say,
a
piece
of
equipment
like
you
know,
I
forget
what
the
dollar
amount
is,
but
you
want
to
be
able
to
spend
a
certain
amount
of
money
over
that,
but
you
can
tell
the
people
that
you're
gonna
spend
160
000
on
highways
and
150
000
on
stormwater
and
that's
their
plan
this
year
and
it's
like
awesome.
We
need
that
if
you
say
we're,
gonna
put
it
in
the
balance.
O
O
G
Trying
to
check
and
see
if
we
have
it
shown
in
here,
but
if
not,
we
certainly
can.
If
you
look
at
starting
with
page
38,
we
show
one
of
those
columns
is
fiscal
year
23.
The
estimated
balance
next
column
to
the
right
is
our
proposed
editions
from
the
Capital
Tax
column
next
set
of
columns,
after
that,
it
shows
where
additional
money
might
be
coming
from
I'm
trying
to
check
and
see
if
we
have
shown
some
of
the
undesignated
coming
out
and
going
into
those
accounts
to
make
up
the
difference.
D
N
O
A
P
N
O
B
T
O
Was
to
present
this,
especially
in
the
packet,
if
you're
gonna
have
it
broken
down
in
that
original
graph,
where
you
said
this
is
what
we
allowed
for
last
year.
This
is
what
we've
asked,
and
this
is
what
we're
funding
we're
gonna
actually
fund
it
with
fun,
balance,
Capital
balance
and
just
say
we're
funding.
It
don't
say
we're
only
going
to
fund
it.
The
300
000,
when
we're
proposing
to
give
two
hundred
thousand
I
mean
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
put
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
overall
pot.
G
Yeah
so
part
of
what
we
have
to
do
with
the
capital
when
we
present
it
to
the
public.
We
need
to
show
that
the
Capital
Tax
is
expected
to
raise
322
thousand
dollars.
Our
total
Capital
project
list
is
X
number
of
dollars.
We
expect
to
spend
this
x
number
y
number
of
dollars
and
end
up
with
Z
number
of
dollars,
so
we
it's
right
and
that
you
should
show
it
and
we
can
show
it
and
we
do
show
it,
but
it's
not
all
shown
in
that.
O
O
O
G
G
O
G
P
O
G
N
Y
P
Of
them,
mostly
being
the
LDS
church,
storm
Pond,
conversions
right.
We
did
change
the
total
estimate
of
the
total
construction
and
Engineering
for
that
project.
Total
project
costs
and
that's
over
2.1
million
at
this
point.
So
there's
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
we
are
tied
up
and
granted.
Some
of
that's
going
to
be
offset
with
some
grant
funding
that
that
we
have
received
from
a
couple
sources
through
V
Trends,
but
moving
forward.
P
We
are
going
to
be
spending
a
lot
of
that
money
and
spending
a
lot
of
our
time
on
that
one
particular
project
and
there's
a
small,
a
couple
other
ones.
Some
of
the
upwp
projects
we
have
through
Regional
Planning
Commission-
we're
probably
not
going
to
apply
for
many
grants
this
year
through
there
just
to
kind
of
keep
costs
at
a
minimum
or
have
any
of
that
extra
money
that
we
would
need
for
our
matching
funds
for
those
projects
down
to
a
minimum
this
year
to
kind
of
fight
the
bullet
as
well.
P
O
It
makes
a
little
more
sense
now.
I
was
just
when
I
was
reading
it
originally
I
was
like
they're
listing
all
the
this
year's
budget
and
and
money
Revenue,
but
there's
no
there's
no
estimated
expense.
There's
there's
still
no
I
mean
I
understand
now
that
you're
gonna
do
the
other
projects.
But
when
you
look
at
storm
water
construction
projects
where
the
money
comes
in
from
this
year,
there's
no
estimated
expense
until
you
scroll
all
the
way
down
and
see
that
the
total
estimated
expense
this
year
is
235
500.
D
O
P
Specifically
for
the
LDS
church,
we
are
actually
looking
for
additional
grant.
Funding.
Annie
is
pursuing
more
opportunities
with
that.
She's
actually
discussed
it
with
the
their
current
Grant
coordinator
through
v-trans
and
they've
kind
of
advised
us
to
apply
for
additional
funding
as
well.
So
we're
trying
to
exhaust
all
of
our
sources
of
revenue
where
we
can
kind
of
keep
costs
at
a
minimum
or
keep
the
impact
to
our
our
capital
budget
and
minimum.
G
And
just
a
couple
more
thoughts
is
that
yeah,
that
this
is
a
big,
huge
document
and
that's
part
of
what
we
want
to
spend
over
the
next
sometime
over
the
next
year,
really
making
it
a
bit
more,
concise
and
easier
to
read
and
then
just
one
parting
thought.
It
doesn't
necessarily
apply
the
storm
water
here,
but
there
were
years
where
we
don't
spend
we're
saving
up.
You
know
the
Water
Tower
and
the
fort
being
a
good
example
of
we've
got
to
accumulate
that
money
before
we
can
spend
it
all
at
once.
P
P
L
B
X
L
P
N
G
Again,
just
preparing
for
town
meeting
tried
to
put
in
a
list
of
the
the
items
that
we
know
were
going
to
be
on
the
on
the
warning,
whether
that's
at
the
town
meeting
itself
or
on
the
ballots
for
the
continuation
of
town
meeting
and
also
posing
another
couple
of
questions
for
consideration.
As
far
as
the
increase
in
Capital
Tax
and
moving
all
Town
business
to
Australian
ballot,
I
think
the
rest
of
this
stuff
we've
talked
about.
We
always
do
the
reports.
G
G
We
have
the
charter
amendments
that
are
expected,
so
it
can
be
discussion
about
the
charter
amendments.
We
typically
announce
the
officers
that
are
up
for
election
and
then,
if,
depending
on
other
votes,
there
may
be
other
items
to
discuss
or
vote
on,
and
then
we
have
done
a
public
to
be
heard
at
the
end
of
town
meeting
the
past
few
years.
C
L
B
So
there's
there's
we're
not
going
to
a
Community
Neil
before
town
meeting.
So
that's
that's
yes,
sir,
where
that
is
but
then
the
question
is:
should
we
it's
been
proposed
that
we
have
the
town
meeting
at
the
Essex
experience
the
it's
been
quoted
to
us
for
about
a
thousand
dollars
to
to
do
that,
something
that
I
guess
that's
a
question
that
would
be
helpful
to
get
an
answer
to
a
lot
of
folks
feel
about
moving
town
meeting
into
the
town.
L
A
B
G
G
Yeah,
the
high
school
we
were
originally
looking
at
the
high
school.
Still
our
we're
used
to
that.
It's
one
less
thing:
to
try
to
do
differently
this
year.
They
have
the
auditorium
set
up:
we've
done
the
AV
there
there's
no
Community
dinner.
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
we
were
looking
at
the
high
school,
primarily
as
well,
but
since
that
that's
not
available
that
takes
away
that
as
an
option.
The
S6
experience
with
the
theater
is
having
the
tape
or
the
chairs
set
up
stage
in
place.
L
O
B
A
B
D
O
B
L
O
B
B
A
O
L
Well,
personally,
it'd
be
easier
for
the
seniors
to
get
to
the
theater,
because
it's
that
whole
senior
area-
and
there
are
majority
of
people
that
actually
come
out-
we
buff
them
meeting
it'd-
be
easier
to
bus
them
to
the
theater
than
it
is
to
bring
them
out
here.
You
can
make
more
trips
I
personally
think
it
should
be.
The
town
of
Essex
town
meeting
should
be
in
the
town
of
Essex.
S
L
O
O
L
O
O
G
B
O
W
W
I
want
to
warn
you
that
the
the
audio
visual
component
was
dicey,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
provide
our
own,
maybe
with
Channel
17,
because
yeah
what
went
on
there
was
not
good
I'm,
not
committing
you
but
yeah.
It
was
a
problem,
although
the
venue
was
excellent,
was
very
big,
a
little
theater
that
we
had
for
the
yeah
show
and
tell
that
we
did
remember
the
committee
show
and
tell
that
we
did
that
little
thing
might
be
big
enough.
I,
don't
know
you
have
to
sort
of
estimate
your
numbers
only.
W
B
A
H
R
I
definitely
support
being
in
the
town
and
not
in
the
city.
But
given
that
especially
it's
our
first
kind
of
big
change
and
then
I
have
been
to
a
number
of
events
at
the
bigger
theater
and
there's
never
been
an
issue
with
sound.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
had
to
do
with
the
people
who
held
the
debate
and
who
ran
the
audio
for
that.
But
I
would
definitely
want
to
know
ahead
of
time.
Yeah.
B
G
B
B
B
G
G
L
B
So
so
the
way
that
we
we
change,
that
a
number
of
times
recently
was
eight
cents
when
I
first
got
on
the
board
and
as
we
were
talking
about
merger
merger
discussion,
I
can
move
closer
to
the
microphone,
we're
talking
about
pressure
discussions.
We
negotiated
away
pieces
of
it
and
it
was
voted
on
as
part
of
the
budget.
So
all
the
numbers
associated
with
the
highway
tax
were
included
in
the
budget.
B
Was
in
that
regard
it
was
voted
by
the
public,
sometimes
from
the
floor.
All
right,
the
the
the
rate
was
was
approved
there.
So
I
think
that
if
we
want
to
bring
back
the
highway
tax,
we
would
have
to
propose
within
our
budget
adding
the
highway
tax
back
in
and
yeah.
You
could
use
that
for
highway
highway.
Capital.
That's.
L
G
N
B
T
B
L
G
Is
that
it's
a
tiny
bit
more
than
what
we're
used
to
getting,
but
it's
basically
just
to
replenish
what
we've
lost
right
and
that's
part
of,
as
we
talked
about
trying
to
spend
some
more
time
on
the
capital
budget
over
the
coming
year
and
fleshing
out
you
know,
what's
the
replacement
schedule,
look
like
what
are
some
of
your
needs?
What
are
those
storm
water
expectations
that
hopefully,
a
year
from
now,
will
have
a
better
sense
of
just
three
and
a
half
cents
is
two
cents?
Is
it
hopefully
underfunding?
Is
it
just
about
right?
G
Is
it
you
know
close
to?
What's
right,
we
don't
know
what
the
reappraisal
is
going
to
come
back
at.
We
don't
it's
going
to
be
about
two
years,
two
and
a
half
years
before
we
have
that
number.
We'll
have
a
better
sense,
then
of
exactly
what
that's
going
to
result
in
to
some
of
the
conversation
earlier.
We
can
get
by
this
year
with
the
two
cent
Capital,
generating
that
320
000.
G
G
L
G
D
O
G
Mean
the
the
cleanup
is
being
proposed.
Is
that
one
section
from
the
town
attorney
for
a
section?
That's
not
relevant
anymore
agree.
He
agreed,
he
felt
it
was.
He
was
comfortable
with
that
being
as
part
of
the
reorganization
of
the
charter.
I.
Think,
if
you
do
it
the
conversation
from
a
few
weeks
ago,
a
general
cleanup
becomes
what
what's
a
general
cleanup.
What's
a
clarification.
G
T
B
C
B
B
N
B
G
D
B
B
B
B
So
I
agree
that
both
of
these
questions
need
to
be
on
there.
My
question
is
whether
it's
three
three
and
a
half
sensors
again
in
the
spirit
of
all
the
other
things
we've
done
tonight,
you
can
put
what's
in
the
proposal
and
see
if
we
get
a
response,
but
if
we're
not,
if
there's
no
path
or
response,
it's
like
three
and
a
half
cents
see
it
now,
because
we
didn't
expect.
D
AA
I
haven't
heard
anybody
talk
about
fire
equipment
and
the
Fire
Equipment.
Some
of
it
does
come
out
of
the
capital
budget.
That
is
there
now,
because,
what's
transferred
from
operating
to
Capital
on
behalf
of
the
fire
budget
is
grossly
underfunded
and
the
price
of
fire
trucks
has
at
least
for
an
aerial
truck,
has
doubled
in
two
years
ladder,
trucks
or
aerial
trucks.
Now,
like
the
one
that
the
city
has
they
paid
around
800
a
little
over
800
000
for
it,
that's
1.6
million.
T
AA
AA
AA
B
All
right
so
consensus
that
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
go
forward.
Those
two
questions-
analyze,
language
and
I,
just
understand
whether
we
need
to
do
hearings
on
either
one
and
then
yeah
I
was
thinking
like
I
I
kind
of
think
that
the
since
we're
supposed
to
be
promote,
for
you
know,
providing
a
five-year
Capital
plan
that
we
should
include
information
about
increase.
V
O
A
A
T
B
B
L
Would
because
we
haven't
met
since
that
big
storm
would
love
to
thank
the
whole
Public
Works
down
through
everybody
that
kept
this
town
moving
through
that
horrendous
storm.
It
was
truly
appreciated
all
their
work
and
over
the
holidays
and
I
just
would
like
to
extend
our
thanks
to
them
to
the
fire
department
that
opened
their
doors
and
everybody.
It
was.
O
To
add
to
that
and
reiterate
all
of
what
Don
said
and
think
the
amazing
community
that
we
have
because
I
watched
a
tremendous
amount
of
outpour
from
Community
to
community
members
on
Facebook
on
front
porch,
Forum
me
personally
with
a
bunch
of
people
that
I
congregate
with
all
the
time.
It
was
just
amazing
to
lose
power
for
a
few
days
and
have
everybody
come
together
and
enjoy
the
holidays
like
they
did
because
it
was.
It
was
I
hate
to
say
it
was
fun,
but
it
was
kind
of
fun.
Maybe
we
should
do
it.