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Description
Bill #2022-0270: Short-Term Rentals
A
A
All
right
for
the
record,
we
are
joined
by
council,
member
strasburger
and
council
ben
krauss.
Other
members
may
join
shortly
and
I'll
announce
them
as
they
as
they
join.
So
our
first
order
of
business
will
be
hearing
testimony
from
registered
speakers
once
your
name
is
called.
Please
state
your
full
name
and
address
for
the
public
record.
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A
C
In
order
to
counteract
these
challenges,
these
cities
created
a
policy
solution.
They
would
permit
airbnbs,
but
only
if
it
was
a
primary
residence.
Councilman,
krause
and
lavelle
touched
on
this
in
standing
committee.
The
original
spirit
of
an
airbnb
was
for
a
primary
residence
to
offer
a
spare
room
or
a
house
for
a
weekend
if
they
were
away.
In
this
scenario,
the
airbnb
owner
was
a
primary
resident,
the
connection
and
care
factor
to
the
community
and
not
an
absentee
landlord
or
an
llc
whose
primary
motivation
was
profit
and
not
community
stability.
C
Additionally,
I
would
like
to
of
strongly
offer
one
last
suggestion
to
the
ordinance
to
not
permit
multi-unit
buildings
to
be
utilized
as
airbnbs.
The
current
proposed
ordinance
states
that
hotels
and
bed
breakfasts
are
not
permitted
to
be
airbnbs,
but
multi-units
are
permitted.
We
must
ask
ourselves
the
question:
what
in
the
world
is
the
difference
between
a
hotel
and
a
multi-unit
owned
by
investors
and
filled
with
5
10,
20,
30
or
50
units,
with
the
exclusive
goal
of
being
rented
out
for
transient
stays
and
not
to
long-term
renters
who
pay
taxes
to
the
city?
C
Let's
just
call
this
multi-transient
airbnb
charade
for
what
it
is:
a
hotel
masquerading
in
a
legal
loophole,
as
my
wiser
mount
washington,
neighbor,
barbara
mckenna
noted,
who
could
not
be
here
but
has
submitted
separate
remarks
into
the
record
residential
areas
such
as
in
mount
washington,
fought
a
long
battle
to
be
zoned
as
residential
and
not
for
hotels.
As
someone
who
has
also
worked
for
our
community
lived
well
over
a
decade
from
mount
washington
around
as
long
as
councilwoman
smith
has
served
our
community,
I
believe
we
should
honor
the
promises
set
forth
to
our
community.
D
D
D
Besides
the
optional
annual
inspections,
I
didn't
see
any
does
the
public
have
to
take
pictures
and
videos
of
people
coming
and
going
what?
If
the
license
says
three
guests,
but
the
neighbors
see
ten
entering
a
house
every
week
we
can't
get
enforcement
for
our
over-occupied
homes.
Now.
How
will
this
be
different?
Why
the
optional
may
be
subject
to
annual
inspection
by
pli
with
the
two
weeks
written
notice?
Why
so
long?
If
you're
looking
for
infractions
that
gives
plenty
of
time
for
rooms
and
beds
to
be
reconfigured?
D
What
about
somebody
who
rents
a
single
family
home
to
one
individual
and
that
individual
then
proceeds
to
use
the
property
as
an
accessory
short-term
rental?
Is
the
owner
liable
for
the
infraction,
or
is
it
a
single
person
on
the
lease
who
then
turned
it
into
a
short-term
rental?
If
the
number
of
individuals
permitted
by
the
license
is
three
like
a
single
family
home,
can
each
of
the
short-term
rentals
then
have
a
guess
for
up
to
one
to
15
days
and
the
consecutive
15
days
cost?
D
Can
I
then
leave
for
one
day
and
come
back
for
another
15
and
who
tracks
that
timing?
Does
it
only
matter
if
there's
a
complaint?
What
about
parking
with
the
new
rpp
registrations,
a
short-term
owner
is
entitled
to
one
parking
permit,
as
well
as
two
visitor
passes
for
registered
guests
for
up
to
a
week,
but
the
guests
can
stay
for
up
to
15
consecutive
days.
That
sounds
odd
and
also
unfair
to
residents,
I'm
limited
to
one
visitor
pass
and
can
only
use
it
for
three
consecutive
days.
D
I
believe
the
language
in
both
the
rpp
legislation
and
the
short-term
rental
legislation
needs
scrutiny
and
to
be
in
line
with
what
true
long-term
residents
are
entitled
to
think
about
street
cleaning
days
in
neighborhoods
with
no
garages,
alleys
or
driveways
with
the
business
license,
are
neighbors
in
public
entitled
to
know
what
properties
are
being
used
to
short-term
rentals.
Would
there
be
a
sign
for
some
lice
of
some
license
posted
in
a
public
viewable
spot?
That's
all.
I
could
think
of
right
now
in
my
fast
planning
for
this
kerrig.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
A
Thanks
millie,
our
next
speaker
is
elena
and
saitsov
and
and
elena
you're
online
as
well.
So.
E
E
Regarding
regulating
and
licensing
short-term
rentals,
I
recognize
the
need
for
legislation,
including
involving
airbnbs,
and
commend
you
on
your
swift
action
on
it.
One
of
the
whereases
states,
short-term
residential
rentals,
can
impact
on-street
parking
and
traffic
patterns.
This
is
all
too
true,
however,
though,
recognizing
this
problem,
the
ordinance,
does
nothing
to
help
residents
in
this
matter,
and
the
new
rpp
ordinance
actually
allows
airbnb
guests
to
have
more
passes
than
rpk
residents
can
have
under
short-term
rental.
E
Permit
guest
passes
an
owner
can
have
their
own
pass
and
two
guest
passes
for
up
to
a
week
while
me
as
a
permanent
resident,
can
only
have
one
visitors
pass
for
three
days
at
a
time.
Where
is
the
equity
in
that?
At
some
point,
consideration
of
pittsburgh
residents
in
rpp
areas
has
to
be
given
for
their
daily
parking
challenges
and
not
allow
businesses
to
make
their
parking
challenges
harder.
There
is
a
reason.
E
E
E
We
can't
get
poi
to
investigate
known
occupancy
violations
now
when
proof
can
be
supplied,
this
ordinance
has
a
penalty
for
violations.
But
what
does
it
matter
if
violations
won't
be
determined?
Residents
are
aware
of
violations
but
get
ignored
anything
you
can
do
to
get
pli
to
make
this
a
priority
and
get
more
inspectors
would
be
appreciated.
E
A
F
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
lauren
brinjak,
I'm
the
senior
director
of
government
affairs
with
the
pennsylvania,
restaurant
and
lodging
association.
We
represent
over
560
operators
in
allegheny
county
and
more
than
4
000
members
statewide.
On
behalf
of
prla,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
addressing
short-term
rentals
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
We
support
this
effort.
F
Our
members
are
not
opposed
to
competition
from
online
home
sharing
companies,
but
we
do
believe
there
needs
to
be
a
better
regulation
which
would
not
only
level
the
playing
field
but
also
importantly,
ensure
the
health
and
safety
of
pennsylvania
residents
and
visitors.
With
respect
to
this
proposed
ordinance,
I'd
like
to
offer
the
following
comments.
F
Firstly,
we
support
the
proposed
requirement
for
owners
of
a
short-term
rental
property
to
obtain
and
maintain
a
business
license.
In
addition,
we
also
support
the
establishment
and
enforcement
of
occupancy
limits,
including
a
maximum
number
of
people
allowed
in
a
short-term
rental
property
at
any
given
time.
F
F
F
G
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
robert
cranmer.
My
address
is
3406
brownsville
road,
that's
right
over
the
carrick
line
in
brentwood,
I'm
the
owner
of
a
bed
and
breakfast
a
legal
bed
and
breakfast,
and
also
I'm
here
today,
representing
the
pennsylvania
association
of
bed
and
breakfasts
in.
G
Where
does
that
even
come
from?
You
probably
know
that
as
the
story
goes,
you
know
someone
goes
to
state
college
or
some
college
town
for
the
weekend
to
go
to
a
football
game,
there's
no
place
to
say
hey,
I
have
a
spare
room
and
I
have
an
air
mattress
put
it
on
the
floor.
Thus
you
have
airbnb.
G
When
I
chose
several
years
ago
to
turn
my
three-story
home
into
a
bed
and
breakfast
after
my
divorce-
and
I
was
in
the
house
by
myself
with
five
bedrooms
and
four
full
baths.
I
started
out
on
the
process
of
not
only
creating
the
bed
and
breakfast,
but
also
going
through
the
regulatory
approval
process.
G
I
had
to
go
to
the
borough
council.
I
had
to
provide
architectural
drawings
of
the
house.
I
had
to
abide
by
all
safety
requirements,
I.e
fire
extinguishers,
emergency
lightings.
I
have
to
provide
off
street
parking
in
a
parking
lot.
On
my
lot
for
all
of
my
guests,
I
had
to
go
the
county
health
department,
they
come
and
they
inspect
they
inspect
every
year.
They
look
at
not
only
cleanliness,
they
look
at
the
rooms
they
look
at
the
occupancy.
G
They
look
at
the
number
of
bathrooms,
so
I'm
not
running
some
type
of
a
flop
house,
so
you
have
to
go
through
a
lot
jump
through
a
lot
of
hoops.
Once
brentwood
saw
what
I
went
through
to
establish
my
bed
and
breakfast
legally,
I
might
say
they
then
reviewed
what
airbnbs
were
in
brentwood
wrote
a
legislation
like
you
did
and
basically
put
them
out
of
business
because
they
could
not
meet
the
same
standards
that
I
was
required
to
meet
now.
The
other
consideration
which
was
also
mentioned
is
the
hotel
motel
tax.
G
I
pay
sales
tax
and
I
pay
hotel
motel
tax
for
every
guest.
That
stays-
and
I
might
say,
years
or
20
years
ago,
when,
when
murphy
and
I
and
deweta,
put
together
a
plan
b,
a
large
part
of
the
funding
for
the
stadiums
and
the
convention
center
is
the
hotel
motel
tax.
So
if
you
have
hundreds
of
airbnbs,
not
paying
hotel
motel
tax,
that's
a
lot
of
money.
I
I
know
I
I
registered
with
the
county.
They
send
me
a
bill
every
quarter.
G
G
My
my
points
in
saying
that
these
thank
you,
robert
airbnbs,
have
to
be
regulated.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Our.
H
Okay,
it's
just
my
audio
okay.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
council
members
for
their
time.
Bobby
is
already
aware
of
this,
but
I
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
of
east
georgetown.
The
shooting
occurred
less
than
a
five-minute
walk
from
an
airbnb
that
I've
been
running
for
almost
eight
years
as
a
super
host.
So
this
strategy
affects
me
not
just
as
a
small
business.
H
But
also
as
a
resident
and
community
member,
I
am
active
in
the
cascade
board,
the
community
alliance
of
spring
garden
in
east
georgetown,
and
these
are
my
neighbors
and
friends
who
died
and
were
affected
and
this
senseless
tragedy.
The
proposed
legislation
and
we've
reviewed
it.
I
am
in
an
airbnb
hosts
group
where
we
have
analyzed
it
to
excruciating
detail,
does
nothing
to
prevent
this
tragedy
from
reoccurring.
H
I
would
like
to
reinforce,
though
I
think
most
of
the
speakers
will
be
focusing
on
business
issues
and
the
legislative
overs
overreach,
and
how
there's
been
a
backlog
of
you
know
necessary
legislation
for
short-term
rentals.
I
do
not
think
it
is
appropriate
for
this
backlog
of
legislation
to
be
used
under
the
guise
of
addressing
a
tragedy,
because
this
does
nothing
to
address
the
tragedy.
Nothing
proposed
in
the
legislation
would
prevent
the
same
shooting
from
reoccurring.
H
Airbnb
has
many
policies
over
the
years
that
everything
that
happened
that
weekend
the
underage
guests,
the
the
200
some
people
in
a
party
all
of
those
are
illegal
under
airbnb
policies
and
under
various
policies,
both
local
and
state
and
city
and
whatever.
What
we
need
is
better
enforcement
of
existing
laws
and
just
better
honestly,
gun
control
and
just
mental
health
support
systems
in
the
area.
Those
are
issues
that
I
focus
on.
H
I've
been
through
the
citizens,
police
academy,
the
the
mayor's
program
for
civic
leadership,
and
I
would
just
like
to
reinforce.
There
are
better
ways
to
solve
the
problems
that
keep
reoccurring
the
nationwide
tragedies
that
seem
to
happen
on
an
almost
weekly
basis
of
tragic
shootings
and
adding
additional
burdens
to
small
business
owners.
Like
myself,
a
lot
of
people
who
own
airbnbs
in
areas
are
like
me:
minorities,
immigrants,
women,
people
who
are
just
struggling
to
get
by
in
our
current
difficult
economic
times
with
high-end.
I
Hi,
my
name
is
chad,
wise,
I
own
property.
In
lawrenceville,
I
represent
steelstraw,
we're
the
steel
city,
short-term
rental
alliance,
we're
a
group
of
individuals
that
represent
concerned
citizens,
short-term
rental
operators,
part-time
hosts
cleaners,
local
business
owners
and
everyone
in
between
the
benefits
from
strs,
when
families
travel
from
out
of
town
to
visit
our
world-class
museums.
I
When
friends
gather
from
across
the
country
to
attend
steeler
games
or
when
netflix
cast
members
are
filming
in
town,
they
book
our
short-term
rentals
when
someone's
home
experiences
a
fire
when
a
family
from
overseas
flies
in
for
life-saving
surgery
at
one
of
our
globally
known
hospitals
or
a
yinzer
simply
needs
a
staycation
in
the
city.
They
book,
our
strs
having
str
well
distributed
across
the
city,
spreads
tourist
dollars
throughout
our
local
businesses,
rather
than
concentrating
it
in
the
downtown
core.
I
Additionally,
this
past
weekend,
when
students
from
across
the
country
or
from
across
the
city
were
graduating,
there
were
a
total
of
four
remaining
short-term
rentals
available
and
the
hotels
throughout
the
city
were
sold
out.
The
city
needs
more
places
to
stay,
not
fewer.
We
collectively
pride,
or
we
collectively
provide
a
uniquely
tailored
hospitality
service.
That's
simply
unmet
by
hotels.
I
We
know
that
the
vast
majority
of
hosts
act
in
good
faith
to
be
valuable
members
of
our
community
and,
as
we
continue
to
organize,
we
look
forward
to
helping
all
hosts
become
even
better
hosts
and
better
neighbors
in
the
future.
I
stand
before
you
all
today
to
unequivocally
state
that
steelshare
welcomes
effective
legislation,
the
key
word
being
effective.
I
We
ask
to
be
invited
to
work
directly
with
you,
with
other
city
leadership
and
with
other
community
members
to
help
develop
this
legislation.
With
your
experience
and
your
support,
we
can
help
to
prevent
and
eliminate
issues
that
can
negatively
impact
our
neighbors
pittsburgh
tourism
and
our
steel
stream
members.
Thank
you.
J
J
To
this
event,
as
the
opportunity
to
regulate
short-term
rentals
is
a
pivotal
moment
and
we
should
make
sure
we
aren't
drawing
misguided
conclusions
about
what
regulations
would
actually
help
create
safer
and
better
regulated
communities
in
discussions.
In
recent
weeks,
I've
heard
various
categories
of
airbnb
owners
be
suggested
as
possible.
Bad
actors,
llc
owned
properties
and
arbitrage
units
to
name
two
llc,
does
not
necessarily
mean
faceless.
Out-Of-State
corporation,
I
own
one
short-term
rental
in
the
name
of
an
llc,
because
I
co-own
it
with
a
partner.
My
partner
is
my
best
friend
from
college.
J
We
are
both
cmu
graduates
and
pittsburgh
natives.
I
live
five
minutes
away
from
this
property
that
I
co-own
within
this
llc.
In
fact,
I
live
closer
to
all
of
my
short-term
rentals
than
I
do
to
my
long-term
rentals,
which
are
in
swissvale
and
about
25
minutes
away.
I
live
in
beach
view
in
an
eight-unit
apartment
building.
J
My
only
two
arbitrage
units
are
in
my
same
building.
It
doesn't
get
much
closer
and
community
oriented
than
that.
I
deeply
care
about
my
neighbors
and
many
are
my
friends.
Everyone
in
the
building
knows
I
do
airbnb
and
has
my
phone
number
to
make
direct
contact
if
they
experience
any
issues
which
they
never
have.
I
have
a
reputation
to
uphold
with
my
neighbors
to
avoid
awkward,
contentious
run-ins
at
the
washer
dryer
and
mailboxes.
J
I
even
go
out
with
gloves
in
a
garbage
bag
the
day
after
trash
day
and
pick
up
all
those
little
bits
of
trash
blown
around
by
the
wind
from
my
building's
common
areas.
In
this
way
and
others,
I
would
say
my
long-term
tenant
neighbors
benefit
many
times
over
from
the
fact
that
they
live
next
door
to
an
airbnb.
J
My
guests
are
not
partiers
with
the
intent
to
commit
violence.
They
are
families
relocating
to
pittsburgh,
who
need
a
place
for
six
weeks
while
they
navigate
a
historically
brutal
housing
market.
They
are
traveling,
nurses,
doctors
and
architects.
They
are
hopeful
musicians
auditioning
for
the
pittsburgh
symphony
orchestra.
They
are
high
school
seniors
and
their
families
attending
admitted
students
day
at
point
park,
cmu,
duquesne
and
pitt.
These
are
future
residents
of
pittsburgh.
J
There's
also
families
attending
dance
competitions,
basketball,
tournaments
and
more
there's
folks
from
central
pennsylvania
who
just
want
to
take
their
kids
to
a
real
zoo
or
have
a
date
weekend
where
they
can
actually
go
to
a
nice
restaurant
and
do
some
actual
shopping
that
is
not
available
in
their
small
towns.
These
are
incredible
kind.
People
who
treat
the
property
and
neighbors
with
respect
airbnb
has
helped
me
get
back
on
my
feet
financially
after
my
entire
industry
was
decimated
by
the
pandemic
I
went
from.
I
was
a
group
fitness
instructor.
J
I
went
from
unemployed
and
accruing
credit
card
debt
to
finding
my
financial
footing
and
being
the
proud
owner
of
one
single
family,
home,
two
duplexes
and
two
arbitrage
airbnb
units.
In
addition
to
my
management,
company
and
personal
training
business
in
under
two
years,
I
am
not
a
faceless
out-of-state
investor
hiding
behind
an
llc.
I
am
a
pittsburgh
native
and
a
proud
beachb
resident.
Who
cares
about
our
community?
A
Okay,
we'll
come
back
to
that
at
the
end.
Next
speaker
is
cassandra
brandy.
A
K
I
am
giving
you
feedback
today
as
a
private
individual
resident.
I
am
not
representing
any
business
or
organization,
and
I
am
also
not
speaking
in
my
capacity
as
a
planning.
Commissioner.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
and
to
thank
you
guys
for
taking
public
input
on
this
proposed
ordinance
for
short-term
rentals.
K
There
are
a
few
areas
of
this
draft
ordinance
that
require
some
future
study,
and
so
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time,
studying
collecting
data
and
doing
some
more
research
and
really
looking
at
what
other
cities
have
done
as
prototypes
and
maybe
even
asking
that
your
zoning
staff
to
sort
of
weigh
in
on
on
this
ordinance.
K
I
have
a
couple
of
specific
comments
about
the
ordinance,
so
the
current
draft
of
the
str
ordinance
section
768.01
b,
regarding
the
total
number
of
occupants
right
now
refers
to
family,
limiting
the
family
section,
which
limits
the
occupancy
to
a
group
of
not
more
than
three
people
who
need
not
be
related
by
bullet
blood
or
marriage.
And
I'd
like
to
ask
you
guys
to
consider
rewriting
this
section
to
allow
for
more
unrelated
individuals
to
stay
in
an
str.
K
Perhaps
the
language
is
similar
to
what
is
currently
written
in
section
9
11.4.8.9,
a
one
like
the
bed
and
breakfast
that
talks
about
limiting
the
number
of
people
per
bedroom
plus
children.
Many
times
we
see
guests
traveling
here
to
visit
family
or
for
a
football
game,
a
hockey
game
or
a
wedding.
You
might
see
a
couple
traveling
with
another
couple
who
brought
two
children
and
those
two
children
brought
two
friends:
that's
four
unrelated
groups
of
people
or
you
have
a
group
of
four
couples
traveling
together
with
their
children
for
a
wedding.
K
None
of
those
groups
would
be
allowed
in
this
short-term
rental
ordinance.
The
way
the
draft
is
written,
I
think
they're,
wonderful
visitors
for
our
city
to
embrace
and
welcome
in,
haven't
you
yourself
or
your
friends,
travel
this
way
to
other
cities.
Do
we
really
want
to
limit
our
tourist
traffic
in
this
way,
and
then
number
two
is.
I
would
like
you
to
consider
extending
the
maximum
length
of
stay
to
at
least
six
months
after
two
years
of
coven,
we
have
seen
an
uptick
in
travelers
this
year.
K
Had
several
families
from
europe
stay
with
us,
they
are
eager
to
visit
and
stay
in
your
family.
They
haven't
been
able
to
see
for
quite
some
time
weekend.
Guests
are
average
guests,
but
each
year
we
generally
have
one
family
that
stays
with
us
for
three
to
six
weeks
as
they
prepare
to
move
to
pittsburgh
from
another
city
and
are
waiting
for
their
permanent
home
to
be
ready
here,
and
I
love
to
be
an
ambassador
to
help
somebody
become
a
pittsburgher.
A
A
Joel
you
can
begin
speaking.
Thank.
L
L
L
L
L
We
represent
approximately
two
thousand
rental
units
throughout
the
greater
pittsburgh
area,
most
of
which
are
within
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Seven
years
ago
I
was
pleased
to
be
part
of
a
team
assembled
to
regulate
short-term
rentals,
which
are
deferred
defined,
rather,
as
rentals
lasting
fewer
than
30
consecutive
nights.
We
recognize
the
need
to
operate
legally
and
we
have
always
welcomed
the
chance
to
work
with
members
of
city
council,
the
mayor's
office
and
departments
governing
zoning
and
occupancy
laws.
L
We
were
one
of
the
first
groups
to
support
14
hotel
occupancy
tax
and
we
welcomed
the
opportunity
to
be
taxed
as
such
and
regulated
as
short-term
rentals.
We
want
to
come
out
of
the
shadows
and
into
the
light
and
be
properly
regulated.
I
cannot
stress
that
enough,
together,
seven
years
ago,
we
drafted
legislation
that
was
simple,
straightforward
and
efficient.
L
L
L
A
Thank
you,
julie,
and
I
apologize
if
I
mispronounced
his
next
name.
Michael
subkoviak,.
M
M
We
mostly
do
airbnb
for
grad
students,
professors,
folks
who
are
coming
in,
and
I
appreciate
the
legislation
and
trying
to
move
forward
with
trying
to
find
a
legal
way
or
a
more
formal
way
of
of
handling
airbnbs
in
the
area.
I
think
the
challenge
for
you
out
there
is
in
the
legislation
right
now.
You
have
the
1
to
15
days.
I
think
we
need
to
make
it
29
days
or
less
just
clarify
that
I
think
the
other
thing
if
we
could
have
a
liaison
to
work
with
the
public
safety
right.
M
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
challenges
that
occurred
here
on
the
incident
on
the
north
side
is
that
even
the
police
showed
up.
We
need
to
figure
a
way
to
communicate
better
with
public
safety,
and
I
fully
encourage
that.
We've
had
issues
at
other
places
and
the
police
just
don't
know
how
to
handle
it,
because
it's
a
it's.
A
private
residence
or
whatever,
so
if
we
can
have
a
liaison
with
the
public
safety,
that
would
be
a
big
help
as
well.
M
My
neighbors
know
that
I
run
an
airbnb.
They
prefer
that
I'm
there
than
the
college
students
that
were
there
before
I
helped
cut
their
lawn.
I
shovel
their
driveways.
I
am
part
of
the
community.
I
live
five
blocks
away,
so
I
understand
the
importance
of
being
a
good
neighbor,
and
so
do
all
my
guests
and
they've
often
talked
to
my
neighbors
and
that's
one
of
the
things
they
appreciate
is
being
in
the
neighborhood
like
that,
which
I
think
anything
else,
but
no,
I
really.
I
think
this
is
a.
The
other
thing
is
llcs.
M
Two
of
my
properties
are
under
llc,
llc,
isn't
a
bad
thing,
it's
just
an
accounting
thing.
Sometimes
it
offers
you
protection.
I
have
full
insurance
on
all
my
buildings.
I
think
that's.
Another
key
thing
is
to
have
that
out
there,
but
you
know
I
fully
support
the
the
legislation
here.
Thank
you.
So
much.
N
Hi
there,
thanks
for
having
me
I'll,
be
really
brief.
I'm
a
super
host
in
the
east
end.
We
take
so
much
pride
in
serving
the
guests
that
reach
out
to
us
and
want
to
stay
with
us
and
hopefully
have
wonderful
visits
with
us.
Like
others
have
mentioned,
the
cmu
graduates
come
to
mind.
The
people
relocating
the
locals,
who
are
doing
construction
on
their
homes,
may
be
unexpected
construction.
N
Of
course
we
want
to
know
how
we
can
be
the
best
neighbors
and
serve
the
community
really
well.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
A
O
Great,
thank
you.
My
name
is
alondra
palmino
and
I'm
part
of
the
partnerships
team
here
at
minute.
I'm
sure
you're
wondering
you
know
what
is
that
we're
doing
here?
O
We
believe
travel
has
changed
tremendously
in
the
last
few
years,
and
short-term
rentals
are
a
way
of
travel
that
works
so
well
for
cut
for
families
for
couples,
groups
of
friends,
most
of
who
are
just
trying
to
get
to
know
a
new
area
and
are
doing
so
in
a
very
respectful
manner.
Data
shows
that
most
guests
are
actually
not
problematic
and
that
short-term
rentals
actually
bring
a
huge
economic
impact
to
the
area.
So
what
I
wanted
just
to
propose
was
you
know
before
we
look
at
legislation.
O
Perhaps
we
can
also
just
explore
some
of
the
tools
that
are
available
for
hosts
to
to
help
explore
how
to
do
this
in
and
and
in
a
way
that
helps
to
gather
data.
So
I
know
we
work
with
quite
a
few
owners
and
hosts
in
this
area
and
just
as
an
example,
I
believe
it's
94
of
noise
issues
are
resolved
within
15
minutes,
using
a
tool
like
ours.
O
So
if
that
is
the
case,
then
what
we
propose
is
looking
at
some
of
the
the
tools
that
are
out
there,
not
only
to
resolve
noise
issues.
You
know
pretty
much
as
quickly
as
they
begin,
but
also
to
help
draft
legislation
and
also
to
help
to
enforce
legislation.
We've
actually
worked
with
a
few
communities
around
the
world
to
create
pilot
programs,
so
certainly,
if
anyone's
interested
in
that,
please
do
reach
out
to
me.
O
P
P
I
since
2012
have
been
a
real
estate
investor
as
well
as
a
licensed
real
estate
agent.
I
am
aware
of
all
the
real
estate
laws.
I
take
continuing
education
and
I
help
people
buy
and
sell
their
homes,
I'm
also
an
investor,
so
I
purchase
ugly
homes
through
my
contracting
company
we
come
in
and
we
renovate
those
homes
and
then
try
to
improve
them.
For
the
city,
I've
been
a
short-term
rental
host.
Since
2017.
P
I
have
a
full-time
team
of
three
people:
a
maintenance
man,
two
helpers.
I
employ
a
number
of
other
subcontractors.
Like
cleaners,
electricians,
landscapers,
we
make
sure
trash
goes
out
on
trash
days.
We
make
sure
the
lawns
are
cuts.
Garden
beds
are
mulched.
We
actually
over
improve
the
properties
compared
to
a
long-term
rental.
All
my
long-term
rentals,
I
often
times
don't
mulch.
I
ask
the
tenants
to
they.
Usually,
don't
so
we're
we're
actively
improving
these
these
properties.
P
Over
five
years,
I've
hosted
thousands
of
guests
from
our
to
our
city
from
every
continent,
except
antarctica,
as
mentioned
before,
a
guest
for
pirates,
penguins
steeler
games,
the
museums,
all
the
restaurants,
I've
hosted
construction
crews
who
come
in
here
to
hang
hundreds
of
tvs
in
a
hotel
or
to
install
solar
panels.
At
your
neighbor's
house,
I've
hosted
families
celebrating
weddings
graduations
from
the
universities
and
also
for
the
medical
procedures,
which
I
think,
with
a
15
day.
Role
is,
is
a
a
really
limiting
thing
for
them.
P
Currently
I
just
had
a
couple
in
they
were
having
a
liver
transplant.
They
rented
my
house
to
have
a
comfortable
place
to
stay,
so
their
families
could
be
with
them.
They
were
staying
longer
than
15
days.
They
had
an
18-day
recovery
window,
they're,
not
the
first
person.
I've
had
a
mother
who
had
brain
surgery.
I
have
another
family
coming
in
this
next
week
that
their
child's
having
this
procedure
done
at
children's
hospital.
So
that's
a
really
viable
segment
that
I
think
needs
to
be
reconsidered.
P
Each
of
these
properties,
the
reflection
of
the
hosts
and
responsible
hosts.
My
concern
is
out
of
state
investors
and
management
companies
that
aren't
local
here,
I'm
a
local
person.
I
live
in
the
city,
I'm
a
professional.
We
have
a
brokerage
in
the
in
the
south
side,
where
I
hang
my
license.
I'm
reachable
I'm
actively
improving
mount
washington
and
as
a
resident-
and
you
know,
investor,
I
take
pride
in
the
properties
and
what
we
do
so,
I'm
for
responsible
regulations
that
allow
responsible
hosting
and
that
can
bring
economic
benefit
to
everybody.
A
Sarah,
if
you're
online,
you
can
begin
speaking,
okay
and
we'll
we'll
come
back
at
the
end
and
check
I
apologize.
If
I
get
this
well,
I
apologize
to
anyone
if
I've
mispronounced
your
name,
but
next
speaker
is
brian
hacka,
hack,
galactus,.
A
Okay
and
then
I'll
just
say
this:
if
anyone's
online
on
a
phone,
I
think
it's
star
six
to
unmute
yourself,
just
an
fyi
we'll
go
to
the
next
speaker,
carrie
reed.
Q
Q
We
are
fully
in
support
of
some
legislation
to
to
register,
to
register
and
license
short-term
rentals.
We
do
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
sensible.
However,
it
was
brought
up
earlier.
The
occupancy
limitation.
Q
We
did
have
one
one
rental
last
year,
where
a
couple
who
lives
in
lawrenceville
was
having
a
newborn
and
they
rented
our
property
for
a
month
so
that
they
could
have
their
families
come
and
go
at
their
convenience
because
they
could
not
host
them
at
their
own
home,
so
that
they'd
end
up
in
probably
higher
occupancy
than
the
proposed
ordinance
would
allow,
and
the
other
big
sticking
point
for
us
is
the
15-day
limit.
Q
We've
had
a
real
focus
at
our
rental
property
on
longer
term
stays.
We
had
a
family
of
four
come
up
from
atlanta,
while
the
teen
daughter
was
here
for
a
film
or
tv
production.
As
an
actress,
we
had
a
married
couple.
Relocate
here
temporarily,
while
they
explored
a
possible
permanent
relocation
to
pittsburgh,
so
they
were
here
for
six
weeks
we
had
a
retired
couple
visit
their
son
and
daughter-in-law
for
a
six-week
stint.
Q
Q
We've
had
international
carnegie
mellon
students
who
were
unable
to
return
home
during
the
during
the
winter
break
stayed
at
our
property
for
five
weeks
because
they
had
no
means
of
staying
at
the
at
the
student
housing.
Q
We
have
an
upcoming
stay
with
a
former
university
of
pittsburgh
alum
with
her
husband
coming
back
to
town
for
for
some
time
doing
research
at
the
university
for
the
entire
semester.
So
I
think
it
would
be
very
important
and
critical
for
us,
as
well
as
the
city,
to
make
sure
that
the
longer
term
stays
would
be
allowed
under
this
ordinance.
A
R
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
girl,
lorenzo
108
dunlap
on
observatory
hill.
I'd
like
to
thank
mr
wilson,
the
members
of
city
council,
civic
leaders
and
my
fellow
neighbors
for
hearing
me
today
in
large.
I
applaud
leadership
for
taking
actions
to
improve
the
safety
and
general
well-being
of
pittsburgh's
many
neighborhoods.
I
purchased
my
home
on
observatory
hill
in
november
of
2003,
just
a
few
more
months
and
I'll
celebrate
20
years
of
home
ownership
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
R
In
2018
I
started
offering
lodging
using
airbnb
and
the
neighbor's
house,
with
the
owner's
blessing
he's
actively
deployed
the
military
protecting
our
country,
the
pandemic,
put
in
all
stock
during
lockdown
for
several
months.
Outside
of
that,
the
property
is
operated
without
notable
incident.
Through
present,
the
police
have
never
been
called
to
the
property
as
a
resident
of
the
neighborhood
just
shy
of
two
decades.
I've
developed
great
relationships
with
most
of
my
neighbors
some
choose
to
live
more
privately,
and
I
respect
that
wholly.
R
Although
I
do
wave
at
everyone
that
passes
me
when
I'm
outside
doing
yard,
work
or
weeding
my
garden
as
a
respecting
neighbor,
I
made
it
a
point
to
talk
to
the
abutting
property
owners
about
the
property
being
used
as
an
airbnb.
The
largest
irritant
to
the
street,
with
or
without
vacant
housing
is
always
parking.
Every
new
guest
disrupts
parking
temporarily
until
they
figure
out
who
parks,
where
typically
as
a
homeowner
and
a
resident,
I
personally
do
not
enjoy
the
quick
turnover.
R
If
you
were
to
ask
the
neighbors,
which
they
prefer
new
faces
and
vehicles
every
two
weeks
for
a
new
neighbor
for
six
months,
you
will
not
likely
find
anyone
that
who
demands
a
rotating
door.
While
this
proposal
mentions
parking,
there
are
no
articles
that
dictate
how
many
vehicles,
any
given
property
or
dwelling
may
allow
I'd
be
lying.
R
If
the
street
hadn't
been
internally
discussing
a
push
for
permanent
parking,
while
it
would
be
more
convenient
in
theory,
the
reality
of
parking
enforcement
on
a
mostly
single
home,
detached
resident
street
would
ultimately
prove
for
a
more
frustrating
situation
for
us
all,
as
a
proposed
supplement
to
resolve
the
parking.
The
definition
of
allowable
vehicles
for
dwellings
should
be
based
on
bedrooms.
I
personally
limit
all
my
guests
to
one
vehicle.
I
do
not
allow
my
guests
to
entertain
guests.
The
property
is
a
single
family,
two-bedroom
home.
R
My
max
guest
limit
is
four
people
I
personally,
as
a
member
of
the
community
still
in
a
vehicle
to
one
a
reasonable
metric
to
dictate
the
limits
would
be
one
per
bedroom.
In
my
opinion,
if
this
legislation
aims
to
deter
tragedies
like
the
shooting
on
the
north
side,
the
15
day,
minimum
limitation
will
only
likely
promote
those
undesirable
activities.
My
guests
must
minimally
stay
for
seven
days.
R
I
object
to
the
guests
being
limited
to
the
15
consecutive
days
in
any
30-day
period
in
no
manner
will
prevent
any
undesirable
activities.
Behaviors
parties
are
banned
on
the
entire
platform.
Bad
actors
and
negligent
owners
are
responsible
for
the
most
prominent
negative
behaviors.
I
urge
this
governing
body
to
strike
this
completely.
I
do
so
as
both
the
resident
as
a
host.
In
closing.
Some
considerations
is
both
a
resident
and
homeowner
who
has
called
pittsburgh
home
since
2003,
as
well
as
an
active
host
for.
A
And
then,
if
anyone's
so
just
for
anyone
who
did
join
that,
we
skipped
over,
I'm
gonna,
try
and
see
if
he
did
join
now
or
in
the
past
few
minutes.
Let's
start
with
ellie
hayward
harward
cassandra,
brandy,
okay,
cassandra,
you
can
begin
speaking.
S
S
But
after
I'm
done
speaking,
you'll
understand
the
gravity
of
how
unnecessary
and
potentially
dangerous
these
proposed
regulations
are
to
start.
None
of
the
proposed
requirements
in
the
business
license
would
have
prevented
the
tragic
north
shore
shooting
on
april
17th,
even
if
the
host
would
have
followed
all
the
steps
laid
out
to
get
a
business
license
and
maintain
it.
Ultimately,
the
host
cannot
control
the
actions
of
guests
and
law
enforcement
needs
to
step
in.
We
do
not
need
to
make
more
regulations.
S
We
need
to
enforce
the
laws
and
violations
we
already
have.
For
example,
the
pittsburgh
parking
authority
already
has
58
infractions
on
the
books
that
can
be
used
to
control
traffic.
The
pittsburgh
pa
code
of
ordinances
addresses
noise
violations
and
excessive
noise
between
the
hours
of
10
pm
and
7
am
with
penalties,
starting
at
300
for
most
violations.
S
S
S
Traveling
nurses
brought
in
to
address
the
nursing
shortage
with
contracts
averaging
13
weeks
in
length,
and
it's
already
been
mentioned,
but
medical
destinations
are
very
popular
because
of
our
specialized
hospitals.
They
need
to
stay
additional
time
so
that
they
can
recover
go
to
follow-up
appointments
before
they
can
make
the
trip
home.
S
The
new
proposed
regulation
will
force
us
to
turn
away
every
single
person
I
just
mentioned,
not
to
mention
severely
limit
the
amount
of
tourism
revenue,
short-term
rentals,
bring
to
the
city,
as
I
stated
before,
I
do
not
believe
short-term
rentals
are
exempt
from
local
laws,
and
that
includes
anti-discrimination
prohibitions.
That
long-term
rentals
also
need
to
follow.
Platforms
like
airbnb
have
already
taken
issues
such
as
racial
discrimination
into
effect,
and
their
host
can
be
thrown
off
with
a
platform
for
not
following
their
policies
on
airbnb.
S
We
can't
even
see
the
image
of
the
guests
before
accepting
the
reservation.
A
business
license
will
not
help
curb
this
problem.
Finally,
the
proposed
regulation
should
not
require
the
owner
to
disclose
their
ownership
or
the
address
of
the
rental
property
and,
most
importantly,
for
safety
reasons.
Airbnb
does
not
give
out
the
exact
location
of
the
short-term
rental
to
help
us
as
hosts
prevent,
burglaries
and
god
forbid.
We've
had
people
escaping
domestic
violence
situations
and
if
their
abuser
could
find
out
where
they
are
they'd
be
in
danger.
A
T
T
So
simply
put
many
who
are
traveling
here,
desire
what
I,
along
with
so
many
of
my
amazing,
short-term
rental
owners
and
hosts
here
in
the
city
offer,
and
over
the
past
five
years.
I've
also
employed
dozens
of
staff,
members
or
staff
in
maintaining
my
homes,
which
include
everybody
from
cleaners
and
furniture
suppliers
to
small
business
contractors.
T
A
The
next
speaker
is
joy,
chen.
D
A
Find
it's
helpful
to
go
through
just
you
know,
people
that
may
have
joined
virtually
and
then
I
will
turn
to
anyone
that
didn't
register
and
and
would
like
to
speak.
You
may
have
the
opportunity
now
and
tom
you
wanna
come
up,
yeah
come
on
son
and
then
give
him
three
minutes.
M
U
Neighborhood,
well,
I
am
tom
barbusch
and
I
live
at
828
beach
avenue
on
the
north
side
and
it's
a
residential
district
that
has
some
airbnb
activity,
and
I
would
say
that
I'm
in
support
of
the
ordinance
that
you
councilman
have
put
together.
U
Airbnb
businesses
operate
on
my
street,
where
it
is
an
owner-occupied
house
where
they
have
the
proper
parking
where
they
are
on
site
for
management,
and
you
know
they
have
a
seven-room
house
and
they
rent
out
a
room
or
two
that,
in
my
view,
is
you
know,
certainly
one
category
of
airbnb,
but
there
are
other
airbnbs
that
operate
differently
that
might
have
might
host
a
rave
party
in
a
five-bedroom
house
that
has
no
parking
and
it
disrupts
the
peace
and
tranquility
of
our
neighborhood.
U
People
want
to
live
in
their
house
in
peace
and
comfort,
and
I
think
airbnbs
can
be
an
asset
to
our
city,
but
they
can
also
be
a
disrupter
of
one's
peace
and
tranquility.
U
So
my
suggestion
is
that
there
be
some
categories
of
airbnbs
to
be
established
and
accordingly,
maybe
they
fit
in
some
zoning
categories,
but
maybe
they
fit
in
others
airbnbs
that
operate
as
a
hotel,
where
there
is
no
on-site
management,
where
there
are
leases
daily,
where
the
occupancy
is
upward
of
five
people
or
ten
people.
Perhaps
that
kind
of
business
belongs
in
a
commercial
district,
airbnb
business
that
is
strictly
small
scale.
U
I
don't
know
how
to
categorize
small
scale.
Perhaps
you
do
but
would
fit
maybe
better
in
our
r1
districts.
So
in
closing
I
just
want
to
make
the
suggestion
that
some
categories
be
explored
and
take
a
look
at
the
zoning
ordinances
and
see
where
these
categories
might
fit
best.
U
A
V
Hello,
my
name
is
sarah
wilson,
I'm
with
my.
S
V
Is
sparkle:
property
management?
I
really
appreciate
you
hearing
me
at
the
last
minute.
Sorry,
I've
been
a
little.
N
V
I
started
out
just
managing
a
couple,
and
then
now
I
have
a
team
of
23
men
and
women
that
live
here
in
pittsburgh
and
depend
on
a
lot
of
the
income
that
comes
from
this
they're
all
contractors
1099
people
most
of
them
are
working
second
jobs,
and
this
is
a
way
that
they're
paying
for
saying
paying
for
trips
for
their
kids
and
it
really
does
benefit
the
community.
I
found
that
most
guests
at
these
properties
are
good
people
just
coming
to
visit
the
city
or
go
to
their
son's
graduation.
V
The
vast
majority
are
just
good
people
doing
the
best
they
can
they're
just
here
to
stay
for
a
little
while
and
they
leave
the
properties
in
very
respectful
condition.
I've
done
hundreds
of
cleans
in
the
pittsburgh
area
and
only
have
had
a
handful
of
issues
and
when.
V
Nothing
like
what
happened.
I
do
believe
that
there
should
be
some
regulations
and-
and
there
should
be
a
way
to
keep
people
safe,
but
it's
such
a
wonderful
thing
for
the
community.
It
brings
people
here
they
can
see
what
it's
like
to
be
a
pittsburgher,
what
it's
like
to
live
in
the
city
and
what
it's
like
to
enjoy
all
the
amazing
opportunities
that
this
city
has
they
stay
in
a
property
they
can
walk
to
the
incline.
They
can
do
all
these
amazing
things
that
maybe
they
couldn't
if
they
just
stayed
in
a
hotel.
V
I
think
it
is
a
great
opportunity
to
bring
people
into
the
city,
but
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
businesses
like
mine
and
others
like
mine,
I'm
not
the
only
one
out
there
by
any
means
to
provide
work
for
local
people
here
and
they're
again,
like
I
said
of
all
the
claims
very
rarely
do
we
have
issues,
and
it's
only
cleanliness
kind
of
things,
but
I
I
do
believe
there
should
be
regulations
to
keep
people
safe.
I
do,
but
I
just
wanted
you
to
kind
of
hear
what
it's
like
on
this
side
of
it.
V
Speaking
for
my
team,
and
probably
other
teams
like
mine,
that
do
the
same
thing
and
we
do
depend
on
the
the
income
for
for
our
families
and
and
for
our
lives,
and
it's
just
something
to
think
about
from
that
side
as
well,
so
I'm
in
closing,
I
won't
keep
you
any
longer.
I
appreciate
you
listening
to
my
perspective
on
it
and
thank
you
for
having
me.
A
Thank
you
all
right
at
this
time
we're
going
to
hear
from
members
if
they'd
like
to
to
speak,
we're
going
to
start
with
people
that
have
joined
as
as.
W
Can
I
can
we
do
that
really
do
appreciate
you
coming
out,
because
this
is
an
incredibly
important
topic
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
engage
but
more
than
anything,
I
really
wish
really
appreciate
your
willingness
to
engage
in
such
a
positive
manner
when,
after
the
tragic
event
that
took
place
on
easter
sunday
happened
in
council
when
wilson
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
I
was
clear
to
to
recognize
during
the
course
of
numerous
conversations
about
it
that
at
the
same
time,
there
was
a
family
on
the
first
floor
of
that
building
that
were
renting
through
airbnb
that
were
responsible
patrons
and
had,
thankfully,
left
the
the
establishment
before
anything.
W
Any
harm
could
come
to
them,
but
I
don't
want
it
to
go
out
there
that
somehow,
because
council
wishes
to
regulate
short-term
rental,
that
we
want
to
limit
that
to
airbnb
and
that
all
airbnb
is
bad,
because
that
is
not
what
I
believe
and
I
don't
believe,
that's
what
councilman
wilson
believes
or
this
council
believes,
but
we
do
believe
in
in
proper
proper.
I
hate
to
use
the
term
regulation,
but
for
lack
of
a
better
word
right
now.
W
One
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
here
several
times
today,
which
I
am
in
agreement
with
after
having
talked
with
a
very,
very
talented
land
use
and
zoning
attorney
about
certain
pieces
of
the
legislation.
He
suggested
that
we
were
looking
at
it
a
little
bit
backwards
to
recommend
a
minimum
or
maximum
stay,
but
that
rather,
we
should
be
regulating
a
minimum
stay,
which
would
certainly
address
the
short-term
rental
of
an
evening
or
one-time
rent
rental.
W
That
could
very
easily
be
rented
to
be
a
a
party
of
some
kind
and
would
certainly
assist
with-
and
we
heard
this
repeatedly
today-
long-term
renters
that
have
come
to
city
to
this
city,
whether
it
is
for
moving
going
through
a
real
estate
purchase
of
a
home,
whether
it's
for
medical
care
that
has
you
know,
could
last
up
to
six
months.
W
So
I
really
like
the
the
idea
of
regulating
a
minimum
stay
as
opposed
to
a
maximum
stay,
but
the
the
real
new
frontier
of
short-term
rental,
as
it
affects
the
third
council
district
in
and
what
I'm
seeing
more
often
than
not
is
retail
space
that
is
now
being
turned
into
short-term
rental
space
strictly
for
the
purpose
of
hosting
an
event,
and
it
is
primarily,
if
not
entirely,
for
a
single
night,
it
is
in
a
retail
space.
It
is
intended
to
host
an
event
and
under
pennsylvania,
liquor
law.
W
Any
of
these
establishments
can
be
byob
and
there
is
no
regulation
by
the
liquor,
control
board
or
liquor
control
enforcement
because
there
is
no
license,
and
so
it
is
becoming
the
wild
west.
It
is
a
a
completely
new
and
un
un
ex
previously
experienced
frontier
of
short-term
rental,
and
it's
causing
great
impact
in
a
number
of
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent,
and
especially
the
east
carson's
recorder,
which
we
are
seeing
this
more
and
more
happening
and
when
you
have
a
business
quarter
that
has
over
100
liquor
licenses
on
it
already.
W
W
We
spend
considerable
staff
time
in
the
office
trying
to
track
down
the
owners
of
llc's
that
are
largely
out
of
state
and
are
not
anywhere
near
as
successful
as
what
we
need
to
be
so
that
that
causes
a
great
concern
to
me.
So
I
don't
want
to
limit
or
lose
the
conversation
that
this
is
somehow
limited
to
one
company.
W
This
is
really
about
the
the
growing
industry
of
short-term
rental,
how
to
regulate
in
a
very
positive
and
contributing
manner,
and
to
minimize
negative
impact
on
both
business
and
resident
alike,
who
happen
to
live
next
to
or
in
close
proximity
to
a
short-term
rental,
so
appreciate,
councilman
wilson's
willingness
to
to
hold
the
legislation.
There's
been
a
lot
of
internal
conversation
around
it.
A
lot
of
good
ideas
have
have
come
to
the
forefront,
especially
today.
W
I
appreciate
your
input
and
your
contribution
to
the
conversation
and
promise
you
that
there
will
be
reasoned
and
professional
consideration
and
conversation
around
the
topic
before
we
ultimately
vote.
So
thank
you.
It
was
good
to
be
here,
yeah.
S
W
A
You
councilman
and
looks
like
you
got
some
calls
to
get
to
always
I'd
like
to
hear
from,
if
you're
willing
to
make
comment.
Council
person,
strasbarger.
X
Echo
a
lot
of
what
councilman
krauss
just
said
and
add
to
that
that,
although
I
heard
this
mentioned
by
at
least
one
speaker
well,
let
me
back
up
and
say
thank
you
to
all
the
speakers.
Thank
you
to
everyone
who
attended
today.
Thank
you,
councilman
wilson,
for
chairing,
but
also
thank
you
to
all
of
the
co-sponsors
and
leads
on
this.
I
know
also
councilwoman
gross
has
been
on.
X
For
many
years,
so
all
of
her
work,
I
hope
is
you
know,
is
taken
into
consideration
as
well.
X
So
I'm
glad
we're
now
focusing
on
this,
like
other
pieces
of
legislation,
I
think
that
it's
there
as
we've
seen
already,
there
are
tremendous
number
of
factors
that
we
have
to
consider
that
there
are
examples
from
other
states
that
we
can
look
to
to
see.
X
What's
worked,
what
hasn't
worked
the
considerations
that
were
brought
to
our
attention
today,
both
verbally
and
then
you
know,
submitted
testimony
that
we've
all
received
it
by
email
and
then
coming
up
with
other
ideas
that
might
come
to
the
table
from
lyanna's
attorneys
who,
whoever
else
and
then
deciding
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
pittsburgh.
I
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
have
a
cookie
cutter
approach
that
works
for
some
other
city
necessarily
and
assuming
it's
going
to
work
for
pittsburgh.
X
We
need
to
find
figure
out
the
method
and
the
policy
that
works
for
pittsburgh,
covering
again
as
councilman
kraus
said
not
just
airbnbs
but
short-term
rentals
altogether,
and
you
know
to
be
honest,
deal
with
a
whole
host
of
of
issues
that
I
I
think
one
piece
of
legislation
can't
necessarily
cover.
Yes,
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
what
might
need
to
be
adjusted
or
considered
when
it
comes
to
short-term
rentals
and
legislation
around
that,
but
also
parking
and
residential
permit
parking
in
some
cases
or
other
types
of
parking,
accommodations
or
regulations,
public
safety
considerations.
X
There
are
likely,
you
know,
other
parts
of
the
code
that
that
then
will
see
a
ripple
effect
from
this,
including
you
know
what
constitutes
a
family
in
pittsburgh
and
how
we
address
no
more
than
three
unrelated
and
a
in
a
residential
unit.
So
I
just
think
there's
there's
a
lot
here,
but
my
hope
is
that
I
can
work
closely
with
the
lead
sponsors
on
this
to
find
the
best
set
of
policies
for
pittsburgh
and
address.
As
many
of
these
questions
and
issues
for
a
really
sound
piece
of
legislation
for
pittsburgh,.
X
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Cal's
council
person
we'll
go
to
councilwoman
gross.
Y
There
you
go.
Thank
you,
mr
wilson.
I
also
really
appreciate
hearing
directly
from
the
public
on
this
issue.
Thank
you
for
everyone
for
turning
out
and
having
such
clear
and
concise
and
helpful
points.
I
took
a
lot
of
notes.
I
think
some
other
council
member
have
talked
about
the
kind
of
buckets
that
we
need
to
look
at.
What
is
the
length
of
stay?
What
are
the
occupancy
areas?
Y
What
about
parking
considerations,
and
this
conversation
did
start
six
seven
years
ago
now,
maybe
even
more,
if
I
look
back
through
all
my
original
emails
and
it's
nice
to
hear
from
some
of
the
people
who
were
in
the
original
conversation
and
that
we
all
acknowledge-
and
we
heard
input
today
about
how
the
dynamics
have
changed
over
time.
Y
It's
it's
really
good
to
hear
from
local
operators,
and
I
really
want
to
give
everyone
credit
for
also
being
self-organized
in
these
associations
and
sharing
input
about
how
to
be
responsible,
hosts
and
and
how
to
really
support
each
other
in
being
hosts
and
working
well
with
neighborhoods
as
hosts.
Y
So
we
have
some
good
solid
examples
of
the
models
that
we
want
to
encourage
and
that
will
help
us,
I
think
craft
policy
to
figure
out
where
the
mechanisms
are
to
help
minimize
the
nuisance,
behaviors
and
the
dangerous
behaviors
that
we're
seeing
around
airbnb.
Y
I
also
have
some
of
those
party
houses
in
my
district
and
six
seven
years
ago.
I
did
not-
and
I'll
just
say
I
don't
know
if
it's
related
or
causal
consideration,
but
the
places
where
there
are
party
houses
are
larger
houses
in
our
new
construction.
Y
I
don't
know,
that's
all
been
or
but
it's
something
I'm
observing,
and
so
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
material
of
shareholder
material
from
the
the
work
that
we
did
with
the
zoning
administrator
and
with
pli
many
years
ago,
and
I
think
some
of
that
has
been
helpful
in
the
current
language,
but
we
need
to
continue
to
fine
tune
it,
and
this
was
a
really
really
helpful
input
session.
So
thank
you
all.
A
Thank
you
councilwoman,
and
I
will
make
a
few
comments
here
one
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
speakers
that
came
in
person
and
also
online
that
join
us.
A
Virtually
there
were
parts
of
this
bill
when
it
was
introduced
that
you
know
I
didn't
agree
with
initially,
and
I
saw
that
knew
we
were
going
to
come
to
the
public
hearing
and
people
would
bring
up
those
items
and,
quite
frankly,
I
thought
it
was
useful
that
we
didn't
correct
some
of
it
prior
and
try
and
get
it
perfect
because,
for
instance,
the
the
two
weeks
or
14
days
that
was
put
in,
I
think
that
created
a
good
conversation
with
people.
A
You
know
even
today,
listening
to
understand
what
the
you
know,
what
owners
of
airbnbs,
short-term
rentals
think
would
be
appropriate.
A
A
I
did
want
to
mention
that
the
you
know
the
issue
of
of,
or
the
subject
of
short-term
rentals
first
came
to
me
in
the
past
two
years
that
I've
been
here
in
way
by
way
of
a
parking
permit
so
started
thinking
about
recently,
we
overhauled
the
residential
permanent
parking
and
started
to
include
you
know
an
option
for
for,
for
owners
to
to
have
some
passes
for
for
the
for
the
renters,
the
short-term
renters,
and
that
really
got
me
thinking
about
you
know
what
what's
out
there
and
then
what
it
occurred.
A
The
horrific
event
that
occurred-
really
just
you
know
for
myself-
I
just
really
you
know
bumped
up
made
it
a
priority
to
understand
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
can
really.
A
You
know
what
we
can
do
further
than
just
you
know,
trying
to
provide
a
better,
a
better
vehicle
for
you
know
parking
passes,
so
I
started
going
down
the
road
of
what
really
occurred
and
we're
still
learning
about
about
that.
You
know
what
it
occurred
in
east
town,
but
some
things
are
clear.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
inability
to
really
understand
who
the
owner
is
who's
renting.
A
It
you
know,
what's
all
in
the
unit,
there
are
several
different,
there's
all
types
of
data
that
we
can
gather
by
starting
the
process
of
of.
Actually,
you
know
putting
this
under
under
regulation.
A
I
I
started
to
meet
with
some
some
owners
and
in
particular
I'll
you
know
I'll
mention
the
the
the
acronym
is
or
the
somewhat
of
an
acronym
is
steelstra.
A
I
guess
the
last
part
of
it
is
steel,
city,
short-term
rental
alliance,
and
you
know
it
was
helpful
to
to
you
know,
because
I
wasn't
thinking
about
this-
that
there
would
be
a
group
or
some
people
have
mentioned
other
groups
that
have
started
the
form
because
they
realize
that
you
know
regulation
may
be
inevitable.
A
So
I
thought
that
was
really
helpful
to
to
have
an
initial
meeting.
I
think
what
I
got
most
out
of
that
meeting
were
a
couple
things.
One
was
the
data
was
that
there
is
data
out
there
and
we've
been
contacted
by
several
companies.
That
say
we
will
cross
check
what's
on
line
for
airbnb,
verbo
and
any
other
short-term
rental
properties.
A
But
I
guess
there's
some
database,
that's
called
dna
and
I
haven't
looked
into
the
validity
of
it,
but
I
did.
I
was
presented
with
some
data
that
was
interesting
about
the
amount
of
units
the
amount
of
units
that
are
that
are
actually
rented
in
each
neighborhood.
It
was
broken
down.
So
you
know
I
want
to
thank
some
of
the
owners
that
I
met.
You
know
about
that
data
and
that's
really
what
I
get
to
is
just
really
you
know
what's
out
there
what's
going
on
and
how
can
we
really
connect?
A
Which
points
to
the
second
point
that
I
I
you
know
came
to
during
that
meeting.
Was
you
know?
How
are
we
really
going
to
connect
public
safety
with
the
owners,
the
the
the
renters,
the
the
community?
I
mean
in
an
instance
where
you
know
there
is
an
issue
and
the
owner
is
called.
A
You
know
what
what
what
can
the
owner
expect?
You
know
if
there
is
something
that
is
is
happening.
That's
improper,
you
know
would,
would
you
know,
would
the
with
the
police?
Actually,
you
know-
and
you
know,
go
into
the
property.
A
You
know
if
they're,
given,
if
they're,
given
the
you
know
the
ability
to
do
that,
would
they
stop
what's
happening?
Would
they
you
know
how
far
would
it
go?
What
what
can?
What
can
people
and
owners
expect
out
of
some
regulation?
How
much
we
connected
to
public
safety?
So
those
are
all
the
things
that
I'm
I'm
going
through.
I'm
really
interested
in
that
first
piece
of
it.
I
know,
there's
a
bigger
conversation
we
had
about
zoning
and
and
what
this
you
know
what's
out
there
and
that's.
A
A
I
believe
the
the
staff
that
I
saw
was
less
than
one
percent
of
houses
in
each
neighborhood,
less
than
a
half
of
a
percent
were
being
used,
so
it
does
seem
like
it
provides
a
you
know.
There
are
those
well
if
a
half
percent
of
the
houses
are
being
used
as
as
airbnbs,
and
if
that
you
know,
data
is
correct.
A
You
know
that
that
makes
me
believe,
like
all
the
different
options
that
people
have
mentioned
here,
all
seem
like
regular,
useful,
creative
options
for
people
that
are
coming
to
pittsburgh
and
and
enjoying
pittsburgh
and
and
whether
it's
medical
or
or
for
a
steeler
game,
so
just
want
to
mention
to
the
public
that
I'm
looking
at
all
the
all
the
you
know
all
the
options
here,
taking
everything
very
seriously
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
spawn
the
sponsors
and
also
council
on
this
bill.
A
W
Me
add
one
more
comment,
please
yeah!
Just
briefly,
if
I
may,
many
of
you
are
probably
aware
that.
W
I
apologize
many
of
you
here
and
in
listening
in,
are
probably
aware
that
council
has
been
working
on
a
rental
registry
for
approximately
14
or
15
years
now,
and
it's
been
quite
an
experience.
W
24,
7
365
around
that
property
that
is
housed
within
that
llc.
And
I
think
that
could
be
a
very
important
component
in
this
approach
to
helping
to
manage
short-term
rentals.
W
I
I
believe-
and
I'm
certainly
not
trying
to
give
them
a
pass
in
any
way.
But
I
believe,
because
of
the
the
significance
of
the
tragedy
that
took
place
here,
airbnb
is,
is
really
really
present
and
wanting
to
be
a
part
of
of
ongoing
communication.
W
But
if
we
have
a
multitude
of
individual
llc
property
investors
that
are
are
doing
short-term
rental
and
they
are
housed
within
a
limited
liability
corporation,
it
really
does
limit
our
ability
to
communicate
in
real
time
problems.
That
could
be
happening
with
that
property.
And
so
I
will
I
will
work
with
councilman
and
and
other
members
here
to
ensure
that
their
the
conversation
around
having
a
local
responsible
agent
within
that
llc.
W
W
I
I
spend
the
entire
day,
probably
12,
14
hours
on
the
phone
on
monday,
because
I
deal
with
the
things
that
happened
that
weekend
either
thursday,
friday
saturday
or
sunday
nights
and
it's
very
difficult
to
communicate
to
property
owners,
the
disruption
that
was
caused
through
properties
that
they
own
on
a
monday
morning,
when
the
call
came
in
friday
night
at
one
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
so
I
it
just
stresses
the
importance
of
having
a
responsible
local
agent
that
we
can't
communicate
with
in
real
time
to
certainly
and
mitigate
problems
as
quickly
professionally
and
efficiently
as
possible.
A
You
very
much
thank
you
yeah
yeah.
The
only
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
is
that
I
mentioned
some
data
here
and
I
can't
help
myself
by
talking
about
data,
but
that's
what
I
want
to
get
to
is
is
really
on
our
side
understanding.
You
know
what
that
looks
like,
because
there's
a
lot
of
crosstrack
to
be
going
on
the
community.
Will
you
know,
identify
properties
that
they're
having
issues
with
and
and
then
you
know,
there's
a
lot
that
can
come
from
it.
A
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
collecting
our
own
data
trying
to
connect.
You
know
resources
to
the
community
as
well,
but
then
also,
you
know,
I'm
really
interested
in
the
in
the
pli
part
in
terms
of
the
run
of
business
in
the
in
the
neighborhood.
W
The
dynamics
of
pittsburgh
have
changed
drastically
over
the
years
and
we
have
clearly
exceeded
the
50
rental
mark
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
city
quite
some
time
ago.
We're
probably-
and
I
don't
have
definitive
numbers,
but
we
are
probably
close
to
60
of
all
property
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Residential
property
is
rental
property,
and
that's
I'm
not
here
to
to
you,
know
chastise
someone
for
owning
rental
property,
but
you
can
understand
the
the
the
challenges
that
that
presents
to
local
government.
W
You
know
to
be
able
to
understand
who
you
know
is
operating
that
property
as
a
business
as
a
business
and
making
certain
that
those
properties
are
contributing
in
nature
and
not
disruptive
in
in
nature.
So
it's
a
it's
a
real
challenge
on
all
fronts
for
us,
but
we're
we're
willing
to
take
it
on.
W
So
thanks
for
your
leadership
and
councilwoman
kell
smith
and
councilwoman
gross,
because
when
they
say
that
this
has
been
an
ongoing
conversation,
this
has
been
an
ongoing
conversation
for
many
many
many
years
and
unfortunately
it
took
a
tragedy
to
to
to
bring
it
to
the
forefront,
but
we're.
L
A
W
A
Okay,
anyone
else
all
right
having
exhausted
the
business
of
this
public
hearing.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.