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A
A
Good
evening,
okay,
welcome
and
just
a
couple
announcements.
First,
we
do
a
food
outside
and
out
meeting
out
of
this
room,
not
really
outside
of
the
building,
and
it's
from
Alicia
Masala,
which
is
on
the
corner
of
Colchester
Avenue
and
East,
Avenue
and
and
another
announcement
is
that,
if
you
have
received
which
I
believe
everyone
has
a
ballot
for
the
November
election,
there
was
a
piece
missing.
That's
the
cswd
ballot,
it's
a
for
a
bond
issue
where
the
solid
waste
district
and
you
have
to
request
that
separately.
C
My
understanding
is,
you
call
City
Clerk
and
they
can
mail
it
to
you
or
you
go
down
when
you're
submitting
your
Ballot
or
whatever
and
I
love
you.
If
you
want
and
give
you
one
then,
and
it
wasn't
supposed
to
be
I,
don't
know
we
don't
understand
why
it
wasn't
all
part
of
the
package,
but
it's
important
issue.
So
we
decided
that,
for
you.
A
C
B
C
It
was
really
important
to
me
and-
and
my
chair
said
to
me
like-
oh,
don't
worry-
the
housing
commissioner
can
speak
to
that.
But
I
know
from
my
own
experience
growing
up
in
a
single
parent
working
class
home
and
from
my
work
as
a
social
worker.
It's
actually
really
important
that
we
hear
stories
from
the
people
experiencing
them
and
so
I
really
want
to
continue
doing.
B
C
Work
in
the
Senate,
we
lost
some
really
important
people
in
the
Senate
and
some
people
who
should
have
retired,
maybe
a
long
time
ago,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
open
seats
there
and
I
think
we
have
a
real
opportunity
right
now,
with
almost
a
third
of
the
Senate
and
more
than
a
third
of
the
house.
Turning
over
to
put
people
into
those
seats
that
actually
get
it
I'm
a
renter
because
I
can't
afford
to
buy
here.
C
I
am
one
of
the
many
vermonters
that
went
away
to
college
and
couldn't
afford
to
come
home
and
I
hear
over
and
over
and
over
again
the
rhetoric
around
like
how
do
we
keep
people
here?
We
pay
them.
We
create
affordable
housing,
we
make
accessible,
affordable
child
care
and
those
are
the
things
that
I
want
to
go
fight
for,
not
speaking
for
you
but
opening
the
door
for
you
to
come
speak
for
yourself.
So
that's
me.
I
am
happy
to
take
questions.
I'm
happy
to
get
well.
C
D
A
E
Hi
everybody,
my
name,
is
Jake
Schuman
I
I
was
asked
to
express
what
I
thought
was
the
most
important
issue
to
the
east.
District
I
played
with
it.
In
my
mind,
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
say
are
the
most
important
issue
to
the
east
District,
because
they're
the
most
important
issue
to
the
city,
but
I'm
gonna,
try
and
keep
it
focused
on
the
East
District
yeah.
E
So
the
way
that
I
would
respond
to
that
question
is
I
think
that
for
Ward,
one
specifically,
even
more
so
than
the
rest
of
the
city,
what's
very
important-
is
the
city's
relationship
with
the
University
of
Vermont
I.
Think
that
when
we
think
about
the
housing
crisis,
you
know
we
don't
think
about
the
issue
of
homelessness
among
the
University
of
Vermont,
Community
and
I.
Think
that
it's
really
unfortunate
that
when
we
think
of
the
homeless
community
in
Vermont,
we
conjure
an
image
of
this
archetypal
human
being.
E
Who
has
done
things
wrong
and
has
messed
up
and
is
bad
for
some
reason
and
I
would
say
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community
who
deserve
housing,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
in
our
community
who
have
housing
who
deserve
better
housing
and
I.
Think
that
if
we
Engage
The
University
of
Vermont
in
good
faith,
bring
them
to
the
table
and
and
leverage
what
we
can,
then
we
can
work
with
them
to
address
our
housing
crisis
in
a
very
meaningful
way.
E
A
E
Thank
you
for
the
prompt.
My
background
is
in
human
services
and
social
work.
I've
also
worked
in
Human
Resources
personal
type.
Stuff
I
am
currently
an
EMT
I've
also
done
policy
work.
Most
recently,
I
spent
the
last
year
working
at
DCF
central
office
in
their
policy
shop
I
also
in
2012
and
2013
helped
write
a
bill
that
became
the
2014
an
act
relating
to
equal
pay,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
but
we'll
leave
it
there.
Okay,
thank.
F
E
E
I
would
say
that
the
public
safety
issue
is
very
difficult
to
compress
into
easily
digestible
sound
bites,
but
I'm
going
to
do
my
best.
I
think
that
in
2020
there
was
a
national
movement
and
it
got
a
lot
of
attention
focused
on
police
and
the
problems
in
the
policing.
I
think
that
there
was
a
lot
of
emotional
thinking
and
reasoning
around
that
issue
and
I
think
that
you
know
whether
you
agree
that
he
was
successful
or
not.
E
E
I
think
that
some
reactionary
folks
maybe
moved
a
little
bit
too
quickly,
and
maybe
there
was
not
as
much
thinking
around
the
process
and
the
engagement
and
the
way
that
it
was
done.
But
without
relitigating
the
past
I
would
say
that
moving
forward.
The
way
that
we
deal
with
Public
Safety
is
trying
to
put
it
in
a
nutshell.
We
need
officers
to
be
able
to
respond
to
all
the
calls
for
service
that
we
get,
but
we
don't
need
people
with
guns
responding
to
all
of
those
calls.
D
B
D
I
do
know
we
had
a
candidate
recently
who
won
and
when
she
was
asked
about
the
pensions
she
didn't
know
what
a
pension
was
and
I
find
that
concerning
so
I
would
hope.
Whoever's
running
you
know
whoever
wins.
The
seat
is
pretty
well
versed
in
some
of
the
simple
but
complicated
issues
that
and
sometimes
boring,
honestly
and
Jose.
If
they
have
to
be
addressed.
E
Yeah
I
do
appreciate
that
because
I
actually
I
very
much
agree
with
you
and
I'd
say
that
the
reason
I
don't
go
to
City
Council
meetings
is
because
they're
boring
but
I.
You
know,
I
I
I
have
friends
who
serve
on
city,
council
and
I.
Have
friends
in
the
state
house,
and
you
know
I
follow
the
news
that
comes
out
of
those
spaces.
So
that's
why
I
don't
go
because.
D
E
A
C
Hi
everyone
I
want
to
first
thank
everyone
for
coming
here
for
taking
the
time
to
be
here
so
I,
responding
to
my
first
city
council
and
one
of
my
main
focus
is
Public.
Safety
I
work
in
the
courthouse,
so
I
will
have
the
issues
to
match.
We
all
are
dressed
with.
They
end
up
on
my
desk
five
days
a
week
and
that's
my
whole
role
is
to
deal
with
like
the
child
issues
and
the
student
issues
and
having
a
responsibility
in
helping
each
person
maneuver
through
the
court
process
and
I
watch.
C
Family
cases
turn
into
criminal
cases
and
I
believe
my
focus
on
Public
Safety
is
seeing
the
interconnections
between
them
all.
If
we
want
public
safe
to
look
at
housing,
if
we're
trying
to
build
affordable
housing,
we
have
to
build
affordable
housing
and
sustainable
environments.
If
you
want
to
increase
Public
Safety
and
make
sure
our
kids
are
having
schools
are
getting
responding,
I
do
work
with
the
Lucy
school
district
and.
C
There's
drug
abuse,
you
know
we
just
can't
there's
so
many
little
moving
parts
that
I
really
want
to
focus
on.
You
know
like
just
like
to
get
calls
where
parents
have
relief
and
abuse
cases.
I
always
think
myself,
because
kids
being
exposed
to
that
matter
and
one
day
they
might
go
on
the
same
position,
so
I
care
about
Public,
Safety,
I
care
about
building
that
Foundation,
because
we
can't
build
a
home
without
a
foundation
and
that's
my
role.
B
C
One
because
I
understand
what
it's
like
to
have
an
issue
and
not
have
someone
that
can
provide
to
the
door,
so
you
have
to
go,
make
the
door
yourself
and
open
that
same
joint.
That's
why
I
believe
having
a
member
who
works
in
the
courthouse
and
you'll
handle
these
problems
firsthand
I!
Think
that's
what
the
counseling
a
fresh
perspective
needs
some
of
it
a
law
background.
C
You
can
have
past
bills
because
they
have
the
legal
knowledge
to
do
so
and
how
housing
is
such
a
big
problem
for
me,
because
my
mother
worked
two
jobs
and
we
lost
our
home.
We
didn't
have
heat
for
months,
five,
kids
and
she
wanted
to
support
the
house
and
were,
of
course
concern
was
it's
in
a
safe
environment,
gun
violence
happens
because
of
young
people
because
oftentimes
they
are
in
a
safe
environment,
and
that's
my
focus.
Thank
you
for
listening.
A
C
Of
course,
so
I'm
a
child
of
healthcare
workers
and
I
think
since
the
pandemic,
how
the
workers
are
being
so
overworked
and
they're
exhausted
and
a
lot
of
them
have
kids
that
help,
and
when
my
parents
became
healthcare
workers,
they
told
us
they're
like
we're
not
going
to
be
home
a
lot.
We
need
you
to
look
out
for
each
other
and,
like
that's,
how
I
see
things
that
we
want
to
improve
and
we
want
to
increase
Public
Safety.
We
want
our
kids
to
have
a
resource
education.
C
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
working
with
each
other
and
I
think
one
of
the
working
class
family.
You
have
to
fend
for
yourself
and
when
you
experience
that
you
learned
a
lot,
I
was
a
legal
intern
for
a
litigation
Law
Firm
I'm,
18
I
was
the
youngest
person
ever
and
I
handle
employee
harassment
cases
I
handle
cases
where
workers
weren't
the
rights
were
not
protected,
but
they
have
to
work
good
because
if
they
lost
that
job,
how
they're
going
to
pay
rent?
How
to
keep
their
kids
in
school?
C
Yes,
I've
lived
here
for
over
14
years,
yeah
I
went
to
Bryce
moral
High,
School
I
had
the
privilege
of
having
privileged
education,
but
that
came
with
my
parents
at
home
and
that's
oftentimes.
What
happens
that
we
have
to
sacrifice
so
much
of
ourselves
to
have
one
little
gut,
but
it's
like
that
shouldn't
be
that
you
know
I
really
want
to
focus
on
the
way,
we're
looking
to
send
money.
C
The
way
like
taxes
like
these
need
to
go
back
to
the
schools
and
I
think
the
issued,
also
like
the
police,
with
the
police
model
like
we
need
to
create
more
Beauty
I.
Think
it's
more
I
really
want
to
increase
the
meanings
like
people
of
color
to
be
sitting
down
the
police
tomorrow,
because
I
work
with
the
policeman
in
my
courthouse
so
because
I
I'm,
already
working
with
both
sides,
I'm
ready
to
have
these
main.
These
gatherings
like
we
can't
move
forward.
C
If
there's
no
Unity,
if
there's
not
listening,
I
mean
I,
know
the
answer
to
all
the
questions,
but
if
I'm
listening
then
I
can
work
with
you.
I'm
not
gonna,
say
I
know
that
social
to
every
problem,
because
I
don't,
but
if
I
can
listen,
then
I
do
and
that's
why
I
really
enjoy
mediation
delegation
sit
down.
So
that's
on
your
tonight.
C
C
Yeah
so
domestic
violence,
which
I'm
so
glad
you
brought
it
up,
I
mean
you
work
in
social
work,
so
you
understand
a
lot
of
social
workers,
there's
not
enough
of
them
and
they're
not
getting
responding,
so
I'm
very
much
open
to
seeing
possible
solutions.
You
know
like
what
you
thought
is
a
great
initiative
that
I
will
be
open
to
I'm
I'm
coming
to
city
council,
because
I
want
people
of
Burlington
to
say
this
is
my
idea.
This
is
what
I
want
to
see
and
we
listen
to
that
I.
C
Don't
think
city
council
is
about
making
this
decision
it's
about
listening
to
the
answers
and
that's
something
that
happens
to
be
open
to,
because
I
know
people
in
the
police
department
and
they
really
care.
So
it's
like
how
can
we
bring
them
forward,
say
hi,
some
people
are
upset
with
us,
but
listen.
This
is
what
I
do
and
I
really
do
care
about.
The
community
and
I
know
that.
So
that's
my
role
and
they
disconnect
I
really
just
want
to
put
on
a
positive
emergency
and
better
communication.
H
Yes,
hi
thank
you
for
for
putting
your
name
forward
and
for
running
I'm.
Sorry
I
couldn't
be
there
tonight
to
meet
you
in
person,
but
I
I,
don't
know
much
about
you
but
I'd
like
to
know
how
long
have
you
worked
at
the
courthouse
and
then
the
other
candidate
was
asked
how
many
City
Council
meetings
they
had
attended
and
I'm
interested
to
know
that
piece
and
if,
when
you
were
in
school,
if
you
ever
were
part
of
a
legislative
process,
yeah.
C
So
so
I've
always
been
a
Community
member
and
a
leader
in
the
community,
and
that's
always
been
my
platform
with
the
community
that
I
think
I
may
not
attended
all
between
Council
meetings.
I
attended
like
once
a
year
because
I
was
in
the
community.
You
know
I
feel
like
the
real
conversations
happens
and
things
like
this
and
that's
exactly
what
I
care
about.
If
I
was
not
a
state,
Council
so
make
sure
I'm
attending
the
challenges.
I
think
that's
where
the
real
work
starts
and
in
college
so
I
was
like.
C
Do
you
want
to
acting
in
college
and
like
a
lot
of
students
here,
I
was
working
two
jobs
to
help
support
myself
in
college.
So
while
I
wasn't
able
to
be
part
of
a
legislative
bill,
I
I
was
a
double
major
and
I
worked
a
lot
with
like
with
law
firms
and
I
worked
with
all
the
teachers
and
just
I
mean
anything
to
myself.
I
think
my
goal
is
to
help
pass
a
bill.
C
C
So
it's
it's
been
four
months
of
just
like
really
getting
my
expertise
and
like
I
deal
with
like
40
clients
a
day,
so
it's
a
lot
and
I
know
like
and
it
always
a
lot
of
things
I
see
in
the
news
like
I
happen
to
talk
to
that
person
and
they
called
me
like
hi
I
had
this
issue.
What
can
I
do
and
I'm
really
excited
to
bring
like
that
into
City
Council
and
I
really
want
to
focus
on
educating
townspeople
about
their
rights,
because
I
think
that's
another
way.
We
can
help
protect
ourselves.
H
C
C
He
was
still
learning
English,
so
what
did
he
do?
He
had
to
teach
himself
how
to
drive.
It
teaches
my
mom
how
to
drive,
and
you
start
teaching
people
our
community
how
to
drive.
You
know
like
a
lot
of
these
issues,
we're
addressing
about
like
I'm,
not
consume
I.
Think
it's
like
I
might
be
like
accurate,
because
I
know
where
I
put
like
the
new
American
people
in
this
room.
C
Drug
abuse
because,
like
from
my
experience,
we
can't
afford
to
live
in
nicer
places
and
that's
a
reality,
but
we're
not
gonna
even
hear
how
can
really
affect
change.
You
know
like
they
need
to
be
here:
I
want
to
increase
translators
and
then
my
dad
speaks
five
languages,
so
he
was
so
happy
to
start.
Bringing
people
in
translating
I
know
so
many
translators,
so
I
really
want
to
bring
them
here
and
tell
them
like.
Let's
bring
everyone
along,
we
are
community,
so
we
have
to
look
like
a
community.
C
B
B
Okay,
my
second
observation
is
that,
on
the
hope,
so
our
previous
speaker
is
standing
like
this.
So
all
people
online
could
only
see
the
background.
Okay,
so
I
suggest
a
person
stands
up.
The
camera
is
set
up
this
way,
so
that
people
who
are
online
can
feel
that
they're
part
of
the
meeting
so
they're
they're
looking
like
this,
so
they
can
see
everyone
except
the
speaker.
Okay,
so
at
the
very
least,
you
should
like
turn
around
and
do
this
occasionally
or
something
I'm.
Just
those
are
my
observations,
so
the
room
has
certain
limitations.
B
C
Running
time,
can
you
just
talk,
maybe
about
one
or
two
pieces
of
legislation
that
you
worked
on
as
a
representative
in
your
virtually
proud
yeah?
Absolutely
so
one
of
the
bills
that
I'm
really
proud
of
that
I
moved
forward
was
a
Workforce
Development
task
force
that
looks
at
not.
It
does
a
lot
of
sort
of
boring,
licensure
things
that
unless
you're
a
mental
health
professional
you
don't
really
care
about,
but
the
most
exciting
part
about
that
bill
was
setting
up.
C
This
work,
develop
Workforce,
Development
task
force
that
didn't
just
name
Commissioners
to
a
task
force.
It
named.
It
asked
the
Vermont
Center
for
Independent
Living,
which
is
a
disability
rights
organization.
To
put
someone
on
the
task
force
said:
ask
our
great
Vermont
to
put
someone
on
the
task
force
and
ask
the
new
American
Community
to
put
someone
on
the
task
force
and
to
really
look
at
not
only
how
are
we
growing
our
mental
health
Workforce?
But
how
are
we
diversifying
our
mental
health
Workforce?
C
Because
I
know,
when
I
look
around
the
mental
health
core
course,
it
is
largely
upper
middle
class
white
women
and
if
we're
truly
going
to
provide
mental
health
care,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
representative
mental
health
care,
and
so,
while
I
was
being
asked
by
the
people
who
work
in
the
same
field,
that
I
do
to
really
look
at.
How
do
we
diversify
that
field?
Because
without
a
doubt
there
is
a
crisis
in
that
field?
C
It
wasn't
simply
about
bringing
more
numbers
and
it's
about
who
are
we
bringing
his
field
so
that
it's
truly
representative
I
was
also
really
happy
to
fight
for
the
voter
expansion
bill.
So
Universal
mail
balloting
was
something
that
we
passed
through.
My
committee
and
two
of
the
committee
amendments
that
I
was
able
to
add
to
that
that
I
was
really
excited
about
were
electronic
ballot,
caring,
so
ballot
caring
came
over
to
us
from
the
Senate
and
I
was
able
to
expand
that
to
electronic
ballot
curing.
C
And
previously,
if
we
made
a
minor
technical
error
on
your
ballot,
it
got
thrown
out
and
marked
effectively
found
it.
Now,
if
you
make
a
minor
technical
error
on
your
ballot,
your
town
court,
we'll
call
you
and
say:
hey
you
made
an
error.
Would
you
like
to
fix
it
and
as
long
as
the
error
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
revoke,
you
can
email
them
in
affidavit,
fix
your
balance
and
have
your
vote
count.
The
other
piece
that
I
was
able
to
add
into
that
bill
was
around
primary
voting,
so
it
was
really
confusing.
C
The
selection
cycle.
I
talked
to
so
many
people
during
the
primary
who
said
I'm
just
waiting
for
my
ballot
to
arrive
and
I
had
Sullivan's
not
going
to
because
we
didn't
do
Universal
mail
balloting
for
the
primary
and
the
Secretary
of
State's
office
was
is
really
oppositional
around
that
and
what
I
was
able
to
do
was
to
get
a
thinkability
study
that
would
come
back
to
the
legislature
in
December
of
2023
to
tell
us
how
we
roll
that
out
for
the
primary
as
well,
because
I
think
it's
the
more
consistency.
We
have
the
more.
C
That
includes
everyone.
We
have
to
have
that
kind
of
Engagement,
so
those
were
a
couple
of
the
things
that
I
worked
on,
but
I
worked
on
a
lot
of
things
like
I
said:
I
really
bought
for
the
just
cause,
eviction
bill,
I
bought
for
all
of
the
Burlington
Charter
changes,
because
I
really
feel
like
that.
Direct
democracy
that
comes
out
of
our
towns
shouldn't
be
stopped
in
the
legislature,
especially
A
legislature,
that
if
you
actually
look
through
it,
isn't
representative
of
every
of
the
demographics
of
Vermont.
C
C
No
words:
a
lot
of
my
work
includes
working
with
social
workers
on
family
basis
and
oftentimes
to
follow
they
bring
up
to
me
is
just
that:
there's
not
a
lot
of
them
and
they're
not
being
okay
enough,
but
there's
so
much
children
needs
help.
How
what's
your
response
to
that
and
like
what
plans
do
you
have
to
help
support
that?
Because
I
think
that's
a
very
big
issue
that
we're
happening
right
now,
yeah,
absolutely
and
certainly
the
the
bill
that
I
talked
about
to
really
expand.
C
C
You
know,
I
didn't
go
into
social
work,
because
I
thought
I
was
going
to
get
rich
doing
it
and,
as
I
said,
they
have
a
master's
degree
and
I
grants,
because
I
can't
afford
to
buy
here,
and
so
we
need
to
really
look
at
like
how
do
we
forgive
student
loan?
Whether
or
not
someone
is
working
within
a
qualified
Health
Organization,
perhaps
they
need
to
do
more
work
if
they're
working,
you
know
whether
it's
in
private
practice
or
whether
it's
with
DCF
or
maybe
it's
a
percentage.
C
If
you're
working
with
X
percentage
of
people
who
have
Medicaid
or
like
there
needs
to
be
some
Metric
that
allows
people
to
do
this,
work
for
multiple
angles
and
not
carry
I
mean
I.
I
have
sixty
thousand
dollars
of
student
loan.
Debt
and
I
have
paid
off
student
loan
when
I
was
in
grad
school
I
worked.
Full-Time
I
was
a
teacher
graduate
teaching
assistant
so
that
they
would
help
pay
for
my
education,
I
went
to
school
full-time
and
was
able
to
pay
down
my
loans
a
little.
D
C
The
reality
of
it
is
is
that
we
are
making
these
low-paying
jobs
that
are
largely
women
doing
this
work
work
just
unacceptable,
and
so
we
have
to
really
look
at.
How
do
we
incentivize
people
to
get
into
this
field
by
paying
the
better
wages
by
forgiving
their
loans
by
providing
support,
I
work
in
private
practice
now
and
I'm.
D
C
There's
a
lot
of
different
Avenues
I
have
a
really
great
event
at
Northern,
Vermont
University,
talking
to
first
generation
College
goers
about
like
what
they
wanted
to
do,
and
lots
of
them
are
like
no
I
want
to
go
to
business.
I
want
to
do
this.
I
want
to
make
money
because,
of
course,
because,
statistically
our
first
generation
College
quarters
are
people
who
grow
up
in
poverty
grew
up
in
a
working
class,
but
they
don't
want
that
for
themselves.
So
if
we
want
more
people
in
the
Human
Service.
D
C
We
have
to
pay
them.
We
have
to
make
that
a
field
where
they
are
not
going
to
strike
by
and
wonder
if
they
can
afford
their
rent
this
month
and
I
don't
have
the
magic
solution.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that,
from
my
own
experience
and
from
the
experience
of
the
people
that
I
work
for
I
will
be
there
every
day
advocating
from
that
lens.
C
A
D
D
I
D
I
D
E
E
Based
on
data,
we
haven't
hired
the
unarmed
officers,
but
it's
not
because
the
council
didn't
approve
that
months
ago.
It's
because
the
police,
department,
hadn't,
hired
and
I
understand
that
hiring
is
difficult.
But
you
know
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
question
there
and
the
other
thing
we
have
to
say
is
like
overall
crime
and.
B
A
C
So
when
it
was
politically
convenient
for
the
other
side
to
Champion
the
issue,
they
championed
it,
and
they
certainly
said
this
is
where
we're
going
into
credit
for
it.
When
2
000
people,
the
most
public
participants
of
any
city
council
meeting
in
history
of
the
city,
showed
up,
but
then,
when
I
become,
you
know
a
little
more
politically
dicey
or
when
the
police
Union
decides.
They
could
use
this
as
a
cheap,
talking
point
Express
here
in
our
neighborhoods,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
lying
back
from
it.
B
C
C
C
C
It's
crazy
I've
lived
here
since
1976.
crime
has
gone
up
and
down
our
house
got
broken
into
twice
10
years
ago,
and
it
hasn't
since
I
mean
it's
just
politicizing.
This
issue
has
gotten
us
nowhere
and
it
has
just
scared
people
away
from
Burlington.
It
has
scared
money
away
from
an
economic
development
away
from
Burlington,
and
it's
scaring
people
in
town
unnecessarily.
C
Was
elected
this
past
march
to
be
your
world
one
school,
commissioner,
and
so
our
biggest
hundred
right
now
is
fast
and
spawn.
So
we
can,
you
know,
put
our
our
kids
into
a
real
school
environment,
and
so
this
is
what
I
have
to
say:
oh
I'm,
just
a
little
update
from
the
board
as
a
whole,
with
the
board
and
community
volunteers
having
a
busy
and
Foreign.
C
Service
to
borrow
165
million
from
the
bank
as
it
is
needed,
so
we
need
this
amount
to
do
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
put
our
kids
and
or
sustainable.
You
know
normal
school
environment.
This
is
this
is
the
amount
that
we
need,
and
this
is
the
amount
that
we
are
pushing
for.
The
board
and
District
administration
are
continuing
to
pursue
state
and
federal
grants,
both
private
and
corporate
Collective
and
other
funding
possibilities
that
will
lessen
taxpayers
so
we're
not
to
borrow
the
full
165.
C
So
you
know
the
165
number
is
a
little
bit
of
reach,
and
so
we
are
pushing
forward
to
being
lowered.
But
you
know
time
works
out.
There
hasn't
been
to
maintain
this
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
but
we've
been
aware
that
you
know
tax
is
going
up,
is
a
huge
thing
that
might
hinder
people
to
vote
against
and
so
which
makes
sense
for
sure
some
of
it
that
are
on
state
grants
they
will
will
pursue
and
need
to
have
the
bond
capacity
in
place
to
be
able
to
buy
them.
C
So
this
is
why
it's
really
important
for
us
to
push
a
narrative
or
you
know
our
war
to
you
know,
vote
Yes,
but
also
you
know,
continue
the
conversation
outside
of
our
word
and
you
know
make
sure
that
we're
all
the
same
page,
because
that
was
really
about
the
students.
You
know
about
the
kids
in
our
community.
We
as
Community
how
to
come
together
to
make
sure
to
make
our
voters
understand
that
the
yes
is
so
important
and
there
are
so
many
ways
that
we
can
all
get
involved
in.
C
You
know
making
making
this
thing
come
true.
You
know
we
all
like
to
say
that
you
know
it
takes
you.
The
risk
to
you
know
raise
a
kid,
but
that
takes
a
village
to
you
know,
build
a
high
school
to
put
our
kids
in
them,
and
so
I
just
think
it's
really
crucial
coming
up
in
this
next
couple
of
weeks.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
very
evident
that
the
conversation
is
there
and
research.
We
just
have
to
push
it
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
right
with
our
kids.
C
Like
you
mentioned,
there
are
some
signs
here.
I
can
try
to
get
more
signs
for
us
and
bring
it
down
I.
This
is
my
first
time.
I've
actually
had
an
NPA
meeting.
I
have
a
lecture
around
this
time,
but
today
got
canceled
and
so
Kathy
asked
me
to
come
in
and
you
know
get
us
update
because
she
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
but
if
our
worst
size
where
needed,
then
you
can
definitely
reach
out
to
us
on
Kathy
or
I,
and
we
can
do
that
for
you
guys
yeah.
B
C
C
A
C
E
So,
just
to
put
it
out
there
on
the
record
I'm
all
for
voting,
yes
and
funding
and
building
a
new
store,
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
can
speak
to
maybe
some
opportunities
for
saving
that
this
school
will
bring
us
right.
So
if
we
have
a
more
efficient
school
like
we're,
gonna
save
a
little
bit
of
money
every
year
in
our
school
budget
and
I'm
also
curious
about
like
future,
proving
to
a
certain
extent.
So
it's
like
Technology's
change.
C
B
E
Our
heating
costs
and
our
and
all
that
stuff,
but
all
the
second
question
was
just
about
future
grouping
the
building
and
like
as
educational,
Styles,
change
and
understands
change.
Like
is
that
being
considered
so
that
when
we
want
to
renovate
the
high
school
10
years
from
now
to
incorporate
a
new
learning
style,
we
can
do
that
as
economically
as.
C
Possible
yeah
for
sure
I
think
that
you
know
right
now:
let's
just
focus
unless
it's
you
know
see
how
that
goes,
and
then
when
Changers
come
then
Tangers.
You
know
a
long
way,
but
I
guess
I
think
that
right
now
we're
just
trying
to
build
a
space
for
everyone,
make
sure
that
it's
really
that's
nice
and
inclusive
spot,
and
then
it
draws
on
people
to
our
town
and
then
you
know
just
create
a
sense
of.
C
Know
that
a
lot
of
our
work
is,
you
know,
making
sure
there's
spaces
for
individuals
or
kids,
who
are,
you
know,
can't
be
part
of
the
larger.
You
know
part
of
the
large
classrooms
you
know
having
more
spaces
for
them
to
you,
know,
learn
on
their
own
pace
and
I.
Think
that
is
really
important
for
us
to
just
you
know,
just
include
everyone.
Wellington
has
been,
we've
been
just
diverged
for
a
while
and
it's
you
know
we're
getting
high
school
honestly,
but.
C
B
I
I
C
Know
halted
daughter,
you
know,
let's
just
keep
talking
about
it
and
actually
put
action
towards
it
and
displacing
our
students
and
putting
them
in
a
Department
Store,
where
the
last
line
that
we
think
of
and
it's
just
like,
not
really
it's
like
the
appropriate
environment.
You
know
these
kids
are
in
the
department
store
that
are
in
cubicle
classrooms.
There's
no
windows
they're
in
downtown,
really
understand.
There's
a
lot
of
distractions
going
on
so
but
yeah.
It
is.
A
C
F
C
Said
we
shouldn't
talk
about
it,
okay,
all
right
sure,
okay,
so
I
really
appreciate
him.
I,
don't
remember
your
name!
What
you
spoke
about,
how
or
how
there
are
stories
that
circulate,
and
then
we
believe
those
stories,
and
so
one
of
the
stories
living
in
this
neighborhood.
That
circulates
is
that
they're
break-ins
I
mean
I've.
In
the
last
month,
there's
been
a
break-in
right
next
door
to
me
to
the
east,
to
the
west,
to
the
South
right.
In
my
you
know,
right
in
close
proximity
and
this
The
Narrative,
that's
going
on.
H
C
Stays
with
you,
it's
it's
a
I
know
this
isn't
extreme,
but
it's
a
little
bit
of
feeling
like
you've,
been
insulted
with
your
home
being
broken
into
so
what's
spoken
about
here.
Is
that
there's
not
enough
police
protection
and
then
there's
also
not
enough
police
to
have
a
quick
response
and
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
why
these
break-ins
keep
happening
and
I?
Don't
know
whether
that's
true
or
not,
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
just
a
story.
C
That's
being
circulated,
I,
don't
know
whether
really,
statistically,
whether
it's
there
are
more
break-ins
these
days
or
they're.
You
know
it's
been
going
on
for
a
while
and
I'm
just
become
aware
of
it.
I
don't
know,
but
I
I'm
like
to
talk
about
that
or
at
least
to
hear
perspective
on
that
I.
Don't
want
to
blame
anybody.
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
polarized
conversation
about
it.
I
just
want
to
bring
this
to
the
floor
so
that
we
can
have
some
attention
put
on
it
from
Consciousness
put
on.
D
C
It's
really
important
to
hear
the
discussion
and
the
voices
so
we're
caught
as
a
steering
and
we've
got
this
agenda,
but
we're
so
glad
that
you're
here
and
it's
really
important
to
hear
these
viewpoints
and
to
talk
with
one
another
trying
to
get
through
the
politicizing
and
the
in
misinformation.
So
it's.
A
A
C
A
B
C
8
has
come
and
we'll
go
and
they
can't
buy
one,
but
Ward
one
never
got
it
so
I
I'd
love
to
just
do
this.
We
have
a
point
according
to
the
bylaws
that
were
that
maybe
will
pass,
maybe
10
people
to
pass
the
bylaws,
so
I'd
love
to
do
it
right
now
and
with
your
permission
rather
than
read
the
bylaws
into
the
minutes,
I
I
would
do
the
PowerPoint
flip
charts
and
which
has
all
the
all
the
content
and
none
of
their
foreign.
C
C
C
C
Neighborhood
planning
assembly
shall
help
provide
citizens
with
information
concerning
City
programs
and
activities,
help
obtain
citizen
views
of
City
needs
and
help
provide
citizens
with
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
making
recommendations
with
respect
with
respect
government
mental
decisions,
including
allocation
of
revenues.
This
is
what
we're
supposed
to
be
able
to
do,
and
this
is
what
the
NPA
was
born
to
do.
C
In
addition,
the
mpa
should
be
organized
and
operated
for
the
following
purposes:
create
and
nurture
vibrant
Communications
between
residents
and
officials
of
the
city
and
institutions
within
the
ward,
maintain
and
enhance
the
quality
of
life
in
Ward.
One
ensure
that
the
voices
of
Waterland
residents
are
heard
in
all
matters
pertaining
to
life.
Therein
provide
a
vehicle
for
residents
of
one
to
collectively
act.
So
so
the
war
can
put
together
a
resolution
vote
on
it
and
bring
it
to
city
council
increase
the
level
of
citizen
participation
without
political
partisanship
in
the
Civic
sphere.
C
The
multitude
of
perspectives
held
by
those
who
participate.
I
think
that's
most
of
the
words
in
the
whole
thing,
so
maybe
the
next
page
will
be
shorter.
So
now
it's
like
membership
and
responsibilities
and
stuff
Everybody
14
years
and
older
living
in
Ward.
One
is
a
member
of
the
NPA
member
rights
participate
in
meetings.
Equal
vote
on
all
voting
matters,
including
election
of
the
steering
committee,
serve
on
the
steering
committee
receive
notices
in
minutes.
Non-Members
are
welcome
in
meetings
without
vote,
voting
Privileges
and
then
participate
in
speak
out
at
facilitating
discretion.
C
C
Article
three
steering
committee
should
have
three
to
seven
NPA
members.
We
currently
have
three,
maybe
we'll
have
four
before
the
end
of
this
meeting.
The
youth
members
and
college
age
membership
are
encouraged.
Election
will
be
at
the
March
meeting.
When
your
terms,
no
term
limits,
two-thirds
are
required
to
remove
a
steering
committee
member
and
must
be
warned
into
an
agenda.
If
it's
somebody
here,
the
group
wants
somebody
to
go
steering
committee.
Quorum
is
a
majority
of
steering
committee
members.
Meeting
notifications
of
248
hours
is
required.
C
C
To
replace
that
person,
but
any
time
that
there's
fewer
than
seven
people
on
this
or
fewer
than
eight
people
on
the
steering
committee
or
a
seven
and
somebody
wants
to
join,
they
should
speak
up
to
join
the
steering
committee
meeting
management,
neighborhood,
Outreach,
Municipal
monitoring
and
oversight,
recording
and
representation
to
the
all
Awards
Meeting.
Those
are
the
responsibilities
of
the
steering
committee
and
then,
and
then
there
is
we've
added
a
steering
committee
member
member
conflict
of
interest
statement.
C
This
is
a
little
controversial
when
I
was
originally
written
out,
but
the
idea
is
that
a
steering
committee
member
has
a
responsibility
to
disclose
to
the
steering
committee
potential
conflicts
of
interest
concerning
the
agenda
and
voting
items.
And
then
the
steering
committee
makes
a
decision
is
truly
a
conflict
of
interest.
Conflict
of
interest
does
not
include
any
interest
that
is
not
greater
than
that
of
any
other
person
is
generally
affected
by
the
outcome
of
the
matter.
C
C
That
doesn't
mean
that
that
the
steering
Community
member
has
to
not
Advocate
during
a
meeting,
but
they
should
say:
I
have
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
I
do
rent
it
out.
So
you
should
be
aware
that
that's
that
may
be
where
I'm
comfortable
now
I
may
have
some
Prejudice
and
bias
in
that
regard.
That's
really
all
that
the
copter
Community
or,
if
you're,
going
to
make
money
off
of
it.
C
Article
four
amendments,
20
days,
notice,
warning
two-thirds
majority
of
the
NPA
non-discrimination
and
public
meeting
public
meeting
laws.
We
just
decided
just
copy
and
paste
what's
on
the
city,
non-discrimination,
public
meeting
statements
and
that's
what
we
have
in
our
in
ours
and
that
is
the
proposed
bylaw.
F
F
C
So
at
final
memory-
and
it's
been
a
while
that
used
to
be
in
our
bylaws
in
order
to
prevent
someone
who
might
be
an
elected
official
from
in
some
way
sort
of
dominating
a
meeting
through
through
the
steering
committee,
or
you
know,
politicizing,
on
the
mpa
by
virtual,
conserving
both
on
the
city
council
as
well
as
other
ceremony.
So
my
suggestion
would
be
to
add
something
into
the
copy
of
Interest
permission
to
prevents
sitting
City,
councilors
and
sitting
the
school.
D
C
Officials
get
plenty
of
voice
and
they
are
asked
to
come
to
npas
to
provide
reports.
I,
don't
think
they
need
to
have
that
voice
further
and
they're
on
the
city
council
or
on
the
school
board.
I,
don't
think
they
need
to
voices
further
Amplified
through
and
their
opinions
further
Amplified
by
being
Syrian
community
members
as
steering
community
members.
C
I
think
you
know,
your
role
is
to
run
or
what
Jonathan
just
described
a
good
public
process
where
neighbors
can
talk
freely,
and
you
know
I
data
on
the
city
council
and
it's
been
extremely
political.
It's
pretty
political
right
now,
yeah
and
I
think
we
all
trust
our
elected
officials.
You
know
not
to
do
something
like
politicize,
the
NPA
but
I
think
there's
a
risk
and
I
think
we
should
build
that
into
the
bylaws
to
prevent
the
mpas
from
becoming
politicized.
Okay,
thank
you.
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C
A
C
Repeat
for
you,
Jake
was
suggesting
that
the
mayor,
also,
you
know
I-
think
department
heads
probably
should
be
appointed
department.
Heads
appointed
by
the
mayor
subject
to
you
know.
Approval
by
the
city
council
should
also
become
prevented
from
being
serious
committee.
Members
I,
don't
think
Ryan
can
file
city
employees
should
I
think
that's
different,
but
department
heads.
C
D
C
D
H
G
C
C
H
H
C
D
A
C
E
E
A
E
B
D
C
I
I
So
apologies
that
I'm
not
in
there
in
person
and
I,
might
see
if
importance
is
still
meeting
when
I
finish
my
update
but
yeah
so
redistricting
I
think
is
the
first
thing
that
I
was
supposed
to
talk
about.
You
may
have
seen
some
of
my
front
porch
Forum
notes
on
this,
but
there
we
really
I
think
as
a
council
Ronaldo
is
as
partisan
as
folks
think
we
are
I.
Think
we've
been
very
collaborative
on
this,
trying
to
figure
out
what
really
made
the
most
sense
for
the
city.
B
I
I
I
So
we
started
working
mostly
as
a
smaller
group,
which
has
been
Mark
Barlow
been
Traverse,
Joe,
McGee
and
myself,
because
we
kind
of
represent
all
parts
of
the
city
and
across
the
party
and
what
we
got
to
is
to
stick
to
an
eight
board
map.
So
there's
a
few
different
configurations
of
the
eight
Ward
map
we're
definitely
getting
rid
of
Ward
8
as
it's
been
configured.
I
I
I
I
I
The
next
map
is
I
said
you
can't
see
it
on
the
map,
but
what
actually
changed?
Is
we
cut
some
of
the
West
Side
off,
but
then
I
think
we
actually
have
a
little
bit
more
of
on-campus
I.
Think
there's
it's
not
on
the
map,
but
I
think
there's
like
a
building
across
from
Highway
to
that
sneaks
into
Ward.
One
then,
on
the
next
map,
it's
a
slightly
bigger
chunk,
oh
nope,
sorry
I'm
getting
confused
between
this
and
the
PowerPoint,
so
it
looks
like
an
option,
one.
I
Those
are
just
different,
different
things.
We
don't
get
anything
across
Highway,
two,
the
third
one
which
says
option
two
is
labeled
option.
Two
right:
we
get
a
small
chunk
of
what
I
believe
is
called
athletic
campus
across
the
highway
option.
Three,
we
get
a
bigger
chunk
of
athletic
campus.
If
you
keep
scrolling
down,
which
means
we
lose
a
little
bit
more
of
the
Hill
section
and
then
option.
I
I
I'll
pause
for
yep,
so
that's
option.
Three
two
keep
scrolling
down
one
more:
it's
really
hard
to
see
it
yeah,
and
then
this
is
the
most
drastic
where
that
Riverside
chunk
is
cut
out
of
Ward
one
and
we
get
most
of
athletic
campus
I
can
just
talk
through
this
in
the
PowerPoint.
What
that
means
the
the
reason
this
matters
to
a
lot
of
people
is
Ward.
6
is
about
to
have
a
lot
more.
I
The
same
option
two
makes
Ward
one
thirty
three
percent
on
campus
student
68
for
Ward,
6
and
20
for
Ward
8..
That's
the
one
that
I'm
kind
of
leaning
to
as
a
bit
of
a
compromise,
not
least
because
Ward
one
does
have
not
amazing.
Voter
turnout.
We've
obviously
worked
on
it
over
the
past
few
years
and
I
think
there's
been
some
interesting
braces
that
has
helped
with
turnout.
I
If
we
have
such
a
high
on
campus
population,
because
Ward
one
has
a
lot
of
off-campus
students
which
Ward
6
does
not
have
word,
six
has
a
lot
more
single-family
homes
than
this
configuration
of
Ward.
One,
for
example,
would
have
that
I
think
option.
Two
is
just
a
good
balance
in
terms
of
still
having
a
student,
heavy
Ward,
I
would
guess
probably
about
50
percent,
which
I
think
is
a
good
thing,
but
not
having
it
be
quite
a
student
heavy.
As
than
replicating
some
of
the
problems
that
we
heard.
I
Keith
talk
about
a
lot
with
Ward
8
but
curious
to
hear
what
you
all
think.
I
know
those
Maps
went
by
kind
of
quickly,
but
really
the
difference
is
for
the
first
ones,
how
much
of
the
Hill
section
versus
just
across
the
highway
for
Highway
2
for
the
athletic
campus.
We
have
and
then
the
fourth
option,
being
the
most
drastic,
including
Riverside
in
ward,
two.
B
I
I
I
C
G
C
D
C
C
C
I
And
one
more
piece
of
context
that
I
should
have
said
is
Ward
one
has
to
become
smaller
if
we
keep
it
the
reason
I
originally
really
liked.
The
seven
Ward
map
is
we're
the
biggest
Ward
by
far,
which
means
we're
a
little
bit
underrepresented
because
you
just
get
me
for
an
extra
thousand
people,
but
we,
if
we
keep
eight
words,
we
have
to
cut
Ward
one,
because
it's
so
much
bigger.
B
C
I
H
H
You
mentioned
that
and
my
real
concern
is
that
what
gets
gutted
out
of
Ward
one
is
the
predominantly
stable
residential
neighborhood
of
Ward
one,
and
so
we
then
end
up
with
a
more
renter
population
and
very
few
homeowners
and
I
think
that
that
is
a
factor
that
I
hope
redistricting
will
look
at
the
because
I
think
you're.
Looking
for
stability-
and
you
already
mentioned
the
fact
that
voter
turnout
is
an
issue,
and
although
it
was
two
years
ago
when
I
went
door
to
door,
I
found
that
there
were,
it
was
a
turnstile.
H
I
One
still
has
quite
a
bit
of
diversity
in
it
like
even
just
looking
at
my
apartment,
complex
hildred,
it
has
a
lot
of
graduate
students,
but
it
doesn't
have
as
far
as
I
know
any
undergraduate
students.
We
do
still
have
a
lot
of
single-family
homes
in
this,
as
we
know,
kind
of
on
that
East
Eastern
side
that
goes
towards
Patchen,
Road
and
I.
Think
part
of
the
and
I
agree
with
you
on
the
natural
boundary
the
the
kind
of
question
mark
on
that
is.
I
This
we
talked
about
this
is
I.
Certainly
like
those
are.
You
know
like
folks,
that
is
a
voting
block
like
there's
a
very
big
voting
block.
Those
folks,
like
you
said
they
turn
out
for
voting
a
lot,
but
I
think
they
would
rather
be
moved
together
than
split
up,
and
so
that's
that
was
part
and
again
we
have
to
cut
somewhere
right
like
Ward.
One
can't
stay
can't
stay
with
the
limits
that
it
has
and
there's
we're
at
the
edge
of
the
city.
B
C
C
A
study
done
in
the
80s
that
that
really
focused
on
the
historic
nature
of
the
old
North
Bank.
It
was
called
Western,
Willard
North
of
Pearl
and
that
really
defined.
Historically,
the
old
North
End
west
of
Willard
is
the
old
North.
End
east
of
Willard
is
Ward
one
and
that's
really
the
way
it
ought
to
be
and
taking
the
Henry
Street
neighborhood
Loomis
Street.
You
know
all
all
those
those
blocks
out
of
one
one,
not
really
guts
word
one
in
a
way.
C
I
Earhart,
sorry,
just
because
I
want
to
get
your
answer
to
this
I'm
going
to
interrupt
I
hope,
that's
okay,
which
is
that
we
did
break
up
the
block
right
so
that
that
block
that
campus
block
is
we're
taking
parts
of
it.
So
my
question
is:
there's
no
way
in
Ward
eight,
so
either
we
take
part
of
that
neighborhood
out
or
we
take
all
of
it
out.
If
we
have
an
eight
work
map,
because
Ward
one
is
too
big,
and
so
the
only
way
to
keep
Ward
one
north
of
Willard.
I
Sorry
east
of
Willard
north
of
pearl
is
to
have
a
seven
Ward
map
which
I
I,
don't
think
I'm
good
I,
just
they're
no,
like
I,
don't
think.
We've
got
the
votes
for
that,
because
the
old
North,
End
and
North
new
North
End
counselors,
don't
like
that
because
it
takes
a
chunk
of
the
so
I
guess.
My
question
is
what
what
knowing
that
we
there's?
No
eight
word
map
that
makes
that
work
even
with
splitting
up
the
census
block.
What
would
you
like
to
see.
C
A
C
I
I
A
lot
of
folks
didn't
like
that.
They
thought
that
it
was
really
unfair
that
some
folks
would
just
get
one
representative
and
other
folks
got
two
so
that,
and
that
just
became
enough
of
an
issue
when
at
least
some
of
the
surveys
showed
that
two
awards
that
folks
wanted
to
have
two
Representatives,
that
we
decided
to
abandon
that
model.
A
I
I
Sorry,
why?
We?
What
basically,
why
we
went
to
the
why
we
chose
the
eight
Ward
model
and
giving
these
same
things
that
you're
looking
at
to
the
council
and
letting
them
give
feedback.
Based
on
that,
we
might
have
another
smaller
working
group,
which
again
is
those
four
counselors
that
I
named,
including
myself
or
or
we'll
just
move
forward
with
that
being
enough
direction
for
the
map
makers.
I
So
definitely
continue
to
give
me
personally
feedback
by
email
for
what
folks
want.
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
hard,
because
I
think
that
not
you
know
like
like
I,
said,
there's
folks
in
the
room,
who
would
very
much
disagree
with
Earhart
on
having
a
one
vote,
representative
I.
Think
there's
no
good
answer.
I
agree.
I
really,
like
the
seven
word
map
I,
think.
Unfortunately,
it
only
made
sense
for
Ward
one
and
not
for
the
other
Awards.
F
I
F
F
I
Yeah
one
of
the
proposals
is
definitely
and
I.
Think
folks,
don't
again
like
the
different
number
of
words
versus
not.
But
there
is
a
thing
where
we
could
just
have
four
districts
with
three
counselors
each
which
would
get
to
a
similar
place
and
make
the
boundaries
and
the
students
a
little
bit
harder.
I
think
other
folks
had
a
really
hard
time
with
that,
because
some
folks
wanted
us
to
have
12
single
Ward
districts
and
the
smaller
it
is.
F
I
Right
yeah,
I
think
before,
and
somebody
else
emailed
me
and
said:
hey
stop
thinking
about
what
the
mayor
will
veto
and
just
do
what
makes
sense,
but
with
us
being
two
counselors
down
and
knowing
that
some
of
the
folks
agree
with
him.
That
starts
to
make
the
veto
that
overriding
of
Vetoes
look
very
unlikely.
I
C
B
C
Thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Mila
Brandt
I
serve
on
the
police
commission
I
year,
two
and
two
and
three
year
term.
I
previously
served
on
the
committee
to
review
police
and
policies.
I
also
served
on
various
joint
committees
between
the
commission
and
the
city's
Public
Safety
Committee,
reviewing
the
rfps
for
the
Consultants
that
research
Community
engagement
and
also
the
CNA
consultant
that
reviewed
the
police
department.
B
C
B
C
Am
our
police
commission
meetings
are
held
once
a
month?
They
are
generally
held
on
the
fourth
Tuesdays
of
the
month.
The
schedule
for
the
meetings
can
be
found
online,
go
to
the
city's
website,
click
on
calendar
government
meetings
and
you'll
see
not
only
police
commission,
but
all
your
commissions,
as
well
as
your
city
council
commissions,
and
when
you
click
on
the
meeting
date,
there's
always
an
area
to
click
on
the
agenda
which
takes
you
to
what
is
called
board
docs,
and
you
can
see
the
agenda
for
the
meeting
for
the
meetings.
C
You
can
see
the
minutes
for
the
meetings
and
you
can
see
any
attachments
of
various
reports
that
are
discussed
during
the
meetings.
So
that's
how,
in
general,
you
get
to
information.
So
a
couple
of
quick
things
I
want
to
talk
about,
is
number
one
say:
click
fix
we
all
have
heard
of
it.
I
hope.
If
you
have
not
it's
a
pretty
crucial
app
and
the
reason
I
mention
it
now
is
because
of
the
massive
amount
of
drug
use
that
we
have
going
on
in
Burlington.
Needles
are
everywhere.
C
The
best
way
to
properly
safely
dispose
of
needles
is
to
use
C
click
fix
report
it
that
way
and
they
will
come
and
pick
them
up
Also.
Regarding
drugs,
there
is
a
online
tip
line.
So
when
you
go
to
the
city's
website,
click
on
the
Departments
tab,
click,
police
department
and
right
on
that
page
under
the
modified
BPD
priority
response
plan,
which
you
can
click
on
and
find
out
more
about
that
response
plan.
C
If
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
but
there
is
an
area
that
says:
reporting
any
and
all
suspicious
activity
helps
to
solve
and
prevent
crime
suspicious
or
drug
activity.
It
says,
call
dispatch
or
submit
tips
online.
Don't
call
dispatch
dispatch
is
not
going
to
get
you.
Anyone
that's
going
to
come,
stop
a
drug,
that's
the
reality
of
our
situation
and
it's
actually
been
that
way
for
a
very,
very
long
time.
C
It
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
there
was
a
lot
of
distrust
and
anger
in
the
community
when
drug
issues
and
certain
Wards
were
not
quite
frankly,
being
addressed,
but
that
tip
line
is
crucial
because
what
it
does
is
it
helps
the
police
department
trap
where
drug
activity
is
occurring.
You
will
be
asked
to
provide
the
names
and
addresses
of
individuals
if
you
know
them
so,
for
example,
sometimes
people
live
next
to
houses
that
are,
unfortunately,
the
sites
of
large
amounts
of
activity,
and
so
they
report
comings
and
goings.
C
If
you
can
report
cars,
especially
out
of
state,
we
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
out
of
state
individuals
coming
in
selling
drugs
in
our
community.
If
you
can
safely
get
license
plates
time
of
day
location,
this
information
is
tracked
to
help
the
department
make
a
determination
as
to
where
they
need
to
focus
investigations.
C
The
police
commission
meetings
that
General
will
receive
achieve
support
from
acting
Chief
Murad,
which
I
want
to
review
a
little
bit
more
detail
momentarily.
We
do
updates
from
the
commission,
based
on
things
that
we
are
working
on
directive
updates,
working
on
the
complaint
policy
oversight
projects
and
also
we
have
speakers
and
various
presentations,
a
review
of
use,
of
course,
incidents.
Although
the
report
that
you
have
access
to
does
not
include
the
names
of
any
individuals,
it
has
General
descriptions
of
what
occurred
age
and
race
of
the
individual
and
gender.
C
D
C
C
Future
agenda
items
and
commendations
people
have
positive
experiences
with
police
officers.
We
want
to
hear
those
stories
and
we
will
talk
about
them
publicly.
At
the
meeting
we
had
a
mental
health
Summit,
not
actually
us,
but
the
police
commission,
based
on
the
explosion
of
mental
health
issues.
Mental
health
issues
drive
a
lot
a
lot
of
what
we
see
drug
abuse
issues,
substance,
abuse
issues
bribe
a
lot
of
what
we
see.
So
when
we
talk
about
the
increase
of
crimes
of
opportunity,
we
talk
about
the
larcenies,
the
increase
in
stolen
cars.
C
So
we
have
all
these
larcenies,
but
we
have
the
root
causes
of
mental
health
and
drugs
and
as
we
can
all
imagine,
if
you
have
mental
health
issues,
let's
say
you
need
medications,
you
don't
have
the
stability
or
the
help
to
stay
on
your
medications
and
you
get
in
trouble
and
you
get
arrested
and
you
get
put
in
jail.
Well,
that's
just
gonna
make
your
situation
not
stable.
Then
you
throw
in
homelessness
right,
because
people
with
mental
health
issues
or
drug
abuse
issues
are
more
likely
to
be
homeless,
so
it
is
all
related.
C
C
Have
to
be
looking
at
the
root
causes,
because
incarceration
is
a
very
temporary
solution.
It
is
not
the
end
game
and
if
you
incarcerate
someone
without
giving
them
help
with
their
addiction
or
without
doing
their
mental
health
issue,
when
they're
released
what
happens
right
and
we've
seen
that
over
and
over
again,
we
have
a
group
of
people
in
our
community
who
are
quote:
unquote,
repeat
offenders
due
to
these
very
issues,
so
the
on
August
23rd
and
4th
the
City
of
Burlington,
along
with
the
United
Way
of
Northwestern
Vermont,
hosted
a
virtual
mental
health
Summit.
C
This
included
65
and
10
attendees
over
the
course
of
two
days
learned
about
our
local
system
care
from
the
Howard
Center's,
school-based
clinicians
or
crisis
services
and
age.
Well,
discussions
were
centered
on
what
role
the
city
has
in
supporting
the
local
system
of
care
and
affecting
the
necessary
changes
to
increase
access
and
services
for
all
of
Chittenden
County
I.
This
is
crucial
reading.
It
is
crucial
reading
for
everyone
who
I
think
we
all
need
to
understand
this
issue
and
where
we
are
at
and
where
we
need
to
go.
C
I
will
be
emailing
this
out
so
that
it
gets
posted
with
your
minutes
and
you
can
read
it
at
your
leisure.
The
police
commission
did
our
annual
report.
It
contains
statistics.
It
contains
summaries
of
the
directives
that
we
were
working
on,
including
our
vote
to
say:
hey,
please
do
this
mental
mental
health
Summit
because
it's
needed
in
our
city.
It
has
a
summary
of
the
different
speakers
that
we've
had
where
we
try
to
educate
people
on
the
different
issues
that
are
occurring
in
Burlington.
C
Also
things
like
officer,
Wellness,
informed
Trauma
from
an
officer's
point
of
view,
as
well
as
the
Public's
point
of
view
to
make
people
understand
what
officers
are
going
through
when
they're
out
there,
because
they
have
to
deal
with
some
really
when
they
drug
od's
suicides,
the
shootings
that
we
have
and
other
violent
acts
shoot
instant
stop.
Tomorrow,
we
don't
need
to
have
one
more
shooting.
Someone
emailed
me
said:
someone
was
almost
being
to
death
with
a
baseball
bat.
Why
isn't
that?
C
C
By
the
city
statistician,
our
main
meeting
reviewed
their
report.
The
I
will
email
that
report
too,
so
that
you
can
read
it
at
your
convenience
in
more
detail.
What
else
do
we
have?
We
had
a
presentation
from
raw
Interfaith
action
and
they
did
a
guide
to
community
engagement
at
local
police
departments,
I'll
also
email,
that
I
thought
it
was
a
really
great
introduction.
Talking.
B
C
What
we
expect
as
a
community
from
policing
across
the
state
of
Vermont,
and
also
what
policing
should
include
very
good,
read
I
strongly
recommend
that,
and
now,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
putting
up
the
Chiefs
report,
the
other
thing
that
is
reviewed
each
meeting
is
a
report
that
is
given
by
the
chief.
Yes,
if
you
click
on
that-
and
thank
you
so
the
chief
presents
this
once
a
month
at
the
meetings.
This
is.
This
is
crucial.
C
Viewing
and
I
actually
I
recommend
sometimes
that
people
view
it
with
a
sound
off,
because
I
I
believe
these
reports
have
crucial
information,
but
sometimes
we
we're
talking
about
the
politics
of
the
situation.
Sometimes
it's
just
too
much
politics
too
many
games
being
played
with
the
numbers
and
let's
just
give
the
people
the
information
that
they
need.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
page
and
we'll
kind
of
go
through
the
pages,
this
is
keeping
track
of
the
sworn
officer.
Count.
Officers
continue
to
leave.
C
One
of
my
big
issues-
I
talk
about
frequently,
is
lack
of
public
engagement.
We
got
into
this
situation
because
we
didn't
have
proper
engagement
with
our
department.
It's
a
two-way
street.
You
cannot
force
people
to
trust,
police
or
respect
police.
It
has
to
be
earned,
especially
given
some
of
the
situations
that
we
have.
We
still
have
two
outstanding
use
of
force
cases
involving
black
bodies
that
have
dragged
on
for
years.
That's
not!
Okay!
C
You
want
to
take
a
positive
step,
resolve
that
resolve
that
and
other
things
too
so
I
always
always
talk
about
that
officers
are
leaving
because
they
don't
feel
wanted
or
respected.
No
one
fired
them
that
left
of
their
own
accord.
So
how
do
we
fix
that?
We
need
lateral
transfers
to
build
this
department
back,
but.
C
And
you'll
want
to
stay
in
the
profession
but
move
somewhere
else.
There's
a
lot
of
competition
for
jobs,
including
in
the
Northeast.
So,
in
addition
to
the
salary
increases
the
sign-on
bonuses,
we
have
to
be
working
on
improving
the
environment,
because
if
you
Google
Burlington
Vermont,
what
are
you
going
to
see
right?
So,
if
you're,
an
officer
that
wants
to
come
here,
which
we
want
people
to
do
that
because
we
can't
just
have
new
officers
coming
fresh
out
of
the
academy-
has
to
be
in
the
mix
it's
crucial.
C
C
This
is
a
summary
of
the
revised
priority
response
plan.
If
you've
ever
looked
at
it
crucial
viewing
tells
you
what
are
considered
priority.
One
two
and
three:
these.
This
means
that
you
might
call
something
in
and
it's
stacked
like.
If
someone
is
not
intermediate
danger,
you
are
not
necessarily
going
to
get
an
officer
right
away,
but
if
it's
stacked,
you
should
get
someone
to
reach
back
out
to
you
now,
of
course,
we've
all
heard
the
stories
where
that
is
not
happening.
C
I,
don't
know
how
to
prove
what
the
extent
of
this
problem
is,
but
it
is
a
concern.
So
if
no
one
gets
back
to
you,
I
would
use
the
online
incident
reporting.
This
is
different
from
the
drug
tip
line,
but
the
online
incident
reporting
makes
sure
that
what
you're
concerned
about
gets
reported
next
page.
Please,
okay,
incident
volumes
right.
We
hear
a
lot
of
stuff
about
the
numbers.
What
are
the
numbers
really?
So
the
numbers
are.
C
If
we
take
a
look
at
Trends
over
the
last
several
years,
going
back
to
2017
incident
is
down,
although
22
is
up
from
the
previous
year
now,
2020
and
2021
were
coveted
years,
so
the
beginning
of
2022
through
now
we're
in
our
new
normal
right
we're
we're
out
of
covid.
We
got
the
vaccines
so
we're
starting
to
see
the
incidents
go
up.
C
C
I
H
C
C
Has
some
limitations
and
it
doesn't
always
track?
One
of
the
things
I
found
out
as
a
commissioner
is
that
there
are
some
things
that
our
officers
do,
that
aren't
properly
tracked
and
that's
a
problem,
and
that
is
something
long-range
that
we
really
need
to
think
about,
because
we
should
be
able
to
have
a
really
cool
idea
of
what
officers
are
doing.
I'll.
C
Kid
bar
kid
bar
is
family
car
kids
supposed
to
be
hung
by
a
certain
time.
Kid
doesn't
show
up.
Families
like
texting,
calling
kids
aren't
responding
family
reports,
the
car
stolen.
Please
find
a
kid
another
child
with
a
car,
bring
it
back
to
the
family.
Now
we
gotta
follow
up
to
really
want
to
pursue
and
press
charges
right.
That's
a
follow-up!
C
That's
something
an
officer
has
to
do,
but
you
can't
log
into
valve
core
because
he
does
that
he
or
she
makes
themselves
unavailable
for
another
call,
and
they
don't
want
to
do
that
so
they're
out
there
doing
some
work,
that's
not
actually
counted
they're
going
to
kind
of
follow
what
I'm
saying
there.
That's
a
concern
to
me.
That's
a
concern
to
me,
especially
when
you're
complaining
that
everything's
not
being
tracked,
you
know,
but
how
do
we
fix
that?
How
do
we
fix
that?
So
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
C
So
this
is
a
very
interesting
page
once
again
going
back
to
2017
and
tracking
various
things.
Now
we
have
something's
pretty
much
holding
steady,
some
things
down.
Larceny
big
jump,
larceny
drugs,
addiction
right,
the
crime
that
accompanies
that
mental
health,
big
jump,
overdoses,
big
jump
and
probably
under
counted,
robberies,
slight
jump,
sexual
assault
level
in
the
same
stolen
vehicles,
big
jump,
the
stolen
vehicles.
This
is
all
across
the
state,
and
this
is
Easy
Pickins
too
many
of
these
vehicles
are
not
blocked
too.
C
Many
of
these
vehicles
have
things
in
them
that
are
visible,
that
encourage
people
to
try
to
get
into
them.
People
will
leave
their
car
running
with
their
keys
in
while
they
want
to
get
a
coffee
at
a
convenience
store.
There
are
literally
people
waiting
at
these
convenience
stores
to
just
want
to
take
the
car
drive
away.
You
can
come
into
the
cargo.
C
C
C
G
C
C
Oh
I
appreciate
that
next
page,
okay,
five
year
averages
at
the
bottom
done:
fire
stolen
vehicle,
hey
Bennington,
did
everyone
read
about
Bennington
Bennington
has
what
a
third
of
the
population
they
have
17
gunfire
incidents
here
today,
yeah,
so
it's
not
just
steps
now
that
doesn't
necessarily
make
us
feel
better
that
it's
not
just
us,
but
it
should
keep
the
politics
out
of
it.
This
is
not
because
of
some
vote.
C
This
is
bigger
and
we
need
to
be
aware
of
what's
going
on
around
us
in
our
state
in
our
country,
and
we
need
to
know
what
other
Solutions
people
are
trying
right.
We
need
to
be
keeping
up
on
that
to
know
what's
being
successful
in
other
places,
and
can
we
try
or
can
we
do
something
different?
We
need
to
have
that
and
the
next
page
I
don't
think.
There's
too
much
after
this
gunfire
instance
is
a
pretty
interesting
graph.
Color-Coded
White
is
a
gunfire
incident.
C
H
C
Year,
I
do
believe
the
murder
suicide
that
we
we
had.
That
was
something
very
different
and
should
not
have
been
lumped
in
with
the
others.
It
should
have
been
discussed
differently
and
I
think
there
was
a
failure
of
leadership
there
and
then
I
think
the
last
two
are
related
to
building
back
the
department
and
you
can
just
kind
of
flip
through
those
talking
about
this
is
the
total
numbers
of
officers,
a
total
number
of
patrols.
They
are
maintaining
detectives.
C
They
don't
want
to
move
detectives
to
the
road
because
we
need
detectives
doing
the
investigation
finding
out
who's
responsible
for
something
drug
rings
and
drug
activity,
finding
out
who's,
responsible
and
capturing
people
who
are
doing
shootings
and
the
killing.
So
that's
very,
very
important
and
if
you
can
scroll
down
through
the
rest
of
it,
building
back
the
capacity
apparently
six
csos
through
csls.
As
in
this
report
and
scrolling
down
again,
the
csls
have
been
crucial,
crucial,
crucial.
C
They
allow
an
officer
if
it's
a
non-violent
situation,
an
officer
can
be
released
to
follow
up
on
something
else.
While
a
CSL
works
with
an
individual
who
needs
who
needs
services
that
don't
require
a
sworn
officer
who
doesn't
have
the
training
to
deal
with
that
tears
of
response?
That's
worth
reading
at
your
leisure
and
if
you
can
scroll
down
I,
think
we're
near
the
end.
If
not
a
recruitment
officer
has
been
training.
C
This
drove
me
crazy,
because
we
know
we
don't
have
good
records
as
to
who
actually
got
what
training
that
came
out
in
the
CNA
report.
That
has
come
up
a
number
of
times
at
police
commission
meetings
where
we're
talking
about
racial
disparities,
so
I
feel
this
is
a
little
bit
but
happy
to
talk
further
if
anybody's
interested
and
we
scroll
down
there.
This
is
the
new
contract
starting
pay,
top
pay,
hiring
bonuses,
part
of
the
build
back,
and
if
you
could
scroll
down
and
that's
it
so.
C
Based
on
what
people
were
talking
about
earlier
in
the
questions
that
they
had
earlier,
I
felt
that
it
definitely
warranted
viewing
the
whole
thing.
It
is
a
very
important
report,
although
I
don't
always
agree
with
how
it's
presented
right,
because
we
don't
want
the
manipulation
of
numbers.
We
don't
want
the
politics,
we
want
to
see,
what's
actually
happening,
but
it's
available
to
you
once
a
month
and
if
you
have
problems
finding
it,
let
me
know:
I
will
download
a
copy
and
make
sure
that's
emailed
as
well.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
E
C
A
G
G
G
G
This
is
probably
I'm
trying
to
think
about
a
quarter
mile
to
the
east
of
the
Bayberry
project
that
Sierra
Lynn
has
gone
over
the
last
five
years
or
so.
This
was
a
project
that
was
originally
constructed.
Around
2000.
All
of
the
homes
are
modular
homes,
they
are
all
single
family,
except
for
and
I'll
just
kind
of
point
up
here
this
this
unit
in
red.
These
will
be
old
units
all
the
red
here.
So
this
is
an
old
apartment.
G
Building
with
three
units
and
the
rest
are
all
just
single
family,
Modular,
Homes,
single
floor
kind
of
they're
kind
of
reaching
their
end
of
life
so
and
some
of
the
infrastructure
is
beginning
that
you
know
it's
been
taken
a
toll
on
so
you
know,
I
think
this
is
a
prime
opportunity
to
come
in.
Do
a
Redevelopment,
maybe
maximize
some
of
the
density
in
here,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
meet
some
of
the
housing
needs
and
you
know
match
some
of
the
newer
development.
That's
happened
in
the
area
recently
as
well.
G
The
units
and
I've
got
some
examples
of
the
Bayberry
units,
which
are
the
same
condo
units
that
you
can
see
are
actually
on
the
Grove
Street
again
about
a
quarter
mile
down
from
here
kind
of
the
same
setup
where
they
have.
You
know
access
directly
on
grocery,
but
there's
no
driveways
coming
into
them
and
so
it'll
be
kind
of
a
similar
situation
where
you
still
have
the
remaining
access
of
this
Loop
and
then
all
of
the
units
themselves
are
fed
off
of
those
those.
G
So
in
total
right
now,
there's
15
units
plus
the
three
apartment
buildings.
So
it's
18
total
units
and
we're
proposing
13
duplexes,
which
would
be
26
units.
Four
of
these
would
be
inclusionary
units
under
the
required
regulations,
and
this
is
meeting
density
based
on
the
parcel.
You
know
this
General
parse
here
and
I-
think
it's
a
small
portion
of
parcel
that's
across
Grove
Street,
so
and
with
that
I
guess.
What
we're
really
here
for
is
to
get
a
little
bit
of
feedback
on
this
project.
Generally
answer
some
questions.
G
We
understand
that
it's
really
conceptual
for
us.
We
haven't
even
met
with
the
city
or
anything
yet
at
this
point,
so
we
want
to
get
a
little
feedback
see
if
we
need
to
course
correct
it
all
and
then
take
it
from
there
and
and
we'll
probably
present
this
to
the
city.
In
the
upcoming
days,
where
we
have
a
technical
review
committee
meeting
tomorrow,
we'll
get
some
feedback
there
and
we'd
like
to
take
the
two
kind
of
mesh
them
together
and
see
what
we
can
do,
while
still
you
know
making
this
a
feasible
Endeavor.
A
G
There's
a
certain
number
of
units
already
that
are
vacant
just
number
one
because
of
like
we
talked
about
kind
of
end
of
life.
We've
also,
you
know
somehow
yeah
just
have
not
renewed
on
leases
or
things
like
that.
So
yeah
there
are
some
that
are
obviously
still
plenty
of
people
still
living
there,
and
this
is
a
process
that
you
know,
I
I,
think
it's
a
standard
process.
G
I,
don't
typically
deal
with
that
portion
of
it
on
I'm
the
site.
Engineer!
Sorry
about
that!
So,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
a
typically
it's
a
year
to
plus
long
process
to
to
begin
notifications
and
I
mean
I,
don't
think
we'd
even
start
that
process
until
we're
farther
along
with
you
know
getting
approvals
with
the
city.
So
realistically,
maybe
a
two-year
you
know
before
we
would
see
even
a
shovel
on
the
ground
or
something
like
that.
You.
H
I'm
really
concerned:
I
I,
you
know
I,
it's
not
like
I,
don't
like
SD
Ireland,
because
you
do
so
much
for
the
community,
but
you
know
with
Bayberry
common.
We
asked
if
there
would
be
some
family
units
and
no
and
I'm
not
sure
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
the
duplexes
sound
good,
but
I
really
think
that
I
want
this
to
be
family
oriented
and
I'm,
really
worried.
The
other
Jake
asked
the
question
about
the
displacement
of
some
of
those
people
that
live
there.
H
I
understand
there's
a
process,
but
we
we
have
people
that
don't
have
places
to
live.
We
know
the
affordability
factor
and
the
sheer
thought
of
displacing
people,
knowing
that
there's
limited
places
where
they
can
go,
is
very
troubling
and
I
would
like
to
think
that
SD
Ireland
would
think
long
and
hard
about
a
process
that
would
maybe
update
or
remove
some
of
those
houses
that
are
vacant
and
do
the
new
construction
but
and
then
allow
the
people
that
are
there
are
ready
to
maybe
have
an
opportunity
to
I
guess,
buy
them
or
rent
them.
I'm.
H
Not
quite
sure,
I
didn't
hear
that
answer.
If
that
was
if
the
question
was
raised,
but
I
am
very
concerned
about
this
project
and
that
old
building
that
was
an
apartment
house
was
actually
the
original
structure
and
there
used
to
be
horses
that
were
raised
there.
So
it
was,
it
was
a
home,
it
wasn't
an
apartment
house,
it
was
a
home
that
was
made
into
an
apartment
house.
H
So
there's
a
lot
of
history
there,
some
of
which
some
long-term
residents
know,
but
I
I
really
would
like
to
think
that
we
are
going
to
be
more
Humane
and
provide
housing,
that's
needed
for
families
in
Burlington.
We
don't
do
much
of
that
and
I'm
hoping
that
SD
Ireland
in
this
development
will
step
up
and
do
the
right
thing.
G
G
The
problem
here
really
is
that
you
know
we
really
do
have
a
small
area
that
we're
trying
to
maximize
not
only
obviously
for
feasibility
based
on
the
cost
of
construction
right
now,
but
also
to
like
we
talked
about
address
the
housing
crisis
that
there
is
in
Burlington
trying
to
get
as
many
units
as
we
can
in
that
location.
I
mean
you'll
see
that
these
buildings
are
really
you
know.
They
are
two-story
units
and
they're
kind
of
the
same
footprint
as
the
modular
units
themselves,
but
all
with
you
know
attached
garages.
G
So
so
you
know
we're
really
trying
to
you
know
without
without
coming
in
and
putting
in
these
multi-family
buildings.
You
know
22
units
like
at
Bayberry
come
in
and
kind
of
meet
in
the
middle,
provide
these
smaller
units
kind
of
maximize
the
density.
That
way
we
can
maximize
the
housing
up
here
and.