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A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
pittsburgh
city
council
post
agenda
for
today,
tuesday
july
27th.
Today's
post
agenda
is
for
the
pittsburgh
city
council's
legislation
calling
for
an
educational
emergency
in
this
city
of
pittsburgh
and
from
the
very
beginning
I
want
to
welcome
my
friend
and
partner
councilman
daniel
avale.
Also
joining
with
us
is
councilwoman
deborah
gross,
and
we
thank
you
for
her
leadership
and
her
participation.
A
Let
me
give
you
a
little
context
before
kovic
there
was
an
existing
racial
achievement
gap
in
pittsburgh
and
we
introduced
legislation
because
of
that
opportunity
or
achievement
got
probably
getting
worse
in
the
kovic
and
that's
why
we
we
called
for
it.
There
is
a
significant
achievement
gap
in
black
students
versus
white
students
in
our
school
system,
and
we
believe
that
our
children
are
not
learning
at
the
level
they
need
to
be,
and
kovic
has
made
that
only
worse.
A
Kovic
has
exasperated
the
existing
problems,
and
remote
learning
has
been
especially
hard
on
black
students.
Disproportionately
black
students
have
a
central
worker
parents
who
may
not
be
who,
who
may
be
unable
to
provide
educational
support
at
home.
Black
people
have
been
disproportionately
affected
by
the
pandemic.
A
Health-Wise
black
students
have
had
a
particularly
difficult
time,
adjusting
to
online
learning,
there's
a
great
number
of
students
who
simply
did
not
log
in,
and
so
we
believe
that
probably-
and
I
I
this
is
not
hobbily-
I
I
I
believe
this
may
be
since
the
40s,
the
worst
condition
in
terms
of
educational
levels
of
african-american
students,
and
so
we
are
having
a
series
of
conversations
to
figure
out.
Is
the
problem
really
that
bad?
A
They
are
lenny
mcgowister,
who
is
the
pa
called
lift
from
pa
coalition
of
public
charter
schools
dennis
henderson
manchester
youth
development
center
dara
allen,
ware,
a
city
high
charter
school,
a
dr
tina
checkin
propel
schools,
sonya
meadows
from
propel
schools,
james
doyle,
from
the
environmental
charter,
schools
and
k
chase
patterson
of
the
urban
academy
charter
school.
Welcome.
Welcome
welcome
to
this
post
agenda,
starting
with
mr
mcallister.
B
But
if
you
look
at
what
charter
schools
generally
speaking,
are
doing
they've
been
in
the
business
of
what
we're
trying
to
address
right
now
in
2021
for
roughly
25
years.
If
we
go
back
to
the
late
1990s,
all
of
us
from
pittsburgh.
Remember
the
gang
wars
with
the
bloods,
the
crips
law,
the
mass
incarceration
the
school
to
prison
pipeline
and
how
many
african-american
communities
were
being
decimated.
B
We
were
losing
generations
and
out
of
that
angst
came
the
charter
school
isla
out
of
harrisburg
in
1997,
that
provided
public
schools,
thus
called
public
charter
schools,
an
opportunity
to
use
innovation
and
other
means
to
tackle
the
things
that
we
saw
in
these
communities
so
that
we
can
get
generations
of
students
back
into
the
fold.
Allow
them
to
be
successful
scholars.
B
They
are
doing
so
with
less
money
than
the
average
district
schools.
In
fact,
across
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania,
it's
25
percent
less
coming
from
the
state,
that's
going
to
a
charter
school
versus
going
to
a
public
school,
in
fact
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
generally
speaking,
we're
talking
over
30
percent,
so
these
charter
schools
have
to
do
more
with
less
through
innovation
and
the
type
of
drive
necessary
to
close
the
gaps.
We're
trying
to
address
here
in
2021
going
into
the
first
post
pandemic
school
year
after
the
last
15
months
of
interruption.
B
Now
there
are
some
key
things
that
I
know
these
schools
will
talk
about,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
folks
understand
that
they're
doing
now.
So,
if
we're
looking
for
solutions,
we've
got
some
innovators
that
are
already
doing
this.
For
example,
on
average
there
are
more
teachers
of
color
that
are
in
charter
schools
than
they
are
in
district
schools.
In
fact,
across
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania,
we
have
school
districts
that
haven't
had
teachers
of
color
in
over
a
decade.
B
We
well
know
that
when
we
have
kids
seeing
people
that
look
like
them
and
can
empathize
with
them
they're
more
inclined
to
open
up
to
be
vulnerable
and
thus
learn
in
a
very
rudimentary
fashion.
That's
something
that
charter
schools
do
very
well
and
can
continue
to
do
to
help
the
city
of
pittsburgh
moving
forward
as
well,
and
I'd
like
to
commend
all
the
schools
on
this
call
for
doing.
I
know
that
chase
and
I
have
talked
about
this
several
times.
B
You
know
black
learning
is
not
black
history
month,
it's
every
day,
all
the
time
and
it's
a
foundation
for
life,
and
so
I
commend
the
schools
that
do
that
and
that's
something
we
can
learn
from,
because
if
kids
have
esteem
in
first
second
third
grade
they're
going
to
be
scholars
throughout
education
and
they're,
going
to
be
leaders
throughout
life
and
just
the
same
all
these
schools
council
folks.
They
also
have
elevated
a
new
standard
of
learning
and
being
in
their
environments,
everything
from
parental
involvement
to
the
uniforms.
B
They
wear
every
day
to
the
type
of
structure
that
they
have
in
their
schools
and
the
expectations
for
themselves
and
for
the
learning
environment.
These
are
things
that
charter
schools
have
been
providing
doing
more
with
less
over
the
past
quarter
of
a
century
here
in
pennsylvania
and
considering
that
they're
trying
to
catch
up
on
district
schools
that
have
been
around
for
well
over
a
hundred
years.
C
Thank
you,
reverend
burgess,
and
I
want
to
thank
city
council
for
inviting
us
here
and
hopefully,
after
today,
we're
all
still
friends.
I
am
here
as
an
educator.
A
practitioner
that's
been
in
the
field
for
20
years
plus
within
the
charter
field
for
20
years.
C
Presently,
as
of
june,
I
became
the
executive
director
of
manchester
youth
development
center
and
I
just
want
to
put
this
into
context,
because
manchester
youth
development
center
was
established
under
the
martial
law.
After
the
death
of
dr
martin
luther
king,
it
was
started
by
the
community
jimmy
joe
robinson
reverend
jimmy
joe
robinson
and
the
colleagues
from
manchester
was
looking
to
establish
a
safe
place
for
youth
about
10
years
into
existence.
C
His
wife
who's,
one
of
few
african-american
principals
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
found
found
a
disturbing
the
reading
levels
and
math
levels
of
the
kids
that
was
attending
the
after
school
and
summer
programs
here.
So
she
left
her
full-time
job
as
an
administrator
in
pittsburgh,
public
school
system
and
started
a
small
private
school
about
10
years.
C
After
that,
the
charter
laws
came
around
in
manchester
academic
charter
school,
in
which
I
was
the
deputy
ceo
prior
to
this
position
was
established
me
and
chase,
go
back
and
forth
on
who
was
the
first
charter
school
in
the
state
of
pennsylvania.
However,
I'm
gonna
stick
to
my
guns
and
say
we
were
he'll
argue
otherwise,
but
we're
gonna
just
ignore
him
moving
forward.
C
However,
we
were
established
based
on
the
need
of
the
emergencies
from
our
very
beginning,
graham,
who
we
call
dr
betty
robinson,
graham
looked
at
us
in
a
state
of
emergency
when
she
left
her
job.
Graham
looked
at
us
as
a
state
emergency
when
she
started
a
school
and
as
lenny
had
alluded
to
as
we
applied
for
our
charter,
it
was
because
we
felt
we
were
in
a
crisis
within
our
communities
today,
as
the
ed
of
manchester
youth
development
center.
C
I'm
excited
to
have
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
work
with
manchester
academic
charter,
school
and
other
schools
to
continue
to
innovate
in
education.
You
know.
One
thing
that
I
find
is
some
things
that
exasperate
this
this
crisis
that
we're
in
a
lot
of
times.
We
look
for
solutions
and
the
solutions
we
seek
are
the
exact
same
things
that
have
us
in
this
crisis.
C
To
begin
with,
when
we're
looking
at
the
standardized
assessments,
we're
looking
at
the
curriculums
that's
being
used,
even
when
we
infuse
the
cultural
esteem
and
and
the
cultural
relevance,
the
measures
that
our
kids
are
held
up
against
are
not
aligned
to
who
we
are.
You
know
I.
C
C
And
the
language
of
our
students
and
and
if
we
were
behind
other
students,
advise
the
person
I
said:
if
you
come
to
our
school
our
students,
then
our
parents
will
talk
circles
around
you.
You
wouldn't
understand
the
thing
that
they
say,
because
we
have
our
own
way
that
we
communicate
and
it's
nothing
wrong
with
the
way
we
communicate.
C
It's
just
not
aligned
to
how
you
operate,
but
it
is
important
that
we
do
have
opportunity
to
introduce
our
students
to
authentic
experiences
that
introduce
them
to
the
opportunities
that
exist
within
this
region
and
allow
them
to
showcase
the
talents
they
have,
and
this
is
where
that
collaboration
is
extremely
important,
something
that
we've
always
pushed
that
manchester
academic
charter
school
and
as
an
educator,
someone
I've
always
driven
is
those
partnerships
with
businesses,
technology
leaders
throughout
the
region
to
create
and
design
lessons
that
are
real
and
applicable
in
which
students
can
develop
portfolios.
C
Parents
are
introduced
to
news
career
opportunities,
so
can
it
happen?
Does
pittsburgh
have
the
means
and
resources
by
all
means
it
does
the
biggest
determinant
into
whether
we
can
navigate
out
of
this
is.
Do
we
have
the
capacity
to
listen
to
one
another?
Do
we
have
the
capacity
to
work
together
drop
some
of
our
personal
interests
and
our
personal
pride
and
do
what's
best
for
the
kids
and
again
that's
the
work
that
I've
been
in
for
the
last
20
plus
years,
and
it
is
you
know,
boots
on
ground.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That
brings
us
to
dr
dara
allen,
ware
from
the
city,
high
charter,
school.
A
F
Of
all
day,
so
please
stop
me
if
that
happens,
while
I'm
talking
so
I'll.
Try
to
make
a
brief
introduction.
Just
thank
you
so
much
councilman
burgess
for
the
and
councilman
lavelle
for
opportunity
to
join
my
colleagues
here
as
a
part
of
a
discussion
on
helping.
F
You
know
our
students
advance
with
you
know
what
is
a
definitely
a
social
justice
issue
of
a
public
education
that
really
does
serve
all
of
our
students
to
be
able
to
reach
their
full
potential,
and
so
I
am
privileged
to
be
here
and
looking
forward
to
learning
from
the
group.
F
I
have
experience,
you
know
as
an
administrator
within
pittsburgh,
public
schools
and
the
honor
to
also
lead
city
charter
high
school,
I'm
a
school
I've,
long
admired
from
the
outside
and
then
working
here
and
having
the
chance
to
continue
learning
as
an
educator
has
been
so
rewarding
and
seeing
our
progress
as
well
as
areas
that
we're
still
learning
and
growing
and
boy
did
kovitz
show
us
all
that,
and
so
I
hope
too,
that
you
know
through
this.
You
know,
as
dennis
said,
you
know
the
capacity
to
listen
and
learn.
F
You
know,
I
think
we
all
students
to
do
well.
We
have
you
know,
students
throughout
you
know
the
the
city
throughout
the
region,
black
and
brown,
children-
that
we
all
need
to
do
well
in
our
schools
and
also
in
pittsburgh,
public
schools,
and
so
we
really
need
to
to
make
sure
that
we
we
do
listen
in
opportunities
where
we
can
learn
from
one
another.
I'm
definitely
what
was
made
evident
to
us
is
that
the
design
or
core
foundation
of
our
school,
which
is
relationships
that
formed
through
various
structures.
F
You
know
looping
our
advisor
program
carried
us
through
in
terms
of
being
able
to
connect
and
touch
students
to
know
where
they
were
and
for
them
to
engage
and
work.
For
us.
You
know,
because
those
relationships
definitely
made
a
difference:
the
opportunity
for
teachers
to
be
able
to
team
to
feel
the
intercom
interdependence
and
the
ability
to
serve
students
holistically
as
a
team
and
then
as
individuals
have
you
know,
various
relationships
and
learning
and
continuing
to
learn
our
students
as
learners.
F
You
know,
through
those
relationships
and
boy
that
we
learn
new
things
about
our
students
in
covid
as
learners,
and
so
it
really
did
push
us
to
grow
professionally
and
perfect.
And
personally
you
know
you
know
this
focus.
You
know
that
we
have
been
developing
and
looking
to
continue
growing,
related
to
the
focus
on
black
learners
and
their
growth
and
their
their
learning.
You
know
and
trying
to
shift
it.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much,
dr
tina.
Checkin
of
propel
schools.
G
All
right,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
and
just
to
have
this
conversation
along
with
my
colleagues
here.
Propel
similarly
has
been
around
for
quite
some
time.
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
started
seven
years
ago
is
a
teacher
residency
program
and
we're
hoping
to
build
a
stronger
pipeline
of
black
education
educators,
not
only
here
at
propel
but
in
the
region.
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
what's
happening.
There
aren't
enough
african-american
educators
going
into
the
field,
and
we
have
to.
We
have
to
change
that.
We
know
that
the
the
achievement
gap
and
the
opportunity
gap
both
exist.
One
of
the
things
to
highlight
that
we're
doing
we
have
a
strong
focus
on
k-2
literacy
right
now.
G
From
my
perspective,
there
should
be
universal
pre-k
in
every
school
because
it
really
starts
at
that
early
age
and
we
have
to
build
a
strong
foundation
for
for
students
if
they're
not
reading
proficiently
by
third
grade
they're,
four
times
more
likely
to
drop
out
of
high
school,
and
we
have
to
change
those
statistics.
So
we
want
to,
you
know,
put
an
emphasis
on
how
important
it
is
when
we
think
about
the
achievement
gap
to
focus
on
early
literacy
in
terms
of
trauma
in
terms
of
covenant
and
everything
that's
been
happening.
G
G
We've
really
focused
in
on
mental
health
and
wellness
for
the
last
three
or
four
years,
we're
partnering
with
monach
for
our
students.
So
as
we
think
about
what's
needed,
as
our
students
return
holistically
from
covid
five
days
a
week,
we
really
do
need
to
increase
those
opportunities
for
mental
health
and
wellness.
G
We
know
with
our
students
if
we
can
help
support
and
meet
those
basic
needs,
then
the
academic
component
they'll
be
able
to
successfully
move
forward
there.
And
then
you
know
one
final
thing
and
then
I'll
move
on
to
someone
else
is
the
after
school
program
I
think
having
after
school
is
critical.
Our
kids
spend
eight
hours
a
day
with
us.
We
have
about
a
thousand
kids
that
participate
in
our
after
school
program.
G
We
have
a
supper
program,
but
it's
important
for
kids
to
be
able
to
engage
after
school
have
a
place
to
go,
get
academic
support
as
well
as
enrichment,
but
those
are
a
few
things
I'll
highlight
from
propel.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
that
takes
us
from
to
the
same
same
school,
different
person,
and
that
would
be
sonja
meadows.
H
Well,
thank
you,
reverend
burgess
and
councilman
lavelle
for
this
wonderful
opportunity.
I'm
excited
about
the
chance
to
talk
to
city
council
members,
deborah
gross
trace
account
smith
bobby
wilson,
about
something
that
is
at
the
core
of
everything
that
we
do,
even
as
elected
officials
as
residents
of
pittsburgh
and
that's
to
build
a
better
future.
H
Dr
checkin
has
laid
the
groundwork
for
what
propel
is
doing.
I'm
really
part
of
her
support
team,
but
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
because
when
we
talk
about
education,
often
charter
schools
are
left
out
of
that
discussion.
So
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
not
only
highlight
what
we're
doing
but
to
move
forward
and
talk
about
solutions.
I
Thanks
so
much
reverend
burgess,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
for
having
us
to
all
of
city
council
for
welcoming
us
and
having
this
really
really
important
conversation,
I'm
james
doyle,
I'm
the
chief
operating
officer
at
environmental
charter
school
and
actually
came
to
two
years
ago
and
prior
to
being
at
ucs,
I
spent
about
seven
years
working
at
pittsburgh,
public
schools
in
a
variety
of
roles.
I
was
in
human
resources.
I
was
in
student
services,
got
to
work
under
the
wonderful
and
amazing
doctor,
daraware
allen
and
then,
after
I
left
pittsburgh
public
schools.
I
I
went
to
run
a
small
non-profit
organization
before
coming
here
and
to
put
in
context
what
we
do
here
at
ucs
and
and
the
how
we
frame
the
importance
of
this
issue.
I
I'd
also
like
to
kind
of
tie
back
to
something
that
dr
czech
and
mr
mcallister
talked
about.
That's
this
idea
of
this
concept
of
choice.
I
So
I
I
grew
up
here
in
pittsburgh
and
I
went
to
pittsburgh
public
schools,
so
I
grew
up
in
lincoln,
levington
went
to
pittsburgh
public
schools
and
as
a
black
student
in
pittsburgh,
public
schools,
they
didn't
actually
have
too
terribly
of
a
wonderful
experience
and
a
lot
of
it
related
to
being
a
black
student
in
pittsburgh,
public
schools
and
and
often
at
times,
feeling
left
out
of
opportunity.
So
it's
it's!
I
It's
frustrating
that
you
know
it
won't
say
exactly
how
much,
but
20-ish
years
later,
like
we're
still
talking
about
these
same
issues,
and
I
think
that
what's
really
really
important
is
this
idea
in
this
concept
of
choice,
so
charter
schools,
like
ecs
and
like
all
of
our
charter
school
friends
on
this
call
today,
we
all
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
provide
that
choice.
I
For
when
that
that
public
school
option
just
might
not
be
for
a
student,
and
I
think
that
that's
a
critical
lever
that
we
all
can
pull
and
we
need
to
pull
harder,
particularly
for
our
black
and
brown
students,
because
oftentimes
or
a
lot
of
times
that
that
option
that
that
kind
of
solid
track
option
within
the
public
school
may
not
be
the
choice,
that's
best
for
them
in
terms
of
their
overall
development.
I
So
at
ucs
one
thing
that
we
the
way
that
we
look
at
this
really
really
important
concept
and
just
for
context
for
the
the
scope
of
ecs.
I
So
we
we
were
chartered
in
2008,
and
then
we
started
as
a
k5
school
system
and
then
currently
today
we're
a
k-10
growing
to
k-12
system
and
right
now
we
have
a
little
over
a
thousand
students
across
kindergarten
through
10th
grade
in
four
locations
in
pittsburgh,
and,
as
we
think
about
this
idea
and
this
concept
of
being
able
to
provide
that
choice
for
students,
one
of
the
things
that's
really
critical
for
our
mission
is
that
we
provide
this
idea
of
engaged
citizenry
and
out
the
door
education
so
obviously
out
the
door.
I
Education,
that's
part
of
our
name,
and
our
mission
does
relate
to
a
love
of
protection
of
and
preservation
of
the
environment.
But
it
also
relates
to
how
can
I,
as
a
person,
how
can?
How
can
we,
as
a
society,
all
work
together
and
engage
effectively
so
that
we're
all
so
that
we're
all
moving
forward
to
ideally
a
better
world?
So
one
thing
that
is
critical
for
ecs
and
it
relates
to
how
we
engage
particularly
and
how
we
support
our
black
and
brown.
I
The
second
thing,
I'll
mention
too,
is
that
at
ecs
we
and-
and
I
I
feel
very
very
strongly
here,
but
we
openly
clearly
and
full-throatedly-
will
call
out
and
name
and
really
really
talk
about
with
all
of
our
staff,
how
we
all
own
this,
I
this
concept
of
supporting
our
black
and
brown
students,
because
for
decades
for
centuries
there
are
systems
and
structures
that
have
disenfranchised
our
black
and
brown
students
and
we
need
to
actively
break
that
down.
I
So
that's
something
that
I
talk
about
daily
at
ucs,
and
I
talk
about
that
in
front
of
everyone
and
anyone
that
I
can.
But
I
also
recognize
that
it's
easy
for
me
as
an
african-american
male
to
say
that
and
and
feel
that,
because
I've
experienced
this,
my
all
35
years
of
my
life,
I've
experienced
that
right,
but
it
might
be
harder
for
some
of
our
by
every
teacher.
That's
a
a
white
female
might
be
difficult,
but
we
don't
shy
away
from
those
difficult
conversations.
I
So
we
are
critically
looking
at
every
aspect
of
what
we're
doing
so
that
we
are
putting
support
systems
and
structures
in
place
that
we're
able
to
and
improve,
enhance
and
accelerate
the
experience
of
our
black
and
ground
students.
I
So
the
second
and
last
piece
that
I
mentioned
too
is
that
coupled
under
that
is
it
really
allows
us
to
not
only
look
critically
at
what
we're
doing,
but
we
look
critically
at
how
we,
how
we
start
and
and
and
where
we're
going
right.
So
I
mentioned
how
ecs
as
a
school
system
is
growing
to
high
school.
You
know
we
were
able
to
update
our
charter
to
add
an
additional
middle
school
and
a
high
school
in
2016,
and
as
part
of
that,
we
really
thought
critically
around.
I
Where
are
we
placing
our
schools
so
that
we're
honoring
and
allowing
choice
for
the
students
who
need
us
most
and
how
are
we
structuring
those
schools
so
that
the
experience
for
black
and
brown
students
that
are
coming
to
us
is
the
best
that
it
can
be?
So
that's
another
piece,
both
organizationally,
we
think
about
what
happens
in
the
classroom,
but
we
also
think
about
what
happens
at
a
much
higher
level
within
the
organization
so
that
we're
working
on
improving
those
conditions.
I
J
J
J
J
The
failures
of
the
public
education
system
have
been
brought
upon
by
frankly
systemic
racism,
underfunding,
special
interests,
politics
and
poor
legislative
policy.
This
body
included
many
charter.
School
opponents
have
intentionally
ignored
historical
facts
that
the
commonwealth's
public
education
system
has
been
in
a
state
of
failure
for
black
folks,
since
it
was
created
black
and
poor
children.
Those
with
the
most
need
have
been
marginalized
in
the
commonwealth's
public
education
system.
For
more
than
150
years,
the
general
assembly
has
a
constitutional
obligation
to
provide
an
education
that
gives
all
students
the
necessary
resources
to
meet
academic
standards.
J
J
J
So
here
we
are,
however,
many
years
later,
having
the
same
conversation
with
a
different
audience
about
the
same
problem,
and
so
the
the
the
question
I
have
here
is
who's
going
to
put
the
money
where
their
mouth
is
who's
going
to
put
the
bucks
where
it
matters
the
most
in
the
pockets
of
those
who
need
it.
The
most
the
data.
J
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
those
opening
concerns.
Now
we're
going
to
have
a
a
dialogue.
I
want
to
open
up
to
members
of
council
to
be
with
us.
In
this
conversation
I
want
to
tell
you
who's
on
our
daniel
lavelle
who's,
the
co-sponsor
of
this
legislation,
teresa
cal
smith,
who
is
president
of
council
councilman,
bobby
wilson,
councilman,
deborah
gross
and
councilwoman
erica
strausberger.
I
think
that's
all
that
I
see
so
I'm
going
to
start
off.
I'm
asking
my
co-sponsor,
mr
devel.
E
So,
thank
you,
reverend
burgess,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
with
us.
I
have
one
question
in
mind,
but
then
chase
began
speaking
and
my
question
differs
now
so
mr
patterson
and
anyone
can
feel
free
to
chime
in.
I
guess
my
question
is:
when
you
speak
about
sort
of
marshaling
resources.
Obviously
we
think
about
funding
dollars
and
cents.
What
I
have
what
I
what
I
will
hear
and
what
I
expect
to
hear
tomorrow,
just
so
everyone
is
realizing.
E
What
I
expect
to
hear
from
them
is
one
of
the
challenges
that
pps
has
is
the
increase
in
allotment
that
goes
to
the
charter
schools,
making
it
thus
harder
for
them
to
service
the
kids
within
pps,
because
so
many
an
increasing
amount
of
resources
are
actually
going
to
the
charter.
Schools.
Do
you
think
that's
a
fear
or
ingest
statement,
and
how
do
you
respond
to
that?
So
I
want
to
start
there.
B
Yes,
absolutely
it's
an
unjust
and
injust
statement.
It's
inaccurate,
because
the
bottom
line
is
the
state
funding
is
supposed
to
go
to
the
student,
not
to
the
school
system
and
councilman.
That's
the
and
I
apologize
for
cutting
you
off
chase,
but
I,
if
you
only
know
how
many
times
running
around
the
state,
I
hear
that
question.
B
You
know
the
truth
of
the
matter.
Is
each
dollar
supposed
to
go
to
every
single
student
and
too
often
than
not
education
throughout
the
country?
Let
alone
pennsylvania
is
more
about
an
industry
for
well-paying
jobs
with
those
that
have
master's
degrees
and
doctorates
than
it
is
for
those
that
need
education.
The
most
again,
for
example,
I
told
you
25
of
every
dollar,
on
average
across
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania,
that
is
allotted
for
public
education
from
the
state,
doesn't
even
get
to
a
public
charter
school
and,
let's
understand
number
one.
B
Every
single
charter
school
in
pennsylvania
is
a
non-profit
public
school
number.
Two,
the
only
guaranteed
option
for
school
choice
for
poor
people
in
america
are
charter.
Schools
you
are,
do
not
have
a
guarantee
to
a
scholarship.
You
do
not
have
a
guarantee
to
get
into
central
catholic,
high
school
or
anything
else.
B
Let's
also
take
in
consideration
the
fact
that,
as
chase
so
eloquently
brought
up
these
schools-
and
particularly
pps,
has
had
a
150
year
head
start
on
charter
schools
and
because
of
the
choice
now
being
available
for
the
last
quarter
of
a
century,
80
increase
in
enrollment
over
the
past
decade
alone,
and
that's
with
an
anti-charter
governor
being
in
office.
Since
2015.,
we
have
still
seen
those
increases
and
the
increases
were
65
percent
before
the
pandemic
even
is
factored
into
consideration.
B
The
money
is
supposed
to
follow
the
child
and
every
single
time
poor
black
kids
get
caught
up
in
rich
folks
and
middle
class.
People
fighting
over
who's,
going
to
get
more
pension
dollars,
who's
going
to
get
a
5
raise
and
who's
going
to
be
able
to
have
more
vacation
times.
Our
kids
suffer
and
we
lose
another
generation
of
black
talent
in
pittsburgh
and
it's
unsufferable
and
it's
unconscionable
for
us
to
continue
that
same
rhetoric.
J
Thank
you
lenny.
You
said
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
and
let
me
just
summarize
his
point
in
it
with
an
easy,
math
problem.
If
the
state
of
pennsylvania
sends
for
chase
patterson
to
go
to
the
to
the
urban
academy
to
public
school
one
dollar
to
the
pittsburgh
public
schools,
they
don't,
they
only
send
the
urban
academy,
75
cents.
J
J
It's
just
preposterous
and
if
that's
the
idea,
if
that,
if
that's
the
argument
from
the
school
district
tomorrow,
they
got
to
step
their
game
up
and
to
have
had
150
year
head
start
and
in
most
cases
not
be
performing
better
than
many
of
the
charters
on
this
call.
They
got
a
real
problem
and
it's
not
keeping
our
25
cent
to
the
dollar.
E
C
You
know
when-
and
I
believe
dr
allen
had
alluded
to
this-
you
know
we
keep
talking
about
this
gap
about
closing
this
gap,
we're
missing
the
the
opportunities
for
growth,
we're
missing
to
have
that
discussion
about
the
growth
of
our
students,
we're
missing
the
opportunity
to
access.
You
know
a
lot
of
times.
We
talk
about
how
to
close
this
gap
and
everybody's
trying
to
dump
more
time
on
academics
or
more
of
the
same
old
thing.
What's
needed,
honestly
is
a
true
partnership,
not
the
same
old,
same
old,
traditional
school.
C
C
When,
when
people
look
and
talk
about
the
achievement
gap,
it's
not
an
achievement
gap
in
regards
to
what
our
kids
can
do,
it's
an
accessibility
gap
to
the
opportunities
that
exist.
So
if
we
really
want
to
work
on
closing
this
quote-unquote
gap,
it's
about
bridging
the
access
to
opportunities
and
truly
provide
our
students
and
our
young
people
and
our
parents
an
authentic
look
at
how
pittsburgh
truly
operates.
Again.
We
try
to
silo
the
education
of
our
students
into
the
schools.
C
As
long
as
we
keep
silent
education-
that's
not
just
in
pittsburgh.
That's
across
the
country
we're
seeing
this
this
this
wedge,
you
know
and
speaking
of
where
chase
hit
on
this
again,
we
our
whole
system,
was
built
around
a
wedge
and
all
that's
been
happening
over
the
years.
Is
this
push
and
pull
back
and
forth?
That
just
makes
this
way?
Does
this
gap
wider?
But
it's
not
an
achievement
gap.
It's
just
a
lack
of
access
to
the
to
the
opportunities
this
region
has.
C
It
will
not
be
found
in
the
textbook
and
until
our
businesses
come
together,
our
our
city
council,
our
educators,
our
boards
of
education
come
together
and
truly
look
at.
How
can
we
provide
authentic
access
to
our
young
people
and
their
families
to
what's
going
on
in
this
region?
It
will
not
close
and
that's
the
truth
of
the
matter,
because
again,
textbooks
are
outdated,
even
if
it
is
a
brand
new
textbook
by
the
time
tomorrow
comes
what
they
learn
does
not
apply
to.
What's
going
on
in
this
ever-changing
economy
that
we
have
in
this
region,.
B
And
council
members,
if
I
may
very
briefly
as
well
you're
going
to
see
two
and
contrasts
and
styles
the
charter
schools
on
this
call
they're
all
innovative.
They
look
at
what
they
do
from
a
curriculum
from
from
how
their
daily
schedule
set
apart
everything
on
an
ongoing
basis,
so
that
they
can
be
innovative
and
very
responsive
to
the
needs
of
the
kids,
particularly
those
that
are
struggling,
pps
and
other
school
districts
are
basically
saying.
We
think
we
have
the
formula.
We
just
need
more
resources
when
the
data
shows
and
chase
brought
this
up.
B
You
can
google
the
data.
We
know
that
this
hasn't
worked
for
the
kids
that
the
charter
community
has
been
serving
for
25
years.
Their
methodology
hasn't
worked
for
50
to
75
years,
if
not
a
lot
longer,
so
just
dumping
money
into
a
system.
That's
not
going
to
work
is
like
putting
gas
into
a
car
with
no
engine.
E
So
dennis
you
mentioned
that
education
should
not
be
siloed
to
the
schools,
and
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
why
reverend
burgess-
and
I
issue
the
declaration-
is
because
we
also
fundamentally
believe
that
right,
you
have
the
school.
You
have
the
children
for
x
amount
of
hours.
We
as
a
city
as
government,
have
a
responsibility
for
those
children
before
they
get
to
your
school
after
they
get
to
your
school
on
the
in
the
evenings
on
the
weekends.
E
E
We
as
a
city
will
only
be
as
strong
as
our
schools
are
so
we're
dependent
on
our
public
schools,
we're,
depending
on
our
charter
schools,
to
be
as
strong
as
possible
so
that
we
do
not
continue
to
lose
residence
which,
for
the
record,
we
have
every
year
for
at
least
the
last
30
years,
and
we
see
the
numbers
are
actually
going
up
every
year
with
children
leaving
pps
and
going
into
our
charter
schools.
So
with
that
in
mind,
you
mentioned
it
not
being
silo
to
the
schools.
E
C
Well,
you
know
it's
it's
sad,
but
it's
just
a
sad
truth.
You
know
our
schools
are
inundated
with
politics
and
the
politics
are
placed
before
our
children.
You
know
so
I
commit
I
commend
you
and
rev
burgess
and
the
city
council
for
extending
to
to
work
across
the
table.
You
know,
and
what
I
hope
to
see
is
that
you
know
the
other
other
areas.
C
School
district
or
pps
in
particular-
accept
the
support
of
again
whether
it's
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
the
businesses
of
pittsburgh,
because
for
us
a
truly
holistically
educate
our
children,
it
will
take
us
kind
of
dropping
our
own
personal
interests.
You
know,
personally,
I
have
been
called
upon
by
a
few
people
from
pittsburgh
public
and
I
am
a
firm
believer
in
public
education.
C
Public
education
comes
in
many
formats.
What
what
turned
me
away
from
joining
pittsburgh
public?
This
was
just
my
personal
call.
It
was
a
bureaucracy.
C
I
love
the
fact
that
I'm
in
a
small
school
that
I
can
be
innovative
and
if
I
want
to
work
with
daniel
lavelle,
I
can
make
a
phone
call
and
say
us
to
the
councilman
lavelle.
Can
you
come
by
and
work
with
our
students
and
I
don't
have
to
go
through
a
bunch
of
red
tape
and
for
us
to
really
truly
educate
our
kids?
It
does
take
everybody
kind
of
brushing
aside
the
interest
of
political
interest.
C
Common
sense
says
that
every
one
of
our
students
graduate
as
citizens
and
we
need
them
as
productive
members
of
our
community.
But
until
we
get
past
the
politic-
and
I
said
this-
opening
we
have
the
capacity
to
do.
We
have
the
resources.
Pittsburgh
has
tremendous
amount
of
resources,
but
it's
about
the
people.
If
they
can
set
aside
their
own
personal
interest,
we
can
easily
get
this
done.
G
If
I,
if
I
may
add
just
to
what
dennis
is
saying
as
well,
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
the
way
that
the
current
funding
structure
is
working
is
that
the
money
is
flowing
through
the
school
district
to
the
charter,
school
and
oftentimes.
That
causes
issues
between
the
traditional
public
school
and
the
charter
school
we're
all
in
this.
G
I
And
can
I
add
to
I
agree
completely
and
just
just
from
like
and
I'll
I'll
speak
for
ecs,
but
I
think
I
also
most
likely
am
speaking
for
all
of
my
colleagues
and
friends
on
the
call
here
too,
like
from
the
perspective
of
what
we're
able
to
do
as
charter
school
leaders.
I
So
what
we're
able
to
do
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
innovations
that
you
might
not
see
in
this
space,
like
our
our
our
collective
arms,
are
wide
open
to
to
having
conversations
having
discussions
about
how
some
of
these
things
can
be
implemented
within
pittsburgh,
public
schools
and
and
and
on
on
the
same
end
when
they're
knocking
it
out
of
the
park
in
certain
areas
like
I'm.
I
My
arms
are
open,
like
I
I'd
love
to
hear
that
I'd
love
to
learn
that,
like
we
are,
we,
I
feel,
are
a
group
of
learners
and
a
group
of
individuals
that
are
really
really
willing
to
be
able
to
take
on
that
the
opportunities
to
be
able
to
learn
and
develop.
So
I
think
that
of
of
any
recommendation
that
I
I
could
say
for
our
pittsburgh.
Public
schools.
I
Friends
is
that
you
know
our
our
phones
are
are
open
like
give
us
a
call,
mr
also
want
to
follow
up
on
something
that
you
mentioned
too
just
in
terms
of
and
mr
henderson
as
well,
in
terms
of
just
that
experience
that
educational
experience
for
the
kid
and
how
we
break
down
those
silos
not
just
within
the
school
setting,
but
within
all
of
the
other
places
and
spaces,
and
how
city
council
potentially
can
be
supportive
of
that.
I
So
I,
mr
henderson,
would
know
this,
but
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
the
after
school
side
and
there
are
some
really
really
good
things
that
have
happened
in
the
coordination
of
after
school
and
summer
programming
across
pittsburgh.
So
one
example:
that's
a
wonderful
opportunity
is
the
the
bridge
to
summer
initiative
that
started
as
summer
16,
so
it
the
goal.
There
was
really
thinking
about.
How
do
we
wrap
around
summer?
I
Because,
from
a
parent
perspective,
it
is
really
hard
to
be
able
to
find
an
summer
opportunity
and
it's
really
hard
to
be
able
to
find
it
apply,
for
it
know
that
it
exists
and
then
to
be
able
to
kind
of
navigate
through
all
of
these
sometimes
challenges
in
terms
of
getting
your
kid
actually
in
that.
I
I
think
that
that
provides
a
great
kind
of
example,
of
just
education
in
general
oftentimes,
because
there's
so
many
things
that
happen
and
we've
talked
a
lot
about
choice,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
exist
and
happen
out
there
and
more
often
than
not.
We
see
those
with
resources,
those
that
have
the
time
and
the
energy
and
the
expertise
to
be
able
to
navigate
those
different
difficult
systems.
Those
are
the
ones
that
actually
take
advantage
of
those
opportunities.
I
So
one
recommendation,
as
we
think
about
just
school
after
school
and
other
things
is
looking
at
bridge
to
summer,
but
then
also
thinking
about
things
that
exist
like
our
my
good
friend
at
eight
plus
schools,
james
fogerty,
in
terms
of
even
applying
and
exercising
your
choice
for
schools,
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
a
conversation
around
pittsburgh.
I
Public
schools,
like
I
do
with
some
of
my
my
charter
friends
here,
like
we've,
we've
sent,
I
sent
families
to
chase
they'll,
send
families
to
other
schools
if
it
doesn't
work
for
us,
because
you
know,
if,
if
we're
all
doing
well,
then
everybody
does
well
right.
I
Rising
tide
raises
all
ships,
so
I
think
that
that's
another
really
really
critical
piece
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
potentially
could
play
is
who
can
who
can
kind
of
coordinate
on
behalf
of
everyone
just
to
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
our
families
to
be
able
to
have
that
access?
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
chase
I'll,
make
a
very
quick
point
on
the
the
coordinating
comment
that
james
mentioned
is
the
the
convening
power
of
city
council
means
something,
and
you
know
having
us
here.
F
Pps
tomorrow
is
often
we
are
working
in
direct
opposition
together
against
each
other,
and
I
think
of
like
your
colleagues
that
are
also
in
the
area
from
the
state
legislature
who
are
in
that
position
in
terms
of
like
the
ability
to
approach
this
issue,
you
know
with
open
minds
as
opposed
to
it
becomes
partisan.
You
know
before
public
education,
you
know
has
been
you
know,
a
bipartisan
issue.
F
You
know
of
wanting
the
best
options
for
families
to
be
able
to
use
and
options
for
families
are
family-focused
student-focused,
particularly
for
black
and
brown
children.
So
when
we
try
to
talk
about,
they
don't
deserve
these
options.
F
I
know
what's
better
than
you
like,
I
think
it's
it's
worth,
and
it
compels
us
to
have
more
time
together
to
where
city
council
can,
I
think,
play
a
convening
role
of
at
least
even
getting
people
to
the
table
as
opposed
to
like
hey.
I
don't
want
to
be
seen
on
the
side
of
talking
to
charter
schools
when
there's
so
much.
They
can't
be
gained.
F
You
know,
from
hearing
from
both
sides
and
really
seeing
how
it
does
by
hearing
our
stories
hearing
the
stories
of
our
families
that
it
affects
individual
families
and
then
more
collectively
they
got
to
be
able
to
hear
it.
First
and
I
know
we
have
individual
relationships,
but
when
they,
when
folks
get
into
a
group
or
a
room
and
then
no
one
is
willing
to
vote
or
stand
up,
you
know
for
what
is
public
choice
for
a
black
and
brown
families,
not
saying?
F
Oh,
you
have
to
be
pro
charter,
but
don't
I
deserve
that
for
my
family
to
choose
what
is
the
best
choice
for
them?
I
mean,
as
opposed
to
completely
eliminating
it
off
the
table
and
I
feel
like
we
have
to
have
more
opportunities
for
us
to
even
be
able
to
to
hear
and
it's
okay
to
to
have
this
be
a
bipartisan
issue
again,
you
know
it
shouldn't
be.
Democrats
are
against
public
choice,
you
know
and,
and
only
republicans
are,
for
you
know,
charters,
and
there
are
other
things.
F
You
know
that
cross
both
ways
we
just
have
to
to
get
to
a
better
place,
and
I
feel
like
city
council's
convening
power
and
leadership
role
could
play.
It
could
play
a
role
there.
E
Thank
you,
I
believe
that's
what
we're
attempting
to
do
with
these
series
of
conversations
that
we've
been
hosting
and
just
for
the
record.
E
I
am
both
a
supporter
of
public
schools
and
charter
schools,
because
for
the
record,
I
am
a
parent
of
two
children
within
pps,
but
before
being
comfortable
with
sending
them
to
the
school
I
ultimately
chose.
I
did
apply
to
charter
schools
because
I
was
not
comfortable
sending
them
to
their
neighborhood
school.
So
I
understand
the
need
for
choice.
E
I
do
have
one
question:
is
there
any
table
whereby
the
charter
schools
sit
with
pps
to
talk
about
what
is
working
within
your
schools,
best
practices
that
you're
finding
works,
innovative
things
that
you're
doing
that
pps
could
potentially
implement
to
support
their
children
like
as
an
example
because
I'm
looking
at
dr
allen,
I
know
I
know
I
know
you
used
to
anyway.
E
Have
all
your
students
do
internships,
because
I've
had
a
number
of
city,
high
charter
schools
who
are
interested
in
politics
intern
in
my
office,
and
they
discover
that's
not
what
they
like,
but
that
would-
and
so
I
firmly
believe
that's
something
pps
should
be
requiring
for
their
students
as
well.
But
is
there
a
table
where
you
all
are
able
to
have
conversations
with
pps
about
best
practices
to
move
our
children
forward?.
C
Seeing
chase
disappear
and
I
really
want
chase
to
hit
on
this
chase-
come
bring
your
face
back
here.
I'll
say
about
a
few
years
back,
maybe
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
jason
and
I
and
another
colleague
sat
down,
and
we
we
had
a
discussion
about
exactly
that
and
hence
we
began
what
we
call
the
state
of
black
learning
and
we've
been
hosting
conferences
and
workshops
and
keeping
the
the
the
door
open
to
invite
out-of-school
space,
public
school
space.
C
Universities-
and
you
know
it's
been
it's
been-
it's
been
very
well
attended.
We
do
desire
to
see
more
pittsburgh
public
and
doors
open.
We
do
get
a
number
of
teachers
and
chase
could
give
you
a
little
bit
more
specifics
as
far
as
the
numbers
of
where
we
are,
but
yes,
that
we,
we
established
the
state
of
black
learning
conference,
specifically
for
that
region,
reason
to
bring
together
all
the
stakeholders
and
those
invested
in
our
youth,
our
black
youth.
When
does.
C
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
I
want
to
say
august
12th
and
13th
this
year,
it'll
be
going
going
on
chase,
stop
saying
quite
he's,
he's
the
promoter
more
than
I,
but
I'm
just
a
workhorse,
but
12th
and
13th.
E
If
you
would
be
willing
to
send
counsel
information,
those
of
us
that
are
able
to
participate
may
be
willing
to,
because
again
we
do
want
to
figure
out
how
we
can
support
education
within
our
city,
but
go
ahead.
Mr
patterson.
J
B
And
councilman
what
you
got
to
understand-
and
this
is
something
that's
going
to
be
for
all
of
your
colleagues
on
city
council.
To
really
address-
is
you
have
what
permeates
throughout
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
which
is
both?
We
want
to
be
a
world-class
city,
but
we
want
to
be
the
pittsburgh.
We
always
remembered
without
remembering
that
the
pittsburgh
you
always
remembered
always
shut
out
black
people
always
drove
out
black
towns.
B
I
mean
growing
up
in
my
generation,
you
know
what
do
you
call
black
pittsburgh
and
when
they
become
an
adult
somebody
that
lives
in
atlanta
because
they
never
stayed
in
pittsburgh,
you
know.
So
what
you're
finding
is
this
this
pushback
between?
Well,
why
do
we
want
to
change?
I
like
the
city
the
way
it
is,
but
there's
certain
things
that
have
to
change
in
the
city,
and
that
includes
an
education
one
of
the
beautiful
things
about
the
state
of
black
learning.
B
Let's
dare
say
it,
the
redlining
that
drew
the
school
districts
and
all
the
boundaries
in
this
region
for
quite
some
time?
There
are
people
that
don't
want
this
to
change,
and
if
city
council
is
going
to
drag
pittsburgh
through
the
21st
century
and
make
it
what
it
should
be
for
everybody,
you're
gonna
have
to
you're.
Gonna
have
to
break
some
eggs
to
make
another
omelet,
because
there
are
people
that
simply
are
not
trying
to
change
the
system
and
make
it
look
a
little
different
than
what
they're
always
used
to
in
the
city.
E
Thank
you
I'll
digress
for
the
moment
and
let
my
other
colleagues
chime
in.
E
F
Chiming
in
councilman
level,
I
did
want
to
come
back
point
about
internships,
and
I
think
that
also
connects
with
what
dennis
was
saying
around
this.
A
community-wide
approach.
F
Businesses
play
a
huge
role
in
the
education.
Our
students
receive
the
internships
that
they
get.
I
mean
that
is
a
graduation
requirement,
so
we
are,
depending
on
those
businesses
and
organizations
to
provide
exposure
nurturing
experiences
where
students
are
are
having
learning
outside
of
a
traditional
academic
environment
that
is
going
to
shape
their
future
in
terms
of
their
immediate
next
step
plans
and
then
also
the
connections
that
they
get
through
a
mentor
that
they
wouldn't
typically
have
access
to
getting
back.
F
Also
to
that
accessibility
conversation-
and
there
are
lots
of
organizations
and
businesses
that
I
know
want
to
work
with
schools
and
a
number
that
want
to
work
with
pittsford
public
schools
is
it's
challenging
to
get
connected,
and
so
the
ability
that
to
like
rethink
how
we
work
with
folks.
F
You
know
beyond
the
bureaucracy
and
now
speaking
to
pbs,
like
they
have
to
figure
that
out,
just
as
all
of
us
have
to
figure
that
out
to
really
cultivate
what
the
broader
contributions
of
the
community
can
be,
and
you
know
I'm
speaking
of
on
business.
You
know
in
professional
organizations.
James
was
also
speaking
about.
You
know
our
out
of
school
time.
You
know,
partners,
there's
so
much
that
could
be
captured
and
leveraged
to
provide
a
more
holistic
approach
for
our
students
and
all
of
our
students.
You
know
deserve
that.
B
Council,
if
you
can,
one
of
the
takeaways
you
can
do
for
us,
is
as
you're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
fix
public
education
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
You
gotta
make
sure
that
you
understand
and
you
project
the
message
that
charter
schools
are
public
schools
too.
So,
if
you're
trying
to
fix
public
education
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
you
are
automatically
including
propel.
B
You
are
automatically
including
urban
academy
you're
automatically,
including
environmental
you're
automatically,
including
including
max,
if
you
don't
do
that,
it's
just
going
to
have
this
division,
that's
not
going
to
serve
public
education.
Well,
I
know
charters
are
a
little
different,
but
they
are
public.
Schools
held
accountable,
the
same
way
pps
should
be,
and
we
have
to
look
at
it
as
a
totality
of
public
education,
because
there
within
is
where
the
vast
majority
of
black
students
go
to
school.
E
So
I
really
appreciate
that
I
do
have
a
follow-up
question,
though
so
part
of
what
drew
our
state
of
emergency
was
the
fact
that
we
had
actually
read
the
pennsylvania
human
relations
commission's
report
on
pps
and
we're
just
it
was
it's
abysmal
right,
so
38,
I
believe,
of
black
children
are
reading
at
proficient
level
in
third
grade.
E
Only
31
are
proficient
in
math
right
and
so
and-
and
this
has
been
the
same
way
for
the
last
two
decades,
so
we
said,
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
fully
wrap
our
hands
around
it,
but
the
data
for
the
charter-
schools
isn't
necessarily
in
there
and
where
does
one
go
to
learn
the
data
within
our
charter
schools
and
I'm
partially
asking
this
as
someone
who's,
also
beginning
to
think
about
where
I'm
gonna
send
my
children
for
middle
school
and
so
again,
beginning
to
consider
charter
schools.
So
where
does
a?
E
B
I
do
know
that
the
the
department
of
education,
the
state
each
charter
school,
has
to
do
its
annual
amount
of
audits.
Not
just
financial
audits,
but
also
the
academic
performance
criteria
has
to
be
there
as
well,
so,
whether
it's
at
the
school
district
level
or
more
likely
at
the
state
level
that
information
is
available
again,
the
same
standard
that
you
would
find
councilman
for
a
for
westinghouse
high
school.
You
got
to
find
for
city
high
charter
school
as
well.
F
In
a
plus
schools,
thanks,
lenny
has
really
been
intentional
about
taking
a
comprehensive
approach
of
trying
to.
You
know
glean
a
lot
of
that
information
that
sometimes
it's
hard
for
you
know
your
the
regular
parent.
You
know
trying
to
just
make
a
good
decision.
You
know
for
their
family
and
their
individual
children
so
that
you
can
see
you
know
how
all
the
schools
line
up
on
common
metrics,
while
also
allowing
them
to
all
to
share
some
areas
that
are
unique
to
them.
F
So
again,
not
the
you
know
be
all
end-all,
but
it
is
a
good
start
of
having
a
more
inclusive.
You
know
document
that
looks
at
that
information
side
by
side.
G
And
all
of
the
information
is
on
the
future
ready
portal
as
well.
So
you
can
look
at
the
future
ready
index.
You
can
look
at
third
grade
students
in
one
school
versus
another
school,
so
that's
important
for
families
and
community
members
to
have
access
to
that.
C
C
I
have
one
in
public,
you
know,
so
it's
whatever
is
best
for
my
individual
child,
but
when
I
look
at
these
scores-
and
you
see
these
these-
the
disparities
as
far
as
the
the
numbers
of
students
reading
proficient
and
things
of
that
nature,
I
look
at
that
more
so
as
and
pretty
much
every
educator
in
here
could
attest
to
this.
This
is
more
condition
of
the
economic.
The
social
economics
you'll
find
a
great
correlation
in
where
the
parents
are
socially
in
their
own
education.
C
As
far
as
how
their
students
is,
more
so
of
a
reflection
of
households
than
the
schools
initially
to
start,
the
schools
does
play
a
role
in
helping
to
bring
those
up,
but
you
know
we're
looking
at.
You
know
we're
not
comparing
apples
and
apples
you're,
comparing
students,
we
have
what
about
30
of
our
students
live
in
poverty.
Here
you
know.
So
when
you
start
looking
at
the
number
of
poverty,
you
look
at
the
the
careers
that
even
those
that's
not
in
poverty
that
but
truly
are
not
middle
class.
C
Their
parents
are
working
class
parents
that
really
doesn't
don't
don't
have
access
to
to
the
day-to-day
vocabulary
and
linguistics
that
our
scores
are
are
set
by.
So
again,
I've
always
been
a
champion
of
not
to
say
I
don't
look
at
the
scores,
but
you
know
even
as
we
speak
today,
I
never
consider
myself
the
most
articulate
speaker
and
you
know
again
reverend
burgess.
We
was
talking
about
this
beforehand,
my
family's
from
mississippi.
C
My
grandfather
went
to
second
grade
a
great
mentor,
one
of
the
most
intelligent
men
I
ever
met
in
my
life.
If
you
was
asking
go,
give
a
speech,
everybody
look
around
say
what
did
that
brother
just
say,
but
trust
me,
you
sit
down
and
ask
him
to
figure
out
something.
He
will
work
circles
around
anybody
around
you.
So
again,
what
are
we
giving
our
students
access
to?
Are
we
giving
them
the
tools
to
truly
demonstrate
their
knowledge,
or
are
we
just
assessing
how
fluent
they
read
the
king's
english?
C
That's
that
was
spoken
in
their
house,
so
I
don't
want
to
say,
ignore
the
gaps,
but
those
gaps
are
not
true
and
they're,
not
even
if
we
strive
to
achieve
and
meet
those
gaps
which
has
been
going
on
the
last
30
years.
Ever
since
no
child
left
been
left
behind
legislation,
we've
been
reaching
to
close
these
gaps
and
missing
to
give
student
skills,
and
that's
the
critical
part
that
we
need
to
be
focused
on.
How
do
we
give
our
students
access
to
the
skills
to
be
able
to
transition
and
make
a
livelihood
for
themselves?
D
Hello,
everybody
thank
you
for
being
here,
I
have
to
admit,
I
was
just
flipping
up
all
the
reports
that
you
were
just
mentioning
and
scrolling
through
them,
while
listening
as
well.
So
I
have
up
on
my
screen
that
state
commission
on
human
relations
report
the
a
plus
schools
report,
and
I
think
one
other
and
one
of
the
things
I
I
couldn't
catch
for
myself-
that
I
think
is
important
for
just
the
the
public
to
hear
and
and
for
us
to
kind
of
be
able
to
to
place
and
frame.
D
All
of
your
expert
testimony
here
is
of
how
many
of
our
black
students
are
attending
pps
versus
charter
schools.
Well,
I've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
school
choice,
about
giving
our
black
students
the
time
and
attention
that
they
deserve
and
that
that
happens
in
our
charter
schools
and
also
full
disclosure.
D
My
two
children
elementary
school
child
and
a
rising
high
schooler
attend
one
of
these
charter
schools
that
were
sitting
at
this
table
and
but
it
just,
I
think,
helps
us
to
frame
kind
of
where
we
are
today.
You
know
so
like
how
many,
how
many,
how
many
students
are
in
the
pittsburgh
system
or
in
the
city.
You
know
what
kind
of
school
age
kids
do
we
have.
You
know
I
think,
the
last
time
I
checked
our
updated
census.
Estimates
were
at
20,
some
percent
black
in
the
city.
D
Is
that
still
true
right?
I
think
we're
at
20
we
might
have
fallen
from
23
to
20.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
then
you
know
we,
we
hear
testimony
that
our
black
students
are
over
represented
in
pittsburgh
public.
B
Now,
when
you
start
taking
it
to
the
urban
centers
pittsburgh
erie
harrisburg,
the
lehigh
valley
in
philadelphia,
those
percentages
significantly
increase
where
you
do
have
that
over
representation
in
charter
schools.
But
if
you
look
at,
why
that's
the
case?
They're
also
the
very
families
that
have
been
failed
due
to
the
redlining
that.
D
D
C
I
couldn't
give
you
the
specific
numbers,
but
I
can
say
very
generally
and
I'm
pretty
sure
you
get
the
specific
numbers.
You'll
you'll
see
them
right
in
the
ballpark.
Pittsburgh
is
approximately
80
and
white
and
pittsburgh
public
schools
is
about
maybe
55
white.
You,
you
see
a
huge
white
flight
of
pittsburgh,
public
schools
into
the
private
or
who
knows
where
they
go.
I
never
hear
that
that
that
question.
As
far
as
why
is
pittsburgh,
you
know
80
white,
but
make
up.
You
know
almost
only
half
of
pittsburgh
public
schools.
I.
D
Know
in
my
district,
but
traditionally
there's
been
some
50
percent
enrollment,
at
least
in
diocesan
and
private
schools.
C
C
So
you
know-
and
I
heard
a
couple
people
allude
to
this-
whereas
you
know
it's
always
this
thing-
that
is,
the
black
children
need
to
attend
public
schools
charter
schools
should
not
exist
because
they
need
to
attend
public
schools,
but
yet
no
one
questions.
Why
is
it
okay
for
white
to
send
their
kids
to
private
schools?
Again?
I
was
I'm
fortunate
now.
If
I
want
that
option,
I
can
send
my
child
to
a
private
school,
but
my
first
child,
the
school
district
that
I
was
living
in
there
was
no
way
in
the
world.
C
D
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
emphasize
because
it
may
be
confusing
to
a
listener
like
so
if
we
know
that
our
black
population
is
overrepresented
in
pittsburgh,
public
schools.
So
how
is
it
also
overrepresented
in
charter
schools
right?
But
that's
because
we
also
have
a
significant
enrollment
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Kids
in
private
schools.
C
And
it
comes
down
to
economics,
I
mean
again
you're
talking
about
a
city
where
there's
a
20
000
gap
between
blacks
and
whites,
blacks
can't
afford
to
go
to
private
schools,
so
the
charter
school
is
there
for
that
option.
Families
that
have
the
means
choose
to
go
to
private
schools
and
again
no
one
really
questions
why
they,
you
know
or
even
question
the
fact
that
those
numbers
are
so
out
of
alignment.
When
you
look
at
our
population
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
school
district
of
pittsburgh,.
D
So
I
think
that's
interesting.
Can
we
also
say,
does
anyone
know
offhand
what
is
just
numbers
of
total
enrollment
of
all
races
in
charter
schools
in
the
city?
I
don't
know
that
I
know
about.
I
think
our
public
school
enrollment
is
only
about
half
of
all
school-age
children,
but
as
a
breakout.
E
D
Yes,
we
know
the
black
population
is
overrepresented
there,
but
I
think
what
we're
here.
D
D
D
Okay,
so
it's
a
bigger,
bigger
percentage.
We
call
that
over
over
represented
a
bigger
representation.
So,
but
I
I
think
what
and
I'm
also
yeah
just
curious
to
know
if
there's
you
know,
we
I
see
in
these
reports
like
some
22
000
school-age
kids
are
enrolled
in
pittsburgh,
public
schools,
but
I
don't
see
jumping
out
at
me
kind
of
like
what
is
the
what
are
the
numbers
of
city
kids
enrolled
in
charter
schools.
B
D
Thank
you,
thank
you
so,
and
one
of
the
the
goals
of
these
conversations
and
again
you
all-
are
the
experts
here,
but
we
are
also
kind
of
using
this
as
a
way
to
exchange
ideas
and
goodwill
for
how
we
all
can
play
the
roles
that
we
have
the
responsibility
to
play
to
support
all
of
our
kids
and
their
success.
D
And
so
some
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
in
other
sessions.
Are,
you
know,
as
city
governments?
D
What
can
we
do
more
of,
and
what
can
we
do
better
of
right,
and
so
I've
brought
up
things
like
housing
instability,
we
know,
hurts
our
kids
success
right,
and
so
we
know,
for
example,
in
the
the
current
moment,
we're
at
right
now
or
not
post
code,
if
it's
still
in
covid,
but
with
having
18
months
of
cover
behind
us
that
we
have
a
a
growing
eviction
crisis
looming
and
we
need
to
all
do
better
at
that,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
kids
are
not
put
out
on
the
street.
D
I
know
from
the
eviction
advocates
the
people
on
the
front
lines
trying
to
keep
people
in
their
homes
that
the
vast
majority
of
our
pending
eviction
cases-
and
they
are
looking
at
the
court
document
dockets
and
trying
to
find
the
households
that
are
facing
eviction
are
largely
female-headed
households
with
children
in
the
household
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Those
are
your
students
right.
D
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they
are
housed
and
that
they
aren't
forced
out
of
the
city
entirely
for
sure
that
they're
not
forced
out
onto
the
street,
but
they
are
secure
in
their
housing,
and
I
think
we
all
need
to
see
what
we
can
do
about
that.
We
know
that
our
are
of
the
people
below
the
poverty
line
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
D
The
60
to
70
of
those
households
are
also
female-headed
households
with
children
in
the
home,
from
michelle
jackson
and
the
femisphere
report,
and
we
know
that
they
are
also
food,
insecure
households.
We
can
all
do
better
and
thank
you
for
your
work
and
distributing
foods.
D
I
think
many
many
of
the
schools
here
did
a
really
excellent
job
pivoting
to
distribute,
take
home
meals,
and
I
hope
that
that's
something
that
continues
right
to
be
in
the
kind
of
before
times
we
were
kids
weren't
being
sent
home
with
food
and
households,
their
entire
families,
weren't
being
provided
with
food.
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we've
learned
really
really
helps
people
that
we
should
all
continue
to
do,
and
our
parks
and
rec
department
did
an
excellent
job.
I
always
like
to
to
give
them
acknowledgement
as
well.
B
Councilwoman
yeah,
it
looks
as
though
it's
roughly
10
000
in
allegheny
county
now.
The
tricky
thing
is
because
certain
charter
schools
pull
from
the
city
and
from
neighboring
towns
that
number
could
be
fuzzy,
but
we're
looking
at
roughly
10
000,
probably
somewhere
around
ninety
seven
hundred
two
to
slightly
over
ten
thousand
from
the
numbers
that
came
from
pde.
D
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
they
wouldn't
know
that,
because
it's
their
student
dollars
that
are
being
you
know,
sent
to
charter
school.
I
assume
right
it's
not
in
some
other
allegheny
county
student.
I
guess
that
funding
follows
them
too,
if
it's
coming
from
an
allegheny
county
municipality
or
school
district.
Okay,
so
we
followed
that
by
the
school
funding
of
the
child,
the
funding
per
child,
as
you
mentioned
in
their
home
district,
we've
talked
before
about
how
we
have.
D
Lagged
decades
behind
in
doing
lead,
paint
inspections.
We
know
that
we're
only
just
beginning
to
get
a
really
good
grip
on
lead
poisoning
of
our
kids
from
the
work
at
create
lab
at
cmu
mapping
this-
and
I
should
mention
also
that
their
their
map,
mapping
eviction,
crisis
and
housing
and
security
as
well.
So
it's
really
helpful
to
see
where
we
need
to
invest
our
resources,
time,
energy
and
it
and
again
our
our
jurisdictional
powers
right.
D
We
have
been
pushing
several
of
us
on
council
for
us
to
do
lead,
paint
inspections
as
a
city,
because
we
have
not
been
doing
them
right,
and
so
we
know
that
half
of
our
city
population
are
renters,
and
we
know
that
some
of
that
population
of
renters
are
in.
D
We
also
know
that
we
have
a
child
care
problem
in
the
city
and
that
many
of
our
households
are
stretched
thin,
especially
those
female-headed
households
with
children.
There
may
be
kids
that
are
too
young
for
your
schools
or
the
pps
schools
that
also
need
care
during
the
day
and
so
housing
and
security.
Food
insecurity,
lead
paint
is
a
problem,
blood
poisoning,
child
care
and
that
kind
of
aftercare
thing
that
I
think
some
of
you
were
mentioning
earlier.
D
These
are
and
councilman
bell
also
said:
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
can
work
together
to
find
and
support
and
correct.
You
may
know
of
households
facing
eviction
that
we
don't
know
about
right,
because
we
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
the
courts.
D
You
may
know
of
families
that
are
struggling
with
childcare
that
we
don't
know
about
we're
trying
to
do
our
part
and
how
we
do
economic
and
community
development
to
to
financially
invest
in
child
care
facilities
and
support
and
grow
that
that
kind
of
small
business
network
in
the
city,
especially
the
neighborhood
providers,
because
it
makes
it
so
much
easier
for
households.
D
Those
are
the
kinds
of
cost
burdens,
utility
burdens,
transportation,
burdens.
We
know
these
are
cost
burdens
that
make
it
difficult
for
kids
to
succeed
when
their
households
are
struggling
with
these
challenges
right.
So
I
I
feel
like
together,
we
can
figure
out
where
you
have
resources,
where
you
have
information
and
how
we
create
that
supportive
network
around
and
lifting
up
all
of
our
our
vulnerable
households
and
our
kids.
So
you
know
we,
I
think
all
of
us
are
are
eager
to
continue
that
conversation.
D
I'll
start
talking,
stop
talking
at
you
and
let
you
have
a
chance
to
respond.
Anyone
who's
got
some
thoughts.
Thank
you.
G
Well,
first
of
all,
thank
you.
I
invite
the
council
and
housing
advocates
to
our
propel
north
side.
Wellness
center
we've
been
meeting
with
a
lot
of
families.
Some
families
have
received
eviction,
notices
so
we're
you
know
working
collectively
with
them.
We
partner
with
upmc
and
their
health
plan
we're
trying
to
provide
additional
support
for
our
families
wherever
needed.
D
Thank
you.
So
again,
I
just
kind
of
invite
us
to
continue
this
conversation.
D
I
think
our
as
you
mentioned,
our
goals
are
to
just
be
sure
that
our
kids
are
getting
the
academic
resources
that
they
need,
but
also
all
of
the
other
things
that
just
you
know,
help
make
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
achieve
academically
if
we
can
help
them
with
those
things
as
well,
I'm
certainly
not
an
education
expert,
but
right,
but
in
our
role
and
our
resources
in
our
jurisdiction,
the
city
council.
We
want
to
do
our
part
that
helps
you
do
your
jobs.
K
All
right
thanks
and
thanks,
council,
councilman,
burgess
and
also
councilman
level,
for
you
know
continuing
this
conversation
of
education.
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
just
ask,
and
I'm
asking
this
question
because
I
see
a
lot
of
like
us
versus
them.
Basically,
charter
schools
versus
public
school
conversation
happening,
and
I
was
wondering
from
you
know
your
perspective
from
the
charter
school
perspective.
K
What
you
know
what
you
know
you
see
the
the
public
school
system,
historical
school
system
and
how
they're
handling
education
and-
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
know
like
what
are
the
positives-
that
you
see
that
they're
really
doing
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
kind
of
more
a
lot
more.
You
know
more
like
more
and
more
work
together
on.
You
know
what
is
working
with
education.
C
Pittsburgh,
pittsburgh,
science
and
technology
academy
is
a
phenomenal
school.
Kappa
is
a
phenomenal
school.
When
you
look
at
these
schools,
that's
doing
amazing
jobs
best
way
to
find
it.
They
operate
like
charters,
they
have
a
lot
of
autonomy.
They
can
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
again,
pittsburgh
allowed
all
their
schools
to
pretty
much
operate
like
a
charter
and
give
them
a
little
bit
more
autonomy,
so
the
people
that
work
there
can
actually
do
what's
best
for
the
constituents
that
they
serve.
C
I
think
we
see
a
lot
more
going
on
and
then
provide
the
resources
as
needed
to
those
schools.
So
that's
the
first
thing,
but
you
know
pittsburgh
public
do
have
some
great
things
that
happen.
They
really
do.
I
mean
I
wouldn't
send
my
daughter
there
if
I
did
not
believe
in
the
system
in
that
particular
school
system,
that
that
operates
within
scitec
academy,
and
you
know,
as
I
just
listened
to
councilwoman
gross.
You
know.
C
One
thing
that
you
know
we
should
all
keep
in
mind
is
and
chase
talked
about
this
right
off.
Talk.
Is
these
systems
that
make
this
this
this
environment
that
we
are
in,
that
our
students
are
in
this
crisis
that
our
shoes
are
in?
It
is
very
systemic
and
it's
not
us
versus
them
as
you're
saying
councilman
wilson
again,
I
am
a
public
school
advocate,
I'm
a
part
of
a
product
of
public
schools.
However,
as
mr
doyle
stated,
I
have
been
victimized
by
public
school
education
system
as
well.
C
I'm
sorry
pittsburgh
the
pack
bus
to
school,
to
put
kids
in
a
charter
from
in
charter
schools
from
all
over
the
city
and
tell
them
to
catch
two
or
three
buses
to
get
to
their
school
you're,
taking
a
big
chance
of
losing
kids
on
their
way
to
school.
That's
part
of
the
systemic
problems
again
that
maybe
the
city
and
our
business
can
look
into
to
help
resolve
that.
C
I
mean
it's
about
us
all,
working
together
and
when
we
have
these
areas
and
I'm
not
blaming
pittsburgh
public
school
for
the
scenario
where
we're
all
coming
out
of
a
pandemic,
there's
a
lot
of
resources
stretched
charter.
Schools
is
not
the
reason.
Resources
are
stretched.
If
anything,
I
say
charter
schools
demonstrate
models
how
to
maximize
the
resources
that
you
have.
But
again,
if
you
take
all
of
the
the
the
trials
that
we're
going
through
both
charter
and
and
pps
in
the
city
and
the
business
can
work
together
to
help
come
with
up
with
solutions.
C
C
C
I
do
commend
where
pps
does
a
right,
which
is
given
autonomy
to
schools
such
as
kappa
schools,
such
as
scitec
academy,
where
they
can
do
what
they
need
to
do
within
their
own
environment,
what's
best
for
their
kids.
B
I
hope,
if
I
may
I,
this
has
been
a
love
fest,
but
I'm
gonna
be
the
bad
guy.
I
apologize
councilman
wilson,
this
isn't
us
versus
them,
and
much
of
this
is
set
up
in
harrisburg.
Because
of
funding
I
mean
tina
said
it
best
dr
check
and
said
it
best.
Listen.
You
know.
The
bottom
line
is
as
long
as
the
state
money
comes
through
the
school
district
before
it
gets
to
the
charter
school.
The
school
district
thinks
that
that
state
money
that
belongs
to
the
student
and
the
family
belongs
to
them.
B
You
need
that
student
to
be
able
to
work
in
western
pennsylvania
and
not
leave
western
pennsylvania,
the
school
district
and
even
the
charter
schools,
there's
been
so
much
fighting
over
the
funding.
The
student
gets
left
behind
on
that.
If
there's
a
role
that
you
all
can
play
it's
to
kind
of
take
both
sides
by
the
college
and
say
I
don't
really
care
about
the
funding
argument.
B
But
as
long
as
the
funding
situation
is
as
it
is,
it's
going
to
continue
this
political
life
hate
to
say
it,
but
this
political
fight
over
funding,
because
the
money
goes
from
the
state
through
the
school
district
and
then
to
a
charter,
and
it
just
provides
a
dynamic
we've
been
fighting
over
for
years
now
and
the
kids
get
lost
in
the
process.
So
we
have
to.
We
have
to
fix
that.
We
can't
say
it's.
K
Well,
thank
you.
I
want
to
ask
a
question
about
one
of
the
broad
criticisms
of
of
charter
schools
was
that
there's
like
a
high
turn
turnover
rate
of
teachers,
and
I
just
wanted
to
know
how
you
all
support
teachers,
I'm
aware
of
some
schools
that
have
you
know
the
schools
are
supported
by
teachers
are
supported
by
unions
at
some
of
the
charter
schools,
and
I
just
had
a
question
about
you
know
how
you
all
are
supporting
teachers,
since
that's
one
of
the
more
of
a
national
criticism
of
charter
schools.
F
Councilman
wilson,
if
I
could
jump
in
that,
hasn't
been
our
experience
and
I
know
you're
asking
it
broadly,
but
definitely
what
has
worked
for
us.
You
know
where
I
started
with.
F
Is
you
know
in
navigating
the
pandemic,
our
relationships
have
made
such
a
huge
difference
and
that
comes
through
looping,
and
so
our
students
who
begin
with
their
teachers
in
their
grade
level
principal
in
ninth
grade
those
teachers
feel
a
personal
and
professional
commitment
to
the
students
and
their
colleagues
to
get
them
all
the
way
to
senior
year
to
walk
across
the
stage,
and
it's
something
that
we
don't
just
wish
for.
You
know
we
cultivate
and
we
track.
We
have
an
independent
evaluator
who
monitors
you
know,
metrics,
that
you
know
we
have
deemed.
F
You
know
important
to
our
school
through
our
middle
states.
Accreditation,
and
you
know
we
look
at
the
good,
bad
and
ugly
annually
in
terms
of
like
where
we
measure
up
you
know
in
those
areas,
I
will
say,
there's
not
much
ugly
but
there's
always
constructive
learning.
You
know
that
we
take
away
every
year
and
it's
a
part
of
our
hiring
process.
It's
like:
are
you
willing
to
make
a
commitment
here?
You
know,
and
it's
hard,
you
know
people
are
leaving
the
teaching
profession.
F
Particularly
it's
been
exacerbated
and
coped.
You
know
pennsylvania
ranks
lois
as
it
relates
to
diver.
You
know
amongst
the
bottom,
like
I
think,
five
as
it
relates
to
diversity
among
teachers,
you
know
and
being
able
to
attract
individuals.
You
know
who
can
be
a
part
of
our
community
in
matching.
You
know
the
the
the
racial
demographics
of
our
of
our
students
that
it
should
also
be
representative
in
our
teaching.
You
know,
population
chase,
you
know,
can
give
some
great
feedback
on.
F
K
K
You
know
about
the
charter
school
system
specifically
in
this
context,
because
you
know
this
this
bill
of
you
know
what
what
the
councilmen
have
put
forward
forth
here
is
you
know
the
everyone's
concerned
about
the
education
of
black
children
in
pittsburgh,
and
you
know
within
that
within
that
discussion
you
know
how
much
the
teacher
plays
a
part,
how
much
they
feel
invested
in
that
school,
and
you
know
you
know
being
from
a
family
where
you
know
didn't,
have
a
union
teacher,
but
father
was
in
the
union
and
and
always
fought
for.
K
You
know
the
rights
of
of
you
know
for
for
himself
and
his
other,
his
other
colleagues,
but
also
just
you
know,
in
terms
of
in
the
the
school
you
know
system,
just
that
the
teacher
feels
that
they're
invested,
and
you
know
in
large
part
the
union
plays
a
big
part
of
that,
and
so
I
was
just
trying
to
work
through
some
of
that
and
allow
you
to
respond.
B
Councilman
there's
also
other
considerations.
For
example,
a
charter
school,
even
when
a
charter
is
renewed,
is
only
for
five
years
and,
generally
speaking,
again,
unfortunately,
that
us
versus
them.
You
see
authorizers
of
charter
schools
that
will
put
a
lot
of
charter
schools
through
the
loops
when
it
comes
to
renewing
their
charter
charter.
That
impacts
everything
from
being
able
to
get
bonds
to
other
types
of
stability.
B
That
would
make
a
teacher
look
and
say
you
know
I
really
like
the
school,
but
if
their
charter's
being
renewed
and
it
was
supposed
to
be
renewed
in
2019-
and
here
we
sit
in
2021-
is
this
school
going
to
be
closed
down?
Am
I
going
to
have
a
job?
Am
I
going
to
have
to
take
a
pay
cut?
It's
a
lot
easier
for
them
to
slide
over
to
pendle
school
district
woodland,
hills,
school
district,
pittsburgh,
public
schools
and
have
at
least
work
stability.
B
One
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
improve
upon
is
all
these
charters
here
when
they
go
to
renew
we're
trying
to
make
it
a
more
efficient
process,
so
that
charter
length
can
be
longer
so
that
when
they,
those
ceos
go
to
their
their
teaching
workforces,
they
can
go
to
them
and
say
we
just
renewed
our
charter,
we're
going
to
be
around
for
another
eight
years,
then
those
people
can
plan
their
careers.
The
way
the
contentious
nature
of
the
back
and
forth
between
authorizers
and
these
charters
are
right.
J
If
I
can
add
you
know,
unions
are
not
about
the
customer
they're
they're
about
the
members
and
public
education
is
supposed
to
be
about
the
kids
and
so
often
times
councilman
wilson.
I
believe
that
the
adults
unfortunately
take
priority
over
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
students.
Now,
let
me
say
what
we've
come
to
realize
here
at
the
urban
academy
is
frankly
we're
a
training
ground
for
some
of
the
pittsburgh
public
school
district's,
best
teachers.
J
They
come
to
us.
They
work
for
a
couple
years.
They
get
a
quality
experience
in
terms
of
urban
education
and
then
they
go
and
make
a
bunch
more
money
with
a
bunch
of
great
benefits
at
a
school
district,
and
so
that
you
know
there
is
no
real.
Frankly,
competition
outside
of
culture
and
climate.
J
I
read
recently
an
article
that
said
if
you're
quitting
teaching
it's
not
because
you
don't
like
teaching
it's,
because
you
don't
like
the
school
that
you
work
at,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
do
at
the
urban
academy
is
create
a
culture
and
a
climate
where
the
people
that
work
here
want
to
be
here
where
the
students
are
at
the
center
of
the
work
that
we
do.
Even
if
it
is
at
the
sacrifice
of
the
adults
in
the
building.
We
work
long
hours,
we
work
over
the
summer.
C
Also
counseled
councilman
councilman
wilson
chase
actually
hit
on
another
point.
As
far
as
you
know,
I've
been
in
trouble
education
for
20
years
and
coming
up
as
a
teacher.
The
one
thing
that
I
knew
was
that
I
am
a
charter
teacher,
there's
a
there's,
a
certain
mindset
that
comes
with
being
a
charter
teacher,
I'm
not
looking
for
a
union
to
protect
me.
I'm
here
for
the
kids,
that's
first
and
foremost,
I've
had
educators.
That
was
here
at
manchester
academic
charter
school
with
me
that
wanted
to
start.
C
Union-
and
it
would
be
quite
frank-
they
were
pathetic
teachers.
They
were
looking
for
their
own
personal
comfort
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
about
all
unions,
but
I
know
this
group
that
came
to
me
to
set
up
a
charter,
I'm
sorry
to
set
up
a
union.
I
did
not
want
to
work
with
them
as
colleagues,
because
I
knew
their
hearts
was
not
with
the
kids
at
manchester
academic.
I've
been
here
for
20
years
we
have
about
when
I
it
was
funny.
I
was
sitting
there
looking
at
an
old
yearbook
of
25
staff.
C
20
years
ago
we
had
25
staff
members
out
there.
25
15
of
those
individuals
are
still
here.
When
I
hear
about
this
turnover
rate
again,
every
charter
is
different.
That
is
not
the
issue
here
at
manchester
academic
charter
school.
We
have
a
number
of
educators
that
have
been
here
as
we
have.
We
have
not
only
educators
been
here.
We
have
five
teachers
right
now
that
were
former
students.
So
when
you
talk
about
a
community
and
the
culture,
that's
established,
I
I
welcome
anyone
to
come
in
here.
C
You
can
feel
the
community,
so
it's
not
about
the
politics
or
unions,
about
the
love
about
education
and
about
creating
a
safe
environment
for
our
kids.
That's
the
type
of
environment
that
we
need,
in
which
our
kids
truly
can
thrive
in
and
again
keeping
the
politics
out
of
it
and
the
interest
groups
out
of
it
is
what
let's
allow
that
to
create
that
environment.
K
Okay,
well
thanks
for
responding,
you
know.
I
just
I
understand,
there's
different
opinions
about
union
representation,
but
one
thing
that
they
do
provide
is
is.
C
K
You
know
probably
the
ability
or
the
ability
for
you
know
time
off
for
their
own
children
and
to
to
explore
what
type
of
education
they'd
like
to
see
for
their
child.
So
you
know
like
most
of
the
the
parents-
and
you
know
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
that
you
know
we
talk
about
resources
to
have
the
time
to
explore
what
school
their
their
child
mate.
You
know
what's
what's
best
for
their
child,
you
know
some
of
the
you
know.
K
So
you
know
the
the
better
the
workers
supported
you
know,
especially
for
you
know,
working
parents
working
families-
I
was
just
you
know,
just
bringing
up
the
larger
part
of
the
conversation
of
you
know,
really
why
some
of
the
children
you
know
go
to
your
schools
is
because
the
the
parents
have
had
those
rights
to
you
know
that
ability
from
their
employer
to
take
the
appropriate
time
off
to
explore
these
options.
C
Our
employees
are
afforded
that
ability
again
because
we
have
to
compete
with
pittsburgh
public,
which
is
extremely
hard
to
compete
with,
and
we
value
our
educators.
But
since
you
brought
that
up
one
thing
again,
I
think
city
council
can
really
help
with
this
as
I've
transitioned
over
to
manchester
youth
development
center.
I
have
a
more
keen
eye
on
child
care,
early
child
care.
That
is
where
I
see
horrendous
work
conditions
not
only
for
us
but
throughout
the
city.
C
If
we
really
want
to
look
at
how
to
help
level
the
playing
field,
as
our
kids
enter
into
schools,
you
know
I'm
looking
at
ours
and
I'm
thinking
you
know,
there's
some
horrendous
situations
for
our
staff
and
I'm
doing
those
are
some
of
the
things
I've
immediately
looked
to
address
but
to
find
out
the
average
income
is
ten
dollars
per
hour
for
somebody
that's
working
from
seven
in
the
morning
to
seven
in
the
evening
with
our
pre-k
children.
That's
where
we
need
to
look
at
it
again.
It's
not
so
much!
C
You
know
we
it's
not
so
much
the
the
charter
versus
public
and
you
know,
charters
charters
are
going
to
compete.
You
have
to
compete
with
pittsburgh
public
to
the
best
you
can
or
any
public
school,
because
there's
options
out
there
if
you're
an
educator
where
child
care
workers,
their
options
are
limited,
and
I
see
that
the
inequities
in
which
they
are
paid
the
hours
that
they
have
to
work
the
hours
they
get
breaks.
C
That's
where
issues
line
again
so
provide
a
quality
early
childhood
education
is
essential
for
our
kids
to
get
off
on
a
level
playing
field.
So
that's
where
we
again.
If,
if
we're
going
to
talk
about
that,
as
far
as
where
we
should
be
concerned
about
the
workers,
it's
the
workers
of
early
child
care
across
this
region
that
we
should
be
looking
at.
K
Okay,
well,
thanks
for
all
your
comments,
unless
someone
else
has
something
to
say,
I
was
done.
J
Yeah
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
that
I
understood
your
point
councilman
wilson.
It
sounded
to
me
as
if
you
said
that
parents
who
chose
charters
had
more
time
to
to
investigate
the
schools
that
they
were
sending
themselves
to
is
that
did
I.
B
K
I
think
it's
likely
that
that
are
that.
That
is
some
of
the
cases.
You
know
that
that
you
know
parents
have.
You
know
that
there
are
some
parents
that
have
the
opportunity.
I'm
not
saying
for
all
you
know
just
like
there
is
the
there's
the
magnet
program
for
contour
public.
It
is
one
you
know
it
is
another
step,
it
is
another.
K
J
K
Yeah,
I'm
not
saying
all
I
mean
my
point,
isn't
that
everyone
is
that
is
that
boat,
but
you
know
there
is
similar
to
the
you
know.
Just
like
I
said
the
the
magnet
program
you
know
some
just
families
don't
have
the
the
time
and
resources
to
explore
other
options.
F
If
I
could
jump
in
just
briefly
about
the
the
magna
program,
is
I
used
to
oversee
the
magnet
program
when
I
worked
at
pittsburgh,
public
schools
and
I
used
to
have
heartbreaking
conversations
with
with
families
to
where
they
were.
Actually
they
were
shopping
around
doing
the
best.
You
know
that
they
could
and
there
just
aren't
enough
spaces
for
the
number
of
families
that
want
to
attend
the
magna
programs
that
are
out
there
and
conversations
about
really
creating
a
pathways
and
options
at
every
level.
K-5
k,
middle
school
and
high
school.
F
So
there's
pathways
into
some
of
these
high
school
programs.
The
district
just
needs
to
do
that
work
and
it's
politically
fraught,
but
that
does
start
to
create.
You
know
some
other
options
for
families
that
they
really
will
have
the
ability
to
have
more
choice,
and
that's
in
addition
to
us,
but
conversations
such
as
you
know.
I
talk
to
a
family
and
it
still
sticks
with
me
that
she
applied
for
one
of
our
high
schools,
the
criteria
as
you
go
from
kindergarten
as
you
go
from
middle
elementary
to
middle
school
to
high
school.
F
Her
child
was
in
a
school
previously
and
there
was
a
high
school
level
for
that
for
that
school
they
received
all
a's,
but
they
didn't
qualify
for
another
school
because
they
scored
below
basic
on
the
exam,
and
so
whose
fault
is
that,
if
a
student
is
in
one
of
our
schools,
they're
getting
all
a's
and
they
can't
meet
the
requirements
to
be
able
to
gain
admittance
or
to
be
eligible
to
apply
for
a
magnet
program
like
and
that
family
is
like?
F
Okay,
so
you're
telling
me,
I
have
to
stay
at
the
school
that
I
that
my
child
is
not
even
making
below
basic,
and
so
there
are.
I
can
some
many
other
stories
that
have
been
heartbreaking
for
families
where
it's
like.
Oh,
I
guess
I
just
have
to
go
to
my
home
school,
even
though
I
would
like
another
option,
and
so
they
do
a
lot.
F
Families
do
a
lot
of
work
and
the
accessibility
to
high
public
high
quality
public
options
are
not
as
great
as
the
number
of
people
that
are
seeking
them
and
deserve.
C
Councilman
wilson,
I
just
do
want
to
clarify
the
application
process
for
manchester
academic
charter
school.
You
submit
your
name,
your
contact
information
you're
in
the
lottery,
the
end
to
apply
for
pittsburgh
scitec.
That
was
a
vetting
process.
You
know.
So.
Whenever
I
hear
that
whole
thing
about
you
know,
selection,
I've
went
through
that
selection
process.
For
my
daughter
and
my
heart
hurts
for
my
students
that
I
know
have
the
capabilities.
C
However,
they
may
not
have
that
support
at
home
to
get
into
a
magnet
program
again
for
a
charter
put
a
name
in
you
put
a
contact
information.
You
are
then
in
the
lottery,
so
it
doesn't
take
much
research,
it's
just
a
matter
of
just
seeing
what
your
options
is
and
having
the
you
know,
access
to
the
internet
or
a
piece
of
paper
to
submit
a
name
and
a
number.
A
Thank
you
very
much
on
the
line
was
erica
strasberger
and
president
smith.
They
were
on
for
a
while.
I
do
not
see
them
currently,
I'm
I
I'm
going
to
not
ask
questions
I
want
to.
A
I
will
say
just
one
thing
before
I'll
go
to
close
and
I
was
going
to
ask
each
of
you
to
answer
the
one
question
is:
was
it
what
you
know
that
is
there
an
educational
emergency
in
terms
of
black
students
in
terms
of
students
period,
but
especially
for
black
students
in
the
city,
especially
after
kovic,
but
I
think,
having
heard
your
conversations,
I
think
all
of
you
would
agree
that
we
are
we
are.
We
are
absolutely
in
a
crisis
situation
when
it
comes
to
academic
achievement
of
kids,
and
I
think
that's
true.
A
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
charter
public.
That's
just
the
nature
of
the
educational
level
of
our
kids.
Now
we
can
argue
as
to
why
that
is
or
how
how
we
solve
it
or
what
we're
doing
to
solve
it.
I
think
the
the
actual
numbers
test
numbers
having
not
even
tested
for
the
last
two
years
kind
of
speaks
for
itself.
A
Other
thing
is,
my
interest
is
not
blame.
My
interest
is
not,
and
I
have
you
know,
a
love
for
all
schools,
all
kids.
My
interest
is
not
the
blaming
part,
but
what
can
we
do
to
make
it
better?
How
can
we
wrap
around
after-school
programming
summer
programming,
youth
facilities,
city
facilities,
resource
what
what
can
be
done
at
what
age,
both
the
early
challenges?
I've
heard
some
of
you
say
and
then
those
kids
who
are
not
great
great
proficient.
A
You
know
what
are
the
resources
we
can
give
them
to
to
have
greater
academic
achievement.
That's
really
my
interest,
my
I
am
laser-like
focused
on
only
one
issue
and
my
issue
is
greater
academic
achievement
of
kids.
That's
it.
I
have
no
other
interests
and-
and
I've
spent
my
life
fighting
for
that
in
in
my
secular
profession,
in
terms
as
a
teacher
and
as
someone
who's
run,
a
variety
of
after
school
and
supplemental
education
programs,
and
so
that's
my
interest.
A
So
with
that,
I
want
to
thank
lenny
mcallister,
pa
coalition
of
public
charter
schools
dennis
henderson
manchester
youth
development
center.
Dr
dear
ware
city,
high
charter
school,
dr
tina,
checkin,
propel
school,
sonia
meadows,
propel
schools,
jane
doyle,
environmental
charter,
schools,
kay
chase
patterson
urban
academy
charter
school.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
participation.
You've
been
very
thoughtful
and
helpful
in
helping
us
broaden
this
conversation.
A
E
No
thank
you
all
for
participating.
You
all
gave
a
number
of
examples
of
ways
that
we
could
be
collaborating,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
following
up.
I
do
want
to
try
to
create
a
table
where
both
pps
charter
and
the
city
can
be
sitting
around
the
table,
collectively
figuring
out
how
we
can
better
the
lives
of
our
children.
So
I
look
forward
to
following
up
with
all
of
you.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.