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A
So
so
we
do
have
quorum,
so
we
can
begin
our
next
order
of
business
is
public
comment,
and
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
that
the
rules
of
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted
after
you
recall,
please
state
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Let
the
record
reflect
that.
We
have
also
been
joined
by
councilman
burgess.
E
E
We,
the
people
of
bonaire,
are
best
served
by
remaining
in
district
four,
I'm
going
to
read
the
letter
that
was
read
at
my
husband's
funeral
from
the
pittsburgh
veterans.
Firefighters
association,
authored
by
battalion
chief
douglas
krakovich
retired
deputy
chief
mike
mullen,
touched
the
lives
of
many
people,
his
uncompromising
dedication
to
his
sworn
duty,
to
provide
for
the
safety
of
the
citizens
of
pittsburgh,
where
it's
truly
exceptional
and
one
that
should
be
emulated
by
every
firefighter.
E
He
loves,
sharing
his
knowledge
of
firefighting
and
all
its
many
aspects
to
make
our
firefighters,
safer,
smarter
and
more
efficient
on
the
fire
ground
mike
knew
most
of
the
firefighters
on
the
entire
pittsburgh
bureau
of
fire
by
their
first
name
and
was
always
approachable
regardless
of
ranks.
If
you
had
a
question,
he
would
stop
what
he
was
doing
to
answer
it.
He
worked
tirelessly,
but
also
energetically
his
entire
career
and
pursued
more
knowledge.
His
legacy
will
serve
our
citizens
and
firefighters
for
years
to
come.
Mike
was
a
loving
and
compassionate
husband.
E
Father
brother,
relative
and
friend,
michael
j
mullen
lived
a
full
life,
as
his
obituary,
so
accurately
described
mike
was
passionate
tireless
dedicated,
highly
conscientious
and
caring
well
done
michael
well
done
rest
in
peace.
My
friend,
you
have
all
sworn
an
oath
to
to
uphold
the
us
constitution
and
pennsylvania
constitution.
E
City
council.
Are
you
for
the
people
of
bonaire
or
against
the
property
owners?
Do
you
stand
with
mayor,
gainey,
state,
representative,
venom
and
councilman
coghill
for
the
creation
of
a
green
space
to
replace
the
detrimental
school
building?
The
michael
mullen
green
stage
is
for
all
ages
and
stages
of
people,
jd
trees,
not
shady
deals
and
bonaire.
F
Dr
ronald
miller
of
belt
silver
taipei,
taiwan,
also
global
intelligence,
society,
u.s
national
candidate
for
president
2024
global
intelligence
society.org.
F
I
taught
family
very
frequently
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh
in
the
past
global
intelligence,
fuses,
optimal
info
intel
from
21
primary
disciplines.
That's
why
I'm
a
member
I
have
secured
memberships
in
more
than
30
of
these
disciplines,
so
we
have
current
information
coming
in
and
that
is
to
solve
problems.
F
F
If
you
pay
attention
to
iq
they're
in
the
top
five
nationally,
the
thai
pre-university
educational
system
is
with
within
the
top
five
in
the
world
and
of
course,
many
of
you
are
aware
that
taiwan
is
the
world's
number
one
producer
of
microprocessors.
F
As
a
u.s
citizen,
as
I
have
in
the
past,
I
encourage
tai
to
come
here
for
many
reasons,
among
them
being
securities
from
the
united
states
to
come
to
pittsburgh
and
bring
your
families.
A
concern
of
this
council
is
clearly
family
and
the
child.
I'm
going
to
quote
a
public
comment
that
I
made
22
september
2015,
wherein
I
offered
a
gis
solution
to
protect
our
children.
F
There
were
no
counselors
who
responded
at
the
core
of
my
public
efforts.
Is
the
child
in
pittsburgh,
the
united
states
and
the
world?
There's
no
one
place
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
where
children
can
go
ages,
5
to
15
at
least
to
be
safe.
So
I
propose
creating
a
system
of
what
I
call
kid:
globes
in
the
nine
districts
of
pittsburgh,
three
dimensional
ultra
advanced
material
spheres,
100
meters
in
diameter,
resistant
to
biological,
chemical,
physical
toxins
and
bullets
to
be
places
of
refuge
in
bottegas
of
education.
F
Each
kid
globe
would
initially
accommodate
250
kids
and
their
parents
or
guardians
and
staff
at
least
20..
The
kids,
most
desperate
in
our
city
would
be
able
to
enter
alone.
That's
my
view.
Kids
may
come
to
the
globe
for
refuge
from
sexual
predation
violence
to
escape
gender
prosecution
persecution.
G
G
When
it's
an
attorney.
The
walmart
capital
principles,
who
stated
they
live
just
two
miles
from
the
site
they
want
to
develop.
Their
intent
is
to
convince
somebody
that
they
have
only
the
best
entrance
at
oakland
in
mind,
not
true.
The
properties
they
plan
to
develop
belongs
to
pitt
and
upmc
the
board
of
upmc.
Do
not
live
in
oakland
over
the
walnut
capital
attorney,
who
does
not
live
in
oakland
met
with
representatives
from
council
over
five
days
when
he
drafted
revisions
to
the
very
first
version
of
1906
that
was
presented
to
you.
G
Could
be
made,
however,
we
have
now
seen
version
3
of
1906
being
trotted
out
with
substantive
changes.
To
quote
one
of
the
members
of
the
planning
commission.
Does
this
not
give
you
pause
and
convince
you
that
the
neighbors
have
been
left
out,
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
it
is
our
neighborhood
that
will
be
dramatically
affected?
We
brought
our
3d
printed
model
into
proposed
walnut
capital
development
into
council
on
25
may
for
the
public
hearing
about
1906..
G
Thanks
to
those
of
you
who
looked
at
it,
we
tried
to
show
some
of
the
impact
that
this
will
have
in
south
oakland
and
show
building
dimensions
that
the
proposed
zoning
will
permit.
But,
besides
the
height
and
length
of
buildings,
there
are
other
issues
such
as
lighting
and
signage
that
have
not
that
have
been
hard
to
figure
out.
We
get
no
answers
except
to
read
the
legislation.
G
There
has
never
been
a
true
back
and
forth
communication
about
1906,
even
though
we'll
have
a
new
enormous
and
detrimental
effectiveness
permitted.
As
the
legislation
now
stands,
even
our
3d
model
cannot
be
shown
to
all
members
of
the
council
or
even
to
mayor
gainey's
office.
There
is
no
mechanism
for
that
to
happen,
and
some
specifics
about
1906
the
affordable
housing
that
wanna
is
agreed
to
depends
upon
vouchers
being
available
and
not
already
used
up,
so
there's
no
guarantee.
G
It
also
appears
that
inclusionary
zoning
legislation
is
being
held
up
by
court
case,
so
walnut
capital
reading
to
abide
by
iz
may
mean
nothing
at
all,
no
guarantee.
There
are
other
places
in
the
zoning
legislation
where
it
appears
that
the
zoning
administrator
can
eliminate
requirement
of
their
developer
compliance.
If
they
say
they
cannot
do
portions
of
the
project
within
the
zoning
requirements,
so
there's
no
guarantee
of
compliance.
This
is
bad
legislation
and
bad
process.
Please
do
not
pass
2021-1906.
H
I
am
elena
zaydsoff.
I've
lived
in
south
oakland
for
42
years,
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
ordnance,
2021
1906,
the
walnut
capital
rezoning
of
part
of
oakland,
as
we
have
learned
the
hard
way
about
zoning
in
oakland.
What
could
be
built
with
this
rezoning
has
to
be
considered,
not
the
pretty
pictures
we
are
shown.
The
planning
commission
recommended
that
additional
section
drawings
be
given
to
you,
so
you
could
see
the
impact
on
residential
areas
since
they
never
materialized.
H
I
would
like
to
invite
you
to
oakcliff
for
the
ribbon
cutting
of
our
new
playground.
It
is
tomorrow
at
3.
30.
oakcliff
is
thankful
that
city
council
members
voted
to
permit
us
to
rename
that
playground.
A
visit
to
oakcliff
will
give
you
some
context
for
this
rezoning
as
the
playground
is
very
near.
The
eisley
site,
part
of
the
eisley
site
is
proposed
to
have
maximum
height
of
85
feet
and
the
other
part
at
185
feet.
Mcgee
hospital
is
just
five
stories
making
its
height
about
75
feet.
The
condos
nearby
are
two
stories.
185
feet.
H
H
Halcott
street
from
panera
to
luisa
street
also
has
a
max
of
185
feet.
40
foot
high
cold
tart
houses
are
behind
these.
This
is
the
start
of
making
coal
tart
a
canyon.
The
section
of
halcoot
needs
to
be
85
feet
for
the
same
reason,
the
eisley
site
in
front
of
the
niagara
condo
stories
and
the
niagara
two-story
condos
is
85
feet.
The
rest
of
halcon
has
a
max
of
120
feet
with
coal
tart
houses
behind
it.
It
also
needs
to
have
its
max
lowered
to
85
feet
with
me
gee
hospital
at
75
feet.
H
There
is
no
context
for
120
feet
or
185
feet.
High
buildings
developers
will
build
to
the
max
dimensions,
allowed
imagine
a
height
of
185
feet
more
than
double
the
height
of
mcgee
hospital
and
make
it
400
feet
long.
That
mass
does
not
belong
next
to
coal,
tart
street
or
adjacent
to
residential
oath.
Lift
the
argument
that
400
feet
is
needed
for
trucks
to
unload
inside
a
grocery
is
not
supported
by
other
grocery
stores.
H
In
the
area
there's
no
requirement
a
grocery
will
even
be
built,
it
seems
a
justification
was
needed
and
knowing
a
grocery
store
appealed
to
residents,
it
became
the
reason
for
400
feet,
even
if
it
was
desired
for
the
grocery
allowing
it
in
zoning
for
all
buildings
is
irresponsible.
Other
processes
can
be
used
for
that.
One
application.
H
A
So,
mr
fritz,
apparently
you
have
an
older
version
of
zoom,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
to
you
today,
which
means
our
next
speaker
is
liz.
Reed.
I
Here
I
am
chris
is
actually
my
husband
and
he's
just
on
another
device
in
the
basement
and
he's
unable
to
unmute,
so
he
will
come
on
this
device
after
or
he
could
come
speak
now.
If
you
should
go
first.
I
All
right,
so
my
name
is
liz
reed
I
live
in
staten
heights.
Chris
is
my
husband
he's
a
recycling
loader
in
the
division
of
environmental
services
in
the
department
of
public
works.
He
started
this
job
in
february
2021
and
has
received
outstanding
reviews
from
his
supervisor
on
april
6.
He
sustained
a
work-related
injury
thought
it
would
go
away
just
tried
to
take
it
easy,
but
was
still
working
at
that
time
used
medical
marijuana.
I
He
had
previously
purchased
as
an
mmj
patient
in
pa,
but
that
because
he
wasn't
a
heavy
user,
that
he
let
his
membership
lapse
or
whatever
it's
car
called
the
card
laps.
He
reported
the
injury
on
on
april
12th.
He
was
put
on
leave.
He
did
the
required
drug
test,
went
to
physical
therapy
and
the
issue
resolved
went
back
to
work
may
3rd
and
4th
worked
both
days.
Then,
on
friday
may
5th
went
to
work
and
received
a
suspension
letter
saying
he
had
violated
the
city's
drug
policy.
I
At
that
time
he
was
instructed
to
write
an
appeal
letter
asking
for
his
job
back.
He
wrote
the
letter
and
then
was
offered,
what's
called
a
quote
last
chance
agreement,
which
required
a
track
three
recovery
program
to
be
followed,
so
basically
he's
required
to
attend
intensive
outpatient
drug
treatment
and
pledge
not
to
use
any
drugs
or
alcohol,
including
medical
marijuana
for
one
year.
I
He
obviously
if
this
was
his
only
option
versus
losing
his
job.
He
couldn't
turn
that
down
because
our
family
is
dependent
on
the
city
health
insurance.
So
he
is
now
in
intensive
outpatient
treatment
for
occasional
medical
marijuana
use
the
city's.
The
policy
also
that
he
agreed
to
states
quote
the
unlawful
manufacturer,
distribution,
dispensing
possession
or
use
of
a
controlled
substance
while
on
city
property
or
while
conducting
city
business,
is
strictly
prohibited.
I
He
was
not
in
violation
of
the
policy.
It's
also
worth
noting.
This
policy
was
last
updated
in
2015
one
year
before
the
state's
medical
marijuana
program
was
implemented.
So
our
concerns
are
several
one
environmental
services
severely
understaffed.
He
can
and
should
be
working
and
wants
to
be
working
he's,
taking
up
a
seat
in
an
intensive
outpatient
program,
28
hours
a
week
with
people
who
have
serious
substance,
use
disorders.
We
all
know
how
much
these
services
are
needed
in
this
region.
Somebody
who
actually
needs
these
services
should
be
there
and
not
him.
J
Hi
thanks
I'm
a
garbage
man
for
the
city.
I
don't
have
a
cdl
as
a
refused
loader,
I'm
not
required
by
the
city
to
have
a
cdl
license,
but
because
of
the
policy
the
the
drug
policy
is.
It
covers
my
job
as
well.
I
was
not
clear
on
that
policy
when
I
took
the
job
with
the
city.
Otherwise
I
obviously
would
have
tried
to
find
an
alternative
for
the
medical
marijuana
that
I
use
for
chronic
pain,
including
migraines
and
sciatica
pain
that
I've
had
for
almost
a
decade.
J
J
I
want
to
be
a
garbage
man
for
the
city,
continue
my
employment
and
I'm
really
I'm
really
frustrated,
because
I
want
to
provide
for
this
city.
I
want
to
provide
for
my
family
and
for
some
reason,
I'm
not
able
to
do
that
because
of
outdated
city
policy.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
J
I
appreciate
you
listening
to
my
concerns
and
I
look
forward
to
the
city
updating
their
policy,
as
it
reflects
state
legal
america,
my
legal
medical
marijuana
use
and
also
some
some
issues
for
the
new
job
descriptions
that
they
have.
J
A
K
K
Only
citizens
as
I
passed
the
restaurant
on
smithfield
street.
I
seen
this
sign.
It
says
father
gainey,
shelter
for
the
homeless,
414
grant
street
pittsburgh
pa
one
five,
two
one,
nine,
the
phone
number
that
says
call
four
one.
Two,
two
five,
five
two,
you
know
that's
the
mayor's
number,
two,
five,
five,
two
six,
two
six.
It
says
our
counselors!
That's
what
begins.
I
guess
are
standing
by
and
ready
to
help
you
if
you're
homeless,
unsheltered
or
have
no
place
to
go
and
you're
in
pittsburgh.
Come
come.
K
Father,
come
to
father,
gainey's,
set
up
your
tent,
your
tarp,
your
grates,
your
blankets
or
whatever
makeshift
shelter.
You
have.
This
space
is
in
front
in
front
and
in
the
back
of
the
building
to
keep
you
dry
and
out
of
the
elements
doing
in
inclement
weather.
You
are
welcome
here.
No
one
will
judge
you
make
you
move
harass
you,
you
are
all
god's
children
and
there's
a
safe
place.
No
one
will
be
turned
away
now.
K
When
I
sing
this,
I
know
I
walk
past
and
this
is
look
to
me
like
a
black
priest
and
I
said
who's
that
then
I
think
that's
that's
our
mayor.
Okay.
So
when
I
go
in
in
the
restaurant
and
ask
what
I
make
get
a
copy
of
this,
he
said
I
could
take
it,
but
as
I'm
going
to
take
it
off,
I
hear
the
citizens.
People
in
the
restaurant
speaking
about
andy
sheen
is
down
there
questioning.
What
did
the
mayor
do?
Mayor
peduto
do
with
the
homeless
the
money
for
the
homeless.
K
He
says:
angie
sheehan
is
questioning
people
okay.
So
then
he
tells
me
he
has
said
something
about
a
lawyer
and
tell
me
that
you
call
this
number
up
here
and
they'll.
Tell
you
and
I
I
went
back
to
him.
I
said
sir:
that's
the
mayor's
office.
He
was
telling
me
he
said
the
lawyer
wrote
this
paper,
that's
what
he
was
telling
me
not
that
this
was
a
lawyer.
K
I
mean
that
this
is
the
number
you
should
call
I'm
bringing
this
to
your
attention,
because
yesterday
and
to
you,
mr
burgess,
I
want
you
to
explain
to
me
where's
the
documented
proof
that
what
I
said
was
not
true
that
the
citizens
that
are
in
our
jail
are
getting
feces
in
your
food
and
the
ones
had
a
part
of
a
dead
bird
in
there.
You
said
that
I
was
that
what
I
said
was
not
right.
I
want
to
know
you
to
you
your
program
in
there.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
anyone
else
with
us
in
chambers
wishing
to
speak,
seeing
no
one
that
moves
us
to
our
standing
committee's
agenda?
We
have
our
deputy
mayor
with
us
this
morning,
so
I'm
gonna
go
a
little
out
of
order,
feel
free
to
come
to
the
table.
I'm
gonna
move
to
page
seven
and
take
the
recommitted
papers.
A
A
D
Thank
you,
director,
paula
good
morning.
How
are
you
thank
you
for
being
here?
I
appreciate
your
your
willingness
to
engage
council
on
the
topic.
D
Be
there
this
is
a
very
important
bill,
as
are
all
I
have
some
workers
here
at
the
house,
and
I
need
to
be
here,
and
so
I
apologize
and
appreciate
your
indulgence
so
just
for
the
edification
of
anybody
who
might
be
watching
it
for
members.
That
might
not
be
aware,
director
pollock
and
I
met
about
a
week
before
the
bill
came
up
for
consideration.
D
Excuse
me
last
week
and
had
a
very
honest,
open
conversation
about
the
training
facility
where
we
are
and
what
the
possibilities
are
of
actually
getting
the
the
project
started.
Okay
and
so
the
monies
as
I
understand
it,
director
just
for
the
edification
of
everybody
here
in
the
conversation,
the
monies
in
the
two
bills
of
377
and
398
are
dollars
that
were
allocated
to
the
public
safety
training
facility
project
sort
of
as
starter
funds.
D
O
I,
generally
speaking
yes,
I
was
not
in
the
office
of
management
and
budget
at
the
time,
so
I
don't
know
the
exact
intent
or
what
was
viewed
as
the
deliverable
for
that
phase
of
the
project
at
the
time.
But
it's
correct
to
say
that
these
were
the
early
funds
necessary
to
initiate
a
project.
But
you
know
it's
a
very
large
site
and
would
be
a
much
larger
project
price
tag,
all
included
and
would
require
further
appropriation
down
the
line.
That's
definitely
true.
D
D
You
know
very
broad
statement,
but
across
the
board,
and
not
just
here
in
pittsburgh,
but
you
know
we
read
in
the
news
every
day
every
city
is
grappling
with
with
their
public
safety
departments
and
and
to
be
able
to
deliver
services
that
constituency
clearly
are
entitled
to.
So
I
I
appreciate
that
we
may
not
be
ready
to
launch
the
no.
D
We
may
not
be
ready
to
put
shovels
in
the
ground
per
se
on
the
project,
but
am
I
mistaken
to
to
think
that
the
what
amounts
for
about
a
million
dollars
could
be
used
to
do
things
like
a
demo
on
on
buildings
on
the
site
that
will
ultimately
need
to
come
down?
D
Could
we
do
asbestos
and
lead
remediation
in
buildings
that
we
are
going
to
keep
how
about
core
sampling
comes
to
mind
if
we
are
certainly
going
to
be
obligated
at
some
point
in
time
to
do
some
core
sampling
on
the
site?
Would
that
would
these
funds
be
appropriate
for
that
engineering,
engineer,
drawings,
those
kinds
of
things
would
it
seems
to
me
this
month.
This
money
could
be
used
as
kindling
to
start
the
fire
right.
D
I
know
we're
not
at
this
phase
where
we
have
a
raging
fire,
but
we
need
to
start
it,
and
so
I'm
worried
that
if
we
subtract
these
funds
from
the
project,
we
may
never
have
another
opportunity
to
sort
of.
You
know
another
piece
of
flint
to
kick
start
that
project
and
it
could
fall
by
the
wayside
so
with
that
director.
Thank
you
I'll
turn.
It
oh
and
one
other
thing
in
the
process
of
this.
D
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
believe
we
still
pay
a
lease
to
ccac
for
the
use
of
their
campus
for
a
training
facility.
So
there's
there's
still
money
going
out
in
rent
that
we
need
to
account
for
as
well.
But
with
that
I
will
stop
director.
Oh
one
last
thing
I
apologize
the.
I
know
the
funds
want
to
be
re-uh
allocated
to
the
pen
circle
to
a
conversion
project.
D
If
I
understand
the
or
our
financial
state
of
affairs.
So
far,
there
was
a
approximately
a
2.2.8
million
dollar
allocation
out
of
our
funds
for
that
project.
So
are
these:
are
we
coming
up
short
by
a
million
on
the
project
and
that's
why
the
idea
to
subtract
these
funds
and
add
to
it
or
are
being
put
on
the
table?
I
know
that's
a
lot.
I
apologize
and
I'll
be
happy
to
revisit
any
questions
you
might
have.
As
you
give.
O
Your
comments
sure
thank
you,
councilman
I'll
answer,
the
last
question
first
and
the
the
answer
there
is
that
you
are
correct,
as
with
many
of
our
capital
projects,
and
the
city
government
is
by
no
means
alone
in
this
this
year,
as
a
result
of
inflation
and
price
escalation
in
building
materials.
O
Many
projects
of
this
type
are
seeing
significant
cost
overruns,
and
this
is
one
of
them,
so
the
project
is
going
to
cost
a
little
over
than
a
million
dollars
more
than
was
originally
budgeted,
and
that
is
the
reason
that
we're
pursuing
this
transfer.
It
is
a
the
pen.
Circle
project
is
a
completely
shovel
ready
project
that
could
begin.
O
You
know
within
a
month
or
so,
if
fully
appropriated
to,
and
in
fact
we
are
on
a
bit
of
a
ticking
clock,
if
you
will
on
the
expiration
of
the
pricing
for
the
materials
that
we
have
now,
meaning
that
if
we
don't
move
quickly,
the
cost
overruns
will
only
increase
and
imperil
our
ability
to
deliver
that
project
this
year,
which
we
otherwise
would
be
able
to
do
with
these
funds.
O
So
that
was
the
rationale
behind
making
a
move
of
funds
into
this
project
to
cover
the
unanticipated
cost
overage
from
inflation
and
ensure
that
that
project
was
completed
this
year
to
your
broader
set
of
questions
about
the
public
safety
training
facility
in
a
general
sense,
all
or
at
least
most
of
the
activities
that
you
described
could
be
conducted
with
capital
budget
dollars.
But
again
I'll
just
say
that
that
we
are
not
in
a
position
on
that
project
to
get
any
even
any
of
those
activities
under
contract
this
year.
O
For
a
variety
of
reasons,
you
know
we're
not
yet
sure,
because
we
don't
have
even
conceptual
designs
what
buildings
should
be
investigated
for
being
retained
versus
demolished.
So
we
would
be
getting
ahead
of
ourselves
frankly
and
demolishing
some.
I
know
that
was
just
an
example
you
gave,
but
I'm
just
sort
of
illustrating
the
point
that
we
are.
O
We
are
simply
not
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
get
any
dollars
under
contract
here
this
year,
and
so,
given
that
we
in
comparison
to
that,
have
a
shovel
ready
project
that
is
just
in
need
of
a
small
infusion
of
money
to
to
be
completed.
We
felt
that
was
a
prudent
step
to
bring
the
council
for
consideration.
O
I'll,
also
note
very
quickly
that
these
are
2019
and
2020
bond
funds,
and
we
have
some
obligations
to
the
federal
government,
particularly
the
irs,
to
spend
bond
funds
in
a
timely
manner.
So
we
are
reaching
sort
of
the
end
of
that
countdown
clock
with
these
dollars
as
well.
O
So
it
would
be
more
appropriate,
in
my
view,
from
a
fiduciary
standpoint
from
our
the
point
of
view
of
our
collective
fiduciary
responsibility
to
the
city,
to
move
these
funds
and
spend
them
this
year
on
a
worthy
project
and
then
to
allocate
new
funds
in
a
future
budget
year
to
the
public
safety
facility.
O
So
as
to
be
using
fresher,
if
you
will
bond
money
for
that
purpose,
rather
than
allowing
it
to
continue
to
sit
in
the
bank
account,
so
those
are
all
the
reasons
that
we
proposed
this.
This
switch
I'll
reiterate
a
point
I
made
at
last
week's
meeting.
It
is
not
and
should
not
be
perceived
as
a
step
away
from
the
facility.
We
very
much
need
a
new
public
safety
training
facility.
O
Some
of
the
existing
facilities
along
washington
boulevard
need
to
be
relocated
both
because
they're,
old
and
because
well,
they
need
to
be
replaced
because
they're
old
and
they
need
to
be
relocated
because
they're
in
an
active
flood
plain
and
we're
not.
You
know
not
in
any
way
suggesting
that
that
situation
does
not
need
to
be
rectified
soon,
but
it
is
not
going
to
be
rectified
this
year
and
in
the
meantime,
we
have
another
project
that
that
we'd
very
much
like
to
see
completed.
That's
that's
the
long
and
short
of
it.
D
Yeah
no-
and
I
appreciate
that
director
when
I
first
came
on
the
council,
I
chaired
the
public
safety
committee
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
actually
go
to
the
training
facility
where
I
met.
Who
was
one
day
to
become
our
commander
karen
dixon,
because
the
training
facility
had
flooded
and
they
were
in
desperate
need
of
some
help
and
some
additional
equipment
and
an
exercise
space
that
had
been
damaged
by
the
flooding
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
so
that
was
15
years
ago,
and
you
know
we
still
haven't
committed
fully.
D
Yet
you
know
mayor
peduto
used
to
say
budgets
are
a
reflection
of
our
priorities
and
actually
I've
heard
mayor
gainey
say
exactly
that
as
well
too,
and
this
council
believes
that
as
well
and-
and
you
know
we're
just
given
all
of
us-
we
all
of
us
you,
the
mayor
council,
are
just
given
the
very
difficult
choice
of
yes
and
no
we
never
get
to
do.
Maybe
we
can
only
say
yes
and
no,
and
so
you
you
brought
up
that
it's
an
active
floodplain
there.
That
worries
me.
D
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
visit
the
the
shooting
range.
I
know,
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
councilman
gross
and
you
will
correct
me
please
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
do
believe
there's
a
desire
to
bring
that
inside
once
again
and
not
be
an
outdoor
range
I'll
stand
corrected.
If
that's
not
true,
but
councilman.
O
If
I
may,
I
yeah
please,
I
live
in
highland
park
very
near
the
range,
and
I
can
confirm
that
that
is
the
fervent
desire
of
my
neighbors,
who
who
never
miss
an
opportunity
to
remind
me
of
that
and
again
I'm
sympathetic
to
to
that
to
that
desire.
I
think
it
is
in
the
long-term
interest
of
the
city
to
make
a
move
like
that.
O
So
again,
the
question
is
is
not
whether
we
believe
we
need
to
move
in
that
direction,
which
I
think
there
is
a
consensus
that
we
do
it's
whether
we
can
make
meaningful
progress
on
that
in
this
budget
year.
So
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt.
D
So
director
can,
can
you
raise
my
comfort
level
to
agree
to
do
this
transfer
at
this
point
in
time
by
offering
and
I'm
not
trying
to
put
your
spot
by
any
means,
but
by
offering
a
a
a
path
by
which
we
can
replenish
these
funds
in
next
year's
budget.
O
The
path
would
be
to
include
them
in
the
capital
budget
proposal,
so
the
the
capital
budget
process
has
recently
started.
In
fact,
I'll
take
this
opportunity
to
plug
that.
We
have
a
public
meeting
this
evening
on
the
capital
budget
for
feedback.
O
I'm
the
the
agenda
of
this
evening's
meeting
is
escaping
me,
so
I
can't
remember
if
this
is
the
one
where
these
types
of
facilities
would
be
discussed,
but
in
any
event
the
public
is
invited
to
weigh
in,
as
are
all
of
you,
of
course,
and
stakeholders
on
their
priorities,
and
you
know
I.
I
fully
expect
the
public
safety
department
to
submit
a
budget
request
for
re-allocating
funds
to
this
facility.
Of
course,
council
could
could
do
any
member
of
council
or
council
collectively
could
do
the
same.
O
You
know
we
will
we
anticipate
going
to
the
markets
for
bond
issuance
next
year
to
support
a
robust
capital
budget
in
which
this
could
absolutely
be
included
and
again
it
is.
It
is
my
every
intention
to
put
that
forward
to
council
for
consideration
when
we
deliver
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
later
in
the
year.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answers
your
question
directly,
but
my
my.
D
Yes,
yeah,
okay,
yeah,
no,
it
does
director.
I
appreciate
your
as
I
said,
we
are
never
given
the
luxury
of.
Maybe
it's
just
enough
and
we
just
we
have
to
make
difficult
decisions
here.
I
I
you
know
and
we
as
electors,
electorates
electeds
in
the
city,
it's
very
common
for
us
to
get
concerns
from
constituency
around
public
safety,
whether
it
be
police
fire,
ems,
animal
control.
D
But
I
have
never
seen
such
a
heightened
desire
for
for
calm
and
for
to
to
for
the
electorate
to
truly
believe
in
their
heart
of
hearts
that
that,
even
though
these
are
terribly
difficult
times
across
the
nation
that
we
are
fully
and
I'm
not
suggesting
we're
not,
but
that
we're
fully
committed
to
to
the
health
and
safety
and
welfare
and
well-being
of
our
constituencies.
D
O
Our
training
facility-
I
don't
have
that-
answer
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
that
yeah,
obviously
just
to
just
to
make
clear
for
the
purposes
of
the
public,
the
the
city-owned
training
facilities
of
in
washington
boulevard
are.
We
are
not
paying
rent
on
those
we
we
own
those.
I
will
have
to
double
check
on
the
other
component
of
our
training
work,
that
is
in
partnership
with
ccac
right.
D
No,
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
director,
it's
it's
a
difficult
decision
to
make
and
clearly
one
we're
not
taking
lightly
for
the
fact
that
we
brought
it
back
for
rediscussion
at
the
table.
I
will
be
a
very
very
oh
one.
Last
thing
exploration
of
the
of
the
bond
funds
that
are
committed
to
the
project.
There
is
a
timeline
correct.
Do
we
are
we
like,
within
a
year
of
those
expiring.
O
It
it's
it's
not
a
it's.
O
It's
it's
a
it's,
not
a
definitive
timeline,
because
we
we
can
and
often
do
make
a
rationale.
O
We
provide
a
rationale
for
why
project
has
not
fully
expended
its
funds
when
we
are
questioned
about
this
by
regulators,
it
just
the
the
the
as
the
number
of
past
year
and
and
often
often
cases
multi-year
past
do
bond
funds
remain
in
our
accounts.
We
get
questions
about
that,
particularly
when
we
pursue
new
bond
funding
from
the
private
market.
So
this
is
a
question
that
comes
up
from
state
and
federal
regulators
when
we
go
through
the
normal
compliance
process
to
issue
new
bonds
that
they
ask.
O
Essentially,
why
do
you
need
to
issue
new
debt
if
you
have
debt
funds
available
that
have
not
been
expended,
and
I
will
say
that
that
was
a
question
that
was
raised
to
us
this
year.
As
we
prepared
to
issue
the
2022
series,
we
were
able
to
answer
it
successfully,
but
from
a
debt
management
point
of
view,
it
is
a
priority
of
mine
to
make
sure
that
we
are
more
timely
in
our
expenditure
of
funds,
including
in
instances
like
this.
O
D
We,
as
elected,
are,
are
constantly
requested
from
constituency
to
ad
place.
You
know
at
least
let
me
back
up
on
that
report.
We
we
were
anyway
for
the
first
13
years
that
I
was
on
council.
D
It
was
almost
a
charge
of
this
council
and
previous
councils
that
that
we
always
founded
to
populate
and
maintain
a
certain
number
of
police
officers
throughout
the
city,
and
then
I
don't
have
to
to
go
into
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
the
international
outrage
and
the
desire
for
the
world
globally
to
revisit
what
policing
is
and
we've
had
that
conversation
at
length,
and
many
of
us
have,
I
think,
come
to
realize
there
were
things
we
were
doing.
D
Okay,
there
were
things
we
were
doing
very
well
and
there
were
things
that
clear
clearly
needed
to
change,
but
you
know
having
come
out
of
that
and
to
to
follow
national
headlines
like
what's
happening
in
seattle
right
now,
and
what
many
of
the
of
the
citizenry
looks
like
look
at
like
a
almost
a
collapse
of
of
civility.
D
You
know
we're.
You
know
we.
We
had
a
great
meet
great
meeting
with
the
mayor
yesterday
morning
around
what's
happening
on
carson
street
and
the
you
know
the
the
the
it
looks
as
though
the
world
has
lost
its
mind.
You
know,
and
so
we
are
beginning
to
hear
again
the
desire
to
see
you
know
police
officers,
but
not
just
police
officers
for
the
sake
of
police
officers,
but
officers
that
are
trained
in
the
new
approach
to
protecting
and
serving
I'm
gonna.
D
I'm
gonna
stay
away
from
the
terminology
of
policing
and
use
the
terminology
of
protecting
and
serving,
and
so
it
just
even
further
emphasizes
the
the
need
for
training
and
not
not
just
for
the
state
of
constituency
but
for
the
officers
themselves.
D
You
know,
I
see
the
faces
of
officers
sometime
on
east
carson
street
quarter
and
they
just
look
like.
Oh
my
god.
What
what
am
I
supposed
to
do
here?
You
know,
and
I
feel
for
them
that
without
you
know,
new
age
for
a
lack
of
a
better
way
to
say
training
of
what
a
a
new
police
force
really
looks
like
and
and
to
to
separate
away
from
the
idea
of
policing
people
and
and
and
advocating
solely
for
protecting
and
serving.
D
I
just
I've,
never
seen
that
kind
of
desire
in
electorate,
and
so
you
know
that
plays
into
the
whole
conversation
of
we
know
we
need
to
put
a
class
on
we.
We
know
we
we
need
to
as
additional
officers
for
a
number
of
reasons.
We
know
there's
retirements
and
we
know
there
are.
You
know,
people
that
will
leave
the
force
and
I
know
the
conversation
of
how
we
train
people
and
then
they
leave
and
all
those
kinds
of
things.
It's
a
very,
very
complex,
too
complicated
argument.
I
do.
D
I
don't
want
to
minimize
it
at
all,
but
you
know
it
just
to
me
the
time
calls
for
you
know,
level-headedness
and
for
for
our
commitment
to
to
public
safety
and
to
having
officers
that
understand
this
new
way
of
policing
it
and
what
it
means
to
go
out
and
actually
protect
and
serve
a
population
and
not
police
a
population.
So
it
gives
me
great
pause
to
to
vote
a
bill
that
says
we're
not
committed
to
that.
But
the
bill
doesn't
say
that
I
I
get
that
it
doesn't
say
that
yeah.
D
But
having
had
this
conversation
with
you-
and
I
honestly
do
not
know
the
temperature
of
my
colleagues
I
have
not.
I
have
not
told
my
colleagues,
although
clearly
they
they
were
comfortable
enough
to
vote
in
preliminary
vote.
The
first
time,
but
you
know,
having
had
this
conversation
with
you
and
understanding
the
difficult
position
that
we
we
are
in
all
the
way
around.
D
M
O
Just
just
to
respond
in
part
to
to
what
you
said,
I
want
to
clarify
for
everyone's
comfort
level
that
this
change
in
no
way
affects
the
operational
readiness
of
the
bureau
of
police
or
any
of
our
public
safety
bureaus,
nor
our
ability
to
train
because
we
have
existing
facilities
for
those
purposes.
So
I
I
understand
and
take
to
heart
your
points
about
the
desire
for
long-term
new
facilities,
which
again
I
and
the
administration
share,
but
I,
the
the
a
new
facility
is
not
going
to
be
completed
for
some
time
regardless.
O
That
would
be
a
multi-year
process,
and
in
that
interim
we
we
are
not
in
a
deficit
in
our
ability,
from
an
operational
point
of
view,
to
train
officers
or
or
conduct
a
normal
public
safety
business
to
protect
and
serve
as
as
you
so
you
put
it
so
yeah.
This
is.
This
is
fundamentally
a
financial
and
debt
management
question,
not
one
that
has
operational
consequences
for
the
bureau,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
of
that.
But
yeah.
D
Out
so
it
is
worth
rounding
out,
it
is
worth
reiterating.
You
know
it's,
it's
almost
like
technology,
you
know
the
the
second
we
we
we
buy
something
it's
already
obsolete,
we're
off
to
the
next
new
thing.
If,
if
ever
there
was
a
time
to
to
really
really
and
not
as
catch
phrase
but
to
really
reimagine
what
it
means
to
deploy
a
a
police
force
and
what
what
does
that
look
like
in
this?
D
In
you
know
in
2020
to
and
beyond
and
and
it's
you
know-
to
go
back
to
the
sort
of
idea
of
outdated
technologies?
It's
you
know,
training
facilities
are,
are
our
tools
right
and
if,
if
we're
not
providing
our
public
safety
officials
with
the
right
tools
needed
to
you
know
to
enter
this
new
arena
that
we
all
agree,
we
need
to
enter
then,
but
then
we're
doing
them
a
great
disservice,
and
I
you
know,
I
don't
want
it
to
to
go
out
there.
D
So
we
just
want
to
create
a
training
facility
because
we
want
to
create
a
training
facility,
it's
imperative
to
have
the
proper
tools
to
train
a
public
safety
force
adequately
and
properly,
and
I
just
you
know,
I'm
I'm
just
we
all
are
very
dedicated
to
that
and
again
I'll
hearken
back
to
the
difficult
decisions
we
need
to
make.
I
really
really
appreciate
your
time
director.
D
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
engage
with
you
and
again
I
don't
know
the
temperature
of
my
colleagues,
but
you
will
have
my
support
on
the
bill
today
and
I
will
be
a
very
strong
advocate
to
replenish
the
funds
in
that
capital
in
the
capital
budget
that
is
coming
before
us
rather
soon.
So,
thank
you
director
very
much
and
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
personally
have
no
problem
recommitting
these
funds,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
have
the
misgivings
that
mr
krause
has
and
we
did
talk
about
it
over
the
weekend.
I
do
appreciate
him
giving
me
a
call.
I
think
director
has
iterated
that
these
are
bond
funds
that
need
to
move
quickly
and
so
they're
appropriate
use
for
these
funds.
I
support
the
pen
circle
conversion.
It
has
already
supported
a
few
hundred
units
of
affordable
housing.
N
I
think,
as
part
of
the
kind
of
long-term
redevelopment
in
east
liberty-
and
I
want
to
note
for
the
record
what
I
think
mr
krause
and
mr
pollock
just
wrapped
up
on,
which
is
that
there's
no
immediate
operational
impact
to
moving
these
funds
right.
It's
not
going
to
make
policing
better.
It's
not
going
to
make
policing
worse.
It's
there's
nothing
immediate!
That
is
going
to
be
happening
with
the
public
training
safety
facility.
N
We
do
lease
not
only
at
ccac,
but
we
also
just
leased
on
summer
one
boulevard
an
additional
facility.
I
kind
of
can't
keep
current
in
my
mind,
which
functions
are
happening
in
which
places
I
absolutely
do
support
for
the
record.
Moving
the
firing
range
to
an
indoor
facility
and
at
this
table
fairly
recently,
because
I
was
still
in
this
assigned
seat,
I
asked
if
it
could
be
moved
to
the
new
facility
on
summer
run
boulevard
and
was
told
no.
N
But
I
will
continue
to
ask
because
it
seems
like
that
is
a
large
facility
that
maybe
perhaps
could
accommodate
some
indoor
firing
range
and
also
there
is
a
site
plan
and
some
engineering
to
just
reconfigure
the
current
site,
which
is
not
a
good
site
being
in
a
valley
that
amplifies
the
noise
of
of
the
gunfire,
but
to
reconfigure
it
to
to
decrease
it
somewhat,
and
that
also
again
just
to
acknowledge
what
the
the
neighborhoods
have
had
to
go
through.
N
N
So
again,
I'm
happy
to
support
today
I
think
councilman
krause
and
I
also
had
a
productive
but
exchange
over
the
weekend
about
you
know
what
is
happening
with
this
kind
of
trend
in
cities
to
create
these
large
compound
facilities
as
it
were,
and
since
there
are
other
cities,
some
that
are
having
a
lot
of
public
discussion
about
building
them.
Atlanta,
especially
has
a
highly
contentious
proposal.
N
Has
it
been
positive
results
on?
You
know
those
that
city's
public
safety
and
the
results
that
they're
getting
or
not,
and
so
that's
one
advantage
of
of
other
cities
having
moved
forward
with
these
and
completed
them,
but
anyway,
I'm
happy
to
support
today,
and
I
do
think
that
I'm
I
I
you
know,
I'm
happy
to
continue
the
conversation
with
other
members
about
the
the
project
at
large.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
councilman
krauss
for
doing
his
due
diligence
and
recommending
this,
so
we
can
actually
have
a
conversation,
more
in-depth
conversation
and
I'm
glad
that
the
director
is
here-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
conversation
last
night,
I
think
we've
been
discussing
the
safety
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
as
a
whole
and
what
needs
to
happen,
what
needs
to
what
we
need
to
do
and
while
I
understand
moving
these
dollars
now-
and
I
don't
want
to
lose
these
dollars,
so
I
think
if
you
really
are
committed
to
the
safety
facility,
it's
important
to
move
the
dollars
now,
so
that
we
can
do
this
in
the
future
with
with
additional
funds.
P
P
You
know
is
pulling
officers
you-
and
I
had
this
discussion
yesterday
from
all
over
the
city-
we're
not
able
to
open
certain
pools
because
of
the
the
violence
in
some
of
the
some
of
the
areas,
and
I
mean
it
is
to
the
point
where
we
are
making
very
difficult
decisions,
and
this
is
is
not
even
a
difficult
one.
This
is,
if
you
want
to
do
in
the
future.
Let's
put
the
funding
where
we
need
to
put
it
now
and
in
the
future
we
can
revisit
this.
P
So
this
is
a
longer
conversation,
but
in
terms
of
this,
I
think
that
it's
important
to
say
everything
we
do
going
forward
has
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
safety
of
the
public
in
general,
but
we
definitely
see
the
violence
occurring
in
the
city
and
we
want
to
do
something
to
stop
it,
and
I
was
happy
that
the
mayor's
office
understands
or
is
also
committed
to
the
safety
of
the
public.
P
I
mean
tremendously,
so
I
was
happy
to
hear
that
he's
at
least
willing
to
have
some
conversations
about
what
needs
to
happen,
because
everybody
right
now
is
all
hands
on
deck.
What
can
we
do
ourselves,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
that
conversation
yesterday.
Q
A
Say
that
I
will
be
willing
to
support
councilman
krauss
this
coming
budget
cycle
when
he
looks
to
reallocate
funding,
but
I
also
understand
the
importance
of
moving
these
dollars
now,
especially
for
pedestrian
and
traffic
improvements
directly
to
where
we've
invested
millions
into
affordable
housing.
So
so
I
understand
both
issues
and
I'm
supportive
with
that.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye.
D
Thank
you.
I
promise
very
briefly.
You
know.
The
south
side
was
mentioned
a
couple
times
here
and
I
just
want
to
say
that,
at
the
invitation
of
mayor
gainey
myself
and
bob
sharland
and
public
safety,
director,
schmidt
and
chief
of
staff,
wheatley
met
yesterday
for
the
first
of
what
is
what
are
going
to
be
ongoing
meetings.
Tuesday
mornings
at
8,
30.
D
to
to
speak
specifically
to
the
progress
that
we're
making
the
plan
and
the
progress
that
we're
making
in
the
south
side-
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
add
here-
that
I
was
in
all
sincerity-
very
pleasantly
surprised-
might
be
the
right
word
at
the
grasp
of
the
problem
of
the
problem
that
the
mayor
gainey
already
had
and
that
he
came
in
he
came
in
prepared.
D
He
had
clearly
done
his
homework,
as
did
chief
of
steph
wheatley,
and
we
had
a
very,
very
productive
problem
of
the
urgency
and
the
immediacy
of
the
problem
and
how
to
address
that
first
and
foremost,
and
then
to
ultimately
peel
that
layer,
one
or
that
onion
one
layer
at
a
time.
But
I
just
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there,
for
the
comfort
of
for
my
colleagues
and
for
constituency
and
people
at
large
that
that
meetings
have
been
very,
very
productive.
D
D
Neighborhood-
and
I
wasn't
gonna
put
that
out-
but
I
understand
media
already
has
that
and
they've
already
are
talking
about
it,
so
he
will
be
present
in
south
side
six
o'clock,
tuesday,
the
forgive
me
tuesday,
the
14th
at
the
market
house,
but
but
just
as
it
relates
to
the
conversation
that
we've
had
today.
I
just
wanted
to
to
assure
and
to
calm
constituency
that
very,
very
active
conversation
and
action
is,
is
happening
and
I'm
very,
very,
very
excited
by
it.
M
A
Any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation,
mr
pollock,
if
you
would
stay
with
us,
I'm
gonna
continue
to
go
out
of
order
to
page
five
and
we're
going
to
take
bill
431,
which
is
under
the
public
safety
services
committee.
L
Discussion,
I
know
that
council
member
krauss
has
some
questions
about
the
budget
process
here,
so
I
will
pass
it
off
to
council
member
krauss.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
councilman
director.
I
I
believe
there
there
may
very
well
be
desire
to
recommit
by
conversations
that
our
public
safety
chair
cory
o'connor
had
this
morning,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
questions
and
perhaps
have
you
or
whoever
comes
to
council
to
be
a
little
more
prepared
to
to
to
respond
the
the.
If
I
understand
correctly,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
the
180
000
for
this
contract
is
not
in
the
in
the
2022
budget.
L
O
So
these
are,
this
is
a
was
a
planned
and
budgeted
exercise,
and-
and
I
just
on
that
note-
the
purpose
of
this
study
is
to
provide
information
that
will
be
material
in
bargaining,
so
we
are
seeking
to
move
the
advance
this
process.
O
Now,
as
we
head
into
collective
bargaining,
this
is
actually,
it
is
supported
by
the
union
that
we
conduct
to
study
as
well
to
play
a
role
in
that
process,
and
but
but
this
was
a-
this
was
an
anticipated
and
budgeted
expense,
because
it
is
because
it
is
relevant
to
and
intimately
related
to,
the
bargaining
process,
which
is
a
legal
negotiation.
O
It
is
eligible
for
a
waiver
of
competitive
process,
which
is,
which
is
what
was
done
in
this
case,
and
the
firm
matrix
is
a
you
know
nationally
recognized
leader
in
conducting
these
kinds
of
studies,
they
do
them
in
cities
across
the
the
united
states.
So
that's
the.
I
believe
that
that
addresses
the
overall
scope
of
some
of
the
questioning.
However,
we're
certainly
happy
for
the
the
resolution
to
be
held
for
a
week
if,
if
that's
what
council
desires,
as
which
is
my
understanding
from
conversation
with
the
chair.
D
D
That
thanks
director,
so
you,
you
kind
of,
took
the
conversation
where
I
wanted
to
take
it.
Your
primary
role
of
counsel
is
fiduciary
and
you
know
in
managing
the
and
the
budget.
I
I
just
had
concern
and
forgive
me
for
being
misinformed-
that
many
of
us
here
on
the
on
the
council
lived
through
the
the
bad
days
of
act
47,
when
the
only
the
only
response
we
had
for
constituency
was
no.
D
We
can't
do
that
and
through
the
years
of
really
very
diligent
and
a
concerted
effort
to
get
our
financial
house
in
order
over
about
a
17-year
period
and
raise
our
bond
rating
and
to
make
certain
that
our
you
know
our
capital
budgets
were
pay,
go
and,
and
to
you
know,
just
keep
our
our
financial
house
in
order.
I
just
wanted
to
make
certain
that
we
remain,
I
know,
and
we
all
of
us.
D
I
should
speak
with
my
colleagues
as
well
want
to
make
certain
that
we
remain
on
that
pell
on
that
pathway,
to
financial,
health
and
and
safety.
Nothing,
nothing
good
happens
if
our
financial
house
is
not
in
order.
So
I
appreciate
you
for
correcting
that,
and
I
did
want
to
ask
a
question
around
whether
or
not
this
did
go
out
for
competitive
because
it
came
to
council
so
quick.
D
This
is
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
if
it
did
go
out
for
a
competitive
bid,
but
you
explained
how
and
why
that
would
have
been
waived
under
this.
We
do
have
an
established
contract
with.
Forgive
me
matrix
consulting
what
about
wnbe.
That
was
waived
as
well.
Is
that
not
a
requirement
in
this
contract,
since
we
are
already
contracted
with
matrix.
O
I'll
double
check,
but
I
believe
that,
to
the
extent
that
would
be
required
here,
which
I
believe
it
would,
it
would
have
also
been
waived
again
to
access
their
national
expertise
in
conducting
these
types
of
studies.
Okay,.
O
No,
the
two
are
completely
unrelated.
This
is
a
long-term
study
that
will
the
results
of
which
will
play
a
role
in
in
the
bargaining
process,
as
well
as
guide
decisions
in
future
budget
years
about
you
know
whether
certain
positions
are
best
filled
by
administrative
positions
to
be
clear
or
best
filled
by
a
sworn
officer
versus
civilian
things
of
that
nature.
So
this
is
this
in
no
way
has
bearing
on
a
much
more.
O
O
I'll,
just
note
to
a
point
you
made
earlier
that
there's
a
in
the
discussion,
the
previous
bills,
there's
a
key
linkage
between
training
curriculum,
as
you
yourself
rightly
pointed
out,
and
a
police
class,
and
we're
very
close
to
having
the
sort
of
a
pin
down
plan
for
that
to
share
with
council
on
the
public,
but
but
because
of
those
two
items
are
so
intimately
related.
That's
that's
the
internal
work,
that's
happening
now
in
the
department,
but
but
this
study
has
nothing
to
do
with
with
that
question.
D
I
appreciate
that
that's
why
we
we
like
to
have
open
conversation
like
this
to
to
get
at
the
meat
of
the
matter
and
not
speculation,
but
you
know
rather
exactly
what
is
what
is
to
take
place,
because
my
first,
my
first
reaction
when
I
read
the
bill
would
have
been
well.
I
don't
think
we
need
a
study
to
tell
us.
D
We
need
to
put
a
class
on
and
I
I
would
again
not
to
speak
for
my
colleagues,
but
I
would
think
that
would
probably
be
you
know
the
majority
of
colleagues
thinking
along
those
lines
as
well
too,
but
I
I
do
appreciate
a
deeper,
a
deeper
dive
into
staffing
of
of
the
bureau
and
how
to
best,
deploy
the
bureau
so
has
matrix
done
that
for
us
in
the
past
and
if
so,
if
not
that's
fine,
and
if,
if
you
could
maybe
expand
a
little
bit
on
what
that
might
look
like
under
contract.
O
Actually,
director
schmidt
has
joined
us
and
if,
with
your
permission
actually
to
to
throw
that
question
to
him,
he
probably
has
directions
yeah
good
morning.
R
Director
strike
welcome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
yeah.
So
matrix
is
a
national
company,
as
the
director
mentioned.
They
have
done
major
cities,
new
york,
los
angeles,
kansas
city,
multitude
of
other
large
cities,
cities
our
size,
much
smaller
than
us,
even.
R
Firm
to
utilize
this
study
and
they
actually
provide
services
for
all
of
public
safety,
so
they
took
take
a
look
at
it
from
more
than
just
the
police
lessons,
but
also
as
we
look
into
how
things
interact
and
engage
and
interface
with
police.
What
that
looks
like
as
well
as
you
know,
one
thing
we
did
ask
them
to
take
into
account
is
all
the
special
events
that
we
have.
R
You
know
heinz
field
events
I
wasn't
bringing
that
up
yeah,
so
all
the
events
we
have
to
take
that
into
consideration,
because
that
is
a
impact
on
our
bureau.
So
when
we
look
at
staff-
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
looking
at
the
true
needs
of
the
bureau
as
well
as
what
we
can
do,
I
know
we've
had
this
discussion
in
the
past
that
currently
compared
to
other
departments
across
the
country.
The
number
of
civilian
positions
we
have
within
the
bureau
is
much
lower
ratio
than
most
large
major
major
city
departments.
R
D
We've
had
that
conversation,
since
the
day
I
got
here,
we've
been
talking
about
some
form
of
again
to
use
a
overused
word
reimagining
how
we
police,
how
we
protect
and
serve.
I
do
not
want
to
use
the
term
police
so
how
we
protect
and
serve
so
what
what
makes
this
a
little
bit
different?
What
what?
What's
your
hope
for
the
outcome
of
of
this?
What
do
you
think
the
focus
might
be.
R
It
was
actually
done
by
the
national
association
chief
of
police,
so
it
was
a
very
much
firm
that
was
very
police,
focused
versus
kind
of
overall
public
safety
focused
and
also,
obviously,
we
all
all
know
the
idea
and
staffing
and
recruitment
for
policing
has
changed
significantly
since
2005..
R
So
we
want
to
use
this
as
an
updated
study
so
that
we
can
start
to
budget
and
because
I
know
we
always
talk
about
civilianization,
but
what's
happened
in
previous
years
has
been.
We
request
civilian
positions,
those
get
declined,
but
somehow
we
still
added
police
positions
without
a
study
to
really
justify
the
number.
So,
at
least
from
my
standpoint,
I
would
like
to
have
the
study
to
show
whatever
that
number
might
be.
It
might
be
more
officers.
R
It
might
be
more
good
where
we
are
whatever
that
looks
like
so
then,
when
I
come
to
council
to
ask
for
money,
whether
it's
for
civilians
or
whether
it's
for
officers
or
for
both.
I
have
some
justification
in
support
of
that.
It's
not
just
a
thought
process
got
instinct
or
whatever
that
somebody
might
have.
We
actually
have
some
that's
a
true
documentation
or
true
study
to
perform
or
to
show
that.
D
So
I'm
sorry
director,
I
would
just
add
to
your
comment
there
not
limited
to
how
many
officers,
but
what
type
of
officer
what
is
the
matrix,
I
guess
to
use
their
word
of
the
kind
and
type
of
officer
we're
looking
for
today
in
2022
and
beyond.
R
Yeah,
so
what
part
of
the
scope
is
to
look?
How
officers
would
interface
with
like
ochs,
where
we
need
to
have
officers
in
the
right
space?
And
you
know,
do
we
need
more
officers
in
community
engagement
and
move
more
officers
into
investigations
or
where
it's
not
just
gives
us
a
one
number?
This
is
how
many
officers
need.
D
So
director
will
officer
wellness,
be
a
part
of
the
scope.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
part
of
this
that
talks
about
the
health
safety
welfare
of
the
officer,
which
I
I
believe
is
just
such
an
integral
component
to
their
ability
to
to
function
and
do
their
jobs
appropriately,
but
will
that
be?
If
not
that's?
Okay,
I
just
I'm
curious.
R
Yeah,
I
absolutely
I
do
hope.
That's
part
of
it
because
one
thing
we
want
to
do
is
try
to
reduce
the
amount
of
officer
the
amount
of
hours
that
officers
are
forced
reversal
as
far
as
overtime
goes,
when
we
have
officers
force
over
and
over
again
working
so
many
hours,
especially
that
that's
why
I
said
we
need
to
take
special
events
and
no
accounts.
When
we
have
you
know,
parades
and
festivals
and
events.
R
We
want
those
obviously
they're
great
for
our
city
and
they
highlight
our
city,
but
a
lot
of
those
are
are
on
the
backs
of
offices
working
overtime,
yeah,
not
necessarily
wanting
to
or
volunteering
to
work
the
overtime,
even
but
just
working
the
overtime
and
being
forced
to
do
so.
We
want
to
make
sure
they
have
a
good
work-life
balance
for
their
wellness.
For
this
you
know
for
the
safety
of
the
officers
as
well
as
how
they
feel
when
they
are
interacting
with
them.
You
don't
want
somebody.
That's
been
working
20
hours.
D
Officers
yeah
just
a
little
side
note.
I
I
appreciate
the
flexibility
of
the
bureau
and
of
public
works
around
our
newly
reorganized
pride.
I
know
it
was
sort
of
the
first
year.
We
really
pulled
this
off
and
there
there
was
a
little
bit
of
confusion
around
some
of
the
the
the
deployment
of
it,
but
all
departments
were
incredibly
flexible,
including
the
bureau
and
public
works.
They
just
want
to
publicly
recognize.
D
We
appreciate
their
flexibility
and
in
helping
us
to
get
our
legs
in
this
new
reorganized
pride
that
that
we're
celebrating,
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
is
my
my
questions.
I'm
happy
to
listen
to
other
members
and-
and
I'm
also
happy
to
follow
the
lead
of
what
other
members
wish
to
see
with
the
bill,
whether
to
pass
today
or
to
to
hold
a
wait
for
further
discussion
and
I'll
I'll
leave
the
floor
thanks.
Mr
chair.
A
Thank
you.
I
have
president
smith
followed
by
councilman
burgess.
I
think
you're
good,
so
councilman,
burgess
and
councilwoman
gross.
S
S
S
S
J
S
Yet
if
I
spend
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
prevention
programs,
there
is
three
hours
of
conversation
of
how
that
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
spent
on
crime
production
and
not
one
single
conversation,
so
in
any
other
world.
Although
I
don't
think
this
is
true,
if
the
police
are
responsible
for
crime
and
crime
goes
up,
you
would
say
the
police
were
at
fault,
but
what
we
say
is
crime
goes
up,
let's
fund
the
police,
more
I'm
not
suggesting
in
any
way.
S
This
is
not
a
negative
to
the
police.
What
I
am
saying
is
we
cannot
do
this
business
as
usual,
we
can't
just
hire
more
police,
throw
them
into
the
black
community
raid
black
people,
throw
them
in
jail
because
it
makes
other
people
who
don't
live
in
my
community
feel
better
about
themselves
and
feel
that
they're
doing
something.
I
want
to
be
very
clear
to
you
about
this.
I'm
I'm,
I
don't
know
the
right
number
of
police,
but
I
am
going
to
tell
you
if
their
tactics
aren't
right.
S
S
So
as
we
go
forward
in
this
conversation,
we
need
to
have
the
smart
conversation
about
policing
and
staffing,
because
in
many
ways
it's
not
their
fault.
We're
asked
to
do
a
job.
We
we
declared
war
on
drugs
and
then
we
gave
them
assault,
rifles
and
tanks,
and
they
did-
and
it
was
really
the
war
in
the
black
community-
is
what
we
had
for
many
years.
We
had
the
war
of
the
black
community
now
today,
violence
is
increasing
because
of
three
reasons.
S
Well,
three
reasons:
violence
occurs
for
three
reasons:
poverty,
institutional,
racism,
hopelessness,
poverty,
institutional
racism,
hopelessness
all
three
of
them,
none
of
them
the
police
can
do.
They
cannot
solve
the
root
causes
of
violence.
They
simply
deal
with
the
symptoms
of
violence
or
the.
After
effect,
they
do
not
deal
with
the
root
causes,
and,
and
so
we
need-
which
is
why
I
I
am
very
I
am.
S
I
was
grateful
to
be
part
of
the
drafting
and
I
have
the
full
my
full
support
for
the
mayor
gainey's
plan
for
peace,
which
is
a
comprehensive
and
coordinated
approach
to
vote,
and
I
know
I
understand,
I
understand
the
reflex
to
think
that
more
police
will
make
us
safer.
I
get
it
it's
just
not
true.
It's
not
true
by
data.
S
There
is
no
data
that
says
it
nowhere.
I
spend
my
life
trying
to
think
about
this.
More
police
by
itself
will
not
make
us
safer.
There's
only
one
way
we're
going
to
get
safer,
and
that
is
when
the
community
has
confidence
in
the
police
and
works
with
them
as
partners,
the
more
that
occurs,
the
safer
we
will
become,
and
so
and
so,
and
so
we
have
to
spend
our
time
our
we
have
to
so
we
need.
We
need
police
right
if
you
take
police
out
of
a
community,
I'm
leaving
too
right.
S
When
I
first
when
I
first
had
my
first
debate
in
council,
I
had
a
component.
I
had
an
opponent
tell
me,
you
know
telling
me
you
know,
I
don't
want
any
police,
I'm
like
okay.
Let
me
know
when
that
happens
right.
You
know
if
there's
no
police,
I'm
not
staying
there,
and
so
I
want
police.
I
support
police,
but
I
I
also
think-
and
it's
I
know
this
is
hard.
It's
it's
hard
to
have
these
conversations
right.
We
have.
We
have
decades
of
of
racist
policies
that
have
impacted
the
black
community
and
so
oftentimes.
S
We
we
operate
on
on
reflex
right,
it's
reflex,
but
but
but
but
but
to
really
do
this.
And
lastly,
the
uptake
and
violence
is
directly
clovik-related,
because
if
it
was
a
pittsburgh
problem,
it
wouldn't
be
occurring
in
philadelphia.
If
it
was
a
pittsburgh
problem,
it
wouldn't
be
happening
in
chicago.
If
it
was
a
pittsburgh
problem,
it
wouldn't
be
happening
in
new
york.
It
was
a
pittsburgh
problem,
it
wouldn't
happen
in
l.a.
It
was
a
pittsburgh
problem.
S
S
S
Do
the
klovic
in
addition
to
that,
they
have
now
come
back
on
the
streets
and
we
have
to
now
retool
those
weeks,
those
years
of
loss
of
education,
loss
of
of
of
alternatives,
loss
of
of
job
training,
all
that
years
was
lost,
and
now
we
have
to
restart
that
intervention
on
these
at-risk
populations.
S
So
this
is,
I
I
know
it's
hard
and
I
try
not
to
sound
fussy.
I
I,
although
I
know
I
do
it's
just
we
spin.
I've
listened,
you
know.
If
there
I
have.
I
have
never
seen
the
police
ask
for
anything
at
this
table
that
we've
said
no
to,
and
I've
never
seen
it
debated
ever.
Everyone
asks
for
guns,
we
say
yes,
if
they
ask
for
things,
we
say:
yes,
whatever
it
is,
and
we
spend
a
lot
of
our
money
on
it.
S
But
we
don't
we.
When
we
spend
prevention
programs,
then
we
don't
ask
the
police,
for
I
didn't
say
we,
you
know
other
than
the
legislation
that
I
helped
to
to
the
forum.
We
don't
ask
the
police
for
receipts
or
what
did
they
do
or
how
do
they
do
it
or
or
show
us
exactly
how
you
spent
the
money?
In
fact,
the
police
has
monies
and
funds
that
we
don't
control
that
they
can
spend
without
our
approval
absolutely
do
right.
We
know
that
they
have
money
outside
of
this
council.
S
I'm
simply
saying
we
need
to
have
a
different
thinking.
We
have
to
be
consistent
that
we
treat
all
of
our
safety
efforts
in
the
same
way
asking
for
the
same
level
of
accountability,
the
same
level
of
investment
right.
We
want
to
invest
in
the
police.
We
want
to
invest
in
the
community,
we're
investing
at
risk
at
risk
use.
We
would
invest
in
those
communities
where
the
crime
is
occurring.
We
want
all
communities
safe.
S
We
want
every
community
safe,
all
of
us
every
we
want
every
community
safe,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
and
you
know
I
have
so
many
shootings
in
my
district.
Now
it's
not
on
the
news,
you
don't
you
don't
hear
it
right,
you
don't
see
it
it's
still
there.
I
still
have
more
shootings
than
anybody
else.
No
matter
what
you
see
in
the
paper,
my
district
still
has
more
shootings
than
everybody
else.
It's
just
now.
It's
so
you
you're
so
used
to
hearing.
They
were
shooting
in
front
of
my
church.
S
S
I
will
continue
to
be
hyperactive
on
this
issue
and
I
won't
have
this,
but
now
I
think
it's
time
for
me
to
be
a
little
clearer
as
we
move
forward.
As
I'm
proud.
We
have
an
african-american
mayor,
and
so
it
is
now
time
to
have
this
very
frank
conversation
about
how
the
place
engages
african-american
communities
and
what
level
of
police
we
actually
need
to
be
safe
and
whether
the
money
and
it
may
be,
we
need
to
spend
120
million
dollars.
Maybe
it
may
be.
S
We
spend
180
million
dollars,
maybe
we
need
to
spend
100
million
dollars
and
the
20
million
dollars
needs
to
go
to
different
programming
right.
I
don't
know,
but
that's
the
conversation
we
have
to
have
in
a
very
thoughtful
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
painful.
It's
a
painful
conversation
right
because
we
spent
the
last
100
years
of
government
saying
the
police
are
great.
They
make
it
safe,
but
that's
not
true
for
black
people.
The
police
by
themselves
do
not
make
us
safe
right.
They
don't
make
us
safe.
S
They
in
fact
have
been
the
agents
of
destruction
in
our
community.
We
need
to
be
honest
about
that,
because
we
don't
you
can't
go
forward
unless
you
acknowledge
the
past
repair
the
trauma
and
then
move
forward
together
to
a
shared
vision,
and
so
that's
my
that
that's
a
long
conversation
I
didn't
mean
to
have
now,
but
I've
I
for
last.
I
hear
these
these
comments
all
the
time
that
I
don't
usually
react
to
it,
but
I
guess
I'm
I'm
feeling
something
today.
I
I'm
tired.
S
It
saddens
me
and
I
pray
for
all
those
families
right,
but
at
the
same
time,
for
me
this
is
my
problem.
Every
day,
from
the
day
I
took
office
to
this
day,
this
is
the
second
thing
in
my
district,
I'm
concerned
with
my
first.
Certainly
the
first
thing
I
get
is
believe
it
or
not.
Is
vacant
lots
of
abandoned
buildings?
S
Am
I
not
right
a
director?
This
is
a
part
of
having
that
thoughtful
conversation
of
how
many
police
we
need
where
they
should
be,
what
they
should
be
doing
with
the
civilian
does,
but
the
police
do
what
the
programming
dude
does.
How
do
we
fit
all
this
together?
This
is
a
part
of
having
that
puzzle
conversation
and
it's
it's
going.
It's
a
different
conversation
than
we've
ever
had
before,
but
that's
the
conversation
and
so,
and
so
I
am
not
so
sure
to
say.
Yes,
we
need
a
new
class,
I
don't
know.
S
O
That's
correct,
I
just
the
only
only
difference
I
would
note
is
the
question
of
a
class
this
year
turns
more
on
the
number
of
eligible
retirements
and
maintaining
consistent
level
of
deployment.
So
the
way
in
which
this
would
impact
those
decisions,
I
said,
would
be
in
a
future
conversation
about
future
budget
years,
but
but
I
just
went
with
with
that.
O
One
clarification
I
would
say,
you're
absolutely
correct,
reverend
that
the
the
purpose
of
this
study
is
to
guide
the
ideal
number
distribution
and
distribution
of
officers
and
the
distribution
between
sworn
officers
and
civilians
working
in
the
police
bureau
to
achieve
the
objectives
of
the
city
and
of
the
communities
that
we
serve.
So
it
is,
it
is
to
give
us
the
necessary
data
to
then
have
informed
dialogue
with
the
public
with
this
council
and
with
others
about
that
it
it's
a
it's
necessary
for
us
to
to.
O
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
director
schmidt,
I
believe
that
you
were
here
for
the
2022
budget.
Hearing
on
public
safety
right
just
in
december
and
saul
reminds
members
that
we
talked
quite
a
bit
that
day
about
the
organizational
chart
for
public
safety
and
especially
the
bureau
of
police.
N
In
fact,
everyone
knows
and
teases
me
about
how
much
paper
I
keep
in
my
office,
and
it
is
a
little
messy,
but
my
staff
was
able
to
actually
pull
up
my
notes
from
that
very
day
from
our
last
budget
hearing,
because
we
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
the
org
chart
which
I
have
here,
and
I
think
you
were
in
that
conversation.
Were
you
not
good?
Thank
you
right,
and
so
I
remember
asking
at
length
because
the
organizational
chart
again
is
kind
of
broken
down.
N
I
labeled
it
like
a
b
and
c,
and
I
was
asking
you
know
which
of
these
positions
are
about.
You
know
I
kept
looking
for
the
vocabulary,
like
members
have
been
saying
like
boots
on
the
ground
or
police
on
the
street.
During
that
conversation,
and
so
we
asked
specifically-
and
it's
basically
the
first
two
sections
of
the
organizational
chart
right-
the
the
investigations
which
I've
labeled
kind
of
a
for
my
own
reference
and
then
what
you
have
as
assistant
chief
of
operations,
which
is
really
like
command.
N
When
we
we
talk
about
our
commanders
and
our
our
divisions
right,
but
then
the
third
section
administration
has
quite
a
bit
of
boxes
which
really
aren't
boots
on
the
ground.
Am
I
recounting
this
accurately?
I
am
old
and
it
was
six
months
ago
no.
R
That
that
sounds
very
much
what
I
recall
as
well.
N
Thank
you,
and
so
we
talked
about
kind
of
the
proportion
in
pittsburgh
and
again
I'm
using
dated
data.
It's
back
from
2015
in
governing
magazine.
N
N
What
was
helpful
in
that
conversation
was
it
wasn't
just
total
employees.
There
was
another
column
for
officers,
and
so
what
we
generally
do
in
my
office
is
we
pull
out
the
14
benchmark
cities
or
so
that
we
are
typically
comparing
ourselves
to
in
the
post-gazette
or
pittsburgh
quarterly,
and
it's
curious
that
pittsburgh
is
actually
mid-range
in
the
size
of
its
police
department
in
comparison
to
like
austin
baltimore,
st
louis
detroit,
indianapolis,
st
louis
is
much
higher
per
capita
per
10
000
population
baltimore
and
st
louis
both
are
much
higher.
N
Milwaukee
is
much
higher.
So
again,
this
is
2015
data.
Our
force
was
smaller
per
capita
than
it
is
now
it's
slightly
higher.
Now
our
population
is
lower
and
our
police
population
is
higher,
and
so
this
one
says
we
had
about
30.9
employees
per
10,
000
people
and
28.4
for
10
000
are
officers
and
how
close
those
two
numbers
are
together.
N
28.4
to
30.9
is
what
is
different
here
than
in
the
other
cities
right,
so
you've
got
something
like
austin:
it's
24.4
employees
in
the
police
department
for
austin
per
10,
000
population,
right,
it's
a
much
bigger
city,
but
it's
24,
24.4
employees
in
the
police
department
per
capita,
but
only
18.6
officers,
so
a
much
higher
ratio
in
their
department
of
civilians
to
officers-
and
I
think
this
is.
Am
I
wrong
what
I
heard
you
saying
this
is
the
beginning,
research
towards
this
contract,
sir?
N
R
M
N
R
N
Right
right
and
it
again
just
as
a
reminder,
I
think
members
were
especially
mr
krause
was
pointing
out
yesterday.
It
takes
a
full
18
months
to
get
a
recruit
to
be
an
officer
right
and
we
spend
I've
forgotten.
Someone
has
told
us
before:
is
it
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
training
per
officer?
Is
it
more?
Has
anyone
added
it
up
before.
R
N
R
N
M
J
N
N
18
months
to
bring
them
on
board,
spend
an
extra
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
officer
training
right
in
order
to
fill
that
position
and
then,
if
we
did
fill
that
position
with
the
non-officer,
we
have
someone
that
we
did
spend
18
months
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
training
that
could
actually
be
in
command
or
in
investigations
instead
of
at
the
desk
right,
and
so
that
that
was
that's.
How
I'm
recalling
the
nature
of
our
our
conversation
back
in
december.
Do
you
remember
that
as
well?
Yes,
yeah
right?
Okay,
so
I
would.
M
N
Right
and
so
I
don't,
I
don't
need
to
believe
what
the
point
I
just
said:
we
we've
we've
had
this
conversation
a
bit
at
council.
I
think
we
started
to
kind
of
dig
into
this,
I'm
totally
supportive
of
this
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollar
allocation
in
order
to
help
us
better
understand.
This
is,
at
a
you
know,
a
very
beginner's
level,
what
I
just
recounted
right,
and
so
this
is
a
consultant
that
can
get
us
to
really
dig
into
what
is
good
for
us
to
do
here
in
pittsburgh.
N
I'm
I'm
all
for
it.
That's
all
mr
chair,
thank
you.
Q
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
know
the
deliverables
and
the
in
the
the
research
they're
gonna
do.
What
is
this
called?
This
is
a
staffing.
Q
O
Well,
I
mean
again
if
director
schmidt
wants
to
add
to
this.
He
certainly
should,
but
in
general
it
is,
as
he
articulated
earlier,
a
set
of
recommendations
about
the
number
and
distribution
of
officers.
That's.
O
No,
the
number
and
distribution
of
officers
in
different
functions
and
geographic
locations,
as
well
as
the
appropriate
to
to
councilwoman
gross's
point
ratio
of
sworn
officers
to
civilians
in
certain
types
of
roles.
I
mean
that
that's
the
the
the
meat
of
the
the
product
director
schmidt,
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that,
but
that's
the
overarching
objective
and
deliverable
yeah.
R
So
just
quickly,
the
deliverables
are
basically
detailed
analysis
of
current
work,
patrol
workload,
load
and
staffing
needs,
shift,
configuration
and
assignment,
optimization
and
alternatives,
deployment
and
staffing
needs
for
specialized
field
resources,
investigative
workloads,
specialization
in
case
management,
practices,
support
staffing
functionality
and
organizational
needs
for
every
function.
Those
are
kind
of
the
highlights.
R
We
can
also
share
the
the
pulse
thing
and
work
with
you
all.
If
you.
Q
Yeah
that'd
be
great
I'd
like
to
see
that
those
bullet
points.
What
is
the
the
expertise
of
this
group's?
What's
the
expertise
of
this
group
in
regards
to.
R
That's
a
great
so
they
are
familiar
with
co-response
they've
actually
done
some
studies
around
cities
that
initiated
and
transitioned
to
or
are
in
the
process,
based
on
their
recommendations
to
a
code
response
system.
So
they
do
study
multiple
cities,
as
I
mentioned
around
code
response,
and
that
is
actually
written
in
the
scope
as
well-
that
they
will
review
how
our
police.
Q
And
co-responds,
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
in
the
scope,
but
yeah
it'd
be
great
to
have
the
the
scope.
Thanks
for
the
questions.
L
A
My
question's
simple,
if
my
memory
serves
me
correctly,
what
this
bill
doesn't
do
is
do
the
analysis
of
how
many
actual
officers
are
needed
to
service
our
city,
but
we
were
weren't.
We
doing
at
some
point
a
separate
analysis
to
try
to
figure
that
that.
O
And
I
believe
what
you're
referring
to
their
councilman
is
that
that
that
was
probably
the
the
tenor
of
the
conversation
at
budget
time
when
the
funds
for
this
study
were
placed
in
the
budget
right,
because
that
would
have
been
the
high
level
deliverable
discussed
at
that
time.
It's
it's
since
been
refined,
as
we've
worked
with
the
the
selected
vendor
to
dig
even
deeper
into
the
scope,
but.
A
O
J
A
So
that
will
take
us
to
the
beginning
of
our
agenda,
which
is
the
finance
and
law
committee
which
is
chaired
by
myself.
We
have
one
deferred
paper
bill,
378.
bill.
A
C
M
A
Any
opposed
permissive
recommendation
bill
407
bill.
C
A
M
A
Oh,
I'm
not
talking,
sorry
all
those
favors
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
invoices
are
approved.
I
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
p
card.
P
M
A
A
A
All
right,
let's,
I
think
I
saw
three
hands
we'll
start
with
councilman
cross
since
he's
online.
D
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
very
much
permit
interrogatory.
A
D
D
S
S
For
example,
in
2010
we
did
a
number
of
things
one
bill
took,
I
think,
18
months
for
us
to
finally
negotiate
out
and
with
the
police
another.
We
brought
the
the
original
pittsburgh
initiative.
Crime
was
modeled
after
the
cincinnati
model
and
we
brought
cincinnati
in
and
they
would
not
receive
them
at
that
time.
I
think
2010.
S
that
model
that
cincinnati
had
offered
to
the
city
later
became
imitated
by
the
dallas
police
department
in
their
program
and
a
few
about
a
year
or
two
ago,
the
pittsburgh
police
went
and
saw,
the
dallas
model
was
based
on
the
cincinnati
model
and
the
new
model
that
the
police
now
have
adopted
is
based
on
the
dallas
model,
which
was
based
on
the
cincinnati
model.
Same
thing
basically
focus
deterrent
crime,
mapping
the
same
stuff,
so
it
took
what
for
14
years
for
for
for
the
police
to
get
to
that
place
which
is
okay.
S
I
I
would
suggest
that
we
have
a
conversation
that
we
bring
in
the
police
and
a
group
of
council
people
to
walk
through
these
proposals,
because
I
think
when
I
looked
at
them,
some
of
them
have
unintended
consequences.
I
was
trying
to
be
very
careful,
so
there's
two
ways
to
do
this,
and
one
way
is
to
walk
through
the
proposals
and
see
which
one
of
them
we
can
do
now,
knowing
that
our
final
product
will
be
somewhat
modest
and
then
over
time,
as
the
police
get
more
comfortable,
we
can
add
in
more
teeth.
S
So,
on
the
front
end,
my
my
suggestion,
scrolls
is
for
us
to
form
a
council
committee,
along
with
the
public
safety
department,
to
walk
through
these
recommendations
with
mr
smith
and
police
and
see
between
the
two
of
us
with
the
three
you
know:
three
legs
of
stores,
the
community
us
and
the
police,
but
community
has
given
us
our
suggestion.
Let's
walk
let's
together
partner
with
the
police
and
get
their
feedback.
Does
that
seem
reasonable.
D
So
councilman,
if
I
may,
madam
clerk
break,
is
four
weeks
away,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
no
july,
19th
july
19th,
so
five
weeks
away.
Just
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
for
consideration.
C
S
D
August
yeah
it's
early
this
year
councilman
and
it
is
the
16th
of
july
when's.
D
Yeah,
yes,
so
he's.
S
B
D
Yeah,
it
really
is
around
the
scheduling
of
meetings
and
the
amount
of
meetings
we're
required
to
have
those
kinds
of
things.
So
I
just
I
didn't
mean
to
go
off
track.
Just
that.
You
know
two
weeks
will
give
us
three
weeks
before
break
if
you're
comfortable.
With
that
it's
okay,
okay,
I'm!
I
am
happy
to
support
that
if
other
members
are
comfortable
with
that
as
well.
A
A
Councilman
gross,
I
see
you're
you're,
good,
okay,
I'll
simply
say
I
would
wouldn't
mind
participating
with
you.
Councilman.
J
A
So
with
that
councilman
o'connor,
no.
D
Chair,
yes,
sir
apologize,
I
have
some
things
going
on
at
the
house
here.
I
need
to
step
away
from
the
meeting.
Can
I
ask
president
kell
smith
to
take
my
committee
when
it
comes?
Please.
C
C
P
M
A
Opposed
affirmative
recommendation
that
takes
us
to
public
sports
committee,
which
is
chaired
by
councilman
coghill.
One
supplemental
paper
bill
428
bill.
M
C
394
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
southwestern
pennsylvania
commission's
livabilities
through
smart
transportation
program
to
provide
funding
for
the
west
end
trolley
trail.
The
grant
proposal
includes
an
ask
of
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
a
local
match
of
three
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
come
out
of
the
west
end
trolley
trail
fund
for
a
total
project
cost
of
one
million
one
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
C
A
Keen
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
in
your
post,
perims
of
recommendation
that
takes
us
to
human
resources
committee
chaired
by
councilman
krauss.
We
have
one
new
paper
bill,
406
bill.
A
Any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation
that
moves
us
to
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
chaired
by
councilman
wilson.
One
deferred
paper
bill,
65
bill.
Q
Yes,
I
have
a
I've
been
holding
this
bill
for
quite
some
time
here,
for
this
specific
reason,
because
it
wasn't
sure
of
first
whether
or
not
our
or
our
staff
could,
or
actually
the
process
would
be,
would
be
good
for
for
this
type
of
situation,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
omb
office
of
omb
and
also
the
cdbg
office
for
working
through
this.
Q
You
know
health
center
like
this,
so
that
so
that
you
know
specifically,
I
think
we
all
have
some
you
know
of
these
health
centers.
I
know.
There's
the
east
end
health
center
northside
health
center,
where
people
can
go
and
and
get
health
care
for
a
reasonable
cost,
if
not
no
cost
at
all.
So
I
think
it's
a
you
know
a
good
process
to
to
take
advantage
of,
especially
that
the
the
city
now
can
work
with
a
a
local
health
center.
Q
Like
this,
I
just
want
to
make
an
amendment
to
the
bill:
zero,
zero,
six,
five.
A
N
If
the
chair
is
would
like,
we
could
read
all
of
the
property
transfer
bills
together.
Madam
clerk,
would
you
take
us
all
the
way
through
bill
405.
C
Council
district
number
two
bill
number
402
resolution
authorized
in
the
ura
to
acquire
all
the
city's
right
title
and
interest
if
any
and
into
the
publicly
owned
properties
in
the
12th
ward
of
the
city
designated
in
the
d
registry
office
of
allegheny,
county
meadow
street
and
lincoln
avenue,
council
districts
number
nine
bill.
Number
403
resolution
authorized
in
the
ura
to
acquire
all
the
city's
right
title
and
interest
if
any
in
into
the
publicly
owned
properties.
B
A
Those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
in
the
opposed
all
bills
receive
an
affirmative
recommendation
that
exhaust
our
agenda.
For
today
we
do
have
meeting
announcements
this
afternoon
at
1
30
p.m.
Council
will
hold
a
cable
cast
public
hearing
on
bill
291,
as
relates
to
a
conditional
use
application
for
the
development
of
306th
avenue.
Speaker
registration
closed
at
12pm.
Today
next
week,
council
will
hold
our
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings
on
tuesday
june
14th
and
wednesday
june
15th
respectively.
Speak
registration
closes
at
9am,
tuesday
and
wednesday
morning.
A
A
I
did
talk
to
councilman
burgess
in
favor,
say
aye
all
right
in
the
oppose
the
president
will
work
with
madam
clerk
to
get
that
schedule.
Yeah.
P
And
with
that
and
reverend,
and
can
I
just
real
briefly
I
just
well:
there
was
a
loss,
never
mind,
never
mind.
There's.