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From YouTube: Pittsburgh City Council Public Hearing - 7/9/19
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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
Pittsburgh
City
Council's
public
hearing
for
Tuesday
July
9
2019.
My
name
is
Kim
Clark,
Baskin
and
I'm
your
deputy
city
clerk
with
us.
Today
we
have
our
sign
language
interpreter
Dane,
Engel
hop
the
following
is
a
piece
of
legislation
to
be
heard
by
Pittsburgh
City
Council
bill
number
1775
resolution
authorizing
a
cooperation
agreement
between
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
the
Pittsburgh
Water
and
Sewer
Authority
to
provide
for
the
rights
and
obligations
of
each
party
with
respect
to
the
other
and
for
payments
in
capital
cooperation
between
the
parties.
B
Okay
good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
this
cablecast
public
hearing
a
Pittsburgh
City
Council
for
today,
Tuesday
July
2,
the
ninth
2019.
We
are
here
as
it
relates
to
bill
1775
I
am
councilman,
Krause
I'll
be
chairing
this
evening's
public
hearing.
We
are
joined
by
Councilwoman
gross
Councilwoman
Cal
Smith
councilman,
Strassburger
councilman,
the
one
and
only
councilman
O'connor
okay.
So
with
that,
madam
clerk
may
I,
please
have
the
purpose
of
bill
1775
bill.
C
B
You,
madam
Clerk,
so
with
that
we
will
go
into
hearing
from
our
registered
speakers.
We
have
five
that
five
people
that
have
registered
to
either
speak
in
favor
or
to
register
comment
on
the
bill.
We
ask
that
when
you
come
to
the
podium
that
you
please
give
your
name
in
the
neighborhood
in
which
you
reside
for
our
public
record.
B
Ask
that
you
please
come
to
the
podium,
give
your
name
in
the
neighborhood
in
which
you
reside
for
our
public
record.
The
green
light
will
indicate
the
start
of
your
three
minutes.
When
the
yellow
light
comes
on.
You
will
have
one
minute
to
summarize
your
thoughts
when
the
red
light
comes
on,
then,
of
course,
your
time
will
have
expired.
Our
first
registered
speaker
this
evening
is
Ali
Shah.
Now,
if
you'll
come
up,
you'll
be
followed
by
Madeleine
Weiss.
Welcome.
Thank.
E
You
my
name's
Ali
Shah
I,
live
in
Squirrel
Hill,
so
I'm
with
the
our
water,
our
rivers
campaign,
with
Pittsburg
United
and
in
March.
Our
campaign
had
a
local
lobby
day
where
we
asked
you
on
city
council,
the
mayor
state
representatives
and
state
senators
and
county
representatives
to
sign
on
to
a
pledge
fully
committing
to
public
water,
including
public-private
partnerships,
a
ban
on
public
private
partnerships,
green
infrastructure
and
good
union
jobs
in
the
water
and
wastewater
sector.
E
And
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
PWC
board
added
their
name
to
our
pledge,
committing
to
keeping
PwC
a
publicly
owned,
publicly
owned
and
run
by
the
people,
and
that
was
on
top
of
many
of
the
city
council
people
and
the
mayor
that
signed
on
to
this
pledge
and
we're
very
happy
with
that.
And
that
language
has
made
it
into
this
Cove
agreement,
stating
that
should
be
publicly
owned
utility
and
not
only
has
PWSA
officially
signed
on
to
our
pledge,
but
they're,
taking
steps
to
work
towards
water
equity.
E
They're
on
this
water
equity
task
force
with
our
campaign,
the
city,
the
mayor's
office
and
a
couple
other
community
groups
as
part
of
the
u.s.
water
Alliance
water
equity
task
force
and
are
actually
working
to
implement
some
of
these
things
to
commit
to
safe,
affordable
public
water,
which
we're
also
really
happy
about.
So
we're
asking
you
council
to
now
take
this
step
and
approve
the
cop
agreement
that
includes
the
language
that
it
keeps
it
fully
public.
E
While
it's
non-binding,
I
think
it's
an
important
symbolic
move
to
let
people
outside
the
city
who
might
still
have
an
and
privatizing
water,
know
that
people
in
Pittsburgh
are
on
the
same
page.
That
PwC
must
remain
public
and
we
ask
that
you
do
this
in
a
timely
manner
so
that
we
can
get
to
continue
working
on
some
of
the
critical
issues
like
safety,
affordability,
workforce
development
and
finally,
getting
a
full
PwC
board.
So
thank
you.
B
F
And
so
I'm
Madeline
Weiss
they
live
in
Wilkinsburg,
but
I
work
here
downtown
disagreements.
This
agreement
gets
us
closer
to
everyone,
paying
their
fair
share
for
water
in
Pittsburgh,
including
Phipps.
The
zoo,
the
aviary
all
paying
their
fair
share
residents
should
no
longer
subsidize
a
private
company
or
city-owned
properties,
while
thousands
cannot
afford
to
pay
for
sizable
rate
increases.
We
ask
that
the
council
passed
this
agreement
and
continue
to
work
with
PWSA
to
find
ways
to
create
an
equitable
water
rate
structure
that
keeps
water
water
affordable
for
all.
Thanks.
B
G
D
G
We
simply
support
passing
this
so
that
we
can
focus
on
and
publicize
winning
safe,
affordable,
publicly
controlled
water,
as
well
as
a
region-wide
green
first
plan
that
gives
city
residents
the
biggest
bank
for
their
stormwater
buck
and
also
a
well-run
PWSA,
where
you've
got
clear
rules
and
everybody
else
what's
going
on
is
probably
the
best
way
to
keep
the
organization
public.
So
we
support
passing
this.
Thank.
B
D
H
Maybe
I'm
really
wrong,
but
I
thought
whenever
we
have
these
open
hearings,
you
have
about
the
rights
and
obligation,
but
what
are
they
it
used
to
be
that
you
would
have
someone
come
from
the
water
department
and
explain
what
everything
what
you're
gonna
do.
So
it
seems
that
you
all
know
what
the
what
it's
about,
but
how
come
there's
nothing
written
here
for
us
for
me
or
anybody
else
to
know
seriously.
Think
about
it.
You
all
know
talk
about.
H
The
agreement
is
not
wide
agreement
here
so
like
to
see
or
anybody
else
they
don't
know
see.
The
problem
I
had
with
you
as
City
Council.
This
group,
like
I've,
been
coming
27
years.
The
problem
I
had
with
this
group
is
that
you
do
things
and
we
know
nothing
about
it.
You
understand
like:
what's
you
pregnant
gone,
no
one
said
anything
and
you
come
back
your
babies,
three
months
old.
How
could
that
be?
Did
you
have
a
doctor's
excuse?
Why
you
couldn't
come
back
and
sit
there
two
days
a
week,
see
that
bothers
me.
H
Cuz
I'm
from
the
poor
neighborhood
no
way
we
could
get
a
job
like
that
five
thousand
dollars
a
lump.
You
got
for
just
sitting,
you
didn't
faint
see.
What
bothers
me
is
that
you
didn't
tell
us.
She
just
disappeared.
One
day
never
said
on
maternity
leave,
never
said
that
she
would
be
off.
Please
understand,
you're
running
this
city.
We're
supposed
to
are.
H
H
Have
a
husband,
Asst
he's
crippled
because
he
worked
for
the
city
and
when
I
said
one
time
come
on,
let
me
go
Oh.
What
do
you
have
to
do?
I
have
a
husband
that
he's
crippled.
He
worked
for
this
city
and
yes
are
using
our
money
and
we
don't
know
how
why
I
want
to
know
where
the
pennies
go,
because
they
add
up
to
dollars.
H
B
Thank
You
mr.
brown,
we
appreciate
everyone,
that's
here,
for
the
public
hearing,
keeping
their
comments
to
the
bill
before
us,
which
is
bill
1775,
as
it
relates
to
the
cooperation
agreement
between
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
the
Pittsburgh
Water
and
Sewer
Authority.
We
we
have,
we
have
exhausted
the
list
of
registered
speakers.
Is
there
anyone
else
in
attendance
tonight
at
this
public
hearing
that
wishes
to
address
City
Council?
B
Okay,
just
as
a
footnote,
we
ask
that
you
register
in
advance
to
speak
if
you
have
not
registered
in
advance.
We
limit
your
comment
to
to
one
minute,
but
I
really
appreciate
that
you
came
down
to
make
the
time
to
be
here
so
I'm
going
to
waive
that
tonight
and
grant
you
both
the
three
minutes
in
which
to
speak,
but
is
that
the
only
to
then
wish
to
register
comment
and
I'm
going
to
take?
You
I
understand?
B
I
My
name
is
crystal
night
and
while
I
live
in
Swissvale
I
work
in
Bloomfield
Garfield
for
the
Thomas
Merton
Center,
where
we
work
with
the
our
water,
our
rivers
campaign,
the
TMC
has
hundreds
of
Pittsburgh
members
that
have
from
day
one
stood
firmly
against
privatization
of
any
kind,
from
full
control
to
the
grave
public-private
partnership
scale
and
as
a
worker
in
the
city
who
spends
the
majority
of
my
time
within
the
city
limits.
This
issue
affects
people
in
the
broader
region
who
drink
water
and
go
about
their
daily
lives.
Oh
sorry,
in
Pittsburgh.
I
Unfortunately,
we
know
the
fight.
We
know
that
the
fight
against
privatization
is
far
from
over
private
companies
like
Penn,
American
and
aqua.
America
will
continue
to
try
to
expand
in
this
region
and
in
Pittsburgh
with
state
Republicans
receiving
thousands
of
dollars
in
campaign
donations
from
those
companies.
They
will
continue
to.
They.
I
I
Representatives
and
counties
far
from
Pittsburgh
are
using
the
disastrous
act,
12
that
passed
in
2016
to
push
publicly
owned
authorities
to
concede
to
the
shady
promises
they
made
in
our
names.
We
need
a
local
government
that
is
willing
to
fight
to
protect
us
Hino
from
the
2016
food,
water
and
water
watch,
state
of
public
water
in
the
United
States
report
that
in
Pennsylvania
private
systems
charged
eighty
four
percent
more
than
public
systems.
That
translates
to
an
extra
three
hundred
and
twenty
three
dollars
a
years.
Families
are
burdened
with
caring
to
secure
a
private
company's
profits.
I
That
is
why
it
is
so
important
for
the
mayor's
office
PWSA
and
City
Council,
as
our
representatives
to
agree
to
keep
PwC
publicly
controlled
for
the
long
term
and
as
much
as
we
all
idealize
the
world
in
which
the
federal
government
acknowledged
their
responsibility
to
invest
in
our
nation's
infrastructure.
We
know
that
this
administration
is
pushing
for
anything
but
public
accountability.
I
The
president's
original
infrastructure
plan
relied
on
a
hundred
billion
dollar
fund
incentivizing
private
sector
involvement
in
public
utilities,
rather
than
following
in
the
course
of
the
Trump
administration
of
selling
off
a
region's
most
precious
and
valuable
resource.
Pittsburgh
should
make
a
strong
and
clear
path
protecting
our
water
for
its
residents
today
and
generations
to
come,
and
we
don't
have
to
look
far
to
find
an
inspiring
example
of
community
groups,
city
government
and
workers
working
together
to
do
the
critical
work
of
protecting
their
water
and
residents.
I
Baltimore
made
history
by
being
the
first
city
to
overwhelmingly
vote.
It's
abandoned
the
privatization
of
the
city's
water
and
sewer
systems.
We
should
use
their
example
as
a
path
forward,
and
disagreement
could
be
the
first
step
in
doing
that.
Passing
this
agreement
is
part
of
that
and
we
ask
that
all
these
entities
do
what
they
can
to
make
that
statement
permanent.
Thank
you.
B
J
So
my
name
is
Bernadette
used
and
I
represent
the
banks.
Law
section
of
the
city
I
also
represent
the
Hayson
Avenue
residents,
also
known
as
help
for
hasten
hashtag
help,
for
hasten.
Please
feel
free
to
look
it
up.
Although
I
do
never
thought
I'd
say
the
word
I
would
like
to
privatize
water
today,
I
feel
like
I
have
to.
Unless
we
do
something
with
the
current
PWSA
administration.
My
neighbors
are
not
here
as
they're
still
dealing
with
the
flood
in
the
sewage
and
the
cleanup
from
Saturday.
J
We
are
here
on
a
number
of
home
impacted
on
our
street.
This
rain
event
is
increasing.
We
are
not
just
talking
about
July
6
2009
teen,
but
how
about
June?
20Th
2018,
October,
2nd
2018
October
4th
2018
October
6th
2018,
May
29th
2009
teen
in
July,
6
2009,
teen
I
can
go
on
and
on,
but
I
know
that
I
only
have
3
minutes
and
I
appreciate.
J
The
extra
two
water
literally
is
shooting
out
of
the
manholes
on
our
street
every
rain
event,
even
rain
events
that
none
of
us
hear
about
because
it
doesn't
make
the
news
in
any
other
neighborhood.
We
understand
big,
larger
rain
events,
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
here
and
by
the
way
we
live
nowhere
near
water.
We
are
up
on
a
hill.
Ok,
more
homes
are
getting
more
flooding
on
more
sewage
and
the
volumes
are
increasing.
J
The
families
are
losing
thousands
of
dollars,
replacing
furnaces
dryers,
hot-water
heaters,
the
damaging
the
every
single
year
were
replacing
that
our
homes
are
at
risk
and
our
lives
are
at
risk.
On,
June,
20th,
2018,
mr.
Paulus
fell.
Why
trying
to
turn
off
the
electricity
into
his
flooding
home?
He
broke
three
ribs.
What
if
he
had
hit
his
head,
he
could
have
dried
in
his
own.
Damn
house.
Excuse
me
on
July
6,
2009,
teen,
Tim
and
Denise
nutters
dryers,
dislodged
from
by
the
floodwaters
and
their
carbon
monoxide
detectors,
went
off.
J
Fortunately,
we
had
another
neighbor
who,
because
they
weren't
home,
who
actually
was
able
to
get
in
the
home
and
turn
off
the
gas,
the
whole
house
could
have
blown.
Does
someone
have
to
die?
What
would
take
4
P
wasa
to
accept
responsibility
for
their
1.7
million
dollar?
Failure
at
the
red
oak
casein
Avenue
project?
They
literally
put
a
septic
tank
in
front
of
our
homes.
Since
this
projects
inception
in
2015,
we
have
been
given
false
hopes,
lies
and
broken
promises.
We
have
to
fight
every
step
of
the
way,
even
to
get
a
sandbag.
J
We
have
on
June
4th
Bob,
whiner,
sat
in
Gina's
home
and
told
us.
The
system
is
working
as
designed,
Teresa
you
and
Kim
were
there.
You
heard
it
yourself.
We
have
literally
ten
inch
curbs
in
front
of
our
home
on
Saturday,
yet
still
our
neighbors
homes
had
anywhere
from
three
to
five
feet
of
water.
One
of
them
actually
has
a
sub
pump
that
pumps
out
10,000
gallons
of
water
a
minute
what
had
happened
had
he
not
had
that
we
should
not
have
to
live
like
this.
We
have
sandbags
lining
our
house
every
single
day.
B
K
Yes,
my
name
is
Gina
Paulus
and
I'm,
also
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
fellow
residents
on
Hasen
Avenue,
and
we
will
no
longer
accept
the
band-aid
fixes
given
to
us
by
the
PWSA
due
to
their
failed
project.
The
96
inch
tank
underground
is
failing,
and
when
concerned
citizens
brought
this
up
at
the
meeting
in
my
home
on
June
4th
mr.
K
remar
responded
by
saying
the
underground
system
is
working
as
designed,
we
knew
that
raising
curbs
would
not
help
us
and
our
concerns
came
to
fruition
on
Saturday
July
6
2019,
when
I
stood
alone,
helpless
on
my
front
door
and
watch
to
my
neighbor's
driveways
fill
with
water
like
a
swimming
pool,
and
there
was
nothing
I
could
do.
I
was
home
by
myself.
All
the
other
neighbors
were
out
of
town
for
the
fourth
of
July
weekend
and
I
tried
to
go
outside
several
times
to
move
sandbags
to
protect
their
homes.
K
Wow
meantime,
my
basement
and
laundry
room
are
filling
with
raw
sewage
and
I
watched
the
end
of
my
street
turn
into
a
lake
for
now,
the
fourth
time
in
a
little
over
a
year,
PWSA
merely
places
blame
on
anyone
or
anything
but
themselves
not
to
mention
are
sagging
laterals,
sunken
driveways
and
hidden
underground
streams,
and
also
they
like
to
billion
home
builders
from
the
1950s.
So
I
implore
you
to
vote
now
for
the
PWSA
administration,
a
big
No.
B
L
I'm
going
to
I
just
want
to
thank
you
both
for
coming
down.
I
know
that
you
have
been
dealing
with
this
I
mentioned
the
comments
earlier
today
for
six
years,
and
you
know
we
hear
groups
coming
down
and
speaking
for
the
public
and
wanting
a
public
utility.
You
need
to
also
talk
for
the
public
and
the
people
that
are
being
affected
in
a
negative
way.
I
obviously
want
to
keep
PW
say:
public
I
want
to
keep
it
in
the
public
hands.
L
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have,
because
without
it
being
public,
you
don't
have
the
voice,
and
so
far
I
have
been
your
voice
and
the
only
voice.
That's
that's
that's
fought
for
this
community,
and
now
we
have
a
chief
of
staff.
Gilman
who's
been
been
doing
some
stuff
in
councilman
gross
over
the
weekend
who
helped
us,
and
so
without
us.
You
wouldn't
have
that
that
that
voice,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
the
reason
why
I
would
be
supportive
of
that.
L
But
I
do
think
that
when
we
hear
people
talking
about
it,
they
need
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
there
are
people
that
are
suffering
like
you
and
that
we
need
a
solution
and
I
even
said
today.
Maybe
we
should
hold
this
until
there
is
a
solution
in
place
for
red
oak
and
hasten
a
real
solution,
and
not
just
to
look.
We
talked
about
green
infrastructure
and
I'm,
a
huge
fan
of
green
infrastructure
I'm
the
way
I
talk
about
this
all
the
time.
L
I
was
the
one
who
brought
it
to
the
attention
of
alkis
and
it's
something
that
we
needed
to
do
when
I
was
a
board
member
there
and
I.
Let
us
come
here
publicly
and
spoke
about
my
my
bringing
it
to
the
al-qassam
board,
but
when
it's
not
working,
we
have
to
admit
it.
We
cannot
jeopardize
a
life
because
it's
not
working.
We've
had
homes
flooded
where
children
were
sleeping
in
game
rooms
and
the
floodwaters
became
so
high
if
the
if
they
were
had,
if
their
parents
didn't
get
them
out
of
there.
L
L
We
need
somebody
to
get
in
there
and
look
and
see
what's
happening
because
that
was
done
without
permits
and
there's
also
another
green
infrastructure
project
on
banks,
Ville
Road
and
you
saw
the
flooding
on
the
news,
cut
the
news
coverage
on
banks,
Ville
Road,
another
green
infrastructure
project.
There
may
be
a
time
where
you
have
to
do
a
combination,
a
green
and
grey
infrastructure.
L
There
may
be
a
time
where
green
infrastructure
is
not
possible
and
do
it
where
it
is
possible,
but
when
it's
not
possible,
we
need
to
look
outside
the
box
and
figure
out
what
the
problem
is.
You
just
can't
keep
ignoring
it
year
after
year
time
after
time,
these
people
work
their
wit's
and
they're
ready
to
have
nervous
breakdowns
over
this,
and
they
can't
imagine
these
are
the
very
people
that
have
helped
our
special
education.
Children
run
it
as
a
teacher
at
Pioneer,
a
beloved
teacher,
Piner
school.
L
You
know
Gina
and
her
husband.
They
he
works
for
DPW.
We
have
a
guy
who
worked
for
as
a
medic.
That
list
goes
on
and
on
the
Attorney
General
has
somebody
there
on
that
street,
a
police
officer
who
all
have
helped
people
in
crisis,
and
yet
they
can't
get
any
help.
I
mean
it's
disgusting,
what's
happening
there
and
I.
M
Councilman
Smith's,
both
on
the
board
and
council
until
we
find
a
solution,
we've
all
shared
earlier
today,
a
lot
of
storm
water
and
flooding
issues.
I
can't
fail
to
mention
Jorgen
way
and
my
own
district
in
Ali,
that
is
flooding
and
flooding
people's
basements
I
know
that
each
council
member
can
probably
relate
issues
where
the
system
does
isn't
working
right
there
and
we
need
to
focus
on
those
places
that
are
in
crisis
right
and
put
the
resources
into
fixing
them.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
coming
down.
M
It's
very
important
I
did
invite
the
other
board
members
as
well.
Thank
you
to
chairman
legarre
for
coming
down.
It's
very
I
think
it's
very
important
for
board
members
of
authorities
and
not
just
help
some
people
to
hear
directly
from
the
voices,
and
so
it's
very
important
that
you
shared
and
I
will
try
to
make
sure
that
they
watch
at
least
your
testimony
since
they
weren't
here
in
person
can.
L
I
shoot
it
can
I
also
add
to
that.
I
wish
you'd
make
sure
that
they
get
a
response.
During
the
meeting
they'll
ask
me:
we
had
in
Gina's,
beautiful
home.
That's
flooded
all
the
time.
It
was
that
there
was
a
possibility
of
PwC
buying
out
some
of
the
homes,
because
there
may
not
be
a
solution,
so
they
may
buy
out
the
some
of
them.
So
you
told
them
if
you're
interest,
to
send
an
email,
so
they
did
and
they
haven't
heard
back.
It's
been
what
almost
a
month
I'm.
N
So
I
couldn't
help
myself,
but
to
jump
out
of
the
car.
I
saw
you
know
and
asked,
because
I
obviously
have
the
same
problems
in
many
many
different
areas.
I
will
say
this
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
to
blame,
PWSA,
I,
really
don't
I,
think
they've
been
making
an
effort
in
my
district
and
I
see
what
they've
done
up
there.
You
know
I
mean
they
put
a
lot
of
money
into
that
place.
I
saw
the
brand-new
curbs
and
you
know
everything
that
they're
doing
there.
Okay,
maybe
it's
not
right.
Maybe
it's
not
the
right
answer.
N
D
N
There's
no,
no
so
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
the
whole
situation
there.
Okay,
in
fairness,
I,
don't
know
the
whole
situation,
but
what
I
will
say
is
PWSA.
They
are
making
an
attempt
they
are
trying
to
the
best
of
their
abilities.
I've
seen
it
in
my
district,
where
that
you
know
that
milling
the
street,
putting
curbs
all
that
that
keeps
failing
call
climate
change,
call
it
the
pump
system
you
have
underneath
the
ground.
I
think
the
problem
is
nobody's
quite
sure
what
the
problem
is.
N
That's
what
I
think
the
problem
is
so
I've
seen
the
devastation
up
there,
I
I,
just
I
feel
for
you
what
a
way
to
live,
what
it
would
a
terrible
way
to
live
every
time
it
rains
and
every
time
that
forecast
calls
for
Hart
thunderstorms,
but
but
I'm
just
there
to
say
you
know,
PWSA
is
making
the
effort
I
believe
they
want
to.
You
know
solve
these
problems.
I
just
think
they're
difficult
problems,
I
think
there
are
no
easy
answers
for
them.