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From YouTube: Ward 5 NPA December Meeting - 12/15/2022
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00:00:00 Call to Order/Agenda
00:05:09 Public Forum
00:11:37 Burlington Community Justice Center Parallel Justice and Public Safety
00:52:44 Howard Center Re-development
01:12:09 Rhino Foods potential expansion on Queen City Park Rd
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A
Reading
with
everyone
in
the
room
and
everyone
on
Zoom,
this
is
the
ward
five
neighborhood
planning
assembly
for
December
15th
I
want
to
note
that
our
next
meeting
is
January,
19th,
Thursday,
January,
19th
and
I'm
sure
that
we
are
a
little
light
on
attendance
tonight,
partly
because
of
the
democratic
caucus
being
at
exactly
at
the
same
time.
My
name
is
Andy.
Simon
I
am
on
award
five
MPA
steering
committee
and
we
are
currently
being
joined
by
several
other
members
of
the
steering
committee.
A
A
A
Welcome
to
the
ward
5
NTA:
this
is
our
lovely
logo
made
by
Amy
Radcliffe
acrossman
City
Graphics.
We
could
you
move
on
to
the
next
one,
so
we
have
some
guiding
principles.
Our
guiding
principles
are
creating
a
safe
space
and
a
welcoming
forum
for
people
being
accessible
in
every
way
that
that's
possible
minimizing
barriers
physically
and.
A
A
A
So
for
those
of
you
who
are
on
a
zoom
I'm,
assuming
that
at
this
point
years
on
in
the
pandemic,
that
everybody
is
pretty
familiar
with
food,
if
you
want
to
be
recognized,
you
could
raise
your
hand
and
use
the
raise
hand
feature
on
the
loom
when
you're,
not
speaking,
if
you
would
mute,
that
would
be
great
and
unmute
we'll
remind
you
to
unmute.
If
you
haven't,
you
can
turn
your
webcam
on
it
off.
A
All
right
we've
got
that
last
slide
right.
Do
we
have
another
one?
Oh
yes,
our
agenda.
This
is
our
agenda
tonight,
we'll
have
a
20-minute
segment
for
public
forum.
Public
forum
is
open
to
everyone
and
anyone.
If
you
have
a
comment,
question
suggestion
complain
or
otherwise.
Please
use
this
time
in
public
forum
at
7
20
we
have
the
Bridget
and
Lauren
from
from
the
community
Justice
Center
and
at
750
we
have
Howard
Center
Redevelopment.
We
have
three
preventers
for
Alexander
Redevelopment,
the
810.
A
A
When
you
are
speaking
in
public
forum,
please
identify
yourself
with
your
first
and
last
name.
Let
us
know
where
you
live,
if
you're
speaking
as
an
organization,
please
identify
that
organization
and
limit
yourself
to
four
or
five
minutes
in
your
comments.
Please
all
right
so
we're
here
for
public
forum,
the
the
The
Forum
is
open
for
any
comments
on
any
any
any
topic.
A
As
I
noted,
the
Democratic
caucus
is
happening
at
this
very
moment,
so
we
may
have
fewer
people
tonight
than
than
usual.
We're
planning
for
the
I
wanted
to
say
that
we're
planning
for
the
January
meeting,
either
at
the
regular
meeting
or
having
a
public
meet
or
a
special
meeting
about
public
safety
and
gun
violence.
A
So
we
will
be
continuing
the
theme
that
that
Bridget
and
Lauren
are
starting
tonight
to
talk
about
issues
of
Public
Safety,
so
stay
tuned
for
that
and
we'll
put
that
out
on
on
front
porch
Forum
so
that
people
know
what's
coming
up.
Anybody
else
want
to
speak
at
public
forum,
anything
to
announce
to
suggest
observations,
questions.
D
Annie
I'll
speak
quickly
to
the
topic.
You
were
just
raising:
hi
I'm,
Billy,
Clark,
I'm,
Ward,
5,
NPA,
steering
committee,
member
and
I
live
on
Locust
Terrace
and
yes,
and
he
just
flagged
we're
hoping
to
do
a
either
a
special
meeting
or
at
a
regular
meeting
in
January
or
hopefully
January
or
soon
thereafter,
a
discussion
of
Public
Safety.
D
We
definitely
recognize
that
that
has
been
an
issue
that
many
of
us
have
faced
in
Burlington
I
myself
was
one
of
the
people
who
had
property
damage
from
the
large
incident
on
the
south
end
when
there
was
Windows
broken
and
while
that
didn't
affect
my
personal
safety,
certainly
was
a
scary
moment
and
that's
on
top
of
many
of
the
other.
You
know
issues
that
we've
seen
arise,
I,
don't
you
know
not
trying
to
set
a
narrative
than
that
I
guess
what
I'm?
D
What
I'm
hoping
we
can
do
is
if
folks
have
particular
issues
that
they
want
to
talk
about.
If
there's
people
they
want
to
hear
from.
If
there's
voices
they
want
to
include
in
the
conversation
we
as
the
steering
committee,
would
love
to
hear
from
you
before
that,
and
certainly
would
love
it.
If
you
could
come
to
our
meeting
in
January
this
is
you
know
something
that
it
weighs
on
my
mind,
a
lot
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
D
This
is
a
it's
it's
a
conversation
that
can
be
done
poorly
very
easily
and
is
very
hard
to
do
right,
and
so
we
would
want
to
get
it
as
many
people
participating
as
we
can
and
want
to
make
sure
we
do
it
correctly.
So,
if
there's
voices
that
you
think
you
need
to
be
at
the
table,
please
reach
out
to
us
as
we
try
to
make
that
a
interesting
and
productive
conversations.
F
F
I
have
some
suggestions
that
may
be
germane
to
right
now
or
later
in
terms
of
my
experiences
in
Chicago
working
with
gang
kids
and
youth
and
the
absence
of
a
public
youth
Commission
in
Burlington.
But
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
time
to
make
a
comment
about
it
or
if
the
president
there'll
be
a
question
and
answer
during
the
presentation
of
the
people
coming
following
me.
C
G
There
are
a
few
folks
that
are
working
on
this
issue
of
Youth
and
gun
violence
in
Burlington
and
so
I'd
be
happy
to
connect
you
to
those
folks.
I
work
at
the
Burlington
Community,
Justice,
Center
and
I've
been
in
conversation
about
this
and
have
my
ears
on
you
know,
what's
happening
so
I
think
what
you
would
have
to
share
is
important
and
I'd
be
happy
to
connect
you
to
the
folks
that
you
can
share
those
ideas.
I
D
A
A
G
G
L
L
G
G
As
well
as
Crime
Victims,
as
well
as
people
doing
Direct
Services,
to
inform
the
bulk
of
this
presentation
and
as
victim
Services
Specialists,
we
talk
to
people
who've
been
impacted
by
crime,
harm
violence
almost
every
day
and
you're
Fielding
a
lot
of
feedback
and
a
lot
of
concerns
as
well
on
what
on
the
state
of
Public
Safety
in
in
Burlington.
Right
now.
And
so
we
thought
it
would
be
in
the
best
interest
of
our
community.
A
G
K
L
A
L
L
So
in
this
slide
here,
as
we
can
see,
folks
are
interested
in
community
approaches
to
community
violence,
which
typically
involves
a
relatively
small
number
of
people,
but
has
a
lasting
impact
on
the
entire
Community.
We
also
know
that
violence
is
learned,
which
means
that
circumstances
that
increase
a
person's
risk
of
becoming
a
victim
or
an
offender
can
be
undone.
L
Issues
in
Burlington
this
image
shows
is
sorry.
This
image
shows
reported
incidents
of
crime
as
of
mid-november,
so
this
is
from
the
police
chief's
report,
and
something
to
just
highlight
is
that
these
are
reported
crimes
and
not
unreported
crimes.
So
we
realize
that
this
doesn't
capture,
maybe
all
of
crime
or
all
of
issues
facing
Burlington,
but
it's
a
good
representation
of
the
general
climate
of
note.
There
has
been
considerable
increases
in
incidents
of
gunfire
larcities
mental
health
issues,
overdoses
and
stolen
vehicles.
L
G
Of
note
in
the
south
of
Burlington
Community
Justice
Center,
we
don't
see
mental
health
issues,
overdose
and
overdoses
as
crimes.
We
see
these
as
public
health
issues.
However,
currently
with
this
data,
we
are
viewing
it
as
a
crime
and
that's
how
we're
responding
to
it
and
that's
why
the
data
is
shown
in
its
way.
L
And
then
in
the
next
slide,
it's
just
a
different
representation
of
the
same
numbers,
but
in
percentages
in
that
red
box.
There
shows
where
again,
maybe
we
can
be
well
informed
to
Target
programming
into
these
issues
that
we're
facing
including
stolen
vehicles.
So,
as
you
can
see,
stolen
vehicles
have
the
highest
increase,
so
it's
435
percent
increase
stolen
vehicles,
it's
happening
pretty
regularly,
but
what
we're
seeing
is
that
the
recovery
rate
also
is
very
high,
but
the
condition
that
the
vehicle
is
returned
is
not
what
you
might
expect.
L
You
can
expect
needles,
bodily
fluids,
stolen
items
and
personal
items
and
the
person
who
stole
a
vehicle
that
are
left
behind,
indicating
that
a
car
is
being
used
as
shelter
or
consumption
room
for
drugs
and
then
left
abandoned
when
gas
runs
out.
The
data
of
stolen
cars
indicates
a
need
for
housing
and
support
for
substance
use
and
a
few
moments.
We
will
discuss
root,
causes
of
crime
and
how
to
use
data
and
program
implementation
to
address
the
needs
of
folks
in
an
effort
to
deter
them
from
using
crime
as
a
solution
to
social
issues.
L
L
We
recognize
that
some
of
you
in
the
room
have
may
be
very
familiar
with
crime
in
Burlington
and
know
all
too
well
how
this
flow
chart
operates.
We
at
the
Burlington,
Community
Justice
Center
realized
that
incidents
of
crime
and
harm
in
our
city
have
had
a
tremendous
impact
on
individuals,
families
and
Neighbors,
and
that
these
impacts
have
been
significant.
The
losses
have
been
emotional,
tangible,
physical,
monetary
and
traumatic,
and
we
are
sorry
that
some
of
you
have
been
victims
of
assault,
larceny,
burglary
and
stolen
vehicles,
to
name
a
few.
L
We
hope
that
you
have
felt
supported
by
the
community
in
the
aftermath,
but
if
you
have
not
felt
supported,
that's
partly
why
we
are
here.
As
Lauren
mentioned,
we
have
had
a
lot
of
discussions
with
folks
over
the
last
several
months
and
we
send
for
the
community
is
just
feeling
disconnected
and
mistrustful
of
neighbors
and
systems
in
place
to
help
them
and
we're
here
to
let
you
know
that
there
are
resources
available
which
we
will
get
into
towards
the
end.
Do.
A
A
A
M
L
L
The
officer
then,
has
the
option
of
submitting
the
case
for
review
to
the
State's
Attorney's
office
or
giving
a
direct
referral
to
the
Burlington
Community
Justice
Center,
in
which
case
the
community
Justice
Center
supports
the
victim
through
parallel
Justice
and
evicting
liaison,
and
then
the
person
responsible
goes
to
a
restorative
justice,
an
alternative
Justice
process,
and
they
are
also
supported
through
a
case
of
coordinator.
In
that
case,
upon
successful
completion,
the
charges
are
dismissed,
they're,
never
gone
to
the
port.
The
State's
Attorney's
Office
can
decide
to
prosecute
decline
or
send
to
Diversion.
L
G
G
There
are
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that,
some
of
which
include
not
feeling
safe
going
to
the
police,
some
of
which
include
not
knowing
how
that
process
works,
and
so
we're
available
to
any
and
all
communities
to
answer
their
questions,
whether
that's
giving
them
information
about
how
the
system
works
or
that's
to
help
them
find
Justice
and
healing
outside
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
and
so
there's
a
line
there
really
to
express
that
at
any
point.
In
the
way
of
experiencing
and
looking
for
justice
and
healing,
we
are
available
to
support
those
folks.
L
And
similarly,
the
state
attorney's
office,
so
if
the
case
is
not
sent
to
Diversion
or
to
Community
Justice
Center,
the
victim
Advocate
is
available
at
the
State's
Attorney's
Office,
who
we
would
communicate
with
like
in
case.
There
was
any
conversation
that
took
place
before
it
goes
to
the
Saint
Patrick's
office.
C
A
E
A
L
L
L
What
can,
but
if
the
investigation,
so
if
it
turns
up
no
leads
and
no
solvability
factors,
the
case
may
lead
to
no
arrests
and
solvability
factors
include
things
like
date
and
time
Witnesses
and
supporting
evidence
which
are
not
clear
in
all
cases,
such
as
a
larceny
from
a
motor
vehicle
or
vandalism.
So
here
in
Burlington,
a
lot
of
folks
Park
their
cars
on
streets,
I
live
in
a
neighborhood
where
you
can
see
the
car
parked.
You
know
like
for
days
at
a
time
it
doesn't
move.
L
So
in
cases
like
that,
if
there's
a
vandalism,
it
makes
it
unlikely
that
it
could
lead
to
a
suspect
because
there's
a
hard
you're
not
able
to
find
like
a
correct
date
or
time
for
the
person,
but
even
if
that
leads
to
no
investigation
or
no
suspects.
We
want
to
let
you
know.
The
victim
services
are
still
available
through
parallel
Justice
and
we
offer
information,
resources,
emotional
support,
safety
planning
and
limited
financial
assistance.
I
G
G
When
there's
no
suspect,
when
the
police
are
not
able
to
identify
a
suspect
through
the
investigation,
there's
no
charges,
and
so
for
that
person
it
feels
like
there's
no
justice
and
there's
still
a
need
there,
and
it
can't
necessarily
be
met
through
the
criminal
justice
system.
It
can
look
to
being
met
through
victim
Services,
and
you
know
that
includes.
G
Fortunately
it
shouldn't
encounters.
We
do
have
a
growing
emphasis
on
services
for
people
with
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
disabilities,
who
come
into
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system.
This
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
of
treating
substance,
abuse,
mental
illness
and
poverty
as
public
health
issues
and
I
am
excited
to
live
in
a
community
that
has
increasingly
shown
its
support
for
its
community
members
who
experience
such
significant
barriers
in
Health
Equity.
G
So
there's
a
graph
in
the
middle
here,
and
that
was
done
by
the
prison
policy
initiative
and
they
use
nationally
represented
representative
data
from
the
national
survey
on
drugs
and
health
to
find
that
these
4.9
million
people
that
were
arrested
and
jailed
in
2017,
at
least
one
in
four
of
those
books
were
booked
into
jail
more
than
once
during
the
same
year.
The
graph
there
will
tell
you
that
over
half
of
the
people
that
were
booked
into
jail
more
than
twice
half
of
those
folks
had
a
substance
use
disorder.
G
G
G
I
can't
help
but
consider
how
at
present,
we
are
relying
on
a
system
of
punishment
to
address
the
issue
of
health
and
life
chances,
research,
information,
relationship,
building
and
understanding,
however,
can
direct
public
and
Community
investments
in
care.
This
would
include
employment
assistance,
education
and
vocational
training,
financial
assistance,
mental
health
and
substance
use
treatment
options
and
checking
in
on
your
neighbors.
G
I
was
surprised
to
find
that
there
is
a
significant
lack
of
research
on
the
relationship
between
adverse
childhood
experiences,
so
those
are
shown
right
next
to
the
tree,
also
known
as
Aces
an
adult
Criminal
Justice
System
contact,
considering
that
exposure
to
trauma,
particularly
in
childhood,
have
been
associated
with
a
greater
risk
of
substance,
use,
disability
and
mental
illness
and
that
a
significant
amount
of
adults
who
go
to
jail
each
year
experience
these
adversities.
Then
the
lack
of
research
on
this
relationship
is
a
critical
limitation
and
a
key
area
for
crime
and
harm
prevention.
G
G
The
2022
research
study
is
in
the
academic
Pediatric
Association.
That
I
was
able
to
review
confirmed
that
the
research
on
Aces
and
Criminal
Justice
System
contact
in
adulthood
was
indeed
lacking,
and
the
study
introduced
itself
as
the
first
of
its
kind
and
I
was
truly
surprised
to
see
this,
because
these
are
both
assessments
that
I've
used
in
the
last
10
years.
G
In
my
work,
doing
a
lot
of
Direct
Services,
particularly
with
children,
who've
experienced
significant
trauma
who
then
go
on
to
have
Criminal
Justice
System
contact
I
was
surprised
that
the
academic
Pediatric
Association
confirmed
that
there
was
a
significant
lack
of
research
on
the
correlation
between
adverse
childhood
experiences
and
then
adult
Criminal
Justice
System
contact.
There
is
research
that
will
confirm
adverse
childhood
experiences
and
Juvenile
Justice
System
contact,
but
not
for
adults
that
are
incarcerated
so
considering
that
criminal
justice
system
is
disproportionately
composed
of
adults
who
have
experienced
childhood
adversity.
G
G
What
a
world
with
less
harm
will
look
like
I
know
that
I
won't
get
into
that
imagining,
without
also
recognizing
that
things
like
Public,
Safety
and
justice,
mean
different
things
to
different
people
and
communities
and
that
all
communities
have
both
survivors
and
people
that
have
caused
harm
within
them.
I'm
not
here,
to
tell
any
one
person
when
saying
to
your
Justice
should
mean
or
look
like
to
them.
I
do
also
know
that
oftentimes
people
who
experience
victimization
have
been
victimized
before
and
that
many
people
who
cause
harm
to
others
have
themselves
been
victimized
by
harm.
C
G
So
as
we
shared
earlier,
Bridges
and
I
are
victim.
Services
specialists
at
the
Burlington
Community
Justice
Center
I
am
also
a
restorative
justice
practitioner
and
I
work
with
all
of
our
youth
cases
where
there
are
an
identified
victim
oftentimes.
Those
victims
are
youth.
Youthful
offenders
also
teenagers,
but
sometimes
they
are
also
adults
and.
G
L
And
it's
also
important
to
note
that
for
victims,
Justice
can
mean
many
different
things
and
that's
what
parallel
Justice
is
offering
support
to
achieve
Justice
in
the
form
of
that
emotional
support
safety
planning
systems,
advocacy
resource
coordination
and
a
limited
financial
assistance.
We
had
mentioned
earlier,
and
we've
recognize
that
you
know
a
victim
may
not
see
inside
the
courtroom
and
never
have
the
opportunity
to
influence
like
sentencing
judgment
or
charged
crime,
and
that
is
traditional
Justice
for
parallel.
L
G
So
she
does
one-on-one
conflict
coaching.
She
she
also
does
mediation
where
she'll
bring
both
parties
together,
and
you
can
also
look
to
presentations
that
she
does
in
the
community.
Well,
actually
we're
looking
to
fill
that
position.
So
anybody
knows
anyone
who
wants
to
do
that,
but
she's
built
up
a
really
incredible
program
and
a
lot
of
the
work
that
she
did
also
involves:
teaching
community
members,
their
own
toolkit
of
skills
to
navigate
confidence
themselves
and
so
you'll
see
on
the
screen.
G
This
is
the
symbol
of
the
Caboose
model
based
out
of
Oregon
or
crisis
assistance
helping
out
on
the
streets.
That's
a
mobile
Crisis,
Intervention
Program
that
provides
free,
confidential
services
in
Eugene
and
the
Springfield
metro
area
in
Oregon.
Free
response
is
available
for
a
broad
range
of
non-criminal
cases,
which
includes
homelessness,
intoxication
disorientation,
Substance,
Abuse
and
Mental
Illness
and
dispute
resolution.
G
When
people
are
experiencing
a
mental
health
substance
use
or
housing
issue,
what
they
need
is
understanding,
clear
directions
and
specific
Support
Services
people
experiencing
crisis
are
often
further
escalated
and
more
harm
can
be
done
when
they
see
the
presence
of
an
armed
officer
on
their
own.
For
me,
being
in
community
with
folks
who
experience
mental
health
and
substance
use,
disabilities
means
checking
my
impulses
on
how
I
can
help
them.
G
L
When
the
next,
so
we
have
the
crisis,
advocacy
and
Intervention
Program
so
Kate
for
short,
that's
housed
within
the
Burlington
Police
Department,
it's
a
coordinated
effort
among
multiple
City
departments.
So
it
includes
CSL
and
Lauren
had
mentioned
myself
being
the
victim
Services
specialist
base
at
BPD,
as
well
as
in
domestic
violence,
victim
Advocate,
a
domestic
violence,
prevention
officer,
and
so
it's
just
like
I,
said
a
coordinated
approach,
so
maybe
I'm
dealing
with
somebody
who's
going
to
make
them
a
crime,
but
is
also
based
in
chronic
helplessness
and
needs.
L
L
We
have
the
peer
Workforce.
We've
just
received
a
grant
to
help
those
who
are
you
know
facing
unemployment
and
need
help
getting
into
the
workforce.
Turning
point,
which
is
a
view,
recovery
support
group,
New,
York
City,
has
a
neighborhood,
Safety
Committee,
so
similar
to
concept
that
we
have
here
that
faces.
You
know
like
uses
data
and
other
stakeholders
to
do
substance,
use
treatment
and
prevention.
They
have
the
neighborhood
safety,
so
those
are
just
some
different,
like
models,
I
guess
similar
to
what
we
could
use
here
as
community-based.
G
Approaches
and
a
big
reason
why
we
want
to
why
we
have
this
slide
here,
is
because
oftentimes
when
there
is
a
crisis
and
when
it
feels
like
things,
are
changing
it's
hard
to
remember
that
there
are
people
in
the
community
who
do
care
about
you
and
people
that
do
have
a
pulse
on
the
situation
and
are
there
to
help,
and
so
we
wanted
to
include
you
know
some
local
organizations
and
local
efforts
to.
Let
folks
know
that
there
are
people
who
are
there.
G
C
G
L
I'm
excited
just
a
thank
you
to
some
partners
that
we've
reached
out
to
and
connected
with,
and
gave
a
lot
of
great
feedback,
question
and
answers.
This
is
our
contact
information,
there's
some
Community
safety
tips
that
show
maybe
some
things
that
you're
doing
already,
or
maybe
some
things
that
you
haven't
thought
of
that
help
you
with
house
safety,
car
safety,
bike
safety,
there's
some
apps
that
are
included
in
there.
So
that
way,
if
you're
walking
and
just
feeling
unsafe,
there's
some
apps
that
will
connect
you
directly
to
like
one.
A
C
A
I'm
left
with
lots
of
words
and
not
not
saying
that
you
had
too
many
words,
but
there
are
lots
of
words
that
are
very
complex,
like
safety,
like
like
justice
like
harm
and
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
where
your
program,
Le
and
and
the
adverse
childhood
experiences.
So,
where
your
program
latches
on
to
these
things
and
I
I,
hear
that
you
are
coming
from
a
victim
support
angle.
A
G
Feelings
that
are
coming
up
when
I'm
listening
to
this
other
person
speak
and
then
having
a
conversation
with
those
feelings
and
those
parts
that
come
up
and
then
being
like.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
get
I'm
gonna
come
back
to
this
person,
who's
upset
and
I'm
gonna.
You
know
I'm
gonna
figure
out
what
they're
upset
about
and
how
I
can
support
them,
which
takes
a
lot
of
listening,
I,
think
oftentimes
when
we're
not
listening
or
when
we're
not
doing
enough
listening.
There's
a
tendency
to
I
want
fix
the
situation.
G
I
want
to
I
want
to
do
something
and
I
want
to
do
it
now
and
when
things
are
really
complex,
we
just
can't
do
that
right
and
I
think.
Actually,
we
can
cause
more
harm
when
we
think
that
we
can
I
think
it
comes
from
a
really
good
place.
You
know
that
kind
of
wanting
to
help
right
away
wanting
to
do
something
wanting
to
wanting
to
help
someone
who's
hurt
and
I
come
against
this.
G
You
a
discount
on
you,
know,
fixing
your
tires
or
something
or
there's
a
support
group
and
they
meet
at
you
know
they
meet
downtown
two
times
a
week
and
I
think
you
would
really
like
that
because
that's
a
group,
you
know
for
single
mothers
who
are
overcoming
substance
use
so
just
knowing
what's
in
the
community
and
kind
of
you
know,
I
think
that's
one
way
for
community
members
who
want
to
be
in
community
with
other
people.
It's
like
okay,
what's
happening
in
Burlington,
because
there
actually
is
a
lot.
L
L
Explanation
that,
like
basically
somebody's
worst
day
so
like
my
worst
day,
could
be
somebody's
face
line
like
that
would
be
like
there
every
day,
my
worst
day
and
so
just
like
kind
of
keeping
that
perspective
and
knowing
that
like
different,
like
we're
all
coming
from
different
places
and
like
not
passing
like
judgment
and
people
who
are
struggling,
maybe
show
their
struggles
out
on
the
streets
every
day,
but
we
also
know
that
I've
got
Neighbor,
Next
Door,
maybe
having
a
similar
struggle.
We
just
don't
see
it.
A
H
H
O
Of
what
you're,
just
talking
about
the
complexity
of
the
problem,
I
mean
Public.
Safety
is
affected
by
so
many
different
things
and
we
did
a
we
put
out
a
survey
and
we
we
had
well
over
50
people
respond
to
it
and
and
their
responses
in
terms
of
priorities
related
to
I
mean
Public.
Safety
was
high,
but
so
was
mental
health
treatment
and
and
substance
abuse,
treatment
and
options
for
short-term
housing.
L
Street
is
very
dark.
It
makes
it
very
easy
for
somebody
to
see
you
coming,
but
you
not
see
that,
and
it
makes
it
easy
for
a
car
to
be
broken
into
so
like
Lighting
in
the
city.
I
think
is,
is
something
we
have
abandoned
buildings
vacant
buildings
that
people
are
able
to
Graffiti
and,
though
he's
like
managing
that
so
like
sidewalks,
are,
you
know
like
this
like
things
that
can
be
improved.
M
G
Invocation
hospitalization
options
for
people
with
substance
use,
disability
and
mental
health
yeah
going
back
to
situational
crime
prevention
strategies.
Another
example
could
be
okay
if
there's
a
lot
of
vandalism
that
happens
and
there's
a
lot
of
graffiti
in
places
that
it's
not
supposed
to
be.
What
about
a
place
where
it
could.
K
K
K
G
There's
a
lot
of,
and
it
makes
sense
to
me-
I
mean
you
know
we
want
to
understand.
If
you
better,
something
that
can
get
lost
is
how
much
we
can
learn
from
people
with
that
lived
experience
right
who
who
lived
it
themselves
and
we've
reflected
on
it
and
processed
it,
and
we've
tried
to
heal
those
are
people
who
have
really
good
ideas
too.
A
Thank
you,
I
I
would
like
I
would
love
to
continue
this
discussion.
We're
now
past
time
and
I
I
want
to
remind
people
that
we're
going
to
continue
David
I,
see
your
hand
is
up
and
I
hope
that
we'll
be
able
to
continue
this
discussion.
Another
time
the
Public
Safety
is
going
to
be
another
theme
for
our
January
meeting
and
perhaps
meetings
and
I'm
wondering
whether
we
could
invite
you
back
to
be
part
of
that.
A
G
A
J
C
K
C
P
If
you
could
bring
up
the
presentation,
please
so
I
believe
everyone
should
be
who's
in
the
neighborhood
should
be
familiar
with
this
site,
we're
at
the
corner
of
Pine
and
Flynn.
It's
the
sort
of
z-shaped
building
there
with
some
ponding
on
the
membrane
roof
behind
us
is
the
Redstone
apartment.
Building
to
the
South
left
on
your
screen
is
St
Anthony's
to
the
top
of
your
screen
is
the
Flynn
Avenue
Co-op
and
then
anglesby
Brook,
which
is
the
forested
piece,
is
on
your
right
and.
P
P
Howard
Center
did
approach
them,
but
they're
not
interested
in
selling,
and
so
we
believe
in
property
rights,
this
country,
so
we're
going
to
con
we're
going
to
work
on
the
parcel
that
we
do,
control,
which
is
bounded
by
Glenn
and
Pine,
and
the
brook
and
Flynn
Avenue
Co-op.
So
this
is
the
existing
condition.
We
started
working
with
Howard
Center
last
year
on
looking
at
this
site
and
trying
to
understand
the
zoning
what
the
potential
was.
P
M
E
P
P
For
the
switch
in
view,
we're
now
looking
from
the
south
towards
the
proposed
Redevelopment
Flynn
Avenue
Co-op
is
our
new
left.
The
Redstone
apartment
building
is
on
the
upper
right
corner,
and
so
what
we
are
proposing
is
a
new
52
000
square
feet
essentially
office
building
with
some
additional
uses.
P
We
do
have
some
covered
parking
as
well:
a
total
of
98
parking
spaces,
and
so
the
entrance.
This
is
It's
a
classic
conundrum
where
we
want
to
have
a
welcoming
front
door
that
faces
the
street,
but
we
also
have
many
clients
and
staff
who
are
coming
by
car
and
so
I
don't
have
a
pointer,
but
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
building
is
our
main
entrance,
which
faces
the
Flynn
Avenue,
as
well
as
towards
the
parking
lot.
P
P
F
P
P
M
S
Sandy
please
thanks
Sam
Sandy,
McGuire
Howard
Center
stat.
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
tonight
for
folks
who
might
not
be
familiar
with
Howard
Center.
We
provide
support
to
over
19
000
of
our
community
members
annually
across
60
locations,
primarily
addressing
developmental
mental
health
and
substance
use
disorders.
The
current
building
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
one
of
three
primary
hubs
all
located
in
Burlington
for
our
services
on
this
particular
site.
We've
been
here
for
47
years.
S
The
use
is
a
hub
or
a
home
base
for
staff
who
provide
outpatient
services
both
on
site
and
out
in
the
community.
But
this
is
their
touchdown
spot
and
home
base.
It
is
a
fabulous
location
that
has
served
us
well,
it's
closed
for
our
clients
that
we
serve
and,
as
Sam
mentioned,
it
can
be
accessed
by
walking
cycling
by
car
or
by
bus,
and
it's
an
ample
size
property
that
we
believe
will
meet
our
needs.
S
There
are
a
long
list
of
Cons
with
the
physical
limitations
of
the
building,
given
the
building's
age
and
many
of
the
accessibility
issue
items
that
it
does
not
afford
US.
So
as
we
look
forward,
we're
looking
for
a
building
designed,
utilizing
modern
day
design,
approaches
that
create
and
support
a
welcoming,
inclusive,
supportive
and.
S
Spaces
for
our
clients
and
our
staff
to
continue
providing
the
services
that
are
currently
provided
on
site
that
include
Service,
Coordination,
Psychiatry,
individual
and
group
therapy,
and
to
co-locate
some
of
those
same
services
that
are
currently
off-site
to
make
them
more
accessible
for
clients.
So
clients
aren't
having
to
go
to
multiple
locations
to
receive
their
services.
It
would
also
house
our
24
7
call
center
and
our
access
and
intake
team
that
includes
our
cultural
liaison
team
and
have
space
for
a
new
on-site,
Primary
Care
Services,
to
be
co-located
for
our
clients
as
well.
S
So,
in
addition
to
the
convenience
for
clients,
we
expect
the
co-location
of
staff
and
physical
proximity
to
one.
Another
also
supports
their
working
together
as
a
multi-disciplinary
care
team
for
the
benefit
of
our
clients
and
our
greater
community.
So
as
we
continue
our
exploration
and
planning
we're
thrilled
to
be
here
tonight
and
to
hear
folks,
questions
and
feedback
as
we
continue
to
ponder
and
develop.
M
P
P
Q
P
With
the
teal
columns,
we
have
a
white
lap,
siding
and
large
lap
siding
with
dichroic
glass
fins.
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know
what
dichroic
glass
is
it's,
it's
very
fun
rainbow
glass
that
refracts
that's
the
light
and
creates
both
a
reflection,
as
well
as
a
shadow
in
different
different
tones,
and
so
the
composition
is
meant
to
evoke
music
in
some
ways,
with
a
treble
clef
above
bass,
clef
below
with
different
rhythms
punctuating.
P
This
facade
in
different
ways
to
create
an
animated
facade
that
will
change
throughout
the
day
as
the
sun
moves
across
those
solar
shades
are
actually
functional,
though
we
are
trying
to
limit
our
solar
intake
into
the
glass
and
reduce
our
cooling
load.
The
Energy
Efficiency
of
this
building
we're
hoping
to
be
very
high
performance
building,
we're
working
with
Ln
Consulting
down
the
street
and
hoping
to
do
a
geothermal
ground,
Source
heat
pump
system.
P
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
there's
a
detail
of
this
entrance
canopy
for
folks
to
see
there's
a
little
bit
more
detail
here.
We
took
that
one
of
the
columns
and
turned
it
down
on
its
side
to
bring
people
in
pull
people
into
the
site
and
create
a
nice
place
to
sit
a
little
bit
more
detail
there
at
the
facade.
You
can
go
to
the
next
one,
and
this
is
a
view
looking
more
straight
on
from
Flint
Avenue.
Looking
at
that
facade.
P
I
didn't
mention
it
before,
but
we
do
have
some
Frontage
on
Pine
Street
there
we're
hoping
to
locate
Howard,
Center's,
Community,
Arts
Hub,
and
so
that
would
be
slightly
separated
from
the
main
front
door
of
the
building
and
service
and
access.
Maybe
even
perhaps
these
meetings
could
be
there
in
the
future,
which
would
be
wonderful
to
have
another
community
space
within
the
neighborhood,
but
that
will
create
a
nice
building
facade
along
Pine
Street
separating
the
underground
parking
from
the.
P
P
E
J
G
Just
want
to
say
that
building
was
great
and
you
don't
often
see
buildings
where
you
know
people
are
trying
to
Social
Services
building.
If
you
don't
often
see
them
looking
so
nice
and
it's
so
important
for
the
people
looking
to
get
help
and
for
the
people
who
are
doing
Network
to
exist
and
work
and
get
help
in
a
place
that
they
feel
respected
by.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
P
E
P
B
P
C
E
C
S
C
S
I
think
you
know
genuinely
we're
looking
for
for
feedback
and
for
input
and
we'll
be
doing
the
same
with
all
of
our
staff
and
with
our
clients
as
well,
but
really
looking
to
the
community
on
both
as
neighbors
as
community
members
and
also
within
the
building,
how
how
we
can
do
the
best
that
we
can
and
what
haven't
we
thought
about.
They
can
benefit
all
of
us
and
again
I
want
to
appreciate
your
comment
earlier.
S
I
think
a
primary
driver
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
when
I
think
about
parity
for
mental
health
services,
substance
use
disorder
services
and
how
I
individually
feel
when
I
go
for
physical
health
services,
where
I
might
feel
respected
in
a
nice
facility.
Our
clients
are
sad
deserve
the
same
idea.
Absolutely
that's.
E
Right,
yeah
and
I'll
just
add
that
our
our
schedule
right
now
has
us
going
to
the
development
review
board
and
the
conservation
board
and
the
design
advisory
committee
in
April.
May
of
you
know
this
coming
April
May.
So
if
you're
willing
to
show
up
at
one
of
those
meetings
and
offer
your
support,
we
would
we
would
greatly
appreciate
it.
Joe.
E
A
T
A
R
H
S
Some
programming
around
again
when
we
think
about
clients
going
to
multiple
buildings
and
wanting
to
have
them
be
able
to
access
their
services
in
one
site.
So
there
will
be
some
staff
in
other
locations
moving
into
this
building
and
it
also
affords
us
the
opportunity
for
some
growth
and
expansion
as
we
burst
at
the
scenes
a
bit.
So
as
we
look
towards
the
future.
A
D
Did
you
have
a
question
just
very
quickly,
I
I
know
you
said
you'd
talk
to
the
one
property
owner
who
abuts
you
have.
You
talked
at
all
with
Saint
Anthony's
across
the
street
in
part
just
because
I'm
curious
that
I
know
they
had
tried
to
do
a
large
development.
Not
you
know
just
a
couple
years
back
and
I
do
view
this
as
sort
of
not
I
mean
for
the
good
in
many
ways,
changing
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
so
just
be
curious.
What
their
perspective
is,
if
any.
S
We
haven't
had
Direct
Communications
with
them
conversations
recently.
We
did
several
years
ago
when
they
were
looking
at
some
Redevelopment
as
well.
We
did
notify
all
the
neighbors
with
a
notification,
including
Saint
Anthony's
and
inviting
feedback
with
them.
We
have
also
looked
for
as
we've
looked
at
this
work.
The
past
couple
of
years,
we've
taken
a
look
around
the
community
about
where,
where
should
we
really
be
located?
Could
we
move
further
out
of
town?
Would
that
be
beneficial?
S
We
looked
at
where
our
clients
are
located
where
they
were
coming
from,
and
we
looked
at
Community
Partners
that
we
needed
to
be
proximate
to
and
really
landed
on
the
south
end
of
Burlington.
We
looked
at
other
properties
that
might
be
available
and
explored.
Some
other
properties
we
had
a
couple
times
have
had
some
folks
that
helped
us
out
with
real
estate,
take
a
look
at
current
buildings
that
maybe
we
could
purchase
and
use
for
our
needs
and
really
haven't
found
anything
in
the
area.
S
A
C
A
B
C
A
U
Q
A
Want
to
remind
people
that
our
next
meeting,
our
next
scheduled
meeting
is
January
19
2023
and
that's
Thursday,
the
third
Thursday
of
every
month
we'll
continue
to
have
hybrid
meetings
so
that
you
can
zoom
in
or
you
can
come
here
to
the
conference
room
at
the
Department
of
Public
Works
645
Pine
Street.
So
both
options
will
continue
to
be
available
thanks
to
Charlie
giannoni
for
working
the
camera
and
the
microphone
so
well,
and
to
Sam
who's
currently
working
out
the
technical
difficulties
here
at
at
DPW.
D
If
we're
continuing
to
look
to
eat
up
some
time,
Andy
cut
me
off
when
we're
no
longer
looking
to
do
that.
One
other
thing
that
I
would
promote
is
that
we
are
looking
to
get
more
people
on
the
Ward
5
MPA
steering
committee.
If
getting
involved
with
the
Ward
5
MBA,
which
is
something
that
you're
interested
in,
we
would
love
to
get
more
voices
on
here.
D
A
V
Introduce
myself
in
I'm,
Ted
Castle,
the
owner
of
rhino
Foods
I,
don't
know
where
people
if
people
know
where
we
are
but
we'll
show
some
some
drawings
and
we
have
nick
from
food.
Tech
who's
been
working
with
us,
Matt
Greer,
who
works
at
Rhino
and
playing
Paxton
who's
running
this
project.
So
we're
excited
to
show
you
what
we're
up
to
it's
very
early
in
the
process
and
so
we're
we're
here
to
bring
in
some
Concepts
forward
for
you
folks
to
hear
what
you
think.
U
Okay,
perfect
so
again,
my
name
is
Blaine
Paxton,
so
I
lead
supply
chain
planning
efforts
at
Rhino
foods
and
thanks
again
for
giving
us
some
of
your
time
for
us
to
share
some
details
on
this
project.
We'll
just
do
a
few
intro
slides
to
give
the
projects
in
context
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
our
lead
art
to
walk
through
some
of
the
details.
U
U
Rhino
Foods
has
been
growing
pretty
quickly.
We
will
share
just
a
little
bit
of
information
about
that,
we're
seeing
it
taken
trajectory
for
growth
and
job
creation,
and
so
we're
seeing
in
the
you
know
later
than
2026
to
at
some
sort
of
an
expansion
of
our
manufacturing,
the
distribution
capacity
I'm
just
going
to
jump
right
into
the
agenda
items.
V
V
We've
made
lots
of
different
products,
but
primarily
our
products
right
now,
our
cookie
dough,
very
good
for
you.
If
you
eat
cookie,
dough
ice
cream,
you're
in
great
shape,
and
so
that's
really
what
we
do.
We've
grown
in
the
last
2017
we've
had
some
pretty
fortunate
growth
and
gone
from
about
a
30
million
dollar
company
to
about
a
60
million
dollar
company.
V
Hopefully
you
folks
know
that
we
employ
over
200
people
in
the
Burlington
Community.
We
have
a
very
diverse
Workforce.
We
have
what
we
call
inclusive
hiring,
so
we
hire
people
out
of
incarceration
and
and
substance
abuse.
So
we
we
have
what
we
call
a
really
open
hiring
system
and
we
try
to
put
the
effort
into
to
helping
people
be
successful,
not
have
a
system
where
we're
trying
to
exclude
people.
V
You
know,
and
we've
had
probably
close
to
30
to
40
percent
of
our
Workforce
has
been
refugees
for
the
last
probably
20
years.
So
you
know
we
like
being
in
Burlington,
we've
been
fortunate
to
grow
and
we've
been
fortunate
to
stay
privately
held
and,
and
hopefully
people
know
that
we're
a
good
Community
member.
So
we
look
forward
to
seeing
if
we
can
keep
growing
in
Burlington.
U
All
right,
real,
quick,
real
quickly,
let's
put
the
project
in
context
in
terms
of
a
timeline,
so
starting
on
the
left
over
here.
Of
course,
we're
here
in
the
end
of
2022..
We've
just
completed
conceptual
engineering
study
which
we're
about
to
share
some
highlights
of
then
we're
just
starting
to
engage
with
the
city
right
now.
U
U
N
N
So
I'll
take
you
through
what
we've
been
working
on
recently
here.
This
first
slide
is
showing
the
existing
property
edited.
Today
you
can
see
the
existing
facility,
as
well
as
the
adjacent
parcel,
which
is
also
owned
by
by
Rhino,
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
basically
maximize
the
usage
of
this
available
space
and
create
a
building
that
would
essentially
be
the
the
central
location
with
all
parts
of
the
operation,
all
under
Under
One
Roof.
N
The
existing
facility
is
primarily
a
production
facility
as
it
is,
and
the
distribution
portions
handled
in
a
separate
facility
and
the
expansion
that
we're
looking
at
putting
on
this
building
would
bring
that
distribution
portion
onto
this
building
here
explain
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
foreign,
so
the
area
highlighted
in
yellow
is
the
footprint
of
the
proposed
building
expansion
and,
as
I
said,
it
could
be
primarily
for
a
distribution
center.
So
it's
going
to
have
a
lot
of.
N
Storage
areas,
ambient
storage
for
various
materials
for
the
production,
as
well
as
a
shipping
and
receiving
dock,
the
building
itself
will
be
a
similar
material
to
the
existing
building,
so
insulated
metal
panel,
obviously,
for
the
refrigerated
spaces
inside
it's
important
to
maintain
the
the
refrigerated
environments
within
the
structure
in
an
effort
to
maximize
the
the
available
storage
within
the
building.
This
new
addition
would
be
a
little
over
40
feet
in
height
and
that's
the
maximize
the
pallet,
the
levels
of
pallet
storage
within
the
building.
N
N
North
is
kind
of
to
the
to
the
right
on.
This
would
be
the
east
side
of
the
building.
It
would
be
a
freezer
storage
space.
Well,
the
finished
product
is
going
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
buildings,
where
the
ambient
storage
would
be
just
to
the
right
of
that
is
where
the
label
is
future
manufacturing
spaces,
so
those
would
be
directly
adjacent
to
where
the
existing
production
spaces
are
and
we're
essentially
just
kind
of
expanding
that
space
directly
to
the
to
the
cell.
It's.
I
N
N
It
brings
pretty
much
everything
Rhino
needs
into
one
Central
facility
to
cover
their
their
full
operation,
so
that
was
the
the
quick
overview
of
the
project
that
we're
looking
at,
and
you
know
similar
to
the
last
presentation.
Looking
to
you
know
present
this
to
the
community,
get
some
feedback
and
kind
of
make
everyone
aware
of.
N
J
U
D
U
V
V
M
I
I
do
thank
you
good
evening.
This
is
Lori
Smith,
and
my
first
question
is
at
your
loading
docks
where
you
currently
have
loading
docks.
A
number
of
your
trucks
have
Refrigeration
units
on
the
on
the
trailers
I'm,
assuming
that
these
new
trailers
will
have
a
ref
or
the
new
loading
dock
will
have
trailers
with
refrigeration
units
on
them
as
well.
Is
that
correct.
U
A
concern
of
the
city
might
be,
actually,
you
know,
having
visibility
to
the
docs
from
the
wind,
City
Park
Road,
that
wasn't
the
driving
concern,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
also
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
behind
the
existing
building,
that
there
is
sound
proofing
and
we're
we're
absolutely
open
to
continue
to.
You
know
talk
about
that
and
extend
that
up
this
way,
there's.
U
I
Well,
I'll,
just
I'll
just
follow-up
saying
that
I
I
understand
the
visual
concerns
and
I
do
know
that
the
neighbors
have
had
continuing
concerns
with
noise
issues
and
if
those
noise
issues
can
be
directed
towards
Queen
City,
Park
Road,
instead
of
the
residences
I
think
you'll
have
an
easier
time
getting
the
project
through
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
Thank
you.
A
I
guess
I
have
a
question
that
Lori
has
been
in
the
past
very
involved
with
the
work
around
the
potential
Higher
Ground
expansion
I'm
wondering
what
increased
traffic
on
that
small
Road
will
I
mean
this
was
mentioned
before,
but
on
that
small
road
coming
out,
what
what
impact
that
will
have
and
what
improvements
would
be
needed
in
order
to
handle
all
that
traffic.
So.
V
Right
now,
we've
engaged
a
you
know,
preliminary
traffic
study,
so
we
don't
have
the
answers,
but
we
will
shortly
and
probably
the
next
two
weeks,
the
difference,
but
right
now
that
what
we
do
is
we're,
there's
trucks
going
back
and
forth,
bringing
raw
materials
to
the
plant
and
then
finish
Goods
out.
So
this
will
this
will
increase
truck
traffic
and
we'll
have
the
numbers
within
a
few
weeks.
V
Okay,
one
thing
that's
important
to
know
that
we,
you
know,
we
talk
about
the
225
employees,
we're
a
three
shift
operation,
so
they're
not
all
on
site
at
the
same
time,
and
we
also
have
a
fair
number
of
people
that
take
the
bus.
So
that's
one
of
the
advantages
of
us
staying
in
Burlington
is
the
bus
routes.
V
Oh
yeah,
we
have
lots
of
trouble
finding
workers.
Yes,
if
you
know,
if
you
we're
we're
giving
people
fifteen
hundred
dollars
if
they
bring
a
friend
if
they
stay
for
six
months,
the
person
gets
two
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
that's
a
type
of
recruiting.
This
goes
on
right
now
in
Burlington,
and
all
over
Vermont
is
trying
to
find
workers.
U
C
U
B
I'm,
just
asking
in
general
I
mean
it's
got
across
Chevrolet
Parkway,
so
basically
Queen
City
Boulevard
to
pine
tree
is
going
to
be
closed.
Airplane
Parkway
would
be
a
direct
exit
or
on
on
ramp
to
I-98
United
Auto
practice
crime.
You
are
correct,
so
so
I
mean
they'll
mitigate
a
lot
of
traffic
issues.
In
my
mind,
through
the
neighborhood
I'm,
just
wondering
how
do
you
considered
that.
U
Q
It's
under
construction,
it
does
have
some
delays
because
it's
a
big
project,
the
lots
of
complicated
Factor
so
but
it
is
under
construction
and
I
think
your
timeline
is
probably
pretty
close
to
where
things
will
end
up
where
they
are
heading,
at
least
at
this
rate.
So
I
think
Patrick
raises
an
important
point
that
that
would
alleviate
quite
a
bit
of
truck
traffic,
which
was
actually
part
of
the
whole
purpose
of
the
parkway
like
the
parkway
or
not.
A
A
Q
A
more
just
to
sort
of
express
our
support.
Speaking
to
the
city
that
the
role
of
a
company
like
rhino
in
the
only
area
for
this
city,
they
said
it's
owned
and
we
specifically
created
as
an
industrial
park
that
is
literally
what
that
whole
area
was,
was
designed
and
and
purposely
built
and
developed
for
the
purpose
of
manufacturing.
It's
it's
there's
very
little
manufacturing
left
in
Vermont
in
little
in
Burlington,
but
Ryan
was
one
of
the
only
remaining
manufacturers
that
has
not
just
provides
family
wage
jobs,
but
provides
access
to
employment.
Q
For
many
folks,
from
whom
labor
market
participation
is
challenging
and
they've
been
an
exemplary
employer
since
over
20
years
or
more
than
that,
hiring
new
Americans
with
a
very
limited
English
proficiency
and
working
with
them
to
ensure
that
not
only
can
they
do
the
work,
but
they
develop
the
skills
to
navigate
light
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
unique
opportunity
to
to
talk
about.
Q
Creation
of
jobs
is
a
really
important
piece,
which
is
retention
and
preservation
of
jobs,
and
this
is
a
project
that
retains
jobs
in
our
region
and
the
bus
commitment
is
to
giving
it
because
rebound
Transit
is
right.
Next
door
is
the
most
serviced
public
transit
employer,
perhaps
anywhere
because
of
the
location
we
have
every
bus
originates.
You
know
it
doesn't
really
put
there.