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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
Pittsburgh
City
Council's
post
agenda
for
Tuesday
July:
ninth
2019.
My
name
is
Kim
Clark,
Baskin
and
I'm
your
deputy
city
clerk
with
us.
Today
we
have
our
sign
language
interpreter
Dean,
Engel
hawk
the
following
is
a
piece
of
legislation
up
for
roundtable
discussion
with
Pittsburgh
City,
Council
and
invited
guests
bill
number
1775
resolution
authorizing
a
cooperation
agreement
between
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
the
Pittsburgh
Water
and
Sewer
Authority
to
provide
for
the
rights
and
obligations
of
each
party
with
respect
to
the
other
and
for
payments
in
capital
cooperation
between
the
parties.
B
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
this
post
agenda
meeting
of
Pittsburgh
City
Council
for
today,
Tuesday
July,
the
9th
2019.
We
are
assembled
here
at
the
request
of
Councilwoman
gross,
and
we
are
here
to
discuss
the
purpose
of
bill
1775,
and
so,
madam
clerk,
would
you
please
begin
by
reading
the
purpose
of
the
bill
bill.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much.
We
are
I'm
councilman
Krause
I'll
be
chairing
this
afternoon's
post
agenda
meeting.
We
are
joined
by
councilmembers
gross
Councilwoman
Cal
Smith,
Councilwoman,
Harris,
Councilwoman,
Strassburger
and
Councilman
O'connor.
Other
members
may
join
us
as
their
schedules
permit
and
our
invited
guests
this
afternoon
are
Paul
Yeager
our
controller,
the
Honorable,
Michael
Lam
and
grant
get
'ln
and
I
believe
you
have
a
presentation
for
us,
and
so,
however,
it
is
that
you
would
like
to
assemble
your
presentation.
We'll
give
the
floor
to
you.
D
Let's
start
by
talking
about
why
we're
even
talking
about
this
in
1994,
there
was
a
co-op
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
PWSA
that
generated
a
hundred
and
three
million
dollars
for
the
city
which
it
badly
needed
at
the
time
because
it
was
bankrupt.
That
was
the
basic
purpose
of
that
co-op
agreement.
D
D
We
will
also
talk
about
what
costs
you
are
now
going
to
pay
and
we're
gonna
go
through
a
couple
of
things
which
you
have
in
front
of
you.
First
of
all,
you
have
a
copy
of
the
presentation
which
gives
you
a
chance
to
make
notes
on
it
as
we
go
through.
If
you
want
to
there's
not
enough
space,
there's
never
enough
space,
that's
true!
D
In
addition
to
the
presentation
I've,
given
you
a
summary
sheet
which
is
blue,
which
lists
all
of
the
items
that
are
in
the
new
co-op,
the
proposed
co-op
and
I've,
given
you
a
copy
of
what
the
board
members
use
as
what
I
call
the
crib
sheet,
this
is
data
that
board
members
like
to
know
and
like
to
have
on
hand
and
might
be
useful
to
you.
It's
not
related
to
the
coop.
It
is
simply
a
gift.
I
didn't
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
bring
a
candy
bowl
where
I
would
have
brought
that.
D
D
D
We
are
now
under
the
PUC
which,
to
me
has
become
a
major
problem,
not
a
gift.
In
the
beginning,
it
looked
like
there
were
good
things
and
there
are
some
good
things
about
the
PUC,
but
in
fact
we
have
spent
a
vast
amount
of
money
to
be
compliant
with
the
PUC
staff,
has
a
huge
amount
of
work,
forced
on
them
for
PUC
compliance,
and
so
just
the
fact
that
we
are
complying
with
everything.
The
PUC
wants
means
that
we
have
to
have
a
new
co-op
in
place
or
the
city
doesn't
get
any
money.
D
E
D
Okay,
thank
you.
I
can't
see
behind
me,
Teresa
yeah,
not
that
good.
Yet
the
current
co-op
does
not
provide
for
itemized
business
like
financial
transactions
between
the
parties.
This
results
in
exchanges
of
payments
and
services
that
cannot
be
appropriately
documented
and
the
PUC
is
going
to
demand
documentation.
So
we
have
to
be
able
to
document
the
invoice
that
it
goes
between
the
two.
Do
you
want
to
change
to
the
next
slide.
D
Thank
you
for
doing
that
and
for
introducing
it
all
financial
AIA
transactions
will
be
itemized
documented
and
meet
auditing
standards.
An
itemized
lump
sum
payments
from
PWSA
the
city
will
stop.
That's
the
7
point.
1
million
with
no
invoice
PWSA
will
contribute
to
the
city
pension
fund
to
pay
for
other
services
provided
and
pay
for
other
services
provided
which
will
be
itemized
either
in
the
invoice
or
in
a
separate
sidebar.
For
this
agreement
and
right
now
we
pay
nothing
for
pension
pension
costs.
You
four
point:
nine
million
dollars
for
our
employees.
You
pay
nothing.
D
D
Next,
one
city
will
have
to
pay
for
water
sewer
and
fire
hydrant
usage
through
a
five-year
phase-in
and
the
cost
of
installing
meters
will
be
split.
The
city
will
be
treated
like
a
commercial
customer
and
for
most
commercial
customers
the
cost
of
meter
is
purely
on
them,
and
so
we
are
splitting
that
cost,
including
the
construction
of
vaults,
where
necessary.
Right
now,
many
city
facilities
have
no
meter.
We
have
no
idea
how
much
water
they
use.
D
The
PWSA
will
assume
control
of
the
PA
WC
subsidy
agreement,
which
is
currently
in
the
hands
of
the
city
and
is
an
is
operates
under
a
city
ordinance
and
a
contract
with
PA
WC.
And
if
you
give
that
to
us,
you
will
find
that
we
will
take
the
necessary
actions
related
to
that
agreement,
and
at
this
point
there
is
no
subsidy,
as
defined
in
the
agreement,
is
less
than
a
dollar
I,
think
it's
42
cents
for
the
average
customer.
D
So
the
agreement
has
essentially
been
dissolved,
but
we
would
have
to
take
the
action
of
informing
PA
WC
of
that.
So
that
is
why
we
would
ask
that
you
would
turn
over
that
agreement
to
us.
Gets
it
off
off
your
table.
Pete
upset
PWSA
will
have
the
option
to
cancel
the
subsidy
under
certain
conditions,
if
not
eliminated,
the
city
will
be
obligated
to
pay.
D
So
if
you
don't
give
that
to
us
you're
on
the
hook
for
those
subsidy
payments
after
a
year,
which
is
what
the
ordinance
says,
so
we
would
like
to
take
that
away
from
you
and
officially
give
it
to
us.
We
have
been
paying
the
subsidy,
but
we
have
not
been
paying
it
under
an
agreement
and
we
haven't
been
paying
it
and
in
some
people's
view
legally.
D
The
city
bears
the
entire
cost
of
doing
that
street
sweeping
we
are
paying
and
acting
as
the
responsible
party
on
that
EPA
consent
decree,
and
so
we
would
like
to
take
over
our
share
that
we
pay
for
50%
of
the
sweeping
costs
are
related
to
compliance
with
the
EPA
agreement,
and
so,
while
we
are
responsible
for
any
fines
under
it,
we'd
also
like
to
be
subsidizing.
What
we
are
responsible
for
PWSA
will
assume
responsibility
for
water
service
lines
and
sewer
laterals
and
parks.
D
Larger
than
50
acres
city
will
retain
responsibility
for
water
service
lines
and
sewer
laterals
on
all
other
city
properties.
This
has
been
a
bone
of
contention
which
actually
has
led
to
screaming
and
shouting
meetings
which
I
have
attended
and
I'm
kind
of
appalled
by
that
over
what
who
owns
what
and
who
is
responsible
for
doing
what?
So
this
is
the
agreement
that
we
came
to.
There
are
11
parks
currently
that
are
greater
than
50
acres.
D
There
will
be
another
one
once
the
acquisition
of
Hayes
Park
is
complete
and
those
will
be
the
parks
that
PWSA
will
be
responsible
for
and
the
other
parts
are
already
enumerated,
they're,
not
in
the
document
that
I'd
be
happy
to
add
them
as
an
addendum.
If
you
would
like
that,
that
might
be
something
that
would
be
easy
to
deal
with.
The
city
is
exempted
from
tapping
fees
for
five
years,
because
tap-in
fees
for
city
spray
parks
and
other
institutions
and
new
construction
would
be
very
expensive.
D
For
instance,
one
tap
in
fee
for
a
spray
park
at
Paulsen
was
a
hundred
and
thirty-eight
thousand
dollars,
which
was
more
than
the
cost
of
constructing
the
park,
so
I
want
them
exempted
aft
up
for
the
first
five
years.
After
that,
we
can
talk
to
you
again
grants
easements
to
PWSA
without
going
to
council.
Everybody
seems
to
want
this
to
come
back
to
Council,
because
you
have
the
legal
responsibility
for
such
easements.
That's
fine
by
me.
D
I
only
put
this
in
so
that
you
would
not
clutter
your
agenda
with
all
sorts
of
easements
that
we
are
asking
for.
So
that's
that's
fine.
We
can
change
that
newly
discovered
lines
will
become
part
of
the
PWSA
system.
Our
map
is
not
adequate.
We
don't
know
where
every
line
is,
and
so,
as
we
discover
new
lines,
we
will
just
add
them
to
the
inventory
of
lines
that
exist.
Any
property
abandoned
by
the
PWSA
before
september
2025
will
revert
to
city
ownership.
D
This
means
that
if
we
move
out
of
a
place
like
the
Strip
District,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
our
cars
parked
and
use
it
as
a
parking
facility
before
that
time,
that
land
goes
back
to
the
city,
we
don't
intend
to
keep
it
under
a
lease
agreement
and
you
can
do
with
it.
What
you
please
PWSA
assumes
responsibility
for
sawmill
run
projects.
D
You
may
have
thought
we
did
this
all
along
and
in
fact
we
do,
but
under
the
old
co-op
agreement
we
were
forbidden
to
do
it,
and
so
we
shouldn't
have
been
doing
any
of
it
for
the
life
of
the
PWSA,
as
we
know
it,
and
all
of
those
things
in
sawmill
run
our
mutual
municipality
agreements,
sometimes
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
We
would
be
responsible
for
doing
all
of
that.
Just
like
we
actually
are
now,
but
we
would
legally
get
the
responsibility
for
it.
D
Ptp
a
public
utility
code
prevails
in
the
case
of
conflicts.
Yes,
it
does,
unfortunately,
that's
the
way.
It
is
that's
the
state
law
nothing.
We
can
do
about
that,
although
we
would
be
happy
to
challenge
with
you
if
there
were
items
that
we
felt
we
could
mutually
win
on
and
the
90
day
termination
provision
by
either
party
continues,
as
it
did
in
the
old
agreement.
That's
how
we
got
to
this
stage.
Those
are
the
major
items
that
are
contained
in
the
agreement.
D
G
B
I
You
know
12
years
down
the
road
from
there
and
we're
still
dealing
with
the
problems
of
that
deal,
and
some
of
it
has
been
wound
down
and
and
the
authority's
doing
a
pretty
good
job
now
of
correcting
the
rest
of
it.
But
let
me
just
say
this
that
Mike,
my
criticism
of
this
organization
has
always
come
back
to
one
simple
thought,
and
it
was
the
inconsistency
of
leadership.
I
The
fact
that,
as
we
changed
management
over
the
last
ten
years,
five
times,
not
that
six,
not
that
not
that
any
of
those
decisions
were
bad
decisions,
but
every
time
you
bring
in
someone
new,
they
have
a
different
way
of
thinking
and
rather
than
having
us
committed
to
a
long-term
plan
that
a
new
executive
director
could
follow.
We
were
always
developing
new
long-term
plans
or
new
ways
of
getting
to
the
long-term
plan.
That's
different
now
and
that's
a
really
good
thing.
I
We
we
now
have
planned
our
following
a
long
term
plan
I,
commend
the
staff
and
the
board
down
there
for
that,
and
so
now,
as
we
move
forward,
it's
a
much
more
positive
situation.
You
see
it
in
the
improvements
just
in
the
infrastructure,
improvements
that
are
going
on.
You
even
see
it
in
to
one
of
the
things
that
we
complain.
A
lot
about
is
the
customer
service
down
there.
It
has
improved,
we
tested
it.
As
you
know,
in
our
last
audit.
C
I
And
we
and
we're
seeing
improvement
already
from
that,
so
so
I'm
encouraged
by
what's
happened
to
this
point.
I'm
encouraged
by
what
I
see
today.
I
have
questions
like
I'm
sure
all
of
you
do,
but
I'm
encouraged
that
we're
making
these
steps
I
agree
with
Paul
that
you
know
this
co-op
agreement
started
in
94
because
we
basically
needed
to
bail
out
the
city.
That's
that's
what
it
was.
This
was
not
some
straight.
You
know
bonafide
purchase
or
negotiation.
I
We
are
in
a
much
stronger
position
than
we
were
and
it's
time
to
start
correcting
these
things
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
subsidy,
because,
while
the
subsidy
doesn't
mean
anything
today
because
we've
raised
our
rates
to
be
pretty
much
consistent
with
Pennsylvania
American,
that's
not
going
to
happen
for
long
Pennsylvania,
Americans
already
put
in
for
rate
increases
again.
So
we're
gonna
have
to
revisit
that.
Subsidy
and
and
the
subsidy
is
an
issue
of
fairness
and.
G
I
I
Okay
and
and
it's
and
it's
mainly
because
of
where
they
draw
their
water
from
they
draw
their
water
from
the
Mon
PW
say,
draws
their
monitor
for
water
from
the
Allegheny
it's
cleaner,
and
so
people
who
live
in
areas
serviced
by
Pennsylvania,
American,
our
first
paying
or
or
will
be
when
the
rates
go
up
again
and
that
for
lower
quality
water.
So,
to
me
the
discussion
shouldn't
just
be
about
the
subsidy
and
the
equity.
B
H
You
thank
you
all
for
being
here
to
answer
these
questions.
This
is
really
information
gathering
for
the
public
and
for
councilmembers,
so
it's
I
think
important
for
us
to
take
some
time
so
that
we
can
all
be
educated
on
the
ton
of
technicalities
here.
So
chairman
leg
earlier,
your
presentation
was
definitely
appreciated.
Council
members
do
have
copies
of
the
agreement
and
a
blue
sheet
controller
lamb.
H
H
H
You
always
want
the
books
to
be
really
good,
and
this
is
I
think
an
opportunity
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that,
it
may
be
that
we
do
the
best
that
we
can
today
and
after
we
keep
track
for
a
number
of
years.
We
realized
you
know
what
there
wasn't
quite
fair
on
this
side
or
that
side,
but
having
said
that,
both
sides
only
have
one
source
of
funds,
and
that
is
the
citizen
of
the
of
Pittsburgh.
H
So
when
asked
what
about
the
water
for
the
swimming
pools
said
the
water
will
be
in
the
swimming
pools.
It
just
will
be.
Are
you
paying
for
it
on
your
water
bill
or
on
the
city?
Taxes
right?
One
of
those
two
is
going
to
make
sure
that
the
waters
in
the
swimming
pool.
So
it's
not
that
things
aren't
going
to
get
done.
It's
just
that
they're
going
to
be
way
better
accounted
for.
H
Having
said
that,
I
do
have
a
few
of
the
of
clarifications,
I
think
in
questions
and
follow
up
on
things,
especially
around
the
pension
items
that
you
mentioned
mr.
legarre.
So
maybe
you
could
just
speak
a
little
but
more
to
how
right
now
the
city
I
think
you
said
is
paying
4.9
million
dollars
for
PwC
employees,
pension
funds,
that's.
H
And
just
as
a
reminder
to
the
listener
at
home
that
it
was
a
the
city's
water
department,
it
was
actually
a
city
department.
Just
like
parks
is
still
a
department
and
police
is
still
a
department,
and
so
there
was
a
department
of
water
and
so
those
couple
of
hundred
employees
I'm,
assuming
at
the
time
we
have
about
300
employees.
In-House
now
went
one
day
from
being
city
of
Pittsburgh
employees
to
being
employees
of
this
newly
created
Water
and
Sewer
Authority
sometime
in
1995.
H
D
When
you
gave
up
the
50%
offset
for
Social
Security,
they
all
got
the
benefit
of
that
and
they
kept
the
benefit
of
that
even
when
it
was
put
back
on
by
ak47.
So
if
the
people
working
at
the
authority
have
no
offset
where,
as
your
municipal
employees
do,
but
we
never
paid
you
a
cent
for
any
pension
obligation
and
the
city
has
paid
the
MMO
for
pension,
it
has
paid
additional
money
and
it
has
paid
additional
money
on
top
of
that
into
the
city
pension
plan,
to
keep
it
above
50%.
D
Well,
we
know
you.
We
owe
you
at
least
4.9
million,
and
if
it's
more
than
that,
it
is
whatever
it
is.
We
went
to
the
actuaries
and
we
had
them
tell
us
how
much
our
employees
cost
your
plan.
They
told
us
and
that's
the
number
they
gave
us.
If
it's
more
than
that,
we
pay
you
whatever
the
actuaries
tell
us.
It
is.
I
Would
just
add
to
that
for
that
entire
period
of
time,
because
our
act,
205
funding,
is
based
on
the
number
of
units
within
your
organization.
Those
units
weren't
counted
in
the
act,
205
money
that
we
ever
missed.
So
we
should
have
been
getting
more
money
from
the
state
as
well
looked
over
that
period
of
time,
but
that
what
those
those
units
weren't
we're
disallowed.
Okay,.
H
D
H
Agreement
so
there's
been
I
think
a
good-faith
effort
on
both
sides.
It
looks
to
me
to
kind
of
weigh
like
okay,
that's
true.
You
know
the
city
has
been
paying
all
of
these
pension
contributions
that
it
wasn't
really
documented
that
they
had
to.
On
the
other
hand,
PwC
has
been
writing
a
seven
million
dollar
check.
First,
with
no
receipt
with
no
reason,
you
know
with
nothing
to
account.
H
So,
in
all
cases
that
we
have
cooperation
agreements,
it's
literally
a
daily
operating
manual
on
a
daily
basis
how
the
city
is
to
operate
by,
who
does
what
and
not
just
who
is
getting
paid
for
what
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
that
out
there.
Having
said
that,
back
to
the
pension
topic,
which
authorities
pay
payroll
tax
to
the
city,
councilman,
our
chairman
liquor.
D
H
Sorry,
mr.
Gatling
do
you
know
happen
to
know
offhand
at
the
URA
or
controller.
Do
you
know
if
the
ura
pays
payroll
tax
so
we're
assuming
here
that
no
authorities
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
all
of
which
have
employees
each
and
every
city
authority,
has
employees,
and
we
believe
that
none
of
them
pay
payroll
tax
to
the
city
on.
D
D
H
D
A
C
G
H
H
H
D
Is
the
public
utility
real
estate
tax
I
think
that's
what
it
is
and
it
is
a
way
for
public
utilities
to
pay
their
real
estate
attacks
to
the
state
and
the
state
redistributes
it.
So
every
municipality
gets
some.
This
was
done
because
not
every
municipality
has
a
power
plant
or
a
gas
generation
plant
and
because
some
of
them
were
left
out
and
some
of
them
would
become
millionaires
if
they
had
a
nuclear
plant
and
they
were
tiny,
then
the
state
redistributes
that
income.
What.
H
E
H
H
G
H
Guess
substations
or
something
like
that
right
right,
so,
like
Duquesne
Light,
has
that
substation
in
your
neighborhood.
It's
actually
private
property,
because
they're
private
corporation
right,
but
there
are
utilities
so
they're,
paying
the
property
tax
estate.
Okay,
I
think
I've
followed
that,
but
we're
very
we're
all
very
clear
that
authorities
do
not
pay
either
one
of
those
taxes
all.
G
H
Right
so
I'm
gonna
probably
have
a
lot
more
questions,
not
today
about
that
issue
and
I
understand
again,
the
spirit
of
the
of
the
negotiations
was
to
kind
of
say,
like
well,
there's
a
informal
little
bit
sloppy
balance
between
these
payments
now
and
to
try
to
get
back
to
that
balance.
Maybe
there
was
some
like
well
we'll.
Add
this
in
here.
We'll
add
this
one
in
there,
but
there
may
be
lines
that
should
be
respected,
for
you.
H
H
You
don't
get
to
go
onto
your
neighbor's
yard
and
dig
under
it.
You
can't
use
your
neighbor's
driveway
unless
they
give
you
an
easement
right.
You
can't
a
cut-through
or
something
like
that,
and
so
people,
that's
generally
what
easements
are
intended
for
or
frequently
used
for,
and
so
similarly
in
having
some
kind
of
access
to
the
people's
property,
you
get
permission
from
the
people,
and
so
that's
why
I
give
pause
to
this
notion.
There
was
a
clause
in
here
that
says
like
no.
H
D
Me
explain
how
that
would
work.
First
of
all,
that
would
only
be
for
easements
that
PWSA
seeks.
Most
of
our
work
is
done
by
contractors
and
they
already
get
those
easements,
so
they
get
the
easements,
they
pay
the
fees
associated
with
it.
It
wouldn't
be
as
many
as
we
think,
but
it
was
simply
an
attempt
to
keep
paperwork
to
a
minimum.
If
you
want
to
issue
easements,
as
is
your
legal
authority,
that's
fine
by
us.
H
D
H
Will
be
only
one
place
that
you
should
go
to
to?
Let
them
know
about
the
garbage
and
the
debris
that's
piled
up.
We
were
just
talking
about
one
minutes
ago
today,
so
I'm,
fully
supportive,
there
and
I
think
it's
right
and
just
and
good
that
all
city
facilities
should
be
metered
and
that
the
people
should
know,
and
it
will
make
us
all
more
conscientious
about
water
usage
as
I
keep
pointing
out
also
to
the
media.
H
I,
don't
see
any
low-flow
toilets
in
the
women's
bathroom
over
here
on
at
City
Council,
and
this
building
has
not
metered.
We
have
apps.
We
can't
do
better
unless
we
know
how
much
water
we
used
yesterday,
there's
no
way
there's
no
way
of
knowing
that
we're
doing
better
today,
so
I'm
fully
supportive
there.
Thank
you
and
I'll
see
the
floor.
D
H
J
So
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
we
have
PwC
has
come
a
long
way
since
I
remember
I
heard
the
controller
say
it
was
2007
that
he
had
some
questions,
but
for
me,
I
wasn't
elected
until
2009,
and
it
was
shortly
after
that
someone
from
councilman
cross
his
district
I
call
her
Erin
Brockovich
of
Pittsburgh
came
to
me
and
started
complaining
about
PwC
meters,
PwC
billing
Peter
B's,
which
later
led
to
the
PwC.
The
post
agenda
with
PwC
lead,
came
out
and
so
I
feel
like
every
time.
J
I
turn
around
there's
been
an
issue
with
PWSA
and
I've.
Had
a
lot
of
concerns,
I
didn't
vote
for
any
of
the
current
board
members
I'm.
Looking
at
the
board
now
sitting
the
audience
looking
so
happy
to
be
here,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
they
are
amazing
group
of
people
that
you
have
on
there.
So
I
will
say
that
some
of
the
people
I
respected
the
most
over
the
city
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
Even
you,
director,
labor.
D
J
You
I
said
see
seriously,
but
I
really
think
that
there's
a
lot
going
on
and
a
lot
of
change
and
I
do
appreciate
it.
But
there
were
some
comments.
You
know
with
the
PwC
and
the
PA
American
and
I
just
want
to
say
for
us
one
of
the
reasons
we
like
PA
American
is:
maybe
you
can't
really
tell
so
much
the
difference
in
the
water,
but
it
is
the
customer
service
that
you
receive
from
PA
American.
In
the
ten
years
I've
been
in
office,
I've
had
three
complaints
of
PA,
American
and
I.
J
Can't
tell
you
the
amount
of
calls
I've
had
for
PWSA.
They
have
been
endless.
So
if
you
ask
the
residents
of
southwest
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
who
they'd
rather
have
it
would
be
PA
American
hands
down
because
they
like
the
customer
service
that
they
that
they
receive
and
if
they're
going
to
pay
the
same
for
the
service
or
for
the
water
anyway,
around
the
same
the
office.
J
It
doesn't
really
matter
that
much
because
it's
going
to
it's
good,
it
will
make
up
the
difference
in
that
with
the
aggravation
you
have
to
put
up
with,
and
so
for
me
part
of
that
aggravation
has
been
the
six
year
process
that
we've
had
at
banks
ville
in
banks
ville,
which
we
have
now
won
in
banks
for
on
banks,
Ville
Road.
So
that's
another
area
in
banks.
Well
I.
You
know,
I
know
that
this.
J
This
is
about
the
agreement
and
not
necessarily
about
stormwater
management,
but
it
speaks
to
the
leadership,
a
PWSA
and
the
way
that
issues
are
handled
and
when
you
talk
about
consistency,
I
don't
want
consistency
in
what
we've
received
this
past
week.
I
don't
want
consistency.
What
this
residents
of
banks
will
have
received
for
the
past
six
years.
They
are
frustrated
on
red
oak
and
Hasen,
and
the
flooding
that
has
occurred
there
and
I
was
one
of
those
people
that
fought
for
a
green
infrastructure
project.
J
I
took
it
to
the
al-qassam
board
that
we
should
have
more
green
infrastructure
project.
I
fought
for
this
area
to
have
green
infrastructure,
and
sometimes
you
have
to
admit
when
it's
not
working
and
we're
in
great
infrastructure
makes
more
sense.
The
residents
a
red
oak
and
Hasen
have
had
it.
They
have
been
flooded,
they
are
at
their
wit's
end
every
time
it
rains
even
a
small
amount
of
rain,
and
we
have
done
a
lot
of
work.
J
Pwsa
has
done
a
lot
of
work
up
there,
but
none
of
which
has
led
to
a
remedy
for
these
residents.
I
mean,
as
recently
as
this
week
being
flooded
with
sewage
in
their
raw
sewage
in
their
Bay,
in
some
of
their
basements
in
the
most
beautiful
homes,
including
the
US,
Attorney,
General
and
I'm.
Sorry,
an
employee
of
his
office
that
had
his
car
there
one
day
when
it
was
flooded,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
people
watching
what's
happening
on
red
oak
and
Hasen,
and
not
appreciating
it.
J
There's
a
lot
of
businesses
on
banks,
Ville
Road,
who
are
saying
that
we
need
to
look
at
the
motel,
6
and
the
pipes
underground.
Then
they
were
doing
construction
there
and
they
were
doing
construction
without
without
permits
and
they're.
Saying
that
a
pipe
may
be
broken
there,
there's
also
the
work
that
was
done.
The
green
infrastructure
project
that
further
down
on
banks,
Bell
Road,
which
was
a
PWSA
project
and
now
banks
will
Road,
has
been-
has
experienced
a
tremendous
amount
of
flooding.
So
somebody
has
got
to
look
beyond
just
the
green
infrastructure
project
and
see.
J
Are
there
broken
pipes?
Is
there
something
that
has
gone
wrong
and
listen
to
what
the
residents
are
saying,
don't
come
in
and
give
them
some
condescending
attitude.
Some
condescending
tone,
it's
a
bunch
of
excuses,
or
you
know
we
can
help
you
here,
but
we
may
not
be
able
to
help
you
down
the
road
or
we
can't
stop
flooding
in.
Definitely
they
need
answers
and
they
need
a
response
and
they
needed
they
needed
it
five
years
ago,
but
they
definitely
need
it
now.
J
Had
it
not
been
for
him
over
this
weekend,
I
don't
and
Councilman
gross
who
I
had
to
call
to
get
help
for
the
residents
of
banks
Ville
to
get
raw
sewage
cleaned
out
of
their
homes
over
the
weekend.
I,
don't
know
what
we
would
have
done
because
nobody
was
coming.
You
have
two
people
to
clean
up
raw
sewage
or
to
clean
up
after
a
storm
and
the
entire
city
of
Pittsburgh
too.
So
there
should
be
contractors
that,
like
we
do
have
when
an
emergency
on
call.
J
So
god
forbid,
you
need
somebody
there
there,
but
residents
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about
how
who's
coming,
especially
giving
that
this
has
been
six
years.
We
should
know
what
to
expect
in
banks
ville.
We
should
have
a
plan
in
place
already
to
prevent
this
or
to
respond
immediately
afterwards.
So
when
you
talk
about
leadership,
I
want
to
know
what
you're
going
to
do
when
it
comes
to
storm
water
management.
But
overall,
when
residents
have
concerns,
I
think
you
need
to
have
someone
who
can
communicate
better
to
residents
and
one
of
the
compressors
were
told.
J
J
But
I'm
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
still
and
we
talk
about
the
subsidy.
You
know
I
do
think
there
may
even
out
in
the
end,
but
there's
definitely
the
residents
definitely
want
customer
service.
They.
That
is
the
one
key
and
I
want
to
know
what
the
can
anybody
talk
to
that
and
what
your
plans
are
for
that
area
and
what
you'll
do
to
address
that,
because
there
has
been
no
there's
just
not
a
clear,
consistent
answer:
I
mean
a
response
from
PwC.
J
You
can't
say
that
okay,
so,
and
so
it's
gonna
call-
and
this
is
what
we're
gonna
have
done,
and
you
know
they
know
it's
gonna
flood,
so
they're
gonna
come
out
and
put
the
sandbag
I
mean
I.
Had
this
to
remind
you
to
put
sandbags
out
for
these
people.
I
said
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna
storm.
They
get
flooded,
please
put
sandbags
out
and
then,
when
they'd
ask
for
seeing
bags
just
like
they
were
acting
for
gold,
it,
like
you,
don't
want
to
give
it
to
them.
I
mean
it
was.
It
is
it's
inexcusable.
J
It's
inhumane
and
honest-to-goodness
I
mean
it
sounds
criminal
to
me
the
way
they've
been
treated.
It
really
does
matter
of
fact.
They
called
the
DEP
and
the
Attorney
General
on
this
whole
issue
and
I
know
that
the
Attorney
General
is
already
obviously
involved,
but
do
I
want
to
know
how
this
is
how
you're
gonna
handle,
not
just
in
this
area,
in
this
case
and
but
in
other
areas
as
well,
and
could
somebody
talk
to
any
part
of
this
bob.
D
I
would
start
by
saying
that
I
think
we
have
been
recalcitrant
in
those
areas
and
if
I
lived
there
I
would
be
at
your
podium
every
week
screaming
and
yelling
about
water.
Coming
into
my
garage
or
my
basement
I
understand
that
problem.
Absolutely
that's
not
acceptable,
but
I
would
also
remind
you
that
part
of
that
problem
is
that
the
street
needs
to
be
lowered
and
come
into
compliance.
So.
J
We're
doing
that,
so
let
me
say
that
part
domi
is
doing
that
part.
Domi
has
been
yeah,
so
they
started
working
on
it.
I
think
you
need
to
look
at
the
curb
I
mean
just
if
you
look
at
their
their
concerns
and
questions
and
I
think
I'm
gonna
start
having
them
copy
the
board
member,
so
that
you
are
more
aware.
I
tried
to
not
drag
everybody
into
the
mill
berthing,
but
I've
been
talking
to
Councilman
gross,
but
I
think
that
overall
people
need
to
look
at
that
the
whole
response
and
what
the
residents
are
saying.
J
These
are
not
stupid.
People
I
mean
they're
some
of
the
most
brightest
people,
I
mean,
if
you
know
Timmy,
not
her
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
Bernadette
use
it
teaches
at
pioneer
school
and
is
well
respected
in
that
community
and
in
the
disability
community,
and
so
I'll
just
say
that
they're
people
that
know
a
lot
and
that
they
have
they're
documenting
everything,
they're
looking
up
things
they're
doing
their
research
they're
just
really
frustrated
about
the
response,
and
so
am
I
otherwise.
J
I
won't
bring
it
up
during
this
meeting,
but
I
have
been
talking
about
this
and
been
asking
for
help
and
been
making
phone
calls
talk
to
your
leadership.
I've
talked
to
different
folks
and
I
want
to
say
some
of
the
people
you
have
responded
or
some
of
the
nicest
people
in
the
world
I
mean
there's
really
nice,
but
it's
not
their
responsibility.
J
That
okay,
when
you
have
something
when
somebody
doesn't
know
whether
they'll
be
able
to
stay
in
their
home,
they
have
rolled
sewage
and
something
somebody
can't
say:
authorize
a
hotel
stay
or
you
don't
have
a
you
know.
Additional
contractors
be
contractors
on
standby
for
emergencies,
and
somebody
can't
authorize
that
they're
say:
okay,
yes,
somebody's
coming
in
hang
tight,
we'll
be
there.
J
We
know
this
is
a
problem,
we're
already
ready
when
you
don't
have
those
people
that
can
it's
unfair
to
even
put
those
people
responding
in
the
position
they're
in
to
respond
when
you
didn't
give
them
any
authority
to
do
anything,
and
so
I
I
mean
I,
think
the
residents
get
frustrated
with
them,
but
it's
not
even
their
fault.
I
mean
they
really
are
trying
their
best
to
respond
to
people
you've,
given
them
nothing
to
help
people
with,
as.
D
D
J
Do
you
realize
how
many
times
they've
met
over
the
past
six
years?
It's
been
many
times
many
broken
promises.
Many
failed
attempts
to
do
something,
and
yet
I
mean
these
people
they're
ready
to
sell
their
homes
I'm
up
and
move
because
it
to
the
PWA,
which
they
still
have
a
way
to
response
for
those
things,
the
emails
that
they
sent
and
haven't
received
one,
even
though
we
said
to
send
them
to
him
and
they're.
Just
frustrated
and
I
know
you're
all
frustrated
with
their
tweeting
and
posting,
and
but
that's
all,
that's
the
resort.
G
J
All
they
have
left,
that's
the
only
way
thing
they
have
left
and
so
I'm
just
I'm
frustrated
for
those
residents
and-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
our
residents
and
just
you
know
and
I
I
said
I've
been
finding
this
issue
for
a
long
time
with
PwC
and
I
actually
get
really
offended.
When
I
hear
people
using
politics,
you
know
PR
water
for
politics
and
PwC
I
get
really
offended
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
you
know
came
out
and
started
attacking
PW
say
they
had
nothing
to
do
with
it.
J
When
we
tried
telling
people
what
was
going
on
there,
I
have
emails
from
elected
officials
that
didn't
even
care.
They
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
their
didn't
even
respond
to
stuff.
When
I
was
saying,
we
need
help
with
PwC.
Not
you
know,
then
all
of
a
sudden
became
an
issue
that
the
public
cared
about
and
everybody
all
of
a
sudden
was
jumping
on
the
bandwagon
to
fight
the
fight,
and
you
know,
use
use
an
exploit.
J
You
know
a
bad
situation,
so
it
bothered
me
I
didn't
want
so
I
was
trying
to
very
to
not
be
that
person
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
getting
real
results
so
on
to
other
subjects,
I
want
to
know
the
tap
ins
and
and
the
fees
for
the
zoo
and
other
places
that
you
may
get
you
know
eventually
want
to
charge.
Would
you
there
be
a
sliding
scale
for
any
those
things,
because
we
have
small
businesses
paying
the
same
prices?
As
you
know,
larger
businesses,
and
things
like
that.
D
Now
the
PWB
PUC
has
two
classes
of
charges,
one
is
residential
and
one
is
commercial.
We
would
be
happy
to
go
to
the
PUC
to
get
other
classes
created.
My
favorite,
the
one
I
would
like
to
create
as
a
government
class,
because
people
that
are
paying
our
rates
are
also
paying
taxes,
they're
the
same
people,
and
so
if
we
could
get
a
government
rate
for
utilities,
we
would
be
in
a
much
better
shape
financially
than
we
are
now
and
the
taxpayers
are
being
a
better
shape.
D
J
If
there's
some
way,
we
can
help
with
that
I'd
like
to
help
with
that
and
I
I'm
gonna
end
it
with
them.
You
know
what
the
very
right
side
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
help
with
any
of
that,
and
they
other
thing
is.
The
green
infrastructure
is
as
much
as
I
am
supportive
of
green
infrastructure.
I
want
us
to
know
and
realize.
Sometimes
when
gray
infrastructure
is
also
makes
sense,
and
you
have
to
either
combine
the
two
or
we're
forego
the
green
infrastructure
for
the
gray
infrastructure,
for
what
works
and
I'll
end.
J
It
with
I
really
want
something
done
with
the
communications
and
making
sure
that
you're
adding
more
money
to
that
department
and
in
doing
more
to
be
responsive
to
the
people,
and
we
have
some
of
the
most
amazing
people
in
that
department.
I
want
to
say
that
some
really
good
people,
but
give
them
the
tools
to
do
what
they
need
to
do.
That's
it
for
me
right
for
the
moment.
Thank.
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Elka
CNN,
yes,
okay,
so
there
are
so
many
municipalities
that
are
coming
in
through
the
city
that,
if
that's
what
you
would
like
us
to
do,
then
I
think
you
need
to
go
to
the
state
and
federal
government
and
tell
them
that
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
should
have
a
user
fee
on
our
pipes
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
It
is
not
fair.
We
are
paying
user
fees
to
dump
our
garbage,
not
just
to
the
Mina's
County
but
to
the
school
districts
outside
the
city.
L
So
why
shouldn't
these
municipalities,
which
are
using
our
storage,
have
to
pay
a
user
fee
for
the
pipes,
because
that's
wear
and
tear
that's
more
wear
and
tear
on
all
the
pipes.
I
mean
just
go
out
and
look
at
those
huge
one
side,
Washington,
Boulevard
and
I'm
sure
they're
I
know
there's
some
behind
Heinz
and
other
places
in
the
city,
but
that
needs
to
be
done.
I
think,
first,
as
far
as
you
want
us
to
pay
for
the
water
I
want
you
to
pay
to
dig
up
our
street.
L
L
L
L
L
G
C
L
Later
it's
gonna
have
to
come
off,
but
those
are
some
things
that
I
think
have
to
be
looked
at.
I
didn't
have
time
to
think
about
it.
When
I,
when
I
first
talked
to
Jim,
I
trust,
you
and
Jim
very
well,
I
think
you're
great
nice
addition
compared
to
what
we
had
and
what
was
happening
that
all
happened.
Political.
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D
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F
D
L
F
L
Because
when
we
had
the
cave-in-
and
this
is
one
example-
a
looky-loos
list
and
nichkhun-
the
fire
hydrant
was
not
working
at
list.
Fire
hydrant
was
not
working
at
snica,
they
came
up
on
Butte
Annie
and
a
fire
hydrant
wasn't
working
up
there.
The
next
fire
hydrants
were
over
the
hill.
F
L
L
L
H
E
L
There's
a
number
on
them:
council,
understood,
okay
and
I.
Think
our
controller
should
be
part
of
it
too,
and
then
you
can
still
invite
us,
but
those
are
just
some
of
what
I
see
and
algis
in
is
a
real
big
one
and
I
know
you're
writing
down,
but
I
think
we
really
have
to
get
some
of
this
straightened
out
before
you
know.
We
can
say:
okay,
see
it's
not
getting.
7.1
million.
C
L
People
scare
Sarah
had
a
quotable
gasser
I
had
Duke
a
light.
I
had
PWSA
there
when
we
were
gonna
charge
for
opening
and
closing
the
streets,
so
I
mean
we
have
to
look
and
what
will
hurt
the
city,
because
this
is
once
once
we
get
this
all
in
gear
here
once
it's
done,
it's
tough
for
a
while.
Well,
it
says
you
know
at
the
end,
there
there's
a
90
day,
written
notice,
but
still
I,
I
really
think.
J
J
L
M
You
for
being
here
today,
I
really
appreciate
the
the
overview
and
the
recap
of
what
this
all
includes,
and
you
know
I've
read
through
the
agreement,
and
this
is
just
a
helpful
reminder
of
the
key
points
just
for
those
who
were
here
today
and
those
watching
at
home.
I
want
to
ask
about
this
in
context
in
a
larger
context.
So
this
is
a
co-op
agreement,
but
it
is
not
a
lot
of
other
things.
C
D
An
MoU
between
domi
and
us
at
the
PWSA
that
might
be
managed
differently,
that
is
up
to
the
mayor's
office
and
you
as
to
how
that's
to
be
managed,
but
we
have
certain
basic
documents
that
govern
the
institution.
When
is
the
capital
lease?
The
other
is
the
Articles
of
Incorporation
and
those
are
the
basic
documents
that
govern
the
organization.
None
of
the
other
two
documents
that
I
mentioned
I,
don't
expect
to
be
becoming
before
this
organization.
I.
I
M
M
M
This
was
directed
more
just
for
just
general
sense,
because
I've
heard
from
from
people
who
aren't
on
City
Council
just
residents
who
are
confused
a
little
bit
about
what
this
is
and
what
this
isn't
so
that
you
know
this
is
taking
an
something
that
was
an
agreement
that
was
an
agreement
in
name
only,
maybe
and
really
professionalizing
it
and
making
it
true.
So
I
think
that's
good
I.
Also
Councilwoman
Harris's
point
do
want
to
mention
that
I
was
at
the
table.
M
I
was
part
of
these
conversations
appointed
by
a
council
president
Krause
to
be
a
representative
of
Council.
The
decision
was
made
to
approach
each
council
member
individually
and
allow
them
to
be
briefed
by
those
who
were
who
were
members
of
the
the
committee.
So
every
single
council
member
did
get
an
invitation.
I
think
majority
did
take
advantage
of
that.
So
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
on
the
record,
but
I
do
appreciate
again
the
recap
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
this
I
was
there
at
the
table.
M
N
N
So
my
question
to
that
and
I
don't
even
know
if
you
guys
could
answer
this.
This
might
even
be
a
Public
Works
question.
So
if
we
are
now
maintaining
the
pipes
under
those
parks,
if
something
were
to
break,
do
we
have
the
ability
internally
to
fix
that
and
again
I.
Don't
even
think
that's
a
question
for
you,
but
that's
gonna,
obviously
bump
up
our
cost,
because
now
we
have
to
purchase
certain
equipment.
N
So
I
guess
the
the
question
that
you
probably
can't
answer,
but
maybe
this
is
a
better
question
for
when
it
comes
to
standing
committee
for
our
budget
offices.
What
is
that
gonna
cost
us
in
the
long
run
right
now?
It's
easy!
You
know
you
guys
go
in
fix
it
and
you
know
maybe
the
monies
didn't
even
wash
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I,
don't
know,
but
I
mean
we're.
N
Gonna
have
to
purchase
new
equipment
which
is
going
to
raise
a
huge
red
flag
for
us
when
we
start
looking
at
budgets,
because
if
this
agreement
goes
into
effect
now,
how
is
this
going
to
affect
sort
of
our
long
term
five
year
budget
plan,
and
so
those
are
questions
that
I
really
have
about?
How
we're
going
to
maintain
a
lot
of
this
property
that
now
we
are
in
charge
of.
N
So
that's
something
that
we
probably
should
have
somebody
from
the
budget
here
or
maybe
grant
you
can
get
those
questions
answered
for
prior
of
those
meetings
and
then
the
one
court,
the
other
question
for
this
would
be
when
it
comes
to
new
costs
as
well.
If
he,
if
I
read
this
correctly,
maybe
I
just
read
the
wording
a
little
bit
wrong.
If
there's
property
that
you're
going
to
now
take
over
with
regards
to
people
not
paying
bills,
certain
things
like
that.
Does
that
cost
anything
with
title,
searches
or
backgrounds
and
liens
on
property?
D
Me
answer
your
questions
backwards:
okay
on
liens
and
things
like
that.
No
you're
not
affected
at
all,
okay
on
issues
like
a
valuing
property
so
that
we
can
get
a
correct
perta
amount,
the
city
and
thus
have
decided
to
split
the
cost
of
assessment
of
those
properties.
We
don't
know
what
that
cost
is,
but
we
could
certainly
talk
about
how
that's
to
be
done
in
the
future
and
as
far
as
maintenance
in
parks
is
concerned,
the
current
agreement
actually
doesn't
change
as
much
as
it
sounds
like
because
you
actually
do
some
work
yourselves
now.
Well,.
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Won't
be
a
budgetary
impact
and
that's
what
we
are
trying
to
forestall
with
this
agreement
is
to
give
you
the
chance
to
get
ready
for
that
over
a
course
of
five
years,
so
that
you
can
phase
that
in
we're
not
interested
in
bankrupting
the
city
that
doesn't
do
any
of
us
any
good,
and
that
would
put
us
right
back
to
where
we
were
before
ak-47.
That
would
be
foolish
on
everybody's
part.
Yeah.
N
N
It
has
implications
for
us
too
right
and-
and
you
guys
did
a
good
job
on
this
agreement,
and
the
only
question
that
I
had
in
you
and
I
spoke
before
was
trying
to
get
a
resolution
from
PWSA
to
strengthen
the
public
ownership
of
the
agreement
right
now,
it's
it's
here
somewhere,
but
it's
just
one
little
line.
It.
D
I
D
It
stronger
and
more
acceptable
I
think
that
it
WSA
has
done
everything
we
can,
including
signing
the
pledge
and
as
a
board,
to
keep
this
a
public
institution.
To
me,
public
means
not
owned
by
a
private
corporation.
Ever
in
fact,
I
had
the
gavel
changed
to
say
on
the
outside
of
the
gavel:
Pittsburgh
Water
owned
by
and
for
the
people
of
Pittsburgh,
and
so
we're
very
serious
about
that.
We,
and
there
is
no
incentive
at
all
for
the
PWSA
to
sell
the
organization
we
wouldn't
get
anything
out
of
it.
N
N
How
that'd
be
great
yeah
and
that
would
help
the
general
public
as
well
I.
Think
that's!
The
biggest
question
we
get
is
that
you
know
you'd
sign
these
agreements
and
it's
not
going
to
be
public
anymore
and
then
the
last
question
that
I
had
now
that
you
guys
are
open
to
doing
something
over
there,
which
is
great,
and
you
said
that
before
you
guys
all
have
said
that
so
I
just
want
to
ask
that
question.
Where
are
we
and
I
was
stepping
in
and
out
on
calls?
D
N
B
D
K
K
K
They
were
professional,
I
think
you
know,
you'll
hear
a
lot
about
maybe
their
history,
but
everything
who
doesn't
have
some
sort
of
history,
flawed
history
in
delivering
water,
so
so
I
like
them.
You
know
if
there
were
to
be
some
sort
of
partnership
and
there
would
be
my
company
of
choice
because
they
want
it
and
of
course
we
know
they
want
it
for
profit.
Okay,
there's
no
mistake
in
that:
okay,
but
just
a
couple
of
things:
I
learned
from
them
that
I
thought
were
stark.
K
K
Know
if
it's
a
matter
of
the
infrastructure
as
to
where
they're
at
or
just
neglect
over
50
years
or
so,
but
you
have
to
comment
I'm
just
telling
you
what
I
noticed
two
differences.
The
other
thing
was:
it's
most
likely
you'll
see
their
employees
on
a
main
water
break.
If,
if
something
goes
wrong
in
a
neighborhood,
a
16
inch
vibrates
as
opposed
to
subcontractors,
I
know
they're
using
contractors
as
well.
So
those
are
a
few
things
I
like
about
private
business,
but
why
would
we
ever
give
up
an
asset
like
water?
K
You
know
I'm
right
with
you.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
unless
we
can't
deliver
clean
water.
Okay,
so
I
would
much
rather
pay
for
good,
clean
water,
expensive,
clean
water
than
cheap.
You
know
contaminated
water,
that's
just
doesn't
cut
it
and
that
affects
the
whole
city.
Even
though
PWSA
does
not
supply
my
district.
You
know
it
certainly
affects
the
entire
city.
If
we
have
contaminated
water
on
people
for
the
next
Flint
Michigan,
it
does
not
bode
well
for
whether
it's
attracting
homebuyers
or
businesses
or
anyway,
I'll
say
this.
So
my
confidence
has
increased
greatly.
Okay.
K
Over
the
past
year
and
a
half
I
knew
nothing
about
PWSA
coming
in
okay,
I
didn't
know
about
the
the
management
I'm
very
little
about
the
history,
but
in
doing
my
homework
I'm
becoming
more
and
more
confident,
and
probably
mostly
because
the
energy
you
all
have
put
into
it
and
and
just
a
my
my
mindset
is
to
you
know
what
road
do
we
go
down
from
here?
Privatization,
I,
don't
think,
is
the
answer
necessarily,
but
but
the
most
important
thing
is
good,
clean
water.
K
K
You
know.
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
subsidy
I've
not
made
a
big
deal
on
a
subsidy
lately,
okay
at
first
it
was
a
big
deal
because
it
was
a
big
difference.
It
was
a
difference
of
15
$16
per
mil.
Now
it's
kind
of
evened
out
when
I
hear
other
council
members
say
it's
not
fair.
For
you
know
the
rest
of
the
city
to
subsidize
us
well,
this
was
an
agreement
that
was
made
100
years.
F
K
You
know
Penn
Americans
when
they
raise
their
rates.
I
wasn't
aware
of
that,
but
that
so
perhaps
it
will
be
a
big
deal
on
an
issue
with
me
in
the
future.
But
for
right
now
it's
kind
of
mute.
You
know
I'm
more
interested
in
like
the
operations
I
guess
you
know
when
we
have
on
a
daily
basis,
how
many
crews
do
we
have
PWSA
employees
out
there,
whether
it's
replacing
lead
pipelines
or
whatever
else
they
might
be
doing.
F
K
F
Work
in
three
primary
areas:
the
first
is
preparing
service
line.
Breaks,
second,
is
repairing
water,
main
breaks
and
third
is
doing
the
other
inspections
and
fire
hydrants
and
now
a
related
work,
we're
in
the
process
of
increasing
the
staff
and
will
in
fact
be
moving.
We've
just
brought
in
new
management
into
the
field.
Ops.
Those
fuel
ops
folks,
are
going
to
move
into
more
of
the
construction
to
try
and
reduce
the
amount
of
capital
work
done
by
contractors.
F
Also,
we
will
be
implementing
a
number
of
other
larger,
much
larger
projects,
so
some
of
our
staff
are
going
to
end
up
being
in
a
support
role
because
of
the
amount
of
valve
work
and
other
things
that
are
required
for
those
big
projects.
We
expect
to
add
additional
staff
to
deal
with
storm
water
right
now.
We
have
very
few
staff
dealing
with
storm
water,
because
if
we
don't
have
a
budget
really
for
storm
water
and
as
we
move
forward,
we
intend
to
add
a
substantial
number
of
crews
just
to
deal
with
the
storm
water
problem.
F
So
the
to
answer
your
question
generically
we
are
trying
to
increase
the
amount
of
work.
We're
doing
with
our
own
crews,
we
are
having
some
difficulty
finding
the
staff
we
need
to
do
that.
That
is
probably
one
of
the
factors
holding
us
back
but,
more
importantly,
we're
going
through
a
series
of
changes
in
the
management
structure
for
field
ops
to
actually
increase
the
performance
increase.
The
accountability
increase
the
if
you
want
to
call
a
production
yeah.
K
That's
good
to
hear
you
know.
I
know
it's
well
known.
You
hired
a
lot
of
our
talented
people
from
the
city,
which
is
great.
You
know,
and
it's
administrative
wise,
but
I
was
also
glad
to
hear
and
find
out
that
some
acquaintances
of
mine
were
hired
as
laborers
and
I
thought.
Well,
that's.
That's!
A
good
sign
I'd
like
to
see
a
more
of
a
field
presence,
I
think
any
buddy
we're
either
an
authority
or
a
company.
You
know
an
authority
really
doesn't
do
much
work.
K
I
feel
as
far
as
having
crews
out
there
in
the
field
were
other
than
hiring.
You
know
subcontracting
and
that's
one
of
differences
between
pencil,
PA,
American
and
PWSA
I
feel
like
they
have
much
more.
You
know
employees
actually
out
there
in
the
field
and
there's
a
disconnect
I
think
when
you
line
up
when
you're
dealing
with
five
subcontractors
and
I'm.
K
Looking
at
my
window
and
I
see
this
company
name
that
I
never
heard
of-
and
you
know,
I
have
to
call
that
company
and
then
they
referred
me
to
you
so
I'm
just
glad
to
hear
that
you're
hiring
on
those
ends
and
trying
to
beef
that
up.
Let
me
just
ask
you
this
I
and
it's
obviously
awkward.
They
want
a
piece
of
the
water
business
because
it's
profitable
is
it
profitable
to
us.
Where
are
we?
K
F
F
Debt
coverage,
non-payment
of
their
bills,
that
type
of
thing,
but
most
importantly,
we're
taking
as
much
money
as
we
can
and
putting
it
back
into
the
system
so,
except
for
those
circumstances
where
we're
trying
to
improve
our
legal
or
institutional
credits,
so
to
speak,
we're
putting
the
money
back
into
the
system,
we
have
probably
another
150
to
175
million
dollars
of
projects
were
on
the
boards
now
start
construction
next
year,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
reinvesting.
That's
where
the
money's
going.
G
K
K
D
We
are
dissolving
the
swaps
wherever
we
can,
as
those
tranche
has
become,
do
we
dissolve
them
and
liquidate
them
so
that
we
can
get
a
handle
on
exactly
what
our
future
indebtedness
will
be
by
converting
them
to
fixed
rate
bonds.
We
get
very
good
rates
on
bonds,
we
get
good
Penn
vest
loans
at
1%
and
we
will
be
borrowing
money
in
the
future
to
do
capital
projects.
All
utilities
are
capital
money
intensive.
D
G
E
E
K
That
to
me
is
like-
and
that
brings
me
to
my
question-
for
you
is
like
Councilwoman,
kale
Smith.
Okay
to
me,
you
don't
even
supply
my
water
okay,
but
this
water
runoff,
the
the
water
containment
is,
is
just
out
of
control.
I,
don't
feel.
What's
the
city's
fault,
I
don't
feel
in
most
cases
it's
not
PWSA
fault.
You
can
look
to
some
sores
and,
and
some
curbs
that
are
you
know,
streets
that
haven't
been
milled.
K
You
can
look
at
it
out
all
day
long,
but
in
some
cases
I
don't
think
anybody's
gonna
stop
the
water.
When
we
talk
about
Provost
and
I,
don't
care
what
you
do,
I,
don't
care
how
big
of
wall
you
build!
How
many
drains
you
put
in
and
I
hate
to
see
PWSA,
invest
in
it
capital
project
to
try
to
fix
something
that
we're
not
going
to
fix?
Okay,
so
I've
already
come
to
the
decision
on
my
part
and
I'm,
putting
request
into
the
capital
budget
to
have
those
folks
bought
out
to
me
it's
a
cheaper.
K
So
when
we're
talking
about
putting
a
mainline
in,
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
fraction
of
cost
as
it
would
be
to
buy
these
people
I
I'm
talking
about
28
homes,
someone
88,
someone
Provost,
okay,
that
to
me
it's
even
go
down
the
road
to
try
to
figure
out
how
you're
going
to
stop
that
water
from
coming
in
we're.
Spinning
our
wheels
and
to
buy
them
out
would
be
a
fraction
of
the
cost,
I
feel
and
I.
Don't
know,
what's
involved
in
trying
to
control
all
that
water,
but
they
cannot
be
cheap.
K
I
could
say
that
so
so
I
would
like
a
commitment
from
you.
Okay,
the
water
Councilwoman
gross,
you
know,
has
complete
belief
in
you.
She
bought
throughout
aqua
when
I
had
him
here.
One
day,
you
know
she's
a
loyal,
very
loyal
board.
Member
of
yours.
I
tried
to
get
him
down
just
to
have
a
quick
conversation
and
that
didn't
work
out
too
well
for
aqua
and
I
so,
but
but
most
recently,
I
asked
I
said
because
I'm
not
quite
sure,
myself
I
said.
K
Are
you
completely
confident
in
the
fact
that
PWSA
can
deliver
clean,
safe
water
for
generations
to
come,
and
she
without
hesitation
said
yes?
And
that
means
a
lot
to
me.
I
could
tell
you,
because
she
is
much
more
of
an
insight
than
I
do
where
I
really
need.
You
is
in
storm
storm
management
and,
if
I
think
I
have
easier
time
getting
the
mayor
to
approve
my
capital
budget
request.
If
you
were
to
try
to
put
into
the
pot
for
us
ultimately,
route,
51
and
88
is
a
complete
mess.
K
It's
in
shambles
every
time
it
rains
they
have
to
shut
51
down.
People
leave
their
homes
to
a
T
of
these
28
homes.
I'm
talking
about
every
which
one
of
them
are
willing
to
sell.
As
long
as
they
can
get
the
fair
market
value
for
their
house,
you
know
and
whether
it
cost
you
got
28
houses,
there
I
think
I
estimated.
Roughly
three
million
dollars
will
buy
out
every
one
of
those
houses,
not
that
I
feel
it's
a
city's
obligation
to
do
that.
I
really
don't
I
feel
like
it's,
whether
it's
the
global
warming.
K
You
could
blame
a
lot
of
different
reasons
for
it.
It's
not
PWS
s
fault
either,
but
it's
the
most
sensible
thing
to
do,
because
what
it's
gonna
cost
to
try
to
correct-
and
you
know
rectify
these
problems-
is
just
astronomical.
I
would
think
it's
an
easy
way
out.
People
are
happy
to
leave,
but
more
importantly,
green
space
or
that
reservoir
space
that
we
can
hold
release
slowly
and
help
control
flooding
all
the
way
down.
K
51
I
do
have
a
extensive
experience
in
diverting
water
I'm,
a
roofing
contractor,
which
believe
it
or
not,
comes
in
handy
in
all
these
issues.
You
know
I
can
locate
where
the
water's
coming
from
how
much
is
coming?
Is
it
stoppable
these
two
areas?
I'm
convinced,
there's
nothing
in
solar,
the
homeowners
there's
nothing.
They
say
they
say
Oh.
What
we
need
is
a
soar
here
all
we
need
nothing
they.
They
know
that
it's
not
gonna
stop
providing
the
rains,
keep
coming
in
the
consistency
that
they're
commenting
on
me,
they're
gonna
continue.
C
K
Don't
want
to
be
out
there
with
your
engineers
or
anybody,
because
I
feel
like
it's
a
lost
cause.
Let's
require
let's
acquire
that
space
I
feel.
Let's
get
the
Army
Corps
engineer
then
maybe
they'll
be
interested
in
coming
in
for
a
real
solution
to
help
flooding
downstream,
but
without
that
land.
If
we
don't
have
that
space
to
work
with,
we
have
nothing.
All
we
have
is
neighbors
that
are
getting
flooded
every
every
other
week.
K
So
so
to
me,
I
would
love
to
see
a
commitment
from
you
on
a
financial
commitment
for
by
us
I
think
we're
talking
28
homes
and
make
a
world
of
difference
here
and
20
30
years
from
now
could
solve
all
these
problems
with
the
right
people.
You
know
you
know
figuring
out
what
to
do
with
that
space.
I
think
it's
a
heck
of
a
lot
cheaper
from
a
business
point
of
view.
I
think
this
is
again
a
fraction
of
the
money
would
cost
to
actually
do
new
infrastructure
or
I.
K
K
G
K
There's
a
ton
of
things
contributing
to,
but
what
I'm
looking
for
and
I'm
hoping
to
get
out
on
these
sites
like
next
week?
Do
we
have
a
professional
somebody
to
come
out
there
and
say
look
this
is
let's
cut
bait
here?
We
need
to
offer
them
a
Buy
or
yeah.
We
can
put
a
big
storm
but
drain
here
and
so.
K
F
Are
in
fact
going
to
be
right
now
we're
focusing
on
problem
areas.
Queenston
happens
to
be
one
such
problem
area.
The
principal
problem
is
that
there
are
large
tracts
of
land.
As
you
say,
they
really
don't
have
any
stormwater
control
whatsoever.
The
systems
that
were
put
in
place
either
we're
not
designed
to
carry
stormwater
or
are
already
the
water
system.
Excuse
me,
the
combined
sewer
system
was
only
designed
to
carry
a
2
year
storm
event.
We've
been
having
20
and
40
year.
F
Storm
events,
so
it
was
never
large
enough
in
the
first
place,
so
we
need
to
start
looking
at
different
ways
of
managing.
Now.
It
just
so
happens
that
that
sawmill
run
area
is
also
under
what
they
call
a
total
maximum
daily
load,
which
is
a
water
quality
parameter,
and
we
are
required
to
meet
certain
conditions
within
a
certain
period
of
time
within
the
next
5
years.
F
We
have
in
fact
begun
implementing
projects
with
10
other
communities
in
sawmill
run
and
the
project
areas
that
you're
speaking
of
may
just
be
viable
candidates
to
increase
the
amount
of
water
quality
improvement
we
can
achieve.
We
are
working
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers.
They
have
funded
two
of
our
projects,
that
one
of
which
is
either
starting
construction
or
has
started
construction,
which
are
all
intended
to
help
with
this
problem.
We
have
in
in
the
rough.
F
Problem
we
happen
to
run
so
then
they
have
told
us
that
if
we
can
demonstrate
the
water
quality
improvements,
then
they're
willing
to
fund
additional
projects.
So
we
have
a
staff
that
can
come
and
look
at
these
areas
because
we
have
been
studying
the
entire
stretch
for
the
last
two
years
and
we
also
have
a
project
that
we've
joined
forces
with
Penn
vest.
F
Who
sees
me
PennDOT
and
PennDOT
is
going
to
put
out
a
design
bid,
operate
design
build
operate
contracts
which
they
have
the
right
to
do,
and
we
do
not
they're
having
us
be
their
project
manager.
We
will
manage
the
construction
and
execution
of
the
work.
That's
a
six
million
dollar
project
that
we're
going
to
be
sharing
costs
with
surrounding
communities.
So
the
fact
remains
that
what
you're
talking
about
is
very
analogous
with
what
we've
already
started
doing,
and
we
would
welcome
the
opportunity
to
talk
further
about.
B
Okay,
if
I
met
I
really
want
to
bring
the
conversation
back
to
the
agreement.
Okay
and
I
have
a
number
of
questions
that
I'd
like
to
ask
just
for
for
my
own
clarification.
If
I
may
so
the
down
here,
there
is
a
sort
of
a
subtext
that
says
the
start.
Items
may
be
issued
with
the
PUC
and
I'd
like
to
kind
of
go
over
those
first
just
in
case
there.
There
is
a
better
explanation
for
the
first
one
being
the
city
will
pay
for
water
and
fire
hydrant
service
charges
on
a
five-year
phased-in
basis.
B
D
B
G
B
C
B
This
is
an
absolute
honest,
forthright
attempt
to
correct
structural
problems
that
have
existed
for
decades
and
I
do
think.
It's
a
good
faith
effort
and
I
will
support
it.
I
might
have
a
couple
of
suggestions
over
time.
All
members
were
invited
by
the
administration
to
come
over
and
to
be
briefed,
I
believe
most
members
accepted
that
invitation
to
go
over
and
to
be
briefed.
B
So
we
did
have
some
of
this
conversation,
but
I'd
kind
of
like
to
boil
down
a
little
bit
more
into
the
the
specifics
of
the
agreement
and
the
cost
that
we
may
be
beginning
to
see.
Another
issue
that
PUC
could
have
a
problem
with
is
PWSA
making
voluntary
payments
to
the
city
phased
in
over
five
years
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
appraising
the
water
facilities
for
feet.
That,
again
is
the
five-year
phase-in
and
anyway.
B
D
A
government
unit
and
because
we're
government,
you
know
we
don't
pay
taxes,
no
government
unit
pays
taxes,
but
we
wanted
to
act
more
like
a
utility,
and
so
we
voluntarily
put
into
this.
We
would
subsidize
the
city
for
those
tax
amounts
that
they
would
be
getting
if
we
were
bought
by
a
public
utility
and
do.
D
B
B
Why
were
having
the
the
problems
with
our
sewer
overflows
and
those
things,
but
as
a
member
of
the
equipment,
leasing,
Authority
I,
believe
the
desire
of
the
city
is
to
somewhat
pull
back
on
street
sweeping
and
not
to
be
because
it
can
be
burdensome
and
cumbersome
and
getting
people
to
move,
and
we
get
requests
from
neighborhoods
like
Oakland
all
the
time,
it's
terribly
difficult
to
try
to
move
their
car
to
clean
the
streets
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
how
do
we?
B
D
Of
the
issues
is
that
we
are
under
an
EPA,
a
consent
decree
to
do
those
things.
Street
sweeping
is
one
of
them
and
we
will
pay
the
fines,
which
could
be
as
much
as
like
a
million
dollars
a
day
if
you
don't
comply
and
we
get
cited.
So
we
want
the
street
sweeping
to
continue
and
in
order
to
do
that
and
avoid
the
fines,
we're
willing
to
pay
you
and
reimburse
you
for
those
costs
associated
with
half
of
the
city
that
is
required
under
the
EPA
consent
decree
to
be
swept
so.
G
B
Which
I
do
agree,
but
how
then
do
we?
How
do
we
provide
a
level
of
accountability
that
says
we
have
swept
X
amount
of
miles
of
Street
and
of
X
amount
of
debris
to
keep
in
compliance
with
an
EPA
regulation?
Is
there
a
formula.
F
E
I
B
Councilwoman
and
I
were
having
conversation
for
the
meeting
about
an
email
that
I
got
over
the
weekend
about
it
same
thing
about
that.
I
want
to
go
to
the
next
a
strict
item
here
and
just
to
make
certain
that
I'm
clear
as
to
why
there
a
stirring,
so
PWSA
will
grant
a
five
year
exemption
on
government
or
property
tap
and
fees
for
April's
met.
The
exemption
will
not
apply
to
you
are
a
development
type
projects.
B
H
D
B
G
B
That
is
the
governance,
if
you
will
of
PWSA,
and
it
creates
a
great
level
of
a
faith
in
me
and
in
that
the
organization
is
the
people
and
clearly
the
people
are
shining
in
the
organization,
as
we
see
it
now,
but
I
wonder,
philosophically
speaking,
you
know
where
how
and
why
we
would
want
to
terminate
an
agreement
and
why
we
would
want
to
return
to
where
we
are,
because
it's
not
a
good
place.
Well,.
D
D
It's
been
convenient
for
this
Agreement
because
we
terminated
it
on
February
4th.
The
PWSA
did
the
termination
which
has
caused
this
new
agreement.
Otherwise
you
would
be
getting
a
water
bill
for
a
hundred
percent
and
you
would
be
getting
nothing
from
us
things
like
pension
and
whatever
it
would
be.
A
warfare
on
each
item.
I
would
rather
have
this
put
together
in
one
agreement
that
guarantees
the
city
certain
incomes
and
guarantees
us
what
we
have
to
ask
for
under
the
PUC
all
in
one
package.
D
I
I
Know,
there's
got
and
I
don't
know,
there's
probably
no
opportunity
to
pre
negotiate
this
with
the
with
the
PUC,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
language
in
and
maybe
it
just
falls
into
the
disputes
clause
or
something
I
don't
know,
but
well
there.
There
should
be
another
opportunity
for
us
to
talk.
If
the
PUC
says
okay,
you
can't
do
that
so
I,
don't
know
how
you
want
to
work
that
in
into
the
end
of
this
language,
the.
I
H
H
I
Yeah,
so
that's
something
that
you
need
to
address
and
then
just
two
more
things
that
Councilwoman
Harris
raised.
The
idea
of
curb
to
curb
street
replacement
is
something
that
a
lot
of
municipalities
do
and
require
I
mean
it's
there's
cost
issue
to
that.
But
it
is
something
that
you
should
consider.
I.
Think
her
issues
with
respect
to
lifted
waste
noise
is
is
it
will
be
addressed
by
the
alkis
and
trunk
line
issue
and
then
finally,
the
Social
Security
offset
there's
no
way
you
can
have
that
can
continue
with.
I
We
have
some
people
in
this
system
who
don't
have
it
some
who
do?
There's
got
to
be
uniformity,
there's
a
basic
fairness
issue
and
so
I
know.
That's
probably
not
something
for
this
discussion,
but
it
really
it
really
needs
or
not
something
for
this
agreement,
but
it
should
be
in
this
discussion
right
now
as
to
what
you're
gonna
do
about
the
offset
moving
forward.
So
so.
B
So
Michael
was
able
to
sort
of
formulate
into
verbage
what
I
had
going
on
in
my
brain
and
didn't
quite
know
how
to
get
on
to
my
lips,
and
that
was
if
they
do
say
no
or
if
there
are
issues,
then,
where
do
we
go
from
here,
I?
Think
too
often
we
wet
ourselves
to
this
idea
that
everything
is
carved
in
stone,
but
everything
we
do
is
fluid.
B
Everything
we
do
here
is
is
subject
to
be
every
open
and
re-examined
and
and
improve
in
any
way
that
we
can
so
I
have
some
level
of
comfort
that
you
know
if
there
there
are
disagreements
with
me.
You
see
in
things
that
we
have
agreed
with
here
that
will,
as
ladies
and
gentlemen,
meet
again
and
figure
out
how,
to
you
know,
craft
an
agreement
that
is
going
to
service
in
our
best
interest
and
then
finally,
there
is
a
those
severability.
B
But
as
far
as
where
we
are
today
with
this
I
do
I
believe
it's
a
good
faith
effort.
We
might
need
a
tweak
here
or
there
I'm
happy
to
help
any
way.
I
can
I
will
support.
I
know
the
council
I
know
our
desire
as
a
city,
both
administration
and
councils,
to
complete
this
before
we
leave
for
our
recess
I'll.
Do
everything
in
my
power
to
assist
that
we
are
able
to
do
that
before
we
before
we
do
recess
and
my
mind's
open
and
my
doors
open.
So
thank
you.
G
H
You
so
much
for,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
an
expeditious
resolution
there
so
as
I
think
we
heard
from
most
council
members
that
there
is
will,
in
this
body
to
protect
that
this
asset
is
a
public
asset.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
our
Budget
Office
about
is
whether
or
not
in
spilling
that
out.
It
should
be
covering
operate
and
maintain
agreement.
B
H
It
was
this
council
that
was
very
integral,
with
Councilwoman
skill,
Smith's
leadership,
councilman
Harris
his
leadership,
with
my
participation
on
the
board
and
being
very
vocal
critic
that
even
preliminary
privatization
that
that
interim
privatization,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it-
and
it
was
very
it-
was
a.
It
was
a
real
eye-opener
for
me
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
I've
been
such
an
ardent
supporter
of
this
asset
remaining
public
and
publicly
operated.
So
what
this
language
does
not
have
its
kind
of
defining
that
and
spilling
that
out
and
I.
H
Think
a
couple
other
members
have
talked
to
this.
It
was
very
eloquently
presented
to
us
and
opposed
to
agenda
format
like
this,
that
councilman
Strassburger
hosted
on
kind
of
what
is
privatization
or
public-private
partnerships
by
the
think
tank
out
of
California,
whose
name
I
can't
remember
TV,
f
om
was
his
act,
that
the
mnemonic
for
privatization.
That
I
can
remember,
but
I
can't
remember
what
the
actual
I
think
take
was.
That
would
come
back
to
me.
H
So
we
often
use
and
many
people
often
use
kind
of
designing
and
building
or
financing
with
board
oversight
and
public
oversight.
But
once
you
get
down
into
those
other
levels
of
operating
and
maintaining
let
alone
selling
that
you're
really
looking
at
the
loss
of
control.
In
other
words,
it
was
in
Flint
Michigan,
also
Veolia
corporation,
that
was
operating,
maintaining
their
water
system
when
they
encountered
the
same
public
health
crisis
around
led
issues
and
other
other
contaminants
in
the
water
system,
and
that
was
that
was
their
state.
Overseers.
H
I,
think
that
had
come
in
and
taken
away
the
operating
and
maintaining
of
that
system
away
from
their
local
City
Council
and
put
it
in
the
hands
of
Veolia,
and
so
when
the
citizens
had
their
very
legitimate
grievances.
It
took
them
well
over
a
year
to
get
action
because
the
state
didn't
want
to
hear
it
and
VOE
didn't
want
to
hear
it
and
their
City
Council
is
powerless,
and
so
that
was
a
very,
very
clear
lesson
for
me.
H
So
I'm
definitely
open
to
not
only
in
this
document
but
outside
of
it
and
I
have
contact
I
had
the
councilman
from
Baltimore
who
proposed
that
referendum
at
that
same
post
agenda
tonight,
councilman
Strasburg,
future
councilman
Henry
came
here,
and
you
were
there
too.
So
we
were
all
you
know,
lived
through
that
and
so
I'm
open
to
anybody's
good
suggestions
for
our
homeworld
Charter
and
how
that
could
be
amended
to
protect
this
water
system.
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
L
H
D
D
L
L
Well,
Danny,
but
I
have
to
make
money.
They
need
to
make
one
for
you.
What
me
all
of
us
and
the
other
issue
is
I'm,
probably
going
to
try
to
have
a
post
agenda
on
it.
It's
the
plastic
that
the
city
is
now
putting
down
on
the
streets
works
good
in
some
places
that
don't
have
winters,
but
we
have
winners
and
when
you
scrape
it
up,
it's
like
throwing
a
couple
boxes
of
straws,
gotta
catch
basil.
B
L
K
So
great
I'll
know,
if
you
know
anything
about
that
so
I
caught
wind
of
this
through,
like
somebody
I,
don't
know
who
was
and
I'm
like
I'm
on
the
phone
with
him
every
day
whether
it's
Ronnie's
tires
or
you
know
that
people
are
getting
flooded
out.
I'm
like
I,
need
that
good
piece
of
news
I'm,
like
where's
the
communication
I'm
the
one
out
there,
you
know
I'm
the
one
that
I
can't
wait
to
give
them
a
piece
of
good
news
like
we're
doing
something
there.
You
know.
F
K
K
Yeah
so
I
don't
know
if
that
was
to
say
somebody
told
me
I
kind
of
cut
it
through
the
grapevine
but
I'm
hoping
so
you
know
in
this
way
at
least
with
Ronny.
Some.
You
know
where
that
little
bath
pool
bathtub
is
maybe
I
hope
alleviate
some
of
that.
So
if
there
is
something
going
on,
please
let
me
know
so:
I
could
yeah.