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A
A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
pre-agenda
interviews
for
Wednesday,
November,
9th
2022.,
all
right,
so
today
we
have
one
appointment
for
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund,
Advisory
Board
and
one
appointment
to
the
disruptive
property
appeals
board
for
consideration
so
typically
Council
and
it
receives
the
the
nomination
comes
over
from
the
mayor's
office
from
the
administration
and
sometimes
most
times.
We
have.
We
hold
interviews.
A
So
thanks
for
coming
here
today
we
have
Karen
Garrett
and
that's
the
candidate
for
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund
and
Parker
goldsby
Jay
Parker
goalsey
for
the
disruptive
properties,
appeals
board,
So,
currently
me
and
now
I'll,
just
I
just
say.
A
First
off
you
know
it's
great
to
have
you
here,
but
also
to
to
take
the
time
out
your
data
coming
here,
but
also
the
the
time
in
the
future
that
you're
willing
to
dedicate
to
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
its
residents,
so
I
always
say
mostly
in
campaign
times,
but
when
people
are
out
there
knocking
doors,
but
this
is
also
any
sort
of
public
service,
and
it's
like
any
sort
of
volunteer
time
is
rightfully
yours
and
I
always
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
appreciate
that
you're.
A
Taking
time
to
you
know
whether
it's
you
or
your
family,
someone's
going
to
have
to
you,
know,
give
a
little
bit
more
and
I
know
that's
difficult.
Sometimes
you
know
to
make
everything
work
out.
A
B
Bill
number
827
resolution
appointing
Karen
Garrett
to
serve
as
a
member
of
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund,
Advisory
board
for
a
term
to
expire,
April,
30th,
2026
and
Bill
number
897
resolution
appointing
J
Parker
Goolsby.
As
a
member
of
the
disruptive
property
appeals,
Board
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
for
a
time
to
expire,
December,
31st,
2024.
A
Thank
you,
madam
Clerk
members
may
join
and
I'll
recognize
them
as
they
join,
but
getting
back
to
I
was
I
was
mentioning
I'd
like
Karen.
If
you
could
start
us
off
and
then
Parker,
if
you
could
continue
just
a
brief
introduction-
and
you
know
why
you're
interested
in
serving
in
this
role.
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
Karen.
Garrett
I
am
currently
the
today.
C
Sorry
is
that
better,
okay,
perfect
good
morning,
my
name
is
Karen.
Garrett
I
am
the
director
of
at
the
Housing
Authority
City
of
Pittsburgh
I
work
in
the
Resident
initiative.
Department
I've
been
with
the
Housing
Authority
it'll
be
about
two
years.
This
January
I
started
at
the
Housing
Authority
in
the
housing
Choice
voucher
program
and
within
the
last
seven
months,
was
promoted
to
the
director
of
the
resident
initiative.
C
Department,
my
executive
director,
Castor
Binion
nominated
me
as
a
potential
candidate
to
serve
in
this
capacity
and
my
background
I
most
recently,
I
guess
within
the
last
three
years
received
my
PhD
in
public
policy
and
I
just
feel
like
that
has
kind
of
provided
the
the
Gateway
for
me
to
really
Embark
upon
this
commitment
in
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund
advisory.
D
A
And
Parker:
is
it
okay?
If
I
call
you
Parker.
E
Yes,
yeah
I
just
put
the
J
on
there
for
legal
purposes.
My
first
name's
John,
so
I
got
you
I,
don't
go
by
that
name,
I'm
Parker
Goolsby
excuse
me:
I've
been
a
resident
of
Pittsburgh
for
a
little
over
a
year,
but
very
familiar
with
Western
Pennsylvania
Allegheny
County
I
was
humbled
and
honored
to
receive
this
nomination
from
the
Brighton
Heights
citizens.
Federation
for
the
disruptive
property
appeals
board.
E
E
I
believe
I'll
be
a
great
ass
asset
to
this
board.
My
background
in
regards
to
dealing
with
different
types
of
violations
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
received
my
master's
degree
in
student
affairs
in
higher
education
in
2009,
with
the
focus
on
housing,
higher
ed
housing
and
in
that
role,
I
was
the
lead
student
conduct
person
for
all
housing
violations,
I
adjudicated,
hundreds
of
cases
in
regards
to
community
violations,
drug
and
alcohol
violations,
as
well
as
student
conduct,
violations
that
were
outside
the
realm
of
the
housing
area.
E
I
know
in
our
community
why
I
was
tapped
to
be
or
to
be
nominated,
for
this
board
was
because
you
know
they
want
to
see
change,
they
want
to
see
action,
and
you
know
sometimes
you
know
it
takes
a
village
to
really
get
that
going.
You
know
we
can't
rely
on.
You
know
certain
people,
or
you
know
the
police.
E
A
So
Karen
I
could
start
I'll
ask
a
couple
questions
so
with
the
the
Housing
Opportunity
fund.
A
C
Well,
well,
I
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
review
my
thoughts
around
the
benefits
that
could
truly
help.
Individuals
in
terms
of
home
ownership,
create
an
affordable
housing.
C
Having
worked
in
the
housing
Choice
voucher
I
recognize
that
there
are
so
many
people
that
are
out
here
with
vouchers
and
not
able
to
find
a
suitable
housing.
So
I
also
was
part
of
an
emergency
housing
voucher
initiative
that
the
Housing
Authority
received
about
a
year
ago
and
the
barriers
that
that
exist
are
momentous
in
terms
of
people
being
able
to
access
housing
and
housing
stock.
But
one
of
the
roles
that
I
currently
play.
C
C
C
Also
looking
at
the
Housing
Authority
also
has
funding
available
and,
and
we
partner
also
with
the
Ura.
So
that,
once
someone
is
committed
to
home
ownership,
they
will
also
be
able
to
have
the
funds
that
support
that
channel,
by
which
you
know
their.
What
they
consider
the
American
dream
of
owning
their
own
home
could
be
possible,
I
mean.
Certainly,
there
are
selection
criterias,
there
are
counseling
that
must
take
place.
C
There
are
budgeting
and
just
really
getting
your
finances
in
order,
and
in
some
cases,
even
becoming
employed
is
certainly
all
of
the
variants
that
we
kind
of
work
with
individuals.
So
this
opportunity
to
sit
on
this
fun
and
kind
to
look
at
the
look
a
little
differently
into
the
ways
that
this
could
potentially
help
individuals
that
are
out
there
was
certainly
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
inspired
me
and
thought
hey.
This
might
be
a
good
place
for
me
to
make
a
difference,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
A
Hey
you
mentioned
the
the
Gap
there
in
terms
of
the
voucher,
and
then
there
aren't
housing,
for
you
know
housing
options.
What's
up
with
that,
I
mean
we
have
seven
thousand
eight
thousand
vouchers
that
can't
be
used,
I
mean
I,
know,
I
mean
I,
have
some
insight
into
it,
but
I
like
to
hear
from
you
on.
You
know
how
let
me
just
kind
of
narrowed
on
the
question.
A
A
You
know
that
the
Outreach
workers
are
saying,
look
everyone's
signed
up,
but
there's
just
not
the
housing
opponent
connected
to
it.
So
we've
had
programs
in
the
past
where
PNC
has
donated
funds
to
the
Ura
really
was
500
000
back
in
2020
I
haven't
followed
it
I
should
get.
I
should
get
an
update
on
this,
but
there's
a
program
where
landlords
you
know
if
they
agree
to
to
accept
the
voucher
and
they
can
get
like
zero
percent
loans
to
fix
the
property
up.
A
C
Certainly,
some
of
the
strategies
that
are
being
used
are
really
to
work
with
the
landlords,
because
many
of
the
units
that
are
subject
for
individuals
are
now.
We
have
a
pre-inspection
so
that
at
no
cost
to
the
landlord,
if
in
fact,
their
unit
or
they're
interested
in
putting
their
unit
on
the
online
for
a
rental.
There
is
an
opportunity
for
some
pre-inspections,
because
some
of
the
housings,
as
you
are
aware
of,
are
some
are
very
old
and
some
require
a
little
bit
of
work
and
some
require
very
extensive
work.
C
So
we're
looking
at
ways
to
kind
of
bridge
that
Gap,
but
we're
also
looking
at
there's
a
lot
of
new
development
here
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
and
how
and
trying
to
try
to
I
guess
overcome
some
of
the
myths
around
what
a
Section,
8
or
housing
Choice
voucher
person
looks
like
because
that
myth
in
itself
sometimes
is
a
barrier.
Why
individuals.
A
A
A
You
know
we
need
Advocates
that
are,
you
know,
advocating
for
just
the
housing
in
general.
You
know
that
we're
going
through
a
time
right
now,
where
I
think
I
talked
to
a
few
landlords
and
their
you
know
some
are
unhappy
about
the
you
know:
eviction
moratorium,
continued,
you
know
in
the
past,
throughout
the
pandemic
and
they're
like
I'm,
being
a
lot
more
strict
now
on
who
I'm
gonna
let
in
my
property.
A
So
those
are
all
the
conversations
that
that
need
a
good,
a
good
individual
to
you
know
a
well-qualified
individual
to
go
and
address
the
situation
and
tell
them
you
know
just
just
to
just
try
and
meet
them
where,
where
they're
at
and
see
see
what
their
concerns
are,
we
are
joined
by
councilman
Krauss
on
the
line.
Councilman,
do
you
have
questions.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
not
at
this
time
I'm
kind
of
struggling
with
my
zoom
here,
but
I
appreciate
everyone
that
took
the
time
to
come
in
and
speak
about
the
their
desire
to
serve
in
these
positions,
and
thank
you
for
offering
me
the
time
to
speak.
But
at
this
point
in
time,
I
have
no
questions.
Thanks,
Mr
chair
all.
A
Right
thanks,
but
that
we'll
go
to
Parker
that
I
appreciate
you
willingness
to
serve
this
disruptive
property.
Appeals
board
is
part
of
Mayor
gainey's
plan
for
peace,
the
public
safety
plan
and
specifically,
I
think
this.
You
know
you're,
you
know
sitting
here
all
around
came
out
of
a
neighborhood
meeting
where
Chief
Wheatley
came,
and
you
know
it
was
after
you
know
some
some
concerns
that
have
some.
A
You
know:
activity
criminal
activity
that
happened
in
your
in
your
area
and
the
whole
conversation
goes
broadened
as
to
just
how
do
we
tackle
all
these
different
issues
and
so
from
there
you
know
we,
you
know,
I
was
playing
a
part
in
terms
asking
your
board.
You
know
with
Chief
like
who
you
know.
Who
would
you
like
to
you
know
if
you
got
a
nomination?
Who
would
you
select
so
I
appreciate
you
sitting
here
appreciate
your
board
for
going
through
that
process?
A
E
Sure
I
think
one
of
the
pieces
of
this
is
to
be
Community.
Based,
not
really
we're
not
here
to
you
know,
keep
putting
fines
or
liens
on
your
type
of
properties
or
designate
them.
As
you
know,
disruptive
properties,
I
really
think
having
this
board
and
this
whole
program
re-initiate.
It
is
really
going
to
show
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
its
residents
that
we
are
a
community
a
community-based.
You
know
City,
we
care
about
one
another.
E
We
really
want
to
help
people
out
I
realize
that
many
hardships
come
into
people's
lives
where,
yes,
these
types
of
violations
that
would
be
deem
you
as
a
disruptive
property
would
be
a
hindrance
to
your
life,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
realize
that
enforcement
of
those
properties
really
shows
not
only
people's
ability
to
not
only
confront
issues
in
their
Community
by
reporting
them,
whether
that
be
through
3-1-1
or
you
know,
in
more
serious
cases
by
calling
9-1-1,
which
is
you
know,
a
very
escalated
level
for
that,
and
at
the
same
time,
as
my
understanding
of
how
this
board
is
going
to
Interactive.
E
So
if
it
gets
to
that
level
where
these
individuals
or
these
households
are
going
through
a
process
where
the
city
has
deemed
them
as
a
disruptive
property,
I
would
hope
they
would
come
and
share
their
side.
There's
always
two
sides
to
a
story.
E
What
is
going
on,
where
your
property
has
been
deemed
this
way,
there's
a
a
myriad
of
different
violations
that
I
saw
in
the
past
that
have
deemed
it
a
disruptive
property
I,
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
be
updated
either
through
the
mayor's
office,
Public,
Safety
or
based
on
the
recommendations
of
this
board.
E
But
some
of
those
types
of
violations
do
seem
kind
of
archaic
and
ancient,
in
my
opinion,
but
at
the
same
time
there
is
a
understanding
that
violence
is
affecting
many
people
in
City
Pittsburgh,
not
only
my
community,
but
city-wide
and
I.
Think
that
would
this
board
will
also
be
seen
as
a
way
to
give
people
some
hope
that
there
is
a
process.
That's
in
place
that
there
is
a
process,
that's
working
and.
E
At
the
same
time,
people
in
the
community
can
have
Solace
that
if
there's
been
a
problem,
property,
that's
been
in
their
neighborhood
for
months
or
even
years.
In
some
cases
that
something's
actually
happening
and,
like
I
said
it's
I
I,
don't
want
to
be
viewed
as
someone
who
wants
to
negatively
put
people
in
a
light
that,
oh,
your,
your
property
is
disruptive.
E
My
goal
to
be
on
this
type
of
board
is
to
show
that
Pittsburgh
again
is
a
Community
Focus
city
and
that
we
are
here
to
help
one
another
out,
whether
that
be
through
civic
duty
or
by
you
know,
going
over
and
asking
your
neighbor.
If
you
need
some
help,
you
know
if
it's
a
trash
situation,
you
know,
do
you
have
a
good
relationship
to
your
neighbors,
build
those
positive
relationships
and
help
one
another
out,
so
we
don't
have
to
get
to
this
level
where
we're
deeming
properties
all
over
the
city.
As
disruptive.
A
Yeah
I
see
this
as
a
an
opportunity,
especially
people
who
are
embedded
in
the
community
when
they're
involved
in
the
board.
You
can
also
speak
to
you.
You
know
whether
it's
at
the
community
meeting
or
just
phone
calls
to
friends
that
are
concerned,
and
you
know
we
can
really
have
the
conversation
of
what's
possible
because
I
think
a
lot
of
times.
A
You
know
there
are
instances
that
happen
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
whether
it's
with
a
property
or
just
just
crime
in
general
and
and
people.
A
You
know
they
they
want
to
put
pressure
on
on,
let's
say
a
property,
and
you
know
I
think
I
think
you
know
people
on
on
the
government
side
we're
trying
to
to
do
all
we
can
to.
You
know
what's
right
for
the
community,
what's
you
know
just
within
the
law
that
we
can
even
do
and
I
think
I
think
this
is
also
an
opportunity
just
to
be
transparent
about
what's
possible,
but
also
you
know,
like
you
said
there
will
be
situations
that
arise.
A
A
So,
even
even
like
some
magistrates,
who
you
know
they,
they
partner
with
different
organizations
that
can
offer
services
when
it's
when
it's
recognized
it'd,
be
interesting
to
see
how
this
this
property,
disruptity,
disruptive
property
appeals,
board,
places
itself
within
all
the
different
things
that
are
happening.
A
All
the
different
Investments
that
are
being
made
in
the
city
in
terms
of
office
of
community
health
and
safety
partnering
with
the
the
county
probably
would
be
a
big
one
in
terms
of
Department
of
Human
Services
and
then
also
as
we
build
out
alternative
response
to
Alternative
police
response,
and
you
know,
and
all
this
because
right
now
we
have
police,
Fire,
EMS
and
so,
but
there's
been
a
bigger
push
to
to
partner
with
the
county
and
leverage.
A
You
know
all
the
services
that
they
can
provide
for
for
people
and
then
also
kind
of
create,
like
I,
said,
ochs
and
and
alternative
police
response
to
to
kind
of
meet
the
county
where
it's
at
I
think
I.
Think
that's
a
lot
of
related
leverage,
the
kind
of
like
really
pull
on
all
the
1.3
billion
dollars
at
the
County.
A
A
You
know
transparency
about
what's
possible,
having
people
in
the
community
that
can
that
can
you
know,
know
what
the
neighbors
need,
but
then
also
an
opportunity
to
recognize
services
that
are
lacking
so
I
appreciate
everything.
Councilman
Krause
is
that
if
you
have
any
questions
for
Mr
Goolsby
or
are
you
good.
A
All
right,
you've
heard
me
talk
long
enough,
I
appreciate
all
your
time
for
coming
in
and
unless
you
have
something
else
to
say.
E
I
mean
yeah,
okay.
Well,
for
me,
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
for
me,
I
did
have
a
like
follow-up
questions.
I
realized.
You
know
this
term
does
have
an
expiration
date.
Do
you
know
when
this
term
is
initiated
like
when?
Would
this
property
or
disrupt
properties?
Billboards
start.
A
So
once
we
said
there,
I
haven't
been
following
the
amount,
so
we've
been
approving
individuals
to
be
on
the
abort
to
be
on
the
board
and
there
is
I
think
once
it's
at
a
certain
number,
then
you
know
they'll
activate
it,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
put
you
in
touch
with
the
with
the
administration.
As
soon
as
the
the
mayor
would
sign
the
appointment.
Okay
because
they
will
be
the
that
would
be
the
the
ones
to
administer
that
whole
that
whole
board.
G
A
Thanks
yeah
yeah:
we
we
try
to
fund
every
you
know,
you
know
the
administration
and
then
and
then
they'll
be
responsible
for
activating
it,
so
we'll
be
in
touch
with
them.
I.
C
Didn't
have
any
parting.
I
was
pretty
clear.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
all
right
well
about
a
meeting
or
interviews
his
interview,
user
adjourned.
H
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
standing
committee's
meeting
for
a
Wednesday,
November,
9
2022.,
due
to
circumstances
beyond
our
control,
TV
live
streaming
is
unavailable
until
further
notice.
However,
meetings
can
be
viewed,
live
on
the
city's
YouTube
channel.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
roll
call
and
I
would
ask
the
clerk
to
please
take
the
role.
H
You
our
next
order
of
business,
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
run
all
speakers
at
the
rules
of
council
state
that
governments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are,
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted
after
you
recall,
please
restate
your
name
and
your
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker
is
Dr
Ronald,
Lynn
Miller.
I
Dr
Ronald
and
Miller
Bill
silver
and
the
hill
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Selma
Lovett
YMCA
on
Center
I,
invite
you
to
join
me
and
my
blue
Ballers
basketball
team.
There,
Global
intelligence,
Society,
U.S
national
candidate
for
president
2024
vote
by
voter
verification
and
uncensored
freedom
of
speech
in
public
comment
are
core
of
what
I'm
about
a
concern
of
Pittsburgh.
I
City
Council
seems
to
be
civility
into
Quorum
in
the
council
room
with
the
yellow
sheets
that
were
handed
out
today
on
7
November
2022
at
the
start
of
public
comment
during
the
Pittsburgh
Council
regular
meeting,
Mr
Wilson
Ms
strasberger
Ms
gross
Mr,
cogill
and
Mr
Burgess
all
turned
toward
the
public
comment
lecture
right
here,
but
Mr
Lavelle,
no
Mr
Lavelle.
You
were
looking
toward
the
presider
lefter,
so
all
a
PC
presenter
could
see
was
the
back
of
your
head.
This
is
civility.
This
is
decorum.
I
This
is
Middle
School
I
rlm
was
the
first
public
comment
speaker
when
the
second
PC
speaker
came
up
on
you,
Mr
laville
turned
around
you.
Do
not
dispute
this
description
as
factually
accurate
of
Your
Action
Mr
Lavelle,
your
public
publicly
recorded
witnessed
action.
In
my
view,
is
a
civil
rights
violation
for
bias
against
one
person
myself
so
I'm
going
to
take
up
some
of
my
time
here,
but
would
you
like
to
leave?
Would
you
like
to
turn
around
and
I'll?
I
Listen
to
what
I
have
to
say
a
concern
of
Pittsburgh
city
council
is
to
support
bpep
the
black
political
empowerment
project
with
gaining
approval.
Pittsburgh
Council
provides
money
to
Tim,
Stevens
and
vpep,
but
no
non-black
political
empowerment
groups,
bpep
told
black
pittsburghers
to
vote
for
Gainey,
primarily
because
he's
black
we
need
a
black
mayor.
They
were
told
that
is
not
racist.
J
Good
morning,
Shady
trees
not
shady
deals
and
Bonaire.
According
to
the
Pennsylvania
Constitution,
the
purpose
of
government
is
for
the
peace,
safety
and
happiness
of
the
people
they
serve.
The
Bonaire
Memorial
Green
Space
is
the
solution
for
the
peace,
safety
and
happiness
of
the
Bonaire
community.
Without
that
there
is
no
valid
governance.
J
J
This
was
read
at
my
husband's
funeral.
It
was
written
by
Italian
chief
Douglas,
praskovich
retired,
deputy
chief
Mike
Mullen
touched
the
lives
of
many
people.
His
uncompromising
dedication
to
his
sworn
duty
to
provide
for
the
safety
of
the
citizens
of
Pittsburgh
was
truly
exceptional
and
one
that
should
be
emulated
by
every
firefighter.
J
He
loves,
sharing
his
knowledge
of
firefighting
in
all
its
many
aspects
to
make
our
firefighters,
safer,
smarter
and
more
efficient
on
the
fire
ground
Mike
knew
most
of
the
firefighters
on
the
entire
Pittsburgh
Bureau
of
Fire
by
their
first
name
and
was
always
approachable
regardless
of
rank.
If
you
had
a
question,
he
would
stop
what
he
was
doing
to
answer
it.
He
worked
tirelessly
but
also
energetically
his
entire
career.
In
pursuit
of
more
knowledge,
his
legacy
will
serve
our
citizens
and
firefighters
for
years
to
come.
J
Michael
J
Mullen
lived
a
full
life
as
his
obituary,
so
accurately
described.
Mike
was
passionate
tireless
dedicated,
highly
conscientious
and
caring
well
done.
Michael
well
done
rest
in
peace.
My
friend
join
our
supporters,
mayor,
Gainey,
councilman,
coghill
and
state
representative
Benham
for
the
creation
of
a
green
space.
J
K
K
I
also
want
to
thank
mayor
Gainey
for
beginning
to
get
our
elevator
issues
resolved
over
at
Presley,
Street
high-rise.
That's
at
least
some
progress,
and
it's
probably
the
most
progress
we've
seen
so
far.
So
thank
you
all
for
those
beginnings
for
too
long.
The
north
side
has
also
been
known
as
the
war
side
among
communities
that
are
plagued
by
gangs.
K
To
me,
it
is
no
coincidence
that
the
shootings
had
occurred
in
three
North
Side
locations,
Cedar
Avenue,
Brighton,
Road
and
Northview
Heights,
or
all
by
three
different
hacp
Housing
Authority
City
of
Pittsburgh,
low-income
housing
projects,
I
live
in
one
of
those
projects,
so
I
know
some
of
what
goes
on.
These
three
locations
are
also
known
to
be
gang
locations
as
well,
in
order
for
our
residents
to
be
safe
and
live
a
life
deserving
of
any
pittsburgher
of
any
citizen.
K
K
K
The
shootings
are
happening
on
a
consistent
basis
on
the
north
side.
I
ask
all
contributing
to
the
violence.
To
stop.
Please
stop
the
shooting
guns
are
not
the
answer
to
any
argument.
Conflict
or
discussion
going
wrong
to
that
effect.
I've
also
been
threatened
in
my
building
by
violence,
as
well
happened
last
night
and
I
thank
God
for
my
security
guard.
K
H
L
L
Okay,
I'm
sitting
back
there
and
I'm
really
not
feeling
too
well
and
I,
see
Mr
Burgess
coming
towards
me,
but
I
put
my
head
down
so
I
know
he's
not
coming
to
mess
with
me
and
that's
what
he
did
came
and
he's
got
the
point
that
this
is
not
I
told
him
to
get
back
up
there
in
the
front
where
you
supposed
to
be
you
don't
come
back
any
other
time.
You
won't
even
be
here
when
we
speak,
you
peep
in
the
door
to
see.
L
If
people
are
speaking,
then
you
go
back
in
your
office
or
you
come
when
we
get
finished
speaking.
But
you
know
something:
Mr
Burgess
I
believe
it
was
against
the
law
for
you
to
come
and
attack
me
Target
me
so
I'm
telling
you
fair
warning:
I'm
I'm
in
the
process
of
writing
a
lawsuit
against
you
individually
and
collectively
the
whole
Council
because
of
your
colorism,
whereas
Tim
Stevens,
the
like
complected
fella,
that
you
give
money
to
that
you'll.
Let
him
speak
as
long
as
he
wants
to.
L
Even
though
I
can
only
get
three
minutes
and
with
my
three
minutes
you
miss
gross
call
Hill
talk
during
my
three
minute
time:
that's
against
the
law,
but
you
do
it
all
the
time
you
sit
on
the
sidelines.
Talking
Mr
Lavelle
last
week
got
his
phone
again
sitting
here,
fixing
while
we're
talking
you're
supposed
to
be
listening
to
us
you're
supposed
to
let
us
speak
freedom
of
speech,
expression
thought
in
my
eyes,
once
I
look
sideways,
Miss,
rudiak,
Miss
Brown,
you
must
face
the
front.
L
Do
you
understand
that
you
are
a
hundred
percent
wrong
and
you
too
I
tell
you
as
I
know.
Jim
Furlow
is
turning
over
in
his
grave
when
he
thinks
if
he
knows
what
Jen's
doing
Jim
furloughing
was
carried
out
here,
hogtied
because
he
wanted
to
use
his
freedom
of
speech,
he
became
a
councilman
to
fight
for
the
people.
For
us
to
be
able
to
speak,
he
fought
that
I
could
get
the
record
I
kept
asking.
What
are
the
rules
because
Riley
McDonald
would
start
the
meeting
with
one
or
two
councilmen
another
supposed
to
be
nine.
L
I
know
this
should
be
a
quorum
I
kept
asking.
Where
are
the
rules
of
counsel
Linda
washer
kept
saying
we
don't
have
any
in
print
he
finally
months
months
and
it
might
even
been
the
year
he
said.
Oh,
come
on,
give
the
citizens
the
books
and
they
had
to
put
them
there.
I
used
to
take
them
up
to
the
cities
up
to
the
senior
home.
They
don't
even
put
the
books
anymore,
see
they
they're
they're
good
to
start
bait
and
switch.
They
start
something.
L
M
jumpstart
to
October
29th
1949,
mayor
Lawrence
is
heckled
at
the
beach
view:
local
Lodge
for
trying
to
get
a
recreation
center
and
swimming
pool.
So
something
happened
to
that
Recreation
Center.
In
that
time
he
was
heckled
by
his
opposing
party.
M
Then
in
2002
you
guys
allotted
six,
you
guys,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
Council
allotted
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
a
senior
center,
slash
Recreation
Center
that
then
got
money
taken
out
for
an
election
cat,
a
special
election
tab
for
Valerie
McDonald
seat
or
something
like
that.
I
spoke
to
a
certain
elected
official.
Yesterday.
I
worked
the
polls.
M
He
grew
up
across
the
area
that
I
want
a
pre-fab
steel
building
40
by
60
for
under
forty
thousand
dollars
under
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
he
said
they
held
a
structure
with
a
roof
there
for
the
basketball
and
everything
else
down
on
Pauline
can
help
me.
Somebody
contact
me
I
know
you
guys.
Somebody
in
this
room
has
my
Quant
tell
me
who
to
go
to.
We
should
make
this
happen
if
it
was
there
and
it
was
taken
away
if
we
had
a
recreation
center,
a
gorgeous
one
hoity-toity
on
Sebring
and
Fallowfield.
M
M
We
still
haven't
buried
Clayton
the
kid
who
was
shot
to
death
in
the
bat
in
the
back
of
us
on
Broadway
I'm,
not
pointing
my
finger.
We
need
to
get
on
Pauline,
it's
the
easiest,
a
prefab.
They
have
there's
like
an
office
in
a
kitchen.
They
come
with
them.
They
drive
it
up
back
it
in
and
boom.
It's
there
and
you
could
still
have
a
play
playground
help
me
get
them
help
me
make
this
possible
for
these
kids.
H
B
870
resolution
further
amending
resolution
number
863
of
2018,
effective
January,
1
2019,
as
amended
entitled
resolution
adopting
and
approving
a
2019
capital
budget
and
the
2019
Community
Development
block
grant
program
and
the
2019
through
2024
Capital
Improvement
program
by
reducing
non-open
connector
Four
Mile
Run
by
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
increasing
Street
resurfacing
by
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Motion.
B
N
Sorry
session
council
president,
thank
you.
Do
we
have
someone
from
the
administration,
Mr,
post
director,
Pollock.
D
N
Thank
you.
We
are
on
the
bulbs
there
we're
not
all
on
the
ball
today,
we're
still
recuperating
from
yesterday.
Anyway,
could
you
explain
a
little
bit?
We
talked
about
taking
funding
out
for
Paving,
and
we
had
I
had
initially
taken
it
out
of
this
pot
of
funding,
but
you
think
that
you've
identified
a
better
source
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
publicly
before
I
make
any
amendments
that
the
funding
will
absolutely
not
be
used.
So
could
you.
O
Talk
yeah.
Thank
you,
council
president.
Yes,
our
guidance
or
I
guess
request
would
be
that
the
current
resolution
be
amended
to
remove
or
to
take
those
funds
from
the
20
20
capital
budget
allocation
for
the
public
safety
center
on
the
VA
site.
O
The
reason
for
that
request
is
that
there's
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
Year's
allocation
for
that
project,
as
those
are
nearly
three-year-old
funds
at
this
point
and
that
project,
while
we
remain
committed
to
executing
a
project
at
that
site,
given
the
market
as
we've
seen
a
number
of
times
at
this
table
this
year,
construction
cost
escalation
has
been
enormous
and
and
the
the
current
plans
for
that
facility
are
not
in
executable
form.
O
So
by
the
time
we
would
be
reaching
back
to
spend
these
20
20
funds
they'd
be
frankly,
very
stale,
which
is
not
a
fiscal
practice
that
we
like
to
continue.
So
you
know,
work
needs
to
be
done
to
revisit
the
designs
and
plans
for
the
site
and
we're
committed
to
beginning
on
that
work
in
good
faith
next
year
to
involve
the
concept.
O
But
in
the
meantime
there
are
active
incumbent
or
not
encumbrances,
but
there
are
active
plans
with
the
ability
to
move
into
execution
next
year
on
The
Four,
Mile,
Run
project,
or
at
least
phases
of
it,
so
removing
These
funds.
The
funds
from
that
project,
which
is
already
prepared
to
advance
much
closer
to
shovel
ready,
I'll
put
it
that
way,
a
significant
disruption.
So
that's
our
request.
N
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
So
so
the
public
knows
you,
you
we're
taking
the
funding
I'm
going
to
mend
we're
going
to
take
the
funding
from
the
public
safety
training
facility.
So
it's
not
taking
money
from
police
we're
going
to
do
the
project,
but
not
in
this
budget,
not
using
these
funds
this
year,
so
yeah.
O
Not
using
the
funds
that
are
in
the
2020,
but
we're
in
the
2020
budget
and
have
not
yet
been
expended
and
again,
the
reason
for
that
is,
as
costs
of
construction
have
changed
and
also,
as
we've
further
explored,
what's
necessary
at
that
site.
A
lot
more
planning
is
needed.
N
And
you
are
committed
to
doing
the
Public
Safety
Training.
O
We
own
the
site
and
at
present
it's
under
Federal
restrictions
for
what
it
can
be
used
for.
So
yes,
we
are
pl.
We
are.
We
are
absolutely
committed
to
advancing
a
project
they're,
just
we're
not
in
a
position
to
start
it
now.
O
Certainly,
the
the
the
I'm
sorry
I'm
blank
on
the
name
of
the
federal
agency,
but
the
federal
agency
from
which
we
we
secured
the
site,
has
a
restriction
for
Public
Safety
uses
on
the
facility.
So
this
the
what
I'm
saying
is
that
the
exact
nature
of
the
original
sketches
might
have
to
change
in
recognition
of
circumstances.
But
yes,
the
public
safety
training
facility
is
the
commitment
yeah.
N
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
amend
ment
Amendment
around
the
members
amendments
to
take
it
instead
of
from
the
flood
project
where
the
one
Oakland
connector
project
is
to
take
it
from
the
public
safety
training
facility,
which
is
not
they're
not
going
to
use
that
funding.
H
N
Let
me
just
say
that
these
are
several
streets,
that
and
several
and
more
than
one
District,
that
the
paving
is
for
the
list
of
the
streets
in
a
second.
F
You
Mr
chair,
I'm,
I'm,
not
comfortable
with
this
right
here
and
now,
as
the
chair
appointed
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
I
I
need
to
understand
in
a
much
broader
holistic
sense
the
administration's
commitment
to
the
Public
Safety
Training
Facility,
so
for
today,
I'm
going
to
going
to
vote
against
this
amendment.
That
does
not
mean
I
will
do
it
on
Tuesday
I.
F
Just
asked
Deputy
Mayor
Pollock
to
if
he
and
I
can
engage
in
a
more
broad-based
and
holistic
discussion
as
to
the
future
of
the
Public
Safety
Training
Facility
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Councilman.
A
Yeah,
so
my
understanding
is
basically
there's
some
some
old
funding
that
you,
you
feel,
should
be
moved.
So
we
can
have
like
a
refresh
funding.
O
It
there's
there's
old
funding
that
we're
not
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
spend.
We
have
not
spent
in
the
three
fiscal
years
that
it's
been
there,
we're
not
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
spend
next
year,
either
under
current
circumstances
and,
as
we've
requested
numerous
times
this
year,
it's
not
about
the
projects
themselves.
It's
about
the
timeliness
of
the
expenditure
for
Capital
funds.
So
when,
frankly,
these
funds
would
be
eligible,
I
believe
for
the
controller
sweep
next
year
anyway,
because
they
will
not
have
been
expended
in
time.
O
So,
rather
than
take
funding
from
a
project
that
is
prepared
to
move
forward
in
some
form
next
year,
only
to
have
these
funds
swept
next
year.
It
seems
prudent
if
there's
a
urgent
need
right
now
to
draw
funds
that
are
otherwise
going
to
be
included
in
this
next
step.
O
For
that
facility
again
to
actually
bring
that
to
some
degree,
we
do
have
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
the
the
early
design
process,
as
it
has
been
many
years
since
that
was
initiated
and,
as
I
said,
much
has
changed
both
in
the
facilities
needs,
as
well
as
in
the
cost
of
construction
and
the
the
cost
of
remediation
of
existing
buildings.
You
know
the
current
plan
took
into
account
building
conditions
on
the
site
that
are
many
years
old
at
this
point,
and
some
of
those
will
need
to
be
Revisited.
O
We
were
working
on
that
and
working
on
the
necessary
scope
for
a
project
of
this
size,
which
is
I,
think
a
lot
larger
and
more
complicated
than
the
original
effort
envisioned.
So
yes,
there's
some
work
being
done,
including
with
the
law
Department,
to
ascertain
how
we
would
do
that
kind
of
thing.
Then.
O
Year
no
not
named
as
such,
but
there
are
funds
for
Design
Services
in
there
that
we
are
exploring
to
happen.
A
Okay,
that'll
be
a
good
conversation
with
the
yep
the
budget
time,
the
yes
absolutely
so
that
we're
following
through
on
that.
What
what
prompted
this
increase
in
in
Street
Paving
I
mean
it's
getting
cold
out?
What's
what
are
we
gonna
pay
streets
right
now.
O
Well,
the
the
asphalt
plants
are
still
open,
so
we
are
still
Paving
the
council
president,
who
initiated
this
legislation.
Our
request
was
for
a
change
in
the
source.
She
was
drawn
from
after
a
conversation
with.
P
A
O
Think
we
all
have
my
engagement
on
the
topic
was
around
requesting
the
change
of
the
source
of
funds.
So
I
I
can't
speak
to
this
election
process.
Sorry
I'll.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
so
I
just
also
want
to
clarify
that
about
the
monocular
connect,
monoclin
connector,
formal
run.
This
is
not
with
regard
to
flooding
or
pwsa.
That
is
a
fully
separate
project.
This
is
this.
O
That
thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
Councilman
a
council
person
and
I
apologize
for
not
starting
there,
the
the
it
says
monoclean
connector
on
the
legislation,
because
that
was
the
name
of
the
project
at
the
time.
The
project
that
those
funds
will
be
expended
on
is
the
Sylvan
Trail
construction
through
Panther
Hollow.
O
This
is
the
currently
closed
portion
of
their
former
Sylvan
Avenue
right
of
way,
a
a
multi-use
commuter
Trail
that
those
are
the
the
the
current
project
that
is
associated
with
those
line
items
after
changes
to
the
plan
that
were
Advanced
earlier
this
year,.
Q
O
Sure
yeah,
it's
it's
the
same
alignment
but
a
different
plan,
a
different
construction
plan
not
to
create
a
cart
way,
but
a
trail
connection.
O
R
I
want
to
talk
about
maybe
two
things:
one
is
process,
but
the
other
is
about
the
training
facility,
and
this
is
really
more
for
the
public
and
for
members,
I
think
the
training
just
the
training
facility
is
in
my
Council
District
the
space
for
it
is
in
my
Council
District,
even
though
you're
hearing
it
talked
about
as
if
it's
a
building
it
is
not
a
building.
It
is
a
gigantic
site.
We're
talking,
maybe
30
square
blocks,
something
like
that.
R
Something
I
don't
know
what
it
is
in
acreage,
but
you're
talking
a
massive
amount
of
space,
remote
space
that
is
completely
isolated
from
anything
else.
It
is
not
a
building
sitting
on
a
block
somewhere.
It
is
a
complex
of
11
or
12
or
15
full-sized
buildings
in
a
humongous
site.
So
in
order
to
do
the
training
facility,
you
can't
just
go
and
put
a
building
there.
You
have
to
build
a
roadway
to
it.
R
You
have
to
build
the
facility
around
it,
because
it's
all
these
old
buildings
on
this
gigantic
campus,
so
you
can
make
it
safe.
It's
not
something
that
can
be
done
quickly
and
you
would
probably
have
to
take
up
probably
a
Year's
capital
budget
it
that
that
project
would
probably
take
all
of
our
capital
budget
of
at
least
a
year
to
do.
In
fact,
I'm
somewhere
in
some
I
mean
it's
just
it's
a
gigantic.
R
That's
a
it's
a
gigantic
process,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
not
that
there's
not
a
willingness
to
do
it.
We're
talking
about
something,
that's
going
to
take
us,
probably
a
decade
at
least
to
do
because
of
the
size
of
it
and
that
and
if
you
haven't
been
there,
you
know
because
it's
hidden
you,
you
would
not
see
it
unless
you
know
where
it's
at
or
you
live
in
that
Community,
because
it's
in
the
middle
absolutely
of
nowhere.
It's
it's
a
part
of
it's
against
the
river
and
I'll.
R
Tell
you
where
it's
at
for
those
of
you
are
not
familiar.
If
you
go
down
how
important,
if
you
go
down
Washington
Boulevard
to
the
right,
once
you
get
past
zone,
five,
look
up,
that's
the
site,
it
starts
at
Washington
Boulevard,
and
it
goes
back
probably
two
three
miles.
It
is
a
trick.
A
humongous
I've
been
there,
of
course,
because
I
grew
up.
You
know
in
the
community,
I've
been
around
it
before
so
humans,
adjacent
to
it
human
centers.
R
There
are
a
couple
billions
adjacent
to
it,
adjacent
to
the
site,
Job
Corps,
they're
adjacent
to
the
site,
but
they
are
small
little
buildings
comparison
to
this
gigantic
site,
so
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
this
is
a
very
harmless
Amendment,
because
this
project
is
going
to
be
so
expensive.
R
Part
of
the
plan
was
to
build
to
build
a
driving
facility
there
right
where
they
it,
where
they
can
drive
police
cars
and
teach
them
how
to
speak.
I
mean
it's
just
big
and
and
and
the
amount
of
infrastructure
money
right
before
you
even
get
to
the
building.
It
is
so
remote,
you're
gonna
have
to
in
the
soul.
You're
gonna
have
to
dig
up
the
ground
all
the
way
from
it
to
some
place
near
it
just
to
change
the
water
I
mean
it's.
R
It's
you're
talking
a
major,
almost
a
community-like,
Redevelopment
effort,
and
so
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear,
really
more
to
the
public,
because
when
you
hear
this
training
facility,
you're
thinking
of
building
on
some
block
somewhere,
not
12
13
buildings
in
a
five
mile
radius
dead
spot
right,
I,
don't
do
I'm,
not
good
with
I'm,
not
good
at
space.
That's
not
my,
but
it's
huge
I
mean
it's
gigantic
right.
It's
huge!
R
R
Yeah
I
mean
it's
big:
it's
bigger,
it's
bigger,
it's
bigger
melon,
though
it's
absolutely
bigger,
bigger
than
melon
Park,
bigger
than
any
neighborhood
normal
neighborhood.
It's
huge,
it's
the
size
of
a
community
really
by
itself,
and
it's
because
it's
hidden,
you
don't
notice
it
it's
up
by
trees,
it's
hidden.
You
have
to
kind
of
go
to
it
and
find
it,
but
it's
I'm!
Sorry!
R
The
second
thing
is
this,
and-
and
this
is
I
want
to
when
former
council
members-
you
know
I'm
I'm,
the
old
man,
Council
right,
Mr
Cross
doesn't
claim
it,
but
I
do
I'm
the
I'm,
the
old
man
on
Council
him
and
I
relationship
between
them.
This
is
a
proper
relationship
between
the
administration
and
Council
right.
They
are,
they
are
they
they.
They
have
plans
to
pay.
You
know:
25
roads,
100
rows,
whatever
that
is,
is
appropriate
for
Council
Sometimes,
They,
Come,
Together
and
negotiate
and
we're
really
Mr.
R
Pollock
has
been
just
a
gentleman
and
extraordinarily
competent
professional
and
has
accommodated
Council.
They
have
these
kind
of
conversations,
which
is
the
appropriate
conversation
to
have
where
councilors
say.
We
know.
We
know
our
District's
a
little.
A
little
little
bit-
and
there
are
these
extra
things
we'd
like
to
provide
and
as
long
as
five
members
of
council
agree-
and
so
my
sense
is
this
is
something
the
president
has
led.
Has
my
support?
R
I,
don't
think
I
have
a
street
in
it,
I
don't
think,
but
I
I
don't
think,
but
I
support
him,
but
to
the
extent
we
want
to
do
warroads
next
year.
Let's
say:
there's
some
other
roads
that
me
and
me
and
Anthony,
for
instance,
Anthony
and
I
think
a
lot
of
like
in
terms
of
infrastructure.
We
may
sit
down
and
you.
R
If
we
do
I
think
we
do
right,
we
we
tend
to
agree
on
infrastructure.
We
tend
to
really
have
not.
You
know,
have
great
great
Partnerships.
We
may
sit
down
budget
and
say
you
know
what
there's
these
three
or
four
roads
in
our
district
and
maybe
a
little
you
know,
and
so
this
sort
of
adjustment
is
a
normal,
healthy
relationship
with
the
administration,
because
it
it
it
it
it.
There
are
times
where,
because
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
know
about
you,
I
think
all
of
us.
R
It
doesn't
whatever
they
pay,
we
are
well,
they
don't
pay
the
street
in
my
Council
District.
They
don't
just
call
the
mayor's
office,
they
call
me
and
they
say
rev,
you
didn't
get
this
street
paid
when
I
didn't
really
do
it,
but
still
I,
I
I
wear
it.
So
there
are
times
that
I
have
to,
and
all
of
us
have
to
do
this,
and
so
this
is
a.
This
is
a.
This
is
a
this
is
a
healthy
partnership
and
an
example
of
how
a
council
an
Administration
work
well
together
under
an
effective
president.
H
Thank
you,
councilman
cocktail.
S
S
Do
we
attorney
facility
is,
is
we.
O
Correct
the,
let
me
explain
that
in
Greater
detail,
the
city
went
through
a
process,
I
want
to
say
in
2017
or
2018,
but
I
might
be
getting
the
exact
date
wrong
about
that
time.
To
have
the
it
was.
It
had
previously
been
a
Veterans
Administration
hospital
operated
by
the
federal
government.
The
Veterans
Administration
closed
it.
O
It
was
a
mothballed
facility
for
a
great
deal
of
time,
and
there
is
a
program
through
the
general
Services
administration,
at
the
federal
government,
for
municipalities
to
take
ownership
of
shuttered
Federal
facilities
and
with
certain
use
restrictions
that
can
be
a
zero
or
low
cost
transfer.
So
the
city
Avail
itself
of
that
program
at
the
time
and
the
restrictions
placed
on
the
site
in
that
negotiated
process
back
Public
Safety
uses
is
which
is
one
of
the
eligible
uses
under
the
the
purview
of
that
program.
O
O
And
other
purposes
related
to
Public
Safety,
a
lot
of
other
uses
were
also
contemplated
kind
of
in
that
white.
You
know
in
that
initial
brainstorming
phase,
some
of
which
were
deemed
not
at
least
deemed
at
the
time,
not
in
accordance
with
GSA
requirements,
some
of
which
were
so.
There
is
a
sort
of
preliminary
sketch,
but
that
sketch
is
now
several
years
old.
O
The
funding
that
was
allocated
to
start
advancing
it
is
now
becoming
somewhat
stale,
which
is,
as
I,
think
you'll
all
know
by
now,
a
peep
of
mine,
as
as,
like
all
of
you,
one
of
the
city's
fiduciaries
and
so
so
understanding
both
that
we
need
to
revisit
some
of
those
those
plans
to
bring
them
up
to
date
to
revisit
them.
O
Through
the
light
of
much
much
much
changed
construction
costs
in
an
inflationary
environment,
we
will
have
to
reconsider
the
way
in
which
the
plan
was
structured,
that
that's
that's
not
indicated
any
lack
of
commitment
to
the
project,
but
an
understanding
that
a
lot
has
changed
since
the
original
plans
were
made
and
at
the
remaining
funds,
which
again
are
at
Jeopardy
for
lapsing
through
the
controllers
close
next
year.
O
Anyway,
are
not
really
even
going
to
get
us
started
down
that
road,
so
you
know
in
in
a
situation
where,
as
we've
had
to
do
several
times
this
year,
we
need
to
find
the
least
disruptive
source
of
funds
to
address
an
emerging
need.
We
think
that
these
are
the
funds
that
will
least
impact
Citywide
plans
for
for
Capital
project,
as.
S
You
know
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
training
facility,
so
you
know
it
sounds
like
you
know
a
dynamite
thing,
but
I'm
also
in
full
support
for
using
this
money
from
that
project,
because
I
know,
as
councilman
Burgess
had
pointed
out,
that
we're
far
away
from
having
the
funds
to
actually
even
start
this
project
or
even
think
about
it.
S
At
this
point,
when
we
get
to
that
for
the
next
10
years,
we
will
be
able
to
apply
for
federal
grants
to
build
or
for
this
site,
or
is
this
all
going
to
be
on
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
or
how's
how's,
the
long-term
project?
Look
there.
O
Yeah
I
think
I
think
Grant
support
is
possible.
Pursuing
grants
requires
a
clearer
picture
of
the
exact
composition
of
services
and
costs
right.
We
need
all
that
information
in
order
to
pursue
them.
O
I
do
not
think
a
project
of
this
scale
is
possible
based
solely
on
the
city's
own
resources
and
and
I
I
would
say
that,
frankly,
regardless
of
what
was
going
to
be
built
there,
we
are
obligated
for
the
deed
restriction
for
to
be
a
public
safety
training
facility,
but
even
if
it
weren't,
the
remediation
of
the
existing
buildings
alone
is
larger
than
most
of
the
projects
we
do
in
a
year
so
that
we
we
really
do
need
to
take
a
bit
of
a
step
back
here.
O
I
I,
don't
not
for
me
to
characterize
the
work
that
went
into
this
to
date,
but
but
it's
just
not.
What
we
have
right
now
is
not
gonna
get
us
bowling
and.
S
So
we
won't
even
get
a
set
access.
Road
is
Master,
just
pointed
out,
and
yeah
I
mean
I'm
in
full
support
for
using
this
money
for
infrastructure.
Now,
when
we
get
to
that
point,
if
we
ever
get
to
that
point,
we
will
I
guess
see.
Let
me
ask
you
this:
do
we
have
any
ideas
to
what
we
envision
there
in
the
end
as
a
price
tag.
U
O
I
could
just
because
I
think
it's
actually
councilwoman.
It
may
be
considerably
more
than
that,
if
you
take
into
account
not
just
inflation
but
other
costs
that
were
not
fully
contemplated
in
that
initial
sketch,
which
is,
which
is
the
reason
for
me,
raising
this
issue
now
I
think
it
could
be.
Your
your
estimates
on
inflation
increase
are
sound
about
right
to
me,
but
other
unanticipated
other
things
that
weren't
factored
in
there
could
grow
the
price
tag
further.
So.
O
I
think
I
think
I.
Think
a
training
facility
is
an
appropriate
use
for
the
site
and
a
constructable
use
for
the
site.
There
are
other
other
related
uses
in
the
design
that
councilwoman
gross
is
referring
to
like
a
relocation
of
police
headquarters
there
and
other
Associated
uses
that
I
think
we
need
need
to
explore.
G
O
A
training
facility
we
do
that
I
mean
we
do
need
a
new
training
facility.
Some
some,
our
training
facility
areas
now
are
in
the
Negley
run
flood
plain:
they
can't
remain
there.
Others
are
in
least
space
which
I
would
not
prefer
that
we
continue
to
pay
the
lease
for
them.
So
so
there
is
an
absolute
need
for
a
new
city-owned
training
facility
and
I
think
this
is
a
a
the
right
site
for
it.
S
O
You
know
I
think
what
we
need
is
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
the
the
actual
design
professionals
whose
responsibility
this
is,
but
at
a
high
level
I
think
we
need
a
a
new
sort
of
comprehensive
site
plan,
and
then
we
likely
need
to
break
the
project
into
multiple
phases,
the
first
of
which
could
be
a
there,
should
be
a
training
facility
and
then
other
uses
to
come
later.
With
further
exploration
and
further
assessment
of
our
need
got.
S
It
got
it
okay,
now
I'm
in
full
support
of
transferring
this
money,
we're
not
going
to
be
using
it
in
the
near
future
anyway.
So
that's
it
for
me.
Thanks.
U
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
sorry
for
interjecting,
so
we
talked
about
this
at
the
table
on
the
record.
I
can't
really
pull
up
the
video
record,
which
is
our
minutes
when
we
had
to
approve
taking
the
site
from
the
federal
government
and
I
read
out
loud
at
the
time.
I
think
it
was
said,
uses
for
federal
property
when
disposed
from
the
GSA
and
I
asked
specifically
at
the
time,
could
Council
later
change
its
mind,
and
the
answer
was
yes.
U
U
U
I
think
that's
an
open
question
right,
and
so
our
motivation
would
be
it's
simultaneously
true
that
we
have
some
very
unhealthy
police
facilities
that
need
improvements.
Right,
I,
don't
want
anyone
to
have
leaking
bathrooms
and
flooding,
and
we
so
we
have
to
take
care
of
our
employees
for
sure,
but
there's
a
a
narrative,
some
rhetoric
out
there
that
these
very
large
you
know,
100
million
plus,
when
are
we
Korean
type
Investments
That
Could
rebuild
entire
sections
of
our
city
right,
there's
a
narrative
out
there
across
the
country
that
that
cities
should
bear
the
costs.
U
You
know
like
a
like
a
sports
arena
right
and
it's
gonna.
It's
gonna
fix
your
city
and
I'm,
not
convinced
that
they're
getting
the
results
for
the
investment,
and
so
that's
why
I
asked
those
questions
at
the
time,
because
it
was
kind
of
like
a
new
topic
that
I
didn't.
You
know
none
of
us
really
knew
about
like
oh
yeah.
Well,
we
know
that
we
have
some
really
crappy
facilities
for
our
city.
U
Employees,
fire
EMS
DPW,
are
going
to
kind
of
go
through
all
the
Departments
right,
pli
and
and
planning,
and
everybody
so
we're
in
favor
of
improving
our
facilities
so
that
our
employees
can
do
their
jobs
and
absolutely
to
get
training.
U
We
do
want
our
police
to
be
trained
on
how
to
be
you
know,
making
the
public
safer,
but
it's
there's
no
proof
that
these
elaborate
many
many
many
many
many
million
dollar,
for
you
know
kind
of
again
reason:
I
just
want
to
keep
calling
it
a
resort,
I
think
in
Atlanta,
there's
a
they're
undergoing
this
conversation
and
there
they're,
calling
it
cop,
City
and
there's
a
a
large
opposition
to
the
proposal.
U
O
That's
that's
my
understanding
as
as
well
again,
we're
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
you
very
put
very
well
just
now,
councilman,
we
are
committed
to
a
new
training
facility,
but
some
of
the
other
you
you,
you
hit
an
important
Point
as
it
relates
to
the
co-location
of
other
aspects
on
the
same
site
versus
in
different
locations
and
so
I
think
I.
Think
training
is
the
key
utilization.
We're
looking
at
here
and
perhaps
in
focusing
specifically
on
training
and
not
other
types
of
Public.
O
Safety
use
is
all
co-located
in
the
same
place.
We
could
both
reduce
the
cost
and
produce
an
implementable
project
and
and
avoid
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
in
other
cities.
That
did
those
massive
campuses.
It
again
goes
back
to
the.
It
was
a
point
in
time
right
when
the
initial
proposal
was
was
created
and
we've
now
learned
some
things
from
that.
O
U
Right
on
my
phone
on
the
front
page
of
the
general
Services
Administration,
the
federal
government,
it
says
like
when
we
we
dispose
real
property.
You
can
use
it
for
some
kind
of
public
good
right
so
like
homelessness,
affordable,
housing
right,
and
so
it's
like
right
on
front
page.
I,
don't
have
this!
You
know
when
we
were
discussing
this
in
depth
in
2018.
I
had
like
all
seven
I,
think
in
front
of
me,
and
we
just
can't
find
it
right
now,
but
there
are
other
uses.
U
It
has
been
a
number
of
years,
there's
some
proof
of
concept
in
other
cities
that
we
didn't
have
at
the
time.
That
doesn't
look
positive
to
me,
and
so
it's
like
lack
of
proof
of
concept
and
that
there
there
are
other.
We
should
look
at
what
our
city
needs
are.
O
If
I
could
also
have
one
more
observation,
the
the
the
plan
that
was
created
at
that
time
envisioned
a
new
expansive
Emergency
Operations
Center,
since
the
onset
of
covid
we've
moved
our
Emergency
Operations
Center
completely
online,
so
that
it
made
it
virtual.
So
the
public
safety
staff
are
in
the
city
can
convene
virtually
to
have
those
disc
those
planning
discussions,
and
it's
worked
very
well
such
that,
even
though
now
we
are
back
to
in-person
business,
those
those
meetings
continue
to
happen
virtually
so.
O
The
need
for
a
you
know
rather
expensive
conference
room
for,
for
that
purposes,
is
much
much
reduced.
Just
to
give
you
an
example
of
ways
in
which
the
plans
can
evolve
as
time
changes.
Thank.
N
Want
to
first
thank
you
for
working
with
me
on
this
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
actually
had
the
conversation
about
what
this
meant.
Public,
Safety
I
would
I
would
be
really
I
said.
I
will
never
take
a
dollar
from
the
from
the
police
or
to
do
anything.
That
is
not
me.
That's
not
my
agenda.
N
I
know.
Other
people
may
feel
differently.
That's
that's.
Fine.
I
would
never
do
that.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
making
it
clear
that
it
would
never
happen.
So
that's
why
he's
at
the
table
today
to
make
sure
I
felt
comfortable,
so
I
could
feel
comfortable
moving
it
this
way
and
moving
and
taking
the
Thunder
From
a
Different
source.
N
So
thank
you
for
that,
but
also
you
made
it
clear
to
me
so
I
understand
people
want
to
do
their
due
diligence
and
talk
to
others
and
to
make
sure
but
I
think
when
the
person
who
stands
right
below
the
mayor
says
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do.
You
can
talk
to
10
other
people
in
the
city
if
they
see
something
different.
It
doesn't
matter
he's
he's
here
to
reflect
what
the
mayor
wants
and
that's.
What's
that's
what
happened.
So
thank
you
for
that.
But
I
do
want
to
say.
N
N
You
can
say
things
that
have
happened.
He
did
do
some,
some
really
good
things,
and
that
was
one
of
them
and
he
wanted
us
to
use
the
facility
as
a
way
to
train
not
just
police
but
police,
Fire,
EMS
and
other
they
even
said,
potentially
Po
and
I
and
other
inspectors
and
other
people
across
the
country
and
charge
other
people
coming
in.
N
N
So
that's
where
the
idea
came
from
and
we
were
supposed
to
look
in
District
Two
in
my
area,
which
we
did
look
in
a
place
and
then
somebody
with
a
little
more
power
than
me
decided
they
wanted
that
place
over
there,
not
on
city
council,
and
so
they
they
looked
at
that
place.
So
I'm
going
to
once
again
say:
there
is
a
place
in
East
Carnegie
with
saloni
Bakery,
which
is
a
lot
of
land,
very
private
borders,
the
several
neighborhoods.
N
N
So
let
me
just
put
that
out
there
and
we
could
probably
use
the
other
facilities
councilwoman
gross
mentioned
for
the
homeless
housing
that
we've
been
trying
to
look
into
and
trying
to
do,
even
if
you
did
a
little
at
a
time
and
made
it
more
of
a
community
and
even
if
you
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
to
keep
those
buildings
but
maybe
put
in
some
tiny
homes
or
something
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
more
creativity
that
we
could
maybe
look
and
work
at
work
through.
N
I
just
want
to
say:
that's
not
unless
it's
just
not
scrap
and
just
say
that
that's
what
that
we're,
definitely
using
it
for
that
facility
because
there's
options
there
are
options
just
towards
you.
So
that's
why?
But
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
that
and
then
I
did
want
to
mention
about
Chief
Harper
and
Daryl
Jones
I'm.
Sorry,
Chief
Jones
also
went
with
with
me
that
day.
O
And,
and
just
to
underscore
point
you
made
there
yeah,
the
vision
is
for
training
facilities
for
all
Public
Safety
Services,
not
exclusively
for
police
and.
N
If
we
didn't
take
money
out
of
the
budget
throughout
the
year
from
Paving
every
time
we
take
money
from
the
budget
for
different
projects,
we
sometimes
take
most
of
us
take
it
from
behaving
because
it
seems
like
an
easy
thing
to
do.
We
wouldn't
be
having
to
do
this
now,
so
we
could
have
just
left
it
in
there
and
it
would
have
been
done
so
I
just
want
to
say
no
thank.
P
F
G
U
U
It
is
just
almost
impossible
and
folino
crews
are
just
flying
all
over
the
place
without
any
safety
controls
and
trucks
are
pulling
out
in
the
middle
of
even
Penn
Avenue,
without
even
a
flag
and
they're
just
flying
all
around
I
know
it's
because
we're
you
know
they
got
lucky
with
the
weather
holding
out,
but
they
were
so
far
behind.
There
are
10
foot
by
10
foot
by
10
foot,
deep
pits
with
giant
Metal
Sheets
of
them.
U
So
if,
if
we
keep
getting
like
with
the
weather,
I
might
be
moving
some
money
to
you
know
to
help
with
some
other
things.
I
also
have
an
alley:
that's
falling
into
people's
backyards,
a
Morningside
our
alley
collapsed
into
three
yards
and
I'm
I
was
told
we're
just
out
of
emergency
money
for
that
we
can't
fix
it,
but
we
got.
We
got
really
lucky
with
the
construction
season
here.
So
if
it
holds
out
I
I
think
I've
got
some
things.
I
need
to
spend
some
money
on.
O
On
the
emergency
funds
for
slides
I,
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
ourselves
but
more
to
come
on
that
next
week.
Okay,.
U
I
appreciate
it
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
and
so
this
is
a
lengthy
discussion
on
this
other
topic.
This
public
safety
Village
that
you
know
we
didn't
intend
to
really
have
today,
but
I
did
find
the
link.
Thank
you
to
my
staff.
Thank
you.
Gl
and
so
public
benefit
conveyance
legislation.
It's
on
the
federal
government
site.
U
It
says
disposal.tsa.gov,
so
the
top
one
is
Correctional
Facility
law
enforcement,
Emergency
Management,
the
second
one
is
educational
use
and
there's
a
paragraph
describing
under
each
that
I
won't
keep
going
today,
but
so
that
citizens
can
look
themselves
and
I'll.
Send
this
to
to
members
highways
are
widening
of
public
roads.
God
knows
we
don't
need
that,
certainly
not
on
top
of
a
hill
above
the
river
historic
monuments,
homelessness,
assistance
negotiated
sales
sounds
to
me
in
something
like
build
your
own
top.
U
You
know,
use
public
Airport,
public
health
uses
public
parks
and
recreational
areas,
Port
facilities,
there's
about
you,
know,
200
foot
elevation
drop
for
for
report
on
the
river
there,
self-help
housing,
meaning
kind
of
like
people,
literally
using
Sweat
Equity
and
lastly,
on
this
website.
Wildlife
conservation
so
just
wanted
to
say
that
into
the
record.
Thank
you.
That's.
H
Thank
you,
councilman
cocktail.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
having
trouble
with
my
zoom
this
morning.
I
apologize,
a
couple
of
things
come
to
mind,
director,
Pollock
and
and
members
colleagues,
I
I
worry
big
picture
somewhat
about
our
commitment
to
facilities
and
the
importance
that
facilities
bring
to
the
health
safety
welfare
well-being
of
constituency
I'm
reminded
of
director
Pollock,
where
you
and
I
met
on
the
library
board
campaign
to
keep
libraries
open.
F
We
were
facing
six
branches
closing
and
we
learned
the
importance
of
facilities
in
in
that
discussion
and
that,
even
though
we
are
living
in
a
digital
age-
and
there
are
other
ways
that
we
can
do
things
and
communicate
that
the
brick
and
mortar
is
is
still
an
incredibly
important
component
and
so
bigger
picture.
I
I
worry
about
our
commitment
to
facilities
and
what
that
what
that
might
mean
if
for
the
future,
not
just
today,
but
five
and
ten
years
from
now,
we
are
now
about
and
I.
F
Forgive
me
for
going
down
this
road
and
I
hope
I,
don't
spark
a
conversation
that
we
don't
need
to
have
right
now,
but
we
are
about
to
enter
our
seventh
year
with
the
idea
of
creating
a
a
public
works
facility
that
serves
Southwest
of
the
river,
and
we
are
still
no
closer
today
to
the
construction
of
that
facility
than
we
were
really
seven
years
ago,
and
so
then,
to
fast
forward
that
to
the
public
safety
training
facility,
I
was
hoping
to
bring
the
conversation
around,
which
It
ultimately
did
that
it
is
a
public
safety
training
facility
it
does
it
does
it
would
house
police,
Fire,
EMS
and
even
a
broader
Spectrum
if
we
were
to
bring
in
like
pli,
and
it's
also
a
Cooperative
agreement
between
County
and
City.
F
It
was
never
intended
to
be
solely
based
on
the
backs
of
taxpayers
of
the
city
to
create
this
training
facility
and
then,
as
I
believe
was
council.
President
Gail
Smith
brought
up.
There
was
some
intent
to
be
able
to
even
nationalize
it
because
of
its
expertise,
cheese
to
actually
provide
Training
Services,
even
further
municipalities
throughout
the
United
States.
So
I
understand
it's.
F
It's
a
far-reaching
project
and
it's
a
far-reaching
vision,
but
every
Journey
Begins
with
one
step
and
I
I
worry
about
the
public
perception
of
the
second
time
now
that
in
in
you
know
in
very
difficult
times
throughout
the
nation,
in
terms
of
Public
Safety,
that
we
are
taking
funds
away
from
the
project
and
and
I
understand,
they're
small
amounts,
but
I
I,
guess:
I'm
talking
a
more
spiritual
holistic
approach
to
our
commitment
to
ultimately
seeing
not
just
the
facility
come
to
fruition,
but
the
the
respect
that
is
due.
F
Our
Public
Safety
officials
to
provide
them
with
the
tools
necessary
to
do
their
jobs
and
training
is,
is
Paramount
in
in
in
our
Our
obligation
as
a
council
to
provide
for
our
Public
Safety
officials
that
they
they
are
adequately
and
accurately
and
professionally
trained
and
given
the
the
resource
they
need
to
perform
their
already
increasingly
difficult
jobs
that
we
ask
them
to
do
so.
F
My
my
opposition
really
isn't
a
in
a
broader
conversation
and
not
limited
solely
to
just
the
fact
that
that
some
members
would
like
to
see
the
funds
reused
in
another
way.
My
and
then
not
to
end
on
on
a
sour
note,
I
I
don't
mean
that
to
be,
but
you
know
there
was
some
conversation
around.
This
is
how
councils
work
together.
F
I
have
been
asked
to
chair
the
Committee
on
Public,
Safety
and
I've.
Learned
of
this
live
on
air
as
the
cons
as
the
conversation
has
taken
place
and
was
not
brought
into
any
of
the
conversations
around
changing
the
funding
source
for
the
bill
and
to
to
reuse,
Public,
Safety,
Training
Facility
dollars,
and
that
disappoints
me
and
I
hope
we
will
not
do
that
in
the
future.
So
I
will
remain.
F
I
will
remain
a
no
vote
today
and
most
likely
at
the
end
of
this
as
well
too,
but
again,
director,
Pollock,
I,
appreciate
your
your
time
and
effort
and
energy
in
entertaining
me
in
a
much
broader
facility,
a
conversation,
a
more
holistic
conversation
about
our
commitment
to
training
the
men
and
women
that
do
the
very
difficult,
Public
Safety
jobs.
We
ask
them
to
do,
and
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
S
S
However,
you
know
I
was
a
big
supporter
of
it.
I
know,
for
instance,
there's
at
least
one
Council
woman
here
who
would
love
to
see
the
firing
range
out
of
her
current
District
for
multiple
reasons
and
I.
S
O
O
Redevelopment
of
the
site
would
likely
require
the
Demolition
and
or
significant
Rehabilitation
of
some
of
the
existing
buildings,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
earlier
comments,
the
cost
of
doing
that
has
likely
changed
since
the
site
was
acquired,
both
because
of
changing
cost
of
construction
and
because
their
condition
has
likely
changed
in
that
time,
and
we
don't
have
sitting
here
today
an
updated
assessment
of
those
conditions.
So
there
is
an
opportunity
cost
to
delay
to
a
degree
as
it
relates
to
what
it
would
take
to
do
that.
O
But
it's
it's
not
really
an
Apples
to
Apples
comparison,
because
we
don't
at
present
have
an
executable
plan
for
what
we
would
do.
So
we
would
be
getting
ahead
of
ourselves
to
begin
that
process
up
there
now
I
think
that
answers
your
question.
S
Yeah
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
at
another
training
facility
being
the
condition
of
the
current
ones,
and
only
because
I
don't
foresee
this
happening
for
a
long
time
because
of
the
price
tag
on
it
so
and
if
there
are
other
ways
as
councilwoman
gross
brought
up
as
to
you
know
other
ways
we
could
use
this
this
land.
It
might
be
more
advantageous
to
look
at
other
avenues
and
probably
easier
to
get
funding
for
those
other
avenues.
Possibly.
O
Certainly
happy
to
have
those
conversations
I
just
want
to
reiterate
our
Bedrock
commitment
to
renew
training
facilities,
because
they're
needed
but
happy
to
entertain
any
conversation
that
any
member
would
like
to
have
around
alternative
locations.
I
just
will
also
again
point
out
that
I
believe
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
the
high
cost.
O
We
would
be
looking
for
ways
to
reduce
that
cost
through
a
revised.
Look
at
the
the
plan
itself,
which
is
again
why
I
think
that
exercise
is
necessary
and
that
these
funds
would
not
be
ready
for
deployment
next
year.
So.
O
S
Yeah
I
would
I
would
just
like
to
know
that
we
are
actively
pursuing
and
looking
at
other
sites
simply
for
the
price
tag
alone,
so
because
the
facilities,
the
training
facilities,
are
very
important.
We
want
them
to
have
first
class
facilities.
We
want
to
get
the
firing
range
out
of
councilman
gross's
district,
and
you
know
consolidate
things
I'm
just
beginning
to
wonder
if
this
is
the
right
place
because
of
the
price
tag.
That's
all
so
thanks.
H
N
You
and
I'll
say
that
I
do
think.
Brian
Ralston
does
a
great
job
trying
to
communicate
with
them,
but
they
just
kind
of
have
their
own
their
own
agenda.
So
but
I
just
want
to
say
the
streets
are
Woodville
Grandview
McCartney,
all
in
District,
Two,
landless
and
District
Six
Forest
Glen
Road
in
District
Five,
and
he
says
that
another
Street's
being
held
for
utility
for
the
third
year
in
a
row.
N
O
I
just
reassure
Council
as
a
former
utility
employee,
myself,
I
I,
I
I
I
I,
agree
that
we
need
to
improve
that
coordination.
I
think
it
is.
We
have
some
obligations
to
to
improve
on
our
end,
which
we,
this
Administration
initiated
very
early
this
year
with
the
goal
of
having
a
more
it's,
it's
not
for
any
lack
of
of
effort
or
hard
work.
As
you,
you
pointed
out,
council
president,
the
folks
who
who
seek
to
handle
that
coordination
do
an
excellent
job.
O
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
start
the
coordination
process
earlier
in
the
year
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
schedules
are
aligning
again.
We
we
took
an
initial
step
on
that
this
year,
but
planned
to
start
earlier
the
following
year,
and
there
are,
there
are
a
few
long
in
process
technology
projects
that
will
make
our
and
the
other
utilities
lists
more
intercommunicable.
That
I
think
will
help
us
fix
that
process,
but
that's
an
ongoing
conversation,
one
that
we're
taking
very
seriously
I.
N
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
but
I
also
want
to
say:
I
do
think
that
we
have
twofold
to
have
a
person
who
really
does
handle
the
utilities
firmly,
and
then
people
complain
about
them,
and
so
you
have
one
you
either
have
to
build
a
relationship
with
them
or
you
have
to
hold
them
accountable
and
it
seems
like
there's
not
a
good
balance
for
those
people.
Someone
say
it's
unfair
to
our
employees.
That
aren't
being
you.
O
Know,
there's
also
reported
by
it,
there's
also
a
tension
between
putting
the
road
back
in
service
as
quickly
as
possible
and
getting
full
restoration
as
soon
as
possible,
and
they
compete
with
each
other
for
resources.
So
a
more
efficient
system
around
that
is
important
as
well.
I.
N
Think
it's
good
that
you're
having
the
conversations
and
I
do
want
to
say:
I
apologize
I
should
have
mentioned
to
councilman
Krause.
That
I
was
doing
this,
but
I
also
should
have
mentioned
to
councilman
call
Gill,
because
it
was
in
the
in
the
committee
that
he
represents,
but
I
think
we
all
do
that
to
one
another,
but
I
apologize
I
should
have
Commit
you're
getting
better.
Thank
you.
F
H
One
in
opposition,
the
amendment
does
pass
any
further
discussion
on
the
bill
is
amended,
the
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
B
B
I
B
G
N
You
and
I
want
to
first
thank
everyone
for
working
on
the
roles
of
council.
We
actually
had
several
letters
in
Stan
Friesen
here,
yeah.
P
N
I
want
to
First
thanked
the
rules.
Committee,
councilman
Krause
has
been
sharing
it,
councilman
Wilson
councilwoman
gross
councilman,
Burgess
and
councilwoman
strasberger,
who
also
added
contributed
to
some
of
this
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
your
and
all
members
who
just
gave
a
lot
of
input
on
this.
We
actually
can
you
give
a
little
synopsis.
We
decided
to
do
this
because
it
wasn't
like
we
wanted
to.
It.
Was
the
Law
Department
sent
us
several
emails
about
updating
the
rules
during.
W
The
discovery
Dan
frutes
and
solicitor
for
City
Council,
so
the
sunshine
Act
was
amended
in
August
of
2021.
Prior
to
that,
there
had
been
several
memos
from
the
Law
Department
asking
for
or
recommending
I
should
say
certain
changes
to
the
rules
of
council.
In
addition
to
that,
through
public
comment,
a
few
public
commenters
had
mentioned.
They
wanted
some
changes
and
then
also
council
members.
W
So
it's
been,
you
know,
20
kind
of
situation,
I
wouldn't
say
this
is
a
final
version,
but
this
is
a
version
that
has
all
of
those
different
chefs
ingredients
in
it,
for
you
guys
to
discuss
and
make
an
ultimate
decision,
but
I
do
think
that
the
Law
Department
remains
unclear
as
to
how
or
what
we
would
like
to
do
with
public
comment
and
so
I
think.
A
discussion
in
an
executive
session
would
be
the
best
way
to
handle
getting
Clarity
on
that.
N
So
we're
going
to
do
two
things:
we're
going
to
call
for
an
executive
session
and
we're
also
going
to
call
for
public
hearing,
because
we
want
to
hear
what
the
Public's
thoughts
are
on
on
the
recommendations
and
we
have
looked
into
other
places
and
what
they've
done
you've
talked
to
other
attorneys.
We've
talked
to
so
I
want
to
thank
you
because
you've
reached
out
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this
and
you've
contacted
several
attorneys
and
previous
solicitors.
N
Current
solicitors
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
them
for
their
help
as
well
and
for
their
input.
But
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
I
know
we
consumed
consumed
a
lot
of
your
time,
but
I
want
to
thank
councilman
cross
where
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
these
as
well.
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
time
that
he
spent
on
on
getting
these
moving,
because
it
was
really
important
that
we
got
them
moving.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
too,
would
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
council
president
Kel
Smith,
hello,
Murphy
to
the
fire.
It
was
very
important
that
we,
we
did
a
re-examine
of
examination
of
the
rules
at
this
time,
largely
because
of
a
post-pandemic
and
changes
that
needed
to
to
reflect
in
our
in
our
roles
as
to
how
Council
conducts
itself
as
a
body
in
light
of
new
technologies,
new
ways
of
participation
in
meetings,
the
changing
some
sunshine,
a
law
that
we
needed
to
reflect
in
there.
F
So
it
was
an
important
time
to
to
take
a
look
at
these
and
to
and
to
do
the
revision.
So
I
I,
especially
want
to
thank
council
president
Kell
Smith
for
her
help
and
assistance
and
I
want
to
thank
Dan
friedson,
who
I
I
drove
absolutely
crazy
through
the
process.
But
he
was
a
really
really
good
sport
about
it
and
I
I
know
I
I.
You
know
kind
of
focus
on
detail,
but
I
I
felt
it
was
very
important.
F
So
Dan
I
really
appreciate
your
your
willingness
to
to
entertain
the
different
revisions
that
that
we
sought
as
we
went
through
there.
But
you
were
very
much
responsible
for
us
being
where
we
are
today,
with
with
the
the
almost
completion
of
the
rules
here.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
and
all
members
of
the
of
the
task
force
and
and
members
at
large,
for
taking
the
time
to
make
certain
that
you
know,
for
those
that
are
that
are
watching.
F
The
the
rules
of
counsel
are
are,
are:
are
our
public
just
our
public
display
of
to
our
constituency
constituency
as
to
how
the
governing
body
governs
itself
and
that's
the
importance
of
the
rules,
and
so
they
are
I
think
it
was
even
perhaps
your
mind
Francine
Brown
that
might
have
brought
up
something
this
morning
about.
F
You
know
about
the
rules
of
council
and
perhaps
at
one
time
not
being
as
available
as
she
might
have
liked
them
to
be.
But
it's
very
important
in
in
the
in,
in
the
name
of
transparency
that
the
our
constituency
knows
how
the
governing
body
governs
itself
and
that's
the
purpose
of
the
rules
and
why
they
are
so
very
important
to
make
sure
that
they
are
always
updated
and
available
to
the
public
at
large
to
to
see.
So.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Those
are
my
comments.
U
I
again,
I
just
want
to
say
this
into
the
record
I'm
gonna
vote
yesterday
and
I
thank
everyone
for
moving
forward.
But
there
is
a
section
that
I'm
uncomfortable
with
that
is
about
the
tension
between
the
mayor's
law.
Department's
interpretation
of
the
state
Sunshine
Law,
and
this
section
in
our
city
of
Pittsburgh
home
Rule
Charter,
which
says
that
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
cannot
introduce
legislation.
U
U
And
to
me,
that's
the
public
posting
of
the
agenda
that
city
council
is
going
to
take
up
eight
days
later
and
I
said
that
to
the
mayor
solicitor
and
she
said
yes,
councilman
I
said
it's
like
you
know.
In
the
era,
we
you
didn't,
have
a
high
level
of
literacy
or
you
didn't
have
other
ways
of
publicly
posting.
Like
remember,
we
used
to
have
like
Town
criers,
who,
like
would
say
the
things
and
she
said.
U
U
Those
are
get
assigned
to
chairs
of
committees,
those
have
the
option
of
being
taken
up
by
Council
or
not,
but
the
way
we're
doing
it
now
and
the
way
these
these
rules
say
to
do
it
is
that
it
says
that
we
have
to
kind
of
post
publicly
the
mayor's
legislation
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
true,
so
we
act
like
we're
pocket
vetoing
when
we're
not
actually
putting
it
on
the
table
yet,
but
I
think
it's
actually
a
core
function
and
right
according
to
Homeworld
Charter
of
the
city
council,
and
so
it's
it's.
U
You
know
it.
It's
working
the
way
we're
doing
it,
but
still
I
feel
like
we're
getting
we're
giving
ground
a
little
bit
and
I.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
say
that
out
loud
and
say
to
my
colleagues
and
into
the
record,
because
there
have
been
many
ways
since
the
home
roll
Charter
was
created,
that
Council
has
kind
of
acknowledged
that
we've
kind
of
abdicated
a
little
bit
of
our
powers
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
note.
U
W
I
tried
to
capture
your
concerns,
councilwoman
gross,
and
it's
in
on
page
14
of
the
new
substituted
one
under
legislation,
there's
a
section
one:
a
protocols
for
legislation
sent
from
the
mayor's
office
to
city
council
which
clarifies
the
home,
Rule,
Charter
and
and
just
for
your
own
edification.
This
language
here
came
apartment.
W
It's
not
my
original
language,
but
I
thought
it
still.
It
didn't
change
the
nature
of
your
concern
and
we
tried
to
address
the
concern
here
where
it
just
there's
one
exception
in
the
Homeworld
Charter,
where
it
says
when
it
comes
to
the
organization
of
units
of
government.
The
mayor
can
introduce
legislation
but
other
than
that,
and
they
still
need
a
council
member
to
sponsor
it
to
bring
it
to
the
table,
but
other
than
that
you're
correct.
The
Homeworld
Charter
says
that
only
a
council
member
can
introduce
legislation,
and
so
that
is
clarified
there.
W
And
then
it
says
that
you
know
the
the
clerk's
office
has
this
been.
The
tradition
will
use
their
best
judgment
to
assign
it
to
the
chair
of
the
appropriate
committee
and
that
the
mayor's
office-
and
this
is
what's
different-
the
mayor's
office
shall
make
its
best
efforts
to
notify
the
potential
introducing
council
members
of
any
such
proposed
legislation
before
depositing
it
with
the
clerk.
And
then
it
clarifies
that
I'm.
U
Just
going
to
stop,
because
if
I
have
the
floor,
that's
not
so,
but
it's
it's
later
on
page
15,
where
it
says
that
we
have
to
post
it
I
think
48
Hours
previous
to
a
regular
meeting
right,
and
so
this
thing
that
we've
been
doing,
which
we
can't
walk
in
the
room
and
put
a
new
paper
on
the
table
unless
there's
a
vote
to
waive
the
rules.
I
disagree
with
that
part.
I
think
that
is
a
Core
Power
that
we
have.
U
But
it's
not
a
power
that
the
mayor
has,
but
this
sending
out
the
agenda
to
the
public
before
our
regular
meeting
of
mayor's
new
papers.
I,
don't
think
we
have
to
do
that
because
we're
we're
we're
announcing
them
when
we
read
the
new
paper
and
then
we're
waiting
eight
days
to
actually
have
them
on
the
agenda
so
I,
but
I'm
voting
yesterday,
but
I
I
because,
like
I
said
the
way
we're
doing
it
has
taken
away
a
little
bit
of
our
powers.
But
we've
been
doing
it
this
way
for
a
long
time.
U
P
F
Thank
you,
I'll
keep
my
remarks
brief.
There
are
parts
of
councilwoman
gross's
arguments
that
I
I
agree
with.
There
are
parts
of
the
rules
that
I'm
not
100
percent
comfortable
with,
but
that's
democracy.
That's
you
know
that
that's
sort
of
how
these
things
get
made,
and
so
you
you
know
I
like
to
say
perfect,
is
the
enemy
of
the
good
and
we
we
do
strive
for
perfect,
but
oftentimes.
We
have
to
settle
for
good
and
that's
okay.
F
I
think
where
we
are
today
is
we're
in
a
good
place
and
with
the
bill
as
amended
and
there's
opportunity
for
ample
reconsideration
and
any
other
minor
tweaks
members
would
like
to
see
before
we
ultimately
pass.
So
I
certainly
will
vote
in
favor
of
the
amended
legislation
today
and
be
happy
to
participate
in
any
other
minor
tweaks
that
members
may
wish
to
see
before
we
bring
it
to
final
vote.
Thank.
U
H
R
The
most
influential
Council
this
city
has
had
probably
40
years,
maybe
50
years.
Certainly
during
my
time
on
Council
Elise
Elise,
going
back
to
sort
of
the
furlough
days.
My
mentor
and
friend
there
was
a
concerted
effort
who
who
deauthorized
Council
act.
47
absolutely
positively
took
council's
Authority
away
unilaterally
under
act
47,
we
were
restricted
in
passing
a
budget,
the
bat,
the
budget
that
we
received
had
been
passed
by
the
act,
47
people
in
ICA
before
it
even
got
to
council
and
we
were
restricted,
I
think
it
was
two
percent.
R
It
may
have
been
Sean's
in
the
room.
It
was
something
one
it
was
close
because
I
was
I
was
trying.
I
was
financed
chair
at
least
two
years.
During
that
process
it
was
a
deliberate
attempt
to
say
or
to
Inc
into
intimate.
The
council
was
not
capable
of
doing
its
Authority
and
transacting
The
Business
of
the
city.
R
We
survived
that
and
now
we
stand
as
a
co-equal
as
the
charter.
I
am
a
supporter
of
this
mayor
period
publicly
and
privately,
but
I'm.
Also,
a
member,
Council
and
I
believe
we
have
a
co-equal
not
individually,
but
as
a
body
we
have
a
co-equal
relationship
with
mayor
in
terms
of
our
our
overseeing
the
city
and
so
I
will
I
I
I
I
will
not
I
won't,
say
I'll
never
vote,
but
I
will.
R
I
will
never
advocate
for
counsel
to
reduce
its
role,
to
reduce
its
staff,
to
reduce
its
its
resources
to
reduce
its
influence.
All
those
are
measures
of
a
council's
capacity
to
do
the
business
of
the
city,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
the
this
is
the
people's
table.
We
are
the
most
direct
right.
We
are
the
most
direct.
R
I
was
in
the
room
when
they
brought
the
team
from
Virginia
to
sue
the
city
to
have
us
elected
by
District,
specifically
so
that
people
in
our
city
were
not
able
to
have
their
voices
heard.
In
that
case
it
was
African-American
residents
because
the
districts
were
being
elected,
Council
was
elected
as
a
whole,
and
so
the
black
elected
officials
were
actually
picked
by
party
leadership
and
there
was
no
independent
vote
for
independent
voices,
and
so
this
voice
stuff
is,
is
not
ceremonial.
R
I
have
sort
of
I,
think
I
think
I'm
the
longest
serving
now
African-American
city
government,
in
terms
of
representing
the
city,
I,
think
I
am
and
I've
lived
long
enough
to
see
God
not
only
now
and
elect
the
first
African-American
mayor
I've.
Seen
now,
God
elect
the
first
female
African-American
member
of
Congress
and
I
believe
the
first
African-American
lieutenant
governor
and
so
we're
at
a
place
now,
where
inclusion
and
diversity
is
should
be
part
of
our
everyday
conversation,
and
this
is
a
day
of
great,
at
least
for
me.
Hopefully
everybody
right.
R
We
are
diverse
on
Council,
we
have,
you
know
openly
the
first
openly
gay
representative.
We
have
you
know
we
have
just
you
know
we
have
now
three
soon
to
be
four.
You
know
women
on
Council,
which
is
the
most
that
we've
had
in
our
history.
R
R
And
so
we
can,
we
can
we
can
we
can
we
can
we
can
we
can
we
can
we
we
can.
We
can
lead
the
way
you
know,
and
so
I'm
I'm
excited
I'm
grateful
to
have
been
here
long
enough
to
kind
of
see
what
God
is
doing
in
this
midst
and
somehow
be
a
witness,
and
sometimes
a
cheerleader
for
this
movement
in
this
change.
F
I
don't
mean
to
prolong
the
conversation
here,
I,
but
I'm
going
to
push
back
slightly
councilman
Burgess
on
the
beginning
of
your
remarks.
That
would
lead
one
to
believe
that
State
receivership
happened
in
a
vacuum
or
that
there
was
something
nefarious
about
counsel
going
under
State
receivership,
less
than
less
than
healthy
financial
decisions
that
were
made
by
previous
councils
and
previous
administrations
led
the
city
to
the
brink
of
bankruptcy.
So
the
the
fact
that
we
went
under
a
state
receivership
it
came
from
within
not
from
without
it
was.
F
F
Our
our
municipal
pension
for
all
of
our
hard-working
men
and
women
for
decades
could
have
gone
under
State
oversight
because
of
the
inability
to
manage
our
finances
properly,
inwardly,
not
outwardly,
and
that
that's
what
ultimately
led
a
a
responsible
Council
to
understand
that
that
47
was
really
the
only
alternative
that
we
that
we
had,
and
that
happened
between
any
of
us.
It
happened
before
any
of
us.
Sat
on
on
Council,
we
councilman
Burgess
and
myself
came
in
shortly
thereafter,
but
we
had
already.
F
F
But
those
were
painful
years
that
we
we
responsibly
struggle
to
write
the
finances
of
this
city
out
of
our
duty
and
obligation
and
respect
for
our
constituency
and
the
taxpayers
that
the
epicenter
of
everything
good
that
we
can
provide
comes
from
making
certain.
We
are
fiscally
and
financially
healthy.
F
And
there
was
a
lot
of
pain
and
a
lot
of
give
and
take
and
I'm
very
happy
and
proud
to
say
that,
because
of
of
my
colleagues
and
previous
administrations
and
this
Administration,
we
are
as
healthy
as
we
have
ever
been
financially
and
we
are.
We
are
sound
and
on
Good
Financial
footing
and
in
our
best
position
to
to
truly
do
for
the
constituency
that
we
are.
F
We
are
LED
here
to
to
provide
for
so
just
wanted
to
make
that
how
to
put
that
in
there
on
the
record.
So
thank
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
Councilman
Burgess.
Q
Q
I
did
have
a
good
conversation
with
Dan
friedson
about
this.
Our
solicit
a
council
solicitor,
and
he
did
you
know,
make
some
changes
that
made
me
slightly
more
comfortable
but
I.
My
concerns
remain
I
will,
with
I,
will
hold
off
on
delving
into
detail
on
my
concerns
until
we
have
the
chance
to
hear
from
the
public,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
public.
P
G
N
Also,
a
motion
to
hold
for
an
executive
session
for
legal
analysis,
yeah.
N
H
H
So
we
need
a
motion
to
waive
the
rules
of
council
to
approve
it.
This
is
legal.
This
was
part
of
a
RFQ
that
is
attached
to
it,
and
rfqs
are
used
utilized
for
one-time
bids
one-time
purchases
between
the
amount
of
five
thousand
and
thirty
thousand.
So
this
is
appropriate.
F
N
H
F
N
H
That
is
that's
uniform.
What
is
it
called?
That's
the
pli's
fees
that
get
paid
to
the
state.
The
only
way
we
can
pay
it
is
through
using
our
credit
card.
All.
A
N
P
N
P
Mcdevitt
City
Council
budget
director,
councilman
Lavelle,
explained
it
perfectly
the
it's
a
POI
charge
that
the
only
way
that
we
can
pay
it
is
with
the
credit
card
to
the
state.
These
are
requirements
that
we
need
to
make
for
all
the
permitting
that
we
do.
So.
That's
why
it's
on
the
P
card
and
that's
why
it's
over
five
thousand
dollars.
It's
the
only
way
we
can
pay
it
foreign.
G
H
B
Bill
883
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
Public
Safety
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
Federal
Emergency
Management
Agency
for
the
purpose
of
receiving
and
spending
Grant
funds
in
the
amount
of
1
million
718
181.81,
with
the
local
match
of
171
818.19
for
the
purchase
of
self-contained
breathing
apparatus.
Motion.
F
To
approve
very
brief
discussion,
please
thank
you,
yeah
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
I
can't
explain
it
any
better
than
Madam
clerk.
Just
did.
These
are
funds
that
will
be
received
and
spent
from
FEMA.
We
do
have
a
local
match
of
172
000
give
or
take,
and
they
are
to
purchase
scubas
for
our
fire
department,
which
is
the
self-contained
breathing
apparatus.
So
I
asked
for
the
supportive
members
please
thank
you.
D
H
B
Bill
882
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Public
Works
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
Heinz
endowments
for
the
purpose
of
receiving
and
spending
Grant
funds
in
the
amount
of
two
million
dollars
to
support
the
construction
of
Homewood
field
motion
to
approve.
Thank
you
very
good.
F
H
B
Bill
888
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
Director
of
Human
Resources
and
Civil
Service
Commission
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
Willis
Towers
Watson
for
services
related
to
supporting
the
city
with
development
and
negotiations
of
employee
benefits
that
are
provided
to
city
employees
or
some
not
to
exceed
one
million.
Two
hundred
eighty
eight
thousand
dollars
over
four
years
in
the
payment
for
the
cost
thereof.
E
Q
N
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Another
District
2
Resident
at
the
table
I
have
to
mention
that
anyway,
so
I
just
I
have
some
concerns
just
about
the
whole
process,
and
I
did
mention
this
to
the
administration
that
when
they
did
the
search,
they
did
it
all
over
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
excluded
the
entire
West
End
neighborhoods.
So
all
of
District
2
was
not
included
which
you
live
in.
N
So
it
looks
to
me
as
if
you're
just
targeting
a
certain
area
in
a
certain
demographic
that
you're
trying
to
get
the
response
that
you
want.
It
doesn't
look
like
a
sincere
effort,
so
I
I
have
to
put
out
there
that
I,
you
know.
I
was
very
disappointed
that
it
did
not
occur
in
our
district
as
well
as
as
it
has
for
the
rest
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
because
I
know
my
district
Now
does
not
feel
like
they
are
a
part
of
it
and
part
of
the
search.
It's
now
it
looks.
N
N
Most
the
time
people
aren't
attending
the
meetings
they're
busy,
they
have
a
lot
going
on
their
lives,
so
I
just
want
to
say
how
disappointed
I
am
and
so
from
now
on,
I
think
I'm
going
to
put
some
legislation
in
that
whenever
we
do
any
types
of
public
public
out,
you
know
information
trying
to
gather
public
input,
I'm
going
to
put
something
that
you
have
to
consider.
You
have
to
do
them
all
in
north,
south,
east,
west
and
Central
of
the
city.
You
have
to
include
at
least
five
sectors
of
the
city.
N
S
I
think
I'm
a
bit
confused.
This
is
for
National
search
or
just
a
local
search,
These
funds.
G
This
is
for
well
local
and
National.
Okay,.
S
So
so
this
eighty
thousand
dollars
is
to
cover
whether
you
know
we
gain
resumes
throughout
the
country
or
just
locally
and
Madam
president,
you
said
your
District
was
excluded,
meaning
I
mean
how
how
was
it?
How
would
that
happen?
I
mean
I've.
N
Asked
more
than
once
to
conclude
it
I'm
sorry
I've
asked
more
than
once
to
include
it
and
I
think
in
the
mayor's
idea.
His
thoughts
were
that
we
were
included
in
the
budget
process
and
I
said,
but
several
other
areas,
including
the
budget.
There
was
no
excuse
to
me
to
exclude
an
attack.
You
can't
say
how
inclusive
you
want
to
be
and
then
exclude
an
entire
sector
of
the
city.
S
A
S
D
Correct
it
is
for
a
firm
to
work
with
our
committee
as
well
as
do
review
the
survey
and
notes
that
we
have
from
the
community
listening
sessions
to
help
us
develop
the
full
job
description
and
the
qualifications
and
qualities
that
we're
looking
for
and
Achieve
to
help
us
with
the
selection.
Sorry.
S
D
A
hearing
to
develop
the
list
for
the
Chiefs
to
help
narrow
it
down,
so
we
have
a
kind
of
an
outside
look
and.
S
S
D
S
D
What
those
are
Community
listening
sessions,
which,
unfortunately,
have
been
fairly,
have
not
gotten
any
attendance
that
we
were
hoping
even
the
one
in
Carrick
there
was
probably
about
30
people
yep
the
one
in
Zone
one.
What's
up
at.
T
D
High
thank
you
high
school
that
had
about
30
Homewood,
probably
had
the
most
with.
There
were
probably
about
40
people
there,
the
virtual
one
we
had
about
25
residents
attend
that.
However,
the
firm
is
going
to
do
additional
this
community
listing
sessions
as
well.
D
Some
of
that
was
a
bandwidth,
but
also
some
of
it
was,
as
we
saw
a
lack
of
response.
We
started
to
combine
some
meetings
together,
so.
S
N
District
yeah,
okay,
they
have
been
excluded.
It
was
not
a
meeting
there
they're
going
to
include
some
of
those
comments
in
this
search,
and
so
my
district
was
excluded
and
so
I'm
going
to
call
for
a
post
for
public
Hearing
in
District
Two,
so
that
the
public
can
have
their
chance
to
talk
publicly
about
it.
Now.
D
S
S
This
eighty
thousand
dollars
is
going
to
cover
the
search
this
I
I
to
me,
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
more
expensive
to
do
a
national
search
than
eighty
thousand
dollars.
So
this
is
a
one-time
we're
going
to
collect
the
data
that
we
need
to
make
the
right
decision.
The
mayor's
gonna
make
the
way
he
feels
the
correct
decision
for
the
next
chief
from
this
eighty
thousand
dollars
we're
not
going
to
go
spending
a
quarter
million
dollars
for
a
national
search.
This
is
all
we
will
need
for
that.
Okay,
that's!
R
R
Public
safety
director
I
I
want
to
support
the
president's
concerns
and
wonder
if,
if,
along
with
our
chair
of
Public
Safety
and
the
president
and
yourself
Council
and
I'm
I'm
willing
to
even
not
my
district
but
I'm
willing
to
come,
if
invited,
I'll
come
and
sit
with
the
president
and
listen
myself,
I
I,
don't
think
I'm
just
going
to
say
public
places
around
this
public
conversation
I,
don't
think
you'll
be
against
joining
us
and
the
president
will
host
a
a
cable
cast,
maybe
even
a
town
hall
meeting
which
would.
B
R
Be
my
suggestion
so
that
it's
not
so,
you
can
blend
a
conversation
rather,
but
just
your
choice
if
you
want
to
do
public
hearing
whatever
you
want
to
have
and
I'll
come
too
that
we
do
together
that
we
bring
Public
Safety
and
we
can
do
keep
all
the
surveys
and
still
have
it
in
her
District
where
everyone
feels
included.
I
know
the
answer
is
right,
but
that's
going
to
be
my
my
my
sort
of
Solomon
approach
to
this
conversation.
H
V
S
Aye
Mr,
chair,
I'm,
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing,
so
you
said
they
weren't
well
attended
and
I
understand
your
concerns.
Madam
president,
are
they
worth
having
I
mean?
Were
they
influential
for
the
for
the
mayor?
Did
he
get
good
information
feedback
from
the
community?
Was
it
yeah.
D
I
think
we
did
get
good
information
and
feedback
and
I
think
we
can
do
the
same
thing.
There's
no
reason
we
couldn't
do
the
same
thing
in
in
the
district
that
once.
D
N
You
know
you
know
for
you
to
have
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
in
the
position
you're
in
now
Paula,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
was
really
disappointed,
that
this
was
there
shall
never
be
a
time
that
you
exclude
I,
don't
care
what
you're
doing
sector
an
entire
sector
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
and
and
I
know
that
there's
sometimes
you
know,
I
worked
for
the
school
district.
N
N
That
meeting,
because
you
know
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
I,
have
to
say
we
have
probably
one
of
the
highest
number
of
police
officers
living
in
my
district
and
so
I'm
starting
to
wonder
if
that's
why
it
was
exploded,
so
it
doesn't
I'm
gonna
make
sure
that
everyone's
voices
are
heard.
N
H
G
A
This
updating
is
this:
the
typical
funding
for
this
program,
or
is
this
additional
new
type
of
funding
for
the
separate
part
of
the
program.
A
I
was
just
wondering
if
this
is
it
says,
to
implement
the
2022
program.
So
I
didn't
know
if
this
was
just
continuation
on
what
we
typically
do
or
is
there
something
new,
but
it's.
V
V
Okay,
but
yeah
we've
been
doing
this
since
1980s
yeah.
A
B
Bill
891
resolution
providing
the
authorization
to
make
our
legitimate
expenditures
for
payments
and
agreements
with
various
agencies
to
provide
job
development
and
employment
services,
wages,
infringe
benefits
for
supervisors
staff
workers,
compensation,
unemployment,
compensation,
vocational
skills,
training
and
on-the-job
training,
Outreach
recruitment
costs
and
administrative
expenditures
necessary
to
implement
the
2022
Pittsburgh
partnership,
Employment
Program
and
providing
the
periodic
transfer
of
funds
to
be
used
in
a
2022
Pittsburgh
partnership.
Employment
Program,
cosmology,
235
thousand
dollars
motion.
B
A
I
just
wanted
to
know
we
had
a
post
agenda
the
other
day
and
talked
about
the
the
effort
that
the
the
Outreach,
the
gbi
Outreach
team,
does
and
really
the
public
safety
initiative
ongoing
initiative
to
increase
the
that
presence,
and
it
was
mentioned
that
they
utilized
an
app
a
communication,
a
way
that
the
Outreach
workers
communicate,
there's
jobs
that
are
uploaded
to
the
for
the
platform
and
then
that's
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I.
A
Guess
then
there's
another
process
where
the
they're
they're
trying
to
get
people
jobs
is
this.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
connect
this
with
that.
V
That's
okay
for
the
Pittsburgh
partnership.
We
work
with
state-funded
money,
so
it
has
to
be
earmarked
for,
like
we
work
with
the
neighborhood
employment
centers.
We
also
work
with
the
Department
of
Human
Services
for
like
welfare
to
work
type
program,
so
that
money
has
to
be
spent
that
way.
Yeah.
A
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering:
do
you
have
a
connection
with
operation
Better
Block
to
because
that's
where
the
that's,
where
they're
uploading
the
jobs
to
the
app
through
that
organization?
Do
you
have
a
connection
with
operation
better
block,
or
can
we
make
that
connection
so
that
whatever
is
available
that
they
can
also
see
on
their
end.
V
We
don't
have
a
connection
with
them.
I'm
not
I
would
have
to
look
more
into
that
to
see
if
we,
if
that
was
something
we
can
do,
but
I
can
definitely
look
into
it
and.
A
V
And
mainly,
it
pays
for
salaries
too,
because
the
Pittsburgh
partnership
staff
is
funded
through
the
Department
of
Human
Services
and
when
we
bill
for
salaries
that
has
to
be
specifically
for
the
earned
program.
So
the
nec's
is
actually
money
given
to
us
to
help
operate
this,
that
for
the
staff
to
actually
operate
those
programs.
So
it's
not
it's
kind
of
used
more
for
salaries
and
to
contract
out
some
services.
A
A
V
Can
even
set
up
a
meeting
where
you
we
could
maybe
I
could
even
come
to
your
office
or
you
know
we
can
talk
or.
A
N
N
That's
that's
also
connected
with
you
know
to
this,
or
with
you
yes
right,
and
so
it
seems
like
it
takes
a
long
time
when
they
people
get
their
their
payments
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
speed
up
that
process.
That's
all
I
want
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
your
attention,
but
but
I
do
appreciate
that
you've
got
one
up
and
running
in
Sheridan
for
us
and
and
the
work
that
you
do
across
the
district
for
me.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
H
R
N
H
B
Bill
892.
resolution
amending
resolution,
526
of
2022
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
Department
of
innovation
and
performance
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
agreements
or
amendments
for
the
computronix
USA
Inc
to
extend
the
term
on
a
month-to-month
basis
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
140
000..
A
A
second
discussion
question
councilman
Wilson,
yeah
I
was
wondering
if
this
is
a
typical
evaluation,
that's
being
done
like
a
year
later,
annual
or
maybe
biannual
or
is
there
something
that
is
there
something
that
triggered
this
recently.
X
Looks
like
my
light
behind
me.
I
was
blocking
my
face,
but
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
this
is
to
replace
an
application
that
has
been
managed
by
the
B3
consulting
company.
That
is
a
legacy
application
that
runs
off
of
the
payroll
system
to
calculate
the
correct
contributions
to
our
municipal
pension.
This
new
software
system
went
out
to
RFP
and
Foster
and
Foster
Consulting
actuaries
were
the
winners
of
the
RFP,
so
this
is
this.
Is
the
authorization
to
enter
into
that
agreement
with
them
foreign.
T
Was
as
to
the
term,
it
will
be
a
multi-year
agreement,
we're
assuming
that,
once
it
will
take
about
nine
months
to
complete
the
implementation,
testing
and
go
live,
and
thereafter
we
would
process
our
pension
contribution
and
all
of
the
pension
information.
That's
currently
in
the
the
cus,
the
custom
application
to
a
commercial
off-the-shelf
application
that
would
be
available
online
or
in
person
to
all
of
our
staff
and
pensioners.
Over
the
several
next
several
years,
we
will
be
requesting
additional
funding
to
support
the
ongoing
costs.
Thereafter,
all.
T
I'm
sorry,
I'm,
Gwendolyn,
Moore
assistant,
director
of
business
technology,
with
the
Department
of
innovation
and
performance
and
I
do
manage
the
applications
team
and
this
particular
this
particular
application,
is
supported
by
us
through
our
independent
contractor
B3
and,
as
I
said
we
are,
we
are
hoping
with
your
approval,
to
move
this
to
a
commercial
off-the-shelf
system
to
be
managed
by
Foster
and
Foster,
who
also
are
currently
the
actuaries
for
the
pension.
The
municipal
pension
office.
B
Bill
894
resolution
amending
resolution,
817
of
2021
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
innovation
and
performance
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
agreements
or
amendments
thereto
with
the
change
engine,
training
for
access
to
the
learning
management
system
and
consultative
assistance
to
adapt.
The
city
of
Pittsburgh
gold
belt
workshop
for
e-learning
by
increasing
the
not
to
exceed
amount
by
thirty
six
thousand
dollars.
D
H
Aye
any
opposed
affirms
of
recommendation
that
does
exhaust
our
list.
Our
meeting
agenda
for
today
we
do
have
meeting
announcements
this
afternoon
at
1,
30.
Council
will
hold
a
cable
cast
public
hearing
and
on
Bill
747
and
754
as
they
relate
to
the
CMU
institutional
master
plan.
Speaker
registration
closes
at
12
o'clock
today
next
week.
Council
will
hold
our
regular.
No
excuse
me.
H
Council's
regular
meeting
of
council
is
on
Monday
November
14th
at
10
A.M
commencing
with
the
mayor,
Ed
gainey's
2023
budget
address,
Council
standing
committees
meeting
will
be
Tuesday
November
15th
at
10,
A.M
speaker
registration,
closed
at
9,
A.M
Monday
for
the
regular
meeting
at
9,
A.M
Tuesday
for
the
standing
committee's
meeting
to
register
fill
out
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
webpage
by
the
deadlines.
You
may
also
call
the
city
perks
office
at
412-255-2138.
Also
next
Tuesday
November
15th
at
1
30
PM.