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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
wednesday
february,
24th
2021
council
will
continue
to
meet
virtually
until
further
notice.
Meetings
can
now
be
viewed,
live
on
the
city
channel
and
live
streamed
on
youtube.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
may
be
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
A
Please
provide
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record.
After
doing
so,
your
three
minutes
will
begin.
Our
first
speaker
is
ikuhana
hao,
maokina.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
My
grandmother
is
89
years
old
and
it
is
her
wish
that
before
she
leaves
this
earth
that
you
will
be
compelled
to
do.
What
is
right,
because
it
is
on
the
strong
backs
of
my
ancestors
that
I
do
this
work
that
I
plead
to
you
all
to
do.
What
is
noble?
What
is
right,
what
is
just
to
act
in
good
faith
towards
the
indians,
which
is
why
we
are
constantly
mentioned
in
the
constitution,
and
so,
if
you're
bound
by
your
oath,
to
uphold
support,
protect
and
defend
the
constitution,
and
I
urge.
C
C
C
C
We
are
the
stewards
of
our
lands
and
we
worked
in
tandem
and
our
ancestors
worked
in
tandem
with
your
people,
the
europeans
of
all
parts
of
europe
and
to
include
asia
and
to
include
parts
of
what
is
now
called
africa,
which
was
called
barbaria.
At
that
time,
we
are
holding
you
accountable
to
your
oaths
in
the
most
kindest
way.
We
come
to
you
and
we
have
repeatedly.
C
C
As
you
have
rights
to
live
in
our
land
on
our
lands,
we
have
rights
to
steward
our
lands.
Our
rights
are
international
rights,
as
well
as
united
states
congress
rights.
They
will
not
be
trampled
on.
We
are
not
here
to
make
war
with
your
people.
Are
you
here
to
make
war
with
us?
Are
you
here
to
create
more
chaos
on
our
lands?
Are
you
here
to
continue
the
genocide
of
your
ancestors?
C
C
We
know
many
of
you
have
good
hearts,
so
we
are
compelling
you
to
do
the
right
thing
to
respond
to
our
emails,
to
continue
our
meetings
and
to
move
forward.
So
let
the
healing
begin
of
the
multiple
lives
that
were
lost
in
the
many
wars
and
battles
that
were
fought,
the
indian
wars
that
don't
get
taught
in
school.
D
D
This
is
urgent
that
we
do
the
right
thing
here.
There's
currently
102
hearings
scheduled
for
pittsburgh
just
the
week
of
march
1st
and
250
in
the
month
of
march
396
total
scheduled
and
in
addition
to
the
folks
who
haven't
had
a
hearing.
Yet
there
have
been
81
orders
for
possession
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
since
the
cdc
moratorium
began
and
there
are
currently
120
additional
cases
which
have
been
found
for
the
plaintiff
in
the
last
180
days,
where
the
order
for
possession
could
be
requested
at
any
time
it.
D
In
order
to
be
able
to
protect
those
folks
and
folks
who
landlords
are
potentially
preparing
to
to
file
on,
we
need
to
do
better
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
protect
those
tenants.
D
E
E
Hey
y'all
yeah,
my
name
is
jacob,
I'm
with
the
pittsburgh
union
regional
renters,
my
pronouns.
Are
he
and
him
I'm
back
to
also
urge
you
all
to
adopt
amendments
to
the
proposed
eviction,
action
that
are
that
are
auto
enrolling
that
do
place
the
burden
of
even
getting
these
hearings
into
the
course,
which
is
the
public
health
hazard
and
of
itself
onto
the
landlord.
Again
we
operate
from
a
place
of
housing
as
a
human
right.
E
It
is
wild
to
us
that
you
know
there's
this
much
contortion
around
trying
to
trying
to
deny
people
that,
but
things
being
what
they
are,
the
burden
needs
to
be
on
landlords.
Just
as
in
a
criminal
proceeding.
You
know,
the
burden
of
proof
is
on
the
plaintiff,
and
I
say
that
not
just
because
you
know
I
feel
like
it
sounds
okay,
but
because
that's
the
reality
of
eviction
anytime
is
that
the
consequences
of
an
eviction
have
the
same
consequences
that
a
lot
of
criminal
proceedings.
E
Do
it
haunts
you
in
your
ability
to
get
housing
for
the
rest
of
your
life.
It
damages
your
credit.
It
separates
families.
These
are
all
things
we're
supposed
to
be
opposed
to,
and
I
I
just
think
this
is.
This
is
a
common
sense
thing
with
the
things
that
we've
established
so
far,
we
know
you'll
have
the
authority
to
do
this.
You
have
demonstrated
repeatedly
stated
your
will
to
do
this.
Close
the
loopholes
finish
the
job
and
we
really
appreciate
it.
E
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
forcing
people
off
of
their
land
is
part
of
a
longer
story
that
was
being
talked
about
earlier,
and
this
is
a
very,
very,
very,
very,
very,
very
small,
and
certainly
not
you
know
good
enough
chance
for
you
to
show
some
acknowledgement
of
the
fact
that,
like
yeah
people
have
a
place
to
be,
and
we
we
shouldn't
be,
you
know,
hang
ourselves
up
over
trying
to
do
otherwise
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic.
So
please
do
adopt
those
amendments.
Please
do
make
this
auto
unrolling.
E
Please
do
put
this
burden
where
it
should
be
people
who
are
trying
to
do
some
evil
in
the
middle
of
a
plague.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
appreciate
y'all
working
with
us
on.
F
F
F
Also,
as
stated,
this
policy
needs
to
auto
enroll
and
close
the
loopholes.
This
will
prevent
deaths
for
real,
so
I'm
just
showing
up
again
to
urge
you
to
follow
through.
Let's
get
this
done,
I
have
other
folks
who
are
struggling
in
other
ways
that
I
would
love
to
volunteer
and
help
in
new
ways
next
week.
I
also
support
indigenous
folks
and
aboriginal
folks
right
to
self-determination
and
autonomy
and
hope
you
enjoy
this
beautiful
preview
of
spring
and
please
soften
your
hearts
and
do
the
right
thing.
Thank
you.
G
G
Things
were
good
until
they
weren't
in
2019.
For
the
second
time
she
left
the
plumbing
problem
go
unreported
to
the
tune
of
several
thousand
dollars.
The
last
contact
I
had
with
her
was
in
february
2020
at
the
conclusion
of
the
repair.
It
was
only
through
the
plumber
that
I
could
speak
with
her
because
she
avoided
my
cause.
She
had
promised
to
pay
her
balance
by
march
7..
At
this
point,
she
was
short
on
december's
rent
and
had
not
paid
anything
since
once
the
due
date
passed,
I
initiated
the
eviction
process
with
a
notice.
G
G
I
tried
to
walk
her
through
the
process
of
submitting
paperwork
to
get
a
aid
to
what
she
has
not
followed
through.
She
has
received
support
for
herself
and
her
children
via
stimulus
and
ebt
program,
which
our
schools
have
helped
her
complete
paperwork
for
my
property
is
a
complete
mess
and
she
has
another
adult
staying
there.
That
was
not
approved.
The
pwsa
bill
is
now
over
thirteen
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
on
the
chopping
block
for
a
lien.
I
offer
creative
ways
for
her
to
compensate
me,
but
she
never
followed
through.
G
When
I
could
file
for
eviction,
I
did
and
had
a
mediation
session
scheduled,
but
she
did
not
show
each
appointment
since
then
has
been
postponed.
This
vote
you
all
are
considering,
will
cancer
my
cancel
my
hearing
set
for
311.,
I'm
already
at
a
point
of
just
giving
up,
because
I
cannot
fathom
the
unknown
expenses.
This
has
caused
me
and
I
do
not
see
a
way
out.
A
blanket
policy
cannot
be
put
in
place
regarding
evictions.
G
I
first
spoke
out
about
this
in
the
spring,
via
the
news,
and
my
story
was
swallowed
up
by
the
rent
protest
story
that
ran
after
it.
I
have
been
reaching
out
to
the
governor
and
mayor
via
social
media
with
no
acknowledgement
at
all.
This
has
increased
my
stress
load
100
fold,
especially
as
our
near
and
early
retirement
due
to
disability.
G
At
the
very
least,
these
cases
should
be
examined
on
an
individual
basis.
Despite
the
persona,
not
all
landlords
are
bad
and
not
all.
Residents
are
honest.
I
haven't
trusted
my
property
to
this
person
before
any
guarantee
for
myself.
I'm
experiencing
financial
struggles
too
and
cannot
take
care
of
another
family.
Why
are
we
expected
to
shorter
this.
A
H
Good
morning
I
said,
the
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
also
the
moratorium.
I'm
a
local
landlord
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
my
issue
today
is
that
I'd
like
you
to
consider
is
that
I
hear
everybody
talking
about
the
tenants
nobody's
talking
about
the
landlord.
H
I
have
experienced
myself
tenants
who
are
making
excuses
and
using
the
moratorium
as
an
excuse
not
to
pay
rent
when
they
are
not
impacted
by
financial
burdens
at
what
at
all,
and
some
of
my
questions
are-
is
that,
if
you're
going
to
put
a
moratorium
on
rent,
why
not
put
a
moratorium
on
the
taxes
that
I
have
to
pay
on
that
rental
property
that
you
won't?
Allow
me
to
collect
rent
on,
in
addition
to
putting
a
moratorium
onto
the
water
bills
and
the
electric
bills
and
the
gas
bills
that
we
have
to
pay?
H
Also,
I
think
that
maybe
the
tenants
need
to
provide
strict
proof
that
they
are
actually
impacted
financially
by
the
the
pandemic.
When
you
go
to
a
bank
loan,
they
don't
just
take
your
word
because
they
sign
that
blanket
affidavit
that
says
I'm
out
of
work.
The
bank
doesn't
do
that.
The
bank
says
we
want
to
see
your
tax
returns.
H
The
bank
at
least
has
the
ability
to
foreclose
on
property,
which
gives
them
a
tangible
asset.
All
we're
going
to
get
as
a
landlord
is
this
piece
of
paper
that
gives
us
a
judgment
that
we'll
never
be
able
to
collect
on
because
we're
collecting
it
from
people
who
couldn't
pass
rent
in
the
first
place.
H
So
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
you
to
do
is
to
consider
making
the
tenants
prove
that
they
actually
need
help,
but
to
also
keep
in
place
the
cdc
recommendations
that
would
guard
us
against
people
who
are
providing
illegal
activities
in
the
home
have
lease
violations
and
whose
leases
has
have
expired.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
listening
and
I
would
hope
you
would
take
into
consideration
the
landlords
that
are
also
being
affected
by
us
not
being
able
to
collect
rent,
especially
from
those
people
who
are
taking
advantage
of
the
situation.
Thank
you.
A
I
I
I
Consider
what
type
of
safety
measures
can
be
and
or
will
be
put
in
place
for
tenants
once
landlords
require
the
full
payment
of
that
old
rent.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
believe
that
exhaust
our
list,
I'm
just
sort
of
trying
to
double
check
it.
There
was
one
gentleman
who
was
did
not
make
it.
I
still
do
not
see
his
name.
A
B
E
L
A
A
N
N
Yes,
yeah:
this
is
wonderful
that
wi-fi
supports
coming
to
mckinley
wreck.
Oh
director
chapman's
here
did
you
wish
to
speak
to
this
director.
N
O
Oh
thanks,
thanks
for
having
me,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
yeah.
We
were
working
closely
with
the
folks
at
allegheny
county.
I
think
there
were
some
additional
funds
that
they
were
able
to
secure.
To
make
this
happen,
we
gave
them
pretty
much
the
location
of
every
one
of
our
facilities,
not
knowing
which
ones
they
might
select.
So
hopefully
this
is
the
start
of
just
maybe
more
of
this
to
come,
but
it's
nice
that
we
were
able
to
capture
this
with
no
cost
to
the
city.
O
It
will
help
help
amplify
the
current
wi-fi
service
that
the
city
provides,
and
it
will
allow
folks
in
the
immediate
area
to
have
free
free
access
to
wi-fi.
So,
thanks
for
the
support
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
N
Hey
the
director
just
one
quick
question:
would
you
have
any
idea
of
just
how
broad
a
net
is
going
to
be
cast
around
mckinley
rex?
That's,
okay!.
O
I
think
it
might
be
really
specific
to
the
topography
and
geography
of
that
area
council,
but
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
can
certainly
reach
out
there's
some
some
really
good
smart,
helpful
people
at
the
county
that
we
worked
with
closely.
This
was
took
a
little
while
to
get
this
together
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
donation
happen.
So
I
can
reach
out
and
find
out.
I
think
it
would
be
within
the
maybe
a
one
block
radius.
N
With
richard
carrington's
there
it
would
be
wonderful
if
it
did
extend
into
the
park
just
in
some
way.
You
know
that
the
outside
activities
that
take
place
could
be
wi-fi
compatible.
You
know,
that's.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
other
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
P
Yes,
councilman
sorry
for
interrupting.
I
wanted
to
register
I
votes,
I'm
I'm
unable
to
make
the
rest
of
the
meeting
due
to
a
light
of
life
event.
A
I
A
I
A
J
I
J
A
Any
opposed
p-cards
are
approved
that
moves
us
onto
our
public
safety
services
committee,
which
is
chaired
by
councilman
o'connor.
One
deferred
paper
bill
oath,
145.
M
Your
145
ordinance
amendment
ordinance,
number
36
of
2019
amending
and
supplementing
the
pittsburgh
code.
Title
6
conduct
article
3
dogs,
cats
and
animals
by
repealing
chapter
6
39
and
adding
a
new
chapter
639
prohibiting
keeping
sale
exchange,
adoption
exchange
or
transfer
of
such
animals
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
N
N
Thanks
councilman,
I
I
just
want
members
to
know
that
you
know.
While
we
keep
holding
this
bill,
it
is
not
for
progress.
There
actually
is
progress
being
made
and
there's
open
lines
of
communication
against
a
number
of
different
entities,
and
so
we
continue
to
work
through
it,
and
so
I
appreciate
your
patience
during
this
time
and
I
appreciate
councilman
o'connor's
willingness
to
assist
with
a
four-week
hold
so
motion
to
hold
four
weeks.
Please.
A
M
Bill
1204
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety
to
enter
on
behalf
of
the
city
into
a
licensed
agreement
with
smg
and
sports
and
exhibition
authority
of
allegheny
county
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
750
for
the
purpose
of
hosting
a
department
of
public
safety
promotion
ceremony
at
the
david
l
lawrence
convention
center
on
march.
4Th
2021.
K
A
M
N
R
I
have
to
publicly
clear
that
I
have
a
conflict
in
this
legislation.
My
wife
has
an
interest
in
this
property,
so
I
will
be
abstaining.
B
S
A
M
A
A
A
N
S
Thank
you
all,
so
we
heard
testimony
this
morning.
This
is
the
bill,
of
course,
that
we
presented
yesterday
and
motioned
for
rule
eight
and
just
to
recap,
comments
from
yesterday
the
cdc
moratorium
and
the
way
it's
been
applied
in
western
pennsylvania
through
our
courts
and
medicinal
courts
has
a
lot
of
loopholes.
S
It's
basically
allowing
almost
every
kind
of
eviction,
except
for
lack
of
cash
payment
and,
as
we've
heard
in
the
testimony
and
and
have
kind
of
been
keeping
update
on
these
numbers
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
there
are
very
detailed
numbers
that
we
have
120
evictions
that
you
know
could
have
happened
yesterday,
while
we
were
speaking,
could
happen
right
now.
S
So
what
to
do
right,
we
were
trying
in
this
legislation
to
tighten
up,
provide
more
expansive
protections
right,
expand
protections
for
tenants,
but
still
allow
for
a
pathway
for
those
grievances
that
we
heard
a
little
bit
about.
In
testimony
today,
there
are
some
situations
I
heard
about,
for
example,
from
councilwoman
smith,
that
you
know
the
community
has
actually
been
working
for
a
very
long
time
on
making
their
apartment
neighborhood
safer,
because
there
are,
there
are
situations
because
one
tenant
putting
them
in
danger
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
a
pathway
for
that.
S
So,
just
to
recap,
I
had
sent
you
all
a
memo
a
week
or
so
ago
saying
how
we
started
off
with
trying
to
insert
language
back
in
the
middle
of
january
and
seeing
what
it
would
look
like
in
the
declaration
of
emergency
that
went
to
a
law
department,
opinion
and
who
discouraged
us
from
taking
that
path
and
putting
us
here.
Instead
of
amending
title
vii,
we've
been
back
and
forth
of
language
multiple
times
a
little
bit
of
what
you
heard
this
morning.
S
We
were
still
working
through
late
last
night
in
that
the
language
I
introduced
yesterday,
tuesday,
which
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
all
the
members
who
co-sponsored
could
be
still
flushed
out
a
little
bit
about
how
a
landlord
especially
can
be
heard
and
have
a
way
to
present
to
the
courts
that
they're,
not
in
violation
of
the
city
ordinance,
and
so
that's
the
language
that
I
just
emailed
to
you
this
morning
after
we
called
to
order,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
you,
know,
motion
to
amend
that
now,
but
you
do
have
it
there
to
read.
S
I
thought,
since
this
is
kind
of
coming
just
before
us
and
related
from
yesterday,
we
wanted
to
maybe
just
start
with
questions
and
answers
today.
So
I'll
I
will
stop
talking
and
I'll.
Let
members
kind
of
ask
you
know
their
first
question,
since
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
discuss
that.
N
Thank
you
very
much
so
councilman
will
you
permit
enter
or
mr
chair.
Will
you
permit
interrogatory
with
the
councilwoman?
N
N
Can
you
walk
through
just
philosophically
what
you'd
like
what
we
collectively
would
like
to
achieve
with
this
piece
and
with
the
amendments,
I
too
have
some
authentic
concern
in
reservation
about
our
inability
to
to
keep
this
balance
that
you
know
we
both
fight
for
our
our
our
single
property
landlord
owners
and
we
want
to
protect
them.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
put
them
in
in
positions
where
they
find
themselves
in
a
bind,
but
yet
at
the
same
time
want
to
protect
anyone
from
undue
cause
to
to
be
evicted
during
this
coveted
crisis.
N
So,
let's,
let's
just
go
through
these.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
take
action
per
se,
but
I
think
it
would
really
it
would
be
helpful
to
discuss
and
if
you
wouldn't,
would
you
go
through
them
I'll.
S
Start
at
the
broad
level,
and
then
I
think
I
have
both
the
director
of
the
commission
on
human
relations,
hopefully
in
the
waiting
area-
and
I
don't
know
that
he's
if
we
need
to
call
mr
hammond
he's
already
a
panelist.
N
S
Excuse
me
talking
out
loud,
so
so
in
the
draft
that
we
introduced
yesterday,
you
have
the
right,
basically
as
a
landlord
to
to
move
forward
right
and
not
be
in
violation
of
the
ordinance
if
there
is
conduct
that
presents
an
imminent
health
or
safety
threat
to
other
residents
or
inhabitants
or
property
staff
because
of
criminal
activity,
etc.
S
You
also
have
the
right
to.
S
It
says
we
can't
re
renew
a
lease,
but
what
we're
seeing
is
refuse
to
renew
lease.
What
we're
seeing
is
that
landlords
are
still
doing
that
and
that's
I.
We
feel
that
giving
it
a
pathway
in
the
city
through
the
commission
on
human
relations.
S
Is
to
interpret
right
when
there,
when
there
are
grievances
about
our
protections
on
rights.
They
I
don't.
I
I
maybe
mr
hammond,
would
say
judy
kate,
I'm
not
comfortable,
if
speaking
for
being
the
authority
on
on
that
role,
to
be
able
to
get
that
kind
of
certification
from
the
city
that
you're,
not
in
violation
of
our
ordinance,
because
that
will
give
legal
clarity
for
landlords
to
move
forward
in
magisterial
court.
S
So
I
think
this
is
important.
I've
heard
both
sides
right.
I
have
you-
and
I
have
talked
about
this
now
for
a
number
of
years,
but
just
for
the
listening
public
right.
We
both
represent
districts
where
there
are
just
a
very
high
level
of
small
holdings
landlords
residents
who
have
grandma's
house
next
door
who
have
tenants
in
them.
I
have
landlords
that
I
know
are
refusing
to
evict
their
tenants
for
non-payment
right
now
right.
I
know
they've
spoken
to
me
and
they've
said:
look.
S
I've
got
like
one
property,
and
I
know
my
line,
I'm
just
working
with
my
tenant.
I
know
my
tenant
campaign,
but
I'm
not
affecting
my
tenant,
and
I
I
don't
want
to.
I
want
to
promote
and
support
our
small
housing
landlords.
I
would
rather
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
have
be
rich
in
small
holding
landlords
and
not
be
dominated
by
large
real
estate
trusts
or
llcs.
S
The
way
other
cities
are-
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
powerful
part
of
our
housing
infrastructure,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
also
have
emails
and
phone
calls,
and
I
could
I
was
trying
to
find
one
to
read
to
you
that
I
just
I
think,
coincidentally,
got
yesterday
where
a
tenant
got,
and
I
noticed
that
the
rent
was
being
raised
three
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
then,
when
the
tenant
said,
it's
a
tenant,
who's
current
on
their
current
rent
and
when
the
landlord
said
well,
you
know
you're
going
to
be
terminated
at
the
end
of
your
lease
and
the
and
the
tenant
said
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
repairs
that
I've
been
complaining
about.
S
You
haven't
been
fixing
the
landlord
said.
Okay,
you
have
one
week
now,
of
course,
that
would
have
to
go
to
the
magisterial
courts
and
we
would
see
what
would
happen
there.
But
as
I
mentioned
yesterday,
I
do
think
we
have
well.
We
have
valid
cases
on
both
sides.
There
are
very
many
cases
where
landlords
are
evicting
unduly
and
that
this
legislation
would
help
to
close
up
the
language
that
is
lacking
in
the
both
district,
five
moratorium
language
and
certainly
in
the
cdc
language
as
it's
been
interpreted
here.
S
So
I
don't
think
I
can
speak
anymore
to
the
process
that
and
I
think
that
they,
the
the
people
that
we're
having
waiting
to
be
called
to
the
table,
if
you
want
to
call
them
to
the
table,
could
give
you
much
better
detail
than
I
could.
N
N
I
do
have
it
so
I
will
begin
I
I
will
skip
amendment
a
and
just
go
directly
to
to
b
that
no
landlord
may
take
action
to
cause
the
eviction
of
an
individual
or
household,
except
for
good
cause.
A
landlord
desiring
to
evict
an
individual
or
household
may
request
an
exemption
from
the
pittsburgh
commission
on
human
relations
upon
proof
of
any
of
the
following
and
then
number
one
would
be
for
non-payment
of
rent
and
utilities.
N
Unless
such
non-payment
was
due
to
substantial
loss
of
household
income
or
hours
of
work
or
wages
due
to
the
loss
of
employment
and
or
medical
expenses,
both
that
are
coveted,
related
illnesses
and
pre-existing
illnesses.
One
payment
failure
also
includes
late
fees,
penalties
or
interest
unrelated
to
the
aforementioned
reasons,
and
then
section
b
is
stricken.
N
N
Other
material
breach
of
the
lease
terms,
such
as
criminal
conduct
or
damage
to
the
property
or
other
compelling
bases
not
specifically
enumerated
herein,
which
breach
or
other
bases,
shall
be
strictly
scrutinized
to
ensure
that
the
negative
effects
of
a
residential
eviction
during
the
pandemic
are
mitigated
and
then
section
c.
No
landlord
can
refuse
to
review
a
lease
or
terminate
a
lease
due
to
previous
tenant
non-payment
or
lease
term
violations.
N
Section
d
is
also
amended.
The
pittsburgh
commission
on
human
relations
shall
develop
procedures
for
accepting
and
reviewing
requests
for
exemption
from
the
requirements
of
this
chapter
in
partnership
with
such
boards,
authorities
and
departments
of
the
city
and
non-governmental
entities,
as
it
finds
appropriate
and
then
section
e
speaks
to
fines
for
violation.
So
I
guess
councilwoman.
N
N
S
S
It
completely
goes
away
the
minute
we
don't
renew
our
declaration
of
emergency,
so
it's
really
important
to
to
just
make
the
public
understand
that
and
for
us
to
understand
that
this
is
not
a
permanent
capacity
that
would
be
assigning
to
the
already
to
the
work
burden
of
the
pittsburgh
commission
on
human
relations.
S
N
So
councilman
in
my
bad
I
should
have
scrolled
down
just
a
little
bit
further
and
then
I
could
have
read
that
it
does
sunset.
So
everyone
is
aware:
chapter
7
82
shall
expire
up
upon
termination
of
the
city's
disaster,
emergency
declaration
or
by
city
council's
legislative
termination.
Whichever
is
sooner
so
kind.
S
N
So
I
appreciate
the
interrogatory
just
to
sort
of
get
it
out
there
on
the
table.
Mr
chair,
I'm
going
to
step
back
and
listen
to
what
other
members
thoughts
are,
and
anyone
who
maybe
wish
to
to
call
to
the
table.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
would
you
permit
interrogatory
with
councilwoman
gross
as
well.
A
T
J
Thank
you.
I
did
want
to
circle
back
to
the
original
legislation,
because
I
had
some
questions
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
actually.
First.
First,
I
would
like
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
we
heard
in
public
comment
about
water
moratorium
and
water
shutoffs.
I
want
everyone
to
know
that
pwsa.
J
If
you
live
in
a
pwsa
service
area,
there
is
a
moratorium
on
water,
shutoffs,
water
termination
that
is
up
for
renewal
march
31st.
J
So
pwsa
is
working
day
and
night
to
contact
any
customer
who's
interviewers
water
bill,
your
water
will
not
be
shut
off,
but
there
are
a
multitude
of
programs
that
you
can
sign
up
for
customer
assistance
programs
and
the
number
is.
J
So
I
wanted
to
start
by
just
making
sure
that
if,
if
any
of
the
commenters
are
still
listening,
that
they
are
aware
of
that
program,
now
a
couple
of
the
concerns
that
we've
heard.
Actually
the
majority
of
concerns
we
heard
from
groups
who
are
individuals
who
are
in
favor
of
this
this
legislation
and
in
fact
the
amendment
were
about
it
being
self-effectuating.
J
There
were
concerns
about
that
and
my
read
of
it
shows
that
there's
language
in
there
that
says
that
this,
this
coveted
certification
of
coveted
related
hardship.
It
says
attendant
may,
and
this
is
not
actually
changed
in
the
amendment
either
a
tenant
may
or
may
not
present
to
a
court
of
competent
jurisdiction.
This
this
kind
of
proof
of
covet
hardship
and
to
me
that
gets
at
the
concern,
but
is
I
mean
councilwoman?
J
Is
that
your
understanding
too,
that
that
language
in
there
is
meant
to
get
at
this
concern
around
having
to
like
have
it
giving
the
tenant
the
burden
of
proof?
But
I
see
also
what
the
amendment
does
further
to
kind
of
flip
the
burden
of
proof
further.
S
What's
confusing
to
me
as
well,
I
was
first
concerned
that,
like
everyone
would
be
required
to
get
it
right,
but
what
I
again
I
went
back
over
with
mr
dame
wood.
He
was
helping
me
with
this
language
last
night
and
it's
only
in
case
they
are
actually
being
brought
into
court,
but
that
provides
the
problem
so
that,
if
someone
is
being
sued
for
eviction
that
then
they
would
have
to
kind
of
go
through
this
city
process
of
of
trying
to
certify
that
they
were
being
unjustly.
S
If
you
know
sought
for
eviction,
and
so
it's
just
be,
I
I
think
that
path
is
too
fuzzy
and-
and
it
isn't
spelled
out
as
a
as
a
on
our
side.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that?
S
So
I
I
I'm
not
sure
that
I
can
explain
it
any
more
clearly,
but
if
you
wanted
to
go
back
and
forth
again
with
mr
damewood,
who's
got
up
as
an
attorney
and
is
someone
who
has
it
specializes
in
housing,
law
and
eviction
law
he's
got
a
lot
more
experience
in
being
able
to
explain
how
specific
cases
would
be
different
than
do.
I,
okay.
J
S
I
mean
honestly
right-
we
haven't
done
this
before
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
this,
and
so
I
think
it's
an
entirely
legitimate
concern.
S
One
of
the
before
I
answer
that
one
of
the
additional
suggestions
from
our
law
department,
which
I
think
council
should
pursue
in
the
coming
weeks-
but
we
didn't
have
time
to
complete
this
week,
is
to
see
if
there
is
right
that
our
solicitor
should
be
doing
this
kind
of
diplomacy
with
the
district
five
courts.
In
fact,
there
have
been
conversations.
I've
spoken
to
judge
clark
in
in
a
in
a
meeting
setting
who
is
the
presiding,
the
president
judge
over
district
five
magisterial
courts.
S
I
know
our
solicitor
has
also
spoken
to,
or
I
think
director
powell
has
spoken
recently
to
judge
clark,
and
so
how
we
proceed
is
it's
still
to
be
solidified?
I
would
say
right,
but
that,
on
our
end,
I
think
it's
council's
responsibility
to
put
the
city
processes
in
this
ordinance
again
temporary
ordinance,
but
still
to
put
them
there
so
that
we
can
present
our
suggestion
for
moving
forward.
J
S
S
That
says,
like
you
know,
you
can't
legislate
what
the
courts
do,
but
because
we
are
all
in
a
once
in
a
100
year
pandemic
and
that
we
know
that
there
are
significant
public
health
risks
not
just
for
the
tenant,
though
we
don't
want
to
put
tenants
in
harms
and
put
them
out
on
the
street,
but
for
everyone
right,
you're,
going
into
more
crowded
housing
situations
or
you're
in
an
emergency
shelter
situation,
and
we
are
trying
to
slow
down
the
spread,
especially
at
this
moment
there
are
new
variants
out
on
the
streets
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
with
vaccines.
S
We
know
that
there
are
snafus
and
snags
and
it's
rolling
out
slowly.
So
it's
still
important
we're
not
through
this
emergency
in
this
pandemic,
get
it's
critically
important
that
we
do.
What
we
can
to
help
people
isolate
at
home,
which
means
they
have
to
have
a
home,
and
so
it
does
mean
working
together
with
the
other
bodies
of
government
and
trying
to
find
a
way
that
we
think
we
are
doing
staying
in
our
lane,
but
making
sure
that
we
provide
more
coverage.
J
It's
my
understanding
that
philadelphia
courts
have
ordered
a
much
broader
enforcement
over.
I
guess
a
rip
enforcement
of
a
stay
on
the
enforcement
of
nearly
all
rits
of
possession,
I'm
not
totally
clear
about
that
language,
but
what
that
indicates
to
me
is
that
that
is
much
more,
a
much
more
stringent
stay
on
any
kind
of
addiction,
more
than
allegheny
county,
so
to
the
extent
that
we
can
impact
change
at
that
level,
I
think
it's
really
important,
but
I'm
going
to
leave
my
questions
at
that
for
now.
J
I
do
have
other
questions
that
I'd
like
to
address.
I
I
would
like
chief
powell
and
mr
hammett
director
hammond
and
perhaps
mr
daimler
to
address,
but
I
would
like
other
council
members
to
get
their
questions
in
first.
A
Q
Okay,
so
again
I
signed
on
yesterday
with
councilwoman
gross's
bill
and
I
really
applaud
her
for
fighting
for
the
people
who
are
most
in
need.
Q
Q
You
know
he's
not
one
to
throw
anybody
out
on
the
street
just
because
they're
not
paying
rent,
even
if
we
weren't
in
an
emergency
crisis,
but
he
said
to
me,
you
know
anthony
I'm
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
have
property
taxes
that
are
due
and
struggling
with
his
own
bills.
So
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
to
know
you
know
exactly
what
the
federal
government's
going
to
be
allocating
and
how
they
can
recover
that
money.
Q
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
anybody
who
can
possibly
help
me
answer
that
question.
So
I
can
give
him
an
answer.
You
know
because
there
are
two
sides
of
it.
Of
course
you
know
there
are
bad
landlords
and
there
are
bad
tenants
as
well.
You
know
so
where's
the
fine
line.
I
guess
when
a
landlord
is
counting
on
that
rent
to
pay
his
or
her
own
bills
and
the
process
as
to
how
they
can
recover
it,
or
do
we
have
a
guarantee
from
the
government?
I'm
just
not
quite
sure
myself.
S
So
I
just
I
I
will
just
respond
a
little
bit
from
it
and
and
then
I
think
we
may
have
people
on
the
line
who
can
answer
again
in
more
detail
than
I
can.
But
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
we've
already
put
millions
into
that
system
right.
S
As
you
see,
we've
allocated
all
of
our
cares
money
to
the
array
and
I'll
remind
you
that
those
kind
of
thousand
or
more
tenants
that
got
cash
assistance,
those
went
to
rent
payments
and
then
in
the
county
system,
the
dollars,
don't
even
don't
go
through
the
tenant
they
go
straight
to
the
landlord
and
that
we
recently
allocated
a
new
8.9
million.
S
That
will
go.
I
as
I
believe,
but
we
should
check
with
the
people
here
on
the
call
that
who
are
literally
creating
the
program
like
director
powell,
that
those
will
go
also
straight
to
landlords,
and
so
when
you
call
the
kind
of
like
rent
help
by
a
phone
number
or
email,
maybe
somebody
can
put
it
in
front
of
my
screen
for
the
website
that
those
applications
will
be
opening
within
a
few
weeks
right.
S
I
think
we
have
the
dollars
in
hands,
but
not
the
application
process,
and
so
and
if
there
is
additional
federal
aid
that
that
will
be
going
to
making
landlords
hold
on
cash
right,
so
I
think
we're
we're
doing
a
lot
on
making
landlords
whole,
but
where
I
I
feel,
according
to
the
testimony
and
the
briefings
that
I've
gotten,
that
we
could
do
doing
more
at
protecting
the
tenants
who
are
vulnerable,
and
so
that's
where
we
are
today,
but
I
think
either
director
powell
or
bob
damod
who's
waiting.
S
If
you
wanted
to
get
their
perspective
on
kind
of
like
how
those
systems
are
being
developed,
they
have
a
a
closer
daily
eye
on.
If
your
co-week,
we
allowed
them
to
have
a
cooperative
agreement
with
the
county
and
they're,
creating
the
systems
and
the
actual
like
websites
and
applications.
Director
powell
save
me
yeah.
U
No
worries
really
quickly.
You
know
to
the
concerns
of
your
constituent.
This
new
pot
of
money
will
be
able
to
reach
landlords
for
back
and
forward
rent.
So
you
know
in
this
particular
instance
where
they
are
owed.
U
You
know
what
was
it
10
months
of
rent
they'll
be
able
to
apply
for
that
there,
and
so,
with
this
system,
we've
been
very
careful
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
resource
navigators
as
well,
making
sure
that
for
folks
who
may
have
difficulty
getting
access
to
this
funds,
who
may
have
language
barriers
or
even
transportation
barriers
to
getting
you
know
to
some
of
the
drop-in
centers
that
we
have
that
we're
addressing
those
you'll
be
able
to
utilize
a
online
platform
as
well
as
a
call-in
number,
as
well
as
some
drop-in
center.
U
So
we
tried
to
make
this.
You
know
as
accessible
as
possible,
because
we
know
people
are
desperately
in
need
of
funds
and
it'll
be
again
available
to
landlords
to
make
sure
that
they're
also
made
whole
as
well.
Q
And
director
powell,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work.
I
know
you
were
very
involved
with
council.
One
councilwoman
rose
on
this
moratorium
bill,
so
the
federal
government
is
not
guaranteed,
though
now
you
say
they
can
apply
for
what
they
are
in
the
rares
and
whatever
may
come
their
way
in
the
future.
Q
So
federal
money
is
not
guaranteed
at
this
point.
Is
that
correct
to
help.
U
So
it's
it's
coming.
We
are
hoping
we're
still
getting
everything
in
place.
Obviously
the
feds
will
will
you
know,
act
as
they
act,
and
so
we're
hoping
for
march
that
that
money
to
be
dropped
but
we're
getting
our
systems
in
place
now
in
pittsburgh,
so
that
when
it
is
when
the
money
finally
clears
in
the
bank
will
be
able
to
move
quickly.
S
Q
U
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
send
program
guidelines.
You
know
for
the
folks
that
are
putting
those
together,
I'm
happy
to
send
those
over
to
you
and
the
rest
of
council,
so
that
they're,
you
know
clear
and
when
we're
able
to
kind
of
get
them
out
to
the
public
or
we're
again
able
to
do
that
quickly.
But
the
idea
is
to
make
sure
that
again
folks
who
you
know
especially
have
been
just
trying
to
keep
people
housed
during
the
pandemic.
U
People
who
might
have
taken
a
hit
personally,
like
your
constituent,
are
able
to
be
made
whole
and.
L
V
U
For
tenants
who
you
know,
have
been
out
of
work
or
have
had
hardships
that
made
it
hard
to
pay
rent,
but
they're
also
taken
care
of
as
well,
but
happy
to
send
you
a
little
more
specificity
when.
Q
U
Q
Q
I
tend
to
go
on
the
compassionate
side,
as
ms
gross
is,
you
know
so
vigorously
pursued
here,
breaks
my
heart
to
think
about
anybody
kicked
out
of
their
house
and
the
caller
said
it
yesterday.
Well
whether
you're
a
good
tenant
or
a
bad
tenant,
nobody
should
be
kicked
out
of
you
know
their
home,
and
especially
during
these
times,
so
so
I
am
supportive
of
it.
Q
You
know
with
the
new
amendments
I
will
admit
I
did
not
look
closely
at
those
just
yet,
but
but
I
will-
and
you
know
my
district
surprisingly
well,
not
surprisingly,
I
guess,
but
you
know,
I
think
I
had
the
highest
number
of
folks
who
you
know
are
behind
on
their
rent
and
you
know
in
jeopardy
of
being
forced
out
of
their
homes.
Q
So
anybody
listening
in
my
district,
I
would
like
to
act
as
an
arbitrator
between
the
landlord
and
the
tenant
if
possible-
and
you
know
thanks
for
you-
know,
explaining
a
little
bit
better.
So
I
can
explain
to
both
sides,
especially
the
landlords
I'm
getting
calls
from
who
are
counting
on
their
rent,
to
be
paid
as
to
how
they
can
retrieve
that
so,
okay,
that's
it
for
me.
Q
L
Thank
you
councilman.
I
just
I
was
sending
you
some
text
messages
asking
some
some
questions
about
how
we
should
handle
this,
because
I've
just
seen
these
amendments,
I'm
still
going
over
them
myself.
Have
we
heard
from
the
law
department
on
on
any
of
these
from
our
law
department.
S
L
See
the
one
who
told
you
that
harrisburg
and
and
the
things
that
they've
they
just
told
their
courts
just
to
do
is
either
one
because.
S
L
L
Thank
you,
chief,
pumpkin
or
anthony
could
want
to
answer
that
question.
L
W
So
from
the
legal
side
of
things,
the
law
department
has
not
construed
or
rendered
or
opined
on
these
amendments.
At
this
point,
if
council
would
like
an
opinion
on
these
amendments
or
the
bill,
we're
happy
to
provide
a
a
written
opinion
to
counsel
that
would
be
protected
by
the
attorney-client
privilege.
L
Can
I
just
say
that's
the
problem.
I
understand
that
and
I
think
that
maybe
we
should
do
an
executive
session.
Maybe
we
should
recess
this
meeting
and
have
one,
but
I
understand
that
there's
concerns,
but
I
think
part
of
the
problem
is
we
hear
from
law
and
then
we
can't
share
that
with
the
public
or
we
or
we
can't
share
a
written
form
with
the
public.
So
it
gets.
L
You
know
it
gets
conf
a
lot
of
confusion
in
the
translation,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
you
know
we
are
trying
to
find
out
find
some
solutions.
Here
we
are
working
with
the
administration.
The
administration
wants
to
find
some
solutions,
but
we
can't
keep
comparing
ourselves
to
cities
that
we,
we
don't
have
the
same
authority
to
enact
with
the
things
the
way
the
way
they
do.
L
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
do
something,
and
I
do
remember
they
were
talking
a
little
bit
about,
and
I-
and
I
know
somebody
quoted
me
wrong
about
this
with
the
with
the
police,
but
they
were
saying
that
maybe
we
could
stop
the
police
from
issuing
the
the
notices
or
something
it
was
something
to
that
effect,
but
they
were
going
to
delve
into
it
a
little
bit
more,
but
we
hadn't
heard
anymore.
So
I
just
wasn't
sure
where
that
was.
L
But
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
working
on
them
and
when
you,
when
I
say
I
have
concerns,
I
have
concerns
because
I
was
insured
in
this
past
weekend
and
several
residents
called
on
a
phone
and
even
approached
mayor
peduto,
because
he
was
in
sheridan
too,
and
he
they
approached
both
of
us
and
were
talking
about
their
concerns
with
this,
and
they
were.
One
person
was
saying
that
he
was
in
a
relationship.
L
It
didn't
work
out
with
the
with
the
gentleman
he
was
in
the
relationship
with
he
moved
out
so
that
he
could
move
in
just
or
so
he
could
stay
there.
Just
we
found
housing,
but
he
can't
not
get
him
out
of
the
house.
It's
been
over
a
year
he's
actually
renting
rooms
in
this
gentleman's
house,
and
yet
he
has
no
recourse
and
so
we're
trying
to
work
with
him
through
those
issues.
L
L
So
so
I
have
concerns
for
those
people,
and
then
today
we
heard
from
this
woman
from
esplan
that
lives
in
councilman
wilson's
area,
but
has
property
in
escrow,
and
I
do
realize
those
are
some
of
the
exceptions
and
but
there
are
a
lot
more
people
that
are
struggling
and
trying
to
stay
in
their
homes,
and
so
I
want
to
help
those
people
too.
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
some
way
we
can
help
both
there's
all
more.
L
I
don't
want
to
make
another
victim
or
for
me
to
decide
who
should
be
evicted
and
who
shouldn't
or
who
should
lose
a
home
and
who
shouldn't.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
helping
all
people-
and
you
know
we
say
we
want
to
help
people
saying
we
want
to
do
it
and
still
making
additional
victims-
is
not
helping
people
it's
making
additional
victims.
It's
us
deciding
who
who's
going
to
have
be
a
victim
and
who's
not,
and
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
L
A
Thank
you
other
members,
first
round.
A
Councilman
burgess
for
first
of
all,
you
can
add
me
to
a
co-sponsor
of
this
legislation.
R
First
of
all,
I
am
always
interested
in
protecting
people
from
heart,
and
certainly
evicting
them
from
their
homes
in
winter,
during
kovic
would
cause
them
harm.
I
do
want
to
make.
I
do
think
we
need
to
be
aware
of
an
incongruency
that
I
want
to
lift
up.
I
find
these
I've
had
these.
I
have
these
interesting
things
that
I
find
incongruent.
R
I
won't
call
them
hypocrisy
yet,
but
they're
incongruent.
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
it's
interesting
that
we're
building
new,
affordable
housing
in
homewood
right.
R
There
was
a
group
of
homeowners
who
bought
their
houses
with
50
subsidy
right
there,
their
homeowners,
but
their
houses
were
subsidized
by
the
city
somewhere
between
40
to
50
of
the
work.
So
you
know
second
defers
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
They
got
subsidies,
yet
those
homeowners
who
got
their
houses
with
subsidies
opposed
building,
renting,
affordable
housing
to
the
same
kind
of
people
because
of
subsidy
right.
R
I
find
it
in
in
this
moment
kind
of
again
that
same
kind
of
incongruency
right.
We
have
these
whole
these,
these
landlords,
who
won't
take
vouchers
who
discriminate
by
income
from
tenants
who
do
not
want
tenants
who
get
assistance
to
live
in
their
houses,
and
we
know
they
use
it
as
we
we
I
mean
we're
all
adults
and
no,
that
actually
is
a
form
of
racism.
That's
really
why
they
do
it
because
they
don't
want
black
people
living
and
they're
afraid
that
vouchers
will
mean
black
people,
and
so
they
do
it.
R
So
they
don't
have
not
all.
But
there
is
a
that's
a
consistency.
You
know,
we've
seen
that
you
know
from
large
renters
there's
been
multiple
studies
about
large
vendors
discriminating
as
black
people.
I
find
it
interesting
that
these
same
landlords
are
so
willing
and
are
so
quick
to
want
this
federal
these
federal
dollars
to
make
up
their
losses
when
they
won't
take
on
the
front
end
the
same
federal
dollars
in
the
form
of
vouchers.
R
I
just
find
it
I'm
not
making
a
conclusion.
I
just
find
it
that
we're
in
that
income-
that's
incongruent
to
me.
It
seems
to
me
that
vote
should
be
true,
that
they
should
be
willing
to
take
vouchers
on
the
front
end,
so
that
people
who
have
vouchers
can
live
in
clean,
decent,
affordable
housing,
that's
money
guaranteed
by
the
federal
government,
and
they
also
should
be
able
to
get
resources
when
kovic,
also
from
the
federal
government.
On
the
back
end,
I
I
just
and
again
I
I
find
that
that
again,
I
don't
call
it
hypocritical.
R
I
have
found
that
I'm
learning
to
call
it
interesting,
incongruencies,
and
so
again
this
is
good.
What
we're
doing
absolutely
should
do
it.
The
federal
government
should
help
them,
I'm
just
suggesting
to
them
and
to
everyone
who
listened
that,
in
addition
to
this,
we
should
also
be
willing
to
accept
the
money
on
the
front
end,
which
is
the
same
federal
money.
Same
federal
dollars
allow
these
renters
to
use
their
vouchers.
As
everyone
know,
this
council
passed
anti
source
of
income
discrimination.
R
Source
of
you
know,
source
of
income
and
it
got
struck
down
by
state
in
in
terms
of
court,
but
it's
still
the
right
thing,
and
I
think
this
is
the
time
you
know
it
was
up
to
me.
I'm
not
king
of
the
world,
so
I'll.
I
and
again
I
don't
have
this
right,
but
I
I
would
say
if
I
was
in
charge
of
the
program
and
I
had
the
power
to
do
it.
R
If
you
didn't
take
vouchers,
you
would
not
get
a
dollar
of
this
money
because
I
think
that
you've
already
decided
you
don't
want
federal
dollars.
Fine,
that's
right!
You
don't
want
federal
dollars,
don't
take
it
and
you
shouldn't.
You
know
you
shouldn't
get
it
on
the
back
end
when
you
have
denied
it.
You've
denied
renting
to
people
who
had
the
resources
to
pay
for
the
apartment,
but
you
didn't
want
that
type
of
income
on
the
front
end.
So
I'm
just
again,
that's
just
my
own
thinking.
R
I
I'll
call
it
an
interesting
incongruency,
and
so
when
both
are
true
right,
we
should
help
them.
But
I'm
also
using
this
as
the
moment
for
them
to
take
an
introspective
look
at
themselves
and
say
you
know
what
you
know
both
are
true
right.
I
it
you
know,
I
I
just
find.
I
find
it
interesting.
It's
interesting.
I
I've
been
interested
with
people
who
are
fiercely
pro-life,
they're,
also
pro-death
penalty.
I
that's
an
interesting
incongruency
right,
it's
it's!
R
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
and
so
I
I
just
think
that
people
should
be
consistent
in
their
worldview
and
so
anyway,
let
me
stop
talking,
but
that
again
I'm
asking
to
be
a
co-sponsor.
I'm
supportive,
councilwoman
gross,
has
done
a
great
job
in
leading
this,
and
so
to
the
extent
you
want
my
help.
You
probably
don't
I
mean
don't
need
my
help,
but
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
the
idea.
R
You
know
I'm
always
in
the
protecting
the
people
mode
and-
and
I
just
find
it,
though
I
find
these
landlords
wanting
to
suck
up
this
federal
money
at
this
time,
interesting
when
they
are
unwilling
to
take
the
same
dollars
to
allow
black
brown
people
to
live
in
their
apartments,
primarily
not
disproportionately,
not
completely,
but
we
know
vouchers
are
disproportionately
used
by
black
and
brown
people
and
so
by
not
taking
vouchers
you're.
Also
just
you're
also
refusing
disproportionately
black
and
brown
people
to
live
in
your
housing.
A
A
I
also
think
the
point
you
make
and
there
is
a
case
a
legal
case,
given
the
paid
sick
leave
ruling
for
us
to
go
back
to
court
as
you're
well
aware
for
source
of
income
legislation
and
also
think
that
this
time
in
accepting
the
federal
dollars
also
may
potentially
help
with
another
legal
argument
of
why
they
should
have
to
accept
these
dollars
for
source
of
income,
but
that's
a
whole
nother
fight
that
we'll
absolutely
have
my
two
questions.
I
think
they're
directed
at
chief.
U
X
Sure,
thanks
director
pal
hi,
there
is
no
dollar
cap
for
the
funding.
There
is
a
cap
in
terms
of
the
period
of
time
that
they
can
receive
the
assistance.
So
it's
I
think
of
it.
In
three
month,
increments
people
have
to
be
recertified
every
three
months
in
terms
of
when
that
they
still
qualify.
So
you
know
it's
12
months
maximum
with
the
three
month
extension
possible.
X
It
can
go
back
to
april
first
of
2020..
It
can't
go
before
that
because
it
has
to
be
connected
to
no
hardships
related
to
covet
and
that
that
was
mid
march.
So,
but
it
can
address
back,
rent
rental
rental
careers,
I
should
say,
and
forward
rent
so
we're
actually
in
the
midst
of,
we
just
got
some
guidance
from
the
treasury
department.
Finally,
the
day
before
yesterday,
some
guidance
and
we're
working
closely
with
the
county
to
set
up
some
policies
and
procedures
for
the
program
as
we
speak.
X
So
it's
kind
of
a
moving.
It's
very
much
a
fast-moving
train
at
this
point,
but
there's
8.9
million
that
the
city's
been
provided
but
from
the
treasury
department
and
then
roughly
27
million
from
the
county
and
and
then
we're
anticipating
another
44
million
roughly
from
the
state
for
the
programs,
so
stay
tuned.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
You
answered
my
question,
which
was
also
answering
my
second
question,
which
was:
could
landlords
try
to
acquire
what
wasn't
paid
pre-pay
endemic,
because
one
of
the
complaints
that
you've
that
we've
heard
and
I've
heard
directly
at
least
from
some-
is
that
there
were
individuals
who
were
not
paying
their
rent
before
the
pandemic
hit
and
then
once
the
pandemic
hit.
We
then
put
the
moratorium
in
place,
thus
that
it
just
continued
to
add
up
and
so
they're
looking
to
figure
out.
A
How
can
they
go
back
and
deal
with
that
issue
as
well,
which
I
believe,
unfortunately,
is
in
many
respects
mean,
while
we're
absolutely
doing
the
right
thing
right
now,
absolutely
for
some
we're,
also
sort
of
preventing
which
will
at
some
point
be
a
rush
to
the
courts.
Once
a
declaration
is
released
and
I
just
think
we
all
need
to
collectively
think
through
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
how?
What
sort
of
impact
that's
going
to
have
it's
just
because
we're
pushing
down
the
inevitable
for
some.
A
Unfortunately,
any
other
members
for
second
round.
N
Yeah,
thank
you,
deputy
director,
at
deputy
chief
powell.
How
are
you
we'll
get
your
title
right
sooner
or
later
good
morning?
Thank
you
for
being
here.
I
I
don't
want
it
to
get
lost
in
the
conversation
that
the
council
does
not
appreciate
the
efforts
of
mayor
peduto
and
yourself
in
assisting
working
with
the
council
collectively
in
crafting
this
legislation
and
submitting
it
to
council
and
I'm
afraid
that
has
kind
of
gotten
lost,
and
I
don't
want
that
to
be.
N
S
N
Mr
chair,
if
you'll
permit
again
interrogatory,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
should
either
I
in
fact
I
think
I
may
even
be
taking
a
more
cautious
approach,
a
councilwoman
and
saying
that
we
should
pass
today
as
presented
because
I'm
more,
I
don't
want
us
to
get
caught
up
in.
N
Do
un
on.
I
can't
think
of
the
word
or
what
you.
N
We
don't
want
to,
we
don't
want
to
harm
by
delaying
in
any
way.
So
I
I
think
where
I'm
actually
going
with
this
is
that
we
really
should
should
pass
what
we
have
all
agreed
upon
and
then
we
can
come.
I
mean
we
have
the
power
of
the
council.
We
can
come
back.
You
know
tomorrow
night,
if
necessary,
you
know
and
us
assemble,
to
amend
in
any
way
that
we
seem
as
to
think
is
going
to
be
beneficial
to
to
the
passage
of
the
legislation.
N
So
I
just
I'm
worried
that
we
don't
take
action
today
on
what
we
already
can
all
clearly
agree
upon
and
and
and
delay
any
process,
because
this
is
an
urgent
situation.
So,
but
it
you
know
so,
deputy
chief
powell
have
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
them.
I'm
not
look!
I'm
not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot
anyway,
yeah,
okay,
so
I
guess
more
than
anything
my
my
remarks
really
were
to
to
share
appreciation
of
the
council
for
the
mayor,
peduto
and
the
administration's
willingness
to
work
with
us.
N
I
know
their
desire
is
as
strong
as
our
desire
to
to
see
this
work
and
make
this
work,
and
I
I
guess
for
the
members
that
are
here
just
to
reiterate.
My
initial
concern
is
that
we
strike
a
balance.
I
think
councilman
coghill
has
referenced,
that
I
believe
each
member
that
has
spoken
this
morning
actually
has
referenced
a
desire
to
strike
a
balance,
and
we
don't
want
to
leave
behind
our
good
landlords
that
so
many
of
us
have.
N
I
I
know
that
third
council
district,
we
have
far
exceeded
the
50
rental
property
market,
and
I
know
any
number
of
our
landlords
are
good
landlords.
I
don't
want
to
harm
in
any
way.
At
the
same
time,
we
have
we're
duty-bound
to
to
be
compassionate
and
to
make
certain
that
people
are
not
evicted
at
as
councilman
gross
says
this
once
in
a
hundred
year,
global
pandemic.
N
So
if
you
know
if
the
council
is
willing
to
continue
discussion,
I
certainly
will
step
aside
and
allow
to
continue.
But
I
think
where
I
am
right
now
is
that
we
absolutely
should
pass
what
we
have
all
agreed
today
and
and
take
the
amendments
under
consideration.
For
further
examination,
and
if
they
prove
to
be
the
right
direction,
then
absolutely
I
will
support.
N
A
You
thank
you,
president
smith,
and
then
councilman
coghill.
L
Thank
you
so
much
councilman.
I
I
love
I
like
what
everyone's
comments
I'd
like
to
some
of
the
comments
made,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
also
don't
want
to
delay
the
help
that
that's
needed.
You
know
weeks
ago,
so
I'm
even
okay.
L
If
we
amend
and
vote
on
the
amendments
and
then
take
the
week
before
final
action
next
week
to
commit
to
everyone
working
on
this
together
and
coming
up
with
amendments
that
are
making
any
type
of
amendments
to
the
amendments
to
the
to
the
final
to
the
final
package
that
we
can
do
over
the
next
few
days,
I'm
okay
with
that
too.
L
I
just
what
I
don't
want
to
see
is
us
not
passing
something
where
we
can
help
people
now,
but
they
also
want
us
to
consider
that
there's
a
lot
of
other
unintended
consequences
of
harming
people
that
we
don't
want
to
harm
them
either.
We
just
and
a
lot
of
people
are
not
big
time,
landlords
and-
and
I
know
that
there's
there's
different
levels-
there's
more
concerns
with
others
that
are,
there
are
larger
developers
and
larger
landlords.
L
I
understand
that,
but
yeah
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know
small-time
landlords
in
our
district,
and
I
know
lin's
heroin
in
our
area
does
all
he
can
to
keep
properties.
You
know
beautifully
maintained
and
renovated
and
sheridan,
and
you
know
he's
and
he's,
but
at
the
same
time
and
keep
them
affordable,
but
at
the
same
time
he
can't
afford
to
not
have
rent
either.
So
I
just
I
just
want.
I
don't
want
to
help.
T
L
There's
some
way
that
we
can
vote
today
with
amendments,
I'm
okay
with
that,
whatever
the
council
decides,
but
I
think
that
we
could
take
the
next
week
to
make
a
commit
to
commit
to
working
on
what
a
final
plan
looks
like
where
the
final
draft
looks
like
and
with
the
law
department
and
their
approval
night.
And
mr
daimwood,
who
we
know,
has
been
passionate
about
this
issue
for
a
very
long
time.
Q
Q
Q
I
guess
I
just
simple
question
is:
has
the
process
for
applicants
for
the
landlord
for
landlords
to
put
their
applications
in
to
get
refunded
or
you
know,
reimbursed?
Has
that
started
yet
or
no.
J
J
That
I
don't
think
has
been
addressed
around
you
know.
Who,
who
are
we
helping
here?
Who
will
be
hurting?
Are
we
picking
losers,
picking
and
choosing
winners
and
losers,
which
is
that
I
know
that
that
anyone
can
probably
paint
a
picture,
a
sympathetic
picture
of
a
smaller.
You
know,
what's
called
a
mom-and-pop
landlord
property
owner
that
has
some
serious
cash
flow
issues
because
of
non-payment
from
their
tenants
and
that
they
might
be
in
you
know,
a
really
bad
state,
but
the
most
vulnerable.
J
The
very
most
vulnerable
are
the
tenants
because
they
are
at
risk
of
losing
their
homes
and
if
they
lose
their
homes.
That
is
a
serious
health
and
safety
concern
that
can
then,
and,
as
we
know,
it's
much
more
expensive
to
you
know
to
address
someone
who
is
houseless
than
to
keep
them
in
their
home
and
work
with
them
in
that
state
being
without
a
home
can
can
result
in
a
spiral
of.
J
I
don't
have
to
tell
anyone
to
hear
that
that
can
result
in
a
spiral
of
of
of
various
health
and
safety
issues
that
perpetuate
again
and
again
again.
So
I
understand
that
there
are
property
owners
who
are
in
a
really
difficult
situation
as
well,
and
I'm
sure
that
you
know
you
could
hear
stories
and
stories
and
stories,
and
you
know
that
sympathetic
to
their
situation,
but
I'm
interested
in
helping
the
most
vulnerable
and
those
are
people
who
could
lose
their
homes.
J
I
guess
my
first
question
is
for
anyone,
whether
that's
whitney,
whether
that's
for
chief
powell,
about
the
actual
8.9
million
that
council
voted
to
allocate
in
addition
to
the
counties
and
the
last
time
we
asked.
I
don't
think
we
got
an
answer
to
the
question.
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
clarity
over
the
the
county's
amount
is
something
like
28
million.
They
have
to
allocate
to
this
and
we
only
have
about
8
million.
J
Do
we
know
yet
whether
if
we
exceed
the
number
that,
if
the
need
exceeds
8.9
million
in
the
city
by
city
residents,
would
city
residents
then
be
able
to
access
some
of
the
county
funds?
Is
that
going
to
be
fixed
into
the
same
pod
and
look
fungible?
Do
we
know
that?
Yet
we
didn't
know
that
last
time.
X
Correct
this
is
whitney
with
omb.
That
is
correct,
so
the
county
funds
will
be
for
city
residents
right
both
city
and
county,
the
we're
trying
to
structure
it
so
that,
in
terms
of
accountability,
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
account
for
the
8.9
million.
You
know
the
city
is
receiving,
but
in
the
sense
of
the
actual
person
who's
trying
to
access
these
resources.
X
They're
not
going
to
know
the
difference.
Difference
between
whether
or
not
the
funds
are
coming
from
the
city
or
the
county.
It'll
be
you
know,
seamless
for
them,
hopefully
through
this
process
so
and
then
in
the
44
million
that
we're
hoping
comes
from
the
state
as
well
it'll
be
the
same
situation.
It'll
come
to
the
county,
and
that
will
be
you
know
for
city
residents
as
well.
For
both
does
that
help
to
answer
your
question.
J
Yes,
so
we're
not
restricted
city
residents
will
not
be
restricted
by
the
8.9
million
that
city
council
approved.
They
will
have
access
to
funds
greater
than
that
correct.
Okay,
great,
that's
good.
To
know,
that's
helpful,
to
be
aware
of
a
second
question
I
guess
is
for
mr
damwood.
If
he's
willing
to
come
on.
J
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
all
your
work,
I'm
looking
through
I
mean
I
did
read
the
amendment
the
proposed
amendments,
but
looking
through
the
amendment
summary
and
I
had
a
question
about
one
aspect,
which
is
failure,
failure
to
prevent
evictions
due
to
lease
expiration,
which
says
that
the
bill
is
written,
fails
to
prohibit
evictions
based
on
end
of
lease
term
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
J
As
I
go
back
to
the
original
bill
as
drafted,
there
is
a
section
that
says
no
landlord
can
refuse
to
renew
or
release
renew
a
lease
or
terminate
us
at
least
due
to
previous
tenant
non-payment
or
lease
term
violation,
which
is
then
in
the
proposed
amendment,
moved
to
just
a
different
section
of
the
bill.
So
I'm
wondering
what
actual
actually
is
the
change
in
this
proposed
amendment
when
it
comes
to,
because
I
know
that
that's
the
biggest
thing
we're
worried
about
as
march
31st
arrives
or
approaches
is,
is
just
non-renewal
of
leases.
V
Correct
so
the
the
legislation
that
was
voted
on
yesterday
it
contains
that
clause
that
says
a
landlord
may
not
refuse
to
renew
a
lease,
but
there's
there's
two
issues
with
that.
One
is
the
condition:
there's
a
subjective
condition
may
not
refuse
to
renew
a
lease
for
certain
reasons
right
and
it's
unclear
who
makes
that
determination,
but
the
other.
V
The
other
issue
is
that
that
renewal,
that
a
landlord
may
not
refuse
to
renew
that
you
know,
protects
tenants
who's
who
have
existing
leases
that
are
not
up
for
renewal.
Yet
that
haven't
expired,
yet
it
doesn't
help
tenants
whose
leases
have
already
expired
and
are
already
in
the
system
you
mentioned
earlier
about
tenants
that
have
judgments
for
possession
entered
against
them
already.
V
There's
hundreds
of
tenants
that
that
are
in
that
situation,
if
a
tenant
has
a
judgment
for
possession
entered
against
them
for
end
of
lease
term
for
holding
over
after
the
expiration
of
an
end
of
the
lease
term,
you
know
that
is
who
needs
to
be
protected
in
you
know,
through
a
moratorium
right
now,
there's
nothing
that
would
that
will
protect
tenants
in
that
situation,
and
you
know
the
cdc
order.
V
Doesn't
because
that's
been
interpreted
as
only
applying
to
evictions
for
non-payment
of
rent
that
are
related,
you
know
where
the
where
the
tenant
delivers
a
a
declaration
that
the
non-payment
is
due
to
you
know
substantial
income
loss
due
to
coven.
You
know
so
so
right
now,
it's
the
it's.
Those
tenants
who
have
judgments
for
possession
entered
against
them,
many
for
end
of
lease
term
that
need
the
protection
and
the
existing
language
just
prohibiting
landlords.
J
V
Oh
well,
I
can
answer
that
really
quickly
if
it's
okay,
so
so
what
the
what
the
amendments
would
do
is
it
would
provide
an
across-the-board
moratorium.
No
landlord
may
evict,
except
for
good
cause,
and
then
it
defines
what
good
cause
is.
Expiration
of
lease
term
is
not
defined
as
good
cause
in
in
the
amendments,
and
so
what
it
would
do
is,
it
would
add
certainty
to
to
the
process,
so
landlords
would
know
whether
they
were
covered
or
they
would
have.
V
They
would
be
able
to
find
out
by
appealing
to
a
city
agency,
to
determine
whether
they
are
covered,
whether
an
election,
an
eviction
may
go
forward
or
not
right.
Now,.
V
Non-Profit
tenants,
as
well
as
our
nonprofit
landlords,
as
well
as
tenant
associations
and
right
now,
if
a
client
of
mine
asked
me
whether
they
could
evict
for
you
know
not
for
some
of
the
some
of
the
instances
that
landlords
testified
to
today
about
tenants,
not
you
know
paying
rent
for
the
last
year
and
they
you
know,
landlords
feel
that
they
can
pay
the
rent
they're
just
they're.
Just
refusing
to.
V
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
answer
that,
whether
you
know
that
situation
would
be
covered
under
this
ordinance
as
written,
but
by
by
mending
the
ordinance
by
applying
the
moratorium
across
the
board
and
then
designating
an
agency
to
consider
landlord
applications
to
determine
whether
they
are
exempt
or
covered
by
the
ordinance.
That
adds
some
some
predictability.
J
J
Thank
you,
so
I
guess
we'll
direct
a
previous
question
to
you.
I
have
no
doubt
that
the
commission
on
human
relations
and
the
has
the
talent
and
the
ability
to
to
to
develop
these
policies
and
to
be
able
to
do
that
very
quickly
during
this
time.
So
I
don't
doubt
why
you
chose
them,
but
I
I
wonder
if
you
can
help
me
understand
if
you
know
if
something
then
does
get
to
a
like,
it
goes
to
court.
J
This
actually
does
go
to
court
and
they
have
whatever
sort
of
ruling
came
down
from
chr.
What
will
they
do
with
that?
Will
they
do
I
mean?
Do
you
have
a
theory
as
to
what
they
will
do
with
that?
It
does
seem
like
this
is
a
bit
of
advocacy
in
the
way
that
we're
approaching
it,
but
is
there
a
precedent
for
that
anywhere
else?
I
mean,
I
know,
because
we're
not
really
equivalent
to
what
we're
doing
in
harrisburg
or
in
philadelphia.
So.
V
Well,
actually-
and
that's
that's
a
very
good
question,
actually
you
know
harrisburg
does
not
control
their
court
system
as
councilman
kale
smith,
you
know
asked
earlier,
you
know
so
philadelphia
has
its
own
court
system.
Harrisburg
is
within
dauphin
county.
You
know
just
like
we're
within
allegheny
county
and-
and
you
know,
the
the
courts
are
within
the
state
unified
judicial
system,
but
at
the
at
the
county
level
of
county
jurisdiction.
So
you
know
pittsburgh
can't
really.
You
know.
V
Pittsburgh
doesn't
control
allegheny
county
courts
any
more
than
harrisburg
controls,
dauphin
county
courts,
and
so
you
know
in
in
the
in
the
first
section
the
the
section
of
the
ordinance
that
that
talks
about
the
declaration
of
covet
hardship
or
the
certification
of
code
hardship
and
what
the
courts
you
know
the
tenants
can
can
submit
that
in
a
court
and
how
the
courts
should
treat
that.
That
is
really,
I
think,
of
the
court
rules
to
determine
you
know.
W
V
That's
enacted,
I
think
it's
really
up
to
allegheny
county
courts,
to
issue
to
consider
that
and
decide
whether
they
want
to
issue
local
rules
to
to
implement
that.
But
the
remaining
provisions
really
speak
to
the
conduct
of
landlords.
They,
you
know
they
speak
to
the
conduct
of
people
who
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
So
if
a
landlord
has
a
judgment
for
possession
that
they've
gotten
from
the
court,
can
they
execute?
V
Can
they
take
that
step
to
request
in
order
for
possession
and
the
constable
to
come
and
lock
somebody
out
right?
That
is
a
landlord
action
and
the
city
has
jurisdiction
over
the
conduct
of
landlords
in
deciding
whether
to
take
that
action.
That's
what
you.
V
Of
harrisburg
did
you
know
and
that's
what
the
that's,
what
that
section
of
of
the
ordinance
really
is
directed
at
it's
not.
J
I'm
here
hi.
Thank
you.
I
again,
as
I
just
stated
before,
I
have
no
doubt
of
your
your
talent,
your
ability,
your
your
whole
team's
ability
to
to
do
what
is
instructed
in
this
proposed
amendment,
which
is
to
develop
procedures
for
accepting
and
reviewing
requests
for
exemption
from
the
requirements
of
this
chapter
in
partnership
with
such
boards,
authorities
and
departments
of
the
city
and
non-governmental
entities
as
it
finds
appropriate.
My
question
is:
do
you
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
this?
Y
That's
a
very
good
question,
so
that
is
part
of
why
there's
this
this
part
in
the
the
proposed
amendment
about
with
the
partnership
of
boards
and
authorities
and
and
other
entities
that
are
non-governmental.
I
would
say
you
know
actually,
from
the
commission's
standpoint.
Y
You
know
there
was
a
question:
where
does
our
authority
come
from
in
the
city
charter?
We
can
be
assigned
to
enforce
any
law
ordinance,
so
if
it
were
put
into
an
ordinance,
we
could
be
in
charge
of
assigning
it
or
in
charge
of
answering
that
enforcement
question,
but
our
commission
is
focused
on
fair
housing.
So
it's
that's
one
aspect
of
what
could
be
an
eviction.
It
could
be
a
discriminatory
eviction,
that's
where
we
have
our
expertise,
but
there
are
other
areas
of
eviction.
Y
Many
many
that
I
think
we
would
need
additional
expertise
to
address.
So
I
think
that
and
then
again
to
your
question
in
terms
of
our
staff
capacity,
specifically,
of
course,
you'll.
Y
Remember
a
few
months
ago
we
had
a
conversation
about
the
the
budget
and
how
the
city
council
had
given
us
new
powers
under
city
code
to
address
police
matters,
and
we
had
requested
an
additional
investigator
and
we
were
denied
in
the
budget,
and
then
it
turns
out
that
we
will
also
have
to
lose
another
position
in
july,
potentially
so
as
far
as
capacity
having
lost
a
position
and
then
in
the
position
of
losing
another
one,
I'm
not
sure
that
staff
capacity
is
necessarily
there.
Y
What
we
would
need
to
do
to
address
this
would
be
to
rely
on
outside
expertise,
to
bolster
both
our
ability
to
address
questions
that
are
not
fair
housing
questions
and
to
actually
process
any
of
these
applications
for
the
ability
to
evict.
I
think
there's
another
question
too,
that
hasn't
necessarily
been
brought
up.
That
does
speak
to
capacity,
which
is
liability.
Y
Some
people
have
kind
of
addressed
that
there
are
two
sides
of
this
equation:
the
landlords.
So
the
question
is:
what
happens
then?
If
a
landlord,
like
imagine
this
amendment
comes
to
be,
the
commission
and
its
partners
have
created
a
criteria
and
the
criteria
rules
that
a
landlord
did
not
pass
this
just
cause
threshold
and
the
landlord
says.
Well,
I
disagree
with
that.
What
is
that
person's
recourse
and
then
speaking
of
liability?
Y
Who
is
the
person
that
is
who
is
responding
to
this
statement
of
you
know?
I
disagree
with
that?
Is
it
the
commission
itself
with
its
own
solicitor,
because
what
I
will
say
about
that
is,
we
are
limited
also
in
our
solicitor
funding
in
our
social
capacity.
Y
Is
it
the
city
that's
responding
to
this,
and
if
it
is
the
city
again
to
a
question
that
that
people
have
raised
several
times?
How
has
the
law
department
been
involved
in
in
this
idea,
because
we
would
need
to
have
their
buy-in
if
they
would
then
be
asked
to
to
defend
a
decision
like
that?
Y
So
I'm
not
sure
that
that
capacity
of
addressing
the
liability
of
a
landlord
who
says
I
was
I
was
wrongly
decided
against-
currently
exists
because
this
program
doesn't
exist
yet
so
a
lot
of
things
need
to
be
built
out.
I
will
say
this
is
not
me
saying
that
the
commission
is
against
any
part
of
this
and
that
you
know
we
want
to
be
part
of
this
solution
if
it
comes
to
be.
J
Thank
you
for
all
of
that
makes
sense,
and
we
need
to
marshal
our
resources
from
all
over
right
to
be
able
to
make
this
a
success.
So
I
I
agree
with
what
others
have
said.
I'd
like
to
take.
J
I
would
like
something
to
pass
today,
but
I
think
there
are
many
more
conversations
we
need
to
have
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
law
department,
but
I
understand
that
we
don't
have.
It
probably
would
be
best
to
meet
an
executive
session
and
and
also
chief
powell.
So
I
you
know
many
more
discussions
to
come.
I'm
really
grateful
to
councilwoman
gross
and
everyone
who's
worked
on
this
chief
powell.
Everyone
who's
worked
on
this
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction,
just
a
few
more
answers
to
get.
S
S
This
is
and
thank
you
for
to
mr
damewood
and
to
mr
hammond
for
being
able
to
articulate
those
things
more
clearly
than
I
could
well.
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
take
an
opportunity
to
hear
back
and
kind
of
I
was
briefed
on
this,
but
I
wasn't
really
able
to
get
it
out
in
our
opening
comments.
S
On
top
of
that,
we
clarify
by
adding
in
the
commission
on
human
relations,
we
clarify
and
assign
those
conversations
with
landlords
who
have
grievances
to
try
to
give
them
a
pathway
to
see
whether
their
grievance
is
covered
under
the
ordinance,
and
so
it's
both
things.
It
kind
of
spoke
to
the
one,
but
that
second
one.
S
I
think
I
really
understand
more
clearly
now
that
we
we
protect
more
people
from
getting
into
the
pipeline,
but
then
the
new
language
also
protects
the
people
who
are
so
close
to
actually
being
forced
out
of
their
homes
and
our
the
first
draft
of
the
legislation
does
not.
So
that's
what
I
heard
and
I'm
gonna.
I
guess
I'll
defer
to
mr
dainwater,
mr
hammond.
If
they
want
to
confirm
that,
that's
what
I
heard
them
say.
Q
I
have
to
run
I'd
like
to
buy
votes
for
the
remaining
bills
on
this
one
and
the
rest,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get.
A
V
To
quickly
answer
your
question
councilwoman,
the
way
I
read
the
legislation
is
that
people
who
have
judgments
for
possession
against
them
already
are
potentially
covered
under
the
current
language,
but
it's
unclear
because
there's
subjective
determinations
that
need
to
be
made
and
there's
nobody
appointed
to
make
those
determinations
right.
So.
T
V
The
coverage
is
potentially
there,
it's
just
not
clearly
there,
and
so
the
proposed
amendments
would
would
clarify
you
know
who
is
covered
and
and
give
both
landlords
and
tenants
the
ability
to.
V
Over
over
that
question,.
S
N
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
So
I
appreciate
the
the
discussion
today.
It's
been
very
helpful
and
certainly
enlightening
for
me.
I
think
we
can
collectively
say
we
all
agree
on
where
we
want
to
be,
and
I
think
we
just
need
a
few
technical
changes
to
achieve
that
goal
that
we
set
for
ourselves.
N
I
I
still
am
of
the
mindset
to
pass,
as
is
today
so
as
to
not
take
action
which
is
imperative
that
we
do
and
then,
if
we
wish
to
enter
into
executive
session
to
clarify
with
law
what
would
be
the
very
best
verbage
that
we
could
use
to
ensure
that
we
protect
existing
judgments
as
well
as
landlords
and
other
precautions
that
members
have
voiced
today,
then
we
clearly
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that
and
to
do
that
correctly
in
time
for
the
final
vote.
N
N
A
Thank
you
so
councilwoman
gross
as
the
sponsor
as
the
primary
sponsor.
If
I'm
hearing
everyone
correctly,
it's
let's
vote
what
we
have.
Let's
work:
let's
go
into
executive
session
tomorrow,
friday
or
monday,
work
through
the
issues
and
then
provide
a
final
amendment
for
tuesday.
S
I
am
comfortable,
I'm
sorry,
but
I
I
did
hear
both
sides,
so
it
would
be
so
much
easier
right
now
if
we
were
in
chambers
and
could
be
like
kind
of
talking
and
looking
at
each
other
a
little
more
easily.
S
Wouldn't
it
when
these
kinds
of
really
big
things,
we're
trying
to
move
quickly
happen,
we're
missing
all
of
the
kind
of
sidebars
and
body
cues
that
we
often
we
are
able
to
do
in
chambers
that
we
can't
do
here,
because
I
did
hear
some
members
as
we
went
around
say
we
could
do
both
we
could
actually
amend.
We
could
change
our
mind
about
the
language
so
that
we
could
do
final
amendments
at
the
table.
We
could
have
with
both
briefings
and
executive
session
since
it's
wednesday
and
we
had
the
remainder
of
the
week.
S
L
S
I
appreciate
that
I
mean
if
members
are
willing.
I
say
then,
let's
just
pass
it,
because
we
still
have
the
final
vote
where
we
can,
let's
just
a
motion
to
amend
and
then
we
have
that
language
to
work
with
instead
of
having
really
no
language
on
the
table
in
front
of
us,
if
we
don't
amend,
we
don't
have
that
language
on
the
table.
R
Quickly,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
the
amendments
without
being
without
them
being
vented
through
the
law
department.
I'm
just
I
again.
I
just
got
them
this
morning.
I
don't
know
where
they're
at
I
am.
I
am,
and
I
have
to
you
know,
leave
too,
but
I
am
willing
to
pass
this
bill
as
is
right
now
and
then
we
can
work
privately
on.
I
think
that
you
know
councilman
krauss's
way
forward
is
the
way
I
agree
with
that.
We
pass
this,
as
is
we
all
agree
with
this.
R
Let's
pass
this,
as
is:
let's
weigh
let's
work
this
week
together
on
amendments.
If
we
can't
come
to
conclusion,
we
have
forever
to
make
amendments,
but
let's
pass
since
we
have
something
that
we
can
all
agree
with.
Let's
pass
this
now
and
move
forward
and
then
work
on
amendments
over
the
next
week
next
year
next
month,
as
long
as
it
takes
so
that's
that's
my
personal
preference.
A
N
S
I
agree,
I
agree,
I
don't
think
we
have
the
you
know
not
being
in.
F
S
And
being
trying
to
remote
recess
would
be
would
be
difficult,
so
we
will
be
scheduling,
executive
sessions
that
we
can
make
sure
we
can
all
be
at
as
quickly
as
possible
and
again
we
can
also
additionally
have
briefings
for
staff
on
stuff
that
isn't
from
the
law
department
directly,
because
I
feel
like
there's
still.
This
is
still
a
lot
to
be
comfortable
with,
and
so
it's
it'd
be
helpful
to
have
assistance,
so
we
can
try
to
parse
out
after
we're
done
what
part
can
be
done
in
briefings?
A
I
A
J
Chair,
I
I
meant
to
do
this
before
I
before
we
actually
voted.
Would
it
be
too
late
to
add
my
name
as
a
co-sponsor
as
well?
I
think
we're
probably
going
to
end
up
with
nine
co-sponsors,
but
I
would
like
to
after
this
discussion
today
I
feel
better
about
you
know
about.
I
just
feel
clearer
about
it.
So
thank
you.
E
A
All
right,
thank
you
all.
Where
are
we
okay
bill
1182
still
under
land
use
and
economic
development.
I
N
Thank
you,
so
I'm
actually
going
to
motion
to
table
this
bill.
I
have
had
a
discussion
with
whitney
finstrom
about
the
reallocation
of
these
funds
from
south
side
athletic
association
to
brashear.
That
is
not
a
necessary
reallocation,
so
I
just
didn't
want
members
to
think
that
we
had
not
worked
through
this
and
discussed
it
as
so
that
that
is
what
brought
me
to
motion
to
table
the
bill
today.
N
B
M
A
Thank
you.
You
got
that
part,
so
the
bill
the
bill
is
table
thanks.
Everybody
new
papers,
bill,
1207.,.
M
1207
resolution
amending
resolution
number
262
of
2018
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
city
planning
to
accept
a
46
000
grant
award
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources
to
support
the
development
of
the
hill
district
parks
master
plan
and
to
combine
this
funding
with
the
previously
budgeted.
Sixty
thousand
dollar
city
match
to
enter
into
contract,
to
hire
a
consultant
groundswell
design
group
inc
to
develop
affirmation
master
plan
with
a
total
contract
value.
T
S
A
I
just
want
to
thank
director
dash
chief
gilman
and
many
others
for
moving
this
through
the
process
as
quickly
as
possible.
Thank
you
all
yeah.
Thank
you.
Any
other
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
K
M
Bill
1208
resolution
further
amendment
resolution
of
the
authority
of
2019
entitled
resolution
adopting
and
approving
the
2020
capital
budget
and
the
2020
cdbg
program
in
the
2020
through
2025
capital
improvement
program,
so
as
to
identify
specific
projects
in
city
council,
district
7
and
authorize
a
subsequent
agreement
for
operation,
administrative
expenses,
maintenance,
purchase
of
equipment
and
or
rehabilitation
of
neighborhood
facilities.
On
behalf
of
the
residents.
S
A
M
Bill
1193
resolution
providing
for
an
amended
lease
agreement
for
the
use
of
the
west
end
senior
center
located
at
80
wabash
street
and
for
the
provision
of
center
services
to
seniors
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
seventy
45
dollars
and
sixty
four
cents
chargeable
two
and
payable
from
the
senior
community
program
trust
fund
in
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation.
The
city
is
in
the
process
of
purchasing
80
wabash
street
from
the
property
owner
smith
and
bowen,
and
will
continue
to
pay
rent
as
authorized
here
under
until
transaction
is
completed.
A
L
Mr
chair,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
administration.
This
is
a
building.
It's
the
healthy
active
living
center
in
the
west
end,
which
serves
a
lot
of
our
district,
and
I
want
to
thank
director,
chapman
and
the
administration.
They
are
purchasing
this
building,
and
this
is
just
to
get
us
through
that
process.
It's
my
understanding
and
director
chapman.
If
you
want
to
say
something.
O
N
O
We've
been
working
on
this
for
a
while.
It
helps
with
the
senior
program
trust
fund,
so
we
don't
have
to
allocate
financial
resources
from
that
trust
fund.
We
can
use
that
money
to
program
and
it's
in
a
city's
best
interest
to
acquire
this
property,
because
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
just
the
senior
center.
So
it
seems
like
it's
a
win-win.
It's
just
taking
a
little
longer,
so
we'll
keep
paying
rent
until
the
city
acquires
the
property.
So
thanks
for
your
support
to
council
presidents.
L
Yeah
and
if
people
re,
if
people
recall
this
is
where
we
did
one
of
our
food
distributions
for
almost
a
month
they'll,
you
allowed
us
to
use
that
building
for
the
community
and
it
was
really.
L
It
was
very
helpful
with
the
parking
lot
and
handicap
accessibility,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
it,
but
it
was
really
important
to
the
residents
of
the
west
end
communities,
including
west
end,
proper
eliot,
mount
washington
other
places
where
banksville,
where
people
come
to
that
center
from
all
over
the
area,
because
it's
a
convenient
location,
so
it
was
really
important.
The
residents
did
not
want
to
lose
it,
they
loved
jolie
there
and
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
she
they
were.
L
T
A
Can
you
pose
bill
is
recommended
that
takes
us
to
intergovernment
affairs
committee
chaired
by
councilwoman
gross
first
new
paper
bill
1198.
M
Bill
1198
resolution
adopting
the
planned
revisions
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
official
school
facilities
plan
for
the
bahamas,
phase
2
project,
which
will
involve
the
development
of
198
multi-unit
apartment
complex
with
associated
indoor
amenities,
as
well
as
a
leasing
office.
The
site
address
is
5536
bomb
boulevard
in
the
eighth
ward.
N
S
But
I'm
still
kind
of
double
checking
on
this
one.
So
I'm
going
to
let
this
one
go
through
and
if,
with
your
indulgence,
I
might
have
more
information
on
tuesday
but
appreciate
it.
A
S
Service
motion
to
approve
it,
no
discussion
most
interpret.
J
M
Bill
1201
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
human
resources
and
civil
service
to
enter
into
an
inter
governmental
corporation
agreement
with
the
county
of
allegheny
and
partner
for
work
for
the
shared
operation
and
administration
of
the
2021,
learn
and
earn
summer
youth
employment
program
and
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
one
million.
Five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
N
S
I'll
say,
I'm
supportive.
I
know
that
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
last
year,
while
we
were
in
covet
and
about
how
these
things
would
be
executed.
I
mean,
if
members
want
to,
you
know,
ask
after
today
provide
provisional
vote
and
then
we
could
have
you
know,
revisions
or
concerns
addressed
on
tuesday.
That's
fine
with
me,
but
I'm
going
to
hold
any
any
more
detailed
diving
today.
I
appreciate.
N
Director,
can
we
just
give
you
the?
Could
you
give
us
just
the
the
short
version.
Z
Manuel
director
of
human
resources
and
civil
service,
the
2021
platform
will
emulate
the
2020
platform.
We
know
that
last
year,
due
to
covet
19,
that
there
was
a
dual
process
of
in-person
and
online,
there
were
over
1900
eligible
applicants.
All
100
percent
of
those
eligible
applicants
were
placed.
Z
So
that
is
the
good
thing
we
are
going
to
follow
the
same
process
as
for
2021
as
we
did
for
2020,
and
that
is
to
have
the
two
aspects
one
will
be
online
and
then
they
will
also
have
the
ability
for
the
youth
to
be
in
person
and
on
site,
of
course,
following
the
same
processes.
That
are
that
everyone
must
adhere
to
adhere
to
regarding
covet
19
mask
wearing
social,
distancing,
etc.
Z
But
the
platform
with
the
ipads
or
the
small
computers
and
everything
will
still
be
the
same
as
it
was
described
in
2020.
N
A
A
Excuse
me
on
tuesday
and
wednesday
march,
2nd
and
3rd
at
10
a.m,
respectively,
to
register
to
speak
at
the
council
meetings.
Please
fill
out
the
sign
up
form
in
its
entirety
on
the
council
meeting
schedule.
Webpage
registration
deadlines
are
9
a.m,
the
day
of
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings.
You
may
also
register
to
speak
by
calling
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138.