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A
A
1St
2023
bill
number
617
resolution
appointing
dr
audrey
morrell
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority
for
a
turn
to
expire
december.
31St
2023
and
bill
number
663
resolution
appointing
mr
chaz
keller
to
serve
as
a
commissioner
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
commission
on
human
relations
for
term
to
expire
august,
30th,
2024.
A
Now
we
have
introduction
of
papers
for
discussion,
finance
and
law
committee.
Mr
level
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
659
resolution
amending
resolution,
401
of
2017,
which
authorizes
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
finance
to
enter
into
a
professional
services
agreement
with
chr
catering
company
for
the
purposes
of
providing
the
city
with
beverage
and
snack
food
vending
services
through
vending
machines.
A
Sorry,
public
safety
services
committee,
mr
o'connor,
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
647,
ordinance,
amending
and
supplementing
the
pittsburgh
code
of
ordinances,
title
1,
administrative
article,
3
organization,
chapter
116,
department
of
public
safety
to
regulate
the
use
of
facial
recognition
and
predictive
policing
technology.
This
bill
is
sponsored
by
councilman
corey
o'connor
public
works
committee.
A
Mr
coghill
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
656
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
public
works
to
enter
into
an
agreement
between
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
studio
zwade
for
the
professional
landscape,
architectural
services
for
homewood
park.
Infrastructure
upgrades
cost
not
to
exceed
one
million
six
hundred
thirty
thousand
and
fourteen
dollars
bill
number
six.
Fifty
seven
resolution
granting
until
roberts
j,
lewis
their
successors
and
assigns
the
privilege
and
license
to
construct,
maintain
and
use
at
their
own
cost
and
expense.
A
A
A
This
study
will
be
at
no
cost
to
the
city,
innovation,
performance
and
asset
management
committee.
Ms
strasberger
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
660
resolution
amending
resolution,
642
of
2017,
which
authorized
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
finance
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
rt
lawrence
corporation
for
the
provision
of
a
remittance
processing
system,
bill
number
661
resolution
amending
resolution,
738
of
2019,
which
provided
for
a
professional
services
agreement
with
ncr
corporation
to
provide
city-wide
credit,
debit
and
e-check
payment
services
for
the
collection
of
various
programs
and
permitting
fees
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
Intergovernmental
affairs
committee,
ms
bros,
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
299
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
public
works
to
enter
into
a
project,
cooperation,
agreement
or
professional
services,
agreement
with
grounded
strategies
for
the
purposes
of
implementing
a
city
farms,
pilot
project
cost
not
to
exceed
45
000,
councilwoman,
deb
gross
and
council
men.
Anthony
coghill
are
the
sponsors
of
this
legislation.
A
We
have
bill
number
658
resolution
adopting
the
plan
revision
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
official
sewage
facilities
plan
for
a
safe
place
to
stay
projects.
While
we
involve
interior
and
exterior
renovations
to
the
existing
eight-story
building,
located
at
326
third
avenue
into
office
space
on
floors,
one
through
six
and
a
rooming
house
on
floors,
seven
and
eight
for
a
safe
place
to
stay
program.
A
B
C
So
good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
pre-agenda
for
wednesday
september
9
2020,
we
have
four
appointments
today
for
consideration.
We
have
with
us
miss
rosa
maria
cristela
to
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority.
We
have
b.j
lieber
to
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority,
and
we
have
dr
audrey
morel
to
the
pittsburgh
water
sewer
authority,
and
we
also
have
with
us
chas
kellum
to
the
commission
on
human
relations.
C
I'm
currently
joined
by
councilwoman,
erica
strasberger
and
others
may
join.
As
we
begin.
What
I
would
ask
is
in
the
order
that
I
called
you
if
you
would
just
please
give
us
your
name
a
little
bit
of
background
information
on
you
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
proceed
forward.
We'll
start
with
miss
cristela.
Am
I
saying
that's.
E
E
Bill
616
resolution
appointing
mrs
b.j
lieber
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority
for
a
term
to
expire
january.
1St
2023
bill
number
617
resolution
appointing
dr
audrey
mural
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority
for
a
term
to
expire
december.
31St
2023
bill
number
663
resolution
appointing
mr
chaz
kellum
to
serve
as
the
commissioner
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
commission
on
human
relations
for
a
term
to
expire
august.
30Th
2024.
D
Good
morning
everyone
I'm
rosa
maria
cristello.
I
I
live
in
the
beautiful
neighborhood
of
regent
square,
the
pittsburgh
side,
as
many
of
you
know,
region
square
is
divided
into
like
four
different
places,
but
it's
I
live
right
on
the
pittsburgh
place
and
I
love
it.
I
am
currently
the
the
founder
and
executive
director
of
the
latino
community
center
here
in
pittsburgh.
D
F
Hi
good
morning,
everybody
I'm
bj
lebron,
the
president
and
ceo
of
adagio
health.
Hopefully
you
know
about
us.
F
If
you
don't
very
broadly,
we
are
a
health
care
provider
throughout
the
state
of
pennsylvania,
with
a
focus
in
western
pennsylvania,
headquartered
in
downtown
pittsburgh,
and
we
provide
health
and
wellness
services
primarily
to
women
and
primarily
to
women
who
are
underserved
either
with
no
insurance
or
insurance.
That
makes
it
impractical
for
them
to
access
their
health
care.
So
we
are
all
about
access
and
equity
and-
and
I'm
really
proud
of,
our
team
they've
done
a
great
job
through
the
pandemic
prior
to
adagio
health.
F
I
was
at
the
west
penn
hospital
foundation
and
wqed,
so
I
have
a
career
in
non-profit
and
community
work,
and
I
was
most
recently
the
chair
of
the
intergovernmental
cooperation
authority
appointed
by
the
governor
and
we
went
out
of
business,
which
was
exactly
what
we
were
supposed
to
do
a
few
years
ago.
So
I
so.
I
relished
this
opportunity
to
to
jump
back
in
to
help
the
city.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
record.
We
are
also
joined
by
madam
president,
teresa
kale
smith.
Miss
morrell.
G
Good
morning,
audrey
morel,
I'm
a
professor
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh,
I'm
actually
a
psychologist
by
training,
but
I
have
an
appointment
in
the
top-ranked
school
of
business
at
pitt
where
I've
been
serving
some
leadership
roles,
including
a
previous
role
as
a
director
of
the
ethics
and
leadership
center
and
head
of
the
undergraduate
business
program.
Until
a
year
ago,
I
stepped
into
the
role
of
acting
dean
of
the
university
honors
college.
G
I
live
on
the
north
side
of
pittsburgh
in
manchester
and
have
been
involved
and
led
a
number
of
non-profit
boards.
As
chair
throughout
the
history
of
pittsburgh,
which
I
moved
here
in
1987.
So
people
tell
me
that
makes
me
an
official
pittsburgh
pittsburgh,
not
only
member
of
the
community
but
member
of
the
family
and-
and
I
do
a
lot
of
work
on
the
interface
between
issues
related
to
diversity,
inclusion
and
social
responsibility,
both
in
terms
of
of
individual
development
and
organizational
best
practice,
and
look
forward
to
bringing
that
expertise
to
the
board.
H
Good
morning,
everyone,
it's
good
to
see
you
so
many
friendly
faces
and
folks
that
knows
so.
Good
morning,
chess
cal
on
my
service
director
for
the
office
of
pit
serves
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh
seems
like
we
have
a
pit
theme
going
here
this
morning.
H
The
office
of
pitt
serves
provides
meaningful
and
ethical
service
experiences
to
university
of
pittsburgh
students,
a
role
which
I've
been
in
for
about
two
years
and
I'm
honored
to
serve
in
that
role.
My
background
is
in
diversity,
inclusion
and
equity,
as
I've
had
multiple
roles
before
that
in
that
area
in
some
way
all
focused
on
community.
H
The
thing
that
has
all
my
work
together
over
the
course
of
my
career
has
been
community
development
and
just
community
work
overall
activism
and
so
forth
throughout
the
opportunity
to
join
back
on
the
human
relations
commission.
I
previously
was
a
member
some
time
ago
and
looking
forward
at
the
opportunity
to
join
back.
I
live
in
the
31st
ward
of
the
city
and
I'm
excited
to
give
and
support
the
city
in
this
in
this
role,
if
given
the
opportunity,
so
thanks
for
having
me
glad
to
be
here.
C
Three
are
for
pwsa,
mr
kellem
is
for
the
commission
on
human
relations.
Okay,.
I
And
could
any
of
you
tell
me
or
any
of
you
from
southwest
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
I
C
I
K
I
K
I
I'm
pretty
sure
I've
looked
at
them
before
and
there
was
none
from
our
side
of
town
and
then,
when
you
mentioned
that,
there's
a
pit
theme
going
on,
I
I
think
we
often
go
to
the
universities,
which
are
great
for
a
lot
of
information,
but
I
also
think
that
we
need
people
from
the
city
of
pittsburgh
that
are
everyday
residents
involved.
In
some
of
these
things.
I
I
think
this
is
what
people
have
been
actually
protesting,
saying
that
they
don't
feel
like
they
have
a
voice
in
a
lot
of
things
that
we
seem
to
get
people
with.
You
know
that
are
supposedly
experts
in
certain
areas,
but
and
and
not
to
say
that
we
don't
appreciate
all
of
you
for
your
willingness
to
participate.
I
For
me,
I'd
like
to
see
the
everyday
person
also
represented
on
some
of
these
boards
and
authorities,
and
I
do
think
that
this
administration
has
probably
bought
the
most
diverse
group
of
people
ever
on
a
board
or
authority
on
any
of
the
boards
or
authorities
that
I've
ever
seen.
So
I
don't
want
to
say
that
this
is
them,
but
I
do
think
that
we
we
don't.
I
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
criteria
that
we
set,
that
you
have
to
have
a
diverse
background
in
terms
of
geographical
diversity,
economic
diversity.
I
think
that
there
should
be
a
diversity
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
necessarily
reach
that,
and
so
and
I'll
be
honest.
I
would
like
to
know
what
you
think
any
of
you.
If
you
could
just
tell
me
what
you
think,
you'll
be
able
to
contribute
to
the
board
for
pwsa.
I
F
F
It's
a
great
neighborhood,
a
big
belief
in
the
neighborhoods
have
always
lived
in
the
city
since
we
have
been
in
pittsburgh.
So
at
the
risk
of
sounding
a
modest,
I've
got
a
lot
of
experience
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
really
good
work,
having
an
impact
in
the
city
and
surrounding
areas,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
to
bringing
that
to
the
table.
I
know
that
I
we
all
have
a
lot
to
learn.
B
F
D
D
So
I
I
guess
what
I
would
like
to
bring.
Is
you
know
I'm
new
to
this?
I
I
will
be
completely
lying.
If
I
was
to
tell
you
that
I
always
dreamed
of
sitting
on
the
board
of
peter.
That's
not
the
case.
I
come
to
it
very
much
as
learning
and
I
the
way
I
approach
a
lot
of
this
similar
to
when
I
first
moved
to
pittsburgh.
D
You
know
I've
learned
a
lot
while
I've
been
in
pittsburgh
and
a
lot
of
what
I
learned,
I
I
then
teach
back
to
my
community
to
the
latino
community
that
has
been
growing
here
right.
So
the
way
I've
had
to
interpret
what
I
learned
is
in
different
ways
like
the
way
that
my
community
learns
and
one
obviously
is
language
right
interpreting
from
english
to
spanish
and
ensuring
that
whatever
system,
I'm
learning
about
in
pittsburgh,
I'm
able
to
then
teach
and
and
and
help
others
understand
that
system.
D
So
that's
the
way
I
kind
of
view
what
this
appointment
here
is
pw
say
I've
also
done
a
little
bit
of
research
and
trying
to
understand
the
system
as
a
whole.
I
can't
tell
you
that
I
I
get
it
at
all
the
minutes.
Were
you
know,
I'm
gonna,
it's
gonna
take
some
time
for
me
to
learn
it,
and
so
what
I
hope
to
bring
is
just
kind
of.
I
will
be
the
person
asking
questions.
I
will
be
the
person
that
raises
my
hand
and
says
I'm
sorry.
I
don't.
D
I
don't
really
understand
this,
but
the
goal
is,
if
I'm
going
to
be
here,
I
really
want
to
understand
it
and
and-
and
I
want
to
educate
then
others
that
need
to
know
about
this
when
when
we
first
started
this
conversation
I
remember
coming
home
and
there
was
a
no
a
notice
about
the
pwsa
doing
something
on
in
my
street
and
it
was
when
I
first
started
to
kind
of
open
my
eyes
to
this
and
and
saw
like,
but
this
is
in
english
right.
So
how
are
other
people
supposed
to
understand?
D
What's
in
this
brochure
and
and
and
so
on,
and
so
that's
that's
definitely
the
lens
that
I'm
coming
to
this
with,
and
you
know
I
hope
that
that's
needed.
I
understand
completely
where
you're
coming
from
so
you
know.
Obviously,
this
is
your
decision.
D
L
I
My
sister
helped
start
that
roseanne
roseanne
javorsky
but
anyway,
so
I
would
just
say
that
I
have
not
voted
for
the
past
few
pwc
board
appointees
and
it's
not
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
people.
I
In
general
I
mean
some
of
the
most
amazing
people
they're
appointing
to
some
of
these
boards,
but
mostly
because
I
just
have
a
lot
of
concerns
with
pwsa
and
actually
today
I
got
tagged
in
a
bunch
of
facebook
comments
where
people
were
saying
that
they
got
a
bill
from,
I
think,
15
or
17
years
ago,
something
and
they
want
people
to
pay
this
bill
and
their
astronomical
bills.
And
apparently
a
lot
of
bills
went
out
and
I'm
sure
councilman
strasberger
knows
more
about
that.
I
But
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
look
into
that.
I
just
want
to
know
how
those
kinds
of
things
are
not,
and
I
think
that
you'll
be
a
voice
for
that,
and
I
hope
that
you'll
be
a
voice
for
that
that
kind
of
stuff
I
want
to
make
sure
the
people
have
a
voice
on
there.
I
love
the
idea
of
making
sure
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
with
a
lot
of
talent
and
obviously
the
administration
picked
a
lot
of
great
people
and
you're
all
seemed
very
impressive.
I
But
for
me
it's
the
everyday
person
who
struggles
to
pay
that
bill.
That
needs
to
be
on
that
board
and
we
have
a
lot
of
those
right
now
and
with
pwc.
It's
the
person
who's
worried
about
leading
their
water.
That
needs
to
be
on
the
on
those
boards
at
least
one
voice.
Somebody
who's
going
to
question
things,
someone
who's
going
to
challenge
the
status
quo
and
and
not
to
cause
trouble
or
not
to
not
to
you
know,
turn
a
board
upside
down,
but
to
get
results
for
the
residents
and
for
the
rate
payers.
I
I
I
took
my
name
off
of
some
of
them
and
and
now
as
council
president,
you
get
appointed
to
certain
things
just
because
of
the
position,
but
I
got
to
be
honest
if
there's
even
some
that
I'm
on
now
that
I'm
going
to
take
my
name
off
because
I
really
want
I
don't
like
fluff,
I
don't
like
making
something
just
look
great.
I
want
to
make
something
have
great
results
for
the
people,
and
so
with
that
said,
I'm
just
going
to
say
I
I've
not
voted
for
this.
I
I
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
get
you
one.
Second,
I'm
sorry.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
really
know
know
you
personally
or
know
of
you
or
know
of
your
work
and
probably
are
very
impressed
with
you
as
well.
So
I
don't
anticipate
that
you
wouldn't
be
approved.
I
I'm
just
saying
every
time
we
have
appointees
I'm
going
to
bring
up
the
fact
that
we
need
everyday
people
on
some
of
these
things
too,
not
to
run
the
entire
board,
but
at
least
to
be
a
voice
on
there
and-
and
I
and
I'm
sure
some
of
you
are
everyday
people-
know
the
people
that
are
struggling
and
working
in
the
communities
that
need
help.
So
I
do
want
to
say
that
I'm
not
saying
that
you're
out
of
touch
with
any
of
that.
I
I'm
just
saying
I'd
just
like
to
know
that
we
have
that
voice
on
there
and-
and
I
do
think
erica
strasberg.
Our
councilwoman
does
a
great
job
too.
So
I
think
that
she's
always
willing
to
to
look
deeper
when
we
have
an
issue.
So
I
do.
I
do
appreciate
all
that.
I
just
think
it
means
something
to
the
public
to
see
them
on
a
board
to
see
their
face
on
the
board.
Okay,
I'm
sorry
audrey!
Thank
you.
G
No,
I
was
gonna
just
chime
in
to
say
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
and,
and
I
want
to
say
that
the
university
of
pittsburgh
is
where
I
work.
The
city
of
pittsburgh
is
my
home,
and
that
was
very
intentional.
When
I
was
looking
to
buy
a
house,
I
wanted
to
to
stay
in
the
city.
I
I
picked
the
north
side
because
I
wanted
to
walk
out
the
door
and
be
able
to
have
neighbors
and
friends
that
I
could
interact
with
in
a
normal
life.
G
G
You
know,
except
for
the
fact
that
in
oakland
they
might
call
me
professor
morell
just
depends
on
whether
or
not
grades
are
due
at
that
particular
week,
but
I
do
have
a
passion
for
understanding
two
things:
one,
how
we
make
sure
that
we
equalize
the
playing
field
for
people
to
live
a
life,
that
it
is
enjoyable
and
healthy
and
water
and
water
sustainability
is
absolutely
essential
to
that.
G
A
lot
of
people
talk
about
data
is
the
new
oil,
I
always
say
nope,
it's
not
it's
water,
and
so
this
is
not
just
any
commission.
For
me,
it
is
one
that
is
life-sustaining
and
and
and
and
the
decisions
that
are
made
and
what
comes
before
this
board
are
absolutely
essential
and
they
not
only
affect
me.
G
They
don't
affect
the
city,
they
affect
all
the
friends
and
the
people
who
I'm
so
attached
to
in
the
city,
and
I
think
that
that's
exactly
the
perspective
that
I
bring
in
addition
on
the
work
side
of
what
I
do.
We're
really
launching
this
whole
initiative
to
get
pitt
students
more
interested
in
in
channeling
their
passion,
about
issues
related
to
climate
to
understand
the
impact
of
water
sustainability.
G
So
I
see
the
two
sides
of
me
coming
together
on
this
board:
the
side
of
me
that
lives
on
the
north
side
and
pays
attention
to
the
water
bill
and
talks
to
my
neighbors
and
my
church
members
when
they
can't
pay
the
water
bill
and
standing
in
the
classroom,
trying
to
motivate
students
to
be
able
to
do
community
based
research.
That
has
an
impact.
So
I'm
excited.
I
I'm
excited
for
all
of
you,
honestly.
If
I
vote
this
time,
it
will
be
the
first
time
I've
done
it
since
I
don't
know
if
you
know
the
history
with
the
pwsa
stuff,
but
it
was
actually
came
about
with
residents
of
my
district,
actually
the
residents
of
another
district,
but
they
thought
they
lived
in
my
district
and
they
came
to
me
and
they
bought
their
bills
and
we
started
uncovering
the
problems
with
the
bills.
Then
we
started
uncovering
the
problems
with
the
meters.
I
Then
it
was
the
lead
in
the
war,
and
I
just
thought
god,
please
stop
sending
me
more
things
to
uncover,
because
it
was
really
getting
daunting
and
it
was
like
overwhelming
to
because
there
was
just
so
much
that
needed
done
and
the
women's
caucus
started
asking
for
investigations
and
started
looking
into
it.
So
I'm
so
keenly
aware,
because
those
residents
are
constantly
watching
and
asking
what's
happening
with
with
pwsa.
I
They
want
to
know
that
things
are
really
changed,
not
just
great
pr,
and
I
am
happy
to
say
that
the
director
now
lives
in
my
district
in
mount
washington.
But
I
I
still
want
to
say
that
even
with
him
at
the
very
top-
and
I
think,
he's
doing
a
good
job,
I
do
think
that
I
want
to
have
people
on
the
board
overseeing
his
work
as
well,
that
are
local
residents
that
are
everyday
people.
I
I
just
like
to
see
a
little
bit
of
diversity
in
terms
of
you
know:
education,
economics,
geographic
things
that
maybe
we
haven't
thought
of
just
so
people
see
themselves,
and
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
all
you
sound
so
impressive
and
it
sounds
like
you
have
your
finger
on
the
pulse
of
the
community
and
that's
important,
that's
so
important
to
me.
So
this
one.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
your
willingness
to
serve
you're
welcome.
N
Few
questions
thanks
yeah,
absolutely
I
just
didn't
know
who
had
gone
yet
I
apologize
for
being
late
and
and
so
I'll
be
here
to
hear
your
questions.
Sorry.
J
Okay,
so
I'd
like
actually
to
start
with
mr
kellum,
because
you
haven't
gotten
a
chance
to
speak.
Yet
if
you
could,
if
you
could
just
tell
us,
I
mean
the
community
commission
on
human
relations
is
already
doing
so
much.
I
mean
they've
expanded
the
number
of
protected
classes
in
the
last
several
years,
through
many
different
bills,
through
council
they're
working
every
day
to
get
out
into
the
community
to
inform
people
that
they
exist.
You
know
what
do
you
think
you
will
bring?
What
do
you
think
that
the
chr
can
do
even
better.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
I
I'm
really
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
bring
diversity,
inclusion
and
equity.
My
experiences,
my
my
education
and
my
just
perspective
to
that
group.
I
identify
as
a
black
man
that
has
a
disability
and
I'm
excited
to
bring
both
of
those
perspectives
and
those
lenses
to
the
work,
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
adding
some
some
valuable
insight
and
resources
and
tools
to
the
group.
H
I
I
think
we
have
a
work
cut
out
of
ahead
of
us,
meaning
that
just
informing
and
educating
city
residents
about
the
commission
making
sure
that
we
have
our
our
feet
on
the
ground
in
communities
and
spaces
that
matter,
and
we
continue
to
use
the
resources
that
are
available
to
us
in
the
nonprofit
sector
of
pittsburgh
and
the
government
side
of
pittsburgh
to
really
just
enhance
the
opportunities
and
access
for
pittsburgh
residents.
So
I
I
I
have
seen
firsthand
the
change
and
evolution
in
the
commission.
H
As
a
member
under
past
leadership,
I
have
seen
the
evolution
and
the
growth
and
the
great
work
of
the
new
new
leadership,
so
I'm
excited
to
to
work
in
and
in
with
that
new
leadership,
and
I-
and
I
think
I'm
gonna
echo
with
what
audrey
said
about
you-
know
I'm
a
pittsburgher
with
the
pittsburgh
public
schools,
I
mean
I,
I
love
this
town
and
then
that
sounds
super
corny
and
cliche
to
say
being
that
we're
all
together,
but
I
I
really
mean
that
I
mean
this
is
I
grew
up
here.
H
I
lived
here
all
my
professional
career
has
been
here.
It
is
the
place
that
I
work
folks,
it's
not
who
I
am
right
and
while
I
love
pitt
and
I'm
thankful
for
the
opportunity
to
do
the
work,
it's
it's
only
a
small
fraction
of
who
I
am
every
day
I
wake
up
as
a
black
man.
Every
day
when
I
wake
up,
I
have
to
roll
over
and
get
into
my
wheelchair
and
engage
the
world
from
that
perspective.
H
Every
day,
I'm
faced
with
many
of
the
same
challenges
as
many
of
our
residents
are
in
the
city,
and
I
want
to.
I
want
to
contribute,
I
want
to
leave
it
better
than
I
found
it
right
for
the
next
generation
and
generations
to
come
after
me,
so
I'm
excited
to
do
that
work.
I'm
excited
to
get
my
hands
dirty
in
the
work
and
do
the
hard
stuff.
J
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
the
time
and
effort
that
you
will
put
into
this
commission.
So
thank
you
for
the
other,
for
the
other
three
I'll
just
say
that
I
would
welcome
you
on
the
board
with
me.
As
a
relative
newcomer
myself
as
the
newest
member
of
the
board,
I
am
even
having
worked
for
city
government
for
six
years.
I'm
still
continuing
to
learn
about
pwsa.
So
having
you
ask
those
questions
along
with
me
will
be
very
welcome.
J
You
know
pwsa.
I
think
we
all
on
the
board
recognize
that
if
it's
the
kind
of
utility
it
water
is
kind
of
the
kind
of
utility
that
we
should
all
have
access
to,
but
you
should
not
have
to
think
about
you.
Should
people
should
basically
not
have
to
know
that
pwsa
exists
if
it's
doing
its
job
right,
because
it
delivers
clean,
fresh
water
that
people
that
customers
can
depend
on
and
that's
about
it?
Maybe
they'll
disrupt
your
street
once
in
a
while,
but
that
should
be.
J
You
know
kind
of
the
way
it
goes,
and
that
hasn't
been
the
case.
I
mean
council
members
four
years
ago,
got
more
cases
sent
to
them
related
to
pwsa
than
basically
any
other
concern.
It
was
about
lead.
It
was
about
billing,
it
was
about
this
or
that
there
were
so
many
concerns,
and
I
think
we
are
under
you
know
the
previous
director
and
the
current
director
we're
riding
the
ship,
but
it's
a
big
ship
to
turn
around.
So
you
know
we
have
a
work
cut
out
for
us.
J
We
have
you
know
revenue
shortfalls
that
we're
facing
because
of
the
pandemic,
because
states
and
cities
and
the
federal
government
are
facing
revenue
shortfalls
but
at
the
same
time,
still
continuing
to
commit
to
addressing
lead
by
2026
and
replacing
every
single
lead
service
line
by
then,
while
also
making
sure
that
we're
sensitive
to
people
who
are
unable
to
pay
their
bills,
because
you
know
50
of
people
are
out
of
work
or
have
lost
wages
right.
J
So
we've
extended
the
moratorium
on
shut
offs
that
continue
now
because
because
of
that
sensitivity,
but
you
know
balancing
that
with
the
fact
that
we
have
all
these
major
infrastructure
projects
that
we're
working
to
to
do
to
accomplish
because
of
deferred
maintenance
over
the
last
50
years
and
projects
that
were
kicked
down
the
road
so
and
that
on
top
of
climate
change,
which
is
going
to
make
our
our
landslides
and
our
storm
events
and
flooding
basements,
that
more
prevalent
and
real
for
everybody.
J
G
Well,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
in
addition
to
on
the
research
side
is
I
work
a
lot
with
organizations
about
organizational
leadership,
social
responsibility
and
organizations,
understanding
how
to
make
them
more
efficient,
and
so
it
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
is
sort
of
get
in
and
and
figure
out.
How
can
we
balance
making
sure
that
the
organization
is
financially
solvent
at
the
same
time
that
it's
doing
something
that
is
causing
no
harm?
G
You
know
to
the
to
the
to
the
community
that
it's
supposed
to
serve,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
bring
is
that
perspective.
Having
done
that
work
both
from
the
academic
side
but
more
from
the
practice
side.
So
looking
at
ways
to
be
able
to
diagnose,
what's
going
on
from
an
organization
and
a
leadership
standpoint
and
a
finance
standpoint
is,
is
something
that
I
think
I
can
contribute
in
addition
to
just
my
fundamental
passion
about
issues
related
to
sustainability
and
climate.
F
Yeah,
I
think
erica.
I
would
echo
that,
in
regards
to
you,
know
the
importance
of
water
and
something
that
none
of
us
should
have
to
think
about.
You
know
there
are
other
things
in
life
that
we
need
to
spend
our
time
and
energy
on,
and
my
I
think
my
experience
at
adagio
health
is
probably
a
parallel
track
in
terms
of
healthcare.
F
F
And
so
that's
that's
the
mission
I
mean
from
from
day
one
I
think,
a
focus
on
the
the
mission
which
is
so
clear
in
the
the
pwsa
case
and
then
in
terms
of
organizational
impact.
F
I'm
really
proud
to
say
that
I
just
in
september,
started
my
sixth
year
at
adagio
health
and
when
I
started,
we
were
considerably
in
debt
and
in
the
process
of
downsizing
the
organization,
and
we
have
now
turned
it
around
so
that
we
are
financially
healthy
and
growing,
and
so
it's
that
combination
of
mission
and
then
having
good
management,
a
good
board
oversight
and
good
support
in
place
to
help
move
it
forward
to
something.
That's
so
important
to
our
community,
so
I
really
look
forward
to
that
hope.
I
can
contribute.
D
Yeah
and
for
me,
I
I
agree
with
everything
you
said.
I
don't
think
people
need
to
think
about
this
and
and
again
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
like
I
want
to
learn
more
about
this
before
I.
I
can
fully
give
my
this
is
how
I'm
going
to
contribute,
because
I
think
for
me,
I
need
to
understand
it.
I
need
to
to
learn
it
a
little
bit
more.
One
thing
I
I
did
not
say
here
my
background
is
from
iup.
D
I
got
a
degree
in
environmental,
regional
planning,
and
so
now
that
was
over
a
decade
ago,
but
you
know
I'm
gonna
have
to
dust
off
my
books
and
and
just
reach
back
out
to
to
the
great
team
there
to
help
me
understand
all
this
as
well.
So
I
do
have
the
the
background
on
that
that
I
do
want
to
bring
back
to
this
and
yeah
again.
Just
I
think
that
we're
all
anyone
who's
running
an
organization
right
now
is
going
through
this
there's.
D
So
many
different
things
that
are
changing-
and
you
know
us
at
the
lcc
like
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
shifted
and
then
so
you
have
to
have
that
ability
you
have
to
have
that
that
mind.
That's
looking
at
the
whole
piece,
and
if
you
move
this,
then
how
is
it
going
to
affect
this,
but
then
there's
a
lot
of
there's
like
20
of
these
things,
and
so
you
know
I'm
hoping
to
bring
that
mentality
as
well
like.
This
is
what
I
do.
D
Every
single
day
is
thinking
through
cause
and
effect,
and
and
and
how
are
we
just
going
to
push
forward
and
and
make
sure
that
we
all
get?
I
mean
we're
in
a
pandemic
right
so
like.
How
are
we
going
to
get
through
this
as
a
team,
and
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
that
mentality
and
way
of
thinking
that
I
I
hope
to
bring
to
the
board.
But
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
I
need
to
learn.
J
Thank
you.
I
thank
you
all
for
your
willingness
to
serve
all
of
you.
I
think
you'll
find
that
the
pwc
board
members
that
are
currently
there
are
they
really
take
it
seriously.
They
ask
tough
questions
and
the
staff
are
ready
for
those
tough
questions,
so
I
hope
that
you
will
bring
that
it
sounds
like
you
will
bring
that
with
you
and
not
only
to
learn
but
to
challenge
it
to
be
a
better
organization
for
everybody
all
right.
Thanks.
M
N
Hi
everybody.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
It's
good
to
see
you
I'm
vijay,
it's
good
to
see
you,
so
I
am
struggling
to
still
open
your
resumes
on
my
computer.
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
clerk
while
we're
talking,
so
I
apologize
that
it's
not
working
on
my
screen.
We
all
are
struggling
with
technology
these
days
and
I
just
wanted
to
recap.
N
So
I
I
had
both
hats
on
through
all
of
these
bumps
that
we've
been
through
and
the
kind
of
organizational
really
it's
been
an
organizational
turnaround
so
far,
and
so
we're
oh,
I
think
all
collectively
happy
to
be
here
instead
of
where
we
were
five
years
ago
when
things
started
falling
apart,
and
I
wanted
to
frame
that
a
little
bit.
It
was
my
experience
when
I
first
joined
the
board
that
we
couldn't
get
our
questions
answered
as
board
members.
N
We
couldn't
get
our
questions
answered
as
council
members
and
we
couldn't
give
straight
answers
to
our
constituents,
and
that
was
in
part,
I
believe
in
my
personal
experience,
because
of
the
private
public
partnership
that
the
city
had
with
fiolio
corporation
right,
so
pwsa
had
given
over
its
operations
to
the
largest
water
corporation
on
the
planet
and
viola
corporation
wasn't
was
in
control
of
the
organization,
it
had
all
the
top
of
the
organizational
turret
as
direct
employees,
and
it
took
a
long
time
and
a
lot
of
strength
from
I
really
want
to
give
credit
to
the
board
members
that
were
on
that
board.
N
At
that
time
we
were
all
brand
new,
except
for
our
city,
treasurer
margaret
lanier,
and
so
we
had
a
lot
of
learning
to
do.
Certainly,
but
there
was
deep
experience
and
there
were
several
attorneys
on
the
board
and
we
were
able
to
sever
that
relationship
with
violia.
We
were
able
to
get
rid
of
those
employees.
N
We
were
able
to
change
the
top
of
the
org
chart.
We
sued
them
for
the
damage
that
they
did
to
our
direct
water
system,
ruining
the
billing
system.
Firstly,
right,
which
is
the
first
thing
that
councilwoman
smith
said
that
she
heard
from
for
her
constituents
and
I
distinctly
remember
the
day
when
she
brought
those
concerns
to
me
as
a
board
member-
and
I
said
to
her-
you
know
I
am
not
getting
those
calls
in
my
council
office
and
believe
me.
N
We
certainly
weren't
hearing
them
from
the
viola
corporate
leadership
that
as
board
members,
so
I
we
were
bringing
those
complaints
to
the
leadership,
but
then
soon
very
soon
my
phone
and
my
council
office
started
ringing
soon
and
I
could
see
having
a
bit
of
a
background
in
data
from
the
early
dinosaur
years
of
data
in
the
80s
and
90s
that
these
failures
were
rolling
out
geographically
around
the
city.
N
In
terms
of
the
billing
strike,
the
billing
system,
it
was
literally,
their
technology
was
terrible,
and
so
we
had
that
was
a
long
road
to
fix,
and
then
we
soon
entered
the
terrible
national
tragedy
of
watching
the
flint
water
system
go
through
its
troubled
blood
and
then
we
directly
pressed
the
relia
leadership.
Whether
or
not
we
had
lead
trouble.
We
were
told
our
water
was
great,
was
perfect,
but
within
days
they
admitted
that
they
were
under
notice.
N
We
were
under,
we
were
under
notice
as
a
board
from
dep,
and
we
we
pressed
and
pressed
to
take
really
quick
action
really
having
learned
through
the
terrible
tragedy
that
we
had,
while
watched
the
previous
year
of
the
flint
water
system,
of
which
fiolia
was
also
in
control
of
so
remember
that
it
was
also
viola
in
control
of
the
water
system
in
flint
michigan.
N
At
the
same
time-
and
you
know,
we
didn't
have
the
ma
the
firepower
to
continue
a
lawsuit
against
the
biggest
water
multinational
on
the
planet,
and
we
settled
pretty
quickly
and
we
and
we
started
writing
that
wrong
right.
We
immediately.
I
think
it
was.
N
N
It
was
a
bit
of
a
you
know.
We
didn't
have
consensus
the
whole
time,
but
we
got
there
pretty
quick
enough
to
say
that
we
should
be
replacing
entire
lines
and
not
half
of
your
line,
which
really
makes
you
more
vulnerable
to
leg
contamination
and
voted
as
a
board
to
defy
the
state,
because
the
state
was
ordering
us
to
just
do
half-line
replacements,
which
is
really
scary
for
people
right.
N
So
imagine
you
have
lead
all
the
way
from
the
water
main
in
the
street
into
your
basement,
but
the
state
statewide
was
ordering
water
systems
to
just
do
half
just
the
public
side
under
the
street,
which
causes
you
know
vibrations
and
can
shake
the
hundred-year-old
lead
lines
literally
shake
pieces
free
into
your
into
your
private
side,
and
so
we
defied
the
state
and
did
a
year
of
arm
wrestling
and
with
the
state
senator's
help.
Especially
I
want
to
mention.
Elaine,
fontana
and
jade
costa
was
also
very
happy.
N
So
there
won't
be
lead.
There
still
are
situations.
I
also
want
to
add
that
as
a
board-
and
I
I
I
want
to
impress
finding
out
how
important
I
think
this
is
for
us
as
city
council
and
for
all
of
our
authorities-
that
we
always
even
in
these
emergency
situations
and
huge
lifts
like
the
prospect
of
spending
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
still
for
grounded
equity
in
our
decision
making.
N
So
it
was
really
a
public
health
issue
that
we
start
those
replacements
where
there
was
the
highest
density
of
children
under
the
age
of
six,
especially
right.
So
we
sent
the
best
census
data
we
had
at
the
time,
but
also
in
the
low
and
moderate
income
neighborhoods,
because
those
are
people
who
are
not
going
to
have
the
risk.
The
fifty
thousand
dollars
anywhere
from
five
thousand
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
go
out
and
go
ahead
and
replace
their
own
line
and
you'll
see.
N
If
you
look
at
the
map
of
where
those
replacements
have
happened
to
date,
that
we
really
prioritize
the
minority
and
low
and
moderate
income
neighborhoods,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
always
think
of
that,
and
here
at
the
city
council
table.
I
often
say
you
know:
rebuilding
the
city
isn't
just
above
ground
right,
so
all
of
the
same
issues
we
deal
with
on
gentrification
versus
reinvestment,
who's
benefiting
and
who's
paying
for
this
kind
of
city
reconstruction.
N
It's
also
relevant
to
what's
happening
underground,
whether
we're
working
on
stormwater
issues,
whether
we're
working
on
infrastructure
issues
like
water
and
sewer
mains
right
and
whether
we're
working
on
things
like
billing
right,
and
so
it's
also,
I
think,
a
struggle.
That's
in
front
of
you
now
with
the
puc,
is
how
our
revenues
at
pwsa
are
structured
in
the
last
round
of
rates.
They
kind
of
reduced
the
difference
between
what
an
individual
household
pays
as
a
rate
and
what
like
the
big
institutions
like
our
big
multi-billion
dollar
hospitals
pay
as
a
rate.
N
There
was
a
time
when
that
those
rates
were
a
little
farther
apart,
because
they're
different
rate
classes,
so
literally
there's
a
higher
price
per
gallon
of
water.
If
you
will
a
thousand
gallons
of
water
for
for
different
rate
classes,
and
I
think
those
rates
should
stay
farther
apart
right
because
they
are
the
bigger
demands
on
our
system.
There
was
a
time
when
we
had
like
giant
steel
mills
on
this
river's
edge
that
used
massive
amounts
of
water
and
really
helped
defray
the
cost
to
individuals.
N
Just
like
our
property
taxes
were
structured,
and
I
think
it's
only
fair
that
they,
those
bigger
institutions,
also
help
carry
that
cost,
because
they
are
a
bigger
demand
on
the
system.
And
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
very
interesting
conversation.
I
think
for
you
all
on
puc,
as
you
move
forward
and
trying
to
make
it
fair
and
just
and
equitable,
and
not
just
fair,
doesn't
mean
necessarily
same
in
my
mind.
N
So
I
think
that's
going
to
be
an
interesting
discussion
for
you
all
as
you
move
forward
on
on
who
pays
for
the
system
right,
where's.
The
capacity
to
pay,
I
think,
is
the
better
question
and
definition
of
fair,
just
kind
of
a
parallel
discussion
like
we
have
about
you
know
who
should
pay
a
tax
burden
all
right.
N
So
I
want
to
kind
of
share
that
with
you
and
I
think
in
all
of
these
things,
when
we're
talking
about
what
I
think
is
the
downside
of
privatization,
which
I've
already
kind
of
framed
for
you
is
still
a
threat.
N
N
There
are
a
lot
of
places
in
our
country
and
around
the
world
that
don't
have
as
plentiful
water
as
we
do
here
and
I,
the
lions,
are
at
the
gate.
N
Oh,
that's
the
right
metaphor
and
certainly
have
been
trying
their
best
to
make
themselves
part
of
this
system,
and
I,
if
I
urge
you
to
resist
it-
and
I
will
continue
to
say
that,
as
as
a
representative
for
city
on
city
council,
but
let's
also
talk
about
how
I
think,
what
in
the
in
the
crisis
that
we've
had
to
deal
with
and
turned
it
around.
N
We
also
had
to
rebuild
the
organization,
because
that
was
the
other
way
that
viola
had
saved
money
is
that
they
had
decimated
the
capacities
within
the
organization
and
I'm
really
happy
to
see
those
capacities,
be
it
back.
The
executive
team
is
really
strong
right.
We
made
some
really
great
hires
stole
a
bunch
of
really
good
people
from
city
government.
N
In
fact,
we
have
people
from
the
budget
office,
people
from
the
finance
office,
who
are
really
a
great
team
together,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
see
them
working
together,
but
in
a
way
pw
say
well,
we
have
engineering
plans.
We
have
infrastructure
plans
that
we
had
to
file
with
the
puc.
We
have
the
tariff
plans,
we've
got,
you
know
compliance
plans,
but
in
a
way
there
really
isn't
a
business
plan,
and
I
wanted
to
say,
especially,
I
think
I
heard
you
mention
bj
and
you're
talking
about
kind
of
organizational
change.
N
That
is
an
interesting.
It's
just
been
on
my
mind
right
that,
in
a
way,
you
know
what
kind
of
is
the
business
path.
That's
also
about
public
service
in
providing
this
public
good
and
how
you
kind
of
balance
those
two
things
right
so
that
we
don't
you
know
we
can.
We
saw
firsthand
how
I
think
and
allowing
violia
to
kind
of
make
off
with
about
10
million
dollars
before
things
were
all
said
and
done,
how
just
treating
an
authority
like
a
business
and
extracting
profit
out
caused
actual
harm.
N
N
So,
where
are
the
kind
of
needs,
but
also
opportunities,
and
I
I
used
to
joke
while
on
the
board,
but
it's
also
true
that
the
city
is
not
just
residential
users.
In
my
council
district
alone,
there
is
at
least
30
libation
companies.
I
call
them
libations
because
there's
something
like
15
breweries,
a
cidery.
N
I
think
three
wineries,
a
whiskey
distillery
and
a
rum
distillery,
and
it
may
also
be
a
blockage
story,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
just
distribution,
I
still
do
follow
up.
So
you
see
what
I
mean.
There
are
actually
kind
of
different
kinds
of
users
and
consumers
who-
and
that
means
what
the
system
physically
needs
different
needs,
but
it
isn't
just
engineering.
N
N
They're
within
walking
distance
honestly,
we
really
need
to
publish
a
map.
You
know
you
could
be
there.
Some
of
them
are
only
like
a
block
apart
from
each
other,
honestly
yeah
so
but
like,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
I
want
to
emphasize
and
I
would
really
I'd
really
be
eager
to
hear
any
reactions
to
especially
our
changing.
G
G
And
so
I
think
that
you
did
such
an
amazing
job
at
laying
out
the
history
and
the
different
challenges,
the
ones
that
were
faced
and
the
ones
that
are
coming,
that
that
having
those
conversations
about
how
how
to
be
able
to
move
forward
while
understanding
those
tensions
is,
is
a
conversation
I
look
forward
to
participating
in
because
it
is,
it
is
necessary
for
our
collective
well-being,
which
is
a
core
passion
to
me
again.
G
F
Yeah
deb,
I
liked
your
comments
about
violi
running
it
as
a
business
and
it's
a
public
service.
I
mean
to
me
it's
with
all
due
respect
to
those
in
business.
If
you're
running
a
business,
it's
relatively
easy
because
you
have
one
goal
and
that's
the
bottom
line,
but
I
think
there's
an
elegance
about
public
service
and
non-profit
work
where
you're
balancing
the
needs
of
the
community
with
the
needs
to
run
a
tight
ship,
and
it
seems
like
pwsa,
has
made
tremendous
progress
in
that
area
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
D
D
I
think
there's
there's
nothing
more
valuable
than
connecting
with
someone
who's
already
gone
through
it
and
I'd
love
to
continue
to
learn
how
you
guys
work
together.
You
know
exactly
what
you
were
sharing,
but
a
little
bit
more
in
depth,
so
yeah
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
you
just
to
learn
more
about
the
history.
I
mean
that's
really
so
important
to
understand
and
then
move
forward.
N
Wonderful,
thank
you.
There's
still
lots
of
work
to
be
done.
There's
still
lots
of
work
to
be
done
so
be
prepared
for
that
as
well.
I
there
were
definitely
stretches
where
I
spent
half
my
work
week
on
on
just
pwsa,
but
hopefully
that
won't
be
every
week
because
there
have
been
yeah,
there's,
sometimes
heavy
lifts,
because
it's
it's
critical
right.
N
We
all
know
that
it's
critical
to
our
daily
lives,
it's
critical
to
the
city's
future,
and
I
think
there
are
going
to
be
difficult
decisions
for
you
to
make,
but
the
opportunity
to
know
that,
as
I
think
dr
murrell
said
to
really
create,
not
just,
I
think,
greater
sustainability,
but
really
growth
in
the
wellness
right
in
a
way
of
really
rebuilding
the
strength,
I
don't
even
say
wealth
of
for
actual
citizens
in
the
city,
instead
of
it
being
a
negative
and
a
drain
on
our
city
in
our
in
our
actual,
like
individual
household
wealth.
N
C
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
members
who
want
to
chime
in
seeing
none
one?
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all,
I'm
familiar
with
all
of
your
work,
except
for
mr
miss
cristela.
Excuse
me,
although
I'm
familiar
with
your
organization,
and
I
do
think
that
what
I
know
of
all
of
you-
you
absolutely
are
looking
out
for
the
common
man
for
those
most
in
need
for
those
under
the
most
pressure
within
our
city.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
on
this
critically
important
board.
C
Mr
kellum,
I'm
obviously
very
familiar
with
your
work
as
well,
and
the
commission
that
you're
going
on
to
is
is
as
important
as
it
ever
has
been
during
these
times.
I
believe
last
year
they
may
have
had
around
100
cases
or
so
reported,
and
that
I
expect
that
number
to
go
up.
C
I
expect,
as
we
continue
to
have
police
reform
discussions
and
justice
and
equity
discussions,
that
more
cases
will
be
coming
your
way,
and
so
your
commission
is
as
important
as
it
ever
was,
and
so
I
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
I
think
we'll
have
an
interesting
discussion
around
your
commission
when
it
comes
to
budget
season
with
that
being
said,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us
this
morning.
C
You
all
will
come
up
for
a
vote
next
week
and
I'm
pretty
sure
you
all
be
confirmed,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
your
new
roles
and
capacities
here
within
the
city.
C
With
that
being
said,
it
is
10
28.
Therefore,
we
will
move
directly
into
our
standing
committee
agenda.
So
I
want
to
say
good
morning
to
everyone
and
welcome
to
our
standing
committee
agenda
for
wednesday
september.
9
2020
council
will
continue
to
meet
virtually
on
tuesdays
and
wednesdays
until
further
notice.
All
meetings
will
stream
live
on
the
city's
youtube
channel.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comments.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
C
C
O
I
guess
someone
has
disabled
my
video
restored.
C
I
I'm
not
sure
we
do
see
your
then
spin
logo.
If
you
could
maybe
just
begin
your
three
minutes.
O
Okay,
so
basically,
I
I
think
dead,
grocery
speaking
out
on
a
water
situation,
but
some
of
the
key
notes
that
I
took
down
from
listening
to
her
concerns
was
that
before
in
the
past,
they
were
unable
to
keep
track
of
what
was
going
on
with
the
water
lines
and
also
she
mentioned
that
they
had
a
terrible
tech
system
set
up
and
that's
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
tech.
O
As
I
mentioned
yesterday,
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
encourage
the
same
interest
in
technology
as
we
have
for
real
estate
here
in
pittsburgh.
As
african
americans,
we
need
to
increase
our
value
in
the
tech
sector.
O
We
have
to
secure
our
seat
in
this
space
and
make
sure
that
we're
at
the
table
when
the
talks
and
discussions
take
place.
We
are
tech
too.
We
use
it,
we
create
it
and
we
influence
formidable
functionalities
that
people
in
our
communities
can
benefit
from
the
notion
that
we
don't
belong,
comes
from
systematic
racism
and
with
any
other
barrier.
This
is
one
that
we
need
to
break
through
now,
but
we
have
to
do
this
strategically.
O
We
can't
rely
on
referrals
from
these
individuals
or
institutions
that
have
already
been
in
place
and
haven't
done
much
on
our
behalf
on
our
behalf.
They'll
only
exploit
our
needs
and
take
money
meant
for
us
to
develop
and
succeed,
and
with
that
being
said,
if
anyone
needs
a
go-to
or
a
second
opinion
contact
me,
my
name
is
william
parker,
I'm
the
ceo
of
vince,
then
I'm
here
to
help
get
people
through
the
door
and
bring
along
a
lot
more
and
with
that.
P
L
Okay,
greetings
to
all
giving
honor
and
reverence
and
respect
the
noble
warrior
ancestors
who
came
before
us
whose
shoulders
I
stand
upon.
It
is
our
charge
and
it
is
our
duty
to
restore
tranquility
harmony
and
balance
to
the
earth
following
the
blueprint
and
the
guy
our
ancestors
left
behind.
I
am
because
we
are.
L
L
There
once
was
a
time
when
peace
reigned
as
the
normal
way
of
life
for
aboriginal
american
people
mislabel
indians.
There
once
was
a
time
where
we
heal
ourselves
with
that.
What
nature
provides
the
earth
or
for
the
healing
of
nations
as
we
watch
others,
you
serve
our
resources
and
extract
them,
which
today
will
be
called
stealing.
L
L
L
They
offered
an
apology
on
january
4th
of
2007.,
whereas
the
ancestors,
the
aboriginal
american
people,
that
I
speak
for
today,
we
inhabited
our
land.
We
are
the
stewards
of
our
land
and
until
we
are
at
the
table
to
discuss
the
issue
concerning
aboriginal
american
people
that
have
been
mislabeled
black
new
growing
colors,
none
of
the
efforts.
C
Q
Q
Fundamentally,
these
technologies
can
only
serve
to
reflect
and
amplify
structural
biases
inherent
in
our
current
system
of
policing,
for
instance,
predictive
policing
uses,
biased
and
deeply
flawed
data,
such
as
historical
arrests
or
proxies
for
neighborhood
divestment
and
poverty.
In
order
to
make
predictions
about
where
crime
will
occur.
Next
over
police,
black
and
brown
neighborhoods
will
be
more
likely
to
be
registered
as
locations
for
potential
future
crime.
As
the
arrest
data
going
into
these
models
is
biased.
Q
This
means
that
the
predictions
of
where
crime
will
occur
will
also
be
biased,
generating
feedback
loops
that
further
and
further
perpetuate
the
criminalization
of
pittsburgh's
communities
of
color.
No
one
left
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
or
cmu
champions,
predictive
policing
and
it
has
been
technically
halted.
Pittsburgh
police
say
they
don't
use
facial
recognition.
Q
This
means
that
this
should
be.
You
know,
but
this
would
not
cause
disruptive
action
to
pass
this
bill,
and
I
predictive
policing
has
been
shown
to
be
ineffective
by
iran.
Corporation
study
on
the
city
of
chicago's,
use
of
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition,
technology
has
been
banned
by
several
cities
already,
as
well
as
predictive
policing
by
at
least
one
city
and
pittsburgh
could
join
those
those
leaders.
Q
In
particular,
I
support
the
black
activist
organizer
collectives
demands,
which
include
the
demand
to
end
the
criminalization
of
black
people
by
stopping
surveillance,
facial
recognition,
collection
and
targeting
of
black
organizers
activists
and
community
members,
and
ending
predictive
policing,
stopping
location,
monitoring,
disclosuring
all
bids
on
surveillance
and
probation
surveillance
and
disclosing
current
and
past
surveillance
initiatives.
Any
move
in
that
direction
is
certainly
welcomed.
I
urge
city
council
to
ban
the
use
of
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
technologies
and
to,
in
general,
discourage
the
adoption
of
technological
solutions
for
issues
that
require
other
kinds
of
reforms.
B
R
Okay,
hello,
my
name
is
steven
stamey
and
I've
lived
in
the
friendship
area
for
the
past
39
years.
When
I
moved
here,
this
area
was
all
crack
houses
and
houses.
Many
people
moved
here
and
helped
clean
up
the
crime.
The
filth
and
the
graffiti
people
did
the
work
it
takes
to
change
an
area
of
pittsburgh
for
the
better.
We
put
stop
signs
in
where
there
were
none.
We
fixed
the
street
lights,
trimmed
bushes
and
trees.
Now
it
is
a
well-lit
safe
place
to
live.
R
There
has
not
been
an
accident
at
this
intersection
in
front
of
my
home
for
the
past
30
years.
Because
of
this,
did
anyone
ask
the
people
living
here
if
we
wanted
a
50-foot
painting
of
clowns
and
balloons
or
anything
else
that
people
can
imagine,
did
you
bother
to
ask
or
mention
that
this
plan
has
been
in
the
works
for
the
past
nine
months
and
nobody
bothered
to
tell
the
homeowners
who
live
here?
R
What
is
being
proposed
is
nothing
more
than
graffiti.
There
is
no
such
thing
as
asphalt
art
and
the
25
to
75
000
that
will
be
spent
plus
constant,
upkeep
and
maintenance
on
the
site
is
money
wasted?
The
city
is
bankrupt
and
apparently
owes
110
million
dollars
over
top
of
what
they
usually
owe,
and
they
can't
afford
this.
R
The
proposed
traffic
changes
are
ridiculous
and
dangerous
and
will
eliminate
much
of
the
existing
parking.
How
are
school
buses,
ems
trucks,
fire
trucks,
ambulances
and
access
to
all
these
delivery
trucks
approved
recently
by
the
city.
The
roads
are
too
narrow
for
normal
traffic
as
it
is
with
or
without
parked
cars.
B
R
Of
the
apartments
not
any
of
the
commercial
establishments,
so
they
will
park
in
friendship.
The
people
proposing
these
traffic
changes
do
not
live
at
this
intersection
and
won't
have
to
look
at
this
thing.
Every
day,
bill
peduto
likes
the
idea
and
deb
gross
apparently
likes
the
idea,
maybe
put
it
in
front
of
their
homes.
R
Ms
gross
lives
in
highland
park
on
a
wide
street
just
wide
enough
for
clowns
and
balloons.
Maybe
use
this
money
to
actually
help
children
who
are
hungry
or
in
danger.
Stupid
ideas
from
stupid.
Uninformed
people
lead
to
stupid
things
happening.
This
is
not
a
canvas
for
real
art.
This
is
my
home.
Please
cheapen
your
own
neighborhood
and
leave
us
alone.
S
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
caitlin,
bruce
I'm
a
resident
of
lawrenceville,
I'm
calling
to
support
a
ban
on
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
because
it
functions
to
further
disenfranchise
and
marginalize
black
and
brown
communities.
Technologies
are
only
as
good
as
their
designers.
Dr
sophia
noble,
has
a
book
called
algorithms
of
oppression.
S
That
argues
that
algorithmic
technologies
reflect
the
biases
that
are
already
endemic
in
society,
and
so
it's
highly
likely
that
a
technology
like
predictive
policing
will
just
further
reinforce
the
biases
and
the
violence
that
are
endemic
to
policing,
and
we
also
know
that
this
is
the
case
in
a
city
like
pittsburgh,
where
there's
a
history
of
police,
violence
against
people
of
color,
and
so
I'm
also
calling
to
support
the
black
organizer
collective
demands
about
productive
policing
and
to
call
for
you
know,
focusing
on
on
programs
that
don't
criminalize
people
based
on
racist.
S
T
In
particular,
I
support
the
black
activist
organizer
collective
demands
of
the
city
and
county,
which
includes
the
demand
to
end
the
criminalization
of
black
people
by
number
one,
stopping
surveillance,
facial
recognition,
collection
and
targeting
of
black
organizers
activists
and
community
members,
and
two
ending
predictive
policing,
stopping
location,
monitoring,
disclosing
all
bids
on
surveillance
and
probation
surveillance
and
disclosing
current
and
past
surveillance
initiatives.
T
T
T
There
is
no
way
to
divorce
bias
from
this
model,
when
the
very
data
that
is
used
to
generate
this
model
is
biased.
So
I
urge
city
council
to
ban
the
use
of
predicting
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
technologies
and
to,
in
general,
discourage
the
adoption
of
technological
solutions
for
issues
that
require
other
kinds
of
reform.
Thank
you.
U
Hi,
my
name
is
chai
smith
and
I'm
a
resident
of
bloomfield.
I'm
calling
also
to
support
a
ban
on
the
use
of
predictive
policing
and
special
facial
recognition
technology
in
pittsburgh,
as
stated
by
others,
facial
recognition
technology
has
been
shown
to
have
racist
biases
and
is
based
on
racist
ordeals
as
neighborhoods,
which
are
already
over
policed.
U
It's
been
said
that
in
the
trial
runs
for
predictive
policing
that
it
should
be
done
in
a
place,
it
should
be
tested
in
a
place
in
which
they
can
properly
figure
out.
What's
going
wrong
to
troubleshoot
and
to
be
able
to
have
a
place
where
crime
is
high,
pittsburgh
is
not
that
place.
It
has
been
shown
that
the
police
have
many
go
on
many
of
their
own
racist
ideas
and
there
are
deaths
like
antoine
rose.
U
Our
police
are
not
to
be
trusted.
They
need
to
be
held
accountable
for
their
actions
and
until
we
get
a
better
handle
of
our
police,
we
cannot
be
using
these
police
to
input
data
into
a
system
which
again
is
continuing
the
feedback
loop,
which
is
targeting
black
and
brown
people
more
than
others.
It
is
also
not
facial
recognition.
Technology
has
not
been
shown
to
be
as
effective
on
black
and
brown
people
or
trans
people,
and
this
is
at
their.
U
This
is
at
to
their
demise,
we're
not
even
supposed
to
be
using
this
technology.
Pittsburgh
uses
this
technology,
it
uses
excuses,
it
says:
oh,
it
falls
under
digital
research.
However,
it
has
said
many
a
time
that
it
will
not,
and
yet
it
keeps
doing
it.
Our
city
is
not
responsible
enough
to
use
this
technology,
which
is
not
going
to
get
us
any
further.
So
please
ban
this
in
specific.
U
I
also
support
the
black
activist
organizer
collective
and
the
demands
of
the
city
and
county,
which
include
the
demand
and
the
criminalization
of
black
people
by
stopping
surveillance,
facial
recognition,
collection
and
targeting
of
black
organizers
activists
and
community
members,
and
ending
predictive
policing,
stopping
location,
monitoring,
disclosing
all
bids.
On
surveillance
and
probation
surveillance
and
disclosing
current
and
past
surveillance
initiatives,
thank
you.
C
B
C
I
they
were
here
at
one
point.
I
now
do
not
see
them
yvonne,
richer.
Our
next
speaker
is
rebecca
zito.
C
V
V
Today,
I'm
calling
to
talk
about
an
issue
that
is
most
pertinent
in
our
topical
news,
but
I
think
stretches
back
to
the
founding
of
america
and
our
principles
itself,
the
main
one
being
our
right
to
liberty.
P
V
Invasive
as
something
like
facial
recognition
or
or
wiretapping,
so
it
was
just
over
conversations
and
mail
and
now
seeing
how
much
surveillance
has
evolved
and
how
it's
applied
in
a
totalitarian
countries
like
china,
for
instance,
I
for
one,
do
not
want
to
see
that
type
of
technology
stateside
to
me,
it's
an
it's,
an
affront
on
our
rights
to
be
under
constant
surveillance
and
to
have
our
faces
in
the
database
where
they
can
be
tracked
and
worst
case
scenario
stolen
and
leaked,
as
has
happened
to
some
prominent
activists
in
pittsburgh.
B
V
I,
for
one,
don't
want
to
be
tracked
and
I'm
assuming
a
lot
of
other
people
do,
because
that
is
a
founding
principle
of
this
country,
the
right
to
privacy
and
individual
liberty,
and
so
I
hope
that
this
council
will
ban
the
use
of
facial
recognition,
predictive
policing
by
the
pittsburgh
police
department.
Thank
you.
W
W
W
I
work
for
a
fortune
500
company
as
a
natural
language
data
specialist
and
while
I
primarily
work
with
written
and
spoken
language,
I
am
also
interested
in
pictorial
data
recognition,
both
as
a
professional
and
personal
interest
of
mine.
I
also
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I
am
here
speaking
as
an
individual
and
not
on
behalf
of
my
employer,
and
you
have
heard
from
other
speakers,
and
hopefully
you
will
continue
to
hear
about
the
dangers
of
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
technology
as
it
targets
marginalized
communities.
W
W
Keeping
data
are
keeping
information
about
people
that
should
that
they
ought
not
to
are
going
to
end
up
paying
over
half
a
bill,
half
a
billion
dollars
in
a
settlement
for
keeping
biometric
data
that
they
should
not
have,
and
mega
corporations
like
clearview
ai,
have
earned
global
condemnation
for
their
misuse
of
the
implementation
of
these
technologies,
and
if
we
are
not
able
to
trust
the
corporations
that
have
the
biggest
access
to
resources
and
money
to
fund
these,
I
fail
to
see
how
we
should
trust
really
any
corporation,
to
implement
these
safely
and
effectively.
W
W
In
addition,
as
we
continue
with
the
coven
19
pandemic,
we
are
also
going
to
be
needing
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
the
way
that
we
move
forward
with
facial
recognition
is
going
to
alter,
as
we
are
now
hopefully
going
to
only
be
exposing
the
top
halves
of
our
faces.
W
And
this
sub,
this
quite
substantially
changes
the
the
model
that
we
should
be
working
on.
I
want
to,
like
others,
support
the
black
activist
organizer
collective
demands
of
the
city
and
county,
which
includes
the
demand
to
end
the
criminalization
of
black
people
by
stopping
surveillance,
facial
recognition,
collection
and
targeting
of
black
organizers.
K
Hi,
oh
I'm
sorry,
this
is
sarah
and
I'm
ready
to
go
whenever
you
would
like
me
to
sorry.
K
Okay,
my
name
is
sarah
birmingham
and
I
live
in
the
garfield
neighborhood
of
pittsburgh,
like
others,
I'm
calling
in
concern
for
the
continued
criminalization
of
black
and
brown
people
through
technology,
such
as
facial
recognition
and
predictive
policing.
K
I
unequivocally
support
a
ban
on
the
use
of
these
technologies.
In
particular,
I
support
the
black
activist
organizer
collector
collective
demands,
which
include
the
demand
to
end
the
criminalization
of
black
people
by
stopping
surveillance,
facial
recognition,
collection
and
targeting
of
black
organizers
activists
and
community
members,
and
ending
predictive
policing,
stopping
location,
monitoring,
disclosing
all
bids
on
surveillance
and
probation
surveillance
and
disclosing
current
and
past
surveillance
initiatives.
K
As
a
graduate
student
in
information
and
computer
science,
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
to
remind
those
unaware
of
the
fundamental
premise
that
garbage
in
equals
garbage
out
or
that
our
computational
tools
are
only
as
good
as
the
people
who
design
them
and
only
as
objective
as
the
information
that
they're
fed
the
idea
of
algorithms
as
dispassionate
and
even-handed.
Administrators
of
justice
is
a
myth,
because
our
data
on
crime
is
notoriously
incomplete,
easily
manipulated,
severely
undermined
by
racial
bias
and,
at
times
outright
fabricated.
K
Many
studies
show
similar
rates
of
drug
abuse
and
domestic
violence
in
affluent
white
neighborhoods,
as
in
low-income
minority
neighborhoods,
but
predictive
policing
will
only
continue
to
punish
one
of
these
groups,
while
letting
the
other
continue
to
perpetuate
harm.
Imagining
that
we
have
the
capability
and
the
tools
to
predict
crime
in
a
meaningful
way
at
this
point
in
time
is
unbelievable.
Hubris
on
the
part
of
misled
politicians
and
delusional
scientists.
K
I'd
like
to
close
with
a
quote
from
dr
cathy
o'neil,
author
of
weapons
of
mass
destruction,
big
data
processes
codify
the
past.
They
do
not
invent
the
future
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition.
Technologies
are
not
scientific,
they
are
not
fair,
they
are
not
just
and
they
do
far
more
harm
than
good.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
X
Hi,
council,
members
and
other
people
in
the
public,
my
name
is
joseph
ganim
and
I
live
in
oakland,
I'm
23,
so
I
don't
know
a
lot,
but
I
would
like
to
add
a
statement
for
the
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
hearing.
I
just
graduated
from
cmu
with
a
degree
in
computer
science.
I
don't
speak
on
behalf
of
cmu,
but
I
did
research
on
a
similar
project
as
this
crime
hot
spots
project
for
a
class.
I
didn't
implement
it,
but
I
had
similar
ideas
and
they
came
from
the
wrong
place.
X
X
Y
Hi
there,
my
name
is
laura
perkins.
I
live
in
friendship
before
I
get
to
my
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
procedural
suggestion
that
if
we
don't
know
the
gender
of
folks
to
use
the
term
they
it's
more
respectful,
since
we
can't
make
assumption
I'm
here
to
make
a
public
comment
in
the
support
in
support
of
the
ban
on
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition,
our
black
and
brown
communities
are
not
guinea
pigs.
Y
I
personally
work
at
kaka
san
jose,
I'm
the
emergency
response.
Organizer.
I
see
ice
detentions
and
I
respond
to
ice
detentions
and
family
separation
in
the
pittsburgh
area.
Pittsburgh
is
a
welcoming
city,
but
facial
recognition,
software
and
predictive
policing
do
not
go
along
with
that
title.
Facial
recognition
and
predictive
policing
disproportionately
target
black
and
brown
people.
Y
As
many
folks
have
commented
already,
there
was
a
program
which
was
an
extension
of
what
this
proposal
is
in
chicago
and
in
the
end
it
put
50
percent
of
black
men
between
the
ages
of
20
and
29
into
a
database
that
essentially
said
that
they
are,
they
should
be
targeted,
50
of
black
men
between
the
ages
of
20
and
29..
This
is
clearly
a
racist
program
that
we
cannot
support
in
terms
of
immigration.
Y
Y
I
encourage
the
this
council
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
either
pennsylvania,
aclu
american
civil
liberties
union
or
the
pittsburgh
chapter,
which
are
obviously
very
connected
to
better
understand
this
topic,
because
the
fact
that
it's
even
being
introduced
is
is
a
travesty.
Y
We
cannot
have
any
exceptions
or
loopholes
to
the
ban
on
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition,
and,
as
many
folks
have
already
mentioned,
the
black
activist
collective
have
already
talked
about
this
and
set
up
a
very
clear,
propose,
a
very
clear
set
of
12
demands
which
address
this.
So,
instead
of
they
are
the
people
we
need
to
talk
to,
they
are
the
people
that
need
to
be
consulted,
reach
out
to
them
and
talk
with
them
and
ask
them
about
their
policies.
Y
C
Thank
you
very
much
that
exhausts
our
list
of
speakers.
For
the
day
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
standing
committee
agenda.
Would
a
clerk
please
take
the
role.
A
C
C
Z
Madame
clerk,
are
we
working
off
of
version
two?
I
have
two
agendas
for
the
morning.
Can
you
tell
me,
please:
are
we
working
off
of
what
was
labeled
version?
Two?
Yes,
thank
you
very.
L
C
Any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
Thank
you
cards
are
approved.
Take
us
to
public
safety
services
committee
chaired
by
mr
o'connor.
One
deferred
bill
bill,
647.
AA
AA
Sure
I
was
going
to
amend
the
bill,
but
then
I'll
I'll
just
do
that
right
now
and
then
talk
about
the
bill,
so
the
amendments
there's
they
came
from
law
and
public
safety,
the
ones
from
law,
basically
iron
out
the
criminal
history
records
that
we
have
to
put
in
there.
In
case
you
know,
for
some
reason
and
based
on
the
speakers
and
a
lot
of
support
that
we've
gotten
for
these
bills.
AA
If
in
the
future,
if
a
bill
like
this
were
to
come
up
to
approve,
there
are
some
privacy
issues
with
regards
to
individuals,
privacy
that
council
members
would
not
be
privy
to
if
this
bill
were
to
come
up
and
somebody
were
to
explain
why
this
technology
would
ever
be
needed.
But
if
it
would,
you
can't
go
into
specific
details
about
that,
so
that
was
something
from
the
law
department.
AA
With
regards
to
public
safety,
there
were
some
technical
words
that
they
would
like
to
be
add,
as
well
as
an
extenuating
circumstance,
for
example,
if
we
unfortunately,
I
don't
like
to
discuss
this,
but
if,
for
example,
mass
shooting
were
to
occur
and
the
individual
was
still
on
the
loose
that
they
could
tap
into
some
state
or
federal
technologies
to
help
catch
that
criminal
or
if
there
was
a
bombing
extenuating
circumstances
like
that,
if
there
were
extenuating
circumstances
and
it
went
past-
I
believe
30
days,
then
they
would
have
to
come
back
to
council
to
get
approval
to
extend
that
if
that
individual,
who
was
committing
those
horrible
acts
of
violence,
was
not
caught
at
that
point,
so
that
was
worked
out
through
public
safety
over
the
last
week.
AA
So
those
are
the
two
amendments
or
well
there's
a
couple
amendments,
but
those
were
the
two
main
ones.
Everything
else
was
basically
redefined
and
then
moved
to
a
different
section,
so
everybody
is
on
board
with
that
thank
public
safety
as
well
as
law
for
getting
us
those
amendments
over
the
weekend.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
speakers
today.
I
want
to
thank
council
members
who
I
spoke
to
about
this
issue,
and
I
think
you
know
at
this
point
in
time.
AA
C
L
C
I
think
I
saw
three
hands:
reverend
burgess
then
I
believe
I
saw
councilwoman
krause
and
then
councilman
wilson.
AB
So
I
am
thankful
that
all
of
the
speakers
were
supporting
brown
and
black
communities
and
have
our
best
interests
at
heart.
AB
AB
There
is
a
resident
resident
see
hesitation
to
to
tell
or
to
work
with
the
police,
I'm
also
of
the
belief
that
we
need
to
reduce
the
size
of
our
police
force,
and
I
am
also
hesitant,
if
we're
going
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
force,
to
also
reduce
the
amount
of
tools
that
they
have
and
the
technology
that
they
have
now.
I'm
grateful
for
these
amendments,
but
it's
going
to
take
me
some
time
to
really
look
at
them
and
figure
out
what
impact
they
have
on
the
communities
that
I
serve.
AB
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
hold
this
piece
of
legislation
to
give
me
some
time
to
talk
to
law
myself,
I'm
grateful
for
for
all
the
support
for
those
people
who
are
theoretical,
who
are
who
are
who
are
not
theoretically,
who
are
who
are
voicing
support
for
the
people
that
I
represent,
not
that
I
represent
all
of
them,
but
I
represent
a
good
chunk
of
them,
and
so,
if
this
legislation
is
designed
to
encourage
and
protect
those
people,
I
need
to
see
that
understand
that
before
I
can
support
it.
AB
So
I'm
grateful
for
all
the
work
everyone's
done.
I
look
forward
to
examining
the
bill
in
great
detail.
You
know
my
staff
restart
earlier
this
week
and
the
original
bill,
which
we
were
not
clear
about
these
amendments,
show
some
things
I
may
want
to
offer
some
amendments
myself,
and
so
I
want
to
you
know,
examine
it
in
some
detail.
AB
I
hope
that
we
hold
this
and
then
to
give
me
some
time
to
do
my
due
diligence,
because,
even
though
we
don't
own
the
technology,
it's
my
understanding
that
we
do
have
access
to
it
through
other
sources,
and
I
am
really
really
concerned.
AB
You
know
that
there
that,
when
a
homicide
occurs
in
a
black
community,
we're
not
that
we
are
prohibited
from
somehow
of
using
every
available
technology
to
solve
that
crap,
and
so
I'm
going
to
to
to
just
that.
Those
are
my
concerns.
AB
I
thank
the
bill's
author
for
a
sponsor
for
bringing
it
forward
and
I
will
spend
the
next
week
or
so,
with
my
staff
really
really
in
conversations
and
with
other
council
people.
So
I
can
understand
this
at
this
point.
I
really
do
not
understand
this
bill
well
enough
to
support
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
AC
Yes,
this
is
assistant
director
schmidt
here
in
place
of
director
history.
She
has
another
meeting
to
attend.
I
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
bill
and
what
your
thoughts
are
in
the
amendments
and
and
is
the
department
supportive,
it
sounds
like
councilman
o'connor
did
all
his
work.
Working
with
everyone
is
the
department
support
of
this
of
the
newest
amendments.
AC
We're
still
reviewing
those-
and
we
actually
just
received
an
opinion
last
evening
from
law
on
the
amendments
that
we're
still
trying
to
review.
So
we
would
support
holding
this
as
well,
so
to
give
us
more
time
to
review
all
the
proposed
amendments
and
further
discussion
with
council
as
well
as
law
on
this.
I
Side
I
want
to
be
honest,
I
don't
mind
I
don't
mind
holding
because
I
actually
told
councilman
o'connor.
I
asked
for
an
opinion
from
the
law
department
for
these
bills
for
reverence
bills
that
we
already
passed
and
for
any
future
bills,
because
I
think
that
whenever
we're
doing
something
that
pertains
to
public
safety
or
public
health,
we
have
to
do
our
due
diligence.
I
We
can't
just
all
throw
legislation
on
the
table
and
and
hope
that
we're
making
a
change
when
the
fact
is
a
lot
of
the
legislation
I've
seen
I
mean,
I
think
we
really
need
to
do
something
comprehensive
so
that
we
really
are
seeing
the
change
that
we
want
to
see.
Overall,
and
I
mean
we
may
disagree
on
what
those
changes
are.
But
I
think
that
we
need
to
work
together
to
get
to
a
place
where
we're
all
comfortable.
I
But
having
said
that,
I
I
I'm
not
opposed
to
to
to
some
of
this
legislation,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
happens
that
you're
working
together
with
councilman
o'connor
to
get
to
a
place
where
he
can
get
his
his
bills
passed
because
it
seems
like
he's
been
working
on
this,
for
you
know
for
a
little
bit
of
time.
I
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
something
that
the
law
department,
because
I
had
kept
hearing-
that
there
were
some
some
concerns
with
the
legislation
and
just
that
they
needed
some.
Some,
maybe
some
technical
changes
in
the
wording,
but
if
he
was
working
with
the
law,
department
and
public
safety,
I
don't
understand
why
those
still
exist.
I
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
overlapping
the
time,
because
we
just
got
the
opinion
late
last
night
or
yesterday,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
as
we
move
forward
we're
working
together
and
more
in
a
more
comprehensive
way
and
working
with
the
public.
We
need
some
of
the
people
to
come
to
the
table
that
have
concerns,
but
we
also
need
to
have
the
public
safety
department
and
law
department.
I
Everyone
together
moving
forward,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
moving
forward
anything
that
comes
before
this
council,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
we
get
legal
opinions
on,
and
I
did
talk
to
reverend
burgess
about
his
bills
yesterday
and
just
said
just
to
make
sure
that
everything
we're
doing
is
is
done
in
a
way
that
is,
is
legally
correct
and
that
can't
be
challenged
and
or
shouldn't
be
challenged.
I
So
with
that
said,
I'm
okay
with
the
one
week
hold.
I
don't
know
if
councilman
o'connor
feels
comfortable
holding
for
a
week
so
I'll
leave
that
leave
that
for
waiting
for
some
discussion,
but
I'm
comfortable
holding
for
one
week.
I
think
that
if
the
administration
wants
one
week,
the
director
wants
one
week,
it's
it's
one
week
for
something
very
serious,
and
but
I
think
that
in
the
end
we'll
have
a
piece
that
we
could.
You
know
that
was
that
is
legally
correct
and
written
really
well,
so
I'm
supportive
of
a
whole.
I
C
So,
thank
you,
madam
president.
Next
we
have
councilman
wilson.
AD
Yes,
thank
you,
so
I
I
applaud
councilman
o'connor
for
putting
forward
this
cutting
edge
legislation,
and
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
real
opportunity
a
day
like
some
of
the
operations
that
happen
within
the
within
the
department,
and
I
find
this
to
be
a
very
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
pieces
of
legislation.
I've
come
forward
since
I've
been
on
account.
AD
For
instance,
there
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
data
behind
you
know,
supporting
or
not
supporting
the
bill
with
the
national
institutes
of
science
and
technology
that's
referenced
in
the
bill
to
make
its
case,
you
know,
I
find
I
find
that
that
that
information
is
very,
very
helpful
and
to
know
that
there
are
99
different
products
out
there
pieces
of
software
that
offer
different
algorithms
with
each
within
each
of
those
99
pieces
of
software
and
I'm
uncertain
currently
where
we
are,
which
one
which
software
do
we
send
out
to
which
you
know.
AD
I've
heard
that
we
you
know
that
we
send
out
some
images,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
public
safety
could
speak
to
that,
how
we
currently
operate.
I
mean
I'd
like
to
have
that
conversation,
but
I
could
also
get
some
clarity
during
that
week
hold
if
that
was
an
opportunity.
AD
AA
AD
AA
AA
AA
AA
We
got
our
amendment
from
the
law
department.
We
got
our
amendments
from
public
safety.
We
had
a
meeting
with
public
safety
two
weeks
ago.
They
sent
over
their
amendments,
they
still
have
till
tuesday
if
there's
anything
that
they
want
to
change
and
we
can
recommit
it.
But
at
this
point,
if
there's
not
going
to
be
any
drastic
changes
to
it,
I
don't
see
a
need
to
hold,
but
I'd
rather
have
that
vote
now.
AA
AD
Thank
you
councilman.
I
you
know
my
concern.
AA
AA
AA
B
AA
Is
to
hold,
I
would
rather
have
somebody
make
the
motion
to
hold
in
second,
and
we
take
that
vote
now,
rather
than
going
through
the
bill
line
by
line
and
then
coming
back
and
doing
it
again
and
making
amendments.
So.
C
C
That's
okay:
councilman
wilson
still
has
the
floor.
He
asked
for.
I
see
you
councilman
gross.
He
asked
for
the
opportunity
to
have
an
interrogatory
with
councilman
o'connor
to
see
about
his
willingness
to
hold,
and
I'm
hearing
councilman
o'connor
say
is.
If,
if
members
want
to
hold,
he
would
rather
you
do
that
now,
as
opposed
to
we
go
through
a
very
long
conversation
with
that
being
said,
councilman
wilson
still
has
the
floor
and
there
are
members
who
did
raise
their
hand,
who
still
want
to
speak.
Councilman
wilson.
AD
I
just
want
to
mention
that
you
know
I
think
it's
important,
that
we
daylight
some
of
what
we're
talking
about
since
some
of
the
commenters
and
some
of
the
emails
that
I've
received
may
not
truly
understand
our
current
operations
with
this,
this
type
of
technology,
which
we
don't
own
and,
quite
frankly,
we
have
the
power
to.
We
already
have
the
power
to
vote
on
software
that
comes
to
the
table,
so
this
is,
you
know.
I
understand
that
you
know
it's
good
to
put
an
ordinance
in
to
you
know.
AD
Let
the
public
know
that
we're
serious
about
what
we're
talking
about,
but
also
at
the
same
time.
You
know
we
we
we
do
have
this
power,
I
mean
every
every
imp,
software
that
comes
through.
That's
our
responsibility,
so
I'm
just
curious
on.
You
know
what
that
looked
like
how
like
what
is
different
about
this
versus
what
we
typically
do.
Every
time
software
comes
to
council
and
also,
I
think,
it'd
be
good
for
the
public
to
hear
our
current
operations
in
the
use
of
this.
AD
For
instance,
I
had
I
had
two
homicides
a
week
and
a
half
ago
in
my
district-
and
you
know,
I'm
just
curious-
is
like-
was
any
of
this
technology
used
to
try
and
bring
any
any
justice
to
the
families
and
and
really
understand.
You
know
how
we
use
this
technology.
I
mean
I
I
understand
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
anyone
to
be.
You
know,
survey
under
surveillance
and
technically
we
don't
do
that
and
you
know,
but
you
know
in
the
language
it
talks
about
false
positives.
AD
It
talks
about
the
use
of
the
use
of
this
surveillance
and
and
how
it's
bad,
but
you
know
I
saw
a
public
source
article
where
it
references
one
out
of
32
arrests
recently
in
the
protests-
and
you
know
so
that's
only
one
of
32
and
what
was
the
reason
for
that
I
mean
I
would.
AD
I
would
be
interested
in
talking
about
parameters
and
also
guardrails
on
this
type
of
on
this
type
of
action,
so
that
we're
not
just
loosely
using
this
on
on
any
one
case,
and
I
appreciate
that
there
is
language
in
there
currently
to
you
know,
support
to
have
access
to
this
if
there
was
an
emergency
situation,
so
I
think
we
can
I'd
like
to
you
know
I'll
I'll
I'll.
Let
my
time
go
right
now
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
those
comments.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
it
I
think,
we've
all
heard
a
lot
of
public
support
for
a
ban
on
predictive
policing.
N
I
just
want
to
recap
a
little
bit
that,
on
what
we
understand
is
the
difference
between
kind
of
using
evidence
and
using
predictive
policing
or
using
facial
recognition
technology,
because
I
feel
like
that
is
you
know.
This
is
a
little
bit
brave
new
world,
often
when
the
public
and
council
kind
of
get
to
new
types
of
technology,
whether
it's
in
any
any
city
department.
N
N
Confident
in
my
own
understanding,
I
think,
like
councilman
burgess
also
mentioned,
and
so
you
know
to
point
out
that
there
are
definitions
on
the
second
page
of
the
amended
legislative
version,
but
I
just
want
to
read
some
of
those
that
new
underlying
language
out
loud.
N
I
think
there
are
with
both
benefits,
but
also
maybe
deficits
right.
There's
there
really
is
kind
of
almost
outlets
or
I
want
attempted
to
say,
loopholes
in
those
definitions.
So,
for
example,
facial
recognition
technology
is,
you
know,
generally
understood
as
a
computer-based
software
program.
N
So
the
machine
could
be
doing
this
without
any
human
knowing
it.
And
it
says
that
here
without
a
subject's
knowledge,
consent
and
then
the
underlined
bolded
new
phrase
here
and
in
automated
or
semi-automated
manner.
N
So
even
this
version
of
this
bill
stop.
If
we
all
voted
yesterday,
I
read
this
new
language
as
it's
not
stopping
in
the
pittsburgh
police,
a
human
in
the
police
department
directing
them
to
look
for
deb,
gross's
biometric
measurements
and
then
go
scan
all
social
media
for
deb
gross,
go
straight
in
all
street
cameras
for
deb
gross,
go
look
for
deb
gross
because
a
human
asked
it
to
seems
to
be
allowed
here.
N
There
might
be
an
upside
for
some
members
and
some
members
of
the
public,
but
a
downside
for
others
right
this.
This
version
of
this
bill
and
the
new
phrase
in
an
automated
or
semi-automated
manner,
in
the
definition
of
facial
recognition
technology.
Embedding
that
automation
in
the
definition
of
the
technology
means
that
it
could
be
directed
by
a
human
and
similarly
with
predictive
policing
technology.
N
It's
the
new
language
says
in
a
fully
or
partially
automated
computational
application
or
based
on
machine
learning
or
artificial
intelligence.
So
if
it
was
based
on
again
human
definition
and
human
application,
an
officer
in
the
police
department
directs
it
this
parole
would
permit
it
so
to
profile.
Basically-
and
the
rate
I
understand,
predictive
policing
technology
is
to
use
kind
of
some
other
data
from
independent
unrelated
to
you
to
basically
indicates
that
you
fit
a
type.
N
So
it's
like
it's
basically
like
profiling,
but
it
also
profiles
places
so
the
characteristics
of
a
neighborhood,
basically
or
a
location,
and
also
the
type
of
individuals
who
kind
of
just
are
similar
to
whatever
data
was
put
into
the
profiling,
and
I
hear
people
saying
that
that's
also
kind
of
just
a
violation
of
our
freedoms
right
to
not
walk
around
being
suspected
of
being
criminal
actors
just
because
of
the
place
we
are
or
some
type
that
we
are
and
that's
how
I
understand
those
objections
and
there.
N
But
there
is
a
great
deal
of
language
added
to
this
draft
that,
frankly,
I'm
just
seeing
you
know
this
morning,
so
it
does
well,
I'm
really
supportive
of
the
I
told
counseling
of
conor.
I
would
I
would
vote
it.
I
am
happy
to
vote
the
provisional
vote
today.
N
I
think
we
all
have
a
bit
to
digest
and
keep
up
with
right,
and
so
that
is,
I
think,
another
element
here
that
I
think
cities
across
the
country
are,
and
citizens
are
just
coming
to
learn
more
deeply
about
what
are
these
capacities
and
what
are
we
comfortable
with
and
what
are
we
not
comfortable
with,
and
how
do
we,
if
we're
not
comfortable
with
it?
How
do
we
effectively
ban
it,
and
so,
while
I'm
happy
to
vote
today,
I
do
think
that
those
couple
of
aspects
need
further
exploration
right.
N
How
are
we
allowing?
Are
we
just
uncomfortable
with
the
automation
part,
or
are
we
also
uncomfortable
with
putting
the
tools
in
officers
hands
when
they
are
allowing
both
a
mining
of
information
and
on
their
own
cognizance,
like
without
a
warrant,
and
are
we
also
comfortable
uncomfortable
with
automating
profiling
of
places
and
people?
N
But
are
we
comfortable
with
the
police
department
having
a
human
directed
profiling
of
people
in
places,
and
so
to
me,
that's
the
kind
there's
a
different
line,
a
divide
here
that
we
haven't
talked
about
before
that
I'm
seeing
in
the
new
language,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
those,
and
I
think
we
may
not
get
to
a
comfort
level
for
even
in
one
week.
N
But
I
would
like
still
like
to
hear
more
about
what
we
are
doing,
because
I
I
I
don't
understand
fully
what
that
answer.
Is
that's
not
a
deep
enough
answer
for
me.
N
I
would
like
to
hear
more
fully
what
our
department
is
doing
and
what
they
are
not
doing,
and
how
are
they
still
working
with
the
universities
and
to
what
extent-
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
transparent
so
that
we
can
all
know
about
it
at
the
same
time,
and
I
think
there
was
one
more
point,
but
I've
kind
of
lost
it
now.
So
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
AA
I
just
sorry,
mr
chair,
I
just
on
councilman
gross's
point
the
automated
language
that
changed
in
there.
It
won't
go
through
so
we're
trying
to
clarify
like
sending
it
through
a
program
where,
at
any
time
you
couldn't
at
this
point,
stop
an
officer
from
going
online
and
looking
up
social
media
by
him
or
herself.
So
that
was
why
we
tried
to
make
it
clear
that
an
automated
system,
but
I
hope
that
is
why
automated
was
added
to
that
portion
of
the
language.
But
thank
you
all
right.
N
Right
can
I
just
respond
at
that?
I
know
I
have
also.
I
had
a
horrible
double
homicide
in
district
seven
that
was
and
that
the
the
suspect
who
was
eventually
convicted
was
found
through
the
timing
of
you
know,
cameras
on
the
street
and
bank
cameras.
I've
also
worked
with
neighbors
in
neighborhood
problems,
who
you
know
where
it
was
the
the
it
made
it.
It
was
important
to
get
more
cameras
installed.
We
have
minor
crimes
that
are,
you
know
the
suspects
are
identified
by
doorbell
cameras.
AA
Z
Z
Z
If,
if
members
wish
to
hold
today,
I
will
support
the
whole
if
member
wishes
members
wishes
are
to
go
through
and
then
recommit
next
week.
If
we're
not
fully
satisfied,
I
appreciate
it.
I
can
support
that.
I
think
what
we're
struggling
with
here
is
that
we
all
understand
the
importance
of
this.
We
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
Z
We
are
waiting
through
complicated
technologies
and
trying
to
find
our
way
to
balance
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
constituency
that
we
serve
the
the
clear
concerns
they
have
about:
empowering
law
enforcement
to
solve
and
resolve
resolve
horrible
crimes
that
have
taken
place
in
each
of
the
council
districts
that
we
represent
and,
at
the
same
time,
balance
that
power
with
the
responsibility
to
never
use
it
in
predictive
or
harming
or
damaging
ways
that
focus
solely
on
certain
groups
of
people.
Z
I'm
going
through
the
law
opinion
and
the
amendments
as
we're
having
this
discussion,
and
I
texted
councilman
o'connor
and
said
it's
giving
me
a
headache,
because
I'm
I'm
trying
to
to
put
it
all
through
and
make
certain
that
I'm
making
the
right
decision
on
an
incredibly
important
and
yet
complex
manner.
I
just
need
some
time
to
just
to
see
it
through.
That
does
not
mean
that
I
will
not
support.
Ultimately,
I
will
support
there's.
Z
There's
there's
no
doubt
in
my
mind,
but
I
want
to
support
understanding
that
we
have
achieved
as
best
we
can
the
delicate
balance
that
I
think
we
are
struggling
to
find
and
in
in
light
of
comments
that
councilwoman
gross
made.
I
would
reiterate
to
say
that
I
believe
this
is
this
is
technology
that
will
be
ongoing.
It
will
not
be
the
first
time
that
we
as
a
council
will
wrestle
with
this
or
try
to
understand
it,
and
I
don't
believe
the
actions
that
we
take
now
are
going
to
be
final
and
definitive.
Z
I
think
these
are
going
to
be
ongoing
conversations
that
will
keep
coming
back
to
the
council
and
we're
going
to
need
to
as
understand
as
technology
moves
and
things
change
and
new
systems
become
available.
We're
once
again
going
to
be
charged
and
challenged
with
making
finding
that
that
difficult
balance
that
empowers
law
enforcement,
but
does
not
enrich
law
enforcement
to
overstep
and
serves
in
the
best
interest
of
the
constituency
that
we
serve.
Z
C
If
not,
I
will
simply
say
before
I
come
to
you,
madam
president,
that
I'll
sort
of
echo
conor
mckraus's
supports.
I
was
prepared
to
support
the
bill
and
ultimately
will
support
the
bill,
but
if
members
need
an
additional
week
to
digest
it
to
fully
understand
it,
as
well
as
as
reverend
burgess
said,
may
look
at
additional
amendments
to
the
bill,
I'm
supportive
of
their
of
that
effort.
This
is
not
currently
utilized,
so
I
don't
think
a
one-week
hold
would
be
detrimental
to
the
bill,
but
I'm
hoping.
AB
AA
B
C
C
Z
Yeah,
I
know
this
is
an
important
endeavor
for
the
councilman.
I
know
he
has
the
best
intents
of
heart
and
is
working
diligent
to
to
bring
this
to
fruition,
and
I
don't
want
it
to
go
said
that
the
council
appreciates
the
effort
and
the
the
efforts
that
have
been
made
now
and
and
support
that
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
councilman
to
bring
it
to
fruition.
C
Absolutely
with
that,
the
bill
was
held
one
week
so
that
will
move
us
on
to
our
public
works
committee
chaired
by
mr
coghill.
We
have
two
new
papers:
bill,
656.
I
B
E
B
C
Jose
the
voa
is
recommended
that
takes
us
to
land
houston
economic
development
committee
chaired
by
councilman
wilson,
one
new
paper
bill,
662.
E
AD
My
director
say
you're
hard
at
work
I
wanted
to.
I
just
want
to
ask
you
if
you
could
brief
us
on
legislation.
662.
AE
Sure
so
what
the
request
to
city
council
is
for
the
department
to
be
able
to
go
through
a
memorandum
of
understanding
to
receive
technical
services
from
the
national
resources
defense
council.
This
was
this
was
a
grand
opportunity.
You
know
this.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
get
technical
resources
again.
There's
no
money,
that's
coming
to
the
city
for
this
for
their
food
matters
program,
and
so
what
it
is
is
that
they
will
provide
you
know,
kind
of
best
practices.
AE
You
know
they're
working
in
cities
like
denver
and
baltimore
right
now
that
are
kind
of
noted
to
be
more
progressive
on
things
like
the
recycling
of
food,
waste
composting
and
other
other
similar.
You
know
kind
of
work
around.
You
know
around
waste.
This
does
fit,
and
is
you
know
something
that
came
as
an
action
of
the
city's
climate
action
plan
which
was
done
by
the
department?
AE
And
so
you
know
the
intention
is
that
you
know
we're
gonna,
be
you
know
using
that
you
know
using
their
their
knowledge
their
background
in
other
cities
to
be
able
to
outline
where
we
can
work.
Some
ideas
that
have
already
come
up
have
been.
You
know,
can
we
be
working
better
with
senior
centers
once
that
you
know
once
pandemic?
Is,
you
know,
has
a
you
know?
Has
you
know
more
back
to
kind
of
regular
operations
in
our
healthy,
active
living
centers
around
food?
AE
You
know,
can
we
be
using
city
land
in
certain
ways,
I
think
you
know
be
generating
recommendations
and
program
development
from
this
work
with
nrdc
but
other
than
city
staff
time
you
know
of
you
know
of
one
of
our
planners,
there's
no
other
expenditures
to
the
city.
AD
Okay,
you
said
that
they've
worked
with
with
other
cities,
and
you
mentioned,
I
think
you
alluded
to
some
of
the
the
action
points
that
could
take
place
after
this
study.
What
what
are
some?
What
are
some
initiatives
that
have
been
taken
in
other
cities
that
you
know
after
they've
done?
This
study.
AE
You
know,
like
I
said
I
mean
a
lot
of
it-
has
been
around
how
to
better
yeah
I
mean
a
lot
of
this
program
is
really
how
to
better.
You
know
kind
of
handle
food
waste
and
be
able
to
address
issues
of
food
waste,
and
so
we
are,
you
know
again.
Pittsburgh
is
one
out
of
ten
cities
that
have
been
selected.
You
know
you
know
for
this
initiative.
The
intention
is
to
you
know,
is
to
to
prevent
food.
AE
You
know
excess
food
waste
in
all
of
these
cities
and
and
like
so
that's
that's
the
major
focus
you
know
like
I
said
some
of
the
you
know
some
of
the
the
cities
that
you
know
we'll
be
learning
from
primarily
in
our
baltimore
denver
that
have
done
these
food
waste
audits.
You
know
where
they've
looked
at,
you
know
at
things
around
city
operations
and
how,
through
city
operations,
we
can
better
reduce
food
waste.
AD
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
thanks,
thanks
for
explaining
that
appreciate
your
time,
yep.
I
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
also
working
with
council
members,
if
you
recall
the
women's
caucus
in
particular
councilwoman
gross
and
councilwoman
strasberger,
had
been
really
really
interested
in
this
and
and
trying
to
work
on
this
for
over
a
year
now
in
terms
of
composting,
and
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
there
is
some
communication
with
council
members,
it's
great,
that
you're
working
with
other
people,
it's
great,
that
you're
working
with
the
residents
and
neighborhoods.
I
But
you
need
to
also
work
with
council
members
and
in
particular
I
would
like
some
more
conversation
and
dialogue
with
councilman
gross
and
councilman
strasberger.
Thank
you.
AE
We
can
definitely
do
that.
Madam
president,
as
as
right
now
we're
just
finalizing
the
mou
so
that
we
can
begin
you
know.
So
we
can
begin
this
work,
but
once
we
do
begin,
this
work
I'll
make
sure
that
staff
do
connect
with
council
members
as
well.
N
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
I
am
very
glad
to
see
this
award.
It's,
I
think,
long
overdue,
that
we
expand
our
municipal
participation.
N
We're
really
fortunate
that,
as
we've
seen
at
council
we've
given
proclamations
to
the
local
non-governmental
organization,
nonprofit
412
food
rescue,
who
has
diverted
millions
of
tons,
I
think
of
food
waste
to
act
back
into
the
food
stream
right.
So
I
think
a
bunch
of
members
and
myself
did
some
promotions
for
where
we
participated
in
a
food
rescue
and
for
myself
it
was
going
to
the
downtown
brewkers
bagels
in
market
square,
because
they
kind
of
dumped
bagels.
After
really
just
a
few
hours
and
our
pickup.
That
day
was
a
large.
N
N
There's
a
place
where
you
pick
up
the
food
waste
but
a
place
that
will
receive
that
food
so
that
people
can
feed
and
fill
hunger
gaps
and
we
dropped
it
off
both
to
a
veteran's
leadership
organization
that
feeds
hungry
veterans
and
to
a
ymca
where
they
also
have
food
pantry,
and
so
it's
they
have
by
virtue
of
their
organization
forward
to
food
rescue.
Again,
it's
an
app.
You
can
get
on
your
phone.
N
Diverted
lots
of
of
food
waste,
there's
another
category
of
food
waste
which
is
not
able
to
be
re-directed
back
into
our
food
stream,
which
is
compostable
so
right.
Now,
as
the
city,
our
food
waste
is
going
out
in
our
you
know,
residential
garbage
right,
you're,
just
putting
it
out
in
your
garbage,
and
it
adds
to
significantly
to
the
tonnage
that
our
trucks
have
are
filled
up
with
and
that
our
trucks
at
their
four
miles
per
gallon
diesel
fuel
drive
15
miles
out
of
the
county.
N
To
then
we
pay
a
tipping
fee
at
a
landfill
to
dump
that
food
waste
into
a
landfill
where
it
just
releases
methane
and
contributes
to
climate
issues,
we're
paying
for
that
vehicle.
We're
paying
for
the
tonnage
to
be
picked
up
at
curbside
and
compost
locally
can
divert
that
so
that
there's
just
less
garbage
on
the
tracks:
less
tonnage.
The
truck's
not
filling
up
as
fast
and
fewer
trips
out
to
that
landfill
and
less
contribution
to
climate
damage
and
but
also
is
really
helpful
to
our
bottom
line.
N
I
also
all
want
to
mention,
since
we're
talking
to
city
planning
today,
that
you
also
talked
to
dpw,
because
I
have
in
my
city
farms
project
in
my
district
and
working
with
community
gardens
two
sites
that
have
been
waiting
for
compost
bins
to
be
built,
so
it
doesn't
even
have
to
take
city
resources.
Really
we
don't
need
to
have
a
full-fledged
municipal
composting,
although
I
would
support
that
as
well.
N
My
constituents
are
already
taking
their
food
scraps
to
other
places
if
they
can't
compost
in
their
own
backyard
and
want
to
be
able
to
do
that
at
their
community
gardens
and
that's
one
of
the
things
then
the
next
bill
later
in
the
agenda,
where
I
keep
apologizing
for
counsel
to,
because
I
keep
having
this
rolling
other
professional
services
agreement.
N
You
know
we're
looking
to
maybe
just
one
of
the
things
that
we're
having
grounded
strategies
do
is
just
come
out
with
the
lumber
and
build
some
compost
bins
on
site
at
this
public
land
that
people
are
already
using
for
community
gardens
so
that
they
can
have
rich
compost
that
they
can
add
to
their
gardens
and
that's
really
a
very,
very
minor
resource.
Commitment
of
on
our
end
right
and
for
being
able
to
divert
waste,
improve
urban
soils,
and
you
know
not
pay
to
have
our
really
out
of
date.
N
Fuel-Inefficient
garbage
trucks,
hauling
it
out
to
a
landfill.
The
institute
for
local
self-reliance
estimates
that
a
municipal
composting
program
can
cut
the
tonnage
of
waste
in
half.
We
would
be
able
to
pick
up
twice
as
much.
We
would
have
twice
the
half
as
much
vehicle
miles
traveled
on
that
fleet
and
it's
just
a
net
win
across
the
board.
So
thank
you
for
having
this
program
and
I
would
love
to
follow
up
about
where
we
can
just
have
some
quick,
easy,
late
urban
tactical
deployments
for
composting.
N
I
have
two
bins
in
my
own
backyard
and
I
know
that
takes
care
of
all
the
food
waste
that
comes
out
of
my
kitchen.
Thank
you
director.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
M
C
J
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
ms
goula
or
whoever
is
the
appropriate
person
to
answer
some
questions
about
this,
since
it
didn't
actually
come
through
the
inp
department.
So
I
didn't
get
a
briefing
on
this.
I'd
like
to
just
learn
a
little
bit
more.
AF
Good
morning,
council
members,
this
is
jennifer
ghoul
and
I
apologize,
but
my
my
video
is
not
working,
but
I'm
the
assistant
director
of
the
finance
department.
J
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
understand
this
is
about
purchasing
of
red,
hawk
machines
to
be
able
to
more
quickly
and
efficiently
get
tax,
something
really
to
taxes
back
out
to
the
public.
But
can
you
just
explain
this
to
me
and
and
specifically
why
or
how
this
will
save
us
money
or
create
more
efficiencies?
I
you
know,
as
you
know,
we're
going
into
a
a
really
difficult
budget
year,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
we're
proving
techno
technology-wise
is
doing
that.
AF
Right,
so
exactly
what
this
is
is
a
machine
that
scans
documents
and
checks
to
be
electronically
deposited
into
the
bank
and
then
the
data
from
the
forms,
the
tax
forms
or
the
tax
payment
coupons,
gets
transferred
into
the
host
tax
system.
In
the
past,
the
city
has
used
lockbox
services
through
the
bank,
which
has
cost
us
millions
of
dollars
in
banking
and
processing
fees.
AF
Some
years
ago,
the
city
moved
all
of
that
in-house,
and
so
we
do
process
all
of
the
major
tax
payments,
real
estate
and
business
taxes,
all
in-house
with
our
own.
Basically
our
own
lock
box
system.
Some
years
ago
we
did
purchase
a
red
falcon
that
we
use
for
the
depositing
and
recording
of
all
the
business
tax
payments.
AF
We
have
a
smaller
ocr
scanner
that
handles
real
estate,
but
with
the
onset
and
the
building
out
of
the
new
tax
system
that
we
hope
to
roll
out
next
year,
we're
looking
to
purchase
an
additional
red
falcon
scanner
to
handle
real
estate
and
any
other
types
of
payments
to
more
efficiently
process
and
deposit.
The.
J
J
All
right
looked
like
I
was
on
mute,
so
I
I
guess
I'm
looking
at
the
bill
language
and
I
see
that
it
looks
like
there
will
be
an
addition.
It's
a
little
bit
hard
to
cuss
through,
but
there
will
be
an
additional.
AF
It'll
be
one
machine
and
the
money
is
actually
coming.
It's
actually
being
incorporated
as
part
of
the
new
tax
system
roll
out.
So.
X
J
And
then
what
about
the
operating
budget
you
mentioned
capital
but
then
operating
there
are
some
changes
to
the
operating
budget
as
well.
There
are
some.
AF
Changes-
and
it
would
be
due
to
rtl
is
actually
the
the
data
like
the
the
software
that
runs
the
validation
data
for
the
scanner
so
and
with
that,
the
operating
cost
almost
like
a
subscription
fee
and
then
maintenance
fees
involved
with
that
which
would
come
out
of
the
operating
budget.
AF
J
Okay,
so,
just
in
in
really
easy
to
understand
language,
this
is
this,
isn't
creating
what
kind
of
efficiencies
for
us?
What?
How
is
this
making
everybody's
lives
easier
and
saving
time,
and
therefore
money.
AF
Well,
it
actually
helps
us
to
process.
We
don't
do
this
by
hand.
The
scanner
will
allow
us
to
automatically
process
all
the
tax
payments
that
come
in
every
day
and
then
electronically
deposit
them
to
the
bank.
So
in
the
past,
we've
actually
physically
done
face-to-face
banking,
where
we
have
had
to
actually
take
the
physical
deposits
and
walk
them
over
and
deposit
them
into
a
bank.
So
it
saves
time.
It
also
saves
us
money,
because
these
it
it
actually
creates
a
data
file
not
just
for
the
tax
system
but
to
the
bank.
AF
J
Z
Z
Jennifer,
thank
you.
I
just
my
question.
I
think,
is
around
how
the
legislation
came
over
twice.
You
might
not
be
the
exact
person
to
answer
it,
but
I
don't
see
the
additional
dollar
expenditure
attached
to
the
legislation.
It's
not
at
least
it's
not
in
our
on
our
agenda,
so
we
are
spending
an
additional
300
plus
thousand
to
acquire
this
technology.
Z
Yes,
okay
and
so-
and
you
might
not
be
able
to
answer
this,
but
I'm
just
curious.
The
councilwoman
is
right
and
and
we're
going
to
say
this,
a
million
times
before
the
end
of
the
year.
We
face
probably
the
most
challenging
budget
season
that
the
council
has
ever.
X
Z
I
don't
know
if
there's
ever
been
such
a
dire
time,
and
so
you
know
watch
the
pennies
and
the
dollars
will
take
care
of
themselves.
The
can
you
approximate
me
the
kinds
of
savings
that
come
back
to
us
after
we
expend
the
340,
odd
thousand
dollars
to
acquire
the
software,
or
I
mean
the
machine.
I'm
sorry.
AF
Well
before
we
actually
started
processing
in-house,
we
would
spend
at
least
a
couple
million
dollars
a
year
to
pay
a
bank
do
exactly
the
same
thing
we
do
now,
wow
so
and
and
and
since
we've
brought
on
the
first
red
falcon,
we
actually
reduced
just
banking
fees
in
general
because,
instead
of
doing
a
trade,
each
transaction-
and
we
would
say
a
transaction-
would
be
a
batch
of
maybe
50
checks
that
we
would
deposit,
but
they
charge
you
for
each
deposit
slip.
AF
So
if
we
did,
let's
say
a
hundred
batches
of
50
checks
that
we
went
and
did
a
face-to-face
banking
transaction,
they
would
charge
us
per
deposit
slip.
This
way
we
get
charged
per
one
transaction,
which
is
a
file
that
gets
transmitted
to
the
bank
and
they
deposit
electronically,
and
we
get
that
the
same
day.
So
our
banking
fees.
Once
we
brought
this
lock
box
system
on
board,
pretty
much
were
cut
in
half
just
to
one
bank
alone.
Just
by
being
able
to
do
that,
so
it's
been
a
huge
dating
step.
AF
I
would
assume
that
it
would
be
the
same
because
we're
using
the
same
process
and
we're
actually
replacing
this
machine
would
be
replacing
an
ocr
scanner
which
doesn't
have
the
same.
It's
a
lot
more
than
what
we
would
be
using.
AF
What
would
actually
allow
us
to
do
is
to
build
this
into
the
new
tax
system
and
with
new
tax
system
they
should
be
able
to
see
like
once,
their
payment
actually
gets
processed
either
a
taxpayer
would
have
an
account
and
they
might
actually
be
able
to
see
right
then,
and
there
that
their
payment
was
pending
instead
of
waiting
for
it
to
be
cashed,
which
is
what
they
have
to
see.
What's
what
they
see
now,
so
so,
there's
savings
on
time.
Their
savings
on
staffing,
which
would
be
at
a
costing
sauce
as
well.
Z
So
this
is
also
probably
another
question
you
can
answer,
but
if
you
can,
I
I'd
appreciate
it.
Do
you
have
an
approximation
of
the
lifespan
of
a
machine
like
this?
Can
we
can
we
count
on
it,
saving
us
the
millions
of
dollars
in
bank
fees,
I'm
all
for
that.
You
know
well
into
like
the
next
five
to
seven
years
I
mean.
AF
I
for
sure
I'm
I'm
hoping
and
I'm
assuming
and
I
don't
like
to
assume,
but
it
would
probably
be
for
at
least
10
years.
I
can
verify
that
and
and
send
you
an
answer
definitively,
but.
Z
No,
no,
I
trust
your
judgment.
I
I
just
want
to
have
a
sense.
You
know
this
council
has
wrestled
with
this
from
the
day
that
councilman
burgess
and
I
walked
in
the
door
to
today.
Your
technologies
changes
on
a
dime
and
you
know
and
we
invest,
and
then
we
realize
we
haven't,
made
sound
investments
and
we're
reinvesting,
but
I
trust
your
judgment
on
this.
I
I
I
cannot
justify
millions
of
dollars
in
banking
fees
to
deposit
tax
collection,
which
is
the
bread
and
butter
of
of
city
operation.
Z
C
Thank
you,
president
smith.
N
You
I
appreciate
it.
Similarly,
these
are
those
were
great
questions.
I
appreciate
both
councilwoman
strasberger
and
councilman
krauss.
Asking
those
questions.
I
just
thought
kind
of
one
additional
thing
came
to
mind.
While
you
were
talking
schoola
is
I
one
of
the
things
that's
on
my
mind
with
our
current
revenue
shortfalls?
N
Is
that
it's
imperative
that
checks
not
be
sitting
around
undeposited
right?
So
it's
not
just
about
the
total
amount
that
has
come
in
by
the
end
of
the
year.
It's
a
cash
flow
issue
as
well.
So
is
there
additional?
Can
you
speak
to
that?
I'm
assuming
this
is
not
saving
us
only
savings
bank
fees,
which
is
fantastic,
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
about
the
saving
of
bank
fees,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
with
a
new
scanner,
that's
automatically
depositing
these
as
an
ach
you're
collecting
your
revenue
sooner.
N
N
AF
Before
we
actually,
there
still
is
at
least
with
business
taxes,
a
lag
because
even
with
the
scanner,
there
is
a
lot
of.
I
guess,
verification
that
takes
place
in
order
to
push
the
ach
payment
to
the
bank
due
to
the
complication
or
the
complexity
of
the
tax
forms
themselves,
which
are
being
filled
out
by
individuals
they're.
So.
AF
We
are
about
four
weeks
behind,
so
it
cut
cut
it
in
half
it
cut
it
in
half.
Yes,
and
that's
not
working,
I
mean
for
a
good
portion
of
the
pandemic.
They
were
not
operating
at
full
time
and
in
full
capacity
right.
N
Right
so,
as
we
kind
of
hopefully
add
capacity
with
staffing,
but
then
also
with
this
investment,
which
I'm
comfortable
with
also
not
only
because
of
the
savings,
but
also
because
this
is
mostly
a
capital
budget,
investment
that
is
pre-budgeted
and
the
money
is
enhanced.
Basically-
and
it's
not
coming
out
of
our
operating
budget,
which
is
seeing
shortfalls,
there's
just
a
marginal
increase
in
the
operating
budget,
one
that
it's
made
up
for
by
the
savings.
N
So
I'm
really
glad
to
see
that
I
look
forward
to
seeing
those
kind
of
arrears
come
down
right
so
that
we
are
I've
had
just
at
the
beginning
of
covet.
You
know
I
had
a
couple
of
phone
calls
about
people
who
still
kind
of
write
their
own
property
tax
check.
N
You
know
by
hand
and
check
and
mail
it
in
who
were
concerned
because
they
hadn't
seen
their
check
be
cash,
but
I
you
know
it
did
they
did
get
to
it
and
it
hadn't
been
lost,
but
there
was
concerns
from
people
that
their
their
payments
been
lost,
but
more
so
that,
as
our
cash
flow
tightens,
we're
going
to
have
to
make
sure
we
do
everything
on
our
end
to
make
sure
that
revenue
gets
deposited
as
quickly
as
possible.
N
AF
M
E
Bill
661
resolution
amending
resolution
738,
which
provided
for
a
professional
services
agreement
with
ncr
corporation
to
provide
city-wide
credit,
debit
and
e-check
payment
services
for
the
collection
of
various
program
and
permitting
fees
for
the
city.
By
exercising
the
option
to
extend
the
term
of
the
agreement
for
one
year
at
no
additional
cost
and
updating
the
name
of
the.
J
Vendor
to
approve
brief
discussion
briefs,
so
this
one
basically
handles
our.
We
moved
a
lot
of
our
permitting
and
other
fees
to
have
the
capability
of
accepting
credit
cards
and
debit
cards
and
e-payments
rather
than
having
to
pay
with
cash
in
person,
and
this
really
just
extends
the
contract
and
the
thirty
thousand
dollar
implementation
cost
has
already
been
expended,
so
there's
no
additional
cost.
So
I
have
no
questions.
I
just
want
to
explain
that
to
council
and
voice
my
support.
I
J
I
B
C
Z
N
N
That
would
be
like
the
kind
of
remainder
of
the
a
project
such
as
building,
compost,
bins
or
doing
some
of
the
maintenance
work
to
assist
in
managing
volunteers.
As
I
mentioned
last
time,
it
is,
it
is
going
slowly.
So
I
think
last
time
I
did
a
two
week,
cold
and
I'll
this
time
on
motion
to
hulk
for
three
weeks.
Thank
you.
E
Fuel
658
resolution
adopting
the
planned
revisions
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
official
soil
facilities,
plan
for
a
safe
place
to
stay
project
which
will
involve
interior
and
exterior
renovations
to
the
existing
eight-story
building,
located
at
326
third
avenue
into
office
space
on
floors,
one
through
six
and
a
rooming
house
on
floors,
seven
and
eight
for
a
safe
place
to
stay
program.
The
building
address
is
326
third
avenue.
C
Sure,
no
I
mean
it's
a
it's
on
third
avenue.
It's
already
existing.
Well,
the
building's
already
there.
Essentially,
what
they're
doing
is
built
is
creating
a
space
where
anyone
with
drug
issues
or
drug
problems
would
be
able
to
simply
walk
in
or
you
could
walk.
Someone
in
with
you
to
say,
hey.
I
need
a
space
to
be
able
to
get
clean,
sober
and
I
need
some
assistance
you're
designing
it
whereby,
on
the
top
floors,
you'll
have
your
own
sort
of
individual
room.
They
won't
ask
any
questions.
C
They'll
allow
you
to
come
in,
but
then,
after
that,
you'll
be
able
to
work
with
the
families
to
determine
whether
or
not
you
need
to
stay
there
long
term.
Whether
or
not
you
need
to
transition
to
a
different
facility,
but
essentially
it
gives
you
a
place
to
get
in
off
the
street
and
provide
a
safe
place
for
you.
N
We
experienced
such
massively
massive
urbanization,
so
huge
increases
in
population
that
it
was
the
fastest
way
to
kind
of
house
people,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
accommodation
if
we're
we're
trying
to
do
a
housing
first
strategy,
where
we
realize
as
many
other
cities
most
important
thing
is
to
just
help.
People
get
off
the
street
first
thing
that
I
really
would
love
to
see
more
of
these
kind
of
like
single
room,
occupancy
solutions
that
I
think
can
be
done.
Well,
they
don't
have
to
be
a
skid
row.
N
C
Any
further
discussion
being
done,
those
in
favor
say
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
the
bill
is
approved
recommended
so
that
exhausts
our
agenda.
We
do
have
one
meeting
announcement
that
this
evening
at
6
p.m.
Council
will
hold
a
cable
cast
public
hearing
on
bill
618,
which
is
a
petition
relative
to
the
installation
of
roundabouts
on
reynolds
street
aka.
The
neighbor
way
to
register
to
speak
at
this
hearing.
Please
call
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138
by
4
pm.
C
Today
you
may
also
submit
written
testimony
via
email
to
city
clerk's
office
at
pittsburghpa.gov,
any
other
motions
or
thoughts
from
council.
Madam
president,.
I
Just
real
briefly,
I
we
had
last
week
the
passing
of
gene
fink,
a
school
board
member
and
of
ralph
norman,
who
was
our
sergeant-at-arms
for
city
council
years
ago.
They
both
passed
away
and
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
mention
of
that
and
give
a
moment
of
silence
for
both
of
them.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
anything
else
from
members
seeing
none.
We
need
a
motion
to
excuse
that
excuse
the
absent
member
approve.
The
minister
adjourn
the
meeting.