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Description
Mayor Peduto's Office / Office of Equity / City Controller
A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council's
reconvened
budget
meetings,
budget
hearings,
we're
joined
today
by
mayor
peduto
and
his
team
he'll
introduce
them
shortly,
we'll
begin
with
our
budget
director
for
city
council,
billboard
bannik,
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
and
mike
have
been
doing.
A
We'll
begin
with
you
to
give
a
brief
intro
into
the
mayor's
budget.
Sure
thank
you.
B
B
The
office
develops
and
leads
a
customer
friendly
and
efficient
workforce
and
is
responsive
to
the
diverse
needs
of
the
community.
The
mayor's
office
also
provides
leadership
on
economic
development
policy
and
job
creation.
It
advocates
for
economic
development
by
ensuring
that
government
programs,
policies
and
activities
are
appropriately
synchronized
to
provide
a
climate
favorable
to
business,
job
creation
and
home
ownership.
B
The
office
of
the
mayor
provides
direction
and
encouragement
for
a
culture
of
continuous
improvement
in
the
services
and
processes
of
government.
To
that
end,
there
is
specific
attention
to
cost
containment
and
an
open,
accessible
and
transparent
government.
B
We
have
this
year,
some
numbers
that
we
sent
out
to
everyone,
and
this
is
specific
just
to
the
mayor's
office's
budget,
not
citywide
the
total
budget
for
the
mayor's
office
this
year
and
the
2021
proposal
is
one
million
148
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
decrease
of
what
was
anticipated
in
last
year's
five-year
plan.
B
That
decrease
is
317,
000,
total
full-time
positions,
13,
that's
a
reduction
of
one
and,
as
you
know,
we
have,
as
we've
been
speaking,
we're
speaking
specifically
about
reductions
in
this
budget
reductions.
In
the
first
six
months
of
the
year,
one
of
two
assistant
chiefs
of
staff
have
been
eliminated:
office
of
manager,
upper
office
manager,
swapped
for
local
and
community
relations
coordinator.
B
B
If
we
don't
get
any
additional
funding
in
that
workforce
reduction
is
190
884,
based
on
the
average
salaries
and
benefits
of
current
employees
that
equals
the
elimination
of
four
employees
within
the
mayor's
office
in
anticipated,
workforce
reductions
in
the
mayor's
office
and
office
of
equity
are
forty
percent
higher
than
they
are
in
other
bureaus
and
departments.
B
The
mayor's
public
service
grants,
foreign
ulo
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
that's
a
decrease
of
75
000
from
2020
and
a
total
of
400
000
from
that
200
2016
capital
budget,
the
mayor
and
mayor's
office,
oversees
98
of
the
operating
budget,
the
entirety
of
the
capital
budget
and
95
of
the
trust
funds,
and
those
are
the
numbers
that
I
have
for
you
with
that.
If
I
can
hand
it
back
to
you,
president
smith,
thank.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
count
to
mayor
peduto
after
I
make
sure
that
I
acknowledge
we're
joined
by
councilman
level,
who's,
the
chair
of
finance
and
law,
councilwoman,
strasberger,
councilman,
krauss
and
councilwoman
gross
and
if,
as
other
members
joined,
we'll
make
sure
we
announce
them
good
morning.
Mayor.
D
C
You
well
thanks
for
having
us.
I
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
talking
about
this
year.
I
mean
it's
been
an
historic
year.
Obviously,
with
a
number
of
issues
that
have
come
up,
we
have
struggled
with
a
global
pandemic
that
now
has
left
us
with
almost
200
public
safety
employees
quarantined
or
actually
testing
positive
for
covid.
C
C
Now
that
is
compounded
by
the
fact
of
2020
being
a
year
of
great
recognition
of
racial
injustice
and
dealing
with
over
100
protests
throughout
this
year
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
also
dealing
with
the
realities
of
what
is
needed
in
order
to
create
a
city
government
that
is
cognizant
of
it
and
is
being
aggressive
in
the
proactive
ways
that
we
can
do
more
to
be
able
to
limit
the
amount
of
disparity.
As
you
know,
our
report
last
year
was
the
benchmark
report
to
be
able
to
show
where
disparity
exists.
In
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
C
We
ripped
the
band-aid
off,
and
we
said
there
is
a
problem,
and
this
is
how
it
is
identified
over
the
course
of
the
past
year.
I'm
proud
to
say,
we've
been
able
to
work
with
the
gender
equity
commission
in
order
to
be
able
to
follow
their
recommendations
in
order
to
be
able
to
lessen
that
it
will
be
a
constant
battle.
It
will
be
one
that
will
be
fought
throughout
a
lifetime,
not
one
that
will
be
thought
and
fought
throughout
a
year.
C
But
at
that
same
time
we
have
made
great
strides
and
we
can
put
our
administration
up
against
any
in
this
country
about
the
amount
of
progressive
programs
in
the
amount
of
resources
being
utilized
in
order
to
address
it.
Finally,
we
face
an
economic
crisis.
Three
crises
simultaneously
that
we
have
to
address.
C
C
C
Lastly,
we
are
also
facing
an
economic
crisis
within
certain
industries
within
our
city,
and
these
industries
are
run
by
the
people.
We
call
our
neighbors.
We
recognize
that
what
they
are
going
through
through
this
crisis
can
only
be
rectified
through
direct
assistance
in
helping
to
bridge
the
opportunities
over
these.
C
I've
asked
my
staff
to
be
able
to
present
the
the
minutia
of
the
the
budget
itself
and
then
to
present
after
they
have
been
able
to
talk
about
the
personnel
and
the
other
costs
to
funding
a
mayor's
office,
a
greater
vision
and
then
taking
your
questions
as
well.
So,
council
president.
I
would
like
to
now
turn
it
over
to
my
chief
of
staff,
dan
gilman.
A
E
You,
madam
president,
and
esteemed
council
members,
it's
always
a
pleasure
to
quote
unquote,
be
with
you
whatever.
This
is
from
from
my
dining
room
to
yours.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
the
office
of
the
mayor.
E
I
will
leave
the
office
of
equity,
which
we'll
do
as
a
separate
conversation,
though
we
obviously
work
as
sister
organizations
working
closely
together
and
we
do
have
deputy
chief
of
staff
majestic
lane
and
assistant
chief
of
staff
lindsey
powell
on
as
well
as
the
mayor
said
in
director
urbanic
outlined
since
we
were
before
you
a
year
ago,
gloria
farooz
and
our
office
manager,
retired
and
grant
gitlin,
who
was
an
assistant
chief
of
staff,
took
a
position
outside
of
the
city
and
with
that
we
hired
hirsch
marenstein
as
our
local
government
and
community
affairs
coordinator.
E
E
I
also
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
during
the
covid
economic
crisis,
the
mayor
has
been
very
clear
as
a
directive
to
all
of
us
that
we
follow.
You
know
the
north
star
of
people's
safe
health
and
safety
first
and
protecting
people.
E
That's
obviously
been
seen
through
the
outstanding
work
by
public
safety
director,
his
rick
chief,
romano,
chief,
pinchock
and
others
in
in
covet
preparedness
and
response,
as
well
as
the
great
work
by
departments
across
the
city
and
all
especially
recognized
parks
and
recreation,
who
you
know,
have
fed
over
a
quarter
of
a
million
meals
to
needing
seniors
and
children
in
something
that's
not
there,
their
function
or
their
usual
job,
but
responding
to
to
the
moment
in
need
and
doing
it
incredible
work
by
laura
jorgowski,
who
was
in
the
mayor
office
of
equity
and
will
now
run
ochs
in
response
to
the
needs
of
homelessness
and
housing.
E
Insecure
populations
during
covid
and
overall,
a
city-
and
you
know
I
think
this
gets
overlooked.
Sometimes,
as
all
of
you
well
know,.
B
E
Government
doesn't
and
government
isn't
always
the
most
nimble
of
organizations,
but
we
very
quickly
everybody
took
an
entire
city
government
and
put
it
online
in
a
huge
amount
of
credit
to
inp
to
city
planning,
pli
and
departments
who
allowed
development
to
continue
and
building
permits,
to
continue,
despite
no
in-person
to
hr,
which
did
everything
from
hiring
and
testing
to
payroll
services
without
being
in
the
office
and
going
online.
E
It's
really
been
a
tremendous
accomplishment
and
amazing
what
our
our
3
500
ish
city
employees,
have
been
able
to
do
and,
of
course,
those
who
are
still
on
the
front
lines
daily.
While
I
you
know
stay
inside,
we
know
we
have
employees
across
departments
who
are
out
in
the
streets,
keeping
us
safe
and
healthy,
but
also
in
the
building,
doing
essential
services
to
make
sure
checks
get
deposited
and
checks
get
written,
and
certainly
in
great
coordination
with
controller
lamb
in
his
office
to
make
sure
that
the
government
keeps
working
with
that.
E
We
ordered
every
single
department,
including
the
mayor's
office,
to
cut
non-personnel
costs
by
10
percent
during
the
year
to
help
start
cutting
back.
We
also
did
a
what
I
call
a
semi
hiring
freeze
at
the
time
we
froze
about
80
positions
in
the
budget
things
we
deemed
that
could
wait.
We
did
not
do
an
entire
hiring
freeze,
as
there
was
a
need
to
proceed
with
certain
hirings
like
a
partial
fire
class,
some
paramedic
positions,
some
laborers
and
a
couple
other
critical
roles
going
forward.
E
E
City
workers
are
our
families
we
are
in
this
together,
and
these
are
employees
who
are
dedicating
themselves
to
public
service
at
a
time
of
great
need,
and
we've
done
everything
possible
and
we're
one
of
few,
if
not
only
cities
in
the
entire
united
states.
Who
can
stand
up
and
say
that
we
have
kept
every
city
worker
on
and
every
city
worker
insured
with
health
insurance
through
this
difficult
time,
and
that
continues
to
remain
our
focus
to
do
that.
What
we
did
in
the
budget
is
we
eliminated
the
vast
majority
of
vacant
positions.
E
We,
of
course,
have
to
take
the
vacant
positions
out.
Not
just
have
the
hiring
freeze,
because
we
must
present
to
you
a
balanced
budget,
and
one
thing
we
will
not
do
is
provide
you
a
budget
with
fake
pretend
revenues,
as
was
done
in
the
past,
and
drove
the
city
to
act
47
in
in
the
late
90s
and
early
2000s.
E
So
we
will
provide
you
a
true
and
honest
balanced
budget,
which
means
our
expenditures
must
match
our
revenues.
So
we
start
with
what
our
revenue
projections
are,
that
I
believe,
have
been
certified
by
the
controller
and
we
go
from
there
to
to
get
our
expenditures
down
and
to
do
that.
E
You've
got
to
take
positions
off
the
books,
so
we
eliminated
vacant
positions
because
that's
difficult
and
as
critical
as
many
of
those
positions
are
key
roles
as
building
inspectors,
critical
roles
in
domi
who
are
working
on
safety
and
infrastructure,
critical
roles
within
the
mayor's
office
or
eorc,
or
I
know
city
council
as
well
who,
who
has
participated,
very
critical
roles,
but
the
bottom
line
is
they're
vacant
and
the
mayor
has
it's
been
very
clear.
E
As
the
mayor
noted,
we
are
in
daily
communication
with
washington,
whether
it
be
through
our
lobbyist,
terry
huber,
who
does
amazing
work
on
the
ground
for
us
every
day,
working
the
halls
in
congress
or
the
mayor's
direct
communication
with
the
biden,
transition
team
or
our
work
with
the
us
conference
of
mayors
and
national
league
of
cities
and
other
organizations
to
not
only
push
for
funding
for
local
city
and
state
government,
but
also
funding
for
our
needed
businesses.
E
We
also
have
been
lobbying
with
the
understanding
of
a
new
administration
coming
in
and
looking
at
a
potential
infrastructure
bill
or
stimulus
package
to
make
sure
that
the
city's
needs
are
at
the
top
of
the
list
and
if
we
have
shovel
ready
projects
to
lobby
for
inclusion.
E
At
the
same
time,
we
are
keeping
our
finger
on
the
pulsa
of
the
likelihood
of
a
hero's
act
or
amended
heroes
act
being
passed.
President-Elect
biden
has
been
very
clear
not
only
with
with
mayors
and
cities,
but
on
national
television
that
his
top
priority
coming
in
is
getting
this
passed,
and
we
feel
as
confident
as
one
can
when
talking
about
washington,
that
the
president
and
the
democratic
congress
are
pushing
to
have
it
done.
E
Of
course,
we
have
a
republican
senate
who
has
expressed
reservations
about
these
bills
and
the
size
of
them,
but
I
feel
optimistic
that
by
july
first
something
will
happen
and
we'll
be
able
to
avoid
the
very
concerning
layoff
furloughs
that
would
have
to
occur
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
if
we
get
there.
E
If
we
do
hit
that
point-
as
I
think
you
know
from
your
other
budget
hearings,
that
equates
to
roughly
ten
and
a
half
percent
of
personnel
costs
to
be
clear,
that
the
budget
is
on
the
personnel
side
and
it's
ten
and
a
half
percent
in
every
department
and
the
mayor
has
said
that
we'll
cut
the
mayor's
office
by
15,
so
we'll
lead
with
deeper
cuts
percentage-wise
from
our
budget
than
we
ask
any
other
department
to
do.
E
At
the
same
time,
the
mayor
noted
our
work
in
harrisburg
again
thanks
to
our
great
lobbyist
in
harrisburg,
pj,
lavell
and
john
malady,
and
really
leadership
from
you
know
our
entire
delegation,
but
working
very
closely
with
jay
costa,
our
senate
major
minority
leader,
working
on
a
number
of
different
initiatives.
E
We
successfully
and
appreciate
council
support
were
able
to
get
some
laws
changed
that
protected
us
financially
on
pwsa
and
allowed
the
co-op
that
city
council
passed
to
be
codified
into
law
which
saved
the
city
10
to
20
million
dollars
in
the
upcoming
year,
and
that
was
great
work
by
the
team.
I
talked
about
in
harrisburg
and
we're
also
working
to
start
to
look
at
new
revenue.
What
is
a
revenue
model
in
a
post-covered
world
for
cities,
whether
it
just
be
pittsburgh
or
be
cities
across
pennsylvania?
E
What
should
a
tax
structure
look
like
that
shows
greater
resilience
than
what
we've
seen
in
the
past,
and
we
continue
to
have
that
conversation.
Of
course,
we'll
not
see
those
new
revenues
for
a
2021
budget,
but
we're
optimistic
we'll
have
some
new
options
for
2022
and
preparing
the
city
better
for
the
future,
which
is
something
we've
been
focused
on
coming
out
of
act,
47
and
working
with
city
council
to
be
financially
responsible
and
build
up
100,
plus
million
dollar
surplus.
That
allowed
us
to
get
to
this
point.
E
Imagine
where
we
would
be
as
a
city
if
council
and
mayoral
leadership
hadn't
been
in
control,
I
want
to
make
sure
controller.
Lamb
has
been
a
great
a
champion
with
us
on
these
efforts
to
be
a
financially
responsible
government,
be
properly
investing
in
our
pension,
but
also
properly
investing
in
our
rainy
day
fund
and
it
it's
pouring.
So
I'm
glad
we
have
our
rainy
day
fund.
E
It's
been
a
very
important
piece,
but
we
also
been
setting
up
the
city
for
the
future
in
terms
of
investment
in
areas
that
you
can
see,
feel
and
touch,
and
those
that
you
can't
heavy
investment
thanks
to
council
support
in
last
year's
budget
in
the
innovation
and
performance
to
start
fixing
our
network
rewiring
our
buildings,
getting
the
station
alerting
for
our
fire
and
ems
head
buildings
with
diesel
exhaust
systems
trying
to
redo
our
rec
centers
for
our
rec
to
tech
program.
E
E
We
also
been
investing
in
the
infrastructure.
You
see-
and
I
know
many
of
you
and
your
districts
have
seen
the
work,
whether
it's
our
parks
and
ball
fields.
It's
our
vision:
zero
by
investing
in
traffic
signal
improvements,
bike
infrastructure,
critical
sidewalk
gaps
in
our
low
to
moderate
income
communities,
record
investment
in
landslides
across
the
city,
step
and
wall
repair,
we're
rebuilding
pittsburgh,
quite
literally
from
decades
of
lack
of
investment
and
climate
change,
and
then,
lastly,
I'll
say
with
climate
change.
E
It's
investing
in
the
future
there
with
the
adoption
of
our
unsdgs
and
our
2030
goals,
it's
planning
a
resilient
city
for
the
future
that
can
address
these
concerns
economically
and
from
a
climate
perspective
to
make
sure
pittsburgh
is
doing
its
part
globally
to
set
up
a
progressive
resilient
future
for
this
city
and
for
the
residents
with
that.
E
F
Nothing
relevant
to
the
the
office
of
the
mayor,
other
than
to
say,
chief,
that
I
think
you
know
the
leadership
of
the
the
mayor
and
the
leadership
of
the
decisions
we've
made.
Dealing
with
the
confluence
of
these
crises
have
been
some
that
we've
had
to
really
adjust
and
be
nimble
and
adapt,
and
I
think
to
echo
your
statements.
A
G
Absolutely
lindsay
powell
assistant
chief
of
staff,
largely
I
work
on
legislation
and
policy
running
that
team.
That
works
closely
with
the
office
of
equity,
so
good
to
see
everyone.
A
We're
going
to
take
well
we're
going
to
take
questions
from
members,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know
that,
where
you
will
do
the
office
of
equity
and
the
controller
following
these
questions
from
the
mayor's
office
directly,
and
so
with
that
said,
I
also
want
to
add
that
we're
joined
by
councilman,
coghill
and
councilman
wilson,
along
with
gross
krause
and
lavelle
and
we'll
start
with
councilman
lavalle,
since
he
chairs
the
committee
councilman
lavelle.
Do
you
have
any
questions.
D
Welcome
it's
been
a
challenging
year
to
say
the
very
least
and
my
my
question
is
it's
ongoing,
but
no
less
important
mayor?
Are
you
still
with
us?
I
don't
have
all
my
there.
You
are
hi.
D
H
D
You
brought
up
about
revenues
and
consistency
and
revenues
and
sustainability
and
revenues,
and
I
know
you've
had
some
conversations
with
the
incoming
administration,
which
is
wonderful
news
and
I'm
extremely
encouraged
that
there
will,
god
willing,
come
a
time
that
there
will
be
packages,
financial
packages
for
cities
like
pittsburgh,
to
keep
us
from
having
to
lay
off
any
city
employees
and
that's
that's
greatly
encouraging.
D
But
once
again,
that's
that's
a
revenue
source,
that's
not
sustainable
long
term,
and
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
sustainability
in
creating
revenue,
which
is
a
topic
you
broach,
which
I
I
really
like
do
do
we
have
options
or
can
you
think
of
options
or
suggest
options
for
continuing
or
sustainable
revenue?
That
does
not
necessarily
include
this
partnership
between
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
nonprofit.
D
We
have
you
well
you've
been
here
for
a
very
long
time
as
well.
I've
been
here
13
years.
We
have
struggled
to
create
that
ongoing
partnership
with
with
nonprofits.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
want
to
go
there.
But
beyond
that,
can
you
suggest
or
ways
that
we
collectively
as
elected
leaders,
can
seek
out
and
encourage
and
secure
additional
sources
of
sustainable
revenues.
C
Yeah
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
absolutely
necessary
as
we
look
to
building
future
city
of
pittsburgh,
our
revenue
structure
does
not
represent
the
pittsburgh
of
today.
It
is
more
a
snapshot
of
pittsburgh
in
1950
and
what
we
did
during
act.
47
was
the
beginning
of
a
process
that
I
believe
needs
to
be
completed.
C
The
conversations
and
I'll
ask
dan
to
talk
more
directly
with
the
big
four
with
the
upmc
allegheny
health
network,
highmark,
carnegie,
mellon
and
pitt
that
represents
around
80
percent
of
all
of
the
nonprofit,
either
property
or
wages
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
they
should
be
addressed
independently
of
the
other
nonprofits
within
the
city,
looking
toward
them
to
be
able
to
provide
a
relief
valve
basically
to
what
our
present
tax
structure
is
not
only
fair.
C
It
is
also
contingent
upon
this
city
being
able
to
pay
its
bills
in
the
future
without
driving.
The
people
who
live
here
out
and
our
conversations
over
the
past
several
years
have
been
able
to
identify
47
different
areas
where
we
could
work
together
in
creating
a
more
robust
city
that
recognizes
where
disparity
exists.
Under
a
plan.
C
That's
been
dubbed
one
pgh,
but
as
of
yet
the
financing
of
that
has
not
come
through
so
now,
it
becomes
relevant
that
we
look
towards
harrisburg
in
working
with
harrisburg,
to
provide
us
the
tools
in
order
to
be
able
to
secure
revenue
from
our
non-profit
large
institutions
to
be
able
to
do
this,
we've
incorporated
and
hired
a
firm
out
of
philadelphia
that
has
been
creating
a
simulator
so
that
the
public
will
be
given
a
tool
to
be
able
to
look
at
all
the
options
that
are
presently
available
through
state
law
and
it's
important
for
anybody
who's
watching
who
it's
part
of
the
public.
C
C
But
if
you're
making
money
through
the
market
which
has
taken
off
in
which
why
the
state
is
not
facing
the
same
problems
we're
facing
because
they're
able
to
tax
that
income
as
well,
can
we
then
lower
our
wage
tax
in
the
city
or
income
tax
in
the
city?
And
then
what
would
that
number
look
like
if
we
were
to
raise
property
tax
by
a
half
a
mill,
but
then
increase
the
homestead
exemption?
C
What
if
we
were
able
to
create
a
wage
tax
that
had
an
exemption
for
the
first
12
thousand
dollars
you
paid
so
people
who
make
12,
000
or
left
pay
nothing
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
create
a
very
progressive
system?
What
would
that
bottom
line
look
like
and
then
being
able
to
look
at
all
of
the
different
options,
including
the
non-profits?
C
What
would
the
entire
situation?
Look
like
our
goal
is
to
have
that
simulator
presented
to
city
council
with
a
full
post
agenda
before
the
end
of
this
year
and
be
able
to
allow
you
then
to
start
the
process
and
to
take
it
to
the
community
and
to
see
what
type
of
tax
structure
the
people
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
would
like
to
see.
Imagine
if
you
could
do
that
with
the
federal
taxes
that
we
pay
or
the
state
taxes,
why
shouldn't
pittsburgh
be
the
leader
in
creating
a
system
like
that
for
local
taxes.
C
So
we
are
in
the
the
last
part
of
the
analysis
of
the
simulation
to
be
able
to
present
to
you.
We
will
ask
them
to
be
able
to
have
a
full
presentation
during
your
budget
hearings
not
after,
and
we
will
ask
them
to
be
able,
then
to
get
your
input
into
maybe
different
changes
that
you
think
we
should
be
looking
for,
as
we
then
go
to
harrisburg
to
lobby
for
those
changes.
C
C
And
equity
there
are
also
opportunities
to
look
at
act
47
for
the
first
time
since
it
was
enacted
in
1968.
D
So,
second
and
last
question,
because
I
know
members
will
have
a
lot
to
offer
a
topic
that
has
been
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
since
coming
into
office,
of
course,
has
been
the
food
and
beverage
industry
and
all
of
its
complexities.
D
D
To
to
creating
revenue
for
the
city
and
and
probably
beyond
frontline
workers,
no
one
has
taken
a
larger
hit
than
food
and
beverage
business.
I
lost
you
where'd
he
go.
Do
we
lose
the
mayor?
No.
D
I
like
to
pretend
I'm
actually
looking
at
people
when
I'm
on
here,
but
the
yeah.
So
no
industry
has
taken
a
bigger
hit,
nor
have
we
learned
more
soundly
the
importance
of
food
beverage
business
to
the
economy,
never
like.
D
Never
before
so
thoughts,
ideas,
there's
going
to
be
a
complete
reinvention
of
this
industry
and
yes,
complete
and-
and
it
is
such
a
golden
opportunity
for
us
to
create
this
industry
to
be
everything
that
we
wish
for
it
to
be,
and
so
just
interested
in
your
thoughts
about
food
beverage,
how
it
comes
back,
what
it
looks
like
how
we
can
help
and
and
how
we
can
get
in
on
the
ground
floor.
C
C
We
have
got
to
be
able
to
have
a
vibrant
city,
not
just
economically,
but
with
providing
the
opportunities
for
people
who
want
to
be
able
to
live
here.
So
there
was
a
a
little
sketch.
You
know
that
I've
started
putting
together
and
I
started
talking
to
staff
to
two
weeks
ago.
When
we
talk
about
other
economic
industries,
we
talk
about
the
need
to
access
for
capital.
How
can
we
be
able
to
create
an
opportunity
for
investment
in
order
to
be
able
to
sustain
and
build
present
businesses
that
are
here?
C
As
we
start
to
think
about
pittsburgh?
We
should
be
thinking
about
with
what
I'm
calling
pitstar
pittsburgh
sounds
theater
in
restaurants,
the
the
the
stages,
the
theater,
the
the
music
and
the
restaurants
have
been
a
source
of
great
pride
in
the
city.
C
Over
the
course
of
the
past
eight
years,
we
have
been
able
to
build
up
a
city
that
has
been
recognized
as
a
foodie
city,
a
city
that
has
been
able
to
see
a
sustained
music
industry
building
itself
up
where,
before
and
decades
earlier,
people
had
to
leave
pittsburgh
in
order
to
be
able
to
sustain
themselves
as
musicians
and
our
theaters
and
our
arts,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
smaller
theaters
in
the
arts,
have
grown
exponentially
within
the
past
five
years.
Now
we
need
to
continue
that
growth
and
that's
going
to
need
investors.
C
What
pitstar
is
is
an
idea
of
creating
venture
capital
that
invests
in
the
venues
and
the
organizations
coming,
not
only
from
city
government
but
from
the
philanthropic
community
and
namely
the
wealthy
people,
who
have
made
a
name
in
the
industry
that
call
pittsburgh
home,
and
this
is
not
charity.
This
is
like
somebody
investing
in
a
tech
firm
where
they
can
see
a
return
on
their
investment.
C
So,
as
I
look
at
you
know,
right
now,
the
bloomfield
bridge
tavern
howlers
highland
avenue
in
east
liberty
that
has
the
old
v
the
the
va,
which
has
three
different
stages.
The
rex
theater
the
warner
theater
downtown
the
park
house
on
the
north
side,
james
tavern,
the
garden
theater,
the
new
granada,
theater
ham
bones.
C
C
C
D
So,
honestly,
the
last
thing
I
promise
shame
on
me
for
not
including
theaters
and
and
event
spaces
that
create
and
nurture
socialization
beyond
the
the
elements
for
choosing
to
where
we
live
cities
to
where
we
are
going
to
live.
First
we're
going
to
look.
Can
I
get
a
job?
There
are
the
employment
statistics
good?
Can
I
buy
a
house?
There
is
or
real
estate
market
strong.
D
Can
I
educate
my
kids
or
further
my
education
myself,
but
the
fourth
leg
of
the
stool
is:
what
am
I
going
to
do?
If
I'm
not
at
work
or
not
at
school
or
not
at
home?
It's
it's.
We
wanted
we're
social
beings,
we
want
to
be
in
places
where
we
can
share
and
create
and
socialize
and
interact
with
our
fellow
human
beings,
and
so
one
very
minor
suggestion
as
we
do
this
reinvention
and-
and
I
so
very
appreciate
your
your
ongoing
commitment
to
the
office
of
nighttime
economy.
D
But
perhaps
we
look
at
that
more
as
the
office
of
the
sociable
city
and
and
who
and
what
we
are
you
know
in
creating
these
sociable
spaces
and
that
we
we
are
committed
beyond
just
one
segment
of
that
economy,
but
to
the
holistic
and
the
broad
approach
of
how
important
it
is
to
be
a
sociable
city
and
to
provide,
for
god
knows,
human
contact,
which
we
are
all
at
this
point
in
time.
Absolutely
start
for
for
having
been
isolated
for
so
very
long.
C
I
agree
this
concept
really
came
about
through
a
conversation
I
had
with
jeff
wilke
from
amazon
jeff.
If
you
don't
know,
he
was
a
1985
graduate
of
keystone
oaks.
I
was
an
83
graduate
of
chartres
valley.
C
C
The
jimmy
millers
who's,
an
agent
in
hollywood,
whose
brother
dennis
miller
they
both
went
to
keystone
oaks
as
well.
The
thomas
talls,
the
folks,
were
the
investment
of
private
private
development
with
public
participation
in
bringing
that
investment
to
it
will
help
somebody
like
liz
berlin,
keep
mr
smalls
open
in
millville
and
be
able
to
help
them
to
expand
upon
it
in
a
way
where
the
pittsburgh
music
scene
can
truly
take
off.
C
A
Thank
you
councilman,
and
now
we
have
councilman
gross.
Do
you
have
questions.
I
Thank
you,
madam
president.
Thank
you
everybody
here,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
giving
us.
I
think,
a
much
needed
overall
picture
of
the
challenges
that
both
the
city,
residents
and
businesses
face,
and
our
city
government
faces
and
government
workers
and
and
my
sympathies
and
best
wishes
to
all
of
the
city
employees
who
are
either
actively
identified,
as
you
know,
having
coveted
or
in
quarantine.
It's
very
stressful,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
their
efforts
to
keep
the
city
running.
I
So
many
of
us
are
fortunate
to
be
able
to
work
from
home,
and
a
lot
of
our
workers
are
frontline
workers,
our
essential
workers,
and
so
I
appreciate
your
efforts
as
well
to
keep
them
safe.
I
think
it
has
revealed,
however,
that
some
of
our
department's
staffing
is
just
too
thin.
I
And
that
is
simply
not
true
with
a
lot
of
our
city
departments
and
they
are
just
too
close
to
the
bone
in
terms
of
staffing
levels.
And
so
many
of
us
have
heard
complaints
mostly
sympathetic.
Complaints
from
constituents,
for
example,
who
didn't
get
their
recycling,
picked
up
or
didn't
get
their
garbage
picked
up.
And
when
I'm
able
to
explain
to
them,
that's
just
because
someone's
out
either
because
they're
a
caregiver
or
they're
in
quarantine
or
they're,
actively
a
covid
case
at
dpw.
Of
course,
they're
sympathetic
and
understanding.
I
But
we
really
can
see
which
departments
can't
afford
to
lose.
Even
a
single
employee
out
that
there's
a
direct
impact
on
services,
and
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
explain
why
there
are
departments
like
pli,
which
I
will
argue
has
been
right.
It's
been
flat,
even
though
we
have
seen
a
five-fold
increase
in
permitting
in
the
last
six
or
seven
years
and
has
lost
staff
positions.
I
On
january
1st,
in
your
proposed
budget
right
and
where
we've
seen
these
open,
you
know
temporarily
open
positions,
maybe
somebody
quit
or
moved
out
and
so,
for
example,
pli.
We
heard
testimony
in
the
budget
hearing
that
there
were.
You
know
there
was
a
position
that
hadn't
been
filled
from
may,
but
it
was
frozen
and
then
it
was
eliminated,
and
yet
we
have,
in
my
estimation,
right
departments
that
have
sensac
47
not
increased,
and
yet
our
police
staffing
has
dramatically
increased
in
large
part
because
citizens
and
city
council
members
demanded
that
we
increase
officers
right.
I
I
was
there.
I
heard
the
the
those
calls
for
action
and
I
voted
on
those
budgets
myself
I'll
take
ownership
there
and
yet
we're
not
there's
not
a
single
officer
reduced
in
your
proposed
budget.
So
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
explain
that.
C
Sure,
first,
I
agree
with
you
completely
that
you
know
we're
not
back
to
a
fully
staffed
city
government
that
the
the
the
what
was
it
14
years
of
under
act
47,
it
was
just
cut
cut
cut.
We
cut
all
the
way
into
the
bone
and
in
many
departments
we
still
are
feeling
that
effect.
What
is
really
relevant
right
now
is
what
that
actually
means.
C
E
C
Putting
them
into
positions
that
they
were
not
hired
for
to
be
able
to
pick
up
the
garbage
and
you
know
last
resort
if
we
are
at
that
state
of
emergency.
I've
had
our
staff
look
at
talking
with
the
governor's
office
about
having
the
national
guard
available
as
well,
if
necessary,
to
plow
our
streets.
That's
a
situation
that
nobody
wants
to
be
under.
C
I
have
not
had
one
neighborhood
organization,
not
one
neighborhood
organization
in
the
city
that
has
come
out
and
said
we
need
less
police
in
our
neighborhood.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
activists
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
who
believe
in
abolishing
the
police
and
moving
completely
away
from
having
police
at
all.
C
Do
I
have
everyone?
No
do
I
need
to
have
culture
change.
Yes,
will
it
require
potentially
new
leadership,
yeah
and
we're
willing
to
do
it?
Just
like
we
did
with
the
change
of
command
on
our
public
events,
but
what
I
don't
have
is
a
community
that
is
saying
we'll
give
up
our
police.
You
can
have
them
in
a
different
neighborhood.
C
I've
got
people
in
areas
that
are
asking
for
many
stations.
East
liberty
has
been
asking
for
that
station
to
be
returned.
Since
I
joined
city
council
in
1995.,
it
has
been
decades
that
we
have
promised
them
that
that
would
come
back
in
the
administrations
since
have
never
been
able
to
deliver
zone.
Five
public
safety
meetings
have
had
it
as
its
sole
purpose
of
discussion
for
years,
and
yet
a
group
of
people
who
don't
live
in
the
neighborhood
are
demanding
that
the
people
of
east
liberty
don't
deserve
it
zone.
C
Five
is
the
only
police
station
that
isn't
in
a
neighborhood
in
our
entire
city,
it's
along
a
highway
in
a
flood
zone
that
contributes
to
deadly
flooding.
We
have
created
green
infrastructure
plans
with
the
community
and
with
environmental
groups
in
order
to
be
able
to
turn
that
land
into
a
way
to
be
able
to
use
green
infrastructure
in
order
to
lessen
the
amount
of
flooding
in
our
city.
C
C
Every
other
police
zone
can
but
people
who
don't
have
a
car
don't
have
an
ability
to
be
able
to
get
to
their
police
station.
We
would
never
ever
design
a
plan
where
zone
5
would
be
located
where
it
is,
in
fact
we
would
call
it
segregated
and
in
fact,
if
we
were
to
restore
zone
five
instead
of
going
back
to
its
home
in
east
liberty,
it
would
cost
taxpayers
more
money.
We
would
be
funding
the
police
if.
I
I
may
I
was
hoping
to
focus
on
the
operating
budget
which
is
zone.
5
is
a
separate
topic
that
people
have
been
activated
around,
certainly,
which
is
the
capital
project
mainly,
and
but
the
the
operating
budget
for
the
police
has
really
just
moved
budget
lines
right,
moved
some
65.
I
Crossing
guards
out
of
police
bureau
and
into
police
administration,
so
there
wasn't
actually
no
real
substantive.
There
was
no
cut
to
the
police
bureau
budget,
but
there
was
an
elimination
of
35.
I
think
crossing
guard
positions
again,
which
I
just
I
I
really
struggle
to
understand
because
those
that
really
are
critical.
We,
we
also
have
heard
calls
for
increased
crossing
guard
coverage
at
so
many
intersections
and
then,
when
we
look
at
again
budgets
for
city
departments
that
do
protect
people
in
a
different
way,
they
don't
respond
to
9-1-1
calls.
I
I
think,
you're
referring
to
9-1-1
calls
earlier
when
you
said,
3-1-1
calls
the
departments
that
do
respond
to
three
one:
one
calls
which
are
also
about
kind
of
rebuilding
communities,
that
kind
of
investing
in
communities
that
we
can
try
to
avoid
crises
in
communities.
By
investing
in
them.
You
need
staff
to
do
that.
I
You
actually
need
people
to
respond
to
those
kind
of
calls
as
well,
and
I
feel
that
we
have
actually
we're
hearing
calls
for
increased
service
around
those
departments
and
yet
we're
cutting
those
right
and
I've
shared
elsewhere,
and
it's
in
the
police
budget.
Hearing
where
I
I
gave
a
lot
of
the
information
about,
there
are
cities
comparable
to
our
size
and
crime
rates,
they're,
really
not
related
to
crime
rates.
I
How
many
officers,
especially
in
terms
of
ratio
to
civilian
personnel,
police
departments,
have
and
our
benchmark
cities
like
austin
and
seattle,
have
dramatically
fewer
officers
per
capita
per
10,
000
people,
I
say
I'll,
send
it
to
you
personally
I'll
cited
a
table
from
governing
magazine
which
is
already
2015..
I
We
know
that
we've
seen
in
the
last
six
or
seven
years,
some
200
more
officers
added.
At
least
I
think
when
I
asked
at
the
police
hearing
directly
to
chief
schubert,
there
were
1004
officers
on
payroll
that
day
like
a
week
ago.
That's
high.
It
really
is
high
compared
to
what
we've
seen
in
the
last
15
20
years.
So
if
you
could
speak
to
that
and
then
I'll
let
it
go
because
I
don't
want
to
take
up
everybody's
time.
C
I
understand
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
touch
on
what
you're
talking
about
specifically
and
you're
you're
right.
I
didn't.
I
was
addressing
the
capital
budget,
not
the
operating
budget,
then
I'm
going
to
just
ask
dan
to
get
a
little
bit
more
specific
about
the
crossing
guards
and
and
the
shifts
that
are
happening
within
the
police
budget.
When
we
came
into
office,
we
had
approximately
830
police
officers
and
we
do
the
major
complaint
from
neighborhoods.
C
Back
then
was
we
didn't
have
enough
police
and
they
were
right
for
the
number
of
calls
that
we
have
which
are
somewhere
over
300.
C
We
basically
had
a
substandard
number
in
order
to
be
able
to
respond
with
a
a
an
adequate
time.
We
have
increased
that
number
by
having
recruit
classes
continuously
since
2014
and
as
many
as
three
a
year
when
in
the
past
years
during
act
47,
we
would
have
zero
or
one
that
has
allowed
us
to
get
up
to
a
thousand
officers
which
has
allowed
us
to
create
new
programs.
It
allowed
us
to
create
a
mini
station
in
northview
heights.
C
It
has
allowed
us
to
promise
to
the
communities
of
the
south
side
in
homewood
and
the
hill
that
many
stations
will
be
coming
there
as
well.
These
are
requests
being
made
by
the
people
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods
they're,
not
mandates
that
are
being
placed
by
us.
They
are
personnel
decisions.
If
we
are
now
to
cut
from
the
police,
we
cannot
cut
the
responses
to
9-1-1.
C
What
we'll
end
up
cutting
is
our
civilian
affairs
division
we'll
end
up
cutting
our
community
outreach
programs
we'll
end
up
cutting
all
of
the
different
community
oriented
policing
programs
that
we
have
added
into
the
police
over
the
course
of
the
past
seven
years.
The
the
first
in
order
of
policing
will
still
be
to
to
respond
to
a
9-1-1
call,
and
I
understand
that
you
know
the
the
ideas
are.
How
do
you
minimize
the
amount
of
9-1-1
calls?
C
Can
some
of
that
work
be
done
outside
of
somebody
who
wears
a
police
uniform
and,
I
believe,
that's
correct?
It
can
be,
and
it
should
be,
and
the
issues
of
homelessness
and
addiction
and
issues
that
people
are
facing.
Mental
health
issues
should
be
handled
by
social
workers
and
not
a
part
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
but
you
still
need
to
have
an
adequate
number
of
police.
Is
it
830?
No,
that
we
went
through
that
every
council
member
said
when
our
we
came
in
in
2014.
C
We
need
more
police
in
our
areas,
and
we
did
that
and
we
worked
with
city
council
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
it
now.
Is
it
a
thousand,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I'm
willing
to
work
with
city
council
to
find
out
if
it
can
be
less
and
if
it
can
be
less
in
a
way
that
allows
different
types
of
service
to
be
replaced
by
it.
C
I
went
through
that
and
it
was
horrible
if
we
have
positions
that
are
vacant
right
now
and
during
the
time
period
between
now
and
getting
a
federal
package
to
help
us
I
I
would
rather
have
the
people
that
have
city
jobs
right
now
not
have
to
worry
about
this
next
month,
whether
or
not
they're
still
going
to
be
working
in
january
and
then
work
with
council
after
the
federal
programs
come
and
I
believe
they
will
come
to
see
where
we
do
need
more
councilwoman.
I
agree
with
you.
Pli
needs
more.
C
They
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do
and
even
though
technology
has
been
adapted
to
be
able
to
get
their
job
to
be
more
efficient,
they're
being
asked
to
do
way
too
much
and
it
slows
development
within
the
city
and.
I
I
will
leave
you
with
that,
but
it
doesn't
just
low
development.
It
hurts,
I
think,
small
businesses
that
we
purport
to
support.
That
really
are
the
majority
of
places
where
our
residents
are
employed
and
where
you
can,
we
really
create
local
wealth
so
to
be
get
the
kind
of
handholding
that
they
deserve,
and
I
think
they
should
rightfully
have.
I
They
can't
get
it
from
reviewers
who
are
overwhelmed
right,
and
so
we
end
up
doing
a
lot
of
like
a
significant
portion
of
my
constituent
load
is
holding
people's
hands
through
pli
and
permitting
zoning
permitting
as
well
right.
So
city
planning
can't
take
any
more
cuts
either
or
else
that
small
business
fails
or
or
doesn't
open,
and
I've
had
both
things
happen.
So
I
would
love
to
work
more
on
that
and
I
would
vote
for
shifting
some
of
those
funds
away
from
place
in
2pli.
C
Yep,
I
would
also
ask
to
just
have
that
conversation
with
marty
lamar
part
of
his
duty
for
economic
development
and
the
main
duty
is
being
able
to
coordinate
between
pli
planning
zoning
ura
in
order
to
help
small
businesses
and
having
a
one
person
point
person
for
city
council
through
the
economic
development
chief,
I
think,
would
be
extremely
helpful
as
well.
C
E
Yeah,
if
I
can
mayor
just
on
the
technical
side
in
the
weeds
first
of
all,
councilman,
I
don't
think
you
know
the
mayor
just
agreed.
I
think
most
on
this
call
would
agree
the
need
for
more
in
many
places,
including
pli.
I
would
note
that
in
2015
there
were
72
employees
in
pli
and
in
2020
there
were
89,
so
this
mayor
has
significantly
invested
in
the
same
thing.
E
I
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
can
certainly
get
them
for
you
in
city
planning
and
inp
and
in
other
departments
to
rebuild
since
the
decimation
from
act
47,
but
pli
has
been
one
of
the
areas
and,
of
course,
with
the
creation
of
domi.
That's
almost,
I
think,
that's
almost
a
hundred.
I
have
to
look
it
up.
E
89
90
100,
new
positions,
some
transferred
from
public
works,
but
many
new
positions,
facilities
building
out
chris
hornstein's
team,
so
there
has
been
investment
in
a
lot
of
those
areas
in
this
budget.
I'd
also
note
that
there
was
elimination
of
vacant
operating
positions
within
police,
civilian
police
and
there
were
no
new
police
classes.
E
So
there
isn't
an
expansion
of
the
number
of
police,
it
is
a
reduction
as
you'll
have
retirements
or
transfers,
and
there
are
no
new
academy
classes
that
the
mayor
has
put
in
the
budget,
so
you
will
actually
see
presumably
some
reduction.
E
I
we
don't
know
how
many
people
retire,
but
it
would
be
a
miracle
if
the
number
is
zero,
so
there
would
be
actually
some
reduction
in
some
of
that
or
there
would
have
been
an
increase
because,
of
course,
the
the
reality
is
with
not
just
with
police,
but
but
fire
ems
asked
me:
we
have
union
contracts
with
guaranteed,
raises
guaranteed
increases
in
longevity
uniform
allowance,
any
number
of
areas,
so
you
naturally
have
to
have
an
increase
in
in
costs
and
personnel.
E
So
by
not
having
a
new
academy
class
and
by
cutting
the
vacant
civilian
positions,
we're
able
to
offset
what
would
be
an
even
bigger
increase
in
many
of
these
areas
and
into
the
crossing
guards
of
which
you
know.
I
agree
completely
with
you.
In
theory.
Those
positions
have
been
vacant.
For
years,
we
get
almost
no
applicants
to
become
school
crossing
guards
so
to
keep
positions
in
a
budget
that
we
know
people
aren't
applying
for,
because
part-time
work
is
not
attractive.
E
At
this
point,
in
the
same
way,
and
in
return
actually
laying
someone
off
who
has
a
family
and
kids
and
takes
the
paycheck
away,
isn't
a
decision
we're
willing
to
make
in
a
perfect
world
agree
completely,
but
the
reality
is
just
like
some
of
the
positions
that
are
vacant
that
were
limited
in
other
places.
E
They
aren't
attracting
the
applicants,
it's
true
in
environmental
services
in
many
cases
as
well,
and
the
the
obvious
response
to
that
is
we'll
make
it
a
more
attractive
job
that
people
want
to
apply
for
which
is,
you
know
not
wrong,
except
for
you
know,
look
not
look
at
a
budget,
you
know,
and
we
struggle
to
get
by
each
year
because
of
tax
revenue
and
some
of
the
changes
we
or
challenges
we
talked
about.
I
I
just
have
to
jump
in
a
little
bit
and
say
it
would
be
happily
to
help
disentangle.
What
is
the
obstacle
to
getting
people
to
apply
for
the
crossing
guard
jobs
and
get
those
jobs,
because
I've
had
some
of
the
talks
with
them
and
certainly
those
part-time
jobs
are
income
that
people
need,
let's
not
say
that
they
aren't
all
right,
and
so
I
think
there
are
some
obstacles
to
the
way
that
we
do
a
hiring
and
placing
of
crossing
guards
that
have
been
the
obstacle
from
what
I've
heard.
I
E
Would
certainly
welcome
some
of
that
input.
We
we
have
not
seen
applications
for
crossing
guards.
We
we
are.
E
We
have
reached
a
new
union
contract
agreement
with
the
crossing
guards,
which
has
some
enhancements,
not
as
many
as
we
would
have
liked
to
see,
not
because
of
a
lack
of
agreement,
but
some
challenges
with
state
law,
which
seems
to
be
a
common
refrain
in
this
conversation,
in
many
with
challenges
with
state
law
and
wanting
to
see
the
role
of
school
crossing
guards
expanded
in
a
workforce
development
opportunity
that
actually
can
lead
into
careers
from
it.
E
It
has
historically
been
a
different
position
than
what
we
we
would
like
to
envision,
but
ultimately,
as
painful
as
it
is
to
eliminate
those-
and
we
hope
to
put
them
back.
E
It
made
more
sense
to
us
and
at
the
mayor's
direction,
to
eliminate
vacant
positions
that
people
weren't
applying
for
than
to
actually
lay
off
off
workers
and
to
be
clear
if
we
cut
the
police
budget
further
to
reallocate
resources,
which
is
certainly
council's
prerogative-
and
you
know
the
role
of
any
legislative
body,
it
means
layoffs,
it
does
not
mean
cutting
vacant
positions
or
non-personal
costs.
It
means
taking
people
who
have
jobs
in
a
paycheck
and
telling
them
that
they
don't
now
and-
and
that
was
not
something
the
mayor
supported
in
this
budget.
I
C
Members,
the
idea
with
the
crossing
guards
is
something
we
would
be
very
interested
to
working
with
you
on
what
we
were
thinking.
When
dan
talked
about
workforce
development,
can
we
create
a
program
that
works
with
pittsburgh?
Public
schools,
especially
westinghouse,
where
they
have
the
public
safety
academy,
where
kids
that
are
coming
out
of
that
program
can
be
recruited
into
crossing
guards,
be
able
to
get
their
60
credits
through
the
pittsburgh
promise
and
then
apply
for
public
safety
positions.
C
If,
if
we
could
create
a
program
like
that,
we
can
not
only
see
a
more
diversified
public
safety
organization
within
the
city,
but
would
be
recruiting
people
from
neighborhoods
to
be
the
public
safety
officials
and
so
yeah.
I.
C
C
And
you
have
to
to
go
home
and
then
come
back,
so
it's
yeah.
I
I
get
you
but
just
thinking
about
the
those
two
parts
of
it.
If
there's
an
interest
in
putting
together
a
program,
we
would
be
interested
in
working
with
you
on
that.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
councilwoman,
and
I
just
want
to
add
to
that
that
we
did
look
into
that
last
year
with
the
crossing
guards
and
it
was
something
contractual
because
it
was
an
issue
last
year
and
the
year
before,
we've
looked
into
it
since
then,
but
with
that
said,
can
we
have
councilwoman
strasberger.
J
Can
you
hear
me
all
right?
Thank
you,
council
president.
Thank
you
mayor
and
your
team
for
being
here
today
and
presenting
I
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
so
far
and
I'll
just
ask
this.
J
My
major
concern
is,
of
course,
what
councilman
krauss
brought
up
is,
you
know,
is
the
longevity
of
our
ongoing
revenue
and
fiscal,
fiscal
strength
and
health,
but
also
the
the
immediate
acute
response,
that's
needed
to
the
three
pandemics
that
you
outlined
here
that
we're
facing
and
despite
a
new
presidential
administration
coming
in,
to
be
able
to
for
cities
to
be
able
to
reap
any
kind
of
benefit
from
a
cares
act
in
2021
or
that
might
be
coming
down
the
pike
sooner
than
that
we
will
need
in
my
sec,
in
my
view,
a
coalition
of
different
types
of
mayors
and
local
officials
advocating
for
that,
so
that
it's
not
just
one
political
party
who
is
perceived
to
be
benefiting
from
it
that
it's
you
know
democratic
and
republican
mayors
from
across
pennsylvania,
who
would
be
who
would
be?
J
Who
would
be
benefiting
from
that
and
making
the
case
there,
and
I
I
worry
that
any
next
iteration
of
that
aid
package
could
you
know,
go
to
states
could
go
to
business
owners
but
could
bypass
cities
altogether?
J
C
Yeah
I
I
would,
I
would
say
that,
through
the
u.s
conference
of
mayors,
it
is
a
very
strong
bipartisan
coalition.
The
mayors
of
miami
mayor
suarez
mayor
betsy
price
of
fort
worth
mayor
of
oklahoma
city,
who
are
all
republicans,
are
all
the
lobbying
effort
and
trying
to
to
actually
get
something
done.
C
We
had
the
same
thing
by
the
way,
with
a
gun
coalition
in
not
only
getting
republican
mayors
but
republican
police
chiefs
from
the
southwest
and
other
parts
of
the
country
trying
to
lobby
the
senate
republicans,
but
that
fell
short,
the
the
conversations
and
we
had
a
conversation.
C
I
believe
it
was
last
friday,
not
this
past
friday,
but
the
friday
before
with
president-elect's
new
head
of
intergovernmental
affairs,
there
were
20
mayors
on
the
line
from
both
parties
and
the
the
number
one
issue
was
a
a
relief
package
for
cities.
The
number
two
issue
was
an
infrastructure
bill
that
would
address
repairing
crumbling
infrastructure,
not
building
new
but
building
to
repair.
And
then
there
were
a
number
of
issues
that
that
came
up,
but
the
lobbying.
K
C
L
J
Helpful
to
know
is
there
anything,
that's
being
done
to
assure
that,
if
cities,
if,
if
there's
funding,
that
should
be
coming
either
to
directly
to
business
owners
and
individuals
and
or
cities
that
it
is
not
being
held
up
by
harrisburg.
C
C
As
you
know,
cities
over
500
000
received
that
assistance
this
year,
but
it's
the
cities
under
500
000
that
were
left
out.
So
this
would
not
only
apply
to
a
city
like
pittsburgh.
This
would
also
apply
to
a
city
like
altoona
or
erie
or
butler.
It
would
be
across
the
board
based
upon
the
cdbg
guidelines,
where
it
is
based
upon
need.
J
A
You
councilman
and
can
we
have
councilman
coghill.
K
Great
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here
mayor
and
chief
gilman
and
team.
It's
good
to
see
you
all.
We
all
look
healthy
and
safe
and
that's
great
news.
So
so
you
know
I
didn't
come
in
with
any
set
questions
as
far
as
the
budget
goes,
but
as
we
went
along
and
I
heard
all
their
conversations,
I
just
started
jotting
things
down,
so
I'm
pretty
much
going
to
be
over
the
board
here,
but
we'll
go
from
one
to
the
other
in
a
timely
manner.
K
First
of
all,
I
want
to
comment
on
pli.
You
know
I
agree
with
councilman
gross.
I
think
that's
one
department
being
a
contractor.
K
Knowing
many
contractors
and
people
will
call
me
you
know
not
having
the
right
staffing.
There
stops.
People
from
doing
jobs
stops
homeowners
from
getting
jobs
done
and
just
creates.
You
know
a
a
real
nightmare
so
and
am
I
right,
and
I
and
sarah
I
really
like
sarah,
I
think,
she's,
a
a
very
good
appointment.
Am
I
right
I
mean
they're
really
self-sufficient,
whereas
so,
if
we
were
to
add
staff
there,
I
mean
they're,
one
of
the
few
departments
that
actually
create
revenue.
C
You're
absolutely
right-
and
you
know
I
I
will
ask
dan
to
get
into
more
of
the
details
within
it.
Basically,
when
we
came
in
and
the
reason
we
hired
mara
kennedy
was
because
she
had
a
history
of
being
able
to
utilize
technology
that
department,
the
old
bbi
was
running
off
of
paper
and
pencil,
and
now
we
have
the
ability
to
do
the
permitting
online.
C
That's
not
a
great
advancement
that
should
have
been
done
in
the
90s,
but
what
we've
seen
is
a
pretty
much
overhaul
within
that
department,
but
as
you
state,
we
have
to
be
held
to
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
from
a
permit
being
applied
for
to
the
completion
of
that
permit.
And
if
those
numbers
are
not
going
down,
then
we
have
to
look
at
it
as
an
issue
of
not
having
adequate
resource.
E
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
Certainly
pli
is
a
revenue
generator.
I
don't
know
that
adding
one
inspector
equals.
I
don't
know
that
it's
not
I
we'd
have
to
do
the
math
on
does
adding
one
electrical
inspector
equal,
a
hundred-
and
you
know
six
thousand
dollars
in
additional
permit
fees
being
acquired
by
the
city.
I
just
don't
know
the
answer.
It's
a
fair
and
a
good
question.
I
can
ask
kevin
and
sarah
to
do
some
more
analysis
with
bill
or
banik
on
that,
for
you.
K
E
I
will
get
you,
I
will
get
you
that
answer.
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
what
I
would
say,
though,
two
points
specific
to
this
budget.
We
did
see
our
our
response
time
this
year
and
improve,
but
what
we
did
see
is
a
drop
in
the
number
of
permit
applications
overall,
not
a
surprise.
During
kovit.
E
It
wasn't
as
big
a
drop
as
you
might
have
thought
or
I
might
have
thought,
but
there
was
a
drop
in
in
permit
applications
this
year,
largely
more
on
the
commercial
side,
we
actually
did
see
an
increase
in
residential
people
are
taking
the
time
to
do
things
at
their
house,
but
if
your
people
are
opening
businesses
or
doing
large-scale
commercial,
so
adding
budgeted
positions
right
now
may
not
equal
increased
applications
as
it
might
in
other
years.
K
Right,
okay,
that
that's
good
on
that.
I
I
do
want
to
address.
You
know
the
our
pittsburgh
police
department.
With
you
mayor,
I
often
say
to
many
people.
You
know
in
my
community
that
I
don't
think
this
mayor
takes
enough
credit
for
the
changes
that
have
occurred
since
you've
come
on
and
I
think
the
I
guess,
the
the
policies
that
you
put
in
place
with
this
police
department
going
back
to
say
the
pride
parade.
I
remember
that
incident.
K
I
think
that's
what
helped
us
get
through
these
hundred
protests
without
major
incident
and
all
in
all,
I
tell
people
anybody
wants
to
hear.
If
you
had
a
contract
for
me
to
sign
and
said
after
100
protests,
we
would
have
had
this
many
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
incidents
mistakes
I
would
have
signed
on
the
dotted
line.
Would
you
have
as
well?
K
C
I
I
first
off.
The
only
reason
that
things
are
changing
is
because
there
is
a
willingness
within
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
to
change
without
that
from
the
internal
side
it
just
doesn't
happen,
and
what
that
requires
is
a
buy-in
by
the
officers
themselves
that
community
policing
lessens
crime.
Do
we
have
a
lot
of
way
to
go?
C
C
C
Now.
How
do
you
enforce
that?
People
won't
block
streets?
That's
a
police
officer
and
had
we
gone
in
and
simply
told
people
we
are
going
to
arrest
you
once
you
close
the
street
down
which
we
could
have.
We
would
have
had
chaos,
there
would
have
been
numerous
incidents
and
they
would
have
involved
violence.
C
Instead,
we
decided
to
take
a
different
route,
which
was
to
extend
the
ability
for
people
to
protest
and
close
down
streets
in
one
incident.
In
oakland,
a
young
man
decided
he
was
going
to
close
down
his
own
streets
in
areas
outside
of
where
the
police
had
created
a
safety
bubble
for
the
protesters,
and
what
he
began
to
do
was
to
close
down
our
access
streets
from
forbes
avenue
to
the
hospitals.
C
These
were
the
routes
that
our
police
had
determined
need
to
remain
open
for
anybody
getting
to
the
hospital.
Imagine
the
situation
if
somebody
were
being
rushed
to
the
hospital
and
to
be
shut
down
by
one
person
on
a
bicycle
with
people
around
him,
because
he
simply
wanted
to
do
it.
He
was
worn
seven
times
that
he
was
not
supposed
to
be
there
and
he
chose
to
tell
the
police
I'm
not
going
to
listen
to
you
and
then
ordered
the
other
bicyclists
in
order
to
shut
down
that
street.
C
That
incident
should
have
been
handled
with
a
uniform
police
officer
coming
up
to
him
and
telling
him
you
have
exceeded
what
is
safe
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
he
should
have
been
placed
in
handcuffs
and
put
into
a
marked
car.
I
completely
disagree
with
the
tactic
that
was
used.
That
tactic
should
be
utilized
when
we're
going
after
sex
offenders
and
drug
dealers,
not
after
a
summary
offense.
C
C
C
You
can't
choose
one
side
and
to
be
able
to
then
be
able
to
lead
when
these
types
of
controversial
issues
come
up.
There
has
to
be
somebody
who
is
going
into
it
with
a
level
head
who
is
being
on
able
to
look
at
it
through
both
sides.
Now
does
that
mean
the
police
are
angry
at
me?
Yes,
does
that
mean
the
activists
are
angry
at
me?
Yes,
does
that
mean
I'm
doing
my
job
right?
Yes,.
K
Yep,
you
know
and
I'll
say
again,
you
know
I
was
pleased
to
see
in
the
budget
that
you
didn't
make,
I
would
say,
knee-jerk
cuts
to
the
police
department.
You
know
I
think
at
this
point
it
would
be
premature
and
irresponsible
on
our
part
to
do
that.
I,
like
you,
believe
in
police
reform.
We
need
new
tactics,
new
policies,
things
of
that
nature
and
I'd
love,
to
think
that
a
team
of
social
workers
could
take
police
duties
from
them
from
keeping
them
from
going
to
calls.
K
I'm
not
convinced
of
that.
Yet
I
think
we
have
to
see
it.
The
only
model
I've
seen
was
from
the
county
human
services,
which
you
know
I
kind
of
liked
what
I
saw
there
so
so,
but
we're
far
away
from
seeing
if
this
can
actually
cut
down
on
3-1
or
9-1-1
calls
where
police
don't
have
to
respond,
and
I'm
not
really
looking
for
a
response
to
that.
But
I'm
just
saying
at
this
point
you
know
you
did
the
right
thing
in
the
budget.
K
Overall,
you
know
can
argue
that
we're
kicking
down
the
can
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
until
july,
but
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
too.
You
know
no
sense
in
sending
panic
throughout
your
departments
as
to
who's
going
to
be
cut
who's,
not
we're
all
hoping
for
the
federal
relief.
You
know
if
we
don't
get
it,
it
sounds
like
each
department
is
prepared
with
the
cuts
that
they
have
to
make
and
yeah
that's
going
to
be
devastating
across
the
board.
K
So,
but
I
think
we'll
get
it
and
I
think
everything
will
be
fine
and
I
hope
revenues
come
back
from
the
point
of
the
amusement
tax
and
parking
tax
and
every
every
other
place
that
we're
losing
revenue.
So
so
I
don't
want
to
eat
up
any
more
time.
I
just
really
wanted
to
say.
Overall,
you
know
you
did
a
great
job
throughout
those
protests,
your
police
department,
I've
worked
closely
with
your
command
staff,
nothing
but
top-notch
professionals
for
them.
To
put
that
uniform.
K
You
know
with
the
the
critics
out
there.
You
know
I
can't
even
say
enough
about
the
job
that
they
do
so
yeah
with
that.
That's
it
for
me,
but
thank
you
thanks
for
being
here.
C
Thank
you,
councilman.
I
would
also
like
to
ask
that
when
there
is
a
bill
that
is
presented,
asking
the
help
of
city
council
to
join
with
the
fraternal
order
of
police
to
join
with
the
pittsburgh
firefighters
to
join
with
the
medics
and
others
to
remind
senator
toomey
what's
at
stake,
and
that
the
relief
that
is
coming
to
the
cities
will
be
able
to
allow
that
that
july
scenario
of
losing
634
employees,
the
majority
of
which
will
be
public
safety,
will
not
have
to
be
realized.
C
I
don't
think
senator
toomey
understands
that
that
is
in
his
hands
and
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
not
simply
part
of
the
problem.
K
Good,
that's
great
to
know
I'll
do
my
part.
I
did
have
one
more
thing,
I'm
sorry
I
had
to
ask
about,
and
you
know
I
really
judge
any
mayor
by
their
departments
and
for
the
most
part
you
have
really
great
people
in
your
departments,
two
in
which
that
I
chair
is
domi
with
director,
rix
and
director
gable.
Who
will
be?
We
will
be
badly
losing
because
I
think
he
really
does
a
fantastic
job,
but
but
I'm
also
confident
in
the
leadership
he
has
behind
him.
K
So
I
think
we
probably
won't
miss
a
beat
there,
but
I
did
want
to
say
one
thing:
they
both
brought
up
to
me,
which
is
really
concerning,
and
I
actually
went
through
this
in
you
know
some
infrastructure
needs
as
to
the
brookline.
You
know
deck
hockey,
rink
and
trying
to
get
a
plumber
or
trying
to
get
an
electrician.
K
C
The
problem
is,
plumbers
are
making
eighty
thousand
dollars,
and
so
we
see
this
not
only
within
those
skilled
positions,
but
this
is
dan
was
saying
within
environmental
services
trying
to
find
drivers.
C
You
know
drivers
are
being
paid
teamsters,
80
000
as
well,
we're
paying
them
45
or
50,
and
so
you
know
when
you
have
that
that
type
of
competition,
because
the
economy
in
those
areas
has
really
taken
off,
it
becomes
difficult.
What
we
have
to
do
is
create
workforce
development
opportunities
for
young
people
within
the
city
and
put
them
into
those
positions
as
they're
graduating
high
school
and
giving
them
the
opportunities,
and
we
have
to
work
with
our
trades
in
order
to
be
able
to
train
them.
We
have
good
union
positions.
K
And,
and
if
one
final
note
I'll
just
say,
I
want
to
thank
you
in
in
chief
gilman
for
adjusting
my
infrastructure
needs
buildings
that
need
knocked
down
lots
that
need
cleared
roads
that
are
caving
in.
So
you
know
my
first,
what
three
and
a
half
years
in
here
you
know
I
couldn't
be
more
pleased
with
addre
you're
addressing
critical
needs.
I
feel,
and
I
ride
up
and
down
a
main
avenue
as
a
contractor
and
I
see
a
building.
K
I
think
that
thing
needs
to
go
and
you
know
you've
been
quick
to
respond
on
that
and
you
know
so.
I
appreciate
that
and
beach
view
is
changing
by
the
day
in
necessary
things.
We
just
created
a
beautiful
new
view
there
from
knocking
that
building
down
that
was
falling.
So
so
I
think
people
are
excited
about
it,
and
you
know
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
for
another
four
years,
so
that.
C
Part
of
it,
I
I'm
just
just
gonna-
throw
it
right
back
at
you,
because
I
hear
from
people
in
your
district
how
they're
seeing
more
stuff
getting
done.
I
these
were
long-standing
problems
that
had
not
been
addressed,
that
it
may
be
as
simple
as
an
empty
lot,
that's
being
maintained,
but
the
way
that
you
prioritize
makes
it
very
easy
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
that.
C
Instead
of
just
throwing
everything
at
us,
you
let
us
know.
This
is
what
I
need
done
right
now,
and
here's
the
next
two
after
that
and
that
helps
us
to
be
able
to
work
with
public
works
and
the
other
departments
in
order
to
actually
get
it
done.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
putting
the
priorities
of
the
community
into
bite
size
projects
that
are
actually
able
to
get
done.
K
L
Yes,
thanks,
madam
president,
and
thank
you
and
thank
you
mayor
peduto
and
your
staff
for
for
being
here
and
answering
all
these
critical
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
say
as
a
new
councilman
on
the
north
side.
You
know
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
you,
the
mayor,
has
has
you
know
from
my
research,
is,
has
proposed
to
invest
over
11
million
dollars
and
directly
into
district
one
on
the
north
side,
and
you
know,
there's
also
city-wide
functions
and
programs
that
my
district
will
benefit
from
that
you're
putting
into
the
budget.
L
So
I
want
to
ask
a
question
about
how
your
office
sees
you
know
what
your
role
is
in
in
terms
of
the
relationship
between
the
mayor's
office,
the
community
and
then
also
the
office
of
community
and
health,
health
and
safety.
C
Yeah
again,
I'm
gonna
rely
upon
dan
to
be
able
to
go
through
the
breakdown
of
it.
But
as
we
launched
this
program,
the
idea
is
we
it's
interesting,
the
city
of
pittsburgh
used
to
have
a
health
department.
I
didn't
realize
that,
but
in
the
1920s
I
think
1930s,
the
city
had
its
own
health
department
and
then,
by
the
time
that
most
people
lived
outside
of
the
city
instead
of
inside
in
allegheny
county,
the
health
department
became
a
county
function
and
we
have
not
had
even
an
employee
that
worked
on
health.
C
Is
there
a
better
tool
to
be
able
to
deal
with
that
situation,
and
we
believe
so
you
know
growing
up
as
a
kid
in
scott
township
charters
valley
had
two
centers:
it
had
woodville
state
hospital
and
maybe
state
hospital,
and
they
were
full
and
they
were
dealing
with
people
that
were
had
needs
for
mental
health
issues.
They're
gone,
but
the
people
aren't
gone.
C
The
only
difference
is
is
that,
instead
of
being
treated
at
a
state
institution
they're
being
treated
at
allegheny
county
jail
and
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
in
order
to
be
able
to
treat
that
do
we
still
need
the
police?
Absolutely
you
know
the
most
dangerous
situation
is
a
domestic,
and
a
police
officer
needs
to
be
there
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
safe.
So
when
that
call
comes
in
about
somebody
screaming
as
they're
walking
down
the
street
in
downtown
pittsburgh,
the
first
response
is
the
police
to
make
sure
that
they're
safe.
C
C
E
Thanks
to
council
members,
I
think,
is
having
its
own
budget
hearing
on
thursday
lindsay
and
laura
will
represent
and
have
its
own
time.
So
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail,
but
councilman,
it's
important
to
note.
Ochs
is
very
intentionally
laura.
Who
will
run
the
department
will
have
a
dual
kind
of
reporting
to
me.
The
mayor.
However,
you
want
to
see
it
and
the
public
safety
director.
E
It
is
not
under
public
safety
and
very
intentionally
so,
but
has
to
be
closely
coordinated
with
public
safety,
and
that
is
the
intent
with
the
new
initiative,
and
you
spoke
at
the
launch
of
that
initiative,
seeing
office
of
community
health
and
safety
and
gvi
and
chatera,
and
her
stop
the
vines
work
as
sister
kind
of
quote,
unquote:
agencies
working
together,
knowing
that
there
are
two
paths
that
need
to
run
parallel
with
each
other
to
improve
the
health
and
safety
of
our
neighborhoods
and
of
our
residents.
E
Ochs
will
have
roughly
500
000
in
personnel
funding
transfer
to
it
out
from
outside
the
from
the
stop
the
violence,
trust
fund
that
city
council
created
to
help
start
the
positions
this
year.
The
only
current
employee
obviously
is
laura
schultzschover,
but
we're
working
with
hr
to
be
able
to
get
those
positions
posted
january
1.
So
we
can
start
hiring
as
quickly
as
possible
for
the
positions.
E
We
also
have
some
current
vista
fellows
that
will
be
shifting
over
into
the
work
as
well
and
really
the
goal
of
this
department,
as
you
know,
is
to
change
so
that,
instead
of
a
police
interaction,
it's
a
public
health
interaction.
E
It's
stopping
the
interaction
before
the
police
are
involved,
being
able
to
actually
have
our
partnership
with
ahn
out
there
responding
to
people
in
need
having
our
outreach
workers
having
our
workers,
who
are
working
around
ptsd,
those
working
around
opioid
epidemic,
those
working
in
drug
addiction
and
alcohol
addiction
out
in
the
street,
working
with
our
residents
to
actually
prevent
the
interaction
with
police
from
ever
occurring.
How
police
respond
is
a
different
issue
and
one
that
we're
also
tackling
through
training
and
hopefully
over
time.
E
You
build
out
a
department
where
the
police
don't
respond
to
those
types
of
calls.
That's
not
going
to
happen
on
january
1,
but
I
think
we
share
a
vision
through
the
mayor's
reimagining
police
initiative
to
get
there,
but
the
key
of
this
department
is
actually
stopping
that
interaction
from
occurring
and
having
work
done
ahead
of
time
to
do
harm
reduction,
to
help
people
before
there's
that
911
call
is
ever
even
made
and
that's
the
the
budget
commitment
we're
making
is
actually
directly
into
stopping
that
interaction
from
ever
taking
place.
L
F
F
L
Continue
to
have
conversations
with
my
constituents
and
basically
residents
of
district
one
that
are
looking
for.
You
know
different
solutions
in
times
of
when
they're
you
know
seeing
calls
for
you
know,
adjustments
in
the
budget,
and
I
you
know
I
talked
to
them
about
this,
this
new
office
and
I
say:
well,
you
know,
will
you
be
a
a
partner
with
me
in
this?
L
Can
you
know
I
will
add
you
to
you
know
my
my
circle
of
people
that
I'm
reaching
out
to
constantly
to
you
know,
get
the
pulse
on
what
they
need,
and
so
my
district
is,
you
know,
is
it's
not
absent
of
any
any
sort
of
need
like
that?
So
you
know
this
step
is
a
big
one,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
effort
that
is
going
into
this.
I
realize
that's
in
its
infancy
and
I
look
you
know,
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
a
partner
with
this
with
this
office.
L
I
did
have
one
more
basic
question.
Maybe
it
is?
Maybe
it
isn't,
but
you
know
when
the
pandemic
happened.
My
the
number
one
call
that
we
got
from
residents
that
wanted
us
to
do.
Something
was
to
tow
abandoned
cars,
and-
and
I
bring
this
up
because
you
know
the
pandemic-
put
people
in
their
place
and
they
I
mean
they
were
pretty
frank
with
us
and
said.
L
Well,
you
know
I
open
my
window
and
I
see
this
car
there
every
day,
but
that
was
one
thing
they
were
doing,
but
the
other
thing
they
were
doing
is
spending
more
time
in
their
neighborhood,
and
then
they
realized
how
much
the
traffic
is
just
inc.
I
mean
you
know
how
fast
cars
go
on
their
street
and
how
maybe
someone
save
some
other
streets
are,
and
you
know
I'm
not
looking
for
you
know
a
big
increase
in
this
in
this
budget
for
travel
coming,
but
traffic
coming
has
been
such
a
a
call.
L
You
know
people
call
into
my
office,
I
mean
that
might
be
the
number
one
request
right
now:
people
how
they're
using
their
neighborhood,
how
how
they
want
to
see
that
investment
in
that
small
parklet,
and
you
know
I
would
really
I
would
like
to
you
know
I
realize
it's
a
conversation
with
domi,
but
you
know
I
would
you
know
just
want
to
bring
us
up
here
in
this
meeting
so
that
we
can.
You
know.
So
you
know
what
I'm
thinking,
which
is.
L
You
know,
how
can
we
figure
out
some
some
solutions
for
for
these
neighborhoods
and
these
streets
that
are
experiencing?
You
know,
accidents
or
speeding,
and
you
know
just
just
a
better
way
that
everyone
can
access
the
street
because
that
cuts
across
all
you
know
walks
of
life.
In
my
district
it
doesn't
matter
if
they
don't
like
the
bike
lane,
they
still
want
a
speed.
Hump.
E
L
Know
these
are,
these
are
all
important
efforts
that
I'm
sorry.
These
are
all
important
projects
that
everyone
wants
in
a
neighborhood,
and
you
know
they
realize
that
not
every
single
project
needs
a
speed
up,
but
I
don't
know,
do
you?
Do
you
see
this?
It
you
know.
Do
you
see?
Did
you
see
a
dramatic
decrease
in
this
type
of
funding?
Because
I
think
it's
a
really
good
one
to
focus
on.
E
We
are
increasing
it
and
bobby,
and
the
one
thing
I
would
add
is
this:
is
an
operating
and
a
capital
conversation.
You
know
that
may
tie
to
in
councilman
coghill's
district
that
we
did
last
week,
which
desperately
needed.
We
spent
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
capital
funds,
the
the
speed
humps
and
those
things
are
expensive.
E
So
while
we
we
have
a
lot
in
the
budget
for
it
and
can
certainly
have
director
ricks
go
through
it
with
you,
it
is
a
combo
of
the
capital
needs
as
they're
expensive
and
then
also
the
operating
of
design.
You
know
I
karine
always
gets
mad
at
me
because
I
was
like
what's
so
hard,
you
know
just
build
the
hump
and
you
put
them
out,
but
there's
a
lot
of
engineering
design
that
goes
into
it.
E
So
it
is
both
the
operating
of
hiring
more
engineers
as
we're
able
to
in
pms
and
domi
and
the
capital
costs,
and
it's
getting
creative
we're
doing
three
new
blinking
stop
signs
or
yields,
I'm
sorry
yield
to
pedestrian
signs.
Working
with
the
councilwoman
kill
smith
on
grandview.
We
just
did
one
at
chateau
and
beaver.
I
believe.
E
About
to
do
one
at
40th
and
davidson
in
lawrenceville,
so
it's
you
know
how
do
those
work?
How
does
the
bump
bounce
work
to
narrow
the
streets?
But
it
is
also
an
enforcement
conversation.
E
There
is
no
doubt
that
expanding
you
know
needing
the
the
traffic
division
and
the
enforcement
is
a
critical
piece,
no
matter
how
much
we
put
in.
We
find
people
who
you
know
go
around
the
speed
humps
on
beechwood
and
we
had
to
widen
the
speed
humps
because
they
were
driving
in
the
parking
lane
to
get
around
of
people
who
speed
between
speed,
humps,
there's
a
need
for
a
change
in
human
behavior,
with
the
engineering
infrastructure
change
and
the
enforcement.
L
Great,
thank
you
yeah.
I
just
can't
echo
that
enough
that
you
know
as
the
pandemic
continues
and
people
stay
in
their
neighborhood
in
their
you
know
in
their
in
their
house.
They're
constantly,
I
think,
questioning
you
know,
what's
the
difference
between
living
here
in
the
city
versus
somewhere
else,
because
this
pandemic
and
they
enjoy
their
neighborhood
so
much
and
they
I
think
they
just
you
know,
call
in
about
this
one
issue.
So
it's
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
there's
going
to
be
this
continued
investment
all
right
thanks.
A
Thank
you
councilman,
and
so
now
it's
it's
my
turn.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
mayor
because
well
and
dan
gilman
I
mean
he
answers
calls
day
and
night
seven
days
a
week,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
him
for
that
and
for
being
so
available.
A
This
is
what
it's
like
being
important
to
a
mayor,
because
you
can
see
the
work
getting
done
on
our
side
of
town
and
people
are
commenting
all
the
time
that
they're
seeing
such
investment
in
our
area,
in
our
parks
and
in
our
infrastructure
or
staffs.
The
seeing
steps
done
in
neighborhoods
that
haven't.
A
Years
so
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
we
see
a
lot
and
we're
very
thankful
in
our
site.
I
think
you've
seen
that
when
you
come
over
here
we
have
dinner
or
lunch
or
have
a
meeting
every
year
and
people
greet
you
and
they
I
mean,
I'm
always
surprised
at
the
amount
of
accolades
you
receive
because
they
people
are
so
open
and
just
thanking
you.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
tell
people
all
the
time
we
probably
disagree
90
on
on
on
how
to
get
to
a
policy,
not
not
that
we
disagree
on
policy,
but
usually
on
on
our
the
way
we
get
there.
I
said,
but
you
have
been
so
good
to
our
district
and
so
good
to
our
city.
So
what
I
care
about
is
the
end
result
and
that's
what
I
think
is
you've
really
shown
us
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
positive
things
on
our
side
of
town.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
I'm
gonna
still
nag
you
and
still
and
still
ask
for
more.
A
But
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
when
we
talk
about
the
only
thing
I
have
a
concern
about
is
what
have
you
know
different
concerns,
but
I
have
one
of
the
things
I
I
hearing
everyone
talking
about
is
the
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety,
so
I'll
wait
until
we
have
that
meet
that
hearing,
which
I
think
is
tentatively
scheduled
for
thursday
after
the
parks
and
rec
meeting.
So
I'll
wait
for
that.
A
But
I
do
want
to
mention
that
one
of
the
things
that
frustrates
me
is
when
we
talk
about
doing
things
differently
in
policing
and-
and
I've
said
this
before,
and
I've
said
I
said
last
week-
is
that
long
before
this
was
like
some
fashionable
thing
or
something
to
talk
about.
I
I
often
asked
why
we
weren't
doing
more
in
terms
of
trying
to
prevent
people
from
getting
a
criminal
record
and
trying
to
provide
people
with
the
mental
health
and
services
that
they
do
need
before
we
send
in
police
officers.
A
But
I
also
thought
that
you
know
we
wanted
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
you
didn't
that
there
was
never
that
there
would
start
minimizing
the
need
for
police,
not
just
all
of
a
sudden
do
away
with
police
and
there's
no
police
around
it,
and
one
of
my
frustrations
has
been
that
I've
said
this
before
is
I've
been
to
I've
gotten
calls
in
at
night,
and
I've
gotten
calls
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
I've
gone
down
into
the
neighborhoods
that
have
called
me
or
up
into
the
neighborhoods
that
have
called
me
to
see
what
the
issues
were,
and
there
were.
A
I
can
remember
one
week
just
about
maybe
about
a
month
ago,
and
there
were
back-to-back
days
where
I
got
calls
where
a
social
worker
police
called
for
a
social
worker
that
we
have
a
contract
with,
and
they
did
not
show
up,
and
so
the
community
was
left
to
fend
for
themselves
and
really
difficult
situations.
A
So
I
want
to
make
sure
whatever
we
do
and
I'll
take
this
up
during
that
meeting
whatever
we
do,
we
are
doing
in
a
way
that
we
are
making
sure
that
people
are
showing
up
we're,
not
eliminating
any
kind
of
response
to
people,
because
then,
then
the
residents
were
left
to
fend
for
this.
They,
the
police,
had
to
leave
because
they
got
a
more.
You
know,
urgent
call
and
on
both
dates
and
the
social
worker
never
showed
so.
A
Residents
were
sitting
there
trying
to
calm
one
person
down
who's,
who
had
mental
health
disorders
and
his
mother
thought.
The
best
way
to
calm
him
down
was
to
give
him
alcohol,
which
only
enraged
him
more
and
the.
Then
there
was
a
young
boy.
He
was
threatening
to
rape
the
little
girl
next
door,
so
it
was.
There
was
a
lot
of
stuff
that
was
going
on
and
no
social
worker.
A
Even
though
I've
asked
the
county
for
a
needs
assessment
and
we're
talking
about
paying
for
the
needs
assessment
when
we're
talking
about
struggling-
and
I
know
that
you
know
you
have
a
good
relationship
with
rich-
as
do
I-
and-
and
I
do
want
to
talk
with
them
about
this
because
they
get
two
billion
dollars
for
social
services
and
yet
we're
going
to
pay
for
a
needs
assessment
and
we're
not
even
trying
to
hold
them
accountable
for
the
programs
we're
not
getting.
We
don't
even
know
if
what
they
provide
for
us
or
programs
that
we
need.
A
So
it's
a
conversation
I
want
to
have
with
him
it's
a
conversation.
I
would
hope
that
you
and
he
would
have-
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention,
but
other
than
that.
I
I
have
no
no
further
questions.
Oh
my
colleagues
asked
a
lot
except
I'm
sorry.
I
do
have
one
other
thing.
I
apologize
my
concern.
A
I
I
have
a
huge
concern
with
we're
doing
a
lot,
and
I
want
to
thank
lindsay
and
your
office
for
doing
a
lot
with
us
in
terms
of
getting
food
into
neighborhoods
and
into
people
that
are
really
needing
and
really
struggling.
But
my
concern
is
we're
seeing
such
a
need
now
and
there
actually
is
so
much
help
available
because
of
covid.
My
concern
is
what
happens
to
these
people
that
are
now
relying
on
covid
funding
and
things
and
then
after
covet
is
gone
or
hopefully
soon
and
the
money
is
dried
up.
A
How
are
we
going
to
feed
these
people?
I
I'm
worried
about
what
we're
going
to
do,
as
I
just
won't
put
that
on
your
radar
too.
I'm
worried
about,
what's
going
to
happen
after
coven
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
still
going
to
be
hurting
still
people
without
jobs,
and
there
are
people
that
are
hurting
now,
they're.
Finally,
getting
help-
and
I
hate
to
say,
but
thank
god
for
the
covered
money,
because
they're
probably
getting
the
help
that
they've
waited
for
years
to
have
so
I'm
worried
about
what's
happening.
C
Let
me
start
with
that
one.
I
think
that
what
we'll
see,
at
least
on
a
city
side
is
a
continuation
of
being
able
to
offer
some
of
the
services
that
we
began
this
year.
So
what
that
would
mean
is,
within
the
parks
department,
more
of
a
focus
on
being
able
to
provide
meals
to
families
that
need
food
being
able
to
provide
different
types
of
services
that
we
have
made
available
through
covid
to
our
critical
communities.
C
We
provide
free
hotel,
stay
for
our
homeless
neighbors
to
get
them
better,
and
I
think
that
these
different
programs
that
we've
established
in
creating
an
additional
safety
net
during
the
pandemic
are
things
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
I've.
Been.
You
know,
toying
with
the
idea
of
changing
the
name,
because
parks
and
recreation
are
the
farthest
things
that
that
department
is
dealing
with
right
now,
they're
dealing
with
workforce
development,
wellness
safety,
food
insecurity-
I
mean
it's
a
different
department
right
now
than
it
would.
C
It
would
have
been
going
back
to
the
capital
investment
in
district.
Two,
I
don't
have
children.
I
don't
know
what
it's
like
at
christmas
time
to
get
your
kids
gifts,
that
I
can
assure
that
you
know
there's
those
years
where
one
of
the
kids
gets
more
than
the
others,
and
I'm
happy
that
district
two
is
for
a
couple
of
years
now,
don't
expect
it
every
year
we
have
to
spread
it
out,
but
it's
more
of
a
sense
of
that
amen.
C
The
ochs
model
is
a
different
model
and
it
was
sort
of
implemented
that
that
evening,
as
well,
instead
of
using
a
swat
team,
the
pittsburgh
bureau
of
police
reached
out
to
the
da's
office
and
a
mediator
was
brought
in
the
mediator
and
a
family
member
then
spoke
with
the
person.
C
They
then
came
up
with
a
situation
in
which
they
would
open
the
car
door
and
would
surrender
to
the
police
demanded
a
african-american
officer
arrest
them.
So
a
black
officer
was
brought
in
and
they
demanded
that
it
be
a
female,
and
so
a
black
female
officer
was
brought
in.
The
person
was
then
arrested
and
the
car
keys
were
turned
over
to
one
of
his
associates,
so
they
could
take
the
car
back
to
his
home
and
it
wouldn't
be
impounded
same
result
quite
different
process.
C
C
For
their
professionalism
and
for
their
dignity,
in
allowing
this
process
to
not
be
politicized
but
to
recognize
what
is
best
for
our
citizens
and
the
neighborhoods,
they
call
home.
A
Thank
you,
mary
and
one
last
time
do
you
have
anything?
I
know
I
asked
you.
H
No
thank
you.
You
called
me
the
first
time
I
was
doing
with
my
children.
Just
three
quick
comments,
not
really
questions.
First,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
may,
or
at
least
notify
you
anyway-
that
director
paulus
has
been
very
helpful
in
this
process.
At
least
for
me.
Helping
me
understand
how
would
how
we're
getting
to
the
budget
that
was
was
presented.
H
He's
been
very
helpful
since
I
just
want
to
sort
of
publicly
thank
him
and
thank
you
for
allowing
him
to
work
with
our
budget
office
and
myself
through
this
whole
process.
So
that's
one
two,
I
forget
what
you
called
it,
but
whatever
the
tool
or
the
mechanism
that
you
want
to
have
presented
before
council
that
looks
at
the
various
ways
that
we
can
look
look
at
our
tax
structure.
I
really
look
forward
to
that.
H
I
also
think
that,
after
that
is
presented
that
collectively,
to
the
extent
that
we
can,
whether
it
has
to
be
like
this
on
zoom
or
the
extent
that
we
can
socially
distance
and
actually
be
in
harrisburg
for
a
day.
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you
to
have
a
conversation
in
harrisburg
about
how
our
tax
structure
must
change
in
order
for
us
to
be
resilient
moving
forward.
So
I
just
look
forward
to
that
opportunity
and
then
three-
and
this
may
help
us
transition
into
the
office
of
equity.
H
I
think
you
called
it.
I
wrote
it
down
the
pit
star
program
in
order,
one
of
the
ways
that
we're
going
to
sort
of
come
out
of
this
economy
that
we're
currently
in
is
actually,
in
my
opinion,
through
investing
in
communities
of
color
nationally.
We
see-
and
I
think
we
see
it
locally
as
well.
H
The
number
one
entrepreneur
is
a
woman
of
color
in
our
country
and
so
investing
in
communities
that
have
historically
not
been
investing
in
and
helping
them
create
businesses
helping
them
with
the
small
businesses
that
councilwoman
gross
was
speaking
about
really
investing
in
that
which
is
sort
of
the
idea.
Also,
behind
avenues
of
hope
is
one
way
to
help
us
come
out
and
rebuild
a
stronger
economy,
but
one
of
the
challenges
that
continues
to
plague
those
communities
is
access
to
capital.
H
It's
not
that
whether
they're
a
developer,
whether
they
want
to
open
up
a
hair
salon,
whatever
it
may
be
being
able
to
walk
into
one
of
the
traditional
banks,
is
isn't
simply
there
in
the
manner
in
which
our
white
counterparts
have
that
ability
to
be
quite
frank,
and
so
I've
been
for
a
while
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
crack
that
nut
as
well,
and
maybe
looking
at
the
model
that
you're
looking
at
for
the
arts
community
could
also
be
beneficial
in
looking
at
sort
of
the
minority
business
and
the
minority
development
community
as
well.
H
So
just
a
thought
that
I
wanted
to
put
out
there,
you
can
respond.
You
don't
have
to,
but
just
sort
of
three
thoughts
that
I
had
coming
out
of
this
conversation.
But
thank
you.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
I'll
just
say
this:
if
you're
looking
at
stages,
theaters,
restaurants,
imagine
what
10
million
dollars
of
equity
fund
could
mean.
You
know
in
a
rotating
type
of
way,
where
it's
a
no
interest
or
low
interest,
or
it's
a
payback
through
investment
or
whatever.
It
is.
C
If,
if
you
had
that
in
order
to
be
able
to
invest
and
if
we're
not
able
to
provide
that
through
government
funding,
then
can
we
create
the
type
of
partnership
we
created
with
pnc
bank
for
the
avenues
of
hope
create
a
model
where
it
is
people
from
the
entertainment
industry
chefs
from
pittsburgh
and
others
that
are
investing
back
into
that
part
of
our
community
and
being
able
to
provide
the
needed
equity
and
then
the
expertise
in
order
to
make
the
those
businesses
successful.
C
Like
I
said
it's
something
we've
been
toying
with,
but
the
conversation
is
at
that
point
now.
I
think
where
we
can
start
to
identify
individuals
and
approach
them
to
see
if
they're
interested.
H
Agreed
agreed,
100
percent
in
terms
of
the
equity
conversation,
one
of
the
things
that
also
wanted
to
do
at
the
ura.
I
don't
this.
This
probably
is
not
the
year
to
be
able
to
do.
It
is
also
create
sort
of
a
revolving
loan
fund
that
small
businesses
and
developers
could
tap
into,
especially
for
pre-development
assistance,
which
is
one
of
the
hardest
pieces
hardest
dollars
to
come
across
in
order
to
move,
develop
developments
forward
and
then
along
those
lines,
to
the
extent
that
we
believe
harrisburg
could
be
helpful
in
this.
H
C
H
C
A
You
thank
you
councilman
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
second
round,
but
I
just
would
like
to
remind
members
that
we
have
two
additional
hearings
and
then
we
recess
and
come
back
at
1
30..
So
we
don't
have
much
time.
So
if
you
do
have
additional
questions,
please
keep
them
brief.
I
I
That
council
also
just
a
year
ago
transferred
an
extra
250
000
is
one
of
my
budget
amendments
last
year
to
the
ra
to
focus
some
of
the
micro
lending
on
child
care
facilities.
Lark
almost
entirely
women
owned
small
businesses
throughout
the
city
that
are
neighborhood
serving
critical.
Frontline
needs
right
now
and
largely
minority
owned
as
well
and
part
of
our
care
industry
that
we
know
we
need
to
strengthen
and
reinvest
in.
We
know
it
makes
for
a
stronger
pittsburgh.
I
It
helps
families,
it
helps
the
workers
and
it
helps
people
build
their
own
businesses
and
we'd
likely
guard
it
off
the
ground
before
covet
hit.
So
I
just
want
to
commend
the
ura
for
launching
that
so
aggressively
at
the
beginning
of
2020,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
talking
about
that
more
later
today.
But
I
fully
support
and
I've
always
been.
I've
been
critical
of
the
ura
in
its
major
real
estate
development,
but
I've
always
been
supportive
of
its
small
business
lending
and
small
business
investment
for
creating
local
wealth.
A
Councilwoman,
no
other
members,
no
additional
questions.
Thank
you,
mayor,
we'll
be
we'll
move
on
now
to
our
to
the
office
of
equity
and
bill
rabbinic.
Do
you
have
something
to
read
for
that?
Yes,
I
do.
A
B
You
very
robust
conversations,
fantastic.
C
Okay,
lindsay
and
majestic:
are
you
guys
able
to
take
this?
Absolutely
okay?
Thank
you.
We're
good
mayor.
B
Sure
the
start
off
with
the
mission
of
the
office
of
equity,
which
is
to
normalize
social
and
racial
equity
within
the
city
government
in
our
communities.
The
staff
works
closely
with
community
partners,
government
agencies,
experts
and
communities
to
inform
and
implement
equitable
policies,
programs
procedures
and
expenditures
to
make
pittsburgh
a
community
for
all.
B
The
bureau
has
several
different
areas
that
addresses
youth,
educate,
youth
and
education,
gender
equity,
economic
opportunity,
business
inclusion,
which
is
where
the
mbe
wbe
program
is
housed
in
db,
critical
communities
and
special
initiatives.
The
budget
for
the
office
of
equity,
again
we're
talking
about
reductions
for
this
year.
The
total
budget
is
one
million
three
hundred
and
twenty
nine
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
decrease
of
what
was
anticipated
in
last
year's
five-year
plan
of
380
000
or
22.3
percent
total
full-time
positions;
14.
B
That's
a
reduction
of
one
reductions
in
that
six
months
of
the
year.
Our
critical
communities
initiative
manager
was
eliminated,
non-salary
expansion
expenditures
were
reduced
by
thirty
seven
thousand
dollars.
A
professional
and
technical
services
reduced
by
thirty
thousand
dollars,
catering
of
six
thousand
dollars
eliminated
and
cleaning
of
twelve
hundred
dollars
was
eliminated.
B
The
anticipated
july
first
workforce
reductions
would
be
a
reduction
of
177
thousand
based
on
the
average
salary,
for
that
would
be
for
employees.
The
anticipated
workforce
reductions
again
in
both
the
office
of
mayor
and
equity
are
40
percent
higher
than
those
of
other
businesses
or
other
bureaus
and
departments.
B
A
Thank
you
director,
organic,
and
do
we
want
to
start
with
majestic?
Do
you
want
to
have
something
you
want
to
start
with
presentation.
F
Yes,
yes,
and
thank
you,
madam
president,
just
really
wanted
to
talk
about
kind
of
on
the
heels
of
what
mayor
peduto
spoke
about.
Was
that
we're
living
in
a
really
unique
time
in
regard
to
the
work
of
thinking
about
equity,
one?
F
Obviously,
the
economic
impacts
that
have
occurred
this
year,
that
in
many
senses
has
had
an
outsized
impact
on
gender
race,
neighborhood
and
the
things
that
we
traditionally
know
have
been
the
challenges
within
not
just
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
the
entire
country
right,
race
and
gender
and
class.
And
you
know
the
segregation
are
not
unique
to
pittsburgh.
F
There
are
national
issues,
as
we
see
with
the
second
reckoning
of
sorts,
looking
at
the
racial
reckoning
and
and
things
that
have
been
happening
in
in
our
country,
around
race,
from
local
local
demonstrations
to
national
demonstrations
and
from
local
shifts
in
behavior
to
national
shifts
and
behavior,
and
then
the
third
one
is
also
this.
Reality
of
health
and
ochs
will
have
a
conversation,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
really
note
the
health
disparities
that
were
talked
about
in
the
gen
directory
report
last
year.
F
That
we
see
came
to
pass
locally
and
nationally
around
the
health
disparities
and
further
aggravating
what
was
already
already
challenges.
So
for
us
this
year
it's
been
to
pivot.
It's
been
to
be
able
to
do
the
things
that
we
set
out
to
do
that
we
know
were
structural.
That
we
know
were
programmatic,
that
we
know
were
important
to
our
citizens,
to
counsel
and
to
the
mayor
in
his
leadership.
F
But,
as
you
know,
chief
powell
and
I
will
speak
about
also
a
pivot
of
making
sure
people
are
fed
working
with
departments
and
working
with
omb
to
make
sure
resources
get
to
the
appropriate
organizations
because
of
highlighted
challenges
that
we've
had
this
year.
So
we've
had
to
stay
the
road
on
some
things,
but
also
pivot,
on
other
things,
as
well
as
try
to
make
sure
we're
advancing
policy.
F
We're
advancing.
You
know
from
a
policy
perspective,
things
that
will
make
the
city
better
going
forward.
So
it's
been
a
unique
opportunity
to
serve
and
being
able
to
partner
with
so
many
council
members,
as
well
as
departments
and
other
stakeholders,
so
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
share
that.
That's
like
kind
of
the
framework
that
is
that's
been
what
our
year
has
been
like,
and
I
wanted
to
give
chief
powell
an
opportunity
to
to
add
on.
A
F
G
President,
just
very
briefly,
I
I
want
to
add
just
to
make
sure
that
council
and
those
listening
understand
and
are
clear
about
the
roles
and
initiatives
within
the
office
of
equity
included.
We
have
a
manager
that
works
on
youth
and
early
childhood
work,
anything
from
the
dolly
parton
imagination,
library,
to
working
with
community
stakeholders
to
ensure
that
the
two
million
dollars
for
the
childhood
fund
is
is
being
worked
through
and
exactly
to
early
childhood
centers.
G
We
have
someone
that
works
on
welcoming
pittsburgh,
which
is
our
initiative
on
immigrants,
migrants
and
refugees
during
the
pandemic
and
outside
they've
done
fantastic
work.
We've
levied
a
half
a
million
dollar
cash
assistance
program
for.
G
They've
also
worked
on
the
census,
ensuring
that
we've
had
a
record
number
of
participants
there,
as
well
as
making
sure
that
during
covid
we
are
providing
culturally
competent
services,
so
in
particular
where
there
are
some
cultural
concerns
about
making
sure
that
information
about
covet
is
being
translated
correctly,
that
we're
making
sure
that
we
have
programming,
that's
appropriate
to
some
of
the
cultural
differences
that
some
of
our
immigrant
migrant
and
refugee
populations
work
through
they've
been
fantastic
in
terms
of
providing
testing
providing
supports,
including
a
weekly
call
with
providers
within
the
welcoming
space
to
ensure
that
resource
sharing
and
support
were
available
for
for
all
included
as
well.
G
In
the
office
of
equity.
Is
our
business
and
growth,
business
growth
and
inclusion
work
from
working
with
planning,
as
well
as
small
businesses,
to
ensure
again
during
the
pandemic,
they're
able
to
transition
to
either
outside
eating
growing
online
so
that
their
businesses
are
still
able
to
function
as
well
as
making
sure
that
folks
are
connected
to
the
resources
that
at
the
ura,
like
the
micro
loan
program
and
others?
We
have
a
my
brother's
keeper
coordinator.
G
Additionally,
we
have
a
critical
communities
manager
we've
talked
about
their
work
extensively
and
we'll
talk
about
it
more
on
thursday,
as
they're
transitioning,
to
lead
the
office
of
community
health
and
safety
within
the
office
of
equity.
We
also
work
on
lgbtqia
plus
issues
from
creating
a
advisory
council
to
move
to
a
commission
as
well
as
making
sure
that
our
policies
within
the
city
speak
to
equity.
G
In
that
sense,
our
mwbe
work
is
also
located
within
the
office
of
equity,
making
sure
that
we
are
hitting
above
and
beyond
our
eighteen
and
seven
percent
mwbe
goals
and
then,
lastly,
the
policy
team,
which
I
managed
directly,
is
located
underneath
the
office
of
equity.
G
Our
job
is
to
support
both
the
mayor's
office
and
the
managers
within
the
office
of
equity.
To
make
sure
that
we
are
writing,
researching
and
crafting
policy
that
that
furthered
the
mayor's
vision
I
can,
if
it's,
you
know
defer
to
you,
council
president,
but
whatever
is
easiest,
we
can
go
through
specific
accomplishments
for
each
manager
or
each
initiative,
or
we
can
kind
of
talk
generally
about
the
office.
G
But
there
are
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
with
the
office
of
equity
and
we
have
a
fantastic
group
of
folks
that
do
this
work
day
and
day
out
and
want.
G
That
council
is
aware
of
the
fantastic
work
that
they
do
so.
A
I
think
we'll
have
council
members,
ask
open
it
up
for
members
first
and
then,
if
there's
something
that
you
need
to
say
that
we
haven't
touched
upon,
then
we'll
give
you
that
few
minutes
at
the
end,
just
to
say
whatever
it
is,
that
you'd
like
to
to
make
sure
that
we
might
have
missed
or
acknowledge
that,
and
I
want
to
say
for
me
personally.
This
is
one
of
the
offices
I
probably
work
with
the
most
other
than
dan
gilman.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
very
much
for
the
work
that
you
do
do
we
have
members
have
any
questions.
A
I
L
Because
I
wanted
to,
I
have
another
engagement
I
wanted
to
try
and
see,
but
yeah.
I
just
had
one
question.
I
see
that
the
you
know
the
critical
cue
that
was
laura
dragowski's
position
and
since
you'll
make
the
transition,
can
you
just
elaborate
on
like
what
that
gap
looks
like
and
or
is
that
whole
responsibility
being
transferred
over
to
the
the
new
health
and
safety
office?
Yeah.
F
Yeah,
I
think
what
what
you'll
see
now
is
before
it
was
within
our
office,
and
we
were
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
were
serving,
as
you
know,
that
facilitator
of
the
challenges
of
kind
of
what
I
call
health
in
the
public
sphere
and
then
also
public
safety
right
and
so
now,
you'll
have
that
office
that
will
be
able
to
work
with
all
offices,
but
also
directly
keeping
a
relationship.
F
You
know,
within
the
mayor's
office
and
office
of
equity,
around
really
keeping
the
intersectional
and,
as
chief
gilman
talked
about
the
relationship
between
the
enhanced
engagement
and
enhanced
investment
in
the
public
safety
work
that
many
of
our
gvr
work,
gvi
folks
are
doing
and
as
well
as
many
of
the
communities
have
been
doing
for
so
long
that
really
connecting
tying
those
in
and
so
we've
really
been
a
part
of.
F
How
do
we
connect
and
tie
that
traditional
public
health
work
done
around
violence
as
a
public
health
issue,
with
some
of
the
other
challenges
around
public
health,
and
I
mean
like
health,
some
of
the
challenges
we
see
that
are
happening
in
the
public
sphere,
with
addiction,
homelessness,
opioid,
challenges
and
really
you
know,
merging
and
making
sure
they're
working
together
and
coordinating
that
and
then
making
sure
that
that's
connected
to
the
communities,
the
various
communities
that
we
also
work
with.
F
So
it
will
be
something
that
won't
kind
of
go
away
and
over
there
as
connected
to
equity,
but
directly
having
an
equity
lens
and
making
sure
it's
connected
to
the
broader
vision
of
making
sure
that
public
health,
whether
it's
violence
or
some
of
our
mental
emotional
and
other
health
issues,
are
centered
within
the
equity
lens
of
race
and
communities
that
traditionally
have
not
been
as
engaged
in
that
way,.
L
All
right,
great
yeah,
thanks
thanks
for
elaborating
on
that,
and
I
can't
I
can't
speak
enough
about
how
I'm
you
know
interested
in
in
bringing
you
know,
gbi
and
different
group.
You
know
violence,
prevention
or
violence
prevention
in
general
and
having
those
outreach
workers
in
my
in
my
district,
alongside
the
outreach
for
homelessness
as
well-
and
I
think
that's
just
going
to
be
such
a
big
part
moving
forward.
L
I
know
especially
for
myself,
even
just
you
know,
making
better
partnerships
with
what
already
exists,
but
also
seeing
this
expand
in
ways
and
how
your
office
will
be.
You
know,
be
joining
in
the
efforts.
I
was
at
a
community
meeting
recently
where
you
know
I
brought
a
lot
of
the
city
police
staff
to
the
meeting,
but
also
cornell
and
and
ty
lee
to
the
cornell
jones
and
tyler
thompson
meeting,
and
it
was
a
good
moment
because
you
know
the
community.
L
We
need
some
other
avenues
that
we
need
to
go
down
and
to
really
hear
that
repeated
twice
by
the
off
by
the
commanders,
and
the
officers
was
really
a
moment
where
we
were
able
to
move
on
move
on
move
the
conversation
into
violence
prevention
and
what's
needed
there
and
how
the
investment
the
communities
needed
in
that
way,
and
we
were
able
to
you-
know
open
the
conversation
up
to
the
community
for
them
to
really
understand.
L
You
know
just
really
what
what
the
name
of
your
office
is
just
equity
and
how
we,
you
know,
get
that
out
to
the
the
communities
that
need
it
the
most,
so
you
know
for
spinning
our
wheels.
Well,
let's
start
talking
about.
You
know
what
we
should
be
focusing
on,
how
we
really
fill
those
gaps
in
the
places
that
need
it
the
most.
L
So
I
really
appreciate
your
office,
I'm
looking
forward
to
see
how
your
office
is
going
to
communicate
with
this
new
office
and
also
how
you
know
I
can
be
a
partner
in
that
so
absolutely
yeah,
so
councilman
gross.
I
appreciate.
Let
me
go
first
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
All.
I
Thank
you,
president
smith.
I
have
a
couple
of
things
I
want
to
follow
up
on
director
powell.
You
mentioned
first
of
all,
the
two
million
dollars
that
council
the
council
women's
caucus
put
into
place
for
child
care
some
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
2017..
I
don't
think
council
is
up
to
date.
Oh
director
lane
you've
got
your
chief
lane.
You've
got
your.
B
I
That'll
help
the
we
haven't
gotten
updated
right.
The
last
thing
I
think
we've
heard
is
that
none
of
the
dollars
had
moved
out
to
actually
to
actual
outcomes.
So
could
you
update
us
on
that.
G
Absolutely
so,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
especially
with
your
role
with
the
gender
equity
commission-
and
it
has
been
very
difficult
to
move
that
money
out
from
the
trust
fund.
Because
of
some
concerns
that
our
law
department
has
had
with
how
those
those
funds
are
dispensed.
G
I'm
happy
and
pleased
to
say
that
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
a
lot
of
portman
and
have
come
to
a
space
where
they
are
comfortable
with
the
dispersal
method
as
as
written
and
so
hopefully,
and
we'll
have
more
a
more
robust
update
for
council
as
there
has
to
be
most
likely
a
vote
in
order
to
again
dispose
that
money
and
get
it
back
into
the
community.
But
tiffany
has
been
working
very
closely
to
make
sure
that
the
goals
of
the.
I
Cooperative
agreement
with
a
non-profit
that
we
didn't
know
who
they
were,
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
details,
but
then
this
year
you
renewed
the
cooperative
agreement
to
be
with
the
county.
Yes,
so
oh
change
the
clock,
so
you
know
nullified
the
last
cooperate
agreement
and
created
a
new
cooperative
agreement
with
the
county,
so
that
is
the
county
is
going
to
do
kind
of.
If
you
could
maybe
talk
us
through
like
which
or
give
just.
F
So
so,
prior
the
county
has
a
pass-through
if
you
will
or
space
they
use
to
receive
resources
from
externally.
But
if
the
actual
organization
is
not
a
part
of
the
county,
they
have
a
relationship
with
the
county.
So
legally
our
law,
you
know
legally,
the
law
department
said
well,
the
mlu
is
not
actually
with
the
county,
it
would
be
with
the
pastor,
which
was
a
challenge
right,
and
that
was
the
non-profit
that
we
had
spoke
on.
G
I
Approved
an
initial
cooperative
agreement
between
this
was
between
the
city
and
one
of
the
subcontractors.
Yes,
it
was
a
nonprofit.
Most
of
them
are
non-profit
social
service
agencies.
The
things
you
see
in
your
neighborhoods
that
are
the
places
you
would
go
to
in
crisis
or
for
services,
and
then
so
this
year
we
dirt
contract.
We
did
the
cooperative
agreement,
which
is
like
a
mou
or
a
contract
light
with
the
with
the
county
itself.
Yes,
okay,
so
and
but
the
goal
is
what.
L
F
F
The
resources
will
go
in
order
to
help
organize.
You
know:
child
care
organizations
and
child
care
facilities
make
sure
they
get
access
to
the
resources
that
will
allow
them
to
improve
their
services
and
also.
H
B
I
Keystone
stars
subsidizes
the
rates
right.
If
you
are
a
higher
rated
facility,
then
you
get
some
income,
so
you
don't
have
to
charge
your
customers
as
much.
That
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
I
would
hope
we
could
do
with
this
money.
I
don't
you
know
again.
We
can
have
a
separate
briefing
about
it
and
I
think
it's
overdue
and
we
really.
We
have
a
lot
of
pressure
on
us
to
do
more
for
child
care.
Centers
I
mean
this
is
the
pot
of
money
we
created.
So
if
I.
G
May
very
quickly,
I
think,
that's
exactly
the
point
is
to
use
those
resources
within
the
two
million
dollars
to
invest
in
particular
pieces
of
either
equipment
or
capital
equipment.
That'll
move
them
up
in
the
stars,
ranking
so
you'll
have
say
a
particular
number
of
books
will
move
you
from
a
two-star
facility
to
a
three-star
facility.
G
If
you
have
a
different
enter
egress,
you
know
you
might
need
a
railing
on
your
your
your
entrance
like
that,
will
get
you
to
move
up
in
the
start
ranking,
and
so
it's
not
just
you
know,
funding
for
funding
sake
or
trying
to
beautify
a
space.
It's
more.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
investing
in
things
that
will
improve
that
particular
center's
ranking
so
that
we're
able
to
provide
better
services
and
a
higher
quality
higher
quality
care
to
that
individual?
To
that
child?.
I
Okay,
we've
been
waiting
for
a
few
years.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this
point.
We
have
been
waiting
for
a
few
years
and
this
if
there's,
if
there
was
any
time
to
move
it,
it
would
be
now
and
if
we
see
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
the
r8
130
and
if
they
have
added
the
capacity
to
move
some
of
that
to
move
their
money,
it
may
be
that
council
needs
to
look
at
switching
to
make
their
fund
more
robust,
too
just
an
idea
out
there.
I
But
let
me
switch
the
topic
a
little
bit
direct
or
chief
lane.
You
have
the
task
that
we
talked
about
a
year
ago
to
enforce
paid
sick
leave.
Another
thing
that
all
council
members
have
probably
gotten
inquiries
about
right
I
mean
I
open
my
my
mail
and
I
have
people
saying
like
I'm
a
I'm.
A
restaurant
server
is
I'm
I'm
at
home
for
covid.
Does
my
employer
have
to
pay
me?
Could
you
talk
about
what
your
office
is
doing?
How
are
you
enforcing?
F
Absolutely
so
one
of
as
everyone
the
council
knows,
and
also
for
the
public,
the
way
that
our
basically
was
written.
It
was
that
it
went
into
effect,
as
every
people
may
know,
right
before
kind
of
things
shut
down
the
first
shutdown
for
kovit
and
within
that
process
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
year
of
actually
making
sure
that
businesses
and
individuals
could
start
to
work
together
to
see
how
the
actual
process
began
to
work
now,
obviously
with
with
covid
and
with
all
the
things
that
are
happening.
F
That
became
much
more
important
and
also
we
started
to
see.
Actually
some
things
happen
on
a
federal
level
within
the
within
the
cares
act
that
also
gave
front
loaded
people
to
have
access
to
pay
sick
leave,
because
our
paid
sick
leave
model
as
far
as
actually
investigating
and
making
sure
who's
doing
it
or
not
doing
it
kicks
in
within
2021..
F
You
also
see
that
last
week
that
that
the
mayor's
office
introduced
the
ability
to
also
do
some
front
loading
much
in
a
way
that
the
federal
government
was
able
to
was
able
to
do
it
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
help
people,
especially
right
awareness
crisis
right
now,
and
we
also
were
able
to
hire
someone
that
works
within
our
office
of
business.
Diversity
on
paid
sick
leave,
who
is,
along
with
our
legal
or
law
office,
fielding
complaints
and
fielding
things
are
going
on
and
being
able
to
reply
to
folks
who
have
issues.
F
So
if
you
have
people
who
are
calling
you,
please
send
them
to
me
and
we'll
make
sure
that
they
get
a
response
from
folks
and
also
getting
people
together
to
be
able
to
talk
about
once
the
law
takes
place.
What
does
it
look
like?
F
I
Thank
you
that's
good
to
hear,
and
I
also
want
to
kind
of
acknowledge
that
the
office
has
been
working
with
your
office
has
been
working
with
the
gender
equity
commission
on
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
move
forward
on
the
deliverables.
I
won't
say
policies.
The
policy
is
a
good
place
to
start,
but
then
you
have
to
implement
them
and
you
guys
are
the
administration.
So
it's
your
job
to
implement
them
and
not
just
have
the
ideas.
I
I
If
you
search
building
an
equitable
new,
normal
and
gender
equity
commission,
there
are
some
11
points,
many
of
which
we've
covered
in
other
budget
hearings
around
policing,
etcetera
and
quality,
early
childhood
education,
making
investments
supporting
local
and
women.
Don't
businesses
when
we
talk
about
local
business,
which
we
have
a
lot
today
already.
I
Those
are
disproportionately
female,
headed
businesses,
as
opposed
to
big
business
right
where
we
also
are
trying
to
foster
leadership,
development
boards
and
commissions
and
in
in
corporate
sector
as
well.
I
But
we
don't
want
to
forget
that
our
small
business
sector
is
is
where
we
see
a
lot
of
women
building
wealth
and
then
the
last
thing
that
I
again
council
and
the
public
have
not
heard
an
update
on
is
piloting
a
universal
basic
income
program
which
the
gender
equity
commission
advocated
for
in
this
public
statement
that
I
referred
to
and
then
shortly
afterward
there
was
an
announcement
from
the
mayor's
office
that
pittsburgh
was
going
to
be
participating
in
what
was,
I
think
he
called
a
general
income
program
and
which
is
very
exciting,
but
we
haven't
heard
any
updates.
F
Yes,
please
tell
us
absolutely
so
as
a
part
of
the
office
of
equity.
At
the
you
know,
we
we
have
the
report
of
the
the
new
normal
kind
of
document
from
the
gender
equity
commission,
we've
partnering
with
the
economic
security
group
and
mayors
from
across
the
country.
It's
mgi.
F
It's
called
mayors
for
guaranteed
income
guaranteed
income
is
making
a
slight
distinction
from
universal
basic
income,
because
that
would
call
to
make
sure
everyone
got
a
certain
number
versus
what
we
know
is
that
through
this
time,
and
also
through
the
report
that
was
released
last
year,
that
women
of
color
and
black
women
in
particular,
have
been
most
impacted
by
the
things
that
impacting
plague
our
city.
So
the
idea
along
those
lines
is
to
a
guaranteed
income
pilot.
F
Then
there
will
not
be
any
no
city
money
in
in
taxpayer,
money
invested
in
it,
but
to
partner
with
the
economic
security
group,
mayors
for
guaranteed
income
and
local
partners
to
be
able
to
do
a
pilot
that
would
actually
focus
on
african-american
women,
knowing
that
that
takes
them,
as
you
also
know,
as
part
of
the
work
that
happens,
that
it
takes
african-american
women
23
months
to
earn
what
a
white
man
earns
in
12
months,
and
so
we
know
that
they,
black
women
have
been
most
impacted,
not
only
through
just
a
traditional
segregation
and
traditional
disparities
in
our
city.
F
But
specifically
those
have
been
exacerbated,
as
you
spoke
on
during
this
time.
So
it's
a
guaranteed
income
program
called
ace,
pgh
and
right
now
we're
just
in
the
model
of
being
able
to
continue
to
find
develop
partnerships
to
be
able
to
facilitate
the
program.
Because,
again,
you
can't
use
any
taxpayer
revenue
to
to
do
it.
But
we
do
have
partnerships
with
our
financial
empowerment.
Centers
we've
been
having
a
number
of
conversations
with
philanthropy
and
corporate
folks
because-
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
interest
on
really
talking
about.
F
If
you
make
these
levels
of
investments,
can
you
see
the
pilot
of
what
happens
and
what
people
are
paying
for
how
they
will
stabilize
their
lives
and
then,
as
the
mayor
talked
about,
it
even
plays
into?
What
does
our
tax
policy
look
like
and
how?
If
we're
able
to
be
more
supportive
of
people
from
a
tax
policy
perspective,
can
they
stabilize
themselves
and
and
versus
being
very
specific
on
how
we
give
resources
right
now,
through
our
health
and
human
services
system,
we're
very
specific
on
how
we
give
resources
to
peoples?
I
I
supported
the
idea,
so
I
don't
you
know
I
support
the
idea
and
advocating
for
it
to
be
included
in
the
recommendations
that
were
made
over
the
summer,
but
the
time
again
I'll
just
say
a
gentle
urging
here
the
time
is
people
are
in
crisis
now
right,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
study
this
to
death
or
wait
for
the
partners
for
years,
like
we've
had
to
for
some
other
programs
right
and
so
can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
when
we
might
see
this
money
move?
I
And
I
I
will
say
also
that
we
we
do
cash
assistance.
We
figure
out
those
sorts
of
funds
right.
So
I
think
director
powell,
you
spoke
about
the
amount
of
direct
assistance
that
we've
been
able
to
give
people
during
covet,
and
maybe
you
could
identify
what
those
yeah
revenue
sources
were,
because
I
think
the
cares
acts.
Maybe
funds
were
unrestricted
except
no,
all
right.
G
G
Is
it
was
private
dollars
so
for
the
oakland
society
foundation
work
that
we
were
doing
with
gasa,
san
jose
and
other
immigrant
migrant
refugee
organizations
in
the
city,
the
funding
came
from
a
private
private
foundation
that
has
been
working
with
cities
across
the
country
to
provide
varied
amounts
of
funding
for
this
type
of
work,
and
so
back
to
chief
lane's
initial
point:
is
you
know,
on
the
city
side
we're
ready
to
go
we're
in
the
process
of
hiring
a
manager?
It's
the
you
know
difficult
task
of
fundraising.
G
You
know
the
three
million
dollars,
plus
that's
needed
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you're,
not
stopping
the
pilot
midway
because
you
have
to
fundraise
for
the
rest
of
it.
And
so
there's
not
a
you
know.
There's
definitely
an
urgency
from
the
team
wanting
to
get
this
off
the
ground
and
making
sure
that
people's
needs
are
met
and
that
we're
able
to
prove
that
programs
like
these
giving
folks
agency
to
to
kind
of
take
care
of
their
own
needs.
I
G
G
The
idea
is
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
partnership
like
the
idea
is
that
you
know
we
want
to
again
make
sure
that
we're
rolling
out
something
that's
fully
baked.
The
worst
thing
that
you
could
do
to
a
person
is
start
them
off
on
a
program
with
where
they're
getting
500
a
month
guaranteed
and
then
whoops
we've
got
no
more
funding
and
this
person,
who
might
have
been
relying
on
being
in
this
pilot
for
a
year
two
years.
G
No
longer
has
that,
and
so
you
know,
it'll
be
a
partnership
as
we've
seen
in
stockton,
where
this
idea
was
first
really
rolled
out
for
a
mid-sized
major
city,
they've
got
private
foundation
money
as
well
as
corporate
money
and
we're
hoping
to
replicate
that
same
type
of
partnership.
Here
in
pittsburgh,.
I
For
12
months
you
said
the
pilot
is
for
two
years.
I
Okay,
so
I'm
just
literally
using
my
calculator
on
my
phone
to
divide
three
million
by
24
months
by
500,
so
you're
looking
about
250
households-
yes
great
great,
that
sounds
very
exciting.
I'll
just
say:
let's
just
hammer
that
point
as
among
council
members
that
we
are
looking,
we
have,
the
administration
has
everything
in
place.
We
could
start
a
guaranteed
income
program
now
when
it's
needed.
If
we
had
local
dollars
at
the
committed
for
three
million
dollars
to
cover
250
households
over
24
months.
I
That's
what
I'm
understanding
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
work.
It's
really
important
that
we
support
people
through
this
time.
This
is
how
the
city
is
going
to
come
together
and
at
one
point
just
to
bring
these
two
things
together.
I
just
said
I
would
stop,
but
I've
said
it
in
other
hearings.
I
You
may
have
noticed,
but
the
public
may
have
not
in
one
of
my
neighborhoods
bloomfield,
the
neighborhood
organization
raised
just
a
few
thousand
dollars
and
awarded
500
cash
payments,
and
all
of
the
applicants
and
recipients
were
unemployed
from
neighbor
businesses
and
their
their
city
residents
unemployed
from
city
businesses,
and
that's
why
they
need
cash
assistance.
So
I
really
think
there's
a
kind
of
triple
bottom
line
here
where
we're
providing.
I
You
know
the
support
that
our
neighbors
need,
but
we're
really
reinvesting
in
ourselves
and
keeping
these
dollars
so
that
our
small
businesses
can
get
through
this
as
well,
and
that's
why
we
have
to
fight
really
hard,
I
think,
collectively
in
our
public
policy
and
at
the
neighborhood
levels,
to
support
our
small
businesses
so
that
they
continue
to
be
there
to
provide
local
wealth
and
local
jobs
as
we
get
through
the
other
side.
That's
what
I'm
saying.
B
K
Thank
you.
Welcome
director
powell
majestic
my
man
looking
good
how's
everything.
K
Good
good,
so
it
sounds
like
you
guys,
really
have
a
you
know
a
firm
grasp
on
you
know
recognizing
the
disparities
you
know,
as
far
as
say,
for
instance,
from
a
black
woman
to
a
white
man.
As
far
as
the
pay
disparities
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
I'm
all
about
data,
you
know
data's
great
to
have.
Statistics
are
great
to
have
I'm
more
interested,
though
you
know
taking
action
as
far
as
you
know,
once
we
do
recognize
where
the
biggest
disparities
are
and
when
I
say
taking
action
majestic.
K
I
think
you
and
I
talked
about
this
before
I
would
like
to
do
in
my
district
sort
of
a
job
fair
of
some
sort.
You
know,
whereas
young
inner
city,
kids,
like
myself,
who
really
you
know,
didn't,
have
the
means
for
a
great
education,
but
you
know
a
jobs
fair.
Where
we
get
to
building
trades
plumbers,
electricians,
roofing
contractors,
you
name
it
and
teaching
kids,
you
know
how
to
use
a
hammer
or
you
know,
to
to
make
a
living,
because
you
can
make
a
good
living
at
it.
K
You
were
on
with
the
mayor,
and
I
was
talking
about
the
lack
of
you
know
contractors
here
we
can't
we
can't
get
somebody
to
come
into
the
city
and
work
for
fifty
thousand
dollars,
because
the
work's
too
good
out
there
and
I
can
speak
for
the
roofing
business.
I
turn
more
work
down
than
I
take.
So
you
know
the
abundance.
Is
there
it's
just
a
matter
of
teaching
kids
and
giving
them
that
opportunity?
K
F
So
what
we
can
do
councilman
is,
as
you
know,
I
represent
the
mayor
on
the
partner
for
work
board
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
relationships
developed
with
executive
director,
errol
buford
in
the
builders
guild
and
the
contractors,
and
really
coming
together
to
be
open
to
engaging
communities
that
traditionally
haven't
been
engaged
in
ways
that
you
haven't.
We
haven't
seen
in
pittsburgh
thus
far,
but
what
we
can
do
is
have
a
conversation
about
some
targeted
engagement
in
you
know
your
south
hills
district.
F
I
mean
it's
open
to
anyone,
obviously
any
council
person,
but
some
targeted
engagement
of
the
resources
and
opportunities
that
are
there
that
sometimes
there's
a
just,
sometimes
there's
just
a
break
between
people's
ability
to
know
that
there's
a
training
program
or
it
might
be
a
particular
local,
but
they
might
be
good
at
something
else
right.
Some
kids
go
to
hvac,
but
the
steam
fitters
are
doing
something
on
banksville
right.
F
So
we
can
do
a
little
more
targeted
engagement,
because
also
what
we
know
is
that,
even
during
this
time
that
companies
need
more
and
more
people
and
we're
getting
people
trained
and
people
are
getting
access
to
opportunities.
F
But
it's
sometimes
a
distinction
in
the
communication
and
making
sure
that
what
the
builders
guild
and
what
partner
for
work
is
presenting
is
also
touching
every
community,
so
I'll
be
willing
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
engage
that
in
a
broader
way,
with
communities
that
may
not
have
as
many
training
programs
localized
in
the
areas,
which
is
also
just
a
challenge
that
often
there's
groups
that
have
training
programs
and
they're,
not
always
in
they're,
not
spread
equally
throughout
the
city.
K
So
no,
no
thanks
for
that
majestic
and
no,
I
I
plan
to
do
sort
of
a
job
fair
in
my
own
district,
and
you
know,
but
I
didn't
know,
is
that
something
I'd
partner
with
you.
Yeah.
K
You
know
majestic
I've
already
got
the
professionals
I
want
there
and
you
know
the
different
pipe
types
of
professions.
I
want
people
to
talk
about.
Maybe
we
can
sit
down
or
you
know
zoom
sometime
over
the
next
month,
and
I
love
that
you
know
providing
the
times
change
and
we're
able
to
get
say
a
bunch
of
kids
in
the
gym
or
wherever
we
decide
to
hold
it.
You
know
so
so!
No,
okay,
that's
good!
I
I
you
know.
K
I
look
forward
to
that
for
me,
there's
nothing
more
valuable
than
you
know,
teaching
somebody
something
and
having
professionals
there
that
are
going
to
say
yeah.
We
will
we'll
give
you
an
internship,
for
instance
steamfitters
or
boilermakers
having
them.
You
know
commit
to
an
internship
for
one
of
these
children
that
or
young
you
know
the
job
fair.
So,
okay,
I
look
forward
to
talking
to
you
with
that.
Thanks
for
what
you
all
do
and.
A
Take
care,
thank
you,
councilman!
Are
there
any
other
members
seeing
no
other
members?
I
will
just
add
that
I'd
like
to
work
with
you
too,
on
some
of
the
things
with
the
the
employment
programs
in
our
district,
but
I
really
want
you
to
work
with
christy
porter.
Who
has
the
you
know
the
project
in
our
district
and
she's
doing
the
most
amazing
work
over
there
and
I,
if
you
haven't,
had
a
tour
there.
A
I
hope
the
two
of
you
will
take
a
tour
and
I'd
be
happy
to
arrange
that
for
you
to
go
over
and
just
meet
with
her
and
see
the
mayor
has
been
doing
a
lot.
The
uras
have
been
helping,
and
I
I
just
want
to
see
us
continue
to
do
things
to
help
build
up
that
program,
because
it's
amazing
for
our
district
and
the
building
trades
most
of
the
unions
are
in
my
district
and
there's
no
reason
there
shouldn't
be
some
collaboration
in
there.
A
So
that's
why
I
laid
down
the
gauntlet
like
no
they're
in
my
district,
but
anyway
I
just
want
to
thank
you
both
for
and
all
your
office
staff
for
for
everything
that
they're
doing
they're
doing
a
lot
in
all
of
our
areas,
and-
and
I
know
that
you
put
a
lot
of
time-
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
everything.
Thank.
A
Thank
you
and
now
we're
going
to
start
with
the
controller's
office
and
we
have
about
40
minutes
before
we
start
our
next
meeting.
So
if
we
could
have
director
urbanic
read
something
for
the
controller
good
morning
controller.
B
Good
morning
sure,
good
morning,
good
morning,
good
morning,
yeah,
the
the
city
controller
serves
as
the
physical
watchdog
for
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
It's
the
job
of
the
controller
to
protect
city
tax
dollars
from
waste
fraud
and
abuse,
as
well
as
to
suggest
improvements
to
city
services
and
compliance.
B
The
controller
does
this
by
auditing
all
city
government
related
expenditures.
The
city
also
has
the
finance
department
and
treasurer
who
collect
and
audit
all
city
revenues.
The
controller
also
conducts
audits
of
all
city
departments
and
city
authorities
such
as
the
urban
redevelopment
authority,
pittsburgh
parking
authority,
pittsburgh,
water
and
sewer
authority
and
pittsburgh
housing
authority
through
audits
of
city
departments
and
authorities.
The
controller
makes
recommendations
on
how
to
make
those
departments
more
effective,
efficient
and
how
to
better
spend
city
tax
dollars,
controllers
also
responsible
for
producing
the
city's
annual
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
B
The
controller's
office
has
several
different
divisions:
accounting
accounts,
payable
performance,
audit,
fiscal
audits
and
engineering
in
the
budget
this
year.
The
total
budget
for
the
controller's
office
is
four
million
five
hundred
and
one
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
decrease
from
what
was
anticipated
in
the
five-year
plan
of
449,
000
or
9.1
percent.
B
Total
full-time
positions
are
57
the
same
as
last
year.
Unlike
the
other
departments,
the
office
has
not
eliminated
positions
in
this
budget
and
did
not
reduce
their
non-salary
budget
and
does
not
contain
an
anticipated
july
first
workforce
reduction
line
item.
Instead,
the
controller
the
vacancy
allowance
in
the
controller's
office
was
increased
from
71
000
to
355
000,
giving
that
same
kind
of
effect
as
the
july
1st,
but
allowing
the
managerial
choices
to
be
made
through
the
controller's
leadership.
B
A
M
Yeah,
if
I
could
thank
you
very
much
and
then
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
see
everyone
today,
you
know
we
just
like
everyone
else
in
the
city
on
march
16th,
we
went
to
a
remote
work
model
in
our
office.
This
was
actually
something
we
had
been
planning
to
do
as
a
pilot
to
see
how
working
from
home
would
work
for
some
of
our
employees,
and
I
am
I'm
glad
to
say
that
so
far
you
know.
Given
the
circumstances,
it's
actually
worked
pretty
well.
M
You
know
our
auditors
have
been
very
productive
working
from
home,
you
know
being
in
several
departments,
including
the
police,
where
we
looked
at
secondary
employment,
inp
parks,
as
well
as
the
parks
conservancy.
M
The
public
works,
looking
at
street
maintenance
and
a
number
of
other
audits
that
we
did
both
fiscal
and
performance
this
year
and
for
the
most
part,
working
from
home.
We
also
were
able
to
complete
and
release
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report
on
time,
which
I
consider
may
1st.
We
were
able
to
do
that
in
the
end
of
april.
So
that's
another
year
where
we
met
that
that
objective
of
getting
that
report
out
in
a
timely
fashion
and
again
for
the
most
part
working
from
home
right
now,
our
auditors
are
working
from
home.
M
Every
day
our
accounting
staff
comes
in
once
a
week
just
to
pick
up
work
to
take
it
home
and
work
on
from
home.
Our
inspectors
are,
for
the
most
part
out
in
the
field,
so
they're
and
they're
out
doing
their
work
and
our
invoicing
and
accounts
payable.
Folks,
we've
gone
to
skeleton
crew
there,
where
we
have
people
come
in
and
process
invoices
in
a
much
smaller
and
socially
distant
fashion,
so
as
to
keep
everyone
safe
and
to
continue
to
do
the
city's
business.
M
So
it's
been
a
it's
been
an
interesting
year.
Obviously
I'm
looking
forward
to
2021.
Let
me
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we
did
what
we
did
with
respect
to
budget
and
it
echoes
a
little
bit
of
what
I
heard
councilwoman
gross
say
earlier,
which
was
you
know.
We
have
never
really
fully
recovered
the
positions
we
lost
during
act.
47
and
council's
been
very
good
about
helping
to
restore
a
lot
of
those
positions
over
the
last
few
years.
So,
prior
to
act
47
we
were
at
72
positions.
M
We
dropped
all
the
way
down
to
about
48
positions
at
one
point
and
we've
slowly
built
that
back
to
right
now,
where
we
have
the
equivalent
of
about
57
positions,
because
we've
added
some
auditors,
some
auditor
positions.
Now
what
we
did
starting
in
march,
obviously
is
we
went
immediately
into
a
freeze,
a
hiring
freeze.
M
We
haven't
hired
any
positions
this
year,
that's
created
a
number
of
vacancies
in
our
office
and
what
I've
agreed
to
with
the
peduto
administration
is
that
I
would,
I
agreed
not
to
fill
those
jobs
until
we
get
a
better
understanding
of
any
potential
federal
funding.
Moving
forward.
I
didn't
want
to
eliminate
the
jobs
because,
as
you
know,
we
spent
so
much
time
and
effort
re-uh.
M
You
know
re-upping
those
jobs
in
this
office
that
we
didn't
want
to
have
to
go
through
that
again
and
so
we're
we're
meeting
the
same
financial
demand
and
I
would
arguably
say
we're
actually
doing
better
than
a
lot
of
the
other
departments
when
it
comes
to
the
savings
that
will
generate,
particularly
when
you
consider
what
we're
generating
this
year,
along
with
what
we'll
consider
what
will
generate
next
year.
M
So
I
feel
very
strong
good
about
where
we
stand
and
our
ability
to
generate
the
savings
that
will
be
required
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
a
better
resolution.
As
the
mayor
said
today
with
some
federal
assistance
as
we
move
forward,
there
are
just
a
couple
of
things
I
did
want
to
mention
as
we
move
forward,
because
I
I
listened
to
the
mayor's
presentation
today
and
I
and
I
agree
with
so
much
of
what
he
said.
But
I
do
just
want
to
send
a
cautionary
note
about
a
couple
of
things.
M
First
off
the
the
issue
over
reviewing
taxation,
which
I
think
is
a
healthy
discussion,
something
that
we
need
to
do
on
a
regular
basis,
as
the
mayor
suggested,
understanding
that
we
are
a
change
city.
You
know
we
are
today
less
than
half
of
the
population
that
we
were
at
our
peak
and
yet
we
continue
to
have
pretty
much
the
same
number
of
jobs,
if
not
more
jobs
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
than
we
did
at
the
height
of
our
manufacturing
strength.
M
And
so,
while
we
continue
to
be
a
center
for
employment,
we
are
no
longer
a
center
for
for
residents
and,
and
that
creates
a
bit
an
overburden
on
the
people
who
live
here
and
so
he's
right
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
and
look
at
a
new
model.
M
What
I
caution
about
is
this:
just
in
knowing
the
way
that
harrisburg
works
and
and
the
discussions
that
go
on
in
harrisburg,
that
any
discussion
about
redefining
the
wage
tax
or
or
any
of
our
taxes,
the
the
likely
successful
path
there
will
be
one
that
is
revenue
neutral
and
so
that,
if
we
are
to
change
the
wage
tax,
the
likelihood
is
that
that
would
require
potentially
a
cut
to
the
wage
tax,
as
the
mayor
suggested
today
or
or
or
a
exemptions
at
the
lower
end.
B
M
M
M
M
The
other
thing
I
just
touched
briefly
on
is
the
discussion
that
we've
had
with
respect
to
police
and
policing,
and
the
idea
of
systemic
racism
and
and-
and
my
concern
here
is
one
that's
really
beyond
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
because
I
look
at
this
problem
from
the
position
of
greater
pittsburgh
and
our
and
our
entire
region,
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that,
based
on
our
fractionalized
system
of
local
government
here
in
southwestern
pennsylvania,
we
are
systemically
incapable
of
dealing
with
this
issue
without
significant
change.
M
M
We
lost
a
great
champion
on
this
discussion
recently
with
the
passing
of
dr
david
miller,
who
passed
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
who
was
really
the
person
behind
connect
and
the
center
for
metropolitan
studies
at
pitt?
Who
was
a
real
advocate
for
this
provision
of
services
across
across
municipal
boundaries,
and
it's
really
the
kind
of
discussion
we
need
to
have
right
now,
particularly
in
terms
of
police
and
public
safety,
because
these
small
communities
there's
there's
no
way
they're
gonna
be
able
to
do
the
kind
of
things
that
pittsburgh
is
able
to
do.
M
And
I'm
not
saying
this
is
criticism.
What
pittsburgh's
doing
I'm
actually
thinking
pittsburgh's
doing
some
very
good
things,
but
but
but
this
problem
goes
beyond
our
borders
and
we've
got
to
be
willing
to
have
a
very
significant
conversation
about
what
policing
means
in
all
of
greater
pittsburgh
and
and
we
have
some
communities
out
there-
that
just
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
handle
new
mandates,
given
the
fact
that
they're
not
able
to
handle
the
mandates
that
they
have
right
now,
and
so
so.
M
We've
got
to
have
a
very
serious
conversation
about
that.
But
with
that
I
I
do
want
to
tell
you
that
our
we
are
looking
forward
to.
You
know
continuing
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
the
controller's
office,
continuing
to
generate
savings
budgetarily
for
the
city
and
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
take
any
conversation
that
you
have
again.
I
appreciate
the
chance
to
talk
to
you
today.
K
Probably
digitally
you
know
pajamas,
but
so
to
know
hey
michael.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
always
being
responsive
for
any
time
my
office
reaches
out
to
you
whether
it
be
about
the
conservancy
or
you
can
name
it.
Your
office
has
been
great.
I
hated
to
see
you
lose
doug.
I
thought
he
was
fantastic,
so
you've
not
filled
his
position.
Then
I
guess.
M
K
And
I'm
glad
you
went
on
to
mention
about
how
you
were
below
the
numbers
still
as
councilwoman
gross
pointed
out.
A
lot
of
many
departments
are
because
in
reading
the
review
here,
it's
like
oh
boy,
controller
lamb,
just
decided
to
make
no
cuts,
you
know
so
so
that's
that's
really
good
to
know,
and
obviously
you
know
we'll
see
what
the
federal
government
does
providing
any
cuts
that
may
have
to
come,
but
hey,
and
I
was
really
glad
to
hear
you
mention
about
the
nonprofits.
K
You
know
I've
been
bringing
that
up
and
you-
and
I
have
had
some
conversations
about
that-
and
you
know
when
this
time
when
we're
looking
at
revenues-
and
you
know
that
probably
aren't
going
to
be
coming
in-
you
know
it's
the
obvious
for
me.
I
just
think
well,
where
have
they
been
in
this
and
then
I
see
you
know
upmc
with
a
17
billion
dollar.
You
know
windfall
from
last
year
and
these
businesses
are
not
hurting.
These
businesses
are
flourishing.
K
So
you
know
who
has
that
conversation
when
that
conversation
comes?
Let
me
start
it.
I
don't
care
who
joins
in,
but
that
certainly,
and
if
we
don't
get
federal
relief,
that
there's
no
question
about
it,
they
need
to
put
it
any
thoughts
on
that
other
than
what
you
already
said.
M
The
the
only
thing
I
would
say
about
that
is
you
know
when
we,
when
we,
when
you
look
at
the
original
legislative
proposal
that
changed
our
taxation,
the
last
time,
which
you
know
created
the
created,
the
payroll
preparation,
tax
and
and
the
and
the
local
services
tax
that
whole
tax
package.
The
original
proposal
on
the
payroll
preparation
tax
was
that
it
would
apply
to
all
employers,
not
just
for-profit
employers.
M
You
know
the
the
the
non-profit
organizations
were
pretty
successful
in
lobbying
that
part
of
the
that
part
out
of
the
bill,
and
it
never
should
have
been.
I
mean
I
I
get
that
their
tax
exempt,
but
they
do
pay
payroll
taxes
and
and
the
payroll
prep
tax
is
a
payroll
tax
and
and
that's
a
tax
that
they
should
be
paying,
and
I
think,
there's
a
very
strong
legal
argument
behind
that
and
I
think
had
had
that
been
in
the
original
bill.
M
It
would
have
survived
the
court
challenge,
but
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
need
to
be
talking
about.
I
know
that
senator
fontana
had
actually
introduced
that
kind
of
language.
M
As
for
a
discussion
and
consideration,
it
hasn't
gone
anywhere
yet,
but
that's
what
it's
going
to
take
it's
going
to
take
an
effort,
as
I
was
glad
to
hear
the
mayor
talking
about
not
just
reaching
you
know
reaching
here
in
the
city,
but
beyond
the
city
in
communities
all
across
pennsylvania
to
to
create
a
package
that
that
every
city
could
help
now
not
every
city
is
the
same.
M
Not
every
city
has
the
the
the
amount
of
non-profit
property
or
employment
that
we
have
in
pittsburgh,
but
for
pittsburgh,
that's
got
to
be
part
of
the
answer
and
part
of
the
solution.
K
No,
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
you
and
you'll
hear
say,
for
instance,
upmc.
I
I
know
that
they,
they
did
kind
of
come
to
bat
under
the
ravenstahl
administration,
with
the
pittsburgh
promise.
That's
long
been
since
over,
though
correct,
as
they
no
longer
contribute
anything
toward
that
their
obligation,
and
that's
been
over
for
a
few
years
now,
at
least
right.
M
Saying
they're
the
bad
guys
I
mean
the
fact
is
our
large
non-profits
doing
do
amazing
service
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
whether
it's
our
hospitals
or
our
universities,
I
mean
they
do
and
in
some
cases
they
actually
do
contribute.
They
contribute
on
a
tax
basis,
particularly
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
M
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
they
do
that
help
our
bottom
line,
but
there
still
has
to
be
some
discussion
about
what
the
ongoing
commitment
is
and
how
we
are
able
to
plan
for
that
financially
moving
forward,
and
that's
that's,
unfortunately,
a
discussion
that
just
hasn't
finalized
here
in
pittsburgh
and
that's
again,
that's
an
opportunity
lost.
K
No-
and
I
agree
with
you,
you
know
I'm
a
I
support,
I
love
you
know
upmc,
they
do
some
great
things.
I
voted
for
the
new
optic
center
down,
you
know
in
uptown,
and
you
know
I
know
what
that
brings
to
the
region.
I
know
the
people
come
brings
to
the
region
actually
too
just
to
come
in
and
whether
it's
getting
a
procedure
or
working
here.
So
I
support
them,
but
it
is
frustrating
you
know
when
we,
you
know,
vote
to
for
a
development.
K
That's
you
know
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
and
in
this
time
of
need
in
the
past
michael
has
it
been
just
the
mayor,
saying:
hey
here's
what
we
would
like
in
lieu
of
taxes,
you
know
just
so
we
can
keep
afloat.
We
need
some
income
there.
Has
it
just
been
the
mayor,
saying:
here's,
here's!
What
we
want
is
there
some
sort
of
guide
they
went
by.
M
You
know,
I
think
I've
not
been
part
of
the
negotiations
either
in
this
administration
or
in
the
prior,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
there
was.
There
was
discussion.
You
know.
Looking
at
what
other
cities
were
doing,
I
mean
you
take
a
look
at
what's
going
on
in
boston.
You
know,
given
all
the
hospitals
and
universities
in
boston,
the
the
significant
contributions
they
make,
which
was
far
beyond
what
what
we
have
asked
for
or
received
here
in
pittsburgh.
M
I
know
that
the
early
discussions
in
this
in
this
administration
were
around
the
whole
one
pittsburgh
discussion,
but
it
just
seems
that
that
has
stalled,
and,
and
so
there
has
to
be
some
reconsideration
of
just
a
a
a
straight
out
payment
lieu
of
tax
arrangement
that
will
allow
us
to
better
financially
plan
what
we're
doing
with.
M
Covid,
I
mean
copa
just
makes
this
a
little
more
important
right
now,
but
but
but
we
need
this,
even
even
if
kobe
weren't
hadn't
come
along,
we
would
still
need
to
have
this
discussion
and
finalize
a
deal
and
that
deal
you
know
again,
it's
it's
it's
a
negotiation
just
like
anything
else,
but
it
needs
to
take
place
and
if
it
doesn't
take
place
then
it's,
I
think,
it's
time
to
have
a
real
conversation
in
harrisburg
about
taxation
of
their
payroll.
K
Right
right,
I
agree.
The
dire
situation
just
puts
the
spotlight
on
on
this
for
me
right
now,
because
it's
the
obvious
we're
not
going
to
get
amusement
or
parking
taxes
back
in
the
near
future.
If
we
don't
get
that
relief,
we
need
to
turn
to
somewhere
and
that's
where
we
need
to
turn
to
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
now
when
they
do
give
us
if
we
come
say
to
an
agreement
with
them
and
they
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
give
you
5
million
dollars
a
year
for
the
next
10
years.
K
M
M
You
know
if
we
wanted,
if
upmc
and
and
agh
or
our
highmark,
if
they
wanna,
arrange
a
deal,
that
their
contribution
is
going
to
go
to
fund
ems,
that
that
wouldn't
be
a
problem
I
mean
we'd,
be
you
know
we
could
probably
get
from
them
enough
to
cover
the
ems
shortage
after
reimbursement,
which
is
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
three
or
four
million
dollars
in
an
annual
basis.
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
falls
right
within
their
mission
and
the
kind
of
thing
that
that's
the
way.
K
That
all
makes
sense
to
me,
michael
and
it
sounds
like
the
path
I
think
we
need
to
go
down.
One
last
thing
is
I
hear
about
you
know
the
four
big
upmc.
You
know
cmu
pit
and
you
know
highmark.
Where
does
the
catholic
church
come
in
on
this?
Are
they
close
to
the
big
four
or
are
they?
You
know
not
that
significant?
As
far
as
you
know,
monies
that
we
they
do
not
pay
in
taxes
for
property.
M
Well,
I
mean,
I
think
the
mayor
suggested
today
that
the
the
the
four
one,
the
four
that
you
just
mentioned,
are
responsible
about
80
would
be
80
whether
you
looked
at
it
from
the
property
they
own
or
from
their
employment,
and
I
would
guess
that's
pro,
I
think
that's
probably
accurate.
I
think
it's
it
is
around
there
and
and
that
remaining
20
percent.
M
You
know
we've
got
a
lot
of
small
nonprofits
in
this
town
and
then
we
have
the
catholic
church
as
well,
and
so
you
mean
the
catholic
church
probably
is
a
bigger
number
when
it
comes
to
property
they
own
as
compared
to
employment.
But
you
know
there:
there
really
aren't
any
more
catholic
grade.
Schools
in
the
city
well,
they're
a
couple
but
they're
you
know
they're
they're,
not
certainly
what
it
used
to
be,
and
that
was
really
their
employment
center.
And
so
you
know
we
still.
M
We
still
have
high
school
in
the
city
a
couple.
So
so
you
know
they
their
their
numbers
would
be
down
from
that.
But
if
you
remember,
when
we
created
the
first
big
non-profit
contribution
plan,
they
were
part
of
it
and
they
did
contribute.
K
Okay,
that's
it
for
me,
thank
you,
michael
for
being
here
and
back
to
you,
madam.
I
I
I
I
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
our
well,
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
use
the
right
accounting
words
our
consolidated
debt.
I
was
reading
the
kafir
a
little
bit
over
the
weekend.
I
So
if
you
could
just
it's
not
something
that
we
talk
about,
but
it's
especially
when
we're
talking
about
revenue
shortfalls
and
given
our
moment
now
we're
out
of
act
47,
it's
just
a
kind
of
a
long
running
conversation,
that's
important
to
us,
the
city
residents,
it's
kind
of
how
we
balance.
We
have
our
pension
obligations,
but
then
we
also
have
our
capital
obligations.
The
money
we've
borrowed
from
wall
street
for
a
very
long
time.
I
The
city
government
kept
its
borrowing,
but
didn't
borrow
for
some
15
years
and
we've
been
borrowing
substantially
more,
but
that
isn't
the
only
body
of
government.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
remind
the
public
that
this
this
table
doesn't
vote
on
school
board.
Capital
investments
does
not
directly
vote
on
pwsa
capital
investments.
I
did
vote
on
significant
bond
purchases
or
bond
issuances.
Excuse
me
as
a
pwc
board
member
and
now
councilwoman
strasberger
is
on
that
board
and
there's
a
debt
load
there
that
I
just
want
to
kind
of
keep
it
not.
I
I
want
to
spend
some
time
talking
about
it
in
budget
hearings
because
it
really
combines
it
takes
part
of
our
revenue
on
an
annual
basis,
but
also
out
of
people's
pocket
books,
they're
paying
for
the
school
board,
debt
of
their
school
board,
taxes
and
pwa
debt
out
of
their
their
rates
and
the
city
bond
borrowing
out
of
their
city
taxes
and
it.
But
it's
all
the
same
constituency
there
aren't.
I
You
know
we're
all
bodies
of
government
on
top
of
the
same
residents,
and
so
I
didn't
want
to
let
the
budget
hearings
go
without
at
least
touching
upon
that.
So,
if
you
have
anything
to
say
about
that,
it's
always
something
on
my
mind
right.
We
don't
want
to
overburden
ourselves,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
trying
to
make
up
for
about
50
years
of
deferred
maintenance
on
everything
and
a
collapse
right.
We,
this
is
the
time
when
we
are
rebuilding
the
city,
and
we
have
to
really
figure
out
how
those
finances
work
together.
M
Yeah,
so
you
know
in
this
when
you
think
of
the
city
itself,
you
know
we've
gone
from
a
from
a
position
where
we
had
a
significant
financial
deficit,
so
to
speak,
that
we
have
corrected
in
many
ways,
and
we
did
that
in
large
part
by
some
fiscally
being
fiscally
responsible
in
a
number
of
areas,
spending
and
some
increased
revenues
and
revenue
performance,
but
also,
as
you
said,
by
not
borrowing
for
a
number
of
years,
and
so
while
we
have
righted
the
ship
on
paper
financially,
I
would
say
what
we
have
now
is
an
infrastructure
deficit
right.
M
We
are
also
retiring
debt,
as
we
take
on
new
debt
through
the
the
payments
that
we're
making
the
fact
that
we
we
met
the
debt
cliff
a
few
years
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
are
now
making
much
smaller
payments
in
debt
service
than
we
were
before
has
given
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room
to
to
address
new
capital
projects,
better
fund,
the
pension
system
and
and
some
of
the
other
financial
obligations
that
we
have
so
so
from
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
perspective.
M
We're
not
perfect
and
we're
not
great,
but
we're
in
a
much
stronger
position
than
we
were
before,
but
you're
right
when
you
look
at
the
entirety
of
the
debt
that
our
citizens
have
to
bear,
particularly
our
citizens,
who
are
water
customers
of
the
water
soar
authority,
but
also
those
citizens
who
are
not
water,
customers
of
the
water
and
store
authority.
There's
a
significant
amount
of
debt
over
there.
M
My
argument
about
the
debt
for
the
last
10
years,
or
more
actually,
12
years
now
it
has
been
the
structure
of
the
debt
in
addition
to
the
amount
of
the
debt.
M
As
you
know,
back
in
2007
the
pwsa
entered
into
a
very
complicated
and
winding
up
costly
debt
issuance
a
an
interest
rate
swap
deal
that
I
can
promise
you,
no
one
on
the
board
of
the
pwsa
ever
understood
what
they
were
voting
for.
I
Don't
vote
for
anything
you
don't
understand.
There
have
been
class
action
suits
around
those
kinds
of
non-callable
debts
that
have
been
you
know
are
moving
forward
in
places
like
philadelphia,
and
we
did
talk
about
you
know
entering
into
those
class
action
suits
chose
not
to.
I
actually
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
the
new
financial
team.
We
already
had
their
budget
hearing.
They
have
restructured
a
number
of
those
deals.
Finally,
right
it
took
13
years
to
figure
out
how
to
disentangle
some
of
it.
I
But
a
lot
of
I
mean
I
want
to
say
more
than
half
of
that
2007
debt
has
been
retired
or
restructured
in
a
much
more
healthy
way.
It's
just
straightforward
bank
borrowing
basically
allowed
it
to
be
restructured,
so
that
was
that
is
something
to
keep
our
eye
on,
but
is
largely
what's
out
what
what
I'm
more
concerned
with
is
that
it's
straight
up
easy
to
understand
straight
out
the
same
kind
of
bond
issuance
as
we
do,
but
there's
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
work
to
be
done.
I
So
I'm
you
know
both
for
not
just
us
right,
not
just
at
pwc,
but
counties
across
the
united
states
went
bankrupt
over
those
kind
of
credit
default
swaps.
Cities
went
under
you,
know,
underwater
on
credit
default
swaps,
it's
kind
of
old
news.
We
we
want
to
keep
her
on
it,
but
and
continue
to
clean
them
up,
but
it's
almost
done,
but
what
we
do
still
have.
I
really
like
that.
I
You
named
the
kind
of
infrastructure
deficit
that
there's
just
there's
work
to
be
done
and
it's
not
cheap
work
and
we
need
to
spread
it
out
and
we're
going
to
need
prioritize
and
make
choices,
but
we
also
need
to
keep
our
eye
on
that
total
debt
load
across
all
of
the
governments
right
because
we're
about
to
start
in
on
the
alka-san
projects-
and
that's
just
you
know
the
epa
rejected
their
first
points.
I
It
was
just
plain
too
expensive
for
the
people
of
allegheny
county
to
ever
pay,
for
there
just
was
not
enough
money
in
the
households
evaluating
county
to
pay
for
it.
So
we
have
to
keep
our
eye
on
that
those
projects
and
make
sure
that
we're
rebuilding
the
neighborhoods
that
we're
always
talking
about
rebuilding
and
make
sure
that
our
city
residents
are
guiding
the
infrastructure
projects
they
need
and
not
the
infrastructure
projects
that
somebody
else
wants.
So
that's
there.
M
Well,
the
only
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
as
we
move
forward
and
and
you're
right
that
we
have
righted
a
big
chunk
of
that,
a
debt
that
around
that
swap
deal.
That
does
mean
that
the
the
water
and
store
authority
has
become.
M
Stable
and
and
the
problem
there
is
that
now,
we've
become
a
target
for
the
sharks
right
there
are,
there
are
real
sharks
in
those
waters
and
and
the
privatization
crowd
are
won't,
go
away
and
they
will
come
to
us
with
deals
that
sound
way
too
good
for
us
to
pass
up,
and
I
will
continue
to
tell
you
that
that
is
never
a
good
deal
for
your
rate
payers
or
for
our
taxpayers,
and
I
will
continue
to
fight
that
fight,
because
every
time
that
we
enter
into
one
of
those
deals,
we
get
the
short
end
of
the
stick
and
and
and
and
those
those
companies.
M
I
M
Exactly
and
so
so
I
mean
as
we
move
forward,
we
just
have
to
keep
an
eye
on
that.
I
mean
just
remember
this,
where
they,
where
their
ability
to
make
money
is
on
the
water
and
the
sale
of
the
water
and
the
expansion
of
that
of
their
customer
base
through
that
water,
where
they
don't
make
money,
is
on
your
storm
source.
So
there's
nobody
suggesting
that
they're
going
to
buy
your
storm
source
right.
I
And
I
can
say
openly:
I
felt
I
also
found
out
firsthand
that
they
they
also
didn't,
invest
even
in
water.
They
didn't
invest
in
water
quality,
nor
in
the
organization
they
decimated
both
and
to
really
to
the
harm
of
city
residents.
So
we're
talking
about
privatization
of
operations
right,
we
owned
the
asset,
the
entire
time.
It's
not
just
about
the
ownership
of
the
asset
we
at
all
times
did
we
own
the
asset.
We
owned
the
pipes
we
owned
the
water
plant,
but
we
had
given.
M
Out
for
the
future,
yeah
look
at
the
success
that
we've
had
with
respect
to
the
parking
asset.
You
know
we
we
didn't
enter
into
a
if
we
would
enter
it
into
a
long-term
lease.
We
still
would
have
technically
owned
the
asset,
but
we
wouldn't
have
controlled
it.
M
We
basically
would
have
lost
all
evidence
of
ownership,
and
so
and
a
private
company
would
now
be
dictating
to
us
how
much
we'd
have
to
pay
them
every
time
we
want
to
have
a
street
fair
or
every
time
we
want
to
build
on
a
on
an
existing
surface
lot.
You
know:
that's
one
of
the
things
we
keep
continuing
to
miss
about
that
whole
deal
was
the
freedom
that
it
gave
us
with
respect
to
neighborhood
development
and
for
and
and
community
purposes,
but
that's
just
the
financial
arrangement.
M
The
fact
that
we
are
now
in
a
position
that
we
actually
have
a
plan
to
get
to
a
much
more
fully
funded
pension
system.
Because
of
that
deal
has
fundamentally
changed
finances
of
pittsburgh,
and-
and
so
it's
been,
it
has
continued
to
be
a
good
deal.
There
aren't
too
many
council
members
left
who
were
part
of
that
discussion,
but
you
know
the
the
ones
who
are
know
how
much
that
meant
to
us
back
in
2010.
I
Is
there
all
the
questions
I
can
think
of
right
now,
madame
president,
since
we
are
coming
up
on
120.
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
K
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
what
the
controller
just
said.
You
know
in
talking
to
whether
it
be
aqua
or
competitors
coming
in
to
try
to
acquire
pwsa
pwsa
is
not
my
district's
water
supplier.
However,
we
do
have
major.
You
know
sore
issues
over
here
and
flooding
issues
and
he's
right,
not
one
of
them.
You
know,
I
would
say
to
them
just
flat
out.
You
know
what
about
you
know
who's.
K
What
about
the
swords
and,
though
we're
not
we're
not
interested
in
that,
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
back
up
what
he
said
there.
You
know
just
in
talking
and
you
know,
negotiating
with
wannabe
buyers
of
pwsa.
None
of
them
were
interested
in
taking
over
the
source
system.
I
will
say.
A
Thank
you,
councilman.
Any
other
members
see
now
we
have
it's
124
and
we
have
another
hearing
starting
at
1
30.,
I'm
just
going
to
just
ask
what's
next,
for
you
controller,
what
do
you
think
you'll
be
auditing
in
this
coming
year?
Yeah.
M
So
you
know
we,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
did
a.
We
did.
A
police
audit
look
just
looking
at
secondary
employment,
but
in
in
2021
we
want
to
do
an
all-in
police
audit.
As
you
know,
it
is
really
a
top
of
conversation.
Police
operations,
manpower.
You
know
many
of
the
issues
that
you
talked
about
earlier
in
this
meeting
today.
M
A
A
So
and
then
I
just
briefly
would
like
to
say
that
I
hope
that
you'll
consider
looking
into
the
stop
the
violence
fund,
housing,
opportunity,
fund,
land
bank
things,
I'm
on
some
of
those
things,
someone,
but
some
of
those
things
that
are
new
and
taking
a
lot
of
money,
so
I'd
like
for
the
coming
year.
If
you
you
know,
keep
it.
M
Open,
that's
a
great
that's
a
great
point,
because
the
land
bank
and
the
housing
opportunity
funds
were
something
that
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
once.
We
had
a
little
bit
of
history
and
I
think
now
would
be
a
good
time.
Yeah
next
year
will
be
a
good
time
for
us
to
do
that.
So
we
definitely
will
do
that.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
helping
all
of
us
when
we
were
asking
for
so
many
audits
with
the
parks
conservancy,
your
office
really
handled
it
so
well,
and
we
just
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
for
all
your
work
there
and
and
all
your
work
all
the
time.
It's
always
nice
hearing
your
voice,
you're,
always
a
voice
of
reason
and
and
so
so
brilliant.
You
have
a
lot
of
institutional
knowledge
and
just
love
hearing
it.
A
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that
with
us
this
morning
and
thank
you
and
then
I'll
just
say,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
the
controller
bill
orbanek
our
budget
director
and
kevin
paulus
all
live
in
district
2..
So
everybody
in
district
2
is
handling
the
money,
so
you
might
want
to
be
nice
to
their
councilwoman.
Just
saying
and
vote
for
us
for
our
budget.
Our
budget
request.
A
That's
my
little
plug
for
district
2..
Again,
I
have
a
motion
to
recess
this
meeting
and
I
do
want
to
thank
before
we
do
the
clerk
and
her
team,
the
city
channel
staff,
our
sergeant-at-arms
and
all
the
budget
folks
and
the
controller's
office
for
everything
they
do
to
get
us
through
this
process
and
to
work
on
this
on
our
budget.
Can
we
have
a
motion
to
recess
question.