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Tree Farm Management 00:04:44
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A
B
A
Pass
three
zero
with
the
one
Obsession.
Thank
you
so
now,
that'll
bring
us
into
public
to
be
heard.
So
this
is
the
portion
of
tonight's
meeting
where,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
bring
something
to
the
agenda
of
both
of
our
boards,
now
is
the
time
to
do
so.
For
those
of
you
who
are
using
Zoom,
please
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
I'll,
make
sure
to
give
you
time
for
those
of
you
here
in
the
room.
A
C
A
D
A
E
E
F
Brad
captured
well
I
would
just
clarify
one
little
Nuance
at
the
select
board,
isn't
necessarily
looking
at
targeting
third
party
management
as
the
end
result
of
the
lease
not
opposed
to
that
I
wanted
to
have
the
conversation.
The
select
board
and
staff
brought
it
up.
Select
board
agreed
to
have
that
conversation
about
what
that
result
looks
like
they
no
longer
think
it
should
absolutely
be
ending
in
Municipal
management
at
the
end
of
the
four-year
lease
extension
part
of
it
is
looking
at
the
mou.
F
That's
in
place,
that's
been
extended
that
talks
about
having
that
third
party
management
as
the
oversight
for
management
for
the
tree
farm,
so
I
think
that's
part
of
what
the
conversation
is
tonight
is
to
figure
out.
If
that
mou
and
the
intent
of
that
mou
is
still
in
place
and
the
end
result,
we
did
try
to
look
into
the
the
municipal
management
having
some
challenges
there,
just
exactly
of
what
that
would
look
like
so
before
we
went
too
far
down
that
road.
F
The
select
board
wanted
to
have
the
conversation
tonight,
but
the
city
council
about
how
to
end
that.
What
what
that
leash
looks
like
at
the
end
of
that
four
years
and
I
think
that
captures
it,
but
I
would
look
to
the
select
board
members
because
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
speak
for
any
of
them.
This
is
just
relaying
what
has
been
discussed
in
the
past.
A
So
with
that
what
we
had
so
in
terms
of
the
forum
for
the
rest
of
this
part
of
the
conversation
given
that
this
is
a
a
multi-party
agreement,
multi-party
contract
looking
to
have
the
conversation
between
our
boards
with
an
executive
session.
So
that
way
we
don't
have
another
party
be
a
pretty
to
that
conversation,
and
so
as
such,
we
would
have
that
in
executive
session.
So
to
do
things
a
little
differently.
A
G
A
G
G
H
C
A
J
I
just
trying
to
think
this
through
I'm,
not
saying
one
way
or
the
other.
The
mou
dictates
whether
we
contract
with
someone
else
and,
and
that
preferred
the
only
mentioned
entity
that
we
would
contract
with,
is
Chief
tree
farm
management
group.
So
any
results
from
the
mou
just
again,
hadn't
gone
that
far
in
my
head.
Just
trying
to
think
out
loud.
Any
discussion
of
the
mou
would
automatically
impact
how
we
what
we
agree
with
as
far
as
what
ends
up
with
Tree
Farm
Management
Group
in
a
contract.
H
H
H
A
H
E
A
H
M
H
All
of
the
issues
that
we
will,
that
will
come
up
with
regard
to
sharing
responsibility
for
the
municipal
responsibility
for
the
tree
farm
group
and
the
fact
that
the
the
mou
includes
language
in
there.
That
says
that
if
you
want
to
have
this
discussion
with
the
tree
farm
group,
it
needed
to
start
in
2018.,
it's
now
2022.
G
G
And
yet
you
know
satisfy
our
need
for
greater
transparency
and
oversight
of
their
operation
and
at
the
same
time
we
would
retain
The
Good
the
good
services
that
they're
providing
the
volunteer
services
that
we
would
have
to
compensate
for
if
they
left.
So
my
understanding
was
that
was
kind
of
the
concept
of
behind
the
four-year
agreement.
But
maybe
maybe
my
memory
isn't
serving
me
well
so
I'm
looking
to
you
Andy
and.
G
H
Again,
I
can
comment
on
a
couple
things
there.
One
is
that
there
was
we
had
seen
from
from
The
Village
at
the
time
that
a
proposal
that
included
in
this
year,
we
will
take
over
the
control
of
the
finances
and
this
year
we
will
do
this,
and
this
year
we
will
do
that.
So
that
was
a
takeover
plan,
not
any
evaluation
plan.
H
J
Let's
clarified
too,
when
we
did
talk
the
impression
that
this
The
Village
trustees
had
as
that,
as
we
approached
that
motion
the
poop
is
that
it
would
be
three
years
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
the
select
board
motion
for
four
and
we
were
stuck
either
blowing
it
up
or
agreeing
to
the
floor.
So
in
so.
B
C
H
H
J
J
He
was
very
capable
of
running
that
public
parcel
for
The,
Entity,
so
I
think
hearing
what
you're
saying
about
the
town
not
being
in
a
position
right
now
to
take
that
on
is
one
thing
but
I
think
to
to
move
towards
a
question
of
whether
that's
going
to
be
municipally,
managed
or
managed
by
a
third
party
is
something
I.
Think
for
me
needs
to
be
decided
first
before
we
talk
about
length
of
any
contract
that
might
come.
C
A
L
L
Reading
the
room,
I
I
felt
that
if
it
was
three
years
the
select
board
would
not
have
passed
it
and
I
preferred
to
go
with
four
years
rather
than
the
select
board
voting
it
down
so
that
we
actually
had
a
path
forward.
A
lot
has
changed
since
November.
You
are
now
a
city
at
the
time.
We
also
felt
that
we
would
have
an
agreement
as
part
of
Separation
that
would
govern
the
tree
farm.
We
do
not.
This
gives
us
would
allow
us
some
assurances
to
have
open
financials
transparency
in
that
matter.
L
Public
meetings,
public
participation
in
meetings,
things
of
that
sort,
while
also
adding
Runway
to
our
timeline,
because
December
is
coming
up
pretty
quickly.
So
it
would
allow
us
to
enter
into
a
planning
mode
to
have
those
conversations
Raj
like
you're
talking
about
what
is
our
vision?
Where
do
we
want
to
go?
How
do
we
get
there?
L
A
D
A
L
And
to
be
clear,
the
the
intent
back
in
November
was
go.
Work
on
this
agreement
here
are
sort
of
the
guide
rails,
guardrails
bring
it
back
to
us,
so
that
then
we
have
something
to
discuss.
Quite
frankly,
that
didn't
happen,
which
we
had
started
conversations
back
in
May
to
try
and
reinvigorate
those
conversations.
L
I
K
I
A
H
H
While
for
sure
right
and
as
as
Tracy
said,
the
intent
of
a
four-month
extension
that
we
did
provide
was
that
we
would
work
out
how
all
that
was
going
to
happen.
We
asked
we
did
ask
for
a
joint
meeting
many
months
ago,
and
this
is
the
first
opportunity
we've
had
to
get
together,
and
so
you
know
we're
pretty
close
to
Outer
Runway.
Here.
A
A
A
G
At
this
point,
I
I
don't
know
that
I'm
entirely
clear.
I
know
that
I
know
where
we
are
I
might
be
the
only
person
but
I'm
not
sure.
Are
we
saying
that
we're
where,
where
we
are
and
where
we're
comfortable
with,
is
with
the
four-year
continuing
with
the
motion
that,
with
the
motion,
we
agreed
to
last
November
to
end
the
contract
four
more
years
and
at
the
end
we
would
possibly
have
Municipal
takeover
or
possibly
not.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
or
is
there
I'm,
not
quite
understanding.
G
H
H
C
G
Don't
think
I,
I
and
I
said
I
and
and
Trace,
and
thanks
for
correcting
me
I
couldn't
tell
if
it
was
you
or
me
who
did
the
four
year
thing
and
you
were
right.
I
was
trying
to
read
the
room
as
well,
but
I
as
I
said,
I
I
would
look
at
to
see
if
we
couldn't
come
to
a
a
three,
a
tripartite
agreement
at
the
end
of
four
years,
that
we
would
then
have
Municipal
takeover
of
the
facility.
H
To
to
be
clear
on
something
that
we're
not
we're
not
saying
absolutely,
no,
we
might
not
take
it
over
we're.
Just
not
sure
it's
it's.
It's
still
a
possibility
right
absolutely,
but
it's
not
a
okay.
It
sounds
to
me
like
Andrew
was
saying
that
the
city
says
we
absolutely
want
to
take
it
over,
and
the
select
word
is
saying:
well,
we
want
to
work
on
the
issues
that
are
there.
We
want
to
understand
what
it
really
means
to
us.
We
kind
of
take
the
time
that
we
need
to
understand
what
it's
by.
D
J
The
initial
you
know
we're
coming
back
to
that
initial
resolution.
The
initial
resolution
did
include
Municipal
management
at
the
end,
with
the
formation
of
a
business
plan
and
a
transition
plan.
The
resolution,
the
original
resolution
after
our
discussion
that
we
were
talking
about
was
it
three
years
was
it
four
years.
The
original
resolution
appears
to
read
that
the
select
board
offer
a
lease
agreement
to
the
tree
farm
management
group
for
four
years
and
that
Essex
Parks
and
Recreation
Essex
Junction,
Recreation
and
Parks
assume
the
management
of
the
tree
farm
facility
they're.
J
After
with
the
understanding
that
the
lease
agreement
would
need
to
be
developed
with
that
transition
plan
and
business
plan,
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
coming
up
with
a
business
plan
for
how
that
would
actually
look.
Okay,
there
was
some
public
comment
and
question
as
to
whether
egrp
could
actually
and
epr
could
manage
that,
but.
J
J
K
A
B
A
M
A
L
C
L
Select
board
stances,
we
don't
know
it
could
be,
it
could
not
be,
but
that's
what
that
Runway
gives
us
time
to
have
these
conversations
in
plan
four
one
way
or
the
other.
So
just
a
minor
clarification
I!
Don't
want
you
to
think
that
we're
absolutely!
No!
We
don't
want.
You
know
Municipal
management,
it's
just
that
many
things
have
changed
and
we
would
just
like
some,
like
I,
said
some
Runway
to
to
think
about
it
and
have
these
discussions
collaboratively
to
identify.
I
A
Is
from
the
city
council
without
having
to
become
a
basically
managed
Endeavor
and
the
response
was
out
there
we're
not
trying
to
rush
anything
or
make
that
faster,
but
rather
we're
trying
to
maintain
that
end.
Goal
of
the
end
goal
is
to
have
this
VA
municipally
maintained,
Park
entity
just
like
every
other
park,
within
both
the
town
of
the
city
in
four
years,
pretty
soon
to
that's
what
the
original
intent.
So
what
the
original
motion
was.
H
So
there
was
a
it
was
a
proposed
schedule
which
I
don't
think.
Is
it
wasn't
clear?
I
didn't
see
it
in
the
packet
here,
I,
don't
think
it's
in
there
anything
that
I'm,
just
not
in
there
that
the
one
that
said
you
know
Financial
takeover
this
state,
but
you
know
it
was.
There
was
a.
There
was
a
schedule
that
was
proposed
and
the
the
rate
at
that
which
that
schedule
was
moved
is
set
in
that
proposal
against
I,
guess,
I.
Think
it's
in
the
packet
yeah.
H
N
I
The
end
of
the
22
season,
the
tree
farm,
would
end
over
all
physical
and
financial
assets,
municipalities
and
it
says
1
123,
which
will
be
this
coming.
January
Miss
value,
stuff
sure
if
it's
episcopy
the
property,
all
revenues,
expenses
really
into
tree
farm
it'll
be
managed
by
municipalities
as
well
as
directed
by
Tree
Farm
until
12
31
23.,
which
would
be
the
coming.
J
I
A
A
B
A
H
Opinion
my
my
thought
is
that
we
owe
them
four
years
of
notice,
because
that
was
the
intent
of
the
mou
and
you
know
us
bringing
it
up.
Late
I
mean
it's
like
it's
like
I
have
a
contract
with
Greg
Duggan
over
there
I
miss
one
of
the
one
of
the
dates
that
I
have
in
it.
And
it's
you
know
it's
not
his
fault.
Yeah.
A
G
I
G
A
H
I
B
A
D
C
B
A
C
J
H
H
E
J
B
A
B
B
H
H
A
C
H
F
Just
a
suggestion
for
tonight
I
mean
this
is
obviously
yeah.
This
is
the
draft
public
account
staff
significantly
changed
there
alley,
but
we've
been
wrong,
but
the
big
question
for
us
has
been
a
sap
that
the
stimulation
is
about
third
party
degree.
If
that
intent
still
hold
it
don't
sounds
like
it
is
probably
not
going
to
be
an
answer
to
that
tonight,
possible
suggestion.
Is
it
worth
getting
into
present
your
session
later
on
tonight?
F
A
Absolutely
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
the
path
that
the
boards
were
okay
taken
before
we
did
that
Crossing
anything
different
online
either.
So
if
we
do
that,
then
what
we
can
do
is
take
a
public
comment
on
the
topic.
If
you're,
okay,
with
it,
take
public
comment
on
the
topic
and
then
our
next
agenda,
vitamin
is
also
an
executive
session.
H
A
A
D
D
That
again,
okay,
I,
remember
last
November
when
this
vote
happened
and
it
was
a
unanimous
vote
and
after
the
vote
you
said
you
were
going
to
get
together
so
that
you
could
make
a
list
of
objective
criteria
for
the
evaluation
of
the
chief
farm
management
group,
so
that
you
would
know
you
could
say
yes
they're
doing
a
great
job
or
well.
This
is
what
you
did
wrong,
because
you
had
to
give
them
information
for
why
you
were
not
going
to
continue
their
contract
and
that's
what
I
remember
about
that.
D
D
K
A
I
J
Just
one
comment:
the
construction
site
at
195,
197
Pearl.
If
we
could
make
another
reminder,
I
think
they
got
a
formal
letter
reminder
if
we
could
make
another
reminder
to
not
block
the
sidewalk,
it's
one
of
our
busiest
roads
with
no
other
options
for
pedestrians,
cyclist,
wheelchair
strollers
that
has
been
blocked
every
morning
this
week
for
periods
of
time.
It
would
be
great
if
they
need
to
make
deliveries
and
do
other
things
for
more
than
a
couple
minutes,
but
they
arrange
for
whatever
they
need
to
arrange
to
safely
close
the
lane.
J
B
H
A
A
G
Yeah
I
know
our
new
manager
is
looking
for
stuff
to
do
so.
I
want
to
give
her
a
couple
of
things,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
not
right
away,
but
sometime
on
an
upcoming
tip
agenda,
two
issues,
one
to
begin
the
conversation
of
how
what
we're
gonna
do
with
the
public
works
department
and
replacing
or
renovating,
or
whatever
we're
going
to
do
with
that.
G
Building
I
would
like
to
begin
to
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
about
how
we're
going
to
approach
that,
particularly
with
the
budget
season
coming
up
and
number,
two
I
would
like
to
have
a
an
architect's
report
about
this
building
and
get
us
back
on
track
for
the
renovation
of
Lincoln
Hall
I'd
like
to
start
with,
with
again
to
go
back
and
John
have
John
alden's
report
about
the
space
needs
in
this
building
and
potentially,
hopefully
with
John
coming
here,
so
we
can
discuss
it
with
him
yeah.
Thank
you.
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B
B
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B
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N
I
Got
one
here
you
got
it
I,
don't
have
those
I
think
it's
really
one.
It's
in
the
back
all
right!
Okay,
let
me
see.
Let
me
just
make
sure
that
the
slack
board
enter
executive
session
to
discuss
the
negotiating
or
securing
a
real
estate
purchase
or
lease
options
in
accordance
with
one
VSA
section
313
A2,
and
to
include
the
town
manager,
Deputy,
Town
manager,
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
city
council,
city
manager,
director
of
best
Junction
correction,
Recreation
and
Parks.