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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
wednesday
april
7
2021.
council
will
continue
to
meet
virtually
until
further
notice.
Meetings
can
now
be
viewed,
live
on
the
city
channel
and
live
streamed
on
youtube.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
to
matters
of
concern,
official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
seek
city
council
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
B
B
B
B
What
I
am
disappointed
in
by
the
city
is
the
lack
of
swift
and
immediate
redress
to
the
indigenous
people.
We've
been
on
this
line
speaking
for
a
whole
year
about
wrongs
that
need
to
be
writed,
and
yet
again,
another
member
of
mines
had
had
their
automobiles
stolen
by
the
city,
no
notice,
no
knocking
on
the
door.
B
B
B
A
A
D
Hi,
I'm
kim
wilkes
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
heron
avenue
corridor.
A
lot
of
you
run
down
for
one
thing:
the
martin
luther
king.
D
What
is
it
called
the
reading
center,
the
formal
reading
center
of
martin
luther
king
up
on
heron
avenue?
I
would
like
to
request
that
that
would
be
considered
for
a
neighborhood
community
center.
That
was
a
beautiful
brand
new
building.
That's
been
left
to
blight
and
destruction
of
weeds
and
it
also
had
a
nice.
What
was
it
called
a
place,
a
planter
beside
it?
D
It
had
a
nice
greenhouse
beside
it
that
I
thought
was
the
community
was
using,
but
now
the
place
is
just
abandoned
and
it's
a
shame
that
was
a
brand
new
building
and
it
should
be
used
as
a
community
center
for
the
hill
district,
a
fully
serviced,
full-time
community
center,
that's
a
nice
building
and
then,
as
you
come
further
up
the
corridor,
there's
that
old
gas
station
there
that's
been
run
down
for
years,
and
then
you
come
further
down
the
hill.
D
D
The
heron
avenue
bridge
right
there
at
the
martin
luther
king
best
way,
they're
starting
to
graffiti
the
bridge,
the
the
jersey
barrier
there.
It
would
be
nice
if
they
could
paint
that
jersey
barrier
and
beautify
it
also,
as
you
get
to
the
heron
avenue
bridge
there,
that
street
that
goes
down
right
at
the
bridge.
We
finn
street
that's
right
at
the
bus
way.
All
the
lights
are
out
on
this
on
that
bus
way.
D
A
lot
of
times
and
also
there's
sections
of
the
railing
that
had
been
knocked
out
and
that's
a
15
to
20
foot
drop
that
any
child
could
drop
through
that
fence
right
down
onto
the
busway
and
nothing's
been
done
about
it.
I
had
them
put
jersey
barriers
up
there,
but
now
it
impedes
what
may
get
my
garbage
picked
up,
because
the
garbage
truck
doesn't
want
to
make
that
that
corner
and-
and
I
asked
them
to
replace
their
own
rally-
they
say:
oh,
we
can't
you
can't
find
our
rolling.
That's
not
a
hard
thing
to.
D
They
still
make
that
and
also
there's
one
two
three
four
sections
knocked
out
now
and
it's
right
at
the
end
of
linoleum,
where
you
could
drive
off
there
into
ice
right
over,
but
that's
where
the
jersey
barriers
are
and
they
should
come
down
redo.
Those
fences
also
3326
will
be
as
a
condemned
abandoned
property.
D
It's
delinquent
four
years
delinquent
on
his
taxes,
it's
been
several
times
reported
to
311
committee
for
community
center
for
having
trash
and
garbage
in
the
yard
and
for
being
in
bad
shape.
I've
tried
to
get
a
tour
down.
I
tried
try
to
get
it
demolished.
I
tried
to
even
get
a
clean
and
mean
because
the
yard
is
full
of
house
waste
and
yard
waste
and
nothing's
been
done
about
it.
A
Okay,
david:
if,
for
whatever
reason
something
gets
worked
out,
we
can
try
to
take
her
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
having
exhausted
our
registered
speakers.
We'll
move
on
to
our
sending
committee
agenda
where
the
clerk
please
take
the
role.
C
C
C
G
A
A
Thank
you.
Our
first
committee
of
the
day
is
finance
and
law,
which
is
chaired
by
myself.
We
have
one
deferred
paper
bill,
1331.
E
A
E
A
J
A
K
A
L
M
Yes,
second,
just
very
brief
discussion.
I
I
I
believe,
friends
of
sussex
park
are
all
in
agreement
with
us.
We've
reached
out
to
a
number
of
people
like
conversations
just
in
case
there
is
some
minor
adjustment
that
might
need
to
be
made.
I
may
ask
for
re-committal
on
tuesday,
but
at
this
stage
I'd
ask
very
much
if
members
would
support.
Thank
you.
L
Motion
for
a
brief
discuss
question
second,
okay
yeah.
This
is
this
is
to
do
with
the
tracking
system.
I
imagine-
and
I
am
not
in
favor
of
it,
but
just
want
to
open
up
to
other
members.
If
you
have
any
comments.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
would
like
to
hear
what
our
plans
are
to
improve
upon
this
system,
and
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
glitches
in
the
past.
J
I'd
love
to
just
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
we've
learned
from
that
experience
this
last
winter
and
what
we're
already
doing
and
what
we
will
do
in
the
future,
given
that
this
is
the
same
vendor
to
improve
upon
the
snow,
plow
tracking
system,
so
that
everyone
understands
why
we're
going
where
we're
going
and
how
much
salt
has
been
dropped
and
what
you
know
where
we're
plowing.
All
of
that.
So
I'm
happy
to
you
know
acting
director
hornstein
or
dr
paulus.
Whoever
can
answer
that
question
for
me.
K
Oh,
thank
you.
Everyone,
chris
hornstein,
acting
director
of
public
works
to
the
point
the
you
know.
Yes,
we've
had
our
challenges
with
the
snowplow
optimization
software
to
this
point,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
done
a
lot
of
work
correcting
that
issue.
K
There
are
particular
challenges
with
the
trucks
and
equipment
ourselves
that
we're
working
to
resolve
internally,
that
involves
you
know
getting
new
certain
salt
spreaders
for
certain
trucks
that
allow
for
better
control,
better
reporting.
I
will
say
that
you
know,
from
the
perspective
of
you
know,
tracking
progress
extremely
useful
for
the
from
the
perspective
of
you
know,
understanding
the
amount
of
salt
that's
being
put
down
on
the
streets
and
that
it's
appropriate
and
it's
applicable
while
still
giving
our
drivers.
K
K
I
think
the
other
piece
that
we're
seeing
as
we
go
through
you
know,
optimization
and
reporting-
is
that
this
gives
us
a
baseline
to
have
some
more
in-depth
conversations
with
penndot,
whereby
we
can,
you
know,
improve
our
some
of
our
responsiveness
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
where
we
can
be
a
little
bit
more
responsive
to
residents
and
have
a
more
detailed,
focused
conversation
backed
up
by
data.
I
think
that's
really
really
important.
I
think
that
will
help
save
our
drivers.
K
Time,
save
the
you
know,
get
and
get
better
snow
response
into
into
neighborhoods
in
general.
J
So
thank
you
for
that.
What
I'm
hearing
is
quality
control
and
is
that
quality
control,
then
by
dpw
leadership
or
by
you
know,
drivers
themselves
over
the
technology
or
who's
doing
the
quality
control.
So.
K
Right,
so
the
quality
control
on
the
optimization
is
is
kind
of
a
three-pronged
effort,
so
I
would
it
is
dpw
leadership,
so
I'm
directly
involved
with
inp
who
is
kind
of
spearheading
and
building
the
optimization
of
that
piece,
and
then
we
take
feedback
directly
from
supervisors
and
drivers
on
how
the
route
optimization
is
crafted,
and
you
know
I've
specifically
instructed
supervisors
and
drivers.
K
You
know
with
the
optimized
route.
Our
goal
here
is
to
make
sure
that
you
know
drivers
are
finishing
up
a
route
when
they're,
mostly
out
of
salt,
and
so
no
optimized
route
is
going
to
cover
all
of
the
particular
instances
of
snow
or
ice
that
a
driver
might
experience.
So
the
drivers
do
have
some
latitude
to
you
know
kind
of
make
a
call
in
the
field
while
at
the
same
time
you
know
understanding
what
their
responsibility
is.
So
that's
the
hope
of
the
technology.
K
You
know
we
are
finalizing
the
deployment
of
the
tablets
now
into
the
trucks
we've
already
completed,
that
testing,
so
we're
already
getting
feedback.
Now,
as
to
you
know
the
interface
with
the
with
the
devices
in
the
truck
to
the
driver's
benefit
and
crafting
that
in
so
to
answer
your
question
council
person,
it
is
a
three-pronged
effort
between
dbw
leadership,
int
and
then
the
you
know:
supervisors
and
drivers
in
the
field
in
terms
of
quality
control
with
the
vendor.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
generally
supportive
of
this
technology.
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
it's
for
a
few
reasons,
one
so
that
we
as
council
offices,
can
be
communicating
with
the
public
and
saying
here's
where
we're
seeing
a
snowplow.
Yes,
they
have
come
to
your
street.
They
probably
will
come
back
again.
J
You
know
and
be
communicating
that
second
to
ensure
that
there's
not
favoritism
in
one
part
of
town
over
another,
so
we
can
demonstrate
that
we're
using
data
and
actually
show
where
the,
where
the
trucks
are,
when
the
salt's
been
spread
and
three
to
to
look
at
the
data
afterwards
and
assess
where
you
know
how
improvements
can
be
made
for
the
with
the
snowfall,
but
I'm
glad
that
you
said
that
there's
latitude,
because
I
also
think
that
data
isn't
everything
that
the
the
wisdom
of
the
drivers
and
the
institutional
memory
and
knowledge
is
really
important
to
listen
to
too.
J
So
I'm
glad
that
there
is
some
latitude
there
to
allow
them
to
make
decisions
as
necessary.
So
that
sounds
good.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
we
can
continue
to
improve
next
winter.
Thank
you.
L
Yes,
hey
chris
thanks
for
being
here,
you
know,
I
guess
I
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
an
old
prude,
but
you
know
the
the
the
trapping
system.
You
know
I
know,
there's
many
good
things
about
it.
You
know,
I
know
that
the
supervisors
can
see
what
streets
are
done
in
real
time
and
where
they're
at
there's
also
things
that
were.
L
L
Only
have
two
salt
trucks
when
you
know
manchester
has
20.
so
so
it
really
caused
me
more
work
than
when
than
what
it
was
worth
for
me.
You
know
I
I
spent
many
days
director
just
calling
people
back
and
trying
to
explain.
Oh,
it's
not
showing
up
on
the
system
because
the
truck's
not
going
fast
enough.
Well,
the
truck's
not
going
fast
enough,
because
it's
going
down
a
grade,
28
percent,
a
graded
hill
and
it
can
only
go
four
or
five
miles
per
hour.
L
So
I
guess,
has
that
been
corrected
or
is
it
next
year?
Are
we
going
to
be
dealing
with
that
same
thing?.
K
No
it's
in
the
process
of
being
corrected.
You
know
some
of
that
is
some
of
the
trucks
by
nature
of
the
you
know
as
you're
familiar
with
this
term
councilman
the
salt
hogs,
you
know
we're
having
really
difficult
real
difficulty
with
reporting
with
that
technology,
we're
switching
those
out
we're
going
to
a
different
in-bed
salt
hog
for
those
trucks
that
will
work
better
with
our
system.
K
So
that's
going
to
be
happening
this
year.
So
some
of
it
is
you
know
the
gps
devices,
weren't
necessarily
reporting,
especially
on
some
of
the
newer
trucks
where
they
had
quite
been
installed,
and
we
were
just
because
of
the
amount
of
snowfall.
This
year
we
were
pressed
to
get
those
trucks
into
service
as
fast
as
possible.
K
I
would
also
say
that
you
know
I
could
understand
that
concern
that
you
would
have
and
that
citizens
would
have
in
that
I,
but
I
do
think
you
know
in
my
response
to
some
citizens,
complaints
for
your
district,
extremely
helpful
for
me
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
data
and
see
where
folks
have
been
to
either
validate
their
concern
or
or
just
you
know,
have
a
conversation
on
fault.
L
And
I
wish
we
would,
you
know
as
far
as
the
salt
distribution
goes
and
regulating
that,
and
it
was
great
that
we
upped
it
from
400
pounds
per
mile
to
800
pounds,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
be,
for
you
know
for
the
judgment
of
the
driver.
L
So
many
you
know
every
every
snowfall
ice
storm
is
different.
Some
require
more
salt,
some
require
less
salt,
so
all
depends
on
the
temperature
and
variable
amount
of
factors
there,
but
but
yeah.
So
I
just
don't
like
being
I
just
don't
like
the
drivers
being,
you
know
controlled
by
a
computer
and
when
they
know
better,
you
know
I
feel
so
again
I
will
say
there
are
some
good
things
about
it.
The.
L
You
know
the
supervisors
being
able
to.
You
know,
see
what
roads
have
been
done,
which
roads
have
not.
But
for
me
it
just
caused
a
lot
of
aggravation.
You
know
before
the
tractor
system
it
seemed
like
we
were
doing
just
fine
just
by
maybe
some
drivers
dumped
too
much
salt.
Maybe
some
didn't
do
enough,
but
that's
why
we
have
people
in
the
field
checking
on
it
and
you
know
regulating
that
and
you
know
hopefully
getting
it
down
where
not
to
a
science.
L
It's
never
going
to
be
to
a
science,
but
you
know
where
the
drivers
are
doing
the
right
thing
and
I
just
always
feel
like
it's
better
left
to
the
driver
because
they're
out
there
in
the
condition
themselves
than
to
a
computer,
so
so
yeah.
I
have
a
hard
time
supporting
it.
You
know
that's
right
up
there
with
smart
garbage
cans.
For
me
I
know
they
both
have
their
advantages,
but
I
think
the
disadvantages
that
come
with
them
kind
of
nullify
that
so
just
my
thoughts
thanks.
H
Thank
you
records
good
to
see
you
and
I
I
feel
like
this
is
kind
of
an
annual
conversation.
I
don't
know
that
we
usually
have
it
in
april
right,
but
it's
this
kind
of
like
moving
parts
between
what
our
fleet
looks
like
and
what
the
needs
actually
are
in
the
street.
I
think
it's
really
it's.
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
it's
not
independent
of
just
the
technology
deployment.
H
We
know
that
we
are
trying
to
modernize
our
fleets.
We
know
that
we
have
a
significant
number
of
vehicles
that
are
out
for
repairs,
because
we
haven't
kept
up
with
replacement
cycles
of
the
fleet.
Would
you
like
to
take
an
opportunity
to
readdress
that
for
me
and
here's
my
very
layperson's
understanding,
which
is
I'm
not
a
sophisticated
understanding
of
the
types
of
vehicles
that
we
use?
H
Indeed,
pw
and
I
I
I
apologize
for
asking
the
same
questions
kind
of
every
year
and
I
need
help
with
the
vocabulary
and
understanding
the
proportions
of
the
different
types
of
vehicles
for
snow
removal.
H
But
I
see
smaller,
more
nimble
vehicles
in
other
cities
and
they
are
certainly
newer
vehicles
and
that's
a
challenge
for
us,
but
also
you
know,
we
have
very
demanding
territory,
especially
in
the
steep
streets.
We've
had
dangerous
situations
for
our
employees
and
for
the
public.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
in
modernization
and
what
what
council
needs
to
know.
K
Okay,
absolutely
I'd
love
to
talk
about
modernization.
So
to
answer
some
of
your
questions,
you
know
we
basically
have
three
types
of
vehicles
that
we
use
to
for
snow
operations.
So
that
would
be
what
we
call
like
a
10-ton
pickup.
K
K
That
has
the
you
know:
salt
band
and
the
spreader
sometimes
called
assault
hog
and
those
are
the
three
types
of
things
and
so
by
and
large,
the
most
vehicles
we
have
of
that
are
pickups,
which
are
the
smaller
vehicles
that
are
useful
for
navigating
areas
like
your
district
and
lawrenceville,
where
the
streets
are
very
narrow
and
the
large
vehicles
are
very
useful
for
wider
streets
and
plus
they
hold
more
salt,
so
they
can
cover
more
area.
K
So
they
are
an
efficiency,
and
so
you
know
that
is
another
piece
where
the
optimization
helps
us
and
that
we
can.
We
can
go
back
and
look
at
the
data
and
say:
okay,
you
know
we
might
not
necessarily
have
our
street
or
our
our
routes
constructed
optimally,
for
you
know
maximum
service
to
the
citizen.
So
getting
the
snow
off
the
street
as
fast
as
possible,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
data's
beginning
to
tell
us,
as
I
look
at
it
with
inp
and
with
the
vendor
the
in
terms
of
modernization.
K
So
we
were
able
to
get
13
vehicles
that
we
prioritized
for
snow
ops
this
year,
and
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
thing.
So,
in
the
past,
as
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
history
with
the
office
of
management
budget
staff
with
our
fleet
maintenance
folks,
basically,
what
used
to
happen
in
historically
was
that
we
would
get
an
influx
of
cash
and
we
would
replace,
say
all
the
trucks
in
a
particular
position.
K
Really
what
needs
to
happen
in
order
to
do
this
correctly
and
it's
something
that
I'm
committed
to
is
making
an
annual
investment
in
the
equipment
so
that
our
drivers,
instead
of
having
trucks
that
consistently
break
down
or
the
heat,
doesn't
work
in
the
cab
or
we
drop
an
axle
when
we're
going
up
a
hill
and
creating
a
dangerous
situation
for
the
driver
that
they're
always
outfitted
with
you
know
the
reasonably
newer
newer
vehicles.
K
We
know
the
newer
vehicles
work
better
with
the
technology,
so
it's
in
our
favor
to
do
that
and
that
just
helps
us.
It
helps
us
in
so
many
ways.
I
can't
tell
you
the
amount
of
downtime
that
we
have
due
to
vehicle
maintenance
for
public
works.
It
really
is
challenging
for
us
to
deal
with.
You
know,
roughly,
I
believe
in
2019.
K
I
haven't
yet
looked
at
the
data
for
2020,
but
in
2019
I
believe
we
lost
approximately.
You
know,
40
of
our
time
our
vehicles
were
down
for
roughly
40
of
the
time
which
is
really
really
high.
It
just
speaks
to
the
age,
the
age
of
our
fleet,
and
so
we
do
need
to
modernize.
We
are.
K
I
am
committed
to
modernizing
we're
tackling
that
through
a
variety
of
ways,
whether
that's
via
grants,
whether
that's
you
know
augmenting,
you
know,
funding
sources
to
help
to
help
figure
this
problem
out
and
solving
the
problem,
because,
honestly,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
just
what
puts
our
drivers
on
the
streets
as
soon
as
possible.
If
we
have
reliable
equipment-
and
you
know
it's
something
that
our
drivers
have
been
speaking
out
for
years
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
carry
the
torch.
H
I
thought
we'd
improved,
that's
I
and
I
thought
it
sounds,
maybe
that
we've
gotten
worse,
I
mean
I
had
a
kind
of
number
in
my
head
of
20
or
30
percent
of
the
time
that
that
the
fleet
was
kind
of
out
of
commission.
So
when
we
talk
about
time,
that
means
that,
like
at
any
given
moment,
those
20
to
30
or
what
I'm
hearing
is
40
of
those
vehicles
are
just
unavailable,
so
we're
working
at
almost
half
capacity.
H
H
10
ton,
trucks-
this
is
just
snow
removal.
God
knows,
we've
got
other
issues
with
you
know
everything
from
police
vehicles
to
you
know:
we've
made
investments
in
fire
vehicles
and
fire
stations.
We've
made
investments
in
other
other
categories
in
the
fleet.
So
we're
just
talking
now
about
the
snow
removal,
but
those
trucks
are
used
for
other
things,
the
rest
of
the
year.
Are
they
not
some
of
those?
Oh.
K
They're
not
parked
down
most
of
the
year
they're
used
year-round.
The
larger
trucks
are
used
to
haul.
You
know
hot
asphalt
in
the
summer,
as
well
as
just
clearing
material
and
debris.
Are
they
used?
You
know
24
7,
365,
no,
but
they're.
H
So
10-ton
trucks,
five-ton
trucks
and
pickups
again.
This
is
not
my
daily
world,
but
I
am
it's
really
important
for
the
public
and
council
to
to
know
about
this.
So
if
we
were
to
replace
the
whole
fleet
right,
so
we've
been
replacing
incrementally
what
is
the
whole
fleet
if
it
were
brand
new,
just
like
what's
the
math
on
that.
I
No
problem,
I
do
not
have
the
number
off
the
top
my
head
of
what
it
would
cost
to
replace
the
entire
fleet.
I
do
know
that
I've
been
working
with
brandon
walton,
who
is
the
manager
of
our
fleet
and
to
get
on
a
12-year
replacement
cycle
10
to
12
year
replacement
cycle
would
be
roughly
12
to
14
million
dollars
per
year
for
our
fleet,
but
that's
to
modernize
the
entire
city
fleet.
H
So
all
right-
let's
just
say
it's-
you
know,
half
of
that.
So
that's
six
billion
dollars
a
year
and
if
you
you
know
you
do
it
every
10
years.
That's
I'm
just
going
to
make
up
a
number.
60
million
would
easily
cover
all
new
trucks
of
five
ton:
three-ton
10-ton
five-ton
pickup.
Please
forgive
me
they're,
not
not
being
so
fluent
about
trucks
right.
H
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
get
my
my
mind
around
that
number
and
I'm
sure
you
will
always
remind
us,
and
we
should
always
remind
the
public,
that
you
can
look
up
the
plan
in
the
capital
budget
and
the
ela,
so
trucks
wouldn't
be
under
dpw,
so
you
wouldn't
look
there.
If
you
pulled
up
on
the
on
your
computer
right
now,
the
capital
budget
you'd
have
to
find
the
equipment,
leasing,
authority,
budget
right
and
so
where?
Where
do
we
know
where
that
is?
H
If
I
like
right
now,
I'm
like
poking
around
on
my
computer.
Is
it
at
the
back
of
the
capital
budget
or
something.
I
No,
I
have
the
2021
capital
budget
pulled
up
here
on
my
second
screen:
it's
labeled
the
capital
equipment
acquisition
as
a
project
name
in
the
capital
budget.
Thank.
H
You,
okay
right,
so
we
did.
You
know
we
did
discuss
these
all
of
these
budgets
in
all
of
our
budget
hearings
in
the
fall
and
voted
on
the
capital
budgets,
and
so
that's
that's
what
we're
working
with,
but
there
is
a
separate
authority
that
is
the
equipment,
leasing
authority
that
recommends
these
purchases
to
council.
So,
like
I
said,
we
have
this
discussion
more
than
once
a
year,
but
hey
it's.
H
It's
ineff
efficient,
not
just
for
the
employees
and
not
just
for
the
service
that
people
are
getting
right
that
were
falling
short
on
the
results
on
the
roads,
but
just
to
be
having
equipment
at
the
was
it
first
fleet.
What
is
that
called?
Are
they
still
doing
our
servicing
our
service
provider.
H
Services
right
to
have
them
always
at
first
vehicle
services.
Yet
it's
not
it's!
It's
not
really
smart
spending,
and
you
know
I've
voted
on
these
capital
budgets
myself
for
seven
years.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
just
say:
that's
that's!
You
know.
I
think
we
we're
in
the
financial
shape
now
where
we
can
do
better.
H
We
should
be
bringing
that
number
down,
so
I
I
think
that
for
me
it's
interrelated
to
the
technology
problem,
so
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
this
measure
today,
but
I've
been
in
the
same
situation
where
I'm
like
frantically
looking
at
the
snowplow
tracker
and
wondering
where
all
my
tracks,
my
trucks
are,
and
it
helps
to
be
able
to
explain
that,
especially
on
the
narrow
streets
of
my
district,
if
they're
the
smaller
pickup
trucks,
then
maybe
they're
not
being
tracked
as
well.
H
I
said
because
some
of
those
are
the
ones
with
the
salt
hogs
and
maybe
that's
part
of
of
that
problem.
So
I
think
that's
all
my
questions.
I
appreciate
you're
indulging
me
having
to
ask
these
questions
all
over
again.
That's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
L
Sorry
about
that,
when
we
talk
about
the
the
salt
hogs,
you
know
the
pickup
trucks.
You
know
when
I
look
at
the
number:
that's
we're
spending
for
the
modernization
in
the
tracking
system
at
2.1
million
dollars,
and
I'm
just
doing
my
own
guesstimation.
Here
I
mean
we're
talking
about
you
know
putting.
L
Maybe
if,
if
we
put
it
put
that
money
into
new
vehicles,
you
know
the
smaller
nimbler
ones
that
councilwoman
gross
had
mentioned,
which
I
feel
we
need
more
of
newer
ones
too,
just
because
of
the
streets
and
cars
are
parked
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
we
end
up.
We
end
up
in
a
lot
of
lawsuits
and
you
know
accidents
and
things
like
that.
Because
of
that
reason,
so
we're
talking
two
dozen
brand
new
vehicles
we
could
use
or
we
could
buy
somewhere
in
that
ballpark.
I
Ballpark,
I
I
don't
know
exactly
what
fully
updated,
I
will
say
the
the
updated
pickup
trucks.
If
I
were
to
estimate
it
would
probably
be
yeah
right
in
that
ballpark
of
60
65
000,
that
in
that
covers
the
cost
for
the
vehicle
and
the
cost
for
the
upfitting,
which
includes
the
salt
spreader
and
the
salt
hog,
which
carries
the
salt
on
the
back
right.
L
I,
for
one
would
rather
have
26
new
vehicles
on
the
road
and
have
our
supervisor
or
somebody
going
out
just
to
make
sure
that
all
the
streets
are
hit
like
we
did
before
computers.
You
know
so
so
yeah
I'd
much
rather
see
that
being
put
in
into
new
equipment
new
vehicles.
L
I
know
we
talked
about
you
know
the
public
works
division
that
we
will
be
building
this
summer
and
I
would
love
to
see
newer,
smaller
nimbler
fleet
there,
and
you
know
I
we
went
through
the
budget
and
I
know
you
have
only
so
much
to
work
with,
but
yeah
high
for
one
would
be.
You
know,
happy
to
transfer
that
money
and
buy
new
vehicles.
Everybody
gets
three
new
vehicles.
O
Thank
you.
I
just
I
want
to
echo
councilman
call
kill's
concern
comments,
that
I
think
that
we
need
the
equipment
and-
and
I
I
know
our
drivers
can
do
a
great
job
if
they,
if
we
work
with
them
and
allow
them
to
do
their
job,
I
don't
I.
I
really
think
that
the
snowplow
tracker
and
some
of
the
equipment
this
past
year
has
absolutely
caused
a
lot
of
concern
and
a
lot
of
disgruntled
employees.
O
And
so
I
I
just
like
to
know
how
you're
working
with
them
and
and
making
them
feel
more
comfortable
and
in
the
technology
and
using
the
technology,
because
I
really
feel
like
a
lot
of
them,
feel
like
it's
a
always
equipment,
that's
using
for
an
eye
gotcha
moment
and
not
really
beneficial
to
helping
them.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
glitches
that
I
understood
with
this
last
this
last
season
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
drivers
were
doing
the
the
routes,
the
way
that
they
should
have
been
doing,
but
there's
certain
things
like
a
truck
if
a
truck
has
to
back
up
and
some
other.
C
O
And-
and
I
know
that
you
were
coming
up
with
new
routes-
and
I
do
want
to
say-
I
did
hear
a
lot
of
compliments
about
some
of
the
streets
that
typically
weren't
getting
done
that
were
getting
done
this
past
year,
because
the
routes
were
changed,
but
then
there
were
also
people
that
were
uncertain
about
the
snow
routes
and
why
they
weren't
done
so.
There
was
a
lot
a
lot
of
concern
about
that.
I
actually
think
we
need
more
dialogue
about
this
before
we
just
pass
this.
O
So
could
you
could
somebody
tell
me,
can
somebody
answer,
how
are
you
working
with
the
employees
on
the
on
the
training
and
on
making
them
feel
valued
and
and
not
feel
as
if
this
is
my
gotcha
moment
and
using
it
for
discipline
versus
just
benefiting
a
better
snowplow
services
for
the
residents.
K
O
K
And
I
understand
that-
and
it's
in
my
it's
in
my
plan
for
this
year,
to
reach
out
and
to
visit
every
division
in
person
to
discuss
the
snow,
plow
technology
and
what
our
expectations
are
for
them
and
for
their
supervisors
and
I'll
tell
you
it's
actually
really
beneficial
to
the
city
and
to
the
drivers.
We
use
it
to
protect
them.
K
We
had
a
terrible
accident
on
the
birmingham
bridge
this
past
winter,
where
one
of
our
drivers
miraculously
walked
away,
but
it
could
have
very
easily
been
not
the
case,
but
with
the
gps
technology
we
were
able
to.
You
know,
look
at
that
from
a
claims
perspective
and
say:
hey
our
driver
wasn't
doing
anything
wrong.
K
All
another
driver's
fault
of
what
happened
here
and
so
we're
able
to
you
know
protect
them
in
a
lot
of
cases
when
certain
issues
come
up
or
you
know,
sometimes,
quite
honestly,
we
get
you
know
fraudulent
complaints
against
our
drivers,
where
maybe
they
have
struck
a
vehicle,
and
I
I
gotta
say
from
my
perspective,
our
drivers.
I
found
them
all
to
be.
K
You
know,
for
the
most
part,
very
honest
people
forthright
about
what
happened
out
on
the
street
and
we're
able
to
you
know,
combat
some
of
those
fraudulent
claims,
just
by
having
the
knowledge
that
the
driver
wasn't
even
in
the
area
when
the
resident
was
saying
that
they
struck
their
vehicle.
So
you
know
those.
O
Are
the
types
of
things
that
we
do?
I'm
sorry?
I
actually,
I
actually
know
of
an
incident
in
my
district,
where
somebody
was
claiming
that
the
driver
was
speeding
by
and
some
other
things
that
happened
and
when
they
went
back
and
reviewed
it
they
they
realized
that
the
driver
was
not
in
the
wrong,
so
it
actually
protected
the
driver
then
too,
but
I
also
think
those
cases
are.
O
They
don't
want
to
know
that
they're
parked
somewhere
not
doing
what
they
need
to
do,
and
I
know
that
that's
part
of
what
that
you
can
do
with
this,
but
it
also
makes
our
drivers
feel,
I
think,
a
lot
of
times
devalued
and
unappreciated
for
the
the
difficult
job
that
they
do
and
I
think
with
seeing
the
leadership
in
dpw
now,
where
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
haven't
come
up
through
the
ranks
who
haven't
done
the
job?
Who
don't
know
what
it's
like
to
do
these?
These?
O
You
know
very
intense
labor
jobs
and
working
long
shifts,
trying
to
get
the
streets
cleaned
with
old
equipment
and
and
on
and
hillsides
and
cars
parked
on
both
sides
who
don't
understand
what
they
think
that
sometimes
you
just
may
need
a
break.
O
K
Understood
and
look
the
driving
is
in
the
snow
event
is
an
extremely
difficult
job.
That's
why
you
know.
In
my
first
conversations
when
I
became
acting
director,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
drivers
understood
and
their
supervisors
understood
that
when
it
comes
to
plowing
the
route-
and
it
comes
to
the
technology,
you
know
the
technology
is
there
as
an
assist
it's
to
help
the
driver
make
sure
they're
getting
all
the
streets
that
they
need
to
get.
K
You
know
when
it's
dark
when
it's
the
middle
of
the
night
when
the
street
signs
are
covered
in
you
have
a
piece
of
paper
that
you
have
to
refer
to.
It
gets
extremely
difficult
and
I
would
think
that
the
technology
would
help
them
do
that.
Do
I
expect
them?
Do
we
have
an
expectation
that
they're
going
to
drive
every
route
as
assigned
perfectly
in
the
order?
It
is
no.
I
don't
because
to
the
point
our
drivers
are
very
experienced.
K
They
absolutely
100
need
to
be
safe
when
they're
on
the
road,
and
so
I
would
expect
them
if
they
encounter
a
situation
where
the
computer
or
the
technology
is
telling
them
to
do
something
that
is
not
safe,
that
I
just
want
to
reinforce
to
to
you
and
all
of
them
out
there
now
that
that
is
absolutely
not
the
case
of
the
technology.
That's
not
the
intent.
K
The
intent
is
to
assist
them
in
their
duties
to
help
them
be
making
sure
that
they
cover
everything
that
they
need
to
cover
and
to
help
us.
We
can't
have
eyes
everywhere.
I
only
have
a
limited
number
of
supervisory
staff,
so
it
does
help
us
give
an
additional
set
of
eyes
to
you
know
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
things
aren't
happening
in
an
appropriate
way.
O
And
I
would
also
say
I'm
going
to
just
add
my
last
comments.
I'd
also
like
to
see
the
money
going
into
equipment
and
I've
been
having
those
conversations
with
director
paulus
as
well,
so
I'm
going
to
abstain
today
and
finish
these
conversations
over
the
week.
Thank
you.
H
376,
so
I
suppose
that's
you
know
what
roughly
190
000
each
year
and
then
the
new
cost
not
to
exceed
2
million
116
208
dollars.
So
I
also
I
I'm
embarrassed
to
say
I
haven't
really
stopped
to
think
about
that.
Is
that
costing
us
a
million
a
year
for
just
snow,
plow
tracking
or
what
is
housed
in
this
contract
and
or
do
I
have
the
numbers
next
up.
I
This
legislation
is
to
amend
the
original
contract
that
had
one
time
cost
for
the
implementation
and
install
of
the
equipment.
So
what
we
are
proposing
today
is
to
extend
the
contract
for
another
two
years
and
you
were
correct
with
that
yearly
amount
of
190
000
in
each
of
the
last
two
years,
so
2021
and
2022.
I
that
larger
not
to
exceed
amount.
We
essentially
add
the
384
000
on
top
of
the
original
contracted
amount
that
already
covered
the
install
of
the
equipment.
Three
years
ago,
when
we
entered
into
the
original
contract.
I
Software
allocation
for
the
the
gps
and
route,
optimization
and
monthly
recurring
costs,
is
190
000
each
year
for
the
next.
H
H
So
they
were
upfront,
like
you,
said,
equipment
and
installation
costs
kind
of
like
when
you're
getting
cable
at
your
house,
and
you
make
you
pay
for
the
box
and
the
router
and
the
service
fee
and
the
labor
and
all
that.
But
then,
after
that,
you
have
your
monthly
service,
got
it
exactly.
Okay,
that
sounds
a
lot
better
than
a
millennial
here.
So
I'm
glad
I
asked
thank
you
glad.
L
Yes
see
councilwoman
gross,
you
don't
need
to
know
trucks,
you
just
need
to
know
figures,
and
you
certainly
know
that
so,
but
but
let
me
just
break
it
down
chris.
If
I
could,
you
know
so
the
tracking
system,
what
what
are
we
tracking?
It's
assault,
distribution
and
gps?
I
know
of
those
two.
What
else
is
involved
there?
Is
that
just
the
two
components.
K
I
mean
those
are
the
two
basic
components:
I'll
say
that
they'll,
you
know
track
reporting,
making
sure
that
the
devices
are
reporting
back
to
the
gps.
They
will
track
the
runtime.
They
will
track
the
vehicle,
speed
vehicle
direction,
heading
kind
of
all
those
things
that
come
with
you
know
the
that's
what's
known
as
the
abl,
the
automatic
vehicle
locator
is
capable
of
kind
of
performing
all
that
as
well.
As
you
know,
tracking
up
to
24
hours
of
where
the
vehicle
has
been.
L
See
I'm
all
you
know,
I
know
it's
a
data
driven
world
these
days
and
I
know
data
can
be
very
useful
and
it
could
save
us
money
as
well.
But
I
again
I'd
point
back
to
data
can
sometimes
be
costly
and
you
know
inefficient.
You
know
I
just
find
the
tracking
system
I'd
much
rather
have
new
vehicles
out
there
and
supervisors
and
going
over
the
routes
to
make
sure
that
drivers
are.
You
know,
know
where
they're
at
where
we
don't
have
to
depend
on
gps.
L
I
know
many
of
the
drivers
personally
and
they
know
every
alley.
They
know
every
street,
they
don't
they
don't
need
a
gps,
you
know,
and
they
know
probably
a
better
route
than
gps
gives
them.
I
know
many
cases
chris,
you
know
gps
sends
them
to
a
street
but
they're
bypassing
you
know
and
they're
backtracking
to
go
back
to
the
streets
that
the
gps,
you
know
direct,
didn't
direct
them
to
so,
whether
that
be
territory,
roads
or
main
roads.
L
I
know
that
all
factors
in,
but
you
know
I
hate-
to
see
a
driver,
plow
a
street
and
then
pass
two
side
streets
that
desperately
need
plows
to
go.
You
know
to
our
you
know
our.
I
guess
our
system
is
to
you
know
doing
the
main
roads
first,
so
I
just
would
love
to
sit
down
and
rethink
the
whole
thing,
at
least
for
the
fourth
public
works
division,
but
I
don't
mean
to
be
critical
about
it.
L
K
No,
I
can
certainly,
I
can
certainly
understand
your
concerns,
councilman,
and
I
think
that
you
know,
as
I
looked
at
the
new
optimized
routes
and
the
in
the
version
two
that's
being
built,
you
know,
based
on
the
previous
guidance
that
we
gave
the
vendor.
The
idea
is
to
get
away
from
that
doing
that
primary
secondary
tertiary
and
really
get
into
the
neighborhoods
more.
K
K
You
know
people
go
out
for
health
reasons
or
a
variety
of
other
important
reasons,
and
so
sometimes,
when
there's
a
manpower
issue
for
your
district,
you
know
we
have
to
mobilize
labor
from
another
division
to
assist
you
and
we're
happy
to
do
that
happy
to
help
out
having
that
technology
in
the
in
the
vehicle
for
a
driver
that
might
not
necessarily
be
familiar
with
your
district
as
an
assist
to
help
out
our
citizens
very
critical,
absolutely
critical!
K
I
mean
you
know
we're
driving
around
your
district,
some
of
the
challenging
streets
that
you
have
with
the
terrain,
with
the
sharp
turns
it's
not
easy
to
navigate
for
an
experienced
driver,
that's
familiar
with
the
terrain,
but
take
an
experienced
driver
who
might
not
be
familiar
with
the
neighborhood
and
it
gets
really
challenging
for
them,
particularly
at
night,
and
so
you
know
the
technology
does
enable
us
to
it
does
enable
us
to
you
know,
do
some
resource
allocation
when
necessary
to
kind
of
balance
the
workforce
out
for
the
entire
city.
L
Yeah,
and
perhaps
chris
you
know,
I
need
to
learn
more
about
the
tracking
system,
myself,
what
the
advantages
are
and
what
they're
not
just
going
through
this
past
winter.
You
know
for
me
it
was
a
disadvantage
because,
hours
a
day
every
day
during
the
snowstorms,
I
was
explaining
why
they're
not
showing
up
on
the
track
or
why
they're
not
putting
enough
salt
down?
Where
are
they
so
but
you're?
Talking
about
what
you
were
saying,
you
know
re
thinking
how
we
plow
our
streets.
L
How
we
do
the
streets
to
me.
I
almost
would
rather
resort
back
to
plowing
secondary
streets.
First,
you
know
the
main
roads
are
heavily
traveled
that
helps
keep
the
snow
off
of
them.
I
mean
always.
We
need
to
keep
the
emergency
routes
clear.
I
understand
that,
but
you
know
the
the
alleys,
the
small
streets
where
people
need
to
get
out
onto
the
roads
in
order
to
make
it
to
work.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
just
as
important.
I
I
hate
to
categorize
them.
L
As
you
know,
a
secondary
street
that
gets
hit
three
days
later.
It's
they're
all
important.
You
know
they
all
have
homes
on
them
and
people
need
to
get
to
work
so
so
yeah,
I
don't.
I
just
I'm
uncomfortable
voting
for
it
today.
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
throw
the
thing
out
by
any
means.
L
Maybe
I
need
to
learn
more
about
it.
On
my
end
as
to
what
the
tracking
system
advantages
are
and
sit
down,
and
have
that
conversation
with
you
before
the
snow
flies
again.
M
Just
briefly,
I'm
in
support
and
and
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
the
legislation
today,
but
I
do
have
a
quick
question.
Slash
comment:
am
I
oversimplifying
to
say
that
our
our
street
prioritization
plan
is
still
reactionary
to
the
snowmageddon
event?
That
was
everything
changed
after
snow
again,
and
we
did
this
huge.
M
I
see
councilman
gross
smiling,
but
I
think
I
I
I
don't
think
I'm
that
far
off
base
that
that
it
was
such
a
devastating
event
and-
and
I
and
rightfully
so
you
know
there
were
major
major
changes
made
to
how
we
prioritize
roads
for
plow,
remove
or
for
snow
removal
and
as
councilman
coghill
said
you
know,
always
emergency
routes
are
going
to
be
to
be
first
and
those
are
those
are
non-negotiable,
but
perhaps
it
is
time,
ten
years
after
the
the
event
to
re-examine
exactly
what
our
commitment
is
in
terms
of
prioritization
of
our
you
know
our
primary
secondary
and
tertiary
streets
just
to
comment.
M
That's
that's
all
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
out
there
and
again.
I
will
support
today.
A
Thank
you
any
further
members,
if
not
quick
question
for
you,
which
is
sort
of
related
to
what
councilman
krauss
mentioned
prior
to
next
winner
director
hornstein,
would
we
be
able
to
sort
of
see
the
anticipated
routes
that
are
being
put
together
to
then
be
able
to
weigh
in
and
provide
comment.
K
Yeah,
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that.
I
mean
we're
still
in
the
process
of
of
finalizing
some
of
those,
but
I
would
happily
share
those
with
council.
A
J
J
A
And
one
abstention,
the
bill
is
recommended.
Thank
you
all
that
takes
us
to
our
human
resources
committee
chaired
by
councilman
krauss.
First,
one
supplemental
paper
bill
1369.
O
A
E
1345
resolution
authorizing
the
city's
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
enter
into
relevant
agreements
with
sauna
troll
for
security
through
video
monitoring
and
alarm
systems.
Alarm,
along
with
repairs
at
parks
and
recreation
facilities
and
set
negotiated
prices
to
be
determined
over
a
term
of
three
years.
H
Mr
chair,
sorry,
I
was
raising
my
hand.
Sorry
thank
you,
hi
director,
I'm
happy
to
see
you
here.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
chance
to
talk
about
the
deployment
of
the
camera
systems,
I'm
assuming
it
says,
video
monitoring
and
alarm
systems,
and
and
if
you're
going
to
be
expanding
the
systems
and
just
to
remind
you
that
we
were
trying
to
get
cameras
at
shulo
park
that
section,
especially
under
the
bloomfield
bridge,
where
we'd
have
repeated
requests
for
monitoring.
So
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
this
bill?
Introduce
yourself!
N
The
director
of
parks
and
recreation
nice
to
see
you
all
yes,
councilwoman
this
song,
the
science
troll
system-
is
a
legacy
system.
It
predates
me
it's
the
vendor.
N
Provided
some
burglary
alarm
systems
as
well
as
some
cameras
at
some
of
our
facilities
by
no
means
are,
are
all
parks
and
recreation
program
spaces
equipped,
as
perhaps
they
should
be,
some
have
cameras.
Some
don't
some
have
burger
alarm.
O
N
Tied
to
dvr
type
systems
that
are
inadequate,
but
it's
long
been
the
case
that
sauna
troll
is
kind
of
that
sole
source
provider
that
is
providing
some
level
of
service
which
we
can
afford.
I
think
we
expend
about
19,
000
or
so
annually
approximately
to
support
the
current
systems,
but
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
make
a
decision
to
move
from
more
of
an
analog
based
system
to
a
digital
system.
N
To
support
kind
of
a
larger
picture
is
recent
conversations
with
public
safety
and
actor
acting.
N
An
inp
as
we
work
to
create
a
proposal
of
sorts
as
to
what
this
could
look
like
and
perhaps
should
look
like
more
universally
more
holistically
as
a
real
camera
system
that
is
probably
not
sonic,
troll
supported
could
be,
I
guess,
might
look
like
to
have
at
other
facilities.
We
all
know
that
we
all,
I
think
we
most
of
us,
know
that
there
is
a
need
to
have
some
additional
cameras
in
a
lot
of
in
a
lot
of
places,
whether
they're
protecting
city
assets
or
looking
after
kind
of
making
sure
that
those
folks.
N
D
N
That
is
due
to
what
I
understand
is:
there's
not
a
lot
of
there's,
not
the
the
proper
bandwidth
and
connectivity
speed
at
a
lot
of
the
locations.
So,
even
if
we
were
to
have
money
to
secure
the
equipment,
there
has
to
be
a
lot
of
back
end
inp
work
that
has
to
be
done
first,
so
this
is
basically
to
maintain
what
the
the
department
has
had
in
place
for
some
time.
There
are
a
couple
of
spaces
facilities
that
we
have
to
look
at
this
year,
probably
which
may
cost
us
another
few
hundred
dollars.
N
It
shouldn't
be
that
much
to
upgrade
working
with
the
sauna
troll
folks,
folks
right
now,
but
this
is
kind
of
a
band-aid
approach
to
hopefully
something
that
there
can
be
a
a
larger,
more
systematic
view
as
to
how
this
can
be
deployed
throughout
the
city.
I
know
that
chris
has
mentioned.
There's
a
there's.
N
N
H
H
I
think
assessment
of
the
three
to
four
hundred
city
facilities
from
everything
from
dugouts
to
you,
know,
city,
county
building
and
things
like
that
and
when
you,
when
you
call
it
burglar
alarms,
I
mean
that's
really
changed
for
a
lot
of
people
even
at
our
homes,
right
where
we
don't
necessarily
see
the
same
level
of
your
old
kind
of
like
wires
running
to
a
windowsill
to
see
if
it's
opened
or
I
mean-
is
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
well.
N
H
N
It's
working
where
we
have
it
it
works.
There
are
like
I
said:
there
are
upgrades
that
are
needed.
There
are
system
glitches
and
there
are
improvements
of
the
infrastructure
that
need
to
happen,
but
where
we
have
these
things,
we
feel
like
we
need
them
in
working
alongside
of
being
shack
and
public
safety
and
getting
some
understanding
of
what
their
shot
spotters
do
where
they
are
at.
There's
a
need
for
for
these
in
areas
where
we
don't
have
them.
We've
had
some
issues
recently
at
up
at
arlington
spray
park.
N
We've
had
issues
at
a
brookline
rec
center
and
while
we're
still
in
a
covet
holding
pattern
relative
to
having
full
programming
at
our
record
senior
centers
we're.
N
As
much
as
we
usually
are,
and
we've
seen
a
spike
in
these
kind
of
activities-
okay,
that's
you
know
it's
it's.
It's
draining
public
works
to
respond,
it's
training,
others
to
and
there's
been
some
really.
You
know
some
some
messaging
out
there
that
none
of
us
in
the
community
would
want
to
see.
So
I
think
if
we
are
able
to
work
towards
solidifying
some
capital.
N
Could
look
like
that
might
be
supported
on
the
back
end
by
public
safety
and
how
they're
able
to
manage
that
so
we're
kind
of
in
the
preliminary
stages
of
those
conversations,
but
right
now
what
we
have
is
what
we
need
to
have.
We
just
don't
have
all
that
we
need
to
have
if
that
makes
sense,
sure.
H
Absolutely
does
and
you're
reminding
me
of
a
couple
of
things
that
director
interim
director,
norman
from
imp,
had
a
fantastic
presentation
and
budget
season
with
all
of
the
kind
of
hardware
and
with
the
kind
of
great
graphics
of
kind
of
what
levels
of
investment
are
needed
and
the
kind
of
sequencing
of
the
investments
to
get
us
there,
and
I
was
very
impressed
that
so
that
there
has
been
some
assessment
of
you
know.
You
can't
put
some
places.
H
H
On
the
other
hand,
I
know
there
are
constituents
out
there
who
would
not
want
cameras,
some
places
right
and
have
concerns
about
technology
and
modern
monitoring,
and
so
there's
a
delicate
there's,
a
public
conversation
that
needs
to
be
had
about
deploying
these
things
in
other
places.
H
But
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
facilities
are
are
secure
and
I
just
have
to
to
say
you
reminded
me
of
walking
through
a
facility
with
director
hornstein
now
you
know
more
than
a
year
ago,
because
we've
been
in
lockdown
for
a
year
so
the
year
before
that,
where
we
opened
a
closet
in
an
empty
city
building
in
the
strip
district,
and
we
were
all
surprised-
we
really
didn't
know
that
it
was
going
to
be.
It
was
full
of
wires.
H
It
was
it
was
like.
Were
you
there?
I
don't
think
you
were
there.
It
was
full
of
wires,
like
you
probably
couldn't,
have
put
your
hands
around
all
of
it
or
arms
around
all
of
it,
and
they
were
all
kind
of
like
telephone
wires,
but
it
was
like
part
of
what
is
our
current
backbone.
Yes,
think,
like
early
dial-up
internet
connections,
if
you're
old
enough
to
remember
them
and
that's
deeply
concerning
right
and
so
I'm
sure,
that's
kind
of
incorporated
into
dr
newman
writes
norman.
H
Sorry,
it's
part
of
what
is
a
capital
budget
project
that
we.
H
So
yeah
there
are
some
fragile
parts
to
our
system
that
really
limit
how
effective
technology
you
know
kind
of
software
investments
would
be
until
we
have
the
hardware
investments.
So,
okay,
I'm
supportive
of
this.
This
is
a
small
dollar
amount.
It's
it's
frustrating
that
it's
kind
of
1980s
1990s
status
quo,
but
thank
you
for
your
information.
That's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
E
Bill
1348
resolution
authorizing
the
intergovernmental
corporation
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
department
of
transportation
to
establish
ownership
and
maintenance
responsibility
for
a
flood
early
warning
system
within
the
right-of-ways
of
washington,
boulevard,
allegheny,
river
boulevard,
butler
street
highland
drive
and
further
amending
resolution.
Number
797
effective
december
28
2017
as
amended
resolution
adopting
and
approving
the
2018
capital
budget
and
the
2018
cdbg
program.
The
2018
through
2023
capital
improvement
program
by
increasing
flood
control
projects
by
170.
M
H
Thank
you
I.
This
is
back
to
our
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago
when
we
had
the
nominees
for
the
board
members
and
we
were
informed
by
the
our
law
department,
after
questioning
our
how
it
comported
with
the
state
municipal
authorities,
act
specifically
section
5605,
and
so
it
looks
like
within
days
of
that
discussion
back
in
march,
the
pwsa
did
do
a
board
resolution.
H
Says
that
the
authority
is
to
take
the
exact
same
language
that
they
approve
as
a
board
and
put
that
in
forward
in
front
of
the
governing
body,
and
so
that
is
the
language
we
see
here,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
things
up
on
my
screen
and
I'm
going
to
acknowledge
that.
H
I
think
I
am
the
board
member
who
are
the
council
member
here
who
always
says
this,
but
I
have
in
front
of
me
just
side
by
side,
the
pwsa
language
and
the
language
that's
in
front
of
us,
so
I'm
gonna
if
you'll
indulge
me
for
just
a
second.
I
think
I
can
get
these
both
up
at
the
same
time
shift
to
hold
multiple
windows.
H
It's
not
working
for
me,
so
I'll
just
read
them.
Instead,
let
me
have
a
get
out
of
this.
It
says,
can
you
still
see
me,
are
you
saying
screens.
A
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
me
close
that
it
simply
says
at
the
pwsa
board
meeting
now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority
that,
in
accordance
with
the
act,
the
authority
hereby
proposes
and
approves
an
amendment
of
its
articles
of
incorporation
by
adding
a
section
there
to
there
too,
to
read
as
follows:
quote
the
board
of
the
authority
shall
consist
of
a
number
of
members
not
less
than
five,
and
not
more
than
nine
section.
Two.
H
The
board
of
the
authority
hereby
directs
that
this
amendment
be
submitted
to
the
governing
authorities
of
the
city
which
shall
adopt
or
reject
such
amendment
by
resolution
or
ordinance
section
3.
The
proper
officers
of
the
authority
are
hereby
authorized
to
execute
this
resolution
and
to
take
all
such
other
action
as
may
be
required
or
which
they
may
deem
appropriate
to
amend
the
articles
of
incorporation
consistent
with
this
resolution,
and
it
was
adopted
on
the
26th
of
march
this
year
and
then
so,
if
you
look
at
our
legislative
language,
I
won't
read
it
again.
H
It
also
further
requires
that
the
authority,
I
think,
do
then
an
advertisement
after
we
either
accept
or
reject,
and
if
we
accept
they
have
to
advertise
it
somehow,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
and
then
prove
that
they
advertised
it
and
then
send
that
those
records
and
our
approval
to
the
department
of
state
which
is
secretary
of
the
commonwealth.
Here
in
pennsylvania,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
concerns
about
expanding
the
size
of
the
board.
H
We
have
basically
rejected
all
of
the
recommendations.
You
know
we
did
not
create
an
a
private
corporation,
non-profit
trust,
to
house
the
authority.
We
as
a
body
did
not
entertain
takeover
attempts
or
purchase
attempts.
H
We
as
a
body
and
the
pwca
board,
and
I
voted
on
committing
to
keep
the
authority
public
in
both
assets
and
in
operations
and
a
reminder
that
privatization
sometimes
means
selling
the
hard
assets,
but
also
sometimes
privatization
means
giving
a
operating
lease
so
that
the
control
of
a
public
asset
is
in
private
hands
such
as
was
the
case
under
the
violia
contract,
where
there
were
direct
violate
employees
who
were
in
the
top
of
the
organizational
chart
at
pwsa
back
in
2012
2013
2014
before
we
terminated
the
lease
and
then
sued
them,
and
so
the
notion
of
expanding
the
board
to
include
more
citizen
input
is,
I
think,
part
and
parcel
of
those
other
recommendations
that
there
be.
H
Basically,
there
was
something
about
it
being
a
public
authority
under
city
council
control
that
had
somehow
led
it
astray,
and
I
object
to
that
kind
of
story
categorically,
absolutely
having
served
as
an
elected
official
now
for
seven
or
so
years,
and
having
served
with
you
all
and
having
seen
the
city
write
itself
in
terms
of
its
budget
problems
and
seeing
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority,
write
itself
of
its
budget
problems
and
correct
the
mistakes
that
were
made
by
a
private
corporation.
H
It
was
done
with
public
input
at
the
public
table
at
this
table.
The
city
council
table,
even
though
we're
only
here
digitally,
and
it
was
done
by
us
being
elected
by
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh
and
hearing
from
them,
as
elected
officials,
the
way
no
board
member
of
a
private
corporation
hears.
I
don't
get
calls
from
citizens
about
the
library
I
don't
get
calls
from
citizens
about
the
zoo.
H
Oh,
that
was
that
was
a
cute
cute
move,
but
guess
what
they
heard
it
and
we
also
had
to
invite
them
into
numerous
public
hearings
and
post
agendas.
In
order
to
get
the
message
through
that,
there
was
clearly
something
wrong,
and
this
all
led
up
to
to
to
our
joint
credit.
H
H
H
That
is
exactly
what
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
is
here
to
do,
and
so
that
falls
on
us
and
we
shouldn't
be
kind
of
just
delegating
that
somehow
and
furthermore,
I
am
not
sure-
and
I've
asked
our
secretary
of
the
commonwealth's
office
if
there
are
other
authorities
in
the
state
of
pennsylvania
with
over
seven
members-
I
just
don't
know,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
anyone
here
for
the
administration
who
knows
kind
of
like
how
many
you
know,
authorities
are
there
across
the
commonwealth
and
are
they
all
seven
members
or
under
or
is
there
some
great
range
and
so
that
my
concerns
are
somehow
misplaced,
and
so,
if
anyone
is,
I
don't
know
who's
on
the
line.
H
H
You
know
I
assume,
there's
somebody
who,
because
it
does
say
the
mayor
of
the
city,
solicitor
and
city
clerk-
are
hereby
authorized
to
check
for
the
steps.
But
I
don't
that's.
Not
the
city
clerk
who
sent
the
bill
over.
H
So
I'll
wait,
but
just
to
summarize,
I
think
the
suggestion
you
know
came
from
the
panel
and
is
part
and
parcel
of
the
kind
of
recommendations
to
privatize,
and
so
I
don't.
I
don't
see
any
good
reason
to
to
do
that,
because
we
have
rejected
most
of
the
other
recommendations
there.
I
do
understand
the
spirit
of
it
and
I
certainly
don't
object
to
any
of
the
people
that
we
interviewed.
I
did
go
to
the
interview
and
they
are
all
people.
H
I
know
I
like
I
respect
they
have
great
backgrounds,
but
I
do
have
concerns
that
moving
into
a
larger
board
is
just
a
way
of
kind
of
deflecting
responsibility
away
from
the
city
council
table,
and
I
I
don't
support
that
spirit
and
so
the
moving
any
one
of
our
authorities
into
being
more
like
one
of
the
big
non-profit
boards.
H
I
have
personally
been
turned
away
at
trying
to
get
into
a
non-profit
board
meeting.
I
know
that
citizens
are
not
invited
into
non-profit
board
meetings,
and
so
that's
spirit
right
of
that,
even
though
the
the
authority
would
remain
a
public
authority.
That
spirit
of
kind
of
putting
private
citizens
in
charge
is
not
it's
not
something.
I
support
I'll.
Stop
there,
mr
chair.
If
we
can
try
to
get
someone
from
the
administration,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Councilwoman.
E
Are
you
asking
who
crafted
the
legislation?
It
was
crafted
by
a
solicitor
hilton
and
so
her
her
staff.
There
is
someone
anything
about
it
online.
H
E
H
You,
mr
barland,
we
all
know
how
that
is.
So
I
have
this
basic
question,
which
is
that
do
you
know
if
there
is
an
authority
in
the
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
with
more
than
seven
members.
G
H
Can
all
read
the
municipal
authorities
act
and
we
see
that
it
says
that
it
must
be
at
least
five,
but
I
am
curious
whether
in
reality
and
but
you
know
in
fact,
are
there
any
with
more
than
seven,
and
I
have
asked
that
question
to
the
secretary
of
the
commonwealth's
office
and
I
been
harassing
them
this
week
and
doing
follow-up
phone
calls,
and
I
haven't
gotten
the
answer
yet.
But
I
was
just
curious
whether
you
knew
so.
That's
that's
my
main
concern.
G
G
E
Ago,
yes,
the
nominees
are
submitted
by
the
mayor's
office.
I
think
hurricane
the
mayor's
office
submit
all
nominees
so
but
the
the
legislation,
I'm
understanding
from
the
mayor's
office,
was
crafted
by
the
solicitor.
H
I
I
don't
want
to
put
councilman
strasburger
on
the
spot,
but
perhaps
we
have
to
ask
this
question
then,
like
whose
idea
is
this
really
like
who's
advocating
for
the
increased
size
of
the
board
is
probably
a
fair
question
for
the
public
to
know,
because
it's
not
normal
and
it's
not.
It
is
new
and
in
the
you
know,
30
some
years
of
us
having
so
many
different
authorities
where
we
kind
of
spun
off
city
departments
into
authorities.
You
know
this
hasn't
happened,
so
it
feels
like
it's.
H
It's
not
something
we
rubber
stamp
here
and
there
should
be
some
some
ownership
of
it.
H
J
So
councilwoman
both
brought
up
a
number
of
items
just
quickly
before
I
forget
that
the
process
from
from
here
is
that
if
we
were
to
approve
this
and
it
were
to
be
signed
by
the
mayor,
then
it
would
need
to
be
advertised,
and
you
had
questions
about
sorry.
Councilwoman
gross
had
questions
about
where
it
would
be
advertised.
J
On
the
question
of
where
this
originated,
I
would
say
that
it's
been
a
conversation
point
with
the
executive
committee
of
the
pwsa
board,
as
well
as
board
members
themselves,
as
the
pwsa
board
has
welcomed
several
new
board
members.
Over
the
last
year
and
a
half,
there
have
been
questions
about
diversity
of
all
sorts,
so
ethnic,
gender
geographic
diversity
and
an
acknowledgement
that,
with
seven
members,
it's
it's
challenging,
especially
with
geographic
diversity.
J
When
you
know
the
question,
when
board
members
com
candidates
come
to
the
table
and
every
council
member
says
well,
where
do
you
live?
How
come?
I
don't
have
representation
of
my
part
of
town,
an
acknowledgment
that
having
nine
board
members
would
not
only
allow
for
more
diversity
and
more
and
a
diversity
and
experience
too
and
a
background,
but
would
allow
for
more
people
from
different
parts
of
town
in
the
service
area
and
also
to
have
that
citizen
representation.
J
So
a
lot
of
concerns
we
hear
from
council
members
during
interviews
also
is
well.
I
don't
feel
like
you're
a
real
person,
or
are
you
really
experiencing
the
things
that
the
people
who
are
calling
our
offices
are
experiencing,
and
I
would
make
the
case
that,
just
because
this
would
be
an
expansion
of
the
board
members
to
the
same
level.
J
That
say,
city
council
has
that
the
scenario
that
played
out
a
few
years
ago,
council
with
councilman
gross's
leadership,
on
both
the
board
and
on
council
to
when
you
know,
council
members
are
receiving
huge
amounts
of
of
concerned
calls
and
emails.
I
would
argue
that
that
process
could
still
take
place.
That's
that
are
the
process
of
advocacy
from
council
to
the
board
would
still
happen,
would
still
be
necessary
and
will
always
be
a
part
of
the
strategy.
J
That's
needed,
regardless
of
how
many
sort
of
real
citizens
you
put
on
any
board.
There's
always
going
to
be
the
necessity
for
city
council
to
advocate
as
necessary
to
say
we're
the
ones
getting
the
calls
please
listen
to
us,
and
I
would
hope
that
any
future
council
member
who's
serving
on
the
board
would
help
play
that
goal.
Certainly
I'm
committed
to
doing
so
in
my
career
role.
J
If
I
hear
from
all
of
you
that
there's
an
issue
as
I
currently
do,
whether
it's
your
part
of
town
or
whether
it's
a
more
systemic
issue,
I'm
certainly
going
to
be
advocating
on
your
behalf
at
the
board
and
with
with
leadership.
So
I
don't
think
that
changes
with
in
reality.
I
understand
the
spirit
of
it,
but
in
reality
I
don't
think
that
dynamic
changes.
J
J
I
I'm
not
sure
of
whether
councilwoman
gross's
question
was
about
the
number
of
people
who
serve
on
an
authority
anywhere
in
the
state
or
whether
it
was
a
public
utility
overseeing
authority.
But
just
in
looking
at
the
county
poor
authority
website,
it
looks
as
if
they
have
11
members,
so
there
certainly
is
precedent
for
some
authorities
to
have
more
than
seven.
But
again
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
a
question
more
geared
toward
public
utility
governed
minorities,
of
which
I
think
the
pwsa
is
unique
in
that
position.
M
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
just
briefly,
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
this
today
I'll
reserve.
My
right
to
to,
perhaps
maybe
you
know,
consider
additional
information
before
tuesday
I
I
I.
I
believe
that
the
board
is
not
unruly
in
any
way.
M
I
think
nine
is
still
very
much
a
a
manageable
board
which,
as
councilwoman
strasberger
commented,
opens
up
the
opportunity
for
a
more
diverse
representation,
which
I
think
all
of
us
on
the
boards
that
we
serve
on
are
struggling
to
provide
for,
and
so
I
I
just
I
I
just
don't
see
the
board
becoming
unmanageable.
M
I
don't
see
it
becoming
too
big.
I
like
that
it
provides
for
opening
a
seat
for
a
broader
representation
and
a
more
diversified
board.
So
I
am
supporting
today
reserve
my
right
to
perhaps
reconsider,
but
I
don't
see
much
that
would
change
my
mind.
Might
broaden
my
perspective.
I
hope,
but
I'm
happy
to
vote
and
support
today.
Thank
you.
C
H
H
We
all
probably
serve
on
boards
that
are
just
mainly
private
citizens,
but
we
serve
that
because
we
are
public
officials,
most
of
us
right.
There
may
be
some
boards
that
we
served
on
before
we
were
council
members.
H
I
served
on
the
board
of
a
pittsburgh
history
and
landmarks
foundation,
subsidiary
called
the
landmarks
corporation
and
it
excludes
public
officials.
So
when
I
got
elected,
they
had
to
ask
me
to
leave
that
board.
So
bylaws
are
written
in
different
ways
for
sure
again,
there
are.
There
are
private
corporation
boards
that
specifically
exclude
public
officials
and
there
are
private
corporation
boards
that
specifically
include
public
officials,
but
we're
not
talking
about
a
private
corporation
here.
This
is
the
municipal
authority
and
it
is
supposed
to
have
representation
from
public
officials.
H
What
changes
is
the
strength
of
your
voice
on
that
board
as
the
public
official
I'm
actually
doubly
concerned
by
the
increase
in
the
size
of
the
board,
as
well
as
what
I
don't
see,
which
is,
I
don't
see
the
city's
budget
or
finance
director
or
treasurer
on
the
board.
H
So
I
believe
it
I
it
wasn't
in
this
mayoral
administration,
we
kind
of
split
the
budget
and
finance
directors,
if
I
recall
them
early
in
my
tenure
and
so
and
there's
also
for
a
while,
though
then
we
had
a
combined
treasurer
and
finance
director,
so
that
is
kind
of
three
different
roles
in
the
city
government
that
now
are
held
by
three
different
people
and
they
haven't
been
held
by
three
different
people
in
the
past
and
not
one
of
them
is
on
the
board,
and
that
has
also
also
been
traditional
at
pwsa,
given,
especially
that
among
all
of
the
authorities,
there's
probably
the
most
public
debt,
and
especially
also
given
the
legacy
of
pwsa,
very
specifically
among
all
the
other
authorities
that
it
was
really
created,
almost
like
a
shell
corporation
to
off
book,
a
hundred
million
dollars
of
city
debt.
H
So
one
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
at
this
table
before
that.
I
didn't
know
until
I
served
in
this
role,
but
that
I
learned
was
that
when
it
was
created
in
1985,
it
was
really
created
with
like
no
personnel
no
operating
budget
and
on
its
very
first
day
it
had
a
hundred
million
dollars
in
debt,
because
the
I
guess,
the
city
council,
just
kind
of
like
moved
100
million
dollars
of
debt
off
of
the
city's
accounts
and
into
this
kind
of
shell
authority.
H
And
so
you
know
it
had.
It
started
with.
You
know
in
a
in
a
negative
position
from
the
very
beginning,
but
it
has
really
righted
itself
again
due
to.
I
think
that
many
many
many
hours
of
conversations
and
a
public
oversight
that
our
table
has
highlighted
and
kind
of
spotlighted
and
invited
the
public
into
the
conversation
to
to
strengthen
pwsa
and
really
to
strengthen
water
service
and
protect
the
citizens
investment.
H
I
always
like
to
remind
everyone
that
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh
paid
for
you
know
every
inch
of
that
water
system
and
it
is
rightfully
theirs,
and
so,
given
the
story
that
I
told
about
how
it
took
a
year,
even
with
council
members
voices
and
holding
post
agendas
and
public
hearings,
I
think
councilwoman
smith
called
for
the
one
about
billing.
She
was
certainly
the
first
member
who
stopped
me
in
the
hall
and
said
I'm
getting
complaints
about
water
bill's.
H
I
started
getting
calls
specifically
from
bloomfield
of
the
eight
neighborhoods
that
I
represent,
because
it
was
a
rolling
geographic
like
failure
and-
and
I
immediately
told
her
my
god-
I'm
suddenly
flooded
with
calls
about
billing,
because
even
though
I
was
one
voice
of
seven,
it
still
took
a
great
deal
of
heavy
lifting
and
persuasion
to
get
the
private
citizens
to
hear
what
I
was
hearing.
H
My
concern
is
that,
especially
with
the
removal
of
yet
another
public
official
right,
and
so
now,
we
have
one
council,
member,
there's
no
state
rep,
which
was
also
traditional
as
an
elected
and
there's
now
either
treasurer
or
finance
director.
But
then
we're
adding
these
private
citizens.
H
H
I
worry
about
what
I
see
is
the
dilution
of
kind
of
citizen
involvement
by
the
removal,
so
well
it's
being
portrayed
as
like
more
citizen
involvement,
because
we
are
elected
officials
who
people
you
know,
stop
on
the
street.
Stop
us
when
they're
in
you
know
our
own
front
yard,
stop
us
at
the
grocery
store
because
we're
we
are
fully
staffed
and
receive
calls
and
emails
every
day
of
the
year
that
we
really
are
the
we
are
the
elected
voices
of
our
citizens
and
that
those
board
members
are
not
so
that
is.
H
That
is
my
concern
and
I
will
not.
I
am
not
supportive
of
the
expansion
of
the
board.
I
have
concerns
about
it
and
I
would
like
to
have
more
facts
in
front
of
us
and
I
don't
think
that
we
should
take
this
vote
lightly.
I
would
rather
see
a
public
hearing
about
it
and
maybe
more
maybe
a
post
agenda.
Since
I
have
really
technical
questions
as
well
again
is
there
a
single?
H
There
must
be
hundreds
of
authorities
in
the
commonwealth
and
really
since
there's
so
many
hundreds
of
municipalities,
and
we
are
a
highly
incorporated
state
which
has
lots
and
lots
and
lots
of
local
governments
and
lots
of
small
local
governments.
I
suspect
that
there
are
a
great
number
of
authorities
and
I'm
curious-
maybe
they
all
have
like
30
members,
and
it
works
just
perfectly
fine,
or
maybe
they
don't,
and
this
is
something
that
is
not
heard
of,
and
I'm
curious
about
that,
and
I'm
also
curious
why
no
one
kind
of
knows
that
and
I've.
H
H
You
know
an
un,
you
know
how
abnormal
is
it,
but
that's
those
are
kind
of
my
outstanding
questions
and
I
am
not
supportive
today.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Sorry
any
discussion
any
further
discussion
from
members
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed.
O
A
A
Excuse
me
next
week,
council
will
hold
their
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings
on
tuesday
and
wednesday
april
13th
and
14th
at
10
a.m.
To
speak
at
these
meetings,
please
register
online
using
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
scheduled
webpage
by
9am
the
morning
of
the
meeting.
Also
next
week,
council
will
host
two
cable
cast
public
hearings.
The
first
hearing
is
on
tuesday
april
13th
at
1
30
pm
on
bill
1231,
as
it
relates
to
conditional
use
application
for
2142
white
men.
A
The
second
hearing
will
be
wednesday
april
14th
at
1
30
pm
on
bill,
1339
relative
to
a
petition
to
move
the
money
from
the
military
budget
and
invest
in
social
programs
and
human
needs
to
register
for
the
public
hearings.
Please
follow
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
scheduled
webpage
by
11.
30
am
the
day
of
the
hearing.
You
may
also
to
register
to
speak
at
any
of
these
meetings
by
calling
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138.