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A
For
Monday
May
1st
2023
to
order
are
there
any
addition
agenda
additions
or
changes
from
staff
done
from
staff
any
from
board
members?
No
okay!
So
let's
move
on
to
public
to
be
heard
public
to
be
heard
is
a
time
when
those
attending
the
meeting
can
address
the
select
board
on
Town
business.
It's
not
on
the
agenda.
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you'd
like
to
speak
during
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heard,
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A
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If
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If
you're
on
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phone
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you
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to
speak.
If
you
don't
have
access
to
the
raise
your
hand,
button
are
there
any
anybody
would
like
to
speak
during
public
to
be
heard.
A
They
not
seeing
No
Hands.
Let's
move
on
to
the
first
order
business,
which
is
interview
volunteer
to
serve
as
the
Green
Mountain
Transit
representative
for
Essex
Paul,
come
on
up.
Introduce
yourself
give
us
any
background,
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
and
the
information
you
might
like
to
or
that
they
teach
the
board
would
consider
in
the.
A
B
B
and
I-
did
several
interim
manager.
Ships
after
that
twice
in
Richmond
and
I
did
Green
Mountain
transit
for
six
months,
so
I
enjoyed
that
that
work.
That
was,
that
was
very
interesting
work
and
certainly,
as
a
town
manager,
I
got
the
chance
to
sit
as
an
author
and
mostly
on
various
boards
and
commissions.
So
that
was
a
good
experience
as
well.
B
I
moved
to
Essex
Junction
Marty
Powers
was
your
representative
and
I
became
the
alternate,
and
about
a
year
after
that,
Marty
decided
she
was
getting
ready
to
retire.
So
she
asked
me
if
I
would
apply
for
the
position
of
and
she
would
she
would
take
the
the
alternate
position
if
I've
become
representative,
so
I
agreed
to
do
that.
She
was
chairman
of
the
chairwoman.
I
guess
you
would
say
these
days
of
the
finance
committee
for
Green
Mountain
Transit
I
was
on
the
finance
committee
and
she
decided
she
would
step
down
from
chairmanship.
B
So
I've
been
chair
of
the
finance
committee
now
for
about
five
years,
so
I
enjoy
working
with
Green
Mountain
Transit,
it's
a
very
valuable
service
provided
not
only
to
Chittenden
County
but
in
the
north
Northwestern
part
of
Vermont,
and
so
it's
a
it's
an
organization
that
is
going
through
some
some
time
troubled
times.
Financially,
it's
a
difficult
organization
to
keep
afloat
financially,
but
I
see
that
from
the
inside,
and
you
know
we
we
continue
to
provide
the
best
service.
B
C
B
I,
don't
think
so
Kendall
when
you
think
about
serving
on
a
board
like
Green,
Mountain
Transit,
but
first
of
all,
it's
it's
legal.
It's
okay
to
have
a
representative,
not
within
the
community
that
you
that
you
live
well.
You
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
to
a
board
like
Green,
Mountain
Transit,
so
which
means
you're
doing
the
best
you
can
to
do
the
best
for
your
organization.
That's
that's
number
one.
B
Obviously
you
represent
your
your
community
and
try
to
make
sure
the
service
that's
being
provided
is
the
most
that
we
can
provide
for
the
best
service.
That's
possible,
but
I
think
when
you
look
at
it
from
a
holistic
point
of
view,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
any
conflict
or
any
reason
why
I
wouldn't
serve
the
town
of
Essex,
just
just
fine
from
living
on
Beach
Street.
A
B
B
B
A
B
Be
it'd
be
great
to
have
a
rep
for
a
couple
reasons.
One
is
the
rep,
even
though
they
can't
vote
at
board
meetings.
They're
they're
they're
really
encouraged
to
participate,
serve
on
committees
and
get
to
learn
as
much
as
they
can
about
the
organization
and
certainly,
if,
if
I'm
the
rep
not
able
to
attend,
then
they
are
able
to
step
in
and
voice
in
and
vote.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
good
way
to
get
in
and
learn
about.
Green
Mountain,
Transit.
A
B
Month,
but
if
you
get
active,
there
are
several
standing
committees,
because
Finance
I
mentioned
we
have
one
leadership,
which
is
like
an
executive
committee
and
we
have
an
operations
committee
and
then
we
have
a
strategy
committee
as
well.
So
if
people
have
interest
in
any
of
those
you
might
use
that
gives
them
another
opportunity
to
serve.
A
E
A
F
Paul
believe
your
the
term
ends
on
June
30th
right,
that's
correct,
okay,
so
we're
just
so.
You
know,
scheduling
wise
we're
planning
to
do
interviews
for
all
the
potential
boards
and
committees
over
the
next
couple
months.
So
you
may
not
hear
from
us
for
a
couple
months,
but
we
will
be
in
touch
one
way
or
another
great
thanks
all
right.
Thanks,
Paul.
A
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
next
agenda
item
interview,
volunteers
to
serve
as
the
Essex
Free
Library
Board
of
Trustees,
we
have
three
candidates:
are
they
all
present
I,
don't
see:
John,
Alan,
Allen
and
Emily?
Okay,
great
so
before
we
start
I
need
to
disclose
a
potential
conflict
of
interest.
My
wife
is:
is
a
member
of
the
Board
of
Trustees,
the
library
I
intend
to
participate
in
the
interviews
and
the
discussion
and
the
voting
I.
Don't
even
though
it's
it's
probably
highly
beneficial
for
me
to
keep
my
wife
happy
I.
A
Think
I
can
make
a
decision
for
the
best
interest
of
the
town.
In
spite
of
that
risk
so
see
if
I
don't
see
Jones.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
start
with
Alan.
Is
your
next
on
the
on
the
agenda
so
come
on
up,
introduce
yourself
Ellis
what
your
background
is
or
what
any
information
you'd
like
to
share
with
us.
That
might
don't
judge
the
microphone
to
help
us
assess
whether
or
not
to
appoint
you.
G
Well,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Alan
Ramsey
I'm,
a
family
physician,
I've
lived
in
Essex
town
for
over
40
40
for
42
years
and
I
decided
to
apply
to
be
a
member
of
the
board
for
Essex
free
library,
because
I've
always
felt
like
community
service
is
the
way
to
give
back,
particularly
to
those
organizations
that
a
person
feels
very
passionate
about
in
the
Essex.
Free
library
has
made
my
life
better
over
the
last
several
years,
and
so
I
want
to
give
back
a
little
bit
more
about
myself.
G
I
I've
been
particularly
intrigued.
After
reviewing
the
Strategic
plan
that
was
developed
for
the
Free
Library
and
the
survey
that
was
done
in
2019
at
town
meeting
about
the
interest
in
ways
that
the
library
can
support
seniors
in
our
community,
I
mean
just
in
the
last
few
years,
we've
seen
Mansfield
Place,
we've
seen
maple
tree
place
to
a
senior
assisted
living
facilities
grow
in
our
community,
and
so
that's
kind
of
an
area
of
interest
of
mine
is
to
figure
out
ways
to
really
support
our
seniors
as
they
age
successfully
at
home.
C
G
He
had
to
trust
like
we
trust
every
day
he
could
lend
out
books,
particularly
to
socioeconomically,
comprised
individuals
who
never
had
access
to
books
and
they
would
bring
them
back,
and
so
that's
my
namesake
I,
don't
know
that
there's
any
real
relationship
other
than
the
fact
that
my
mother
and
father
knew
something
about
this
Legacy.
So
I
I
don't
miss
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
that.
I
G
Know
takes
advantage
of
having
a
physician
on
the
community
board
when
decisions
have
to
be
made
during
difficult
times
like
the
pandemic.
Thankfully
we're
through
that.
We
hope
we
well
we're
pretty
sure
we're
through
it,
but
I
think
that
my
experience
and
knowledge
around
community
service
would
be
a
bone
to
the
Essex
Free
Library,
whether
it's
budgeting,
fundraising
I,
know
how
to
do
that
strategic
planning
things
that
you
know
always
come
into
play
on
a
on
a
community
board.
E
B
G
G
So
that's
that's
kind
of
my
my
interest
and-
and
a
lot
has
happened
in
the
last
few
years
to
make
to
do
that.
New
programs
have
developed
at
Essex
Free
Library,
but
there
are
always
opportunities
that
age
well,
we're
best
known
for
Meals.
On
Wheels
we
delivered
2,
000
meals,
a
day
to
our
four
County
coverage
area,
that's
Outreach,
and,
and
so,
and
we
do
more
in
terms
of
how
we
you
know
again,
there
are
always
constraints.
G
G
I
would
be
there
to
learn
and
listen
and
maybe
think
about
some
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
over
my
career.
I
I
was
the
medical
director
at
Green,
Mountain,
Nursing
Home
in
Colchester
for
10
years,
and,
and
it
took
me
a
few
years
to
really
understand
how
to
make
the
lives
better
of
people
that
really
were
in
fully
assisted
dependent
living
situations.
Most
of
them
not
wanting
to
a
lot
of
not
wanting
to
be
there.
But
we
were
able
to
find
little
things
that
we
could
do
to
improve
their
lives.
G
I
G
I,
like
you
know,
I
again,
I
I
would
just
be
a
learner
and
and
maybe
use
some
of
my
background
to
provide
leadership
of
the
of
the
library
with
ideas.
Some
of
them
could
be
implemented.
Many
of
them
probably
not,
and
we're
not
going
to
have
a
van.
You
know
driving
around
Essex.
You
know
that
I
based
on
the
budget,
I've
reviewed
some
of
the
budgetary
issues
of
Essex
Free
Library
I
mean
it's
amazing.
What
they
accomplish
in
in
terms
of
their
budget
compared
to
our
other
comparative
libraries
I
mean
it's.
G
A
G
Know
I
I
didn't
know
the
details.
The
Board
of
Trustees
itself
I
know
is
a
governance
board
and
it
you
know
so
it
has
policy.
It
makes
policy.
I
I,
understood
that
in
terms
of
the
philanthropic
arm
or
the
fundraising
arm,
I
wasn't
exactly
sure
how
they
do
how
the
two
Blended
together.
So
that's
good
for
me
to
know,
because
you
know
that's
an
interest
of
mine
I'm
asking
for
money
when,
when
you're
dealing
with
something
you
feel
passionate
about
is
not
hard.
G
A
lot
of
people,
think
oh,
you
get
on
a
board
and
you
got
to
go
eat
the
bushes
and,
if
you're
on
a
board
or
an
organization
like
agewell
I,
feel
very
strongly
about
the
services
that
agewell
provides
that
keep
people
safe
at
home
and
have
them
eat.
Well,
okay,
so
that's
the
way
I
feel
about
fundraising
whether
you
know
these
two.
What
what
how
the
two
boards
you
know,
intermingle
or
interact
I
you
know
I
would
leave
that
to
you
all,
but.
A
Any
other
questions,
okay,
so
we
may
choose
going
to
Executive
session
later
just
to
discuss
the
candidates
we
interviewed
tonight,
but
we,
as
Greg
mentioned,
the
terms
that
are
are
coming
open
or
that
are
being
reconsidered
or
considered
for
appointment.
I
guess
is
the
point
where
to
say
that
our
June
30th
right.
I
A
A
I
A
I
I
I
J
Graduated
twice
but
I
still
am
going
for
fun,
and
you
may
have
heard
that
the
president,
the
ex-resident
of
the
college
retired,
because
he
wanted
to
digitize
all
the
books
in
the
library
and
Johnson
Linden
and
Castleton.
So
we
protested
at
the
stage
and
emailed
it
and
libraries.
You
know
people
need
Library.
J
This
isn't
just
where
you
go
to
talk.
This
is
where
you
go
to
learn
yes
and
get
help
and
that's
what
the
Essex
Free
Library
does
yeah
and
gosh.
As
far
as
the
things
that
Essex
has
the
Essex
free
library
has
for
lending
out,
they
even
have
sewing
machines
or
sewing
machines.
They
have
all
kinds
of
things
for
people
that
need
you
know
they
can't
afford
to
get
like
a
new
sewing
machine
or
you
know
no
shoes.
Something
like
that.
All
of
that
you
know
Andy.
J
You
can
see
by
Caitlyn's
reports
that
it's
doing
very
well
as
far
as
you
know,
the
people
coming
in
and
what
they're
coming
in
for
yeah
so
I,
just
don't
I,
want
to
be
still
part
of
that,
and
I
would
like
to
be
reconsidered
to
be.
You
know,
on
the
board
of
trustee
and
we
have
a
plant
sale
coming
up
in
a
book.
Sale
coming
right
up.
Okay,.
I
J
J
And
we
talk
about
different
things
like,
for
instance,
at
the
last
meeting
yeah.
We
would
like
to
have
some
kind
of
security
things
so
that
if
somebody
comes
in
because
apparently
so,
a
couple
of
people
have
come
in
and
been
a
little
unruly
that
you
could
get
immediate
help,
I
think
that's
very
important.
Okay
right,
we
have
the
craft
show
and
the
bake
sale
as
well.
As
the
you
know,
the
book
and
the
plant
sale.
I
J
J
One
time
I
saw
the
librarian's
choice
several
years
ago
and
I
had
already
picked
out
the
books
I
wanted
now.
I
have
15
bookcases
in
my
house.
Okay
and
I
saw
this
book
and
it
was
a
thick
book
and
I
thought
well.
Gee
do
I
have
time
to
read
that
and
I
took
it
and
then
I
bought
it
and
I've.
Read
it
three
times
this
year
and
I've
told
everybody
about
it,
because
it's
such
a
good
book
and
no
wonder
it
was
the
Librarians
you
know
it
was
before
I
was
on
the
board.
J
J
Books
we've
read
to
our
children:
you
know
right,
show
that
not
everybody
can
tell
people
what
to
their
children
can
read.
Okay,
that's
up
to
the
parents
right
and
I
thought
that
was
really
good.
I
took
a
picture
of
sent
it
to
my
family
yeah,
so
I
think
that
libraries
I've
gone
in
and
had
somebody
help
me
with
my
say
homework
on
the
computer.
J
J
You
you
know:
I
went
to
I,
went
to
a
media
button
club
meeting,
okay
at
the
East,
Middlebury
library
and
I,
said
to
the
librarian.
Have
you
heard
what
they
are
trying
to
do
at
the
state
schools?
Yes,
you
said
so
maybe
you
could
contact
no
I
called
Bernie
and
Bill.
I
know
him.
Okay
and
other
people
and
I
said,
and
she
said
the
Librarians
are
working
for
this
too.
J
J
A
A
A
I
A
K
K
Every
time
that
we
go,
I
have
a
little
bit
about
me.
I've
worked
in
various
non-profit
organizations
over
the
years.
I
just
recently
ended
nine
years
of
working
at
Common
Ground
Center
in
starksboro,
which
is
a
residential
Family,
Camp
and
Retreat
Center
I'm,
stepping
back
to
be
more
of
a
full-time,
not
full-time,
mostly
full-time,
stay-at-home.
Mom
and
I
took
on
a
part-time
mentoring
coordinator
position
at
Robinson
school,
which
is
in
starksboro
school
I,
used
to
teach
that
so
I
was
a
phys
ed
teacher
for
many
years.
K
I
worked
for
the
South
Burlington
rec
department
for
10
years
and
then
at
Robinson
school
for
a
number
of
years
and
then
landed
at
Common,
Ground,
Center
and
here
I
am
so
yeah
I
I
love
serving
on
boards
I
also
serve
on
a
board.
The
camp
exclamation
point
board,
which
is
a
one
week,
residential
camp
for
Rural,
Vermont
kids,
who
would
otherwise
never
have
an
opportunity
to
go
to
Camp
everyone's
on
everyone,
volunteers
for
the
week
to
put
on
a
week
of
camp
or
about
100
Kids.
K
K
She
said
something
to
the
effect
of
librarians
are
not
very
good
at
tooting,
their
own
horn
or
like
being
out
there
and
telling
people
what's
happening
and
I
very
much
like
to
be
out
there
telling
people
what's
happening,
and
so,
if
I
can
help
them
get
the
word
out
about
all
the
great
resources
that
they
have
and
bring
more
families
in,
and
adults
and
seniors.
And
everybody
then
I
would
love
to
help
them
with
that.
A
K
When
you
first
walk
in
it's
it's
kind
of
a
jumbled,
here's
some
free
books
here,
some
other
things
and
then
when
I
first
got
there,
I
was
like.
Where
do
I
go
quickly?
Figured
it
out.
You
follow
the
Legos
down
to
the
kids
section
with
my
little
one
but
and
I
didn't
even
know.
There
was
a
third
floor
until
just
recently
after
having
been
there
for
a
year,
so
I
don't
know.
I
K
K
K
And
he
often
likes
to
talk
with
with
Miss
Emily
who's,
the
librarian
there
he
likes
anything
he's
he's
two
and
a
half,
and
everything
in
the
world
is
exciting
to
him.
I
think
you
know
he'll
be
excited
to
join
Lego,
Club
someday
and
some
of
the
other
activities
that
they
they
have
going
on.
We're
just
delving
into
what
opportunities
they
have
I've
always
been
working
full-time,
so
I
haven't
been
able
to
take
him
to
Story
Hour,
but
next
fall
he'll
only
be
in
daycare.
K
Part
time
and
I'll
be
home
with
him
and
we'll
get
to
go
so
I'm
excited
for
that,
but
we're
we're
open
to
any
activities
that
they
want
to
put
on
and
I
come
from
a
programming
background.
Having
worked
with
the
rec
department
and
as
the
program
director
at
Brown,
Center
I
didn't
tell
you
what
I
did
there.
I
was
a
program
director
in
the
facilities
manager
and
so
I'm
I'm
excited.
K
I
K
I
K
I
K
L
It
thank
you
good
evening
select
board
members.
My
name
is
Nick
Martin
I'm,
the
current
chair
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
with
the
town
of
Essex
and
I
have
been
a
resident
of
Essex
since
2014
and
been
in
the
board.
I
want
to
say
five
years,
a
little
over
five
years,
two
years
as
chair
two
years
as
secretary
and
one
year
as
the
add-on
with
an
extra
I
served
briefly
with
our
select
board
Delphia
or
what
maybe
a
couple
years,
I
think
two
yeah
two
years.
L
L
E
B
L
E
A
L
L
I
believe
that
we're
in
discussions
with
with
the
Planning
Commission
that
moving
forward
we're
working
towards
the
drb
merging
the
tube,
the
two
committees
and
one
big
discussion
or
one
item
that
has
come
up
a
lot-
is
either
these
variance
applications
or
conditional
use
applications
for
temporary
rental
units.
So
that's
something
that
the
town
is
in
discussion
in
so
the
r
the
Airbnb
situation.
Town
is
something
a
town
that
needs
some
more
fine-toothed
regulation
about
it.
H
L
Some
of
the
changes
might
include
more
information
about
future
planning
for
the
whole
Community
versus
the
zoning
board,
which
is
site-based
and
so
there's
I
would
say.
Maybe
a
couple
dozen
of
items
that
had
been
changed
and
are
in
discussion
right
now
about
the
zoning
piece
of
it
in
the
regulations,
and
so
some
of
those
are
somewhat
minor.
Some
for
the
discussion
is
definitely
necessary.
A
All
right
so
again,
since
our
your
your
your
term,
is
still
the
end
of
June
we're
going
to
leave
the
the
advertisement
up,
that
the
position
is
being
under
under
consideration
till
that
time.
It's
closer
to
that
time
and
we'll
we'll
be
making
all
of
our
appointments
later
or
probably
in
our
second
meeting
in
June,
we
have
two
meetings
in
June.
M
N
N
N
N
This
past
year
for
fiscal
23,
we've
really
focused
on
our
cost
recovery.
When
pricing,
our
programs
during
co-location,
the
two
departments
did
go
through
a
cost
recovery
project
together,
so
we
have
as
Parks
and
Rec
team
we've
taken
that
project
and
the
initiatives
to
really
start
diving
into
how
we
price
things
is
the
way
we
used
to
price
things,
or
it's
just
kind
of
an
Antiquated
way
of
doing
it.
N
N
N
N
E
N
E
N
N
N
N
N
Great
question,
so
that
line
item
is
in
here
from
when
we
used
to
rent
Sunset
studio
for
programming,
which
was
a
couple
years
ago.
We
no
longer
rent
an
outside
facility
for
General
programming
so,
and
this
is
only
for
so
any
programming
done
at
Sandhill
pool,
is
in
the
pool
operating
budget
that
we
see
in
the
regular
budget
season.
N
H
I
D
N
E
N
Currently,
all
other
special
event
programs
have
been
have
been
paid
for
through
revenue
from
the
program
this
program
fund.
So
like
this
year,
this
current
fiscal
year
we
did
the
ice
out
for
Indian
Brook.
In
hopes
of
that
sort
of
Joe's
Bond
aspect.
We
had
planned
on
fire
and
ice
at
the
Ice
Rinks
at
Foster,
Road
Park.
N
N
The
Halloween,
which
is
has
this
past
year,
was
an
enchanted
walk
at
Indian
Brook.
It
was
basically
like
a
live-action
story,
walk
where
the
little
old
lady
lived
in
the
woods
and
we
went
on
a
walk,
and
so
those
small
events
are
happening
through
this
fund
that
four
thousand
dollars
we've,
never
we've.
Our
department
has
never
had
any
bit
of
that
money
in
the
past
and
so
that'll
be
for
something
larger.
E
C
N
C
N
You
know
we
it's
the
last
year,
just
real
quick
on
that
last
year
was
was
the
first
year
that,
like
everybody,
had
to
get
a
pass,
they
weren't
as
we
used
to
offer
a
one
year
pass
or
a
two-year
pass,
and
so
we
got
through
the
whole
sort
of
grandfathered
in
from
those
who
had
purchased
a
two-year
pass,
and
so
last
year
was
the
first
year
for
everybody
to
purchase
a
pass.
So
we're
going
into
that
again
for
this
year.
So
we'll
have
good
comparisons.
N
N
F
N
I
A
A
P
There
has
been
many
issues
and
curveballs
thrown
at
us.
This
year
we
tried
our
best
to
put
together
a
fair
and
Equitable
budget
or
the
water
rates.
We
had
a
increase
of
12.5
percent
of
budgeted
line
items
which
resulted
in
a
4.74
rate
increase
on
water
pursuer.
We
had
a
overall
14.2
percent
increase
in
budgeted
line
items
with
a
6.28
corresponding
increase
in
rates.
P
There
are
a
number
of
issues
impacting
this
year's
budget,
the
biggest
of
them
being
the
significant
increases
in
treatment
costs
for
both
Water
and
Sewer
for
sampling,
water
district.
They
had
a
wholesale
rate
increase
of
8.89
percent
and
the
city
of
Essex
Junction,
almost
slipped
up
there.
Their
treatment
plant,
their
wholesale
sewer
rate,
was
a
16.8
percent.
P
P
P
I'd
like
to
note
that,
as
I
stated
here
in
the
memo,
the
unaccounted
for
water
and
sewage
rate
calculated
for
the
budget
represents
an
economic
loss
rate,
not
necessarily
a
volumetric
loss
rate
for
both
we
measure
and
well
Champlain
water
and
treatment
plant,
both
we
meter
and
measure,
and
they
bill
us
accordingly
per
the
wholesale
rate.
So
there
is
a
volume
there.
P
We
have
trouble
backing
into
it
with
the
actual
billing
that
we
do
kind
of
bridges
the
year.
So
it's
two
months
to
skew
to
one
side,
but
the
data
we
do
collect
is
all
based
off
of
the
finances.
The
actual
budgeted
or
builds
amounts
for
both
Water
and
Sewer,
and
we
end
up
calculating
the
losses
that
way
in
water.
P
P
In
the
past
we
have
found
a
few
physical
inspections
to
the
system
and
the
big
one
that
I
I
feel
that
will
do.
The
the
greatest
good
to
the
system
is
the
completion
of
the
acoustic
Leak
Detection
survey
that
we
are
really
will
be
in
year.
Three
this
year,
that's
going
to
be
a
big
help
to
us.
Moving
forward
in
the
future,
I
have
been
in
contact
with
our
vendor.
P
That's
been
doing
this
for
us,
we're
looking
at
probably
September
time
frame,
they're
going
to
come
back
and
finish
up.
We
have
about
15
to
20
percent
of
our
system
that
requires
further
investigation
moving
forward.
He
did
discuss
a
couple
alternatives
for
actual
monitoring
of
our
distribution
system.
After
all,
the
survey
has
been
done.
P
P
P
We
did
enter
into
a
service
agreement
with
the
vendor
of
our
scada
system
to
analyze
some
of
the
data
that
is
coming
in.
They
do
this
on
a
daily
basis.
They
take
a
look
at
Trends,
see
if
there's
anomalies
in
the
data
that
they're
collecting
and
they
report
back
to
us
any
issues
or
potential
issues
they
may
see.
Coming.
P
P
P
I
P
P
P
P
P
I
did
raise
it
to
56
44
split
this
year.
Just
due
to
some
of
the
initiatives
we
have
for
certain
water
projects
we're
going
to
be,
and
they
they
were
out
there
last
year
too,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
more
labor-intensive
water
projects
this
year,
which
is
going
to
increase
that
to
56.44
moving
down
to
the
development
of
the
water
rate.
This
year
we
had
a
total
water
budget
of
one
million
six
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
seven.
I
M
K
M
P
So
moving
along
page
eight,
we
have
the
calculation
really
simple.
We
take
the
total
water
budget
and
we
subtract
those
budgeted
revenues
and
we
divide
that
by
the
estimated
daily
usage
multiply
that
by
365
days
and
Magic
come
out
with
a
rate
of
six
dollars
and
18
cents
per
thousand
gallons
again,
there
is
no
there's,
no
we're
not
going
to
be
changing
the
minimum
water
rate
this
year.
We're
going
to
leave
that
at
190
per.
I
P
At
this
point,
sewer
rate,
the
operating
total
operating
budget
was
one
million
913
249
dollars
we'll
be
utilizing.
A
hundred
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
from
un
budgeted
revenues
throw
that
into
our
formula
down
here
at
the
bottom
of
page
nine,
and
we
end
up
with
ten
dollars,
91
cents
per
thousand
gallons.
P
Historically,
we've
used
200,
GPD
gallons
per
day
as
the
average
residential
household
usage
for
water
and
or
sewer
if
you're
connected
to
water,
only
your
existing
yearly
bill
would
be
four
hundred
thirty
dollars
and
seventy
cents.
With
this
rate
change,
your
yearly
annual
bill
will
go
up
for
water
to
451.14.
P
P
P
It's
always
hard
to
kind
of
look
into
the
crystal
ball
to
see
what
other
communities
are
doing
so
or
what
their
rates
are
going
to
be.
These
rates
are
based
off
of
what
was
currently
existing
at
the
time
of
December
2022
I
was
telling
Dan.
Today
it's
kind
of
it's
not
apples
to
oranges.
It's
more
apples
to
apples
but
like
Macintosh
to
Portland.
It's
they're
doing
the
same
thing.
We're
doing
right
now
at
this
point,
but
we've
always
been
middle
of
the
pack.
P
We're
at
six
dollars
and
18
cents
I
think
we're
gonna
find
as
I
go
back
and
fill
in
the
blanks
with
the
rest
of
these
communities
around
us.
We're
going
to
be
around
the
middle
of
the
pack,
or
at
least
the
average.
The
communities
around
us
same
with
the
sewer
rate
we're
on
the
higher
side
of
the
sewer
sewer
rates.
Regionally
we're
just
north
of
the
the
average
retail
rate
of
9.76
with
our
1091.
P
P
H
P
It
could
be.
There
could
be
differing
differing
reasons
why
I
know
both
Dennis
and
I
have
discussed,
with
some
of
the
other
municipalities
around
that
some
don't
take
in
to
as
we
do.
We
we
put
away
close
to
what
three
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
between
water
and
sewer
every
year
for
depreciation
for
asset
replacement.
I
know
there
are
some
communities
around
us
that
don't
put
anywhere
near
that
way.
P
P
H
H
P
We
try
to
notify
Shirley's
pretty
good
about
finding
those
bills
when
people
get
them
they're
like
whoa,
wait
a
minute.
This
isn't
right
indoor.
If
the
meter's
not
working,
though
right
we
do.
We
run
into
those
probably
more
frequently
than
the
weeks,
but
when
we
do
that,
we
will
go
over
we'll
reach
out
to
the
resident.
L
P
Set
up
a
time
we'll
go
over
we'll
do
a
data
log
of
their
meter
see
if
there
is
a
leak,
the
software
we
have.
You
can
actually
see
you
know
when
the
leak,
if
it's
a
continuous
leak,
what
time
the
leak
started,
what
day
the
week
started
and
we'll
help
them,
try
to
find
it,
whether
it
be
on
their
side
or.
E
A
P
E
And
then
my
actual
question
was-
and
this
is
totally
me
learning
here,
but
as
far
as
it
comes
with
the
with
the
new
developments
and
like
when
you
assess
impact
fees
and
stuff,
when
you
make
a
recommendation,
is
that
accounted
for
with
water
and
sewer
and
then
to
follow
up
on
that
part
of
the
question
you
show
it.
An
individual
like
I,
see
I,
see
like
like
new
connections
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be
under
penalties
or
miscellaneous
income.
I
E
P
P
E
It's
no
like
say
you
did
a
like:
there's
a
project
right
and
I.
Don't
and
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
asking
this
right
away,
if
it's
even
the
right
question,
but
if
you
I
did
I,
don't
know
what
the
pine
grass
was
but
say:
there's
a
ten
thousand
dollar
impact
fee
on
I.
Don't
know
if
you
do
water
and
sewer
directly
or
if
it's
public
works
as
a
whole.
Would
you
show
that,
in
in
the
budget
as
like
miscellaneous
income,
or
is
that
would.
M
P
And
every
time
they
you
have
to
fill
out
the
application
you
can
come
in
for
both
Water
and
Sewer
and
we
collect
the
fees
before
you
go
in
and
connect
and
construct
as
developments
get
constructed.
They
build
all
the
infrastructure,
and
then
each
individual
house
comes
in
is
and
applies
for
a
water
and
sewer
connector
and
that
that
money
will
go
into.
E
And
normally
speaking,
the
developer
will
put
in
the
infrastructure.
Yes
and
that's
part
of
the
fee
that
you
would
oh
so
so
is
there
a
burden
on
the
town?
You
know.
Obviously
you
have
so
many
users
that
pay
a
set
rate,
but
at
a
certain
point
you
know
there's
a
capacity
to
what
we're
equipped
to
do
and
then
you
have
to
add
in
a
pump
station
I
guess
that
was
my
the
better
way
to
direct
my
question.
But
is
there
a
fee,
that's
charged
this
fund
the
pump
station
or
is
that
part
of
the
development.
P
P
C
C
If
you're
you're
looking
at
a
one-time
subsidizing
the
rates
to
lower
them
from
what
they
would
actually
be,
we
know
that
it's
very
hard
to
get
Capital
Money,
New,
Capital
Money,
so
I
would
just
like
to
know
what
the
difference
in
the
rate
is
because
I
mean
you're
talking
60
dollars
using
that
revenue.
Is
it
seventy
dollars?
If
you
don't
use
it,
that's
a
negligible
amount
over
a
year
per
customer,
as
opposed
to
pulling
a
hundred
thousand
plus
out
of
your
Capital
funds
that
you
that
you
get
because
it
goes
right
to
Capital
right.
M
Yeah
I,
don't
remember
specifically
the
percentages
before
I
know
they
were
in
the
double
digit
range,
so
it's
it
was
10
to
12
percent
I
believe,
respectively
between
water
and
sewer.
So
the
use
of
this-
this
is
209
000,
actually
being
budgeted
in
in
this
area.
You
know,
has
reduced
those
rates
to
4.74
and
just
over
six
percent
sewer
I.
C
C
If
you
don't
do
this
next
year,
you're
going
to
have
to
find
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
each
department,
plus
whatever
you
need
to
fund
your
department,
so
I
just
think
you're,
better
off
the
polos
unbudgeted
revenues
out
of
the
budget,
just
like
we've
always
done,
keep
them
going
to
Capital
and
just
the
rate
increases
rate
increase,
there's
significant
costs
coming
in
both
the
water
and
the
Wastewater
for
treatment.
You
know
that
it's
coming
in
the
waistline
You've
Got
A
system
that
is
going
to
require
a
lot
of
Maintenance
a
lot
of
projects
going
forward.
C
You
need
the
money.
I
just
think
it's!
It's
not
a
hard
sell
to
get
the
folks
to
pay
that
ten
dollars
extra
over
a
year.
It's
a
whole
year,
I
mean
a
60
increase
in
your
water
and
sewer
bill
over
an
entire
year
five
dollars
a
month,
I
mean
like
to
fill
your
car.
The
gas
goes
up.
You
pay
more
than
that.
One
fill
up
so
to
me,
it's
just
I
would
really
urge
the
board
to
consider
not
using
the
unbudgeted
revenues
for
rate
adjustments.
M
M
M
C
You've
got
to
make
that
up
somehow
you've
either
got
to
cut
the
budget
back
to
keep
your
rate
lower
or
you've
got
to
come
up
with
an
extra
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
Revenue
in
your
department.
I
just
think
you're,
better
off
accounting
for
as
a
capital
voted
towards
the
capital.
Because
then
you
can
see
that
look.
There
is
money,
that's
going
to
the
Capitol
in
addition
to
what
you
have
and
it's
not
lost,
because
you
do
have
a
very
ambitious
Capital
program
coming
up
which
I
support
completely.
C
A
I
M
Yeah,
so
a
penalty,
much
like
for
a
taxpayer,
is
just
for
a
late
payment
on
an
account.
So
you
know
in
the
past
we
haven't
budgeted
for
penalties
and
it's
pretty
common
practice
not
to
do
so,
because
we
don't
really
want
to
incur
penalties,
but
as
life
happens,
people
make
late
payments,
and
so
the
mechanism
for
the
penalty
reinforces
made.
M
Q
A
Q
A
Q
Right
so
I'm
saying
the
town
is
not
losing
money
on
that,
but
resident
or
whoever
pays
for
is
paying
the
penalty,
we're
not
the
town's
not
on
the
hook.
For
that
we
collect
it.
That's
that's
all
I
want
to
know,
that's
that's
neutral
so
and
then
so.
The
other
question
kind
of
bouncing
off
what
Ethan
was
saying
just
to
understand
what
the
developer
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
when
you
say
infrastructure,
what?
What
does
that
mean
exactly
that?
The
developer
generally
pays
for
all
the
infrastructure,
and
then
the
connection
is
what
the
homeowner
pays
for.
Q
Q
You
know
once
a
town
takes
over
when
we're
on
the
hook,
that's
part
of
where
I
get
worried
about
how
much
we
can
handle
as
taxpayers,
because
how
are
we
factoring
that
into
Capital
cost
as
I
look
at
the
capital
budget
and
all
the
things
that
are
coming
up
is
that
are
those
kind
of
upcoming
costs
included
in
a
kind
of
a
connection
fee
or
in
when
a
developer
is
doing
this
and
impact
fees
or
you
know,
are
we
we're
always
Forever
on
the
hook?
The.
A
Not
a
no
that's
a
water
user
or
sewer
user
rate,
it's
not
a
town
tax.
There's
no
Town
tax
there.
It's
only
the
users
of
the
sit
of
these
services
that
pay
for
them
and
it's
included
in
the
water
and
the
sewer
rate.
That's
the
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars,
I
think
for
each
service.
I
think
that
was
referenced
earlier,
as
as
system
stabilization
or
or
depreciation.
Whichever
is
the
right
word
to
use
there.
A
So
there's
there's
a
there's:
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
I
think
budgeted
for
both
water
and
for
sewer
that
is
added
into
the
cost
of
providing
those
services.
That
is,
that
is
included
as
part
of
the
water
and
sewer
rate.
So
part
of
your
water
bill
includes
the
cost
of
replacing
the
water
main
that's
coming
to
your
home
when
it
reaches
end
of
life.
Q
A
Yeah
I
realized
after
I
opened
this
up.
The
public
discussion
I
never
asked
my
questions,
and
that
was
one
of
my
questions.
Right
is
it
yeah,
hydrant
flushing
is
paid
for
by
the
water
users,
and
so,
although
it
benefits
folks
who
are
not
on
the
Water
System,
there's
a
there's,
a
question
that
could
be
asked
there
should
the
cost
of
flushing,
hydrants
or
so
forth,
whether
you
know
or
or
using
you
know,
connecting
to
a
fire
hydrant
to
put
out
a
fire.
A
I
I
Q
That
is
one
of
the
questions
that
I
I'm,
hoping
that's
something
that,
in
in
terms
of
some
of
the
goals
and
keeping
some
of
the
the
user
fees
lowered.
That
to
me
certainly
is
to
look
for
other
Revenue
Service
sources,
and
if
the
public
is
using,
that
I
would
prefer
that
the
public
helps
pay
for
that.
So
and
I
appreciate
your
explanations,
thanks
guys.
A
P
Putting
a
meter
on
a
hydrant
before
you
put
the
hose
on
is
not
gonna
happen.
That's
this
right,
one
more
one
more
thing:
where
seconds
matter
we're
not
going
to
request
that
there
would
likely
be
some
way
to
either
one
of
their
engines,
maybe
I,
don't
know
their
fire
engines
or
pumper
to
estimate
and
or
calculate
how
much
water
goes
through
to
a
flow
meter,
and
that
could
be
in
some
sort
of
report
and
then
paid
for
through
the
general
fund.
I,
don't
know
through
under
the
fire
department.
I,
don't
know.
I
E
Ethan
I'm
gonna,
throw
in
my
two
cents
on
that
topic,
because
I
I
think
the
the
the
opposite,
because
most
rural
fires
are
you
set
up
with
secondary
water
sources
that
are
provided
by
our
local
waterways
and
on
the
flip
clear
that
when
your
well
fails
at
your
house,
you
have
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
media
expense
to
to
fix
it,
and
your
sewer
fails
and
it's
thirty
thousand
dollars.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
cost
Association
to
being
connected
to
Public,
Water
and
Sewer,
and
the
rate
and
the
maintenance
of
the
infrastructure
that
you
don't
take.
E
A
E
E
There's
a
and
this
in
this
conversations
happened
many
times
with
many
people
and
I've
heard
this
conversation
from
the
outside
and
listened
to
the
different.
You
know
understands
of
it,
but
the
very
fine
subject
and
from
somebody
who
paid
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
the
first
year,
I
moved
into
my
house.
You
know
it
was
a
little
more
than
you
know.
A
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
I've
been
good
for
15
years.
A
O
Q
Certainly
because
it's
an
equity
issue,
certainly
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
Ethan,
but
I
would
like
a
study
done
because
certainly
I
think
not
everyone's
having
a
pump
dropped
in
their
water
that
they
probably
don't
have
in
their
backyards,
depending
on
where
they
live.
You
know,
so
it
would
be
good
just
to
at
least
take
a
look
at
it
in
terms
of
shared
cost
and
public
good.
Thanks
for
the
input
guys.
P
I
A
P
P
Capital
budget
and
Five-Year
Plan
will
continue
to
be
presented
and
approved
with
the
operating
budget,
because
it's
the
most
logical
time
to
do
that.
We're
talking
water
and
sewer
and
and
they
both
kind
of
tie
into
each
other.
So
that's
going
to
continue
pound
through
good
resource
management
by
both
finance
and
Public.
Works
has
been
able
to
accumulate
a
cash
Reserve
that
will
assist
in
financing
near-term
work
in
2024
without
impacting
the
user
rates.
P
Also,
with
the
passage
of
the
federal
infrastructure
act,
There's
an
opportunity
to
leverage
some
of
our
funding
that
we
have
in
these
Reserve
accounts
to
position
us.
So
we
can
be
more
eligible
to
jump
on
board
with
some
of
that.
I
have
done
a
fair
bit
of
research
and
communicated
with
some
of
my
peers
regarding
some
of
the
srf
and
infrastructure
funding.
P
Basically
what
the
state
uses
at
this
point
in
time
to
decide
where
a
community
is
eligible
or
eligible
or
not
eligible
for
srf
funding.
Loan
forgiveness
is
based
off
of
the
median
household
income.
The
state
mhi
right
now
is
67
674
a
year
annual.
The
medium
household
income
here
in
Essex
is
eighty
eight
thousand
one.
P
P
The
town
will
still
be
eligible
for
the
step,
one
and
two
Design
Services
and
scoping
with
that.
They're
is
some
subsidy
out
there.
I
was
talking
with
one
of
my
counterparts
at
the
State.
There
may
be
some
loan
forgiveness
there
up
to
50
percent
for
Design
Services,
but
Construction
that
they're
they're
not
going
to
give
us
any
construction
loans
and
or
any
loan
forgiveness.
P
P
P
P
A
P
P
E
I
was
just
curious
as
far
as
to
comparing
not
comparing
anything
but
to
understanding
wood
pump
stations,
especially
I,
know
this
one's
on
a
main.
You
know
considering
a
lot
of
the
pump
positions
that
we
have
are
pumping
out
of
developments.
New
developments
right
I
was
just
curious
on
life
and
life
expectancy,
and
you
know
volume
issues
and
things
like
that.
P
For
the
most
part,
the
stations
are
when
they're,
when
they're,
in
when
they're,
designed
by
the
engineer
and
or
the
developer,
the
capacity
is
designed
into
the
station
at
that
time.
Hopeful
as
growth
occurs.
No
one
knows
how
much
growth
we
will
have
or
what
is
planned
in
the
future
for
the
Town
Center.
A
P
I
C
So
the
350
000
you
mentioned
it
goes
into
Capital
every
year.
Is
that
160
000
in
dollars
from
the
budget
plus
the
unbudgeted
revenue
in
each
department,
the
total
350,
whereas
there
are
additional
capital
contribution,
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
much
you
put
into
the
water
and
sewer
Capital
each
budget.
M
M
So
there
really
isn't
an
official
like
mechanism
that
says
this
is
capital.
Now
it's
kind
of
inherent
you
know
not
like
in
the
operating
fund
where
it's
you
know
a
more
structured
defined
by
the
board
to
say
this
much
is
going
to
certain
areas.
This
is
just
you
know
whether
it
goes
into
our
net
investment
in
capital
assets.
It's
going
to
end
up
in
our
net
position,
so
in
it's
going
to
end
up
as
unrestricted
net
position,
so
that
makes
it
available
for
use
for
these
cap.
C
I
would
just
again
emphasize
that
putting
that
unbudgeted
Revenue
that
currently
isn't
really
shown
anywhere
into
the
capital
every
year.
It's
going
to
get
you
that
much
further
ahead
farther
along
to
build
your
unrestricted
position
back
up
or
at
least
keep
it
even
there
you
go
because
I
assume
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
projects
after
this
capital
program,
sure
that
everything
won't
be
done
at
that
point.
E
M
E
I
M
A
P
P
A
C
Is
there
a
goal
for
the
unrestricted
fund
position
that
position
for
the
Water
and
Sewer
Department
as
there
is
for
the
unbalance
on
the
town
budget,
and
we
have
15
percent
on
budget,
but
I'm
thinking
that
you
might
want
to
consider
having
an
unrestricted
net
position
goal
because
you
are
dropping
it
from
4.7
million
down
to
2.2
million,
be
fairly
easy
to
keep
going,
come
back
up
or
not
stay
level,
I'm.
Just
saying
that,
maybe
the
board
should
consider
where
they
want
to
be
with
their
unrestricted
Nation.
Something.
A
M
I
M
M
E
M
Correct
yeah:
it's
it's
closer
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
reduction
in
the
unrestricted
money,
but
we
are
starting.
You
know
we're
starting
from
4.7
getting
to
2.2,
but
over
time
I
mean
the
unbudgeted
revenues
that
we've
referenced
before
is
back
in
play
for
fiscal
year,
25,
26,
27
and
moving
forward
just
estimating
that
two
hundred
thousand
plus
there's
the
srf
items
that
are
in
the
line
above
it
that
are
potential
offsetting
revenues
for
these
expenses.
M
E
E
E
P
H
A
C
Just
don't
want
to
leave
this
discussion
without
giving
a
big
Kudo
and
come
in
to
the
staff,
both
existing
and
previous,
the
fact
that
you
can
even
consider
spending
that
kind
of
money
to
do
these
projects
without
affecting
rates,
because
it's
your
Capital
project
that
you've
saved
all
this
time.
So
I
mean
you
guys
past
and
present
I,
don't
know
how
you
did
it,
but
did
a
hell
of
a
job.
C
Q
Sorry
about
that
Andy
I
can
never
find
the
button
so
yeah.
It
takes
me
a
while
a
quick
question
on
that
that
Pine
Crest
I
have
to
switch
back
and
forth
to
the
screens
on
the
Painesville
gravity
sewer
project.
Just
out
of
curiosity,
it
mentions
that
elevated
water
table
was
it
always
elevated
over
there.
P
Portions
of
it
there
is
that
there's
Jackson
Heights
and
then
it
goes
up
a
bear
and
then
Damon,
that's
all
on
a
Ridgeline,
a
Hill
section.
Oh,
there
is
significant
groundwater
up
in
there,
yeah
and
and
also
the
the
Lots
in
that
development,
at
least
in
the
older
section,
Jackson
Heights
Stearns
portions
of
pioneer.
P
The
lots
are
very
small
and
compact,
so
there's
little
to
no
room
available
for
any
type
of
real,
cheap
alternative
to
replace
your
on-site
system,
and
that
was
the
the
big
push
for
sewing.
That
section
of
Painesville
and
that's
where
this
project
that
was
the
Genesis
of
this
project
was
to
address.
I
Q
And
and
and
I
would
assume
that's
pretty
concerning
in
terms
of
sewage
going
to
drown,
water,
too
or
not,
I,
don't
know,
and
then
the
other
question
I
have
because
I
live
on
Center
Road.
What
is
the
because
I
we
saw
the
failure.
I
was
right
across
the
street.
What
is
that?
What's
a
force
Main
just
out
of
curiosity
and
what's
the
typical
lifespan
and
did
it
did
it
fail
earlier
than
you
expected
or
on
time
it.
P
Failed
earlier,
unfortunately,
three
times
the
Force
main
itself
is
the
mechanism
of
which
The
Pump
Station
moves
the
sewer
from
one
location
to
another
that
particular
station
Heritage
Estates
takes
on
sewer
from
the
Town
Center
and
the
developments
north
of
15,
and
also
the
Lang
Farm
Pump
Station.
So.
C
I
P
Wow,
but
we
did
some
insight
investigation
when
we
did
have
those
holes
opened
up,
it's
still
inconclusive
on
really
why
what
how
it
happened,
but
three
times
it
was
the
charm
yeah.
We
can't
do
business
that
way,
no
repair
that
as
it
goes
so
that's
that
was
that
was
why
we
initiated
this
project
to
get
it
to
get
it
on
the
capital
plan
and
we
are
moving
fast
and
forward
with
it.
P
It
will
likely
be
drilled,
horizontal
directional
drilling
it'll
be
a
different,
pipe
different
type,
pipe
material
it'll,
be
designed
by
an
engineer
and
then
once
we
do
throw
it
out
construction.
It's
going
to
be
built
by
contractor
professional
contractors
that,
hopefully,
don't
put
rocks
on
top
of
the
pipe.
Q
P
A
question
and
that's
something
that
we
have
been
discussing
in-house
on
how
to
investigate
some
of
those
I
know
there
are
options
out
there
that
are
low
impact,
quite
honestly,
digging
down
and
inspecting
the
pipe.
Every
certain
amount
of
feet
is
just
not
a
viable,
Financial,
financially
sound
solution
to
inspect
the
pipe,
but
there
are
other
Technologies
out
there.
I
A
H
A
M
Sure
so,
on
an
annual
basis.
According
to
our
policy,
we
need
to
evaluate
the
amount
of
delinquencies
that
we
have
so
I
did
that
analysis
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
all
right
finding
that
we
were
owed
523
000
of
delinquent
taxes
as
of
April
20th,
that
was
for
both
City
and
town
properties
combined
within
our
policy.
We
need
to
compare
the
amount
to
our
current
year,
ax
Levy.
So
that
was
my
idea
behind
using
that,
it's
comparing
you
know
those
delinquencies
against
our
near
fiscal
year
20..
M
So
the
percentage
calculates
to
a
3.5
percent
delinquency
rate.
Our
policy
states
that
five
percent
is
the
threshold
for
moving
forward
tax
sale
and
then
for
kind
of
Point
number,
two
in
terms
of
initiating
a
tax
sale,
whether
any
individual
property
to
have
a
fifty
thousand
balance.
Dual
standings,
which
we
don't.
M
M
M
A
A
H
E
M
So
obviously
you
know
five
percent
of
that
amount.
540
000
is
a
pretty
significant
number
to
reach
and
compared
to
where
we
are
now
for
the
town
on
its
own
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
even
quite
half
of
that
amount,
so
as
we
kind
of
turn
the
pendulum
on
to
being
on
our
own.
That's
how
that's,
how
the
numbers
look
at
first
glance:
okay,
yeah.
C
C
If
you
didn't
have
that
five
percent,
that
big
number
you
would
be
having
a
tax
sale-
and
my
point
is-
is
that
to
let
somebody
get
delinquent
thirty
thousand
dollars,
I
mean
how
many
times
have
they
been
delinquent.
I
mean
to
get
to
that
amount
with
the
town
with
the
town.
It
has
to
be
a
few
years
or
significant
property,
or
something
I
mean
to
let
it
get
that
high
before
you
have
a
tax
sale
is
a
disservice
because
it's
it
at
that
point.
It's
almost
impossible
to
catch
up.
C
You
mentioned
that
you're
concerned
about
putting
people
out
and
don't
want
to
move
them
out
of
their
house.
To
me,
my
opinion
is
the
purpose
of
of
tax
sale
policy
should
be
to
help
the
people
that
need
to
get
out
of
that
situation.
There's
typically
two
kinds
of
folks
that
get
there
one.
They
just
don't
pay
their
taxes.
That
happens,
but
there's
also
people
that
have
real
concerns.
C
I'd
lose
my
house,
so
I
just
think
it's
a
disservice
to
our
our
residents
to
let
the
balance
get
that
high
and
you
have
that
in
your
tax
policy,
clearly
other
than
the
five
percent
of
the
budget
is
that
if
they
exceed
ten
thousand
or
they
exceed
in
I,
think
it's
2500
or
5
000
over
two
years
that
they
go
to
a
tax
sale
and
the
benefit
of
a
tax
sale.
Is
that
you
go
to
the
tax
sale.
C
The
town
gets
their
revenue
right
off
the
bat
200
000,
that's
double
Pennies
on
the
tax,
but
it
also
gives
the
customer
a
year
to
get
the
help
that
they
need
to
to
get
right,
get
their
house
so
I,
just
I
I,
just
couldn't
let
it
pass
without
making
that
point
that
I
just
really
think
it's
a
disservice
to
those
well-residents
job
properties
that
let
them
get
this
high.
It's
impossible
to
catch
up.
A
A
Not
waiting-
and
you
know
just
you
know,
you
know
letting
the
number
get
bigger
and
bigger
and
during
during
covet
for
sure
we,
because
there
was
money
available.
We
educated
folks
on
how
to
forward
to
get
that
money
and
I
haven't
done
an
exhaustive
list,
but
I've
seen
the
the
delinquent
tax
report,
and
there
are
many
that
were
on
there
last
year
that
are
not
on
there
this
year
and
so
it
they're
they're
there
has
been.
There
has
been
progress
in
that
regard.
Yeah.
M
Yeah,
there's
definitely
a
cycle
of
mailings
that
go
on.
You
know,
after
the
due
dates,
there's
definitely
phone
calls
and
reaching
out
by
email.
Whatever
means
we
can
to
try
and
establish
contact-
and
you
know,
if
not
a
range
of
media
payment,
try
and
establish
an
agreement
so
that
people
can
try,
try
and
catch
up
before
it
gets
to
those
these
points.
But.
A
With
regard
to
the
the
what
the
policy
is
today,
we
certainly
can
you
know,
and
we
should
bring
that
up.
If
it's
a
I
know,
it's
been
a
concern
of
you've
trust
this.
Before
that
we
can,
we
can
talk
about
it
in
our
strategic
planning.
Is
the
ask
for
a
re-look
at
it
when
a
reconsideration
of
what
the
numbers
are
and
what
the
trigger
is.
A
There
so
I
was
probably
one
of
the
strong
proponents
of
having
it
in
place
so
that
we
didn't
do
exercise
it
arbitrarily
and
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
satisfied
our
Auditors
by
showing
that
we
had
a
policy.
That's
the
first
policy
we've
ever
had
yes
yeah,
so
yeah,
no
I
didn't
it's.
My
signature
is
missing
from
the
from
the
copy
that
you
have
not
been
service
only
because
I
was
absent
from
that
meeting
likely
or.
D
M
Money
well,
my
understanding
and
I.
I
may
not
be
completely
right
on
this,
but
I
always
thought
that
there
had
to
be
consideration
of
the
tax
status
of
a
home
in
order
to
have
a
real
estate
transaction
I
mean
there's
going
to
be
an
analysis
by
you
know
your
agent
to
be
like
what
what's
do
on
this
property.
What
what's
out
there?
It
goes
with
basically
the
inspection
of
the
home
and
just
any
possible
liabilities.
So
so
my
understanding-
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
naive
understanding-
is
that
that
helps
facilitate
payment.
M
If
someone
wants
to
sell
their
home,
you
know
they're
gonna
need
to
be
able
to
make
reparations
in
order
to
be
able
to
sell
it
or
they're
going
to
lose
money
on
their
real
estate
transaction.
So
some
somehow
that
real
estate
amount
that
tax
amount.
That's
due
is
going
to
be
settled
through
that
process.
Okay,.
D
M
M
M
H
E
A
G
A
Inheritance
all
right,
I
presume
that,
because
again,
looking
at
the
report,
I
know
of
an
individual
who
had
passed
and
I
saw
a
different
name
on
the
property,
and
so
it
just
transitions
to
them.
That's
I
think
it's
the
only
case
where
change
of
ownership
of
a
property
would
not
resolve
externality.
I
H
It
depends
on
the
review
of
the
they
present
their
finances
to
either,
if
they're
heavy
trying
to
have
an
abated,
they
bring
their
financial
information
to
the
abatement
board
if
they
go
through
the
assessor,
they
bring
the
financial
information
to
the
assessor
and
it's
determined
at
that
time.
What
amount
of
money
can
be
used
towards
the
payment?
Usually
it
goes
towards
the
interest
is
that
before
they
actually
get
anywhere
near
their
payment,
that's
where
they
keep
falling
farther.
C
That
emphasizes
my
point:
the
policies
is
very
nice.
It's
just
that
number
one
where
the
total
delinquent
has
to
exceed
everything,
because
if
you
look
at
A
and
B
in
your
policy
that
would
keep
just
about
everybody,
manageable,
ten
thousand
five,
but
that's
a
few
years
of
taxes,
you
could
probably
catch
up
with
that
42
000..
A
F
A
A
E
C
A
E
E
B
A
E
I
I
do
it
every
time
and
I
had
my
wife
and
my
kids
in
the
car
and
I
like
order,
mine
wasn't
like
focused
on
the
crosswalks
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
my
wife,
a
jammed
on
the
brakes
and
she's
like
what
are
you
doing.
I
said
well,
I
said
somebody
had
asked
me
about
this
crosswalk
a
while
ago
and
if
I
ever
forget
to
stop
for
somebody,
and
they
see
me
I
will
never
live
it
down.
A
I
A
F
F
No,
no
facilitator
this
time.
Marguerite
and
I
were
talking
about
it
a
little
bit
today.
We
want
to
flesh
it
out
this
week
we
meet
with
Andy
and
Tracy
later
on
this
week,
we'll
probably
bounce
some
ideas
off
of
you.
Rough
idea
at
this
point
is
to
kind
of
present
you
with
the
information.
That's
in
the
packet,
any
other
new
information
that
comes
in
over
the
course
of
the
week.
Maybe
we'll
have
a
live
spreadsheet,
where
we
can
kind
of
make
updates.
F
That's
there,
the
the
projects
that
are
there
and
then
talk
about
anything
you
want
to
add
and
based
on
your
own
desires
and
goals
and
anything
that
might
have
to
come
off
or
get
readjusted
based
on
stuff
that
you
want
to
prioritize
in
the
coming
year.
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
where
my
mind
I.
F
F
Please,
if
you
have
any
questions
after
looking
through
that
night
or
later
on
this
week,
we
kept
it
very
high
level.
Just
very
simple,
there's
a
whole
lot
more
detail
that
goes
into
almost
every
single
one
of
those
hundreds
of
lines.
So
if
you
have
questions
about,
what's
in
there,
I
can
get
back
to
department,
heads
I
know
a
lot,
but
I,
don't
know
every
single
detail
by
any
means.
So
please,
please,
ask
ahead
of
time.