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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council's
post
agenda
meeting
for
wednesday
october
7th
2020.
My
name
is
kim
clark
baskin
and
I'm
the
assistant
city
clerk
with
us.
Today
we
have
our
sign
language
interpreter
nick
miller.
The
following
is
a
topic
up
for
round
table
discussion,
meeting
call
by
councilman
corey
o'connor.
There
will
be
discussion
on
justice
related
and
human
services.
A
B
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
city
council's
post
agenda
on
justice
related
services,
as
well
as
human
relations
services
as
well,
so
I'm
glad
to
be
hosting
this.
I'm
councilman
o'connor,
we're
joined
by
at
this
point,
councilman
wilson.
So
I
want
to
thank
him
for
being
here.
We
have
a
number
of
speakers
this
afternoon
from
the
county
as
well
as
from
connect.
B
We
do
also
have
laura
from
the
city
is
going
to
chime
in
if
any
of
the
council
members
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
have
any
questions
that
are
related
to
the
city,
but
obviously
we
thought
this
was
a
really
important
conversation,
especially
now
we're
leading
into
the
budget
and
public
safety
has
been
a
huge
conversation
throughout
the
last
few
months
being
chair
of
public
safety,
I
think
it's
important
to
see
what
types
of
services
are
out
there
that
we
already
have
worked
with,
but
also
ways
that
we
can
fill
the
gap
to
help
not
only
our
public
safety
department
but
as
well
as
our
residents
and
get
them
the
services
they
need
throughout
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
B
So
I
will
actually
begin
with
connect,
and
I
know
that
there
are
a
few
speakers,
but
if
lydia,
if
you
want
to
take
over
we'll
start
with
connect
and
then
we'll
go
down
the
list
and
I'll
offer
it
to
dan
jennifer
and
aaron
from
the
county,
I'm
not
sure
who
wanted
to
go
in
what
direction.
But
you
guys
feel
free
to
jump
in
whenever
you
want,
but
we'll
start
with
connex
powerpoint,
then
we'll
go
to
the
county
and
then
we'll
take
questions
after
that
so
pass
off
to
lydia.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
councilman
and
great
to
see
everybody
who's
here.
For
those
who
don't
know
me,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
connect,
which
is
the
congress
of
neighboring
communities,
and
it
always
helps
to
set
a
little
context.
So
I
will
give
you
the
who,
what
where
of
connect
in
a
bit
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
a
lot
of
governments
that
share
a
border
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
We
bring
those
all
together
to
work
on
cross-boundary
challenges.
C
C
We've
been
allotted
as
a
national
model,
because
so
many
regions,
you
know,
have
the
same
sort
of
tricky
issues
where
there's
lots
of
border
sharing,
but
you
know
jurisdictional
equity
at
the
forefront.
So
you
know
our
members
are
the
municipalities
themselves
and
they
designate
one
to
three
elected
and
appointed
officials
to
be
the
representatives
to
connect
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
You
have
the
mayor,
you
have
councilman
councilwoman,
deb
gross
and
michael
lamb.
C
Those
are
your
three
representatives
to
the
city,
and
so,
in
addition
to
those,
we
have
a
lot
of
other
folks
who
come
to
our
meetings.
But
those
are
the
folks
that
can
vote
on
behalf
of
the
legislation
legislative
session
that
connect
convenes
and
you're.
Looking
here
at
a
photo
of
one
of
our
annual
legislative
sessions,
which
serves
as
almost
a
strategic
planning
process
to
what
what
are
the
high
priorities,
what
can
we
do
together?
C
So
you
look
at
our
board
of
officers.
You
know
there's
about
100
people
who
technically
are
on
the
executive
committee,
but
the
board
of
officers
is
really
that
steering
committee
and
it's
always
the
county
executive.
It's
always
the
mayor
of
pittsburgh.
It's
always
an
elected
official
for
our
chair
for
municipality,
that
isn't
the
city.
It's
always
an
a
manager
from
one
of
the
municipalities
and
we
always
have
a
treasurer
secretary
who
tends
to
be
a
manager
as
well.
C
So
what
is
connect?
We
are
a
lot
of
things,
but
primarily
we
do
the
intergovernmental
affairs
work
that
we
know
has
been
disinvested
in
for
the
last
30
40
years.
You
know
in
in
the
60s
and
70s
there
was
a
lot
more
money
and
funding
available
to
facilitate
conversations
and
communications
and
coordination
between
government
departments
between
different
agencies
and
between
the
citizens
themselves.
We
haven't
had
as
much
investment
in
that
for
my
entire
career,
probably
for
everyone's
entire
career.
That's
here
now
and
so
that's.
Why
connect
saw
that
problem
and
came
to
exist?
It's
really.
C
C
Sorry,
it's
very
much.
You
know
that
access
point
to
all
those
voices
and
we
really
lean
into
that.
You
know
our
best
programs
have
come
because
our
communities
have
identified
the
challenges,
but
most
often
the
people
who
are
most
close
to
the
problem
are
the
ones
who
are
able
to
identify
the
solutions.
And
so
often
the
municipalities
are
unable
to
be
a
voice
at
that
table.
And
so
another
really
important
thing
that
connect
does
is
be
that
voice.
And
so
what
do
we
do?
We
convene
and
communicate
for
our
regional
membership.
C
We
co-develop
and
research
advocacy
agendas
we
incubate
and
pilot
policies
and
programs.
We
never
purport
to
own
a
program
or
an
idea
or
any
of
that.
But
what
we
do
do
is
you
know,
raise
those
voices
to
the
top,
or
you
know,
to
the
point
of
the
conversation
and
we
make
sure
they're
at
the
table,
we'll
often
say,
if
you're
not
at
the
table
you're
on
the
menu
and
for
a
lot
of
things
in
our
region.
C
This
is
a
quick
timeline
of
a
lot
of
big
policy
and
programs
that
connect
has
been
able
to
push
forward
in
the
last
decade.
You
know:
we've
worked
closely
with
the
city
on
all
of
these
and
I'll
point
out
a
few
I'm
going
to
point
out.
The
sewer
regionalization
implementation
that
has
been
one
of
our
biggest
achievements
is
just
the
amount
of
conversations
and
the
amount
of
meanings
of
palatal
municipal
officials
who
needed
their
voices
heard
to
identify.
You
know
problems
with
sewage
problems
with
back
up.
C
You
know,
quality
of
life
issues
for
alka-san
to
hear
them,
and
you
know
now
and
throughout
all
of
that
it
was
a
culture
of
collaboration
and
alka-san,
heard
them
loud
and
clear
and
has
actually
formed
an
advisory
committee
that
has
folks
from
connect
municipalities
there
to
give
their
voice
which
they
didn't
have
before,
and
that
was
really
important.
A
couple
of
other
big
things
are
coordinate,
pa
software,
and
so
this
is
something
that,
when
you're
thinking
about
budget,
you
can
be
very
thankful
that
it
exists
now.
C
C
Two
years
later,
water
company
says:
oh,
we
got
a
problem,
we're
going
to
get
in
there,
but
a
lot
of
those
times.
The
utilities
have
had
that
maintenance
scheduled
or
those
things
scheduled
for
years
in
advance.
But
there
was
no
mechanism
to
plan
together
and
so
through
connects
utilities,
summits
and
then,
through
their
their
work
with
pa,
one
call
they
said
hey.
C
We
could
plan
together
if,
if
we
don't
really
want
the
taxpayer,
slash
ratepayer
as
a
human
paying
for
the
same
thing
three
times,
none
of
us
do
that's
so
inefficient
and
when
we
know
we
have
10
to
20
billion
dollars
of
an
infrastructure
investment
coming
to
our
region.
What?
If
we
did
that
10
to
20
more
efficiently
with
each
other
think
about
how
much
money?
C
That
is
for
the
things
that
we
say
we
don't
have
money
for,
and
so
the
software
began
to
get
developed,
and
so
now
anytime,
there's
a
project
that
any
that's
on
a
road
or
a
dig.
It
goes
into
the
coordinate,
pa
software
and
and
folks
are
able
to
plan,
and
so
you
know,
municipalities
like
bellevue
and
the
city
of
pittsburgh
have
saved
tons
of
money
by
coordinating
with
the
utilities
on
roads
that
need
to
be
paved.
C
So
that's
just
one
example
of
I
don't
think
any
of
us
sitting
around
a
table
would
have
figured
that
out
by
ourselves
or
without
input
from
municipal
planning
directors
or
from
the
utilities.
It's
just
that
point
just
that
example,
I
want
to
share.
Is
you
really
need
to
have
as
many
community
voices
that
are
touching
the
problem
to
be
there
to
help
find
a
solution?
That's
really
awesome,
and
so
that's
just
you
know
an
example.
I'd
like
to
point
out
another.
C
You
know
another
one
is
the
connect
community
paramedic
program,
the
transit
oriented
zoning
project,
and
you
know
now
we're
in
a
great
funded
partnership
with
the
health
department,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
timeline.
To
give
a
little
context
on
how
much
we
can
do
when
we
work
together-
and
we
hear
from
the
people
who
are
affected
most
by
the
problem
to
what
they
think
the
solutions
can
be
and
connect
is
really.
You
know
really
happy
to
play
that
role
for
folks.
We've
got
three.
C
So
we've
got
the
infrastructure
and
utilities
coordination
working
group.
In
there
we
talk
about
stormwater
issues
and
regionalization
of
governance.
We
talk
about
the
coordinate
pa
software
and
we
talk
about
the
western
pennsylvania
energy
consortium,
which
we
work
with
very
closely
with
the
city
as
well,
and
then
we
have
the
economic
and
environmental
development
working
group
where
we're
talking,
recycling
coordination,
transit,
oriented
development,
lead
safety
in
in
building
and
in
the
built
environment,
and
then
the
one
that's
most
applicable
to
today
is
our
public
safety,
health
and
human
resources.
C
Working
group
and
you'll
notice
that
these
are
sometimes
concepts
that
you
don't
that
weren't
as
commonly
put
together
as
intersectional,
especially
the
economic
and
environmental
development
working
group,
but
the
public
safety,
health
and
human
resources
working
group
is
dealing
with
the
intersection
of
law
enforcement
with
public
diversion
with
the
2020
census,
with
the
volunteer
fire
crisis
and
then
just
this
culture
of
community
policing
and
in
our
working
groups.
I
want
to
share
you
know
this
is
a
little
bit
outdated
and
we're
going
to
update
it.
C
But
this
is
sort
of
the
web
of
the
partners
and
they
these
each.
Each
of
these
red
dots
represents
an
ngo
or
another
government
agency
or
department
that
is
at
the
table,
these
working
groups.
So
you'll
see
the
allegheny
county
health
department,
you'll,
see
dhs
you'll,
see
economic
development,
but
then
you'll
also
see
folks
like
the
allegheny
league
municipalities,
three
rivers
wet
weather
women
for
a
healthy
environment
western.
So
what
you
see
here
is
that
you
can
follow
my
mouse.
C
We've
got
the
infrastructure
and
utilities
working
group,
the
economic
and
environmental
development
working
group
and
the
public
safety,
health
and
human
resources
working
group,
and
so
a
lot
of
intersection
between
all
of
this,
which
means
keeping
the
communication
and
really
getting
feedback
from
the
all
of
these
stakeholders
is
complicated
and
does
take
attention,
but
we
really
think
it
matters
in
creating
a
solution,
and
so
when
we,
I
want
to
hand
it
off
to
joellen
to
sort
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process
that
we
have
done
that
in
the
past,
a
little
bit
more
specifically
joe
ellen's,
been
with
connect.
C
Joellen
marsh
is
our
he's
our
director
and
our
diversion
program
pilot
that
we've
been
funded
through
the
allegheny
health
department.
Before
that,
she
was
working
at
the
health
department
herself
and
before
that
she
was
studying
deeply
diversion
programs
at
gispia
through
and
with
working
with,
connect
and
really
proud
to
have
her,
and
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
also
mayor
kelly
kelly,
who
is
the
mayor
of
turtle
creek,
but
she's.
C
C
C
If
you
don't
mind
just
kind
of
going
into
some
more
detail
on
the
public,
the
intersection
that
we
found
with
public
safety,
health
and
human
resources
in
that
working
group,
you
can
mention
some
of
the
folks
that
we
have,
and
this
week
is
a
special
week
because
of
civic
action
week
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
C
We've
actually
opened
up
our
public
safety,
health
and
human
resources
working
group
to
all
of
the
public
to
see
how
you
can
get
engaged
with
these
kinds
of
topics,
and
so
folks
are
welcome
to
check
out
the
civic
engagement
week.
Calendar
at
pitt-
and
you
know,
join
us
tomorrow
at
one
to
sort
of
talk
about
this
in
much
more
depth
and
be
a
part
of
that
working
group.
Be
a
part
of
you
know:
brainstorming
solutions,
but
joellen.
Maybe
you
can
give
us
a
little
more
sure
thanks,
lydia.
D
And
what
we've
really
focused
on
with
connect
is
bringing
together
the
expertise
of
local
governments
and
their
voices
of
those
community
members,
together
with
the
expertise
of
the
people
who
are
working
in
these
fields
every
single
day
who
see
how
the
systems
work
and
really
see
what
can
be
meaningful
for
people
if
they're
just
brought
together.
So
one
example
of
how
connect
has
done
this.
Lydia
mentioned
the
connect
community
paramedic
program,
so
that's
an
example
of
somebody
who
worked
in
that
field,
dan
swayze,
who
ended
up
starting
it.
D
He
saw
that
there
were
all
of
these
people
who
were
frequent
flyers
to
the
emergency
department,
so
they
were
going.
You
know
10
20
times
a
year
to
the
emergency
department.
It
was
causing
burnout
among
ems.
It
was
costing
a
huge
amount
of
money
to
the
health
care
system
and
people's
needs
weren't
being
met.
Most
importantly,
people
were
just
kind
of
being
left
behind
and
falling
through
the
cracks,
and
so
we
had
this
idea
that
he
brought
to
local
governments
and
local
governments
said:
oh
my
god.
D
D
D
We
know
that
we
can't
do
this
without
them,
but
also
looking
upstream,
like
we
looked
upstream
with
ems
and
figuring
out,
how
do
we
solve
those
things
before
they
get
to
an
emergency,
or
how
do
we
fix
those
things
before
it
becomes
a
cycle?
How
do
we
interrupt
that
cycle?
Looking
at
doing
the
same
thing
with
police,
so
we've
been
working
with
a
number
of
municipalities
to
explore.
What
are
the
options
we
can
do
with
police,
whether
that's
pre-arrest
diversion
other
community
policing
measures
to
figure
out?
What
are
we?
B
Everyone,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
mayor
is
going
or
is
she
just
here
for
questions
I
don't
know
mayor.
Did
you
want
to
chime
in
before
we.
B
F
E
Being
brought
on
to
work
with
these
programs
just
from
a
local
government
perspective
is
amazing.
I
have
been
advocating
for
programs
like
this
in
our
municipality,
since
I
was
elected
six
and
a
half
years
ago,
so
being
able
to
be
involved
with
connect,
an
organization
like
that
that
brings
our
voice
to
the
table
and
those
of
the
municipalities
around
us
to
the
table
to
get.
You
know
those
services
that
that
we
need
and
talk
about
what
we
need
and
what
our
residents
are
struggling
with
is
wonderful.
B
Right,
no
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here,
we're
also
joined
by
councilman
gross.
So
I
want
to
thank
her
for
being
here,
we'll
go
to
the
county
and
I'll
go
to
aaron
next
and
then
we'll
get
dan
from
allegheny
health
network
after
that,
so
aaron.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
taking
it
away.
G
Yep
great,
I
can
pull
up
some
slides.
I
know
we'd
share
them
with
your
office
councilman,
but
if
it's
easier
I'll,
unless
I
hear
otherwise
I'll
go
ahead
and
pull
some
up
all
right,
let's
see
if
I.
G
G
All
right,
let
me
try
again
I'm
here
we
go.
I
think
this
will
work
actually
yeah
there.
We
go
all
right,
great.
Okay,
thanks
hi,
I'm
erin
dalton.
You
guys
hear
that,
let's
see
all
right
good,
no,
the
no
echo
so
I'm
erin
dalton
at
the
department
of
human
services.
I
run
our
office
of
analytics
technology
and
planning
and
have
focused
on
a
lot
of
our
human
services.
Criminal
justice
related
work
over
the
years
appreciate
the
invitations
to
come
and
talk
with
you
all
I'll.
G
Try
and
keep
our
comments.
Relatively
short,
I
have
jen
battered
and
also
with
me,
she's
been
supporting
this
work
and
happy
to
help
answer
some
questions
and
happy
to
follow.
Connect,
who's
done
a
lot
of
work,
leading
in
getting
municipal
and
police
department
voices
on
this
issue.
So
I
appreciate
their
work
so
just
a
little
bit
of
dhs
101
just
to
make
sure
people
are
are
aware.
So
you
know
we
are
the
largest
county
county
department.
We
have
about
a
billion
dollars
in
funding
to
serve
people.
G
We
serve
about
one
out
of
every
five
county
residents,
it's
about
200
000
people
per
year
and
we
serve
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
city
right
so
disproportionate
to
the
population
of
city
residents
for
county.
We
we
serve.
You
know
50
45,
50
000
people
a
year,
and
we
do
this
work
through
a
lot
of
community-based
providers,
so
dhs
doesn't
tend
to
brand
our
services.
We
tend
to
do
this
work
through
community-based
providers
who
who
we
fund?
G
You
know,
I
think
it's
a
long
belief
that
people
are
more
likely
to
get
services
in
their
community
from
from
their
community
than
you
know,
from
the
government
per
se.
So
you
might
not
see.
E
G
G
So
our
goal
is
to
be
part
of
the
community.
Have
the
the
services
on
the
ground
really
strive
to
always
listen
to
the
people?
We
serve
build
for
fund
what
they
need
long
value
around
integrating
care
people
shouldn't
have
to
to
do
that
work
on
their
own.
We
should
try
to
take
all
of
these
disparate
services
and
make
them
work
for
people.
G
We
definitely
do
our
work
through
partnership,
whether
it
be
with
the
school
district
or
the
courts
or
community-based
providers
or
groups
like
connect,
don't
want
to
be
in
this
alone
want
to
be
supporting
broader
initiatives,
certainly
a
goal
always
to
try
to
learn,
improve,
get
better
and
and
really
do
try
to,
and
you
know
increasingly
try
to
put
racial
equity
first.
G
We
know
that
if
we
serve
people
that
are
most
most
vulnerable
most
disadvantaged
by
our
systems,
that
everything
will
get
better.
So
just
a
little
bit
about
our
how
we
approach
the
work,
we've
got
a
lot
of
responsibilities.
G
So
you
may,
you
may
know
all
of
this,
but
we
we
have
responsibility
for
people
serving
people,
older
adults
and
people
with
with
or
without
disability,
so
our
aging
services,
we
have
responsibility
for
child
protective
services,
mental
health
services,
both
medicaid
and
uninsured,
and
as
well
as
drug
and
alcohol,
intellectual
disabilities,
emergency
shelter
and
housing
supports
across
the
board,
including
for
people
who
are
homeless,
job
placement
and
training.
Though
we
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
these
days
through
partner
for
work,
we
still
retain
some.
G
G
I
should
mention
in
that
about
a
billion
dollar
funding
about
five
percent
of
that
is
actually
county
dollars.
This
is
mostly
federal
and
state
funding
for
for
human
services,
the
behavioral
health
services
about
450
million,
the
majority
of
which
goes
to
community
care,
behavioral
health
who
run
the
medicaid
programs
for
us.
But
and
then
we
directly
run
the
programs
for
uninsured
but
have
responsibility
for
both.
You
can
see
here.
G
F
G
On
our
website,
we
try
really
really
hard
working
with
the
united
way
and
others,
but
still
striving
to
make
access
to
care
easier.
Certainly,
a
lot
of
people
are
finding
our
services,
but
try
to
put
make
tools
like
this
available
work
with
applications
like
big
burg
to
make
services
better
known.
G
G
We've
done
some
mapping
work
with
partners
on
this
call
to
see
where
the
crisis
services
are,
and,
in
my
view,
this
we
have
a
lot
of
crisis
services,
some
paid
for
by
the
county,
a
lot
of
them
some
paid
for
by
the
city
and
so
on.
G
What
we
don't
have-
and
I
think
we're
you
know,
working
to
build
together
better,
is-
is
a
crisis
system,
so
things
that
fit
together
for
people
so
that
they
see
it,
whether
whether
you're
a
family
member,
a
person
in
crisis
yourself
or
first
responders,
see
this
as
a
crisis
system.
G
So
you
know
we
have
mobile
crisis
services
through
resolve
and
community
treatment
teams.
You'll
hear
a
little
bit
about
homeless
outreach
later
some
of
that
through
our
own
staff
and
other
providers.
We
do
overdose
prevention,
outreach
again
through
a
bunch
of
different
providers,
including
prevention
point
and
the
centers
of
excellence.
We
have
a
central
recovery
center
over
on
the
south
side,
run
by
mercy
that
can
serve
as
a
couple
of
day
stay
for
people
in
crisis.
G
Mental
health
crisis
we're
working
on
two
bigger
projects
that
a
lot
of
you
will
be
aware
of.
The
the
the
name
for
now
is
the
engagement
center.
This
is
really
to
be
the
front
door
for
the
substance,
use
treatment
system
so
that
people
in
substance
you
in
need
of
care,
whether
they
are
coming
there
on
their
own
family
members,
support
them
and
coming.
Our
first
responders
can
work
with
the
engagement
center
to
get
people
into
treatment
immediately,
and
then
project
cares.
G
This
is
the
shelter
and
drop-in
center
being
developed,
so
just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
crisis
services
we
currently
fund-
and
I
I
will
I'm
not
gonna-
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
because
we,
I
think,
there's
a
bunch
to
get
through,
but
resolve,
is
probably
the
biggest
crisis.
Serp
mental
health
crisis
services,
it's
24-hour
365
day
a
week
I
mean
day
a
year
crisis
service,
that's
free
to
all
residents.
We
fund
this.
G
The
government
is
really
the
only
funder
and
that
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
is
is
a
challenge
that
the
private
private
insurance
isn't
covering
this.
So
if
I
I
have
private
insurance,
if
I
need
the
service
today,
the
government's
going
to
pay
for
that,
and
so
that's
a
that's
something
to
look
at.
G
All
right,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about,
and
this
is
certainly
not
perfect,
but
you
know
I
don't
know,
I'm
a
data
person,
so
the
intersection
of
human
services
and
criminal
justice
a
little
bit
about
what
we
know
and
what
we're
trying
to
do.
So
this
is
national
data.
I
think
it's
fairly
well
known
reported
on
a
lot.
G
We
know
that
throughout
the
country,
jails
have
become
the
largest
mental
health
treatment
facilities
with
so
many
people
ending
up
in
jail
who
have
underlying
behavioral
health
conditions,
and
we
know
that
one
in
four
people
shot
by
the
police
are
people
with
mental
illness,
and
we
know
that
half
of
all
people
with
mental
illness
will
get
arrested
at
some
point
in
their
lifetime.
So
these
are
yeah.
I
mean,
I
think,
even
though
well-known
pretty
shocking
statistics
and
things,
I
think
we
want
to
look
at
locally.
G
You
know
this.
It's
difficult
to
really
use
the
911
dispatch
data.
I
think
police.
If
you
had
an
officer
joining
or
even
the
chief,
I
think
they
would
estimate
that
they
are
spending
a
lot.
A
lot
of
time
on
behavioral
health,
related
underlying
human
services
needs,
and
we
do
find
across
the
county
about
a
million
dispatches
from
911
a
year
that
was
in
2019.
That
involves
some
kind
of
behavioral
health,
human
services
issues,
so
mental
health,
overdose,
alcohol
intoxication
and
disorderly
conduct,
some
of
which
are
not
real.
G
Underlying
human
services
issues,
but
a
lot
of
which
are
those
calls
do
take
the
we
we've
done
some
analysis.
Looking
working
with
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
data,
those
those
calls
do
take
longer,
and
I
I
actually
wrote
it
down
somewhere,
but
I
can't
find
at
the
moment,
but
we
can
tell
you
the
number
of
hours
with
an
estimated
number
of
hours.
We
think
that
they're
spending
on
those
kinds
of
calls
so
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
how
how
much
of
this
is
is
driving
their
work.
G
Here's
a
density
map
clearly
the
whole
county,
but
you
can
see
a
lot
of
density
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
we've
got
provided
for
you
here.
The
top
neighborhoods
in
raw
accounts
for
behavioral
health
dispatches
and
then
the
the
top
20
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
by
rate.
So
one's
count
and
one
is
rate,
so
you
can
see
the
neighborhoods
that
are
that
are
most
impacted,
and
you
know
many
of
you
will
not
be
sur
surprised
by
by
this
just
just
moving
on
to
thinking
about
the
jail
itself.
G
So
you
know
in
the
past,
20
or
so
years,
you've
seen
pretty
significant
decline
in
crime,
but
the
jail
population
has
continued
to
increase
over
that
time.
Only
in
the
most
recent
years,
starting
to
drop
and
and
just
by
the
data,
you've
got
a
lot
of
people
in
the
jail
who
have
underlying
mental
health
services
or
mental
health
service
needs,
36
percent
previously
accessing
homeless
or
I'm
sorry,
mental
health
services,
32
substance,
use
services,
6
homeless
services,
56
emergency
department
services,
and
we
look
at
this
by
race.
G
We
find
that
people
black
people
in
particular
are
not
accessing
as
many
of
those
services
in
advance,
so
we're
not
reaching
people
with
these,
perhaps
preventive
services,
and
they
are
perhaps
ending
up
in
the
jail
due
to
their
human
services
needs.
We
know
the
numbers
are
even
higher
for
people
who
cycle
in
and
out
of
the
jail,
and
we
know
it's
not
just
our
jails
right.
G
It's
it's
our
emergency
departments,
our
homeless
system,
our
mental
health
crisis
services,
just
looking
at
frequent
utilizers
of
mental
health
crisis
services,
we
find
that
in
the
year
following
that
those
episodes
of
significant
mental
health
crisis
40,
that's
a
huge
number.
You
never
see
that
in
the
homeless,
shelter
data,
40
accessing
homeless,
shelter,
services
in
the
year
following
80
percent,
staggering
number
accessing
emergency
department
paid
for
by
medicaid
and
again
really
high
numbers
of
people
being
arrested
and
booked.
G
This
is
something
that
many
cities
and
counties
can't
do
across
the
country.
So
I
hope
you
take
advantage
of
some
of
that
analysis
and
we
are
happy
to
do
other
analysis
to
support
your
work
as
you
proceed.
G
So
what
are
we
working
on
to
help
improve
crisis
response
and
keep
people
who
don't
need
to
be
in
jail?
I
mean,
I
think,
folks,
know
this,
but
you
know
the
vast
majority
of
people
being
held
in
the
jail
are
pre-trial
right,
very
few
sentenced
or
convicted
of
their
their
current
charge,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
there
all
right.
So
we've
we
we've.
As
I
mentioned
as
kind
of
our
values,
we
are
always
trying
to
improve
the
supports.
We
we.
G
You
know
you
know
a
bunch
of
years
ago
at
this
point
where
the
the
justice
system
wasn't
wasn't
really
ready
for
human
services
engagement
in
their
work.
That's
certainly
changed.
You
can
hear
that
from
the
mayor.
You
can
hear
that
from
connect
and
and
that
there's
a
real
desire
to
be
working
together
differently
now,
and
certainly
a
real
demand
from
the
community
to
do
so.
G
So
in
2017
we
issued
an
rfp
to
take
an
independent
look
at
our
our
behavioral
health
and
justice
system
supports
knowing
that
there
might
be
more.
We
could.
We
could
do
and
wanted
an
independent
outside
look,
so
we
received
our
final
recommendations
in
2019.
G
There's
a
this
is
a
picture
of
the
report,
a
link
to
the
report
there
and
and
have
started
taking
action
on
those
those
findings.
As
of
2019,
I
mean,
I
think
I
mean
there's
a
bunch
of
findings
there,
but
one
of
the
biggest
ones
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
supports
further
down
the
system
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
real
need
to
be
looking
at
the
front
end
right.
What
happened?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
people
are
supported?
G
So
that
they're,
not
in
crisis,
and
how
do
we
support
them
in
kind
of
this
pre-crisis
crisis
step?
So
I'm
gonna
talk
about
most
of
the
stuff,
not
in
in
red
in
a
bit,
but
I
wanted
to
just
mention
clearly
like
one
of
our
key
goals
is
to
make
sure
whether
it's
one
stop
human
services
hubs
or
something
else
that
people
can
get
access
to
the
services
get
assessed,
get
triage,
get
enrolled
in
care
in
a
welcoming,
not
non-judgmental
environment.
That
incorporates
peer
support.
We
want
this
early.
G
We
want
this
available
throughout
the
community
and
has
has
caused
us
to
rethink
some
of
the
ways
we
think
about
this
work,
but
just
a
real
acknowledgement
that
we
need
preventative
and
supportive
care
prior
to
crisis.
So
I
I
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion.
G
I
think-
or
I
don't
know
interest
in
this
idea,
so
I
wanted
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
talking
about
the
crisis
response
stakeholder
group
that
has
been
convened
and
has
city
and
connect
representatives
as
well,
as
was,
as
others
chaired
by
matt
brown,
who's,
the
chief
of
emergency
services
and
mark
turner,
my
boss,
who's
the
director
of
the
department
of
human
services.
So
we've
just
convened
this
group
and
the
goal
is
to
understand
the
system
better
hear
from
stakeholders
and
people
impacted,
identify
new
interventions
and
investments
and
enhance
coordination
about.
G
With
existing
and
developing
new
interventions,
so
just
a
little
bit,
I'm
I'm
nearing
the
end
so
hold
on
for
it,
but
so
some
just
some
notes
of
vision
here
for
this
improved
crisis
system.
As
I
said,
I
think
we
have
a
bunch
of
services.
They
are
somewhat
disconnected
and
they're,
not
everything
that
the
community
needs
at
this
point.
So
we
we
want
these
crisis
supports
and
services
to
function
well
together
and
center
communities
of
color
in
in
those
services.
We
want
fewer
people
to
be
in
active
crisis
in
this.
G
You
know
on
the
streets
and
elsewhere
so
that
they
get
the
services
they
need
before
they're
in
active
crisis.
Whenever
possible,
law
enforcement
would
not
be
the
only
the
first
or
only
response
to
people
with
underlying
behavioral
health
needs,
intellectual
disabilities
or
those
who
are
unhoused
jail.
Incarceration
is
no
longer
used
to
connect
people
to
needed,
behavioral
health
supports
and
treatment
that
still
happens
far
too
often,
and
part
of
that
is
education
and
part
of
that
is.
We
need
to
have
those
services
ready
and
on
demand
for
people.
So
there's
a
lot.
G
We
need
to
do
as
well
and
that
people
have
more
and
easier
access
to
structurally
competent,
culturally
humble
trauma-informed
human
services
in
the
community.
So
you
know,
as
I've
already
mentioned,
the
objectives
are
to
identify
gaps
and
opportunities.
Research
we've
done
a
lot
of
this,
but
continue
to
research.
Best
practices
and
models
in
other
jurisdictions
learn
from
people
hear
from
people
co-design
with
people
with
lived
experience
in
our
systems.
G
We
haven't
done
all
of
the
work,
and
so
we
I
don't
want
to
jump
to
strategies,
but
we
we
think
some
of
these
things
are
potential
and
not
you
know,
on
the
table
for
consideration
so
expanding
and
or
enhancing
proactive
outreach
and
engagement
for
people
who
are
at
risk
of
crisis,
investing
in
behavioral
health
services
and
supports
that
are
led
and
operated
by
communities
of
color,
developing
approaches
that
incorporate
behavioral
health
and
human
service
specialists
into
county's
public
safety
response
strategies,
for
example,
dispatching
behavioral
health
professionals
directly
from
9-1-1
or
pairing
behavioral
health
professionals,
with
the
police
to
respond
to
calls
for
service,
improve
referral
and
connections
between
first
responders
and
critical
human
services
and
crises
after
crises
occur.
G
I'm
sorry
so
improving
those
connections
between
first
responders
and
critical
human
services
and
supporting
agencies
responsible
for
responding
to
those
behavioral
health
crises
to
undergo
racial
equity
transformation.
So
this
is
both
in
the
behavioral
health
system.
Also,
we've
started
this
work
with
with
the
courts
and
and
other
stakeholders.
G
I
just
also
last
two
slides,
I
think,
wanted
to
mention
a
related
large
county
court
initiative
that
does
involve
city
partners
as
well.
This
is
the
macarthur
funded
safety
and
justice
challenge.
The
goal
here
is
to
reduce
the
jail
population,
redesign
the
jail
to
meet
the
the
new
needs
for
the
population
and
reduce
racial
disparities
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
More
generally,
we
have
a
credible
plan
to
get
the
jail
to
about
a
thousand.
G
That's
the
goal
to
keep
it
there
there's
we
feel,
there's
far
fewer
people
that
need
to
be
in
jail
than
there
are
right
now
and
to
again
redesign
that
the
jail
hear
from
people
go
through
a
redesign
process
so
that
we
understand
from
stakeholders
what
is
really
needed
inside
the
jail,
how
to
make
it
as
safe
and
rehabilitative
as
possible.
G
So
some
of
the
strategies
are
here
I'll
say
I
just
want
to
mention
why
the
city
and
city
and
policing
more
generally
has
really.
This
has
been
going
on
for
a
couple
of
years,
this
project
and
we're
just
bringing
kind
of
the
front
end
of
the
system
into
into
the
to
the
work.
That
is
because
a
lot
of
the
the
efforts
needed
to
reduce
jail
population,
at
least
in
the
couple
years
before
now,
was
really
around
time.
G
To
case
disposition,
so
court
processing
moving
faster,
so
a
big
portion
of
the
work
we've
been
doing
over
the
past
couple
of
years
and
still
really
have
to
do.
It
was
expediting
court
processing.
Now
our
strategies
are
much
more
inclusive
of,
for
example,
crisis
response
and
reducing
bookings
at
first
appearance
and
and
so
on.
So
I
wanted
to
mention
that
all
right,
I'm
done
jen
as
anything
significant
you'd
want
or
or
not,
that
you'd
want
to
add
there
or
correct.
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
thing:
the
slide
that
aaron
talked
through
that
had
the
9-1-1
dispatch
information.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
top-line
number
there
is
the
total
number
of
dispatches
for
the
county,
and
then
the
the
table
shows
the
breakdown
of
met
of
behavioral
health
related
dispatches
yeah.
This.
H
G
B
Thank
you,
aaron
and
jen,
we're
also
joined
by,
I
believe
councilwoman
strasberger
there.
She
is
on
my
screen,
so
I
want
to
thank
her
and
our
last
guest
and
then
we'll
take
questions
and
just
so
council
members
know
we
will
try
to
get
these
slides
together
for
you
and
mail
them
out.
B
I
think
it'd
be
easier
to
to
look
in
that
direction,
but
if
we
can
now
have
dan
go
from
allegheny,
general
or
allegheny
health
network,
sorry
to
talk
about,
you
know
his
program
for
homeless
and
urban
poverty.
That
would
be
great
and
so
dan
I'll
pass
it
off
to
you.
Thank
you.
Awesome.
I
Thank
you
for
having
me,
and
it
was
really
good
to
see,
joellen
and
lydia
and
aaron
and
kelly
on
here
to
talk
about
the
work
that
they
do
in
the
community.
This
is
a
really
good
opportunity
just
to
talk
about
all
of
the
human
services
that
exist,
but
you
know
more
specifically.
I
I
think
the
area
that
we
are
working
in
at
ahn
is
on
street
homelessness,
mental
health
and
the
co-response,
with
law
enforcement
and
public
safety
to
look
specifically
at
substance,
use
and
mental
health
interactions
that
they
have
around
homeless
individuals
and
trying
to
support
them
as
they
do
this
work,
because
we've
all
recognized
by
now
that
this
is
stuff
that
they
have
been
valiantly
doing
for
a
long
time,
although
they
don't
have
the
training
to
do
it,
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
address
these
needs,
and
so
this
is
something
that
we've
you
know
conceived
of
as
a
compliment
to
the
work
that
public
safety
does
and
all
of
the
other
human
services
that
aaron
magnificently
outlined
in
her
presentation.
I
I
So
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
my
background.
First
is
that
I
worked
for
several
years
with
doctors
without
borders
overseas.
I
was
a
medical
coordinator
for
a
refugee
camp
in
greece
in.
I
Was
just
recently
in
the
news
for
burning
down,
but
I
returned
to
pittsburgh
and
I
got
engaged
with
dr
jim
withers,
who
many
of
you
know
he's
the
founder
of
operation
safety
unit
and
we
had
a
long
conversation
and
he
convinced
me
to
come
and
work
in
the
low
barrier,
shelter,
the
winter
shelter
and
the
first
thing
that
I
noticed
when
I
was
working
there
was
that
there
are
so
many
parallels
between
you
know
the
individuals
that
we
work
with
in
this
community
that
are
displaced
and
homeless
and
people
elsewhere
in
other
situations
that
are
also
dispossessive
of
home
and
all
of
their
possessions
and
there's
a
really
strong
drive
to
find
community
in
all
these
spaces.
I
Regardless
of
you
know
where
they
find
themselves.
There's
always
this
incredible
resilience
that
you
see
in
people
trying
to
build
community
out
of
almost
nothing
and-
and
so
you
know
seeing
that
common
thread
in
the
work.
It
became
a
very
natural
progression
for
me
to
move
into
the
the
shelter
work
and
then
working
as
a
case
manager,
program
manager
going
up
through
the
the
the
organization
and
running
the
the
outreach
program
at
operation.
Safety
net,
which
is
doing
incredible,
work.
A
big
part
of
what
this
grant
was.
I
You
know
recognizing
it
as
being
able
to
address
was
the
the
the
need
for
more
of
this
relationship.
I
Building
that
we've
seen
is
so
critical
to
the
work
with
people
who
are
frequently
having
very
quick
engagements
with
service
providers
and
there's
high
turnover
in
that
staff
because
of
all
the
burnout
as
well
so
looking
at
how
we
could
create
a
system
that
was
well
supported
that
didn't
take
on
too
much,
but
was
able
to
base
itself
in
a
community
and
try
to
really
address
critical
needs
for
people
who
have
watched
a
lot
of
these
relationships
fall
away
and
that's
something
that
street
outreach
has
been
able
to
do,
and
that's
something
that
jim
and
his
model
over
at
operation.
I
Safetynet
has
pioneered
now
internationally
to
to
work
with
people
over
time
and
recognize
that
these
relationships
are
the
critical
foundation
of
every
other
intervention
that
we
try
to
do
in
all
of
the
service
provision
landscape
without
the
the
trust
and
the
respect
with
an
individual.
Many
of
these
things
fail
to
really
take
hold,
and
so
you
know
you
may
be
able
to
have.
You
know
even
crisis
response
right.
I
We
look
at
crisis
response
and
we
see
it
as
in
hearing
within
a
broad
spectrum
of
mental
health
response,
but
this
is
an
acute
sort
of
often
one-off
engagement
and
then
that
individual
may
never
meet
with
the
crisis
responder
again,
so
the
goal
is
to
try
to
provide
meaningful
relationships
that
persist
over
time
and
ideally
underlie
all
of
these
other
service
engagements
that
people
are
having
across
the
continuum.
I
So
with
that
in
mind,
we've
we've
taken
on
this.
This
esg
outreach
expansion
program
and
I'll
just
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
street
outreach.
So
this
number
fluctuates,
but
there
are,
there
are
four.
Sometimes
it's
five,
but
county
contracted
street
outreach
professionals
that
are
working
in
the
space.
Now
there
are
lots
of
volunteer
groups
that
do
this
work
and
they
do
incredible.
Work.
I
We've
come
actually
to
rely
on
volunteers
in
this
space
very
heavily,
and
the
difficulties
that
that
presents
are
that
there's
a
lack
of
consistency
and
reliability,
especially
sustainability,
around
resources
and
the
provision
of
critical
material
goods
that
people
need
are
sometimes
being
provided
solely
by
volunteer
groups.
So
that's
something
that
we've
we've
seen
and
we've
watched
fall
apart.
We've
watched
groups
start
up
and
do
amazing
work
and
then
fall
away.
I
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
created
something
that
attenuated
expectations
for
people
and
made
sure
that
they
recognized
that
this
is
something
that
we
can
do
over
time
and
that
it's
it's
primarily
meant
to
address
the
the
difficulty
around
consistency
and
sustainability
with
these
relationships.
I
So
you
know
something
about
street
outreach
and
I've
already
mentioned
it.
Is
this
extreme
dedication
and
diligence?
That's
required
to
do
this
work.
It's
it's
very
difficult
work,
because
in
a
given
day,
you
may
meet
with
40
different
people
all
within
some
variety
of
crisis.
You
know
and
you
may
meet
them
under
a
bridge.
You
know,
and
you
might
walk
up
on
someone
who's
in
the
process
of
using
or
you
may
be.
I
You
know,
give
an
entree
into
an
abandoned
home
where
there's
an
entire
family
living
and
they
just
have
nothing,
and
you
have
to
walk
through
those
engagements
and
try
to
understand
the
situation
that
they're
in,
but
you
you
really
want
to
practice
active
listening,
so
you
want
to
sit
in
that
space
with
them
and
recognize
that
they
already
have
an
idea
of
what
it
is
that
they
need,
and
it
often
doesn't
match
what
you
initially
think
they
need
right.
I
I
mean
we
project
on
people
all
the
time
say:
surely
this
guy,
he
just
needs,
he
needs
house.
You
know
this.
Guy
has
been
outside
for
15
years.
This
guy
needs
house
and
he'll.
Tell
you
no,
no,
no,
no,
he
needs
better
luggage,
you
know
and
he's
just
fixated
on
the
luggage
or
he's
fixated
on.
You
know
getting
a
ukulele
right
and,
and
you're
like
this
is.
This
is
not
your
priority
man,
but
the
reality
is.
I
Is
that
without
acknowledging
the
needs
that
are
self-identified
by
these
individuals,
we
we
fail
to
gain
the
trust
and
respect
that
form
the
foundation
of
the
relationship
that
becomes
basically
a
springboard
for
all
of
these
other
system
and
service
level
engagements.
So
that's
the
work
of
street
outreach.
That's
what
we
try
to
do
every
day
is
build
those
foundational
relationships
so
that
these
people
begin
to
open
up
and
begin
to
trust
that
you
have
their
best
interests
at
heart.
I
So
you
know
there
are
a
couple
of
core
elements
and
I'll
say
first,
that
this
program
that
we're
putting
together
wants
to
address
the
person,
the
person
on
the
street,
the
provider
trying
to
support
providers
and
provide
infrastructure
for
those
individuals
who
are
out
there
doing
this
work
every
day.
You
know
mostly
they're
driving
to
a
community,
we'll
get
a
3-1-1
request,
we'll
get
someone
you
know,
and
maybe
one
of
the
councilmen's
offices
that
say
hey.
You
know:
we've
got
this
guy
he's
living
in
the
woods
behind
someone's
house.
I
Can
you
do
something
about
it
and
they're
popping
all
over
the
community
trying
to
often
put
out
fires,
but
communication
and
infrastructure
are
are
lacking
and
it's
it's
really
just
trying
to
wrangle
a
bunch
of
disparate
forces,
the
volunteers
that
I've
mentioned
earlier,
the
people
that
are
contracted
with
the
county,
bringing
them
all
together
to
have
some
sort
of
continuum
of
communication
so
that
we
we're
not
duplicating
services,
since
we
have
so
few
resources
to
begin
with,
but
trying
to
link
everyone
together.
I
That's
doing
this
work
and
has
been
tasked
with
addressing
these
issues,
and
that
includes
first
responders.
So,
historically,
we've
had
a
lot
of
difficulty,
finding
meaningful
ways
and
sustainable
ways
to
engage
with
first
responders
so
that
we
can
actually,
you
know,
intervene.
Aaron
and
joellen.
Both
mention
these
upstream
areas
of
intercession
right
that
is
critical
here,
and
every
engagement
with
law
enforcement
professional
represents
an
opportunity
for
engagement,
but
also
it's
an
upstream.
I
Even
if
it's
just
above
you
know,
criminal
justice
engagement,
it's
an
upstream
engagement
that
allows
people
to
have
an
option
to
access
a
service
rather
than
to
have
some
perilous
outcome.
So
you
know
looking
at
first
responders,
looking
at
community
in
general,
I
mean
that's.
The
core
of
this
program
is
trying
to
address
the
needs
of
individual
communities
and
and
joellen
brought
up
jurisdictional
equity.
That
is
sort
of
the
underlying
ideology
here,
which
is
that
there
are
neighborhoods
in
the
city
and
they
are
all
distinct.
I
Everyone
here
knows
that
the
we
have
a
rich
tradition
of
very
unique
neighborhoods
and
their
needs
are
just
as
as
different
as
their
the
cultures
of
these
little
enclaves,
and
so
looking
at
that
and
recognizing
that
some
of
the
needs
in
one
neighborhood
don't
match
the
needs
in
another,
and
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
accommodate
these
differences
in
the
services
that
we
provide.
I
It's
not
a
one-size-fits-all
approach,
and
so,
in
order
to
do
that,
we've
decided
that
you
know
with
the
city
which
in
the
rfp
they
had
said,
we
would
like
to
really
really
focus
on
zones
one
two
and
five.
So
these
are
the
zones
that
correspond
to
the
police
zones
and
looking
at
these
communities
because
they
have
a
variety
of
different
needs
and
none
of
the
three
zones
are
the
same.
I
But
we
we
wanted
to
look
at
them
and
say:
how
are
we
going
to
address
this
jurisdictional
equity
piece?
Some
of
the
zones
are
saturated
with
human
services.
I
If
you
look
at
three,
you
see
mercy's
campuses
right
in
the
south
side
and
there's
a
lot
of
engagement
that
happens
there,
even
though
they
have
a
high
level
of
homelessness.
You
know
one
two
and
five
are
all
sort
of
dealing
with
their
own
challenges.
You
know
downtown
becomes
the
locus
of
a
lot
of
the
intersections
of
you
know
you
have
a
what
is
often
termed
an
urban
service
dependent
ghetto,
which
is
that
you
have
the
centralization
of
services
in.
A
I
Dense
area
and
it's
it's
accessible
relative
to
public
transportation,
but
what
you
get
is
a
sort
of
concentration
of
people
with
a
variety
of
needs
and
and
looking
to
to
to
understand
what
community
means
for
the
individuals
that
we're
serving
means
trying
to
understand
where
they're
coming
from
and
where
they
ultimately
settle.
I
So
you
know
the
north
side
is
an
incredible
community
that
has
issues
that
vary
very
widely
from
say,
homewood
in
zone
five,
and
so
what
we've
we've
had
to
do
is
kind
of
address
each
one
of
these
zones
separately
and
say:
how
do
we
make
this
model
meet
the
needs
of
each
one
of
the
of
the
spaces
that
we're
going
to
be
working.
I
In
so
this
is
our
this
is
an
org
chart
that
I
think,
will
help
give
a
broader
understanding
of
what
the
team
will
look
like
that
we're
standing
up
here,
so
no
one
has
been
hired
yet
we're
just
beginning,
and
but
what
you
can
see
here
is
that
I'll
start
with
the
knight
integrated
team
in
the
lower
right
hand
corner.
So
this
is
something
that
we've
seen
time
and
time
again
working
with
people
on
the
street.
I
None
of
the
the
difficulties
that
people
face
while
they're
outside
align
with
at
all
normal
business
hours
and
many
of
the
services
that
exist
are,
you
know,
operating
between
this
nine
to
five
model.
So
where
can
someone
go
after
hours?
This
is
why
police
are
so
heavily
relied
on
because
of
their
responsiveness
right.
They
are
being
called
at
all
hours
of
the
day
and
night
and
they
respond.
I
So
that's
why
we
lean
on
them
for
a
lot
of
these.
These
issues,
the
knight
integrated
team,
is
going
to
be
going
out
every
night
throughout
the
week
to
canvas
areas
that
are
typically
frequented
by
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
goal
is
to
create
relationships
and
engage
with
people
who,
otherwise,
during
the
day
may
be
doing
something
completely
different.
Maybe
they're.
You
know
off
doing
odd
jobs
or
panhandling
wherever
they
are,
but
they're,
typically
not
in
the
camps.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
people.
I
Build
relationships,
provide
resources
for
them.
Food,
blankets,
things
like
this
and
there'll
be
a
clinical
worker
with
them
too,
to
address
any
health
care
needs.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
really
excited
about,
because
it's
based
on
a
model
in
boston
which
is
you
know,
has
been
really
really
effective
in
in
meeting
with
people.
The.
F
I
Teams
in
the
zones
each
one
of
them
has
a
team
lead
which
will
sort
of
coordinate,
shelter
admissions,
and
then
you
have
outreach
specialists,
which
are
the
individuals
that
were
most
familiar
with
working
in
the
community
and
then
community
health
workers.
The
community
health
workers
are
people
that
are
from
those
communities
and
they
understand
the
needs
that
that
exists
there
and
they
also
speak
the
language
of
of
people
that
are
that
are
staying
outside
in
these
various
zones.
I
So
you
know
we
already
have
a
a
bunch
of
people
lined
up
for
these
things,
but
they
are
the
liaisons
between
all
the
systems,
they're
relatable
they're
personable,
and
they
build
these
relationships
with
people
on
the
street
every
day,
and
they
will
be.
You
know,
having
those
sort
of
meaningful
engagements
with
people
to
try
to
loop
them
into
to
services.
I
So
again,
this
upstream
intervention,
stuff
that
you
know
joellen
and
aaron
both
touched
upon
these
are
these:
are
you
know,
discharged
from
the
hospital
eds
jail
discharge?
These
are
two
critical
points
of
intervention
that
if
we
can
move
in
and
start
to
talk
to
people
about,
we
might
be
able
to
prevent
some
downstream
things.
I
know
last
summer
there
were
several
incidents,
wrote
involving
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
I
think
three
of
them
had
been
discharged
from
jail
within
the
last
48
hours.
I
So
how
do
we
actually
step
in
there
and
provide
meaningful
engagement
with
with
folks
before
they
get
into
these
situations?
I
There's
a
lot
of
collaborative
efforts
going
on
in
recognition
of
some
of
these
crises
that
have
been
happening,
which
is
really
exciting.
You
know
dhs
is
really
leading
the
charge
on
this
stuff,
but
you
know
the
new
shelter
which
aaron
mentioned
is
going
to
be
an
incredible
hub,
and
then
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
at
the
city
is
going
to
help
coordinate
with
public
safety,
recognizing
that
public
safety
is
put
in
these
situations.
How
do
we
support
them
in
doing
this,
and
we've
done
some?
I
We've
done
some
training
with
the
police
academy
and
it's
been
really
effective.
So
this
is
something
that
you
know
we're
going
to
continue
along
with
colleen,
bristow
and
and
the
crew
of
folks
over
there
at
the
police
academy
and
making
sure
that
officers
recognize
that
there
are
supports
that
exist
and
also
that
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
are
very
relatable
and
they're.
Human.
I
Lastly,
I'll
just
touch
upon
the
co-responder
model,
which
is
you
know,
a
big
part
of
this
pilot.
I
It
is
the
sort
of
the
crux
of
of
a
lot
of
the
the
issues
that
we're
seeing
and
I
think
a
big
part
of
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do
is
build
those
relationships
with
the
outreach
workers
and
the
community
health
workers
and
then
integrate
those
relationships
into
a
joint
case
conferencing
model
with
law
enforcement
and
public
safety,
so
that
we
can
have
you
know
enhanced
and
meaningful
conversations
about
the
same
people
that
we're
both
engaging
with
to
try
to
find
more
durable
outcomes
for
people
that
are
that
are
staying
outside
and
the
goal
ideally,
is
that
once
we've
developed
this
reciprocal
understanding
of
what
our
capacities
are
as
human
services
and
homeless
services,
provider
and
and
what
the
the
capacity
of
law
enforcement
is
or
what
they're
willing
to
do,
we
can
start
having
post
response
where
we'll
come
in
and
support
individuals.
I
You
know
I
I
hope
in
in
concert
with
a
lot
of
the
efforts
that
connect
is,
is
pushing
and
dhs
with
the
crisis.
Responder
group,
the
goal
ultimately
would
be
co-response,
which
is
to
jointly
engage
with
people
on
the
street.
And
if
the
issue
is
something
that
falls
within
the
purview
of
human
services,
then
that
would
be
handed
off
to
them
and
it
would
sort
of.
I
So
these
are
just
some
assessments
that
we
had
with
our
training.
But
overall
you
know
the
the
public
safety
partnership
is
critical
and
it's
something
that
we
are
we're
piloting
and
trying
to
better
understand
here.
You
know,
as
long
as
we
can
support
the
individual
communities
in
their
engagements
with
public
safety
and
support
these
officers,
who
are
being
put
in
these
situations
to
try
to
manage
some
of
the
the
expectations
of
the
community
as
well.
You
know,
I
think,
we'll
have
a
really
really
interesting
opportunity
to
try
to.
I
I
think
shore
up
services
that
already
exist
and
aaron
enumerated
many
of
them,
but
try
to
address
sort
of
the
the
joints
of
the
system
and
and
shore
those
up
and
and
galvanize
some
of
the
the
historical
needs
that
have
existed
in
this
space.
I
So
that's
all.
I
have
happy
to
take
questions.
B
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I
think
you
know
all
the
speakers
and
I
see
that
we're
joined
with
by
council
member
coghill
as
well
and
I'll
get
to
council
colleagues
questions
in
a
minute.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
everybody
in
this
conversation
touched
upon
some
of
the
key
issues
that
we're
hearing
collaboration,
mental
health,
police
training,
different
types
of
community
policing
models.
B
I
think
all
these
things
are
great.
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
bridge
those
gaps,
and
I
know
even
you
know
the
model
that
you're
talking
about
or
dan
just
spoke
of
with
with
chief
schubert,
and
I
had
a
conversation
about
this
a
couple
months
ago
and
just
trying
these
you
know,
new
pilots
do
collaboration
with
a
number
of
entities
that
we
usually
don't
see
every
day,
because
they're
county-wide
or
they're
with
a
different
entity
that
we
only
hear
about
down
the
road.
B
So
that
way
is
the
big
reason
why
we
wanted
to
get
everybody
together
to
talk
about
what's
going
on
and
how
we
especially
coming
into
budget
season,
and
a
lot
of
you
were
talking
about
funding
how
we
as
council,
can
you
know,
put
funding
behind
that
because
it
seems
like
to
me
everything
is
a
domino
effect
and
one
ripple
hurts
everything
else.
So
you
know
for
us
to
provide
just
one
thing
for
next
year,
because
the
budget's
going
to
be
tight
will
only
help
those
individuals
as
well
as
public
safety
and
the
whole
community.
B
So
I
would
probably
my
question
would
be
and
I'll
you
can
answer
it
at
the
end.
But
if
each
one
of
you
said
to
us
hey,
you
know
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
I'm
just
using
a
number
would
go
a
really
long
way
in
bridging
that
gap.
That's
something
that
we
would
like
to
hear
and
again
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
spot,
but
I
think
that's
something
as
chair
of
public
safety.
B
When
we
look
at
the
public
safety
budget,
that's
something
that
we
need
to
know
what
those
types
of
numbers
could
be
coming
down.
The
road
in
the
next
couple
months,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
I'll
start,
an
order
of
when
they
signed
in
and
I
know
councilman
member
wilson
was
first
then
council,
member
strasberger
and
then
council
coghill,
so
I'll.
Let
council,
council
wilson
take
over.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
councilman,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
speakers
that
they
came
today
and
and
presented.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
knowledge
and.
A
J
Had
I've,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
already
start
working
with
mr
popka,
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
I
wanted
to
I
I
guess
I'll
start
with
I'll
start
with
you
dan.
I
won
the
you
know,
you
alluded
to.
You
know
people
that
are
coming
out
of
the
jail.
You
know
during
the
time
of
covid.
J
There
was,
I
believe
there
was.
You
know
not
as
many
people
that
were
held
at
the
jail
they
were
trying
to
limit
the
numbers,
and
I
wanted
to
you
know
someone
else
alone.
You
know
here
may
be
able
to
speak
that
as
well
aaron.
J
I
believe
you
were
speaking
about
the
the
numbers
in
the
jail,
but
really
what
services
you
know
have
been
provided,
or
what
do
we
have
in
place
for
people
in
that
situation,
especially
during
times
of
covet?
Could
you
expand
on
that.
I
So
I'll
defer
to
county-wide
response,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
you
know
when
people
were
released
from
the
jail
and
they
were,
you
know,
released
in
droves.
The
difficulty
we
experienced
was:
how
do
we
meaningfully
plan
for
people
as
they're
exiting
the
the
system
so
that
they
don't
fall
back
into
the
same
or
worse
situation
that
they
had
come
into
the
the
jail
from?
I
So
there
was
a
day
shortly
after
one
of
the
like
mass
exodus
of
people,
leaving
where
a
new
camp
had
cropped
up,
because
there
were
eight
people
that
I
hadn't
seen
in
months
and
they
had
all
said
yeah,
we
just
got
out
of
jail
and
they
were
right
back
out
on
the
street.
So
I
bring
that
up
only
to
say
that
planning
and
discharge
is
a
critical,
critical
space
and
trying
to
work
with
people.
I
I
mean
they
have
a
brief
interaction
with
the
social
workers
at
the
jail
and
then
they
leave
and
that's
not
the
fault
of
the
social
workers
or
the
jail,
but
putting
resources
into
that
space
will
pay
dividends
later
on,
because
that's
one
of
those
upstream
interventions
where,
if
we
just
do
a
little
bit
of
planning
and
ask
someone
hey,
where
are
you
going
to
go,
do
you
need
connected
to
shelter?
Do
you
need
connected
to
housing
resources?
I
On
the
street
that
are,
you
know,
just
out
of
jail
and
still
trying
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
with
them.
G
Can
I
do
you
mind
if
I
jump
in
councilman,
please
just
a
couple
of
notes,
just
starting
with
the
numbers.
I
just
want
you
to
know
on
howdini
county
analytics,
you
can
every
day
get
the
count,
and
so
just
to
I
can
we
can.
We
can
show
folks
how
to
do
that.
So
you
can
see
that
there
was
a
really
big
decline.
G
It
has
started
going
up
a
little
bit
in
the
in
the
past
couple
of
months
as
arrests
have
increased
and
and
the
courts
are
are
challenged
by
covid,
also
to
dispose
of
cases.
So
and
as
you
guys,
as
I
mentioned
as
you
guys,
really
you.
F
G
In
a
lot
of
cases,
people
aren't
set,
the
people
who
are
in
the
jail
are
not
sentenced
to
the
jail
for
the
sentenced
medium
to
high-risk
population
who
research
suggests
would
be
have
the
most
benefit
from
services
and
case
coordination
and
so
on.
We
do
have
a
re-entry
program
that
has
been
shown
through
national,
independent
evaluation
to
reduce
recidivism.
G
So
for
those
very
few
folks
right,
I'm
not
trying
to
act
like
it's
the
entire
jail,
but
for
those
few
folks
who
are
have
the
benefit
of
that
we
there
is
real
reentry
planning
and
support
and
coordination.
G
We
have
something
in
the
jail
called
the
discharge
center
release
center.
They
are
supposed
to
do
all
of
the
things
that
dan
you
just
talked
about.
People
are
supposed
to.
You
know
not
exit
to
homelessness
and
and
to
living
on
the
street.
We
we
do
have
transportation
boundaries,
we
do
have
clothes
and
support
one
shot.
I
mean
I
do
always
need
to
continue
to
look
at
how
those
services
are
going
right.
So
we
can.
We
will
do
that
I'll
see
how
the
discharge
and
release
center
is
going
right.
G
This
second,
and
as
you
might
expect,
sometimes
people
don't
want
to
wait.
You
know
they
don't
want.
You
know
they
see.
They
see
that
step
as
the
step
between
freedom
and
you
know
being
locked
up,
and
so
sometimes
we
just
can't
convince
them
to
to
let
us
support
them
at
that
stage,
but
we
know
that
the
first
24
hours
after
release
the
first
48
hours
are
very
critical
around
recidivism.
G
We
did
also
just
to
just
to
note
I
mean
we've
been
tracking
recidivism,
of
course,
of
we
always
track
recidivism,
but
also
of
the
covid
you
know
releases
and
that
recidivism
was
really
really
low.
I
mean
it
was
a
very
strange
time
so,
but
in
any
case
I
I
I
do
see
the
importance
of
this
as
an
intervention
point.
We
see
it
as
an
important
place
to
support.
G
We
have
tried
to
put
in
place
some
some
interventions
there,
but
we'll
look
at
them
and
always
take
feedback
on
how
to
make
them
better.
I
Aaron,
sorry,
just
to
your
point
about
the
ability
to
even
elicit
from
folks
whether
or
not
they
are
experiencing
homelessness
is
very
difficult.
So
even
when
they
enter
the
prison,
if
you
ask
them,
are
you
experiencing
homelessness?
I
Very
often
they
will
say
no,
even
if
they've
been
on
the
street
for
a
very
long
time,
because,
as
you
said,
that
may
mean
a
longer
term
in
in
prison
or
in
jail,
and
the
same
goes
for
the
emergency
department.
If
someone
goes
into
the
emergency
department
for
some
need
and
they
ask
them,
are
you
experiencing
homelessness?
Typically,
they
will
say
no,
because
that
might
mean
that
they'll
be.
You
know,
admitted
for
a
very
long
time
and
they
don't
know
what
that
means.
So
they'll
say
they'll,
say
no.
So
yeah.
J
J
So
I
appreciate
the
post
agenda
on
this
and
dan
the
program
and
laura
you
could
you
might
be
able
to
speak
to
this
as
well?
The
program
that
you're
working
on
is
a
grant
that
came
through
the
city
and
we
authorized
this
to
city
council.
Is
this
something
that
you
know?
J
I
guess
the
timeline
on
this
like?
How
long
do
we
have
and
if
we
get
reports
back
on,
you
know
how
productive
it's
been,
or
you
know
how
much
you
know
if
we
can
show
like
how
how
it's
been.
You
know
a
great
support
system,
you
know:
what's
the
plan,
do
we
have
a
plan
in
place
to
to
capture
that
data
and
and
to
really
show
what
we've
done
here
at
the
city
so
that
we
can
receive
more
funding
or
budget
for
this.
K
That's
a
very
good
question:
council
member
wilson.
I
think
you
know
right
now
we're
we're,
as
as
as
his
councilmember
o'connor
said,
we're
we're
really
trying
to
consider.
Pilots
and
and
pilots
don't
necessarily
have
a
sustainability
plan,
and
I
know
that's
something
that
dhs
has
to
think
about
a
lot
right,
because
when
you're
provisioning
services
to
an
entire
county,
pilots
are
difficult,
but
also,
I
think
we
can
recognize
that
the
police
and
ems
in
particular,
are
under
a
great
degree
of
duress,
and
we've
got
to
figure
out,
what's
gonna
work.
K
So
what
we're
looking
at
now
is
a
year
a
little
bit
beyond
a
year.
I
think
esg
hud
has
given
you
know
authorization
for
this
program
to
extend
until
the
funds
are
exhausted.
I
you
know-
and
I
can
defer
to
dan,
but
I
know
that
cih
or
ahn
is
looking
at
what
sustainability
models
are.
I
think
that
the
more
that
we
can
show
value
to
police
and
to
ems,
the
more
that
they
may
be
willing
to
see
this
more
as
part
of
their
comprehensive
set
of
services.
K
You
know
I
can
just
say
briefly
that
I've
I've
been
in
city
government
for
about
three
and
a
half
years.
So
it's
not
it's
not
terribly
long,
but
it's
long
enough
that
police
during
that
duration
have
all
said
they
need
help,
and-
and
I
know
that's
what
aaron
and
jenna
are
focused
on
as
well-
that
that
help
is
needed,
and
so,
if
we
can
find
a
model,
that's
going
to
remove
them
from
these
kind
of
situations
where
they
frankly
feel
kind
of
helpless.
K
You
know
they
have
to
look
look
and
talk
to
someone
who
they
don't
have
a
shelter
to
take
them
to.
They
don't
have
a
warm
place
for
them
to
stay.
They
don't
have
food,
they
don't
have
clothing,
they
don't
have
anything
and
they
have
to
say
to
them.
I'm
sorry,
the
bench
you're
sleeping
on
is
the
best
we
can
do.
K
They
want
to
not
be
in
those
situations,
and
we
don't
want
them
to
be
in
it.
So
I
think
that
there's
a
really
meaningful
case
to
police,
even
that,
if
we're
able
to
show
to
them
the
value
as
well,
which
they'll
be
working
very
closely
with
dan
and
his
teams
that
this
may
be
a
natural
place
for
the
city
to
continue
to
fund
as
well.
D
I
would
like
to
chime
in
just
a
little
bit.
I
would
echo
everything
that
dan
and
aaron
and
laura
have
said,
and
just
I
last
year
participated
in
a
pre-planning
process
just
looking
at
what
diversion
would
look
like
and
just
talking
to
people
about
their
ideas
of
more
upstream
kinds
of
interventions,
and
so
many
people
said
we
want
things
like
this.
We
need
them.
We
don't
want
to
be
taking
people
to
jail
in
many
of
these
cases.
D
We
know
that
if
we
take
somebody
to
jail
a
lot
of
times,
they're
back
in
their
community
before
we
are
that
we're
still
finishing
the
paperwork
by
the
time
they're
back
and
then
there
are
other
situations
where
people
go
and
in
the
process
they
might
lose
their
housing,
they
might
lose
their
job.
They
might
lose
their
kids
that
it's
not
just
about
getting
people
connected
to
things
once
they
leave,
but
it's
about
preventing
the
harm
that
can
happen
just
by
sending
them
to
jail
in
the
first
place
and
I
think
a
lot.
J
Okay.
Well,
thank
you.
I
have
another
question
I
might
have
one
later,
but
I
want
to
give
some
other
council
members
some
time.
The
other
question
I
had
was
so
you're
providing.
J
Like
a
resource
for
people,
essentially,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
on
this
call
are
or
they're
involved
in
the
management
of
it,
and
you
know
I
guess
this
is
another
question
for
for
dan
you're
gonna,
be
I
mean
I'm
very
excited
to
have
you
on
the
north
side,
and
you
know
so
I've
I've
taken
some
some
time
to
to
invest
in
in
learning
about
these
services,
because
you
know,
there's
been
this
commitment
to
invest
in
an
area
like
the
north
side,
where
there
is
the
need,
so
you
know
you're
providing
a
resource.
J
Can
you
can
you
talk
about
the
resources
that
you
have
in
place?
If
you
know
you
know
the
the
the
individuals
that
you'll
be
working
with,
and
specifically
you
know,
on
the
north
side
for
a
long
time,
we've
had
a
lot
of
faith-based
organizations
be
able
to
provide
the
service,
and
you
know
I
always
want
to
know
you
know
is
that
is
that
what
people
are
comfortable
with
that
are
experiencing
these
situation
that
they
may
be
in
and
do
you
have
you
know?
J
So
that's
a
question,
but
then
also
you
know,
do
you
have
a
you
know
if
there's
an
issue
there
do
do
they
have?
Do
you
have
other
resources
available
to
you
to
give
access
to
these
individuals.
I
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question
and
it's
something
that
comes
up
a
lot.
I
think
when
I
brought
up
the
volunteerism
earlier,
a
lot
of
the
church
groups
and
the
ministerium
and
everything
else.
We
provide
really
really
critical
resources
for
people,
and
I
think
they,
you
know,
they're,
not
county
funded
they're,
not
in
these
positions,
but
they
they
do
it
out
of
a
different
imperative.
I
So
for
for
the
north
side,
you
have
phenomenal
resources
from
a
faith-based
perspective.
I
mean
light
of
life.
Is
there
and
they
are
a
strong,
strong
partner,
and
you
know
for
the
entire
county
really
for
the
entire
city,
especially,
but
to
be
in
the
north
side.
You
have
you
know
a
really
dedicated
group
of
people
there
and
they're
coming
at
it
from
a
faith-based
perspective.
I
Jarrell
is
a
phenomenal
partner.
The
executive
director
of
light
of
life
and
we've
had
endless
conversations
about
how
to
integrate
our
services
so
that
they
can
be
complementary
in
that
space.
You
know
and
he's
super
excited
about
this
he's
drell
is
a
former
paramedic
that
went
through
the
center
for
emergency
medicine.
So
he
recognizes
this
stuff.
I
He
sees
it
as
super
critical
and
he
wants
to
bring
more
healthcare
into
the
space
that
he's
operating
in,
which
is,
you
know,
sort
of
unprecedented
in
that,
and
so
you
know
they're
putting
up
the
new
shelter
in
the
north
side
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we
are
doing
serves
as
an
access
point
to
those
sorts
of
services.
I
If
that
is
what
people
are
looking
for,
but
also
recognizing
that
there's
a
whole
array
of
other
shelter
options
and
and
services
for
people
should
they
choose
not
to
go
with
a
faith-based
approach.
That's
fine
and
you
know,
and
aaron
listed
all
the
many
services
and
it's
you
know
not
even
an
exhaustive
list
and
the
goal
I
think,
is
to
become
almost
a
navigation
center.
So
if
someone
comes
in
and
they
say
look,
I
had
bad
experiences
with
the
church
in
the
past.
You
know
I
don't
have
a
relationship
with
god
anymore.
I
That's
not
an
issue
at
all,
but
if
it
is
something
you
have
that
resource
in
your
community
to
connect
them
to,
and
we
have
those
relationships
with
their
outreach
team
to
to
to
connect
them
to
that.
So
we
don't
see
it
as
a
barrier,
we
think
of
it
as
almost
a
an
asset
in
terms
of
diversity
of
approaches.
With
regard
to
homelessness,
how
do
we
meet
people
where
they
are?
If,
if
it's
a
faith-based
approach,
then
that's
what
works?
You
know.
J
All
right,
I
have
myself
on
you,
so
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I'll
open
the
floor
up
thanks.
B
Thank
you,
councilman
I'll
go
with
councilwoman
strasberger,
followed
by
councilman
coghill.
L
Thanks
councilman-
and
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
hosting
this
post
agenda.
It
has
been
so
helpful
for
me.
I've
taken
the
summer.
This
has
been
the
summer
of
me,
educating
myself
and
learning
about
public
safety
about
policing
about
so
many
issues.
I
was
really
ignorant
about
before,
and
this
just
is
another
layer
on
top
of
that
understanding,
the
constellation
of
services
that
are
out
there
that
play
into
public
safety
overall,
not
just
policing
but
public
safety.
L
What
truly
makes
people
feel
safe
and
comfortable
living
in
this
region,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
for
presenting
and
dan.
You
know
you're
you're,
really
you're.
You
really
did
a
great
job
of
illustrating
through
examples
what
it
looks
like
to
meet
people
where
they
are
and
and
where
different
people
are
coming
from
and
what
kind
of
challenges
that
they
might
be
experiencing.
L
So
thanks
for
that
one
question
I
have
is,
I
think,
the
rhetoric
we
hear
and
it's
you
know,
I
think,
a
strong
belief
by
a
lot
of
people
that
when
we
talk
about
mental
health,
that
there's
an
actual
brick
and
mortar
place
right
that
the
rhetoric
is,
you
know,
president
reagan
shut
down
all
the
took
away
mental
health
funding
and
then
all
the
you
know,
centers
closed
hospitals
closed,
and
then
we
had
no
mental
health
services.
L
Now
if
we
were
to
see
adequate
funding
from
any
level
of
government
for
mental
health
services,
this
is
a
question
for
everyone.
For
anyone
who
can
who
can
answer
this,
you
know
what
would
that
look
like
my
sense,
what
I'm
picking
up
on
is
that
it's
not
necessarily
like
a
brick-and-mortar
place.
It's
not
no
longer
just
a
hospital.
L
It's
a
variety
of
different
types
of
services,
street
outreach
teams,
services
to
train
different
people
who
are
dealing
with
the
public
and
dealing
with
different
communities
so
that
they're
embedded
in
you
know
policing
and
ems,
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
it
is,
you
know,
access
to
everyday
mental
health
services
proactively.
But
if
someone
could
help
to
help
me
understand,
you
know
if
we
had
adequate
funding,
what
mental
health
services
would
look
like.
I
G
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and-
and
I
think
it
is
the
question
we
should
ask
of-
of
people
in
the
in
the
community.
What
do
they
want
these
services?
How
do
they
want
to?
You
know
to
get
care?
I
think
it
does
go
beyond
just
like.
You
know
the
whole
conversation
about
social
determinants
of
health
in
the
more
healthcare
area.
G
It
goes
to
all
kinds
of
basic
needs:
housing,
food,
clothing,
jobs-
I
mean
jobs,
you
know
is
so
much
a
big
part
feeling
productive
is
such
a
big
part
of
people's
well-being,
mental
health
and
and
so
on,
people
connections
to
other
people
and
community,
and
obviously
all
of
that
is
feel
so
challenged
during
during
this
time.
So
I
I
mean
I
I
wish
I
had.
I
mean,
even
if
I
had
a
perfect
answer
to
that
question,
I
shouldn't
provide
it
right.
G
I
think
we
do
need
to
talk
to
people
about
what
they
want
right
now
and
help
allow
them
to
help
co-design.
What
that
looks
like
I
do
I'll
just
say.
I
do
really
worry,
and
I
I'm
not
neces,
I'm
not.
You
know
I'm
I'm
not
a
mental
health.
Like
clinician
haven't,
spent
my
career
really
like
in
the
mental
health
services.
I
I
have
been
at
dhs
for
12
or
so
years.
So
a
lot
of
that
wears
off
I'll
say
I
do
really
worry
about
what
we
as
a
society.
G
G
We
have
so
little
in
terms
of
tools
around
involuntary
care
and
so
people,
you
know
the
jail
is
involuntary
care.
That's
what
people
do,
because,
because
people
can't
be
safe
in
their
situation,
for
that
for
that
time
period,
nobody
wants
to
go
back
to
you
know
some
situation
with
mental
health,
hospitals
that
are
inhumane
and
large
and
like
for
people
who
aren't
even
in
crisis
at
that
moment
who
stay
there
for
years
upon
end.
G
But
I
I
I
do
worry
about
what
we
do,
how
we
support
people,
how
we
house
them
for
those
brief
periods
that
they're
they're
in
real
need-
and
I
you
know
that's
a
controversial
topic
and
people
on
this
call-
might
have
have
ideas
about
that.
But
I
think
it
is
a
really
good,
important
question
to
be
talking
to
people
about.
L
Thank
you.
That's
that's
really
helpful
to
think
about
and
I'll
keep
I'll
keep
asking
questions
offline
to
understand
this
a
little
bit
better
too.
I
really
also
appreciated
the
conversation
around
and
many
different
people
touched
on
this.
You
know
not
only
developing
a
pilot
like
we
are
to
be
responsive
to
911
calls,
which
I
think
you
know
you
look
at.
The
a
lot
of
people
have
been
pointing
to
the
eugene
oregon
cahoots
program,
and
I
just
read
an
article
that
denver
after
many
years
of
sort
of
piloting
has
gotten
something
off
the
ground.
L
It
sounds
like
boston
has
as
well,
which
I
wasn't
aware
of,
but
I
really
like
the
idea
of
it
being
proactive,
also
and
having
you
know
a
recognizable
van.
Perhaps
that
drives
around
and
people
recognize
and
it's
it's
a
friendly
service
that
people
can
take
advantage
of
prior
to
actually
needing
assistance
or
being
in
crisis.
L
D
I
can
start
on
this
one
I
think
I
mean.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
this,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
we're
really
just
learning
how
to
do
this
in
a
way
that's
trauma-informed
that
is
taking
taking
into
account
what
people
are
comfortable
with.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
don't
want
to
come
to
a
meeting
every
week
and
and
be
able
to
be
there
but
they're
willing
to
meet
with
you.
D
If
you
come
to
them-
and
you
mentioned
earlier
meeting
people
where
they're
at
I
think
it's
about
meeting
people
where
they're
at
you
know
emotionally,
but
also
meeting
them,
where
they're
at
physically
about
going
to
them
and
saying
hey.
What
are
the
things
that
you
like
about
this?
What
are
the
things
that
you
need?
D
D
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
have
not
been
able
to
participate
in
community
engagement
before
because
just
because
they
haven't
been
able
to
afford
child
care
or
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
transportation
or
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
away
from
the
three
jobs
that
they're
working
or
also
they
haven't
felt
comfortable
in
the
space,
so
understanding
that
some
spaces
are
really
created
for
privileged
white
people
and
have
not
taken
into
account
what
is
going
to
make
people
feel
like
they
can
really
express
themselves
and
express
what
they
want.
D
So
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
thinking
about,
but
it's
it's
very
much
a
conversation
of
asking
the
community.
How
can
we
do
this
better
and
really
taking
their
lead
on
this.
I
Yeah,
I
just
chime
in
that
you
know
joellen's
right
on
point.
What
jim
weathers
always
says
is
you
go
to
the
people
and
they
will?
They
will
tell
you
exactly
what
they
need.
That's
so
true,
I
mean
in
the
engagements
that
we
have
with
people
on
the
street.
You
know
this
isn't
a
very
mystifying
process.
I
If,
if
any
one
of
us
were
to
go,
we
don't
have
to
be
a
professional
in
this
space
and
just
ask
someone
within
several
minutes
of
that
conversation,
they
would
be
able
to
identify
what
they
themselves
think
that
they
need
and
that's
the
most
important
thing.
So
the
question
is:
how
can
we
systematically
do
that
right?
I
How
can
we
actually
create
some
mechanism
within
the
policy
and
programmatic
elements,
of
all
of
the
the
pilots
that
you're
mentioning
councilwoman
and
just
how
do
we
actually
inform
policy
and
programming,
and
I
think
something
that
we've
seen
elsewhere,
that
maybe
we
haven't
had
as
much
traction
on,
although
I
know
that
the
yab,
which
is
something
that
they've
really
really
done
a
good
job
at
dhs
with
which
is
bringing
together,
homeless,
youth
and
asking
them?
What
do
you
think
about
this
stuff?
What
do
you
think
about
the
programming?
I
What
is
your
experience
been
and
seeing
how
how
that
can
provide
really
substantive
input
into
the
programming
for
youth
who
are
experiencing
homelessness?
I
think,
in
the
same
way,
we
need
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
create
community
advisory
boards
that
can
bring
people
in
and
we
don't
tokenize
people,
because
oftentimes
there
will
be
a
board
and
they'll
say:
we've
reserved
one
seat
for
a
person
who
has
lived
experience
or
is
experiencing
homelessness.
Currently
man,
that
is
the
worst
model
possible,
because
that
person
is
under
such
duress.
I
In
trying
to
answer
questions,
I
mean
to
joellen's
point:
this
is
not
a
space,
that's
been
designed
for
them,
it's
incredibly,
you
know
overwhelming
for
them
and-
and
they
don't
even
feel
like
they
can
be
truly
honest,
because
typically,
the
truths
that
they
have
to
say
are
direct
indictments
of
everything
that
everyone
in
that
room
believes
to
be
true.
So
how
do
we
create
a
separate
space
for
people
that
isn't
tokenizing
and
that,
as
joanne
said,
also
compensates
people
adequately
for
this
stuff?
Because
at
that
point
they
are
consultants
and
they
should
be.
G
Just
just
to
I
mean
you
know
it's
it
you,
everyone
on.
This
call
also
knows
that
there's
nobody
on
this
call,
who
you
know,
reflects
the
people
experiencing
these
systems
right
and
I'm
not
I'm
certainly
not.
Judging
the
organizers
of
this
call.
We
are
often
as
guilty
of
that
as
as
anyone.
G
So
I
just
I
think,
also
in
your
work,
which
you
guys,
I
I
think
want
to
do
too
just
acknowledging
going
to
the
source
of
information
it
does
you
know
we
are.
We
have
information
to
provide,
but
the
the
people
experiencing
it
would
would
have
more
to
share
with
you.
We
are
you
know
we
are,
we
aren't
perfect
and
that's
where
you
know
we
strive
to
hire
a
lot
more
people
with
lived
experience
in
the
system.
We
have.
You
know,
for
example,
a
whole
group,
a
group
of
youth
support
partners.
G
There
are
sis,
there
are
systems
and
people,
they
may
not
reflect
all
of
the
communities
and
that's
something
we
have
to
work
on,
but
places
and
people
like
the
allegheny
family
network
and
other
peer
support.
Networks
have
been
built
to
support
peers
and
community
and
people
with
lived
experience
again.
They
need
to
also
be
improved
to
make
sure
they're
reflecting
the
whole
community.
G
Some
people
are
not
going
to
come
to
your
table.
They're
not
going
to
come
to
our
table.
They're
activists
advocates
in
this
work.
They
have
a
critical
role
to
play,
though
in
providing
information,
and
so
I
think
you
know,
at
least
for
me
when
they,
when
activists
come
together
and
provide
findings
and
feedback,
even
if
they
won't
and
can't
for
lots
of
good
safety
reasons
come
to
our
tables.
G
We
we
do,
I
think,
want
to
listen
to
what
they're
saying
to
us
there
too,
so
just
to
just
to
add
a
little
bit.
L
L
You
don't
need
to
turn
your
camera
on,
but
when
I
was
a
chief
of
staff
to
my
predecessor
on
council,
he
did
a
great
job
planning,
a
a
council
and
I
think
state,
prep
and
state
senator
staff
tutorial
session,
or
you
know,
information
session
on
dhs
and
how
staff
can
utilize
the
tools
that
that
you
have
and
all
of
your
resources
as
we
work
closely
with
constituents
and
people
experiencing
different
challenges.
L
And
you
know,
given
that
there
are
new
staff
on
council
and
probably
new
challenges
that
we're
all
thinking
about
and
facing
just
wanted
to
maybe
put
that
bug
in
the
ear
and
see
if
we
can
help
to
bring
that
together
again,
because
I
found
it
tremendously
useful
as
a
staffer,
and
maybe
we
can
organize
that
again.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilwoman.
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
you
were
talking
about
in
the
letter
to
a
lot
of
us
sort
of
connects
with
all
these
things,
which
I
think
is
great,
especially
leading
into
the
budget,
and
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
couple
months
now.
So
I
think
it's
good
to
hear
this
at
the
right
time
right
before
we
get
started
I'll,
pass
it
off
to
councilman
coghill.
B
M
Okay,
I'll
be
brief.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
councilman
o'connor,
for
arranging
this
post
agenda.
I'm
sorry!
I
came
in
late
because
you
know
I
did
listen
in
on
the
last
hour
and
15
minutes.
I
think-
and
it's
been
very
informative
for
me.
So
with
all
the
you
know,
challenges
that
we're
going
to
have
in
the
future
and
the
conversations
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about
policing
and
what
it
looks
like
you
know.
M
M
You
know
we
talk
about
social
services
and
how
they're
going
to
come
in
and
they're
going
to
take
responsibilities
off
of
the
police,
which
is
a
grand
idea
and
would
be
great
if
we
can
do
it
that
way,
but
I've
yet
to
see
anything.
That's
the
first
time,
I've
ever
seen
anything
which
reflects
a
plan
to
me
and
you
know
for
what
it's
worth.
It's
you're
the
first
for
me.
M
So
so
it's
it's
nice
to
actually
see
something
you
know
tangible
and
but
saying
that
though
I
I
guess
I
and
I
may
have
missed
this,
so
I
apologize
if
I
did,
but
so
we're
talking
really
about
a
plan,
a
team
of
18
people,
or
so
you
know-
and
I
I
love
the
way
you
say
a
nighttime
shift
on
there
because
yeah,
I
think,
that's
vital
for
outreach.
M
K
I
know
we've
we've
been
through
some
of
these
interesting
community
engagement
processes
before
so
it's
nice
to
be
talking
to
you
about
this
one
as
well.
I
think
that's
the
right
question
and
I
know
council
member
wilson
alluded
to
the
same
thing.
K
I
think
you
know
we
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
extraordinarily
difficult
budget
season
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
and
I
think
you
know
I'm
I'm
sorry
that
chief
powell
is
not
joining
me
today,
because
I
think
chief
powell
has
a
probably
the
most
clear
understanding
of
sort
of
how
we're
going
to
navigate
this
budget
going
forward.
I
do
believe
that
there
are
some
plans
on
the
ahn
side
to
look
at
what
what
is
reimbursable
and
what
is
possible.
K
I
think
that
we
will
probably
in
you
know
I
say
we,
but
it's
really-
the
leadership
coming
from
council
in
the
mayor's
office
looking
at
the
budget
over
the
next
year
and
trying
to
understand
whether
this
is
a
way
that
we
remove
some
or
alleviate
some
of
the
responsibilities
that
police
feel
to
the
degree
that
they
might
almost
feel
that
this
is
like
a
subcontracted
effort
right.
K
You
know,
if
I
mean
I,
you
know,
I'm
gonna
try
to
give
an
analogy
about
building
right,
because
I
know
that
you're
a
you're,
a
person
that
that
understands
that.
So
forgive
me
if
this
is
a
little
off,
but
your
you
may
be
contracted
to
do
the
roof.
You
know
subcontracted
to
do
the
roof,
because
that's
what
you
do
well
and
and
the
builders
willing
to
pay
you
to
do
that,
because
they
would
rather
see
it
done
excellently,
and
I
think
similarly,
you
know
the
police
would
rather
see
this
dot
work
done
excellently.
K
It's
like
seeing
someone
on
train
tracks
and
watching
a
train
come
increasingly
closer
to
them
and
not
being
able
to
remove
them
and
eventually
just
having
to
contend
with
the
reality
of
what's
going
to
happen,
and
I
think
we
see
you
know
our
first
responders
in
the
same
position
and
that's
what's
really
incredible
about
gvi
is
that
you
know
reverend
jones
and
his
teams
are
trying
to
go
in
and
prevent
the
next.
K
You
know
really
tragic
situation
and
support
people
and
in
removing
them
from
those
kind
of
situations
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
something
that
aaron's
worked
on
for
a
great
part
of
her
career
as
well
is
what
are
the
upstream
interventions,
and
I
think
police
see
that
as
any
of
us
sees
that
as
part
of
that,
so
you
know
I.
I
know
that
doesn't
give
a
concrete
number
here,
but
yeah.
M
Well,
let
me
tell
you
laura:
that
is
right
on
along
the
line.
I
was
thinking
I
mean
if
we
can
actually
justify.
If
we
can
say
well,
the
police
department
is
no
longer
doing
this
and
their
hours
are
very
expensive.
You
know
if
they
have
two
or
three
officers
that
have
seen
that
they
don't
need
to
be
now.
M
I
don't
think
we
could
actually
take
that
in
the
broad
sense
like
where
we
could
exchange
dollar
for
dollar,
but
I
think
what
it
will
mean
is
that
our
police
officers
are
being
better
used
at
things
they're
better
equipped
to
do,
and
hopefully
we
get
the
right
people
and
they're
doing
the
things.
Does
it
mean
that
they're
gonna
we're
gonna
be
able
to
take
that
chunk
out
of
the
police
department
and
give
it
this?
M
I
don't
think
so,
but
if
we
can
say
in
the
end
that
the
police
department
is
much
more
efficient
but
because
they're
not
responding
to
things
now
what
that
looks,
like
that's
another
complicated
issue,
I
feel
you
know
I'll.
Just
give
you
a.
For
instance,
there
was
a
woman
on
my
street,
some
whoever
made
the
call
she
had
a
kitchen
knife
in
her
hand
and
she
was
threatening
the
swat
team
was
there.
I
can't
tell
you
what
we
had
in
experiences
over
a
12-hour
period
when
I
felt
like
this
is
a
situation.
M
A
social
worker
probably
could
have
come
in
been
more
effective
without
the
sounds
without
the
lights
and
you
know,
the
person
would
have
been
better
off.
First
of
all,
it
was
mental
illness,
of
course-
and
you
know
so,
but
it
gets
really
tricky
there.
You
know
when
you
send
somebody,
especially
a
social
worker.
How
much
are
they
going
to
charge
us
to
go
into
a
situation
that
they're
unsure
about
so
they're
all
questions
to
be
answered,
and
I
won't
go
on
much
about
that,
and
but
but
really
it's
the
nail
in
the
head.
M
You
know
we
have
to
kind
of
justify
spending
for
this,
and
hopefully
it
puts
our
police
in
a
better
position
and
daniel.
I
love
the
way
you
talked
about.
Each
neighborhood
is
different.
You
know
in
my
neighborhoods
I'll
say
I
don't
have
a
big
homeless
problem
and
I
love
the
work
you
do
in
that
community
and-
and
I
think
it's
good
work
all
way
around.
I'm
fortunate,
I
don't
have
a
huge
problem.
I
do
have
it,
but
not
I
don't
think
near
the
numbers.
M
Some
other
districts
do
so,
but
I
guess
moving
forward.
I'm
thinking
hey,
how
are
we
going
to
help
the
police
department
and
what
we're
going
to
have
to
decide
is
a
new
form
of
policing
and
how
we're
going
to
budget
it.
But
but
thanks
again
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
everybody,
but
little
time
I
had
here
was
very
informative.
I'm
glad
I
chimed
in
and
cory
I'll
call
you
later
all
right.
B
All
right
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
joining.
I
think
this
is
very
informative.
As
I
mentioned,
a
lot
of
things
you
guys
are
talking
about
a
lot
of
things
that
we
are
all
talking
about
is
to
help
you
know
not
only
our
residents
but
our
public
safety
as
well
as
community
policing
moving
forward.
I
think
it's
very
important
mental
health
homelessness,
everything
that
you
touched
upon.
B
So
I
want
to
thank
my
council
colleagues
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
guests
and
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting
but
again
thank
you
and
if
you
have
a
slide,
please
email
it
to
myself
or
my
staff,
so
we
can
get
it
to
all
council
members.
So
thank
you
very.