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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
a
wednesday
february,
17
2021.
council
will
continue
to
be
virtually
until
further
notice.
Meetings
can
now
be
viewed,
live
on
the
city
channel
and
live
stream
on
youtube.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comment,
and
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
Each
speaker
will
be
given
three
minutes.
A
B
B
B
If
you're
working
for
the
people,
then
it
is
the
people's
interests
that
you
should
be
working
on.
Behalf
of
so
I
would
employ
you
to
do
what
is
right,
because
we,
the
aboriginal
american
people,
have
been
here
in
the
america
since
time
and
memorial,
and
so
when
it
is
when
it
is
brought
to
your
attention,
as
it
has
been
over
the
past
eight
months,
that
there
is
an
injustice
that
remains
to
be
addressed.
B
B
B
B
C
Good
morning,
madam
president
and
members
of
the
pittsburgh
city
council,
my
name
is
joy
sato.
I
live
at
789
clarissa
street
in
pittsburgh
pa
and
I
am
absolutely
delighted
for
the
opportunity
to
say
a
few
encouraging
words
to
inspire
your
vote
on
the
city,
historic
landmark,
designation
for
mellon
park.
C
If
anyone
loves
melon
park,
I
do
I
worked
at
pittsburgh
center
for
the
arts
located
on
the
melon
park
campus
for
20
years.
As
a
director
of
special
events,
I
observed
every
upgrade
and
restoration
that
was
done
in
melon
park
during
those
years
from
beechwood
boulevard
to
the
rose
garden
from
the
whimsical
frog
to
the
fountain
in
terrace
in
the
wild
garden,
where
I
directed
hundreds
of
weddings
and
receptions,
managed
arts,
festivals,
music,
concerts,
school
programs,
hired
vendors
caterers,
djs
musicians
in
florist
and
launched
many
new
careers,
helping
photographers
create
portfolios
and
lgbtq
fundraisers.
C
My
most
treasured
accomplishments
were
acknowledged
by
mayor
peduto
for
developing
a
latin
community
in
pittsburgh
by
starting
flamenco
dance
classes
at
the
center.
I
also
brought
many
new
african-american
groups
to
the
center
during
my
tenure.
Many
of
them
thanked
me
for
providing
a
beautiful
space
to
have
events.
C
It
has
continued
to
transition
into
something
better
for
more
people,
since
it
was
established
in
1943
as
we
fight
with
faith
and
all
of
our
resources
to
free
ourselves
from
the
pain
of
covet
19.
We
realize
it
has
taken
so
much
from
us
by
no
fault
of
our
own.
We
also
realize
we
are
moving
into
a
new
era
and
which
we
must
all
become
change:
agents
on
some
level
in
the
coming
seasons.
C
It
is
the
authority
of
legislative
bodies
like
the
city
council
and
the
voices
of
the
people
that
will
steward
our
choices
of
things
to
let
go
of
and
things
that
we
must
preserve.
Yes,
I
mean
beautiful
world-class
melon
park
that
stands
firm
below
and
sits
high
on
a
hill
like
a
beacon
of
light
in
shadyside
pa.
C
I
believe
that
melon
park
is
an
important
historic
landscape,
that
it
is
deserving
of
protection
from
the
city
and
its
governments.
That
melon
park
will
be
a
cultural
benefit
to
our
grandchildren
and
great-grandchildren
and
contribute
greatly
to
their
future
and
the
legacy
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
And
I
thank
you.
A
E
E
D
F
A
Thank
you.
Our
first
order
of
business
today
will
actually
begin
with
invoices.
We
will
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
invoices.
G
B
A
In
the
opposed
invoices
are
approved,
that
takes
us
to
p
cards,
we
do
have
p
cards
for
approval
today,
need
a
motion
motion
to
approve.
A
I
Bill
1087
ordinance
supplement
in
the
pittsburgh
code
of
ordinances,
title
1,
administrative
article,
3
organization,
chapter
116,
department
of
public
safety
to
add
a
new
subsection
116.17
per
addition
on
the
execution
of
no
not
warrants
by
requiring
all
city
police
officers
when
executing
any
warrant
to
physically
knock
and
announce
the
president
of
police.
Before
entering
a
premise
princess.
A
Second,
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
in
the
opposed
they
will
be
held
two
weeks
just
to
give
members
a
quick
update.
I
did
receive
everything
from
law
this
week
I
had.
I
did
reach
out
to
mrs
fisher
yesterday.
Let
her
know
we
would
hold
first,
so
she
could
have
time
to
review
and
I
will
get
the
meeting
set
up
that
we
spoke
about
previously.
A
A
H
Please
question
councilman
cross
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
just
curious
if
anyone
from
public
works
might
be
here,
I
believe
the
reduction
from
the
project
is
for
the
street
scape,
but
it
is
then
invested
in
the
ramps
that
are
being
created
along
the
penndot
project,
and
I
just
want
to
make
certain
that
I'm
right
in
that.
H
K
K
Sure
the
project
is
complete.
The
streetscape
project,
which
this
was
the
street
lights,
that
we
installed
there's
still
the
work
that
is
ongoing
from
the
penndot
project
for
east
carson,
which
will
include
all
of
the
ramps
on
east
carson
street.
So
this
reprogramming
will
be
for
general
sidewalk
and
ramp
improvement
in
the
city.
So
it's
not.
It's
not
moving
it
specifically
for
reinvestment
in
east
carson
street,
because
the
east
carson
street
project
is
complete.
So
this
is
a
residual
budget
amount,
but
this
seems
like
the
the
best.
K
H
So,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
where
I'm
confused
is
in
the
wording
of
the
the
the
resolution
here
in
that
it
is
reducing
the
east
carson
street
penndot
project
by
64
000,
some
odd
dollars,
but
we're
not
we're
reducing
the
city's
streetscape
project,
which
included
the
trees
and
the
new
light
poles
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
this
is
not
money
from
the
penndot
project.
It's
from
our
city,
capital,
budget,
funded,
streetscape,.
K
E
K
No,
it
is,
the
wording
is
correct.
The
usage
is
confusing,
admittedly,
because
the
deliverable
name
that
we
added
to
this
initial
resolution
that
authorized
this.
This
is
the
this
is
the
correct
name
of
the
original
authorizing
resolution
for
this
money,
but
it
did
not
actually
go
to
a
penndot
project.
It
went
to
our
local
streetscape.
K
F
Director
ricks,
yes,
sir,
I
have
a
question
for
you.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
this.
I
just
don't
know
who
to
ask-
and
I
thought
about
this
before
that-
I
forgot
who,
where
the
and
this
was
later
in
the
agenda,
but
in
terms
of
the
sewage
facility
plans
which,
where
does
that
come
from
which
which
offices
that
come
from.
F
K
I
I
believe
they
actually
do
directly
come
to
you.
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
I
can
investigate
it
for
you.
They
do
not
come
through
domi.
However,.
F
L
There
is
a
very
long
circuitous
development
review
process
that
I'm
sure
you
have
heard
of
right.
Remember,
council
authorized
some
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
san
francisco
consulting
company
to
try
to
map
it
out
and
smooth
it
out
and
make
it
more
transparent
both
to
council
and
to
the
public
and
then
to
facilitate
the
online
permitting
process.
Etcetera.
Remember
all
that
they
interviewed
each
of
us
a
little
bit.
L
We
still
get
those
modules,
sometimes
bounce
back
and
forth,
because
they
have
to
be
approved
by
planning
and
pwsa
right.
That's
the
plan
for
the
project
has
to
be
approved
by
planning,
and
then
it
could
go
back
and
forth.
Pwsa
could
want
changes
and
then
the
developer
goes
back
to
planning
with
the
changes
and
you
go
back
and
forth,
but
then
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
L
After
getting
a
sewer
permit,
all
legislation,
including
the
sewer
models,
go
through
our
law
department,
so
we're
kind
of
making
sure
all
the
t's
are
crossed
and
the
eyes
are
dotted
and
that
it's
that's
my
understanding.
Today
again,
we
have
been
having
I've
had.
I
can
show
you
email
chains
and
again.
L
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
big
topic
that
we've
chipped
away
at
a
little
bit
over
the
last
six
or
seven
months,
and
I
my
most
recent
chain
was
unfortunately,
someone
in
the
law
department
suggested
that
I
should
be
in
charge
of
sewer
modules
and
that
my
staff
should
check
and
see
whether
or
not
people's
development
review
packets
were
complete,
which
I
think
is
a
bad
suggestion,
because
my
staff
are
not
the
administration.
F
F
L
F
M
E
E
H
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
councilman
coghill.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
had
the
opportunity
to
actually
use
the
10th
street
bridge.
I
use
it
on
a
regular
basis.
It
is
owned
by
allegheny
county
and
over
the
last
I
want
to
say
it
was
probably
a
two-year
period.
There
was
an
extensive
restoration
that
took
place
on
that
bridge
and
the
the
the
craftsmanship
and
the
quality
of
the
work
is
just
staggering.
H
It
is
so
well
done,
and
the
history
of
the
bridge
was
so
well
respected
that
you
would
swear
that
it
is
in
its
absolute
original
state
from
when
it
was
first
constructed,
and
I
I
made
a
point
to
call
over
to
the
county,
exec
and
and
let
him
know
just
what
a
magnificent
job
their
contractors
did
in
the
restoration
of
that
bridge,
and
you
know
we
have
three
more
very
similar
to
this.
H
That
are,
of
course,
on
the
north
side,
six,
seven
and
nine
councilman
wilson
right
six,
seven
and
nine
and
there's
such
an
asset
to
the
city
they're,
almost
as
if
they
are
pieces
of
public
art
in
the
way
that
they
were
designed
and
constructed,
and
this
this
contract.
H
I
guess
we're
pitching
in
our
our
part
here
as
to
you
know
what
our
portion
of
the
of
the
cost
that
bridge
is,
but
I
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
could
not
be
more
delighted
with
the
the
expertise
and
the
care
by
which
the
restoration
of
that
bridge
was
handled.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
Thank
you.
A
N
Just
just
brief
discussion:
councilman
hi,
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
this
department
is
keeping
a
council
informed
of
some
of
the
applications
that
are
coming
for
vending
before
them,
because
I
know
there's
somebody
who's
waiting
for
one
for
my
district
and
we're
eager
to
have
it
there,
but
it's
the
location
that
we
have
a
concern
with,
so
I
just
want
them
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaged
before
it
comes
to
council.
N
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
also
just
want
to
thank
duquesne
university
for
recognizing
the
historic,
significant
of
chuck
cooper
being
the
first
african-american
drafted
by
the
mba
and
also
playing
at
duquesne
university.
So
just
thanking
them
for
acknowledging
the
history
any
further
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
bill
is
recommended
that
takes
us
to
our
human
resources
committee
chaired
by
councilman
krauss
first
deferred
paper
only
deferred
paper
bill
1118.
I
Bill
1118
coordinates
amended
the
pittsburgh
city,
cold,
title
600,
article
5
discrimination,
chapter,
651,
definitions,
chapter
6,
5305
powers
in
duties,
chapter
659,
unlawful
practices,
unlawful
important
employment
practices,
unlawful
housing
practices
and
unlawful
public
accommodation
practices
to
clarify
and
add
language
related
to
discrimination
based
on
hairstyle
and
protective
and
cultural
hair.
Textures
and
hairstyles.
A
A
Thank
you
any
councilwoman
gross.
L
Yes,
thank
you.
I
am
still
I
said
last
week
that
I
was
happy
to
hold
for
a
week
because
I
was,
I
didn't
think
I
understood
at
that
time.
Kind
of
it
felt
like
people
were
using
kind
of
veiled
language
or
references
that
were
too
vague
for
me
to
follow,
but
so
I
appreciate
that
in
the
intervening
week
we've
gotten
kind
of
like
very
direct
emails
about
like
this
was
the
exact
case.
L
This
was
the
you
know,
concern
and
even
from
a
member
of
the
administration
or
an
employee,
I
should
say,
had
concerns
about
the
amendment
directly,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
the
director
another
chance
to
to
come
on
and
and
maybe
speak
again.
I'm
not
sure
I
see
mr
hammond
anywhere
he's.
L
Again,
we
had
a,
we
had
a
brief
discussion
last
week,
so
I
know
that
I
understand
things
a
little
bit
better,
and
so
it
was
like
I'm
just
gonna
say,
and
you
can
correct
me
so
the
case
is
that
our
initial
passing
of
the
crown
act
allowed
basically
for
protection
of.
L
All
kinds
of
choices
around
facial
hair,
specifically
in
this
case
it's
a
an
employee
who
wants
to
grow
out
a
beard,
but
then
there
is
in
his
department
a
rule
against
it
right,
like
an
internal
administrative
rule
against
it.
Am
I
representing
this
correctly,
should
I
be
even
more
direct
with
it,
and
so,
if
this
amendment
would
remove
just
facial
hair,
am
I
understanding
that
correctly.
O
So
I
think-
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
know
exactly
because
I'm
not
in
the
office
that
submitted
the
the
change
to
know
why
this
change
was
submitted.
But
there
is
a
timing
of
what
you're
talking
about.
I
believe
dave
mead
did
send
an
email
to
the
members
of
council
explaining
his
experience.
O
So
what
the
question
was
is
there's
a
a
phrase
in
the
crown
act
that
says
other
forms
of
hair
presentation
and
could
that
be
interpreted
to
include
facial
hair
and
this
person
questioned
that
and
said
you
know,
am
I
covered
under
the
crown
act
and
it's
open
to
interpretation
quite
potentially,
yes,
they
are,
and
they
I
believe,
raised
the
question
to
their
supervisor.
O
Why
is
this
a
bad
thing
to
protect
people
and
the
answer
that
I
got
back
not
from
council
but
from
I
believe,
director
manuel
and
I'm
forgetting
the
name
lindsay
powell
who
came
on
was
that
the
crown
act
in
its
in
its
preamble
and
in
the
spirit
is
not
intended
to
protect
this
person,
who
is
a
white
police
officer
with
a
beard
but
is
intended
to
protect
black
people
and
people
who
have
religious
exemptions
such
as
people
who
are
sikhs
or
muslims,
and
my
objection
to
that
reasoning
is
that
it's
there's
two.
O
The
first
is
that
civil
rights
does
not
work.
If
you
only
protect
one
group
of
people,
civil
rights
only
works.
If
you
protect
all
people,
civil
rights
law
isn't
a
isn't
a
tool
of
equity.
As
it's
trying
to
be
used,
it's
a
tool
of
equality
equity
comes
from
something
else,
but
civil
rights
addresses
equality.
O
My
other
my
other
concern
here
comes
from
my
position
as
a
person
who
cares
about
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
I
mean
all
of
this
comes
as
a
person
who
cares
about
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
I
am
extremely
concerned
about
the
legal
implications
of
creating
laws
that
might
protect
only
one
group
of
people,
like
only
one
race
of
people.
O
Those
types
of
laws
can
be
in
violation
of
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964
and
can
open
the
city
of
pittsburgh
up
to
broader,
broader
legal
liabilities,
which
I
just
don't
want
to
see
because
we
simply
as
a
city,
don't
need
any
complications.
Any
legal
challenges
any
anything
like
that,
financially
or
emotionally,
as
a
city
socially,
as
as
a
population,
we
don't
need
to
separate
people
and
to
potentially
get
in
the
way
of
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964
or
68.
O
L
Thank
you.
I
apologize
for
choking
on
my
coffee.
While
I
was
listening
to
you,
I
I'm
inclined
to
agree
with
you.
I
I
don't
believe
that
the
singling
out
of
a
race
or
a
religion,
or
even
the
lack
of
a
religion
is,
is
that
it's
like
uncivil
and
not
the
definition
of
civil
right
that
we're
extending
these
rights
kind
of
without
these
categories
was
the
way
I
remember
being
taught
was
the
nature
of
the
civil
rights
act
right,
and
so
I
I
believe
that
it's
it
you
know.
Is
it
catch-22?
L
Maybe
some
people
would
see
it
as
I
do
kind
of
respect
the
the
department's
chagrin
at
having
a
internal
policy
that
now
they
have
to
change,
but
I
think
that
I
was
given
briefing
by
some
email
information
from
the
the
employee
that
that
police
departments
around
the
country
have
been
changing
their
policy
around
facial
hair.
So
I'm
going
to
to
agree
with
you
director
that
we
we
just
in
a
slippery
slope.
L
We,
you
know
in
an
indefensible
position
if
we
start
to
say
like
oh
no,
but
this
applies
to
you
and
not
to
you
because
of
whatever
categorical
label.
L
Of
concern
of
that
day,
so
I
don't
support
the
bill
as
amended
and
but
I'm
eager
to
hear
other
members
thoughts.
O
Sorry,
if
I
can
add
two
things
that
I
forgot
to
mention
the
first,
which
is
yes
council
person
gross,
there
is
a
slippery
slope,
so
one
concern
also
that
I
had
is
gender
identity.
O
O
To
mention
which
could
be
useful
information
and
I've
spoken
to
the
law
department
about
this-
is
that
any
business
could
institute
a
policy
that
controls,
hair
or
beards
if
there's
a
legitimate
business,
health
or
safety
reason.
So,
if
there's
a
department
in
our
city
that
has
a
legitimate
business,
health
or
safety
reason
that
needs
to
control
beards
or
any
other
kind
of
hair,
they
would
be
protected
to
make
that
policy.
O
L
Thank
you
so
that
it
doesn't
actually
have
to
be
a
legislative
change
in
order
for
a
policy
to
be
kind
of
discussed,
explored
and
even
defended
and
maintained
right.
So
there
still
is
an
avenue.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
explaining
that,
because
it's
not
that
by
leaving
the
crown
act
as
it
stands,
we're
not
saying
that
there
can
be
no
policy
about
anything.
L
There's
still
our
are
good
reasons
for
policies
and
then
those
can
be
discussed,
explored
and
supported.
Absolutely
okay.
I
think
that's
all
I
have
now,
mr
chair.
H
Mr
chair,
would
you
permit
interrogatory
yeah
yeah?
Thank
you
very
much
ham.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Director
manuel
is
on
the
line
and
I'd
like
to
bring
her
in
for
the
perspective
of
the
hr
department.
If
director,
if
you
could
come
on,
please.
G
Good
morning,
janet
manuel
director
of
hr
and
civil
service
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh-
my
apologies-
I
do
not
have
my
camera
operating
in
the
office,
so
you
can
only
hear
me
but
not
see
me
so
my
apologies,
but
I
wanted
to
follow
up
in
regards
to
again
the
core
aspect
of
the
implementation
of
the
crown
act:
creating
a
respectful
and
open
world
for
natural
hair
crown
act.
G
This
bill
is
offered
for
protection
from
hairstyle
discrimination,
not
necessarily
facial
hair,
but
hairstyle
discrimination
for
black
and
brown
people
at
work,
in
housing,
in
the
classroom
and
in
public
spaces.
That
is
the
whole
core
concept
of
the
crown
act.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
trying
to
eliminate
individuals
and
separating
them
because
they
are
not
of
the
black
and
brown
community.
G
It
is
fact
that
white
males
are
not
being
discriminated
against
due
to
their
facial
hair.
The
fact
is
that
there
are
black
and
brown
people
who
are
being
discriminated
based
on
their
hairstyle
in
the
workplace,
in
housing,
in
the
classroom
and
in
public
spaces.
G
H
Councilman
yeah,
no
thank
you
and-
and
I
appreciate
your
conversation
earlier
to
help
me
understand
better-
understand
the
the
separation
of
the
different
departments
in
the
city
and
that
you
know
I
understand
and
accept
your
definition
of
the
purpose
of
the
crown
act,
and
I
believe
that
then,
because
it
it
is
intended.
As
I
understand
it
and
correct
me
if
I
am
wrong
to
protect
hairstyle
as
it
relates
to
race,
ethnicity
or
religious
affiliation,.
H
Yes,
and
that
is
the
intent
of
what
it
is,
that
the
crown
act
is
its
purpose
to
protect
in
terms
of
our
our
public
safety
department
is
and
I'll
go
so
far
as
to
say,
our
bureau
of
police,
the
the
policy
around
appearance
and
or
dress
code
or
hairstyle
lens
facial
hair
are
those
not
matters
that
are
are
decided
than
within
the
the
the
leadership
from
the
chief
on
down.
H
However,
they
structure
their
their
their
hierarchy
is
that
are
those
not
policy
decisions,
then
that
are
made
within
the
department.
G
You
are
absolutely
correct,
and
so,
if
there
are
any
respective
employees
within
the
public
safety
department
police,
whatever
that
have
any
questions
or
concerns,
I
would
definitely
advise
those
individuals
to
have
a
conversation
with
their
respective
leaders.
If
not,
they
can
also
come
and
speak
with
myself
or
one
of
my
members
of
management
within
the
department
of
hr.
I
have
yet
to
hear
of
any
concerns
or
anyone
being
discriminated
based
on
their
facial
hair,
that
they
are
being
treated
indifferently
based
on
their
facial
hair.
G
H
I
know
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
solicitor
kobe
in
the
law
department
and
there
was
some
level
of
reservation
in
in
being
able
to
acquire
facial
hair
as
it
relates
to
the
public
safety
of
the
officer,
and
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
you
had
spoken
with
law.
H
I
believe
you
were
in
that
discussion
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
if,
if
there
were
a
certain
length
of
facial
hair
or
head
hair
that
worse
out
in
such
a
way
that
it
could
be
used
as
a
weapon
against
the
officer,
the
the
common
term
today
seems
to
be
a
hipster
beard.
But
if,
if
a
gentleman
you
know
or
someone
identifying
were
to
to
grow
a
beard
at
a
certain
length,
it
actually
could
be
used
to
bring
an
officer
down.
H
As
solicitor
kobe
explained
to
me,
and-
and
I
believe
there
are
certain
policies
within
the
the
bureau.
That
would
then
protect
our
female
officers
much
in
the
same
way
in
terms
of
wearing
hair
up
or
under
the
cap.
So
as
to
it
not
having
it
long
and
be
used
in
in
some
way
to
to
assault
an
officer.
Do
I
am
I
understanding
that
correctly.
G
And
your
recollection
is
spot
on
councilman
krauss,
and
so
again
you
hit
one
of
the
key
things
and
that
comes
into
the
play
of
safety,
and
I
believe
director
hammond
mentioned
that
individuals
do
have
that
right
to
be
protected
from
from
that
aspect,
and
so
with
this
respective
policy
that
is
in
place
within
the
public
safety
area.
That
is
for
by
all
means
not
from
a
discriminatory
standpoint,
but
more
so
from
a
safety
standpoint
not
only
for
our
respective
employees,
but
then
even
our
constituents
that
they
have
an
encounter
with
so.
H
No,
I
I'm
good.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
certain
that
I
had
a
clear
understanding
as
to
the
delineation
of
responsibility
as
to
our
desire
as
a
city,
to
be
progressive
and
in
terms
of
how
we
protect
hair
expression
in
it,
as
it
relates
to
race,
ethnicity
and
religious
affiliation
for
us
black
and
brown
people,
especially,
but
then
the
the
separation
of
policy
within
a
police
bureau.
That
would
then
not
be
legislative,
but
rather
be
a
matter
of
their
hierarchy.
H
Hierarchy
in
the
bureau
of
police,
determining
that
for
for
officers.
H
I
appreciate
it
I'm
happy
to
relinquish
the
floor
and
for
any
members
that
might
have
other
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Okay,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
whether
this
question
is
for
jan
janet
or
jam,
I'm
not
quite
sure,
but
I
understand
the
spirit
of
this
bill.
You
know
which
I
agree
with.
However,
it
gets
cloudy
and
you
know
we
get
into
a
jam,
no
pun
intended
jam
when
we
start
looking
at
police
officers.
Thinking
oh
well
now
I
can
grow
a
beard.
So
in
passing
this,
are
we
now
going
to
have
to
rely
on
the
policy
of
the
department
head?
J
O
Why
maybe
janet
has
a
has
a
better
answer
as
to
you
know
the
policy
of
the
police
department
and
its
relationship
to
this
legislation.
I
think
they're
separate
and
should
probably
be
separate
going
back
to
what
director
manuel
said.
It's
going
to
be,
I
think,
hard
to
prevent
people
from
attempting
to
access
their
civil
rights
if
they
think
a
civil
rights
law
could
protect
them
and
they
should
have
the
right
to
ask
that
question.
So
we
could.
O
You
know
this
question
came
about
because
of
the
phrase
other
forms
of
hair
presentation
and
by
the
way
there
are.
There
are
areas
where
facial
hair
is
protected,
just
as
facial
hair,
and
I
will
also
mention
there
are
other
crown-
acts
that
were
referenced
that
were
proven
to
be
unconstitutional
because
they
specifically
protected
black
and
brown
people
and
it's
unconstitutional
and
against
the
civil
rights
act
to
call
out
a
specific
race.
O
That's
protected,
but
even
if
we're
looking
at
this
particular
phrase,
other
forms
of
hair
presentation-
and
we
think
that
that
relates
to
beards.
O
Are
we,
then,
if
we
remove
it,
going
to
argue
that
the
phrase
natural
hair
or
hair
based
on
race
will
not
refer
to
a
person's
natural
hair
or
the
hair
of
any
race
or
the
hair
of
any
religion?
I
just
don't.
I
just
don't
know,
and
I
also
wonder
still
how
how
what
is
harmed
by
protecting
facial
hair
if
it's
protected
what
is
harmed
and
is
the
harm
that
a
police
officer
thinks
that
they
might
be
protected
by
civil
rights
law.
J
Yeah
so
jam
so
we're
in
a
position
right
where,
by
passing
this,
we
open
the
floodgates
for
officers
to
have
beards,
and
maybe
you
know
maybe
I'm
disgruntled,
because
I
still
can't
grow
a
full
beard
or
a
mustache.
I
don't
know
but
but
I
don't
think
it's
professional
I'd.
Rather
not
our
police
officers
have
beards
and
mustaches
and
things
like
that
of
that
nature.
You
know
so
it
comes
becomes
a
policy
issue
and
it
becomes.
J
You
know
director
his
rich.
You
know
safety,
folks
that
you
know
we're
not
permitting
it,
and
if
is
that.
J
The
floodgates
for
them
to
do
you
know
whatever
they
want
I've
gotten
some
emails
from
some
police
officers,
and
I
could
see
it
now.
You
know
I
can
see
lots
of
beards
and
mustaches
on
the
police
force.
I
tend
to
think
it's
just
not
right
myself,
okay,
but
of
course
I
support
the
crown
act
and
the
spirit
of
that
I
just
feel
like
both
are
kind
of
muddled
and
you
know
you're.
I
guess
what
we're
concluding
here
today
is
that
in
passing
this,
it
would
give
everybody
the
right.
O
I
I
think
that
sorry,
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt.
H
No,
no,
no!
No,
it
would
be.
Mr
chairman,
I
don't
want
to
just
butt
in
it.
I
don't
know
how
better
to
explain
it.
The
passing
this
bill
today,
as
the
director
states,
is
the
continuation
of
protecting
the
crown
act
as
we
understand
it
to
be
and
that
it
leaves
separate
the
policy
for
facial
hair
to
the
leadership
of
the
bureau
of
police,
so
by
you're,
saying
that
by
passing
this
it
permits
officers
to
attack
fisher
is
not
accurate.
It
is
this.
There
are
two
separate
discussions.
H
This
is
about
a
continuation
of
protecting
the
crown
act
and
then
the
policy
for
facial
hair
for
police
officers
then
remains
a
a
a
policy
decision
within
the
bureau.
Yeah.
J
Thank
you,
counseling
cross
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
figured
so
I'm
in
support
of
this
today
for
the
spirit
of
the
crown
act.
However,
I
hope
director
his
rich,
you
know,
puts
down
the
policy
that
I
have
to
count
on
in
order
to
make
sure
that
our
officers
aren't.
You
know,
looking
like
grizzly
adams,
for
those
of
you
who
who
remember
grizzly.
O
I
think
if
I
can
just
respond
briefly
to
what
you
said,
I
respect
your
opinion
that
beards
are
unprofessional,
I'm
not
sure
how
deeply
into
the
policy
of
personal
appearance
you've
been,
but
it's
not
all
officers
who
are
not
allowed
to
wear
beers.
It's
only
uniformed
officers.
O
Other
officers
are
allowed
to
wear
beards
and
I
will
also
say
I
believe
you
did
probably
read
and
receive
the
email
from
the
employee
that
the
belief
that
one
person's
appearance
is
unprofessional
when
it's
their
natural
preferred
appearance
and
instituting
a
policy
that
that
governs
that
and
judges.
People
on
the
basis
of
their
appearance
is
a
hindrance
to
diversity,
and
so
I
also
understand
council
persons,
krause's
interpretation
that
passing
this
is
protection
of
the
crown
act.
But
I
disagree,
I
believe
passing
this
is
not
protecting
the
crown
act
or
anything
in
particular.
O
I
think
it's
removing.
So
I
I
understand
the
respect
that
your
opinion
is
that
fears
are
unprofessional,
but
I
I
would
caution
everybody,
not
just
people
on
council,
but
everybody
that
I
know
that
judging
a
person
and
making
judgments
on
a
person
on
the
basis
of
their
appearance
and
putting
that
into
policy,
employment
or
otherwise
is
a
hindrance
to
diversity
in
the
city
in
your
life
in
general,.
J
O
J
That
and
unprofessionals,
probably
not
the
right
word,
though
jim.
So
you
know
I
I
will
retract
that
I
guess
you
know.
I
don't
know
quite
what
word
to
put
on
it.
I
just
don't
feel
that
maybe
maybe
maybe
maybe
just
because
some
people
grow
bears
and
for
me
they're.
You
know
sloppy
okay
and
a
police
officer
showing
up
at
a
scene
is,
you
know,
I
feel
it's
important,
that
they
look
professional
and
you
can
see
their
face.
J
That's
all,
but
so
unprofessional
was
probably
not
the
right
word
to
have
said
there,
but
I'll
support
it
today
and
we'll
just
hope
for
the
best.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned.
As
far
as
you
know,
my
concerns
as
to
every
police
officer,
beards
and
mustaches
that
we
can't
see
their
face.
O
J
Yep-
and
I
get
that
you
know,
we
all
remember-
troy
polomolo
being
pulled
down
by
his
hair
on
a
football
field
right
so
it
does
become.
You
know,
safety
issue,
but
it
could
be
anyway.
So,
okay,
that's
it.
You
know,
I'm
so
very
much
supported
the
spirit
of
the
original
bill.
I
worry
about.
You
know
the
other
ramifications
that
come
along
with
it,
but
that's
it
for
me.
L
F
This
this
idea
captured
in
the
book
white
agility.
F
This
whole
dichotomy
that
you
know
being
a
racist,
is
bad.
You
know,
and
it's
in,
but
that
truth
is
all
if
all
of
us
have
implicit
bias
and
how
we
view
the
world
and
one
doesn't
have
to
be
a
racist
to
engage
in
racist
activity,
often
not
realizing
it's
inbred
in
us.
It's
how
we
see
the
world
right.
So
it's
not
that
we
think
of
ourselves
as
racist.
We
may
not
be
racist,
you
know
be
you're,
not
a
racist,
but
you
have
because
you
grew
up
in
a
certain
environment.
F
You
have
these
automatic
reflexes.
You
know
that
you
say
toward
black
people
and
that
you
just
can't
help
it
it
is.
It
is
a
it
is
racist
in
its
activity,
it
doesn't
mean
the
person
is
racist
and
almost
always
in
my
experience,
whenever
you
do
something
different
against
black
people,
for
whatever
reason
when
it
becomes
the
first
time
this
happens
almost
always
in
my
lifetime.
F
F
So
my
question
really
is
I
mean
the
crown
act
is
nice,
but
how
do
we-
and
you
know
I-
I
I
I'm
sad-
that
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go-
see
a
professor
d'angelo
when
she
was
going
to
come
to
pittsburgh
because
the
pandemic
came,
I've
read
a
book
of
times,
I've
read
I've,
been
reading
anti-racist
literature
so
and
and
and
because
it
manifests
itself
on
council
over
and
over
again,
where
we
unintentionally
say
these
racist
things,
not
realizing
that
they're
racist,
I
don't
think
we
mean
it.
We
just
don't
know
better.
F
How
do
we?
How
do
we
has
there
been
some
thought
to
using
this
framework
to
do
racial
reconciliation
beyond,
like
the
police,
had
to
do
it
right?
We
were
in
the
national
initiative
to
build
community
trust.
With
this
whole
idea
of
implicit
bias
was
was
was
was
forcing
the
police.
F
My
question
really
is:
have
we've
done
that
same
work
on
this
side
of
the
ledger
right
in
the
in
the
other?
You
know
the
non-employee,
ignoring
them,
not
import
the
non-union
employees.
Is
there
a
process
to
get
at
this
and
again
the
crown
act.
You
know
nice
thing,
but
the
real
work
of
this
is
is
to
now
start
to
become
real,
to
kind
of
re-clarify
that
we
are
all
biased
and
we
do
sometimes
unintentionally
what
we
think
is
natural.
F
We
were
it's
just
it's
natural
to
us,
but
not
realizing
that
that
what's
natural
for
us,
unfortunately
has
racial
overtones,
especially
to
people
of
color,
and
so
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
tired
of
sort
of
not
tired,
I
don't
always
have
to,
and
I've
gotten
to
the
point
I
used
to
just
ignore
it.
I
won't
ignore
it
anymore
when
they
when
now
I'm
at
the
point,
is
when
you
say
things
are
racist,
I'm
going
to
call
you
on
it.
You
know
I
won't
allow
it
because
you
know
I've
allowed
it
for
63
of
my
years.
F
I've
had
to
just
take
it
all
right.
Take
it
now
right,
I'm
at
the
end
of
my
career,
and
so
every
time
you
say
something
racist
to
me.
I'm
going
to
point
it
out.
How
do
we
jenna?
How
do
we
get
these
classes?
I
know
it
has
to
do
with
trust.
I'm
not
obviously
I'm
not
the
best
messenger
to
teach
this,
but
I
do
know
what
needs
to
be
taught.
How
do
we,
how
do
we-
I
don't
I
just
that's
really.
My
question
have
I'm
sure
you're,
you
know
been
very
thoughtful
about
this.
F
How
do
how?
How
do
we
institute
this
sort
of
implicit
bias,
training
and
in
in
and
doing
this
anti-racist
work
and
then
bred
it
embedded
rather
in
in
our
city's
culture.
G
Thank
you,
reverend
councilman
burgess,
for
your
comments,
and
you
are
correct
in
in
your
thought,
process
of
the
implicit
bias
and
all
of
us
have
biases,
but
in
particularly
how
does
an
a
respective
employer
not
only
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
all
employers
throughout
continue
to
make
sure
that
this
conversation
is
on
the
forefront.
G
Not
only
have
the
conversation
on
the
forefront
but
make
it
understandable
for
all
employees
in
the
workplace
to
know
that
by
that
prejudices
do
have
does
matter
that
it
does
have
impact
and
that
it's
not
tolerated
in
the
workplace,
and
so
there
is
respective
training.
G
So
within
the
department
of
hr
civil
service,
natasha
molinaro
is
our
senior
talent
development
coordinator
and
she
has
already
outlined
respective
training
and
implicit
bias.
Training
is
one.
I
know
that
this
department
has
also
partnered
with
the
respective
borough
of
police,
as
as
we
have
worked
with
them
on
ruling
out
their
respective
implicit
bias,
and
so
here
we
are
in
the
still
in
the
midst
of
the
pandemic
and
covet
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
implement
it
rolling
it
out
online.
G
Virtually
it
is
taking
a
little
bit
longer
than
we
anticipated,
but
it
is
in
the
works
when
it
comes
to
implicit
bias
or
just
helping
all
members
of
any
workplace
environment
understand
the
rights
for
everyone
that
the
training
is
always
continual,
but
also
for
us
not
to
shy
away
from
tough
topics
such
as
this,
like
the
crown
act
and
the
whole
reason
why
it
actually
had
to
be
implemented,
which
is
shankle
and
inexcusable
in
the
21st
century.
G
But
here
we
are
still
having
to
implement
it
because
of
people
being
discriminated
based
on
their
respective
hairstyles.
G
But
again
to
answer
your
question.
There
is
training
that
is
being
implemented.
It's
taking
just
a
smidge
longer
than
I
even
anticipated
for
it
to
be
rolled
out
all
the
way,
but
we
we
are
continuing
on
that
path.
But
it's
it's
also
beyond
training.
It's
also
all
of
us
not
only
attending
training
but
adhering
to
what
we
have
learned
and
implementing
that
as
well.
F
F
F
F
However,
I
will
say-
and
it
is
proven
by
data
when
you
layer
over
race
to
anything
it
is
worse
if
you're
poor,
that's
a
problem,
if
you're
black
and
poor-
it's
worse.
That
means,
if
you're
black,
if
you're
poor
in
pittsburgh
and
white,
you
live
in
a
good
community.
You
don't
live
in
a
poor
community.
You
have
grocery
stores,
drug
stores,
fast,
food,
restaurants,
if
you're,
white
and
poor.
Your
experience
in
pittsburgh
is
completely
and
utterly
different
than
if
you're,
black
and
poor.
F
If
you're,
black
and
poor,
you
live
in
a
neighborhood
where
there's
no
drug
stores,
there's
no
sit
down.
Restaurants,
there's
no
clothing
stores
of
any
type.
There
may
be
no
gas
stations
in
your
entire
community.
You
probably
live
in
a
food
desert.
Your
experience
is
different
and
worse,
if
you're,
gay,
lesbian
transgender.
F
If
you're
white,
your
experience
is
one
thing:
if
you're,
black
and
transgendered
and
lesbian,
your
experience
is
much
worse.
If
you're
a
white
female,
you
have
prejudice
and
hostility
against
you,
and
I
believe
that
that
gender,
you
know
I
went
to
school
to
study
racism,
gender.
I
was
shocked
that
it
was
to
me
more
widespread
than
race
it's
worldwide.
The
problem
of
not
respecting
women
is
a
worldwide
problem.
F
I've
spent
30
years
teaching
against
it
in
all
my
classes,
which
I
have
a
you
know,
segments
in
all
my
classes
about
it,
but
if
you're
black
and
female,
then
your
outcomes
are
worse
this.
Finally,
you
know
I've
been
saying
this
probably
now
for
all
of
my
life
all
of
my
career
and
it
always
gets
pushed
off.
Oh
no.
This
is
this
is
the
time
for
this
group.
This
is
the
time
for
that
group.
This
is
the
time
for
this
other
group
and
that's
really
what's
more
important.
F
We
are
in
a
system
that
every
day
explicitly
directly
continually
exploits
black
people.
We
are
segregated
by
race
in
where
we
live.
We
are
segregated
by
race
on
purpose,
so
that
black
people
in
homewood
do
not
have
the
property
values
of
white
people
in
white
communities.
It
is
a
system
designed
to
enslave
and
depress
black
people.
That
is
a
truth,
and
I
know
that
makes
people
uncomfortable
to
hear
it.
Of
course,
it
makes
me
uncomfortable
and
I
am
black
right.
It
makes
me
uncomfortable
too,
but
this
frank
conversation
is
the
work
of
our
time.
F
It
is,
I
am,
I
I
believe
you
know
given
my
age
and
and
and
my
tenure
I
I
have
been
called
to
champion
this
work,
but
it
is
not
just
to
empower
black
people.
That
is
a
goal,
but
not
the
overall.
F
The
ultimate
goal
is
to
be
a
city
for
all,
but
the
only
way
the
only
pathway
to
become
a
city
for
all
is
become
a
city
where
block
pittsburgh
matters,
because
we
have
for
hundreds
of
years
intentionally
directly
exploited
people
of
color.
Now
we
must
intentionally
and
directly
disproportionately
engage
them,
bless
them,
invest
in
them
and
build
them
up.
I'm
grateful
to
be
with
councilman
level
and
our
mayor
to
do
just
that.
That
is
my
work.
I
have
been
doing
that.
I
think
we're
doing
a
good
job.
F
We
will
continue
to
do
that,
but
part
of
it
is
to
have
this
conversation
from
time
to
time.
I
do
not
mean
to
be
insulting,
but
we
need
to
be
honest
about
it.
Extraordinarily
honest
because
when
we're
not
honest,
then
the
status
quo
is
allowed
to
continue
and
it
is
deadly.
It
is
toxic,
it
is
it
is.
It
is
in
its.
We
look
at
the
results.
Look
at
it
go.
Look
at
the
kids
results.
Don't
look
at
the
outcome
of
black
people.
F
If
the
system
is
allowed
to
stay
just
like
it
is,
we
will
see
this
disastrous
consequence
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
these
problems.
This
is
the
worst
crisis
for
black
people
of
our
time.
Make
no
mistake
about
this.
This
is
the
worst.
This
is
may
in
many
ways
be.
This
is
probably
worse
since,
since
the
emancipation
proclamation,
this
may
be
the
worst
moment
for
black
people
in
the
history
of
our
country.
F
The
pandemic
has
now
exploited
these
differences
in
such
a
way
that
are
tremendous
in
terms
of
health
and
and
education
and
wealth.
All
it's
just
exploding,
50
of
black
businesses
have
failed.
I
mean
we're
in
a
crisis
black
people.
Now
this
moment
is
devastating,
and
so
we
should
all
of
our.
This
has
to
be
the
work
of
our
time.
This
is
the
moment.
This
is
the
time
this
is
the
players
play
for
it.
F
So,
yes,
I
support
the
crown
act,
but
this
is
just
the
start
of
multiple
things
we
have
to
do
over
and
over
avenues
of
hope.
You
know
police
reimagining,
I'm
investing
in
black
communities
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again-
and
it
still
won't
be
enough
right,
it's
still
in
our
lifetime.
It
will
not
be
enough.
I
I
I
I
know
I'm
too
wrong.
I
tried
to
you,
know
I've
been
able
to
build
these
large,
I
drove
through
armor
right.
F
We
armors-
probably
you
know
my
they
say-
had
something
to
do
with
it.
Maybe
the
alarmer
choice,
the
400
units
that
they're
building
may
have
been
the
best
project.
I've
done,
but
I
can
drive
a
few
blocks
from
there
and
go
steal
and
see
houses
where
there's
hopelessness
where
there's
windows
knocked
out
and
sheets
over
windows
right,
no
matter
how
much
work
we
do.
F
This
problem
will
not
be
face.
We
fixed
in
my
lifetime-
hopefully
my
kids,
who
are
all
studying
this
issue
and
academically
in
one
way
or
another.
Hopefully
they
will
be
part
of
a
different
generation.
I
have
hope
really
that
they
will
go
farther
than
we
have,
but
from
now
to
the
end
of
my
term
on
council,
this
is
will
be
my
laser-like
conversation
every
session
every
meeting
every
encounter.
F
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
conversation
and
reverend
burgess.
Thank
you
for
for
your
comments,
and
one
thing
that
stuck
out
to
me
was
the
need
to
have
these
conversations
over
and
over
again,
but
I
also
agree
with
your
point
that
we
need
to
have
these
conversations
in
a
different
way.
I
think,
with
the
cameras,
often
through
an
actual
facilitated
training
and
anti-racist
and
anti-virus
training.
M
So
I
would
encourage
us
all
to
to
find
a
way
to
do
that
and
take
advantage
of
what
we
of
what
know
director
manuel
and
her
department.
Have
I
really
like
to
see
that
back
to
the
crown
act
for
a
minute
I
I
keep
coming
back
to
the
question
of
who
is
being
discriminated
against
and
who
is
facing
the
actual
discrimination,
and
last
week
I
was,
I
was
a
little
confused
about
what
why
the
reason
behind
the
changes
I
brought
it
up.
M
I
wrote
I
raised
the
question
and
since
then
I've
had
a
lot
of
time
to
talk
with
many
people
and
to
think
about
this,
and
you
know
I've
worked
with
the
commission
on
human
relations
over
my
time.
Here
in
many
ways,
every
single
time
we
had
to
prepare
for
the
question
from
the
news
media
from
whomever
who's
facing
discrimination
is
the
discrimination
real
and
in
this
case,
when
I
think
about
who's
being
discriminated
against.
When
it
comes
to
facial
hair.
M
You
know
putting
aside
the
police
officer
for
just
a
second,
because
I
think
that
is
muddying
the
water
a
little
bit
and
for
the
record
I
do
believe
that
beards
can
be
professional
and
can
be
safe
and
can
be.
You
know
if
there,
if
there
were
to
be
a
policy
that
changed
within
public
safety,
that
there
are
many
different
versions
of
facial
hair
that
can
be
both
safe.
M
For
you
know
a
tight-fitting
mask
and
save,
for
you
know
other
reasons
as
well,
and
I
will
tell
lieutenant
need
that
directly
in
an
email
as
well
that
you
know
if
we
need,
if
he
needs,
advocates
to
to
help
that
in
the
internal
policy
that's
great,
but
putting
that
aside
for
a
second,
I
think
about
other
people
who
might
face
discrimination
because
of
facial
hair,
and
I
just
am
coming
up
empty
with
examples
of
that,
wouldn't
otherwise
be
covered
by
religion,
which
is
a
protected
class
or
gender
identity
and
expression
which
isn't
a
protected
class.
M
Because
of
the
work
that
councilman
krauss
and
I
did
together
a
couple
years
ago.
So
I
I'm
failing
to
recognize.
I
understand
what
director
hammond
is
saying
about
the
need
for
this
is
equality
versus
equity,
and
this
that
you
can't
single
out
specific
people
that
you're
looking
to
protect
here.
But
I
don't
think
that
the
crown
act,
as
would
be
amended,
does
I
think
it
says
that
there
are
types
of
hair,
regardless
of
who
you
are
that
are
that.
Are
that
cannot
be
discriminated
against?
M
That
you
cannot
be
discriminated
against
because
of
that?
And
regardless
of
what
you
know,
the
intention
is
that
could
cut
across
race,
gender
and
you
know
ethnic
and
religious
lives.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
it
still
would
be
protective
of
you
know
a
wide
swath
of
people,
just
not
someone
who
can't
bring
a
a
just
cause
before
the
commission
because
of
a
religious
or
gender
identity,
expression
or
another
reason
because
of
their
beard,
if
that
makes
any
sense
at
all.
M
So
I
I'm
comfortable
with
this
amendment
now
that
I've
had
some
time
to
think
about
it
and
some
some
conversations
with
people.
I
just
wanted
to
distinguish
between
what
I
think
is
an
internal
policy
of
the
police
and
what
I
think
is
before
us
today.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
I
know
she
sent
you
a
text
now.
I
just
want
to
say
real
quickly
that
I'm
ever
I've
heard
all
the
conversations.
I
really
think
that
the
broader
issue
is
that
we
should
really
be
looking
to
what
the
obstacles
are
for
employment
in
the
sit
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh
for
every
department,
and
I
do
know
that
there
was
a
study
done
by
the
department
of
justice,
the
equal
employment
opportunity.
Commission,
I
think
in
2016
that
was
established
by
president.
N
Then
president
obama
to
look
at
the
the
obstacles
and
barriers
to
employment
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
a
result
of
that
in
other
cities
are
that
they're
eliminating
the
facial
record,
their
facial
hair
requirements
or
limitations,
especially
in
the
police
departments,
and
so
that's
one
way
that
they're
actually
increasing
diversity.
That's
an
effort
to
increase
diversity.
N
I
don't
know
the
success
of
it
yet
so
I
I
and
I
think
that
I've
had
a
conversation
with
council
or
with
a
chief
of
staff
gilman
previously
that
you
know
one
of
our
policies
for
dpw
as
internal
policy
was
that
you
have
to
have
a
driver's
license
to
be
employed
by
the
department,
and
I
said
you
know
I
understand
if
there's
four
drivers
in
the
truck,
if
two
of
them
are
licensed
drivers
in
case
something
would
happen
to
one,
but
I
don't
understand
the
purpose
for
all
four
having
to
have
a
license
if
they're
not
all
for
driving
their
vehicle,
and
so
I
just
thought.
N
Maybe
that
might
be
some
of
the
obstacles
I
just.
It
would
be
probably
helpful
if
council
would
form
a
committee
to
work
together,
maybe
with
the
councilman
burgess,
councilman,
krauss
and
others
who
might
have
concerns
or
want
to
participate
in
trying
to
come
up
with
something
to
avoid
all
these
obstacles
or
address
all
the
obstacles.
I
think
here
might
be
one
of
those
things
that
we
have
to
work
as
I've
heard
several
times
here
independently
of
this
vote
today.
N
So
I
think
that
when
there
are,
there
are
officers
that
that
want
to
have
facial
hair
and
some
of
some
people
I
know
like
my
middle
eastern
family-
can't
always
help
their
facial
hair,
whether
it's
for
male
or
females.
So
I
I
hear
councilman
coghill
saying
he
can't
grow
a
beard,
I'm
thinking
mike
and
he
wishes
they
could
stop.
So
so
I
just
want
to
say.
N
I
think
that,
knowing
that
there
are
barriers
where
people
have
issues
or
or
not
or
just
desires,
to
have
a
beard
doesn't
make
them
any
less
able
to
do
their
job
or
any
less
professional
it,
and
it
also
my
concerns,
doesn't
make
them
less
safe,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
the
stuff
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
work
with
director
history,
because
he
has
a
you
know,
just
a
tremendous
amount
of
knowledge
when
it
comes
to
public
safety,
so
I
think
working
together,
that's
how
we'll
come
up
with
the
best
policies
to
increase
diversity
with
our
within
our
entire
workforce.
L
Thank
you.
I
just
have
to
state
that
we
have
at
the
table
so
to
speak.
The
people
who
can
be
viewed
here,
look
for
male,
you
know
representatives
and
members
with
facial
hair.
Here
I
don't
think
you
should
be
excluded
from
office.
I
don't
think
you
look
unprofessional.
L
I
don't
think
you
present
a
safety
hazard
and
but
I
do
want
to
just
kind
of
come
back
to
the
points
that
mr
hammond
made
last
week,
which
is
that
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
today,
the
amend
we
amended
by
substitution
last
week.
L
First
and
then
we
held
so
the
way
mr
hammond
presented
to
me
and
to
the
public
right.
That
is
that
the
amendment
by
substitution,
that
is
in
front
of
us
today,
is
a
reduction
of
rights
and
which
is
kind
of
removing
some
protections
from
some
people.
L
L
I
also
heard,
I
think,
both
from
director
manuel
from
councilman
krause
from
strahaman,
that
there
is
still
even
under
our
currently
more
robust
crown,
more
inclusive
crown
act
passed
in
october,
that
there's
still
pathways
for
administrative
departments
to
have
policies
that
protect
the
safety
of
individuals
or
of
the
public,
and
that
could
involve
links
or
style
or
hair
where
it
is
and
what
it
does
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
what
we
have
right
now
is
what
I
understand
is
that
the
police
department
has
some
policies.
L
We
have
this
more
inclusive
crown
act.
If
we
voted
this
down
today,
the
more
inclusive
policy
stands
from
october,
and
then
we
can
still,
you
know,
have
reasonable
policies
around
these
things
and
it
did.
It
doesn't
cause
an
undue
burden
to
city
departments.
This
is
what
I'm
hearing,
and
so
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
this
amended
version
of
the
crown
act
that
I
understand
to
to
from
mr
hammond
to
exclude
some
people
or
reduce
the
rights
that
are
being
offered.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
it
is
confusing,
because
what
is
in
front
of
us
today
isn't
amended
by
substitution,
because
we
did
that
last
week
am
I
I
understood
that
correctly
right.
We
did
do
that
last
week.
Yes,
we
amended
by
substitution,
we
discussed
a
little
bit
and
then
we
held
for
this
week
all.
E
A
H
A
L
A
One
opposed
any
abstentions.
Bill
is
recommended.
Thank
you
all
thanks.
That
does
move
us
on
to
our
land
use
and
economic
development
committee,
which
is
chaired
by
councilman
wilson.
Our
first
paper
is
bill.
1048.
I
P
Second
just
want
to
open
the
floor
for
any
members.
That
may
say
something
about
this
property
doesn't
reside
in
my
district,
but
has
my
full
support.
It's
been
through
the
public
hearing
process
and
has
the
approval
of
the
you
know
all
entities
in
the
city
plan
department.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
councilman
wilson
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
say
briefly
that
we
had
a
a
very
well
attended
historic
review
here,
related
hearing
public
hearing
that
was
also
attended
by
councilwoman
gross
and
just
had
overwhelming
support
from
from
neighbors
from
squirrel
hall
urban
coalition
friends
of
mellon
park,
point
breeze
organization,
all
the
sort
of
many
of
us
of
the
neighboring
organizations
that
have
been
working
on
this
historic
landmark
status
and
I'm
in
full
support.
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone.
M
Who's
spent
so
much
time
and
really
dug
into
the
details
on
you
know,
uncovering
the
history
and
historic
nature
of
this
park.
It
really
is,
as
was
said
by
sarah
quinn
from
city
planning,
our
historic
city
planner.
M
This
is
probably
the
only
park
in
the
country,
if
not
one
of
the
few
that
has
the
history
of
kind
of
and
has
has
been
touched
by
what
is
called
like
the
grandfather
of
landscape
architecture,
but
is
open
to
the
public
free
of
charge.
Mostly,
that
does
not
happen.
If
you
go
to
other
places
around
the
country,
you
have
to
pay
to
see
lansing
architecture
like
this.
M
I
think
that
you
know
you
really
heard
it
today
in
our
public
comment
from
ms
joy
sato,
who
has
such
a
history
there,
and
I
just
really
want
to
thank
her
for
speaking
today
for
her
work
in
melon
park
for
the
pittsburgh
center
for
the
arts,
but
her
work,
you
know
outside
of
outside
of
pittsburgh
center
for
the
arts
from
mellon
park
as
well.
She's
been
such
a
champion
of
the
park,
and
it
really
showed
through
her
comments
today
so
to
everyone
who's
who
has
been
working
on
this.
M
I
shouldn't
forget:
preservation,
pittsburgh
as
well.
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done
and
it
will
continue
to
be
a
park
that
is
used
in
many
different
ways,
and
I
think
the
big
discussion
now
is
how
do
we
turn
it
into
more
of
a
campus.
I
M
J
A
Thank
you
any
other
members,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
bill
is
recommended
that
takes
us
to
our
new
paper
bill.
1182.
H
Hey
councilman
wilson,
deep
apologies.
H
A
second
yeah,
thank
you,
I'm
sorry
yeah!
Thank
you.
Second
deep
apologies.
Councilman
wilson.
I
had
every
intention
of
reaching
out
to
you
last
week
we're
trying
to
figure
out
I'm
working
with
the
budget
office
as
to
why
we're
transferring
this
from
the
southside
athletic
association
to
the
brochure
association,
there
seems
to
be
a
point
of
confusion
there
and
we're
still
trying
to
work
it
out.
So,
if
you
would
please
could
we
offer
up
for
another
one
we
called
and
I'll
I'll
be
ready
next
week.
P
No
problem,
I
I
guess
I
thought
you
had
some
clarification
but
motion
to
hold
one
week
same
second,.
A
I
1181
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
city
solicitor
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
cycom
data
systems,
inc
for
professional
services,
relating
to
continuing
maintenance,
support
and
upgrades
to
the
city
law.
The
department
of
law's
current
legal
case
management
and
administrative
support
software
system
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
11
376.
H
L
A
H
L
Thank
you
so
the
next
two
bills
I
did
check
with
lawn
planning
and
everyone.
I
appreciate
councilman
lavell's
office,
I
think,
started
the
chain
because
he
was
checking
on
the
grenada
with
theater,
which
is
coming
up
next,
but
I
do
have
after
digging,
while
we
were
talking
in
my
computer,
something
I'd
like
to
share
briefly
with
members,
since
we
got
on
the
topic
today,
so
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
just
briefly.
Hopefully
I'll
do
this
right.
A
H
L
This
is
the
official
city
of
pittsburgh
development
process
that
we
all.
I
think
this
is
what
we
as
council
members
voted
for
for
the
funding,
and
I
said
it's
a
very
circuitous
path
right,
and
this
is
why
I
can't
say
to
the
law
department.
Oh
sure,
don't
I'll
have
my
staff
double
check
and
make
sure
we
are
not
members
of
the
administration.
L
There
are
many
many
people
in
the
administration
who
are
responsible
to
be
sure
that
a
development
permits
are
issued
when
they
should
be
and
where
they
should
be,
according
to
code
that
we
have
all
put
in
place
because
we
are
the
body
that
creates
the
code.
But
you
see
my
mouse
kind
of
circling
here.
L
This
little
part
is
well,
it's
not
independent.
Actually,
there's
there's
pwsa
throughout
there's
pwc
here,
but
there's
a
part
as
you've
gotten
through
all
of
this
up
above
and
then
I'll
hear
this
way.
I
kind
of
understand
it
that
it
flows
down
to
here-
and
it
goes
not
just
to
pwsa-
goes
to
dep
pwsa
alka-san
law
and
then
still
yet
after
city
council,
you
technically
don't
have
your
sewer.
L
Permit
dep
could
still
throw
it
out,
and
that
has
happened
in
my
time
on
council
and
they
really,
as
the
state
department
of
environmental
protection,
are
the
the
way
I
understand
it
again,
but
you
know
I'm
welcoming
further
further
conversation
is
that
this
is.
L
L
I
mean
that
was
the
kind
of
threatening
letters
that
were
issued
some
number
of
years
ago
actually
did
talk
about
it
when
we
were
in
session,
so
I'll
stop
sharing.
So
I
would
love
to
talk
more
about
this
offline
or
in
other
meetings,
and
we
can
talk
about.
L
You
know
how,
when,
when
it
gets
to
our
part
that
my
question
has
been
in
these
months
back
and
forth
the
conversation
it
appeared
that
some
of
those
the
the
sewer
permits
were
getting
to
our
council
agenda,
sometimes
having
skipped
some
of
the
steps
on
that
chart
and
sometimes
had
skipped
over
us
and
had
already
built
their
buildings,
and
so
neither
situation
seemed
right
or
certainly
to
be
according
to
our
responsibility
to
the
public.
L
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
that
these
two
modules-
next
one
this
one,
I'm
supportive
of
this
one
and
the
next
one
they're
both-
have
received
all
of
their
permits
according
to
the
email
chains
that
I
have
that's
all.
Thank
you.
H
N
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
thank
councilwoman
gross
for
all
the
work
she
does
with
this,
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
have
been
talking
to
chief
of
staff
gilman,
who
I
know
is
also
working
on
the
whole
flow
chart
with
other
people,
not
our
office,
but
with
other
people,
including
people
who
have
to
go
through
the
process
so
hopefully,
between
he
and
councilwoman
gross.
We
come
up
with
something
that's
much
more
user-friendly
and
in
the
correct
sequence.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Councilwoman.
M
A
Second,
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
right.
All
right,
you
opposed
bill
is
recommended,
and
that
does
exhaust
our
agenda.
For
today
we
do
have
meeting
announcements
next
week.
Council
will
hold
their
regular
and
standing
committees
meeting
on
tuesday
and
wednesday
february
23rd
and
24th
at
10
a.m
respectively.
A
Also,
next
wednesday
february
24th
at
1
pm
council
will
hold
a
post-agenda
discussion
on
the
hiv
aids
commission,
chaired
by
councilman
o'connor,
to
register
to
speak
at
the
council
meetings.
Please
fill
out
and
sign
up
form
in
its
entirety
on
the
council
meeting
scheduled
web
page
registration
deadlines
are
9
a.m.
The
day
of
the
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings.
You
may
also
regularly
speak
register.
Excuse
me
to
speak
by
calling
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138.