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A
A
B
We
are
doing
with
me
today
by
council
president
Teresa's
Kel
Smith,
a
councilman
erica,
Strassburger,
Cosman,
Bobby,
Wilson
and
counts.
Men
are
Daniel
lavell
good
to
have
all
of
you
with
me
today,
and
so
there's
always
what
we're
going
to
ask
that
our
clerk
would
read
and
a
number
and
title
of
the
legislation
bill.
C
447
ordinance
direct
in
the
Allegheny
County
Board
of
Elections
took
place
before
the
qualified
voters.
Voters
of
the
city
at
the
2020
November
general
election,
a
referendum
question
shall
the
Pittsburgh
Home
Rule
Charter
article
2
exam
to
be
amended
and
supplemented
by
a
minivan
language
and
adding
new
language
to
section
229
and
230
to
expand
the
powers
of
the
independent
citizen,
Police
Review
Board,
to
allow
the
board
to
carry
out
its
original
mandate
to
investigate
police
misconduct
and
improve
police-community
relations.
B
D
After
the
June
Birds
I'm,
sorry
after
the
June
first
incidents
of
us
new
generation
of
young
activists
in
Pittsburgh
ask
the
question:
who
is
custodiet
Ipsos
custodes,
who
watches
the
watch
many
people,
my
age
did
not
know
that
we
had
independent
civilian
review
board
in
the
city.
June
was
the
first
time
we
learned
about
it
and
I
myself
had
to
go
back
and
study
at
the
the
massive
referendum
that
took
place
to
get
it
after
the
murder,
Johnny
damaged
and
I'm.
D
D
Remember:
I,
read
that
a
Tanya
Kane
who
would
succeed
him
debated
the
need
for
a
CPR,
be
at
all
saying
that
if
it's
not
doing
its
job,
then
we
don't
need
it
and
Jiwon
with
the
endorsements
of
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police,
who,
incidentally,
but
I,
think
what
Salih
said
in
response
to
that
was
very
telling
because
they,
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police
litigated
against
that
petition,
because
I
believe
they
were
afraid
of
it
and
I.
Think
we,
although
we
do
not,
we
do
not
want
to
have
an
antagonistic
with
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police.
D
D
Unfettered
access
to
police
data,
including
body
cam,
footage
the
power
to
bestow
potential
penalties
if
recommendations
are
not
implemented,
an
effective,
up-to-date
and
easy
to
understand
web
presence
that
makes
their
findings
accessible
for
general,
but
especially
an
independent
prosecutor
for
dealing
with
cases,
I
believe
if
Antoine
Rose
was,
after
after
his
murder,
I
believe
that
we
would
have
seen
the
justice
that
the
killer
deserved.
If
we
had
an
independent
DA
in
the
investigation
and
not
the
Pala,
we
need
more
power
and
I
don't
think
this
bill
goes
far
enough.
B
B
E
Wonderful,
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
amendment
to
the
Home
Rule
Charter
I'm,
going
to
read
my
comments
so
I'm.
Sorry,
if
it
sounds
a
little
stilted
here
for
decades,
police
departments
have
maintained
that
police
must
police
themselves.
Their
jobs
are
so
exceptional.
We've
been
told
that
they
can't
be
accountable
to
outside
organizations
or
to
the
public,
but
as
the
protest
sweeping
this
country
illustrate,
the
police
have
failed
and
failed
utterly
to
police
themselves.
E
In
fact,
in
many
of
us,
the
police
have
come
to
see
seem
more
lawless,
out-of-control
and
dangerous
than
most
of
the
people
they
arrest.
It
is
well
past
time
to
listen
to
the
members
of
the
african-american
community
of
Pittsburgh,
who
have
experienced
police
abuses
firsthand
for
far
too
long
and
whose
demands
for
meaningful
police
oversight
have
fallen
on
deaf
ears.
Thus
far,
the
homerooms
home
home
old
Charter
has
ensured
that
our
civilian
police
Review
Board,
is
templates
and
has
no
real
power
to
curb
abusive
practices.
We
need
meaningful
police
accountability
and
transparency.
E
It
were
to
restore
trust
between
the
police
and
the
communities.
They're
meant
to
serve
and
protect.
So
please
vote
for
this
amendment
to
the
home
old
charter
to
expand
the
power
of
the
civilian
police,
Review
Board
and
finally
provide
true
public
oversight
to
the
Pittsburgh
Police.
Thank
you
so
much.
E
F
Precincts
and
I
believe
that
if
you're
going
to
have
an
organization
meant
to
keep
us
safe
from
the
police,
they
should
have
the
powers
needed
to
make
sure
that
people
are
not
going
to
joining
the
police
with
the
express
purpose
of
terrorizing
the
community
cement
to
respect
to
protect
as
the
city
or
tree
of
life
happens
where
we
we
are
not
strangers
to
white
supremacists
terror.
I
think
that
it
is
a
grievous
that
we
don't
have
a
board
capable
of
finding
people
who
have
joined
our
police
with
the
express
purpose
of
terrorizing
communities.
F
F
The
CPR
be
the
the
the
people
of
swift
before
may
have
said
it
all,
but
unfettered
access
to
police
data
of
all
kinds,
independent
prosecution,
employee
and
funding
to
conduct,
data-driven,
monitoring,
monitoring
of
the
ppb
recognizing
patterns
of
misconduct
under
a
particular
commander
and
to
keep
track
of
officers
social
media
posts
I.
If
they
don't
have
those
powers,
how
are
they
keeping
it
safe
that
that's
it.
G
You,
my
name
is
Anna
Fischer
I'm,
a
United
States
citizen,
despite
my
accent,
I'm
also
a
resident
of
the
Allegheny
County
I
live
in
Pittsburgh.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
about
this.
I
would
like
to
just
have
a
brief
comment
about
my
support
of
the
referendum
question
about
amending
Pittsburgh
Home
Rule
Charter
to
expand
the
powers
of
the
independent
Citizen
Police
Review
Board
according
to
Quinn
cousins,
an
attorney
at
the
abolitionist
Law
Center
who
researched
citizen,
Police,
Review
Board
in
2015.
G
The
board's
inability
to
enforce
its
disciplinary
recommendations
makes
its
largely
ineffective
and
number
two
police
unions
push
back
against
the
citizen.
Police
Review
Board
led
the
board
to
start
issuing
softer
recommendations.
This
state
of
affairs
is
untenable,
I'm
sure,
you're.
All
aware
that
there
is
nice
nationwide
attention
to
excessive
use
of
force
by
law
enforcement
in
all
of
our
communities,
but
particularly
in
black
communities
locally.
G
We
witnessed
excessive
use
of
force
by
law
enforcement
just
a
few
weeks
ago
against
peaceful
protesters
in
this
Liberty
on
June
1st
citizens
of
Allegheny
County
should
be
able
to
voice
their
opinion
on
whether
we
want
stronger
protections
against
police
misconduct.
I
would
like
for
this
question
to
be
added
to
the
referendum
so
that
they
can
have
direct
input
into
this
matter.
Police
misconduct
is
my
one
of
my
top
concerns
at
the
moment,
and
I
would
value
an
opportunity
to
cast
a
vote
for
strengthening
the
powers
of
the
independent
Citizen
Police
Review
Board.
B
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Mary
young
and
I
am
a
city
of
Pittsburgh
residents,
I,
fully
support
the
CPR,
be
especially
its
independence
and,
with
proposal
to
me
actually
has
the
potential
to
limit
the
board.
Success
not
enhance
it,
and
for
this
reason,
I'm
opposed
to
this
proposal
to
amend
the
Home
Rule
Charter
and
I
would
like
to
highlight
the
reason
for
my
opposition.
H
First
I
believe
this
proposal
actually
limits
the
independence
and
discretion
of
the
board
and
does
not
expand
its
capacity.
Second
I
believe
this
proposal
changes
the
purpose
of
public
hearings
from
fact-finding
to
nothing
but
public
information
sessions.
Third,
the
board
already
compels
officers
to
participate
and
testify
at
fact-finding
hearings.
The
courts
have
enforced
the
subpoena
power
which,
by
the
way,
I
might
add,
had
to
be
fought
for
in
the
courts
in
the
first
place.
H
I'm
first
opening
the
Home
Rule
Charter
in
this
manner,
we'll
take
the
power
from
the
people
who
work
tirelessly
to
create
this
board
23
years
ago
and
gives
it
to
City
Council
in
the
mayor's
office.
Okay,
I
have
a
problem
with
this
proposal
being
placed
on
the
referendum
in
November
by
bypassing
the
traditional
method
of
collecting
electors
signatures.
H
I
believe
this
City
Council
and
previous
ones
included,
and
the
mayor's
office
have
obstructed
the
work
of
the
CPR
bee
and
I
wish
they
would
stop
and
start
cooperating
with
the
CPR,
be
while
I
believe
the
intention
may
be
Noble
I
feel
the
method
proposed
would
not
be.
It
would
be
detrimental.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
B
I
I
That's
been
injure
back
in
2010
after
the
Jordan
miles
incident,
which
ended
up
in
legislation
I
think
we
ended
the
legislation
was
it
2013.
We
had
four
pieces
of
legislation
for
progressive
police
doesn't
say
he's
been
wonderful
honor
you
for
that.
I
just
wanted
to
share
a
concern
and
asking,
if
you,
as
the
initiator
of
this
and
council
in
general,
want
to
thank
Council
for
their
work.
Ongoing
Lee
I
have
a
concern
that
I
want
you
to
think
about
sometimes
language.
I
It's
just
like
when,
when
you
hear
the
term
defunding,
the
police
I
have
a
very,
very
strong
reaction
to
that
and
I've
told
people
that
I
say
we
call
it
six
or
seven
different
things.
We
don't
call
it
defunding
the
police,
but
certain
things
are
catchy
for
people
versus
reform.
We
imagine
whatever.
In
this
case
language
sounds
good,
but
I'm
concerned
that
maybe
the
result
might
be
negative.
I
I
And
also
it
may
impose
new
requirements
on
the
chief,
so
in
the
controller
I'm
concerned,
about
the
possibility
of
infringing
on
the
powers
of
the
board
versus
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
I
know
that
often,
when
you
hear
benefit,
enger'
speak
about
the
board.
The
first
thing
she
says
in
a
public
meeting
is
the
independent
citizen,
Police
Review,
Board
I.
I
Think
it's
extremely
important
that
we
do
in
the
midst
of
all
this
going
on
on
the
streets
and
cross
the
nation
that
we
do
everything
possible
to
strengthen
the
board
from
my
request
is
that
if
all
of
you
would
get
with
Miss
Pittenger
and
her
staff
and
their
board
and
make
sure
you're
not
doing
something
that
actually
does
the
opposite
of
what
you
want
and
I
would
depend
primarily
on
the
opinion
and
wisdom
of
that
Pittenger.
Her
staff
and
the
board,
who
is
volunteering.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
the
only
mr.
speaker
that
I
had
that
has
not
spoken
and
was
not
on
the
line
was
making
colic.
Are
you
here
now
maked
Megan
Khalid,
seeing
no
Megan
colleague
I
will
now
entertain
conversations
from
members
and
I
will
do
it
in.
If
you
do
not
mind
I'll,
do
it's
just
easier
for
me
to
do
it
in
the
order
in
which
I
see
you
and
what
I
see
I
see
in
this
order,
I'm
in
Strasbourg
er,
president
Smith
mr.
Wilson,
mr.
Laval
and
finally
mr.
konkey.
B
J
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
work
in
preparing
this
legislation
is
resolution
and
the
work
that
the
behind
the
scenes
work
that
went
into
this
I
also
want
to.
Thank
compel
the
commander's
for
taking
their
time
out
of
a
an
afternoon
and
evening
to
prepare
comments
and
to
make
your
voice
heard
on
this.
I
I
really
only
have
I
have
a
question.
I
guess,
and
that
is
we
hear.
J
We
often
hear
that
the
that
any
kind
of
citizens
review
board
of
the
police
not
just
to
Pittsburgh
but
anywhere,
would
be
stronger
if
it
had
subpoena
power
and
I.
Wonder
if
you
remember
just
can
speak
to
your
work
and
in
investigating
that
issue
and
whether,
if
you
could
maybe
walk
me
through
and
walk
the
rest
of
us
through
how
you
determine
the
language
that
you
that
you
used
here
rather
than
any
other
kind
of
language
that
you
could
have
used.
So
your
subpoena
powers,
one
potential
for
providing
more
teeth.
B
K
Smell,
thank
you.
Thank
you
reverend,
for
convening
this
and
for
the
public
for
coming
out
to
speak
again
taking
time
in
the
evening
to
do
so.
I
do
have
some
of
the
same
questions
that
I
think
Councilwoman
Strassburger
has
in
terms
of
the
subpoena
purposes
my
understanding
the
CPR
bee
has
subpoena
powers
currently
and
that
there's
some
things
that
they
already
do.
That's
in
this
legislation,
and
so
I
just
want
to
know
how
you
see
it
acting
differently,
but
I.
I
also
think
that
we
should
make
sure
that
we're
sitting
down
with
mr.
K
Pittenger,
because
she
has
been
doing
this
for
a
very
long
time
and
you
know
how
I
am
I
just
think.
We
should
just
bring
everyone
together
to
try
to
figure
it
out
and
that
I'm
confident
in
the
end.
That's
what
you're
gonna
end
up
doing,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
put
that
out
there
that
I
do
have
some
concerns
that
it's
not
arresting,
that
they
already
have
some
of
the
powers
that
are
within
this
legislation.
So
that's
it!
Okay,
because
I
know
you're
trying
to
find
results
for
the
residents.
L
Yes,
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
putting
forward
this
legislation
and
thanks
to
the
public
for
for
their
comments.
Now,
will
I've
been
reading
the
ones
that
come
by
email
as
well
that
are
gonna,
be
put
into
the
record
I
believe
and
you
know,
because
he
read
through
that
and
learn
more
about
this.
You
know.
L
I
was
very
intrigued
by
the
conversations
that
we've
already
had
with
with
with
Miss
pannier
in
recent
legislation
that
we
had
the
table
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
conversation
again,
because
the
more
that
we
can
involve,
you
know
the
more
that
I
can
have
more
conversations
at
the
table,
so
the
public
in
here
and
what
the
you
know,
what
the
current
status
of
the
CPR
B
is
and
and
how
they
operate
and
how
that
can
be
strength
and
I.
Think
we're
really
looking
I
think
we're
really
looking
for
you
know.
L
Our
n
resolve
is
the
best
community
relations
that
we
can
have
in
our
with
our
officers
in
the
public
and
I.
Think
that's
I
think
that's
most
important
for
me
and
really
understand
how
you
know
this
accountability
that
has
existed.
You
know
can
work
at
to
work
best
to
maintain
that
and
do
better.
So
thanks.
M
M
M
I've
told
you
from
the
beginning,
I
think
you're
your
leader
and
I'm
committed
to
working
with
you
and
Councilman
LaBelle
on
the
legislation's
you
have
put
forward,
including
this
one
and
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
you
can
count
on
me
to
be
supportive
and
one
other
question:
who's.
Robert,
LaValle
I've,
never
heard
of
this
guy.
B
So,
hopefully,
and
that
thing
joy,
Shawn
Carter,
is
in
the
waiting
room,
if
you
could
put
Shawn
through
Shawn,
is
the
my
assistant
and
the
writer,
the
actual
technical
writer
of
the
legislation
he'll
be
able
to
help
too,
if
you
could
put,
if
you
could
push
on
through
and
open
his
mic.
For
me,
that
would
be
helpful.
So
let
me
talk.
Let
me
talk
to
you
general
generally,
how
we
came
up
with
this
process
and
share
with
you
what
our
process
is,
so
we
had
first
of
all
a
couple
things.
B
Let
me
let
me
explore
it
a
couple
things
that
were
said
in
public
comment.
Then
I'll
answer
Erika's
questions
directly:
the
system,
Review
Board
the
reason
that
it
was
not
created
by
council
from
the
beginning
was
the
council.
Wouldn't
do
it
the
reason
that
the
council
people
of
that
time,
acid
all
assaulted,
who
Dean
they
had
to
collect
the
signatures,
is
because
the
council
at
that
time
would
not
pass
legislation
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
B
We
don't
talk
so
much
about
how
our
council
has
changed,
but
up
until
by
district
elections,
this
council
was
very
hostile
to
issues
concerning
african-americans.
In
fact,
it
was
against
my
district
elections.
I
did
everything
he
could
to
stop
african-american
patient
and
expanded
african-american
participation
in
city
government,
and
so
that's
the
wrong
we've
done
this
before
when
we
did
the
residency
requirement,
I
think
it
passed,
something
like
60,
70
percent
back
in
the
day.
B
So
this
is
a
power
council
has
to
put
things
by
referendum
to
change
the
Chitty
Cities,
a
charter,
it's
just
that
we
don't
use
it
very
often
and
that
initially
we
did
not.
Second
of
all
they,
the
this,
isn't
the
police
abit
citizen
review
board
is
an
instrumentality
of
the
city,
even
though
it's
somewhat
separate,
it
is
still
an
instrumentality
of
the
city.
That's
why
it
has
subpoena
powers.
Its
powers
is
because
it
is
an
instrumentality
of
the
city.
It
was
a
completely
independent
organization.
B
It
would
not
have
access
to
OMB
or
to
any
of
the
powers
that
the
city
has.
It
has
to
be
part
of
the
city
in
order
to
function
all
right.
So
that's
overall
now
I'll
give
you
the
overall
big
picture
and
then
I'll.
Let
Shawn
give
you
the
details
overall,
when
we
start
thinking
about
doing
this
and
talking
to
somebody
legal
experts.
That
was
our
first
sort
of
conversation.
After
that
we
went
to
Beth
and
began
to
talk
about
her
frustrations
of
what
she
could
see.
B
We
actually
tried
to
do
this
early
a
few
years
before
we
had.
We
actually
tried
to
do
something
very
similar
and
at
the
time
wasn't
right
time
we
think
is
right
now,
so
we
from
the
beginning
got
sort
of
her
view
of
what
this
could
look
like
and
then
we,
with
help
of
some
law,
some
legal
help
and
with
Shawn's,
capable
hands.
We
crafted
this.
Then
the
next
thing
we
did
was
give
it
to
both
the
CPR
bee
and
the
administration
for
their
kind
of
concerns.
B
We've
been
meeting
with
met
twice
with
our
Public
Safety
Director
and
with
the
chief
police
and
with
the
law
department,
and
so
the
next
thing
we
hope
to
do
is
get
written
feedback
from
both
the
CPR,
be
the
police
and
the
law
department
and
then
craft.
A
compromise
similar
to
what
we
done
in
the
past
and
mr.
B
LaBelle,
a
compromise
that
all
can
agree
with
and
so
I
hope
to
present
to
Council
soon
a
compromise
piece
of
legislation
that
all
three
parties-
the
administration,
the
administration,
the
police,
the
CPR
bee
and
Council
as
a
whole,
can
support.
So
it
is
my
intention
to
all
work
together,
as
the
president
has
directed
me.
I
am
actually
doing
that
process.
A
very,
very
deliberately,
we've
been
very
deliberate
and
how
we've
done
this,
and
so
the
last
piece
will
be
back
to
council.
B
So
when
I
bring
it
back
to
Council,
though,
or
their
final
touch,
you
have
the
final
say
so
I
will
make
sure
it
has
the
support
of
all
the
other
interested
parties,
and
so
that's
sort
of
my
old
big-picture
thinking.
Oh
sure,
I
can
answer
your
direct
questions
about
why
the
specific
pieces
are
in
there
Shawn.
N
Can
everybody
hear
me
yes,
for
the
sake
of
everybody
watching,
my
name
is
Shawn
Carter
I
am
special
assistant
to
Pittsburgh
City
Councilman
Reverend
Ricky
Burgess.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
It's
been
a
while,
since
we've
all
been
together
specifically
what
this
ordinance
initiating
referendum
to
amend
the
Home
Rule
Charter
does
it
does
not
change
the
authority
of
the
civilian
police,
Review
Board,
to
investigate
complaints
that
are
complaints
of
police
misconduct
that
are
filed
with
it.
What
it
does
do
is
give
a
special
emphasis
to
acts
of
police
misconduct
which
may
be
civil
rights
violations.
N
It
requires
the
controller
to
jointly
perform
performance
audits
of
the
Bureau
of
police
with
the
civilian
police,
Review
Board.
Now
the
city
controllers
office.
They
have
lots
of
analysts
and
auditors
and
they're
good
at
doing
the
performance
audits
of
government
units.
The
CPR
bee
has
subject
matter,
expertise
on
police
departments
and
their
policies
and
their
practices
and
their
procedures
and
joining
them
together,
as
opposed
to
requiring
the
Police
Review
Board.
To
do
it
separately
will
allow
each
to
benefit
from
the
expertise
of
the
other.
N
Currently,
the
CPR
bee
does
have
subpoena
power;
it
is
conferred
upon
them
on
behalf
of
the
city,
as
Reverend
Burgess
said,
if
they
weren't
a
part
of
city
government,
even
though
it's
not
under
the
standard
command
StruxureWare.
The
mayor
appoints
the
director
and
the
mayor
can
fire.
It
is
still
a
part
of
the
city
government,
almost
like
the
controller's
office.
N
This
also,
if
we
go
down
to
the
confidentiality,
is
to
require
that
confidential
information
be
handled
confidentially
by
the
board.
The
board
can
handle
some
of
its
investigations
in
executive
session
because
that's
legal
under
the
Sunshine
Act,
and
that
will
make
it
easier
to
begin
getting
these
getting
police
officers
to
give
statements
confidentially,
because
under
the
law
their
disciplinary
records
are
private
records.
They
cannot
be
publicly
disclosed.
N
You
know
there's
a
Supreme
Court
case
called
Garrity,
which
requires
that
a
public
employer,
if
they
compel
a
statement
from
a
police
officer,
cannot
allow
for
that
statement
to
be
used
against
them
in
a
criminal
proceeding
and
so
there's
a
necessity.
If
we
truly
want
the
cpr
be
to
be
able
to
do
complete
and
full
investigations
and
actually
get
the
police
officer
statements,
we
have
to
uphold
their
constitutional
rights.
N
We're
trying
to
correct
some
of
the
things
that
were
missing
from
the
1997
amendment
and
the
reason
councilman
Burgess
opted
to
use
an
ordinance
to
initiate
the
referendum
as
opposed
to
going
to
collect
the
signatures
is
when
you
circulate
a
petition
for
a
referendum
and
get
signatures.
The
version
of
the
referendum
has
to
be
the
version,
the
ghosts
of
the
voters
when
you
start
collecting
signatures.
If
you
need
12,000
signatures
to
qualify
for
the
ballot,
you
can't
collect.
N
So
this
process
allowed
for
a
lot
more
cooperation
and
participation
from
the
Public
Safety
Bureau
from
the
public
from
the
council
from
the
CPR,
be
the
administration
and
other
parties
because
disallow
for
any
necessary
amendments
that
needed
to
be
made
to
be
made
before
final
passage,
so
that
what
passes
finally
there's
an
requiring
amendments
and
is
not
legally
unsound
and
yes,
there
are.
There
are
provisions
in
the
amendment
that
required
the
CPR
be
to
keep
confidential
information
confidential,
and
if
a
staff
person
of
the
board
violates
that
they
could
be
fired.
N
G
M
B
J
J
B
J
That
said,
though,
I
guess,
if
you
can
speak
to
it,
sounds
as
if
you're
working
both
to
try
to
satisfy
a
lot
of
different
parties
here,
but
also
make
as
much
impact
and
give
as
much
power
to
the
CPR
be
as
possible,
and
you
you
definitively
that
this
is
basically
as
much
power
as
we
can
give.
As
you
can
be.
B
I'm,
sorry,
let
me
go
one
step
further.
Not
only
does
the
recommendation
go
to
the
mayor
and
the
chief,
but
they
some
decisions
were
being
made
without
them
ever
seeing
the
recommendations
from
the
CPR
be
that
they
were
actually
only
would
make
their
determination.
It
would
go
to
the
chief
and
the
mayor
and
they
would
make
determinations
before
even
seeing
the
recommendations
from
the
CPP.
That's
really
what
I!
B
That's
really
in
essence,
where
I'm
trying
to
correct
I'm
trying
to
make
it
a
process
where,
at
the
very
minimum
that
police
chief
and
the
mayor
have
the
results
of
the
CPR
be
in
hand
when
they
make
their
decision,
especially
that
they
make
a
decisions
to
exonerate
an
officer
right.
If
there's
a
problem
with
discipline,
they
must
do
it
quickly.
We
understand
that,
but
it's
in
the
exoneration
of
an
officer
that
we
want
to
make
sure
they
have
the
full
weight
of
the
CPR
bees
determination
prior
to
making
the
exoneration
that
make
some
sense.
J
J
It
does
make
sense,
and
that
leads
me
to
sort
of
a
different
Bank
uestion
of
if
there
is
a
we
know
of
cases
where
there
is
the
public
demanding
action,
accountability
and
the
mayor
and
the
police
chief
are
under
immense
pressure
to
make
a
decision.
It's
disciplinary
nature
quickly.
This
would
not
prevent
them
from
doing
that.
You're
saying
this
would
only
be
in
the
case
of
exoneration
that
they
would
need
to
have
the
city's
recommendation
to.
B
Answer
so
give
you
the
more
definitive
answer,
but
they
remember.
We
are
working
with
the
Public
Safety
Director
at
the
Chief
of
Police,
the
law
department
we've
had
negotiating.
So
what
you
have
is
not
the
final
form,
but
absolutely
one
of
our
conversations
was
to
make
sure
explicitly
that
the
police,
chief
and
Mayor
have
the
authority
to
remove
an
officer
if
necessary.
So
that
was
a
met.
That's
a
matter
of
concern
from
all
of
us.
B
N
There
are
some
acts
of
police
misconduct
which
are
so
glaringly
obvious
on
their
face
and
I
can't
point
to
one
in
Pittsburgh
offhand,
but
we
can
look
at
what
happened
in
Minneapolis
with
George
Floyd
or
what
happened
with
Brianna,
Taylor
and
Louisville
Kentucky,
and
the
the
the
the
circumstances
were
so
obvious.
The
evidence
was
so
overwhelming.
It
was
so
uncontroverted
ball
that
there's
basically
no
public
policy
reason
to
wait
to
take
disciplinary
action
and
Reverend
Burgess
is
committed
to
not
restricting
disciplinary
action
from
occurring
in
those
instances
where
it
must
occur.
J
B
You
any
other
concerns
or
questions
if
no
other
concerns
or
questions.
Let
me
assure
the
public
that
we're
working
at
Lightspeed
is
I'm
teaching
to
spend
this
next
week,
having
worked
out
a
final
compromise
piece
of
legislation
and
to
bring
that
back
for
Council
to
give
counsel
it's
time
to
digest,
it
view
it
and
make
any
final
recommendations.
Knowing
that
those
recommendations
we
did
have
to
go
back
to
the
law,
department
and
the
police,
because
in
my
in
my
view
this
is
a
three
legs:
a
three-legged
stool.