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00:00:00 Announcements & Public Forum
00:09:32 Burlington Police Department-Chief Jon Murad
00:31:32 Burlington Community Justice Center Parallel Justice Program
01:04:14 BED - Building Electrification Policies
01:22:22 Friends of the FRAME
01:38:19 Dept of Public Works, Parking Services
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A
B
How's,
this
yep
okay
cool
all
right.
My
name
is
Bill
Riley
I'm,
a
resident
of
254
South
Union
Street
I
moved
into
the
neighborhood
in
19
November
of
1978.,
so
I've
been
here
for
a
while
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
read
you
a
post
that
was
that
that
I
composed
and
was
published
today
in
in
this
evening's
front
front
porch
forum
and
I'm
going
to
read
it
so
I,
so
I
everything's
intact,
and
it's
somewhat
coherent.
So
here
it
goes
and
it
has
to
do
with
242,
Main,
Street
and
Memorial
Auditorium.
B
B
A
proposal
to
include
a
revised
242
Main
as
part
of
any
reuse
project
has
been
submitted
by
a
group
headed
by
Jim
Lockridge,
big
heavy
World,
a
Howard
street-based
non-profit,
founded
to
pursue
and
promote
Vermont
music
for
more
than
30
years.
242
Maine
in
the
lower
level
of
Memorial
Memorial
Auditorium
was
in
all
ages.
B
Unfortunately,
242
Maine
was
closed
by
the
city
in
2016,
due
to
the
deteriorating
condition
of
Memorial
Auditorium,
regretfully
or
neglectfully,
no
alternative
space
was
ever
provided.
It
was
just
closed.
Please
when
the
time
comes.
Support
the
resurrection
of
242
may
but
I'm
going
to
read
next
is
a
is
a
quote
from
a
response
in
2018
to
a
save
242
Main
petition.
This
is
from
a
former
participant
at
242.
quote.
B
The
Youth
of
Burlington
deserve
a
space
to
call
their
own
in
which
they
can
Thrive
creatively
emotionally
and
become
adjusted
to
the
importance
of
their
community
for
deeper
insights.
There's
there's
more
details
on
this
past
Monday's,
Vermont,
Digger
and
you're,
going
to
be
able
to
read
the
the
full
petition
or
the
full
plan
for
Memorial
Auditorium
it'll,
probably
be
a
bit
it's
going
to
be
submitted
to
more
and
I'll
probably
be
available
next
week.
But
this
is
something
that's
really
important
to
the
Youth
of
our
community.
C
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Fareed.
Thank
you.
I
was
here
at
the
last
MBA
with
an
announcement
about
proposition
zero,
which
is
petition
to
change
the
city
Charter,
to
allow
voters
to
propose
and
pass
ordinances
on
the
through
the
ballot,
and
we
had
2
000
signatures
go
which
will
get
us
in
the
march
on
the
March
ballot
and
I'm
happy
to
announce
that
we
have
about
2500
signatures
so
far,
so
we
will
be
voting
on
this
proposal
in
during
the
march
election.
C
C
Remember
last
month,
commissioner
seguino
was
here
to
talk
about
some
of
the
reforms
that
have
been
going
on
with
the
Arlington
Police
Department
and
I
see
this
proposal
to
have
independent
oversight
of
the
police
as
part
of
that
rebuilding
of
trust
in
our
law
enforcement,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
address
the
larger
Public
Safety
questions.
So
I
urge
you
to
check
out
our
website
people
for
police
accountability.com
and
to
support
having
having
this
conversation
by
signing
our
petition.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
D
D
D
B
D
E
G
And
I'm
going
to
come
to
all
of
these
I
haven't
been
active
enough,
but
I
guess
there
are
some
people
in
this
room
who
are
here
as
in
an
official
capacity
because
they
hold
titles
or
positions
in
this
and
the
rest
of
the
reserve
citizens.
Would
it
be
useful
to
me
to
put
on
this
and
also
to
have
those
of.
A
H
I
D
D
J
J
I
won't
stroll
around
I
can
just
stand
right
here.
This
will
be
fine.
Thank
you
so
much
so.
Thank
you
for
having
me
tonight.
My
name
is
John
Murad
I
am
I'm.
The
acting
chief
of
police
here
in
Burlington
and
I
was
asked
to
come
and
speak
a
little
bit
about
something
that
we
call
the
crisis
team
so
as
as
I'm
sure
everyone
here
knows
in
in
June
of
2020.
J
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
police
nationally
and
here
in
Burlington,
and
a
component
of
that
discussion
was
what
do
we
want
police
to
do?
That
is
armed
police
officers,
and
what
do
we
want
to
try
to
find
other
ways
of
doing
and
for
the
police
department?
What
that
meant
was
a
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
of
sworn
police
officers
and
in
order
to
fill
gaps
in
service.
What
we
have
done
is
is
a
couple
of
things.
J
We
have
created
a
new
position,
we
have
augmented
an
existing
position
and
we
have
created
a
model,
a
paradigm
for
how
we
respond
to
things.
The
existing
position
was
something
called
the
community
Service
Officer
or
CSO
we
had
to
in
in
history,
and
usually
that
would
be
one
on
one
side
of
our
day
shift
and
one
on
the
other
side
of
our
day
shift.
We
worked
four
ten
hour
shifts
a
week
on
patrol,
and
that
means
that
there
are
there's
one
day
where
it
overlaps,
because
four
plus
four
is
eight,
not
seven.
J
So
there's
a
day
in
which
both
of
those
teams,
those
sides
of
our
schedule
are
in,
we
have
augmented
that
number
to
an
allotment
of
12.
We
currently
have
seven,
so
we
have
seven
community
service
officers,
they
are
unarmed,
they
are
unsworn,
they
do
not
have
law
enforcement
Powers,
although
they
can
write
Municipal
tickets
and
they
address
quality
of
life
issues,
and
they
are
a
way
of
trying
to
ensure
more
Olympics.
They
didn't
want
armed
officers,
responding
to
everything
that
we
nevertheless
are
able
to
respond.
J
The
other
piece
that
we
invented
that
we
created
new
whole
cloth.
We
based
it
on
an
existing
position
occupied
by
a
woman
whom
I
admire
tremendously
named
Lacey
Smith.
We
took
her
role
as
the
community
Affairs
liaison,
and
we
turned
it
into
our
community
support,
liaison
or
CSL
position.
I
have
allotted
six
of
those
I
currently
only
have
two
staff
who
are
working
to
hire.
Others
we've
got
four
in
the
pipeline
right
now.
Lacey
is
no
longer
the
Community
Affairs
liaison
she's.
J
Now
the
community
a
support
supervisor
and
she
supervises
these
positions
and
guides
them.
They
work
on
issues
around
chronic
mental
health
issues,
around
substance,
use
disorder
and
around
houselessness,
and
so
these
are
the
tools
that
we
have
in-house
at
the
Burlington
Police
Department
to
address
calls
for
service
that
don't
automatically
require
the
response
of
an
armed
police
officer.
However,
there
was
also
a
pronounced
desire
in
the
community
for
a
crisis
response,
something
that
would
it
would
go
to
critical
incidents.
J
J
Do
a
lot
of
follow-up
work,
I
liken
them
to
detectives
in
the
same
way
that
if
an
officer
goes
to
a
person's
home
and
that
person
says
I've
been
burgled
or
that
person
says,
there's
an
ongoing
series
of
crimes
here.
The
officer
takes
the
initial
report
and
then
passes
it
off
to
detectives
who
are
going
to
do
the
bulk
of
the
work.
An
example
would
be
the
tremendous
number
of
gunfire
incidents
and
shootings
that
we
experienced
over
the
past
year.
J
That
is
going
to
be
a
proposal
response
initially
because
that's
who's
on
and
who
is
going
and
then
we
turn
it
over
to
detectives
to
do
the
longer
term
work
if
we
don't
end
up
making
an
arrest
in
that
moment,
which
sometimes
we
do
we're
going
to
turn
into
detectives
same
is
true
of
an
incident
involving
somebody
who
who
maybe
has
caused
some
kind
of
public
order
issue
that
has
caused
the
police
to
be
called,
but
the
underlying
causes
of
that
public
order.
Issue
may
result.
J
May
relate
to
mental
health
or
substance
use
disorder
or
the
fact
that
the
person
is
unhoused
or
is
in
need
of
other
kinds
of
services.
The
officer
responds
addresses.
The
situation
in
the
moment
renders
everybody's
safely
the
best
of
his
or
her
ability,
and
then
says
you
know,
I,
don't
necessarily
they
have
the
tools
to
go
farther
with
this.
Can
you
CSL
and
passes
it
over
to
our
csls,
who
then
take
over
that
case
and
begin
to
work
with
the
individual
as
a
manager?
J
There
are
other
things
in
the
field
that
almost
didn't
involve
our
partners
at
Howard
Center,
including
their
street
Outreach
team,
and
so
that's
a
yet
another
tool
that
we
have
at
our
disposal
here
in
Burlington,
but
the
city
and
people
in
the
city
said
that
they
wanted
something
that
would
be
more
crisis.
Oriented
currently
crisis
is
the
purview
of
police.
If
there's
going
to
be
an
element
of
Crisis
or
danger,
it
is
going
to
be
a
police
response
and
what
we
do
as
police
officers
is.
J
J
To
deal
with
the
sort
of
the
aftermath
of
it
or
or
addressing
it
after,
it's
been
rendered
safe
by
the
police
and
we
also
work
with
Howard
Center's.
First
call
and
first
call
is
a
part
of
the
Howard
Center
that
addresses
critical
incidents
and
also
does
a
more
extant
mental
health
issues
than
Street
Outreach
necessarily,
and
they
are
clinicians,
but
other
communities
have
other
systems
and
the
one
that
has
gotten
the
most
attention.
I
think,
although
not
the
most
research
and
very
little,
is
known
about
how
it
actually
works.
J
But
it's
been
very
popular
because
it's
got
a
terrific
name
and
it
branded
itself
very
well
and
reporters
dug
into
it
during
the
days
of
the
police
Reform
movement
in
summer
2020
and
it
gained
a
huge
amount
of
attention,
and
that
is
the
kahoots
mod
out
of
Eugene
Oregon.
The
Cahoots
model
involves
the
deployment
of
a
clinical
social
worker
and
a
person
who
has
some
sort
of
medical
expertise,
usually
an
EMT
or
an
RN,
and
occasionally
somebody
is
as
well
tasked
and
skilled
as
a
paramedic,
but
most
of
the
time
EMTs.
J
We
essentially
do
that
right
now
we
do
that
with
our
health
Outreach
team.
They
routinely
deploy
with
fire
joining
them
at
the
scene,
but
they
don't
co-deploy
together
and
I'm.
The
Howard
workers
are
not
clinicians.
First
call
is
our
clinicians.
They
too
routinely
respond
with
the
fire
department,
but
again
not
together,
they're,
not
housed
together
and
they're,
not
doing
that
work
together
and
the
community
has
said
it
wants
something
like
that.
J
So
the
Burlington
Police
Department
put
together
an
RFP
or
request
for
proposals
back
in
Spring
of
this
past
year
and
that
RFP
went
out
to
the
public
to
say:
can
you
help
us
build
a
program
like
this,
and
it
is
a
crisis
team
that
would
have
clinicians
and
medical
people
co-responding
to
incidents
where
either
at
least
aren't
necessary
or
police
have
said.
We
responded
and
we
don't
believe
we
are
necessary
anymore
and
we
think
you
would
be
better
for
it.
J
There
were
people
responded
to
the
Erp,
including
Howard
Center,
and
we
have
worked
to
try
to
make
the
the
project
square
and
funding
has
been
an
issue.
The
city
and
the
mayor.
The
members
are
very
supportive
of
this.
The
city
council
is
very
supportive
of
it.
President
Paul
is
very
supportive
of
this,
but
the
city's
money
was
not
what
Howard
Center
estimated
the
program
costing,
and
so
we
have
now
gone
to
the
state
which
also
sent
out
an
RFP
of
its
own,
and
so
we
propagated
the
first
RFP
in
the
spring.
J
We're
now
responding
to
a
different
IOP
that
the
state
put
out
with
grant
money
that
is
available
for
these
kinds
of
programs
around
the
state,
and
we
have
submitted
an
RFP
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
from
that.
I
have
hired
an
implementer
to
take
over
this
work
to
Shepherd
it
in
ways
that
frankly,
I
was
not
able
to
do
over
the
course
of
the
summer.
J
Owing
to
the
fact
that
I
had
four
murders
and
was
being
called
out
just
about
every
weekend
or
two
times-
and
you
know
two
times
on
the
weekends
in
order
to
address
shootings
in
order
to
address
the
tremendous
uptick
in
different
kinds
of
crime
and
frankly,
I
did
not
move
this
bottle
as
far
down
the
Gridiron
as
I
would
have
liked.
So
we
hired
an
implementer
to
take
over
that
role.
She
was
formerly
on
opioid
coordinator
when
the
city
and
the
Burlington
Police
Department
were
really
invested
in
fighting
the
opioid
epidemic.
L
J
J
The
word
volume
is
going
to
turn
out
to
be
because
we
know
that
we
have
people
in
distress
in
this
community.
We
know
that
substance
use
disorder
is
is
higher
than
it
has
been.
Certainly,
our
overdose
numbers
are
are
much
higher
than
they've
ever
been,
but
we
are
addressing
a
lot
of
these
things
through
existing
systems.
Street
Outreach,
the.
A
J
We,
the
police
department,
are
having
a
hard
time
finding
folks,
that's
a
problem
that
is
sung
a
woeful
song
that
is
sung
across
the
country
in
almost
every
economic
sector.
Where
do
we
find
people
where
have
that
people
gone,
but
are
we
going
to
have
enough
of
a
through
crisis
incidents
to
justify
this
team?
That's
open
that's
open
for
discussion,
but
we
certainly
want
to
build
the
team.
Our
constituents
have
been
telling
us
they
want
it
again.
J
J
F
O
J
J
K
J
As
I
said
earlier,
I
think
a
large
degree
of
Cahoots
cachet
comes
from
their
terrific
name.
There
are
programs
that
are
being
done
as
well.
There
are
programs
in
Denver.
There
are
programs
in
Missouri
programs
in
in
Texas
in
Houston.
There
are
other
places
where
we
have
co-deployment
of
clinical
workers
and
even
First
Responders
in
the
form
of
police
or
First
Responders
in
the
form
of
EMTs
or
medical
workers.
J
J
Similarly,
and
the
reason
RTI
is
interested
in
getting
in
at
the
ground
level
with
these
entities,
us
included
is
because
there
is
not
a
lot
of
data
on
what
Hoots
has
actually
done
and
how
it
functions,
and
so
you
know
we're
helpful
to
have
a
lot
of
peace,
be
something
that
is
going
to
be
something
that
can
actually
be
studied
by
other
municipalities
trying
to
do
the
same
kind
of
work.
Your
first
question
was
around
detectives,
so
we
I
think
everyone
knows
we.
J
J
However,
the
city
council
in
October
last
year
raised
the
cap
back
not
to
whatever
it
is,
but
higher
than
it
had
been
so
from
25
to
68.
Excuse
me
to
74
to
87
now,
and
we
are
looking
to
grow
the
department
again
from
our
62
to
that
87,
the
25
additional
officers.
You
know
how
quickly
can
we
do
that?
It's
going
to
be
a
challenge,
but
we
have
a
terrific
budget
from
the
city
council
that
the
mayor
worked
very
hard
to
get
he's
tremendously.
Supportive
of
this
initiative.
J
We
have
a
really
strong
Police
contract,
and
so
the
hope
is
that
we
will
be
able
to
rebuild
in
the
course
of
the
next.
You
know
so,
hopefully
not
several
years,
hopefully
a
few
years,
not
several
years,
but
it
will
take
time.
There
was
a
lot
of
damage
done
to
this
Police
Department
with
regard
to
head
count
and
resourcing,
and
we
need
to
to
get
it
back.
How
many
detectives
do
I
have
I
currently
have
10.
and
that
is
Mercer
than
I
have
I'm,
not
a
functional.
J
In
my
detective
Bureau
than
I
am
in
my
patrol
Bureau.
At
the
moment,
I
am
required
by
contract
to
have
10
detectives
and
that
number
didn't
change,
even
as
the
overall
head
count
Trend.
So
the
what
the
piece
that
is
suffered,
the
most
is
our
Patrol
capacity.
I
have
officers
at
the
airport
and
I'm
required
by
law
by
federal
law
and
have
a
certain
number
there.
So
I
can't
really
reduce
my
footprint
at
the
airport.
J
I
can't
really
reduce
my
detective
footprint,
partly
because
of
contract
and
partly
from
efficacy,
and
this
past
year
has
proven
why
I
need
good
detectives.
We
have
an
80
solve
rate
on
our
shootings
where
persons
are
struck
and
a
hundred
percent
celebrate
on
our
murders,
and
that
goes
back
many
decades.
This
is
an
exemplary
Police
Department
with
regard
to
that
kind
of
work.
J
J
Chiefs,
it
includes
our
lieutenants,
our
sergeants
and
influence
officers
at
the
airport.
It
includes
officers
who
are
detectives,
it
includes
officers
who
are
Patrol
officers,
and
it
includes
the
I
have
three
specialized
rules
that
I
have
I
shred
I
used
to
have
more
specialized
roles,
but
the
first
thing
I
I
lost,
are
the
specialized
roles,
because,
when
you're,
when
you're
freezing
in
the
winter,
the
first
thing
that
starts
to
go
are
your
fingertips
right
and
you've
got
to
bring
those
things
in.
So
you
have
your
core
still
working.
J
We
lost
our
Community
Affairs
officer,
we
lost
our
emergency
response
officer,
but
I've
kept
our
domestic
violence
prevention
officer.
Incredibly
important
role
makes
life
easier
and
work
easier
for
other
roles,
and
so
the
the
the
win
of
of
taking
that
officer
and
putting
that
officer
on
one
shift
on
patrol
is
not
worth
the
loss
of
a
person
who
is
able
to
follow
through
domestic
violence.
Cases
which
are
are
uniquely
difficult,
and
so
we've
kept
our
dvpo.
J
We
have
a
recruiting
officer
because
recruit
if
we
can't
recruit,
we
are
simply
going
to
wither
and
our
challenge
right
now
is
to
retain
the
officers.
We've
got
to
stop
our
blood
loss
and
then
to
regrow,
and
that
recruiting
officer
is
incredibly
important
for
that,
and
so
those
are
are
sort
of
the
positions
that
we
have
that
are
outside
the
the
regular
roles
of
either
Patrol
or
detectives
or
airport.
All.
G
J
A
tree,
that's
not
for
you
as
the
caller,
you
call
9-1-1
and
let
dispatch
know
and
dispatch
will
treat
rajat
and
and
it'll
be
triaged
both
by
dispatch
and
if
not
by
Dispatch.
It
goes
to
a
supervisor.
We
have
implemented
a
priority
response
model.
I
started
it
in
May
of
2021
I
modified
it
in
May
of
2022.
It
limits
what
we
go
to.
J
We
do
not
go
to
as
many
things
as
we
used
to
you
can't
reduce
something
by
50
and
expect
it
to
do
what
it
used
to
do
so
our
model,
and
it's
it's
available
online.
You
can
look
at
it.
You
can
see
it
takes.
The
120
130
call
categories
that
we
have
in
our
our
computer,
aided
dispatch
system
called
valcor,
and
it
says
these
are
the
ones
that
police
will
go
to
no
matter
what
these
are,
the
ones
that
they
go
to
when
they
can.
J
These
are
the
ones
that
they
probably
rarely
go
to.
Here
are
some
that
we're
only
sending
csls
to
excuse
me
not
csls
csos
and
the
the
community
service
officers,
noise,
animal
complaints,
non-investigatory
crashes
and
here's
some
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
online,
that
if
you,
if
it
happens
to
you
when
you
call
you're,
going
to
be
told
to
do
it
online
and
that
stinks,
it
stinks
I
hate
it
I
hate
that
people
are
calling
asking
for
police
to
come,
which
used
to
be
our
default.
J
We
sent
police
to
everything
it
didn't
matter
whether
it
was
a
life
safety
incident
or
whether
it
was
late
reported
vandalism.
A
cop
would
come
to
your
home
and
find
you
and
take
that
report.
That
is
not
the
case
anymore.
It's
just
not
something
that
we
can
do,
and
so
that's
that's
how
we're
addressing
those
kinds
of
issues.
I
I
M
J
You
know
some
of
her
policies
are
are
clearly
stated:
she's
articulated
elaborate
memos
around.
What
she
thinks
is
is
the
threshold
for
vehicle
theft
and
Prosecuting,
that
for
other
kinds
of
criminal
possession
of
property,
and
then
there
are,
you
know
she
and
I
share
a
belief
that
in
many
instances
of
mental
health,
even
when
there's
criminality
that
ensues
because
of
a
person's
mental
health
are
not
appropriate
for
a
criminal
justice
outcome,
but
ought
to
have
a
psychiatric
outcome.
Our
problem
is,
we
don't
really
have
that
as
a
state
anymore.
J
We
do
not
have
a
custodial
psychiatric
Health,
Care
capacity
and
we
default
to
jail
and
one
place
where
I
I
do
believe.
She
and
I
disagree
bitten
and
we've
I've
spoken
to
her
about
this.
Is
that
when
I,
when
that,
when
that
disconnect
happens,
I'm
going
to
default
to
what
is
going
to
keep
the
public
safe
and
what
is
going
to
work
for
victims
and
I'm
less
concerned
with
what
the
person
who
did
these
things
is
how
that
person
is
go
I
want
that
person
treated
compassionately.
J
I
certainly
want
my
officers
to
treat
that
person
compassionately
I
want
your
police
to
be
good.
You
know
caring
police,
but
what
I
care
about
is
the
public
safety
element
of
that
and
not
necessarily
saying
I'm
not
going
to
jail
this
person
just
because
jail
is
going
to
be
worse
for
this
person
if
jails
works
for
the
person
but
better
for
the
society
and
the
public,
that's
where
I'm
going
to
go,
and
that
is
a
difference,
but
I
don't
control
that
decision.
I.
A
I
P
A
I
F
F
A
F
A
F
F
Q
N
Q
F
I
A
P
R
P
Our
presentation
today
is
community
based
and
it's
evidence-based.
Over
the
last
three
months.
Bridget
and
I
have
met
with
community
members
as
well
as
local,
local,
Regional
and
state
level,
stakeholders
and
representatives
working
in
the
field
of
Public
Safety,
in
a
variety
of
roles,
from
direct
service
providers
to
researchers
to
our
very
own
State's
Attorney,
Sarah
George.
Any
research
reference
in
the
presentation
will
be
available
on
our
community
information
session
page
on
the
website.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
and
for
allowing
us
into
your
space.
I'm
super
excited
to
be
here.
R
And
just
a
little
overview
of
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
today,
so
we'll
be
reviewing
current
climate
of
crime
in
Burlington
know
what
to
expect
what
happened?
What
to
expect
after
a
crime
happens,
understanding
the
root
causes
of
crimes,
identify
community-based
approaches
to
Public,
Safety
and
harm,
become
familiar
with
Community
Resources
and,
as
Lauren
said,
a
q
a
so.
P
P
Mutual
respect
between
police
and
people,
yes
to
more
community-based
social
workers,
not
jumping
to
the
conclusion
that
an
unusual
situation
is
a
dangerous
one.
Community
of
community
doesn't
jump
to
fear-based
reaction,
decriminalization
of
substance
use,
addiction,
I.
Think
one
of
the
places
we
could
really
improve
is
in
providing
well-funded
alternatives
to
the
police.
Huge
fractions
of
our
city
budget
gets
put
into
Burlington
Police,
despite
the
majority
of
calls
to
9-1-1,
not
demanding
an
armed
response.
R
We
also
know
that
violence
is
learned,
which
means
that
the
circumstances
that
increase
a
person's
risk
of
becoming
a
victim
or
perpetrator
can
be
undone.
We
will
discuss
prevention
later
in
the
presentation,
but
first
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
about
the
current
climate
of
crime
in
Burlington
here,
which
this
image
shows
reported
instance
of
crime.
As
of
mid-devember
of
this
year,
we
recognize
that
this
depiction
does
not
capture
unreported
crimes,
but
is
a
good
representation
of
the
general
climate
of
crime.
R
R
So
this
is
just
another
depiction,
so
yeah
this
might
be
an
easier
graph
to
read,
but
this
is
another
depiction
of
the
previous
slide
that
shows
percentages
of
those
same
categories.
Data
like
this
basically
informs
community-based
approaches
to
Public,
Safety
and
Community
violence.
Intervention
programs,
for
instance,
stolen
vehicles,
has
the
highest
increase.
You
see
there
at
the
bottom.
R
What
we're
noticing
is
that
the
recovery
rate
for
stolen
vehicles
is
actually
pretty
high,
so
the
likelihood
that
you
just
you
know,
get
back
your
vehicle
is
high,
but
it
may
not
be
in
the
same
condition
as
you
expect.
It
may
have
needles,
bodily
fluids,
stolen
items
and
personal
items
from
the
person
who
stole
the
vehicle
that
are
left
behind,
indicating
that
possibly
the
car
is
being
used
at
shelter
or
consumption,
room
for
substances
and
then
left
abandoned
when
gas
runs
out.
R
R
P
I
do
also
want
to
just
share.
It
is
not
going
to
be
a
distraction
to
at
least
me
if
you
want
to
go
up
closely
to
that
screen.
You
know,
get
up
now
go
and
take
a
look
at
any
point.
I
will
not
be
offended
so
if
that
feels
important
to
you,
you
can
take
a
look
at
it
now,
but
we
will
also
make
everything
available
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
Sound
good,
okay,.
R
So
this
is
a
very
simplified
flow
of
what
to
expect.
After
crime
happens,
when
there
is
a
suspect,
we
recognize
that
some
of
you
in
the
room
may
be
very
familiar
with
crime
in
Burlington
and
know
all
too
well.
What
happens
after
crime
occurs?
We
at
the
Burlington,
Community,
Justice
Center,
realize
the
incidence
of
crime
and
harm
in
our
city
have
had
a
tremendous
impact
on
individuals,
families,
neighborhoods
and
community
at
large,
and
these
impacts
have
been
significant.
R
The
losses
have
been
emotional,
tangible,
physical,
monetary
and
traumatic,
and
we
are
sorry
that
some
of
you
have
been
victims
of
assault,
larceny,
burglary
and
stolen
vehicles,
to
name
a
few,
and
we
hope
that
you
have
felt
supported
by
the
community
in
the
aftermath
if
you
have
not
felt
supported.
That's
also
partly
why
we
are
here,
as
Lauren
mentioned
earlier,
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
with
folks
over
the
last
several
months
and
we
sense
that
the
community
is
feeling
disconnected
and
mistrustful
of
their
neighbors
and
systems
in
place
to
help
them.
R
We
want
you
to
know
that
there
are
resources
available
which
we
will
get
into
at
the
end
and
I
apologize.
I
can't
zoom
in
on
this,
but
so
this,
like
I
said,
is
a
simple
flow
for
maybe
those
who
are
not
as
familiar
or
who
are
confused
about
what
happens
about
with
the
process
after
a
crime
occurs
when
a
criminal
investigation
leads
to
a
suspect.
So
after
crime
occurs,
an
arrest
is
made
after
a
report.
R
An
officer
can
refer
directly
to
the
community
Justice
Center
for
crimes
such
as
like
a
simple
assault,
retail
theft
in
larcenies.
Once
it
goes
to
the
community
Justice
Center,
it
will
go
through
the
restorative
justice
process,
in
which
the
restorative
justice
process
includes
somebody
who
addresses
the
victim's
needs,
as
well
as
the
person
who
we
consider
the
responsible
party
similar
to
a
defendant
in
the
criminal
justice
system
in
the
more
immediacy.
After
a
referral,
and
even
if
there
is
not
an
arrest,
parallel
Justice
helps
with
the
more
immediate
needs
and
safety
planning.
R
The
officer
also
can
refer
to
the
State's
Attorney's
office
for
review
the
State's
Attorney's
Office
reviews
cases,
and
they
can
paint
the
prosecutes
decline
or
send
to
Diversion
if
a
crime
is
prosecuted,
a
case
is
picked
up.
The
victim
Advocate
at
the
state
attorney's
office
will
address
the
victim
and
help
with
their
needs
and
help
them
know
their
victim
rights
throughout
the
criminal
justice
process.
R
P
And
we've
included
a
line
here
that
links
crime
to
no
report
over
to
parallel
Justice
Just,
to
further
emphasize
that
we
are
a
resource
to
people
wherever
they
are
at
with
the
criminal
justice
system,
whether
they
have
questions
about
how
to
file
a
police
report.
What
is
the
criminal
justice
system?
P
We
have
a
lot
of
new
Americans
in
our
community
or
folks
who
say:
I'm
not
really
sure
I
want
to
file
a
police
report
and
I'm
hurt
we're
there
for
each
and
every
one
of
those
stages
just
the
same,
and
so
we
have
that
line
there
to
really
emphasize
that
that
our
door
is
always
open,
even
if
you're
not
sure,
if
we're
an
appropriate
resource
for
you.
We
welcome
the
call
we'll
talk
it
out,
we'll
figure
out
whether
what
you're
sharing
with
us
will
stay
in-house
or
if
we
can
make
a
referral
to
somewhere
else.
R
And
so
next,
this
is
an
even
simplified
version
where
their
crime
happens,
and
there
is
no
suspect.
Not
all
investigations
lead
to
an
identifiable
identifiable
sub
suspect,
sorry,
which
can
be
frustrating
and
discouraging
but
a
real
possibility.
In
those
cases,
the
beginning
of
the
process
is
similar.
So,
as
you
see,
a
crime
is
reported
either
online
or
with
an
officer,
an
officer
conducts
a
review
of
the
online
report
or
opens
an
investigation.
But
if
the
investigation
turns
up
no
leads,
no
solvability
factors.
The
case
may
lead
to
no
arrests.
R
F
F
F
F
F
P
Great,
so
what
we
have
on
the
screen
now
the
title
of
this
slide
is
called
to
prevent
crime.
We
need
to
understand
and
respond
to
its
roots.
So
there
are
a
few
things
happening
on
this
slide,
including
a
chart
in
the
middle
that
was
compiled
by
the
prison
policy
initiative
with
using
data
from
the
Substance
Abuse
and
Mental
Health
Services
administrations.
National
survey
on
drug
use
and
health
and
that
chart
shows
people
with
multiple
arrests
have
serious
health
needs
so
to
prevent
crime.
P
P
Fortunately,
in
China
and
County,
we
have
a
growing
emphasis
on
services
for
people
with
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
disabilities,
who
come
into
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system.
This
is
a
step
in
the
direction
of
treating
substance,
abuse,
mental
illness,
poverty
and
houselessness,
as
public
health
issues
and
I'm
excited
to
live
in
a
community
that
has
increasingly
shown
its
support
for
its
community
members
who
experience
such
significant
barriers
in
Health
Equity,
using
nationally
representative
data
from
the
national
survey
on
drug
use
and
health.
P
The
prison
policy
initiative
found
that,
for
the
at
least
4.9
million
people
that
were
arrested
and
jailed
in
2017,
at
least
one
in
four
of
those
individuals
were
booked
into
jail
more
than
once
during
the
same
year.
The
graph
that's
shown
on
the
slide
tells
us
that
the
people
who
were
booked
into
jail
more
than
once
had
a
substance
use
disorder.
P
Another
way
to
put
all
of
this
is
to
say
that
most
of
the
people
who
are
arrested
multiple
times,
don't
pose
a
serious
public
safety
risk
and
folks
are
instead
being
punished
for
not
getting
their
most
basic
needs
met.
I
can't
help
but
wonder
and
consider
how
at
present,
we
are
relying
on
a
system
of
punishment
to
address
an
issue
of
health
and
life
chances,
research,
information,
relationship,
building
and
understanding,
however,
can
direct
public
and
Community
investments
in
care.
P
This
includes
employment,
assistance,
education
and
vocational
training,
financial
assistance,
mental
health
and
substance
use
treatment
and
checking
in
on
your
neighbors.
These
are
investments
that
can
help
heal
the
conditions
that
lead
many
of
our
community
members
to
police
contact
in
the
first
place.
P
So
on
our
next
slide
here
we
have
a
graph,
it's
a
depiction
of
a
tree,
and
there
are
Roots
at
the
bottom
of
that
tree
and
it
shows
the
Pair
of
Aces
and
for
those
who
don't
know,
aces
are
adverse
childhood
experiences.
That's
the
original
assessment
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
the
other
pair
is
the
adverse
Community
environments,
and
so
that's
a
tree
there
and
I'm
going
to
go
into
what
all
of
that
means
now.
P
So
I
was
surprised
to
find
that
there
is
a
lack
of
research
on
the
relationship
between
adverse
childhood
experiences,
also
known,
as
also
known
as
Aces
and
adult
Criminal
Justice
System
contact,
considering
that
exposure
to
trauma,
particularly
in
childhood,
has
been
associated
with
a
greater
risk
of
substance,
use,
disability
and
mental
illness
and
not
a
significant
amount
of
adults
who
go
to
jail
each
year.
Experience
these
adversities,
then
the
lack
of
research
on
this
relationship
is
a
critical
limitation
and
a
key
area
for
crime
and
harm
prevention.
P
Aces
are
determined
by
an
assessment
created
by
the
Center
for
Disease,
Control
and
prevention.
The
assessment
uses
a
scoring
system
that
attributes
one
point
for
each
category
of
adverse
childhood
experiences.
The
questions
each
cover
a
different
domain
of
trauma
and
refer
to
experiences
that
occurred
prior
to
the
age
of
18.,
higher
scores
like
four
or
above
with
the
highest
score
being
10,
indicate
increased
exposure
to
trauma,
especially
when
the
score
is
informed
by
adverse
Community
environments
like
racism,
poverty,
poor
housing,
quality
and
affordability,
lack
of
opportunity
and
overall
Community
disruption.
P
You'll
see
on
the
tree
here
that
both
Aces
and
adverse
Community
environments
are
shown
when
taking
up
a
root,
cause
analysis
of
crime
and
harm.
It
is
in
our
best
interest
to
consider
a
person's
experiences
and
environments
leading
up
to
the
arrest
and
not
simply
the
choices
that
they
made,
which
led
to
the
arrest
that
adverse
Community
environments
represent.
The
roots
of
the
tree
demonstrates
how
Community
environments
inform
family
structure,
relationships,
life
chances
and
Life
Choices
so
because
we
can't
all
see
the
screen
I'll
just
name
some
of
the
few
adverse
childhood
experience.
P
Traumas
that
are
on
that
tree,
which
would
include
substance,
abuse,
domestic
violence,
homelessness,
mental
illness,
incarceration,
physical
and
emotional
neglect.
Divorce,
maternal
depression,
emotional
and
sexual
abuse,
and
for
adverse
Community
environments.
We
have
poor
housing,
quality
and
affordability,
discrimination
and
poverty
just
to
name
a
few
all
right.
P
P
R
So
this
is,
as
Lauren
is
saying
you
have
like
risk
factors
and
vulnerabilities,
so
this
is
just
like
a
heat
map
from
the
Vermont
Department
of
Health.
That
shows
these
darker
areas,
which
is
Burlington,
has
a
higher
risk
when
you
just
consider
socioeconomic
and
poverty,
and
these
kinds
of
maps
would
indicate
in
inform
what
kind
of
programming
is
needed
in
certain
areas.
P
This
is
a
really
important
slide
to
our
presentation,
because
this
is
a
slide
that
takes
a
few
data
points
from
the
first
ever
survey
on
victims.
Experiences
with
crime
in
the
United
States
I
was
similarly
surprised
that
it
was
the
first
survey
of
its
kind,
and
so
this
is
from
the
National
Alliance
for
safety
and
Justice,
and
perhaps
this
may
come
as
a
surprise
to
some,
but
a
significant
percentage
of
victims
of
both
violent
and
non-violent
crime
prefer
increased
investments
in
treatment
options
for
those
who
have
caused
harm
over
prisons
in
jail.
P
And
again,
this
is
a
really
important
slide
to
our
presentation,
because
we
work
with
victims
of
crime
and
harm
and
as
we
strive
to
be
victim,
informed
and
victim-centered,
we're
not
going
to
make
any
strives
forward
unless
we're
Vicki
we're
listening
to
victims
themselves
and
yeah.
Maybe
we
can
just
skip
to
the
next
one.
In
the
sake
of
time,
because
we're
going
to
talk
some
we're
going
to
talk
shop
about
a
little
bit
more
about
what
we
do
at
the
Burlington
Community
Justice
Center
and
where
we
come
in
here.
R
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
so
we're
victim
Services
Specialists.
So
we
kind
of
lead
up
to
this
and
understand
root
causes
of
harm.
As
Lauren
said,
people
who
have
harmed
have
also
been
harmed,
and
so
we
realize
that
those
can
flip-flop
day
to
day.
So
we
open
our
doors
to
anybody,
who's
been
affected
by
crime
and
harm
and
the
whole
premise
of
parallel
Justice.
R
And
so
we
help
them
do
that
with
a
victim-centered
approach
that
supports
them
with
emotional
support
safety,
planning
systems,
advocacy,
resource
coordination
and
some
limited
financial
assistance,
and
we
recognize
that
victim
may
never
see
the
inside
of
a
courtroom
and
that
this
may
be
the
only
Justice
that
they
are
able
to
achieve,
and
then
helping
them
just
to
feel
supported
by
the
community
is
like
a
major
in
our
program
and
Lauren
knows
about
the
conflict.
Assistance
program.
P
P
A
lot
of
the
work
that
she
does
is
around
neighborhood
disputes
conflict
coaching,
a
lot
of
one-on-one
support,
as
well
as
restorative
dialogues
between
both
people
that
are
involved
in
that
conflict,
and
these
are
all
services
that
happen
at
the
community
level
that
can
help
de-escalate
existing
conflicts
and
also
prevent
interpersonal
conflict.
Clicks
from
forming
all
of
our
services
are
sliding
scale
or
they're
free,
and
we
never
turn
any
anyone
away
for
a
lack
of
funds.
R
P
R
So
here
we
just
have
different,
so
we
talked
about
you
know
like
community-based
approaches
to
Public
Safety,
and
sometimes
it
feels
like
it's
something
we're
always
working
towards,
but
actually
we
have
some
already
in
place
here,
so
things
like
Old,
North,
End,
Mutual
Aid.
They
just
received
a
grant
at
Pathways
for
a
peer
Workforce
Development
program.
Turning
point
is
a
peer-supported
Recovery
Center
Howard
Center
has
a
street
Outreach
which
builds
relationships
with
folks.
We
have
faith-based
organizations
such
as
a
new
place,
which
has
a
low
barrier
facility
for
people
facing
houselessness.
P
That's
based
out
of
New
York
City,
so
the
secret
to
a
healthy
Community.
It
might
lie
in
our
relationships
to
one
another:
genuine
Partnerships
between
community
members,
policy
makers
and
community-based
organizations,
particularly
those
led
by
formerly
justice
system
involved,
people,
advances,
Community,
Trust,
public
safety
and
health
and
racial
equity.
A
A
A
K
Dan
we
appreciate
it,
so
thank
you,
everyone
we
really
appreciate
being
here.
My
name
is
Jennifer
green
and
I'm.
The
director
of
sustainability
and
Workforce
Development
at
Burlington,
electric
and
I'm,
so
pleased
to
be
here
with
general
manager.
Darren
Springer.
Our
plan
tonight
over
our
next
20
minutes
is
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
commercial
electrification
policies,
building
policies
that
we're
considering
and
that
the
city
council
has
requested
and
then
get
some
feedback
from
from
you
all
before
that,
though
I
do
want
to
just
set
the
table.
K
So
we
all
understand
sort
of
some
of
the
basic
assumptions
that
are
coming
into
the
building,
electrification
policies
that
were
we'd
like
to
potentially
recommend
and
that's
bed's
history
and
the
fact
that
we're
the
first
utility
for
city
in
the
country
to
Source
100
of
our
electricity
from
Renewables.
As
you
may
all
be
aware.
K
Transportation
and
built
environment
by
2030.,
essentially
becoming
a
Net
Zero
Energy
City
by
2030.,
so
to
help
us
in
that
effort,
we're
fortunate
that
we
have
funding
that
we
distribute
by
way
of
incentives
and
rebates
for
heat
pumps
and
really
anything
that
you
want
to
use
electricity
for
from
lawn
mowers,
they're
into
big,
a
lawnmower,
Aficionado
electric
vehicles,
of
course
e-bikes
Etc.
So
we
have
sort
of
that
bucket
of
support.
We
also
have
technical
support
that
we
offer
through
our
Energy
Efficiency
team.
K
Together,
these
things
are
helping
us
on
our
path,
but
we
know
that
we
can't
do
it
with
just
what
we
think
of
as
sort
of
carrots
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
policy
as
well,
and
hence
the
city
council
coming
to
us
and
asking
for
some
building
recommendations
or
policy
recommendations,
particularly
around
electrification
of
large
commercial
spaces
and
our
city
buildings.
So
I'm
really
happy
now
to
turn
it
over
to
Darren.
S
Thanks
John
great
to
be
with
everybody,
I'm
Darren,
Springer,
general
manager
with
Burlington
electric.
This
is
the
last
MPA
meeting
on
our
NPA
Road
Show
on
this
topic
and
we're
glad
to
be
with
you.
We
are
scheduled
to
present
on
this
topic
Monday
evening
at
city
council
for
any
frequent
city
council.
Meeting
Watchers
you'll
see
us
there
and
we
really
this
kind
of
dates
back
to
the
town
meeting
Day
2021
vote.
S
If
folks
recall,
we
had
a
vote
on
whether
the
city
should
seek
a
charter
change
related
to
regulating
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
buildings,
and
we
got
about
65
percent
of
the
community
said.
Yes,
there
was
also
an
advisory
ballot
question
that
spoke
to
trying
to
provide
some
of
the
benefits
from
this
approach
in
an
equitable
manner
to
the
community,
no
worries
and,
and
so
after
those
votes.
We
had
consideration
in
the
legislature
this
past
session
of
the
charter
change.
S
It
was
approved,
the
governor
signed
it
that
happened
around
April
and
then
in
May.
The
city
council
resolution
that
Jen
referenced
was
adopted
that
asked
us
and
the
Department
of
Permitting
and
inspections
to
look
into
policy
recommendations
for
building
emission
reduction
and
we're
focused
primarily
on
new
construction
on
large
existing
buildings
which
we're
defining
is
about
50,
000
square
feet
or
larger,
really
only
about
80
buildings
in
the
city
that
meet
that
threshold
and
then
City
buildings
as
well.
S
So
what
we're
not
doing
is
we're
not
proposing
anything
related
to
residential
housing,
whether
single,
family
or
multi-family
or
rental
or
condo
we're
not
proposing
anything
related
to
small
businesses.
This
is
really
for
new
construction,
City
buildings
and
the
largest
existing
commercial
buildings
in
the
city,
and
we
issued
an
interim
report.
It's
up
on
our
website
on
July
18th
we've
had
a
number
of
stakeholder
meetings.
S
We
currently
have
a
requirement
that
was
passed
last
year
that
says
that
the
heating
system
has
to
be
renewable,
so
this
would
expand
that
to
cover
more
uses
within
the
building,
and
we
also
would
be
able
to
say
that
if
you're
not
able
able
to
use
a
renewable
heating
system
or
a
renewable
fuel
that
there
could
be
a
carbon
impact
fee
as
an
alternative
compliance
that
would
apply
at
the
time
of
permit
for
new
construction.
It's
in
addition
for
the
large
existing
buildings
and
the
city
buildings.
S
It
would
be
a
similar
requirement,
move
towards
a
renewable
heating
system
or
renewable
water
heating
system
if
you're
pulling
a
permit
for
an
existing
building.
Large
existing
building
or
city
building,
or
in
the
case
of
the
large
existing
buildings,
you
could
also
pay
the
alternative
compliance
fee.
We
have
a
couple
ideas
within
the
report
for
how
to
utilize
proceeds
from
the
from
the
fee.
S
One
of
them
would
be
to
help
the
city
with
its
own
efforts
to
Electrify
its
Fleet
and
its
vehicles
and
its
Lawn
Equipment,
which
can
save
money
for
all
taxpayers
and
help
with
the
city
in
terms
of
leading
by
example.
A
second
effort
would
be
to
create
a
new
city
fund
to
support
clean
heating
installations
for
low-income
residents
and
low-income
renters,
which
would
be
consistent
with
the
advisory
question.
S
So
that's
kind
of
a
very
hopefully
quick
enough
summary
of
what
we're
looking
at.
It's
a
it's
a
relatively
long
memo
for
us
about
eight
pages.
It's
got
some
analysis
in
there
and
we'll
we'll
go
into
more
detail.
I
think
at
the
city
council
meeting,
but
really
we're
hoping
to
hear
is:
if
folks
have
feedback
for
us.
S
Have
ideas
have
questions
we're
happy
to
have
those
as
well
as
just
sometimes
when,
when
Jen
and
I
visit
the
mpas
people
have
questions
more
generally
about
Burlington
electric
about
our
work
about
different
Technologies.
So
we're
happy
to
talk
about
anything,
that's
of
interest
and
I'll
pause
there.
Thanks
for
having
us.
I
F
N
Yeah
I'm
Megan,
eppler,
wood
and
I
read
the
previous
projections
that
were
done
by
the
outside
firm
from
Cambridge,
and
they
emphasized
rental
housing
as
being
one
of
the
most
important
ways
of
reducing
our
towards
net
zero
and
I
noticed.
That's
no,
not
and
I
talked
to
someone
about
that
and
it
seemed
very
unfeasible
to
work
with
the
that
part
of
the
problem
in
a
rapid
manner.
So
I'm
wondering
how
you
came
up
with
these
new
assumptions
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
work
with
rental
housing.
We.
S
Definitely
believe
rental
housing
has,
you
know,
has
policy
associated
with
it,
but
this
set
of
recommendations
isn't
focused
on
rental
housing.
What
we
do
have
is
was
passed
in.
2021
is
rental,
weatherization
standards
that
are
affecting
rental
housing,
existing
rental
housing.
We
basically
start
with
the
law,
largest
energy
use,
buildings
and
they're,
going
through
compliance
now,
and
we
look
at
having
a
phase-in
over
a
period
of
the
next
few
years
as
we
get
through
each
cohort.
S
There's
a
challenge
with
weatherization
there's,
not
enough
Workforce,
there's
a
backlog
in
terms
of
you
know
if
you're
trying
to
participate
in
one
of
the
programs,
the
utility
programs
or
the
state
programs,
so
that
policy
tries
to
really
set
up
a
kind
of
staged
process
with
the
rental
buildings
to
get
the
biggest
energy
users
first
and
then
kind
of
move
through
and
get
to
a
point
where
all
buildings
have
some
basic
weatherization
and
we're
not
losing
Fuel
and
warmth
out
the
window
or
out
the
you
know.
Unsealed,
you
know
property
just.
S
There's
no
question:
Net
Zero
2030
is
very,
very
ambitious
goal.
It's
basically
the
most
ambitious
climate
goal
anywhere
in
the
country.
I
think
Ann,
Arbor
Michigan
has
now
adopted
a
similar
goal,
so
we're
not
alone,
but
we
were
first
and
what
I
think
of
as
Net
Zero
2030
is
really
it's
a
guiding
kind
of
North
Star.
Is
that
if
you
have
that
ambitious
of
a
goal,
it
does
require
that
you
concentrate
your
minds
on
all
the
different
tools
in
the
toolbox,
as
Jen
was
mentioning
the
incentives,
the
policies.
S
S
M
So
I
I
love
your
presentation,
I
love
what
you
do
a
fantastic
job,
but
one
opportunity
that
I
like
to
that
I
see
is
I
live
next
to
Champlain
College.
They
have
parking
lots
parking
lots
all
over
the
place.
They're
water
issues
with
parking
lots.
There
are
heat
issues
with
parking
lots.
Why
doesn't
Burlington
electric
develop
a
plan
to
put
solar
panels
on
parking
lots
and
deal
with
the
water
deal
with
the
electricity?
You
know
it
seems
like
that
would
be
a
real
opportunity.
Yeah.
S
We
love
solar
panels
on
parking,
lots
we're
for
it.
You
know
we.
We
have
a
state
program
that
is
called
the
net
metering
program
where,
if
somebody
wanted
to
put
up
a
structure
and
be
able
to
use
their
parking
lot,
they
can
participate
in
that
program
where
they
can
use
some
of
the
energy
on
site.
They
can
send
some
of
it
back
to
the
grid
and
we
pay
them
for
the
energy
that
they're
sending
back.
S
So
that's
that's
one
Avenue
to
do
that,
and
then
we
also
look
at
Power
purchase
agreements
so
there's
a
great
example
I.
Think
of
of
what
you're
talking
about
over
at
the
echo
Museum
I
was
down
there
for
the
opening
of
that
that's
Encore,
Renewables,
local
Burlington,
renewable
company
and
they've
got
I.
Think
it's
150
kilowatts
of
solar
parking
canopy
cover
a
lot
of
co-benefits
associated
with
that
and
we're
supporting
that
project
and
are
participating
in
that.
S
So
I
agree
with
you
we're
on
board
and
we
we
definitely
like
to
find
opportunities
for
solar
in
the
city,
because
we
don't
have
big
Open
Fields
like
there
are
in
rural
Vermont,
where
you
might
be
able
to
place
a
larger
project.
So
we're
really
looking
at
exactly
this.
It's
rooftop,
it's
parking
structures.
O
Again,
that's
great
BD
city
and
you
know
you're
looking
at
this
through
Electrical
lens
and
but
there
has
been
efforts
to
build
out
District
energy
and
for
those
people
don't
know
District
energy,
that's
using
waste
Heat
at
the
at
the
plant
at
our
at
our
power
plant
and
distributing
it
through
the
city
over
major
lines
and
trunk
lines
and
then
and
then
two
other
smaller
buildings
and
I
think
there's
at
least
one.
Maybe
two
anchor
tenants
who've
said
that
they
would
be
willing
to
involve
this.
O
S
S
So
this
most
recent
iteration
is
four
years
old,
but
the
the
you
know
the
effort
is
40
years
old.
That
said,
we
have
a
presentation
also
on
Monday
evening
to
give
the
council
a
substantive
update
on
District
energy,
myself
and
Neil
lunderville
who's,
the
CEO
of
Vermont
Gas
and
Michael
O'hearn
who's
a
vice
president
at
Evergreen
energy.
So
I
invite
you
to
tune
in
we've
got
some
some
exciting
announcements
coming
on
District
energy.
We
continue
to
move
the
project
forward.
The
challenge
is
at
the
moment
is
financial.
S
It
would
be
a
debt
Finance
project
and
interest
rates
are
higher.
So
that's
one
challenge.
Electric
market
prices
are
a
lot
higher,
so
that
also
creates
some
challenges
for
us
at
McNeil,
and
then
the
construction
pricing
has
gone
up
over
the
course
of
the
last
several
years.
On
the
other
hand,
we
were
able,
with
Senator
Leahy's,
help
to
secure
some
federal
funding
a
little
over
5
million
that
could
go
towards
supporting
the
project,
so
we're
working
hard
on
the
financials
of
that
and
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
move
it
forward.
D
H
S
This
gets
into
a
great
question,
which
is
the
carbon
accounting
of
biomass
right,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
different
opinions
on
it.
What
we
do
at
McNeil,
I
would
argue
is
different
than
what
some
people
think
of
with
biomass.
If
you
were
clear,
cutting
and
not
restoring
the
woods,
what
we
have
is
four
Foresters
who
work
with
us.
S
The
methane
leaks
from
the
pipelines,
the
different
you
know,
extraction
related
emissions,
so
kind
of
give
us
the
worst
case
for
McNiel
and
the
best
case
for
the
gas
plant,
and
they
came
back
and
said:
McNeil's
still,
85
percent
better
on
emissions
than
the
natural
gas.
That's
the
dominant
fuel
in
New
England,
so
we're
fairly
we're
fairly
proud
of
the
work
that's
going
on
at
McNeil.
It's
a
very
complicated
area
of
carbon
accounting.
So
I
appreciate
appreciate
you
asking
about
it.
I
A
F
F
E
E
I,
don't
know
if
if
people
have
been
down
to
the
Waterfront
lately,
it's
starting
to
get
a
bit
cold
and
windy,
but
here
are
some
photos
from
a
few
weeks
ago.
It's
looking
really
nice
down
there
and,
depending
on
kind
of
the
weather
the
time
of
day,
you
can
see
that
the
experience
and
the
way
that
it
looks
kind
of
changes
throughout
the
day
in
a
really
really
nice
way.
E
Also
on,
on
my
end
of
things
with
Friends
of
the
frame
we've
been,
we've
had
a
few
kind
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
push
ahead
here,
leading
up
to
the
end
of
the
year.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
was
we
launched
a
website
for
the
frame.
It's
the
frame,
btv.org,
that's
gonna
kind
of
be
the
the
main
place
to
go
to
find
out
about
upcoming
events
or
installations
or
just
general
goings-on
at
the
frame.
E
There's
also
places
where
people
can
read
about
the
history
of
this
of
the
Moran
plant
and
how
it
got
to
be
the
Moran
frame.
There's
places
to
donate
and
and
this
website
will
kind
of
grow
and
evolve
over
time
and
there's
some
plans
to
bring
some
really
interesting
engagement
tools
so
that
people
can
kind
of
provide
feedback
or
share
ideas
almost
in
real
time
and
kind
of
build
upon
the
legacy
of
the
of
the
Moran
frame.
E
E
That's
a
that's
a
mock-up
of
it,
but
it
will
look
like
that
and
there
will
be
views
kind
of
from
far
away
in
Waterfront
Park
as
well.
It's
going
to
be
a
very
kind
of
cool
immersive
thing
with
sound
and
and
projection.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
the
other
really
big
thing.
That's
going
on
right
now
that
I'll
spend
some
time
talking
about,
is
friends
of
the
frames
pursuing
a
kind
of
unique
Grant
opportunity
with
the
state
of
Vermont.
E
Although
the
the
building
superstructure
was
in
pretty
good
shape
overall,
but
there
were
Hazard
hazardous
materials,
asbestos
lead
paint
all
kinds
of
nasty
stuff
that
are
very
expensive
to
deal
with,
and
you
don't
really
see
anything
new.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
I
mean
the
steel
was
painted.
This
awesome
red
color.
E
This
is
the
mix
that
we
think
you
know
it
adds
some
of
these
kind
of
compelling
elements
that
people
get
a
little
bit
more
excited
about,
perhaps
than
others,
but
also
has
really
kind
of
utilitarian
things
that
come
up
in
every
time.
Every
discussion
about
somebody
who
might
want
to
have
an
event
at
the
frame
like
do
you
have
storage
on
site,
that's
lockable
and
secure
and
so
figuring
out.
E
How
do
you
kind
of
balance
the
needs
with
with
the
things
that
are
more
exciting
but
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
good
mix
here
and
really
what
this
is
going
to
do
is
is
bring
enable
a
kind
of
robust
set
of
activations
events
and
installations
in
2023
that
are
actually
going
to
serve
as
kind
of
a
ground
test
for
some
ideas
about
longer
term
use
of
this
space.
And
what
can
it
be
and
what
should
it
be?
E
And
what
works
well
and
what's
missing
and
we're
really
kind
of
kind
of
paired
this
with
soliciting
feedback
from
the
public
and
that's
going
to
drive
future
decision
making,
and
so
here's
kind
of
where
we
are
with
our
crowdfunding,
the
crowdfunding
portion
of
our
campaign.
We
have
two
weeks
left
and
we've
got
eleven
thousand
dollars
to
go.
O
Yeah
well,
I
know
crowdfunding.
You
know
that
is
very
difficult.
Greg
eplerwoods,
thanks
Craig
in
case
you
didn't
hear
it
first
two
times
you
know
to
do
a
crowdfront.
You
really
need
some
incentives
and
where
those
three
areas
and
those
little
bullet
points
under
those
three
areas,
that's
the
crowdfunding.
What
you're
pitching
to
that.
E
E
O
This
is
pie
in
the
sky,
but
when
the
when
the
big
hole
was
they
were
going
to
put
buildings
up
up,
you
know
and
I
was
I
plotted
out
and
I
even
made
some
contacts.
So
by
putting
a
ski
lift
from
the
frame
up
to
the
top
of
one
of
those
buildings
up
there
and
it
works,
I
mean
I
was
looking
at
it.
It's
a
nice
shot
and
because
people
want
to
get
high,
that
building
is
there.
O
G
F
N
E
E
This
pilot
phase
is
really
next
year's
kind
of
you
know:
there's
a
lot
of
testing
going
on
both
on
the
agreement
side
of
things
between
friends
of
the
frame
and
the
in
the
City
of
Burlington,
and
also
on
actually
what's
happening
on
the
site.
So
in
terms
of
where
we
are
now
that's
a
written
agreement-
and
you
know
we're
kind
of
figuring
out
those
exact
mix
of
roles
and
responsibilities
going
forward.
E
But
it's
it's
gone
quite
well
so
far
and
I'm
excited
so
it's
a
mix.
I
mean
started
kind
of
working
more
with
ceto,
especially
as
the
building
was
under
construction.
It
was
in
more
cedo
sport,
but
it's
in
Waterfront
Park
and
it's
going
to
be
operated
large
part
by
the
parts
department
so
and
then
BCA
obviously
is.
I
E
R
Programs,
the
way
to
our
sort
of
noise
program
and
a
lot
of
the
tickets
are
received
by
UVM
College
age
students
who
are
looking
for
Planned
venues
and
they
are
looking
at
places.
But
they
are
students
trying
to
make
money
in
a
lot
of
places,
take
their
proceeds.
So
the
frame
might
be
a
great
place
for
UVM
students
and
working
with
the
community
to
offer
them.
F
F
A
L
The
facilities,
the
actual
garage
facilities
and
our
lots
and
traffic
are
the
folks
that
take
care
of
the
signals,
the
signs
and
the
lines
and
the
crossing
guards,
and
these
are
three
three
completely
independent
groups
and
they
are
all
self-funded,
so
we
don't
actually
operate
on
any
tax
dollars.
So
that's
an
important
thing
for
people
to
understand
is
that
all
of
our
traffic,
like
our
traffic
signals,
the
lights
that
you
would
expect,
would
be
a
reasonable
thing.
L
The
tax
dollars
would
pay
for
those
are
actually
paid
for
by
in-hole
by
the
revenues
from
parking
meters,
so
a
quarter
at
a
time.
So,
anyway,
what
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight?
Real
quickly
is
parking
services,
because
we
have
some
amazing
things
happening
in
this
group.
Over
the
past
two
years,
we've
had
a
major
shift
in
how
we
address
parking
and
we
now
have
a
new
motto
that
we
go
by
and
it's
safety
and
Equity.
L
So
we've
started
looking
at
everything
we
do
from
safety
and
Equity
lens,
which
means
that,
if
you're
getting
a
parking
ticket,
it's
probably
because
there's
an
ordinance
that
says
that
you're
violating
some
sort
of
safety
issue
or
an
equity
issue.
So
that
would
be,
if
you're
parked
in
front
of
a
fire
hydrant,
that's
a
safety
issue.
If
you're
parked
in
the
handicapped,
spot
and
you're,
not
you
don't
have
the
proper
credentials.
That's
an
equity
issue,
so
we're
trying
to
reframe
how
we
approach
ticket
writing
and
we
used
to
write
citations
for
violations.
L
Now
we
write
tickets
for
safety
and
Equity,
so
important,
reframing
right.
So
our
goal
is
to
minimize
tickets
and
minimize
Towing,
and
anybody
who
gets
towed
tomorrow
is
you're
gonna,
not
believe
me,
but
we
are
sincerely
making
lots
of
changes
that
are
strategically
aimed
at
minimizing
tickets
and
minimizing
Towing,
because
we
see
that
as
an
equity
issue,
when
someone's
car
is
removed
from
their,
you
know
we're
taking
someone's
asset
and
they
are
using
that
to
get
to
their
job
or
do
whatever
they're
doing
in
their
life.
And
we
don't
want
to
interrupt
that.
L
L
So
we
moved
staff
into
parking
services
and
then
we
we
aggressively
retrained
staff
on
different
job
duties,
customer
service
specifically,
and
what
this
has
done
is
it's
resulted
in
an
increased
ability
to
provide
coverage
and
well
I'll
talk
about
on
our
next
slide.
When
one
of
any
of
my
coverage
is,
we
have
staff,
we
have
more
staff
in
the
field
over
more
parts
of
the
day
so
that
we
can
respond
more
quickly
to
the
needs
of
the
community.
L
So
some
of
the
things
we've
done.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
build
a
One-Stop
shop
for
parking.
So
if
you
I
have
a
question
about
parking,
you
go
to
DPW
or
you
know:
Burlington
vt.gov
parking
and
there's
website
there
that
will
have
everything
you
need
on
We,
Are,
One,
Stop,
Shop,
you
go
down
to
645,
Pine
Street
go
to
the
window,
you
can
get
any
parking
question.
You
have
answered,
we're
not
quite
there
yet,
but
we're
heading
that
way
very
quickly.
One
of
the
equity
issues
we
did
last
year
was
We
reformed.
L
Scoff
scoff
is
when
you
get
your
car
towed,
because
you
don't
pay
your
tickets,
so
the
threshold
for
scoff
used
to
be
75,
which
meant,
if
you
got
one
ticket
the
next
ticket,
you
got
you're
getting
car
towed,
which
is
pretty
much
a
one
and
done,
which
is
just
not
fair.
So
we
raised
the
threshold
just
275
dollars
and
concurrent
with
that
changing
in
the
threshold
we
launched
the
fines
for
food
prior
program
and
I
think
I
saw
counselor
Paul
on
this
call.
L
L
F
L
L
Fridays
and
Saturdays
through
the
end
of
the
year,
there's
two
hours
free
anywhere
you
park.
If
you
use
Park
Mobile,
you
get
two
hours
free,
that's
in
the
city
parking
lot,
City
parking
garages
in
the
meters
and
even
in
Parks
owned
Lots.
So
we
actually
have
a
relationship
with
Parks
because
they
own
a
number
of
parking
facilities
and
we're
expanding
our
services
to
support
Parks
because,
ironically,
they're
very
good
at
parks,
but
it
they
admit
themselves,
not
so
good
at
parking,
so
we're
helping
them
there.
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We're
working
we've
worked
very
closely
with
BHS
with
you
know
their
challenge
of
moving
all
their
students
into
the
Macy's.
You
know
we
have
a
parking
garage
right
there,
so
we've
worked
with
them
to
get
them
discounted
parking.
We've
worked
with
them
to
create
a
rooftop
garden
on
top
of
the
garage
which
has
lots
of
legal
challenges
around
it.
But
we've
got
through
that.
We're
working
with
car
share
actually
putting
elect
Chargers
in
the
marketplace
garage
to
support
the
car
share.
L
L
We
created
a
contractor
parking
for
Resident.
Only.
This
was
a
big
problem
for
contractors.
They
were
so
mad.
They'd
come
they'd
work
on
somebody's
house
and
they
get
a
ticket.
So
we
created
a
program
for
them
so
that
they
could
actually
buy
a
permit
for
a
month
a
month
a
quarter
a
year,
and
then
they
can
park
anywhere.
They
want
in
Resident.
Only
when
they're
working
on
someone's
house,
we
created
a
whoops
program.
L
L
So
we've
removed
the
transaction
fee
for
online
payments
used
to
be
if
you've
got
a
ticket
and
you
wanted
to
pay
online.
We
charge
I
think
it
was
an
extra
275..
Well,
that's
just
paying
on
top
of
pain.
So
we
took
that
away.
So
you
go
online.
You
just
pay
your
ticket,
so
I've
already
talked
about
the
increase
in
Staffing
and
we
are
really
focused
on
customer
service.
L
We
have
parking
Service
agents,
we
don't
have
parking
enforcement
officers
anymore,
we're
trying
to
reframe
this
whole
concept
of
of
how
people,
how
we
approach
people
and
hopefully
how
people
approach
us,
because
we
are
people
and
we're
we're
trying
to
do
our
job
and
make
the
community
safe
and
enforce
the
the
rules
that
we've
decided
as
a
community
who
we
want
to
live
by,
which
is
you
know,
in
our
case
of
ordinance,
so
anyway,
preview
we're
headed
towards
24
365
service.
So
our
vision
is
as
soon
as
we
can
get
people
hired.
L
You
won't
have
to
call
the
police
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
You
can
call
us
and
we'll
take
care
of
you,
we're
ongoing
upgrades
to
our
digital,
permitting
system
and
web
sales.
We
just
launched
a
whole
new
platform
last
week,
so
there's
more
improvements
coming
there
we're
actually
actively
talking
with
some
members
of
the
Public
Works
commission
about
changing
ordinances
to
minimize
Towing.
There
are
some
fairly
rigid
and
strict
penalties
in
ordinance
and
my
challenges.
L
I
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
anything,
but
what's
in
ordinance,
so
we
have
to
change
the
ordinance,
we're
working,
hopefully
startup
in
January,
February
time
frame,
a
visioning
project
for
the
marketplace
garage
that
garage
is
50
years
old.
It's
actively
falling
apart,
we're
actually
putting
half
a
million
dollars
into
it
right
now
over
the
winter
to
patch
it
up
for
the
next
three
to
five
years
to
allow
us
to
contemplate
the
next.
L
The
next
version
of
what
happens
at
the
marketplace
garage
site,
and
then
we
just
rebranded
the
garage,
that's
behind
the
Hilton
Hotel
Vermont.
We
branded
that
as
the
downtown
garage,
because
nobody
knows
what
it's
called.
It
was
called
the
Lakeview
and
College
Street
Garage
complex,
which
nobody
can
remember
downtown
garage.
That's
it!
K
L
Not
right
now,
right
now
right
now,
you
need
to
call
the
police
calling
dispatch
is
the
best
thing
to
do
right
now.
I
can't
seem
to
find
my
I
stopped
sharing
button.
Oh
there,
it
is
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
our
staffing
up.
We
only
have
about
10
people.
We
need
14.
as
soon
as
we
get
to
14
we're
going
24,
7
365.,
so
the
best
thing
to
do
for
the
foreseeable
Futures
call,
the
police
and
dispatch
will
either
deal
with
themselves
or
they
will
call
us
because
we
coordinate
with
them.
L
So
they
know
if
we're
available
and
we're
available.
So
we
have
five
people
working
during
the
day
and
five
people
working
at
night,
so
working
until
I
think
they're
going
until
11
o'clock
at
night.
So
we
have
a
pretty
solid
coverage.
All
day.
A
year
ago
we
had
three
people
get
five
positions,
four
filled,
one
left,
it's
three
people
and
so
for
all
day
from
eight
in
the
morning
to
11
o'clock
at
night
now
we've
got
five
people
in
a
day
and
five
people
in
the
night.
C
L
We
we
work
really
hard
on
this.
We've
made
a
number
of
upgrades
in
the
garages
we've
put
in
a
we've,
replaced
a
bunch
of
cameras.
There
were
broken
cameras,
we've
replaced
them,
we
put
in
camera
monitors
now.
So
if
you
go
when
you
go
in
the
garage,
if
you
look
at
the
booth,
you'll
see
there's
a
TV
screen
and
you
can
see
it
looks
like
a
security
room
right.
There's
cameras
are
flicking
around,
so
you
can
actually
see
what's
going
on
throughout
the
garage.
We've
reorganized
how
our
maintenance
team
works.
L
L
There's,
there's
a
ton
of
work
going
in
to
make
these
facilities
safer
and
cleaner,
and
we
meet
with
the
hotels,
because
the
hotels
are
a
big
customer
of
ours.
We
meet
with
them
quarterly
around
safety
issues
and
at
our
last
meeting
they
pretty
much
agreed
anecdotally.
That
things
are
much
better
than
they
were
in
the
spring,
so
I
think
we're
we're
making
impact.
But
it's
it's
hard
work.
L
You
pay
with
parkmobile,
which
is
the
app
or
you
can
pay
the
kiosk
and
part
of
the
change
with
the
when
the
what
used
to
be
the
folks
that
work
in
the
garage
when
they
came
over
to
Parking
Services,
we
actually
needed
that
staff
now
because
they
actually
Patrol
the
garage
just
like
they
Patrol
the
streets.
So
the
garage
actually
works
exactly
the
way
it
works
on
the
street.
If
you
park
your
car
on
the
street,
you
sort
of
guess
how
long
you're
going
to
be
there,
and
then
you
put
money
in
the
meter.
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L
A
All
right
any
other
questions
for
Jeff
all
right,
if
not
Jeff,
thanks
so
much
for
hanging
in
there
I
know
we're
in
a
little
bit
late
tonight
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
yeah
thanks.
So
much
all
right
and
that
concludes
our
our
MPA
meeting
for
today.
I
know
some
folks
had
questions
for
the
parallel
Justice
program.
Thank
you
for
staying
later,
I'm
being
available
for
that
all.