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A
Let
me
bring
this
mike
a
little
closer.
Will
the
clerk,
please
read
the
title
of
the
bill.
B
Bill
1867
ordinance
amending
the
pittsburgh
code,
title
5
traffic
article
7
parking
chapter,
549
residential
parking
permit
program
so
as
to
clarify
the
administrative
process
for
the
program
provide
for
virtual,
permitting
add
the
permit
fees.
The
city's
annual
fee
book
adopt
regulations
for
the
use
of
visitor
permits
and
non-resident
permits
and
create
the
hybrid
rpp
area
program.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
luis
for
the
record.
We
are
joined
today
by
council
members,
krause
rose
and
strasberger,
so
I
think,
just
to
start
this
off
we're
going
to
have
director
dash
give
a
short
presentation.
A
This
is
a
presentation
that
perfect
yeah
and
for
the
record,
we
also
have
director
honorado
from
the
parking
authority
director
dash
and
glendale
emboldened
the
parking
authority
as
well.
C
All
right
and
just
an
overview
of
the
bill,
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
Around
changes
to
chapter
549
of
the
city's
code
around
residential
permanent
parking,
the
program
itself
is
a
program
that
is
that
was
created
in
1981
to
provide
residents
within
a
designated
area.
You
know
a
opportunity
to
park
closer
to
their
homes.
C
We
have
created
a
series
of
areas
throughout
the
city.
There
are
39
residential
permanent
parking
areas
that
all
have
to
meet
specific
criteria
to
be
designated
as
residential
permit
parking
are
typically
residential
areas
that
are
located
near
a
non-residential
impactor.
So
a
commercial
district
hospital,
an
institution
you
know,
universities
are
things
that
are
generally
adjacent
to
the
residential
permit
parking
areas
across
the
city,
those
39
areas.
C
So
presently
the
role
of
the
role
of
the
department
of
city
planning
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
as
well
as
the
pittsburgh
parking
authority.
So
where
the
parking
authority
handles
the
permitting
you
know
for
residential
permanent
parking,
the
enforcement
of
rpp
areas,
city
planning,
manages
the
designation
of
areas
and
the
overall
code
and
legislation
of
the
program.
C
Part
of
the
discussion
was
around
the
transference
of
those
duties
from
the
department
of
city
planning,
and
so,
as
a
part
of
that,
we
did
take
a
deeper
look
at
the
code
to
really
start
to
to
try
to
address
things
that
we
were
hearing
from.
The
public
common
thing
themes
that
we
were
hearing
about
the
program
that
needed
to
be
amended
as
well
as
making
sure
that
we
were
updating
the
program
from
an
administration
standpoint.
As
we
were,
making
that
change.
C
So
back
in
in
march,
in
april,
the
city
released
a
survey
on
the
engage
pgh
platform
to
you
know
be
able
to
understand
from
residents.
You
know
some
of
those
things
that
we
had
heard
using
that
as
a
way
to
confirm
those
or
or
to
to
see
that
residents
felt
differently
for
a
month
and
a
half
we
did
you
know
put
have
that
survey
open.
We
did
receive
approximately
2400
responses
from
residents
as
a
part
of
that
process.
C
After
that
that
survey
concluded.
We
then
worked
to
you
know
to
create-
and
you
know,
introduce
amendments
as
a
part
of
that
we
did
two
public
meetings
earlier
this
month
in
october.
I
believe
on
the
5th
and
6th
of
october
or
the
4th
and
5th
I
can't
recall
you
know
two
days
in
a
row,
one
virtual
one
in
person
to
be
able
to
introduce
the
amendments,
give
a
longer
version
of
this
presentation
and
answer
questions
and
take
questions
from
the
public
and
then
on.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
forgetting
dates.
C
I
believe
it's
november
4th.
We
have
a
city
council,
public
hearing
that
will
take
place,
and
that
is
scheduled
for
for
this
amendment.
So
the
you
know
again
that
you
know
that
that
that
public
engagement
was
a
26
question
survey.
C
Most
of
the
people
who
did
respond
were
existing.
You
know
people
who
live
in
an
existing
permanent
parking
area
and
so
the
five
kind
of
major
themes
of
changes-
and
I
won't
get
into
the
details-
you
know
here-
but
you
know
we're
around
clarifying
the
process
for
the
designation
of
new
districts,
including
creating
new
opportunities
for
new
districts
to
be
graded.
C
Presently,
in
the
code,
the
only
opportunity
is
through
a
resident-driven
petition.
There
are
issues
of
equity
around
that
you
know
as
to
as
to
you
know,
who
can
kind
of
work
to
to
do
that
petition
process.
There
were
other
issues,
and
so
we
did
introduce
additional
ways
for
the
process
to
start
to
either
designate
or
change
the
existing
residential
parking
areas
we
adopted
or
proposed
adopting
new
regulations
for
non-resident
permits.
C
So
there
were
a
number
of
items
that
consistently
came
up
from
residents
as
to
permits
that
they
wanted
to
be
able
to
see
in
their
district
things
like
allowing
contractors
to
get
short-term
permits
to
park
in
a
you
know
to
park.
In
an
rpp
area,
while
you
know,
while
they're
working
on
a
resident
house,
a
resident's
house
caretakers
either
of
children
or
of
infirm,
you
know
you
know
adults
that
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
get
permits
to
park
within
an
area.
C
C
What
this
would
allow
is
it
would
allow
for
certain
residential
permanent
parking
areas
to
actually,
instead
of
having
a
grace
period
where
non-residents
could
park
for
free
in
that
in
that
residential
permanent
parking
area
that
it
would
change
it
so
that
the
parking
authority
could
create,
you
know,
could
create
areas
where
people
have
to
pay
for
parking
during
that
grace
period
again.
C
People
who
live
in
that
residential
permanent
parking
area
and
have
a
permit
would
be
able
to
park
for
free
people
with
these
non-resident
permits
would
be
able
to
park
for
free,
but
people
coming
into
that
district
instead
of
parking
you
know
getting
a
free
grace
period
to
be
able
to
park
in
the
area
would
have
to
pay.
C
You
know
which
was
really
trying
to
address
an
issue
of
especially
around
a
lot
of
our
you
know,
kind
of
you
know
around
stadiums
or
larger
institutions
or
others
where
people
are
searching
for
free
parking
and
and
into
residential
district,
even
if
it
is
for
a
short
period
of
time
in
those
residential
parking
areas
would
only
be
able
to
be
designated
as
such,
if
approved
by
city
council.
C
C
The
present
you
know
the
present
charge
for
a
permit
is
twenty
dollars,
and
you
know
that
is
you
know.
People
can
purchase
as
many
permits
for
residents
as
they
as
they
desire
so
looking
at
a
progressive
fee
structure
so
that
if
the
first
you
know
the
first
permit
is
you
know
just
25
and
the
next
permit
would
be
50
etc.
To
you
know,
to
try
to
try
to
discourage.
C
You
know
some
of
the
places
where
people
are
getting
a
large
number
of
permits
for
a
resident
to
be
able
to
think
about
ways
to
more
equitably
use
the
on-street
parking
that
we
have
across
the
city.
So
those
were
the
major
components
of
change
the
city
does
have
under
under
its
engaged.
Pgh
website
has
a
page
specifically
around
this
amendment.
C
In
that
on
that
page
we
have
not
only
the
proposed
code.
We
have
a
recording
of
the
virtual
public
meeting
that
we
did
so
people
can
go
through
that.
We
have
the
presentation,
the
full
presentation
that
we
gave
on
that
site
as
well
as
well
as
we've,
since
those
meetings
have
generated
a
frequently
asked
questions
document
that
was
based
off
of
the
questions
that
we
heard
at
the
public
meetings.
A
All
right,
thank
you
director
at
this
point
I'll
turn
it
over
to
members
this
I'll
turn
over
the
order
that
they
arrived.
I
guess
councilman
krauss,
you
have
any
questions.
D
Just
for
you,
the
only
thing
I
would
add
to
that
is
the
as
part
of
the
change.
The
existing
permits
areas
would
all
be
renewed
and
automatically
renewed
going
forward
and
they'd
have
to
take
action
to
decertify
them
so
for
anything
to
change.
That
was
the
number
on
priority
that
the
council
would
automatically
renew
all
the
existing
rpp
zones
and
then
they
would
automatically
be
renewed
unless
the
neighborhoods
came
to
whoever
to
decertify
the
process.
E
C
It
is
within
the
legislation.
Yes,
so
all
39
existing
rpp
areas
would,
you
know,
would
automatically
you
know
be
renewed
as
a
part
of
that,
and
then
future
changes
to
those
areas
would
be
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance.
C
And
so
if
someone
were
looking
to
change,
you
know
you
know
either
expand
or
contract
the
boundary
of
an
rpp
area
or
if
they
wanted
to
change
the
hours
or
those
kinds
of
things,
then
it
would
be
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance,
but
that
it
would
essentially
formalize
all
39
rpp
areas
moving
forward
that
exist
into.
But
then
future
changes,
like,
I
said,
would
take
place
in
accordance
with
the
new
code.
D
E
Yeah,
no
you're
good,
so
first,
I'm
just
sort
of
kind
of
interested
about
what
your
thoughts
are
about,
absorbing
the
rpp
program
into
the
parking
authority.
Just
generally
speaking,
what
your
thoughts
might
be
and
then
number
two:
what
kind
of
additional
resources
you
might
need
to
be
able
to
bear
that
the
burden
of
that
responsibility.
D
We've
been
in
discussion
with
city
planning
and
andrew
dash,
but
our
last
discussions.
It
was,
I
guess,
our
understanding
when
you
can,
if
you
want,
is
that
domi
would
be
involved
too.
D
They
would
be
in
the
process
still
in
the
process
of
designation
or
codes
and
policies,
because
my
understanding
at
the
end
planning
commission,
the
final
version
of
any
new
one,
would
have
to
go
to
the
planning
commission
and
then
ultimately
present
it
to
city
council
for
approval.
So
you
know
with
I'm
not
sure
of
clear
of
the
duties
yet
between
the
parking
authority
and
domey
that
would
be
distributed.
D
A
I
can't
see
the
panelists
on
the
yeah,
but
I
mean
it
should
be
mentioned
that
in
these
discussions,
since
dummy
manages
the
curbside
that
they
have
expressed
interest
in
getting
involved
to
release
some
of
the
responsibilities.
E
So,
in
terms
of
resource
additional
responsibilities
that
you'll
be
carrying
you'll
need
additional
enforcement
officers.
I
imagine
different.
What's
the
word,
I'm
looking
for
staffing
to
you
know
bring
the
program
over
set
it
up,
get
it
launched.
G
Right,
but
that's
really
not
a
question
that
we
can
answer
yet
until
we
know
the
responsibility,
if
it's
shifting
to
the
parking
authority
or
if
it's
shifting
to
domey,
we
understand
that
it
would
be
easier
for
us
to
really
identify
what
would
be
necessary
if
it's
a
dummy
transition,
then
our
role
pretty
much
stays
the
same.
A
But
just
to
jump
in
here
to
answer
your
question
until
director
lucas
would
join
us
in
conversations
with
her
and
during
our
meetings
she's
expressed
that
an
additional
staff
person
will
be
needed,
but
you
know
in
domi,
or
you
know
if,
for
some
reason
there
are
responsibilities
that
we're
relying
on
you
know
either
way.
There's
gonna
be
one
staff
and
we're
being
added.
D
I
think
part
of
the
legislation,
andrew
from
this
thing
you
can
correct
is
the
fee
structure
would
be
taken
out
of
the
legislation
and
they
would
be
submitted
through
the
city
budget
processes
fees
as
their
normal.
The
fee
schedule
schedule.
We
did
anticipate
if
it
was
changed
that
the
fees
would
also
be
changed
for
the
2022
budget
year,
but
nothing
has
been
submitted
to
the
city
for
new
fees.
Okay,.
D
We
had
proposed
and
talked
to
with
the
city
as
currently
as
twenty
dollars
a
year
as
andrew
stated
for
the
permit,
and
we
were
looking
to
make
that
forty
dollars
for
per
permit
for
the
year.
For
the
first
two
permits
issue
to
a
household,
the
third
one
would
be
a
hundred
dollars
per
year.
E
E
But
conceptually
speaking,
I
think
that
is
I
really
like
that.
I
really
want
to
consider
how
best
to
do
that.
We
have.
You
know
everybody
has
anecdotal
information
about.
You
know
parking
in
the
neighborhood,
but
there's
a
few
people
that
I'm
personally
aware
of
that
you
know
have
seven
and
eight
nine
cars
on
the
street.
You
know
and
they're
all
identified
with
one
household
and
so
forth
and
so
on.
So
I
do
think
that's
a.
I
think.
That
is
a
really
good
idea.
E
I
like
that,
and
I
especially
like
the
idea
of
creating
specific
categories
for
contractors
caregivers,
and
there
was
a
third
one.
F
C
So
it
was
medical
non-resident,
so
that
was
like
a
medical
caretaker
contractors,
child
care,
permanent.
E
E
That
was
a
difficult
situation,
but
I
do
I
especially
like
the
idea
of
categorizing
and
creating
permits
for
care
giving.
However,
you
might
want
to
define
that
whether
medical
or
child
or
contractor,
I
think
is-
is
a
good
way
to
go,
and
I
think
the
the
the
progressive
fee
structure
could
apply
there
as
well
too.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
we're
going
to
be
more
forgiving
in
terms
of
cost
for
someone
that
is
truly
there
on
a
medical
care
of
an
elderly.
E
You
know
parent
or
you
know,
family,
member
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
or
ongoing
consistent
child
care
where
you
need
your
child's
in
the
home
and
someone
needs
to
either
have
a
space.
In
that
the
contractor.
I
was
a
little
more,
the
creating
fees
I
shouldn't
have
my
banking.
Actually,
the
fees
for
contractor
was
a
little
more
confusing
for
me
in
that
we
had
some
discussion.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
them
being
associated
with
a
building
permit,
that
would
be
sort
of
the
qualifier
to
get
a
permit
as
a
contractor.
C
That's
correct
because
I
think
the
understanding
was
that,
for
you
know,
for
people
who
are
coming
in
doing
small
work
in
a
house
that
wouldn't
necessarily
require
a
permit,
if
you're
having
a
room
painted
or
having
carpet
installed,
or
something
like
that,
that
there
may
be
something
that
you
know
that
use
the
use
of
the
visitor
pass
would
be.
You
know
a
common
usage
there,
but
that
there
was
a
need,
if
you're,
having
more
major
work,
that's
being
done
and
associated
with
with
a
building
permit
that
the
requirements
of
the
visitor
pass.
C
Would
you
know?
Wouldn't
it
wouldn't
work
in
a
case
like
that,
and
that
there
was
a
need
for
for
contractors
that
may
be
doing
longer
jobs?
You
know
on
you
know,
on
a
property
that
a
resident
is,
you
know,
looking
to
see
those
improvements
made
to
their
house,
that
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
allow
a
way
for
them
to
be
able
to.
You
know
to
be
able
to
park
in
the
rpp
area
during
the
time
that
they're
working
on
that
job.
C
Those
permits
likely
those
permits
would
be
granted
by
the
parking
authority
the
same
as
they
would
manage
you,
you
know
resident
getting
their
residential
permit
or
resident
managing
their
visitors
pass
so
yeah.
So
those
permits
those
new
permits,
if
they're
approved
by
city
council
or
however
they're
approved
by
city
council,
would
then
be
administered
by
the
parking
authority.
C
I
think
some
of
the
discussions
of
director,
honorado
and
gwen
at
the
parking
authority
was
around
some
of
the
management
of
changes
to
overall
districts
and
into
kind
of
the
map
of
areas
you
know
would
be
things
that
may
be
those
responsibilities,
whether
those
are
at
the
parking
authority
or
at
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
would
be.
You
know,
that's
that's
kind
of
the
relationship.
I
think
that
that
that
they
were
talking
about.
E
G
What's
consistent
with
the
issuance
of
permits
with
the
parking
authority?
Is
that
generally
anytime,
there's
a
permit
that's
issued
for
a
residential
parking
area
that
comes
through
the
parking
authority?
If
it's
an
area
that
doesn't
have
parking
identified,
so
we're
not
taking
a
metered
space
out
of
the
system
that
would
be
with
the
parking
authority
and
it's
not
a
residential
area,
then
those
other
permits
would
go
through
domi
through
pli
for
the
issuance
of
the
permit.
So
this
would
still
be
consistent
with
that
same
practice
and.
E
Please
jump
in
don't
not
yeah.
No!
No,
please
do.
My
question
is
probably
not
clear
enough,
so
the
administration
of
the
permit
is
one
thing:
the
creation
of
the
structure
of
the
permit
and
how
we're
going
to
actually
do
that.
Are
we
going
to?
Is
that
going
to
be
through
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
develop
to
devise
that
system
by
which
we
would
create
these
permits.
G
G
C
So
maybe
I'll
try
to
answer
that
and
then,
if
others
want
to
want
to
follow
the
code,
is
the
code
is
actually
in
the
change
outlined
in
the
code?
Are
these
different
types
of
permits
and
the
allowance
and
what
these
different
types
of
permits
are
and
what
they
can
do
so
we're
outlining
them
in
the
changes
to
the
code
that
have
that
have
come
to
city,
council
and
city
council,
ultimately
will
be
the
ones
to
determine
you
know
to
say
yes
or
no,
that
the
you
know
in
the
code
we
want
to.
C
We
want
to
outline
these
different
categories
of
permits
once
that
has
been
done
once
council.
You
know
if
council
were
to
approve
that,
then
those
permits
would
be
ones
that
you
know
if
someone
were
to
apply
for
those
permits,
those
would
all
go
through
the
parking
authority.
The
same
as
existing.
You
know,
existing
visitor
passes
and
permits
are
handled
by
the
parking
authority.
E
E
B
H
Practice,
I'm
rusty.
There
will
be
the
same.
It's
happening,
the
permitting
is
happening
in
the
same
place.
It's
just
that
there
will
be
now
new
types
of
permits
issued,
that's
correct
right,
and
so
I
will
be
I
don't.
Maybe
I
should
jump
in
here.
May
I.
H
Have
you
may
recall
glenn,
I
think
you
might
have
been
handling
there,
but
it
might
have
been
actually
before
you
were
handling.
I
had
to
appeal
on
behalf
of
a
constituent
of
mine
for
permits
to
medical
caregivers
in
friendship,
and
I
think
mr
honorada
will
recall-
and
so
I
do
have
some
suggestions
for
changing
that
section.
H
549.08
subsection
b,
one
the
medical
non-resident
permits,
so
my
constituent
had
to
call
us
because
she
couldn't
get
visitors
permits
issued
for
probably
six
license
plate
numbers
because
in
her
house
she
cares
for
a
medically
her
medically
fragile
child
who
needs
24-hour
care,
and
so
in
order
to
survive,
and
so
in
trying
to
get
those
caregivers
they're
coming
from
all
over
allegheny
county.
H
She
was
a
pretty
high
turnover
and
it
was
exacerbating
her
difficulties
in
always
being
able
to
have
a
caregiver
in
her
home
that
they
were
always
getting
parking
tickets
and
they
she
couldn't
get.
The
visitor's
permit
system
was
not
adequate
because
you
can
only
have
it
for
three
days.
H
You
have
to
wait
just
reapply,
and
so
we
had
to
get
a
letter
from
her
doctor,
and
so
we
got
that
letter
from
her
doctor,
but
it
was
still
rejected
because
the
doctor
didn't
have
the
license
plates
of
each
of
the
caregivers,
but
there's
a
constantly
changing
host
of
caregivers
right
and
no
one's
doctor
knows
people's
license
plates
numbers,
and
so
that
was
really
distressing
for
the
family.
It
took
many
weeks
for
us
to
resolve
it.
H
We
did
finally
resolve
it
and
it
really
helped
her
and
her
child
have
more
stable
caregivers
because
they
could
get
permits
for
their
license
plate
numbers,
but
it
was,
I
think,
an
unacceptable
requirement
for
her
doctor
to
know
those
license
plate
numbers
to
be
able
to
provide
a
letter
and
be
the
authority
over
people's
license
plates
numbers
and
then
and
that
the
application
for
those
permits
was
rejected
because
the
the
doctor
didn't
know
you
know
the
independent
caregiver
she's
hiring
from
brentwood's
license
plate
number
and
how
can
that
doctor
attest
to
it?
H
So
I
think
that's
an
undue
burden,
and
so
I'm
you
know
we
can
talk
more
about
how
we
can
prevent.
We
know
there's
fraud.
God
knows
I've
had,
I
know,
there's
fraud
and
there
has
been
a
long-standing
tradition
of
a
black
market
visitors
pass
system
around
our
hospitals
in
the
city,
especially
that
has
been
you
know,
you
know,
probably
reduced
because
of
the
changes
to
the
the
visitors
past
system
from
having
the
old
cards.
H
What
people
would
sell,
basically
in
the
black
market
and
and
decals,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
I
know
that
there
needs
to
be
some
verification
and
some
system
that
you
can
feel
confident
in,
but
it
shouldn't
be
so
burdensome
that
people
can't
you
know
we
need
you
can't
even
you
can't
get
a
doctor
to
call
you
back.
You
can't
get
a
doctor
to
send
you
an
email
and
then
they
think
that
these
doctors
are
somehow
magically
going
to
know
people
and
attest
to
the
driver's
license
numbers
just
going.
E
To
jump
in
for
just
one
second
councilwoman
is
making
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make,
but
not
answering
the
question.
Well,
these
are
going
to
be
matters
of
policy
once
we
create,
I
understand
we'll
create
by
passing,
but
then
how
they're
actually
implemented
and
systems
are
created.
That
will
be
a
matter
of
policy
by
which
these
will
become
effective
and
actually
serving
people
with
the
needs
that
they
have
for
the
caretakers
coming
into
their
to
their
neighborhoods.
E
H
C
What's
being
discussed-
and
you
know
be
happy
to
have
further
discussions
with
you-
and
you
know,
I
think,
from
the
departments
and
authorities
on
our
side
relative,
I
mean
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
end
up
having
to
have
is
we
have
to
have
a
license.
C
Plate
number
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
to
to
you
know,
have
the
plate,
readers
be
able
to
know
who
is
able
to
be
in
a
zone
and
who's
not,
and
so
you
know
I
mean
if
there
are
other
ways
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
that
plate
information
to
ensure
that
the
parking
authority
can
issue
the
permit.
I
think
that's
something
that
we're
you
know
willing
to
have.
You
know
able
to
have
follow-up
conversations.
H
H
Okay-
and
I
also
wanted
to
just
if
I
may
shift
I-
I
also
think
that
the
creation
of
these
categories
is
something
that
we've
been
talking
about
now
for
a
number
of
years,
so
it
is
wonderful
to
see
it
coming
to
fruition.
Now
that
there
should
be,
I
know,
a
special
designation
for
contractors
or
for
child
care
providers
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
It's
been
it's
been.
H
We've
known,
we've
needed
this
for
quite
a
while,
and
it's
going
to
really
alleviate
some
of
the
stress
and
strain
on
the
households
who
have
been
trying
to
juggle
this
stuff
with
visitors
passes
that
weren't,
quite
you
know
designed
for
that.
So
that
part,
I
think,
is
helpful
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that.
I
did
also
want
to
point
out
to
people
that
a
lot
about
the
kind
of
process
by
which
the
maps
are
created.
H
I
think,
also
speaks
to
some
of
your
questions,
councilman
about
what
are
the
new
systems
or
costs
that
are
being
created
with
this
change
to
code.
So
I'm
glad
we
have
delmy
here
at
the
table.
Thank
you
director.
We
are
seeing.
I
don't
think
this
used
to
happen,
that
there
was
really
kind
of
a
parking
study.
H
C
Sure
so
I
mean
a
parking
study
is
required
in
the
current
system
and
would
continue
to
be
required
as
a
part
of
the
designation
of
new
permanent
parking
areas.
C
So
the
things
that
we,
the
things
that
that
parking
study
has
to
determine
is
it
has
to
determine
that
at
least
75
of
the
parking
in
an
area
is
being
utilized
and
at
least
15
of
the
that
parking
is
being
utilized
by
commuters
by
people
who
are
not
residents
of
the
area,
and
so
the
parking
study
that
is
done
presently
and
would
continue
to
be
done,
would
be
done
for
that
purpose.
It
is
not
something
that
we,
those
parking
studies,
are
done
by
existing
by
staff
in
the
existing
system.
C
So
there
is,
you
know
I
mean
there
is
a
staff.
There
is
a
staff
cost
to
that,
because
we
do
have
to
go
out
during
all
of
the
hours
that
would
you
know
that
would
that
a
district
would,
you
know,
would
be
intending
on
existing
so
for
just
as
an
example,
because
it's
a
one
that
we're
doing
right
now.
There
is
a
petition
for
a
block
of
south
18th
street
in
the
south
side
to
become
a
part
of
a
permit
district.
C
We
have
to
go
out
for
every
hour
that
that
permit
district
would
be
in
place
and
be
able
to
document.
You
know
what
you
know
how
what
parking
utilization
is
like
and
who's
parking
who's
parking
on
that
block,
and
so
we
have
to
do
that
include
that
as
a
part
of
the
parking
study
that
then
will
determine
if
that
area
is
eligible
to
be
added
to
a
residential
permanent
party
that,
if
that
helps,
you
kind
of
give
you
an
understanding
of
what.
C
C
Yes,
that's
that's
what
that's!
What
that?
That's,
what
that
one,
but
that
parking
study,
whether
that's
creation
of
an
entirely
new
district
or
whether
it's
a
minor
that
one
block
minor
expansion
like
I'm
talking
about
on
in
the
south
side.
You
know
that
same
those
same
things
are
needed
out
of
the
parking
study
for
res
for
a
residential
perma
parking.
H
And
so
I
I
have
to
ask,
because
I
don't
know
and
that's
what
these
things
are
for,
how
much
do
you
oversell
kerblin?
So
we
know
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
curve
length.
I
know
you
measure
in
an
rpp,
and
I
know
that
we
seem
to
up
till
today
just
kind
of
there's
no
limit
on
permits
that.
H
Yes,
I'm
imagining
rpp
areas
that
have
like
a
less
disparate
ratio
of
curb
length
to
vehicle
lengths
permitted
and
then
I'm
imagining
rpp
areas
that
have
like
a
really
super,
disparate,
maybe
by
factors
and
multiples
of
curb
length
to
number
lengths
of
car
permitted.
C
Yeah
I
mean
we
have.
We
haven't
done
this
off
of
recent
data,
but
the
last
time
we
did
this
I
mean
so
we
have
about
18
000
permits,
roughly
that
you
know
in
in
residential
parking
areas.
We
have
some
areas
where
the
impactor
is
the
problem
right.
You
know,
but
you
know,
but
ultimately
there
are
more
on
street
spaces
than
there
are
permits
or
cars.
So
we
have
given.
C
Have
any,
I
think
the
lowest
of
those
districts
comes
in
at
about
three
permits
per
10
on
street
parking
spaces?
That's
like
at
the
bottom
end.
You
know
where,
for
every
10
on
street
parking
spaces,
we
have
three
permits
in
that
race.
C
C
That
the
impactor
would
be
so
so
great
that
you
know
it
would
be
overtaken
by
non-residential
parking
if,
if
residential
parking
did
not
exist
on
the
other
side,
I
think
area
dd.
You
know
we
actually
have
where
we
have.
You
know
about
four
and
a
half
permits
for
every
on-street
parking
space,
and
so
when
we
were
looking
at
amending
the
code,
I
mean
there
are
some
places
that
get
to
doing
lottery
systems
and
capping
the
number
of
permits
in
an
area.
C
Because
there,
because
there's
also
issues
that
you
know,
although
there
are,
there,
may
be
four
and
a
half
permits
per
on-street
parking
space
in
that
rbp
area.
There
are
also
lots
of
people
that
have
off-street.
There
are
lots
of
off-street
parking.
You
know
that
you
know
that
obviously
has
to
be
included
in
that
as
well
or.
C
Main
the
main
role
of
the
program
is
to
protect
that
residential
area
from
the
commercial
impactors
outside
of
it.
You
know
not,
you
know
it's,
it's
not.
The
program
itself
isn't
meant
to
kind
of
control,
residential
parking
from
other
residences
and
on
the
city
on
the
same
block
in
some
of
those
issues.
E
A
I
just
want
to
mention
for
our
member
strasbourg
online,
we're
kind
of
you
know
jumping
around
here.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
feel
included
as
well.
If
you
want
to
jump
it
in
at
some
point
that
you
know
with
these
questions,
where
we've
kind
of
you
know
created
like
a
conversation
thing
here,.
E
Again,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
to
make
the
statement
or
ask
the
question,
but
the
ratio
of
car
length
to
permit
would
fluctuate
according
to
time
of
day.
Would
it
not
there
I'll
come
out
in
the
morning
and
there's
ample
parking
com
if
I'm
not
home
by
5,
30
or
6
o'clock,
I'm
circling
so
how?
How
then
does
one
factor
that
into
the
equation
of
available
permits
car
lengths
according
to
time
of
day
well.
C
That
really
you
know,
I
mean
really.
It
is
to
try
to
protect
the
the
those
those
residential
streets
as
residential
parking,
but
not
necessarily
dealing
with
the
fact
that
there
may
be
more.
You
know,
especially
in
some
of
our
older
row
house,
neighborhoods
more
units,
and
you
know,
and
potentially
you
know
if
all
of
those
people
have
cars
more
cars
than
we
have
than
we
have
on
street
parking
spaces
and,
like
you
know,
that
would
be
things
that
you
know.
Obviously
other
you
know
would
try
to
handle
in
other
ways.
C
You
know
whether
that's
by
you
know
anything
from
you
know
work
that
the
parking
authority
does
you
know
relative
to
creating
you
know
to
creating
parking
to
trying
to
find
other
means
of
you
know
of
transportation.
In
those
areas
you
know
et
cetera,.
E
And
encouraging
vehicle
reduction,
which
right
entirely,
you
know
another
conversation,
I'm
just
not
convinced.
I
like
the
idea
of
capping,
permits
and
creating
lottery
systems.
That's
just
and
I'm
sort
of
off
the
cuff
and
we're
just
beginning
discussions
around
this,
but
I
I
just
don't
see
where
that
is,
is
going
to
be
beneficial.
C
D
We're
in
agreement
with
you,
too,
on
that
that
once
it's
areas
approved
or
designated
as
an
rpp
area,
we
sell
a
permit
to
every
resident
that
comes
in
and
applies.
D
And
sometimes
because
when
councilwoman
gross
is
correct,
sometimes
they're
oversold
in
certain
areas,
because
they're
entitled
to
them,
but
with
this
program
they're
not
entitled
to
par
they're,
not
guaranteed
to
park
on
their
street,
there's
several
streets
in
that
district.
You
know
they
may
have
to
go
to
a
different
street,
but
a
lot
of
residents
want
on
their
street.
There's.
C
It
is
about
half
the
districts
so
about
20
of
the
39
districts
I
believe,
have
more
permits
sold
than
there
are
parking
on
street
parking
spaces.
But
again
you
know
how
that
gets
regulated
throughout
the
day
and
through
different
times.
That
residents
are.
There
doesn't
mean
that
it's
necessarily
you
know
doesn't
mean
that
necessarily
a
one-to-one
would
would
really
mean
that
you
know
if,
if
it's
over
that
limit
that
you
know,
people
can't
don't
have
the
ability
to
park.
G
F
A
C
H
Yeah
that
kind
of
brings
us
that
brings
us
to
the
idea
of
this
hybrid
model
and
I
can
think
of
some
areas
in
my
district,
where
they're
already
like
we've
we've
been
having
to
do
this
weird
thing
where
we
try
to
draw
the
rpp
around
the
meters
and
it
was
awkward
you
know
so
you
think
of
like
area
h
that
has
kind
of
friendship
avenue
with
meters
right
on
it
right
behind
west
bend
hospital
right.
H
Now
I
used
to
live
there
and
actually
we
we
used
the
accommodation
that
I'm
reading
in
this
ordinance
a
lot,
because
I
know
I
was
just
like
four
houses
down
and
you
could
be
at
a
meter
right.
So
if
I
didn't
have
my
parking
pass
back,
then
I
had
a
physical
parking
pass
and
it
was
like
you
know
it's
like
last
friend.
He
was
over
two
days
ago,
drove
home
with
it
and
hasn't
gotten
it
back
to
me,
but
you
could
just
drive
around
the
corner
and
park
at
a
parking
meter
right,
but.
H
G
G
So
the
idea
is
created
opposite
from
what
you're
stating.
So
the
idea
is
those
those
permit
holders
are
allowed
to
park
in
their
parking
areas,
those
visitors
that
are
coming
to
their
areas
and
I'm
going
to
use
the
example
of
a
hospital,
because
that's
where
we
see
a
lot
of
the
the
misuse
of
permit
rather
than
parking
in
paid
parking
or
buying
a
parking
permit
that
the
hospital
may
offer
they
would
rather
park
three
blocks
away
in
that
residential
area,
not
pay
for
a
meter
but
park
for
free
in
the
residential
area.
G
So
in
creating
the
hybrid
we're
looking
at
a
way
of
how
can
we
then
charge
those
folks
that
are
parking
in
those
residential
areas
where
it's
got
two
hour
parking
and
they're
taking
the
chance
on
okay,
I
can
park
my
car
here
for
two
hours.
I
know
enforcement
is
going
to
come
out,
maybe
at
eight
o'clock,
so
by
10
o'clock.
My
my
tires
might
be
chopped
or
electronically.
G
I've
got
to
move
my
car
by
noon
and
if
enforcement
isn't
out
there,
then
I'm
still
good.
I
can
take
the
chance.
H
G
D
A
I
could
just
give
up,
you
know,
add
a
point
here.
The
way
I've
liked
to
think
about
the
or
the
hybrid
system
that
would
possibly
work,
for
instance
in
bloomfield
is
those
main
street
spots
are
are
open
for
people
that
are
using
the
main
street
and
they
go.
You
know,
I'm
not
saying
anything.
You
don't
already
know
that
you
know
they
go
a
block
or
two
blocks
back
and
park
in
that
neighborhood
and
they're
going
to
the
main
street.
H
H
West
pen
and
children's
they're
so
close
together,
it's
a
double
whammy,
so
that
yeah,
it's
a
constant
stress
on
the
neighborhood
that,
though
the
medical,
the
hospital
workers
find
the
fine
spots
and
nooks
and
crannies
in
our
parking
and
taking
up
those
curb
lengths
so
yeah.
So
this
has
been
something
I
know.
We've
talked
about
for
many
many
years.
I.
D
Think
the
other
possibility
to
alleviate
that
issue
would
be
increasing
the
fine
for
the
person
who's
illegally
parking
in
the
rpp
zone.
Because
if
you
park
there
every
day
and
you
don't
get
caught,
it
still
could
be
cheaper
with
the
fees
today
than
paying
for
a
monthly
garage
at
the
hospital
and
that
so
they'll
take
their
chances
and
pay
the
parking
tickets,
because
it's
less
expensive
than
pulling
into
the
garage
on
a
daily
basis.
Just
because
of
our
fee
structure.
D
H
That's
I'm
glad
I
asked,
but
I
will
I'm
still
going
to
maintain
that
you
cut
me
off
before.
Let
me
finish
my
thought
and
that
it
works
also
to
the
resident's
advantage
when
they
have
visitors,
because
they
could
just
pay
it
as
with
the
cash
app
with
the
parking
app
right.
So
it's
especially
helpful,
but
it
also,
I
think,
is-
is
fantastic
that
we
are
adjusting
the
ordinance
so
that
we
can
address.
This.
H
Relative
has
been
just
a
constant
bane
in
a
lot
of
these
neighborhoods,
which
is
like
those
large
employment,
centers
parking
all
throughout
the
rpp.
So
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
will
be
happy
and
hope
that
this
part
works.
But
I
was
also
trying
to
get
to
there's
two
things
here,
right,
so
the
hybrid
model,
and
then
I
see
on
the
same
page
in
the
section
just
above
it
that
there's
it
mentions
dynamic
hours
and
so
help
us,
because
that
raises
the
spectrodynamic
pricing
which
we
only
have
in
south
side.
H
No
I'm
saying
in
this
bill,
it
says
dynamic
hours
is
something
you're,
creating
that
we
don't
have
now
price.
C
Yeah,
and
so
what
that
is,
is
you
know
so?
Obviously
there
are
you
know
certain
hours
in
which
you
know
the
parking
authority
enforcement
officers
typically
work
and
that
you
know
it
too.
You
know,
and
so
we
tend
to
typically
have
you
know.
Gwen
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here.
It's
like
9
00
a.m,
to
7
00
p.m
is
is,
is
the
general
hours
of
most
of
our
districts
with
a
one
to
two
hour
grace
period,
you
know
with
the
hybrid
areas.
C
What
it's
saying
is
that
if
people
were
looking
to
have
nighttime
enforcement,
for
example,
with
one
of
those
hybrid
areas
that
it
would
be
associated
with,
you
know,
with
a
pen
or
what
you
know
that
you
know
that
you
know
that
there
would
be
some
way
to
then
be
able
to
generate
additional
revenue.
You
know
that
goes
towards
helping
to
offset
some
of
those
costs
for
nighttime
enforcement
of
a
potential
hybrid
district.
If
that
were
to
take
place,
yeah.
H
So
that's
that's
great
because
we've
been
talking
about,
I
always
like
to
acknowledge
that
lawrenceville
has
not
gotten
its
ped,
that
it
thought
it
deserved
before
south
side
and
it's
been
years
it's
been
years
and
we
had
promised
to
work
on
it
at
the
beginning
of
2020.
It
was
on
our
policy
calendar
to
do
and
make
sure
it
happened
in
2020.
But
then
you
know
a
global
pandemic
happens,
so
that
still
hasn't
happened.
H
So
we
are
going
to
be
talking
to
you
about
that
very
shortly,
probably
for
the
strip
and
lawrenceville,
and
so
it
will
have
some.
I
think
the
dynamic
hours
gets
us
to
that
increment
that
we're
looking
for
for
revenue
right,
but
the
dynamic
pricing
also-
and
I
believe
you
do-
have
dynamic
pricing
in
the
south
side.
Do
you
not.
D
Right
right
now,
during
the
day,
there's
usually
there's
internet
plenty
of
utilization
spaces
that
we
don't
need
to
increase
it
in
the
pad.
We
just
set
a
standard
rate
and
that's
enforced
during
those
hours.
H
So
it
doesn't
have
to
fluctuate.
You
know
every
minute,
but
still
you
can
kind
of
you
have
the
authority
because
we
gave
it
to
you
to
assess
occupancy
or
you
know
parking
demand
and
then
say
whether
or
not
the
price
should
be
higher.
Would.
D
H
Oh,
I
forgot
how
we
structured
that,
but
yeah
we
did
that
back
in
2015
or
20.
so
yeah.
So
I
think
that's
also
interesting,
but
I
don't
see
the
pricing
part
referred
to
here,
but
it's
still
on
the
books,
and
so
we
can
still
do
that.
H
D
H
That's
excellent
good
good
to
know
so
we
will
probably
be
be
talking
a
lot
more
with
you
soon
here,
as
we're
kind
of
getting
back
to
business
as
usual
and
parking
is
coming
back,
parking
pressure
is
coming
back,
traffic
is
coming,
traffic
is
insane
and
please
everyone
slow
down
and
stop
driving
so
aggressively
on
the
city
streets.
E
Can
tailor
this
but
to
go
down
the
the
road
of
this
landlord
permit?
You
know
there
was
significant
pushback
to
the
the
suggestion
of
this
in
oakland
and
from
oakland
residents
about
someone
that
might
own
substantive
rental
property
and
the
kind
of
permits
they
might
be
able
to
acquire
and
and
the
the
vehicle
fleets
they
might
have
and
how
that
could
could
really
really
add
significant
impact
to
already
challenged
areas
like
south
oakland
and
central.
C
Sure
so
what
was
what
was
outlined
and
proposed?
You
know
it
was
something
that
in
the
survey
we
did
get
mixed
results.
You
know
mixed
responses
from
from
primarily
residents
in
perma
and
permit
areas,
but
there
was
definitely
something
that
came
up.
As
you
know
that
has
come
up
to.
C
I
think
a
number
of
us
as
a
consistent
need
that
you
know
that
landlords
who
own
properties
within
a
residential
parking
area
are
doing
things
that
are
typically
longer
than
you
know
the
grace
period
and
you
know
in
a
permanent
parking
district.
So
you
know
that
you
know
if
they
are
cleaning
out
a
unit
if
they're
doing
maintenance.
C
If
there
are
those
things
that
it
is
something
that
typically
lasts
for
longer
than
one
or
two
hours
in
a
district
and
that
presently
there
is
no
way
for
a
landlord
to
get
a
permit
for
a
district
except
to
ask
for
an
exemption
from
the
parking
authority,
and
so
we
would.
We
did
want
to
try
to
create
a
structure
for
there
to
be
the
ability
for
that
to
take
place.
C
I
think
we
wanted
to
you,
know,
put
a
higher
fee
to
you
know
to
those
types
of
permits,
so
it
wasn't
something
that
you
know
that
got
exp.
You
know
that
we
tried
to
minimize
exploitation
of
it
while
allowing
for
the
opportunity
for
that
to
take
place,
and
so
you
know
if
that
is
the
you
know.
C
If
you
know
the
way
it
was
proposed
in
the
in
the
code,
amendments
that
were
sent
to
city
council
was
that
if
they
are
documenting
ownership,
if
they
are
documenting,
you
know
through
listings
and
otherwise
that
you
know
they
have
property
that
is
listed
as
rental
property
and
they
provide
registration
cards
for
the
vehicles
that
you
know
that
you
know
they.
You
know
that
their
their
business
owns.
You
know
that
they
would
be
able
to
have
the
opportunity
to
purchase
a
non-resident
permit
to
be
able
to
park
in
that
district
for
those
purposes.
C
So
you
know
so
that
was
that
was
the
intent.
That
was
the
intent
there
was
to
allow,
for
you
know
one
of
those
activities
that
do
go
on
in
our
residential
districts,
typically
during
the
daytime,
because
that's
the
time
when
most
of
our
rpp
areas
are
and
are
in
place,
but
that
it
was
an
activity
that
occurs
for
usually
longer
than
that
grace
period
that
one
or
two
hours.
E
I
just
think
I'd
like
to
see
it
tailored
more
tightly
than
it
is,
and
I
just
need
some
time
with
that
to
kind
of
digest.
I
can
understand
the
I
would
I
guess
I
could
argue:
every
business
owner
would
be
able
to
argue
some
level
of
impact
that
they
want
to.
You
know
to
to
tend
to
or
manage
their
business
in
some
way,
shape
or
form,
and
then
therefore
they
or
their
assigned
agent,
he
or
she
should
have
qualification,
then
for
a
permit,
because
they're.
B
E
You
know
so
I
I
just
I'm
a
little,
because
you
know
the
realtors
association
may
not
look
as
at
rental
property
as
a
business
that
should
be
licensed,
but
I
think
we
do
and
I'm
just
afraid
that
it
could
become
un
wielding
and
really
begin
to
take
a
life
of
its
own.
G
I
think
one
of
the
areas
that
we
tried
to
cover
in
that
was
currently
this
is
handled
through
the
variance
process.
Where
someone
can
call
and
say
I
need
a
permit
for
this
period
of
time
and
we've
been
issuing
those
up
up
to
a
two
week
period
or
someone
doing
work
or
something
outside
of
the
regular
permit
process.
G
C
And
and
to
to,
I
think
one
of
your
to
one
of
your
other
statements,
councilman
and
glenn
or
dave-
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here.
But
you
know,
if
someone
has
a
business
in
a
residential
permanent
parking
area,
they
are
allowed
one
permit
presently.
F
E
And
and
multiple
people
serving
as
their.
D
C
A
This
is
a
good
time
for
me
to
ask
my
one
question,
which
is
a
lot
of
my
residents.
Were
you
know
asking
this
question?
Will
this
regulate
airbnb
parking.
A
C
It
wouldn't
be
a
residence
under
you
know
under
the
code,
so
I
don't
know
how
that's
being
handled
presently.
G
Apparently,
those
are
identified
as
visitors
and
they
are
giving
given
variances
at
this
time.
G
D
A
A
C
G
I
think
it
should
be
paid
parking
just
like
our
meter
parking
if
there's
an
airbnb
in
the
area,
it
should
be
part
of
the
hybrid
areas
where
we're
looking
at
how
they
pay
for
those
things.
B
G
One
thing
that
we've
kind
of
kicked
around
in
in
our
areas
is
looking
at
looking
at
those
rb,
rb
and
airbnb
areas
and
having
the
owners
register
as
an
airbnb
and
then
having
a
special
rate.
That's
identified
for
those
people
that
are
staying
and
using,
but
the
address
would
have
to
be
in
our
system
as
an
airbnb
and
that
there
would
be
a
cost
associated
with
them.
Registering.
E
F
C
Just
as
an
example-
and
I'm
sorry,
I
can't,
but
you
can
see
the
sign,
that's
there,
you
know
in
one
direction
it
is
permit
parking
and
below
that
they
have
just
like
the
number
that
you
would
put
into
the
into
the
the
app.
C
This
is
an
example
from
columbus
ohio,
but
you
know
where,
where
they,
where
they
have
a
similar
program
to
what
would
what
the
hybrid
areas
would
look
like
and
that's
how
that's
how
they
have
those
signed
where
they
have
you
know
this
area
is
residential,
is
is
residential,
permit
parking,
but
then
they
have.
You
know
underneath
that
an
additional
sign
that
has
you
know
that
if
you
pay
by
the
app
this
is
your
zone,
you
would.
A
So
these
hybrid
zones-
I
like
to
fly
into
this,
because
this
is
the
main
major
concern
of
a
couple
of
my
rvp
districts-
people
that
live
in
them,
so
one
I
just
want
to
get
this.
You
know
out
out
there
is
that
if
in
our,
if
a
hybrid
zone
is
created,
will
there
be?
Will
you
start
installing
parking
meters
in
front
of
people's
houses.
D
A
I
know
the
answer.
The
question
is
one
and
furthermore,
if
like
how,
how
would
that
process
work
for
high
resolution?
What
a
community
group
say
to
the
council
person,
or
can
anyone
come
up
with
an
idea
of
like
hey
I'd
like
to
do
this
and
then
what's
that
process,
I
would
bring
that
to
the
council
table.
I
would
work
with
domi.
How
would
that
work.
D
A
C
No,
usually
it
would
go
through
the
planning
commission
process.
First,
I
mean,
even
if
it's
you
know,
I
mean
you
know
no
matter
who
initiates
that
just
for
their
review
and
recommendation,
but
city
council
would
be
the
one
to
ultimately
determine
whether
or
not
they
wanted
to
make
that
change.
Okay,.
C
There
would
be
yes,
there
would
be
the
the
planning
commission,
the
planning
commission
part
of
the
process
serves
as
as
a
public
hearing.
In
addition
to
that
with
you
know,
either
this
type
of
change
or
creating
a
new
district
or
those
kinds
of
things.
If
there
was
a
registered
community
organization,
there
would
be
the
requirement
to
meet
with
that
registered
community
organization
as
well.
So
you
know
formal
public
hearing
would
take
place
at
the
planning
commission
meeting
with
a
registered
community
organization
would
be
a
part
of
that
process
as
well.
C
You
know
at
you
know
at
minimum.
Typically
in
these
processes,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
what
I'd
say.
Informal
public
engagement
that
isn't
required
by
the
code
per
se,
but
obviously
is
you
know,
is
done
to
make
sure
that
you
know
this
is
something
that
residents
want
to
make
sure
to
see
happen
before
we
get
to
the
legislative
process.
F
A
A
I
don't,
if
there's
a
question
good,
you
know
or
a
good
concern.
It
comes
up.
We
should
you
know,
hold
and
and
continue
to
work
through
it.
You
know,
but
to
your
point,
you
know
in
the
timeline
we
should
just
you
know.
Some
of
the
costs
were
mentioned
here.
We
should
just
clarify.
A
A
You
know
whoever
that
might
be
and
talk
about
that
process
of
you
know
how
that
will
be
managed
talk
about
these
new
ideas
of
implement
new
the
possibilities
of
hybrid
possibilities
of
you
know
x,
y
and
z,
but
the
actual
cost
of
the
permit
will
stay
twenty
dollars
under
this.
A
This
this
legislation,
and
also
that
dynamic
fee
that
you
mentioned
director,
would
wouldn't
be
in
place
with
this
with
this
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
public
unless
you
know
I
have
that
wrong.
Anyone
because
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
prices
as
well,
but
this
whole
process
right
here
that
we're
talking
about
this
bill,
we're
talking
about
only
separates
the
management
of
it
and
implements
some
new
ideas.
D
A
Yeah,
and
so
that's
those
fees
this.
This
also
strikes
that
we
have
to
for
the
fee
to
change.
It
would
now
be
in
the
fee
schedule
at
center
or
with
the
budget,
which
is
the
the
great
point,
because
that's
going
to
lead
to
is
that
you
know
that's
for
council
to
to
see
and
what
will
be
sent
over
to
discuss
that
and
whether
or
not
we
approve,
but
that's
outside
this
ordinance,
and
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
change
the
ordinance
every
time
to
change
those
fees.
A
I
had
another
point
on
that.
I'm
forgetting
it,
though,.
C
A
A
C
Solely
in
the
code-
and
that
was
part
of
the
reason
to
be
able
to
pull
those
fees
out,
is
that
you
know
to
change.
The
fees
would
have
required
a
change
in
the
code.
So
what
we
did
was
you
know
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
city
council
still
had,
you
know,
still
had
ultimate
approval
over
potential
fees,
but
that
you
know
that
process
going
into
the
fee
schedule
kind
of
goes
into
the
same
way
that
we
adjust
other
permit
costs.
C
Whether
that's
permits
that
you
know
we
have
you
know
the
department
of
city
planning
or
permits
licenses
inspections
do
through
the
development.
You
know
through
development
process.
You
know
those
are
all
handled
by
the
schedule
that
city
council
is
ultimately
the
one
who
approves
and
so
we'd
be
doing
the
same
thing
with
with
these
permits
as
well,
but
not
like
you
said
not
necessarily
changing
the
fees
with
this
ordinance.
A
And
thank
you
for
bringing
up
that
point
of
how
it's
a
40
year
old
fee
that
we
see
currently
with
20,
and
to
that
point
you
know
I
know
gwen.
You
can
speak
to
this
dave.
You
can
speak
to
this.
Does
that
cover
the
program,
absolutely
a
program
that
a
program
that
keeps
you
know
tries
to?
You
know
manage
commuters
that
will
come
into
their
their
neighborhood
and
park
for
free.
Does
that
cover
the
program.
H
So
this
is
constituent
asking
advocating
for
the
permits
to
be
more
expensive
right,
but
given
that
she
understands
that
probably
a
lot
of
her
neighbors
don't
agree
with
her,
but
so
we
need
to
we,
you
know,
have
the
public
when
we
see
that
this
20
per
permit
hasn't
increased
since
1981.
H
We
it's
obvious
that
the
costs
have
increased
and
we
just
need
to
bring
them
back
in
balance.
D
F
H
E
Right,
the
program's
always
been
a
loss
leader.
Always
that
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
continue
that
way.
But
I
do
I
do
like
the
way
it's
structured.
I
have
a
couple
questions
about
it,
I'm
glad
we
had
this
discussion,
but
I
do
like
the
fact
that
we've
separated
the
fees
out
making
part
of
the
fee
schedule
that
comes
over
for
approval
of
counsel
and
I
think
and
councilman.
E
I
commend
you
for
your
work
is
when
I
I
don't
know
that
you
know
this,
but
when
patrick
came
in
to
counsel
before
you
assumed
to
see
patrick
and
I
attempted
because
children's
hospital
was
being
built
and
we
attempted
to
wrangle
this
monster
that
had
become
rpp
and
we
both
surrendered.
We
threw
our.
F
A
Well,
I
mean
I
have
to
have
well
thanks,
but
I
you
know
when
I
first
came
into
office.
I
I
just
asked
the
director
literally
like
oh,
what
are
you
working
on?
What
do
you
do?
What
do
you
what's
going
on
and
then
it
came
out
that
this
has
been
something
you
all
been
working
on,
and
so
a
lot
of
this
came
out
of
that
work.
I
just
wanted
to.
You
know:
try
to
steward
it
forward
and
across
the
globe
across
the
goal
line.
Yeah.
H
We
did
significantly
chop
up
some
of
the
original
districts,
probably
as
a
result
of
your
other
efforts,
because
one
of
the
first
things
that
happened
when
I
came
in
is
we
area
a
was
in
my
district
by
children's
and
that
got
divided
up
into
three
parts.
I
think,
because
it
was
so
massive
and
had
just
had
a
lot
more
residence
and
a
lot
more
permits.
It
was
one
of
the
areas
that
really
had
there
was
a
there.
Was
there
a
black
market
trade
because
of
the
employees
but
wanting
to
buy
people's
permits?
H
A
Director
lucas,
thank
you
for
for
being
here.
I
really
appreciate
you
know
everyone
coming
today.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
the
opportunity,
if
you
have
something
that
you
want
to
clarify
here
before
we
adjourn
this
meeting
unless
so,
unless
other
members
had
something
to
add.
I
Thanks
for
having
me
my
apologies
for
the
confusion
at
the
beginning,
and
by
not
being
here,
that
was
the
confusion
for
me
to
the
extent
that
domi
is
being
brought
into
this
process.
We
have
previously
not
been
a
part
of
this
process
as
the
department
of
city
planning
and,
of
course,
for
the
enforcement
aspects,
the
parking
authority
and,
first,
who
went
to
the
conversations
about
cost
of
covering
the
program.
We
would
need
people.
I
I
And
I
anticipate
once
this
has
been
refreshed
and
it's
a
more
open
process
and
there's
more
opportunity
that
we're
going
to
see
more
demand
for
rpp
zones
and
more
requests
than
we've,
probably
seen
before,
because
now
the
barrier
for
entry
for
making
that
request
has
changed
with
more
opportunities.
So
I
would
expect
the
demand
for
city
staff.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
coming
in
and
talking
about
that,
because
that
was
one
of
the
points
that
we
had
discussed
and
I
said
that
I
support
that.
We,
you
know,
must
support
the
program
where
it's
gonna,
where
it's
gonna
work,
and
so,
if
it's
an
additional
staff
member
or
we
can
see
how
that's
going,
I
think
it's
necessary.