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Description
Department of Public Works
A
So
I
want
to
start
just
by
saying
you
know:
it's
public
works
it's
in
front
of
us
today
and
before
I
turn
it
over
to
director
urbanic.
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
to
our
director
director.
You
know:
you've
been
fantastic
through
this
you're,
the
unsung
hero
through
all
these
hearings.
You're
you
sit
in
on
everyone.
A
You
really
earn
your
money
over
these
six
or
eight
or
12
weeks,
whatever
it
seems
like
so
so
I
just
want
to
recognize
you
and
your
office
not
only
for
attending
these,
but
many
times
I'll.
Ask
questions
during
these
meetings
in
your
office.
I
don't
even
ask
for
a
response,
but
your
office
is
getting
back
to
me
with
the
responses.
So
so
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
your
professionalism
and
what
you
do
at
your
job,
and
I
will
not
turn
it
over
to
you
to
give
us
the
summary.
A
B
Well,
I
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
I
couldn't
do
any
of
this
without
our
budget
manager,
mike
strelik
who's
been
hard
at
work,
helping
to
prepare
all
this
information
for
us
we're
talking
about
the
department
of
public
works
today,
the
mission
of
the
department
of
public
works
is
to
maintain
the
city's
asset
related
to
parks,
facilities,
rehabilitating
public
structures,
provide
support
to
other
departments,
administer
a
solid
waste
and
recycling
system
that
promotes
a
litter-free
environment
and
ensure
public
safety.
B
B
Now
let
me
switch
to
the
fiscal
one
and
please
mind
my
slowness
this
morning
at
a
power
outage
this
morning
and
sort
of
set
me
back.
The
department
of
public
works
as
a
whole
for
all
the
bureaus.
The
budget
is
52
million,
27
000,
that's
a
decrease
of
what
was
anticipated
in
the
20
25
year,
plan
of
12
000
or
12
million
689
000.
That's
a
decrease
of
19.6
percent.
B
The
department
of
public
works
generates
a
number
of
general
fund
revenues
which
is
important
to
us,
the
largest
of
which
is
the
liquid
fuels
fund
of
over
four
million
dollars
projected
for
this
year.
There's
a
reimbursement
from
rad
there's
picnic
and
ball
field
permits
of
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Public
works.
B
It's
different
permits.
Thirty
eight
thousand
dollars:
that's
a
reduction
there
for
this
year;
maintenance
revenues
of
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It's
a
equalization
payment
for
the
city,
county
building
from
the
county,
refuse
dumpster,
permit
fees,
79,
000,
temporary,
refuse,
dumpster
fees,
126,
000,
commonwealth
recycling
grant
is
315
000
and
then
we're
reimbursed
for
doing
wilkinsburg's,
trash
collection
and
that's
952
000
and
that's
by
contract.
B
B
B
That's
two
or
three
positions:
next
I'll
switch
to
environmental
services,
the
total
budget
for
environmental
services.
Out
of
that
52
million,
is
16
million
161
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
decrease
of
what
was
anticipated
in
the
five-year
plan,
up
2.4
million
dollars
or
13.4
total
full-time
positions;
178.
B
That's
the
equivalent
of
reducing
the
budget
by
five
employees,
and
this
is
without
the
seven
one
july,
first
workforce
reduction
that
workforce
reduction
will
be
one
million.
Fifty
five
thousand
dollars,
based
on
an
average
of
salaries
and
benefits
of
the
178
full-time
position
that
equals
the
elimination
of
36
employees.
B
Environmental
services
also
has
a
capital
acquisition
plan
that
we
spoke
about
during
the
ela.
The
plans
for
two
refuse
packers
that
cost
the
772
000
and
one
recycling
packer
the
cost
of
386
000.
The
bureau
has
a
single
trust
fund.
The
solid
waste
trust
fund
due
to
the
collapse
of
the
recycling
market.
This
fund
has
virtually
been
eliminated.
B
Non-Salary
expenditures
are
reduced
by
1
million
275
000
or
34
percent.
The
clean
pittsburgh
commission,
55
000,
has
been
eliminated.
I
think
that's
the
total
amount,
the
city
cuts
program,
300
000,
has
also
been
eliminated:
maintenance
reduced
by
fifty
thousand
dollars.
This
affects
freedom,
corner
and
field
turf
at
river
riverview
and
schenley
landscaping
and
tree
removal
has
been
reduced
by
two
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
B
This
will
affect
the
third
division,
building,
rent
transportation
and
mileage
reimbursement
reduced
by
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars,
or
seventy
two
percent
anticipating
this
budget
for
the
july
1st
workforce
reduction,
a
reduction
of
one
million
six
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
based
on
the
average
salary
benefits
that
equals
the
elimination
of
51
employees,
capital
equipment
acquisition.
The
la
draft
plan
spoke
of
one
forestry
bucket
truck
cost
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
B
And
with
that
we'll
go
to
facilities,
department,
public
works,
bureau
of
facilities,
total
budget
of
that
52
million
dollars
is
16
million
64
000,
that's
a
decrease
of
what
was
anticipated
in
the
five-year
plan
of
4.7
million
or
23
total
full-time
position.
75.
It's
a
reduction
in
that
first,
six
months
of
16..
B
There's
elimination
of
one
carpentry
foreign,
eliminating
a
plumbing
maintenance,
foreman
and
elimination
of
a
foreman
there's,
also
going
to
be
the
elimination
of
the
custodial
work
supervisor
eliminate
three
of
the
seven
electricians
eliminate
four
of
the
six
plumbers
eliminate
two
of
the
three
brick
layers
eliminate
one
of
the
three
iron
workers
eliminate
one
of
six
hvac
technicians
eliminate
one
of
four
laborers
custodian
heavy
transferred
to
operations,
there's
no
net
reduction.
There,
non-salary
expenditures
are
reduced
by
two
million
nine
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
dollars
or
twenty
one
percent.
B
This
slide
item
repairs
inside
facilities
such
as
doors,
glass,
hvac,
water,
fountains,
etc.
Electric
reduced
by
1.6
million
or
30
percent,
the
out
years
of
electricity
is
also
reduced
by
a
further
million
dollars,
reflects
savings
from
the
street
lighting
capital
project
materials
are
reduced
by
246
thousand
dollars.
This
may
be
offset
by
the
new
capital
line
item
for
energy
efficiency
upgrades
and
restroom
upgrades.
B
The
baba
connor
golf
course:
44
000
in
bond
funds
facility
improvements
facilities
in
general,
595
000
in
cdbg;
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
bond
for
a
total
of
one
million;
two
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
facility
improvements,
public
safety
facilities,
one
million
eight
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
bond
funds.
That's
all
facility
improvements,
recreation
and
senior
centers,
there's
five
million
dollars
in
bond
funds
and
7.5
million
in
matching
funds
for
a
total
of
12
12
million.
B
Ninety
one
thousand
dollars
facility
improvements
regarding
sports
facilities,
forty
four
hundred
and
eighty
six
thousand
in
bond
funds
and
four
hundred
eleven
thousand
in
matching
funds
for
a
total
of
eight
hundred.
Ninety
eight
thousand
parks,
reconstruction,
seven
million
four
hundred
and
fifty
three
thousand
dollars
in
bond
funds.
Matching
funds
are
four
point:
eight
million
for
a
total
of
12.2
million
dollars
for
parts;
reconstruction
parks,
reconstruction
in
the
regional
asset,
district
parks,
978,
000
of
regional
asset
district
funds
play
area
improvements.
B
We
have
500
000
in
bond
slated
and
in
splash
zones,
1.2
million
dollars
in
bond
funds
that
gives
the
total
cdbg
projects
598
000
total
bond
being
spent
17
million,
209
000
and
matching
funds
of
13
million
780
000
for
total
this
facilities,
budget
of
thirty
one
million
five
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars.
If
you
look
down
at
the
others,
and
these
are
located
throughout
the
capital
budget,
I
don't
wanna
have
to
read
them.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
director
urbanic,
as
as
always
before
we
begin.
I
want
to
point
out
what
I
consider
the
five
star
team.
That's
here
today.
It's
consists
of
myself,
council,
representative,
fourth
district
councilwoman,
strasberger,
councilwoman
gross
councilman
bobby
wilson
and
councilwoman
teresa
kill
smith.
I
don't
believe
anybody
else
is
on
if
I'm
wrong,
please
chime
in
so
okay,
and
I
say
that
jokingly
about
five
star,
but
I
mean
that
sincerely
I
I
do
you
know
it
really
is,
and
this
is
not
a
knock.
A
A
C
A
Soon
he's
had
a
long,
lustrous
career
here
at
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
I
just
want
to
make
one
quick
comment.
You
know
he
I
first
of
all.
Madam
president,
thank
you
for
putting
me
up
here.
I
think
you
put
me
in
the
right
department.
I
really
do
much
of
what
mr
gable
does
and
what
I
do
in
my
personal
life
seems
to
mirror
each
other
him
on
a
much
larger
scale.
A
Oh
good,
good,
good
yeah,
I
love
being
there
there's
many
things
to
tout
for
mr
gable
here.
But
I'll
say
this:
if
anybody
saw
him
the
other
night,
you
know
before
the
snowstorm.
This
is
the
way
I
want
my
director.
Okay,
they
got
the
camera
and
many
times
this
time
of
year.
I
wake
up
and
I
look
out
and
I
see
snow
and
I
think
to
myself
I'm
glad
I'm
not
mike
gable
today,
because
you
know
you
know
he
gets
a
lot
of
attention
this
time
of
year,
but
the.
D
A
A
F
Thank
you
councilman
and
thank
you
for
all
the
nice
compliments
and
I
hope
everybody
only
had
a
few
complaints
about
our
first
winter
weather
event.
There
will
be
more
to
come,
but
I
think
I
think
our
guys
did
a
great
job
and
our
team
is
very
good
and
I
am
very
confident
about
what
they
can
do
with
me
on
this
call.
Virtual
meeting
today
is
marcel
newman
assistant,
director
of
administration
and
dave
osterman,
who
is
my
manager
of
personnel
of
finance?
F
F
Bill
crean
is
the
superintendent
of
streets,
tom
pollins,
superintendent
of
parks,
rick
de
carlos
and
superintendent
of
facilities
and
sean
weigle
is
the
superintendent
in
environmental
services.
What
I
usually
do
in
the
council
hearing
is,
if
you
don't
mind,
if
you
can
indulge
me,
I
like
to
make
a
few
comments
and
also
go
over
a
few.
F
You
know
we
continue
to
incorporate
administrative
and
operational
improvements,
even
with
the
personnel
turnover
we
have
experienced
the
past
seven
years
since
2014
to
the
present
we
have
hired
or
promoted
600
460
employees,
while
ending
employment
with
464
employees.
So
that's
an
average
of
66
in
and
66
out.
It's
a
you
know,
a
constant
revolving
door,
basically
requiring
the
need
for
training,
etc,
etc,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
that.
Historical
and
institutional
knowledge
goes
out
the
door.
It's
not
coming
back
in
the
door.
F
F
F
We
continue
to
improve
the
skills
and
knowledge
of
our
employees,
having
sent
297
employees
to
various
training
opportunities,
and
I
will
say
that
that's
continued,
not
in
a
face-to-face
or
an
actual
site,
but
they've
been
participating
very
same
way.
Everybody
is
now
virtually
so
we're
still
continuing
to
provide
that
training
to
our
employees
and
they're
participating
willfully.
F
In
our
bureau
of
facilities,
the
architecture
division
completed
68
construction
projects,
as
noted
following
fine
view
park,
whiteman
park
and
townsend
park
were
all
completely
renovated.
Playgrounds
at
baxter
park,
mckinley
park,
niagara
park
and
arlington
park
were
renovated,
modular
structures
and
or
the
safety
surface.
New
spray
feature
was
installed
at
nelson
mandela.
Peace
park,
new
fitness
stations
were
installed
in
highland
park
and
frick
park.
Replacing
the
old,
obsolete
parkour
stations
that
have
been
there
since
the
70s
new
ada
bleachers
were
installed
at
the
deck
hockey
courts
at
banksville
park.
F
Paul
j
schiller
ii
memorial
park
and
brookline
park,
new
led
ball
field
lighting
was
installed
at
westwood
park,
chadwick
park
and
phelps
park.
New
led
parking
lot.
Lighting
was
installed
at
brookline
memorial
park,
courts
were
repaired
and
resurfaced
at
mount
washington
park,
phillips
park,
strattmore
park,
grandville
park,
larmer
park,
mcbride
park,
mellon
park
and
garland
park.
New
hvac
was
installed
at
the
south
side.
Market
house
moves
to
fire
stations,
31
and
8
medic
10
police
zone
4,
slash
fire
station
18.
F
The
vietnam
vets
pavilion
in
shinley
park,
the
rhododendron
shelter
in
highland
park,
mcgee
recreation
and
senior
citizen
center,
and
the
hazelwood
senior
citizen
center
replaced
the
access
apron
at
fire
station
29
and
insisted
in
the
department
of
renovation
and
performance
modernizing
data,
wiring
and
city
county
billing,
which
is
currently
an
ongoing
project.
Right
now.
F
Doing
it
completed
the
exterior
painting
of
several
pool
bath
houses,
including
the
highland
park,
pool
building,
saving
sixty
thousand
against
the
bid
contractual
services
performing
it
and
completely
rebuilt
the
boiler
for
police
76
saving,
25
000
against
the
big
contractual
services
performing
it.
The
construction
division
addressed
638
tasks
across
all
trades
and
assets.
Some
noted
projects
are
as
follows:
they
completely
rebuilt
the
steps
along
rutledge
street
and
guylin
street,
complete
concrete
repair
of
the
anderson
pedestrian
bridge
in
shinley
park
reconstructed
for
the
umpteenth
time.
F
The
welcome
to
bloomfield
sign
at
liberty
avenue
in
the
bloomfield
bridge.
I
think
that
thing
has
been
hit
three
times
and
we've
replaced
at
all
times
and
installed
concrete
pads
for
the
ada
bleachers
previously
identified
and
performed
laser
grading
on
eleven
infields
at
west
penn,
vannucci,
arlington,
moore
devlin,
westwood,
both
fields
and
herschel,
and
three
fields
at
melbourne
parks
the
operations
street
operations.
F
By
way
of
a
reorganization
bid,
we
reduced
the
number
of
divisions
from
six
to
five,
but
allows
us
to
have
an
almost
equal
amount
of
square
miles:
street
maintenance
miles
and
personnel
in
each
division.
In
the
past
there
was
one
division
that
had
15
square
miles
while
another
had
less
than
three
square
miles.
F
The
world
the
rollout
started
on
october,
12th
and
and
today
has
been
hugely
successful,
but
we
expect
to
add
some
additional
resources
to
meet
the
expected
needs
in
the
spring
and
summer
of
2021.
and
to
touch
touching
that
a
little
bit
since
it
has
gone
on
since
october
12th.
We
have
not
seen
no
increase
at
all
in
the
311
calls
about
empty
and
litter.
Receptacles.
F
Just
understand
that
in
the
past
we
had
25
employees
doing
that
in
the
past.
Whereas
now
we
have
six
employees
doing
it
we're
a
little
bit
short
based
on
the
numbers.
So
we're
going
to
increase
another
crew
of
two
and
we
will
probably
have
a
temporary
crew
in
the
spring
and
summer
to
handle
the
additional
receptacles
that
will
meet
a
higher
fill
criteria.
F
So
basically,
six
employees
to
ten
doing
the
work
of
what
was
done
stunned
by
25
employees
and
the
use
of
technology
has
been
a
big
aid
in
doing
that
in
the
parks
operations.
We've
converted,
bald
diamonds
at
sullivan
park
and
work
more
park
to
rectangular
fields,
to
accommodate
sports
played
on
those
types
of
fields
that
being
soccer
football,
lacrosse
ultimate
frisbee.
Anything
that
can
be
played
on
a
rectangular
field,
ornamental
fences
at
moore
park
and
emerald
view
park,
grandview
avenue
were
painted
electrostatically
and
in
cooperation
with
the
pa.
F
Fish
and
boat
commission
continue
to
have
highland
park
lake
carnegie
stocked
with
catfish
bass
and
bluegill,
to
make
it
a
desirable
fishing
location
in
the
inner
city
and
environmental
services
collected
15
000
tons
of
recycling
again.
This
is
extrapolated
to
out
to
the
rest
of
the
year
since
we
have
another
three
weeks
to
go.
F
That's
not
everything,
but
that's
a
highlight
of
each
of
the
bureaus
and
areas
of
some
of
the
highlights
and
projects
and
accomplishments
that
they're
very
proud
of.
I
could
go
on
for
another
hour,
probably,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
I'll
be
finished
and
I'll
leave
it
open
for
council's
questions.
A
F
F
Oh,
I
I
did
it
under
the
operation
street
operations.
I
said
that
working
with
dpw
bureau
facilities,
architecture
on
what
will
be
the
new
fourth
division
campus
on
avenue,
with
expected
groundbreaking
in
early
2021..
So
you
know,
I
call
it
a
campus
rather
than
a
division,
because
it's
going
to
be
more
than
just
one
building,
it's
going
to
be
a
series
of
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
provide
us
with
a
lot
of
assets
to
take
care
of
the
residents
in
the
in
that
fourth
division.
A
Absolutely
I'm
going
to
continue
to
call
it
a
campus.
I
love
the
word.
It
is
true.
It
is
emt
along
with
public
works
and
it
will
be.
It
will
be
a
beautiful
campus,
so
so
with
that
councilman
wilson.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'm
gonna
do.
Ladies
first,
today,
okay
and
if
there's
any
questions,
we
will
start
with
how
about
councilwoman,
erica
strasbarger.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
director,
gable,
marcel
and
your
whole
team
for
being
here
today.
I
I
really
appreciate
you
walking
us
through
your
accomplishments
for
2020,
because
I
know
that's
only
a
fraction
of
what
you've
done,
but
even
so
it
really
gives
us
a
sense
of
everything
that
you've
accomplished.
I
mean
you've,
you
do
so
much
and
fortunately
a
lot
of
it's
visible.
I
think
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
work
that
that
a
lot
of
departments
here
in
the
city
do
is
a
little
invisible.
G
What
you
do
is
visible,
but
we
only
get
to
see
oftentimes
what
happens
in
our
own
districts
or
what
has
a
press
release?
You
know
that
comes
out
from
the
mayor's
office,
so
this
really
gives
me
a
sense
of
of
how
hard
you
all
work
and
everything
that
you
do,
and
I
appreciate
it.
I
guess
you
know.
Maybe
I'll
have
other
questions
after
other
council
members
ask
theirs,
but
I'm
curious.
G
Just
as
a
quick
aside,
it
shouldn't
go
without
noting
that
I
did
notice
how
much
you
were
able
to
save
the
save
the
the
money
or
save
this
city
and
taxpayer
dollars
by
taking
a
lot
of
projects
in-house
rather
than
bidding
them
out
and
wanted
didn't
want
that
to
go
unsaid
either
that
you
know.
We
appreciate
that
in
times
of
fiscal
austerity
like
we're
experiencing
again
now
we
really
need
to
pinch
pennies
and-
and
you
do
that
so
well
with
your
your
talented
staff.
G
F
F
It's
roughly
25
employees
somewhat
of
a
different
parameter
than
the
streets,
but
still
25
employees
performing
that
task,
and
if
we
believe
that,
if
we
do
that
in
the
parks,
we're
going
to
see
a
similar
savings
in
terms
of
personnel,
they're
going
to
be
able
to
go
and
do
other
projects
that
they
may
nev
may
not
have
done
in
parks,
for
you
know,
50
years
or
30
years
or
whatever
so
on
the
streets.
Specifically,
it's
just
simply
about
you
know
the
things
that
come
to
mind
our
pothole
patching
vegetation
control.
G
That's
great,
and
I
know
that
both
pothole
patching
and
clean
and
leans
and
vegetation
control,
but
especially,
I
think
clean
new
liens
and
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
are
such
a
priority.
So
that's
that's
helpful
to
keep
in
mind.
I
I
actually
don't
have
too
many
questions
right
now,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues
and
I
might
think
of
some
others
for
second
round,
but
but
thank
you
again.
G
A
H
H
H
F
But
in
all
honesty,
there's
never
a
good
time.
We
obviously
eliminated
vacancies
rather
than
actually
physically
laying
anybody
off,
and
we
have
had
a
lot
of
vacancies
in
the
department
in
all
bureaus
some
more
than
others.
But
let
me
let
me
just
go
into
each
bureau
and
try
to
see
if
I
can
frame
it.
I
think
the
streets
ops
is
not
going
to
be
affected
and
and
for
the
reason
I
spoke
about
the
censored
litter
receptacles,
there's
a
there's,
a
sort
of
a
savings
there
per
se
that
they
probably
won't
see
an
impact.
F
Now
I
will
have
a
little
impact
on
the
parks
because
some
of
the
vacancies
there,
the
labor
vacancies-
are
the
actual
park
laborers.
But
if
there's
a
good
time
for
someone
you
know
to
not
be
in
the
plan,
I
mean
the
parks
thin
down
in
terms
of
personnel
over
the
holidays
over
the
winter
and
early
winter
because
of
in
january,
because
of
vacations
that
they
refrain
from
taking
in
the
summer
to
say
and
cut
the
grass
and
take
care
of
the
shelters
and
do
they
take
care
of
the
playground.
F
F
F
F
H
F
Can
try
to
look
up
in
the
budget,
and
I
do
know
that
pwsa
had
plumbing
vacancies
also
and
they
paid
five
dollars
more
an
hour.
They
weren't
getting
people
when
we
approached
the
union
about
having
an
apprenticeship,
they
said.
Well,
you
you'd
have
to.
We
can
give
you
apprentices,
but
they'd
have
to
make
this
amount
of
money,
which,
in
turn
was
more
than
our
plumber,
that
we.
F
H
H
To
go
on
like
this
right,
if
you
know
ten
years
ago
five
years
ago,
but
we
can't
keep
going
on,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
maintenance.
That's
that's
what
deferred
maintenance
is
right
and
it
takes
its
toll
and
we
used
to
do
deferred
maintenance
because
you
know,
let's
say
20
years
ago,
because
we
we
didn't,
have
those
position
money
to
pay
those
positions
at
all,
but
now
we
do
and
we
can
make
choices
to
fill
them,
but
it's
a
competitive
environment.
I
mean
that's
it.
H
F
Sure,
looking
up
here
now
this
year,
our
plumbers
make
25
38
an
hour.
My
guess
is
that
pwsa,
if
theirs,
is
five
dollars,
more
they're,
paying
their
plumber
positions,
thirty
dollars
and
the
union
came
in
and
said.
Well,
if
you
want
an
apprentice,
they
gotta
have
they're
gonna,
make
26
or
27
an
hour,
so
that
just
doesn't
work
paying
an
apprentice
more
than
your
actual
full-time
person.
So
there's
two
things
we
did
and
we
thought
it
was
beneficial
for
one
title,
but
not
the
other.
F
So
we
were,
we
actually
benefited
from
a
few.
We
got
electrician's
applications
and
they
kept
coming
in
and
we
actually
hired
a
few
more
electricians
as
a
result
of
that
it
didn't
pan
out
as
well
with
the
plumbers
and
again
we're
going
we
used
to.
In
the
past,
we
used
to
go
to
the
union
halls
and
they'd
they'd
have
people
whatever
sitting
there
ready
to.
You
know
looking
for
work
and
that
just
hasn't
happened
and
that's
even
true.
It's
even
true.
F
As
far
down
as
the
laborer
we
used
to
go
to
the
union
hall
and
they'd,
give
us
30
names.
They
hardly
give
us
anybody
now.
So
it's
I
don't
know
why.
I
can't
think
that
everybody's
at
the
cracker
plant,
but
there
are
plumbers
and
there
are
electricians,
but
I
believe
that
they're
outside
of
the
city
in
an
abundance
and
they're
already
settled
in
a
neighbor
in
a
township,
a
borough
whatever
and
they're
not
going
to
pick
up
their
family
and
it's.
H
H
H
So
that's
the
difference
between
then
and
now,
because
I
hear
it
from
young
people
who
have
residency
requirements
that
they're
really
struggling
to
find
like
you
know,
they're
ready
to
buy
a
house,
and
you
know
where
they
buy
house
where
they
buy
a
house
that
isn't
kind
of
falling
down
at
their
the
price
point
they
can
afford.
So
it's
the
some
people
have
words
right
now.
That
kind
of,
like
I
forget
what
it
is
mid-range,
is
also
a
point
of
pressure
right.
So
there's
we're
running
into
that.
H
H
So
I
mean
I
think,
we're
really
beginning
to
see
that,
and
I
would
like
to
see
council
kind
of
take
that
on
more
directly,
because
I
experienced
it
too,
when
I
was
at
pwsa
same
issue.
We
actually,
I
voted
no,
but
the
board
voted
to
eliminate
the
residency
requirement
for
some
of
the
upper
management
because
they
could
not
fill
those
positions
at
the
you
know
amount
that
we
were
paying.
H
So
it's
it's
a
different
moment
that
you
know
where
there
was
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city
20
30
years
ago,
especially
guess
what
we're
you
know.
The
housing
is
you're
competing
against
very
well
paid
thousands
of
very
well
paid.
You
know,
robotics
engineers,
artificial
intelligence
engineers,
software
engineers
that
have
really
filled
up
a
lot
of
space,
which
is
good
for
our
tax
base,
which
is
good
for
the
region.
H
But
what
about
the
middle
class
and
and
the
working
class
in
the
city
we
really
have
to
to
tackle
both
of
those
things
too.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
digression,
but
thank
you
for
having
those
numbers.
I
think
that
we
we
can't
just
keep
going
on
saying
like
well.
If
we
just
you
know,
these
positions
are
just
going
to
stay
empty.
F
F
Only
recently
have
we
had
some
missed
rubbish
that
we
in
a
neighborhood
that
we've
had
to
pick
up
the
next
day.
We
have
supplemented
environmental
services
with
both
our
seasonal
employees
and
actually
have
temporarily
assigned
some
of
our
lower
senior
laborers
down
there
to
help
them
it's
not
about
driving
it's
not
about
driving
the
packers.
F
So
you
know
we'll
be
looking
at
that
through
the
course
of
the
next
year
and
through
contract
negotiations,
but
the
idea
would
be
to
have
a
specific
number
of
truck
driver.
A's
truck
driver
b's
and
refuse
collection,
loaders,
so
you're
going
out
with
a
sort
of
a
team,
an
a
a
b
and
a
loader
on
their
solid
waste
route
and
an
a
or
a
b,
with
a
loader
doing
the
the
recycling.
So
you
know
environmental
services
will
take
on
a
different
look
down
the
road.
F
It's
not
going
to
be
the
numbers
it's
been
in
the
past
and
but
again
the
crews
have
done
a
marvelous
job.
Considering
all
the
issues
that
we've
had
recently
with
covid
and
through
march,
you
know,
we've
not
been
as
bad
as
public
safety
and
apartments,
but
environmental
services
has
had
a
few
outbreaks
recently,
but
we've
supplemented
them
with
other
dpw
personnel
and
we're
here
to
work
as
a
team.
H
I
appreciate
that,
honestly,
I
do
it's
really
it's
it's
it's
a
really
well
great
department,
especially
environmental
services
and
everybody.
I
just
want
to
call
attention
to
it,
so
the
public
really
appreciates
how
much
nicer
it
is
to
live
in
your
neighborhood.
When
you
know
the
garbage
is
going
to
get
picked
up
right
in
in
cities
where
that
fault
function
falls
apart,
it
kind
of
drags
everything
else
down
right.
It's
just
you
know
not
a
great
place
to
live
when
you,
when
the
garbage
isn't
getting
picked
up.
So
we
all.
Thank
you.
H
Can
I
ask
one
more
question,
mr
chair:
do
you
mind
if
I
take
a
little
more
time
I
have
worked
for
a
couple
of
years
with
I've
got
a
lot
of
constituent
interest
in
zero
waste.
This
the
city
has
its
own
zero
waste
plan
and
I've
got
a
lot
of
citizens
trying
to
figure
out
kind
of
how
to
even
take
the
their
own
steps
in
their
own
neighborhood.
We've
talked
about
composting.
H
I
can't
imagine
you
know
that
we
have
city
budget
to
shift
to
municipal
composting,
but
some
places
have
that
it
reduces,
as
I've
said
before.
In
other
budget
hearings,
it
reduces
the
tonnage,
so
it
can
reduce
the
amount
of
rubbish
or
waste
that
is
being
hauled
all
the
way
out
to
the
landfills,
which
is
not
just
good,
for
you,
know
the
planet,
but
it's
good
for
our
the
fuel
expenditures
that
we
have
the
amount
of
crews
that
you
would
need.
So
how
do
we
keep
waste
out
of
our
waste
stream?
H
F
H
D
Sure
so,
yes,
we
have
looked
into
it.
We
did
stall
a
little
bit
due
to
covet.
Just
trying
to
you
know,
get
our
crews
to
do
some
of
the
basic
work
that
we
have
right
now,
but
we
were
looking
into
locations,
and
I
think
that
is
the
primary
aspect
is
to
figure
out
what
locations
and
how
do
we
transport
it
and
how
do
we
get
the
public
to
participate?
D
H
If
we
take
baby
steps,
the
the
heath
community
garden
really
really
wants
some
compost
bins.
We
didn't
get
them
built
this
year,
there's
probably
policies
that
we
could
work
on
so
that
they
could
have
not
just
the
garden
waste
but
actually
like
the
desire
is
to
bring
kitchen
waste
right
to
drop
off
sites
like
that.
I
think
stanton
garden
is
probably
already
doing
that
and
yeah.
So
right,
beauty.
H
H
So
now
I've
got
my
kids
like
digging
holes
in
my
backyard
for
us
to
put
the
compost
in
and
then
you
cover
it
up.
So
you
make
sure
you
don't
have
any
rodents
or
unwelcome
guests.
We
do
a
lot.
We
just
compost
a
lot
and
you
can
really
significantly
say
see
because
that
we
have
fewer
trash
bags,
even
though
I've
got
two
kids,
a
husband
and
a
two
dogs
in
the
house,
so
it's
it
and
I
have
again.
I
have
a
lot
of
constituent
interest,
a
lot
of
resident
interest
in
doing
this.
H
There's
committees
about
how
to
do.
You
know
composting,
and
I
think
that
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we
can
at
least
start
like,
as
you
said
like
with
the
people
who
already
want
to
do
it.
Instead
of
training
the
people
who
don't
want
to
do
it
yet
right
kind
of
get
the
ball
rolling
and
spread
that
kind
of
interest
throughout
the
neighborhood.
So
I
really
look
forward
to
doing
that.
H
I
think
we
could
get
some
installations
in
by
snowmelt
right
by
spring,
and
let
me
not
forget
to
thank
you
both
for
your
willingness
to
put
up
with
my
city
farms
projects
this
year.
I
hope
you
notice
the
the
kind
of
photos
that
I
shared
with
council
a
few
weeks
ago,
I'll
send
them
to
you
where
especially
the
west,
the
west
penn
park
in
poland
hill,
where
they're
first
to
get
off
and
running
two
polar
hill
residents
who
have
previously
professionally
farmed.
H
They
had
grids
and
spreadsheets
and
plans
of
harvesting
and
planting,
and
it
was
beautiful,
they're
just
executed.
It
impressively
I'm
so
impressed
by
them
that
this
beautiful
bounty
off
these
tiny,
really
relatively
tiny
areas,
and
they
call
themselves
the
the
westbound
community
farm.
They
have
an
instagram
account.
You
can
find
if
you
want
to
follow
them
and
we're
really
looking
to
continue
that
into
the
spring.
In
fact,
we
might
be
talking
about
hoop
houses
and
things
like
that,
so
they
can
get
their
spring
planting
started
early.
H
H
You
know
adamant
and
urgent
about
getting
those
things
in,
because
planting
season
is
planting
season
in
pittsburgh
we
don't
have
a
super
long
growing
season
and
everybody
was
working
from
home
and
it
was
coveted
and
and
dbw
really
stepped
up,
and
I
I
I
really
I
know
the
residents
really
appreciate
it
and
if
I
haven't
shared
all
their
thank
you,
letters
with
you
I'll
be
sure
to
forward
them.
They're
very
excited
about
the
spring,
so
we
can
do
both
of
those
things.
I'm
I
will.
H
You
know
just
remind
you
that
I
part
of
the
the
benefit
of
doing
zero
waste
is
that
we
can
reduce.
As
I
said,
the
the
load
some
municipalities
have
when
they've
done.
100
municipal
compost
have
reduced
their
loads
to
the
landfills
by
half.
50
is
huge.
I
know
we
disagree
about
what
to
do
with
that.
The
fleet
the
workers
deserve
better.
The
budget
deserves
better
than
our
old
haulers.
I
forget
the
technical
name
for
the
the
garbage
trucks,
but
you
know
we.
H
The
goal,
I
think,
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
that
upgrade
in
that
fleet
and
and
do
it
just
have
not
be
costing
the
budget
so
much
with
our
loads
to
the
landfill
and
with
the
diesel
diesel
inefficient
diesel
fleet
that
we're
running,
but
I
I
could
stop
there.
Mr
chair,
I
think
I
think
I've
covered
all
my
questions.
Thank
you
for
being
able
to
answer
these
questions
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
next
year
and
director
gable.
Thank
you
for
all
your
service.
F
We
had
looked
at
that
many
many
years
back,
looking
for
a
reasonable
size
site
because,
as
you
know,
you
gotta
create
you
know
the
windrows
and
turn
it
over
a
lot,
and
so
it's
it's
not
necessarily
about
personnel.
A
few
number
of
people
can
handle
it
and
having
a
heavy
equipment
operator,
maybe
run
a
piece
of
equipment
that
you
know
kind
of
constantly
turns
the
windrows
over.
So
it's
been
looked
at
before
it's
just.
You
know
where
in
the
city
is
it
it's
almost
like
you
know:
where
do
you
put
a
public
works
division?
F
Where
does
somebody
want
a
public
works
division?
Where
does
somebody
want
to
compost
right?
So
if
there's
some
place
out
there,
large
enough,
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
You
know
as
big
as
a
ball
field.
Maybe
it
does,
but
you
know
if
there's
a
place
like
that,
we
would
certainly
entertain
where
we
could
do
the
composting,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
I
I
maybe
I
should
have
emphasized.
F
I
know
I
said
this
in
the
past
and
I
don't
have
the
current
figures
for
2020,
but
the
amount
of
solid
waste
that
we've
been
taking
to
the
landfill-
I
can
say
it
was
like
10
15
years
ago,
was
as
high
as
130
000
tons
and
I'm
willing
to
guess
that
with
this
year,
we're
probably
going
to
be
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood.
We
were
somewhere
in
the
mid
80s
dave.
F
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
figure
or
not,
but
we
were
somewhere
around
85
000
tons,
which
is
a
that's
a
really
significant
decrease.
So
that's
an
emphasis
that
the
you
know
the
residents
of
the
city
are
trying
to
do
other
things.
I
can't
say
that
our
recycling
has
increased
by
the
same
amount,
but
the
recycling
has
gone
up.
H
E
H
E
H
The
big
multi-units
is
not
in
your
tonnage,
though
right
so
just
hypothetically,
not
that
this
is
really
the
way
it
happened.
But
if
you
had
like
5
000
city
residents,
leave
their
houses
and
move
into
a
big
apartment
buildings
in
the
strip
district
that
tonnage
from
those
people
is
now
private.
Dumpster
services
that
isn't
part
of
our
tonnage.
H
H
Correct
yeah
again
not
the
way
that
actually
happened,
but
we
did.
We
do
have
a
shift
of
population
and
we'll
be
able
to
see
in
the
next
census.
I
think
more
clearly
how
many
people
are
living
in
those
multi-units.
We
could
probably
figure
it
out
some
other
way,
but
the
the
census
will
also
be
capturing
it
so
fascinating
yeah.
I
would
like
to
like
we'd
like
to
see
that
number
continue
to
go
down
again.
It
saves
us
money,
it
saves
the
planet
and
it
saves
a
lot
of
money
on
trucks
and
fuels
and
crews.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilwoman
gross
and,
as
usual,
you
bring
up
some
very
good
points
which
spawn
questions
from
me,
so
I
I'm
gonna
hold
off
on
those,
but
I
did
want
to
make
one
point
very
clear
and
the
director
gable
and
director
rixon
and
I
have
talked
about
this
offline-
the
lack
of
the
trades
and
is
at
almost
at
a
crisis
stage
for
us
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
it
really
stems
from
the
fact
that
we
can't
hire
outside
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
I
will
tell
you
personally,
I
believe,
not
only
is
it
the
pay
scale,
I
that's
that's,
first
and
foremost,
always
with
any
job.
I
believe
it's
the
pay
scale,
but
it's
also
you
know.
People
live
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
contractors
we're
dense.
We
have
so
much
work
around
us.
I
myself,
I
don't
travel
more
than
five
miles
from
my
my
shop,
but
people
live
in
newcastle
and
you
know
outside
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
who
would
love
to
have
these
jobs
that
we
can't
offer
into
at
this
point?
A
So
that
really
needs
to
change
when
we're
talking
about
having
one
plumber-
and
you
know
your
facility,
your
concession
stand
goes
down
at
your
ballpark
and,
and
you
know
they
need
water
to
cook
and
to
serve
people.
It's
really,
I
feel
at
a
crisis
stage,
the
trades
they
they
make
better
money
at
the
trades.
That's
why
they're
not
coming
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
It's
just
a
bare
fact
of
it,
but
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
Director
gable,
I'm
going
to
continue
working
on
that.
That
needs
to
change.
A
I
hope
to
work
with
this
council
and
finding
out
what
we
need
to
do
to
change
that.
So
so,
and
I
also
want
to
say
councilman
wilson,
he
had
a
ribbon
cutting,
so
he
had
to
leave.
He
said
he
will
catch
up
with
you
offline
with
the
questions
he
had
and
I
would
like
now
to
turn
it
over
to
our.
Madam
president,.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
coghill,
great
meeting,
thank
you
director
gable
and
to
your
team
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
your
service.
For
many
years
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
you
were
have
just
been
amazing
to
work
with,
and
you
know
when
I
first
came
out
when
you
first
came
in,
I
was
a
little
bit
nervous
how
our
relationship
was
going
to
go,
but
you've
been
nothing
but
a
gentleman
profession
and
a
very
professional
throughout
the
whole
time,
and
I'm
just
very
thankful
for
for
the
work
that
you've
done.
So.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
service.
With
that
said,
there's
a
couple
things
I
want
to
clarify
the
clean
and
lean
program
is
my
understanding
was
not
cut
at
all.
There
was
no
cuts
to
the
cleaning
lane,
in
fact
we're
talking
about
increasing
that
and
hiring
more
laborers
if
we
get
the
help
from
the
federal
government.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear
and
then
the
city
cuts
program
where
you
are
supposed
to
be
putting
an
amendment
forward,
but
I
think
that
I
had
a
conversation
with
councilman
orwell.
C
I'm
sorry
with
chief
of
staff
gilman
that
maybe
we
should
try
to
do
that
as
a
volunteer
basis
until
we
get
some
help
from
the
federal
government
and
then
do
that
again.
I
said
it
was
something
that
was
suggested
a
while
back
from
other
council
members,
and
so
I
said,
maybe
it's
something
we
could
do
and
then
I
just
do
want
to
say.
I
hear
a
lot
of
the
budget
cuts.
I
hear
a
lot
of
things
and
you
know
we
do
have
the
park
tax
on
the
table.
C
I
know
people
are
still
discussing
it,
but
I
do
believe
that
they
have
enough
votes
to
move
that
forward
if
they
wanted
to
and
if
other
members
wanted
to
join.
If
those
are
concerns,
that
might
that's
an
avenue
you
can
explore,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
you've
done
a
lot
of
work.
It
was
good
hearing
you
rattle
off
some
of
the
things
you've
done
and
you
actually
skipped
some
of
them.
I
know
that
that
you've
done
in
our
district.
C
It
was
so
good
to
hear
district
2
across
the
board
so
many
times,
but
I
do
have
some
concerns
and
I
do
want
to
say
this
with.
First
of
all,
with
the
trades,
I
agree
with
you
councilman
colgiel,
that
part
of
it
is
that
we
do
not
have
enough
people
here
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
I
think
what
we
ought
to
be
doing.
C
C
So
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
if
we
worked
with
them
to
get
people
into
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
then
they
would
become
members
of
the
union,
and
I
don't
know
how
the
union
feels
about
that.
So
maybe
that's
the
conversation
we
have
to
have
with
them,
but
the
also.
I
also
want
to
say
that
the
I
do
have
some
concerns
with
with
the
morale
within
the
department.
C
I
think
a
lot
of
the
technology,
even
though
it's
great
and
it
has
come
in
handy-
and
it
actually
just
helped
me
this
week
with
an
issue
to
track
down
why
street
wasn't
done
and
it
was
because
somebody
didn't
follow
the
route
and
the
technology
and
and
whatever
so
it
was
helpful
to
figure
out
so
it
doesn't.
It's
not
repeated.
C
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern
amongst
the
rank
and
foul
with
the
with
yours,
with
your
employees
about
how
they
feel
devalued
and
how
they
feel
like
they're
being
tracked-
and
you
know
almost
spied
on
and
not
appreciated,
and
I
mean
to
me:
I
love
the
technology.
I
love
that
you
know.
I
don't
like
the
idea.
That's
replacing
employees
and
and
people.
F
Nothing
watching
or
looking
at
you
look
at
the
technology
for
the
gps
for
the
snow
and
ice
control,
the
litter
receptacles
as
a
means
defend
our
employees.
We've
used
it
to
defend
our
employees
in
a
way
that
you
know
when
people
complained
that
a
street
wasn't
done,
we
could
get
on
there
and
say
yeah.
We
had
a
guy.
We
had
a
truck
down
that
street
at
9
30
last
night,
so
we've
defended
our
employees,
but
we,
you
know.
F
Yes,
we
have
used
it
when
there's
been
accusations
that
somebody's
done
something
improper
but
nobody's
sitting
here,
watching
the
computer
and
seeing
where
people
are
going
and
with
regard
to
the
snow
and
ice
control
program,
the
the
drivers,
the
people
who
are
gonna
be
driving
the
routes
we
have
have.
What
I've
been
told
is
they've,
embraced
it
that
they
they've
actually
got
to
work
with
it
drive
the
routes,
make
sure
that
their
little
tweaks
got
taken
care
of
like
back
up
the
hill
versus
coming
down
a
hill.
F
You
know
their
input
is
important
in
the
development
of
these
routes.
So,
as
far
as
I've
been
told,
the
gps
with
regards
to
snow
and
ice
control
operations
is
that
the
truck
drivers
and
the
and
the
employees
have
embraced
it
and
like
a
lot
and
the
foreman
and
supervisor
like
the
technology
for
what
they
can
do
in
terms
of
issuing
out
the
routes
and
and
the
things
that
the
way
they
can
communicate
with
each
of
the
employees
on
the
truck.
So
the
technology
is
good.
I
guess
I
said
we're
not
we're
not.
F
F
F
So,
as
I
said,
we
don't
nobody's
sitting
here
looking
at
the
computer
to
see
who
we
can
discipline.
That's
not
the
case
when
we
are
given
a
reasonable
accusation
against
an
employee.
We
have
to
investigate
that,
and
that
means
sometimes
we
got
to
go
to
the
eps
data.
For
instance,
there
was
an
employee
took
out
a
light
pole
in
a
get-go
parking
lot.
F
We
had
to
we
had
to
validate
that
with
the
gps
data,
so
there
are
cases
where
we
have
discipline
employees
with
that
and
there's
places
where
we
have
defended
the
employees
for
false
accusations.
So
it's
been
good
or
bad,
but
nobody's
sitting
here
running
data
to
see
if
this
employee's
driving
here
or
there
anywhere.
It's
only.
C
Do
want
to
say
director
when
we
voted
for
that
technology
we
that
we
specifically
asked
if
it
would
be
used
for
discipline
and
we
were
told
definitely
not
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
I
mention
that
so
I
I
would
hope
that
it's
not
being
used
for
a
way
that
we
were.
It
was
our
understanding.
It
would
not
be
because
I
don't
think
any
council
member
would
want
that.
I
think-
and
I
do
understand
that
you
use
it
for
helping
the
employees
and
I
do
understand.
C
There
was
a
case
where
an
employee
was
accused
of
speeding
and
somebody
was
yelling
and
having
it
fit
and
saying
all
kinds,
and
then
they
showed
on
the
gps
that
he
was
going
five
miles
an
hour.
It
wasn't
at
all
speed,
so
they
could.
They
could
prove
that.
So
that
was
helpful
to
that
employee
at
the
time.
But
so
I
do
understand
that
there's
value
to
it.
I
do
understand
it's
a
good
way
to
find
out
whether
a
street
was
done
or
not
done
to
make
sure
the
receptacles
are
being
emptied.
C
I
do
understand,
there's
some
value
to
it.
I
just
don't
want
to
lose
the
importance
and
I
don't
want
our
employees
to
feel
devalued,
and
I
don't
want
to
lose
the
importance
of
that
human
touch
and
the
and
the
relevance
of
having
people
doing
the
work
and
not
always
computers,
replacing
them
and
taking
over
some
of
their
some
of
their
jobs
and
and
for
them
to
be
disciplined
with
it.
I
just
don't
think
it's
fair.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
been
here
for
a
lot
of
years.
C
C
A
C
A
A
I
really
appreciate
that,
but
as
to
what
you
said
about
you
know
going
outside
the
city
for
trades,
I
would
love
to
see
like,
and
I
do
plan
to
have
a
job
fair
at
some
point
in
for
inner
city,
you
know
kids
and
create
a
pipeline
as
to
where
you
know.
Let
them
know
that
they
can
make
a
living
other
than
just
sitting
behind
a
computer.
You
know
and
when
you're
in
such
high
demand,
you
set
your
own
price.
So
so
you
know
you
can
make
a
good
living
at
it
as
well.
A
So
I
do
plan
to
explore
that
I
hope
providing
we
get
the
vaccine
and
everybody's
able
to
get
together
someday
soon.
It's
very,
very
important.
You
know
to
create
that
pipeline.
I'd
love
to
do
that.
Madam
president,
right
here
in
our
city,
teach
our
kids,
the
trades
and
again
they
can
live
here
and
they
can
work
here
as
well.
A
Can
you
do
that?
For
me?
We'll
talk
about
it.
You
know,
but
I
I
wanted
to
thank
you
and
marcel
for
actually
being
at
the
you
know,
meeting
the
outdoor
meeting
that
we
had,
but
but
but
that's
really
one
of
the
very
few
obstacles
I
feel
I
have
there
and
I
do
understand
your
concerns,
but
I'm
hoping
as
a
final
act.
You
come
in
and
say
yes
that
absolutely
could
be
done.
F
A
A
A
I
have
it
all
figured
out
of
course,
but
but
now
we
you
know,
hopefully
we
can
sit
down
and
talk
about
that
before
your
departure
and
come
up
with
a
realistic
way
as
to
you
know,
an
acceptable
way,
safe
way
that
we
can
do
that
so,
okay,
yep
now
any
other
members.
I
want
to
follow
up
or
other
questions.
A
A
and
I
believe
that
community
health
and
safety
is
also
immediately
following,
if
I
believe,
and
not
quite
sure
what
time,
but
that
that
will
be
chaired
by
councilman,
lavelle
and
in
parting.
I
just
want
to
say
again,
director
gable,
it's
an
honor
to
chair
your
your
final
hearing
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
marcel
and
the
people
under
you,
which
I
have
complete
confidence
in,
not
that
you're
not
a
huge
loss
but
but
I
know
you
run
deep.
A
I
know
the
department
has
many
leadership
and
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
my
two
supervisors,
john
mccoury
and
jeff
cook.
You
know
and
they're
just
an
example
of
the
many
people
behind
you
but
they're
they're
flawless.
You
know
most
of
the
time
I
don't
even
it
doesn't
get
to
you
because
they
they
handle
it
for
me.
So
so
with
that
you
know,
I
guess
do
I
have
to
what
do
I
have
to
do.
I
guess
motion
recess
so.
A
F
F
So
those
schools
were
a
part
of
the
inner
city
and
they,
you
know,
they're,
not
they're,
not
here
anymore,
and
that's
that
was
a
part
of
the
you
know
the
children's
education
through
the
year.
So
that's
just
another
avenue
of
trying
to
train
them
and
hopefully
not
train
them
and
send
them
out
to
you
know,
work
somewhere
else
other
than
in
the
city.
So.
A
We'll
keep
our
fingers
crossed.
That's
a
good
point.
My
grandfather
went
to
conley
as
a
carpenter.
You
know
there's
again,
this
is
really
an
avenue
for
inner
city,
kids,
who
may
not
have
the
means
to
go
to
college
like
myself
to
go
out
and
make
a
nice
living.
I
mean
again
when
you're
in
that,
when
there's
that
type
of
demand
for
the
work
that
you
do,
you
know
it's
especially
if
you're
self-employed,
you
set
your
own
price.
A
So
so
I
just
want
to
you
know-
and
I
and
I
do
plan
to
talk
to
other
members
that
I
hope
to
bring
in
for
say
a
annual
job
fair
to
help.
You
know,
at
least
at
the
very
least,
get
kids
interested
in
that
type
of
work.
Let
them
know
you
know,
there's
a
whole
new
field
out
there
or
a
whole
other
field
that
people
are
making
a
lot
of
money
at
and
when
I
open
it
up
to
them.
So
so,
with
that,
I
guess
I
will
accept
a
motion
to
recess
from
somebody.