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A
A
B
Oh
good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council's
post
agenda
on
lead
and
lead
safety.
Not
only
will
this
affect
the
visitors
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
also
the
entire
region.
We
have
a
great
panel
with
us
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
number
of
issues:
evolving
lead.
I
know
the
biggest
one
for
us,
obviously
with
pwc
for
so
many
years
has
been
led
in
our
pipes,
but
we
also
want
to
discuss
lead
scene
other
places
and
a
lot
of
people
forget
about
that.
B
I
also
see
that
councilwoman
debra
gross
joined
in
and
she
is
actually
co-sponsoring
this
post
agenda
with
us,
and
I
want
to
thank
her
for
her
leadership
while
she
was
at
pwsa
and
now
just
talking
about
the
lead
issue
overall,
so
we
have
four
great
panelists:
we're
going
to
pass
it
off
to
michelle
right
now
to
explain
what
the
panelists
background
is
going
to
be,
what
they're
going
to
talk
about
and
and
then
from
there
after
their
presentations,
we'll
open
it
up
to
council
members.
B
I
also
want
to
first
of
all
thank
michelle
for
setting
this
up.
A
number
of
great
organizations
helped
us
to
get
this
ready,
we're
also
joined
by
councilwoman,
erica
strasberger
as
well.
So
this
is
a
really
important
meeting
for
us.
I
think
it's
good
to
get
information
about
lead
just
within
our
own
system
locally,
but
also
ways
in
which
we
can
fix
this
problem
in
the
future,
with
with
regards
to
hopefully
some
future
legislation.
B
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
all
of
the
council
members
that
are
here
joining
us
this
afternoon.
We
appreciate
your
attendance
to
learning
more
about
the
topic.
Thank
you,
council
and
o'connor
and
councilwoman
gross
for
your
sponsorship
of
today's
event
in
discussion,
and
I
wanted
to
just
give
a
brief
introduction
of
our
guests
that
are
here
today.
Dr
bruce
landfield
you'll
see
in
your
corner.
There
you
go.
I
will
be
speaking
to
you
about
the
health
impacts
of
lead
from
a
scientific
perspective.
C
He
is
the
expert
in
terms
of
health
impacts
and
has
done
much
research
from
a
scientific
perspective,
as
well
as
from
a
pediatric
pediatrician's
perspective
in
terms
of
the
issue
and
and
we'll
share
more
with
us
about
his
research
and
findings
over
the
many
many
many
years
and
decades.
We'll
also
hear
from
mr
len
merritt.
C
Thank
you
from
the
city
of
rochester
and
rochester's
really
been
known
as
the
gold
standard,
and
that
is
what
many
cities
look
to
and
and
look
to
their
experience
and
how
they
have
enacted
lead
ordinances.
C
Many
cities
have
used
that
as
models
across
their
their
city
and
and
in
terms
of
understanding
the
various
ways
that
all
the
systems
in
the
city
work
together
to
making
primary
prevention,
a
strategy
and
a
tool
for
preventing
lead
exposure.
So
thanks
to
you
as
well
next
we'll
hear
from
ms
laurie
horowitz
and
she
is
with
the
allegheny
county
health
department
in
the
housing
division
and
that
division
certainly
sees
folks
in
their
homes
as
it
relates
to
when
a
child
is
identified,
with
an
elevated
blood
level,
essentially
known
as
lead
poisoning.
C
And
so
when
that
happens,
a
home
investigation
occurs,
and
so
her
team
all
are
the
ones
who
go
out
into
the
home
and
identify
the
source
of
lead
and
work
with
the
families
to
resolving
that
situation,
and
then
I'll
just
wrap
up
with
a
a
closing
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
is
some
ideas
for
next
steps.
C
And
again,
my
name
is
michelle:
makarati
chapkis
and
I'm
executive
director
at
women
for
a
healthy
environment,
and
we
helped
to
run
and
support
the
get
the
let
out
pittsburgh
campaign,
which
is
a
public-facing
campaign
to
help
the
community
learn
and
understand
more
about
lead,
and
I
also
am
chair
of
the
led,
safe
allegheny
coalition,
which
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
today.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dr
landfire.
D
D
Screen
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
brief
today,
I
will
not
deal
with
I'm
sure
some
of
the
details
that
you'd
like
to
know
about.
I
would
be
happy
to
meet
with
you
at
a
later
time
around
specific
questions,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
just
an
overview
and
it
really
is
about
the
lingering
legacy
of
lead.
Haven't
we
solved
this
problem?
D
D
What
we've
seen
since
then,
of
course,
is
that
blood
levels
have
come
down
as
lead
was
taken
out
of
first
gasoline
and
then
paints
and
then
lead
service
lines,
consumer
products
and
so
on.
But
what
we're
now
dealing
with
is
this
lingering
legacy?
This
remaining
problem
that
still
contaminates
our
cities.
D
Now
this
graphic
shows
you
how,
as
blood
levels
increase
from
zero
up
to
40.
We
see
the
sharp
decrement
at
the
lowest
levels
in
children's
intellectual
ability
or
cognitive
abilities,
and
this
really
is
counter-intuitive
and
different
than
the
way
most
of
us
were
trained.
D
Now
we
put
together
this
very
short.
This
is
a
little
clip
of
a
video
just
to
show
how
this
works,
because
it's
a
little
counter-intuitive.
So,
let's
give
this
a
shot,
and
I
hope
the
volume
comes
through
the
largest
drop
in
iq
from
lead
exposure
occurs
at
the
lowest
levels
as
the
level
of
lead
in
children's
blood
increases
from
0
to
100
parts
per
billion,
iq
scores
drop
by
about
6
points.
D
In
fact,
the
world
health
organization
and
other
agencies
agree.
There
is
no
safe
level
of
lead
exposure,
so
parts
per
billion
we
can
think
of,
as
in
microgram,
podesta,
so
100
part
per
billion
is
equivalent
to
10
microgram
per
deciliter.
There
is
a
lot
that
goes
on
even
at
these
very
low
levels
and
that
shouldn't
surprise
us.
These
three
cartoons
in
front
of
you
represent
each
of
those.
Little
dots
on
a
child
represent
40
micrograms
of
lead
in
the
bones
of
those
children
or
those
cartoons,
the
one
with
the
most
dots.
D
I
think
it's
going
to
be
on
your
far
right.
That
represents
a
lead-poisoned
child.
The
child
in
the
center
represents
a
typical
child
1960.
So
many
of
us
were
born
at
that
time.
D
D
This
is
probably
the
seminal
study
of
childhood
lead
exposure
and
its
toxic
effects,
and
it
was
done
by
herb
needleman
and
his
colleagues
who
were
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
Well,
herb
was
when
he,
when
he
published
it,
and
what
he
saw
was
that
as
the
amount
of
lead
in
children's
teeth
and
school-aged
children's
teeth
increased,
they
had
increasingly
more
problems
with
following
directions:
being
hyperactive,
impulsive
being
a
daydreamer.
D
What
we
did
is
we
looked
at
a
national
study
and
what
we
found
is,
if
you
compare
the
lowest
33rd
percentile,
that's
in
the
blue
curve
with
the
highest
33
percentile
of
children
in
the
united
states.
We
see
a
subtle
shift
in
the
number
of
adhd
symptoms.
A
typical
child
with
adhd
will
have
about
15
symptoms,
so
this
shifted.
This
shift
in
lead
exposure
from
the
lowest
third
to
the
highest
third
resulted
in
a
difference
of
the
mean
number
of
symptoms
of
one
symptom
in
the
lowest
group
to
three
symptoms
in
the
highest
group.
D
It
doesn't
seem
like
that
big
of
a
deal
does
it,
but
now,
let's
look
at
the
tail.
What
you
can
see
is
the
difference
in
the
fraction
of
children
in
the
lowest
group
having
adhd
is
about
five
percent,
but
that
shift
in
lead
exposure,
which
holds
other
factors
constant,
more
than
doubled.
So
now,
13
of
kids
in
that
high
risk
group
met
criteria
for
adhd
because
of
lead
exposure.
D
D
The
number
of
symptoms
of
children
in
the
blue
curve
who
had
low,
lead
exposure
and
no
prenatal
tobacco
exposure,
that
is,
their
mothers,
didn't
smoke
and
on
average
they
only
had
about
one
adhd
type:
symptom
children
who
were
in
the
top
three
to
three
percent
of
children
with
blood
lead
levels
and
whose
mother
smoked
had
a
mean
of
six
adhd
type
symptoms
right,
but
that's
only
half
the
picture.
Now,
let's
go
back
to
the
tail.
D
We
were
also
able
to
calculate
what
percent
of
children
in
the
united
states
had
adhd
as
a
result
of
lead
exposure,
and
we
estimated
about
one
in
five
children
with
adhd
had
adhd
because
of
lead
exposure.
Now.
Imagine
if
you
will
for
a
moment
if
I
had
created
a
vaccine
or
a
drug
that
could
prevent
one
out
of
five
cases
of
adhd.
That's
about
six
hundred
thousand
cases
of
adhd.
D
I
would
be
I'd,
be
wealthy.
I'd
probably
have
endowed
chairs
being
thrown
after
me,
probably
wouldn't
win
the
nobel
prize,
but
maybe
well.
We
got
a
little
scholarly
attention,
but
not
much
more
than
that,
and
what
that
speaks
to
is
our
willingness
to
invest
in
technologies
which
are
profitable
but
are
unwillingness
to
invest
in
reducing
exposures
simply
because
they
are
beneficial
to
society.
D
D
We
also
know
from
a
study
in
bristol
england
that
pregnant
women
who
had
a
blood
level
greater
than
five
microgram
per
per
deciliter
or
50
parts
per
billion,
were
almost
two
times
more
likely
to
have
a
child
who
was
born
pre-term.
This
is
huge.
Pre-Term
birth
is
about
12
percent.
In
the
united
states.
D
D
Well,
speaking
of
ignoring
things
associated
with
lead,
we
know
that
lead
is
a
risk
factor,
particularly
for
coronary
heart
disease,
that
is
atherosclerosis
of
the
coronary
vessels
that
leads
to
heart
attacks.
Coronary
heart
disease
is
the
leading
cause
of
death
in
the
united
states.
It's
the
leading
cause
of
death
worldwide.
D
We
know
that
is
a
risk
factor
for
both
hypertension,
which
is
a
risk
factor
as
well
for
heart
attacks
and
coronary
heart
disease
and
coronary
heart
disease
itself,
because
in
laboratory
studies,
dosing
animals
with
lead
enhances,
atherosclerosis
by
inactivating,
nitric
oxide,
inhibiting
the
repair
of
the
inside
of
the
vessels,
the
arteries
impairing
new
blood
blood,
vessel
growth
or
angiogenesis,
and
promoting
thrombosis
or
clots.
That's
the
classic
mechanisms
and
that's
what
leads
to
coronary
heart
disease.
D
Blood
is
also
a
risk
factor
for
coronary
heart
disease.
That's
when
your
heart
is
slowly
or
suddenly
suffocated
by
an
obstruction
of
the
arteries
feeding
the
heart.
In
a
national
study,
we
found
that
deaths
increased
sharply
at
blood
levels
below
50
parts
per
billion,
the
level
considered
safe.
There
was
no
threshold
or
safe
level.
D
D
I
want
to
end
up
with
a
couple
slides
that
just
try
to
provide
a
perspective
on
this
long
before
I
even
got
involved
in
studying
the
impact
of
lead
exposure.
There
were
agencies
that
would
battle
over
who
was
responsible
in
the
1970s.
The
epa
did
not
want
to
treat
lead
as
a
criteria.
Pollutant
as
an
air
pollutant,
and
they
said
lead-
was
a
housing
problem,
housing
and
urban
development
hud.
They
didn't
want
to
deal
with
it
either.
D
They
said
it
was
an
environmental
problem
and
even
among
many
of
us,
our
science,
many
of
us
scientists
we
oftentimes,
get
caught
up
in
no,
it's
mostly
soil.
It's
mostly
lead.
It's
I'm
sorry,
it's
mostly
water,
but
in
fact
it's
all
of
these
things
and
we
need
to
if
we
want
a
comprehensive
strategy
to
protect
children
and
the
rest
of
us,
we
need
to
address
all
of
these
things
at
the
same
time
now
the
recipe
to
do
so.
The
steps
needed
to
take
are
fairly
straightforward.
D
First,
we
need
to
set
a
goal
for
all
children.
We
could
start
out
with
what
the
national
summit
led
summit
did,
which
is
to
say
by
2030.
No
child
should
have
a
blood
lead
level
above
white,
one
microgram
per
deciliter
or
10
part
per
billion.
We
need
a
goal.
We
need
something
to
shoot
for,
eliminate
all
non-essential
uses
of
lead
and
develop
regulations
to
further
control.
Lead
exposures,
not
just
lead
in
house
paint
and
lead
water
lead
in
aviation
gasoline
that
still
is
used
widely
in
small
regional
airports,
wheel
weights
that
can
contaminate
the
street.
D
We
also
need
not
only
to
have
health-based
standards,
they
need
to
be
based
on
good
science,
and
even
the
recent
epa
standards
are
inadequate
to
protect
children,
let
alone
whether
we
have
a
health-based
standard.
The
water
standard
that's
currently
used
today,
15
parts
per
billion
is
not
and
never
was
intended
to
be
a
health-based
standard
period.
We
don't
have
a
health-based
standard
for
lead
and
water.
We
use
15
parts
per
billion,
but
it's
not
protective.
D
We
need
to
screen
older
housing
units
for
lead
hazards
before
purchase
or
occupancy
after
renovation
and
abatement
and
as
you've
heard
from
michelle,
rochester
has
developed
an
a
novel
approach
to
this
and
they've
been
doing
this
for
a
number
of
years
and
then
finally
develop
a
strategy
to
replace
lead
lines
and
replace
or
cover
contaminated
soil
before
children
are
exposed,
and
I
just
want
to
end
up
with
a
dedication
to
herb
needleman
our
recent
video
crime
of
the
century.
D
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
it's
I
mean
I
I
learned
a
lot
just
from
from
that,
and
some
of
the
numbers
are
pretty
surprising,
I'm
sure
to
me
and
my
council
members,
I
believe
we
are
passing
it
off
to
len
now.
Is
that
correct
michelle?
That's
right!
Okay,
len!
Take
it
away.
E
Thank
you,
everyone
first,
I
I
would
like
to
say
I
cannot
express
what
a
pleasure
it
is
to
speak
before
you
today.
I
would
like
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
pittsburgh
city
council
for
having
this
presentation
and
the
offices
of
the
women
for
a
healthy
environment.
They've
been
superb.
Ever
since
I've
known
michelle,
I
know
her
passion
behind
everything
that
she's
trying
to
help
do
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
E
So
I'd
like
to
commend
her,
especially
for
knowing
her
as
long
as
I
have
that
she's
she's
in
it
to
win
it
so,
but
you
know
this
is
a
problem
that
rochester
faced
as
well.
You
know
it's
it's
not
something
that
is
new.
As
dr
lanfear
said,
this
is
something
that's
been
ongoing
and
that
still
presents
a
problem
today.
You
know
50
years
ago.
E
You
know
they
had
the
same
problems
that
we're
seeing
today,
and
this
is
what
most
folks
think
has
gone
away
simply
because
we've
built
newer
homes
or
because
you
know,
maintenance
has
gotten
a
little
better,
well
that
that
may
be
in
some
cases,
but
for
the
majority
of
the
cities
in
the
northeast,
it
still
presents
a
huge
problem
when
it
comes
to
the
properties
that
are
still
there.
E
These
are
viable
properties
that,
unfortunately,
most
of
our
most
vulnerable
populations
still
live
in
and
they're
the
ones
subjected
to
a
lot
of
the
lead
hazards
that
are
still
located
in
these
homes.
So
with
that
rochester
decided
when
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
how
many
children
were
being
lead
poisoned
every
year.
I
think
at
that
point
we
had
over
1600
children
being
lead
poisoned
that
you
know
this
was
a
contributing
factor
to
a
lot
of
the
behavioral
problems
that
you
know.
E
We
could
easily
do
something
about
by
interjecting
some
property
maintenance
into
the
code.
That
would
help
to
minimize
the
hazards
that
or
and
hopefully
eliminate
some
of
the
hazards
that
hazards
that
these
children
were
being
exposed
to
and
it
sort
of
went
hand
in
hand
with
what
we
were
doing
already,
but
not
to
the
level
that
the
education
provided
when
it
said
that
if
we
did
a
b
would
occur,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
you
know
with
hand
in
hand
with
the
partners
that
were
out
there.
E
The
advocates
that
were
invested
in
childhood
lead
poisoning
prevention,
the
child
coalition
to
prevent
lead,
poisoning
the
county
health
department,
the
doctors
that
were
the
pediatricians
that
were
involved
all
of
the
partners
came
to
the
table
and
said
hey.
You
know
we
got
to
do
something
about
this
because
we're
going
to
lose
this
generation
if
we
don't,
and
so,
although
there
was
some
pushback
because
not
everybody's
concerned,
you
know
about
someone's
health
when
it
comes
to
a
property
they're
more
invested
in
what
kind
of
profits
they
can
turn
from
that.
E
E
That
can
help
us
to
understand
how
rochester
went
about
doing
what
we
did
to
now.
Dropping
the
lead
poisoning
rate
to
well
below
100
every
year
and
just
bear
with
me
if
you,
if
you
would.
F
C
E
Okay
yeah.
I
know
I
sent
that
to
you
guys
prior
to
this,
so.
F
C
I
will
I
can
try
and
pull
it
up
here
too.
Certainly,.
E
Here
we
go.
Oh.
D
E
E
Yeah,
I
think
you
had
it
michelle.
If
you
could
try
it
again,
there
you
go
and
if
we
could
start
it
at
the
beginning,.
F
E
So
this
is
this
is
our
presentation
that
we
usually
give
to
most
municipalities.
That
would
like
to
say
you
know
we
we'd
like
to
take
some
of
the
finer
points
that
rochester
had
in
his
program.
To
sort
of
you
know
help
us
along
with
ours,
so
we
we've
done
this
multiple
times
over
the
years
to
municipalities
as
far
away
as
oakland
california
to
recently
baltimore
maryland.
E
We've
we've
shared
a
lot
of
information
that
has
helped
them
in
their
programs
to
sort
of
streamline
some
of
the
things
that
help
them
to
sort
of
get
over
the
humps
and
bumps
that
we
had
to
go
through
in
order
to
get
a
implement
our
program.
E
So
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
share
is
hopefully
things
that
can
help
you
guys
in
pittsburgh
to
understand
what
it
was
we
had
to
go
through,
so
that
you
can
sort
of.
You
know
use
that
as
some
of
those
roadblocks
that
you
can
sort
of
sneak
around
without
having
to
deal
with
what
we
did
so
next
slide
michelle.
E
So
the
thing
that
we
had
to
look
at
was
that
rochester
already
had
a
strong
code
enforcement
program
in
place.
This
was
something
that
we
had
always
had
since
1984,
and
we
also
had,
within
our
code
enforcement
efforts,
a
violation
that
said
to
any
property
owner
that
rented
out
a
property
that
you
had
to
mitigate
peeling
paint,
and
so
it
was
easy
for
us
to
sort
of
tie
things
in
together.
What
we
didn't
have
was
the
reasons
why
this
was
important
other
than
from
a
cosmetic
standpoint.
E
E
You
know
the
the
type
of
work
that
we
wanted
done
and
those
problems
that
would
occur,
or
you
know
the
fines
that
would
occur
if
you
did
not
remedy
those
violations
the
same
as
it
would
be
as
if
you
had
a
broken
window.
What
would
happen
if
you
did
not?
E
E
E
How
are
they
going
to
protect
themselves
and
also
protect
the
work
area
that
they
were
doing
to
work
in
so
using
lead,
safe
work
practices,
which
was
something
that
epa
and
hud
tied
in
together
back
in
the
90s?
This
was
going
to
be
pretty
easy
for
us
to
do.
Only
thing
we
had
to
do
was
to
ensure
that
people
were
well
educated
and
how
to
use
those
best
practices.
E
We
also
wanted
to
start
this
program
with
data
to
back
us
up
to
say
this
is
where
the
problems
are,
and
not
only
that,
but
this
is
where
the
highest
level
of
properties
are.
So
we
didn't
start
this
on
a
city-wide
level.
We
started
it
in
a
smaller
area
that
we
determine
would
be
the
highest
risk
area
that
had
the
most
lead
poisoning
cases
childhood
lead
poisoning
cases
and
we
would
start
there.
E
E
So
we
we
started
with
some
presumptions,
as
I
think
most
people
would
would
know.
If
you
know
anything
about
lead
and
its
effects,
as
dr
lam
fear
has
just
illustrated
so
so
well
for
us
most
pre-1978
homes
has
some
lead
in
there.
E
It
may
not
be
in
every
room,
may
not
be
on
every
wall
ceiling
component
in
that
property,
but
in
most
cases
you'll
find
that
there
is
some
level
of
lead
in
that
home,
and
so
we
start
with
a
presumption
that
if
the
owner
cannot
tell
us
through
a
risk
assessment
that
there
is
no
lead,
our
inspectors
go
out
on
that
premises.
That
we're
going
to
assume
that
lead
is
in
that
home.
And
that
then
starts
our
visual
inspections.
E
We
also
check
the
exterior
of
the
property,
because
that's
just,
as
you
know,
problematic
as
the
interior
can
be
with
deteriorated
paint
and
so
we'll
check
all
of
the
surfaces
of
the
exterior,
the
porches
any
sheds
or
anything
that
is
painted
on
the
exterior
fence
and
all
of
these
things
our
inspectors
are,
are
well
versed
in
how
to
do
that.
All
of
them
are
certified
they're
all
lead
us
sampling,
technicians
or
lead
inspectors
or
risk
assessors.
We
do
all
of
that
in-house.
E
So
I
train
as
well
as
one
of
my
staff
members
here
we
do
all
of
our
training,
so
we
save
the
city
a
bunch
of
money.
Instead
of
hiring
a
private
company
to
come
in
and
teach
and
and
certify
us,
we
do
all
of
it
in-house.
E
Now
we
know
that,
with
the
rrp
rule,
the
renovation
repair
and
painting
rule
that
they
use
a
little
bit
different
scenario
when
it
comes
to
square
footage
of
what
needs
to
be
used
as
far
as
less
safe
work
practices
or
having
certifications.
E
Well,
we
wanted
to
be
a
lot
more
restrictive
when
it
came
to
that,
because
we
knew
how
serious
the
problem
was
when
it
came
to
deteriorated
pain
and
its
effects
when
it.
If
that
paint
was
leaded,
we
knew
that
there
would
be
a
lot
of
problems
with
that
as
as
again
as
dr
lam
fear
has
stated
in
his
earlier
presentation,
it
doesn't
take
much
to
affect
the
child
in
that
property.
E
We
also
included
in
their
bare
soil,
because
we
know
that
along
the
drip
line,
if
the
house
has
lead
paint
on
the
exterior,
it
can
pose
a
problem
to
that
child.
If
they're
playing
up
against
the
house
or
walking
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
they
can
track
some
of
that
dust
inside
and
the
same
problems
exist.
E
We
also
use
in
our
violations,
thus
lead
dust
hazards,
meaning
that
if
the
test
fails,
the
owner
has
to
re-clean
and
then
have
that
property
retested.
If
it
fails
again,
then
we
exact
a
penalty,
a
fine
on
that
property,
so
that
that
owner
now
has
to
go
through
other
types
of
mitigation
steps
in
order
to
remedy
that
violation.
E
E
We
have
a
designated
lead
risk
area
which
is
again
70
percent
of
the
city.
We
look
for
deteriorated
paint
in
any
property
that
we
have
access
to.
So
we're
we're
not
just
solely
concerned
about
those
areas
where
there's
a
lot
of
lead.
Poisoning
hide,
you
know,
lead
poison,
childhood
lead
poisoning
rates.
Are
we
want
to
make
sure
that
even
in
areas
that
don't
have
any
childhood
lead
poisoning
ebl
levels
in
in
those
neighborhoods
that
they
stay?
E
That
way,
so
there's
a
reason
for
us
to
do
everything
that
we
do,
and
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
in
those
high-risk
areas,
we're
testing
those
properties
as
well
next
slide,
please.
E
So,
as
you
can
see
from
this
map
all
of
those
areas,
you
know
you
can
see
where
most
of
our
ebl
levels
are.
This
is
all
from
our
county
data
and
again
all
of
this
is
online.
Anyone
can
go
to
the
city
of
rochester
and
find
all
of
this
information,
and
it's
helpful.
It's
helpful
to
to
most
municipality
most
municipalities,
to
know
that
if
they're
sharing
this
information
it
it
makes
more
people
aware
you're,
using
your
resources
to
educate
and
inform
you're
helping
people
to
know.
E
You
know
what
precautions
need
to
be
taken,
even
if
they
have
to
move
to
those
areas,
and
we
know
people
like
to
move
anywhere.
They
want
to
that.
That's
their
right,
but
it's
also
a
right
to
move
into
a
safe
and
decent
house,
and
so
our
inspectors
are
very
good
at
ensuring
that
those
properties
stay
that
way,
and
we
put
all
of
this
information
online
so
that
folks
can
can
make
a
very
good
choice
about
where
they
want
to
live
and
and
and
obviously
these
numbers
can
change
over
the
years
based
upon
movement.
E
E
E
E
E
Any
exterior
clearance
can
be
done
by
our
inspectors
and
we
provide
all
of
that
information
to
the
owners
and
one
other
thing
about
the
bare
soil.
We
also
provide
the
owners
with
mulch.
We
provide
them
with
other
types
of
vegetative
coverings
for
their
properties,
so
we
we
sort
of
help
owners
out
through
this
process.
E
Knowing
that
you
know
there
is
it's
better
for
us
to
have
some
kind
of
assistance
with
them
than
to
leave
them
with
that
property,
the
way
that
it
is
or
fighting
to
get
it
taken
care
of
and
and
absolutely
exposing
the
children
to
that
kind
of
condition.
E
So
any
testing
that
we
have
here
again
outside
of
our
own
inspectors,
which
do
a
lot
of
the
testing
if
there
is
a
violation
which
means
that
our
inspectors
went
inside
of
your
property
and
found
that
there
was
above
the
minimus
level,
peeling
paint.
Then
you
have
to
correct
that
paint.
The
owner
has
to
correct
that
paint.
E
E
E
E
You
know,
can
proper
containment
work
site
containment
that
that's
all
that's
really
required
to
do
the
amount
of
money
that
the
owner
has
to
spend
to
do.
E
So
they're
they're
not
really
using
a
lot
of
money
to
solve
this
problem
or
to
do
this
work,
but
there
are
precautions
that
need
to
be
put
in
place
just
so
that
you
know
tennis
can
be
protected
while
they're
there
signage
is
required.
E
Letting
folks
know
that
this
kind
of
work
is
going
to
go
on
and
that
if
there
are
any
problems
in
there,
the
tenants
can
call
us
and
let
us
know-
and
our
inspectors
can
come
out
and
investigate
and
make
sure
that
the
owners
are
doing
the
right
thing
when
they're
doing
this
kind
of
lead
hazard
reduction
work
next
slide.
E
So
again,
all
of
these
are
out
of
the
tenants
of
what
epa
has
as
their
less
safe
work
practices.
I
I
don't
want
to
go
through
each
of
them.
You
know
individually.
I
think
you
know
everyone
can
find
this
information
online
as
easily
as
any
of
us
could
so.
But
you
know
we
do
have
this
in
places
in
our
on
our
website,
so
that
anyone,
even
if
you're
thinking
of
buying
property
here
in
the
city
of
rochester,
you
can
find
this
information
online
to
help.
E
E
You
have
to
do
this
work
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
Once
you've
been
cited,
we
don't
give
you
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
or
reason
to
say
that
you
can't
do
this
work
right
away.
We've
already
presented
and
cited
you
as
a
hazard
that
needs
to
be
corrected
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
We
have
three
tiers
of
violations
as
far
as
a
priority
of
how
quickly
you
must
mitigate
that
that
issue-
and
you
know
the
lead
ordinance-
is
number
one
on
that
list.
E
So
again,
you
know
these
are
pretty
simple.
We
just
mirrored
what
epa
and
hud
requires
when
it
concerns
lead,
safe
work
practices,
the
the
prohibited
methods
of
paint,
removal
and
making
sure
that
people
do
that,
and
we
find
that
happening
every
so
often
where
there's
someone
outside
scraping
and
sanding
and
doing
all
of
the
things
that
cannot
be
done
and
within
our
ordinance
we
we
have.
E
You
know,
ways
to
ensure
that
that
work
stops.
We
have
stop
work,
orders
that
we
can
walk
up
to
the
owner
and
present.
E
E
So
we
got
so
good
at
doing
what
we
did
that
they
actually
stopped
coming
here
to
rochester,
because
we
were
doing
a
better
job
than
they
could
when
it
came
to
these
kinds
of
actions,
so
we're
very
proud
of
what
we
can
do
here
in
rochester
next
slide.
E
E
E
You
know
again,
it
mirrors
epa's
recommendations
for
exemptions,
and
you
know
we
also
have
in
their
prohibited
prohibition
of
retaliatory
action.
Now
this
is
important
because
most
tenants,
you
know
believe
it
or
not-
and
I
know
you
guys
that
are
in
the
business
of
government-
know
that
from
your
talks
with
people
that
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
put
on
tennis,
not
to
tell
about
violations,
you
know
their
threats
of
remove,
you
know
evicting
them
from
the
properties
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
E
Now
this
is
pre-covered
19,
but
you
know
they're
the
people
just
don't
have
the
funds
or
means
to
move
all
the
time
or
that
easily.
When
a
when
a
hazard
exists
in
their
property,
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
the
hazard
is.
It
could
be
a
hole
in
the
roof
could
be
leakage
at
a
plumbing
fixture.
It
could
be
anything
you
know
that
is
not
safe.
E
So
all
of
that
is
at
their
fingertips
to
know
and
that
information
is
readily
available
to
them
at
any
time.
It
gets
updated
real
time
so,
every
day
as
soon
as
the
button
is
pushed
it
gets
put
on
that
website,
and
they
can
see
that
information
and
that
it
helps
them.
It
really
does
because
people
want
to
know
that
they're
moving
into
a
lead,
safe
house
that
that's
one
less
problem
that
they
have
to
worry
about
in
in
this
day
and
age.
E
E
So
we
couldn't
do
this
without
all
of
the
partners
here
in
places
is
not
just
code
enforcement.
This
is
not
just
you
know
our
inspectors
that
are
led
trained.
We
had
to
have
everyone
on
board.
We
we
had
public
forums
in
our
city,
council
chambers,
where
we
invited
everyone
we
sent
out
flyers,
we
stopped
at
doors.
We
we,
we
beg
people
at
the
corner,
stores
come
to
our
meetings
come
here.
What
we're
gonna
do
come,
come
and
give
us
your
feedback.
E
We
we
talked
to
the
neighborhood
associations,
any
any
neighborhood
group
that
was
out
there
that
was
looking
at
their
neighborhood
and
making
sure
that
you
know
the
properties
in
their
neighborhoods
were.
Were
you
know
up
to
code
and
doing
things
we
told
them
come
on?
This
is
your
time
to
voice
you
know
and
and
and
be
a
part
of
this
we
didn't
leave
out
the
owners.
The
owners
had
a
huge
sadness.
E
This
is
their
property
and-
and
they
wanted
to
know
whether
or
not
they
were
going
to
have
problems
with
this
new
code,
they
they
they
wanted
to
seriously
know
if
their.
If
this
was
all
going
to
be
in
the
hands
of
the
inspector
who
could
come
out
there
and
and
cite
them
just
because
they
they
had
to
have
some
assurance
that
that
wasn't
going
to
be
the
case,
the
real
estate
community,
those
that
buy
and
sell
properties
as
their
business.
E
They
they
needed
to
know
about
this
too,
because
you
know
sales
happen
quickly,
sometimes
and
holding
up
a
cfo
or
a
sale
because
of
you
know
deteriorated
paint
violations.
That's
not
a
good
field,
you
don't!
You
won't,
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
here
to
your
city
and
saying
I
want
to
buy
property
if
you're
doing
those
kinds
of
things.
E
Investor
groups,
there's
people
that
own
500
properties
here
and
you
know
they-
I
rochester-
I
I
know
most
of
you
know
on
the
east
coast
that
rochester
is
one
of
the
hottest
markets
in
the
in
the
in
the
country.
When
it
comes
to
buying
property,
you
can't
even
dream
of
sailing
or
selling
a
property
before
someone's
knocking
at
your
door
and
saying
how
much
we
we
don't
have
any
problems
and-
and
so
I
think
all
of
this
plays
hand
in
hand
as
to
what
we've
done
in
the
past.
E
We
also
have
a
lead
hotline.
We
have
a
led
website
and
even
the
state
approves
of
what
we're
doing
we're.
As
michelle
mentioned
earlier.
Rochester
is
the
gold
standard,
but
you
know
we
take
that
lightly
because
we're
doing
something
that
should
have
been
done
a
long
time
ago
and-
and
we
shouldn't
get-
you
know
patted
on
the
back
for
that.
This
should
have
been
done
a
long
time
ago,
and
I
think
those
municipalities
are
behind
should
be
saying
the
same
thing.
Why?
Why
haven't
we
done
this?
Yet
there's?
E
So
with
that
you
know,
I
won't
go
through
everything
here
on
the
slide,
but
you
know
city
council
had
a
lot
to
say
the
landlords
had
a
lot
to
say
the
administration
had
a
lot
to
say
and
we
addressed
those
issues.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
questions
that
you
should
expect.
These
are
the
things
that
people
want
to
know
and
you
should
have
some
way
of
giving
them
feedback
when
they
ask
those
questions,
you
know,
is
it
gonna?
E
That's
not
what
we're
asking
you,
you
can
make.
Your
property
led
safe,
and
this
is
what
most
owners
found
to
be
the
most
beneficial
they've
taken
that
as
far
as
their
business
model,
there
wasn't
an
increase
of
people
leaving
their
properties
and
saying
I'm
not
dealing
with
properties
anymore
matter
of
fact,
the
only
ones
that
did
leave
were
the
ones
who
should
have
left
and
those
properties
were
snapped
up,
fixed
up
got
people
living
in
them
and
everything
is
as
as
it
should
be.
E
E
So
we
did
everything
here
you
can
see
we
had
to
go
through
everything
as
far
as
hiring
a
lab,
ensuring
that
our
testing
policy
was
in
place
so
that
everybody
was
on
the
same
sheet
of
music,
that
we
had
people
knowing
how
to
do
the
testing
and
and
doing
it
properly.
E
Excuse
me
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
could
have
given
them
as
far
as
doing
the
free
test,
but
you
know
we,
we
vetted
the
companies
out
that
did
the
testing
and
made
sure
that
everyone
was
pretty
reasonable
with
their
pricing
and
we
made
sure
that
people
weren't
getting
ripped
off
by
going
to
one
of
the
private
companies
next
slide.
E
This
is
just
our
and
you
know,
inspection
system
here,
and
I
won't
go
through
that
because
I'm
not
sure
what
pittsburgh
has
at
this
point,
but
we
we
do
have
that
where
our
inspectors
are
out
in
the
field
with
their
own
electronic
information
system.
So
we
don't
res
necessarily
have
to
have
everyone
with
a
paper
report.
Everything
is
done
electronically
and
everything
that
is
done
out
in
the
field
is
a
real
time.
So
the
moment
an
inspector
hits
a
button.
That's
shown
here
in
our
mainframe
system.
E
The
test
itself
is
not
very
expensive.
You
know
it
didn't,
cost
us
a
lot
to
implement
our
program.
So
if
pittsburgh
is
looking
at
that,
you
know
we
they
can
see.
It's
not
a
whole
lot
of
money
that
would
have
to
be
spent
on
on
the
program
such
as
the
one
rochester
has.
E
It's
very
easy
to
do
that.
We
do
have
other
sources
of
income
that
helps
us
out.
The
state
gives
us
money
to
help
offset
some
of
the
testing
that
we
do
and
some
of
the
personnel
that
we
have.
So
that's
where
that
partnership
comes
in
that's
going
to
help
you
out
a
lot
next
slide,
and
these
are
just
some
of
the
numbers
you
can
find
this
on
our
website
as
well.
E
And
this
sort
of
wraps
it
up.
You
know
over
the
years
I'll
I'll,
leave
with
this,
and
then
we
can
turn
off
my
presentation,
michelle.
E
We
we
do
get
audited
periodically
by
the
a
center
for
governmental
research,
so
they
actually
come
out
and
check
everything
that
we're
doing
to
ensure
that
you
know
the
numbers
that
we
report
are
accurate,
that
our
testing
standards
are
accurate,
that
our
folks
are
really
certified
to
do
the
testing
and
and
evaluations
when
it
comes
to
our
reports.
E
So
we
we
get
looked
at
all
the
time
we
get
looked
at
by
the
state
health
department
to
ensure
that
you
know
when
we
go
out
to
a
properties,
our
inspectors
aren't
looking
at
something
and
saying
that's:
okay
kind
of
thing.
We
take
pride
in
what
we
do
and
we
audit
ourselves.
We
make
sure
we
have
senior
inspectors
that
go
out
and
follow
their
staff
every
day
to
make
sure
that
they're
doing
the
right
thing,
because
we
we
we
have.
E
B
Thank
you,
I
think
we're
gonna
go
to
lori
now.
Is
that
correct
from
the
county
laurie?
Are
you
ready.
B
H
I
want
to
echo
my
other
panelists
thanks
for
convening
this
and
having
us
here
to
speak
about
this
extremely
important
issue
today.
So
thank
you
for
having
me
like
michelle
said.
My
name
is
lori
horowitz.
I
am
the
program
manager
of
the
housing
and
community
environment
program
at
the
allegheny
county
health
department,
and
my
program
is
the
one
charged
with
reacting
to
elevated
blood
levels
in
children
and
trying
to
find
ways
to
reduce
lead
exposure
in
the
county.
H
So
I
want
to
talk
about
achd's,
lead
strategy
and
then
I'll
give
a
few
some
data
about
the
county,
as
well
as
the
city
and
council
districts,
to
give
you
all
a
better
picture
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here
in
allegheny
county,
so
achc's
lead
strategy
has
pretty
much
a
three-prong
approach,
so
we
like
to
look
at
surveillance,
intervention
and
prevention,
so
with
surveillance.
The
only
way
for
us
to
know
if
a
child
has
been
exposed
to
lead
is
to
perform
that
blood
lead
test.
H
So
we
want
to
ensure
that
children
are
being
screened
at
ages
about
one
and
two
years
old.
It's
when
they
start
crawling
around
touching
surfaces,
putting
their
hands
in
their
mouths
and
that's
extremely
essential
to
to
find
the
exposure,
that's
happening
and
then
act
quickly
to
mitigate
it,
preventing
further
damage
to
that
child.
And
then
we
also
use
that
surveillance
data
to
identify
areas,
communities,
populations
that
are
at
highest
risk
to
inform
the
actions
we're
going
to
be
taking
in
the
future.
Then
intervention.
H
So
when
a
child
is
oh
wrong
button,
sorry
everybody
when
a
child
is
identified
with
that
elevated
blood
lead
level.
We
want
to
find
the
source
of
exposure
rapidly,
get
out
there
and
look
at
the
home
and
then
offer
that
family
resources
to
help
bring
the
child's
blood
blood
level
down
quickly.
H
And
then
one
thing
we
want
to
look
much
more
to
in
the
future
and
the
ideal
strategy
to
dealing
with
lead
exposure,
especially
as
dr
lanfeara
was
talking
about,
is
reducing
it
in
the
first
place
or
sorry,
avoiding
it
completely
in
the
first
place.
So
we
want
to
put
a
greater
emphasis
moving
forward.
H
We
have
been
recently
and
we
want
to
try
and
push
even
harder
towards
finding
ways
to
successfully
perform
primary
lead
prevention,
lead
exposure
prevention,
so
just
a
brief
history
as
you're
all
probably
aware,
the
the
lead,
the
cl
the
crisis
in
flint
surrounding
lead
that
happened
was
brought
into
the
national
spotlight
around
2016.
Things
started
in
2014,
but
by
the
time
we
were
all
hearing
about
it
and
actions
were
being
taken
was
in
the
2016.
H
So
it
brought
us
some
momentum
to
get
more
attention
back
on
the
issue
that
we
all
knew
had
not
ever
really
gone
away.
So
in
the
past
five
years,
we've
been
fortunate
here
at
the
health
department
to
use
that
momentum
to
move
forward
with
our
lead
responses
and
activities.
So
in
november
of
2016,
we
were
able
to
drop
the
threshold
at
which
we
offer
our
lead
investigations
to
families
from
15
micrograms
per
deciliter
down
to
10
and
then
december
2017.
H
The
lead
task
force
report
was
published
that
was
commissioned
by
our
county
executive,
rich
fitzgerald,
and
included
a
long
list
of
recommendations
that
we've
put
a
lot
of
into
effect
now
and
are
still
using
to
inform
how
we
move
forward
with
all
that
three-pronged
approach
that
I
was
talking
about
january
1st
of
2018,
is
when
we
put
our
universal
blood,
lead
testing
regulation
into
effect
and
then
in
june
2018.
H
In
response
to
that,
to
finding
a
way
to
to
react
to
all
the
extra
children
that
we
were
identifying
through
the
increased
blood
lead
testing,
we
were
able
to
create
three
new
full-time
equivalent
positions
at
the
health
department.
H
So
that's
a
level
that
we
can
use
right
now
to
be
able
to
react
and
say
we
know
that
a
child
above
that
has
an
elevated
blood
lead
level
and
we
want
to
get
out
there
to
see
what
we
can
do
and
then,
more
recently,
in
september
of
2019,
we
were
able
to
add
a
lead
outreach
nurse
who
has
been
a
huge
asset
and
performs
education
alongside
our
lead
investigators
and
works
with
the
family,
to
try
and
help
them
do
what
they
can
to
figure
out
how
to
bring
their
child's
blood
level
down.
H
So,
to
give
you
an
idea
of
some
numbers
that
we're
we're
dealing
with
these
are
the
number
of
children
that
were
tested
for
lead
over
the
past
five
years,
basically
ending
in
2019,
we've
got
it
separated
by
allegheny,
county
and
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Just
so,
you
can
see.
2016,
like
I
said,
is
around
when
the
flint
crisis
became
back
in
the
national
led
back
into
the
national
spotlight.
So
there
was
a
bit
of
an
increase
between
2016
and
2017..
H
We
had
been
ramping
up
our
activities.
I
hope
that
that
we
influenced
a
few
more
people
to
get
lead
tested
then,
but
obviously
the
significant
jump
comes
when
we
enacted
our
lead.
Screening
excuse
me
regulation
in
january
of
2018.,
so
this
next
slide.
This
is
just
those
2017
to
2019
numbers.
You
can
see
it
a
little
more
specifically
from
2017
to
2018.
We
saw
a
28
increase
in
the
number
of
children
getting
tested
in
all
of
allegheny
county
and
then
in
the
city.
H
H
We
saw
our
elevated
blood
level
rate
coming
down
between
2017
and
2019
as
well,
so
both
in
allegheny
county
and
pittsburgh,
we
saw
a
decrease
of
about
0.9
percent,
so
that
rate
is
the
percent
of
children
that
got
tested.
Who
actually
did
have
that
five
plus
level.
So
you'll
see
it's
one
point
down
to
1.81
in
this
in
the
all
of
allegheny
county,
whereas
in
the
city
we
have
a
bit
more
work
to
do
we're
seeing
a
little
more
than
twice
that
rate
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
H
So
this
is
a
visual
specifically
of
that
rate
that
I'm
talking
about
that
percentage.
So
it's
these
represent
the
same
thing
as
that
percentage,
and
you
can
see
that
the
trend
has
been
relatively
consistent
over
the
past
five
years.
It's
come.
The
difference
between
pittsburgh
versus
the
rest
of
the
county
has
come
down
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
we
can
still
there's
still
some
work
to
do
and
we
can
find
ways
to
focus
and
get
that
that
disparity
a
little
less
extreme.
H
I
also
wanted
to
show
you
all
some
data
based
on
your
council
districts,
so
these
are
numbers
pulled
from
2015
to
2019
that
same
five
year
period
on
the
left
of
your
screen.
You
have
the
count,
the
number
of
children
that
have
had
that
blood
test
level
above
five
and
then
on
the
right.
You
have
that
percentage,
the
rate
of
the
children
who
actually
came
back
with
the
elevation,
so
on
both
charts.
H
You
can
see
that
the
the
areas
with
the
highest
rates
and
numbers
of
children
do
end
up
being
one
districts,
one
three,
six
and
nine,
and
then
here
we
have
a
visual
representation
of
so
the
municipalities
and
boroughs
are
by
municipality
and
borough
and
then
on
this
map
I
kept
it
broken
down
by
neighborhoods
so
that
you
can
see
within
each
of
the
city
council
districts.
There
are
spots
that
are
of
greater
concern
than
others,
so
I
just
wanted
to
pull
that
out.
H
So
you
can
see
that
and
then
this
next
map
is
the
city
council's
council
district
overall,
so
you
can
see
the
darker
blue
indicates
a
higher
rate
of
children
with
elevated
blood
levels.
So
three,
and
one
are
the
ones
we
should
be
paying
most
attention
to
there
and
then
the
purple
circles
are
the
larger
the
circle,
the
higher
the
number
of
children
with
an
elevated
blood
levels.
H
So
what
does
the
health
department
do?
What
does
my
program
do
when
we
get
these
elevated
blood
lead
levels
for
children?
We
are
regularly
surveying
a
system
called
pa
neds,
which
is
basically
just
the
pennsylvania
database
where
the
tests
are
entered.
The
results
of
the
test
are
entered,
so
we
look
at
those
and
check
for
children
under
six
years
of
age.
H
For
that
five
and
above
level,
once
we've
identified
them,
we
reach
out
to
their
doctor,
get
a
referral
and
make
sure
we
have
good
contact
information
and
then
reach
immediately
out
to
the
family
to
offer
them
an
environmental
led
investigation,
and
the
goal
of
that
investigation
is
to
find
that
source
of
the
exposure
to
that
child.
H
If
the
family
is
not
interested
in
the
investigation,
for
whatever
reason
we
do
offer
to
provide
them,
education
over
the
phone
and
additionally
offer
to
submit
a
referral
to
early
intervention
services,
because
any
child
who
tests
with
an
elevated
blood
lead
level
is
eligible
for
those
services,
and
I
think
that's
a
somewhat,
not
a
very
well
known
fact.
So
we
like
to
make
sure
that
families
are
aware
of
that
and
can
take
advantage
of
that
resource
if
they
haven't
already
known
about
it.
H
Some
stats
on
our
investigations.
Over
the
past
five
years,
we've
increased
the
number
of
investigations
we're
doing
significantly.
H
This
2017
was
when
we
reduced
the
number
from
15
down
to
10,
so,
as
you
can
see
that
basically
doubled
our
number
in
the
county
and
in
general,
the
pittsburgh
numbers.
The
left
column
is
all
of
the
county
and
the
right
column
is
just
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
So
the
city
of
pittsburgh
pretty
much
represents
consistently
about
40
to
50
of
the
lead
cases
we
have
in
the
entirety
of
allegheny
county.
H
So
so
you
can
see
we
about
doubled
our
cases
in
2017
when
we
reduced
the
rate
from
or
the
lead
level
from
15
down
to
10
and
then
mid
2018.
H
It
was
june
of
2018
when
we
reduced
the
level
down
again
from
10
to
five,
so
increased
our
numbers,
and
then
this
past
year
in
2019
we
had
a
record
high
number
of
investigations
at
134
homes
and,
like
I
said
about
about
half
of
those
were
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
a
little
bit
less
than
half
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
sources
that
we
identified
in
these
properties
that
we
visited,
so
each
home
can
have
multiple
sources
identified,
which
is
why
these
percentages,
obviously
don't
add
up
to
100.
H
But
we
see
a
pretty
consistent
sources
across
allegheny
county
versus
pittsburgh.
Paint
and
dust
are
our
two
biggest
culprits
as
you
can
see,
especially
by
the
pittsburgh
number.
We
find
lead-based
paint,
and
this
to
me
is
a
very
stark
representation.
97
of
the
pittsburgh
homes
that
we
performed
investigations
and
had
some
amount
of
lead-based
paint.
H
It
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
it
was
deteriorated
and
flaking
off,
but
there's
a
lot
of
lead
paint
in
homes
so
and
then
the
dust
that
is
the
next
most
common
source
in
homes
is
created
from
that
lead,
paint,
that's
deteriorating,
and
especially
at
older
windows
that
have
lead
paint
where
the
rubbing
up
and
down
of
the
windows,
opening
and
closing,
creates,
friction
and
causes
that
dust
to
just
go
everywhere
in
the
home
and
again,
as
dr
landfield
was
saying,
it's
just
such
a
small
amount
of
that
dust
that
can
raise
a
child's
blood
level.
H
So
those
are
the
things
we
want
to
really
be
looking
for
and
then
soil.
We
always
test
bare
soil.
Water
is
not
as
much
of
a
contributor,
but
it's
something
we
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
to
make
sure
because
it
can
be
a
can.
It
can
increase
at
a
child's
blood
level
and
then
things
like
alternative
sources
are
things
like
toys
or
spices
or
keychain
or
anything
we
find
that
might
happen
to
have
a
lead
content.
H
So
what
do
we
do
on
the
lead?
Investigation?
Specifically
we're
very
proud
of
these.
It's
a
very
comprehensive
inspection
that
we
perform.
We
do
a
full-length
questionnaire
with
the
family
to
help
pin
down
the
areas
of
concern
any
behaviors
and
activities
that
they
might
be
doing.
That
might
help
to
identify
where
the
exposure
will
be
coming
from.
H
We
do
environmental
sampling
of
water
bare
soil,
any
bare
soil,
that's
on
the
property
and
then
dust
a
minimum
of
eight
dust,
wipes
four
rooms,
two
per
room,
but
it's
pretty
frequently
that
we're
doing
more
than
eight
per
home
and
then
a
full
paint,
inspection
and
risk
assessment
with
our
x-ray
fluorescence
analyzer,
which
is
a
special
piece
of
equipment
that
tests
all
the
coated
surfaces
in
the
home
for
lead
content.
H
And
then
we
also
document
its
condition,
whether
it's
intact
or
deteriorated
and
then
sit
down
before
we
leave
that
home
to
perform
an
educational
session
with
the
family
go
over
the
report
review
the
areas
of
concern
and
make
sure
that
they
have
a
grasp
on
how
they
can
start
right
away
activities
that
may
help
to
reduce
their
child's
blood
level
before
we
even
have
a
chance
to
get
them.
H
The
report
out
so
after
the
lead
investigation,
our
investigators
come
back
and
and
compile
a
comprehensive
lead-based
paint
risk
assessment
report
in
the
case
of
owner-occupied
properties.
We
provide
that
to
the
owners
and
then
offer
to
come
back
to
perform
clearance
testing
if
they
do
perform
remediation
so
that
they
can
make
sure
that
they
did
that
work
safely
and
aren't
creating
another
lead
dust
hazard
that
would
increase
their
child's
blood
level
and
then
for
tenant
occupied
properties.
H
It's
the
same
report
either
way
to
both
the
family
and
the
landlord,
and
then
we
issue
orders
to
the
landlord
to
correct
those
lead
hazards
and
we
follow
up
and
move
forward
to
enforcement
and
civil
penalties
if
we
aren't
seeing
compliance
in
the
way
that
we
would
like
so
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
primary
prevention
activities
that
we
are
currently
performing,
though,
like
I
said
we
we
seek
to
do
more
and,
as
len
said,
we're
always
seeking
to
improve,
there's
a
tons
of
tons
of
opportunity
for
us
to
make
improvements.
H
H
H
H
Whatever
way
we
can
by
running
bus,
ads
billboards,
social
media
campaigns
and
things
of
the
like,
like
I
said,
we
seek
to
do
more
and
we're
dedicated
to
finding
successful
ways
to
further
those
efforts,
and
we
very
much
appreciate
any
interest
that
the
city
has
in
partnering
with
us
on
any
of
those
endeavors
and
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention
to
this
very,
very
important
issue.
B
Thank
you,
I
guess
we'll
pass
it
off
to
and
I
think
a
partnership,
something
we
definitely
want
to
talk
about.
I
know
some
other
members
are
still
with
us.
I
know
councilwoman
gross
is,
I
know,
council
member
wilson
had
to
jump
off
michelle.
Do
you
just
want
me
to
go
to
council
members?
B
I
know
councilwoman
smith
is
on
as
well,
but
I
think
what
we
want
to
get
to
is
moving
forward
with
legislation
and
things
that
we
could
talk
about.
I
know
my
staff
has
already
been
in
contact,
but
we're
definitely
going
to
work
with
other
members
on
this
I
know
councilwoman
gross
is
obviously
interested
so
I'll
pass
it
off
to
councilwoman
gross.
I'm
gonna
have
to
switch
to
my
iphone.
I
have
to
get
to
a
funeral
home,
but
I'll
be
listening
as
I
drive
over,
but
councilwoman
I'll
pass
the
floor
to
you.
G
Thank
you
councilman.
I
appreciate
you
allowing
me
to
be
listed
as
a
co-sponsor
on
this
post
agenda.
This
is
a
really
important
issue.
I
really
learned
a
lot
from
the
speakers
today.
I
really
I've
been
working
about
on
these
issues
for
years
myself,
trying
to
kind
of
further
awareness,
a
huge
thank
you
to
get
the
let
out
campaign
and
to
the
county
task
force
for
kind
of
getting
us
to
furthering
this.
G
This
understanding,
not
just
at
the
you
know,
I
think
population
level
or
the
the
constituent
and
consumer
level,
but
also
across
all
of
our
regulatory
bodies
right
so
that
we
can,
I
think,
we're
a
lot
closer
now
because
of
your
work
to
being
able
to
implement
regulatory
changes
in
a
coordinated
way
and
that's
our
goal.
G
So,
mr
mira,
this
is
fantastic.
I
kind
of
wish
we
could
just
adopt
what
you've
done
today
yesterday
and-
and
I
think
that's
where
we
we
need
to
go
next-
is
to
figure
out
well
what
is
standing
in
our
way
right,
I'm
actually
looking
at
a
pretty
big
stack
of
papers.
Next
to
me,
on
my
desk
from
years
and
the
the
accordion
file
is
labeled,
just
kind
of
like
lead
paint
and
demolitions
and
renovations
so
probably
like
rochester.
G
I
looked
a
little
bit
on
your
wikipedia
page,
mr
meredith,
and
I
can
see
that
the
building
stock
is
very
similar
in
era
right.
I've
never
been
to
rochester,
I've
never
been
to
rochester,
but
I
saw
a
lot
of
beautiful
wooden
homes,
but
also
historic
lots
of
historic
homes
and
lots
of
even
historic
apartment
buildings.
Those
kind
of
you
know
I
have
that
in
my
council
district
I
represent,
as
you
know,
most
we
all
represent
one-ninth
of
the
city
population.
G
My
district
is
less
than
one-ninth
of
the
landmass,
but
almost
every
neighborhood
is
a
historic
trolley.
Car
neighborhood
save
one
that
was
a
golf
course
until
about
1950
up
and
on
top
of
a
hill,
but
really
they
were
all
charlie
car
neighborhoods.
They
all
have
houses
that
are
100
years
old,
some
of
them
here,
where
I'm
looking
have
kind
of
larger
lot
lines
where
I
am
in
highland
park.
G
G
G
G
I
have
almost
entire
neighborhoods
that
have
been
renovated
right
and
so
like.
I
actually
had
an
intern
count
up
building
permits,
and
I
was
talking
to
michelle
about
this
last
week
and
one
year
I
think,
2016
my
district
represented
half
of
all
building
permits
in
the
city,
including
those
like
renovating
the
kitchen,
adding
a
deck
renovating
the
bedrooms.
You
know
converting
the
house,
mostly
from
multi
units
where
there
had
been
a
100
yard
house
chopped
up
into
apartments
and
then
running
it
back
into
single
family,
complete.
G
G
That's
you
know:
15
foot
wide
house
in
side
by
side,
town
houses,
right,
you've,
impacted
everybody's,
probably
internal
air
quality
and
I've
had
constituents
complain
to
me
that
they
borrowed
one
of
the
air
monitors
from
our
public
library
system,
which
you
can
do,
which
is
a
wonderful
quality
right,
so
she
went
and
got
the
air
quality
monitor,
brought
it
home
into
her
living
room
and
kitchen
and
had
elevated
lead
levels
because
the
person
next
door
was
having
you
know
a
contractor
was
scraping
the
paint
right
because
if
you're,
not
a
party
wall,
you're,
maybe
three
feet
apart
in
a
lot
of
my
district
contaminated
soil
is
a
big
problem
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
allegheny
county
conservation.
G
District
bought
one
of
those
portable
xrm
xrf
machines,
and
I
have
them-
come
out
not
this
year,
but
in
previous
years
to
neighborhood
events
or
farmers
markets.
So
everybody
can
just
bring
their
baggies
of
soil
and
have
it
instantly
lead
tested.
You
know
I've
taken
it
from
my
own
backyard
kind
of
a
baggie
from
the
lot
line,
a
baggie
from
the
drip
line
and
a
baggie
from
where
I
want
to
put
in.
G
Maybe
you
know
some
edible
vegetables
or
something
like
that
and
been
able
to
just
do
multiple
sites
around
my
yard
instead
of
blending
it
all
together.
So
that's
really
helpful.
What
I'm
concerned
about,
and
I'm
wondering
mr
merritt.
G
If
you
can
help
us
here
is
that
I've
got
notes
in
front
of
me
again
from
conversations
with
our
own
building.
Inspection
permits
licenses
and
inspections
is
what
we
call
the
department
now
the
the
office
that
issues
permits
for
the
city
does
inspections
and
would
issue
citations
telling
me
like
absolutely
not.
We
cannot
do
this.
G
G
You
know
I
got
on
the
phone
with
the
epa
office
in
philadelphia.
I
had
back
and
forth
there
I
said
come
on
like
what
can
we
do?
Can
you
deputize
our
inspectors
like
what?
How
do
we?
Why
can't
we
figure
out
a
solution?
Here
I
mean
you've
figured
out
the
solution,
so
you
know
we're
not
the
county,
so
we
don't
have
that
county
health
department,
whereas
some
cities
are
their
county
and
have
that
additional
capacity
so
so
get.
What
is
the
magic
formula?
G
Mr
american,
you
like,
how
is
it
different
like
how
are
you
in
rochester?
How
did
you
get
to
yes
and
we've
only
gotten
to
know.
E
E
E
E
Well,
you
can
still
do
the
things
that
you
know
require
this
kind
of
work
to
be
done,
that
if
someone
is
someone
has
a
broken
window
and
or
maybe
even
a
cracked
window.
We
know
that
there's
a
hazard
that
exists
that
turns
actually
into
a
medical
hazard,
because
if
someone
touches
it
they're
going
to
get
cut,
you
know-
or
you
know
some
some.
You
know
how
severe
we
don't
know,
but
some
want
to
get
hurt.
G
We
constantly
have
people
reporting
tripping
hazards
on
sidewalks,
or
you
know
those
kinds
of
things
so
that
that
kind
of
response
can
also
trigger
a
a
citation
that
requires
a
clearance.
E
G
I
like
it
so
then
that
my
third
kind
of
question
about
what
rochester
did
was
the
geographic
targeting.
So
again,
we've
had
these
conversations,
but
we've
failed
to
take
action
yet
here
in
pittsburgh
of
like
well.
If
we
start
especially
around
occupancy
permits,
it's
been.
It's
been
there's
a
problem
here.
G
There
are
people
living
in
blighted
conditions,
whether
they're
free
of
lead
or
not,
and
it's
in
the
news
at
least
once
a
year,
something
really
unsettling
and
disturbing
and
not
okay
is
reported
with
some
some
kind
of
tenants
in
some
kinds
of
conditions.
G
So
you
know
where
to
start
right
well
we're
this
kind
of
when
we
have
limited
capacity,
and
I
similarly
have
argued
that
we
should
be
able
to
just
say
you
know
there
are
worse
conditions
in
these
places
than
others.
So
let
us
just
do
it
geographically.
We
did
this
successfully
at
our
water
authority.
G
I
was
I've
rolled
off
the
board
now,
but
I
was
on
the
board
for
five
or
six
years
during
our
lead
scare,
we
had
the
same
corporation
in
control
of
our
water
authority
viola
corporation,
that
flint
had
in
control
of
theirs,
and
so
we
were
kind
of
about
10
months
behind
them
in
finding
lead,
accedents
and
then
moving
to
rectify
it.
G
We've
replaced
more
than
half
of
the
lead
water
service
lines
so
far
about
8
000,
but
we
had
to
start
somewhere
and
I
was
on
the
board
pushing
for
to
be
able
to
replace
not
just
half
the
line
like
the
dep
was
ordering
us
to.
But
you
know
we
changed
state
law
to
be
able
to
do
the
entire
lead
service
line.
G
I
today
have
construction
projects
that
are
happening
still
replacing
those
lines,
because
I
I
represent
such
older
parts
of
the
city,
but
we
focused
on
the
low
and
modern
income
neighborhoods
first
right
where
there
was
also
a
density
of
bloodlines
and
where
there
was
a
density
of
children
to
the
best
that
we
could
estimate
by
the
census
data
right,
and
so
we
were
able
we
just
layered.
Those
three
to
those
three
gis
layers
and
those
were
our
hot
spots.
Where
we
could
you
know
it's
a
big
deal
to
bring
out
a
crew.
G
G
We've
gotten
that
down
by
having
you
know,
sometimes
a
hundred
houses
on
the
street
on
a
long
street
being
done
in
the
same
two
or
three
days,
but
we
we
did
those
in
that
priority
order,
because
those
are
the
neighborhoods
where
people
don't
have
the
resources
to
do
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
job
themselves
and
because
for
the
public
health
reasons
where
they're
with
the
most
children-
and
I
feel
like,
we
should
use
that
same
urgency
and
that
same
kind
of
prioritization
here
that
we
also
put
up
a
map
right
away
because,
like
with
paint
we
didn't
know
where
lead
water
service
lines,
were
people
hadn't
kept
track
for
a
hundred
years,
and
so
as
we
I
went
out
searching
for
them
literally
looking
in
the
ground
in
front
of
your
house,
we
put
them
up
on
a
map
and
that
mop
is
up
there.
G
We
haven't
done
that
in
the
city,
and
we
could.
I
don't
see
anything
stopping
us
from
doing
that.
Right
now,
right
we
can
use
the
data
even
that
we've
already
identified
right
from
these.
This
is
just
one
year.
This
is
a
couple
hundred
kids
in
the
city
who
were
identified
and
those
homes
I
assume,
were
inspected
to
see
if
they
had
lead
paint
and
so
that
data
is
there
now
for
several
years
and
that
I
don't
see
any
prohibition,
I
I
would
support
putting
it
up
on
a
map
immediately.
D
You
could
you
could
also
come
up
with
other
ways
to
more
accurately
target
the
housing.
For
example,
we
have
for
a
long
time
focused
on
pre-1978
housing.
That's.
D
Was
used
until
then,
but
much
higher
concentrations
were
used
up
until
1950s
into
the
50s,
and
so
the
number,
the
percent
of
homes
that
contain
a
lead
hazard
will
be
much
larger,
pre-1960.
So
there's
different
ways:
you
can
target
housing
to
make
sure
that
the
populations
you're
most
concerned
about
are
being
remedied.
First.
G
Right,
like
you
know,
all
of
lawrenceville,
like
I
mean
that's
one
of
the
biggest
neighborhoods,
I
represent
right,
10
000
people,
usually
I
can't
think
of
a
house
that
was
built
after
1960.,
so
it
it
definitely
impacts
my
constituents.
I
am
very
concerned
about
it,
and
so
I
I
want
to
see
especially
the
first,
the
first
things
that
we
can
do
when
we
don't
have
any
regulatory
barriers
where
we
have
a
clear
path,
we
should
be
doing
them
now.
My
last
question,
I
think,
is
to
miss
horowitz.
G
Thank
you
also,
for
being
here
and
and
being
proactive.
I
applaud
the
county
for
making
the
lead
blood
blood
tests
mandatory
for
newborns.
When
did
that
start,
then
2017?
I
think
january.
H
No,
no,
we
and
we're
starting
actually
to
do
a
study
now
to
figure
out
which
kids
we're
missing
and
how
many
it
takes
matching
birth
certificates
because
of
that
time,
you're
supposed
to
do
it
at
one
around
one
and
at
around
two
years
old.
So
we're
trying
to
get
down
to
that.
So
we
can
focus
on
finding
those
populations
that
we
are
still
missing
and
trying
to
figure
out.
Why
we're
missing
them?
What
are
the
barriers
there
and
then
trying
to
find
how
we
can
get
those
kids
tested
too?.
G
C
G
D
Right
just
to
give
you
a
perspective,
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
a
city
do
better
than
60
to
70
percent,
which
doesn't
mean
you
won't
try,
but
just
to
be
realistic.
Those
for
whatever
reason
those
last
30
percent
are
a
challenge.
H
And
another
factor
to
consider,
too,
is
that
that
a
lot
of
the
tests
that
the
kids
are
getting
are
what
we
call
a
screening
test.
It's
just
a
capillary
finger
prick
and
we
get
high
rates
of
false
positives
on
those,
unfortunately,
because
the
leg
can
get
stuck
in
their
fingerprint
and
then,
if
it
doesn't
get
wiped
out
well
enough.
H
So
we
also
need
to
encourage
people
to
be
getting
those
follow-up
tests
to
confirm
the
initial
fingerprints
and
that's
another
thing
that
we've
been
trying
to
work
on
is
identifying
those
populations
and
trying
to
again
find
the
barriers
figure
out.
What's
keeping
them
from
being
able
to
go
out
and
get
that
that
follow-up
test.
G
That,
since
I
saw
councilman
o'connor
on
the
move
here,
corey,
if
you
can
hear
me
if
you
need
to
interject
your
questions,
I'll,
take
a
pause
here.
C
B
Sorry
I
am
walking
in
thank
you
councilwoman.
I
will
just
you
know
thank
everybody
for
being
here,
especially
the
guests
that
joined
councilman
gross.
I
know,
council,
president
smith,
councilman
wilson,
as
well
as
council,
councilwoman
strasberger
and
I
know
councilman
gross-
has
talked
about
this
a
lot.
B
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
giving
us
sort
of
like
a
heads
up
as
to
what
other
cities
have
done
and
how
we
can
possibly
do
this,
and
I
think
you
know
with
my
colleagues
we'll
be
able
to
do
something
relatively
quickly
here
in
the
city.
But
thank
you
guys
very
much,
and
I
just
really
wanted
to
do
that.
I'm
sorry.
I
have
to
run
in
family
obligations
here,
but
thank
you
very
much.
G
So
since
I
took
a
pause,
can
I
ask
if
any
other
members
are
have
comments
or
questions
councilwoman
smith,
councilman
lavelle,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I
can
see
everybody's
still
here
who
do
we
still
have.
G
I
don't
see
councilman
lavelle
right
now
either
we
might
have
lost
him
as
well.
I.
G
G
Okay,
so
so
yeah,
I
I
interrupted
some
of
our
speakers,
mr
merritt.
I
think
you're
about
to
respond.
Also
you.
I
can't.
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
focused
fairly
extensively
on
is
screening
children
and
there's
some
value
to
that,
of
course.
But
the
ultimate
goal
would
be
to
screen
the
houses
to
find
the
hazards
and
eliminate
them
in
the
first
place,
because
inadvertently
by
focusing
so
heavily
on
screening
children,
we
will
fail
to
protect
them
right.
We
don't
act
until
we
find
a
kid
who's
lead
poisoned.
D
What
we
should
be
doing
is
acting
once
we
find
an
elevated
dust,
lead
level
or
peeling
paint
chip
so
that
we
actually
can
prevent
those
children
that
child
from
being
poisoned
in
the
first
place.
So
just
to
balance
out
the
amount
of
effort
we
put
on
screening,
children
and
screening
the
sources.
C
I
wanted
to
music
to
my
ears.
Thank
you
very
much
I
was
going
to.
That
would
be
my
comment
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
for
the
folks
still
on
the
line
just
say
thank
you
for
in
terms
of
all
of
the
council
members,
who
have
been
very
generous
with
their
time
over
the
course
of
the
last
year,
where
we've
been
having
this
conversation
and
begun
to
talk
about
primary
prevention
strategies-
and
you
know
we
heard
from
you
and
we
took
that
information
to
heart
and
we
went
back
and
we
did
our
research.
C
We
did
our
investigations.
We
talked
to
colleagues
in
other
cities.
We
talked
to
some
national
partners
who
do
this
work
as
well,
and
we
compiled
all
of
that
information
in
the
research
that
we've
done
to
be
able
to
put
strategies
together
to
you,
for
you
all
to
review
and
react
to
and
to
begin
a
dialogue.
C
In
terms
of
how
do
we
take
a
comprehensive
approach
to
led
from
a
primary
prevention
standpoint
to
reducing
the
exposures
and
reducing
the
harm
so
that
we
don't
have
to
screen
children
that
we
get
to
rochester's
numbers
that
they
have
been
able
to
accomplish
in
a
short
period
of
time?
C
And
so
we
want
to
share
all
of
that
information
with
you
in
the
upcoming
weeks
to
sit
down
and
strategize
and
see.
You
know,
we
think
we
have
a
a
pretty
good
sense
of
what
would
work
best
for
pittsburgh.
But
we
need
to
hear
from
all
of
you,
because
you
know
you
hear
from
constituents
and-
and
you
all
know
what
works
best
in
terms
of
policy
initiatives,
and
so
this
is,
I
think,
an
opportunity
for
community.
As
len
had
talked
about
earlier.
C
And
so
now
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
that
right
here
within
our
city,
and
I
can't
think
of
a
better
way
to
celebrate,
lead
poisoning
prevention
month
next
month
in
october,
to
really
think
about
some
action,
steps
that
we
can
all
take
here
locally
and
you
know
think
about
how
we
protect
not
only
everyone
we
heard
about
both
children
and
adult
health
impacts.
How
do
we
protect
those
who
are
here
today,
but
also
our
next
generation?
C
Councilwoman
gross,
so
if
you
have
other
things
that
you
would
like
to
ask
of
our
experts
they're
here,
we
can
get
all
of
their
email
addresses
and
for
all
other
council
members.
So
we
can
get
you
connected
with
each
of
them
to
ask
the
questions,
dr
landfield,
in
addition
to
being
a
physician
and
scientist
as
a
professor
of
health
sciences
at
simon
fraser
university,
and
we
can
connect
you
with
him
through
that
contact.
C
As
you
know,
mr
merritt,
certainly
with
rochester
and
with
our
own
local
source
of
information
in
in
help
is
with
lori
through
the
health
department.
But
if
you
have
other
questions,
I'm
sure
they
might
be
able
to
take
a
couple
before.
Hopefully
I
know
that
everyone
has
obligations,
and
so
we
have
a
thank.
G
You
for
wrapping
it
up
because
we're
like
you
know
it's
almost
2
45.,
but
absolutely
if
we
can
make
sure
that
we
get
michelle.
You
can
help
us
have
an
email
version
of
your
presentations.
G
They
were
captured
here
in
our,
but
our
legislative
record
is
merely
video,
so
it's
hard
to
share
and
refer
to
so,
for
you
know,
to
have
a
pdf
emailed
would
be
incredibly
helpful
and
that
way
we
can
share
it
as
well
around
in
as
we're
working
on
things
and
contact
information
would
be
incredibly
helpful.
I
know
that
we'll
be
continuing.
This
conversation
among
council
members
and
council
members
do
re-watch.
G
This
we'll
also
share
that
this
will
be
available
on
the
city's
new
youtube
channel
since
we're
working
remotely
all
of
our
council
sessions
and
this
post
agenda
our
official
legislative
record,
and
so
they
are
both
on
the
city's
website
in
the
legislative
information
center.
But
here
in
the
new
covet
era,
we've
discovered
youtube,
which
is
incredibly
helpful,
because
it's
actually
a
lot
easier
for
citizens
and
so
we'll
have
a
link
straight
to
the
youtube
channel
where
people
can
watch
this
and
share
it
and
we'll
be
happy
to
do
that
as
well.
C
G
C
Thank
you
for
your
co-hosting
of
this
session.
Today,
too,
it's
been
incredibly
helpful
and
I
hope
beneficial
to
you
and
all
of
your
fellow
members
of
council.