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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
city
council's
post
agenda
this
aft
this
morning
at
a
10
30.,
I'm
councilman,
o'connor
I'll,
be
chairing
on
this
post
agenda
with
us.
Today
we
have
council
members,
krauss
councilman
wilson.
I
see
councilman
strasberger,
I'm
sure
other
council
members
will
join
us.
This
afternoon's
post
agenda
is
on
it's
actually
a
follow-up
from
the
mayor's
task
force
on
police
reform,
and
we
had
this
about
a
month
ago.
We
got
some
answers
from
what
that
task
force
put
together.
A
What
they'd
like
to
see
our
police
force
look
like
down
the
road
in
the
future
and
their
biggest
take
away
from
that
was
the
implementation
of
their
recommendations
for
our
public
safety
as
well
as
our
police.
So
what
we
spoke
with
our
public
safety
director
and
and
chief
schumer
who's
here
with
us
today,
as
well
about
what
they've
already
implemented
and
what
they
plan
on
doing
in
the
you
know
upcoming
months
in
upcoming
years.
A
So
we
on
behalf
of
city
council,
wanted
to
bring
them
to
the
table
to
have
them
discuss
with
us
their
plans,
what
they
took
away
from
the
task
force
and
how
they
plan
to
enter
start
investing
and
what
the
task
force
had
recommended.
So
I
am
going
to
pass
this
meeting
off
now
to
director
historic
who's,
then
going
to
introduce
chief
schubert
and
then
we'll
have
council
questions
after
that.
So
director.
B
C
And
we
can
hear
yeah,
we
can
hear
him
pretty
good.
B
All
right
I
apologize
councilman,
but
on
behalf
of
public
safety
and
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police.
I
appreciate
and
thank
council
for
the
opportunity
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
in
response
to
the
reform
that
the
mayor's
task
force
provided
us
in
october.
B
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
you
know
it's
been
a
very
difficult
year
for
public
safety
and
for
the
police
officers
and
our
response
to
the
the
recommendations
have
been
somewhat
slow
due
to
the
covet
the
pandemic
virus.
I
mean
today,
we
alone
have
78
police
officers
off
and
18
that
are
infected
with
the
virus,
and
that
has
slowed
slowed.
Some
of
the
responses
to
some
of
the
issues
that
have
been
brought
forward
to
us.
As
we
discussed
in
the
previous
meeting,
it's
the
police
officers
on
the
street.
B
They
never
wanted
to
be
put
in
a
situation.
They
are
general
practitioners
similar
to
what
we
consider
in
the
medical
field.
They
are
not
subject
matter,
experts,
they
are
not
the
cardiologists
and
the
internists
and
the
neurosurgeons
I
mean
there
is.
They
are
put
daily
into
situations
that
they
are
confronted
with
issues
that
they
don't
have
the
answers.
They
are
not
the
experts,
however,
with
some
of
the
recommendations
and
some
of
the
insight
from
the
task
force
between
the
police,
bureau
and
public
safety.
We
are
trying
to
address
that.
B
She
is
currently
the
assistant
director
of
community
affairs
and
she's
been
working
not
only
with
the
community
services
and
violence
prevention
which
she
will
oversee
for
public
safety,
but
she
works
on
a
daily
basis
with
the
mayor's
community
health
and
safety
office.
So
she
will
be
able
to
address
any
any
questions
that
come
up
to
where
we
are
with
that.
However,
once
again,
a
lot
of
these
issues
cannot
be
addressed
overnight.
It's
going
to
take
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
B
However,
some
of
the
recommendations
within
the
report
have
already
been
addressed
and
were
addressed
prior
to
the
recommendations
even
coming
out.
So
chief
schubert
and
his
staff
will
go
into
those
recommendations
that
have
already
been
resolved
with
that
I'll
now
turn
it
over
to
the
police
chief,
scott
schubert
chief.
D
Thank
you
director
and
thank
you
council
for
allowing
us
to
be
in
front
of
you.
Unfortunately,
we're
still
in
the
the
code
phases,
so
we
can't
be
together
in
person,
but
we
we
appreciate
it
and
we
wish
all
of
you
a
happy
holiday
this
this
week.
Just
before
I
start
I
just
want
to
go
over
the
people
from
the
pbp
who
are
in
attendance
today.
We
have-
and
I'm
just
gonna
get
on
a
list
that
I
that
I
can
see.
D
But
I
see
chris
ragland
is
the
commander
in
charge
of
her
osar
officer's
strategy,
accountability
and
resiliency
he's
gonna,
be
speaking.
I
see
anna
kudrow
she's,
the
assistant
chief
of
operations.
D
I
see
eric
holmes,
he's
the
chief
of
staff
for
me
and
overseas
intelligence,
our
real-time
crime
center
and
all
of
our
analysts.
D
I
see
linda
rosada,
barone
she's,
the
assistant
chief
of
administration,
and
I
see
tiffany
sergeant,
tiffany
tiffany
costa,
who
works
directly
with
me
on
the
community
engagement
office,
does
a
fantastic
job
on
on
a
lot
of
things
and
if
I'm
missing
anyone
I
apologize
they
can.
They
can
announce
their
cells
during
the
meeting.
But
just
one
like
I
said
I
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity.
D
As
many
of
you
know,
I've
been
with
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
for
28
years.
I
love
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
I
love
being
a
pittsburgh
police
officer.
I
always
have.
This
is
the
only
thing
I've
ever
wanted
to
do
in
my
life
and
you
know
had
an
opportunity
over
the
last
28
years
to
see
our
department
go
through
a
lot.
D
A
lot
of
changes,
we're
always
evolving.
You
know
we
went
through
the
consent
decree.
We
went
through
the
creation
of
this
citizens
review
board.
We
went
through
many
tragedies.
D
We
are
right
now,
due
to
the
to
the
covid,
but
and
we've
had
some
incidents
where
we
had
people
that
weren't
the
best
models
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
or
our
profession,
and
you
know
through
that
all
the
vast
majority
of
us
love
being
cops,
love
being
working
with
the
community,
love
being
professionals-
and
you
know,
do
the
right
thing
and
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
pittsburgh
has
a
police
department
that
people
can
be
proud
of
and
know
that
we
care
about
them
and
that
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
work
with
them
to
keep
our
city
safe
and,
to,
as
I
said,
it's
it's
always
evolving,
always
trying
to
do
to
do
better.
D
When
I
took
over
as
the
the
chief
in
november
of
2016
as
the
acting
chief
and
then
in
february
of
2017,
you
know
becoming
the
chief
of
police
full
time.
You
know
I've
always
strived
to
ensure
that
we
project
ourselves
to
the
public
and
within
our
organization,
is
being
professional.
D
We
care
about
accountability,
we
care
about
transparency,
we
care
about
diversity
and
we
care
about
employee
wellness,
and
we
always
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
improve
upon
that
and
when
you
look
at
the
transparency,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
do
putting
information
out
and-
and
you
know
we'll
get
to
the
point
where
some
of
our
subject
matter.
Experts
can
tell
you
all
the
things
that
are
out
there.
D
D
You
know
the
training
that
we
provide
but
giving
us
every
opportunity
to
be
the
professionals
and
have
what
we
need
to
be
successful,
working
with
the
community
to
make
our
our
city
a
better
place
to
live,
work
and
visit
and
a
safer
place
so
I'm
committed.
D
I
appreciate
the
work
that
the
the
task
force
did
on
putting
this
together.
It's
something
that
we've
been
going
over
for
for
a
while,
since
we've
got
the
document,
we've
also
been
going
over
things
that
we've
received
from
from
bpep
working
with
them
and
others,
as
I
said,
we're
always
evolving.
We're
always
striving
to
to
do
better,
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
this.
You
have
a
fine
police
department.
D
Those
who
know
me
know
that
I'm
very
proactive
in
community
engagement,
I'm
always
out
in
the
field
to
to
even
walking
beats
in
the
various
communities.
My
goal
is
to
walk
all
90
communities
for
a
couple
hours
at
each
community.
D
I'm
a
third
of
the
way
there
you
know
and
I'm
going
to
keep
doing
it
and
when
I
get
to
the
90
it's
going
to
go
back
over
because
there's
parts
of
the
communities
that
you
can't
hit
in
those
two
hours.
D
But
it's
good
for
me
to
hear
from
the
residents
when
I'm
walking
around
to
hear
from
the
the
businesses
the
people
that
work
there
and-
and
you
know
and
hear
from
the
officers
on
the
street
when
I
run
into
them.
So
we
do
a
lot.
D
I
think
we
do
a
lot
that
people
don't
not
are
not
even
aware
of
so
we're
gonna
do
everything
we
can
to
to
promote
the
good
things
that
we
do
with
the
community
working
in
partnership
to
make
our
city
city
better.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chris
ragland.
If
and
if
somebody
could
just
raise
your
hand
or
say
yes,
but
did
you
receive
the
document
strengthened?
The
bridges
between
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
in
the
community
did
chief
of
staff
forward
that
to
you
all.
D
A
D
You
for
looking
out
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
yeah.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we'll
get
it
to
you
and
I'll.
Just
I'll
say
this
with
it.
It's
a
living
document,
we're
working
on
it
every
day
and
it's
sort
of
our
strategic
plan
of
of
how
we're
gonna
implement
this
and
really
to
give
people
a
better
overview
of
what
we're
doing
within
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police.
So
we
will
get
that
for
you.
D
D
A
D
Yep
I'll
I'll
forward
it
over
to
you
in
in
in
a
minute
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chris
ragland,
as
I
said,
he's
the
the
commander
in
charge
of
our
office
of
strategy,
accountability
and
resiliency,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
created
this
year
and
he
can
probably
kind
of
go
over
it
to
help
improve
our
organization
internally.
D
So
commander
ragland.
E
Thanks
chief,
can
everybody
hear
me
before
I
begin
all
right,
so
thank
you,
council
for
this
opportunity
to
you
know
kind
of
talk
about.
You
know
some
of
the
things
the
pittsburgh
bureau
police
has
done,
and
you
know
where
we
where
we
want
to
go
as
an
agency.
So
some
of
you
may
know
me
back
with
me
as
a
commander
of
the
north
side
zone,
one
station
back
in
august.
E
The
chief
you
know,
has
a
vision
and
wanted
to
better
our
department
and
increase
our
accountability
and
transparency,
and
you
know
he
created
the
the
office
of
strategy,
accountability
and
resiliency.
You
know
osar,
which
I
am
head
of,
and
so
some
of
you
may
ask
what
does
that
office
do?
E
And
so
I
I
would
say
that
you
know
we
were
responsible
for
researching
best
practices
and
policy
incubating
fostering
implementing
pvp
initiatives,
advancing
this
the
strategic
mission
of
the
chief
in
supporting
short,
mid
and
long
term
goals
and
we're
continuously
auditing,
pbp
protocols
and
procedures
to
promote
economy,
efficiency,
diversity
and
accountability
throughout
the
organization,
and
so
before
I
kind
of
get
into
some
of
the
things
that
you
know
are
kind
of
going
on.
E
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
you
know
hit
on
some
of
the
things
that
you
know
the
pittsburgh
bureau
police
has
done.
You
know,
prior
to
the
social
unrest,
and
so
some
of
these
initiatives
over
the
last
three
years
are
things
that
we
put
in
place.
We've
partnered
with
foundations,
we
partnered
with
social
organizations,
and
you
know
I
think,
that
they're
important
that
we
hit
upon
these
one
of
them
is
the
calvin
hall
public
safety
center.
That
was
a
partnership
between
the
housing
authority
city
of
pittsburgh.
E
The
buell
foundation,
which
placed
six
officers
in
the
sergeant
in
the
north
view
heights
in
allegheny
dwellings
neighborhoods,
and
this
is
where
you
know
it
allowed
officers
and
the
community
to
collaborate
on
safety
issues.
There
is
a
report
from
a
fused
fellow
that
evaluates
evaluated
that
initiative
and
I'd
be
happy
to
afford
at
the
council.
You
know
at
a
later
time.
Another
initiative
that
we
had
was
the
youth
diversion
program.
E
That
was
a
partnership
between
the
foundation
of
hope,
pittsburgh,
bureau,
police,
the
housing
authority,
the
buell
foundation,
the
pittsburgh
foundation,
dollar
bank
allegheny,
county
juvenile
probation,
the
pittsburgh
municipal
courts
and
the
allegheny
county
district
attorney,
and
that,
in
that
initiative,
sought
to
take
individuals
who
committed
minor
crimes
between
the
ages
of
13
and
26
and
divert
them
away
from
the
criminal
justice
system
and
provide
them
a
social
network
of
support
to
get
the
help.
E
They
need
chief
created
the
community
engagement
office
and
we
have
the
individual
on
sergeant
tiffany
klein.
Who
would
be
more
than
happy
to
delve
into
that,
but
that
office
expanded
youth
programming
to
offer
positive
educational
experiences
through
workshops
and
listening
sessions.
E
E
We
we
went
from
three
square
miles
to
18
square
miles,
and
you
know
that
system
detects
gunshots
within
seconds
allowing
us
to
respond,
render
first
aid
and
you
know
secure
evidence
and
arrest,
violent
offenders,
we've
expanded
the
public
safety
cameras
and
we
have
created
the
real-time
crime
center,
which
is
a
a
hub
for
the
pittsburgh
bureau
police
that
we
use
to
address
serious
issues,
shift
resources,
etc.
E
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
initiatives
we
did.
I
could
probably
talk
for
for
90
minutes
on
just
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
done.
You
know
in
the
last
three
years,
under
hugh
schubert
going
forward,
I
can
say
part
of
what
what
is
under
osar
is
policy.
One
of
the
you
know,
recommendations
from
the
task
force
and
we
appreciate
that
the
task
force
hard
work.
They
spent
a
lot
of
hours.
E
You
know
talking
to
us
talking
to
residents,
and
you
know
one
of
those
recommendations
was
you
know
the
a
can't
wait
policy
reforms,
so
the
pittsburgh
river
police.
We
reviewed
our
policies,
all
our
policies
are
online
to
you
know
under
the
transparency
aspect
of
pittsburgh,
bureau
police-
and
you
know
we
expect,
through
the
first
quarter
of
2021,
to
be
in
full
compliance
with
the
eight
can't
wait
policy
reforms.
E
E
Those
three
buckets
of
priorities
would
be
organizational
excellence,
relationship-based
policing
practices
and
partnership-focused
community
initiatives,
and
I
I
I
can
go
into
some
of
those
you
know
on
the
under
the
organizational
excellence
you
know,
there's
a
few
goals
we'd
like
to
have
we'd
like
to
build
a
technology
platform
that
allows
for
interactive
integrated
approach,
accountability,
transparency,
increased
safety
that
results
in
increased
community
confidence.
E
There's
two
individuals
on
this
on
this
panel
commander
eric
holmes,
dr
heath,
johnson,
they're
members
of
the
racial
disparities
task
force
and
that
task
force
has
awarded
two
contracts
to
independent
research
firms
to
study
race
and
pittsburgh's
criminal
justice
system.
We're
looking
to
implement
previously
purchased
software
that
will
allow
us
to
better
track
officers
under
our
command.
E
We've
issued
and
trained
almost
the
entire
department
on
the
new
axon
body-worn
camera.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
other
agencies.
E
Some
of
those
other
agencies
did
not
issue
cameras
to
all
of
their
personnel.
The
pittsburgh
bureau
police
says
cameras
issued
to
every
member
of
its
force,
including
myself,
including
the
chief
another
goal
under
organizational
excellence.
Is
you
know,
reorganizing
a
policing
to
support
enhanced
accountability
and
decentralized
decision,
making
we're
looking
at
examining
nationwide
best
practices
across
the
nation
regarding
with
respect
to
transparency,
with
respect
to
discipline,
et
cetera?
E
E
E
Under
partnership
focused
community
initiatives,
one
of
the
initiatives
we
have
currently
going
on.
We
are
partnering
with
the
foundation
of
hope
in
the
allegheny
county
health
department
for
a
substance,
use
disorder,
pre-arrest
diversion
program.
E
This
program
was
mentioned
by,
I
think
the
mayor
back
in
probably
the
summer,
but
you
know
we
were
moving
ahead
with
this
and
I
expect
within
the
first
quarter
we
can
have
a
pilot
up
in
north
side,
which
it
looks
to
make
take
individuals
who
are
falling
under
a
substance,
use
disorder
and
divert
them
away
from
the
criminal
justice
system
and
provide
them
the
help
that
they
need,
and
that's
just
some
of
the
the
three
you
know,
kind
of
initiatives
or
three
strategies
we
have
with
the
pittsburgh
beer
police-
and
you
know
at
that
point
I
you
know
I
can.
E
I
can
answer
questions.
I
can
turn
it
back
over
the
chief
and
I'm
sure
that
there's
other
others
on
this
call
that
would
like
to
chime
in-
and
you
know,
tell
you,
council
all
the
great
work
that
we're
doing.
A
D
You
know:
can
we
real
quick,
if
you
don't
mind,
we'll
go
through
some
of
the
people
on
on
the
panel
from
pittsburgh,
police.
A
D
You
if
we
can
start
with
commander
holmes
and
dr
johnson.
F
F
The
line
is
the
coordinator
of
also
our
criminal
intelligence
unit,
and
so
chief
schubert,
shortly
after
becoming
chief
asked
me
to
lead
the
efforts
to
create
a
real-time
crime
center,
and
so
we
did
some
peer
exchanges
with
canton
county,
new
jersey,
stockton,
california,
nypd
and
looked
at
their
real-time
crime
centers
and
see
how
we
could
develop
one
here
in
pittsburgh,
like
commander
raglan,
said
really
being
the
nerve
center
for
the
police
department,
with
the
focus
on
precision
policing
focused
on
using
data
to
assist
us
in
our
deployment
of
resources.
F
I
read
the
task
force
report
and
I
know
a
lot
of
emphasis
was
put
on
data
and
data
reporting.
We
are
part
of
the
western
pennsylvania
data
warehouse.
We
were
there.
I
believe
it
was
october
of
2018
when
president
obama
came
to
cmu
and
launched
the
white
house.
F
Data
initiative,
which
we
were
a
part
of
and
heaves
team
under
his
leadership,
has
really
done
a
lot
of
work
in
moving
forward
with
our
data
reporting
internally
and
both
externally
and
I'd
like
for
he
perhaps
to
maybe
jump
in
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
his
team
does.
They
do
a
great
job.
So
dr
johnson.
G
Thank
you
yeah,
dr
heath
johnson.
Here
I
oversee
the
the
crime
analysis
unit,
which
is
a
civilian
team
that
was
brought
on
to
really
look
at
data
all
across
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
over
the
last
well,
four
or
five
years.
G
We've
made
real
strides
in
and
getting
lots
of
the
the
data
that
the
police
collect
and
use
both
analyzed
on
an
internal
basis,
as
commander
holmes
said,
to
best
direct
our
resources
to
make
sure
that
our
policies
are
accomplishing
many
of
their
stated
goals,
and
I
think
some
of
our
examples
of
our
work
can
be
seen
at
the
the
western
pennsylvania
regional
data
center.
G
They
have
some
300
data
sets
and
many
of
which
provided
by
the
department
of
public
safety,
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police,
those
are
all
publicly
available.
We
have
recently
put
together
a
sheet
that
just
lists.
Essentially
all
of
those
data
sets
that
are
currently
available
and
we
are
in
talks
with
the
folks
at
the
wprdc,
as
well
as
the
allegheny
county
department
of
human
services,
who
also
house
some
interactive
dashboards
regarding
violent
crime
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
well.
G
They,
of
course,
cover
the
county
as
well,
but
we're
we're
working
with
both
of
those
agencies
in
a
partnership
to
try
to
expand
the
types
of
data
that
are
available.
We
see
no
reason
why
this
won't
be
accomplished
in
2021,
as
we
of
course
have
to
vet.
Some
of
these
data
sets
to
make
sure
that
no
sensitive
information
certainly
gets
released,
but
we
have
good
relationships
and
working
with
both
of
those
entities
and
really
looking
forward
to
having
our
full
suite
of
data
available
for
public
consumption
moving
into
2021..
G
Additionally,
we're
very
happy
to
show
off
frankly
the
work
that
the
pbp
does
on
an
annual
basis
in
our
annual
reports
and
taking
the
recommendations
from
the
task
force.
We
are
working
to
expand
the
types
of
analysis
that
we
present
in
that
annual
report
with
the
year,
drawing
to
a
close
shortly
here.
G
We're
compiling
some
of
the
final
data
sets
for
2020
and
my
team
is
going
to
be
working
diligently
in
this
new
year
to
try
to
provide
really
an
expanded
set
of
information
that
will
be
accessible
to
the
to
the
public,
certainly
internally,
just
to
make
sure
that
transparency
and
accountability
are
two
of
the.
You
know,
big
keystones.
G
We
constantly
lean
on
and
our
crime
analysis
unit
is
happy
to
to
work
with
that
and,
of
course,
always
we're
working
with
the
community
as
well
to
fulfill
requests
for
for
additional
data.
But
really
our
hope
is
to
have
all
of
that
stuff
kind
of
accessible
to
anyone
who
seeks
it
out
further.
Working
with,
like
I
mentioned,
the
wp
rdc
and
allegheny
county
dhs.
G
They
have
some
some
resources
and
are
happy
to
partner
with
us
to
try
to
visualize
some
of
this
data,
because
there
is
a
a
divide
of
sorts
between
those
who
might
be
interested
in
it
and
those
who
have
the
skills
or
adept
at
using
data
to
make
conclusions.
G
We
would
like
to
assist
in
making
that
a
an
easy
and
accessible
process
to
anyone
who
may
be
interested
and
we've
already
seen
some
good
examples
of
that
and
it'll
just
be
a
matter
of
getting
our
data
onto
those
platforms
where
we
can,
then
you
know
make
sure
everything
is
digestible
to
your
your
average
consumer
of
this
type
of
information.
And
that's
that's
really
all.
I
have
to
remark
on
that
front.
G
F
Thanks
dr
johnson
chief.
D
Yep,
real
quick,
I'm
gonna
go
down,
I'm
gonna
have
start
I'll,
just
say
it,
so
I
don't
have
to
repeat
it
each
time,
we'll
start
with
sergeant
costa
who
she
can
talk
about
the
community
engagement
office
and
we'll
go
to
assistant
chief,
linda
barone,
with
the
training
and
wellness
and
then
we'll
go
assistant
chief,
ana
kudroff
for
any
comments
she
has
on
the
homelessness
addiction.
D
Mental
health,
as
the
director
said,
we're
working
hand
in
hand
with
the
county
on
what
that
would
look
like
for
co-response
and
how
a
lot
of
things
can
be
improved
around
the
county
and
then
we'll
have
chatera.
She
can
go
over
the
gvi
health
and
safety,
and
things
like
that.
D
But
one
thing
I
do
want
to
say-
and
I've
said
this
to
you
before
and
I
want
to
say
it
so
I
it's
not
forgotten
on
on
my
end,
but
I
talked
about
diversity
being
a
huge
thing
for
for
us
in
is
an
organization
and
something
we
continue
to
struggle
with.
D
Now
we
have
close
to
300
people
that
can
retire
come
beginning
of
2021..
So
that's
a
third
of
our
department
and
of
that
number.
It's
in
the
high
50s
are
people
of
keller
right
now
we're
just
under
13
for
people
of
color
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police.
D
If
all
of
those
officers
supervisors
retire,
we
will
probably
go
to
less
than
seven
percent
as
an
organization
with
people
of
color
as
police
officers.
D
Right
now
it
doesn't
represent
the
the
demographics
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and,
if
all
would
go,
we're
going
to
be
in
pretty
pretty
bad
shape
with
that
and
we're
not
hiring
anybody
for
2021,
so
the
first
class
would
be
probably
in
2022
and
it
takes
a
year
to
get
a
group
through
the
class
through
the
academy.
D
So
I
just
want
you
to
know,
because
that's
something
and
I've
said
it
to
you
before.
It's
a
deep
concern
to
me
for
our
organization
and
it's
also
a
deep
concern
because
of
when
you
get
into
the
supervisory
ranks
of
having
commanders
of
having
assistant
chiefs
of
having
a
deputy
chief
and
chief
of
police.
You
know
for
future
future
years,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there,
because
it's
something
that
I
think
about
daily.
H
Office,
everyone
and
thanks
for
having
us
and
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
of
the
reform
task
force,
because
that
was
incredibly
informative
report.
So
I
I
run
the
community
engagement
office,
which
was
established
in
september
of
2019.
H
Some
of
the
main
goals
that
we've
been
working
on
over
the
last
year
are
kind
of
solidifying,
our
community
resource
officers
and
neighborhood
resource
officers
as
a
team
working
together
within
the
community
engagement
office.
So
we've
started
planning
trainings
for
those
officers
to
focus
on
strengthening
community
partnerships,
utilizing
resources
within
the
communities
and
kind
of
just
establishing
ourselves
as
a
as
a
team,
with
a
lot
of
assets
to
be
used
within
the
department.
H
We've
also
been
working
on
establishing
a
data
tracking
network
so
that
we
can
track
the
hours
we
spend
in
community
engagement
and
also
to
to
track
our
partners
and
make
sure
that
we're
serving
all
of
our
neighborhoods
all
90
of
our
neighborhoods,
we're
also
working
on
promotion
of
our
existing
or
developing
community
programs
and
partnerships
and
event,
participation
through
social
media
presentations
to
the
public
and
whatnot.
H
Some
of
the
specific
things
that
we've
been
focusing
on
over
the
last
year
is
the
expansion
of
youth
connections.
Youth
connections
is
a
program
that
began
in
for
sheer
school
high
school
and
also
the
student
achievement
center.
H
Also,
we've
also
started
to
work
on
establishing
faith-based
conversations
with
faith-based
leaders
within
each
of
the
geographical
zones
and
then
represent
representatives
from
the
ceo
office,
the
community
engagement
office
just
to
build,
build
relations
there,
like
the
building,
the
bridges
that
we
keep
talking
about,
so
that
officers
and
leaders
can
have
conversations
get
to
know
each
other,
build
trust,
and
then
they
can.
H
The
leadership
can
take
that
that
relationship
and
share
information
with
their
congregants,
but
also
they
can
bring
information
to
to
the
commanders
and
advise
some
of
the
work
that
the
commanders
are
doing.
We're
also
working
on
the
development
of
a
chiefs
advisory
council,
more
information
to
come
and
and
lastly,
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
focused
on
lately
is
developing
further
relationships
between
the
ceo
staff
and
the
gbi
outreach
and
reach
workers,
because
our
work
overlaps
so
much.
H
D
Thank
you,
assistant
chief
baron.
A
I
I
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
this
opportunity.
I
am
the
assistant
chief
of
administration
and
I
oversee
support
services
and
administrative
administration
branch
of
the
bureau,
which
includes
the
property
room,
our
training
academy,
our
court
liaison
units,
our
central
records
and
reports
units,
the
warrant
office,
that
reviews
and
processes
warrants
and
the
rest
of
our
officers.
I
Our
wellness
coordinator
and
also
under
that
follows
our
coordinator,
commander,
dangler
of
pmap,
as
well
as
our
computer
operations
unit.
As
we
all
know,
technology
is
a
necessary
thing
for
everyone,
especially
for
us
in
the
bureau
of
police.
There's
a
need
for
transparency
and
technology
will
allow
us
to
have
that,
but
we
all
know
it
isn't
cheap
and
it
does
require
updates
and
maintenance
continuous
lead
to
have
it
working.
I
We
have
the
city-wide
camera
system
as
well
as
shot
spotter,
as
commander
raglan
mentioned
that
enables
our
officers
to
get
to
victims
quickly
identify
locations,
evidence
that
may
be
there
and
actors.
At
times
we
have
recently
upgraded
our
body-worn
camera
devices
to
the
body-worn
three
that
will
allow
us
the
ability
to
be
able
to
view
online
activity
as
it's
occurring.
I
So
far.
We
have
716
of
those
new
devices
that
we
have
recently
deployed
due
to
covid.
It
limits
our
ability
to
do
in-house
in
person
training,
so
we
have
developed
virtual
training
for
this
device,
as
well
as
our
additional
training,
with
the
new
taser
sevens
that
we
have
under
this
police.
Seven
package
that
we
currently
have
our
officers
have
come
to
rely
on
utilizing
their
body-worn
cameras
for
a
number
of
different
aspects
during
their
tour
of
duty.
I
If
something's
occurring,
we
get
first-hand
view
of
what's
occurring
there
if
victims
of
domestics
are
encountered,
we're
able
to
take
statements,
view
injuries
that
will
help
with
cases
moving
forward.
I
We've
also
worked
and
updated
our
lethality
ascent
assessment
program
for
the
domestic
violence,
app
that
we
use
so
that
it
enhances
our
tools
in
the
fields.
I
Our
training
academy
is
responsible
for
a
number
of
various
trainings
that
we
are
mandated
yearly
by
our
municipal
officers,
training,
commission
and
again
because
of
covid.
We
have
gone
to
online
training
through
our
padmin
system,
where
officers
are
required
to
take
the
training
online,
and
we
will
be
aware
that
everybody
has
done
this
type
of
training
each
year.
We
have
to
do
additional
training
to
include
cpr
first
aid
and
firearms
requirement
certification.
I
Those
are
done
this
year
was
a
little
bit
challenging,
but
we
were
able
to
do
what
we
needed
to
get
done.
Based
on
the
coded
plans,
we
have
identified
to
ensure
the
safety
of
everyone
involved
next
year.
We
will
continue
the
mandatory
training
with
our
yearly
legal
updates,
including
in
the
training
for
the
state
next
year,
is
also
the
juvenile
justice
training,
human
trafficking,
training
and
special
needs
that
our
officers
euro-wide
will
receive
again
it's
a
mandated
set
of
training
requirements
that
everyone
will
have
to
take.
I
We
have
use
of
force
defensive
tactic,
training
again.
That
will
be
the
use
of
force
review
with
the
de-escalation,
a
number
of
other
techniques
that
we
will
do
when
we're
able
to,
and
do
it
safely
next
year,
firearms
annual
qualification
will
continue
as
well
on
our
use
of
force.
We've
taken
additional
steps
in
adding
an
additional
review
of
doing
a
monthly
review
of
each
use
of
force
through
our
training
academy
and
subject
matter
experts,
so
that
we
look
for
any
trends
that
might
be
developing.
I
Any
training
needs
that
we
need
to
take
to
ensure
that
we
are
following
the
proper
protocols
and
as
our
policy
dictates
with
those
things,
the
wellness
coordinator
has
been
very
busy.
Lately
we
had
to
cancel
our
crisis
intervention
team
classes.
I
I
We
have
a
current
recruit
class
in
there
and
they
have
completed
the
mental
health
first
aid
training
last
week
and
we
are
currently
developing
a
mental
health
and
first
aid
train
the
trainer
class,
and
we
have
two
sessions,
one
in
january
of
2021
and
one
in
february
of
2021,
where
we
will
get
a
number
of
our
instructors
and
adjunct
instructors
trained
so
that
we
can
train
the
whole
department
in
mental
health
and
first
aid.
I
I
Everyone
could
really
benefit
from
this
type
of
training,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
developing
the
training
for
civilian
personnel.
On
that
we
are
looking
at
researching
a
number
of
different
trauma,
informed
care
training
for
our
officers
as
well,
bureau
wide
that
is
in
in
the
process
of
being
planned
on
working.
In
that
all
recruiting
events,
let
me
back
up
a
minute.
I
Our
wellness
coordinator
is
part
of
pmap
and
they
continue
to
reach
out
to
those
members
who
are
on
leave
or
have
been
involved
in
critical
incidents
and
follow
up
with
them
through
to
ensure
that
anything
they
might
need
that
we
can
address
any
concerns
that
they
have
or
any
things
that
they
might
need.
We
reach
out
to
them
on
a
daily
basis.
I
We
have
most
of
our
recording
recruiting
events
this
year
have
been
cancelled
due
to
the
pandemic,
but
we
are
following
up
with
a
number
of
ways
that
we
can
reach
out
to
those
that
are
interested
in
law
enforcement.
D
Questions.
Thank
you.
If
we
can
assistant
chief
anna
kudroff,
do
you
have
any
words
on
some
of
the
things
that
you've
been
working
on
with
the
homelessness
and
mental
health
and
addiction.
J
Hello,
everybody.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
everyone's
attention
that
yesterday
was
national
homeless
memorial
day
and
in
pittsburgh,
we've
had
a
homeless
memorial
wall
of
plaques
that
originated
in
1989.
I
remember
it
very
clearly
because
that's
when
I
first
became
curious
about
the
phenomenon
of
homelessness
in
pittsburgh.
J
J
One
of
the
things
I
want
everybody
to
understand
is
our
officers
have
demonstrated
and
continue
to
demonstrate
caring
involvement
and
trying
to
help
our
homeless
community
members
on
the
street
and
over
the
course
of
this
year.
We
work
to
with
human
services
and
found
that
one
of
our
biggest
problems
is
the
service
providers
and
the
law
enforcement
officers,
and
this
would
include
ems
and
fire.
We
all
interact
with
our
homeless
community,
like
we
don't
know
each
other.
J
J
We
have
to
be
ready
for
our
homeless
community
to
probably
grow
with
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
and
other
concerns,
and
with
that
brings
a
need
for
officers
to
have
the
time
with
the
right
partners
to
get
a
more
appropriate
response
to
the
folks
we
meet.
We
need
to
have
our
resources
with
us
as
we
go
out
and
meet
our
homeless
community
members.
It's
a
community.
J
J
We've
also
worked
to
slowly
improve
our
relationship
with
our
outreach
workers
to
show
our
sincerity
and
our
commitments.
I
would
like
everybody
should-
and
I
have
read
several
encounters
like
this,
where
an
officer
discovered
somebody
that
lived
in
their
neighborhood,
they
went
to
high
school
with
they
knew
from
home
is
living
under
a
bridge.
J
This
is
a
personal
passion
of
mine,
and
I
know
there
are
officers
that
want
to
be
doing
this
kind
of
work
more
regularly
as
long
as
we
can
bring
the
right
resources
with
us
over
the
past
eight
years,
we
were
part
of
the
field
testers
of
the
big
berg
app,
which
was
a
huge
huge
advancement
to
what
the
police
officers
could
do
out
on
the
street.
J
Getting
the
right
resources
to
somebody
much
quicker
and
starting
to
learn
about
what
is
out
there
and
I'm
looking
to
have
big
bar
develop
further,
because
there's
more
help
available
and
if
we
can
tie
in
all
of
the
outreach
workers
all
of
the
mental
health
responders
all
of
the
social
workers.
J
We
can
now
start
to
make
a
more
helpful
impact
simply
working
together
as
a
team
part
of
that
will
include
bringing
our
homeless
outreach
all
the
people
involved
together
with
police
officers,
so
that
we
can
start
getting
know
each
other
and
building
that
partnership.
J
I'm
excited
because
I
know
we
can
do
this
and
it
is
actually
doesn't
have
to
cost
a
lot
to
do
it.
We
just
need
the
time
to
do
it.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
slow
work
and
you
have
to
build
that
trust
up
and
that's
that's
the
most
important
part
of
all
of
our
outreach
efforts.
So
that's
that's
all
I
really
had
to
share
right
now.
D
All
right,
thank
you.
Anna
murphy.
K
Thank
you
chief.
I
know.
K
Collaboration
and
partnership
is
another
area
of
focus.
Information
sharing
is
something
that
we
will
also
focus
on.
We
are
just
started
that,
through
our
stop
the
violence
newsletter,
which
is
well
received,
it's
a
mechanism
that
we're
using
to
get
violence
prevention,
information
out
to
the
city.
We
are
partnering
with
anti-violence
and
violence,
prevention
and
other
organizations
in
that,
in
that
realm
of
work
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
recognizing.
K
There
is
an
area
that
I
will
spend
a
little
more
detail
on
just
because
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
we
did
not
talk
about
the
last
two
times
that
we
talked
about
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention,
but
I'm
not
sure,
if
you
all
recall,
but
in
the
summer
well
this
summer
summer,
2020
governor
wolf
put
out
a
72-page
document
just
on
recommendations
on
how
to
make
a
pa
a
more
trauma-informed
state
and
so
through
that
the
office
of
community
services
and
violence
prevention
will
also
be
taking
on
this
task
here
locally.
K
This
is
a
large
undertaking.
If
you
have
time
read
through
the
72-page
document.
I
did
take
breaks
if
you
need
to,
but
I
will
tell
you
the
six
areas
of
focus
for
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
today,
and
one
of
the
the
first
area
is
ensuring
that
pa's
state
culture
is
trauma
informed
through
universal
training.
So
we
had
talked
about.
One
of
our
chiefs
talked
about
a
trauma
informed
training
within
the
bureau.
K
So
that's
an
area
of
focus
of
governor
wolf
through
this
trauma-informed
pa
plan,
also
ensuring
all
state
agencies,
policies
and
practices
are
trauma-informed
or
more
focused
on
prevention
and
healing,
and
that's
an
area
that
the
office
of
violence
prevention
is
extremely
focused
on
as
well
mandating
that
all
licensed
and
funded
entities
become
trauma-informed.
K
There
are
some
community
groups
here
locally
that
have
already
taken
on
this
work.
Prior
to
summer
of
2020.
We
have
partnerships
with
those
organizations
already,
and
so
through
the
community
services
and
violence
prevention
office.
We
will
strengthen
those
partnerships
and
do
so
so
that
we
know
how
we
can
support
this
trauma-informed
pa
plant,
also
building
and
supporting
grassroots
and
community-based
efforts
to
help
those
organizations
become
more
trauma-informed
in
every
part
of
the
commonwealth.
This
is
something
that
we'll
also
be
looking
at
through
the
community
services
and
violence
prevention
office.
K
We
are
looking
in
the
best
way
to
issue
micro
or
mini
grants
to
community
organizations
in
this
trauma-informed
space
is
an
area
that
we
intend
to
focus
on
as
well.
The
fifth
focus
area
of
this
report
is
recognizing
and
healing
from
traumas
of
major
crisis
such
as
covet
19,
and
we
all
know
how
covet
19
has
affected
the
black
community
and
black
businesses
very,
very
different
than
it
has
some
of
the
other
communities
in
the
area.
K
So
that's
another
area
that
we
will
be
focusing
on
this
office,
making
sure
that
we
have
resources
and
information
for
needed
populations,
and
then
the
last
area
of
focus
is
preventing
and
healing
racial
communal
and
historical
trauma,
whether
they
be
individual
or
systemic,
and
we
all
know
that
we
have
some
work
to
do
here
in
that
area.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
piece
of
information
with
you,
because
I
know
that
that
was
not
shared.
The
last
time
that
we
met
to
talk
about
these
offices.
A
Are
we
good
chief?
Is
that
everybody?
Okay?
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
mention
that
we're
also
joined
by
councilman,
burgess
and
councilman
coghill
is
having
an
issue
with
his
computer
this
morning,
so
he
will
not
be
joining
us,
but
he's
trying
to
get
to
download
this
and
watch
the
video
somewhere.
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
thank
the
chief
and
everybody
for
coming
on
and
the
director
for
setting
this
all
up.
A
I
think
it's
great,
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
key
words
that
you're
talking
about
were
mentioned
by
the
task
force
as
well
as
a
lot
of
members.
You
know
transparency,
training,
data,
especially
representation
of
what
our
officers
and
the
forced
in
the
future
will
look
like.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
chief
for
mentioning
that
I'm
going
to
go
in
order
of
when
council
members
arrive.
So
I'm
going
to
begin
with
council
member
wilson,
followed
by
councilwoman
strasberger.
L
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair,
thank
you,
councilman
o'connor
and
thank
you
chief
and
and
chief
schubert
and
commander
raglan
sergeant
costa,
and
you
know
everyone
else
that
is
joining
here
from
the
staff
at
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police.
L
You
know
it's
clear
from
the
presentation
that
the
the
bureau
is
doing
a
lot
and-
and
I
know
like
most
of
the
work
done
in
the
city
it
feels
like
it
can
go
unnoticed.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
appreciate
everything
that
zone
won
and
also
former
command
rack.
The
former
commander
at
that
at
that
zone,
commander,
ragland
and
now
lieutenant
ford
is
and
lieutenant
flesky
are
doing
for
for
the
community.
L
That
said,
you
know
this.
Past
year
we've
seen
the
the
protests
we've
had.
People
come
to
the
public
comment
portion
of
our
meetings,
special
public
hearing,
and
they
you
know
they
don't
want
to
go
unheard
and,
and
to
that
point
you
know
their
ask
is
to
not
even
look
at
this
task
force.
Just
you
know
all
in
one
all
in
one
line
just
cross
off
50
now
you
know.
C
L
I've
done
some
research
on
this,
and
especially
with
my
area
in
in
district,
one
trying
to
understand
the
role
of
everyone
and
what's
needed,
and
what
they're
into
what
other
entities
I
should
be
working
with
alongside
the
police-
and
you
know
I
I
found
just
by
looking
at
some
of
the
press,
briefings
some
past
budgets-
that
these
increases
were
due
to
being
out
of
act
47,
having
higher
being
able
to
bargain
for
higher
wages.
L
The
northview
heights
substation.
That
was
that
was
mentioned
here,
the
downtown
substation
and
the
new
contract
for
the
body
cameras.
C
L
You
know
I
wanted
to
if
someone
could
elaborate
on
this,
because
you
know
on
the
north
side
there
was
one
pittsburgh,
I'm
sorry,
one
north
side
that
was
created
that
did
have
a
lot
of
outreach.
That
already
kind
of
tried
to
you
know
was
was
intentional
about
going
to
neighbors
and
going
to
residents
of
north
view
heights
and
asking
them
what
they
want,
and
you
know
we
see
these
increases
from
past
years.
L
Previous
to
you
know
to
me
being
on
council,
but
I
see
this
and
I
really
wonder
like
did
we
get
this
wrong
or
is
this
the
direction
that
we
should
be
going
with
with?
You
know
the
substations
and
everything?
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
like
you
know
what
what
the,
what
the
thoughts
are
on
that
are.
We
are
we
moving
in
the
right
direction
with
the
substations
or
are
we
also
re-envisioning
that
as
well.
D
So
I
mean
to
answer
your
question.
Obviously,
every
year
the
cost
is
going
to
go
up
because
of
salaries
and
things
like
that
to
go
on
the
body,
worn
camera
in
the
taser
7
that
we
did
that
10
just
over
10
million
dollars
over
five
years.
D
D
But
it
also
isn't
the
investment
on
the
transparency
side,
that
it
helps
the
community
and
it
helps
the
police
themselves
just
in
complaints
that
may
be
filed
against
police
officers.
So
we
believe
that
it's
a
an
investment,
that's
worthwhile
and
I
believe
all
of
you
probably
thought
the
same
thing
when
we
brought
it
before
you
for
upgrading.
D
So
it
does
it
more
functionality
on
the
body,
worn
camera
that
that
helps
the
bureau
and
helps
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
As
far
as
the
substations,
you
know,
I
think
they've
been
in
northview
heights.
You
can
see
even
through
the
pandemic,
I
mean
that's
taken
a
toll
on
a
lot
of
us
on
how
we
do
things.
Speaking
of
community
engagement,
I
was
up
there
yesterday.
I
did
a
two-hour
walk
around
the
community.
D
They
also
had
a
winter
coat
giveaway
and
the
officers
from
northview
heights
were
there
helping
to
pass
out
coats
to
families
that
didn't
have
them
delivering
them
to
the
homes
up
there.
For
those
who
couldn't
come
down
to
the
church
on
chicago
street
to
to
get
them
it's
you
know
the
violence
in
crime,
the
last
I
checked
and
heath.
Can
you
know
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
has
gone
down
from
what
we've
seen
in
in
past
years,
they're
working
together
the
police
in
the
community.
D
D
Their
engagement
with
the
community
is
working
with
them
to
find
the
resources
that
they
need
the
services
that
they
need
to
help
them
on
a
variety
of
levels,
using
technology
to
help
with
the
crime
or
calls
911
calls
whatever
to
help
the
officers
to
make
better
decisions
when
when
they
go
out
and
to
de-escalate
things,
so
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
worthwhile
investment.
That's
through
the
the
housing
authority
of
city
of
pittsburgh.
D
You
know
in
partnership
with
with
them,
you
know
downtown.
We
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
growth
down
there,
it's
its
own,
unique
setting,
but
I
think
eventually,
there's
other
communities.
I
don't
think
it's
needed
in
every
community,
but
I
think,
there's
communities
that
are
you
know,
prime
opportunities
for
us
to
have
substations
in
there
in
having
the
officers
having
more
contact
and
engagement
with
those
who
need
help.
D
I'm,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know,
I've
been
walking,
beats
in
the
communities
and
talking
to
people
in
the
community,
and
you
know
I
think,
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
done
more.
D
You
know,
but
you
have
to
have
the
ability
to
to
spend
a
couple
hours
or
more
to
walk
around
and
you
have
to
have
the
the
you
know
the
passion
to
want
to
do
it
and
to
talk
to
people
and
find
out
what's
going
on.
So,
as
you
know,
commander
rightly
mentioned
before,
with
the
cros
and
the
nros
and
and
things
like
that-
that
everything
is
a
part
of
the
whole
plan.
You
know,
but
it's
it's
got
to
be
more
than
just
that.
It's
got
to
be
the
fabric
of
the
organization.
C
L
Thank
you.
Can
you
break
down
your
vision
for
the
relationship
between
the
office
of
the
community
and
and
community
health
and
safety
and
the
violence
prevention,
intervention
aspect
of
it
as
well,
and
then
could
you
specifically
talk
about
how
you'll
make
you
know
how
you'll
make
sure
those
offices
don't
fail.
K
The
offices
are
were
created
to
help
support
the
needs
of
our
officers
and
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
so
I
believe
if
we
keep
that
at
our
core
focus-
and
we
don't
let
I'm
just
gonna,
say
politics
and
other
agendas
get
in
the
way.
I
believe
that
the
offices
will
be
successful.
They
are
people
focused
and
that
is
on,
like
I
said
our
officers
as
well
as
the
communities
and
those
unique
needs.
K
We
work
both
offices
daily
with
the
bureau,
so
the
working
relationship
was
already
there
before
the
offices
are
created.
I'd
say
if
anything
at
this
point
they're
more
defined
and
we
will
be
doing
some
goal.
Setting
and
strategizing
together.
C
B
L
B
L
B
If
I
may,
both
offices
will
be
located
in
the
city
county
building
on
the
fourth
floor,
so
there
will
be
a
constant
interaction,
daily
interaction
between
the
offices.
B
I
mean
that's
being
arranged
right
now
and
both
offices
I
mean
chatera
and
the
mayor's
office
as
far
as
hiring
new
employees
or
the
new
employees
that
will
staff
the
offices.
I
mean
they're
they're,
going
to
be
interviewed
by
shatter
myself
and
represent
from
the
mayor's
office
as
well.
So
there
will
be
that
cohesiveness
on
a
daily
basis.
L
Can
you
explain
the
transition
if
this
is?
Hopefully
this
is
part
of
it
about
you
know.
Everyone
continues
to
talk
about
social
workers
going
in
instead
of
police
officers.
Can
you
we?
You
know,
we
continue
to
to
say
those
terms,
but
I'm
really
wondering
can
someone
elaborate
on
this
because
you
know
how
how
are
how
are
calls
handled
currently
for
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
like?
Why
would
someone
call
on
a
home,
you
know
someone
who's
experiencing
homelessness
like
who
who
is
calling
like
what
it?
L
What
are
they
can
someone
speak
you
know
of
a
of
instances
of
of
maybe
he
maybe
mr
johnson
has
some
some
data
on
this.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
calls
for
people
who
are
experiencing
mental
illness
or
homelessness
and
how
and
how
and
how
you're
gonna
you
know,
work
with
the
office
of
community
cert,
the
community
services
and
then
also
this
new
ahn
program.
That's
trying
to
address
the
urban
problem,
poverty
problem.
D
A
lot
of
couple
people
jump
in
here,
but
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
one
people
call
because
they
can
call
9-1-1
for
anything
and
we're
going
to
show
up
and
try
to
help.
You
know
there
was
a
call
this
morning
up
in
zone
3
on
bronzeville
road
when
I
was
coming
into
work
this
morning
for
somebody
to
call
911,
because
somebody
was
acting
strange
and
didn't
have
a
jacket
on,
so
they
were
concerned
about
their
well-being
with
the
temperature
and
what
they
were
doing
and
not
having
a
jacket.
D
D
You
know:
they're
working
with
law
enforcement,
they're
working
with
ems
they're
working
with
9-1-1
they're
working
with
all
the
various
social
service
entities
to
come
up.
What
with
what
they
think,
is
the
best
recommendation
on
how
to
do
this
stuff.
So
I
don't
want
to
be
premature
on
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
things.
K
And
waiting
for
that
report
is
imperative
just
from
a
safety
perspective
as
well.
We,
our
our
officers,
are
often
called
because
you
know
the
situation
may
appear
to
be
violent
in
nature,
and
then
you
know
someone
else
may
come
to
the
scene
and
have
some
other
tactics
or
skills
to
help
de-escalate
a
manner
to
take.
K
You
know
that
threat
of
violence
away
from
it,
but
we
certainly
just
don't
want
to
throw
civilians
into
these
situations
without
a
plan
and
some
type
of
variables
that
we're
evaluating
to
determine
the
risk
of
various
situations
and
determining
if
an
officer
is
needed
versus
a
civilian
support
worker.
L
Great
did
anyone.
G
In
terms
of
call
volume,
depending
on
the
month,
you
can
receive
between
150
and
in
excess
of
200
calls
for
service
that
are
related
to
psychological
issues
of
some
sort
and
those
you
know
range
from
from
minor
things
to
to
very
serious
incidents,
so
there,
it
is
important
to
you,
know,
keep
in
mind
too
that
there
is
a
range
of
those
calls
that
that
come
in
and
probably
do
need
to
be
addressed.
G
You
know
differently,
depending
on
those
calls,
so
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
difficult
situation,
but
it's
one.
That's
you
know
all
too
common.
If
you,
you
know
average
it
out
to
you,
know
three
a
day
or
something.
This
is
certainly
an
area
that
you
know
will
will
benefit
from
being
addressed.
G
L
I
know
others
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
I'll.
I
think
I'm
gonna
make
this
one.
My
last
question,
which
is
one
of
the
the
items
on
the
the
task
force
that
was
identified,
was
the
relations
with
the
with
the
fraternal
order
of
police,
and
it
spoke
to
the
the
recommend.
One
of
them
was
to
amend
act
111..
L
Can
someone
speak
to
the
the
discipline
currently
of
officers
and
and
if
there
is
wrongdoing
or
someone
is
accused
of
something
that
goes
through
omi
or
actually,
could
you
explain
that
process
for
everyone,
because
you
know
and
what
the
barriers
are
to
actually
holding
people
accountable
if
they
are
acting
inappropriately.
D
Well,
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
this,
so
anybody
that
you
know
does
something
that
violates
the
policy
or
there's
an
omi
complaint
and
it's
sustained
and
we
take
disciplinary
action.
We
do
that.
It
generally
goes
back
down
to
the
commander
of
the
individual
and
they'll
write
up
the
dar.
It
will
come
up
through
the
chain
of
command.
There
will
be
a
dar
hearing.
Obviously
the
officers
have
rights
as
well,
based
on
the
on
the
contract
and
fop
representation.
D
You
know
they
have
a.
They
have
an
opportunity
to
give
their
side
of
of
what
occurred
as
well.
You
know,
just
like
we
do
with
the
community
giving
a
voice.
They
they
get
a
voice
as
well
and
we'll
then
make
a
recommendation
on
whatever
that
discipline
might
be.
D
They
can
then
appeal
it
to
an
arbitrator,
and
I
don't
think
it's
so
much
in
ours
and
I'll.
Let
the
the
public
safety
director
jump
in,
but
it's
when
it
gets
to
the
arbitration
portion
that
we
have
issues
with.
B
Yeah,
I
you
know
what
has
come
out
in
the
media
is
incidents
where
the
arbitrator
after
hearing
both
sides
makes
a
decision
basically
to
put
the
officer
back
on
the
force
or
to
reduce
the
discipline
that
was,
you
know,
issued
from
my
office.
You
know
through
the
chief
there
is
this:
those
are
isolated
incidents.
B
I
mean
there
is
a
wide
array
of
discipline
that
is
issued
on
a
regular
basis
that
never
reaches
the
arbitrator,
whether
it
be
an
oral
reprimand
written
reprimand
or
days
off.
The
ones
that
you
hear
about
are
the
ones
that
usually
are
reduced
and
the
officer
comes
back,
and
that
is
what
the
mayor
is
concerned
about.
That
is
sometimes
what
we
are
concerned
about
is
you
know.
B
Many
cases
are
investigated
by
omi,
some
cases
don't
warrant
being
investigated
by
omi
and
the
minor
minor
offenses
are
actually
dealt
within
the
police
bureau
and
the
discipline
goes
through
the
normal
chain.
I
mean.
The
only
variable
is
that
a
lot
of
time
omi
will
conduct
the
investigation
and
turn
the
results
over
to
the
chief.
L
Okay
yeah,
I
just
saw
that
as
one
of
the
the
task
force
items
and
and
just
wanted
to
ask
that
one
specifically,
that
is
all
I
have
I
I
did
I
did
I
did
lie,
though
I
do
have
one
more,
which
is
the
and
and
chief
schubert
you.
You
brought
up
this
in
your
in
your
comments
previously
when
we
opened
up
about
the
diversity
on
the
police
force
and
how
we
would
see
it
decrease
if
we
continued
on
this
path.
L
Why
is
it
that
in
the
in
the
I
don't
know,
was
it
in
the
past
that
there
was
a
greater
influx
of
diverse
candidates
for
the
you
know
for
the
for
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police?
Are
we
not
like
like
like
what
changed
like
it
sounds
like
there's
a
disproportionate
amount
of
individuals
that
are
older,
that
are
black
and
brown?
Then
then,
you
know
the
younger
officers.
D
So
from
in
the
late
70s,
there
was
a
federal
order,
consent
decree
kind
of
if
you
will,
and
it
required
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
hire
in
a
list
of
fours.
D
So
a
list
black
male
candidates,
black
female
candidates,
white
male
candidates,
white
female
candidates
and
every
list
of
or
academy
class
that
would
come
out.
You
had
to
select
one
from
each
of
the
groups
so
right
off
the
bat
25
or
50
was
going
to
be
people
of
color
so
from,
and
I
think
linda
can
can
correct
me
for
a
wrong.
But
I
think
it
started
in
79
until
I
believe
92.
D
when
it
was
overturned
by
officers
or
candidates
that
sued
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
they
overturned
the
that
that
order-
and
so
that's
why
you
see
between
79
and
92,
the
amount
of
people
that
were
hired
and
they're
they're.
D
We've
lost
a
lot
through
retirements
over
the
years.
Just
from
from
that.
But
that's
that's.
Why
you're
seeing
it
and
you're
not
we're
not
seeing
the
the
the
numbers
for
taking
the
test
and
going
through
the
process
to
get
on,
and
you
know
we
that's
something.
That's
you
know.
It's
it's
draining
on
us
because
we
can't
we
can't
figure
it
out.
I
mean
civil
service
is
responsible
for
the
testing
and
things
like
that.
D
We're
figuring
out
ways
where
we
can
help
with
recruitment
internally
we're
going
to
put
somebody
full
time
to
work
with
the
civil
service
for
recruitment,
and
I
can
tell
you
civil
service
does
an
incredible
job.
I
mean
all
you
need
to
do,
is
reach
out
and
see
all
that
they
have
done
for
recruitment,
but
it's
it's
not
there
and
I
can
tell
you:
recruitment
is
down
nationally
over
the
last.
You
know
four
or
five
years
and
it's
down
locally
getting
people
to
want
to
become
police
officers
anymore.
D
So
that's
that's
kind
of
where
it's
at
it's.
It's
it's
its
own
question
and
it's
probably
going
to
take
its
own
time
to
talk
about.
You
know
to
really
to
delve
into
it,
and
civil
service
would
need
to
be
a
part
of
that
is
as
well.
L
Well,
thank
you
for
answering
the
question.
I
appreciate
the
historical
you
know
context
there.
Thank
you
chief,
thank
you,
the
director
and
your
staff,
and
thank
you
chair.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
councilman
chief,
just
so
you
know
we
did
email.
All
members
will
have
that
report.
They
should
all
have
it
by
now.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I'm
now
going
to
go
to
councilman
strasberger
then
followed
by
gross
and
verges.
M
M
I
want
to
thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
holding
this
post
agenda
for
everyone
for
being
here
today
and
for
each
of
you
for
for
those
who
have
met
individually
with
me
or
my
office
to
help
answer
some
questions
and
educate
me
as
well
I'll
just
dive
right
in
one
question
I
think,
is
an
add-on
to
what
councilman
wilson
just
asked,
and
that
is
I
mean
commander.
M
Ragland-
spoke
about
the
office
of
safety
and
accountability,
being
sort
of
an
incubator
of
ideas
and
listed
a
number
of
pretty
innovative
ideas
that
have
come
out
of
working
with
the
community
and
working
with
community
leaders,
specifically
in
the
north
side,
but
other
places
as
well
citywide.
M
I
wonder
if
there
has
been
any
incubation
of
ideas
having
to
do
with
two
different
categories
within
the
task
force
report,
one
being
use
of
force
and
another
being
working
with
crowds
and
how
crowds
are
managed.
I
don't
want
to
call
it
crowd
control
because
the
experts,
I've
talked
to
said,
don't
call
it
crowd,
control,
you're,
just
trying
to
manage
a
crowd
and
if
any
ideas
have
been
have
been
filtered
through
that
office
to
work
on
best
practices
from
around
the
country.
D
So
I'd
say
the
the
use
of
force,
one
we
we
we
are
looking
at
that,
but
I
think
we
have
one
of
the
the
best
academy
class
classes
in
the
in
the
country
or
in
the
state.
I
can't
speak
for
the
concert
I
can
only
speak
for
for
for
the
state
with
the
instructors
that
we
have
in
the
level
of
training
that
we
provide.
D
We
did
spend
about
an
hour
on
the
phone
with
david
harris
talking
about
things,
kind
of
picking
his
brain
on
things
and
he's
helping
looking
nationally.
You
know
we
we
have
the
luxury
of
of
getting
information
from
perf.
We
have
the
luxury
of
being
a
part
of
the
major
city
chiefs
association.
D
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
pull
stuff
for.
I
happen
to
be
on
the
the
major
city
chiefs
police
reform,
task
force
myself
working
on
a
national
level,
so
yeah,
there's,
there's
always
things
we're
looking
at
to
see-
and
I
told,
as
I
said
in
the
beginning,
we're
always
evolving
we're,
always
looking
how
we
can
do
things
better
and
a
lot
of
times.
D
Things
happen
that
in
law
enforcement
in
general
that
cause
a
change
in
in
how
we
do
things,
so
we
are
always
evolving
on
that.
The
working
with
the
crowds
we're
actually
waiting
and
the
director
might
be
able
to
jump
in
this,
but
you
know
others
looking
into
that
as
well,
I
believe
citizens
review
board
is
is
doing
something
as
well,
so
not
trying
to
like
compete
with
some
things.
B
Yeah
there
are,
as
the
chief
mentioned,
the
assistance
review
board
is
working
with
a
company
now
to
look
at
the
best
practices
to
look
at
ways
we
can
improve,
as
the
chief
has
stated
over
and
over
again,
you
know
we're
not
perfect.
B
I
have
to
compliment
the
police,
I
mean
we
had
well
over
200
marches
throughout
the
downtown
area.
The
great
majority
of
them
were
peaceful,
even
though
that
a
lot
of
the
organizers
didn't
want
to
cooperate
with
police,
we
were
able
to
escort
them
safely
throughout
the
city.
B
We
did
have
some
problems
but
at
the
same
time
we're
willing
to
listen.
The
one
thing
that
I
have
said
over
and
over
again
is
I
mean
I
will
not.
We
will
not
allow
officers
to
get
injured
and
the
incidents
that
did
occur.
B
I
mean
there
were
injuries
not
only
to
the
some
of
the
protesters
but
to
the
police
officers,
and
you
know,
injuries
and
damage
is
a
problem
but,
like
I
say,
with
over
200
protests
and
demonstrations,
and
I
think
we
had
problems
in
about
maybe
a
dozen
at
the
most
and
two
significant
days
of
protests
which
led
to
violence.
B
So
but
we
are
looking
at
ways
to
improve
it's
not
only
within
the
state
but
throughout
the
with
the
nation,
and
there
were
lessons
learned
and
we
will
take
the
successes,
but
we
will
also
take
the
criticism
and
ways
to
improve
and
modify
our
response.
If,
if
this
happens
again.
M
Thank
you
both
for
for
that
answer.
My
second
question
is
related
to
the
data.
So
I
think
commander
holmes
and
dr
johnson
touched
on
a
lot
of
the
work
that
the
data
team
is
doing.
Data
teams
are,
I
don't
know
the
exact
name
of
the
team.
I
I'm
heartened
to
hear
that.
M
I
think
the
cr,
I
think
the
public
is
hungry
for
some
access
to
some
of
the
data
that
goes
above
and
beyond
what
is
provided
at
the
in
the
annual
report
to
understand.
You
know
not
just
how
bureau
of
police
is
measuring
itself,
but
how
the
public
can
understand
how
the
bureau
is
measuring
itself
and
making
changes
in
response
to
that.
Whether
it
is
you
know,
call
response
to
calls
or
the
types
of
calls
coming
in
or
or
disciplined
to
be
frank
related
to
what
councilman
wilson
was
talking
about.
M
I
guess
two
two
part
question:
one
is
how
do
you?
How
do
we
think
that
it's
going
to
be
conveyed?
Is
it
gonna
be
a
dashboard?
Is
it
gonna
be
some
other,
some
other
way
of
visual
visualizing,
the
data
that
comes
in
hopefully
disaggregated
as
the
as
the
report
asks
for,
and
then
I
guess
a
judgment
call
you
know
we're.
M
This
is
a.
This
is
something
that
that
is
that
the
bureau
is
taking
upon
itself
and
the
department
of
public
safety
has
taken
upon
itself.
Now.
The
challenge
without
having
something
set
in
stone
is
that
it
could
change
15
20
30
years
from
now
is
council
action.
Would
that
be
helpful,
but
a
resolution
asking
for
this
to
be,
you
know,
mandated
data
reporting
into
the
future.
Would
that
be
helpful
to
ensure
that
what
is
being
done
over
the
course
of
2020
now
and
over
the
course
of
21
continues
far
into
the
future.
F
F
We're
also
working
right
now,
actually
behind
the
scenes
to
to
get
some
more
of
those
data
sets
and
dashboards
known
to
the
public,
because
there
are
a
lot
that
are
already
there
that
we
believe
that
the
public
just
isn't
aware
of,
and
certainly
we
do,
our
our
monthly
one-pagers
and
we're
looking
at
doing
different
types
of
analytical
reporting
in
a
one-pager
format,
with
raw
data
plus
heat
maps
and
things
of
that
nature.
F
So
for
people
who
are
visual
to
support,
you
know
what
they
want
and
heath,
dr
johnson,
if
you
want
to
add
any
more
to
that,
you
can.
G
Yeah,
certainly
I
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
it.
I
will
admit
that
internally,
our
capability
to
do
things
like
create
dashboards
wholesale
from
from
the
ground
up
is
is
quite
limited.
I
have
a
very
skilled
team,
but
we
have
had
some
attrition
and
it
doesn't
look
like
hiring.
Some
of
these
skill
sets
will
be
at
least
coming
anytime
in
the
very
near
future,
so
we
are
relying
right
now
on
our
partnerships
with
some
of
the
entities
I
mentioned,
that
are
housing
our
data.
G
I
do
expect
it
again
like
I
said
those
have
been
very
productive
meetings
thus
far,
and
I
expect
them
to
continue
in
that
way.
Dashboards
are
a
pretty
useful
one
and
one
that
we're
aiming
for,
at
least
in
certain
data
sets,
but
you
know
even
those
come
with
their
limitations,
because
that
means
again
too,
you
have
to
be
versed
in
how
those
work,
so
I
mean
that's,
certainly
one
of
our
goals
just
reporting
our
data
at
the
at
the
base
level.
G
I
think,
should
be,
though,
acknowledged
as
a
big
step.
You
know
five
years
ago
when,
when
crime
analysis
was
begun
in
its
current
iteration,
I
mean
we
didn't
even
have
access
to
the
data
we
ourselves
were
producing
in
a
ready
manner
and
that's
been
a
huge
development.
So
it's
come
a
long
way.
I'd
be
happy.
G
If
there
is,
you
know,
specific
data
sets
that
people
feel
would
be
best
conveyed
in
dashboards,
and
you
know,
we've
certainly
had
a
lot
of
that
input,
and
I
know
that
people
have
expressed
interest
in
some
of
the
things
that
aren't
currently
there,
but
it
should
be
pretty
easy
to
get
on
those
public
platforms.
I
know
traffic
stops
being
being
one
of
those,
but
right
now
you
know.
Essentially,
although
our
crime
data
arrest
data
firearms
seizure,
you
know
violent
crime
status.
G
All
this
is
is
available
in
various
forms
and
again
I
I
hope
it
to
continue
it.
It
is
gonna,
though,
quite
frankly,
require
us
to
continue
these
partnerships
with
other
agencies
and,
frankly,
rely
on
on
some
of
their
expertise
and
assistance
to
well
to
go
beyond
where
we
are
presently,
I
guess
I'll
say.
D
Yeah
one
one
thing
I
would
just
follow
up
on
it,
because
there
there
are
requirements
in
legislation
for
the
annual
report,
things
that
are
added.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
ask
is
that
if
there
are
things
that
are
added,
that
we
have
the
resources
and
capability
of
being
able
to
do
it,
and
you
know
finding
that's
one
thing
I
I
asked
dr
johnson
before
you
know,
is
there
things
is
there
software?
Are
there
things
that
we
need
now
and
and
what
would
that
cost
to
to
do
it.
M
I
asked
if
it's
something
that
would
allow
for
a
dashboard
presentation
beyond
that
category.
They
said
yes,
if
it's
successful,
we
could
potentially
extend
the
contract
and
expand
it.
So
just
wanted
to
note
that
for
your
own
edification
in
case,
that's
helpful
in
saving
taxpayer
dollars
in
the
future.
But
thank
you
for
your
questions.
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
let
others
get
their
questions
in.
A
Thank
you
councilwoman.
I
will
pass
it
off
to
councilwoman
gross.
N
Hi
there
everybody
thank
you,
mr
o'connor,
thank
you
all
to
everyone
from
the
police
bureau
for
being
here
and
making
so
much
time
to
answer
questions
not
just
once
but
many
times
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
and
we,
I
think,
are
getting
a
much
deeper
understanding
of
the
complexity
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
talking
about
at
council
that
you
all
are
dealing
with
on
a
daily
basis,
but
also
that
our
public
is
speaking
to
us
about
you've
heard
me
say
many
times,
I'm
sure
at
city
council
that
I
think
it's
important
for
this
council
to
look
at
our
budgetary
responsibility.
N
N
But
it
looks
like
the
police
department
specifically
has
recovered
and
is
definitely
at
a
higher
staffing
level
than
we've
seen
in.
I
want
to
say
15
or
20
years,
and
it's
definitely
at
a
large
portion
of
total
expenditures
for
our
city
budget.
You've
heard
me
say
that
even
in
the
2020
numbers
there
were,
which
I
have
more
deeply
analyzed
than
the
2021
budget,
since
we
only
just
approved
it
at
council-
is
that
we
have
something
like
115
million
dollars
were
budgeted
last
year
for
the
kind
of
staffing.
N
N
Why
you're,
I
assume,
advocating
for
these
advocacy
levels
that
you
or
staffing
levels
that
you
have
now
and
I
think
it's
I
keep
asking
this
question
because
I
know
it
changes.
I
think
the
last
time
we
asked
it
was
that
975
officers
on
payroll
today,
maybe
one
of
you
can
tell
me
you
may
actually
know
I
think
the
last
time
I
asked
you
how
many
people
you
had
on
payroll
commander
or
chief
schubert.
You
said
100
1004,
but
I'm
assuming
that
was
civilians
and
officers.
D
So
the
budgeted
number
is
900.
That's
officers
out
in
the
field.
I
mean
it
doesn't
count,
people
off
on
comp
and
other
other
reasons,
but
those
are
sworn
police
officers
that
are
there.
As
I
said
earlier,
it
takes
about
a
year
to
hire
somebody
and
replace
them.
So
it's
having
classes
in
to
replace
people
that
are
going
to
leave
so
there's
no
classes
for
2021..
D
So
whatever
we
lose
for
a
retirement,
it
could
be
50,
it
could
be
a
hundred.
We
we
don't
know
sure
three
I
mean
300
are
eligible
to
retire.
Sure.
D
N
I
understand
that,
but
it's
still
a
kind
of
curious
budgeting
thing
that
maybe
I'll
just
park
for
now,
but
I
assume
that
if
we,
you
know,
we,
for
example,
just
voted
on
the
city
planning
budget,
as
councilwoman
strasberger
just
mentioned.
I
don't
think
they
can
go
out
and
hire
just
additional
positions
that
weren't
budgeted
for
so
that
might
be
a
different
question
for
a
different
day.
But
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about
your
staffing
levels
compared
to
our
other
benchmark
cities.
N
So
in
pittsburgh
we
have
for
a
long
time
now,
10
or
15
years
been
comparing
ourselves
to
about
14
or
so
cities.
They
have
been
in
post-gazette,
it's
now
handled
at
pittsburgh,
quarterly,
usually,
and
so
we're
comparing
things
how
well
our
populations
are
doing
what
you
know:
economic
development
projects,
airports
whatever
it
is,
and
it's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time.
N
Yes,
so
pittsburgh
is
down
here.
This
is
2015
data,
so
this
was
based
on
staffing
in
2015,
when
pittsburgh
had
872
officers
on
payroll,
not
970.,
and
so
it
would
really
actually
be
a
higher
number.
Now,
I'm
suspecting
it
would
be
something
around
30
officers
per
capita.
I
mean,
I
don't
know
what
that
does
to
your
ratio
here.
N
You'll
see
that
there
are
cities
that
are
our
benchmark
cities
we
like
to
compare
ourselves
to
that
are
much
lower
seattle
at
19.7
officers
per
capita
and
that,
but
when
you
move
over
and
look
at
their
employees
per
capita,
you
see
that
that's
28.1
employees
per
capita,
so
that's
means
that
they
have
a
lot
more
civilians
on
staff
and
so
they're,
not
that
much
lower.
When
you
look
at
total
employees
for
10
thousand
austin
is
another
place.
N
We
like
to
compare
our
ourselves
to
to
see
what
we're
stronger
and
weaker
in
etc.
Their
officers
are
18.6
per
capita
and
total
employees
is
down
lower
at
24.4
per
capita.
There
are
cities
that
are
far
higher
baltimore
42.6
officers
per
capita
40.9
officers
per
capita
we're
looking
at.
I
saw
people
talking
about
sports
and
hills.
We've
had
some
council
members
bring
that
up
denver,
I
think
maybe
hilly
it's,
maybe
not
actually
as
hilly
as
pittsburgh
inside
of
denver
city.
N
But
it's
a
it
seems
like
it's
kind
of
a
plateau,
it's
21.5,
but
they
definitely
have
major
sports
teams.
So
there
are
other
factors.
People
have
brought
up.
So
I'm
going
to
stop.
Sharing
that
so
we
can
see
each
other.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
those
numbers.
N
B
Yeah
I'll
I'll
start
off
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
chief
real
quick.
I
mean
we
have
over
the
last
four
years
that
I've
been
here
almost
five
I
mean,
we've
talked
about
number
one,
hiring
more
civilians
to
do,
work
that
civilians
would
be
capable
of
doing,
and
some
of
the
work
would
include
investigations,
crime,
scene
investigations.
B
The
problem
is
that,
and
many
of
these
positions
have
actually
been
eliminated
with
the
budgets
this
year,
but
the
problem
we
found
in
some
of
the
cities
you've
mentioned
councilwoman-
is
that
the
pay
that
we
offer
would
offer
here
in
the
city
is
not
comparable
to
what
expertise
that
we
would
need
from
the
civilians
and
my
idea
was-
or
the
chief's
idea
is,
to
put
the
officers
on
the
street
to
be
involved
in
community
engagement
and
to
allow
civilians
to
take
over
some
of
the
officers
responsibility.
B
But
the
problem
is,
and
we've
had
positions
open
for
long
periods
of
time
that
we
cannot
get
appropriate
people
that
are
interested
in
being
hired
in
the
city
for
those
civilian
positions,
mainly
because
the
pay
I
mean,
in
my
background,
being
from
the
federal
government,
I
mean
a
lot
of
you-
take
the
federal
bureau
of
investigation.
When
I
was
there,
you
had
13
000
agents,
special
agents
and
that's
to
include
agents
and
upper
management
position,
and
you
had
approximately
35
to
40
000
civilians
to
support
those
agents.
B
But
with
that
being
said,
the
government
paid
those
civilians
comparable
salaries
for
the
jobs
that
they
do,
and
you
know
we've
been
we've
been
tackling
this
for
several
years
and
you
know
we
could
probably
lower
the
officers
the
amount
of
officers
if
we
had
the
civilians
to
replace
them,
but
right
now,
officers
they're
hard
they're
sent
to
specialized
training,
especially
in
the
crime
scene
unit
because
number
one
they
enjoy.
B
What
they're
doing
they've
developed
over
time
subject
matter
experts
in
in
the
career
that
they've
chosen
and
the
pay
is
comparable
to
the
duty
that
they're
doing
so.
It's
it's
a
problem
and
when
I
first
arrived
here
five
years
ago,
we
had
800
officers,
and
I
heard
for
two
three
years
continuously:
we
need
more
officers.
We
need
more
officers
now
we're
up
to
a
what
I
consider
a
satisfactory
level
of
officers
and
we
wanted
basically
curtail
back
to
the
you
know
to
where
we
were
years
ago.
B
I
mean
crime
statistics
this
year
I
mean
our
homicides,
as
of
today,
I
believe,
is
at
50
or
non-violent.
Our
non-fatal
shootings
are
148
and,
of
course,
we're
worried
about
not
being
able
to
support
the
salaries
for
the
officers
that
we
have
and
possibly
having
to
resort
back
to
levels
that,
in
my
my
opinion,
would
be
very,
very
detrimental
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh
as
far
as
crime,
and
we
have
to
come
to
the
equal
balance.
B
We
realize
that,
but
a
lot
of
the
cities
that
you
mentioned,
they
have
more
civilians.
That's
some
of
those
tasks
that
they're
doing
alleviates
the
police
officers
from
doing
those
duties
and
we've
looked
at
putting
clerks
or
putting
individuals
in
the
zones
and
moving
the
police
officers
out
into
the
street.
B
D
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
on
the
civilian
side:
that's
that's
exactly
right.
We
can't
hire
people,
I
mean
we're
not
paying
a
salary
that
people
want
to
take
those
positions.
We
have.
We
struggle
all
the
time,
just
hiring
clerks
for
various
positions
with
it.
D
But
you
know-
and
I've
told
you
this
before
you
know
I
I
was
here-
everybody
on
the
screen,
for
the
most
part,
was
here
on
the
police
side
when
our
budgeted
number
was
900
and
we
had
805
807
810,
whatever
trying
to
get
to
the
number
that
we
were
never
able
to
to
get
to,
and-
and
I
can
tell
you
how
difficult
it
was
in
services
had
to
be
cut
and
when
we,
if
we
go
down
to
those
numbers,
there's
things
it's
going
to
have
to
be
cut,
and
you
know
I'm
just
going
to
be
blunt,
like
community
engagement
and
things
like
that
are
the
first
to
be
cut,
which
is
something
that
you
know
I'm
totally
against,
because
I
believe
we
have
an
opportunity
of
my
whole
career,
I
believe
in
community
policing,
but
there's
things
that
you
need
resources.
D
You
need
to
make
that
happen.
Even
while
you're
trying
to
make
it
the
fabric
of
the
organization,
you
need
people
like
sergeant
costa
and
the
countless
others
who
are
nros
and
cros
to
help.
Do
a
lot
of
that
work
that
you're
just
not
going
to
have.
I
saw
it,
I
watched
stations
closed.
I
watched
specialty
units
shut
down
and
I
watched
community
engagement
disappear
over
the
over
the
years.
D
So
you
know
you
got
to
look
at.
I
mean
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
I
mean
we've
what
305
000
somewhere
around
their
residents,
we're
a
very
compact
city.
When
you
look
at
you
know
total
square
miles,
you
know
we're
we're.
I
always
like
to
look
we're
a
small
town
with
a
big
city,
charm
and
or
I'm
sorry,
a
big
small
town,
but
we
have
a
a
charm
of
being
a
small
small
town.
You
know
you
got
to
look
at
the
daylight
population.
D
D
As
well
so
there's
a
litany
of
reasons
why
you
need
the
manpower
to
do
it,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
we
are
going
to
do
unless
it
was
cut,
is
a
staffing
study
to
really
see
where
we
are
as
far
as
the
manpower
is
as
it
relates
to
civilians.
The
last
time
it
was
done,
I
think,
was
2005
and
maybe
linda
or
somebody
else
can
correct
me,
but
it
was
probably
2005
by
the
iecp,
but
I
knew
when
we
were
working
with
lee
schmidt.
We
had
now
have
rachel
opperman.
N
I
think
that's
really
good
input
chief,
and
I
want
to
kind
of
focus
on
one
thing
that
you
said,
because
I
could
hear
it's
really
important
to
you
that
you
really
firmly
believed
he
said
it's
incredibly
important
to
you
that
you
engage
in
community
policing,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
N
D
Are
true,
we've
said
multiple
times
before
any
of
this
anything
happened
this
year
before
dhs
stepped
in
we're
the
ones
that
have
been
asking
for
help
from
the
county,
because
those
services
aren't
the
city,
those
are
the
county.
We
do
not
have
control
over
them.
They
have
two
billion
dollars
to
do
stuff.
Things
are
happening
now,
but
we've
been
the
ones
who
have
been
actively
asking
for
it
for
years.
N
So,
yes,
we
need-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
what
the
pressure
is
honestly
with
our
citizens,
also
looking
hard
at
the
city
budget
and
saying,
basically,
why
can't
we
need?
There
are
so
many
needs
in
our
communities
that
our
neighbors
have
and
I've
said
this
before
and
then
people
are
like
look
at
this
big
fat
budget.
N
We
can't
have
the
money
we
need
for
these
other
things,
because
the
policing
budget
is
so
big.
And
yes,
there
are
lots
of
other
issues
to
work
at
which
I
know
that
other
members
have
spent
some
good
time
working
on
policies
to
work
on
training
and
on
police
interactions
and
make
those
more
positive.
N
But
I
think
we
have
to
we
have
we
have
limited
resources?
We
all
know
that
and
we
want
to
talk
about
how
we
do
what
our
communities
need
and
is
it
always
an
officer
who
does
that?
And
yet
the
officers
are
still
going
to
be
there
and
there
will
be
officers
and
there
will
be
officers
out
there
and
then
so
then,
also
where
we
spend
their
time.
N
I
am
interested
on
and
I'm
not
going
to
spend
more
time
on
the
kind
of
crime
analysis
unit.
I
think
that's
really
important
work,
but
I
also
don't
want
us
to
lose
sight
of
the
work
that
councilwoman
strasberger
has
done,
showing
that
really
it
looked
like
two-thirds
of
your
hours
of
your
officers
of
the
total
bureau's
off
time,
maybe
even
more
than
two-thirds
is
on
things
that
aren't
crime
traffic
wellness
visits.
N
I
can't
remember
all
the
categories
because
I
don't
have
councilwoman
strasberger's
report
up
in
front
of
me,
but
I'll.
Let
her
talk
more
about
that,
but
we
need
to,
I
think,
also
look
at.
Where
are
the
things
that
police
officers
can
do
because
they
are
the
best
trained
to
do
those?
And
then,
where
are
times-
and
other
members
have
touched
on
this-
where
we
need
social
workers
or
other
groups
or
we
need
you
know
the
department
of
human
services
assets
better
deployed
in
the
city
I'll
just
frame
it.
That
way.
N
N
I
think
so
I'll
just
leave
it
there,
and
I
think
we
are
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
this
in
the
new
year
and
really
talk
about
how
much
policing
we
can
afford
both
to
have
safe
neighborhoods,
but
also
how
much
police
that
we
can
afford
to
have.
As
you
know,
at
the
at
the
defunding
of
other
important
city
functions
right.
So
this
budget
defunds
permits
licenses
and
inspections.
It
defund
this
budget,
defunds
city
planning,
this
budget
defunded,
even
the
commission
for
human.
N
We
don't
human
rights
commission.
We
call
it
human,
something.
Other
commission,
commission
that
I'm
I'm
sorry
it's
escaping
my
name.
We've
had
too
many
meetings
and
it's
defunded
dpw
it's
defunded
parks
and
rec,
and
we
did
not
defund
police
even
a
little
bit
and
so
I'm
supportive
of
the
positive
initiatives
with
the
stop
violence
fund
and
with
the
community
health
and
safety
department,
and
I
look
forward
to
to
talking
more
about
that.
But
I'll
stop
now.
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
councilwoman.
Our
last
council
member
is
councilman
burgess
councilman.
O
Thank
you.
Let
me
start
off
by
just
first
of
all
saying
thank
you
to
director
his
rich
chief
schubert,
your
staffs
chatera,
for
the
work
that
you
do.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
work
with
you
as
a
partner.
O
O
O
O
It
was
not
just
you
know
the
officer,
it
was
not
just
the
police,
it
was
also
council
and
the
preventative
programs
that
we
tried
to
initiate
was
always
met
with
scrutiny,
and
you
know
until
recently-
and
so
now,
I'm
glad
over
the
next
year
that
this
has
now
become
a
cause
that
people
are
interested
in,
and
I
I
welcome
your
participation,
but
for
me
this
is
not
today
the
flavor
of
the
month
or
the
subject
of
the
month.
This
is
something
I
have
worked
on
my
entire
career,
so
let
me
say
three
things.
O
First
of
all,
as
I've
said
publicly
and
privately,
and
it's
checked
with
the
law
department,
we
cannot
fire
police
officers
at
this
point.
We
cannot
the
only
way
to
reduce
the
force.
If
for
those
of
us
who
want
to
reduce
the
force,
is
to
not
hire
new
officers,
it
is
the
single
only
way
you
can
do
it,
but
even
when
you
do
that,
it
has
to
be
done
carefully
because
we
have
to
on
the
left
on
one
side.
O
We
have
to
do
those
things
on
one
side
to
get
rid
of
the
cause
of
crime
and
violence
right
and
then
on
the
left-hand
side.
We
can
change
how
the
officers
have
more
civilians
do
other
things.
This
becomes
a
a
juggling
act
right,
a
juggling
night
that
will
occur
over
many
years.
O
O
O
I
have
seen
it
not
away,
but
up
close
and
personal.
You
know
I've
spent
my
career,
you
know
in
the
jails
as
a
chaplain
and
then
as
a
director
of
education,
running
programming
that
were
reintegration
and
balance
reduction.
So
I
will
continue
to
work.
I
read
the
task
force,
I'm
sorry
for
the
background
noise
in
my
house.
O
I
will
continue
to
work
with
police
and
the
public
safety.
We
have
great
chief,
great
public
safety
director,
great
assistant,
I'll
continue
to
work
with
them
I'll
continue
to
work
with
council,
but
I'm
suggesting
to
you.
O
O
This
has
been
my
priority
for
at
least
the
last
12
years.
I've
been
on
council
and
probably
10
years
before
that
before
council.
Let's
work
long
term
together,
I
I
I
can
testify
that
the
public
safety
director
and
the
chief
and
the
departments
are
willing
for
partnership.
We
have
to
make
tough
decisions.
Right
may
have
to
make
tough
decisions
in
in
may
and
june,
but
we
have
made
the
city
safer.
O
O
I'm
simply
saying
that
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us,
but
we
have
to
remember
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there
is
violence
in
our
city
that
violence
is
concentrated
primarily
in
poor
african-american
communities
and
as
we
move
forward,
we
have
to
remember
that
this,
if
their
lives
are
important
and
the
protection
of
their
lives
are
important
and
we
cannot
should
not-
and
I
will
not
do
anything
that
does
not
protect
those
lives,
and
so
how
do
we
do
that
right?
Is
it
the
programming?
Is
it
more
officers?
Less
officers
is
the
social
workers.
O
O
Sincerely
and
let's
also
take
serious
input
for
those
communities
that
are
disaffected
disproportionately
by
by
guns
and
violence,
because
those
shots,
those
those
deaths,
happen.
F
O
They
happen
every
month
and
there's
not
news,
just
not
the
there's,
not
the
great
you
know
new
shows,
there's
no
arenas
picked
with
people,
they
just
died
anonymously,
and
so
this
is
this
issue
is
something
we
must
do
together
and
we
will
do
together
for
every
death
every
death.
Every
death
is
important.
O
Every
life
is
important
and
we'll
try
to
help
them.
I'm
sorry,
that's
enough.
Thank
you
for
your
sharing.
I've
talked
to
the
members
of
the
committee.
I
hope
to
work
with
the
police
and
public
safety
to
implement
the
recommendations
and
to
continue
doing
more
creative
things
like
shotspotter
and
stop
the
violence
and
the
maryland
lethality
assessment
model
and
all
the
other
things
that
we've
been
in
partnership
and
able
to
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
councilman.
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
all
council
members.
You
know
this
is
obviously
an
important
topic
for
all
of
us,
as
well
as
the
passionate
individuals
that
work
in
that
field.
A
I
think
again
the
words
that
you
guys
were
talking
about
and
how
you've
started
to
implement
that.
That's
really
important,
for
you
know
us,
as
council
members,
the
general
public
to
know
about
the
transparency
and
everything
that's
going
on,
obviously
with
representation
with
data
and
how
you
see
our
force
moving
into
the
future.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
do
a
follow-up
from
the
task
force
meeting.
A
I
think
that
that's
a
a
good
way,
for
you,
know
our
departments
to
get
out
in
front
and
say
what
we've
done,
what
we're
doing
we
plan
on
being
open
to
other
ideas
down
the
road
in
the
future.
So
thank
everybody
for
being
here.
Thank
all
council
members
for
being
here.
I
do
want
to
give
a
thank
you
to
public
safety
as
well
all
departments,
director
historic,
for
setting
this
up
the
chief
for
being
here
and
then
a
personal.
Thank
you.
A
We
had
an
incident
at
my
mom's
house
the
other
day
and
I
didn't
get
to
thank
ems
on
our
last
council
meeting,
but
they
were
very
good
on
the
spot
and
and
great
with
a
follow-up.
So
I
want
to
thank
them
as
well
and
to
everybody
viewing
you
know.
Please
continue
to
have
this
conversation.
I
think
it's
one
that
we
are
all
open
to
a
a
dialogue
about
in
the
future.
A
So
with
that,
thank
everybody
for
being
here
for
giving
your
time
and
everybody
have
a
very
safe
and
healthy
holidays.
Take.