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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee
meeting
for
a
wednesday
september,
29
2021.
council
will
continue
to
meet
in
hybrid
format
until
further
notice.
We
encourage
speakers
to
continue,
registering
and
speaking
virtually
as
there
will
be
limited
numbers
of
seat
available
in
council
chambers.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted.
A
B
B
B
B
I
would
also
continue
to
urge
city
council
to
be
mindful
of
their
oath,
taken
to
the
people,
to
support,
protect
and
defend
the
constitution
of
the
united
states
of
america,
as
stated
in
your
home
rule
charter,
and
I
urge
you
to
be
more
sensitive
to
the
needs
of
indigenous
people
who
are
here
in
this
very
so-called
city
of
pittsburgh.
Just
don't
identify
it
as
such,
but
we
are
here,
and
so
we
also
are
a
marginalized
group
of
people
and
I'm
going
to
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
because
my
child
needs
me.
C
Shady
trees,
not
shady
deals
in
bonaire.
For
decades,
the
pittsburgh
board
of
education
has
taxed
spent
wasted
and
harmed
the
people
who
pay
these
taxes.
This
current
board
and
superintendent
are
even
more
unethical
and
non-compliant
with
policy.
Do
the
courts
have
to
be
further
clogged
and
more
money
squandered
to
get
criminal
and
negligent
actions
reversed?
C
If
the
people
who
make
detrimental
decisions
and
actions
pay
for
those
choices,
they
may
mend
their
ways.
The
opportunity
is
now
for
correcting
course,
harming
a
part
of
the
city
hurts
the
whole
every
family
that
leaves
the
city
is
another
lost
chance
to
build
and
sustain
property
building
on
strength
means
no
need
to
build
back
better.
C
C
C
C
D
Dr
ronald
and
miller
belts
over
the
hill
this
weekend,
I
invite
you
to
engage
with
me
in
street
debates
center
and
kirkpatrick
being
the
focus
global
intelligence
society,
candidate
for
mayor
pittsburgh,
2021
global
intelligence
fuses,
a
minimum
of
the
forms
of
reasoning
or
intelligence
of
the
21
primary
disciplines.
D
In
the
early
2000s,
I
became
a
member
of
the
american
society
for
microbiology
and
the
genetic
society
of
america
and
since
2010,
I
have
urged
this
council
to
pass
legislation
to
control
and
also
to
assist
in
bio
genetic
research
in
this
city.
A
concern
of
pittsburgh
city
council
is
planning
for
the
future
of
the
city.
D
The
past
provides
information,
often
conflicting
for
forming
intelligent
interpretations
or
estimates
of
what
has
happened.
The
present
is
non-existent
even
at
an
ato
second
precision.
It
is
a
vapor.
The
future
is
indeterminate
action,
vectors
that
are
founded
on
probabilities
of
near
infinite,
multiple
possibilities
now
counselors.
What
is
your
100
year
plan,
and
I
think
that
every
mayoral
candidate
should
have
a
future
century
plan
I
do
and
on
a
biological
genetic
vector.
My
plan
for
pittsburgh
includes
adaptive
protocols
and
procedures
that
should
be
encoded
in
ordinances.
D
D
E
E
At
the
request
of
walnut
capital,
our
intent
in
circulating
the
petition
was
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
residents,
stakeholders
and
community
organizations,
both
in
oakland
and
in
other
parts
of
pittsburgh,
to
discuss
with
council
the
process
by
which
this
zoning
bill
has
been
introduced
and
is
to
be
considered.
There
are
many
people
who
signed
our
petition,
who
are
also
interested
in
commenting
on
the
content
of
the
bill.
E
Instead
of
insisting
that
the
review
take
place
as
part
of
the
oakland
plan
process
sets
a
bad
precedent
for
communities
all
over
the
city,
and
it
is
that
issue
that
we
are
hoping
you
will
allow
us
to
talk
with
you
about
before
you
send
the
bill
to
the
planning
commission.
We
ask
that
you
table
the
bill
before
you
today
until
a
public
hearing
can
be
scheduled
so
that
all
members
of
the
committee
can
adequately
consider
the
implications
of
following
through
on
this
process
before
starting
the
planning
commission's
clock.
Thank
you.
F
I
am
a
member
of
the
iroquois
confederacy
of
aboriginal
american
people,
I'm
the
medicine
woman.
I
am
the
healer
for
our
people
for
indigenous
people
for
aboriginal
people,
and
I
want
to
be
clear.
Our
position
on
covey
and
what
the
united
nations
and
american
declaration
on
the
rights
of
indigenous
people
have
to
say
about
indigenous
people
as
it
relates
to
covet.
Yet
indigenous
people
are
seeking
our
own
solutions
to
this
pandemic.
F
There
is
parcels
of
the
land
that
we
are
seeking
to
obtain
for
our
very
own
reasons
of
protecting
ourselves
and
our
future
span
generations,
as
it
relates
to
covet
and
sealing
off
particular
territories
for
us
so
that
we
may
be
safe.
F
We
do
not
adhere
to
the
policies
and
the
executive
orders
and
the
mandates
that
citizens
have
to
adhere
to
underneath
the
united
states
contractual
agreement
that
they
have
as
being
citizens.
We
are
distinct
people.
We
are
our
own
nation.
We
are
the
founders
of
your
nation.
We
are
the
founders
of
the
constitution
and
when
you
study
your
own
history-
and
you
should,
as
municipal
officers,
you
will
come
to
know
who
we
are.
F
We
have
made
peace
with
your
people,
bringing
you
here
and
allowing
you
to
come
here
running
from
tyranny.
Now
it
is
your
obligation
as
congress,
as
stated
in
house
congress
331,
that
you
have
a
debt
responsibility
to
the
utmost,
respect
and
care
to
the
aboriginal
people.
So
we
look
forward
to
continuing
our
government
to
government
meetings
so
that
we
can
begin
to
discuss
territories
so
that
we
may
protect
ourselves
through
this
cove
pandemic
and
I
yield.
A
I
saw
miss
jennings
with
us
previously,
but
I
do
not
see
her
now.
Are
there
any
further
speakers
and
chambers?
One
is
wishing
to
speak
before
council?
If
so,
please
come
forward.
G
G
There
was
scheduled
city
council
meeting.
I
took
the
bus
and
came
down
and
was
told
at
the
front
at
the
chambers
door
that
there
was
no
council
council
meeting
all
of
the
nsa
went
to
his
funeral.
Now
I
mean
I
was
really
upset
because
I
was
spending
money
to
come
down
here.
We
were
not
notified.
Indians
made
the
decision
to
do
that.
I
was
so
upset.
I
went
to
petite
he's
dead
now
that
was
mr
ervis's
assistant,
and
I
said
to
mr
pratik:
that's
oscar
petit's
brother,
I
said.
G
Would
mr
irvins
want
city
council
to
go
to
his
funeral
or
come
to
city
council
and
take
care
of
business,
and
he
said
mrs
brown,
mr
ervis
would
have
wanted
jim's
council
people
to
take
care
of
the
city
business
and
not
go
to
his
funeral
now.
If
you
could
go
to
his
funeral,
you
thought
that
much
of
this
man,
I
want
you
to
help
us
that
live
in
his
building,
that
he
fought
for
us
poor
people
to
live
at
in
kaylee
where
ervis.
G
I
think
that
here
are
some
of
the
reasons
that
shows
that
management
has
little
regard
for
the
safety
of
our
of
us.
The
residents
I'm
one
of
the
residents
up
there,
so
is
my
husband
having
us
at
the
security
person
on
staff,
helps
us
to
deter
persons
with
bad
intentions
and
help
in
metal
and
get
help
in
medical
situations
that
may
arise,
and
it
gives
us
residents
a
sense
of
feeling
safe.
G
G
The
situation
to
please
call.
A
A
A
J
Your
1894
resolution
amending
resolution
345,
which
authorized
the
mayor
and
the
city
solicitor
to
enter
into
a
professional
services
agreement
with
fox
rothschild
llp
for
professional,
consulting
and
legal
services
in
relation
to
false
claim
act.
Litigation
by
increasing
the
total
spend
by
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
not
to
exceed
amount
of
two
hundred
and
ninety
five
thousand
dollars.
A
M
M
M
A
A
J
A
N
N
This
for
the
movies
in
the
park
right
now,
it's
a
17
000
warrant,
but
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
it
if
it
was
one
of
the
ones
that
special
events
or
parks
and
rec
did
to
hold
outdoor
movies
during
covet
and
just
give
them
credit
for
being
creative.
But
I'm
not
sure
that
this
is
this
one.
They
can't
tell.
I.
N
O
A
A
L
K
A
A
A
A
L
A
J
1928
resolution
amending
resolution
number
259
entitled
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
directors
department
of
public
works
to
apply
for
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources,
community
conservation
partnerships
program
to
provide
funding
for
renovation
to
the
southside
park.
To
add
language,
to
allow
the
city
to
accept
the
grant
award
and
spend
the
funds.
K
K
And
they're
just
doing
amazing
things
and
everything
that
we
can
do
to
assist
with
things
like
grant
monies
and
and
and
special
allocations
for
them
to
do
their
work,
I'm
all
about,
so
I
just
want
to
give
them
a
shout
out
say
thank
you
and
thank
members
for
supporting
this.
Thank
you,
president.
A
M
K
A
J
Bill
1744
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
public
works
to
enter
into
a
lease
agreement
with
the
phillips,
conservatory
and
botanical
garden
for
the
city
facility,
known
the
garden
center
for
a
period
of
10
years.
An
annual
rental
fee
of
one
dollar
per
year.
With
the
possibility
of
renewal
motion
to
approve.
A
J
M
J
H
M
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
administration
and
all
my
colleagues
for
working
with
me
on
on
a
lot
of
the
things
on
grandview
avenue.
As
I
talk
about
this
in
many
times,
and
I've
taken
congressman
doyle
senator
fontana,
our
representatives,
all
up
to
grandview
avenue
more
than
once
and
on
regardless
roadway
to
see
some
of
the
issues
that
we
have
and
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
in
repairing
that
roadway.
M
It's
actually
probably
going
to
take
more
like
40
million
dollars
to
fix
grandview
avenue,
but
this
is
definitely
a
start,
and
I
want
to
thank
congressman
doyle
and
his
team
and
senator
fontana
for
being
such
strong
advocates
for
our
district.
They
help.
You
know,
I
hear
people
talk
a
lot
of
times,
I'm
just
going
to
say
this.
M
A
lot
of
times
about
you
know,
change
and
doing
things
differently,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
grateful
for
the
seniority
and
the
leadership
that
we
have
on
the
state
and
federal
level,
with
some
of
the
most
respected
senior
members
of
congress
and
of
senate,
and
I
just
I'm
I'm
very
extremely
grateful
for
the
work
that
they
do.
M
Not
just
in
my
district,
but
I
see
them
trying
and
struggling
to
get
things
all
the
time
and
if
they
can't
do
it,
nobody
can,
and
so
I
just
I
you,
we
just
see
that
they're
doing
a
lot
of
great
things
and
the
administration
works
extremely
well
with
them,
and
I
think
we
all
know
now,
especially
those
of
us
who
have
been
on
council
for
a
while
that
to
get
anything
done,
you
have
to
work
together
and
collaboratively
and
you
have
to
have
a
mayor
that
has
good
relationships
with
the
state
and
federal
level,
and
so
I
just
really
want
to
thank
them
for
their
for
their
help
with
all
this
work,
but
I'm
really
excited
for
grandview
avenue.
M
I
think
sometimes
you
hear
people
talking
about,
as
I
mentioned,
about
change
where
things
don't
happen
before
an
election,
and
I
remember
this
was
a
big
piece
that
people
talked
about
during
my
campaign
and
it
makes
me
want
to
say
to
people
don't
just
listen
to,
because
there's
always
going
to
be
something
not
done.
We
are
not
miracle
workers,
we're
elected
officials,
there's
not
enough
money.
You
don't
pay
enough
taxes
to
do
all
the
things
that
people
want
done.
I
would
love
to
see
us
to
be
able
to
do
everything.
Why?
M
Wouldn't
we
want
to
do
everything?
Why
won't
we
want
to
succeed,
but
people
will
use
that
and
exploit
that
and
exploit
the
the
fact
that
people
don't
know
any
better
or
don't
know
what's
going
on,
don't
know
that
we're
waiting
for
a
grant
and
can't
speak
up,
don't
know
that
we
can't
tell
you
what
we're
doing,
because
it's
not
solidified
yet,
but
that
we
are
working.
M
You
know
really
hard
on
it,
but
the
administration
has
also
worked
extremely
hard
on
grandview
avenue
and
we've
gotten
more
done
in
on
that
stretch
of
road
than
under
this
administration
than
we
have
in
decades,
and
so
I
just
really
want
to
acknowledge
that
they
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
don't
always
get
the
credit
that
they
deserve
as
well.
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
because
this
was
definitely
a
joint
effort
with
everyone.
So,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
for
all
the
work
you
did
on
grandview
and
in
district
2..
Thank
you.
A
Any
councilman
coghill,
yes,.
P
No
well
said,
madam
president,
you
know
and
the
safety
improvements
that
you
had
put
up
on
grandview
avenue.
I
know
you
got
a
lot
of
flack
for
that
at
first,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
has
slowed
things
down
from
somebody
who's
up
there
on
a
regular
basis.
It's
much
safer
can.
M
I
say
something
just
in
response:
I
get
a
lot
of
flack
on
social
media
in
person
and
on
in
telephone
calls
and
emails.
We
get
a
lot
of
compliments
and
a
lot
of
accolades
for
the
work
that's
being
done
there
and
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
people
like
to
exploit
stuff
so
right.
P
No
doubt,
but
but
that
definitely
has
improved
safety
up
there
and,
as
far
as
you
know,
the
landside
issue,
I
don't
think
pj
mcgarrell
roadway,
you
look
at.
I
mean
it's
really
not
meant
to
carve
a
road
in
the
side
of
a
cliff
like
that.
But
when
you
look
up
on
that
hill
as
you're
going
down,
it's
pretty
scary
so
and
people
got
to
realize
it
costs
a
lot
of
money,
and
I
echo
your
thoughts
on
congressman
doyle
and
state
senator
fontana.
M
P
A
J
M
K
G
N
You
can
we
have
a
little
bit
of
discussion
on
this.
Could
we
have
someone
explaining
these
expanded
definitions.
A
Q
Yourself
for
the
public-
oh
I'm
sorry
acting
director
kim
lucas
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
so
the
language.
The
primary
change
here
is
that
previously,
when
we
wanted
to
go
in
and
repair
sidewalks,
the
language
said
that
we
shall
find
the
property
owner
that
was
adjacent
to
the
sidewalk
that
we
had
hoped
to
repair
and
we're
requesting
that
we
change
that
language
to
may
find
that
individual.
We
don't
want
to.
Q
And
so
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
when
they're
that
we
are
not
causing
greater
hardship,
especially
in
communities
that
have
lower
incomes
by
making
repairs
and
then
having
to
impose
fines
on
them.
When
the
department
goes
out
and
makes
repairs
part
of
larger
projects,
especially.
N
Well,
I
commend
you
for
bringing
this
language
forward.
I
think
that
is
the
right
and
just
thing
to
do,
and
certainly
there
is
a
lot
of
fixing
to
be
done
out
there
in
terms
of
sidewalks
around
the
city
and
we
all
I'm
sure
you
get
the
complaints
from
people
who
are
you'll
find
unsafe,
sidewalks,
some
of
the
time
it's
actually
city
property,
but
in
the
case
where
it's
not
city
property
and
we
need
to
make
pairs
repair
so
there's
safe
passage.
I
think
I'm
absolutely
supportive
that
we
do
seth.
P
Hello
kim,
is
it
kim
yup
hi
kim
this
is
councilman
anthony
coghill.
While
I
have
you
here,
I
have
my
staff
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
you
today
to
discuss
some
lines
that
were
painted
up
on
brookline
boulevard,
yellow
lines.
You
know,
I
imagine
that
comes
from
domey
and
there
was
a
line
painted
in
front
of
a
couple
businesses
that
had
been
metered
parking
for
40
years
and
I
really
need
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it.
P
Q
M
Q
Absolutely
so
my
apologies
everyone
for
a
little
bit
of
confusion
at
the
beginning
of
the
call,
but
my
name
is
kim
lucas.
I
have
been
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
for
two
years.
This
week
I
have
been
serving
as
the
assistant
director
for
planning
policy
and
permitting
up
until
11
59
pm
on
friday
last
friday,
where
I
have
moved
into
the
acting
director
position
for
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure.
A
Any
further
discussion,
if
not
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
bill
is
recommended
before
we
leave
this
committee.
I
went
a
little
too
fast
and
forgot.
Councilman
strasberger
actually
wanted
to
hold
a
bill
for
one
week
with
the
phipps
conservatory.
So
could
we
go
back
to
bill
1744
and
councilwoman
strasberger?
If
you
want
to
make
a
motion
to
reconsider.
R
A
Weeks,
sorry,
second,
it
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
aye
aye
three
weeks.
Sorry
about
that.
That
now
moves
us
to
our
human
resources
committee
chaired
by
councilman
krauss
one
bill
bill,
1900.
J
Bill
1900
resolution
providing
for
providing
the
authorization
to
make
all
legitimate
expenditures
for
payments
and
agreements
with
various
agencies
to
provide
job
development
and
employment
services,
wages
and
french
benefits
for
supervisor
staff,
worker
compensation,
unemployment,
compensation,
vocational
skills,
training
and
on-the-job
training,
outreach,
recruitment
costs
and
administrative
expenditures
necessary
to
implement
the
2021
pittsburgh
partnership
employment
program
and
providing
the
periodic
transfer
of
funds
to
be
used
in
the
2021
pittsburgh
partnership.
Employment
program
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
150
000.
K
K
M
A
L
And
I
have
a
motion
to
amend
this
was
sent
over
by
the
administration.
A
R
Thank
you.
I
did
see
the
amendments
come
through.
I
saw
that
original
amendments.
In
addition
to
the
highlighted
newer
amendments,
I
was
just
curious.
There
was
a
lot
there
and
these
are
long
bills,
or
these
are
long
sections
of
the
code.
I
just
wanted
some
clarity
on
on
what
these
particular
latest
amendments.
O
Hi
marty
battistone
with
the
department
of
city
planning
we
had,
we
were
just
cleaning
up
the
formatting.
O
A
M
I
just
really
want
to
thank
councilman
wilson.
I
actually
was
asked
to
make
the
amendment
and
hersh
sent
a
bunch
of
notes
as
to
what
the
changes
were.
So
I
apologize,
it
just
adds
an
effective
date
of
330
122
when
there
previously
wasn't
one
for
all
the
departments
to
roll
off
this
enforcement
for
large
development
projects
and
two
it
clarifies
that
all
contractors
working
on
the
stormwater
aspects
of
the
development
projects
must
be
registered.
Contractors
and
three
makes
several
technical,
formatting
corrections.
So
that's
why
I
needed
to
mention
so
I
apologize.
A
H
J
A
J
1907
resolution
amending
resolution
number
455
entitled
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
city
planning
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
community
and
economic
development's
blight
remediation
program
to
study
city
on
vacant.
Lots
in
the
neighborhood
of
homewood
to
add
language,
to
allow
the
city
to
accept
the
grant
award
and
to
spend
funds.
A
J
S
I
believe,
as
I
think
the
majority
of
council
believes
that
we
should
have
housing
options
for
people
of
all
income
levels.
Regardless
of
your
income
level,
you
should
have
access
to
clean,
decent
housing
and
housing
that
you
can
afford,
and
so
because
people
have
various
incomes,
we
need
various
levels
of
housing
options
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
each
district.
Each
community
needs
different
things.
Some
communities
need
more
affordable
housing.
S
Some
communities
need
more
market
rate
housing,
some
need
more
rentals,
some
mean
more
home,
it's
it's
a
complex,
it's
a
complex
problem,
and
so,
but
these
particular
bills,
along
with
bill
1914,
I'm
going
to
explain
them
out
loud
and
then
send
some
of
them
over
to
planning
in
terms
of
what
the
intentions
are
on
september,
9th
councilman
lavelle
and
I
and
a
number
of
community
groups
and
researchers
came
together
to
release
the
study
results
of
a
study
that
established
that
low-income
neighborhoods,
mostly
black,
but
not
just
black,
to
be
exact,
are
on
the
verge
of
extinction
in
the
city,
because
the
banks
refused
to
lend
to
black
families,
banks
won't
lend
to
those
who
wish
to
build
affordable
housing
in
our
neighborhoods
either.
S
The
first
that
we've
already
passed
preliminarily
was
a
resolution
declaring
housing
as
a
human
right
in
the
city
and
mandating
the
creation
of
a
housing
plan
that
eliminates
the
affordable
housing
shortfall.
We
have
all.
We
have
the
housing
authority,
housing
authority.
We
have
the
ura
all
trying
to
figure
this
out,
but
there's
no
plan,
there's
no
coordinated
plan,
and
so
this
car
this
legislation
calls
for
a
coordinated
plan
to
be
created.
That
says
what
would
happen,
what
does
it
need
to
create
20
000,
roughly
20
000,
affordable
units
in
the
next
20
years?
S
S
I
expect
the
new
administration
will
appoint
someone
to
replace
mr
lamar
or
keep
mr
lamar
or
someone
else
that
will
be
a
housing
person
in
the
administration
lane
and
then
we
can
create
and
continue
to
coordinate
the
work
of
the
affordable
housing
task
force.
There
is
right
now,
no
individual
or
no
entity,
that's
charged
to
continuing
that
work.
The
other
two
things,
then,
are
the
two
pieces
of
legislation
in
front
of
you
and
let
me
sort
of
explain
what
they
do.
S
One
is
an
amendment
that
basically
to
this
zoning
code
that
requires
developments
of
large
projects
to
the
close
to
the
zoning
application.
S
The
impact
of
their
projects
will
have
on
the
need
for
housing
so
that
when
we
have
now,
these
new
projects
come
online
right
now
there
is
no
vehicle
to
assess
whether
it's
going
to
help
affordable
housing,
but
it's
going
to
hurt,
affordable
housing
because
we
know,
if
you
build,
you
know:
30
000
dollar
development
in
a
neighborhood,
it's
going
to
have
an
impact,
both
good
and
bad,
and
so
we
need
to
figure
out
what
our
plans
for
affordable
housing
and
then
we
want
to
monitor
every
new
development
and
see
which
impact
may
be.
S
It
may
be,
you
know
good,
it
may
be
bad
and
then
the
third
thing,
the
third
piece
of
legislation,
there's
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
code,
which
would
give
city
council
the
right
to
directly
review
and
approve
and
reject
these
large
development
projects
based
on
their
project's
consistency,
with
the
plans
that
we've
outlooked-
and
I
think
it's
sort
of
like
this.
S
When
my
wife
and
I
would
go
out
to
dinner,
when
the
kids
were
little,
we
often
would
get
babysitters,
and
you
know
young
teenage
girls
and
sometimes
the
kids
were
good,
but
sometimes
they
weren't
good.
I
mean
mr
bell
and
I
think
bob
you
may
have
that
experience
right.
One
time
we
came
home
and
there
was
a
there
was
a
there
was
a
fire
truck
in
front
of
my
house
right.
My
my
son
had
was
told
not
to
play
the
microwave
he
put
some
in
the
microwave.
S
It
was
smoking,
she
was
14,
and
so
she
called
the
paramedics
for
smoke
out
of
the
microwave,
and
we
asked
my
son.
You
know
why
why
he
didn't
listen
to
her.
He
said:
oh
she's,
not
an
adult.
I
don't
have
to
listen
to
her
dad
so,
okay.
Well,
we
give
the
planning
and
zoning
we
give
this
right
to
the
planning
commission,
it's
actually
a
legislative
right.
We
as
council
have
that
power
and
authority.
S
We
give
it
to
them
and
I
I
think,
most
of
the
time
they
make
right
decisions,
but
I
think,
as
the
parents
we
also
have
the
right,
which
is
our
right
to
oversee
these
projects.
In
my
mind,
this
would
happen
very
rarely.
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
be
an
everyday
occurrence,
but
every
now
and
then
I
think
their
projects
in
our
community
that
are
so
powerful
and
so
transformational
that
we
as
councils
should
make
the
final
determination
of
whether
they're
appropriate
or
not.
S
Now
I
did
talk
to
to
planning
and
to
the
planning
commission
and
I'm
going
to
do
two
things
I'll
bring
sean
up
in
case.
You
have
technical
questions,
he
helped
to
draft
the
legislation,
but
first
thing
before
I
do
that
I
want
to.
I
did
get
some
concerns
and
I've
actually
talked
to
eric
strasberger
and
some
of
some
of
us
not
all
of
our
concerns,
but
some
of
the
concerns
are
reflected
in
this
amendment.
S
What
we
basically
did
was
increase
the
size
of
what
would
be
considered
the
development,
so
we
would
have
less
of
these
applications
to
review,
because
my
my
attempt
is
to
capture
big
things.
S
Not
a
person
by
you
know,
building
an
individual
house,
not
someone
building
a
duplex,
but
really
you
know
four
and
five
unit
construction
20
unit
construction,
big
stuff
is
is,
is,
is
the
intention
and
so
the
process
will
will
be
I'm
going
to
ask
to
amend
one
of
the
bills
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
both
of
them
go
to
planning.
They
will
give
us
their
report
and
recommendation.
S
That'll
come
back
to
us
and
then
I
will
entertain
a
variety
of
other
amendments
given
by
council
and
by
planning,
and
whoever
else
has
you
know
friendly
amendments,
and
so
this
is
the
beginning
of
what's
going
to
be
a
longer
process.
So
I
just
want
to
want
to
know
that
regards
what
we
do
today.
There
is
two
other
steps
that
have
to
happen.
The
planning
commission
will
review
they'll,
send
their
recommendations.
K
Second,
very
brief:
discussion
yep,
so
councilman,
I'm
just
a
little
bit
confused
and
forgive
me
if
I'm,
if
I
misstate
this
originally,
my
understanding
was
when
these
kinds
of
of
of
changes
are
offered
up
it.
It
lives
in
the
administration
for
a
period
of
30
days
and
then
comes
back
to
council
with
a
recommendation
from
the
administration.
S
T
Are
two:
those
are
the
other
bill
under
section
208
of
the
home
rule
charter.
Any
structural
change
to
the
department
itself
requires
that
30
day
blackout
period.
So
there
were
other
legislation
introduced
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
which
fundament
physically
changed
the
structure
of
departments
that
had
to
be
held.
K
Out
for
a
recommendation
from
the
mayor,
thank
you
I
appreciate.
Thank
you
good
eye.
I
appreciate
it,
and
so
the
amendment
is
to
bill
1912,
but
it's
1913
that
ultimately
would
empower
council
to
no
it's
1912.
A
S
No,
they
planning
commission
would
make
a
recommend
if
this
changes
a
could
have.
The
iraqi
planning
mission
will
still
make
its
determination
and
recommend
the
council
and
council
becomes
the
final
arbiter,
so
we
can
go,
we
can
agree
with
them
and
say:
yes,
we
can
disagree
with
them
and
say
no,
but
we
become
the
final
judge.
S
A
Let's,
let's
there
are
projects
that
now
go
before
the
planning
commission
that
never
come
before
city
council,
this.
My
understanding
is
that
they're
not
thought
to
my
understanding
is.
We
would
now
have
an
opportunity
to
say
we
want
to
review
that
project.
We
want
to
have
final
say,
be
it
for
or
against
say
a
project,
so.
A
K
T
T
Any
plan
requiring
site
plan
review
under
922.04
and
those
are
detailed
site
plans
for
projects
larger
than
8
000
square
feet.
Project
development
plans,
which
currently
are
approved
well
I'll,
go
back
under
the
first
bucket
92204
site
plan
review.
Those
are
all
approved
by
the
zoning
administrator.
T
The
zoning
administrator
can
choose
to
refer
the
matter
to
the
planning
commission
for
an
advisory
recommendation,
but
ultimately
the
zoning
administrator
retains
the
final
power
project
development
plans,
which
are
your
much
larger
plans,
can't
think
of
an
example
of
a
project
development
plan.
T
But
there
are
plenty
in
council
district,
three
that
are
currently
approved
solely
by
the
planning
commission,
and
then
there
are
planned
development
districts,
your
mixed
use,
development
districts,
your
commercial
plan,
development
districts,
your
residential
plan
unit
developments
and
then
yes,
your
specially
planned
districts,
the
sp
districts,
not
the
districts
themselves,
but
projects
within
them
when
the
member
of
council,
whose
district
it's
in,
determines
that
whatever?
T
For
whatever
reason,
this
project
implicates
a
significant
community
concern,
they
can
trigger
this
provision,
which
then
requires
the
planning
commission
to
hold
a
public
hearing
and
give
council
a
positive
recommendation,
a
recommendation
for
approval
with
conditions
or
a
recommendation
to
reject
the
proposal.
And
then
that
comes
to
counsel.
K
I
K
I
I
K
S
Again
we
we
looked
at
this,
both
ways
we
thought
about
having
a
and
we
may
amend
it
to
this
by
the
way.
Remember
I'm
open
to
this
conversation,
I'm
open
to
the
amendment
I
mean
amending.
We
actually
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
whether
or
not
we
should
have
a
certain
class
of
development
automatically
come
here
right.
We
thought
that
we
did
think
that
land,
but
if
you
do
that,
I
didn't
want
to.
I
didn't
want
to
overburden
the
planning
commission.
I
didn't
want
to
overburden
council.
I
didn't
want
I
wanted
to
I
wanted.
S
S
S
I
believe
there
are
projects
that
significantly
impact
our
city
that
are
that
are
transformational
projects
that
will
impact
your
district
for
good
or
for
bad.
I
believe
we
should
have
the
right
finally
to
accept
or
reject
these
projects.
If
they're
of
that
significance
right
now,
there's
projects
they're
going
to
prove
for
your
district,
that
you
have
no
say
so
over
that
can
dramatically
change
your
district.
For
instance.
Let
me
give
you,
for
instance.
S
I
think
I
don't
think
it's
public
yet,
but
my
understanding
is
upmc
is
going
to
build
a
two
billion
dollar
hospital
in
oakland.
If
they
build
a
two
billion
dollar
development
in
oakland,
it
will
dramatically
change
that
community.
It
will
be
that
that
that
sort
of
they've.
S
I
mean
that
kind
of
invest,
but
you
can't
even
see
those
kind
of
that
kind
of
investment
is
transformational
for
whether
it's
good
or
bad.
I'm
simply
saying
that
council
has
a
role
to
play
and
it's
it.
It
is
a
legislative
role,
believe
it
or
not
that
they,
the
planning
and
zhuni
commission,
although
have
state
things
it
comes
from
our
authority,
it's
not
their
authority.
They
actually
use
our
authority
that
we
transfer
to
them
for
them
to
use,
and
I'm
suggesting
that
there's
a
process
now
we
can
discuss
what
that
process.
S
Is
I'm
really
open
to
this?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
there
that,
when
we
need
to-
because
I
have
seen
this
occur
over
the
four-
I
believe
this
last-
this
is
not
new.
For
me,
it's
just
the
last
time
I
tried
to
do
this
in
2009
10,
14.
yeah.
This
is
my
new.
This
is
not
my
first
crack
at
this.
I
tried
to
do
this
before.
I
fundamentally
believe
that
this
council
should
have
some
say
so
over
these
transformational
projects
that
happen
in
our
community.
K
S
T
T
They
determine
whether
your
application
is
complete
under
the
terms
of
title
four
of
the
city
code.
Then
they
send
that
to
the
member
of
council
whose
district
it's
in
now.
If
that
member
of
council
says
yes,
they
can
have
it.
That's
the
end
of
the
process.
If
that
council
member
says
no,
then
it
gets
referred
to
the
entire
council.
So
in
that
instance,
that's
giving
a
council
member
the
direct
authority
to
either
approve
it
directly
or
refer
it
to
counsel
for
further
action.
K
So
I
wrote
that
legislation
I've
never
agreed
with
the
process
of
having
a
council
member
sign
off,
and
that
is
not
part
of
the
legislation.
It
is
a
policy
within
the
department.
A
A
Okay,
give
me
one
second
councilman
gross:
let's
have
sean
finish
actually
walking
us
through
the
amendments.
T
Okay
and
we'll
just
start
over
again,
so
that
everybody's
at
the
same
place.
This
amendment
requires
a
zoning
administrator
to
notify
the
council
member
in
whose
district
an
application
is
filed
for
within
three
business
days.
If
it's
of
a
certain
size
and
a
certain
category,
so
projects
requiring
site
plan
review
under
922.04
project
development
plans
under
922.10
and
planned
development
districts
under
section
922.11.,
where
the
council
member,
whose
district
it's
in,
determines
that
this
project
implicates
a
significant
community
concern.
T
They
notify
the
zoning
administrator.
Who
then
has
to
notify
all
the
parties
involved,
including
the
planning
commission,
and
that
triggers
then,
when
the
zoning
administrator
refers
the
matter
to
the
planning
commission,
the
planning
commission
has
60
days
to
issue
a
recommendation
of
approval
or
a
recommendation
for
approval
approval
with
conditions
or
denial.
T
T
So
we're
not
removing
the
standard
of
review,
but
for
the
planning
commission,
then,
once
the
planning
commission
makes
that
determination
of
recommendation
for
approval
approval
with
conditions
or
rejection,
then
they
refer
to
council
city
council
then
has
120
days
under
the
map
and
text,
amendment
provisions
of
the
city
code
to
schedule
and
hold
the
public
hearing
and
then
another
90
days
after
they
hold
the
public
hearing
to
approve,
approve
with
conditions
or
reject.
Finally,
the
application.
K
I'll
just
make
one
final
comment,
and-
and
that
is
I'm
open
to
the
process-
I'd
love
to
have
the
discussion,
I'm
happy
to
to
be
engaged
and
involved
without
making
any
determinations
about
it.
One
cause
for
pause
is
the
the
time.
K
How
do
I
wanna
say
this:
the
provision
for
a
pr
for
providing
for
either
denial
or
approval
because
of
the
inaction
of
the
body
and
we've
run
amok
in
that
before
councilwoman
kell
smith.
I
believe
understands
that
when,
when
council
fails
to
take
action,
certain
things
happen.
Oh
yeah.
Q
T
This
amendment
requires
that
when
a
member
of
council
triggers
the
provision
that
the
provisions
that
already
exist
in
the
zoning
code
under
922.05
becomes
the
review
and
approval
process,
these
are
pre-exist
120
days
for
council
to
hold
the
public
hearing
and
the
90
days
to
vote
after
the
public
hearing
pre-exist
in
the
code.
Currently,
so
that
part
is
not
a
new
process
that
is
adopting
a
currently
existing
process
for
ease
of
conv,
for
convenience
of
enforcement
and
familiarity
for
council.
S
We're
going
to
be
moving
we're
going
to
be
admitting
this
and
that
we
we
I
thought
about
getting
given
my
point,
is
every
part
of
this
is
open,
I'm
open
to
amending
and
to
have
processed
what
I'm
personally,
but
I'm
not
open
me
personally,
everybody
else,
I'm
not
open
to
the
idea
that
council
should
not
have
this
authority.
I
think
council,
I
believe
council
inherently
has
this
authority
and
that
so
anything
short
of
that
I'm
open
to.
A
N
So
this
is
actually
a
very
lot
to
process
and
I
think
we
can
see
that
in
the
number
of
questions
that
people
are
asking.
What
I
heard
mr
carter
say
and
councilman
burgess
say,
is
that
the
goal
here
is
to
kind
of
trigger
a
council
involvement
where
it's
lacking
now,
I'm
actually
supportive
as
well.
You
know
that
was
your.
I
think
what
councilman
you're
just
said.
Your
bottom
line
is,
is
that
you
really
think
that
there
is
a
a
inherent
right
for
this
body
to
involve
itself
and
matters
of
like
large
process.
N
I'm
sorry,
someone
speaking,
that
is
interrupting
the
audio
feed.
It's
confusing,
so
I'm
supportive
there
as
well
of
the
concept
that
council
should
have
also
a
vote
as
a
body,
but
also
that
public
exchange
an
opportunity
for
input.
I
feel
that
it
brings
especially
now
these
large
projects,
when
there
are
so
very
many
large
projects
in
the
city
and
they
do
have
significant
impacts
on
the
neighborhoods
they're
in
and
on
the
districts
are
in
and
in
the
just
in
the
city
as
a
whole.
N
Honestly,
it's
not
like
20
years
ago,
when
there
just
weren't
any
projects
right,
and
so
I
do
feel
that
additional
transparency,
additional
you
know,
public
involvement
and
opportunity
for
comment
is
positive.
But
I'm
concerned
that
that
is,
there
are
other
parts
of
this
bill.
We
keep
when
it
the
bill
decreases.
N
Transparency
decreases
public
involvement
and
kind
of
allows
development
to
be
expedited,
and
it
may
not
have
been
your
intent,
but
what
I
see
is
a
reduction
of
waiting
periods
from
90
days
to
60
days,
and
maybe
this
is
the
part
that
councilman
krauss
was
also
speaking
to
just
now
that,
instead
of
being
deemed
90
days
a
waiting
period
that
if
it's
not
met
the
project,
is
deemed
a
denial.
N
This
bill
changes
and
compresses
the
amount
of
time
that
it
might
take
for
the
public
to
notice
the
project
form
opinions
about
projects
have
time
to
turn
out
to
public
hearing
it
compresses
that
and
that
that
decreases
accountability
to
the
public
and
then,
if
we,
if
this
under
these
this
language,
if
those
time
frames
are
not
met,
then
the
the
project
is
rubber,
stamped
deemed
deemed
approved.
N
Even
though
there
was
really
no
public
vote
on
it
and
council
didn't
vote,
and
so
it
allows
this
body
to
shirk
in
a
way
its
responsibilities
and
just
have
projects
approved
again.
Might
it
sounds
like
it's
the
exact
opposite
of
the
entire
speech
that
you
just
gave
counseling?
N
It
feels
like
it's
the
exact
opposite
of
your
intent,
but
I
believe
that
your
language
changes
embed
that
here
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
maybe
unintended
consequences,
and
then
you
I,
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
there's
it's
married
to
this
statement
that
requires
an
affordable
housing
impact.
I'd
like
also
to
hear
more
about
that,
because
I've
been
really
enthusiastic.
N
I
think
it's
something
that's
long
overdue,
that
we
should
be
looking
not
just
at
traffic
impacts,
not
just
at
stormwater
impacts,
which
is
really
all
we've
been
doing,
and
we
do
looking
at
equity
impacts
and
to
be
looking
at
how
these
again
very
many
projects,
5
000,.
O
N
and
and
this
pace
is
continuing
that
we
should
be
looking
to
see
whether
this
kind
of
project
really
is
aligned
with
the
goals
that
we
talk
about
all
the
time
to
increase,
affordable
housing
that
we
know
our
public
supports,
because
they've
shown
up
many
many
times
in
chambers
to
let
us
know
and
at
community
meetings,
and
certainly
I've
been
dealing
with
it
in
my
own
district.
N
So
I'm
enthusiastic
that
we
should
be
considering
an
affordable
housing
impact
for
each
of
these
projects,
but
that
the
other
changes
in
this
bill
will
probably
you
know,
give
us
less
time
to
do
that
and
that
there,
I
think
also
councilman
carls
mentioned
like
what
about
future
council
people
that
there's
actually
no
there's
such
loose
language
around
that
it's
a
special
project
or
just
because
the
council
person
feels
like
it
can
can
trigger
this.
What
could
be
an
expediting
and
automatic
deemed
approvals
with
that?
N
So
it's
not
matched
to
the
other
bill
whose
intent
I
wholeheartedly
support.
So
I
don't
know,
mr
carter.
If
you've
got
some
responses,
there.
T
Yes-
and
I
apologize
if
I
didn't
explain
this
more
thoroughly-
that's
on
me-
the
provision
that
deviates
from
922.05
d,
referring
to
planning
commission
hearings
on
map
and
text
amendments
under
922.05
point
d.
T
The
planning
commission
gets
90
days
to
give
a
recommendation
to
council
of
approval
or
disapproval
no
approval
with
conditions
and
where
the
planning
commission
fails
to
do
that.
Their
recommendation
is
deemed
a
recommendation
to
disapprove
under
this
provision,
accounting
for
the
fact
that
city
council
has
a
process
in
this
as
well.
This
shortens
their
90-day
window
to
60..
Yes,
it
does
do
that.
It
does
say
if
the
planning
commission
fails
to
act,
that
it's
a
deemed
recommendation
of
approval.
It
is
not
actually
an
approval
of
the
project.
T
It
still
then
has
to
come
to
council
with
a
recommendation,
but
where
the
commission
fails
to
act,
it
is
deemed
a
recommendation
that
the
planning
commission
recommends
approval.
However,
on
the
council
side
now
city
council
has
120
days
to
schedule
the
public
hearing
or
to
schedule
and
hold
the
public
hearing.
If
council
fails
to
schedule
and
hold
the
hearing
within
120
days,
the
project
is
now
deemed
an
actual
denial
after
the
council
holds
and
schedules
the
public
hearing
if
it
fails
to
act.
T
Finally,
in
90
days
after
that
public
hearing,
it
is
again
deemed
an
outright
denial,
so
there's
two
different
checks
in
that
process
and
the
reason
in
subsection
b
of
the
amendment
that
it
leads
to
the
discretion
of
the
member
of
council.
T
Whether
this
is
a
significant
community
concern
is
in
legislative
processes
generally,
it
is
generally
something
that
is
left
to
an
individual
member,
their
discretion,
their
knowledge
of
their
district
and
the
fact
that
they
have
to
be
held
accountable.
Taking.
T
If
you
want
to
get
philosophical
for
a
second
separating
the
legislative
process
from
the
administrative
process
with
land
use,
when
most
things
are
administrative,
it
removes
from
the
public
the
chance
to
hold
accountable
their
elected
representatives.
T
However,
elected
representatives
tend
to
get
held
accountable
when
these
administrative
processes
go
awry
anyway,
and
so
some
of
that
is
left
to
the
descript.
That
one
part
is
left
to
the
discretion
of
a
single
member,
but
no
single
member
can
approve
or
reject
under
this
provision
and
application.
All
that
member
can.
N
S
We're
open
we're
open,
councilman
gross.
We
we
actually
thought
about
that
for
this
amendment.
We
are
open
to
90
days,
we're
open
to
all
of
that.
Remember
my
intent.
I've
already
told
you
my
bottom
line,
and
so
I'm
I'm
I'm
well.
I
am.
I.
N
Yeah,
absolutely
so
to
align
these
very,
very
many
moving
pieces.
N
Would
I
I
again
I
would
support
that
intent,
I'm
I
I
believe
that
a
substantial
part
now,
I
think,
actually,
since
hearing
mr
carter's
explanations,
it's
even
more
worrisome
than
I
thought
that
is
not
in
alignment.
So
your
you
know
the
the
intent
of
the
bill
and
the
presentation
here,
especially
in
the
in
the
partner
pieces,
I
think,
can
get
us
to
a
much
better
place.
N
But
it
doesn't
look
to
me
that
these
immense
the
other
amendments
that
we
were
just
speaking
to
will
work
in
the
opposite
direction,
and
that
is
definitely
not
where
any
of
us
want
to
go.
So
I
think
we
should
talk
more
about
that.
N
I
I'm
sensing
that,
especially
with
the
references
to
all
of
these
sections
and
and
kudos
to
mr
carter
to
be
able
to
recite
chapter
and
verse
of
zoning
code,
so
facility
92,
22.04
b1,
and
these
things
I
don't
think
most
of
us
were
following
you
to
be
frank,
there's
so
many
pieces
here.
I
think
council
maybe
wants
to
dig
into
it
before
it's
before.
N
We
subject
our
planning
commission
to
this
because
it
seems
like
we
could
just
do
some
of
this
alignment
ourselves
before
we
actually
get
their
impact,
instead
of
sending
them
pieces
that
work
in
opposition
to
one
another
of
these
actions,
so
I
would
suggest
that
we
we
do
some
of
that
work
up
front,
but
I'll,
let
other
members
take
their
turn.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
M
Thank
you,
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
reverend
burgess
and
councilman
lavelle
for
working
on
this
legislation
and
sean
you've
done
so
much
work
on,
but
I
just
want
to
say
for
me:
I
have
watched
since
I've
been
here
so
much
development
happened.
That's
been
not
beneficial
in
my
district
on
hillsides
and
they're,
not
large
developments.
M
Some
of
them
are
homes
and
places
where
I've
asked
for
people
to
intervene
to
make
sure
that
they,
you
know,
got
some
agreements
or
some
kind
of
assurance,
even
a
bond,
something
so
that
some
of
it's
been
on
grandview
avenue.
Where
I'm
terrified
that
it's
going
to
fall
down
and
nothing
I
mean
they
think
they
just
get
approved
and
with
very
little
process.
So
for
me
the
whole
thing
is
that
I've
said
this
to
before.
M
I
feel
like
council
members
need
to
have
some
say
on
what's
going
on
here,
but
I
think
if
we
had
the
respect
of
the
directors
and
of
the
employees
across
the
board,
knowing
that
council
members
also
hold
their
jobs
in
our
hands
and
they
understand
that
a
little
bit
better.
M
M
I
don't
think
you
know
some
people
really,
because
we
don't
really
exercise
that
we've
always
just
you
know,
worked
really
well
with
everyone,
and
I
I
don't
anticipate
it's
not
working
well
with
you
know
whomever
is
the
next
mayor
I'd,
but
what
I
think
is
that
council
and
I've
said
this
before
needs
to
take
a
stronger
lead
and
a
stronger
role
in
the
leadership
of
the
city
and
and,
as
you
say,
co-lead
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
and
so
for
me.
M
I
think
it's
better
that
we're
having
now
nine
members
elected
members
having
some
say
we
were
elected
by
the
people,
we
were
not
appointed
by
a
mayor,
we're
not
appointed
and
that
these
other
people
are
appointed
and
not
that
we
don't
value
what
they
do.
We
do
definitely
do
and
they
take
on
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
think
now
the
difference
is
the
elected
body
can
have
some
say
and
for
me
that's
that's
you
that's
really
important
and
it
actually
adds
more
days.
Correct
me.
M
210
extra
days
with
the
elected
body,
so
it's
not
so
to
me
that's
important
because
then
it
gives
the
public
so
many
more
opportunities
to
come
and
speak
and
talk,
but
I
think
how
this
would
have
affected
your
district
in
in
such
a
more
positive
way.
The
way
that
you
would
would
maybe
prefer
councilman
gross,
because
I
think
I
how
many
times
you've
had
so
many
developments
popping
up
all
over.
They
were
even
difficult
to
keep
track
of.
M
I
don't
know
how
you
would
you
know
you
had
a
lot
of
major
projects,
though,
but
I
think
to
me
it's
once
the
directors
start
realizing
that
council's
taking
going
to
take
a
stronger
role
in
in
governing
the
city,
then
maybe
we
won't
need
all
these
extra
things
in
place.
M
Maybe
we'll
just
have
a
great
communications
with
some
of
our
employees
and
some
of
the
various
departments,
but
right
now
we
don't
always
have
that,
and
I
mean
developments
have
happened
in
our
areas
and
I'll
find
out,
because
somebody
will
post
something
or
say
something
and
I'll
be
like.
Oh,
my
god,
I
mean
it's
just
sometimes
it's
it's
something
that
I'm
really
worried
about,
like
the
hillside
on
grandview,
that
I
would
love
for
even
smaller
developments
to
come
to
us,
not
just
the
big
ones
because
of
the.
M
I
think,
I'd
like
to
see
something
with
hillsides
in
there
that
we
have
some
say
on
that,
because
we're
constantly
looking
for
money
to
help
stabilize
hillsides,
and
then
we
have
other
people
with
the
right
amount
of
dollars.
Right
amount
of
money
come
in
and
just
develop
on
the
hillside
and
sometimes
they're
great,
but
you
always
worry
about
the
the
stability
of
the
hillside
and
the
people
and
the
businesses
nearby.
So
I
would
like
to
have
even
additional
stipulations.
They
have
to
come
before
us
added
to
that.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
wilson,.
L
Director,
thanks
for
joining
us,
can
you
introduce
yourself
for
the
public.
U
Yes,
andrew
dash
director
of
city
planning,
city
pittsburgh,.
L
Can
you
just
give
me
a
real
world
example?
What
of
what
we're
looking
at
here
like,
for
instance,
you
know
previously,
we
asked
about
a
someone
asked
about
an
example
of
how
this
would
change
us
so
like
like
literally
what
do
we
not
see
in
council
right
now
that
we
have
a
decision
for
that
goes
to
city
planning?
That
goes
as
zoning
that
this
would
ultimately
change.
U
I
mean
the
bill
is
slightly
amended
from
the
last
version
that
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
my
understanding
is
that
the
bill
triggers
anything
over
8
000
square
feet
which
could
be
you
know,
I
mean
it
could
be
a
small
retail
building
on
a
neighborhood
business
corridor.
It
could
be,
you
know
something
that
would
be
roughly.
You
know
five
units,
you
know
that.
Would
you
know
that
would
potentially
you
know
be
triggered
here.
You
know,
if
that's
your,
if
that's
your
question
to
yeah.
L
U
Yeah
and
actually
I
do
believe
in
at
least
the
last
version
that
I
received
from
reverend
burgess-
that
it
actually
says
a
lot
area
of
8
000
square
feet
or
greater
or
building
so
it
could
be.
U
I
mean
I,
I
think,
there's
some
points
of
confusion
that
planning
staff
still
have
as
to
to
what
this
applies
to.
But
if
it
is
a
lot
of
8
000
square
feet
or
more,
it
could
be
a
large
single-family
house.
The
way
that
it's
written,
you
know,
I
don't
believe
that
that
was
the
intent,
but
you
know
I
you
know,
and
but
at
least
in
my
in
my
read
of
what's
been
provided
to
us.
H
U
You
know
I
I
received
an
amendment
last,
you
know
yesterday
afternoon,
so
you
know
we
were
you
know
trying
to
you
know
trying
to
be
able
to
look
at
things
regardless.
T
Yes,
because,
under
the
site
plan
review
criteria
in
922.04,
a
which,
which
detailed
site
plans
are
subject
to
site
plan
review
under
92204c,
I
think
it's
subsection
2
of
that
subsection
applications
for
projects
in
the
highway
commercial.
I
believe
the
neighborhood
industrial
and
maybe
one
other
are
limited
or
it
triggers
if
they're
greater
than
8
000
square
feet.
So
reverend
burgs
didn't
want
to
accidentally
capture
ones
that
are
not
currently
subject
to
site
plan
review
because
we
set
the
bar
too
low.
Okay,.
L
U
I
mean
you
know
so
something
I
think
what
you
know.
What
sean
mr
carter
is
talking
about
is
around
things
that
have
site
planner
view
that
may
be
reviewed
administratively.
These
are
not
these.
Those
are
not.
You
know,
those
are
not
projects
that
go
to
the
planning
commission.
Those
are
things
that
you
know
are
reviewed.
Administratively.
U
We
have
a
zoning
code
if
they
are
determined
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
code,
then
you
know
those
are
you
know
our
pieces
that
you
know
would
potentially
be
approved.
I
mean
there
is
well
I'll
hold
for
any
other
questions.
L
U
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
still
some
confusion
by
planning
staff,
even
based
on
the
amended
legislation
that
we've
received
as
to
what
specifically,
that
would
be
I'll.
L
Ask
the
sponsor,
or
the
sponsors
representative
well.
T
In
terms
of
the
department's
interpretation,
they
are
entitled
great
weight
in
how
they
interpret
the
code,
and
so
a
lot
of
this.
A
lot
of
those
questions
that
you
just
asked
will
have
to
be
hashed
out
in
front
of
the
planning
commission,
because
our
intent,
reverend
burgess's
intent
aside,
there's
still
the
weighty
question
of
how
the
department
of
city
planning
interprets
the
zoning
code,
which
is
their
right
to
interpret.
T
We
did
make
changes
to
in
what
we
thought
would
address
concerns,
not
necessarily
that
you
need
to
do
these
things
for
us
to
support
it.
That
wasn't
it.
They
were
like.
We
see
these
things
as
concerning,
and
you
should
know
that.
Give
him.
S
A
A
L
Okay,
now
I
mostly
know
that,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
just
openly
talking
about
what
we're
talking
about
here
so
because
I'm
familiar
with
the
you
know
with
the
garden
theater
block
where
you
know
they
have
done.
You
know,
they've
got
planning
approval
and
I
mean
I've.
Never
it's
never
come
to
the
table.
That's.
A
L
So
well
I'll,
let
the
director
do
you
have
any
comment
on
that.
Is
that
true
anything
that
happens.
U
In
in
those
in
those
two
cases-
yes,
I
mean
you
know:
city
council
approved
the
zoning
classification
to
rezone
the
lower
hill.
You
know
you
know
the
the
sp
district.
They
did
approve
that
they
also
approved
the
text
and
the
preliminary
land
development
plan.
But
you
know
the
final
land
development
plans.
You
know
you
know
are
ones
that
that
do
go
through
the
planning,
commission
and
not
city
council
presently
under
the
code
and
then
to
you,
know
to
the
garden
feeder
block.
U
You
know
that
one
specifically
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
check.
You
know,
but
you
know
there
were
yeah.
I
think
I
believe
variances
that
were
acquired
by
the
zone.
You
know
by
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
but
you
know
that
was
the
approval
process
for
that
specific
project.
So
you
know
so.
Similarly
that
project
did
not.
You
know,
did
not
need
to
come
to
city
council
beyond
that.
L
And
so
this
I'm
sorry,
we
call
well
there's
an
amendment,
but
this
bill,
if
amended
and
everything
I
realized
even
seeing
the
amendment.
So
it's
is
it
your
understand
that
it
would
move
things
to
like,
I
would
add,
200,
possibly
210
days
to
the
already
required
time.
U
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
a
that's
an
outstanding
question
that
we
have,
because
there
are,
you
know
conflicting.
You
know
this
presents
conflicting
provisions
to
what
our
existing
standards
are
for
any
of
the
developments
that
would
have
had
to
go
to
planning
commission
anyways.
You
know
you
know
where
you
know
so
so
they're.
You
know.
U
I
think
that
you
know
that
would
be
something
that
would
have
to
be
to
be
reconciled,
but
you
know,
because
typically
the
timing,
for
you
know
for
any
of
those
bills
that
would
have
that
would
have
gone
through
a
planning
commission
recommendation
process.
U
Typically
that
are
triggered
by
this
bill
would
have
90
days
to
go
to
planning
commission
and
would
be
deemed
denied
which,
from
my
you
know
from
my
perspective-
and
you
know,
is
you
know
that
90
days
and
then
you
know,
and
then
planning
commission
coming
with
a
negative
recommendation
is
something
that
does
encourage
applicants
when
there
is
community
process-
and
you
know
potentially
community
concerns
to
be
able
to
work
through
those
community
concerns
before
the
project
leaves
planning
commission
with
a
recommendation.
L
Which
is
the
exact
body
that
we're
trying
to
change
here?
Well
like
what
are
they
gonna
do
with
this.
U
Well,
I
mean,
I
obviously
can't
answer
for
the
planning
commission.
I
think
there
are
you
know
as
reverend
burgess
and
shawn
are
aware.
You
know,
I
think,
just
some,
you
know
some
questions
or
concerns
that
planning
staff
have
it.
U
Yeah
I
mean
they
would
they
would
review,
they
would
review
these
changes
and
make
a
recommendation
back
to
city
council
city
council
would
be
the
final
decision
makers
on
this
bill
like
they
are
with
any
bills
that
come.
You
know
with
changes
to
the
you
know,
either
the
map
or
the
text
of
the
zoning
code.
R
Thank
you.
I
think
some
of
my
concerns
have
already
been
stated.
Some
additional
concerns,
which
may
have
been
stated
in
our
long
conversation
this
morning,
are
just
the
sheer
capacity
of
our
planning
and
zoning
offices.
We
all
know
that
when
developments
are
trying
to
go
through
large
and
small-
and
I
realize
we're
talking
about
large
developments
here
and
that
the
intent
in
future
amendments
of
this
bill
is
to
really
restrict
it
to
developments
that
are
very
large
and
kind
of
few
and
far
between.
R
I
still
am
concerned
about
the
capacity
of
our
planning
and
zoning,
our
planning
department
and
our
zoning
office
as
it
stands,
there's
more
than
than
they
can
really
handle
at
this
point,
because
of
because
of
just
the
sheer
amount
of
activity
happening
in
the
city,
and
I
know
that,
as
we
consider
future
budgets,
we're
prioritizing
that.
However,
I
knowing
that
gives
me
pause
for
something
that
could
add
a
huge
amount
of
need
for
additional
capacity
or
a
bigger
lift.
So
that's
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
state
reverend.
R
Burgess
is
right
that
we
did
have
a
conversation
yesterday
about
some
of
my
concerns
and
he
reiterated
his
intent
to
amend
so
like
councilman
krauss
and,
like
others,
I'm
open
to
this
conversation,
I'm
not
going
to
state
today
whether
I
fully
support
or
oppose.
I
just
am
open
to
the
further
conversation
and
we'll
be
following
the
planning
commission's
conversation
closely
as
well.
I'm
happy
to
have
follow-up
conversations
with
with
a
number
of
people
and
then
the
the
second
concern
is
over
just
the
definition
of
community
concern.
R
What
constitutes
community
concern
and
who
is
the
community,
and
this
is
a
perennial
question-
we're
asking
in
all
sorts
of
development
and
zoning
decisions
who
holds
the
power
and
who,
who
is
the
community?
Is
the
community
just
defined
as
the
council
member
is
the
community
defined
as
people
who
live
there?
Is
it
the
rco?
Is
it
people
who
don't
live
in
the
community,
but
have
a
stake
in
in
the
development
or
have
a
you
know,
have
a
problem
with
the
developer
like
who
is
the
community?
R
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
more
conversation
about
that
and
at
the
risk
of
opening
a
can
of
worms
around
defining
community
writ
large.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
considered
here
as
well.
T
Well
I'll
go
backwards
from
the
question
about
who
defines
the
community
it's
the
member
of
council.
That's
why
it's
somewhat
discretionary,
because
what
may
be
community
to
councilman
burgess
may
not
be
community
to
councilman.
Lavelle
may
not
be
community
to
president
kell
smith.
T
Some
things
are
hard
to
define
in
you
know
a
definite
way,
so
it
was
best
to
use
a
general
term
and
oh
and
then
there's
the
councilman
strasburger.
You
raised
the
point
about
overburdening
the
planning
staff.
Now,
there's
definitely
a
valid
concern
about
overburdening
the
planning
commission,
but
the
zoning
administrator
has
to
review
every
application
that
comes
in
for
consistency
with
the
code
in
order
to
determine
that
the
application
is
complete,
regardless
of
which
process
it
goes
through.
T
Currently,
if
it's
a
site
plan
review,
that's
the
sole
discretion
of
the
zoning
administrator
and
so
and
councilman
burgess
has
had
conversations
and
is
concerned
about
making
sure
city
planning
has
the
resources
it
needs.
In
all
cases,
this
aside
to
effectively
manage
the
net
the.
S
So
if
I
again,
my
process
is
simple:
what
I'd
like
to
suggest
is.
I
would
like
to
do
this
expeditiously
and
completely
the
reason
I
didn't
want
to
I
made
these
amendments
were
based
on
my
conversation
with
planning,
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
send
it
over
to
planning
get
all
of
their
concerns
in
one
place
so
that
when
we
change
it,
we'll
have
all
of
everyone's
concerns
in
front
of
us
rather
than
to
continue
for
us
to
change
it.
But
then
they
say
we
want
120
days
right.
S
I
want
180
days
I'd
rather
get
all
of
their
concerns,
all
of
our
concerns
in
one
place,
and
then
we
make
the
final
determination.
So
that's
why
that's
at
least
my
suggestion
is
by
getting,
because
I
would
think
I'm
I'm
pretty
sure
that
the
planning
commission
would
prefer
council
not
to
use
this
not
to
have
this
role.
I
I
don't
know
that,
but
that
would
be.
S
S
A
You
councilman
strasberger,
are
you
finished.
R
A
Okay,
second
round
councilwoman
gross.
N
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
go
to
that
section
that
I
was
referring
to
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
So
mr
carter,
I'm
going
to
read
this,
and
then
you
can
tell
me
if
I've
got
the
right
section,
I'm
reading
it
again.
I
have.
I
don't,
have
these
sections
memorized
the
way
you
do,
but
it's
922.04
point
b.
Point:
one
notification
to
see
the
council
of
applications
filed,
section
c
here
seems
completely
unnecessary
right.
If
you're.
N
If
your
goal
for
this
section
is
that
zoning
should
notify
city
council,
you
don't
need
section
c
at
all
which
says
the
planning
commission
shall
hold
a
public
hearing
on
the
application.
The
commission
shall
act
to
recommend
approval
or
approval
with
conditions
or
denial
of
the
application
within
60
days,
instead
of
it
being
90..
N
If
we
do
think
that
we
want
to,
you
know,
add
counsel,
it
isn't
necessarily
helpful
to
reduce
planning
commission's
response
time
so
where
the
commission
fails
to
render
said
recommendation
within
the
period
required
by
the
subsection,
which
is
60
days,
the
decision
shall
be
deemed
every
recommendation
of
approval
of
the
application,
so
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
to
give
council
the
opportunity
to
intervene.
N
Why
put
this
section
in
there
at
all?
If
the?
If
the
our
goal,
which
I
hear
every
member
agreeing
on
that,
there
should
be
some
trigger
that
we
take
some
of
these
developments
to
a
greater
public
participation
and
bring
them
to
council
for
an
additional
vote,
because
they
are
that
impactful
either
positively
or
negatively.
As
the
councilman
said,
then,
why
make
other
ones
have
less
process
and
a
rubber
kind
of
a
fast
track,
with
less
public
oversight?
N
Just
strike
that
section,
I'm
not
even
sure
why
we
would
send
it
to
the
planning
commission
for
their
response,
and
so
I
do.
I
do
think
we
should
have
a
a
lot.
We
should
be
digesting
this
at
city
council
before
we
even
send
it
to
the
planning
commission.
N
I
think
it's
clear
from
all
the
questions
that
we've
had
here,
that
we
haven't
even
had
a
chance
to
process
this,
and
so
it's
council's
obligation
that
we
can't
vote
this
through
without
sending
it
to
planning
commission,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
do
our
homework
and
have
this
feedback
with
members.
N
Sorry
councilman,
I
didn't
talk
to
you
between
tuesday
and
today,
but
this
is
the
discussion
and,
and
I'm
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
in
learning
as
we
discuss,
and
I
do
think
we
need
time
as
a
bite
to
to
process
that
I
would
like
director
dash
to
tell
me
if
what
I
just
said
was
right
or
wrong
in
the
way
he's
reading
it.
Is
that
how
you
read
and
interpret
the
section
that
I
just
read,
that
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
U
I
yes,
I
mean
it
does
it
does
change
the
you
know
it
does
shorten
at
least
the
process
on
the
planning
commission
side.
It
keeps
the
council
process
the
same
as
it
would
be
for
any
other
application.
That
goes
to
city
council.
U
You
know-
and
I
I
you
know
I
mean
I
guess
you
know
just
part
of.
I
think
what
you
know
I
you
know
I
think,
as
far
as
that
goes
and
as
far
as
you
know,
council
having
the
concerns
to
bring
certain
types
of
applications
before
them,
that
may
not
be
now
I
mean
there
is
a
way
to
do
that
and
that's
through
the
conditional
use
process.
U
City
council
does
you
know,
process
conditional
uses
and
they
have
a
defined
process
and
they
have
to
define
timelines
for,
for
both
the
planning,
commission
and
for
city
council
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
to
hear
a
bill,
and
you
know,
and
what
the
public
process
is
surrounding
that
to
you
know,
to
allow
for
those
negotiations
to
go
on.
U
You
know,
and
another
point
you
know
around-
that
is
that
you
know
with
those
conditional
uses
there
there
are
and
have
to
be
legal
and
objective
criteria
for
making
a
decision
and
so
decisions
you
know
to
to
clarify
an
earlier
point.
I
mean
decisions
are
not
made
arbitrary.
You
know,
decisions
that
are
made
administratively
are
not
made
arbitrarily
they're
made
on
the
code
and
that
you
know
that
you
know
we
have
to
have
legal
and
defensible
standards
to
be
able
to.
U
You
know
to
you
know
whether
it's
city
planning
staff
doing
that
administratively
or
whether
that's
planning
commission,
you
know
making
that
decision
or
city
council.
You
know
that
we
have
to
have
legal,
and
you
know
you
know
we.
We
have
to
have
legal
and
objective
objective
criteria
to
be
able
to.
U
You
know
to
assess
an
application
and
to
be
as
to
be
able
to
assess
you
know
what
the
process
for
an
application
would
be
consistently
so
that
you
know
if,
as
councilwoman
kale
smith
had
noted
earlier,
if
there
are,
you
know
if
there
are
issues
with
certain
types
of
developments
on
hillsides,
that
you
know
that
are
desired,
to
go
through
further
review
and
and
have
council
ultimately
be
the
decider.
You
know
we
just.
U
We
need
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
defines
what
types
of
developments
those
are,
so
that
those
consistently
go
to
city
council.
For
for
that
review,
that
the
timing,
like
you
know
like
you
were
stating
councilwoman
gross,
is
consistent
and
you
know
and
goes
you
know
through
the
proper
channels
of
review
and
has
has
you
know,
has
the
proper
right.
U
You
know
review
process
for
all
things
that
are
of
that
same
classification
and
objective
criteria
to
be
able
to
make
a
decision
again,
no
matter,
no
matter
what
level
that
decision
is
being
made.
N
Did
I
get
it
there?
I
am
sorry,
I'm
sorry
too
much
up
on
my
screen.
I
hear
I
can
remember
saying
that.
Well,
let's
just
kind
of
you
know
throw
it
the
way
it
is
over
to
planning
commission
and
get
their
feedback.
That's
when
burgess
says
that
all
the
comments
are
in
one
place,
but
I
just
I
think
I'll
just
reiterate
what
I
said.
N
I
feel
that
parts
of
this
set
of
bills
are
are
at
odds
with
each
other,
so
while
the
the
intent,
especially
with
the
affordable
housing
impact
statement,
is
that
you
know
we
can
acknowledge
that
there
are
impacts
to
communities
that
may
be
negative,
such
as
you
know,
decreasing,
affordable
housing
opportunities,
but
then
it's
only
represented
in
bill
1912
as.
N
Is
it
impactful?
What
is
the
wording
deemed
you
know?
Councilperson
says:
there's
something
special
about
the
project.
I
think
maybe
is
one
of
the
language,
so
it
really
isn't
tied
to
the
kind
of
values
that
and
public
the
improvement
and
common
good
goals.
That
city
council
has
discussed,
which
we
discuss
a
lot
right,
write
us.
What
is
for
what
does
our
city
need
now?
What
should
we
be
promoting?
What
should
we
be
discouraging
in
order
to
create
the
common
good?
N
That
is
part
of
our
role
in
our
power
as
a
body,
but
it
isn't
reflected
in
bill
1912,
it
just
kind
of
says
like
well.
A
council
person
can
trigger
the
greater
participation.
N
Absolutely,
we
are
always
mindful
that
we
have
very
bifurcated
real
estate
and
land
use
needs
in
different
parts
of
our
city,
and
yet
what
I've,
I
think,
is
embedded
in
the
language
of
1912
does
the
opposite.
It
actually
expedites
the
planning
approvals.
N
N
It's
it's
it's
hard
for
us
to
suss
out
how
all
these
parts
move
together,
and
it's
certainly,
I
think,
I'm
just
we're
just
starting
to
see
some
feedback
from
members
of
the
public
that
are
they're
just
you
know
now
being
made
aware
of
this
legislation,
so
I
would
encourage
council
to
to
have
for
us
to
process
this
a
little
bit
better
amongst
ourselves
and
maybe
send
a
more
coherent
set
of
recommendations,
or
you
know
a
bill.
That's
more
coherent
to
the
planning
commission
for
their
for
their
response.
N
U
No,
I
think
that's
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
your
last
point
is
a
good
one.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
more
the
clearer
that
the
intention
of
this
bill
is
roof
is
actually
in
the
language
itself.
The
better
the
the
planning,
commission
and
planning
staff
are
able
to
respond
to
it.
You
know,
I
you
know
on
that.
You
know
on
your
last
point
of
significant
community
concern,
I
mean
without
a
definition
to
that
you
know
it.
You
know
it
is
something
that
causes.
U
You
know
great
concern
from
from
our
side
relative
to
how
that
would
be
administered
and
how
different
people
would
look
at
that,
and
I
think
to
to
your
point
on
different
districts
having
different
concerns.
I
mean
I
think
that
comes
in
the
you
know
and
how
we
can
apply
certain
things
within
within
certain
zoning
districts.
You
know,
for
example,
noting
you
know
that
you
know
there
are.
You
know,
particular
council
districts.
U
You
know,
council
district,
2,
council
district
4
that
have
a
lot
more
of
the
hillside
zoning
and
that
there
may
be
greater
concerns
around
certain
activities
in
hillside.
Zoning
than
you
know
than
there
are,
maybe
in
you
know,
residential
zones
that
are
primarily
in
your
district
or
district
8.
You
know
I
mean
you
know
just
based
on
you
know,
density
and
activity
that
occur
in
some
in
some
of
those
places,
and
I
think
that
that's
you
know
definitely
something
that
you
know
planning
staff
is
is
more
than
willing
to
to
have.
U
You
know
to
have
those
conversations
you
know
with
reverend
burgess
with
you
all.
As
with
you
all,
it's
councilman,
you
know,
council
members
to
to
make
sure
that
the
zoning
code
is
doing
what
we
want
it
to
do.
Which
is
I
mean
you
know,
then
I
mean
you
know.
The
intention
of
the
zoning
code
is
to
you
know,
to
be
able
to
put
the
guard
rails
up
to
minimize
secondary
impacts
and
development
as
we
approve
it,
and
you
know-
and
you
know
that
can
be
those
can
be
standards.
Those
can
be.
U
You
know
those
can
be
putting
the
right
places
for
public
process,
and
you
know
we're
definitely
willing
to
to
work
with
you
all
to
figure
out
what
that
right.
Balance
is.
N
Okay,
mister,
I
think
I'll
stop
my
comments
there,
I've
kind
of
stated
how
I
feel
that
there's
internal
conflict
in
these
bills
and
though,
while
I
support
their
intent,
I
am
very
concerned
that
there
are
some
pieces
that
parts
of
them
which
actually
work
to
the
opposite
effect.
P
So
I
mean
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I'm
willing
to
bet
my
district
is
probably
the
least
impacted
by
this
legislation
coming
down,
not
to
say
that
won't
change.
You
know
you
can't.
Even
I
can't
remember
the
last
big
development
that
I've
had.
If
any
tell
you
the
truth,
there
are
a
few
things
I'm
working
on
that
might
fit
into
this.
The
intent
of
it.
P
I
am
all
for
you
know
I
feel,
like
the
council
person,
knows
the
district
and
hears
from
the
people
more
than
anybody,
and
I
just
take
the
direction
from
the
people,
and
I
imagine
you
all
probably
do
the
same
thing
so
coming
here
today.
I
was
you
know,
thinking
yeah,
you
know
I'm.
I
like
the
idea
of
having
counsel
oversight
for
such
developments.
P
You
know
rate
questions
were
raised.
I
will
say
you
know.
Councilman
wilson
raised
the
question
as
prolonging
stretching
out,
you
know
developers,
plans
and
I
guess
the
the
idea
is
we're
going
to
work
that
all
out
through
whatever,
when
when
when
we
get
it
back
from
the
planning
commission
right.
So
how
long
before
the
planning
commission
gets
back
to
us
with
a
recommendation?
I
guess.
U
The
planning
commission,
you
know
once
a
bill
is
referred
to
the
planning
commission.
We
have
90
days
to
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
it
and
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council.
U
U
Typically,
two
weeks
later,
at
one
of
the
one
of
the
planning
commission's
regular
meetings,
they
would
hold
a
public
hearing
on
the
you
know
on
the
bill
as
well,
and
so
there
there
is
a
public
hearing
requirement
for
the
planning
commission
relative
to
text
amendments
which
which
this
bill
is
and
then
obviously,
once
it's
referred
back
to
city
council
with
the
recommendation,
then
there
would
be
a
public
hearing
before
city
council.
P
Okay,
mr
dash,
you
know
when
you're
reviewing
this,
you
will
send
back
a
recommendation.
Yes,
no
will
you
send
a
recommendation
as
to
each
individual?
You
know
thing
that's
in
the
bill
or
how
does
that
work.
U
So
typically
I
mean
it
it
yeah
I
mean
there's
an.
It
depends
with
an
answer
to
this,
as
as
many
of
our
recommendations
to
city
council
on
on
bills
go
sometimes
it's
as
simple
as
a
recommendation.
City
council
approve
or
recommendation
city
council
deny.
At
the
same
time
I
would
say
you
know
a
majority
of
the
recommendations
that
we
send
back
to.
You
have
conditions
of
some
sort,
and
so
you
know
there
may
be
times
that
a
planning.
You
know
the
planning
commission
says
all
right.
U
Well,
you
know
we.
We
support
this
and
recommend
approval,
but
these
things
need
to
be
changed
or
you
know
we
could
you
know
or
in
their
recommendation
they
could
say.
You
know
we
recommend
denial
for
these
reasons,
and
you
know,
and
and
so
they
would
outline
more
detail
in
their
recommendation
to
the
city
council
when
that
is
referred
back
to
city
council,
okay,.
P
And
this
could
be
for
mr
carter
or
anybody
wants
to
answer
the
question.
You
know
I
hear
about
the
big
developments
you
know.
I
of
course
am
more
interested
in
the
smaller
ones
and
you
know
to
have
oversight
on
as
to
what
the
smaller
developments
you
know
in
my
district
that
go
on
all
the
time.
So
you
want
to
answer
that.
Well,.
T
The
amendment
the
amendment
before
you
that
hasn't
been
approved
yet
sets
the
floor
at
8
000
square
feet
now.
I
know
that
the
director
dash
had
a
question
of
whether
that's
the
land
and
the
structure
and
that's
a
question
that
will
have
to
be
worked
out,
but
it
was
the
reverend
burgess's
intent
to
set
the
floor
at
eight
thousand
square
feet,
so
we're
not
catching
some
guy
trying
to
renovate
his
house
or
his.
You
know
three
in
the
apartment
building.
It's
just.
T
U
For
those
for
the
smaller
developments
I
mean
you
know,
I
mean
the
eight
thousand
square
feet,
whether
it's
square
footage
or
whether
it's
lot
size,
and
you
know
the
way
that
I
read
at
least
what
was
forwarded
to
me
from
from
sean
yesterday
afternoon-
is
that
it
says
both
it
says,
and
it
says
and
and
or
you
know
too,
that
that
a
lot
of
these
smaller
projects
that
you
know
or
building
alterations
that
go
on
that
are
administratively
approved,
would
now
be.
U
You
know
pretty
significantly
delayed
before
you
know
before
they
would
be
able
to
be
approved,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
an
issue
that
again
you
know
it.
You
know
we're
more
than
willing
to
to
to
work
with
council
members
to
understand
what
that
threshold
of
types
of
developments
that
are
causing
the
greatest
concern
would
be
and
how
to
make
sure
that
the
you
know
any
proposed
legislation
or
any
proposed
changes
to
the
code.
Reflect
that.
U
So
you
know
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
it's
something
like
I
said
I
mean
you
know.
The
thresholds
that
are
set
now
in
this
bill
to
you
know,
to
planning
staff
to
to
myself
seem
pretty
low
and
like
they're,
going
to
catch
a
lot
of
projects.
You
know
not
as
many
projects
as
the
initial
bill
did.
You
know
you
know,
but
a
lot
of
projects
that
very
the
majority
of
those
would
not
have
gone
to
planning
commission
in
the
first
place.
U
The
majority
of
those
were
not
you
know
were
not
were
projects
that
were
going
to
be
administratively
handled
and
were
going
to
be
something
that
you
know
that
zoning
staff
could
approve
administratively
and
now
that
didn't
have
a
planning
commission
process
and
now
those
will
have
both
a
planning,
commission
and
a
city
council
approval
process
where
they
didn't
before,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
you
know
that's
where
you
know
a
concern
of
ours
would
be
around.
U
You
know
how
you
know
again,
how
we
make
sure
that
the
right
types
of
development
that
city
councilors
are
most
concerned
on,
you
know
are
ones
that
you
know
that
might
need
to
take
on
that
extra
process
and
whether
that's
changing
those
things
to
conditional
uses.
Whether
that's
you
know
changing
review
criteria.
I
think
those
are
things
that
you
know
that
that
definitely
can
take
place,
but
that
triggering
the
you
know
the
thresholds
where
they
all
are
right
now
still
trigger
a
lot
of
development.
U
You
know,
like
I
said,
administrative
projects
that
would
add
an
additional
four
to
eight
months
to
their.
You
know
to
their
review
process,
and
so
you
know
that
is
something
that
you
know
like
I
said
I
mean,
there's,
probably
a
nuance
in
there
as
to
what
you
know
what
constitutes
you
know,
a
project
that
council
members
really
you
know,
are
concerned
about
and
making
sure
that
we're
trying
to
address
those
in
the
right
way.
Okay,.
P
So
there's
a
lot
to
digest
here.
You
know
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
one
of
my
main
concerns
is
with
councilman
wilson
brought
up
as
to
prolonging
a
development,
or
you
know
stalling
a
development
at
the
council
person's
request.
P
You
know
so
the
idea
here
today
we
were
voting
to
send
this
to
the
planning
commission
for
your
opinion
and
once
we
get
that
opinion.
If
it's
not
favorable
for
council,
we
then
can
still
act
if
we
want-
or
we
could
take
their
opinion
and
say,
oh
they're,
absolutely
correct.
U
Right
and
it
is
city
council's
decision,
ultimately
as
to
as
to
what
to
do
with
the
legislation.
The
planning
commission
solely
provides
a
recommendation.
Okay
and.
P
I
did
plan
to
have
conversations
with
the
other
council
members
who
have
much
bigger,
broader
developments
on
a
regular
basis.
I
haven't
had
that
chance
yet
to
talk
to
everybody.
I
know
where
reverend
burr
just
sits,
of
course,
and
mr
lavelle
and
I
know
they
have
a
lot
of
development,
so
I
don't
find
any
harm
incentives
to
the
planning
commission
for
your
opinion-
and
you
know
I
guess
we'll
tackle
it
once
it
comes
back.
L
Just
had
one
question:
we
sent
this
to
the
planning
commission.
They
gave
us
their
approval
disapproval.
To
what
extent
can
the
bill
be
amended
after
it's
been,
or
does
it
have
to
get
if
we
amend
any
portion
of
it?
You
know
like
up
to
what
like
can
be
amended
and
then
would
we
have
to
further
send
it
back
to
the
commission.
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
on
the
amendments.
After
it
comes
back
once.
A
A
U
Except
for,
except
for
that,
sorry
to
with
councilman
lavelle's
point
if
there
are
significant,
if
there
are
significant
changes
beyond
the
planning
commission
or
the
planning
commission's
recommendation
around
edits,
it
would
have
to
be
referred
back
to
the
planning
commission
again.
U
Planning
commission
can
make
the
same
recommendation
after
it's
amended
and
city
council
can
take
an
action.
That
is
that
you
know
that
is
or
is
not
in
line
with
the
planning
commission's
recommendation,
but
it
would
have
to
be
sent
back
to
the
planning
company
after
after
those
edits.
If
that,
like
I
said,
if
they
are
significant
edits
that
are
outside
of
the
planning
commission's
recommendation,
we.
U
I
mean,
which
is
really-
I
mean
really
something
that
we
use
the
law
department
and
their
guidance.
U
K
Yeah,
yes,
so,
mr
chairman
cosman
cross,
just
maybe
to
end
the
conversation
for
today,
I
I
can
see
the
wisdom
in
in
further
consideration
by
counsel,
because
there
there
has
been
a
lot
of
very
good
points
that
have
been
brought
up.
K
Ultimately,
I'm
going
to
vote
to
send
it
over
if
it's
the
will
of
the
body
to
take
a
little
more
time
for
further
consideration
to
to
make
tweaks
that
have
been
suggested
today,
then,
let's
do
it
either
way
I'll
cast
the
vote
today,
whatever
the
the
body
wishes
to
do,
but
I
I
don't
see
any
harm
in
taking
a
little
a
little
a
little,
I
stress
while
longer
to
tweak
here
and
there
and
then
send
it
over,
but
either
way
I'll
vote
to
to
support
the
will
of
the
body.
Today.
K
S
Can
mr
chair,
I
would
prefer
senate
I'll
tell
you
why
I
did
meet
with
planning.
I
asked
them
specifically
to
give
me
written
comments.
They
refused
to
do
that.
I
asked
them
specifically
to
work
with
them
to
do
this.
They
don't
want
me
to
do
this,
so
they
would
not
help
me,
which
is
okay,
I'm
not
in
agreement
with
that.
I
mean
I'm
not
have
a
problem
with
that.
S
That's
why
I'm
pretty
adamant
about
sending
it
over
to
them,
so
I
can
get
in
writing
what
their
concerns
are,
so
that
when
we
do
change
it
we're
changing
it
consistent
with
what
they
want.
My
my
worry
is
that
we'll
change
it,
but
it
still
doesn't
meet
their
concerns
or
because
every
time
I
talk
to
them,
they
have
a
legalistic
definition
of
things.
So
I
can't
determine
what
that
means,
so
I
would
prefer
to
get
it
in
writing
of
what
their
concerns
are.
K
So
let's
try
not
to
devolve
into
personalities
and
stick
with
the
the
what's
befores
and
if
you're
comfortable
with
sending
it
over
and
having
it,
come
back
and
and
we
make
either
significant
or
substantive
changes
and
it
goes
back
again
and
they
come
back
and
we
make
significant
or
substantive
changes
and
it
goes
back
then
so
be
it.
That's
the
process,
I'm
happy
to
support
that.
A
N
Just
briefly:
well
I
I
thank
you
to
councilman
krauss
for
his
willingness
to
to
do
the
process
of
the
way.
I
do
think
there
could
be
some
easy,
friendly
amendments
that
could
be
worked
out
in
a
week.
You
know
most
too,
that
would
make
this
mo
coherent.
N
I
really
do
feel
that
there's
an
internal
conflict
in
the
legislation,
so
I
would
you
know,
hopefully
respect
our
homily
request
that
that
we
just
hold
for
a
week
and
see
you
know
we
haven't
had
these
conversations
yet
and
we
might
be
able
to
just
to
do
these
some
simple
amendments
that
could
make
it
a
lot
stronger
going
to
the
planning
commission.
A
M
A
A
A
J
1886
resolution
providing
for
an
agreement
with
the
pittsburgh
board
of
public
education
or
another
vendor
chosen
through
the
city
bid
process
for
the
purpose
of
providing
meals
in
connection
with
the
2021-2022
food
service
program
in
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation,
total
cost
not
to
exceed
900
thousand
dollars.
Motion.
A
J
1904
resolution
amending
resolution
number
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
permit
licenses
and
inspection,
the
director
of
city
planning
and
chief
of
innovation
and
performance
to
enter
into
an
amendment
professional
services
agreement
with
building
eye
inc
to
purchase
software
and
related
support
services
that
will
create
an
interactive
map
for
internal
and
public
visual
display
of
planning,
permit
licenses
and
violation
data.
In
order
to
add
an
additional
year
of
services
and
71
540
of
compensation.
M
Q
I
Absolutely,
and
thanks
for
your
leadership
there
building
eye
is
up
and
running.
It
is
now
also
called
civic
central
which
may
have
caused
the
confusion
it
was
down
for
about
a
month
and
a
half
as
we
transferred
all
of
our
data
to
the
civic
central
platform,
which
is
essentially
the
same
platform
with
additional
bells
and
whistles.
I
I
We've
had
some
really
great
responses
and
stories
from
contractors
and
developers
and
members
of
the
community
who
use
building
eye
to
track
what's
happening
in
their
neighborhood
track,
a
specific
development
and
project
management
development.
So
it's
a
really
wonderful
tool
that
we've
come
to
know
and
love
these
last.
I
I
think
four
years
that
we've
been
using
building
eye,
slash,
civic
central,
it
is
up
and
running,
and
we
have
a
few
additional
features
coming
in
2022,
including
a
better
display
of
our
condemned
data,
better
display
of
city
funded
demolitions,
so
sort
of
a
page
on
that
building
eye.
That's
very
specific
for
that
and
some
reporting
tools
to
help
folks
run
data
on
what's
going
on
in
their
their
neighborhood
in
a
format
that
they
can
actually
play
around
with.
M
A
J
Bill
1905
resolution
amending
resolution
number
336
authorizing
the
city's
department
of
parks
and
recreation
to
enter
into
relevant
agreement
with
information,
age
technologies,
inc
for
software
subscription
services
to
be
used
at
the
city's
healthy,
healthy,
active
living
senior
centers
in
connection
with
data
collection
and
reporting
of
services.
The
allegheny
county
department
of
human
services
area
agency
on
aging,
as
required
by
separate
agreement
with
the
county
and
an
overall
price
not
to
exceed
fifty
five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
seventy
dollars.
A
J
M
You
I
want
to
thank
councilman
gross
for
noticing
these
properties
and
for
holding
last
week,
and
I
actually
want
to
hold
continue
to
hold
for
at
least
another
four
weeks.
M
It
was
really
the
uri
purchasing
the
properties
for
part
of
the
avenues
of
hope
and
hoping
that
eventually
they'll
get
to
the
additional
areas
of
zephyr
avenue
and
the
other
areas
here,
but
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
letting
property
go
without
knowing
what
the
plan
is
and
especially
in
on
zephyr
and
sherwood,
and
areas
that
have
already
been
so
impacted
by
our
poor
decision
making.
So
I'd
like
to
hold
it
until,
I
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
with
this.
If
councilwoman
doesn't
mind
for
another
four
weeks,
please
motion.
A
A
A
Second,
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
we
oppose
bill
is
recommended
that
does
exhaust
our
agenda
for
our
meeting
announcements
this
afternoon
with
sessions
at
1,
30
and
2
15
council
will
hold
a
briefing
with
the
office
of
equity
to
discuss
the
long-term
strategy
for
welcoming
pittsburgh
tomorrow
morning
with
sessions
at
10,
10,
30
and
11
a.m.
Council
will
hold
a
briefing
with
the
law
department
to
discuss
the
recommendations
and
updates
to
the
sunshine
act.
A
Next
week,
council
will
hold
the
regular
and
sending
committee
meetings
on
tuesday
october
5th
and
wednesday
october
6th
respectively.
At
10
am
speaker.
Registration
closes
at
9
am
the
morning
of
these
meetings
register
to
speak
at
the
next
week's
meetings,
fill
out
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
webpage
by
the
registration
deadlines.
You
can
also
call
the
city
clerk's
office
at
412-255-2138
or
email
city,
clerk's
office
at
pittsburgh,
pa.gov
any
motions
or
any
announcements
from
members.