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All
right
welcome
all
right
to
the
wilson
development
review
board
for
august
9
2022.
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name
is
pete
kelly,
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A
A
Okay,
we'll
transition
to
agenda
item
number
two,
which
is
the
public
hearing
tonight.
We've
got
two
items
on
the
agenda:
dp
18-0
6.3,
which
is
vermont
hotel
group
llc
requests
a
discretionary
permit
to
revise
the
building
facades,
color
materials,
the
site
plan
of
the
four-story
92-room
hotel
at
34-82
blair
park,
and
then
we
have
hp
22-06.
A
H
H
The
property
is
shared
with
a
multi-tenant
commercial
building
within
that
building
is
the
u.s
post
office
ups
and
a
few
other
businesses.
The
property
is
about
three
and
a
half
acres
located
in
the
business
park.
Zoning
district-
they
are
not
proposing
a
change
of
use
here
and
they
have
access
onto
blair
park
road,
which
is
a
town
road.
This
application
was
subject
to
design
review
tonight,
we're
recommending
that
the
drb
take
testimony
and
close
deliberate
and
make
a
decision
with
findings,
conclusions
and
conditions.
H
As
drafted,
the
drb
may
choose
to
modify
the
hacc
recommendation,
which
is
the
focus
of
tonight's
review,
this
property.
This
is
the
first
time
the
drb
is
reviewing
this
specific
request.
However,
the
permit
review
began
with
pre-app
in
2017
discretionary
permits
and
amendments
in
2019
and
an
amendment
to
the
master
sign
plan.
Last
year,
the
historic
and
architectural
advisory
committee.
The
hacc
reviewed
this
on
august,
2nd
public
works,
also
commented
that,
as
built,
plans
must
be
provided.
H
H
H
However,
this
application
is
below
the
threshold
of
form-based
code.
We
reviewed
section
eight
of
the
form
based
code
for
the
administration
of
non-conformities.
The
form-based
code
is
focused
on
additions
to
a
structure,
so
in
this
case
they're
not
making
an
addition.
They're,
just
changing
the
materials
on
an
existing
facade
and
relocating
a
very
minor
utility
enclosure
because
of
this,
it's
below
the
threshold
of
form
based
code
and
the
drb's
review
tonight
should
focus
solely
on
the
existing
bylaws.
H
H
So
this
section
of
the
bylaw
talks
about
the
screening
of
mechanical
equipment
that
ground
mounted
equipment
be
screened
by
a
fence
wall
or
landscaping
they're
proposing
two
hvac
pads.
One
is
a
particular
note
which
is
screenshotted
here
on
the
south
eastern
corner
of
the
building,
so
williston
road
and
the
bike
path
would
run
along
this
side
of
the
building
and
they
are
providing
a
six
foot
high
cedar
board
fence,
and
the
existing
landscaping
plan
shows
that
this
enclosure
would
be
screened
by
the
fence
and
softened
by
the
landscaping.
H
The
hack
felt
that
this
complied
as
proposed
design
review
so,
like
many
other
aspects
of
our
lives,
is
being
affected
by
supply
chain
issues.
The
previously
approved
material,
english
cherry
cement
board
is
no
longer
available,
so
they
went
back
to
the
franchise
for
other
approved
materials
and
they've
provided
a
couple
of
options
for
primarily
the
east
elevation.
H
This
top
image
shows
what
was
originally
proved,
that
more
burnt
orange
color
is
the
english
cherry.
That's
no
longer
available.
The
applicant
prefers
option,
one
which
is
to
carry
the
tan
material
all
the
way
across
levels.
Two
and
three,
however,
the
hack
preferred
option
two
which
carries
the
beige
down
from
the
gable
across
levels
two
through
four
and
the
stone
veneer
would
remain
the
same
along
the
first
level
on
the
west
elevation.
H
Some
changes
are
being
proposed
for
the
english
cherry.
The
hack
didn't
prefer
this
option
that
was
being
made.
They
felt
that
the
balance
of
carrying
up
the
stone
and
the
dark
brown
didn't
match
with
the
east
elevation.
There's
a
material
change
along
the
bottom
of
the
windows,
where
elsewhere
on
the
building
the
material
changes
with
the
floors
and
not
along
a
windows
edge
and
this
uneven
balance,
where
the
the
brown
element
is
wider
on
the
left
side
and
narrower
on
the
right
side.
H
The
last
change
is
to
the
stone
foundation
along
the
base
of
all
sides
of
the
building.
So
originally
there
was
to
be
the
lighter
stone
veneer
and
then
a
light
gray
foundation
below
it.
They're
proposing
to
carry
the
stone
veneer
all
the
way
down
to
the
ground
and
the
hack
felt
that
this
was
acceptable.
H
A
A
F
A
I
F
It
wouldn't
suit
the
project
for
it
only
to
be
in
the
northeast
corner
between
the
driveway
and
the
eastern
property
line,
kind
of
where
that
there's
a
concrete
pad
there
right
now.
Yes,
thank
you
right
where
the
cursor
is
so
they
had
to
split
it
into
two
locations
and
where
it
fit
best
to
have
the
most
efficient
runs.
F
Was
the
southeast
corner
of
the
building
on
a
small,
concrete
pad
up
in
the
corner
by
williston
road
and
another
spot
on
the
western
facade
north
of
the
port
gaucher,
where
it's
being
circled
in
green?
So
we
just
had
to
split
those
locations
up
and
are
proposing
new
pad
locations
with
cedar
ford
on
board
fencing
to
screen.
A
I
I
E
J
A
E
E
J
J
A
D
E
I
can
comment
yeah.
I
can
comment
on
this
mark.
This
is
this
is
dave
vermont,
hotel
group
speaking,
so
the
english
cherry
is
was
a
product
that
was
no
longer
available
so
because
this
is
a
franchised
wyndham
hotel
flag.
We
went
back
to
the
hotel
corporate
office
and
asked
for
some
feedback
on
what
to
do
to
replace
the
material
and
they're
using
a
lot
of
this
large
format,
pile
that
we're
seeing
the
brown
one
and
they
recommended
to
put
that
on
this
hotel
as
well.
E
D
A
M
E
E
A
I
E
D
E
E
I
wasn't
even
that
wasn't
anywhere
close
to
what
it
was
before
and
it
actually
brought
a
lot
a
lot
of
really
red
to
the
picture
and
we
already
have
red
trims
and
red
window
trims
and
it
wasn't
a
great
look
and
quite
honest,
really,
honestly,
the
main
feedback
to
change
it
to
the
tile
was
was
more
from.
You
know.
I
I'm
just
thinking
that,
from
a
simplicity,
say
a
simple
swap
of
one
color
for
another
and
we're
talking
about
this
for
for
a
couple
of
minutes,
because
this
board
typically
doesn't
get
too
deeply
involved
with
the
color
changes.
But
since
you're
changing
kind
of
where
you
have
different
colors,
I
it
becomes
a
more
a
more
complex
conversation.
B
I
D
I
D
I
mean
there's
a
there's,
a
trade
off
a
little
bit.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
but
like
when
you,
when
you
bring
the
color
down,
then
you're
sort
of
reinforcing
a
geometry
of
the
of
the
gabled
end,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
trade-off.
So
now
now
you
can
see
like
three
pieces
with
a
gable
and
the
two
edges,
and
so
it
it
has
its
own.
It
reads
its
own
way
that
way,
I
think
you
know,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
it's
like
now.
A
J
Versus
what
versus
you
know
where
it's,
where
the
colors
make
where
the
color
is
manufactured
into
it,
because
because
I
don't
want
to
prove
something's
going
to
end
up
starting
to
peel,
you
know
five
years
down
the
road
or
whatever,
and
then
they
got
to
go
out
and
scrape
it
and
paint
it
again.
I
think.
A
D
M
M
M
E
B
K
A
E
A
E
H
A
A
A
M
I
E
M
A
M
E
Yes,
so
my
my
understanding,
where
wyndham
was
going
with
two
different
material
is
the
the
darker
brown
is
what
they
typically
do
around
the
main
entrance
to
the
hotel
and
the
other
color
that
is
the
slightly
lighter
brown
is,
is
what
they
put
on.
Typically,
the
the
other
side
on
one
side
of
the
one
side
of
the
hotel
is
not
the
main
entrance.
It
was
kind
of
feedback
from
the
hotel
franchise
for
these
two
different
tile.
A
I
It
up
you
have
to
realize
these
are
the
two
you're
comparing
here
and
those
these
are
both
south.
These
are
both
the
north,
yes
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
where
those
well,
I'm
not
sure
which
generation
those
are
total.
Those
are
older,
I
think,
okay,
because
they
don't
match
the.
What
we've
got
in
the
factory
at
all.
H
H
A
H
I
I
think
the
the
3d
images
that
emily's
been
putting
on
the
screen
is
very
helpful
on
the
on
the
entrance
elevation,
and
I
would
agree
that
that
the
the
fact
that
that's
the
main
entrance
does
make
a
difference,
and
I
I
like
the
improvements
that
this
is
over.
What
was
originally
done
with
the
cherry
color
and
the
asymmetry
does
not
doesn't
bother
me
any
of
that
so,
and
I
think
I
mean
the
the
the
pork
chair
is
off-center
all
right
on
that
facade
anyway.
C
A
No,
I
I
get
it
but,
but
I
think
I
think
that's
I
think,
there's
consensus
in
this
group
on
that.
So
what
I'd
like
to
to
do
is
is,
is
sir,
give
you
an
opportunity.
You're.
Are
you
interested
in
addressing
the
board
yeah?
Okay?
So
if
you
would
come
up
to
the
to
the
table
with
the
with
the
placard
that
says
public,
I.
A
C
C
I
reviewed
this
project
the
last
meeting
and
I
was
kind
of
dismayed
at
the
at
the
direction
this
building
was
taken
and
in
order
to
understand
what
was
going
on
in
the
architect's
mind,
I
went
to
the
g4
website
and
came
up
with
these
these
photographs
here.
What
they
originally
had
intended
and
this
building
is
a
large
building,
but
it
has
no
inherent
massing
that
that
would
that
would
logically
break
it
down
into
smaller
components.
C
So
the
architects
had
a
grapple
with
that
and
I
think
they
came
up.
They
acknowledged
that
it's
a
big
building,
but
they
gave
us
some
nuance
and
some
subtlety
by
by
changing
the
color,
slightly
changing
material
slightly
and
I'm
putting
accents
a
couple
of
accents
here,
an
accent
at
the
entry
which
the
color
combination,
I
think,
is
very
rich,
and
I
think
that
that
I
would
respect
the
architect's
original
intent
and
I
think,
if
you
did
you'd
have
a
finer
building
that
we're
have
it's
actually
devolved
into
here
today.
I
I
I
There
were
some
similar
similarities
there.
They
were
actually
playing
off
of
each
other
and
being
similar
with
that,
whether
you
like
it
or
not,
the
the
the
cherry
colored
cement
board
that
was
on
there
was
similar
in
both
on
both
the
sides,
but
with
the
changes
we're
making
now
they're
not
really
relating
to
each
other
at
all
other
than
they're,
both
perhaps
responding
more
strongly
to
the
gable.
That's
on
that
facade,
but
again
I'm
just
would
be
interested
in
knowing
why
you're
you
seem
intent
on
not
having
those
two
elevations
relate
to
each
other.
D
K
I
J
H
J
K
A
A
K
M
D
A
H
That's
me,
okay,
so
this
is
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
resolve
a
zoning
violation
for
replacing
the
slate
roof
with
asphalt
shingles
without
the
benefit
of
a
permit.
This
property,
known
as
the
wertheim
house,
is
located
in
the
national
register.
Historic
district
of
the
village
zoning
district,
where
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
required
for
exterior
modifications
and
or
material
changes.
H
We
do
note
that
the
historic
sites
and
structures
survey
from
1978,
as
well
as
another
undated
survey,
both
list
asphalt,
shingles
as
the
roof
covering.
However,
a
1999
survey
lists
slate
and
aerial
and
street
view.
Imagery,
that's
included
in
your
packet
does
depict
a
distinct
change
in
materials
from
2015
and
2018,
and
the
2021
photography
from
google.
H
So
the
zoning
violation
was
issued
on
june
29th
within
a
day
by
receiving
the
application
rich
mclean,
the
managing
partner
for
lake
point
property
management,
responded
and
then
on
july,
6
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
application
was
submitted.
Hack
review
took
place
on
august
6,
where
the
applicant
jack
and
another
representative
were
present
at
that
hacc
meeting.
Some
new
information
came
to
light
that
the
north
east
gable
and
the
east
gable
of
the
building
were
asphalt
shingles
before
the
replacement
and
the
apple.
A
H
B
H
L
L
H
H
So
what
the
hack
did
is
they
considered
all
the
recommendations?
Option
one
through
five
that
were
drafted
by
staff
and
they
created
their
own
recommendation
to
store
the
slate
roof
on
the
street
facing
it
says
gable.
It
should
say
roof
within
one
year
and
the
asphalt
shingles
are
acceptable
on
the
other
portions
of
the
roof,
and
this
image
highlights
in
yellow
the
south
facing
roof
where
they
would
like
to
see
the
slate
the
hack
discussion
kind
of
forgot
about
the
porch.
L
I
think
that
sums
up
what
we're
looking
for
when
we
also
agree
with
the
recommendation
that
hack
made
and
we'd
again
just
like
to
apologize
for
the
issue
that
we've
caused
and
the
mistake
that
was
made
with
moving
forward
with
replacing
a
roof
without
fully
pulling
all
permits
that
are
necessary
and
finding
out
that
this
building
is
indeed
on.
The
historical
registry.
A
I
I
A
H
A
I
Above
this
approval,
this
approval
authorizes
the
applicant
to
file
final
plans,
obtain
approval
of
these
plans
from
the
drb
and
then
seek
an
administrative
permit
for
the
proposed
development,
which
must
proceed
in
strict
performance
with
the
plans
on
which
this
approval
is
based.
We're
going
to
adjust
a
couple
of
conditions.
I
Specifically,
condition
number
three
is
going
to
read,
I
think,
in
its
entirety.
Final
plans
shall
address
the
comments
of
the
wilson
historic
and
architectural
advisory
committee.
Memo
dated
august
2nd
2022
as
amended
by
the
drb
on
august
9
2022,
a
stone
foundation's
carrying
the
stone
veneer
to
the
ground
foundation
is
acceptable
as
proposed
b.
East
elevation
provide
a
facade
treatment
on
the
east
side
under
the
cable
that
is
similar
to
the
west
entrance
facade,
using
the
same
pallet
of
materials
as
on
the
west
elevation
c
west
elevation.
I
A
G
Yes,
I
scott
reilly
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
allenbrook
properties,
llc
application
number
hp,
22-06
for
the
purpose
of
correcting
the
zoning
violation
or
replacing
the
slate
group
with
asphalt
shingles.
Without
the
benefit
of
a
permit.
We
will
be
adding
the
following
recommendation:
that
the
applicant
will
restore
the
slate
roof
on
the
street
facing
roof
and
the
porch
within
one
year.
A
B
G
K
M
G
H
B
H
Yep
so
included
in
your
packet
is
a
brief
memo
about
the
village
bylaw
zoning
update.
So
back
in
late
june
early
july,
on
behalf
of
the
planning
commission
in
the
hacc,
we
publicly
launched
a
zoning
bylaw
update
light
form
based
code,
there's
a
specific
website
just
for
this
project.
Willistonvillagevt.Us.
H
You
can
find
the
draft
zoning
document
on
the
website.
This
is
my
version
with
all
of
my
markup
and
planning
commission
markup
on
this
document,
and
this
bylaw
revision
is
a
long
time
coming
and
it's
twofold
one
to
provide
clarity
on
the
design
review
guidelines
and
the
historic
preservation
standards.
H
H
This
proposal
provides
more
clarity
as
to
where
commercial
use
is
allowed
and
when
it
is
brought
into
the
village
that
it's
done
in
a
way
to
reduce
conflict,
vis-a-vis
buffering
fences.
You
may
recall
several
years
ago
when
the
lantman
house
became
ridgeline
real
estate.
There
is
some
discussion
about
the
drb
about
head
like
there.
They
required
a
fence
strategically
placed
along
the
parking
lot.
Pax
said:
hey,
that's
a
great
idea:
let's
just
write
that
into
the
standard.
H
I'll
be
the
first
to
admit
that
I
wrote
the
permit
threshold
table
and
it
is
terrible
and
I
hate
it,
because
it
is
not
making
things
clear,
but
we're
working
in
that
direction
and
the
route
is
going
to
a
contributing
structure
versus
a
non-contributing
structure,
determination.
So
in
the
national
register
district.
Everything
needs
that
certificate
of
appropriateness
when
you
guys,
with
the
hack
device
put
on
the
national
preservation,
the
national
park,
preservation
hat
and
administer
the
national
register
district
and
then
everywhere
else
in
the
village.
H
So,
rather
than
you
know,
we
considered
the
idea
of
having
a
whole
list
of
structures
in
the
village
and
if
they
are
or
not
contributing,
and
that
would
pretty
much
mean
that
this
bylaw
revision
would
be
reduced
to
property
owners,
arguing
whether
their
property
should
be
on
the
list
or
not,
and
the
determination
process
means
that
it
happens
on
that
per
parcel
basis.
When
somebody
comes
to
the
board
where
they
say
I
want
to,
I
might
want
to
demolish
this
building.
Is
it
contributing
and
what
route?
H
And
then
several
other
smaller
changes
to
pictures
and
intent
statement
where
things
are
shalls
or
shoulds,
either
getting
rid
of
them
or
making
them
a
shell
that
type
of
thing
on
slate.
This
is
drafted
with
probably
the
strictest
interpretation
possible,
which
is
where
structure
was
likely
to
have
slate
originally,
and
maybe
now
it
has
metal
or
string
asphalt,
shingles
requiring
it
to
go
back
to
sleep
and
the
hack
is
not
in
favor
of
that.
H
H
A
community
meeting
is
scheduled
for
september
20th
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
moment
where
we
use
some
tools,
like
meant
to
meter
or
other
live
survey
tools,
to
get
gauge
people's
interest.
Where,
where
does
the
community
want
to
fall
on
that
spectrum
from
most
strict
to
most
lenient,
recognizing
that
the
village
isn't
colonial
williamsburg?
I
G
And
I
would
I
would
I
would
just
bring
up
another
point.
I
watched
a
landlord
in
downtown
burlington
with
a
historic
building
fight
the
city,
because
the
city
said
you
had
to
have
a
three
inch
reveal
on
cloudwood
siding
and
you
know
he
wanted
to
use
a
foreign
reveal
and
they
took
him
to
court
over
and
to
me
that
that
is
and
he
won
by
the
way.
So
to
me
that
is
getting
much
too
controlling
on
what
is
going
on
and
there
should
be.
G
H
I
had
a
meeting
today
with
a
couple
who
own
a
historic
property
in
the
village
that
is
an
1800s
home,
but
it's
outside
both
of
those
review
areas
and
based
on
the
changes
that
they
would
like
to
make
to
their
home.
I
thought
of
ways
that
this
bylaw
is
not
fully
meeting
that
intent
and
revising
that
to
provide
that
flexibility
for
incremental
change.
H
When
I
was
reviewing
that
permit
history
of
and
historic
photos
of
places
in
the
village,
they
never
were
a
static
thing.
Even
you
know,
things
in
the
1800s
were
very
simple
and
then
late,
1800s
early
1900s,
a
lot
of
embellishments,
were
added
to
homes,
additions,
doors
and
windows
moved
around.
So
providing
like
you
say
that
flexibility
that
there's
a
little
wiggle
room
to
provide
modification
over
time.
We
don't
want
to
break
in
the
front
door
that
faces
the
street,
but
there
is
some
room
for
flexibility
for
other
changes.
H
I
would
say,
probably
more
than
a
decade
ago
where
the
boards
were
very
nitpicky
on
that
same
level
of
oh
three
or
four
inch
reveal
how
deep
should
your
front
porch
be
that
you're,
adding
to
your
home,
and
a
lot
of
this
has
been
like
kind
of
you
know
historic
advisory
therapy
for
people
where
I'm
like
sorry,
you
were
treated
that
way
in
the
past,
and
the
current
drb
and
hack
interpretation
of
that
standard
is
a
lot
different.
It's
a
lot
more
flexible.
G
Let
me
just
chime
in
for
the
more
for
the
board's
education
when
I
first
got
on
the
board,
which
is
close
to
15
years
ago,
we
had
a
number
of
we
had.
A
number
of
items
come
before
the
board,
where
people
wanted
to
replace
windows,
and
at
the
time
I
got
on
the
board,
it
was
the
the
bylaw
or
whoever
was
managing.
The
staff
was
hard
on.
If
you
had
a
wood
window,
if
you
had
a
wood
window
or
under.
J
G
Window
you
had
to
put
a
wooden
window
back
and
it
just
boggled
the
mind.
You
know
if
you're
going
to
paint
it
red,
green,
blue,
whatever
anyways
then
buy
a
you
know,
buy
a
wood
window
with
either
fiberglass
or
metal
cladding
it'll
last
ten
times
longer,
and
you
have
to
sit
out
there
and
scrape
it
and
paint
it
and
rock
it.
G
And
you
know
we
the
board-
and
I
was
one
of
the
people
thumping
my
fist
on
the
table.
Saying
guys
you,
you
know
this
is
dumb.
This
is
just
and
so
that
to
me
that
was
an
evolutionary
change
in
the
way
staff
looked
at
things
the
board
looked
at
things
and
that
whole
topic
really
has
just
gone
away.
You
know
we
haven't
seen
anything
like
that
in
in
in
ages,
but
at
the
time
I
got
on
board,
we
saw
it
a
lot
yeah.
B
J
I
K
I
H
Right,
so
what
the
determination
of
contributing
structure
status
says
is
what
can
be
a
contributing
structures?
Structures
built
before
1900,
especially
between
1820
and
1860,
includes
primary
buildings.
In
addition
can
include
accessory
barns
or
sheds.
It
does
not
include
fences,
walls,
driveways
parking
area,
landscaping
and
trees.
G
K
G
K
I
Historic
preservation
says:
I
do
think
that
at
some
point,
where,
if
you
say
rat,
not
1900
but
100
years
old,
now,
you're
you're
automatically
kind
of
progressing
that
that
that
group,
some
some
buildings,
will
automatically
over
five
or
ten
years,
become
a
contributing
member
just
because
of
their
age.
But
I
would
almost
want
to
say
that
they
need
to
be
at
least
a
certain
age
and.
G
B
H
Yeah,
so
a
subtext
to
this
whole
bylaw
revision
is:
there
is
interest
from
the
hack
in
expanding
the
historic
overlay.
That's
beyond
the
scope
of
what
the
village
master
plan
called
for.
It
would
require.
You
know
a
town
plan.
Amendment
first
say:
consider
expanding
to
a
town-wide
historic
overlap.
There
was
a
lot
of
heartburn
over
the
road
bear
house
when
it
got
torn
down
to
build
u-haul.
H
And
this
sears
house
is
in
the
same
zoning
district
because
currently
there's
only
protection
in
the
village
zoning
district,
but
the
majority
of
historic
structures
are
actually
outside
of
that
village.
Zoning
district
on
it
when
you
just
look
at
the
hard
numbers,
so
I
think
there
would
be
a
future
where
this
and
I
tried
to
draft
the
standard
to
scale
up
if
it
were
to
be
copy
pasted
to
other
parts
of
the
town
and
there
was
a
town
wide
overlay.
H
H
There
might
be
something
that's
over
a
hundred
years
old.
I
don't
think
corner
quick,
I'm
not
sure
when
it
was
built,
but
I
don't
think
it
was
1800s
based
on
some
photos.
I've
seen
but
again,
something
where
the
windows
and
the
roof
and
the
siding.
So
many
things
have
been
changed.
Incrementally
isn't
even
a
contributing
structure
anymore,
and
that
is
a
determination
on
the.
I
Other
hand
so
that
that
actually
becomes
kind
of
the
opposite
argument.
Here:
it's
not
necessarily
old,
but
it
it's
a
fixture.
I
mean
it's
a
fixture
in
town
and
you
know
you
could
probably
do
a
little
booklet
on
that.
That
building
has
changed
over
time
and
the
role
that
it
played
in
the
history
of
the
town
and
therefore
you
know
does
it
have
some
other
historical
significance
in
the
in
the
in
the
history
of
the
town,
because
I
think
that
makes
it
something
a
contributing
factor.
I
K
H
So
I
I'm
hearing
what
you're
saying-
and
I
think
that
is
something
that
I'm
in
agreement
with
to
add
that
that
scalability,
based
on
what
the
basically
the
national
park
standards,
are
it's
more
than
just
50
years.
It's
the
time
frame
and
style
is
exemplary
and
maybe
something
significant,
local
or
nationally
happens
there.
The
way
this
determination
standard
is
currently
written.
The
determination
letter
is
issued
by
the
zoning
administrator
and
I
think,
there's
some
opportunity
there
with
how
the
noticing
is
set
up.
If
it
should
be.
B
H
K
H
H
K
H
K
H
K
J
Inside
that
thing,
what
everybody
yeah
I've
been
inside
twice
once
when
they
had
it
for
auction
and
once
when
one
of
the
contractors
fell
in
the
foyer
off
the
scaffolding,
all
the
way
to
the
top
with
a
stuck
ladder
on
the
top
of
the
scaffolding
and
he
went
down
and
that's
when
I
found
out
how
big
that
building
was
because
engine
one
was
coming
up.
The
driveway
as
I
was
coming
up
van
sicklin
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
watched
engine
one
get
smaller
and
smaller
I'm
going
holy
crap.
That
building
is
huge.
A
Sure?
Okay?
Is
there
a
second
I'll?
Second,
it
dave
turner
seconds
any
discussion,
hearing
done,
yay
or
nay
paul
yeah,
john
hamill,
scott
riley,
dave
turner,
hey
nate,
andrews,
okay,
jersey,
a
six
in
favor,
none
opposed
meeting
minutes
are
approved.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
moved
a
second
second
john
hammelgren
seconds
it
all
in
favor,
hey.