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A
A
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
joining
us.
I
think
we're
everyone
here
knows
you
and
has
worked
with
you
in
the
past
and
we're
excited
to
welcome
you
back
to
the
city
council
table.
Could
you
give
a
little
synopsis
about
yourself?
You
want
to
say
just
your
name
for
and
and
what
you
think
hope
to
bring
to
the
position
or
anything.
You
want
to
share
publicly
just
a
few
comments
and
then
council
members
will
do
the
interview
okay,
relax,
because
we're
we're
good.
C
D
A
I'm
just
gonna
begin
by
saying
we
all
many
of
us
have
worked
with
you
and
have
a
really
great
relationship
with
you
excited
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
think
you're
going
to
bring
to
the
table
and
how
we
can
work
with
you
to
make
pittsburgh
planning
city
planning
department,
a
great
department,
and
so
I
I've
had
some
brief
conversations.
I
know
others
have
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
and
see.
If
there's
some
things
you
feel
comfortable
sharing.
Oh.
D
D
I
was
born
in
the
bronx
new
york,
but
you
know
I
moaned
up
and
raised
in
harlem
new
york
for
most
of
my
life
and
ended
up
here
about
four
years
later.
So
I'm
just
briefly
just
my
experience
in
pittsburgh,
I
began
here.
I
went
to
grad
school
here
at
the
brock
university
up
north.
I
got
my
master's
degree
in
sustainable
systems.
D
I
then
took
an
internship
at
alien
county
economic
development
for
a
year
and
while
I
was
doing
my
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
for
the
school
ended
up
at
the
urban
redevelopment
authority
after
that,
working
primarily
in
african-american
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city,
around
various
land
use
projects,
some
planning
with
the
help
of
department,
city
planning
and
just
did
really
incredible.
Engagement.
Work
took
a
year
off
from
that
and
had
a
low
fellowship
at
the
harvard
schedule
school
of
design,
where
I
worked
primarily
with
urban
design,
students,
professors
and
faculty.
D
That's
that
globe
fellowship
year
to
join
the
heinz
endowments
as
the
equitable
development
program
officer
where
I
was
working
for
about
four
years,
and
so
I
can
I
mean
I
can
add
you
know
just
the
things
that
you
know
I've
been
thinking
about
for
city
planning
and
the
future
of
city
planning.
I
deeply
believe
in
the
work
around
equity.
D
I
also
believe
that
we
have
some
challenges
with
climate
change
which
have
real
impacts
on
our
most
vulnerable
neighborhoods,
and
these
are,
you
know,
marginalized
communities.
Historically,
these
are
working-class
families
and
really
addressing
the
transition
from
you
know
what
we,
what
we
call
extractive
economies,
which
you
know,
cause
air
pollution,
other
other
problems,
public
health
issues
and
really
looking
at
transitioning
to
a
more
regenerative
economy
which
we
use
our
natural
resources
that
are
regen
that
are
renewable
and
that's
happening
in
the
department.
D
These
communities
have
been
marginalized
for
a
very
long
time,
oftentimes
with
intention
and
so
really
looking
at
the
tools
that
we
can
use
at
city
planning,
along
with
our
partners
in
other
departments,
as
well
as
city
council,
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
resources
that
you
know
they
need
to
have
their
voices
heard
as
well
as
to
really
understand
their
unique
skills
and
abilities
and
talents
that
they
can
bring
to
the
city.
We
want
everybody
to
prosper
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
actually
dig
in
and
make
a
real
foundation
for
people.
A
Thank
you
and
I'm
going
to
begin
with
councilman
krauss,
our
previous
president
for
six
years
and
a
big
fan
of
yours,
but
I
will
also
say
I
also
sat
with
you
next
in
in
the
lien
bank
meetings
and
I
loved
how
you
you
were
such
a
champion
for
the
community.
So
I
was,
I
was
honored
to
participate
with
you
yeah
thanks.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
Welcome
so
we
got
to
talk
a
little
bit
last
week,
not
long
enough,
but
a
little
bit
to
try
to
to
catch
up,
and
I
was
trying
to
remember
how
you
and
I
met-
and
I
can't
for
the
life
of
me
remember
how
that
came
to
be.
But
I
always
remember
the
relationship
as
being
very
positive,
very
positive,
and
we
seem
to
you
know
view
the
world
through
a
very
similar
lens.
F
E
C
That
you
know
cara
was
very
instrumental
in
assisting
in
the
formation
of
the
idea
of
redeveloping
belcher
for
school,
though
she
didn't
play
a
direct
world,
but
we
we
were
struggling.
We
had
such
such
good
energy
in
bell
silver
and
so
many
people
that
were
active
and
engaged,
but
somehow
not
quite
focused
on
sort
of
like
you
know.
C
What's
known
as
about
super
consensus
group,
where
everybody
realized
just
how
important
it
is
to
row
the
boat
together
right
and
to
sort
of
all
focus
on
sort
of
a
you
know,
a
common
idea,
if
you
will
and
through
that
and
some
other
processes,
the
idea
of
the
school
being
up
for
sale
and
our
ability
to
actually
secure
it
by
the
community.
The
community
actually
purchased
the
school
and
started
the
journey
very
scary
journey,
very,
very
scary.
C
C
We
just
we
started
to
sort
of
chug
along
so
out
of
that
we
have
been
able
to
hire
a
contractor,
and
out
of
that,
we
went
to
the
zoning
board
for
our
first
zoning
approvals
on
thursday
morning
and
tomorrow,
at
4
o'clock.
We
present
in
the
mayor's
office
the
scope
of
the
work
and
where
we
are,
what
we've
done,
what
our
vision
is
and
how
to
get
into
this.
C
Current
stream
of
funding,
which
will
I
think,
applications
are
made
june
for
the
the
round
of
senior
tax
credit
funding,
and
so
we're
like
we're
well
on
our
way.
But
I
say
all
that
to
say
it
was
just
really
just
a
friendship
and
sort
of
casual
conversation
of
how
to
kind
of
do
things
that
that
happened.
And
you
know
here
we
are
today.
So
I
think
I
just
you
know.
C
I'm
just
really
just
excited
that
you're
coming
to
this
city
in
really
any
capacity,
but
the
idea
that
you're
coming
into
the
department
of
planning
that
really
intrigues
me
that
really
really
intrigues
me,
because
part
of
my
frustration,
working
in
municipal
government
is
a
lack
of
focus
on
planning
for
success.
We
tend
to
police
failure
and
not
plan
for
success
right
and
that's,
there's,
there's
a
whole
different
dynamic
to
planning
for
success,
and
I
think
you,
I
think,
you're
you're
spot
on
in
in
your
ability
to
do
that.
C
So
let
me
talk
just
very
briefly
about
the
reality
of
the
situation
that
we're
in
right.
Now
we,
we
are
financially
stable,
secure
for
this
moment
in
time
the
arpa
monies
will
expire
by
the
end
of
2023,
we're
not
100
sure
where
we
might
be
in
our
finances.
We
don't
know
where
the
pandemic
may
be,
taking
us
or
not
taking
us,
god
forbid,
and
what
our
finances
might
ultimately
look
like
at
the
end
of
23.
we're
you
know.
C
So
I
was
just
curious.
What
your
thoughts
were.
I
mean
resource
is
so
incredibly
important
to
do
the
work
that
we
want
to
do,
and
I
just
was
sort
of
wondering
kind
of
what
your
thoughts
around
the
the
future
and
our
you
know
our
vision
versus
our
ability
to
to
be
able
to
provide
the
resource
to
accomplish
those
goals.
We
said
first.
D
D
I
do
hope
that
you
know
this
pandemic
is
it's.
It's
been
scary,
for
so
many
reasons,
not
obviously
because
of
all
the
loss
of
life
and
long-term
illness,
but
obviously
because
there's
uncertainty
about
when
it's
going
to
end,
and
so
that
needs
to
be
part
of
our
our
planning
processes
right.
How
do
we
actually
prepare
for
these
for
these
instances
because
they
will
come,
but
we
don't
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
dream
big
about
what
we
want
to
see
our
community
to
be
our
city,
to
be
our
neighborhoods.
D
To
be
our
blocks
to
be-
and
there
are
so
many
people
who
are
rooting
for
the
success
of
this
city
who
want
to
stay
in
the
city
and
they
need
to
be
a
part
of
that
vision,
setting.
We
need
to
understand
what
their
needs
are
and
we
need
to
understand
how
to
accommodate
them,
because
they
are
much
of
the
success
of
the
city
as
as
anybody
else
is,
but
never
really
had
a
chance
to
participate.
D
That
means
a
lot
to
people
and
when
they
rally
behind
people
who
believe
in
them
all
wonderful
things
can
happen
and
that's
really
the
root
of
equity.
You
know
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we
do
the
best
that
we
can
with
what
we
have
it's
a
very
practical
answer
to
your
question
as
well,
which
you
know
it
goes
back
to
some
extent
to
the
conversation
about
sustainability
and
about
understanding
how
much
resources
we
have
and
what
we
can
do
and
how
to
prioritize
those
things.
D
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
prioritized
in
what
we've
always
prioritized,
but
maybe
something
very
different
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
you
know
doesn't
necessarily
come
up.
The
same
as
that's
what
you
really
want,
innovation
is
extremely
important
in
this
time.
Trying
new
things
out
is
extremely
important
in
this
time
and
while
you
said
about
the
school,
it's
very
scary
to
have
done
it,
but
look
at
where
the
school
is
now
and
so
that
same
approach
is
kind
of
how
you
know.
I
see
the
work
that
I
do.
D
D
There
are
communities
and
traumas,
for
so
many
reasons
and
acknowledging
that
is
very
important
to
how
we
move
on,
because
if
we
don't
understand
the
trauma,
we
can't
move
on
from
it
and
that's
the
success
in
that
right
and
they're
small
steps
incremental
steps,
they're
big
steps
that
we
can
definitely
take
one
of
the
department's
divisions.
I'm
sorry
within
the
department
city
planning
is
sustainability
and
resilience
and
they're
they
are
like
almost
you
know:
they're
they're,
they're
tasked
with
making
our
fleet
sustainable
and
our
building
sustainable.
D
Our
fleet
are
turned
to
electric,
but
the
things
that
they're
thinking
about
in
a
very
innovative
way
are
truly
remarkable.
How
we,
how
we
are
sustainable,
how
we
do
look
at
resource
allocation-
and
you
know
obviously
just
coming
here
in
the
last
three
weeks,
looking
at
what
they're
doing,
how
do
they?
How
do
we
use
that
sort
of
approach
throughout
the
city
planning
department
and
quite
possibly
throughout
city
government,
wanting
to
them
to
really
kind
of
think
about
how
they
communicate
and
connect
their
ideas
to
community
in
innovative
ways?
D
I'm
I'm!
You
know,
I
think
you
know
we're
looking
at
some
serious
times
around
budget
and
the
work
that
we
have
to
do
ahead
of
us
and
we're
really
thinking
about
how
we
survive
with
what
we
have.
But
it's
been
done
before,
and
I'm
a
student
of
history
and
we've
gotten
out
of
out
of
tough
places
before
and
we'll
do
it
again.
C
I'm
trying
to
be
very
kind
and
polite
there
are
there
are.
There
are
genuine
concerns
among
the
members
that
represent
southwest
pittsburgh,
that
the
the
investment
has
not
always
been
a
priority.
You
know
you,
you
go,
you
go
north
and
east
of
the
city.
It's
you
know,
business
will
follow
rooftops,
that's
the
tradition
correct!
So
you
go
northwest
of
the
city.
You'll,
see
stadiums,
you'll,
see
casinos.
C
C
You
go
southwest
of
the
river,
you
pretty
much
have
some
riverfront
development
in
terms
of
south
shore
that
came
in
under
the
murphy
administration
and
southside
works,
which
came
in
also
into
the
murphy
administration
but
then
head
out
and
tell
me
what
other
kinds
of
real
investments
you've
seen
southwest
river.
We
end
up
with
century
three
mall
pretty
much
at
the
end
of
that
rainbow
right,
and
so
I
think,
there's
there's
physical
evidence
to
show
that
there
has
not
necessarily
been
you
know,
a
a
focus
on
that.
You
know
east
of
the
city.
C
We
all
know
the
story
of
you
know
what
happened
to
news,
liberty
and
and
all
those
kinds
of
things,
and
even
some
desire
to
see
future
expansion
into
wilkinsburg
and
places
like
that,
and
you
know
so.
I
just
I
just
sort
of
put
that
out
there
that
I
think
there's
there's
more
than
an
emotional
request.
C
I
think
there's
physical
evidence
to
say.
Perhaps
you
know
we
could
do
a
little
bit
better
and
then
lastly,
a
downtown
and
and
and
how
how
how
how
how
we
have
been
so
very
lucky
here
for
generations
to
have
a
healthy
downtown
that
that,
even
through
a
lots
and
lots
of
difficult
times
has
survived
and
really
lived
to
be
the
core
of
the
city.
C
This
is
the
first
time
in
my
life
that
I'm
genuinely
concerned
about
how
we
are
going
to
repopulate
downtown
and
not
just
for
the
for
the
the
people
and
and
the
fact
that
we
need
one
another
and
we
need
to
gather
and
socialize
and
all
those
kinds
of
things,
but
real
estate,
property
tax
and
brick
and
mortar.
And
if
companies
decide
that
those
are
no
longer
viable
options
and
people
should
be
connected
to
phones
at
homes
and
what
happens
to
property
tax.
And
if
property
tax
goes
by
the
way.
D
That's,
I
think,
I'm
looking
at
both
of
your
statements
and
questions
and
they're
actually
kind
of
related,
and
you
know
I
live.
I
used
to
live
in
east
allegheny
and
I
would
walk
to
work
and
I
would
spend
a
lot
of
time
downtown
outside
of
just
working
downtown,
and
so
that
was
an
important.
This
important
area
and
I'm
down
here
now
almost
every
day,
and
I
see
what
you're
seeing
but
noticing
that
through
the
pandemic,
people
obviously
stayed
home,
but
their
neighborhoods
became
really
big
hubs
of
of
of
economic
interest.
D
D
But
there
are
opportunities
in
that
in
the
neighborhoods,
and
so
this
is
not
to
say
that
that
solves
that
solved
the
neighborhood
problem,
because
we
solve
a
downtown
problem
and
there
are
a
number
of
us
in
the
city
planning
department
that
are
thinking
about
this.
Usually
planning
is
thinking
about
this.
D
We
also
have
you
know
our
public
art
and
civic
design
communities.
Thinking
about
this
in
very
serious
ways
because
of
the
cultural
district,
and
so
I
know
that
at
the
heinz
and
diamonds
has
been
something
of
a
a
concern
as
well
in
all
the
foundations,
and
so
I
think
it's
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
us
thinking
about
this
allegheny
conference.
You
know
they
are
thinking
about
it,
obviously
as
well,
and
so
I
have
been
thinking
about
this.
D
It's
obviously
part
of
of
my
responsibility
as
the
playing
director
and
the
staff
at
the
at
the
department
of
city
planning
to
be
thinking
about
these
things,
and
these
are
just
observations
that
I've
made
in
the
past,
what
six
months,
but
really
starting
to
dig
into
that
kind
of
work
and
which
is
which
is
also
why
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know
I
think,
forging
pgh.
D
You
know,
I
think
it
kind
of
started
back
up
at
a
really
good
time
in
the
middle,
depending
because
that's
we
get
to
plan
how
to
respond
to
these
things
and
we're
not
the
only
city.
As
you
know,
that's
dealing
with
this,
and
so
you
know,
we
need
to
be
aware
of
what
other
cities
are
also
doing
to
address
this,
and
I'm
very
well
aware
of
it.
It's
a
huge
concern
of
obviously
the
administration
as
well,
as
you
know,
several
of
our
departments
and
in
our
authorities
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
raising
that.
D
It
has
been
part
of
the
conversation
with
regard
to
this.
I
mean
I'm
hoping
I
hope
I
gave
you
an
answer
that
I
mean.
I
don't
know
that
there
isn't.
I
don't
know,
but
but
it's
a
con
I
mean
it
is
something
that
I
think
about.
Whenever
I
walk
out
to
try
to
buy
a
right,
like
you
see,
places
that
you
know
you
relied
on
and
they're
not
there
and
it's
it's
and
then
the
ripple
effect
of
that
on
so
many
people.
D
D
We
have
to
use
the
the
you
know
our
support
our
businesses,
who
and
and
get
make
sure
that
they
get
out
and
support
it.
Our
independent
businesses
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
so
something
to
definitely
think
about,
and
thank
you
for
raising
this
in
this
forum,
because
I
think
it's
very
important.
D
Obviously,
so
there
are
partnerships
that
I
mean
to
explore
that
you
know
part
of
the
county
since
part
of
that
part
of
that
district.
Those
districts
touched
the
county
and
part
of
the
city.
I
know,
there's
a
there
was
a
master
of
this
theory
more.
The
southwest
pa
did
they
they're,
not
yeah.
So
I
know
there
is
a.
There
is
an
organization
that
kind
of
works
with
both
the
county
and
the
city.
D
C
If
you
were
able
to
inventory
your
population
in
terms
of
all
the
different
demographics
and
and
and
set
wages
to
the
different
demographics
and
then
the
housing
stock
that
you
had
and
marry
your
your
financial
ability
to
to
purchase
housing
stock,
what
would
it
look
like
if
you
were
able
to
compare
those
two
columns?
This
is
this:
is
the
population.
This
is
the
housing
stock.
This
is
where
we
have
an
overabundance.
C
This
is
where
we
have
a
deficit,
and
how
do
we
then
try
to
equalize
that
so
that
private
partner,
not
just
public
but
private
and
public
partnerships,
are
able
to
fill
in
those
gaps
of
where
we
are
deficit
in
providing
housing
stock
to
meet
specific
income
levels?
How
do
we,
you
know
you
you
have
you
know
you
have
the
knowledge
to
do
these
kinds
of
things,
but
how
do
we
get
to
a
point
to
where
we
can
understand
that
there
there
is
a
market
there?
D
I
I
would
agree
that
we
I
mean
housing
is
such
a
challenging
but
important
like
essential
part
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
it's
something
that
that,
obviously
we
just
we're
just
finishing
up.
Our
housing
needs
assessment
report
at
the
city
plan
department
that
christopher
christopher
corbett
pulled
together
with
a
team
of
people,
including
probably
residents
and
some
of
you
here,
but
the
housing
so
I'll
just
say
this.
Affordable
housing
is
housing
that
we
can
all
afford
right.
So
I
think
that
we
have
to
everybody.
D
I
do
believe
that
and
then
obviously
paying
for
it
as
well.
There
are
very
there
are
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
approach
this,
and
I
would
love
to
hear
more
about
what
councilmember
just
is
suggesting,
because
we
need
all
the
help
we
can
get
around
it.
But
I
do
want
to
just
be
clear
that
my
opinion
about
this
is
that
it's
not
a
silo
conversation
and
I
and
I,
and
I
think
that
we're
all
responsible
and
all
sectors
are
responsible
for
talking
about
housing
and
financing.
D
D
Do
but,
but
I
mean
well,
I
mean
I
think,
that
it's
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
conversation
that
we
all
need
to
have,
but
from
a
planning
con
from
a
planning
perspective,
I
should
say
we
can
do.
We
can
pull
the
data
around
where
things
are
where
housing
needs
are,
but
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
jobs
as
well
and
talking
about
environmental
issues
as
well.
I
mean
housing
is
one
thing,
but
making
sure
that
people
are
made
whole
when
that
housing
is
created.
C
No,
you
didn't,
because
the
these
it's
difficult
to
have
these
conversations
in
15
minutes
and
try
to
you
know
come
up
with.
I
know
you
know,
but
I
will.
I
will
conclude
my
remarks
with
this.
You
talk
about
sort
of
people
being
able
to
stay
in
place.
One
of
the
the
goals
that
we
set
for
the
bells
hoover
school
came
out
of
the
fact
that
when
south
high
was
re-uh,
redone
and
south
highs,
it's
just
magnificent.
C
Is
we're
calling
it
age
and
place
housing
so
that
you
can
stay
where
you've
been
your
entire
life?
And
just
so,
you
downsize
it's
all
right,
but
you
can
stay
there
and
have
all
the
familiarities
that
you've
had
for
your
entire
life
for
generations
still
there
to
access
and
still
be
able
to
afford
to
stay
there.
E
A
You
councilman
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
way
that
we
came
in
and
it
was
he
was
in.
Second,
I
believe
correct,
yes,
councilman
coghill.
So
let
me
just
also
say
we're
joined
by
councilman
coghill,
councilwoman
gross
and
councilman
wilson
and
councilman
coghill.
Then
councilman,
wilson,
councilman,
okay,.
E
E
E
I
I
know
just
listening
to
you
and
councilman
krause
go
back
and
forth.
You
know
you
have
many
different
aspects
of
your
job,
but
but
I
I
really
like
you
as
a
person,
I
I
thank
you
for
the
visit.
You
know
I
read
your
book,
not
all
of
it.
Some
of
it.
You
know
parts
pertaining
to
to
beach
view,
and
you
know,
after
our
conversation
and
I
I
will
tell
you,
I
was
not
one
that
supported
you
know
having
to
interview
everybody
the
mayor
appoints.
E
However,
I
you
know
I
I'm
I
tend
to
enjoy
it
now,
just
because
you
wouldn't
have
been
in
my
office
yesterday.
Probably
if
I
didn't,
if
we
weren't
having
this
meeting
today,
eventually
you
would
have
I'm
sure
absolutely
so.
So
it's
just
a
good
way
to
get
to
know.
You
know
the
the
people
who
we
we
will
be
working
with
on
a
daily
basis,
and
you
know
we've
talked
about
the
art,
commission
and
the
art
commission.
I
know
you
just
staff
them.
E
You
don't
make
the
decisions
there
but
like
to
see
a
little
bit
of
that
change
in
a
way
of
I
don't
want
them.
Holding
up
a
war
memorial,
for
instance,
you
know,
I
think
they
probably
have
more
important
things
to
do,
but
I
will
tell
you
what
I
can't
talk
from
yesterday.
More
anything
karen
was
you
know
and
talking
to
you
I
always
considered
what
planning
did
was
brick
and
mortar.
E
You
know
oakland
project
terminal
down
the
strip
district
things
of
that
nature
and
what
that
means
to
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
in
that
aspect,
but
and
talking
to
you
and
reading
your
forethought
here
and
you
know,
learning
a
little
more
about
you.
I
think
you
can
be
really
useful
in
a
couple
of
my
neighborhoods
beach
view
for
one,
and
we
talked
about
the
diverse
population
that
I
have
there
in
integrating,
and
I
know
you
did
work
with
the
heinz
endowment.
E
I
wouldn't
say
as
much
as
the
other
parts
of
town,
but
but
but
really
what
I
took
from
our
meeting
is
that
you
can
help
me.
Planning
is
not
just
all
brick
and
mortar
planning
can
be
kind
of
integrating
these
two
communities,
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
remarks
and
and
the
differences
between
the
people
like
me,
who've
lived
their
other
life
and
the
latino
community
that
moved
in,
but
yeah
there
were
some
kind
of
eye-raising
things
there
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
changed.
E
I
do
and
that's
what
we
were
discussing
you
know
before
before
we
sat
down
here
so
so
I
look
forward
to
tapping
into
your
resources
like
that,
and
I
think
that's
I
think,
your
heart
as
much
into
that
as
it
is
planning
a
development
process
and
what
it
might
mean
to
a
certain
neighborhood.
So
so
you
have
any
comments
on
that.
You
know
before
I
ask
you
the
other
thing.
D
Sure,
and
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
for
reading
the
book.
It
was
a
really
one
pleasure
to
do
and
we
can
update
the
book,
obviously
with
the
what
has
actually
changed.
Yes
I'll
definitely
talk
to
the
professor
who
actually
put
it
together,
so
the
art
commission
that
has
been
a
topic
accommodation
from
two
council
people.
So
far,
so
I
mean-
and
actually
it's
been
a
conversation
that
our
staff
at
the
public,
art
and
civic
design
has
been.
D
Having
has
come
up
in
several
conversations
at
the
mayor's
office,
even
and
so
we're
talking
about
you
know
how
do
we
ensure
that
the
code
around
the
our
commission
is
clear
and
that
we
are
doing
more
outreach
to
council
members
about
how
we
can
work
more
closely
about
where
we
can
agree
upon
language?
That
would
be
sufficient
for
our
processes
that
we
have
and
the
projects
that
you're
doing
the
public,
art
and
civic
design
staff.
D
They
are
art
they
archive,
like
140
pieces
of
art
that
the
city
owns
and,
as
you
said,
they
staff
there
are
commissions.
So
they
have
a
lot
of
experience
around
these
issues
and
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
meet
with
you
and
others.
We
also
have
processes
in
the
departmentality
that
we
need
to
address
as
well.
D
E
E
E
What
we
think
whatever
so
so
that
that's
great
you
know
I
wholeheartedly
support
you.
The
other
thing
was,
of
course,
and
councilwoman
gross
knows
very
well
about
our
forum,
yes,
which
I
think
you
can
play
an
integral
part
in
this.
This
is
planning
in
a
way.
I
think
that
I
don't
think
major
cities
have
planned
for
something
like
this
and
we
hope
to
bring
it
to
fruition,
and
you'll
certainly
have
to
be
a
part
of
that,
because
there's
an
education
piece
as
well
as
a
food
policy
piece
in
it.
E
E
A
G
D
So
our
neighborhood
planner
for
the
north
side
is
sj.
Stephanie,
joy,
everett
and
she's
been
working
in
manchester
and
she's
been
working
and
manchester
doesn't
have
that
many
vacancies,
but
they
have
vacant
lots
there
and
I
think
the
mcc
has
been
doing
a
good
job
of
using
some
of
the
you
know
financial
tools
to
build
some
housing
there
as
well
working
on
the
plan
in
wow.
That
neighborhood
is
slowly
skipping
me
right
now,
but
the
the
the
65
or
65
divides.
G
G
G
D
D
D
I'm
here
there
are
some
barriers
to
the
riverfront,
which
I
know
that
the
plan
addresses,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
brit,
the
16th
street
bridge
cuts
through
some
of
that
work
and
looking
at
the
community,
the
communities
that
touch
that
those
areas
so
back
to
understanding
how
to
do
more.
Like
regional
work
with
the
communities,
there
would
be
an
important
aspect
of
planning
for
that
particular
place.
D
G
In
a
previous
budget,
we
budgeted
80
000
that
wasn't
enough,
and
so
then
we
added
70
000
more
with
this
neighborhood
plan.
I
don't
want
to
know
you
know
what
value
you
see
in
the
neighborhood
plans
and
you
know
how
they'll
be
implemented,
what
you
see
for
implementation,
so
it
just
doesn't
like
sit
on
a
shelf
for
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
eternity.
No.
D
That,
yes,
that's
a
very
good
point.
I
think
that's
something
that
people
are
very
nervous
about.
We
adopt
plans-
I
think
that's
that's
happened
very
recently.
Having
to
adopt
plans
really
does
kick
into
an
effect
that
is
issue.
They
should
be
implemented
as
well.
The
staff
at
the
department
of
planning
have
been
working
with
community
groups
to
look
at
implementation.
That
is
a
recent
development.
D
It
didn't
exist
nonetheless
redevelopment
authority,
but
I
think
there's
been
resources
put
into
how
to
implement
the
plan.
Obviously
there
are
so
many
pieces
of
it.
I
know
I
was
on
the
health
district,
the
hill
district
plan
meeting,
and
there
were
people
from
domi
on
the
call.
There
were
people
from
all
different
departments
on
the
call
and
so
ensuring
that
this
interdepartmental
approach
to
it,
the
rba
development
authority,
housing
authority.
D
So
I
think
the
implementation
plans
are
key
to
the
planning
process,
so
that
there's
there
that
we
understand
that
there's
funding
that's
set
aside
to
implement
them.
I
think
that
has
been
an
inequity
honestly
with
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
that
there's
a
planning
planning
planning
and
those
plans
really
get
implemented
and
recognizing
the
need
for
implementation.
The
city
plan
department
has
made
sure
that
communities
have
implementation
plans
with
them.
G
Yeah,
it's
interesting
to
see
it
play
out
with
the
oakland
development
where
they're
there,
and
you
know,
I
think,
going
to
wrap
up
their
planning
process
here,
the
neighborhood
plan
and
how
much
of
the
the
investment
that
walnut
capital
wants
to
make
it's
on
those
points,
and
just
it's
kind
of
bringing
it
and
it's
kind
of
putting
the
issue
right
on
the
table
to
see
how
we'll
you
know,
you
know,
implement
these
plans
that
they
that
we've
evolved,
the
neighborhood
and-
and
so
it's
just
so.
I
was
just
curious
on
that.
So
thanks.
D
I
mean,
I
think,
that
I
think
a
lot
of
departments,
including
ours,
goes
through
constant
restructuring,
so
it
would
be
natural
that
we
would.
Yes
absolutely
I
mean
we're
thinking
about
it
in
terms
of
the
forging
pgh
plan,
the
comprehensive
plan
we're
thinking
about
it
in
light
of
covet
19
and
what's
needed,
as
far
as
additional
staff
to
address
a
lot
of
issues
that
that
we've
seen
the
iniquities
that
we've
seen
come
out
of
that,
and
so
I
do
think
that
not
that
you
know
the
staff.
D
D
D
D
We
want
to
plan
for
people
to
stay
in
place
and
to
thrive,
and
that
may
require
a
restructuring
and
we
and
again
this
is
this
is
my
third
week,
and
so
I
think,
by
next
month
we
will
be
looking
at
what
each
division
is
doing.
The
mayor's
office
asks
us
to
figure
out
like
what
are
you
all
doing
so
that
I
can
see
what
we're
all
doing
now
to
make
the
proper
adjustments?
I'm
not
sure
if
I
answered
your
question
because.
D
G
D
I
received
a
wonderfully
written
and
planned
out
document
from
corey
lehmann,
addressing
the
planning
amendments
that
he's
interested
in
introducing,
and
some
of
them
do
include
basic
code.
So
I
would
definitely
have
no
problem
talking
with
you
about
that
with
him
and
also
addressing
the
code
from
a
racial
equity
standpoint.
I
mean
he's
very
interested
in
looking
at
that
and
how
we
don't
continue
to
harm
residents
in
the
city
that
have
been
segregated
into
areas
by
previous
planning
codes
and
laws
that
are
enforced
by
federal
state
and
local
government.
D
G
I
I
You
know
every
you
know
almost
every
day
of
our
lives.
We
spend
together
in
this
room.
It
feels
like
sometimes
the
year
it
is
every
day.
So
I
always
like
to
add
in
my
stick,
which
these
guys
have
all
heard,
which
is
that
you
know
in
district
seven
we
have
seen
more
upward
price
pressure
than
any
other
part
of
the
city,
there's
just
a
dramatic
increase
in
home
values
and
home
prices
and
in
rent.
I
I
You
know
from
creating
the
city's
first
community
land
trust
to
working
on
inclusionary
zoning
to
even
advocating
for
the
changes
around
parking
requirements
for
housing
that
we
council
passed
last
year,
so
that
we
relieved
some
of
the
requirements
for
the
kind
of
tightest
row
house
areas,
because
that
brings
down
price
right.
So
it
really
does
save
housing
when
you're
talking
about
new
construction.
If
you
don't
have
to
provide
that
that
parking,
you
you
save
money,
that's
a
that's
a
whole
other
room
of
a
house.
I
So
we
continue
to
do
that
work.
But
I
always
acknowledge
with
my
colleagues
that
we
really
have
a
city
with
two
different
housing
markets.
It's
maybe
some
of
the
areas
are
starting
to
change
right,
but
that
we've,
for
so
many
years
only
had
policies
around
blight
and
disinvestment
and
abandonment,
but
and
and
it's
good
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
right.
I
That's
the
rightful
role
of
local
government
and
with
city
planning
and
zoning
and
land
use
as
a
tool,
but
it's
also
okay
for
us
to
do
the
other
side
of
the
market
when
it's
hyper
investment
and
it's
gentrification
and
it's
displacement
and
crowding
right.
So
we
and
I
I
think
it's
rightful
for
us
to
moderate
both
ends
of
crazy
market.
So
I
know
that
both
ends
are
dysfunctional
and
not
creating
the
city
that
we
want
to
create
right.
I
So
we're
we're
here,
I'm
here
to
support
right,
our
our
citizens
and
their
vision
for
their
neighborhoods,
while
balancing
the
scales
as
to
the
best,
with
all
of
the
tools
that
we
can
for
equity
and
success
for
everybody,
and
so
a
lot
of
that
does
involve
land
use.
Not
all
some
of
it
involves
financing
which
I
was
documenting.
Councilman
krauss,
like
some
of
those
questions,
are
also
going
to
be
questions.
I
I
think
for
the
next
interviewees
we're
talking
about
a
redevelopment
agency
and
where
financing
can
happen,
but
that
we
try
to
create
these
neighborhoods.
I
think,
especially,
that
we
are
lucky
in
most
of
our
city
to
have
had
neighborhoods
that
were
walkable
neighborhoods
that
had
grocery
stores
that
had
access
to
transit
that
had
access.
You
know
room
for
small
businesses
close
to
shops,
where
you
could
get
your
daily
needs
in
your
15-minute
walk-in
kind
of
city
right
and
to
the
best
that
that
we
can
recover
from
bad
zoning.
For
the
last.
I
You
know,
50
to
100
years
that
stripped
our
neighborhoods
away
from
their
assets
and
really
isolated
some
citizens
away
from
their
daily
needs.
I
know
that
you
know,
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
energy
to
do
that
and
that's
part
of
our
land
use
power.
So
I
would
be
very
interested
in
that-
and
that
includes
the
kind
of
urban
ag
stuff
that
councilman
krauss
and
councilman
smith
and
some
other
council
members
have
been
working
on.
I
But
not
only
you
know,
we're
also
interested
in
supporting
a
lot
of
us
represent
neighborhoods
with
main
streets,
traditional
trolley
car
main
streets,
where
we
have
local
small
business,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
doing
anything
to
make
their
lives
more
difficult
in
our
land
use
in
our
zoning
code.
And
sometimes
we
are,
you
know
a
lot
of
that
is
not
in
your
department.
It
would
be
in
pli,
but
there
still
are
ways.
I
They
need
the
lower
rent
in
order
to
succeed
honestly
a
lot
of
times
and
they
we're
at
risk
of
of
displacing
those
neighborhood
serving
businesses
that
really
make
daily
life
doable,
and
so
it's
always
a
keen
interest
of
mine,
and
so
it
would
look
forward
to
working
with
your
department
there.
But
I
wanted
to.
I
know
that
you've
done
some
deep
dives
on
that,
and
maybe
you
know
you
talked
about
it
a
little
bit
earlier.
I
If
there's
anything,
you
wanted
to
add
about
how
you
see
that
kind
of
engagement
happening
around
kind
of
what
neighborhood
visions
are
and
what
their
assets
currently
are
or
what
their
deficits
are,
what
they
their
needs
are
because
they're
not
all
the
same,
and
they
don't
have
to
be
all
the
same
right.
And
so
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
have
anything
to
add
there
so.
D
I
thank
you
for
the
questions
and
for
the
comments
I
mean
these
are
very
complex
topics
that
I
know
that
you've
been
very
passionate
about
it
and
others
here
and
as
well
as
community
members
and
businesses.
Quite
frankly,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
other
authorities,
the
ra
and
other
entities
as
well
on
that
as
far
as
engagement
and
community
plans
and
visions,
I
do
think
that
they
are
a
very
real
asset.
Oftentimes.
D
The
process
by
which
we
do
them
is
as
important
as
the
planning,
because
people
feel
like
they
actually
have.
People
are
investing
in
their
time
and
I
think
understanding
that
people
want
to
be
heard.
They
want
their
voices
to
be
heard
and
oftentimes
the
only
place
they
can
have.
That
voice
heard
is
in
a
plan.
D
I
don't
have
much
to
say
about
the
composition
of
the
plans,
although
I
do
sometimes
want
us
to
think
about
equity
as
the
lens
through
which
we
do
the
plans,
as
opposed
to
equity,
being
a
part
of
the
plan.
That
makes
any
sense,
and-
and
so
you
know,
understanding
that
communities,
even
if
they
look
like
they're
monoliths.
There's
there's
such
richness
and
diversity
within
the
communities
that
they're
in
you
know,
based
upon
ability
and
based
upon
age.
We
have
young
people
who
should
be
involved
in
planning.
I
definitely
agree
with.
D
D
So
I
think
these
are
assets
for
so
many
reasons
being
able
to
look
and
try
to
look
into
the
future
as
to
what
you
want
your
community
to
look
like
is
not
very
easy
for
a
lot
of
people,
because
they've
never
seen
anything,
but
what
they've
got
they've
never
been
asked
the
question:
what
do
you
want
your
neighbor
to
look
like
when
they
ask
you
ask
the
question?
They
don't
know,
and
so
again
I
think
that
they
are
valuable.
D
I
did
exercises
at
the
at
the
redevelopment
authority.
I
had
these
tool
kits
in
neighborhoods
and
I
did
one
with
councilman
krause
and
belle
tuber.
The
two
of
them
were
in
beltuber
and
it
was
a
charade,
a
lot
of
vacant
property.
They
wanted
to
find
out
what
the
community
wanted.
You
know
what
they
wanted
to
do
with
it
and
what
the
challenges
were,
but
it
was
really
about
them
getting
to
know
who
their
council
person
was,
who
their
city
planner
was,
who
what
the
urban
redevelopment
are.
I
I
A
A
I'm
actually
going
to
be
brief,
because
I
know
we
have
acting
director
norman
waiting
and
representative
sarah
ana
murado
and
cal
waiting
for
the
appointment.
The
interviews
for
the
ura
so
I'll
just
be
real
brief.
I
did
have
some
a
brief
conversation
about
repealing
the
art
commission,
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
that's
heavy
on
my
mind,
but
I
I
love
the
idea.
A
I
love
the
idea
of
having
the
argument,
but
I
think
they
need
to
understand
that
they're
in
a
role
where
they're
to
offer
some
some
advice
to
the
community,
but
I
don't
think
the
decision-making
should
be
theirs
on
what
the
community
has
chosen
to
put
up
in
their
neighborhoods.
So
for
me,
I
think
when
people
over
exert
their
selves
or
their
their
influence,
I
think
then
we
need
to
reevaluate
what
we're
doing
there,
because
I
think
that
there's
been
times
where
people
didn't
put
banners
up
because
they
weren't
approved
by
their.
A
Although
the
community
approved
them,
they
weren't
approved
by
the
art
commission
in
various
neighborhoods,
at
least
that's
some
of
the
feedback
I'm
getting
so
so
just
so,
you
know.
That's
that's
a
conversation.
I've
already
brought
up
to
the
administration
that
I'm
I'm
considering,
but
I
will
work
but
definitely
work
with
him
and
you
on
that
as
well.
But
when
will
you
talk
about
the
community
and
the
community-based
organizations?
A
And
so
when
you
talk
about
inclusionary
zoning
and
we
talk
about
different
things
that
are
important
to
the
east
end.
Those
aren't
always
the
things
that
are
important
to
our
side
of
town.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
moving
forward,
I
I
know
that
the
three
at
least
three
of
us
are
going
to
stick
together.
I'm
pretty
sure
I
can
get
other
members
to
stand
with
us
when
it
comes
to
our
side
of
town
and
making
sure
we're
getting
we're
getting
something
a
little
bit
different.
A
Some
more
incentives-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
biggest
things
we
need-
is
some
incentives
for
development
on
our
side
of
town,
but
we
also
need
plans
and
when
I
hear
city
planning
with
a
planning
department
with
so
many
people-
and
I
would
be
thrilled
to
spend
ext,
extend
and
help
with
city
planning
if
there
were
two
things
one
they
respected
the
role
of
and
that
they
worked
through
the
council
members
on
things
I
know
recently,
we
had
a
conversation
councilman
gross
worked
extensively
on.
What
was
the
study
council?
A
That
was
something
you
worked
on,
and
so
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
that
respect
is
get
is
brought
back
to
council
because
we
don't
like,
because
I
it
gets
to
a
point
where
we
force
our
way
then,
and-
and
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
that.
I
think
that
I
think
this
administration
has
so
far
has
been
really
willing
to
work
with
us.
A
A
I
really
would
like
to
see
some
plans
for
this
for
this
neighborhoods
individual
neighborhood
plans
that
are
developed
and
drafted
with
the
neighbors
that
live
in
those
communities,
not
somebody
from
the
east
end
deciding
what
we
should
do
in
the
west
end
and
not
somebody
from
the
east
end
or
from
the
north
side
deciding
what
should
happen
in
the
south
hills,
but
that
you're
going
to
the
neighbor.
If
you
live
in
elliot
you
have
a
sp,
you
have
a
voice
in
elliot.
If
you
live
in
ferrywood,
you
have
a
voice
in
fairy
wood.
A
If
you
live
in
sheridan,
you
have
a
boys
and
chef,
but
if
you
live
in
westwood
you're
not
going
to
tell
oakwood
what
to
do,
you
know
so
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
want
to
make
sure
the
residents
of
the
neighborhoods
are
respected.
Then
I'm
I'm
happy
to
work
with
you
on
increasing
the
staff,
but
I
want
to
see
some
of
that
stuff.
First,
I
want
to
see
that
respect.
A
One
of
the
things
I
hope
this
administration
does
is
that
they
collaborate
a
little
bit
more
with
their
departments
and
making
sure
that
when
you're
sending
somebody
into
the
community
you're
not
sending
20
people
for
one
community
meeting
that
there's
a
person
who
can
go
into
the
community
and
they
can
speak
for
all
departments,
because
what
I
found
a
lot
of
times
when
we
would
go
to
community
meetings,
we
would
be
contradicting
one
another
because
nobody
communicated
with
they
didn't
know,
and
I
would
sit
there.
Sometimes
thinking
yeah.
A
A
So
I'm
not
going
to
say
anymore
other
than
we'll
talk
about
the
foundations
later
and
your
strengths.
Could
you
tell
me
what
you
think
your
strengths
are
for
this
position,
because
this
is
an
interview,
so
I
want
to
know
what
do
you
think
your
strengths
are
and
what
do
you
think
hope
to
bring
differently
to
this
position?
That's
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
wrap
it
up
and
go
to
director.
D
So
my
strengths
are:
I'm
a
really
systems
thinker.
I
could
see
the
connections
between
things
that
seem
very
disparate
to
people
and
sometimes
obvious,
but
really
looking
at
how
systems
work
together.
I
think
holistically
about
things.
I
am
a
collaborator
I
like
to
get
to.
Yes,
I
like
to
figure
out
how
to
get
to
yes,
it
takes
me
forever,
but
I
don't
like
to
say
no,
I
like
to
say
yes,
I
think.
D
And
I
completely
agree
with
you
because
we
can't
we
are
working
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
the
city
and
we
have
to
get
to
yes
for
their
sakes
if
nothing
else
yeah
and
so,
and
I
think
that
the
staff
at
the
city
planning
department
understands
that
and
we
do
that
all
day
and
that's
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
and
I'm
not
I
mean
I
think,
with
regard
to
collaboration,
I
mean
already
working
with
kim
lucas
at
domi.
You
know
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
split
that
that
responsibility.
D
We
went
to
a
zone
five
meeting
a
couple
of
days
ago
and
did
some
work
with
her.
Your
staff
was
in
that
meeting
around
gotta
get
around
the
bridge.
We
got
a
lot
of
challenges
and
opportunities
ahead
for
the
residents
here,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
collaboratively
collaboratively-
and
I
think
you
know
I
just
I
have
grown
to
love
living
here-
I'm
a
new
yorker,
but
I've
been
here
it's
as
long
as
I've
been
anywhere
else
other
than
new
york
city.
A
E
A
I
A
Say
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you,
we
have
a
good
relationship.
I
you
know
excited
to.
If
there's
something
we
can
do
to
help
excluding
increasing
your
your
staff,
then
please,
let
us
know,
and
then,
when
we
get
to
a
place
where
we're
comfortable,
then
I'm
happy
to
have
that
conversation
as
well
and
good
luck,
your
point,
your
confirmation
will
come
up
this
tuesday.
Okay,
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
I.
A
B
A
J
J
J
I
was
promoted
to
deputy
director
at
the
beginning
of
2019
and
then
had
the
good
fortune
to
become
the
acting
director
in
november
of
2020,
so
I've
actually
been
in
the
acting
director
position,
for
I
guess,
16
months
now,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
speaking
with
everyone
on
the
council
today.
Thank.
A
I
I
might
cut
there,
we
go
it's
hard
to
get
these
mics
on
and
off.
Welcome
director,
it's
always
a
pleasure
to
see
you.
I
will
probably
just
say
a
few
things,
I'm
supportive
of
your
nomination,
and
I
encourage
the
the
mayor
to
to
keep
you
in
this
role.
So
I've
been
impressed
with
the
work
that
you've
done
at
imp
and
I
always
recommend
to
everyone
who
has
an
interest
to
watch
your
annual
budget
hearings
for
imp
because
they're
so
cogent
and
coherent,
and
they
communicate
so
much
information
and
succinctly
and
clearly.
I
So
I
appreciate
that
I
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity,
maybe
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
you've
done
already
at
imp,
especially
as
you
point
out
on
your
resume
the
five-year
plan,
the
modernization
of
infrastructure
and
feel
free
to
point
out
in
the
here.
I,
where
we've
pointed
out
elsewhere,
kind
of
how
far
we've
have
to
come
in
rebuilding
the
actual
physical
infrastructure
of
our
our
data
systems.
J
Oh
well,
thank
you
for
your
kind
words.
I
really
appreciate
it,
so
I
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
some
areas
that
have
been
of
great
focus,
and
you
know
really
none
of
this.
You
know
it's
it's
an
expensive
proposition
right
and
we
are
responsible
for
underpinning
many
of
the
services
offered
by
all
of
the
19
departments
across
the
city.
J
J
In
the
past
few
years,
we
have
launched
several
initiatives
to
really
bring
all
of
that
important
technological
infrastructure
up
to
modern
standards
in
order
to
support
the
many
applications,
endpoint
devices
and
other
systems
that
our
operating
departments
desperately
need
in
order
to
serve
the
city
that
includes
physical
updates
to
many
of
our
facilities,
beginning
with
the
city
county
building
last
year,
where
we
completely
rewired
the
entire
building
for
all
the
city
floors
with
new
cat6a
internet
wiring.
That
should
future
proof
on
the
need
to
update
that
wiring
again
for
about
20
years.
J
We
also
removed
many
of
what
are
called
the
wiring
closets.
They
they
were
all
located
in
the
restrooms
which,
if
anyone
knows
anything
about
electricity
and
wiring
and
water,
is
probably
not
a
good
combination.
So
all
of
those
were
removed
from
the
restrooms
and
each
floor
got
a
new
wiring
closet,
along
with
wi-fi
access
points
so
where
it
used
to
be
it's
a
very
old
building
with
very
thick
walls
and
wi-fi
access
was
highly
intermittent
on
all
of
the
floors,
and
now
we
have
full
coverage
of
wi-fi
on
all
of
the
city
floors.
J
J
Previously
we
we
had
on
on-premises
data
centers.
We
still
have
those
data
centers,
but
today
they
are
much
smaller
and
the
majority
of
our
applications,
our
servers,
so
the
compute,
as
well
as
the
storage,
is
all
in
the
cloud.
So
that's
been
really
a
tremendous
leap
forward
for
us
and
allows
us
to
scale
up
or
down
as
needed
by
the
department's
demands
for
additional
storage
and
applications
makes
us
much
more
agile.
From
that
perspective,
we've
also
had
a
very
large
effort
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
which
continues
to
really
harden
our
I.t
borders.
I
We
move
into
5g
as
we
move
into
advanced
telecoms,
near
field,
communications
and
they're
on
our
property
and
there's
a
various
levels
of
jurisdiction
with
the
state
of
pennsylvania,
maybe
trying
to
preempt
our
jurisdiction,
but
now
new
federal
funds
and
have
you
begun
discussions
about
how
this
kind
of
these
departmental
jurisdictions?
I
feel
like
meet
here
when
we're
talking
about
cyber
security.
J
A
J
I
A
G
B
G
J
J
You
know
I
I
try
to
be
very
focused
in
when
we
put
to
pull
together
our
budgets
in
terms
of
time,
money
and
people
to
make
sure
that
we
are
really
focused
on
spending
those
resources
in
a
way
that
brings
the
most
value
to
the
city,
where
I
think
we
should
be
and
honestly
will
be
expending
more
of
our
time
and
energy
in
overcoming
challenges
is
around
things
like
data
governance,
data
data
privacy.
So
all
of
that
work
is
very
important.
J
I
also
believe
that
we
will
be
investing
more
time
and
energy
and
resources
into
operational
excellence
and
performance
improvement,
expanding
upon
a
number
of
the
performance
programs
that
we
have
started
over
the
past
few
years.
So
those
are
two
areas
that
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
tackling
with
my
team
and
in
collaboration
with
all
of
the
other
directors
and
chiefs.
G
J
So
that
goes
back
to
cyber
security.
More
generally,
because
data
data
is
a
part
of
that
right
and
we
work
very
closely
with
fbi,
homeland
security
and
cisa
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
systems
are
secured
to
the
level
that
they
really
should
be.
We
perform
ongoing
assessments
and
mitigation
efforts,
risk
assessments
and
really
try
to
take
steps
to
make
sure
that
we
are
applying
the
very
best
practices
that
that
are
available
to
us
from
our
colleagues
in
those
other
departments.
J
There
are
many
many
things
that
I
think
governments
can
do
generally
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
pittsburgh
is
really
one
of
the
cities.
That's
on
top
of
this
we've
been
paying
close
attention.
We
have
a
staff
and
a
team,
a
cyber
security
team
that
is
dedicated
to
this
and
and
they've
actually
been
doing
a
great
job.
So
I'm
really
I'm
really
pleased
with
the
work
they're
doing
the
thing.
That's
scary,
about
cyber
security
is
the
evil
baddies.
J
As
I
call
them,
they
only
have
to
be
right
once
we
have
to
be
right,
100
of
the
time
and
that's
a
really
tough
situation
to
be
in.
So
that's
where
you
know
our
chief
information
security
officer,
sylvia
harris
has
been
doing
a
terrific
job
in
staying
in
close
touch
with
all
of
our
colleagues
and
participating
in
ongoing
conversations
with
those
at
the
federal
level,
as
well
as
those
at
the
local
and
regional
level,
and
making
sure
that
we
are
doing
everything.
G
G
G
You
know
and
and
talked
about
about
what
will
be
on
that
website,
but
is
there
something
similar
that
we
should
have
for
data
security
to
ensure
that
we're
being
like
we're
up
to
spec
on
it?
Is
this
something
that
is
like
a
monthly
meeting
that
the
administration
has
has
with
like
who's
in
control
of
I
mean
ultimately
you're
in
control
or
the
the
you
said
mentioned.
Sylvia
harris
is
the
control
of
making
sure
that
all
these
boxes
are
checked.
J
J
J
G
You
know
obviously
don't
want
to
do
something
that
puts
us
at
risk,
but
just
curious.
You
know
if
it's,
if
it's
like
a
car
inspection
where
everything's
kind
of
checked
so
yeah
it'd
be
great
to
understand
that
more
and
if
there's
something
internal
that
we
can
see
quarterly
or
periodically.
That
would
ensure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
so.
G
The
the
other
question
I
have
was
with
everyone
working
from
home
or
the
or
you
know
certain
offices
and
apartments
that
have
work
from
home
options
and
also
people
that
work
in
the
office
is
everyone
working
on
a
on
a
city
computer
and
if
not,
what
are
we
doing
to
to
make
sure
that
they
are
that
they
have
the
best
option?
The
best
you
know
available
technology
to
to
to
to
you
know
to
use
our
device
and
not
their
own
personal
device.
J
G
G
E
You,
my
colleagues,
asked
all
the
questions
I
was
going
to
ask
director
yeah
so
now
I
just
really
wanted
to
say:
you'll
have
my
full
support
and
quite
simply
put
when
you
were,
I
think,
appointed
deputy
director.
I
think
I
called
you
your
first
week
on
the
job
over
a
very
sensitive
matter,
and
I
really
appreciate
how
you
addressed
that
and
you
got
back
to
me
promptly
and
for
me
with
the
department
heads.
That's.
E
A
You
councilman
and
it's
my
turn
and,
and
I
just
I'll
just
say
briefly
director-
I
I've
interacted
with
you
just
a
few
times,
but
I
talk
to
some
of
your
employees
and
they
speak
very
highly
of
you,
and
so
I
think
that
went
a
long
way
with
me,
but
I
I
do
want
to
ask
a
few
questions.
You
mentioned
the
cyber
security
and
briefing
council
and
you're
meeting
with
directors.
Is
there
anybody
from
city
council
that
you
meet
with
in
that
regard?
Is
there
some?
Is
there
a
task
force?
J
H
A
I
would
just
suggest
that
you
also
meet
with
our
clerk's
office
because
they
do
a
lot
to
keep
this
room
going.
They
work
with
your
team
every
day
or
every
week
I
should
say
for
our
meetings
and
for
making
sure
the
council
members
have
all
the
things
that
they
need.
So
I
would.
I
would
request
that
you
also
include
our
clerk's
office
in
those
conversations
and
and
if,
if
need
be,
then
I
can,
you
know
we
can
legislate
a
task
force
or
something,
but
I
would
just
like
to.
A
Hopefully
I
would
hope
that
you
respect
our
request
to
include
our
clerk's
office
in
that.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
know.
Thank
you
and
then
security
cameras.
I
know
that
we
had
an
issue
with
those,
because
public
safety
was
saying
we
couldn't
handle
any
additional
security
cameras.
Could
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
that?
Where
we
are
with
that
and.
J
A
A
A
I
just
want
you
to
know,
because
otherwise
I'd
be
growing
you
about
it,
but
they
I
wonder
how
you're
going
to
make
them
feel
part
of
the
team
if
you're
already
doing
that,
you've
been
there
for
a
while,
so
I'm
assuming
you've
probably
already
have
done
some
of
this
work.
But
how
do
you
make
value
or
make
the
current
employees
feel
valued
that
are
there?
They
have
done
a
lot.
I
know
that
they
pretty
much
trained.
The
last
director
and
the
departments,
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
J
How
I
work
with
my
employees,
yeah
in
the
department
sure
and
how
I
showed
them
appreciation
well.
First
of
all
I
do
say
thank
you,
because
they
do
do
a
great
job,
I'm
really
proud
to
work
with
my
team.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
fun.
We
have
quarterly
meetings
and
we
have
various
awards
that
we
give
out
for
all
kinds
of
service
and
great
things
that
they
do.
J
I
received
just
a
wonderful
email
from
director
acting
director
hornstein
over
in
public
works
about
some
members
of
our
team
that
have
really
helped
him
out
with
with
a
critical
dashboard
that
he
he
and
his
team
rely
on,
and
that
just
makes
my
week
when
I
get
things
like
that.
So
you
know
I
have
to
say
I'm
enormously
proud
of
the
hard
work
that
my
team
does,
and
I
just
I
can't
say
enough
good
things
about
them.
J
A
That's
good
to
hear
and
I
they
must
feel
valued
because
previously
I
did
hear
you
know
some
concerns
and-
and
I
haven't
heard
any
from
them
currently
from
current
employees.
I
should
say:
that's
it
for
director.
I
I'm
just
gonna
wait
until
I
hear
your
response
regarding
the
clerk's
office
being
included
in
in
your
bri
in
your
meetings
for
cyber
security
and
then,
if
I'm
comfortable
with
that
I'll,
put
this
appointment
on
the
agenda
for
next
tuesday
for
confirmation.
A
B
A
H
I'm
sure
good
afternoon
folks,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
my
name
is
sarah
nimrodo.
I
represent
the
21st
state
house
district,
which
means
nothing
to
most
people,
but
if
you're
looking
at
it
in
terms
of
city
neighborhoods,
it
currently
includes
morningside
stanton
heights,
the
10th
ward
in
laurensville,
bloomfield
and
friendship.
H
H
H
Land
projects
over
the
years
and
then
I
went
out
and
was
consulting
with
government
agencies
and
non-profits
on
communications
policy
and
community
outreach
initiatives
before
I
ran
for
office,
and
now
I
have
been
serving
in
this
role
like
I
said
for
four
years,
and
really
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
bring
that
spirit
of
community
engagement
to
our
district
office
operations.
So
we
really
try
to
be
proactive
in
our
outreach
to
two
citizens
that
we
represent
and
we
really
try
to
bring
their
voice
to
harrisburg
and
when
we
are
designing
legislation.
A
F
Sure
my
name
is
kyle
chintillopoly
I
currently
serve
in
the
mayor's
administration
as
the
chief
economic
development
officer,
I'm
a
native
of
western
pa
grew
up
in
erie.
Pennsylvania,
ended
up
studying
architecture
at
penn
state
and
then
worked
in
erie
for
a
general
contractor
for
a
time
for
about
six
years
before
moving
to
pittsburgh
in
pursuing
a
degree
in
public
policy,
with
the
focus
in
economic
development
from
there
spent
seven
years
in
various
roles
in
city
government,
both
the
ura
and
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
F
The
last
three
years
I
was
with
the
pittsburgh
regional
alliance,
which
is
the
affiliate
of
the
allegheny
conference,
focused
on
economic
development
for
the
10
counties
in
southwest
pa.
I
missed
you
all
so
much.
I
missed
city
government
so
much
and
and
jumped
at
the
opportunity
when,
when
the
team
and
the
guinea
administration,
you
know
called
me
to
see
if
I'd
be
interested
in
coming
on
board,
so
I
couldn't
be
more
excited
about
getting
to
do.
You
know
this
economic
development
work
every
day.
F
You
know
how
we're
actually
managing
that-
and
I
know
representative
intermorato
feels
that
in
her
district
as
well,
so
that
we
aren't
just
doing
you
know
what
has
typically
been
and
how
we
sort
of
incentivized
these
developments
and
these
investments
to
come
in
really
socializing
that
risk
and
privatizing
the
return.
But
what
are
the
public
benefits
that
we're
able
to
secure
so
that
we're
building
a
pittsburgh
that
we
want
a
pittsburgh?
That's
for
all
and
one
that
we're
proud
of.
A
E
Cintalapala
shintalopoli
I've
got
a
murado
don,
I
think
by
this
time,
but
you
know
both
beautiful
names.
I
love
names
with
vowels
on
the
end,
I
think
you're
beautiful.
So
so,
if
I,
if
I
could
representative
and
immorado,
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
saying
we
have
a
mutual
friend
in
the
way
of
the
police
chief
of
the
housing
authority.
Mike
vogel.
Do
you
know
mike
right?
E
So
so
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
last
time
I
saw
you
with
down
was
down
at
the
building
trades,
which
I'm
I
was
glad
to
see
you
there.
I
know
you
know
they.
They
they
recognize
and
they'd
love
to
have
your
support
as
well
as
I'm
sure
you
with
them
as
well.
But
mike
is
an
old
friend
of
mine.
We
go
way
way
back
so
so
we
saw
each
other.
You
know
gave
each
other
a
brief,
hello,
brief
hug,
which
was
very
nice.
E
We
don't
run
into
each
other
that
much,
but
I
want
to
tell
you
two
hours
later,
I'm
at
home,
I'm
on
the
phone
with
mike
you're,
my
friend,
you
know
and
you
beep
in
on
his
line
and
you
say
wait.
I
just
I
guess
you
were
with
him
earlier
in
the
day,
and
you
said
you
had
a
covet
scare
and
I
was
like
no.
No,
I
only
see
her
once
a
year,
so
I
was
kind
of
thrown
into
that
cove
and
scare
myself.
E
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
did
contract
or
not,
but
I
didn't
want
to
know.
I
was
just
like
it's
fine.
I
was
fine
though
I
didn't
get
sick
so
but
yeah
so
so
now
you
know
I
just
really
wanted
to
say
to
devote
to
you.
This
to
me
is
the
most
important
board.
We
have
it's
a
five-member
board.
I
believe
it's
five
numbers.
Five
members,
the
amount
of
cash
that
we've
infused
into
you
know
in
the
responsibilities
from
the
from
the
affordable
housing
care.
E
You
know,
I
think,
there's
great
responsibilities
there,
whether
it's
talking
about
redoing
avenues
of
hope
or
you
know,
projects
like
our
place
that
I
have
in
my
area.
But
I
do
echo
our
council
president,
and
you
know
councilman
bruce
krauss,
is
sentiments
that,
yes,
we
want
you
southwest
of
the
rivers
in
so
many
capacities.
You
know
whether
it's
developing,
whether
it's
the
main
street
or
cosmic.
E
So
now
I
just
really
wanted
to
emphasize
that
as
well.
You
know
there
are
many
many
ways
and
I
don't
have
big
developments,
we're
not
carson
street
we're,
not
oakland.
You
know
in
my
districts,
but
you
know.
I
feel
that
we
need
the
attention
of
the
ura.
In
so
many
ways
there
are
a
few
ura
ura
owned
properties
and
and
representing
anamorado
I
heard
you
mentioned.
E
You
name
it.
You
know
you
got
and
that's
the
other
thing
about
this
board.
You
know
you're,
it's
such
a
vast,
va
variety
variety
of
different
things
that
you're
dealing
with
and
lots
of
money.
So
so
we
just
look
forward
to
getting
our
fair
share
and
I'll.
Let
you
comment
either
one
of
you
on
in
any
which
way
thanks.
F
I
I
can't
look
represented,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
first
or
you
want
me
to
go.
First,
go
right
ahead:
kyle,
okay,
yeah
councilman!
I
would
agree
with
you
there's
different
characteristics
in
different
urban
fabric
right
in
the
neighborhood,
so
the
scale
of
the
intervention
isn't
going
to
be
the
same,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
isn't
any
less
important
right.
So
how
we
do
that?
F
The
work
that
we
do
you
know
some
of
it's
just
and
representative
krause
will
appreciate
this
from
you
know
what
south
side,
local
development
corporation
had
done
in
terms
of
just
main
street
work
right,
how
you
get
in
there
work
with
those
businesses
get
them.
You
know
there
so
that
they
are
supporting.
You
know
the
neighborhoods
and
communities
and
certainly
in
a
neighborhood
like
bc.
Where
I
lived
for
seven
years,
you
did
yeah
yeah.
I
lived
on
orangewood
yeah,
just
moved
a
couple
years
ago,
but
so
I'm
very
familiar.
F
You
know
you're
approved
very
familiar
with
that,
though
you
know
not
more
recently
in
terms
of
certainly
the
housing
pressures
that
people
are
feeling
prices
there
right.
That
wasn't
the
case
when,
when
I
initially
moved
there,
but
it's
a
great
community-
and
you
know,
I'm
excited
to
see
the
investments
that
are
happening
on
broadway
and
you
know
certainly
the
way
the
uri
can
be
supportive
of
that
supportive
of
belts
hoover
school
and
I'm
excited
tomorrow
to
learn
more
about
that
project.
F
Council
member
krauss,
even
though
we
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
it
the
other
day,
I'm
excited
to
sort
of
see
the
renderings
and
the
vision
for
what
it
can
be,
and
certainly
you
know
the
council.
President
we've
talked
briefly,
you
know
a
number
of
projects
that
the
pittsburgh
housing
development
corporation's
done
in
sheridan
and
other
neighborhoods
there.
It's
the
scale
of
the
intervention
is
different
right,
but
it's
null
it's
important.
So
we
have
to
be
thoughtful
in
the
way
that
we
approach
that
to
ensure
that
there's
a
meaningful
sort
of
mass
right.
F
E
H
Sure
I
have
found
that
my
time
in
office,
my
greatest
asset
are
my
two
ears,
so
I
really
do
value
listening
to
the
people
who
are
impacted
by
the
decisions
that
I
make
in
my
role
and
you
referenced
chief
bogle
at
the
allegheny
county
housing
authority
police.
Soon,
after
being
sworn
in,
the
county
exec
did
appoint
me
for
to
the
allegheny
county
housing
authority
board
and
while
housing
and
housing
justice
is
a
passion
of
mine.
H
I
didn't
know
a
lot
of
about
hud
and
specifically
those
regulations
but
being
able
to
have
to
be
able
to
sit
down
with
the
team.
There
listen
to
what's
going
on
in
the
times
before,
covid,
going
to
the
different
housing
authority
properties
and
listening
to
the
residents
on
what
they
had
to
say
and
what
their
experience
had
been
was
a
way
that
got
me
acquainted
with
what
was
going
on,
and
I
feel
the
same
with
the
ura
board.
H
It's
not
only
listening
to
the
people
who
make
that
run
day
in
and
day
out,
but
also
folks,
like
yourself,
and
you
know
any
residents
or
stakeholders
that
you
think
would
be
important
to
listen
to.
I'm
always
available
to
to
sit
and
listen.
So
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
appreciate
what
you
said
about
economic
development
right.
Economic
development
doesn't
need
to
just
be
about
a
giant
multi-million
dollar
project,
it's
about
our
main
streets.
H
E
Great
well,
thank
you.
You
know,
I
believe
that
both
of
you
are
going
to
be
really
good
assets
for
the
ura
you'll.
Both
have
my
full
support.
I
will
tell
you
and
the
ura
is
very
active
in
certain
avenues
which
I
look
forward
to
carrying
that
conversation
on
when
the
time
is
appropriate
and
certain
things
but
yeah.
So
so,
thank
you
both
appreciate
you
being
here.
You
know,
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
Thank
you.
G
G
F
I
guess
I'll
answer
it
in
two
ways
you
know
one
I
mean
I've
worked
there
twice
now
right.
So
when
I
first
was
in
pittsburgh
and
got
done
with
graduate
school,
I
was
in
the
housing
department
there
and
served
as
a
project
manager
before
coming
over
to
work
in
the
mayor's
office.
The
first
time,
and
then
I
went
back
as
as
the
chief
strategy
officer
where
we
started
working
on
the
organizational
strategic
plan.
F
I
mentioned
both
of
those
instances
just
to
say
that
as
an
organization,
you
know
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
the
council
member
coghill,
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
impact
right
that
the
the
organization
can
have
and
ideally
in
a
good
way,
it
has
a
sorted
history.
To
be
sure,
you
know
that
that
we're
all
very
aware
of
in
the
way
that
we
approach
the
work,
but
it's
an
organization,
that's
important
to
me
to
be
completely
honest.
It's
when
I
was
you
know
growing
up
in
erie,
it's
a
rust
belt
town.
F
You
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
same
issues
when
I
moved
back
home
after
graduating
college
and
was
working.
You
know
you
see
those
things
right:
the
shuttered
mills
and
the
neighborhoods
that
don't
look
the
same
way
as
you
remember
them
as
chil.
You
know
a
child,
etc.
That's
what
really
made
me
want
to
get
involved
in
public
policy
broadly
in
economic
development,
specifically,
and
and
at
the
time
when
you
were
looking
around,
there
were
very
few
places
where
you
started
to
hear
about
things
happening,
at
least
within
our
region.
F
Right
pittsburgh
was
one
of
them.
This
was
12
years
ago
and
and
the
ura
was
you
know
when
you
kind
of
looked
under
the
hood
behind
so
much
of
that
work.
So
that's
a
reason.
You
know
something
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
be
part
of
the
organization,
again,
obviously
in
a
different
sort
of
capacity,
you
know
more
broadly,
you
know,
I
would
say.
F
Obviously
you
know,
as
it
turns
to
to
again
echo
some
of
what
councilmember
coghill
said
and
then
the
ability
to
kind
of
drive
the
you
know
an
agenda
forward
when
we
talk
about
what
an
equitable
pittsburgh
looks
like
you
know,
in
equitable
development
broadly,
and
how
do
we
ensure
you
know?
There's
real
access
to
jobs
and
business
opportunities
in
these
industries
that
are
emerging
in
pittsburgh,
that
people
don't
always
feel
or
don't
always
see
themselves
in
right,
increased
housing
opportunities.
A
lot
of
that
came
up.
F
You
know,
during
the
conversation
with
director
designate
abrams
that
are
safe,
accessible,
affordable
to
residents
at
every
income
level
and
then
certainly
the
new
investments.
You
know
to
what
we've
been
talking
about.
You
know
into
our
historically
disadvantaged
small
businesses
the
main
streets
in
the
supporting
those
entrepreneurs.
F
The
ura
sits
at
the
nexus
of
a
lot
of
that
work.
So
I'm
excited
to
work
on
that.
But
to
echo
representative
immorado's
point
we
have
listening
that
we
need
to
do
right.
The
transition
teams
are
out
there,
they're
hearing
things
so
as
we
think
about
some
of
the
particulars
of
that.
You
know
we
can't
answer
that
today,
free
council
member,
but
you
know
those
are
the
sort
of
broad
strokes
and
what
I'm
excited
about
and
why.
A
H
Sure
so,
at
the
state
level,
I
sit
on
the
house
urban
affairs
committee,
which
premier
primarily
deals
with
housing
issues.
So
a
lot
of
the
policy
that
we
draft
is
related
to
housing,
justice
and
the
creation
of
more
affordable
housing.
Tenants
rights
and
the
like
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
at
the
state
level
is
called
fair
funding,
that's
run
through
phfa,
and
it's
that
pot
of
money
and
the
flexibility
associated
with
it.
G
G
A
My
turn,
thank
you.
First,
let
me
thank
you
both
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
to
go
through
these
interviews.
I
I
think
for
this
alone.
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
it
and
I've
actually
taken
myself
off
more
boards
than
I
want
that
I
put
myself
on
or
want
to
be
on,
but
I
do
have,
as
you
know,
kyle
a
lot
of
concerns
about
west
pittsburgh,
and
I
hear
the
comments
for
south
pittsburgh
and
she
wants
to
say
we're
not
synonymous
with
south
pittsburgh.
A
We
have
our
own
independent
views
and,
and
things
we'd
like
to
see
we're
17
neighborhoods
and
everyone
they're,
all
so
different
and
and
independent
of
their
own
of
my
own
district.
So
on
their
own,
they
all
want
something
different
westwood
and
banksville
they're
begging,
for
you
know
big
big
name
developments
that
are
names
that
you've
heard
of,
and
is
it
that
and
and
other
parts
of
my
district
are
begging
for
independent
small
businesses.
A
So
it
just
depends
where
you
are
and
what
they're
begging
for
and
and
what
they'd
like
to
see
and
honestly,
one
of
the
things
I
keep
hearing
us
talking
about
is
stabilizing
and
making
sure
we're
investing
in
neighborhoods
that
have
not
been
invested
in,
but
part
of
the
reason
they've
not
been
invested
is
because
we're
doing
exactly
what
we're
doing
what
we've
done.
What
we're
doing
now
is
what
we
have
done
over
the
years
as
we
disinvest
in
neighborhoods
that
are
stable.
H
A
So,
instead
of
making
sure
we're
maintaining
stability,
we
always
let
the
neighborhood
fall
apart
and
then
build
it
back
up,
fall
apart
and
then
put
build
it
back,
and
then
people
were
pushed
out
and
moved
into
a
different
neighborhood
by
that
point.
They've
already
left
their
neighborhood
or
have
been
pushed
out,
and
I
just
wish
that
we
would
get
the
idea
that
maybe
a
little
bit
of
investment
here
and
there
makes
it
can
go
a
long
way.
And
so
that's.
A
So
I've
talked
to
the
administration
about
restructuring
the
board
and
doing
different
things,
and
I
I
feel
confident
that
they,
you
know,
would
like
to
work
with
us
on
that
and
getting
people
on
here.
But
in
the
meantime
my
biggest
thing
is.
I
take
people
for
tours.
I
show
you
my
district,
ask
you
what
you'll
you
know
that
you'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
to
know
our
our
area.
A
I
think
a
lot
of
people
meet
people,
they
think
they're
the
voice
for
our
area
and
they
have
no
clue
because
they're
from
the
east
end,
you
know
what
people
really
want.
So
I
mean
I
came
from
the
east
end.
So
it's
nothing
about
the
east
end.
I
love
the
east
end.
I
was
born
and
raised
on
fifth
avenue.
So
am
I
up
until
two
years
ago
my
family
lived
there,
but
before
that
they're
from
wally
avenue
in
the
hill,
so
I
value
that
area
and
I
value
them.
A
So
I
think
that
when
I
hear
everybody
has
like
an
idea
of
what
development
should
be,
it
kind
of
concerns
me
because
what
you
think
development
should
be
is
what
you're
basing
off
of
what
you
see
and
what
you
live,
and
so
for
I
just
want
to
say
for
our
side
of
town.
It
may
be
very
different
for
southwest
pittsburgh.
It
may
be
very
different
than
what
it
is
and
maybe
different
from
the
west
in
the
south
business
in
the
south.
A
They
may
have
differences,
so
I
just
ask
that
you
I'm
going
to
schedule
a
tour.
I
hope
that
you'll
come
with
me
and
join
me
on
a
tour
I'll,
take
you
out
and
have
a
good
time,
but
I
I
also
I
just
can't
help
but
notice
that
a
lot
of
the
people
talking
about
change
and
doing
different
things.
A
lot
of
the
people
that
we
interviewed
today
are
from
the
previous
administration
peduto
administration.
F
The
spot,
no,
no,
no
yeah.
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
tour
your
neighborhood,
you
know
at
any
point.
You
know
that
party
in
the
west
end,
okay
and
I
apologize
for
for
no
longer
living
in
beach
view
and
being
south
of
the
river
yeah
we'll
talk.
We
can
talk
about
that
more
some
other
time,
but
I
mean
I
I
think
you
know
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
direct
answer.
You
know
to
your
question
as
much
as
you
know.
F
I
think
we're
we're
at
a
point
right
where,
where
we
do
need
to
engage,
you
know
at
a
level
differently
and
that
to
my
comment
earlier,
like
the
type
of
of
intervention
and
the
scale
of
intervention
in
in
to
even
just
what
you
were
saying
in
banksville
right
is
going
to
be
different
than
it
is
in
charity.
Right,
like
the
the
main
street,
the
commercial
district
in
banksville
is
box,
retail
on
a
vehicular
artery
that
residents
use
regularly
right
and
then
shared,
and
you
have
more
of
a
main
street
kind
of
feel.
F
H
F
It's
it's
touch
and
goes
it
relates
to
covid
and
and
what
it
could
mean
and
sort
of
how
we
shape
this
going
forward.
There's
a
level
of
import
that
you
know
gets
me
excited
about
the
work,
and
certainly,
I
think,
brings
a
level
of
soberness
in
in
the
way
that
we
approach
it.
So
now,
that's
not
a
direct
answer
to
your
question,
but
you
know
that
is
what
drew
me
back,
and
you
know
the
the
vision
that's
laid
forth
and
how
we
kind
of
balance.
A
And
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you,
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
going
forward
that
you
know
you
remember
you're
there
to
serve
the
people
not
to
serve
an
administration
or
a
council,
or
you
know
we're
there
to
serve
the
people,
and
I
think
that
different
people
have
different
opinions
and
whether
we
agree
with
them
or
not.
We
represent
them
and
so
like
in
mount
washington.
They
want
there's
a
developer
that
came,
he
wants
to
develop.
Finally,
the
pit
and
on
grand
view-
and
I
mean
they've-
been
waiting
for
decades.
A
For
that
I
mean
long
before
I
was
elected
and
he
wants
to
put
all
upscale
housing.
Well,
I
think
you
know
it
depends
what
the
community
says,
but
he
may
know
he
may
want
that,
and
that
may
be
what
they
want
and
that's
what
they
want.
That's
what
I
want
them
to
have,
but
I
also
don't
want
us
to
forget
that
there's
behind
grandview
avenue
there's
a
lot
of
poverty,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
the
needs
behind
green
view
avenue
as
much
as
we
are
on
grandview
avenue
too.
H
A
A
H
H
The
eviction
prevention
cohort
our
office
does
actively
participate
in
that
discussion
around
creating
a
more
safe,
stable
environment
for
our
tenants
in
pittsburgh,
because
we
know
that
you
know
home
ownership
is
great
and
something
we
should
have
encourage
people
to
aspire
to,
but
also
long-term
renters
are
are
an
asset
to
our
communities
as
well.
So
we
do
need
to
think
about
stabilization
in
that
that
manner.
What
I
bring
to
the
ura
board
is
my
connections
to
the
state
house.
H
A
set
of
roles,
but
to
unlock
legislative
tools
that
you
could
use
in
different
parts
of
the
city
depending
on
what
the
need
is
of
that
neighborhood
and
that's
something
that
you
know
I
love
that's
getting
stressed
in
this
conversation-
is
that
it
is
development
is
not
a
one.
Size
fits
all
for
the
neighborhoods
of
the
city.
It
really
is
unique
to
that
space
and
really
does
require
the
input
and
the
voices
of
the
residents
that
live
there.
A
Thank
you.
I
love
that
answer,
but
and
can't
wait
to
take
you
on
a
tour,
but
I
have
to
be
honest.
I
was
advocating.
I
said
you
know
we
have
representatives
from
the
state
in
the
west
end.
You
could
put
one
of
them
on
on
the
board,
because
I
wanted
somebody
southwest
of
the
river
on
the
on
the
board,
but
I
have
a
feeling
you're
going
to
fight
for
us
really
hard
too.
So.
H
F
F
Working
in
pittsburgh,
I've
been
fortunate
to
work
in
a
number
of
different
neighborhoods,
whether
that
was
through
phdc
and
work
that
we've
done.
You
know
in
in
the
west
end
to
larger
projects.
You
know
in
the
east,
to
you
know,
working
on,
I
can
remember
councilman
kaga
when
we
toured
to
get
the
1600
broadway
property
right
under
control
and
moving
those
things
forward.
So
I
I
enjoy
that
ability
to
to
kind
of
work
at
that
neighborhood
scale,
project
tactical
level,
and
then
you
know
to
echo
some
of
what
representative
immorado
said.
F
F
You
know
policies
that
the
ura
adopts
the
way
that
the
board
thinks
about
the
decisions
that
we
make
the
investments
that
we
make,
and
you
know
how
we're
using
those
as
leverage
points
to
deliver
things
that
the
community
wants
to
see,
and
we
do
that
through
listening.
You
know,
I'm
always
happy
to
go
and
tour
the
neighborhoods,
that's
some
of
the
best
part
of
the
the
job
and,
and
you
know
getting
to
go
to
community
meetings
and
having
those
experiences.
F
Certainly
in
the
last
three
years,
you
know
is
one
of
the
things
that
I've
missed
the
most
about
not
being
in
city
government.
So
I'm
excited
to
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
engage
again.
You
know,
I
think,
at
a
high
level,
having
sort
of
that
balance
of
technical
knowledge
and
background,
but-
and
I
like
to
think
an
ability
to
sort
of
he
see
and
hear
all
sides
of
things
and
how
we
approach
and
structure
you
know,
agreements
and
projects
etc.
F
A
I'm
curious
if
city
of
pittsburgh
would
annex
to
wilkinsburg
I'm
curious
about
this,
because
you
know
we
struggle
to
get
our
share
on
our
side
of
town
now,
so
we
hear
that
they
want
to
increase.
You
know
the
development
in
wilkinsburg.
What
happens
to
our
sites?
Are
we
going
to
be
fighting
for
those
dollars,
or
is
somebody
going
to
be
advocating
or
putting
a
plan
in
place
to
make
sure
southwest?
A
B
A
Not
seeing
any
return
on
our
investment,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
part
of
that
equation,
and
you
know-
and
I
also
worry
about
the
people
of
wilkinsburg-
they
mean
they
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
not
pushed
out
of
their
homes,
and
so
I
want
to
know
how
the
you,
I
hope
that
the
ura
and
you'll
both
advocate
for
the
ura
to
have
a
plan
in
place
to
address
both
of
those
issues
because
nobody
wants
to
be.
You
know,
collateral
damage
for
somebody
else's.
F
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
what
you
just
said
there,
madam
president,
about
developing
a
plan
is
spot
on
right.
I
it's
week
three
for
me
as
well
back
here,
so
in
terms
of
the
conversations
related
to
the
annex,
you
know
annexation
and
and
where
things
stand
now,
on
sort
of
a
merger
conversation
aside
from
what's
been
reported
in
the
press,
I'm
not
sort
of
up
to
speed.
So
I
apologize.
I
can't
sort
of
speak
to.
F
I
can't
speak
to
the
specifics,
but
what
I
would
say
is,
I
think,
committing
to
to
developing
a
plan
along
the
lines
of
what
you're
saying
you
know
and
how
that
you
know
impacts.
The
thinking
is
appropriate.
You
know
it
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
both
from
the
standpoint
of
what
the
residents
of
wilkinsburg
you
know
want
insurances
towards
as
well
as
you
know,
the
broader
impacts
you
know
across
the
city,
but
yeah.
F
A
E
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
want
to
make
clear.
I
supported
the
wilkinsburg
annexation
and
I
still
do,
but
I
do
have
the
same
concerns
that
president
kill
smith
does.
I
do
not
want
resources,
you
know
flooding
into
if
we
do
decide
next
year
to
annex
with
wilkinsburg,
I
am
definitely
concerned
about
losing
resources
to
that
neighborhood.
E
Obviously
the
ura
will
need
and
probably
want
to
play
a
part
in
there,
but
by
all
means
not
by
you
know
forgetting
about
southwest
of
the
rivers
and
it's
not
even
forgetting
about
it's
getting
involved
in
southwestern
rivers,
and
you
know
you
and
I
were
involved
kyle,
what's,
like
you
said,
1600
broadway
and
other
projects,
I'm
very
happy
with
the
way
the
ura
worked
with
me
in
the
past
and
and
I'll
say
in
closing.
You
know
you
both
meet
the
highest
criteria.
E
For
me,
you
both
seem
genuinely
excited
and
want
to
be
here,
and
I
think
you
both
bring.
Obviously,
you
know
representative
amarado,
your
your
work
in
the
housing
field
is
certainly
going
to
be
a
big
asset
to
the
ura
and
moving
forward.
So
now
your
knowledge
of
you
know
my
neighborhood
and
others
and
looking
at
the
small
business
and
districts-
and
you
know
beach
views,
you
know
one
block
of
south
side,
so
the
impact
we
can
have
there
overnight
and
we
already
have
and
we're
you've
seen.
E
You
know
it's
moving
in
the
right
direction.
So
so
I
love
both
of
your
you
know.
Excitement
of
being
here
that
to
me,
is
a
top
qual
quality,
it's
impossible
to
gauge.
As
to
you
know
what
different
aspects
there's
so
many
with
with
the
ura,
but
I'm
confident
that
you'll
both
do
very
well
and
whatever
ones
you
proceed
with
thanks.
Thank.
F
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
say:
maybe
we'll
get
david
geiger
just
to
schedule
a
tour
of
southwest
pittsburgh
for
all
of
your
abort,
because
I
mean
I
think
everyone
could
use.
I
think
the
last
person
there
was
sam
williamson
and
I
think,
everybody's
always
amazed
and
sheridan
I'd
love
to
take
you
to
see
this
representative
and
sheridan.
We
have
it's
called
sheridan
park,
co-op,
that's
a
housing
co-op
and
it's
amazing.
I
mean
it
is
amazing.
A
I
remember
when
I
took
somebody
there
for
a
tour
once
they're
like
is
this
chatham
village.
I
said
except
for
these
homes
or
go
for
thirty
thousand
dollars.
So
there's
the
big
difference
you
know
between
between
the
price
and
it's
amazing
well
maintained
low
crime,
it's
and
yet
it's
in
the
middle
of
sheridan
and
people
don't
even
know
anything
about
it.
A
So
I'd
love
to
take
you
to
see
all
that
and
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
that
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
to
be
honest
with
you
and
and
then
sheridan
when
and
I
and
I'm
always
so
cautious.
I
was
just
saying
that
we're
really
cautious
about
housing
when
you
come
to
talk
about
housing
in
our
district
and
especially
in
sheridan,
because
I
and
I
bring
this
up
because
I
want
people
to
realize
how
sensitive
people
are
because
people
went
to
jail.
A
You
know
for
what
happened
in
sheridan
in
terms
of
the
housing,
and
so
when
I
say
that
they're
jaded,
they
have
reason
to
be.
You
know
they
have
reason
to
doubt
us
they
don't
trust
government.
They
don't
trust
us
being
involved.
If
we
even
say
the
word
housing,
they
don't
like
it.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
in
tune
to
that
that
sensitivity
and
that
history
that
they
they
lived
through.
For
me,
I
talk
all
the
time.
I
don't
wanna
see
people
pushed
out
of
the
house.
A
A
She
was
dislocated
when
they
built
the
arena
and
to
this
day
it's
still
something
she
talks
about
that's
100
years
old.
It
has
over
60,
I
think
about
65
years
ago,
but
so
it's
really
impactful.
You
know
what
you
do
to
people,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what's
right
in
that
regard.
So
with
that
said,
I'd
love
to
take
you
on
the
tour
and
we'll
see
see
what
you
think
good.