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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council
standing
committees
meeting
for
wednesday
september,
2nd
2020.
My
name
is
kim
clark
baskin
and
I
am
the
assistant
city
clerk
with
us.
Today
we
have
our
sign
language
interpreter
logan,
showalter,
the
following
is
a
list
of
legislation
up
for
preliminary
approval
by
pittsburgh.
City
council
bill
number:
zero,
six,
zero
three
resolution
appointing
douglas
anderson
as
a
director
of
the
department
of
finance
and
city
treasurer.
A
Finance
and
law
committee-
mr
lavelle,
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
638,
ordinance
amending
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
code
of
ordinances,
title
ii,
fiscal,
article,
1
administration,
chapter
219,
operating
budget,
section,
219.03
collaborative
budgeting
process;
bill
number,
639
resolution
authorizing
and
directing
the
issuance
of
a
warrant
to
cocopreneur
llc
for
the
sponsorship
of
events
related
to
small
business
engagement
and
education.
A
Bill
number
640
resolution
authorizing
the
issuance
of
a
warrant
in
favor
of
brenda
richmond
administrates
of
the
estate
of
christopher
m
tompkins
care
of
carrington,
lewis
esquire
in
the
amount
of
thirteen
thousand
dollars
relating
to
the
full
and
final
settlement
of
a
litigation
filed
in
the
district
court.
For
the
western
district
of
pennsylvania.
A
Public
safety
services
committee,
mr
o'connor,
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
642
resolution
providing
for
the
issuance
of
a
warrant
in
favor
of
scanlan
fiber,
optics
llc
in
the
amount
of
twenty
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
and
eighty
six
cents
for
the
installation
of
in-car
camera
access
points
for
the
department
of
public
safety.
Bureau
of
police
bill
number
643
resolution
authorizing
the
city's
department
of
public
safety
to
purchase
hazardous
material,
emergency
response,
equipment
from
midland
manufacturing
corporation
costs
not
to
exceed
13.
A
This
bill
is
sponsored
by
council
members,
public
works
committee.
Mr
coghill
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
624
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
public
works
to
enter
into
a
license
and
maintenance
agreement
in
which
the
city
grants
to
walnut
capital
a
right
to
plant
and
maintain
landscape
improvements
upon
city
property
along
bakery
square
boulevard
in
melon
park.
A
Bill
number
625
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
public
works
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
execute
relevant
agreements
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
aging's
senior
community
center
grant
to
make
improvements
at
the
hazelwood
healthy,
active
living
center
and
further
providing
for
an
agreement
and
expenditures
not
to
exceed
sixty
five
thousand
dollars.
For
this
stated
purpose.
A
Bill
number:
six:
twenty
nine
resolution
granting
unto
renewal
inc
their
successors
in
the
signs,
the
privilege
and
license
to
construct,
maintain
and
use
at
their
own
cost
and
expense.
A
new
exhaust
flew
that
will
project
into
the
right-of-way
at
329
boulevard
of
the
allies.
First
ward,
6th
council
district
bill
number
630
resolution
granting
unto
smith
brothers,
boggs
lp
their
successors
and
assigns
the
privilege
and
license
to
construct,
maintain
and
use
at
their
own
cost
and
expense.
A
Bill
number
632
resolution
amending
resolution,
744
of
1996,
entitled
the
resolution
authorizing
and
directing
the
city
controller,
to
create
a
special
trust
fund
to
be
designated
as
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
for
deposit
of
cash
in
contributions
and
authorized.
The
use
of
the
funds
deposited
therein
by
the
department
of
public
works
for
any
and
all
expenses
associated
with
the
operation
in
implementation
of
projects
related
to
the
planting
and
promotion
of
trees
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
A
We
have
bill
number
644
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
city
planning,
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
community
and
economic
development's
blight
remediation
program
to
study
city-owned
vacant
lots
in
the
homewood
neighborhood
bill
number
646
resolution
providing
for
the
designation
as
a
historic
structure
under
title
11
of
the
code
of
ordinances
that
certain
structures
known
as
the
john
p,
robin
civic
building,
located
at
200
raw
street
in
downtown.
In
the
first
floor
city
of
pittsburgh.
A
Urban
recreation
committee,
reverend
burgess,
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
621
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
enter
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
into
an
agreement
with
allegheny
county
department
of
human
services
for
the
city's
operation
of
its
seniors
community
centers
sad
agreement
shall
be
for
a
term
of
one
year,
cost
not
to
exceed
783
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
bill
number
six.
Twenty
two.
A
In
governmental
affairs
committee,
ms
gross
is
the
chair.
We
have
bill
number
633
resolution
authorizing
the
city
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
allegheny
clean
ways
to
grant
a
license
to
allegheny
clean
ways
to
enter
onto
certain
city-owned
parcels
in
order
to
perform
certain
work,
including
assessment
and
removal
of
litter
and
illegal
dumping.
A
B
C
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
pre-agenda
for
wednesday
september,
2nd
2020,
we
have
one
appointment
today
for
consideration.
We
have
with
us
this
morning,
mr
douglas
anderson,
as
the
director
of
the
department
of
finance,
I'm
currently
joined
by
councilwoman,
erica
straussberger,
others
will
join
as
abel
with
a
clerk.
Please
read
the
titles
of
the
bill.
C
If
we
could
begin,
mr
anderson,
if
you
would
just
give
us
up,
we
all
know
you
very
well,
but
for
the
public's
benefit.
If
you
would
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
information
on
yourself
and
then
we
can
go
into
questions
if
they're
already,
okay,.
D
C
E
Good
morning,
good
morning,
chairman.
E
F
E
Welcome
aboard
doug.
Thank
you.
You
know
the
controller's
loss
is
our
gain.
Hey
sorry,
I
didn't
fix
my
hair
yet
guys
you
know
I
got
to
go,
get
pretty
for
the
meeting
but
doug.
I
just
wanted
to
welcome
you
aboard.
You
know
we
all
have
the
utmost
confidence
in
you.
I
think,
just
judging
by
some
of
the
conversations
we've
had
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
new.
G
Well,
I
guess
acting
director
anderson,
it's
really
good
to
to
know
that
we're
we're
going
to
be
in
good
hands
with
you
once
certain
council
confirms
you
and
we
couldn't
be.
We
couldn't
be
meeting
you
in
a
more
dire
time
needing
your
services
to
the
city.
So
I
guess,
do
you
have?
What
are
your
thoughts?
I'm
sure
this
has
been
sort
of
weighing
on
you
as
it's
been
laying
on
us.
G
D
Well,
you're,
you're,
right,
councilman
or
councilwoman.
Thank
you
very
much.
You
know
the
city's
right
now
to
have
projected
a
revenue
shortfall
of
in
the
neighborhood
of
100
million
dollars,
and
you
know
we
started.
We
start
off.
We
start
off
the
year.
With
a
at
the
end
of
2019,
we
had
a
surplus
of
20
million
and
a
general
fund
revenue
balance
of
133
million.
D
So
we
started
off
in
good
position,
but
as
as
covet
hit,
we
have
losses
and
parking
tax
amusement
tax,
taking
huge
hits
in
those
things.
It
could
be
a
lot
worse,
but
my
vision
for
to
help
with
these
revenue
shortfalls
is
to
you
know.
D
I
mean
the
finance
department
doesn't
really
do
anything
on
expenditure
side,
we're
more
on
the
revenue
side
and
I'd
like
to
go
out
and
the
finance
department
has
a
function
where
we
have
tax
compliance
officers
to
go
out
and
make
sure
that
our
that
those
businesses
and
individuals
who
are
doing
business
in
our
city
who
live
in
our
city
and
who
are
expected
to
pay
taxes
are
repaying
taxes.
D
So
I
think
that's
one
way
that
we
could
begin
to
address
those.
We
have
the
finance,
it
has
a
real
estate
division
where
we
sell
and
we're
the
landlord
in
the
city
we
sell
property.
We
could
begin
to
revamp
our
land
bank
and
our
real
estate
department
to
where
we
have
addressed
our
vacant
properties
across
the
city,
to
get
begin
to
get
those
on
the
tax
rolls,
and
so
those
are
just
some
of
my
ideas
for
how
we
even
begin
to
address
some
of
these
revenue
shortfalls.
G
That's
great
to
hear
you
know
it
does
strike
me
that
there's
probably
so
much
sitting
left
uncollected
from
just
lack
of
compliance
and
lack
of
ability
to
force
compliance
of
payment
of
various
taxes,
and
I
realized
I
said
budget
shortfall.
G
I
meant
revenue
shortfall,
so
I
just
wanted
to
correct
myself
there,
but
and
it's
great
to
hear
that
you're
thinking
about
vacant
properties-
and
you
know-
I
see
a
lot
of
synergy
between
that
and
getting
those
back
on
the
tax
rolls
and
also
you
know,
say:
workforce
development,
finding
rent
to
own
type
of
homes
for
people
or
permanent
family
homes
for
people
I
mean
there's
so
much
that
can
be
wrapped
up
in
in
that
which
I
know
every
council
member
thinks
about
probably
much
more
than
I
do
when
it
comes
to
vacant
lots
or
or
abandoned
properties.
G
So
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you're
thinking
about
that
in
a
holistic
way.
That's
great!
Those
are
all
my
questions.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
C
Thank
you.
I
would
simply
add
that
I've
known
doug
excuse
me
for
a
while
now
and
truly
look
forward
to
having
him
join
us,
as
our
finance
director
he
obviously
brings
a
world
of
expertise
is
overqualified
for
the
position
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
I
do
have
one
question
for
you
just
as
we
enter
this
year's
budget
season.
Obviously,
we've
already
sort
of
acknowledged
that
we
don't
need
to
put
out
a
budget
too
soon
as
we're
waiting
to
see
what
the
federal
government
does.
C
I
for
one,
do
not
expect
to
receive
any
relief
dollars
this
year,
unfortunately
for
the
benefit
of
our
city,
but
I'm
just
curious
to
hear
your
thoughts
about
how
councils
should
be
interacting
with
the
administration
as
we
enter
this
sort
of
weird
budget
cycle,
so
that
we're
not
all
reacting
and
trying
to
as
when
we
get
a
budget
in
november.
How?
C
D
Why
I
think
what
would
help
is
just
constant
communication
between
the
administration
and
city
council.
I
am
available
to
meet
and
just
whenever
you
need
just
the
exchange
of
information,
so
so
city
council
is
aware
of
what's
going
on
what
the
numbers
are
and
just
what
the
what
position
the
city
is
in
financially.
C
Thank
you
so
with
that
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
maybe
beginning
in
october.
If
we
could
then
have
maybe
weekly
conversations,
maybe
with
yourself
maybe
once
a
week
with
all
the
appropriate
directors
just
to
talk
about
what
you're
looking
at
as
relates
to
the
budget.
That
way
members
can
be
a
prize
or
generally
what
to
expect
once
the
budget
is
actually
delivered,
absolutely
cool.
Thank
you.
Seeing
no
other
members
that
will
exhaust
our
our
pre-agenda.
C
A
So
for
clarity
we
actually
approved
last
week,
so
there
will
not
that
the
vote
has
already
been
taken.
Councilwoman
strasberger,
so
he's
he's
actually
been
approved
as
a
finance
director
and
treasurer.
Thank.
C
Thank
you,
mr
anderson,
for
being
here
with
us
today
that
will
exhaust
our
pre-agenda.
It
is
9
53
our
regular
agenda.
Our
standing
committee's
agenda
excuse
me,
does
not
start
till
10.
Therefore,
I
would
just
ask
everyone
to
remain
on
mute
until
10
o'clock
rolls
around
and
then
we'll
start
that
meeting
thank.
B
C
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
wednesday
september,
2nd
2020
council
will
continue
virtually
on
tuesdays
and
wednesdays
until
further
notice.
All
meetings
will
stream
live
on
the
city's
youtube
channel.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
H
Cool
well,
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
david
grey
witter
and
I
live
in
the
north
oakland
neighborhood
of
pittsburgh.
I
thank
the
council
members
for
having
me
and
for
listening
to
what
I
have
to
say.
I'm
a
fourth
year
phd
student
at
carnegie,
mellon,
university,
school
of
computer
science
and
my
research
is
an
ai
ethics.
H
Based
on
my
research
and
my
professional
experience
and
after
thinking
deeply
about
this
issue,
I
do
not
believe
there
is
a
way
to
build
a
predictive
policing
system
which
avoids
this
egregious
problem.
I
ask
that
the
council
vote
to
end
predictive
policing,
stop
location
monitoring,
disclose
bids
on
surveillance
systems
and
disclose
current
and
past
surveillance
initiatives.
C
I
I
I
However,
past
arrest
data
is
inextricably
influenced
by
structural
racism
within
society
and
the
criminal
justice
system.
The
tech
will
just
tell
you
to
send
more
officers
to
the
black
and
brown
neighborhoods
that
have
already
been
over
policed
and
unjustly
incarcerated
in
the
past.
It
doesn't
matter
how
good
the
algorithm
is.
If
you
feed
it
racially
biased
data,
it
will
spit
out
racially
biased
predictions,
and
at
this
point
there
is
no
arrest
data
that
is
not
inherently
racially
biased
and
there's
no
reconfiguration
or
reinvention
of
this
tech
that
will
get
rid
of
that
racial
bias.
I
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
local
law
enforcement
is
probably
not
too
pleased
with
this
legislation,
and
you
might
be
worried
that
by
enacting
an
outright
ban
or
regulating
this
technology
in
any
way,
you
might
harm
the
relationship
with
that
you
have
with
them.
I
get
it,
but
the
reality
is
that
leaving
a
path
to
acquisition
of
this
technology
in
the
legislation
runs
the
risk
that
some
future
pittsburgh
pd
might
convince
some
future
city
council
that
their
version
of
the
technology
is
good,
that
they
worked
out
the
bugs.
I
J
Hello
yeah
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
priya
bonti
and
I'm
a
fifth
year
phd
student
in
computer
science
at
carnegie
mellon
university
working
on
machine
learning.
I
also
echoing
the
comments
of
the
previous
two
speakers,
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
the
spirit
of
councilman
o'connor's,
proposed
ordinance
to
regulate
facial
recognition
and
predictive
policing
and
thank
him
for
bringing
it
forward.
J
While
I
believe
the
current
language
should
be
really
greatly
clarified,
including
a
strengthening
of
paragraph
b2
regarding
the
conditions
for
approval
and
a
re-tooling
of
section
c
on
exemptions
which
I'm
happy
to
discuss
further
offline
in
general.
I
hope
members
of
city
council
will
lend
their
support
to
this
initiative
to
prevent
the
perpetuation
of
structural
biases
in
policing
through
technological
tools
and
further,
ideally
support
an
outright
ban
on
these
technologies.
J
In
fact,
the
opposite
is
true
because,
as
previous
speakers
have
alluded
to,
predictive
policing
relies
on
biased
and
deeply
flawed
data
finds
patterns
in
this
data
and
then
propagates
this
forward
when
making
predictions
about
where
crime
will
occur
next,
so
this
is
not
more
objective
than
what
humans
are
doing.
It
is,
in
fact
giving
the
guise
of
objectivity
to
what
humans
are
doing
and,
in
fact,
as
a
result,
generating
feedback
loops
that
further
and
further
perpetuate
the
criminalization
of
pittsburgh's
communities
of
color.
J
While
I
give
that
example
of
predictive
policing
facial
recognition,
technologies
are
similarly
disproportionately
biased
against
racial
and
gender
minorities.
The
stakes
here
I
want
to
emphasize
are
really
very
high.
The
use
of
these
bias
technologies
has
real
implications
for
members
of
our
community
to
approve
the
use
of
these
technologies
is
to
approve
the
further
criminalization
of
pittsburgh's
already
over
policed
black
and
brown
communities,
and
to
approve
the
perpetuation
and
acceleration
of
bias
and
arrest
and
incarceration,
because
the
use
of
these
technologies
is
inherently
biased.
J
J
I
ask
you
to
join
me
in
supporting
strict
regulation
and,
ideally,
a
ban
of
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
technologies
in
pittsburgh
as
one
step
in
ending
the
feedback
loops
of
bias
that
define
our
criminal
justice
system
again.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward,
and
yes
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
to
speak.
C
L
Hello,
yes,
oh
thank
you.
My
name
is
steven
stamey
and
I
have
lived
in
the
friendship
area
for
the
past
39
years
and
made
it
my
home.
L
L
Many
people
helped
to
clean
up
this
area,
the
crime
and
the
graffiti
and
the
traffic
problems
we
we
put
in
stop
signs,
whether
we're
not
we
work
with
the
city
and
our
city
council
representative
bill
peduto
at
the
time
to
widen
the
streets
and
intersections
to
allow
ease
of
traffic
and
make
it
safer.
There's
not
been
an
accident
at
this
corner
for
30
years,
but
the
city
plans
on
painting,
50-foot,
clowns
and
balloons
at
this
intersection
in
front
of
my
home.
L
I
am
the
homeowner
here.
There's
another
man
named
mark
bendler
who's,
a
school
teacher
lives
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
We
were
never
discussed.
We
were
never
asked,
no
one
from
our
city
government,
no
one
from
this
cockamamie
group
that
that
represents
these
people.
They
are
not
from
here
they're
from
another
area
of
of
shadyside,
and
they
want
to
put
50-foot
clowns
and
balloons
in
front
of
our
homes.
L
The
the
proposed
traffic
changes
are
absolutely
ridiculous.
They
are
dangerous.
How
would
school
buses,
ems
trucks,
fire
trucks,
ambulances,
commercial
vehicles
to
aldi's?
They
go
around
and
through
friendship.
These
roads
are
too
narrow
as
it
is,
and
narrowing
these
roads
would
not
only
be
dangerous
but
danger.
Everybody,
including
the
the
community.
L
What
has
been
proposed
is
nothing
more
than
graffiti
there's.
No
such
thing
as
asphalt,
art
of
any
kind
and
the
7
25
to
75
000
that
the
city
was
going
to
spend
could
be
much
better
spent,
feeding
children
or
helping
in
the
pandemic
that
we
have
now
the
use
of
tax
dollars
to
clean
up
the
park
from
the
drunks
and
the
drug
addicts.
L
There's
a
guy
that
daily
takes
a
bath
in
a
bucket
over
there,
but
no
one
ever
comes
when
you
call
the
police,
but
yet
you
want
to
paint
50-foot
clowns
and
balloons
supposedly
to
make
it
safer
for
children
there
are
no
children
here.
These
are
all
singles.
Friendship
is
filled
with
single
people,
mostly
school
age
and
above
and
working
class.
L
These
people
proposing
this
do
not
live
here.
They
live
in
another
area
of
this
many
blocks
away.
Maybe
this
bunch
of
counselors
would
listen
to
citizens
like
me
and
actually
return
phone
calls.
Maybe
even
do
the
right
thing.
Maybe
our
mayor
would
return
the
phone
call
that
he
promised
to
return
to
me.
L
K
Hi
good
morning,
I
am
here.
K
A
similar
issue
to
previous
speakers
on
the
bill
on
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition,
speaking
as
a
resident
in
point
breeze
and
a
phd
student
in
human
computer
inaction
at
cmu,
and
also
in
support
of
the
coalition
against
predictive
policing
and
the
black
activist
collectives
demands
to
end
the
criminalization
of
black
people,
including
surveillance
and
predictive
policing.
K
So
I
I
echo
this
the
support
for
a
full
ban
and
and
want
to
again
mention
the
legacy
of
redlining
racial
and
just
economic
discrimination,
disruptive
urban
renewal
and
inequitable
rates
of
incarceration,
both
in
our
city
and
nationwide,
and
point
to
these
as
reasons
why
predictive,
policing
and
facial
recognition
can
never
be
proven,
unbiased
or
just
these
technologies
have
resulted
in
gang
databases
containing
half
the
black
men
in
chicago
unlawfully
used
in
court
cases.
K
So
these
are
proven
wrongs
that
will
not
be
erased
with
new
evidence,
and
it
is
in
fact,
in
recognition
of
these
harms
that
I
believe
council
has
introduced
today's
bill
on
such
technology
with
predictive
policing
halted
both
that
cmu
and
the
city,
its
original
champions
gone,
and
with
pittsburgh
bureau
police,
not
using
facial
recognition
according
to
their
policies.
This
bill
should
be
a
bare
minimum
of
the
changes
we
hope
to
see
from
council.
In
the
face
of
racial
injustice.
K
Furthermore,
other
technologies,
other
companies,
such
as
pred
poll,
the
leading
predictive
policing
company
in
the
nation,
has
actually
applauded
similar
versions
of
this
legislate.
This
legislation,
santa
cruz
and
we're
we're
concerned
that
such
as
legislation
was
supported
by
the
leading
predictive
policing
company
in
the
nation
and
want
to
voice
support
for
a
complete
ban.
That
does
not
include
an
exception
for
these
technologies.
M
M
The
adoption
of
predictive
policing
and
facial
recognition
will
only
exacerbate
the
already
existing
racial
disparities
in
our
criminal
justice
system.
These
technologies
work
by
learning
from
underlying
data
sets,
so
they
can
only
serve
to
reflect
and
amplify
the
biases
inherent
in
our
current
systems.
Policing
that
produces
the
data
sets.
M
This
isn't
a
problem
with
the
technical
proficiency
of
the
creators
of
the
technology
or
the
way
it
is
used.
It's
an
inherent
relationship
between
machine
learning,
algorithms
and
the
data
sets
used
to
create
them.
So,
as
other
speakers
have
already
noted,
this
will
result
in
feedback
loops
that
further
and
further
entrench
the
reality
of
criminalization.
Of
pittsburgh's
communities
of
color,
while
at
the
same
time
giving
a
false
veneer
of
objectivity
afforded
by
the
appearance
of
a
neutral
algorithm,
making
the
choices
rather
than
a
human.
M
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Having
exhausted
our
list
of
registered
speakers,
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
standing
committee
agenda.
Would
clerk
please
take
the
role.
C
Thank
you
that
takes
us
to
our
first
committee
for
today,
which
is
finance
and
launch
here
by
myself.
We
have
four
new
papers.
There
was
will
638.
P
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
question.
I
did
talk
to
chief
gilman
about
this
bill
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I
know
we're
because
of
cove,
but
this
is
a
one
year,
extension
on
the
budget
process
which
we
understand.
I
just
wanted
to
know,
and
I
don't
need
the
answer
right
now,
but
if
somebody
in
budget
I
know
doug
was
on
for
a
pre-interview,
not
sure
he
can
answer
this.
P
But
if
somebody
can
just
ask
or
I'm
asking
to
see
if
the
projections
from
april
have
changed,
which
is
why
you
know
we
needed
to
push
it
back
a
little
bit.
I
thought
we
had
a
projection
of
about
120
million
loss,
so
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
the
projections
has
changed
leading
into
the
budget
process,
and
I
don't.
D
C
Thank
you.
The
last
number
that
I
heard
was
a
approximately
100
million,
so
that
may
be
a
change
and
doug
on
the
call
this
morning
stood
somewhere
around
the
same,
but
we
can.
We
can
get
that.
B
A
A
Bill
640
resolution
authorizing
the
issue,
one
of
a
warrant
in
favor
of
brenda
richmond
administrators
of
the
estate
of
christopher
m
tompkins
in
the
amount
of
thirteen
thousand
dollars
relating
to
the
full
and
final
settlement
of
a
litigation
in
the
u.s
district
court.
For
the
western
district
of
pennsylvania.
B
G
E
C
P
C
B
C
Opposed
p
cars
are
approved,
that'll
take
us
to
our
public
safety
services
committee
here
by
councilman
o'connor
three
new
papers,
bill
642.
A
P
O
C
P
Motion
approved
brief
discussion,
so
good
sorry,
so
I
just
wanna
thank
my
colleagues
for
this
bill.
I
do
wanna
thank
the
callers.
I
want
to
thank
councilman
strasberger
for
setting
up
the
coordination
with
cmu
and
my
office.
There
are
some
amendments
that
we're
working
out
through
the
law,
department
and
public
safety
that
we
hopefully
will
get
to
council
by
friday
worst
case
monday
of
next
week,
we
did
meet
with
public
safety
yesterday.
P
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody.
You
know
in
general,
for
the
support
of
this
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
good
letters.
Obviously
the
callers
as
well.
This
is
something
that's
much
needed
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
this,
like
other
cities
have
been
so
I'm
actually
going
to
make
a
motion
to
hold
one
week
for
discussion
next
week.
Hopefully.
O
C
Thank
you
that
takes
us
to
the
public
works
committee
chaired
by
mr
coghill
new
papers,
bill
624.
A
625
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
public
works
and
director
of
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
execute
relevant
agreement
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
aging's
senior
community
center
grant
to
make
improvements
at
the
hazelwood
healthy,
active
living
center
and
further
providing
for
an
agreement
and
expenditures
not
to
exceed
65.
000.
C
A
H
I
C
A
C
E
O
R
A
632
resolution
amending
resolution
744,
which
authorized
and
directed
the
city
controller,
to
create
a
special
trust
fund
to
be
designated
as
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
to
provide
the
directors
of
the
office
of
management
and
budget
with
authority
to
direct
certain
proceeds
of
the
shade
tree.
Trust
fund.
C
G
S
Hi
councilwoman,
yes,
you're,
correct
there
already
is
a
shade
free
trust
fund.
The
way
it
was
previously
set
up
was
that
all
revenue
from
bus,
shelter
advertisements
would
have
to
go
into
the
shade
street
trust
fund.
This
is
more
of
a
technical
correction,
basically
saying
that
not
every
single
penny
of
bus,
shelter
revenue
would
go
into
the
shades
and
trust
fund.
We
could
direct
it
to
the
general
fund
or
other
trust
funds
as
needed.
Moving
forward.
G
S
Q
Yes,
thank
you
so
that
thank
you
councilwoman,
because
that
alludes
to
the
question
I
had
so
in
the
in
the
bill.
It
says
bus,
shelters,
contributions
from
private
citizens,
companies,
foundations,
governmental
agencies.
I
was
just
curious
like
if
it's
for
the
bus
shelters
you
know
is
that,
like
is
that
the
only
group
that
we
would
be
moving
money
from
or
is
that
the
other
language
seems
to
make
it
pretty
open
and
broad.
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
if
there
was
more
technical
clarification,
we
could
make.
Q
S
Says,
as
it
says,
it
would
the
the
authorizing
revenue,
if
from
the
other
entities,
could
be
redirected
as
well.
This
change
was
more
of
a
technical
correction
just
so
that
any
and
all
revenue
was
not
forced
to
go
into
this
fund
that
we
could
redirect
things
like.
I
said,
as
moving
forward.
If
other
contracts
come
up,
if
other
opportunities
come
up.
Q
Okay,
yeah:
I
do
see
that
correction
of
the
the
line
any
and
all
okay,
thanks
for
the
clarification,
I
just
wanted
to
understand
more
of
how
the
shades
retrust
one
works.
Thanks
no.
C
E
S
Apologize,
it
was
on
you,
I
do.
I
don't
know
the
exact
balance
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
can
check
our
financial
system
and
when
I
follow
up
with
councilwoman
strasberger's
question
and
answer,
I
can
include
the
balance.
If
that
would
be
helpful
as
well.
E
O
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
director
good
morning.
O
I'm
a
little
curious,
I
kind
of
feel
like
I'm
writing
a
blank
check
and
that
kind
of
makes
me
a
little
bit
nervous
because
then
every
dollar
that
would
come
from
bus,
shelter,
revenue
could
very
well
be
directed,
and
there
would
be
no
money
going
into
the
shade
tree
commission
at
all.
It
would
be
at
the
will
of
the
office
of
management
budget.
Am
I
correct
on
that?
I
think.
S
S
Yeah
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
switching
that
this
that
contract
kind
of
drove
this
bill,
because
in
that
contract
it
states
that
the
first
25
000
of
the
bus,
shelter
revenue
would
be
directed
to
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
and
the
other
revenue
outside
of
the
first
25
000
per
quarter.
That
is
so
100
000
per
year,
could
be
directed
to
the
general
fund
so
based
on
the
language
of
the
original
authorizing
resolution.
For
this
trust
fund
that
contract
language
wouldn't
necessarily
match
up
one
for
one.
S
O
But
we
don't
have
that
language.
I
can't
see
that,
and
that
was
a
whole
lot
of
information
to
digest.
Is
there
a
way
to
direct
a
minimum
that
must
go
into
a
percentage-wise?
A
minimum
percentage
of
revenue
that
must
be
dedicated
to
the
shade
tree
commission
or
urban
force
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
that
we
we
tend
to.
S
Right
and
we
understand
that
the
language
itself
isn't
in
this
particular
bill,
but
that
particular
language
that
you're
speaking
to
is
in
the
contract
for
gateway,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
share
that.
It's
in
draft,
though
currently
right
now,
but
we
needed
this
change
first
before
executing
that
agreement,
but
that
language
would
would
stipulate
what
would
go
into
the
designated
shade
tree
trust
fund
for
revenue.
O
I
just
think
I
would
be
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
with
having
a
minimum
percentage
of
bus,
shelter,
ad
revenue
and
other
revenues
that
must
be
directed
to
the
shade
tree
commission
at
a
minimum.
This
and
please
I'm
not
trying
to
overemphasize.
But
this
would
authorize
the
office
of
management
budget
to
redirect
the
every
penny
of
revenue
to
other
resources,
including
the
general
fund.
S
Based
on
the
con,
based
on
the
current
draft
of
the
gateway
contract
in
the
language
in
there,
no,
we
would
have
to
designate
25
000
of
the
first
25
000
of
the
bus,
shelter
revenue
per
quarter
to
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
under
this
contract.
So
it
would
be
a
minimum
of
a
hundred
thousand
per
year,
based
on
the
draft
of
the
contract.
R
There
you
are
in
one
of
your
little
windows,
I'm
karin
erickson,
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
council.
You
passed
a
resolution.
R
I
can
go
back
and
find
the
actual
number
of
it,
but
it
was
earlier
this
year.
Perhaps
in
the
spring
you
passed
a
resolution
approving
the
gateway
contract
and
explicitly
in
that
resolution
it
does
state
precisely
what
director
palace
stated
there
that
the
100
000
per
year,
a
minimum
of
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,
will
go
into
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
from
that
contract,
so
that
contract
provides
for
a
guaranteed
minimum
revenue
from
the
transit,
shelter
advertising
different
from
the
contract
that
we
had
with
lamar.
R
In
years
past,
the
lamar
contract
had
a
a
total
value
to
that
contract.
That
said,
you
will
pay
and
in
fact
it
was
only
80
000..
So
the
new
contract
puts
more
money
into
the
shade
free
trust
fund
than
previously,
but
that
was
just
the
the
annual
payment
80
000
flat.
R
Is
that
anything
above
that
minimum
that
is
gained
that
that
additional
revenue
might
go
to
other
purposes
like
sidewalk
improvements
or
or
you
know,
physical
improvements
around
the
transit
shelters
or
something
else,
but
the
minimum
to
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
is
protected
and
preserved.
In
that
resolution
that
you
passed
earlier
this
year,
just
to
yeah
clarify
that.
O
All
right,
I
think
I
was
a
little
confused
in
that
I
thought
that
director
paulus
was
explaining
the
previous
contract
with
lamar
and
not
the
present
one
but
gateway.
So
that
raises
my
comfort
level
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
still
have
this
sort
of
nagging
thing:
that's
that
makes
me
worried
about
monies
just
going
into
the
general
fund,
which
could
go
anywhere.
I
do
like
the
idea
of
physical
improvements,
whether
they
be
bus,
shelter,
related
or
sidewalk
related
or
mobility
related.
O
S
I
mean
we
would
be
happy
to
work
on
drafting
other
language.
I
guess
the
the
the
difference
in
revenue
would
just
depend
on
any
contract
that
would
be
dealing
with
revenue
that
would
go
into
this
trust
fund,
so
it
would
be
already
legislated
by
that
point
approved
by
you
all,
because
all
the
contracts,
all
the
resolutions
for
contracts
have
to
so
the
stipulations
would
be
kind
of
a
case-by-case
basis
in
that
particular
in
this
particular
instance.
Instead
of
just
a
blanket
amount
into
it
into
that
trust
fund,.
O
And
I'm
I'm
trying
to
read
the
materials
that
are
provided
to
council
with
the
bills,
but
they're
not
as
explanatory
as
what
you
had
offered
up.
Can
you
list
again
the
other
sources
of
revenue
that
come
in
that
could
possibly
be
redirected.
S
O
Director
rick,
you
I'm
sorry
direct
directs
to
you
off
the
top
of
your
head,
have
a
sense
of
what
the
other
ones
are.
R
O
I
think
that's
all
for
me
for
right
now,
but
I
may
come
back.
Thank
you.
U
You
so
hi
yeah,
I
I
am
kind
of
on
the
same
wavelength.
I
think
with
the
other
questions
where
I'm
not
comfortable
with
putting
the
negotiating
giving
omb.
Basically
the
authority
kind
of
an
open
cart
launch
authority
to
even
with
these
parameters
that
you've
talked
about
of
putting
these
amounts
for
what
goes
into
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
into
contract
negotiations.
U
I
think
that's
the
whole
reason
we
set
up
trust
funds
and-
and
it's
a
part
of
a
public
conversation
council-
has
to
enact
the
trust
funds
so
that
we
have
public
conversations
about
them,
and
I
think
I
heard
the
directors
say
that
well,
if
it's
in
the
contract,
then
council
has
approved
it,
but
that's
never
the
way
it
actually
happens.
U
I've
asked
many
times
to
see
a
contract
before
voting
on
it,
and
that
has
not
ever
happened
once
because
I'm
always
told
no
council
has
to
just
give
you
kind
of
blanket
authority
to
negotiate
a
contract
before
the
contract
exists
and
so
over
and
over.
We
are
resolutions.
You
can
look
at
all
of
them
just
kind
of
approve
and
give
the
administration
the
right
to
negotiate
a
contract,
and
it
never
has
to
come
back
to
council
and
so
explain
how
this
is
different.
S
Like
director
rick
stated,
I
think
there
was
a
resolution
that
was
passed
in
january
of
2019
that
had
the
stipulations
that
was
passed
by
council.
That
specifically
mentioned
these
particular
parameters
as
it
pertains
to
the
gateway
contract.
S
U
That
you
know
in
your
eyes
this
in
both
director's
eyes
that
this
kind
of
this
particular
situation
seems
reasonable,
but
I
still
am
uncomfortable
on
principle
that
we're
going
to
allow
trust
funds
to
kind
of
just
the
you
know.
We
we
do
a
lot
of
deliberation
in
setting
them
up
and
for
good
reason
and
with
public
input
and
in
public
discussion,
but
that
we
just
kind
of
let
that
all
become
fuzzy
and
non-binding.
Basically,
for
this
kind
of
backdoor
contract
negotiation
just
makes
me
really
uncomfortable.
I
don't
like
the
precedent.
U
I
understand
the
balance
here
because,
like
councilman
krauss
just
said,
I'm
really
in
favor
of
improving
our
transit
shelters.
They
desperately
need
improvement.
I've
complained
on
behalf
of
constituents,
I'm
not
even
really
in
my
district,
but
I
have
from
my
constituents
about
the
one
in
front
of
currently
obama
high
school.
It's
just
been
a
mess
for
years.
U
It's
a
high
traffic
area,
it
wasn't
being
tended
to
it
was
in
between
the
contract,
so
there
was
kind
of
nobody
in
charge
of
it,
and
you
know
I
can
think
of
a
lot
of
places
where
I
see
people
waiting
for
buses
where
they
a
shelter
would
be
fabulous,
but
there
is
none.
So
I
get
that
there's
a
balance
and
there's
kind
of
stress
on
both
sides
here,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
worth
this
point
like
why?
Don't
we
just
put
the
revenue
in
the
shade
tree
commission.
U
We
have
this
huge
goal
of
planting.
What,
like
I
don't
want
to
make
up
the
number
some
gargantua
we
have
a.
We
have
a
goal
from
the
administration
of
planting
thousands,
tens
of
thousands
of
trees.
How
many
trees
are
we
supposed
to
be
planting
city-wide
some
enormous
goal
and
we
don't
have
the
funds
for
it
and
that's
what
this
this
trust
fund's
for
and
I
certainly
have
damage
to
street
trees.
U
Street
trees
that
have
been
taken
out
by
storms
lately,
trees
that
are
at
the
end
of
their
life
cycle,
that
residents
are
upset
about
losing
their
trees,
because
you
know
we've
taken
them
down
and
not
replaced
them.
We
have
we
lean
on
non-governmental
partners
to
raise
funds
and
try
to
distribute
trees
and
people
have
to
sign
up
to
get
a
tree.
You
know,
there's
there's
demand,
we
have
big
goals
and
we
need
those
funds,
and
so
I
I
don't
think
I'm
ready
to
vote
for
this
today.
U
Certainly-
and
I
don't
want
to
hear
oh
well-
we
have
to
because
it's
an
emergency
because
we
have
to
sign
the
contract
so
because
this
is
a
big
change
and
I
don't
think
we
should
just
flip
it
through.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
That's
all
okay!
R
I
just
want
to
kind
of
distinguish
a
little
bit
and
director
paulus
can
can
correct
me
anything
that
I'm
saying
wrong,
but
the
execution
of
the
contract
is
the
contract
negotiations
that
went
into
that.
The
contractor
is
ambivalent.
I
would
say
as
to
which
account
we
deposit
the
the
contractually
required
minimums
that
they
provide
to
us.
So
I
don't
know
that
this
is
material
to
those
contract
negotiations.
We've
already
been
through
that
as
to
you
know
you,
you
must
pay
us
this
minimum.
R
You
know
this
is
the
share
of
additional
revenue,
sharing
that
you
need
to
to
provide
that's
what's
material
to
them,
and
these
are
the
performance
requirements
as
far
as
you
know,
state
of
good
repair
of
the
shelters
and
those
kinds
of
things,
that's
material
to
that
contract
as
to
which
account
this
goes
into
that's
not
necessarily
material
to
proceeding
with
the
the
shelter
maintenance
contract
which
again,
I
think
we
all
share
a
priority
in
in
getting
those
shelters
in
a
good
state
of
repair.
R
R
I
guess
now,
where
it
does,
that
zoning
makes
reference
to
a
mobility
fund
and
that's
sort
of
the
nexus
here
of
allowing
then
revenues
that
are
generated
from
mobility
assets
to
be
reinvested
above
and
beyond,
what's
necessary
for
the
shade
tree
maintenance,
which
is
also
important
to
mobility,
because
we
all
like
shade
when
we're
walking
on
our
streets.
R
So
there
is
that
nexus.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
up,
because
I
understand
this
is
all
it's
sweden's.
U
A
little
bit
me,
but
I
still
have
it's
been
so
hot
for
me,
but
I
still
have
to
stand
on
principle.
I
really
don't
like
this
precedent
and
I'm
not.
I
think
we
I'm
not
ready
to
be
comfortable
with
it
like
in
the
next
30
seconds
I'm
going
to
have
to
really.
I
think
we
need
to
think
carefully
before
we
start
allowing
what
looks
like
back
door
negotiations
for
changing
trust
fund
revenues.
U
And
again
you
know
the
the
point
of
having
the
trust
fund
is
that
we,
you
know
the
citizens
have
called
for
action.
We've
had
public
conversation,
it's
so
important.
We
set
it
up
as
a
trust
fund
instead
of
at
going
into
the
general
fund.
U
So
you
know
in
the
general
fund.
You
know
we
have
our
kind
of
annual
budget
and
then
you
guys
do
get
to
use
discretion
amongst
those
general
budget
categories,
even
though
there
are
very
many
budget
lines,
but
these
are.
These
are
highly
structured
trust
funds
for
a
reason.
U
Q
Q
S
C
Thank
you
any
further
members,
councilman
cochran.
E
Okay,
director,
let
me
get
this
straight
so
previously,
the
shell
income
from
from
the
shelters
to
the
shade
tree
has
been
80
000
annually.
E
R
Minimum
there's
actually
an
escalation
built
into
it,
and
so
oh
you're,
going
to
quiz
me
on
that
the
contract.
I
believe,
it's
years,
one
through
three
are
a
minimum
hundred
thousand
and
then
the
next
couple
of
years
to
go
up
to
150,
then
200
and
then
250..
It's
a
10-year
contract
with
two
five-year
options
to
renew.
If
they
do
good
performance
for
us.
So.
R
R
The
guaranteed
minimum
goes
up,
but
also
if
they,
if
the
advertising
on
those
shelters,
actually
yields
a
profit
beyond
what
the
kind
of
cash
flow
analysis
that
they
provided
to
us
for
the
contract
is
so
if
they
end
up
getting
a
million
dollars
more
in
a
year
than
what
they
anticipated
they
would
get.
E
Right
so
director,
as
it
currently
stands,
so
this
pay
tree
is
funded
by
whom
else
other
revenues,
where
what
other
revenues
just
just
shelter.
S
I
believe
there
is
a
component
of
city
planning
for
landscaping
zoning
requirements,
but
that
was
going
to
be
part
of
my
follow-up
to
all
the
members
that
set
up
the
authorizing
resolution
back
in
the
90s
or
the
80s.
I
believe
I
would
have
to
look
that
up
so.
T
I'm
trying
to
answer
the
question
on
the
revenues.
Besides
what
the
bus,
shelter
revenue
puts
into
the
shade
tree
trust
fund
whenever
the
city
forester
might
cite
somebody
for
illegal
tree
removal
for
the
value
of
those
trees.
Those
are
the
kind
of
revenues
that
go
into
the
shade
tree.
Trust
fund,
as
as
director
paulus
alluded
to
there's
a
city
planning
contingent
about
compliance,
and
I
forget
the
word
they
use
about
with
regards
to
development.
T
So
the
the
major
funder,
though,
for
the
shaitu
trust
fund,
is
the
bus,
shelter
revenue
and
I
believe
I
heard
a
question
earlier
about
what
was
the
balance
in
the
fund
kevin
can
allude
to
that.
But
I
think
it's
somewhere
near
to
the
right
now
about
380
000,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
committed
projects
to
be
spending
that
down.
E
Got
it
director
gabe?
Well
thanks
and
thanks
for
joining
in
so
so
when
we're
talking
about
other
revenues,
we're
not
talking
about
a
great
deal
of
revenue
other
than
the
shelters
that,
whereas
you
will
be
able
to.
S
Yeah,
the
shelter
revenue
does
account
for
the
lion's
share
of
the
revenue.
Yes,.
S
E
Okay,
you
know
it
all
makes
sense
to
me.
However,
I
do
understand
councilwoman
gross's
opinion
as
far
as
that
principle
goes
and
when
you're
looking
at
trust
funds
like
that,
so
so
yeah
I
would
be
happy
to
do
what
the
world
council
does
today.
Thanks.
O
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
I'll
be
brief.
The
clerk
was
kind
enough
to
send
around
the
resolution
that
we
asked
back
in
219.
the
first
years
for
years.
O
One
two:
three,
the
minimum
is
a
hundred
thousand
or
fifteen
percent
for
four
for
years,
four,
through
six,
it's
the
guaranteed
minimum
of
150
000
or
a
percentage
fee
of
17
for
years,
seven
through
ten,
it's
two
hundred
thousand
minimum
or
percentage
fee
of
twenty
percent,
and
then,
in
the
event
that
the
first
five-year
auction
is
exercised
for
each
year
of
that
extension,
the
contractors
should
pay
the
greater
annual
guaranteed
minimum
of
225,
000
or
20
of
the
fee,
and
then
on
the
second
renewal
it
would
be
250,
000
or
22
of
the
fee.
O
O
Revenue
distribution,
what
continues
to
make
me
uncomfortable
and
what
I
would
ask
I
could
vote
this
today
if
I
could
ask
that
we
tighten
up
the
language
around
the
ability
for
the
excess
to
go
into
the
general
fund,
but
rather
be
dedicated
more
to
infrastructure
types
of
improvement
that
are
around
mobility,
and
I
would
feel
infinitely
better
about
that.
C
Thank
you.
We
are
still
on
second
round
just
for
clarity
for
public
that
was
director
mike
gable,
who
was
also
joined.
The
conversation
councilman
gross.
U
Hi,
since
we
have,
I
think,
such
again
deliberative,
careful
conversation
in
creating
any
new
trust
funds.
In
fact,
council
has
before
my
time
kind
of
gone
through
trust
funds
and
like
cleaned
them
out,
they
really
are
supposed
to
be
in
the
trust
right.
So
that's,
I
think,
we're
being
too
cavalier
about
this.
U
U
These
are
big
important
issues
to
a
lot
of
citizens
who
put
forward
a
lot
of
effort
to
create
the
shade
tree
commission
right,
which
is
a
citizen
commission
and
then
to
create
the
trust
fund
for
to
be
expenditure,
that
there
should
be
a
public
discussion
about
this
like
a
public
hearing,
so
I
I
encourage
us
to
vote
to
hold
this
today.
U
I
again
director
rick's,
pointed
out.
This
is
also
a
very
sweet
spot
for
me
to
to
put
expenditures
into
pedestrian
safety.
U
Non-Car
modes
of
transportation,
especially
the
strip
district,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
river
activity
is
happening
in
that
river
zoning.
There
are
no
sidewalks,
there's
no
safety
lighting
street
lighting.
We
have
serious
pedestrian
issues,
we
need
crosswalks.
We've
got
a
lot
of
money
that
could
be
spent.
U
I
I
I
just
can't
in
good
conscience,
say
that
this
back
door
is
okay
without
a
lot
more
public
input.
I
do
appreciate
that
we
voted
on
this
in
2019.
I
don't
know
why
it
didn't
get
the
same
attention
from
me.
Then
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
look.
I
just
don't
recall,
and
it's
not
coming
up
on
me
here
today.
U
I
didn't
recognize
the
connection,
so
I
just
I
really
can't
vote
for
this
today
and
I
encourage
I
would
like
to
put
the
chair
like
to
motion
to
hold
or,
if
not,
I
will
I'm
in
the
chair
of
the
committee
councilman
coghill,
to
name
your
committee
motion
to
hold.
U
I
think
it
will
be,
and
that
would
we
could
have
clarity
whether
there
needs
to
be
more
public
input
or
not.
I
I
asked
for
the
director's
indulgence
here.
I
do
again
I
like
the
expenditure
honestly,
I
I'm
you
know,
I'm
comfortable
putting
more
money
into
mobility
and
I'm
glad
we
created
the
mobility
trust
fund.
It
was
an
important
part
of
the
river,
so
I
understand
the
tension
here,
but
if
you'll
work
with
us,
I
think
we
can
make
sure
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
bring
the
public
along
with
us.
E
Sure-
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
director,
you
know,
I
think
you
did
a
good
job.
I
guess
at
negotiating
an
extra
yeah.
B
E
000
a
year
and
you
know
to
see
the
importance
of
it.
However,
some
members
are
uncomfortable
with
it
and
being
a
trust
fund
as
councilman
gross
points
out
and
that
so
I
guess
two
weeks
aren't
gonna
kill
us.
I
motion
to
hold
for
two
weeks.
Second,.
C
A
Q
A
motion
to
approve
brief
discussion.
Second
I'd
like
to
ask
for,
I
believe
this
is
director
dash.
B
Q
Give
a
just
a
briefing
on
what
the
you
know.
What
this
study
would
do.
V
You
sorry
about
that
yeah.
So
this
was
a
recommendation
that
came
out
of
the
the
adopted
homewood
conference
community
plan.
We
saw
an
opportunity
to
find
you
know,
through
this
funding
program,
to
be
able
to
fund
that
project.
V
Q
Okay,
do
we
do
we
expect
that
this
would
be
how
it
would
add
to
the
adopt
a
law
program,
or
would
this
be
bigger
land
use
initiative
like
the
land
bank
like
where
would
this
study?
Where
would
this
help
us.
V
Well,
what
it's
going
to
do
is
it's
going
to
be
able
to
determine
the
the
next
stage
for
these
vacant
properties
in
homewood,
whether
that
is
through
an
adopted
you
know
through
you
know
something
that
might
be
held
for
a
little
bit
longer.
We
might
be
encouraging.
You
know
community
members
to
come
up
with
adopt-a-lot
proposals,
whether
that
is
coming
up
with
side
lot,
proposals
in
certain
cases
where
we
would
be.
V
You
know,
trying
to
work
with
adjacent
neighbors
to
sell,
especially
some
of
the
many
of
those
publicly
owned
vacant
properties
as
side
lots
or
where
we
would
be
looking
to
consolidate
properties
for
larger
developments,
specifically
where
the
plan
notes
that
you
know
are
places
like
north
homewood
avenue
or
on
you
know,
on
the
commercial
corridor
frankstown
where
there
are
where
there
is
a
you
know
there.
In
both
places,
there
are
significant
clusters
of
vacant
property,
all
right.
C
Q
C
Discussion,
council
members.
U
Thank
you,
I'm
also.
I
thank
you,
mr
you
know
mr
wilson
for
asking
for
the
clarification.
I'm
actually
really
glad
to
see
this
too.
So
we
that
we
have,
as
we've
talked
many
times,
we've
had
post
agenda
after
post
agenda
about
like
how
the
volume,
the
the
huge
volume
of
vacant
properties
that
we
have
and
yet
we've
only
been
acting
reactively
to
market
demand.
U
I
consider
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
proactive
planning
that
our
planning
department
can
do,
that
is
really
fruitful,
and
what
and
the
tool
on
the
other
end
about
how
to
dispose
of
them,
whether
that's
slam,
bank
helping
to
dispose
of
them
or
some
other
kind
of
partnerships
helping
to
utilize
them
or
whether
the
city
kind
of
allows
use
for
them,
but
retains
ownership
like
we've
done
in
some
cases,
is
you
know
we
can
discuss
once
we,
I
think,
when
we
put
the
horse
before
the
cart,
instead
of
the
cart
before
the
horse,
like
what
is
the
best
use
of
these
parcels
here,
and
so
I
really
like
this
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
this.
U
I
think
this
is
really
what's
needed
in
some
parts
of
the
city
that
are
really
suffering
from
the
high
numbers
of
vacant
property.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
thank
you.
W
I'll
say
a
little
something
about
this.
Certainly
I
support
it,
but
one
of
the
challenges
that
andrew
understands
is
that
part
of
the
pro
that
the
challenge
is.
We
have
the
right
size,
these
communities
right,
it's
not
just
that
we
have
vacant
parcels,
it's
that
we
have
so
many
vacant
parcels
in
a
variety
of
places,
they're
in
various
states
of
ownership,
that
many
that
we
can't
we
will
never
be
able
to
build
it
fast
enough.
So
and
it'll
probably
never
go
back
home.
It's
never
going
to
be.
W
You
know
it's
lost
80
percent
of
its
population.
It's
never
going
to
be
what
it
was
when
I
grew
up,
so
the
question
is
especially
now:
given
the
you
know,
the
kovic
19
stuff,
what
what
does
the
right
size
of
that
neighborhood
looks
like
right.
We
have
the
opportunity
now
to
put
more
green
space,
more
parks,
more
more
water
retention.
I
mean
we
can.
W
We
can
do
a
lot
of
things
if
we
just
think
of,
if
we're
just
very
thoughtful
about
it,
and
so
this
helps
us
to
be
thoughtful,
not
just
on
how
to
dispose
of
of
city
properties,
but
how
to
think
of
the
whole
neighborhood
in
in
this,
in
in
right-sizing
it
and
and
providing
additional
amenities.
Hopefully,
I've
said
that
right,
andrew.
I
think
that's
right,
though,.
V
No,
you
have,
and-
and
you
know
that's
really-
the
intent
of
this
study
is
to
is
to
move
the
recommendations
that
came
through
in
the
neighborhood
plan,
for
you
know
for
those
various
types
of
use,
whether
they
be
redevelopment
in
some
areas,
whether
it
be
open
space,
for
example,
in
an
area
north
lang
near
westinghouse,
there
was
a
recommendation
for
the
city
to
look
at
vacant
properties
for
open
space
in
those
those
areas,
a
lot
of
recommendations
around
stormwater
as
well.
V
So
absolutely
that's
the
intent
of
the
study
we,
you
know
in
noting
that
this
was
a
recommendation
of
the
plan
we
were,
you
know,
I
think,
able
to
you
know,
as
this
funding
opportunity
came
up
able
to
match
that
recommendation
of
the
plan,
this
funding
opportunity
and
that's
what
we're
bringing
before
you
today.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
coghill,.
E
Yes,
director
just
take
me
through
a
abandoned
property:
okay,
so
I'm
finding
out
through
a
program
I've
started
in
my
district.
Where
we're
you
know
trying
to
mow
the
grass
on
abandoned
properties.
Some
of
these
places
we
don't
know
where
the
owner
is,
we
don't
know
where
they
live
they're,
not
replying
to
citations
that
are
regularly.
You
know
mailed
to
them.
I
guess
they're
mailed
to
them.
I
don't
know
how
they
actually
go
about
citing
them.
So
if
they're
back
on
their
taxes
at
what
point
does
this
become
a
city
entity?
V
Well,
it
varies
and
the
the
the
actors
on
the
city
side,
you
know
kind
of
vary
for
those
things
as
well,
as
I'm
sure
that
you
know
I
mean
councilman
wilson
and
I've
had
a
number
of
these
conversations
and
councilman
gross,
and
I
have
had
a
number
of
these
conversations
dating
back
to
the
the
landbank
legislation
that
we
worked
on
back
in
2014..
So
you
know
you
know
when
it's
when
it's
something
that
is
delinquent
councilman
as
you
as
you
had
stated.
V
V
I
know,
there's
you
know
been
kind
of
ongoing
intermittent
discussions
around
the
land
bank
and
what
role
it
may
have
in
and
being
able
to
take
more
of
that
over
and
know
that
you
know
reverend
burgess,
you
know
probably
can
respond
more
to
to
the
land
bank
by
you
know.
I
believe
he
and
you
know
councilman
kale
smith-
are
on
the
board
of
the
land
bank
yeah.
So
but
right
now
it
is,
you
know
something
that
is
identified.
You
know,
department
of
finance
really
has
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
V
You
know
with
what
we're
proposing
here
and
you
know
with
other
work
that
we've
done
around
things
like
greenways
and
your
district
councilman.
You
know
where
we've
had
plans.
We've
tried
to
work
proactively
with
the
department
of
finance
in
the
real
estate
division
to
be
able
to
take
those
properties,
and
you
know
allow
the
city
to
have
rights.
You
know
to
ownership
for
it,
knowing
that
you
know
we
intend
to
have
it
for
some
purpose.
V
You
know
the
the
the
counter
to
that,
and
I
know
that
you
know
finance
department
would
be
more,
probably
better.
You
know
better
attuned
to
to
respond
than
I
am.
Is
you
know,
there's
always
the
the
balance
of
you
know,
taking
properties
through
the
treasure
sale
versus
the
city,
having
then
more
responsibilities
over
more
properties,
you
know
in
it.
You
know
in
its
portfolio,
so
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
E
Yeah,
you
know
I'll
give
you
an
example.
I
have
a
woman
who
lives
next
to
a
property.
We
can't
find
the
homeowner
they're
back
on
their
taxes.
She
would
love
to
buy
it
and
increase
the
size
of
her
yard.
It
seems
simple.
I
mean
it
really
seems
very,
very
simple.
Now
I'm
not
familiar
rev
with
the
land
bank
and
what
the
purpose
is
is
and
and
councilman
gross.
I
know
you've
helped
format.
E
It
seemed
like
a
really
great
idea
to
address
these
situations
and
then,
once
that
property
does
become
our
property,
then
what
do
we
do
with
it?
Because
I
feel
like
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
that
either.
So
so
is
this
what
the
land
bank
was
created
for
and
if
so
councilman
gross,
maybe
you
could
address
it
if
that's
what
it
was
created
for
and
rev,
if
you
could
address,
is
that
what
the
land
bank
is
taking
up
and
and
where
is
the
land
bank?
I
guess
is
a
big
question
for
me.
U
It
really
is
a
big
question.
I
think
councilman
burgess
has
spoken
to
this
as
the
chair
of
the
land
bank
before
recess
and
said
he
would
be
happy
to
brief
us.
So
maybe
we
we
can
take
this
offline
and
we
can
have
that
conversation
because
it
really
is
a
very
big
conversation,
but
I'm
always
happy
to
talk
about
these
issues
of
land
use.
So
any
time.
W
These
issues
are
extremely
complicated
because
the
state
has
not
done
us
any
favors.
The
problem
is
that
once
a
property
goes
delinquent
at
some
point,
the
city
puts
a
lien
against
the
property
and
when
you
read
it
on
the
county
website,
it
will
save
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
in
actuality
we
don't
own
the
property.
We
simply
have
put
a
lien
on
it.
The
original
owners
still
own
the
property
and
or
if
they
die,
they're
heirs,
and
so
in
order
to
clean
that
property.
W
There
is
an
expense,
and
there
is
probably
about
an
18-month
process
to
clear
that
title,
and
so
the
land
bank
scene
that
is
not
funded
with
the
probably
I
don't
know
the
numbers
somewhere
like
three
four
five
million
dollars.
It
would
take
a
year
to
start
cleaning
a
whole
bunch
of
these
properties
doesn't
do
that.
The
land
bank
is
really
designed
for
very
specific
small
small
activity,
primarily
for
community
groups
and
for
individual
people
to
develop.
W
We've
been
plagued
by
some
problems
with
state
law
and
some
other
things,
but
we
we
have
a
new
plan
which
I'm
again,
I
think
I'll
move
the
brief
council
privately
with
that.
We
think
we'll
expedite
this,
but
you
know
we've.
The
land
bank
is
not
really
designed
to
clean
all
this
land
like
in
homewood.
W
You
know
70
percent.
Some
number
like
that
and
andrew
conte
can
has
a
number
probably
better
than
me,
but
somewhere
like
60
to
70
of
the
lamb,
is
vacant
and
and
or
abandoned
most
of
it
not
owned
by
the
city,
although
much
many
of
it
leaned
by
the
city
actually
not
owned
by
the
city
and
so
the
just
in
just
in
homewood.
There
are
some
some
huge
number,
I
think,
maybe
three
thousand
p
parcels
some
number
like
that,
so
it
it
did
the
price
I
think
citywide
may
be
eleven
thousand.
W
W
What
other
states
and
counties
have
done
that
can
work
have
been
a
little
bit
more
draconian
right
where,
if
you're,
two
years
behind
on
your
taxes,
the
city
takes
it
automatically,
and
I
mean
there
are
other.
There
are
other
ways.
It's
just
it's
a
a
combination
of
state
law
and
lack
of
resources
make
this
very
challenging.
W
Just
in
homewood
alone.
We
would
not
that
we
would
almost
bankrupt
the
city
simply
trying
to
clean
all
the
titles
in
homewood
and
because
many
of
them,
you
know,
are
just
someone
lived
in
it.
They
left
the
house
may
or
may
have
gotten
torn
down
by
the
city.
The
heirs
may
or
may
not
have
claimed
the
property,
and
it
just
it's
just
sitting
there
in
legal
limbo.
So
there's
still,
you
know,
was
a
conservatory.
W
There
are
other
tools
that
we
have,
but
they're
just
it
has
been.
It
is
a
very,
very
expensive
and
difficult
problem
to
have,
and
so
I
again
offline,
let's
kind
of
take
this
up
I'll
share
with
you.
What
we've
tried
to
do,
we
think
makes
sense
and
and
and
what
we
should
do
moving
forward
and
now.
Hopefully,
I've
explained
that
process
mr
coghill.
In
a
way
that
brings
a
little
bit
more
clarity.
E
Okay,
thank
you
councilman
burgess.
That
does
clear
things
up.
I
didn't
realize
for
starters,
that
it's
just
a
lien
and
we
don't
have
the
deed
to
the
property.
So
naturally
we
cannot
sell
the
property.
So
there
is
a
problem
as
far
as
I
can
see
it,
and
it's
funny.
I
was
talking
to
chief
gilman
just
the
other
day
and
I
was
showing
them
pictures
of
you
know
the
properties
where
we've
been
kind
of
mowing
the
grass
and
seeing
these
houses
behind
it
and
they're
actually
really
good
houses
with
really
good
bones.
E
They've
not
been
attended
to
for
years
and
years,
and
you
know
they'll
continue
to
grow
again
and
we'll
have
to
go
back
and
cut
the
grass
again.
I
guess
it
seems
like
we
need
to
focus
our
efforts
toward.
You
know
that
homeowner
and
getting
them
in
a
position
where
they
need
to
sell
this
property.
I
mean
the
buyers
are
there.
These
are
nice
homes
and
nice
neighborhoods,
and
it
seems
simple
on
the
surface
but
yeah.
I
guess
what
we
have
in
place
doesn't
seem
to
be
working.
E
W
Let
me
tell
you
another
problem:
that's
why
we're
having
this
conversation,
at
least
in
my
community,
because
the
city
will
not
maintain
the
property.
If
it
does
not
own
it,
the
land
bank,
it
won't
either
I
mean
once
we
once
we,
unlike
the
city.
If
the
land
bank
owns
it,
we
have
to
maintain
it,
which
is
why
we're
slow
to
take
properties,
because
state
law
forces
us
to
shovel
the
snow
cut.
The
grass
bore
up
the
house,
you
know
we're
forced
to
maintain
it.
W
W
You
know,
there's
groundhogs
rodents,
all
sorts
of
things
here,
you
know
in
in
new
york
and
bringing
down
the
quality
of
life
of
those
residents.
They
call
me
that's
the
number
one
call
I
get.
You
know
it's
not
violence,
it's
not
the
number
one
call
my
office
gets
is
vacant
and
abandoned
yards
because
we
don't
have
the
manpower
to
cut
them.
So
we
don't
cut
them,
we
don't
shovel
the
snow
and
so
the
quality
of
life.
W
If
we
were
able-
and
I
have
this
again-
I
think
about
this
all
the
time
any
blocking
homework.
Anyone
pick
any
block
if
we
were
able
to
tear
down
every
abandoned
building,
claim
the
lots
put
fences
around
it.
You
would
change
the
quality
of
life
of
those
residents
by
90
right
90,
but
we
just
don't
have
the
resources
to
do
it
and
it's
really
a
problem.
W
At
least
it
is
the
number
one
problem
in
my
district
because
I
have
so
much
of
it
is
that
I
have
all
these
lots
and
people
think
the
city
owns
it.
They
scream
and
yell
at
me
as
to
why
I'm
not
getting
public
works.
We
did
have
at
one
point
the
I
guess
it
was
the
rate
of
crew.
W
Maybe
that
would
go
on
public
private
lots
anyway
and
just
cut,
but
we
don't
so
much
have
that,
although
president
smith
has
some
initiatives,
but
this
is
the
number
one
problem,
especially
in
low-income
neighborhoods,
these
these
abandoned
homes,
these
vacant
lots
that
are
not
maintained.
W
The
city
doesn't
own
they're
in
they're
in
flux,
and
they
are
really
bringing
down
the
quality
of
life
for
those
residents,
and
I
you
know,
I
think,
that's
that
if
I
had
the
magic
wand,
even
more
than
rebuilding
houses
or
even
fixing
up
new
houses,
if
I
could
figure
out
a
way
to
maintain
all
the
abandoned
and
vacant
lots,
even
just
board
them
up,
you
know
just
board
them
up
and
make
them
safe.
That's
what
my
dream
would
look
like
and
it's
just
we
have
not
figured
out
it's
expensive.
E
Rev,
it's
funny
that
you
say
that's
your
number
one
complaint.
It
has
been
high
on
my
radar
screen
as
well.
Throughout
my
neck
rodents
rats
feel
nice,
you
name
it.
It
really
becomes
a
public
health
issue
as
much
as
anything
and
that's
why
I've
taken
upon
myself,
because
I
was
so
frustrated
that
you
know
I
now
have
a
kind
of
like
a
little
landscaping
company
going
over
here
addresses
and
the
people
couldn't
be
happier-
and
I
couldn't
be
happier
is
such
an
eyesore
weeds
grow
out
into
the
street.
They
grow
over
the
sidewalk.
E
They
block
the
traffic
coming.
There's
rats,
mice,
your
name,
so
it
is
very
frustrating
to
me.
I'm
fortunate,
we're
you
know,
I'm
paying
for
it
out
of
my
own
funds,
so
I
found
an
avenue
to
take
care
of
it,
but
and
they
just
keep
rolling
in
I
mean
you
wouldn't
believe
we're
we're
at
30,
plus
properties
and
we've
not
even
hit
a
fraction
of
the
phone
calls.
E
So
so
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
in
the
future
and
trying
to
find
out
how
we
can
you
know
this
and
at
least
maintain
these
lots,
because
it's
a
major
problem
for
you.
I
didn't
realize
that
it
was
a
big.
Your
number
one
complaint,
probably
mine
as
well,
so
you
know
I
can't
go
on
paying
for
it
forever.
So
you
know
I'm
gonna
eventually
run
out
of
funds
myself.
So
thanks.
C
Q
Motion
to
hold
for
cable
cast
public
hearing
zoom
hearing.
U
Q
N
U
U
C
Any
opposed
bill
will
be
held
for
cablecast
public
hearing
that
takes
us
to
the
urban
recreation
committee,
chaired
by
reverend
burgess
bill
621.
A
Bill
621
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
enter
on
behalf
of
the
city
into
an
agreement
with
allegheny
county
department
of
human
services
for
the
city's
operation
of
the
senior
community.
Centers
said
agreement
shall
be
for
a
term
of
one
year.
It
will
foster
the
city
with
compensation
not
to
exceed
780
783
450.
A
Bill
622
resolution
authorizing
the
issue:
one
of
a
warrant
in
favor
of
dhs
ocr
keys,
service
corp
and
an
amount
not
to
exceed
25
000
for
the
payment
of
the
2019
americorps
keys
summer
program,
which
provides
funding
for
hosting
17
youth
to
participate
in
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation,
educational
program
and
jobs
training
for
the
summer.
The
americorps
members
who
participated
in
this
program
worked
alongside
city
park
staff
to
support
the
multi-site
summer
camps
and
providing
for
the
payment
thereof.
W
A
Bill
623
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
execute
relevant
agreement
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
national
recreation
and
park
association
to
provide
emergency
funding
readily
for
costs
incurred
by
the
city's
summer
food
program
due
to
the
coronavirus
and
further
providing
for
the
agreement
and
expenditures
not
to
exceed
ten
thousand
dollars.
C
A
Bill
633
resolution
authorizing
the
city
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
allegheny
clean
ways
to
grant
a
license
to
allegheny
clean
ways
to
enter
into
certain
city-owned
parcels
in
order
to
perform
certain
work,
including
assessment
and
removal
of
litter
and
illegal
dumping.
This
agreement
will
also
allow
out
access
to
certain
department
of
public
works,
division
facilities
by
allegheny,
clean
ways
for
disposal
of
collected
litter
and
illegal
dumping.
C
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
B
O
U
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
council
councilwoman.
I
think
this
is
in
shady
side
or
is
this
councilman
burgess's
district,
I'm
not
sure
which
this.
B
G
U
So
I'm
going
to
motion
to
hold
three
weeks,
but
can
I
mention
to
a
private
discussion?
First
sorry,
I
need.
U
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
explain
to
council
again
that
this
is
one
of
this
is
the
massive
building
that's
being
proposed.
You
might
have
seen
in
the
newspapers
right
across
the
street
from
lydia's
the
old
woolies
fish,
refrigeration,
building
the
big
concrete
one.
It's
controversial.
It
just
had
its
first
briefing
at
planning
that
made
the
newspapers.
It
has
not
even
had
a
public
hearing
at
the
planning
commission
yet
so
they
haven't
even
discussed
the
building
yet
so
this
is
very
early.
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
U
This
is
very
early
in
its
approval
process,
so
I've
been
waiting.
We
had
this
discussion
before
recess
with
confusion
about
the
order
and
sequence
of
bills
and
sewer
modules,
and
we
had
been
in
discussion
with
the
director
of
city
planning,
councilman
wilson,
councilman
smith
and
myself
asked
for
an
explanation,
he's
kind
of
working
on
putting
a
memo
together
and
a
meeting
together
with
us
to
figure
out
what
is
the.
Why
is
the
sequencing
changed
between
departmental
approvals
and
law
and
this
path,
development
path
with
the
sphere
module?
E
A
A
U
U
I'm
happy
to
support
the
sewer
module
if
you're
supportive
of
the
project
does
she
have
to
leave
us
again.
You
know
I'll
just
I'll.
Go
I'm
happy
to
pass
this
and
if
she
has
any
problems
with
it
or
if
we
figure
out
that
there's
any
problem
with
the
development
approvals,
we
can
always
recommit
it
on
tuesday.
So
that's
all
so.
I
already
motioned
to
approve
so.
C
Okay,
any
further
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
bill
is
recommended
that
does
exhaust
our
agenda.
We
have
a
couple
meeting
announcements:
council
will
meet
for
their
regular
legislative
meeting
next
tuesday
september,
8th
at
10
a.m.
Council
will
meet
for
a
pre-agenda
interviews
next
wednesday
september,
9th
at
9
30
a.m.
With
the
standing
committee
meeting
to
commence
immediately
following
at
10.
C
also
next
wednesday,
at
6
00
p.m,
council
will
hold
a
cable
cast
public
hearing
on
bill,
618
a
petition
relative
to
the
installation
of
roundabouts
on
reynolds
street
aka
the
neighbor
away
to
register
to
speak.
Please
call
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138
by
9am,
tuesday
and
wednesday
for
the
regular
and
steady
committee
meetings
and
call
by
4
30
p.m,
wednesday
for
public
hearings.
You
may
also
submit
written
testimony
by
email
to
the
city
clerk's
office
at
pittsburgh.
Pa.Gov.