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A
Welcome
to
the
pre-agenda
for
wednesday
february
9th
2022..
We
have
one
appointment
for
today
for
consideration
and
we
are
waiting
for
a
quorum,
we're
good
okay
and
can
we
begin
we're
going
to
begin,
and
I
want
to
say,
welcome
to
lee
schmidt,
who
has
been
the
acting
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety.
I
am
joined
today
by
councilwoman,
erica,
strasberger
and
councilman
bobby
wilson.
Will
the
clerk
please
read
the
title
of
the
bill.
A
D
D
I've
been
with
the
city
for
five
years
now
I
started
in
the
department
of
public
safety
five
years
ago
as
the
business
administrator
for
the
police
bureau
about
two
years
ago,
I
got
promoted
to
assistant
director
of
operations
under
director
historic
public
safety,
also
months
after
that
about
six
months
after
that
took
on
the
role
of
assistant
director
of
administration
and
operations,
both
and
continued
that
until
director,
his
retreat
resigned
in
the
with
the
change
in
administration.
D
My
time
prior
to
the
city,
I
worked
as
a
full-time
medic
for
a
full-time
ems
agency.
In
the
suburbs
of
allegheny
county
known
as
westier
township
out,
there
was
also
a
member
of
the
planning
commission
parks
and
recreation
I've
had
for
I,
and
I
worked
there
for
20
years,
that
was
a
full-time
24
7
ems
agency,
all
full
staffed
initially
was
volunteer
for
the
first
three
years.
I
was
there
and
then
transitioned
to
a
full
paid
ems
agency.
D
Throughout
my
time,
in
public
safety,
I've
always
enjoyed
serving
the
public
and
serving
my
community.
In
this
role,
I
feel
like
the
public
safety
director's
position
is
to
help
coordinate
both
internally
with
our
bureaus
under
public
safety,
as
well
as
the
other
departments
within
the
city
as
well
as
community
groups
throughout
the
city.
D
I
have
a
big
focus
on
customer
service.
I
always
have-
and
I
believe
that's
a
key
in
government
is:
we
need
to
provide
good
customer
service
to
the
people
we
serve,
and
that
includes
listening
to
what
they
want.
What
they're
asking
for
having
conversations,
sometimes
hard
conversations
with
community
members
and
realizing
that
it
looks
very
different
for
everyone
from
neighborhoods
and
neighborhoods,
even
block
by
block
what
they're
asking
for
from
the
city.
What
they're
asking
for
from
public
safety
can
be
very
different.
D
My
visions
and
policy
thoughts
are
around
accountability,
accountability
for
everyone.
That
means-
and
it
doesn't
mean
discipline-
doesn't
mean
focusing
on
all
the
bad
things.
It
means
people
being
comfortable
to
admitting
their
faults,
admitting
their
mistakes
owning
up
to
them
and
working
together
with
those
in
command
with
the
city
and
policy
makers
to
improve
that
to
reduce
the
mistakes,
stop
them
from
happening
again
or
reoccurring.
D
D
Nobody
has
to
win.
It
just
has
to
be
what
we
can
do
with
what's
best
for
everyone.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments,
we'll
begin
with
councilman
coghill.
E
Okay,
welcome,
mr
schmidt,
so
I
you
know
really.
My
thing
that's
most
concerning
to
me
is
the
recruiting
lack
of
recruiting
classes
with
the
police
department.
You
probably
know
these
numbers,
but
as
of
tomorrow
we
could
lose
up
to
250
police
officers
if
they
so
choose
to
retire.
E
We
haven't
had
a
recruiting
class,
I
believe
for
two
years
now.
I
don't
know
how
many
police
officers
we
have
on
the
streets
as
it
is,
but
I'm
just
concerned
that
that
level
is
going
to
go
way
down
over
the
next
couple
years,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
recruiting
class
this
year.
So
can
you
speak
to
that
at
all.
D
Sure
I
I
know
the
recruiting
class
is
budgeted.
I've
been
talking
with
the
administration
about
the
need
for
a
class,
and
I
think
we
are
working
how
we
can
best
make
that
happen.
We
obviously
have
you
know
everyone
has
concerns,
and
it's
been
a
concern
for
a
number
of
years
about
the
diversity
in
our
recruitment
efforts.
What
can
we
do
to
improve
that?
I
do
believe
we're
all
an
agreement
that
we
need
to
have.
D
A
vision
of
that
and
get
that
in
place
before
we
proceed,
but
we
also
understand
there
is
a
need
for
a.
D
D
Right
now
we
are
under
900.
We
had
a
retirement
yesterday,
I
want
to
say
we're
like
8
95
somewhere
right
around
there.
It's.
D
Based
on
some
previous
staffing
studies,
but
it's
been
a
number
of
years
since
that's
happened:
900
is
what
they
had
come
up
with.
Then
I
know
what
I've
been
suggesting
and
it
is
budgeted
for
a
staffing
study
for
this
year
to
have
that
happen.
So
we
are
working
through
that
and
I
think
a
staffing
study
and
modern
staffing
study
would
help
evaluate
our
needs
based
on
current
demand
and
current
status
first
10
years
ago,.
E
D
If
they're
brand
new
and
never
been
have
never
been
an
officer
you're
talking
about
11
months
from
the
time,
they
start
the
academy
until
the
time
they
are
completely
off
of
field
training
and
considered
able
to
work.
You
know
on
their
own.
E
Yeah,
so
we
have
say
eight
ninety
five
now
yeah
so
we'll
be
we're
looking
at
least
a
year
before
we
can
put
anybody
else
on
the
force.
You
know
how
many
are
scheduled.
I
mean
I
know,
there's
250
or
so
that
can
retire.
E
So
that's
my
concern
director.
You
know
it's
it's
about
the
amount
of
police
officers
that
we
have
now
and
the
ones
that
we're
going
to
lose
throughout
until
we
get
newly
trained
officers
on
the
street.
Now,
if
we
have
a
recruitment
class,
is
that
this
year
it's
budgeted,
I
know,
but
so
we're
going
to
proceed,
hopefully
get
a
new
recruiting
class
this
year.
D
Yeah,
like
I
said,
we
we're
taught
the
chief
and
I
have
been
talking
with
the
administration
talking
about
what
that
looked
like
looks
like,
and
what
how
we
can
make
it
move
forward.
E
It's
very
possible
that
we
dip
over
the
next
year
and
a
half
I
would
think
before
we
actually
train
and
get
police
officers
on
the
force.
Since
we
haven't
even
started
the
recruiting
class
and
factor
in
the
11
months.
It
takes
there
it's
very
possible.
We
could
go
down
to
700
officers
at
that
point
and
we
will
be
very
severely
understaffed.
I
think.
D
Yeah
when,
when
I
started
five
years
ago,
we
were
below
800
and
then
two
years
ago
we
were
right
about
a
thousand,
so
it
can
fluctuate
a
lot
in
just
a
matter
of.
D
No,
they
still
have
some
recruitment
diversity
concerns.
Sure.
F
E
Okay,
good
job
in
the
bridge
collapse,
you
know
addressing
the
media,
I
was
watching
you
closely.
I
thought
you
handled
it
with
poison
as
good
as
you
can
in
that
situation.
So
those
were
my
concerns.
Madam
president,
thank
you.
Councilman.
G
Councilwoman
strasberger.
Thank
you,
madam
president.
Thank
you,
mr
schmidt,
for
being
here
today
for
answering
our
questions.
I
can
see
that
you've
been
dedicated
to
public
service
since
kind
of
civil
service
for
a
long
time
now
I'm
curious
what
drove
you
to
make
the
jump
to
paramedic
initially,
why
did
you
seek?
You
know
ems
and
kind
of
paramedic
as
a
as
a
vocation,
initially.
D
I
I
don't
I'm
not
quite
sure
friends.
Actually
I.
E
D
Some
friends
that
were
on
the
ambulance,
service
or
ems
agency
volunteers,
that
was,
you
know
back
in
1996
and
they
kind
of
talked
me
into
going
to
an
emt
class,
and
I
I
just
really
enjoyed
it.
You
know
I
have
experience,
I'm
an
eagle
scout.
I
was
in
scouts
for
20
years
of
my
life
and
then
again
as
a
leader
once
my
kids
were
in
cub
scouts,
so
I've
just
always
enjoyed
helping
people
and
trying
to
make
the
world
a
little
better.
D
G
G
So
I'm
glad
that
that's
your
background,
I'm
I'm
curious
about
your
sort
of
philosophy
and
obviously
so
much
of
this
flows
from
the
direction
and
vision
of
the
mayor,
but
your
philosophy
around
the
balance,
that's
necessary
right
now
in
public
safety
between
you
know,
as
you
said,
calls
from
the
community,
but
calls
from
different
communities
are
different
and
also
even
within
communities
are
sometimes
conflicting.
G
I
heard
an
interview
with
a
representative
from
a
community
group
in
knoxville
yesterday
who
is
saying
we
both
get.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
public
safety,
but
I
think
she
was
primarily
talking
about
police.
She
was
saying
we
get
both
too
much
attention
and
not
enough
attention
right
and
so
there's
just
such
a
balance.
G
Right
now,
when
it
comes
to
creating
a
vision
for
public
safety,
where
people
feel
like
public
safety
is
there
for
everyone,
keeping
staff
morale
up,
keeping
people
wanting
to
work
for
different
bureaus
of
public
safety-
and
you
know
probably
having
many
different
type
kinds
of
bosses
from
all
of
us
to
the
mayor
to
other
people
who
are
sort
of
asking
you
to
do
various
things
and
pulling
you
in
different
directions.
G
D
Yeah
I
do
with
my
years,
you
know
working
with
other
folks,
working
alongside
police
and
fire
and
other
ems
agencies,
and
even
just
city
morale
can
be
tough.
It's
not
an
easy
job
and
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
in
it.
I
I've
mentioned
this
to
other
folks,
I
think
from
my
position
and
maybe
even
some
of
the
chiefs.
We
need
to
focus
on
our
people
and
when
I
see
the
people
I
mean
the
people
that
work
for
us,
as
well
as
the
people
that
we
serve
and
let.
D
Let
the
providers
and
let
the
first
responders,
do
their
job
to
the
best
of
their
ability
and
we're
there
to
support
them.
So
that
means
also
providing
them
the
support
they
need.
A
first
responder
can
see
things
that
nobody
wants
to
see
that
impacts
them,
even
if
they
don't
want
to
believe
it
at
the
time
it
can.
D
D
They
should
feel
comfortable
enough
with
their
supervisor
to
say
I'm
having
a
really
bad
day.
I
probably
shouldn't
be
interacting
with
somebody
today
and
that
might
be
a
hard
conversation
to
have,
but
those
are
conversations
we
need
need
to
have
from
the
public
standpoint.
I
think
we
need
to
have
similar
conversations
sit
down.
Look
at
community
members
that
might
be
disenchanted
with
public
safety,
not
supportive
and
sit
down
and
ask
them
why
they're
not
and
sit
down.
D
As
you
know,
fellow
humans
and
just
kind
of
talk
through
things
and
see
each
other
as
people
that
are
all
just
trying
to
get
along-
and
I
know
some
of
that
sounds
a
little
high
in
the
sky.
Maybe,
but
I
do
believe
conversations
can
bring
people
together
and
understanding
is
a
lot
of
it.
You
know
maybe
just
having
open
conversations
to
say
this
is
why
we
respond
in
this
manner.
D
This
is
why
we
don't
respond
in
this
manner.
You
know
some
people,
as
you
said,
some
people
want
the
police
there
right
away
and
we
can't
be
there
right
away
for
certain
things
and
other
people
don't
want
the
police
there
at
all,
but
we
need
to
be
there.
So
it's
a
matter
of
sitting
down
and
explaining
things
and
talking
to
people
getting
the
right.
People
in
the
right
place.
D
There's
a
book
that
in
leadership
called
team
of
teams.
It's
actually
from
crystal
was
the
author,
but
it's
basically
about
putting
the
right
people
in
the
right
place
and
empowering
them
to
do
those
things.
So
you
have
police
officers
that
are
subject
matter
experts
in
different
things.
You
can't
you
know:
we
have
2
000
public
safety
staff
members,
the
public
safety
director.
I
can't
do
all
their
jobs
and
I
shouldn't
be
trying
to
do
their
jobs,
I'm
supposed
to
be
supporting
them,
working
with
council
working
with
the
mayor's
office.
D
So
we
empower
the
people
that
are
the
subject
matter,
experts
and
that
have
passion
for
different
things
and
so
find
the
people
that
have
the
passion
to
interact
with
the
community
and
get
them
interacting.
Have
them
teach
their
peers,
how
to
better
interact
with
the
community,
be
spokespeople
in
liaisons,
very
I'm
getting
a
little
long-winded.
But
that's
basically,
you
know
my
thoughts
and
philosophy.
G
That's
really
great
to
hear
what
really
struck
me
about
that
is
empowering
leaders
within
in
subject
matter,
experts
that
you
know
have
a
passion
for
that
for
that
area
and
really
empowering
them.
It
makes
me
think
of
air
traffic
controllers
as
an
industry
have
a
zero
shame
policy,
because
their
work,
their
life
and
their
work
is
so
much
about
life
and
death
that
there's
no
room
for
error.
But
if
you
make
a
mistake
there
can't
you
can't
be
shamed
for
making
a
mistake.
G
You
have
to
come
forward,
so
you
know
how
to
fix
it,
and
it
sounds
like
it's
a
similar
philosophy
that
you
carry
within
this
this
department,
which
is
really
important,
and
I
actually
think
the
work
inside
the
department
can
then
translate
to
work
outside
the
department
as
well
and
the
relationship
to
to
folks
in
the
community
too.
So
it's
great
to
hear,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
I'll.
Let
others
ask
some
questions
as
well.
Thank
you.
H
Hey
good
morning,
good
morning,
I'm
sorry
no,
who
was
performing
come
on.
No!
No!
No!
Please!
You
go
ahead.
No
good.
I
Well,
welcome
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
I
I
think
we
know
we
spoke
plenty
of
times
about
most
of
my
concerns
and
I'll
just
kind
of
reiterate
him
here,
I
think,
being
that
a
community
meeting
I
had
last
night
kind
of
highlights
some
of
my
concerns
not
with
you
just
the
future
of
public
safety
police,
do
a
phenomenal
job,
major
crimes.
You
know
they're
doing
their
job.
It's
a
serious
situation
should
never
happen.
You
know
we
keep
guns
off
the
street.
I
But
in
a
meeting
last
night
that
I
have
with
the
community
group,
you
know
a
great
working
relationship
with
zone
one.
They
come
a
lot
of
car
break-ins.
You
know
so
a
lot
of
I'm
not
sure
what
that
you
know
it's
not
a
major
crime
and
that's
something
that
they
they
handle
and
they're
given
advice.
But
then
the
topic
quickly
goes
to
you
know
not
crimes.
I
Okay,
I
hear
you,
people
are
struggling
right
now
they
are
outside
and
you
know
I
couldn't
imagine
what
that
person's
going
through.
That
has
to
seek
shelter
outside
when
it's
nine
degrees
out
and
I'm
able
to
report
back
saying
that
they're
housed,
because
of
a
program
that
we've
implemented
here
and
we're
working
with
the
public
health
system
to
really
work
with
people
and-
and-
and
you
know
so-
the
conversation
is
kind
of
overrided
by
that,
and
it's
something
that
you
know
I'd
like
to
just
hear
from
you.
I
You
know
how
we
plan
to
continue
to
strengthen
this
this.
You
know
this,
this
team,
that
we,
essentially
you
know,
contract
with
to
you,
know,
to
support
public
safety
in
a
lot
of
ways
because
a
lot
of
people
you
know
in
the
past,
they
they
would
have
reached
out
to
public
safety.
For
this
mostly
and
people,
I
still
think
they
still,
they
still
feel
like.
They
should
do
that,
and
so
I
just
want
to
understand.
You
know,
because
that
is
a
big
I
mean.
I
Would
you
say
that
is
a
big
bulk
of
concern?
The
community
has
just
circling
around
whether
it's
drug
use,
whether
it's
people
outside
you
know
you
know.
How
are
we
gonna?
You
know
change
the
the
tone
of
the
conversation
with
the
public,
and
and
how
do
we
tell
them
what
we're
doing
about
it.
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
would
agree
that
you
know
people
reach
out
to
public
safety,
about
homelessness,
about
drug
use,
about
a
lot
of
things.
Mental.
I
D
Right,
public
safety
is
essentially
the
boots
on
the
ground,
the
eyes
and
ears
for
the
city,
because
they're
the
out
there
and
the
most
prevalent.
So
they
see
a
lot
of
things.
There's
challenges
that
happen
with
that.
I'm
sure
you
know
you're
familiar
with
them
and
that's
why
I
say
this
is
when
you
know
hn
is
the
program
is
a
good
example
of
a
public
private
venture
that
we
can
work
to
defer
people
to
them
a
lead
program.
D
You
know,
law
enforcement,
assisted
diversion,
can
assist
it's
a
matter
of
working
cooperatively
with
other
departments,
even
with
pli
with
domi.
You
know.
The
office
of
community
health
and
safety
currently
is
work
overseas,
the
ahn
program
and
helps
with
a
lot
of
that.
D
We
do
have
some
officers
that
are
very
passionate
again
about
homelessness
and
addressing
those
things
it's
a
matter
of
getting
the
right
people
in
the
right
place,
so
getting
officers
that
are
interested
in
homelessness
and
interested
in
helping
working
with
the
ahn
team,
so
everybody's
safe.
So
then
they're
comfortable,
referring
up
and
down
the
chain
figuring
out
what
the
hurdles
are
and
the
concerns
are.
You
know.
Korea
is
always
an
issue
that
is
brought
up,
which
is
a
state
act
about
criminal
history,
information
and
security
of
that
information.
I
Yeah,
I
guess
my
you
know
to
just
make
my
kind
of
concern.
Clear
is
just
yeah
as
we
move
forward
with
all
entities
where
you'll
be
overseeing
ems
fire
police,
animal
control.
You
know
all
these
different
entities.
How
do
we
you
know?
How
are
we
gonna
make
it
known
that
that
this
is
I
mean,
if
you're
on
board,
with
it
like?
How
are
we
gonna
make
it
known
to
all
those
departments
that
you
know
we're
we're
gonna?
You
know,
try
and
incorporate
this
as
much
as
possible.
D
We
already
have
a
liaison
from
fire
police,
a
couple
from
police
and
ems
on
the
ochs
team,
working
with
ochs
on
a
daily
basis
and
they're,
essentially
the
what
I
feel
are
the
people
that
are
going
to
get
out
there
to
the
other
providers
to
say:
hey
this
program
can
help
us
a
lot
show
that
it's
making
a
difference
helping.
You
know,
ems
to
not
have
repetitive
high
utilizer
patients,
because
you
get
those
patients
that
have
help
they
need
same
with
police.
D
You
know
the
dr
in
police
and
ems
fire,
all
of
them
deal
with
drug
overdoses
and
drug
abuse,
helping
get
people
the
things
they
need,
and
we
do
need
some
statistics.
We
need
some
data
to
support
it
as
well.
I
think
our
crime
analysts
do
a
great
job
of
that.
D
We
probably
need
some
other
analysts
within
public
safety
to
help
support
data,
to
show
that,
because
we
can
say
that
we're
making
a
difference,
but
unless
we
really
have
the
data
to
back
it
up,
how
do
we
know
we're
making
a
difference
and
where
aren't
we
making
a
difference?
And
data
can
show
us
that.
I
Okay
yeah:
I
just
want
to
get
a
confirmation
that
we're
gonna
be
that
you'll
be
on
board
with
trying
to
you
know
implement.
This
is
as
best
that
it
can
be
implemented.
Yeah.
D
They
don't
want
to
cause
harm
to
anyone.
They
didn't
get
into
this
field
to
do
that
and
they
want
to
work
to
get
people
better,
but
they
don't
have
the
resources
or
the
training
to
do
it.
So
if
they
can
find
someone
else
that
they
can
reach
to
and
make
a
contact
with,
then
that's
where
it
comes
in
and
until
the
ahn
program
until
ochs,
we
didn't
really
have
a
great
system.
I
How
does
that
relationship
work
with
public
safety
director
and,
let's
say
the
chief
of
police
like
well
like?
Do
you
have
the
authority
to
just
like
chain
of
command
direct
them
to
to
you
know
how
we
will
implement
a
program.
D
We
have
the
authority,
but
I
also
don't
know
that
authoritarianism.
It
really
works,
it's
more
about
getting
the
buy-in
and
figuring
out
what
their
concerns
are.
You
know
just
like
legislation,
you
all
pass.
There's
always
you
know
some
people,
this
are
dissenters.
So
what
do
we
do
to
to
talk
to
each
other
about
it?
And
I
think
that's
that's
very
much.
My
approach
is,
if
there's
something
I'm
passionate
about
and
something
I
feel
needs
to
happen.
D
D
What
solution?
Let's,
let's
figure
out
solutions,
not
just
put
up
a
wall
and
say
no
we're
not
going
to
do
this
same
with
just
the
bureaus
in
general.
You
know
I
want
to
make
sure
there's
not
silos
that
they're
not
communicating
with
each
other
or
they're
working
against
each
other
without
even
realizing
it.
Sometimes
it's
just
a
matter
of
communication.
J
I
D
Communication
and
accountability
on
all
fronts,
I
think,
from
top
down,
we
need
to
better
communicate
with
each
other
within
you
know,
within
each
bureau,
as
well
as
between
the
bureaus
and
between
the
other
departments.
D
I
think
we
have
a
good
foundation
here,
built
with
from
passion
and
and
people
that
love
the
job
and
people
that
want
to
make
a
difference,
and
I
think
we
continue
to
grow
on
that,
but
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
working
collaboratively
and
together.
I
Okay,
well,
I'm
definitely
interested
in
a
lot
of
what
you've
been
saying
in
terms
of
especially
like
how
you
utilize
the
system,
you
know
just
bring
that
to
light,
and
really
maybe
you
know
one
day
come
into
a
solution
for
overdose
prevention
or
overdose
response
really
actually
overdose
response.
I
So
so
I
I'm
just
curious
on
on
sorry.
I
just.
I
Just
had
a
just
a
question
about
that
and
then
I'll
be
done.
Basically
it's
just.
You
know
what
the
overdose
crisis
right
now
you
know
you
see
just
just
the
other
day.
There
was
a
willow
council
to
you
know,
have
the
the
board
of
health
look
at
in
their
next
meeting.
So
I
think,
that's
in
march
to
look
at
the
city
pittsburgh
becoming
a
a
nato
exchange
site.
D
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
we've
done
a
lot
with
the
narcan
program.
Our
ems
is
currently
doing
the
buprenorphine
pilot
and
that
that's
getting
expanded
already,
and
you
know
working
with
ochs.
That
program
started
up
which
allows
our
ems
folks
to
provide
medication
that
helps
withdrawal
symptoms
for
people
that
are
in
you
know,
addiction.
D
And
I
think
it
continued
to
be
expanded.
The
needle
exchanges
they've
done
them
successfully
in
other
areas.
I
think
out
of
the
box
thinking
you
know
continuing
to
do
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again
doesn't
work.
So
what
can
we
do?
Who
do
we
need
to
bring
in,
and
that's
kind
of
where
my
team
and
teams
philosophy?
Maybe
we
need
to
talk
to
former
addicts
and
bring
them
in
and
talk
to
police
ems
give
them
a
better
understanding
of
what
those
patients
are
going
through,
and
even
people
advocates
general
public.
D
You
know
to
help
them
understand
that
addiction
of
all
different
sorts
can
be
challenging
for
anyone,
whether
it's
gambling
and
drugs,
not
that
I'm
saying
that
it's
the
same
as
a
drug
addiction,
but
there's
still
some
of
the
same
psychological
triggers
that
cause
that.
F
J
F
Thank
you
very
much
councilman
cross
and
thank
you,
mr
chair.
H
Good
morning,
thanks
for
being
here
lee
a
confirmation
hearing
for
a
public
safety
director,
we're
not
doing
you
justice
to
bring
you
in
here
and
talk
to
for
an
hour.
This
is
something
we
could
probably
take
two
or.
H
H
Maybe
we
could
host
a
post
agenda
with
the
public
safety
director
at
a
later
date
and
have
a
more
in-depth
discussion
of
you
know:
what's
really
going
on
not
to
hold
up
your
confirmation
in
any
way
or
shape
or
form,
but
just
to
kind
of
drill
down.
My
my
only
question,
I
think
is,
is
really
one
more
of
a
philosophical
nature.
H
The
more
I
engage
with
the
constituents
and
it's
it's
really,
regardless
of
where
they
live,
and
regardless
of
what
their
issue
may
be,
I
think
there's
a
genuine
belief
out
there
that
somehow,
regardless
of
the
problem,
we're
just
going
to
arrest
our
way
out
of
it
and
when
it
comes
to
gun
violence,
especially
my
the
last
year
since
I've
been
here
really
but
the
last
year,
it
has
really
really
ratcheted
up
you're
shaking
your
head,
councilman
and-
and
you
know,
I
spent
probably
an
hour
and
a
half
on
the
phone,
with
a
constituent
the
day
before
yesterday,
trying
to
to
convince
her
that
we
can't
arrest
our
way
out
of
this,
that
there
has
to
be
there.
H
I
say
this
all
the
time
we
plan
for
our
success
and
we
police
our
failures,
and
I
want
I
want
desperately
to
create
this
mindset
throughout
the
city
that
we
manage
success
before
we
police
failure
and
so
just
sort
of
kind
of
curious
about
your
thoughts
about,
and
I
don't
mean
to
limit
public
safety
solely
to
police.
But
right
now,
police
are
living
a
very
challenged
existence
and
very
much
so,
and
I.
H
As
I
may,
I
I
cannot
cannot
break
through
the
wall
of
misinformation
that
the
public
has
held
on
to
that
that
claims
that
we're
going
to
find
a
way
to
arrest
our
way
out
of
problems.
So
can
you
maybe,
on
that
plane,
sort
of
talk
about
not
just
policing
but
public
safety
and
a
very
thoughtful
proactive,
not
reactive,
kind
of
strategy.
D
D
Putting
more
police
into
a
situation
doesn't
necessarily
help
it
either
it's
more
about
proper
planning.
I
mean
you
know
it
in
the
in
the
south
side.
That
can
be
a
challenge
because
of
the
the
structure
and
the
number
of
bars
in
one
location.
D
Our
group
violence,
intervention
folks
get
out
there
and
they
help
and
we
need
the
community
to
help
us.
We
need
the
community
to
work
together.
I
know
the
mayor's
office
has
said
this.
We
can't
fix
everything
without
the
people
helping
us,
so
they
need
to
be
willing
to
come
forward
and
feel
comfortable
coming
forward
when
they
are
concerned
about
something
they
also
need
to
be
willing
to
talk
to
their
neighbors,
and
maybe
the
the
children
in
the
community,
the
youth
in
the
community.
D
D
If
you
do
something
bad
you're
going
to
go
to
jail
and
that's
supposed
to
mean
something,
because
all
that
happens
is
you
go
to
jail
and
then
you
come
back
out,
but
you
you're
not
ready
to
go,
come
back
out
into
the
society
or
into
the
community.
You're,
not
you
don't
have
a
job,
you
don't
have
things
so
then
you
end
up
with
people.
You
know
recidivism.
D
We
need
to
make
sure
we
have
programs
that
help
people
when
they
do
transition
from
being
incarcerated.
So
they
don't
res.
You
know,
go
back
into
that
same
cycle.
The.
H
I
wish
I
wish
more
than
well.
Let
me
let
me
start
by
saying
this:
when
now
president
biden
came
to
pittsburgh
flood
that
labor
day
parade
before
he
officially
announced
a
run
for
president
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
him,
and
he
asked
me
who
I
was
and
what'd.
I
do,
and
I
said
you
know
mr
biden,
I'm
a
I'm
a
city
councilman
and
he
like
reacted
and
sort
of
put
his
hands
up
and
it
was
kind
of
odd
how
he
reacted
and.
K
H
Said
I
have
to
tell
you
something
like
okay,
he
said
I
used
to
be
a
city
councilman.
I
said.
Oh,
my
god,
that's
great.
He
said.
Let
me
tell
you
something
else.
I
said
sure
what
he
said
was
the
hardest
job
I've
ever
had
in
my
life.
I'm
like
sir.
You
want
to
run
for
president
of
the
united
states
and
you're
telling
me
being
a
city
council
person
was
the
hardest
drug
behind
your
life.
He
said
yeah.
H
You
want
to
know
why,
and
I
said
why
is
it
because
everybody
knows
where
you
live
and
I
bring
that
up
to
say
we
are
that
first
point
of
contact
for
the
public
at
large
and
the
conversations
that
I
have
tries
I
may
to
to
broaden
the
scope
of
the
conversation
to
to
talk
about
how
federal
law
affects
us.
How
state
law
affects
us,
how
you
know
we
are
kind
of
sort
of
at
the
last
of
the
food
chain.
H
If
you
will
probably
more
than
anything
else
in
the
last
year,
what
I've
gotten
from
constituents
is.
Why
am
I
not
stopping
gun
violence
and
try,
as
I
may
to
say,
there
are
so
many
systems
that
have
failed
us
before
it
reaches
us,
and
I
need
to
tell
you
about
how
those
systems
have
failed
and
how
we
need
to
correct
those
systems.
To
give
me
the
power
to
be
able
to
help
you.
People
just
don't
want
to
hear
it.
H
They
truly
believe
that
we
alone
as
members
of
council,
we
have
the
the
sole
power
to
to
correct
gun
violence.
Even
when
I
say
things
like
there
are
343
million
handguns
on
the
streets
and
and
no
federal
legislator
or
state
legislator.
That's
willing
to
take
on
how
and
why
these
kinds
of
guns
are
are
permeating
the
culture.
H
My
democratic
state
legislator,
harry
reidshaw,
sponsored
legislation
to
sue
us
for
passing
local
gun
ordinance
and
not
just
to
sue
us,
but
to
give
the
nra
standing
to
sue
us
so
that
we
would
pay
all
legal
fees
involved
in
fines
that
are
involved
for
taking
a
action
on
a
local
level
and
trying
to
explain
that
to
constituency
that
we're
we
are,
we
feel
the
pain.
We
are
really
trying
our
damnedest
to
be
able
to
to
help
help
you
in
this
problem.
H
They,
I
don't
think
they
see
the
bigger
connection
to
other
governmental
agencies
and
how
much
we
need
partnerships
with
those
governmental
agencies
that
to
help
us
do
what
we
need
to
do.
So
I
say
all
that
to
say:
how
do
we
build
better
relationships?
How
do
we,
how
you
know
you
talk
about
communication?
Communication
is
not
just
speaking.
It's
listening,
it's
more
important!
It's
listening
than
it
is
speaking.
H
How
do
we
get
through
to
our
state
and
federal
legislators
and
the
the
kinds
of
pain
and
anguish
that
are
being
inflicted
on
our
citizens
every
single
day
through
gun
violence
and
how
our
hands
are
effectively
tied?
Just
to
stop
the
the
flood
of
guns
that
that
are
at
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
gun,
violence
we're
seeing.
D
It
really
is
not
something
you
can
fix.
I
think
if
we
show
some
data
to
people
and
show
them
what
we've
tried
and
ask
you
know-
and
this
is
where
obviously
council
in
the
mayor's
office
comes
in-
is
working
with
federal
legislatures
state
legislature,
governor's
office,
that
kind
of
thing,
but
we
need
to
provide
you
the
information
that
you
need
to
go
to
them
with
this.
So.
H
When
you
say
this
situation
say
to
me,
what
are
you
going
to
do
about
it?
I
say:
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
it?
It's
it's
the
we,
it's
not
the
I
or
you
it's
us
collectively,
and
that
is
us
as
electeds
our
constituency
as
citizens,
our
local
municipal
government,
in
cooperation
with
our
state
government
and
cooperation
with
our
federal
government.
It
it
takes
all
of
us
right
to
be
able
to
do
and
how
do
we?
You
know.
L
H
Do
we
create
that
kind
of
environment
by
which
people
feel
you
know
the
purpose
of
being
engaged
and
they
find
satisfaction
in
it
and
and
solution?
Ultimately,
I
find
far
too
often
what
I
get
to
do
is
repeat
the
problem,
and
I'm
I
just
sometimes
I
just
feel
like
my
head's
going
to
explode.
I
don't
want
to
repeat
the
problem
again.
I
want
to
talk
about
solution.
What
are
the
ideas
for
solution.
D
I
think
that's
we
just
have
to
have
those
conversations
and-
and,
like
I
said,
sometimes
they're
hard
people
have
a
right
to
own
guns
in
the
country.
We
just
have
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
rid
of
the
ones
that
aren't
legally
using
the
right
way.
H
It
permeates
every
every
every
neighborhood
I
represent
in
the
council
district
in
some
way
shape
or
form
it
takes
different,
shapes
and
sizes
and
happens
at
different
times
of
day
and
night
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
it
affects
every
every
neighborhood
that
I
represent.
H
The
one
that
you're
painfully
aware
of
that
it
affects
in
a
different
kind
of
way
is:
is
the
south
side
and
carson
street
because
far
too
often,
alcohol
is
mixed
with
firearm
and
that
both
are
lethal
combinations
when
when
used
inappropriately
or
illegally,
but
the
combination
of
them
can
be
catastrophic,
they
really
really
can't
be,
and
you
know
we
had
shots
fired
sunday
night
on
on
carson
street
outside
of
flats
again
and
once
again,
it's
a
monday
morning,
my
phone's
ringing
off
the
hook,
people
demanding
what
am
I
going
to
do
to
fix
this,
tell
me
what
am
I
going
to
do
to
fix
this.
H
So
I
I
would,
I
would
generally
love
to
have
a
much
broader
conversation,
that
in
in
fairness
to
you
and
to
us
and
to
the
constituency
where
we
represent
as
it
is
such
you
know,
governments
are
formed,
for
you
know
basic
fundamental
reasons.
You
know
to
turn
the
lights
on,
provide
for
the
the
health
and
safety
peace
and
tranquility
of
the
public
pick
up
the
garbage
with
the
streets.
It's
fundamental
government
and.
H
M
So,
mr
smith,
we
are
grateful
for
your
willingness
to
serve.
Certainly,
I
will
support
your
nomination.
As
I
have
said
publicly,
I
will
support
all
of
the
directors
that
the
administration
collects.
I
believe
that
the
mayor
first
african-american,
mayor
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
deserves
to
assemble
his
team,
and
I
will
be
supportive
of
that
team.
M
I'm
going
to
say
something
backwards
to
go
forward.
I
think
a
different
way,
perhaps
of
looking
at
this
problem.
We
have.
There
are
six
sort
of
ways
or
six
phases
of
how
we
deal
with
crime.
M
M
M
When
you
have
people
who
live
in
absolute
poverty
and
you
don't
build
housing
where
the
schools
are
failing,
where
they
can't
get
employment,
I
mean
it
is
not
surprising
that
they
go
to
the
underground
economy
where
they
can
survive,
so
that
those
those
are
not
your
issues
right,
that's
sort
of
a
broad
base
issue.
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
and
I
hope,
as
you
know,
we've
talked
privately.
M
M
Public
safety
must
include
not
just
the
policing
efforts,
but
the
prevention
efforts
right
right
and,
and
so
that
means
the
the
dvi
the
social
workers
in
in
cars,
the
first
responders
that
may
not
be
police
all
of
those
models
of
dealing
with
the
homelessness
and
in
providing
social
services
to
those
who
are
are
suspected
or
in
high
risk
of
being
both
homicide,
victims
and
homicide
and
and
those
who
use
firearms
right.
M
One
of
the
part
of
the
gvr
model
is
you
go
to
those
those
people
who
are
at
high
risk
of
doing
violence
and
try
to
get
them.
Who've
had
multiple
arrests
in
multiple,
you
know
incidents
and
try
to
get
them
to
turn
their
life
around,
and
so
I
am
hopeful
that
in
the
future,
all
of
those
efforts
will
be
put
under
one
umbrella
and
I'm
gonna.
I've
told
you
this
privately.
I've
told
everyone
who
listened
and
I
could
be
wrong.
It's
just
my
belief.
M
M
I
know
that's
there
may
or
may
not
be
other
other
other
other
positions,
but
I
will
be
working
with
you
and
supporting
that
that
that
coordination.
M
The
theme
of
my
really
work
for
the
next
couple
years
will
be
everything
that
I'm
associated
with.
I
will
advocate
for
it
being
coordinated,
comprehensive
and
collaborative
those
are
sort
of
my
three
pillars:
everything
that
I
I
think
about
whether
it's
housing,
whether
it's
public
safety,
whether
it's
education,
all
the
interventions,
must
be
coordinated,
comprehensive
and
collaborative
in
order
to
have
maximum
impact.
So
again,
I'm
sort
of
making
a
statement
rather
than
ask
questions,
because
I've
already
tied
it
with
you.
You
already
have
my
support.
I
look
forward
to
your
tenure.
M
I've
had
a
close
relationship,
as
you
know,
with
the
last
three
public
safety
directors.
I
was
very
close
with
the
last
three,
and
so
I
hope
to
be
very
close
with
you
work
together,
because
this
problem.
M
Probably
monthly
every
other
month
right,
one
of
my
cars
gets
broken
into
every
other
month
and
if
I
leave
my
door
unlocked,
if
I'm
not
careful
about
locking
my
door
when
I
go
in
the
morning,
you
know
they
trash
my
car
and
looking
for.
Sometimes
I
have
coins.
Sometimes
I
don't
who
knows
you
know
whatever
watches
whatever's
in
there
that
I've
left
in
there
from
the
gym
gets
taken.
M
That's
not
a
life
or
death
issue,
but
for
me
in
that
morning
that's
a
significant
thing
right,
like
you
know,
and
so
so
even
these
these
victimless
crimes,
or
so
to
speak
or
crimes
that
are
not
they're,
not
life
and
death.
They
still
have
impact
right
and
all
of
us,
every
person
deals
with
these
this
crew.
This
this.
If
everybody
wants
to
feel
safe
right
for
faith,
and
so
I
think
it
will
take
all
of
us
working
together
to
stop
homicides,
but
it's
also
going
to
take
all
of
us.
M
The
police
cannot
protect
us
by
themselves.
It's
going
to
take
all
of
us
working
together
to
reduce
crime,
to
increase
safety
and
to
have
better
outcomes
for
our
for
our
citizens.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
with
counsel
to
do
that.
So
thank
you
for
willingness
to
serve.
I
look
forward
to
a
few
fruitful
partnership
moving
forward.
F
Madam
president,
okay,
one
question:
what
what
is
what
what
is
your
formula
or
what
do
you
believe
the
formula
should
be
for
determining
how
many
officers
our
city
needs.
D
I
think
it
needs
to
be
a
fairly
comprehensive
study
and
again
it
it
involves
more
than
just
me
looking
at
it.
I
think
it
involves,
and
that's
why
I
did
you
know
when
director
history
was
here,
we
did
push
for
that
and
it
is
budgeted
for
a
study
to
be
done
or
a
you
know
a
consultant
to
come
in
and
help
us
with
that.
I
think
we
need
to
interview
community
members.
D
And
where
we
can
most
effectively
use
those
officers
and
how
we
most
effectively
use
officers
in
general,
we're
very
high
with
a
high
number
higher
ratio
than
most
departments
of
officers
versus
civilians
within
the
bureau
of
police.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
officers
that
are
doing
jobs
that
could
be
done
by
a
civilian.
D
I
think
those
officers
could
be
out
in
the
street
doing
interactions
doing
the
police
work
versus
administrative
work
versus
doing
some
technology
work.
You
know
we
could
hire
tech
people,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
require
money.
Some
of
that
requires.
You
know
our
officers
don't
get
paid
as
well
as
a
civilian
might
for
that
same
work.
D
So
I
think
it's
it's
not
something!
That's
easy
to
answer
at
the
table
right
now,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
I
need
to
work
with:
the
chief,
the
command
staff
and
the
officers
in
the
union,
as
well
as
some
outside
folks
to
get
a
better
assessment,
make
sure
we're
being
effective
with
all
of
our
employees.
D
Yeah
we
have
to
get
the
rfp
in
development
and
proceed.
Okay.
F
A
Thank
you
and
I'll
be
quick,
because
I
know
everyone's
waiting
for
a
meeting
to
start
I'll,
try
to
be
quick,
but
this
is
such
an
important
position
and
I
realize
that
we're
trying
to
give
mayor
gainey
the
team
that
he
wants
to
have
a
place.
But
this
is
such
an
important
position
I
want
to.
I
have
some
some
concerns.
A
And
so
first
I
want
to
say
some
of
my
concerns
are
with
the
department
of
community
health
and
safety.
I
think
we
go
so
far
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
arresting
people
that
sometimes
we're
creating
victims
in
so
many
other
ways.
So
I'm
going
to
give,
I
think
you
probably
are
familiar
with
the
situation
in
mount
washington,
the
fireman's
park,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
homeless.
A
Well,
they
say
they're
homeless
people,
but
some
of
them
are
not
almost
actually
from
mount.
Washington
live
there,
but
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
mental
health,
drug
and
alcohol
problems
in
mount
washington,
where
a
young
girl
was
attacked
or
assaulted.
A
worker
across
the
street
was
assaulted.
There
was
so
I
went
up
one
day
to
meet
with
the
mayor's
office,
and
you
know
one
of
the
people
tried
pulling
me
out
of
my
car.
A
You
know
trying
to
break
my
break
my
window
pulling
on
the
handle,
and
I
so
now
I'm
in
court
because
of
this
this
situation
and
what
happened
was
I
I
didn't
know
who
he
was
and
then
he
started
sending
me
really.
You
know
obscene
text
messages
and
stuff,
so
then
I
realized,
I
knew
his
grandparents
and
his
family,
so
I
called
his
uncle
and
he
asked
me
to
please
pursue
the
charges
because
they
said
they've
been
trying
to
get
him
help
and
the
only
way
they'll
get
help
is.
If
he
he's
arrested.
A
It
was
the
only
thing
to
save
them.
The
last
time-
and
I
remember
I
think
it's
khalif
ali
came
to
no-
maybe
no
I'm
sorry.
It
was
richard.
Garland
came
into
a
community
meeting,
he
said.
Sometimes
the
only
way
you
save
people
is
by
incarcerating
them
and
then
getting
the
help
while
incarcerated.
So
that's
a
whole
another
story
that
needs
to
happen
right,
but
my
thing
is:
what
do
the
families
do
when
they
need
help?
They
want
to
see,
they
don't
want
to
see
their
loved
ones
arrested,
but
they
also
don't
want.
A
Some
people
were
arrested,
citations
have
been
issued,
other
people
have
been
assaulted
and
yet
the
problem
still
continues,
and
yet
it's
just
a
small
part
of
the
bigger
picture,
and
so
I
want
to
know
what
we're
doing
to
make
sure
we're
helping
the
families
get
the
help,
how
they
can
best
deal
with
somebody
with
mental
health
that
we're
not
leaving
them
out
of
the
equation,
and
I
don't
want
any
answers
now,
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
that
I
have
concern
that
sometimes
we're
creating
more
victims
and
that
we're
actually
not
helping
those
who
really
need
the
help
by
just
allowing
them
to
just
wither,
wait,
wait
until
they're
ready
for
help,
because
sometimes
they're
never
going
to
get
it,
and
in
this
case,
in
this
particular
area
we've
already
seen.
A
I
know
of
at
least
two
that
passed
away
and
I
have
watched
I've
watched.
The
officers
respond,
they're,
extremely
patient,
but
it's
not
helping.
I
mean
it's
not
helping
the
the
people
that
need
help
and
it's
not
helping
the
businesses.
A
It's
not
helping
the
residents
going
by
there,
so
it's
creating
other
victims,
and-
and
so
I
just
want
to
rethink
that-
is
there
a
time
when
one
we
get
the
family
help
and
two
where
we
change
our
our
thought
process
on
how
we're
addressing
at
least
a
certain
area
or
certain
individuals
so
that
we're
not
just
stuck
on
this
is
the
way
it
has
to
be
and
that's
it,
because
sometimes
the
families
are
begging
us
to
do
something
more
so
that
they
can
help.
So
I
just
want
you
to
think
about
that.
A
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
diversity
in
the
fire
department.
I
have
seen
some
of
it
increasing,
but
I
think
that's
an
area
we
really
have
to
I'm
really
concerned
that
we
have
one
black
female
firefighter
and
she's
getting
ready
to
retire.
I
believe
so
we'll
have
none.
A
So
I
I
really
hope
that
you're
gonna
make
a
concentrated
effort
into
recruiting
a
more
diverse,
not
just
in
not
just
environment,
all
across
the
board,
but
in
particular
that
there's
only
one
female
black
female
firefighters
concerning,
but
if
the
police
officers
I
we're
losing
an
average
of
60
officers
a
year,
it
will
take
two
classes
of
35
officers
each
and
it
takes
such
a
long
process,
it's
11
months
and
then
basic
recruits.
A
You
know
have
to
stay
on
longer
so
and
I
think
that
we're
looking
at
other
officers
from
other
municipalities
or
retired
officers
returning
or
whatever
if
they
have
the
120
act,
one
f-120
is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
so
what
I
would
ask
is,
then,
are
we
making
more
of
an
effort
to
get
those
officers?
And
the
other
thing
I
have
a
concern?
A
A
So
my
and
I
don't
know
the
reality
of
all
the
the
details
of
everything,
but
what
I
would
say
is
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
the
same
training
that
our
officers
have,
even
if
they
do
have
the
act
120,
but
that
we're
also
adding
and
enhancing
their
training
so
that
they're
at
the
expectation
level
was
as
high
as
we
have
for
our
officers.
Is
that
something
that
we
do
provide.
D
Yeah
yeah,
when
we
bring
in
a
we
call
it
a
certified
class
which
are
officers
that
already
have
their
act
120.
They
have
to
go
through
additional
training
and
field
training
with
our
officers,
but
we
don't
just
you
know,
put
them
out.
A
And
then
we're
talking
about
doing
more
policing,
community
police,
you
know
relationship
building,
but
yet,
if
our
numbers
keep
continue
to
decline,
so
I
just
want
to
say
it's
imperative.
We
get
a
class
one.
You
know
that
we
do
this
in
a
better
way,
but
I
want
to
say
if
we
continue
to
decline,
we're
not
going
to
have
the
officers
to
do
that.
A
Community
policing,
because
all
they're
going
to
be
doing
right
now
is
responding
to
calls
one
call
after
another,
and
I
watch
it
I'm
watching
it
happening
now
in
our
district,
that
they
don't
have
time
to
stop
and
do
the
things
and
we're
taking
officers
off
of
that
can
be
police
community
relationship
work
and
because
they
have
to
do
the
they
have
to
respond
to
calls.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
this
council,
that
I
make
it
clear
that
at
least
myself,
I'm
really
advocating
strongly
for
an
increase
in
that
police
officer
class
and
that
we
put
one
on
immediately
and
that's.
I
really
have
a
lot
more
to
discuss,
but
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
before
your
final
confirmation.
I'm
going
to
put
it
up
for
confirmation
for
next
week
and
I
knew
councilwoman
gross
just
give
me.
Did
you
have
questions.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
was
watching
all
the
interviews
back
in
my
office,
so
I've
caught
up
on
everybody
else's
questions
and
your
information.
L
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
met
twice
once
last
week
because
you
were
on
site
at
the
fern
hollow
bridge,
and
so
we
didn't
have
a
good
zoom
connection
and
then,
secondly,
this
week
on
the
phone-
and
we
touched
on
some
of
the
items
that
other
members
have
asked
about
and
that
you
brought
up
yourself
director
schmidt,
which
was
especially
that
ratio
of
officers
in
the
total
force
my
office
did
some
of
the
calculations
that
I've
discussed
with
you
before,
comparing
pittsburgh
to
15
other
benchmark
cities
on
the
ratio.
L
I've
talked
extensively
to
councilman
coghill
about
the
same
issue.
I've
presented
some
of
that
research
at
the
police
budget
hearings
this
last
year,
so
that
we
should
be
looking
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you
will
be
kind
of
conducting
a
study
about
how
do
we
allocate
those
officers
hours
so
back
in
this.
I
think
it
was
december
that
we
had
the
police
budget
hearing.
L
We
talked
extensively
about
what
are
those
costs
associated
with
having
civilians
do
some
of
the
positions
when
we
hear
complaints
that
we
don't
have
as
many
patrols
as
we
want
or
in
certain
places
in
the
city,
and
yet
we
have
fully
trained
officers
at
desk
jobs
who
aren't
available
to
go
and
respond
to
calls
so
how
to
readjust
those
hours.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
critical.
L
I
also
expressed
my
concerns
about
the
70
million
dollar
project
that
is
anticipated
at
the
veterans
site
that
the
city
has
acquired,
and
I
just
wanted
to
note
for
the
record
that
when
we
authorize
the
purchase
of
the
site
for
a
dollar
from
the
federal
government,
public
safety
training
is
not
the
only
use
that
is
allowed
by
the
federal
government,
and
we
specifically
asked
I
think
I
remember
councilman
lavelle,
also
asking
of
the
other
allowable
uses
for
that
site.
L
Can
the
city
change
its
mind,
and
can
we
just
appeal
that
decision
and
the
answer
was
yes,
so
I
did
express
my
concern,
given
especially
the
amount
of
recruits
that
we
train
pay
for
as
a
city
out
of
our
city
budget
and
then
lose
to
other
municipalities,
so
that
there's
not
really
no
reason
for
us
to
be
training
all
of
the
police
for
the
whole
county
on
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
budget.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
mention
that
we
reviewed
those
things.
L
We
also
reviewed
some
of
my
concerns
about
the
way
we
are
not
doing
animal
control
having
experienced
in
highland
park
this
past
year,
a
house
infested
with
rats
for
months.
L
Well,
it
was
caught
up
in
estate
and
there
was
no
property
owner
to
cite
site
and
rat
populations
increase
dramatically,
and
I
can
only
imagine
how
many
other
instances
across
the
city
where
we're
not
exercising
our
police
powers
to
ensure
public
safety
by
taking
care
of
animal
populations,
and
I
should
lastly
mention
that
I
will
continue
to
advocate
for
our
current
firing
range
to
be
moved
and
to
be
indoor,
because
it
is
a
constant
nuisance
for
the
residents
of
highland
park
more
than
a
nuisance,
it's
really
becomes
unbearable
as
when
we
have
these
big
recruit
classes,
they're
of
a
heavy,
it's
in
heavy
use,
and
it
really
echoes
up
that
valley
and
there's
a
lot
of
complaints,
and
it's
been
a
20-year
process
of
trying
to
make
it
a
more
livable
situation.
L
A
I
just
want
to
also
just
real
quickly
mention
that
I
appreciate
our
former
director
historic
for
his
work.
He
was
an
amazing
person.
I
think
you
trained
under
under
him,
and
so
that's
that's
comforting
to
know,
but
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
he
did
a
lot
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
and
thank
him
for
his
service,
and
we
had
so
far.
A
We've
had
really
great
luck
with
our
public
safety
directors
with
us
with
historic
and
now
with
you,
anticipate
it's
going
to
be
a
great
year,
great
great
time
with
you
too,.
E
Thank
you,
mr
schmidt.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base
on
what
councilwoman
gross
just
brought
up,
which
is
really
a
stickler
for
me.
I've
talked
to
director
his
rich
about
this.
Numerous
times
is
the
fact
that
we
train
our
officers.
We
pay,
I
believe,
last
I
checked
it
was
about
ten
thousand
dollars
per
recruit
to
get
them
on
the
street.
E
I
just
feel
it's
such
an
easy
fix
to
say
they
either
when,
when
we
decide
to
train
them
with
our
taxpayer
dollars,
they
either
sign
on
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh
for
five
years
or
whatever
municipality
is
recruiting
them
from
us,
must
pay
for
that
training.
That
really
bothers
me.
E
Staggering.
It
really
is
almost
as
high
as
I
think
it
might
be
higher
than
the
retirement
per
capita.
So
if
you
could
speak
to
that-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
really
have
much
thought-
and
if
you
haven't
that's
okay-
but
I
just
want
to
address
this
moving
forward-
it's
a
simple
fix.
You
sign
on
for
five
years
or
the
municipality
pays
us
back.
I
just
can't
understand
why
we
can't
make
that
work.
D
Yeah,
I
know
that's
something
that
was
discussed.
You
know
my
role
previously
in
police,
I'm
and
even
right
now,
because
that
position
is
vacant.
It's
myself
and
my
staff
that
manage
the
numbers
day-to-day
track.
The
retirements
figure
out
the
costs,
which
I
can
get
you
some
more
details
on
that
we
do
get
some
reimbursement
back
from
the
state
for
every
officer
that
goes
through
the
training.
It's
I'm
not
sure
what
the
percentage
is
now
because
I
have
been
stepped
away
from
it
for
a
couple
years,
but
I'll
get
you
that
number.
D
D
In
place,
there
is
some
state
processes
in
place
to
allow
for
that,
but
it's
not
a
it's,
not
the
full
amount
of
their
training,
but
some
of
their
training.
D
So
I-
and
I
think
it
is
something
to
look
at,
and
the
next
step
would
be
also
to
talk
to
the
the
fop
and
hr
to
see
what
type
of
agreements
we
could
have
officers
sign
and
if
that's
really
beneficial,
I
think
that's
that's
something
that
the
chief
and
everybody
else
should
weigh
in
on
as
well
with
council
just
to
find
a
little
more
information
on
that
yeah.
E
I
just
need
to
know
this
could
be
on
your
radar
screen.
Let's
fix
this,
please
one
other
thing
was
you
know
having
the
requirements
to
be
a
police
officer,
you
have
to
have
a
bachelor's
degree.
Is
that
correct.
D
No
60
credits
so
associates
essentially,
and
that
is
something
chief
schubert
and
e1
director
history
is
here:
we've
been
looking
at
briefly
to
figure
out.
If
there's
a
way,
we
can
provide
those
credits
as
part
of
our
training.
You
know
others.
E
That's
fine
not
not
requiring
that
they
don't
have
the
credits,
but
if
we
can
provide
it
for
them
to
get
those
credits
while
they're
going
through
training,
I'm
so
good
with
that.
I
myself
am
not
qualified
by
your
standards
to
be
a
pittsburgh
police
officer,
and
I
happen
to
think
I'd
make
a
great
police
officer,
so
I
think
we're
limiting
the
pool
of
talent
just
by
putting
that
associate's
degree
on
top
of
everything
and
might
prevent
them
from
even
you
know
filing
for
an
application,
so
so,
but
yeah.
E
If
you
can
work
that
out,
I'm
not
against
having
that
degree
but
for
those
credits
but
make
that
part
of
our
training.
I
would
think.
Okay
now,
that's
it
thanks.
E
F
You
if
there
are
no
further
speakers
that
will
end
our
pre-agenda
meeting
and
we
will
now
transition
to
our
standing
committee
agenda
meeting.
So
thank
you,
mr
smith,
for
being
with
us
today,
we
have
already
called
the
role,
so
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
public's
benefit
good
morning
and
welcome
to
our
standing
committee's
agenda.
F
Council
is
continuing
to
encourage
virtual
public
participation,
as
there
is
limited
seating
in
council
chambers
due
to
the
number
of
covet
infections
in
our
area,
all
our
meetings
will
be
live
streamed
on
the
city
website
and
the
city
youtube
channel.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
We
have
a
number
of
registered
speakers
today,
our
first
being
naomi
mullen,
followed
by
dr
ronald
lynn,
miller,.
N
N
The
largest
investment
that
the
average
american
will
make
is
their
home.
Our
biggest
assets
are
being
threatened.
This
is
why
we
as
a
community
have
expressed
significant
concern
about
the
potential
development
of
barnard
school
into
anything
other
than
a
green
space.
We
already
had
a
valuable
school
stolen
from
our
community.
We
deserve
a
valuable
green
space
to
replace
it.
The
pennsylvania
constitution
states
under
political
powers
that
all
power
is
inherent
in
the
people
and
all
free
governments
are
founded
on
their
authority
and
instituted
for
their
peace,
safety
and
happiness.
N
Negligent,
infliction
of
emotional
distress
and
blockbusting
are
being
perpetrated
by
those
who
oppose
our
community.
Real
damages
are
occurring
to
the
bonaire
community.
I
have
no
doubt
that
this
controversy
was
a
contributing
factor
to
the
demise
of
my
husband.
The
pps
created
this
controversy
against
we,
the
property
owners
of
bonaire.
N
N
N
O
Dr
ronaldon
miller
bell
super
east
liberty,
jackson
mississippi
masaru
lesotho.
I
found
this
today
to
be
extremely
valuable
as
a
citizen,
particularly
the
comments
that
were
made
by
mr
burgess
councillor
burgess
and
councillor
krauss
I'll
have
more
to
say
about
that
in
the
future.
But
thank
you
very
much.
Gis
u.s
national
candidate,
2024
global
intelligence,
society.org
february
2022
is
african
intelligence
month.
O
Audra
mcdonald,
high
iq,
cardi
b,
low
black
history
as
a
concept,
is
more
dependent
on
other
non-black
history
lines,
positive
information,
more
deeply
intertwined
with
negatives,
so
identity
is
confused
and
diluted
african
intelligence,
as
a
concept,
in
my
view,
is
less
dependent
on
non-african
forms
of
reasoning,
intelligences,
so
there's
more
positive
information
as
distinctive
of
regional
forms
and
easier
to
isolate
and
diffuse.
I
find
the
concept
of
race,
far
less
scientifically
supportable
than
region
derivation,
genetic,
cultural
dissent
from
a
geographical
regional
over
racial
identity.
O
The
concern
of
this
council
is
africa,
and
I
and
the
gis
are
seeking
a
link
with
maceru
capital
of
lesotho.
Some
comparisons
with
pittsburgh,
I
think,
are
very
interesting.
Massaroo
has
a
population
of
000
pittsburgh
compares
with
that
at
300
mid-size
cities,
both
maceru
and
pittsburgh,
are
landlocked
hilly
valley,
cities
with
mountains
on
three
sides
in
waterways.
O
Like
pittsburgh,
massroot
has
a
council
mayor
of
government,
but,
unlike
pittsburgh,
the
mayor
presides
the
council
and
may
be
removed
by
lakota
the
council
via
majority
vote.
Mastery
like
pittsburgh,
has
a
substantial
darker
skinned
african
population,
but
unlike
pittsburgh,
one
percent
lighter
skin,
like
people
in
pittsburgh.
Massaroo
people
dress
for
cold
winters,
but
unlike
pittsburghers,
massaroo,
wear
blankets,
so
richly
rainbow-colored
in
complex
patterns
signifying
individual
identities
that
the
basatho
blanket
shows
up
in
2017
in
the
louis
vuitton
fashion
show
and
in
the
2018
films,
black
panther
and
avengers.
O
P
I
am
the
grand
inca
of
the
iroquois
confederacy
of
aboriginal
american
people.
I
am
also
the
chief
of
my
nation,
the
advocate
for
my
people,
the
american
aborigines.
We
are
the
rotonel
sunni,
we
are
the
unkway
homeway
and
we
also
are
the
most
marginalized
group
of
people,
not
only
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
but
throughout
the
world.
P
P
P
I
would
like
to
acknowledge:
pastor
ricky
burgess
for
always
speaking
intelligently
and
firmly
about
the
flight,
the
plight
of
the
so-called
black
people
when
it
comes
to
resources
and
the
distribution
of
resources
for
that
particular
demographic
resources
are
available,
as
rickety
burgess
stated,
but
are
limit
in
limited
capacity
when
it
comes
to
black
and
brown
people,
when
europeans
have
been
given
100
years
or
more
of
free
labor,
of
course,
you're
able
to
contribute
to
the
tax
base
and
to
the
current
generation
yeah.
Well
of
those
who
come
behind
you
just
at
the
moment.
P
To
create
businesses
with
the
inequities
that
persist,
I
disagree
with.
I
respectfully
disagree
with
councilman
kell
smith
when
it
comes
her
comments
when
it
comes
to
how
the
system
applies
to
our
people
when,
in
reference
to
other
people,
because
it's
not
equitable
and
those
are
the
points
that
mr
burgess
had
pointed
out.
This
system
is
designed
to
keep
us
out
and
to
keep
us
down.
P
Q
Q
2022-0073
on
outdoor
dining
or
retail
activities
in
the
public
right-of-way
introduced
by
councilman,
councilman
wolfson,
as
many
of
you
know,
downtown,
has
been
significantly
challenged
by
the
pandemic,
with
over
20
percent
of
small
businesses.
Closing
since
march
2020,
resulting
in
over
20
retail
vacancy
smallest
businesses
are
vital
to
the
fabric
of
downtown.
It
makes
streets
interesting
and
active,
with
retail
vacancies,
serving
as
a
primary
metric
to
evaluate
the
economic
health
of
a
place.
Q
Restaurants
and
bars
make
up
most
of
half
of
downtown
small
businesses
and
they
have
been
disproportionately
impacted
by
coven
19.,
with
63
of
all
closings
in
2021
being
restaurants,
and
that
number
was
52
in
2020.
The
ability
for
restaurants
to
leverage
outdoor
seating
when
restrictions
were
enacted
have
been
essential
for
their
survival.
Q
It
has
provided
an
option
for
many
individuals
who
are
still
uncomfortable
with
indoor
dining
to
enjoy
the
fantastic
restaurants
who
call
downtown
home
outdoor
dining
has
also
added
much-needed
vibrancy
to
the
downtown
streets
which
have
been
essentially
especially
important
to
residents
and
visitors
as
daily
activity
remains
below
pre-coveted
levels
in
downtown.
Over
30
businesses
have
used
the
emergency
permits
issued
by
the
department
of
ability
and
infrastructure
to
deploy
outboard
dining.
Over
the
last
two
years,
we
have
received
unanimous
support
from
participating
businesses
to
make
their
outdoor
dining
areas.
Q
We
need
clarity
on
the
long-term
viability
of
this
program,
which
this
bill
provides.
We
are
grateful
for
the
previous
commitment
of
council
of
one
million
dollars
to
the
ura
from
the
allocation
of
the
american
rescue
plan
funds
to
go
towards
supporting
business
districts
and
implementing
enhanced
outdoor
dining.
We've
been
working
closely
with
the
ura
domi,
the
office
of
nighttime
economy
and
business
districts
throughout
the
city
in
crafting
a
grant
program
that
will
create
guidelines
that
leverage
best
practices
and
outdoor
dining
and
empowers
neighborhoods
to
activate
their
streets
with
the
appropriate
parameters
in
price.
Q
Although
the
million
dollars
is
certainly
welcome,
it's
likely
not
still
not
enough
to
adequately
support
the
needs
in
downtown,
as
well
as
throughout
the
90
neighborhoods
across
our
city.
We
appreciate
your
consideration
of
this
important
issue
and
feel
that
we
feel
is
essential
to
the
continued
recovery
of
downtown.
Thank
you.
F
F
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
abby
gilday,
I'm
the
business
district
manager
for
lawrenceville
corporation,
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
lc
lc
is
an
organization
serving
as
a
catalyst
and
conduit
for
responsible
growth
and
reinvestment
in
a
neighborhood
which
serves
as
home
to
hundreds
of
small
businesses.
Lc
works
closely
with
the
neighborhood
small
business
community.
R
This
legislation
has
been
a
relief
for
our
businesses,
who
have
been
forced
to
overhaul
their
operating
models
while
continuing
to
keep
employees
and
customers
safe
in
order
to
stay
open
for
business.
Our
business
owners
along
butler
street
and
penn
avenue
want
to
welcome
neighbors
and
visitors
into
their
business.
However,
the
ability
to
do
this
has
been
strained
and
at
times
impossible
over
the
last
two
years,
chapter
425
allows
owners
to
run
their
businesses
safely,
while
offering
a
dining
and
or
shopping
experience
to
everyone,
no
matter
their
comfort
level.
R
R
While
businesses
have
expressed
to
us
that
financial
support
has
been
most
critical
in
the
wake
of
covid,
the
city's
temporary
flexibility
and
permitting
outdoor
sales
and
activity
was
repeatedly
acknowledged
and
noted
as
one
of
the
positives
coming
from
what
has
been
a
challenging
period
for
business
owners.
This
legislation
is
a
step
forward
in
creating
safe,
accessible,
vibrant
business
districts.
R
The
markets
have
grown
in
vendors
and
in
physical
location
with
markets
along
butler
street.
Because
of
this
legislation,
we
are
able
to
operate
open
air
artists
markets
along
our
main
street.
This
legislation
speaks
to
the
demand
of
versatile
offerings
to
the
21st
century
urban
dwelling,
consumer
and
resident,
and
while
we're
grateful
for
this
legislation,
we
do
a
call.
We
do
call
upon
city,
council,
committee,
members
and
city
departments
and
agencies
to
continue
conversations
around
what
we
can
do
to
better
support
our
small
businesses
through
process
and
permitting
financing
and
more.
R
We
would
also
be
remiss
and
not
sharing
that
as
a
neighborhood
with
a
state-owned
and
regulated
main
street.
We
encourage
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
find
ways
to
streamline
processes
and
communication
with
penndot
so
that
our
small
businesses
in
lawrenceville
are
able
to
benefit
from
special
events
that
enable
businesses
and
community
groups
to
creatively
repurpose
the
right-of-way
temporarily
to
support
businesses
and
other
community
priorities.
R
S
Good
morning,
council
members,
I'm
kate,
irvin
the
director
of
place,
making
and
activation
for
the
oakland
business
improvement
district.
I'm
also
speaking
today
to
affirm
our
support
of
bill
2022-007
on
outdoor
dining
and
retail
activities
in
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
outdoor
dining
has
been
an
essential
way
to
support
small
businesses
and
maintain
vibrancy
in
oakland,
as
well
as
across
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
The
last
two
years
as
the
pandemic
has
continued.
We've
seen
how
outdoor
dining
and
retail
combine
a
number
of
essential
elements,
support
for
small
businesses,
activating
public
spaces
and
creating
vibrant
neighborhoods.
S
In
speaking
with
many
of
our
business
owners,
it
is
clear
that
the
outdoor
dining
program
has
helped
these
businesses
survive
the
last
two
years,
but
those
difficult
times
are
not
passed.
I
would
like
to
take
this
time
to
share
with
you
some
comments
from
a
few
of
our
business
owners,
who
could
not
be
here
today,
primordium
and
delavic
partner
in
the
marrow
restaurant
group,
which
operates
four
restaurants
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
The
outdoor
dining
program
has
been
critical
lifeline
for
us
during
the
pandemic.
S
It
allowed
us
to
continue
operating
while
maintaining
the
health
and
safety
of
our
staff
and
customers.
We
were
able
to
keep
more
of
our
staff
employed
during
the
restrictions
of
the
past
two
years.
The
feedback
from
our
customers
has
been
overwhelmingly
positive
as
they
enjoyed
this
new
outdoor
dining
option.
We
believe
making
this
program
permanent
is
essential
for
the
restaurant
industry
that
is
still
recovering
and
will
be
a
net
positive
for
the
customers
and
neighborhoods
where
they
operate.
We've
seen
the
impact
it
can
have
creating
a
more
vibrant
and
dynamic
outdoor
environment
for
these
neighborhoods.
S
We
strongly
support
making
this
program
permanent,
brandon
smith,
owner
of
fuel
and
fuddle
and
oakland
adds
that
outdoor
dining
is
important
to
continue,
because
so
many
people
are
still
uncomfortable
going
indoors.
Businesses
are
hurting
with
the
current
omnicron
surge.
We've
had
one
of
our
worst
winters
ever
because
no
one
wants
to
dine
indoors.
We
need
outdoor
dining.
Some
people
are
never
going
to
want
to
dine
indoors
again.
We
need
to
have
the
flexibility
to
weather
the
pandemic
waves
and
provide
safe
spaces
for
people
to
socialize,
eat
and
shop.
S
The
appetite
for
these
outdoor
spaces
continues
to
grow
and
they
continue
to
help
support
our
small
businesses,
while
creating
vibrant
public
spaces.
Obit
has
been
involved
in
the
development
of
the
grant
programs
from
the
ura,
and
we
continue
to
work
with
other
business
improvement,
districts
and
community
groups
throughout
the
city
to
support
these
programs.
S
T
T
U
Hello,
I'm
sorry,
I
I
didn't
know
that
I
was
supposed
to
be
speaking
right
now.
This
is
maria
cohen
members
of.
Can
I
go
ahead
and
start.
U
Thank
you,
sorry,
members
of
city
council
good
morning,
and
thank
you
for
being
here
to
listen.
My
name
is
maria
cohen.
I
am
a
long
time
city
resident
and
the
executive
director
of
the
squirrel
hill
urban
coalition
shook
today.
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
shook
and
our
business
chamber
of
commerce
on
cover
squirrel
hill.
U
U
Just
last
week,
the
media
reported
the
demise
of
the
almost
half
century
tenure
of
our
eaton
park
and
of
the
iconic
pamela's
restaurant.
These
are
only
two
of
the
latest
in
the
growing
list
of
restaurants
we
have
lost.
It
is
important
that
we
as
a
city
do
everything
that
we
can
to
support
our
restaurants
and
other
struggling
businesses
to
make
it
through
these
very
trying
times
during
the
pandemic.
U
Shook
is
in
support
of
passing
legislation
to
continue
the
streamline
process.
Although
emergency
declaration
has
expired
in
order
to
help
and
support
businesses
to
save
money
and
hopefully
have
the
opportunity
to
thrive
when
the
economy
stabilizes
squirrel
hill
has
several
restaurants,
restaurants,
currently
offering
outdoor
dining
options
and
two
that
were
helped
by
dhoni's
streamlined
process.
U
It
has
also
made
it
possible
for
some
restaurants
to
keep
their
doors
open
more
economically
and
safely.
We
are
still
in
a
very
fragile
economic
time.
Making
this
legislation
permanent
will
help
the
restaurants
and
businesses
who
are
currently
utilizing
outdoor
spaces
to
seamlessly
continue
reducing
disruptions.
U
This
will
save
restaurants
and
retailers
money
at
a
very
critical
time.
Outdoor
dining
and
retail
can
help
to
maintain
the
vibrancy
of
business
districts
and
economic
development
in
our
neighboring
communities.
The
safe,
the
safer
community,
consumers
feel
the
more
apt
they
are
to
go
to
go
out
to
dine
and
shop
during
the
pandemic.
Diners
and
shoppers
have
demonstrated
that
they
are
more
likely
to
support
establishments
that
they
deem
safe.
Outdoors,
dining
and
retail
options
make
distancing
much
easier
and
more
effective.
K
Okay,
great
good
afternoon.
Yes,
this
is
georgia
petropolis,
I'm
the
ceo
of
the
oakland
business
improvement
district.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
out
today
to
hear
this
great
cause.
As
you
just
heard,
from
kate
irvin,
our
director
of
place,
making
and
activation
the
obid
is
100
in
full
support
of
this
legislation,
and
she
spoke
very
eloquently
along
with
many
of
my
colleagues
here
today
about
the
reasoning.
Why?
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
of
your
time,
I'm
just
going
to
add
a
few
more
things
for
everyone
to
think
about.
K
But
our
industry
also
tends
to
use
the
word
customers
and
what
I
really
want
to
reiterate
is
when
we
say
customers
we're
really
talking
about
all
of
us,
we're
talking
about
us
as
people
as
individuals,
as
members
of
community,
think
about
yourselves
or
your
family
members
or
your
friends
when
you
choose
to
dine
or
to
support
a
dining
establishment.
K
One
of
your
first
responses
would
likely
be
outdoor
under
the
sunshine
being
able
to
people
watch.
These
are
the
types
of
things
that
creating
a
fantastic
experience
in
pittsburgh,
for
our
restaurants
are,
in
essence
creating
a
wonderful
experience
for
each
of
us
and
all
of
us
who
will
participate.
So
we
now
have
a
chance
to
continue
what
we
learned
in
the
last
two
years
that
dine
outdoor
dining
is
not
only
successful
for
the
restaurants,
but
really
it's
been
successful
for
the
community
and
no
doubt
in
oakland.
We
have
heard
from
business
owners.
K
We
have
heard
from
people
who
have
been
participating
in
the
program
and
in
the
dining
and
we've
even
heard
through
all
of
the
outreach
that
the
department
of
city
planning
did
as
part
of
the
oakland
plan
process.
Many
residents
and
many
stakeholders
that
participated
in
surveys
were
wildly
loving.
This
project
loving
closure
of
streets,
loving
closure
of
parking
lanes.
They
said
it
actually
added
great
benefit
to
the
community.
So
I
wanted
to
reiterate
that
and
wholeheartedly,
please
we
ask
for
your
support.
Thank
you.
V
Okay,
thank
you
good
morning,
candace
gonzalez
here
the
executive
director
for
the
southside
chamber
of
commerce,
I'm
here
to
tell
you,
on
behalf
of
the
chamber
that
we
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
support
the
proposed
ordinance
amendment
for
improved
outdoor
and
retail
activities
in
public
rights
of
way
in
pittsburgh.
The
south
side
chamber
of
commerce
is
an
advocate
for
businesses
located
in
the
south
side,
including
the
historic
south
side
business
district.
There
are
about
600
businesses
in
the
south
side,
about
half
of
them
are
located
along
or
adjacent
to
east
carson
street.
V
Many
of
them
have
restaurant
and
retail
operations
that
can
serve
their
customers
on
our
sidewalks
and
curbsides,
as
proven
by
the
temporary
outdoor
business
operations
that
were
re
created
during
the
covet
19
pandemic.
The
south
side
chamber
of
commerce
supports
the
city's
proposed
amendment
to
codify
an
umbrella,
outdoor
retail
and
dining
license
that
can
apply
to
public
sidewalks
or
streets.
It
is
our
understanding
that
the
updated
code
will
reflect
new
successful
practices
introduced
during
the
pandemic.
V
It
often
has
taken
a
long
time
for
our
businesses
to
figure
out
how
to
apply
for
approvals
and
permits
and
get
responses
from
live
city
personnel
to
get
outdoor
business
activities
approved
and
permitted
by
the
city
as
required.
This
has
been
a
hardship
on
our
small
businesses,
as
they
struggle
to
maintain
enough
employees
to
stay
open.
V
Having
a
more
organized
and
streamlined
approval
and
permitting
process
for
outdoor
business
activities
will
help
our
businesses
to
operate
more
efficiently.
Better
business
operations
mean
better
profits
for
our
businesses
and
more
taxes
paid
to
the
city.
As
the
pandemic
continues,
people
feel
safer
and
more
comfortable
to
enjoy
outdoor
dining
and
retail
shopping.
This
gives
business
owners
greater
flexibility
to
serve
their
customers,
comply
with
decreased
indoor,
occupancy
seating
and
keep
their
businesses
open.
V
T
Good
morning,
council
members,
my
name
is
lauren
brinjak
and
I
am
the
senior
director
of
government
affairs
with
the
pennsylvania,
restaurant
and
lodging
association.
We
represent
over
560
operators
in
allegheny
county
and
more
than
4
000
members
statewide.
The
prla
supports
councilman
wilson's
proposed
legislation
to
make
outdoor
dining
and
retail
a
permanent
feature
in
the
city.
We
really
appreciate
councilman
wilson's
efforts
and
the
committee's
consideration
of
this
important
issue.
T
Today,
as
you
all
can
imagine,
the
last
nearly
two
years
have
been
extremely
difficult
for
operators
in
the
hospitality
industry,
even
as
coveted
mitigation
restrictions
have
and
continue
to
be
lifted.
The
big
picture
in
terms
of
restaurant
recovery
is
that
our
operators
continue
to
face
very
real
challenges.
T
Our
national
partner
last
month
released
some
pennsylvania,
specific
results
from
its
latest
covet
19
restaurant
impact
survey.
As
you
can
imagine,
the
pandemic
continues
to
negatively
impact
business
conditions
across
the
state.
For
example,
93
percent
of
restaurants
have
experienced
a
decline
in
customer
demand
for
indoor
on-premises
dining
recently,
56
of
operators
have
reduced
hours
of
operation,
59
have
closed
on
days,
they'd
normally
be
open
and
22
percent
have
reduced
seating
capacity.
T
The
ordinance
creates
a
permanent
and
regulated
process
that
allows
flexibility
and
ensures
consistency
for
operators,
while
also
addressing
safety,
traffic,
accessibility
and
other
concerns
for
residents
and
businesses.
It
was
the
city's
willingness
to
allow
the
temporary
construction
of
these
sidewalk
cafes
and
streeters.
T
So
the
proposal
being
considered
today
comes
at
the
perfect
time
for
restaurants,
as
I
just
described.
Our
operators
continue
to
face
new
challenges
every
day,
and
so
we
believe
that
the
continuation
of
outdoor
dining
is
a
vital
part
of
restaurant
recovery
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
we're
very
happy
to
voice
our
support.
Thank
you.
F
W
W
W
The
past
year
has
highlighted
how
important
outdoor
experiences
have
been
in
allentown
we've
been
doing
outdoor
markets
and
one
this
past
fall.
The
allentown
night
market
had
over
1500
visitors.
I
think,
as
others
have
highlighted,
outdoor
experiences
are
extremely
important
for
small
businesses
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
letting
me
voice
my
support.
F
So
he
so,
mr
chiang
is
our
last
registered
speaker.
If
I
see
you
come
off
the
mute,
I
will
come
to
you,
but
with
that
is
there
anyone
in
chambers
and
or
online
who
wishes
to
speak
if
you're
online
raise
your
hand
during
chambers?
Please
come
forward,
provide
your
name
in
neighborhood
for
the
record
you'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
X
Sure
thank
you
good
morning,
madam
president
and
other
members
of
council.
My
name
is
mike
mitchum
I
live
at
116
carroll
drive
mcmurray
pa.
I
am
the
operations
director
with
permanente
brothers,
restaurants,
many
of
which
are
located
throughout
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
south
side,
garfield,
oakland,
market
square
and,
of
course,
the
strip
district,
as
well
as
our
home
world
headquarters
of
our
corporate
office
in
the
south
side
neighborhood.
X
I
also
sit
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
pittsburgh
downtown
partnership.
However,
I'm
here
today,
as
a
member
of
the
pennsylvania
restaurant
lodging
association,
I
serve
as
the
pres
president
of
the
western
chapter
as
I
well
as
I
sit
on
their
state
board
as
and
also
part
of
their
government
affairs
committee.
X
I
had
intended
originally
to
introduce
a
few
a
few
speakers
ago,
lauren
brinjack,
who
is
the
newest
member
of
our
pennsylvania,
restaurant
lodging
association
team
in
her
newest
role
as
senior
director
of
government
affairs,
as
you
have
heard,
with
her
and
many
other
testimonies,
all
of
which
provided
some
granular
content
and
how
the
ability
of
outdoor,
dining
and
retail,
not
only
in
pittsburgh
but
across
the
commonwealth,
is
vital.
X
Like
vital
to
the
the
the
life
livelihood
of
of
restaurants
in
and
around
pittsburgh
and
the
commonwealth,
so
I
wanted
to
thank
you
to
and
you'll
you'll
hear
this
in
the
the
public's
work
committee
papers
coming
soon.
Thank
you
to
committee,
chair
coghill
and
as
well
as
sponsor
wilson
lauren.
Thank
you
for
your
prior
comments
and
we
all
look
forward
to
your
further
consideration
of
this.
Thank
you.
Y
Y
I'm
going
to
show
you
what
I
mean
now
this
is
last
week
february,
the
3rd,
and
it
goes
february
the
8th
and
10
o'clock
and
then
1
30
cable.
Then
it
says
february
the
9th
10
o'clock
one
o'clock
meeting
today
when
we
come
wednesday,
the
seventh,
the
ninth,
nine
thirty
meeting,
you
didn't
start
till.
Oh
wait
a
minute.
I
really
was
writing
it
down
about
10
10
25..
Y
But
you
know
you
said
your
lawyer.
You
told
me
you
missed
smith,
your
lord!
You
were
sitting
here,
sir,
if
you're
sitting
in
here.
Why
won't
you
tell
them
that
they're
breaking
the
law
they're,
not
following
their
rules?
Now
I
sat
through
all
this
and
then,
when
I
sit
through
it,
then
they
don't
want
me
to
speak
anyway.
Y
Another
thing
I
want
to
say:
miss
smith:
I
love
you,
but
when
you're
wrong
you're
wrong,
like
I
say
wrong,
don't
hurt.
I'm
right,
don't
bother
nobody!
Yesterday.
That
lady
spoke
about
the
tavern.
She
spoke
quite
a
bit
then,
after
that
you
took
and
came
back
to
her
again.
Do
you
want
to
speak
again?
I
get
three
minutes.
Yes,
you
did
look
at
it
miss
smith.
Now
you
know
I
ain't
gonna
lie
on
you
because
you
do
seem
like
you
care
about
us
you're,
not
like
the
rest
of
these.
Y
Some
of
these
act
like
subs,
and
I
try
not
to
get
upset,
because
when
I
do,
then
I
speak
the
real
truth
and
I'm
not
allowed
to,
because
mr
burgess
will
say
you
can't
talk
like
that.
How
dare
him
tell
me
that
and
when
you
sit
there
and
lie
when
you
say
about
how
you're
fighting
for
the
black
people,
when
you
don't
fight
for
me,
you
made
sure
that
you
don't
and
you
made
sure
that
I
couldn't
speak
and
I'm
still
mad.
You
just
don't
know
how
mad
I
am
anytime.
Y
I
come
down
here,
sit
all
these
hours.
I
sit
longer
than
yours
and
I
can't
speak
by
three
minutes.
Three
of
them
can
speak
at
the
same
time.
Three
of
them
can
interrupt
me
and
nothing
happens
to
them.
You
know
what
lawyer
you
need
to
tell
them
that
they
need
to
be
fined
fifty
dollars
anytime.
They
open
your
mouth.
If
it
ain't
your
time.
F
B
I
I
F
P
F
H
Motion
to
approve
yes,
second,
very,
very
brief
discussion,
please
session
councilman,
just
madam
clerk,
maybe
not
to
prolong
the
meeting
if
we
could
find
out
the
number
of
bikes
that
might
come
out
of
this
allotment
and
an
approximate
cost
for
each
bike,
and
I
believe
that
being
that
they're
electric,
that
they're
pedal
assist,
which
I
I
think
that's
where
the
department's
moving,
which
I
like
very
much,
and
that
would
be
very
helpful
thanks.
Man.
F
E
B
58
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
public
works
to
enter
into
an
agreement
or
the
use
of
existing
agreements
between
the
city
and
sufisara
potra
coleman
for
the
creation
and
installation
of
public
art
at
sharp
tears
spray
park
at
a
cost
not
to
exceed
eleven
thousand
dollars.
Motion
to
approve.
H
Second,
very,
very
brief,
discussion
session
and
a
president
is
this
yours.
It
is
yeah.
Congratulations,
that's!
I
think
it's
your
first
freight
park.
Is
it
no.
This.
A
To
thank
the
people
that
served
on
the
committee
to
select
the
art
from
the
neighborhood,
and
I
want
to
thank
cali
baker
and
all
those
who
have
been
working
on
this
on
all
these
projects.
For
us.
A
Are
so
excited,
can
I
just
say,
chart
your
city,
I
tell
people
this.
All
the
time
is
one
of
those
neighborhoods
that
people
need
to
know
more
about.
It
is
predominantly
black.
It
has
the
highest
home
ownership
in
the
entire
city
of
pittsburgh,
about
90
of
the
properties,
are
homeowner
occupied
properties
and
at
low
crime,
and
it
they
set
the
bar
so
high,
and
so
this
is
I'm
glad
to
see
that
they're.
A
Finally,
getting
some
things
back
with
this
spray
part
avenues
of
hope
and
some
other
things,
but
this
particular
park
will
have
hundreds
of
kids
that
play
there.
They
play
sports
there,
so
they'll
be
so
they'll
it'll
be
definitely
be
used
throughout
the
year,
and
it
also
is
next
to
short,
tiers
early
childhood
learning
center.
A
I
I
I
figure
we
just
you
know,
since
this
will
be
some
technical
questions
here,
we'll
just
start
with
the
most
technical
all
right.
So
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
councilman
coghill.
I
I
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
people
that
I've
been
working
on
this
bill,
but
first
I'd
like
to
thank
council
councilman
krauss,
who
has
has
been
reminding
me
that
he
is
the
original
author
of
sidewalk
cafe.
Is
that
true?
It
is.
I
I
want
to
mine
here
a
little
bit
about
that
that
history
I.
H
D
H
Us
to
write
ordinance
to
to
define
outdoor
dining.
I
Okay,
well,
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
recognize
that,
but
then
also
thank
everyone.
I've
been
working
with,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
department
of
domey,
the
acting
director,
lucas
and
angie
martinez,
and
also,
if
others
haven't
met.
Yet
we
have
carolyn
seifert
as
well.
There
now
and
also
allison
hardin
hard
hard,
sorry
harn.
Then
I
apologize
with
the
nighttime
economy
and
all
the
effort
that's
gone
into,
creating
a
bill
that
also
worked
with
just
make
sure
everyone's
incorporated
like
pli.
I
So
you
know
here
we
are,
you
know
the
pandemic
happened,
there
was
quick
action
was
taken
and
what
we're
doing
here
is
really
just
incorporating
this
as
a
as
a
permanent
code
and
setting
up
you
know
a
timeline.
Hopefully
we
can.
We
can
work
on
this,
so
we
can
get
this
passed
in
a
timely
manner,
because
currently,
the
current
situation
is
that
we've
used
families
use
their
powers
to
extend
the
permits
for
current
for
the
current
operators
and
so
to
incorporate
new
ones.
I
I
So
I
think
that's
important,
I
think.
Sometimes
you
know
there's
been
cases
where
businesses
felt
they
had
to.
You
know,
get
something
up
in
a
timely
manner
and
to
make
that
look
better
for
the
future
would
be
would
be
great.
I
also
remiss
if
I
thank
my
chief
of
staff,
sally
statement
for
working
tirelessly
on
this
to
make
sure
all
the
eyes
were
crossing
t's.
All
the
eyes
were
dotted
and
t's
were
crossed.
I
So,
let's
not
have
me
fumble
anymore
and
we'll
move
on
to
some
of
the
concerns.
F
H
Yeah
no
concerns
just
some
suggestions
to
be
made.
I've
been
kind
of
beating
up
councilman
wilson
this
morning,
because
it
was
one
of
the
first
pieces
of
legislation
that
I
wrote
and
it
was
driven
by
you
know.
We
we
had
this
desire
to
activate
public
space
in
a
program
that
was
known
as
paris
to
pittsburgh,
but
what
we
were
seeing
was
anything
but
paris
to
pittsburgh.
We
had
people.
H
I
had
one
business
that
set
up
a
beach
theme
on
the
sidewalk,
so
they
completely
closed
the
sidewalk
they
put
lifeguard
chairs
in
they
poured
sand
on
the
sidewalk.
They
had
fake
palm
trees
and
bollards,
like
you,
would
see
at
a
at
a
dock
and
watching
people
walk
out
in
the
street
to
get
around
that
and
thinking
that
that
was
perfectly
acceptable
to
do
those
kinds
of
things:
people
that
were
blocking
fire
exits
and
creating
safety
hazards.
H
If
the
building
needed
to
be
evacuated
in
a
safe
manner,
it
couldn't
be
you'd
find
yourself
running
into
people
were
going
to.
You
talked
about
street
furniture,
people
were
going
to
pull
city
and
buying
massive
like
backyard
round
glass
tables
and
umbrellas
and
huge
padded
chairs
and
like
they
were
hanging
all
over
the
sidewalk
and
into
the
street.
H
You
know
creating
you
know
a
difficulty
for
people
to
pass
and,
of
course,
violating
federal
law
and
handicap
accessibility
and
all
those
kinds
of
things
so
anyway,
a
little
bit
of
the
history
of
how
and
why
we
got
to
write
this.
If
I
made
madam
clerk,
can
I
motion
to
just
make
a
very
small
technical
amendment
on
the
third
page.
It
is
under
425.03
and
it
is
section
f
once
you
find
it.
Oh,
it's
just
technical
nature.
H
It
reads
an
application
for
an
outdoor,
dining
and
retail
license
shall
include
including,
but
not
limited
to,
and
I
would
strike
the
word
include
along
with
at
a
minimum
so
that
it
reads
shell,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
read
the
the
others,
and
then
I
mentioned
with
councilman
wilson
on
the
next
page,
which
is
under
the
same
section.
It
is
letter
g.
H
One
of
the
changes
is
at
a
distance
determined
by
the
department
and
councilman
wilson,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
best
to
actually
reference
the
authority
that
we're
referencing
there
and
I
believe
that
would
be
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
you
might
want
to
place
in
there
and
then
on
the
next
page,
which
would
be
same
chapter
letter
h.
It's
the
one
reservation
that
I
have,
and
I
spoke
with
councilman
wilson
and
hopefully
we'll
work
through
it.
H
The
original
ordinance
is
that
we
were
having
businesses
that
were
actually
bolting
in
permanent
structures
into
the
sidewalk
that,
even
though
they
weren't
in
operation,
people
had
to
find
their
way
to
navigate
around
these
permanent
structures,
and
so
I,
if,
if
it
is
the
will
of
the
sponsor
and
the
will
of
the
body,
I'd
actually
like
to
strike,
not
that
I'm
motioning
for
this.
But
I'd
like
to
discuss
it
like
it
to
actually
strike
without
the
permission
of
the
department
and
leave
that
section
remain,
as
is
do.
H
Yeah,
I'm
just
I'm
happy
to
discuss
yeah
exactly
I'm
gonna,
throw
it
back
to
you
and
then
one
last
thing
which
I'm
sorry
it's
not
they're
not
listed.
I
mean
number
the
pages,
I'm
sorry.
This
is
under
425.04
special
provisions
for
outdoor
retail
display
that
was
actually
written
by
councilman
motznick
when
he
was
on
the
council
about
again
activating
public
space.
H
H
But
those
were
my
only
my
only
questions
and
I
applaud
the
councilman
for
updating,
because
it's
important
it
needs
to
be
updated.
I'm
going
to
ask
if
I
can
the
nighttime
economy
coordinator
to
come
up
for
a
minute,
but
it
definitely
it
needs
to
to
be
updated.
We
are
in
a
completely
different
arena
in
2022
than
we
were
in
2008
and
I
hope
perhaps
maybe
our
nighttime
economy
coordinator.
H
Would
you
come
up
allison,
we'll
actually
speak
to,
even
though
we
know
this
well
the
hit
that
food
and
beverage
business
has
taken
during
pandemic
and
if
there's
probably
anything
more
important
on
our
agendas
right
now
in
terms
of
assisting
the
small
business,
it's
it's
to
help
reinvent
and
revitalize
what
food
and
beverage
business
is
today
and
how
to
assist
in
in
welcoming
them
back,
but
anyway,
welcome
thanks
for
coming
up.
I
just
was
wanted
to
provide
you
the
opportunity
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
your
thoughts
on.
S
Z
You
know
I
think,
I'm
going
to
back
up
and
and
not
just
be
about
dining
entertainment,
because
really
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
opportunity
for
people
to
connect
and
socialize,
and
these
are
businesses
that
facilitate
that,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
for
letting
me
come
up
and
speak.
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
councilman,
wilson
and
all
of
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
this
these
past
couple
of
really
difficult
years,
not
just
for
businesses,
but
for
us
as
individuals.
Z
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
know
what
year
this
was,
but
councilman
krauss
nominated
pittsburgh
for
a
sociable
city
contest
an
award
and
pittsburgh
was
given
that
award.
It
was
the
very
first
sociable
city
in
the
u.s,
and
a
lot
of
that
had
to
do
with,
like
most
most
cities
have
just
a
downtown
and
that's
where
everybody
go
to
have
their
their
dining
entertainment.
But
pittsburgh
is
so
unique
in
having
this
in
all
of
their
neighborhoods
or
most
of
their
neighborhoods.
Z
But
that
is
definitely
shifting
over
the
years
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
neighborhoods
have
places
for
people
to
connect
and
socialize,
and
the
grant
that's
tied
to
this
bill
actually
is
really
looking
at
that
equity
equity
piece.
Z
The
lessons
learned
from
these
businesses,
business
districts
that
have
helped
facilitate
this
are
in
a
work
group
with
ura
to
create
a
technical
assistance
program
that
can
help
those
communities
that
haven't
been
able
to
do.
This,
don't
have
the
bandwidth
or
the
staff
to
do
it.
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
socializing,
though,
but
I
remember
back
in
2009
there
was
this
study
that
came
about.
Z
It
was
called
the
gallup's
psychosocial
study
and
it
really
intrigued
me
because
it
said
that
for
individuals,
optimum
mental
and
emotional
well-being,
we
need
six
hours
of
social
connection
with
human
beings
in
person.
That's
cumulative!
It's
not
saying
you
have
to
go
out.
You
know
at
happy
hour
and
stay
out
till
midnight,
but
that
is
you
know
breakfast
with
your
family,
a
conversation
around
the
water
cooler.
Z
You
know
those
those
the
communalization,
the
accumulation
of
those
moments,
contribute
to
our
residents
and
our
visitors,
well-being,
and
this
this
legislation
definitely
contributes
to
that.
I
also
want
to
commend
domi
and
our
our
administration
and
our
council
for
the
swift
response
they
had
in
pulling
together
a
very
collaborative
team
to
create
the
ability
to
do
that
under
emergency
order,
and
we
learned
a
lot
from
that
experience.
Z
We
learned
that
we
can
be
nimble
and
we
can
be
flexible
as
a
city,
and
we
learned
that
that
process
actually
works
better
than
what
we
had
and
it's
great
that
we're
learning
from
this
and
looking
to
make
it
permanent
to
make
it
equitable
and
it.
I
believe
it
will
really
contribute
to
not
just
the
the
health
of
our
businesses
but
to
individuals
and
communities.
There's.
Z
It
was
safer,
it
was
stronger
financially,
it
was
just
a
healthy
community
and
the
number
one
thing
they
found
that
connected
people
to
their
communities
are
places
where
people
could
go
to
connect
and
socialize,
including
bars,
restaurants
and
cafes,
and
so
I
think
this
is.
It
is
really
important
to
all
of
us.
I
think
it
became
very
apparent
during
the
pandemic,
how
important
those
six
hours
were.
Z
We
were
very
limited
to
who
we
could
connect
with,
and
I
just
really
appreciate
all
the
thought
and
that
you're
giving
to
this
this
discussion
in
this
bill.
Thank
you.
H
I
may
and
then
I'll
be
done
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
members.
The
the
question
that
I
that
I
raise
around
the
holding.
H
Structures
like
that,
I'm
sorry.
I
apologize
one
of
the
things
I
remember
that
we
ran
into
in
terms
of
permanent
structure,
was
violation
of
fire
code
and
that
that
occupancies
were
granted
by
points
of
ingress
and
egress,
that
that
would
provide
for
safe
evacuations
should
the
building
need
to
be
evacuated
in
an
emergency,
and
so
we
were
finding.
AA
So
kim
luke
is
acting
director
for
the
city's
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure.
That's
a
great
point
about
making
sure
that
we're
maintaining
safety
and
access,
anything
that
is
being
proposed
would
be
reviewed
by
pli
and
domi
to
make
sure
that
nothing
that
is
approved
would
have
those
limiting
factors.
AA
We
do
think
that
there
is
a
benefit
to
having
structures
that
can
be
bolted
right
now
if
the
default
is
using
sandbags
or
other
bulky
materials
that
help
stabilize
some
of
that
infrastructure,
but
become
their
own
tripping
hazards
because
they
take
up
more
space
and
they
are
not,
you
know
permanent.
They
can
easily
be
moved
by
passer
by.
Perhaps
we
do
think
it
would
lead
to
an
actually
safer
environment
by
having
more
substantial
infrastructure
that
does
not
produce
the
tripping
hazards.
H
H
While
we
were
writing
this
ordinance
and
I'm
not
exaggerating
the
the
sidewalk
cafe
ordinance
in
new
york
city
was
like
this,
it
was.
I
cannot
tell
you
what
you
had
to
go
through,
but
one
of
the
things
that
fascinated
me
about
the
way
new
york
did
it
was
every
barrier
was
designed
exactly
the
same.
There
was
no
differentiation
in
what
you
chose
to
to
sequester
your
outdoor
dining
area,
and
so
they
were
wrought
iron.
They
were
all
uniform.
H
They
had
plates
on
the
bottom
for
stability,
so
they
could
not
rock
or
be
knocked
over,
and
then
everyone
had
an
inset
panel
that
was
stretched
with
the
name
of
the
restaurant
on
it.
It
it
made
for
a
stunning
effect
to
see
how
coordinated
it
was,
how
beautiful
it
actually
made
it
and
the
consistency
throughout,
and
it
really
addressed
your
point
of
of
stability,
because
because
we
have
seen
some
of
that
too,
someone
just
decides
to
define
their
outdoor
space
by
five
gallon
buckets
with
womanized
lumber
poured
with
sand
and
a
yellow
chain.
H
Those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
clearly
have
to
be
defined.
You
you
can't-
and
I
believe
we
defined
a
lot
of
that
in
the
original
ordinance,
if
I
remember
correctly,
at
least
for
historic
districts
that
they
did
have
to
meet
the
furnishings
and
the
and
the
barriers
had
to
meet
specific
historic
guidelines
to
be
able
to
use
in
in
historic
districts,
but
just
to
enforce
your
point
of
safety.
Yes,
but
it's
not
so
much,
it's
really
more
about
defining
what
the
barrier
should
be
and
regulating
what
kind
of
barrier
one
can
use.
H
E
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
mr
cross.
I
didn't
realize
you
were
the
original.
You
know
he's
made
that
pretty
clear,
though,
since
we've
been
here
this
morning,
but
councilman
wilson.
I
want
to
thank
you
and,
as
we
talked
previously
I'd
like
to
be
added
on
as
a
co-sponsor,
if
you'll
have
me,
definitely
okay,
adam
clark,
thank
you.
E
So
I
I
love
them.
You
know
they
had
a
vibrancy.
They
added
energy.
Allison
is
from
my
neighborhood.
We
see
them
packing.
You
know
we
see
them
popping
up
everywhere.
Restaurant
tours
we've
heard
from
this
morning,
they're,
obviously
supportive
of
this.
This
effort.
This
is
not
quite
the
time
of
year,
but
you
know
as
soon
as
spring
I
you
know
comes.
I
know
that
they're
gonna
be
popping
up
again,
so
so
I'm
in
full
support
of
it.
I
thank
you
for
being
a
co-spon
or
allow
me
to
be
a
co-sponsor.
E
I
did
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
director.
If
I
would,
in
order
to
put
something
out
in
front
of
your
storefront,
you
need
a
license
and
the
permit.
E
Okay,
so
maybe
I
missed
that
license
and
the
permit
is
required.
E
Permit
and
license
got
it
okay,
art,
commission,
I
see,
does
the
art
commission
have
to
approve
like,
as
councilman
cross
was
saying,
the
type
of
furniture
or.
E
Well,
that's
why
I
wanted
to
go
there,
but
I
just
I
I
kind
of
was
hoping
their
hands
weren't
in
on
this.
The
art
commission
doesn't
have
to
come
in
and
approve
your
your
setup,
okay,
good
enough.
That's
all
I
need
to
know
the
other
thing
was
you
know,
shell
set
the
type
of
coverage
of
insurance
required.
Is
it
different
in
in
the
in
the
rate
for
somebody
who's,
cooking
versus
somebody,
who's
just
selling
flowers,
or
you
know,
is
there
an
added?
You
know
risk.
C
Yeah,
it's
the
same
insurance
requirements
for
all
permitees
and
the
reason
why
we
word
it
that
way
in
the
code
is
because
those
requirements
are
captured
in
our
fee
schedule.
So
if
they
were
ever
to
change
in
the
future,
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
and
amend.
You
know
specific
sections
of
code.
We
would
just
refer
to
the
fee
schedule.
E
Okay,
so
set
rate
for
everybody
for
everyone
yeah,
whether
you're,
cooking
or
not.
G
E
Good
enough,
the
last
thing
was
18
inches
from
no
furniture
should
be
within
18
inches
of
the
curb.
Does
that?
That's
that's
where
the
city
starts
not
from
the
outer
curb
that
means
from
the
I
see
we're
allowing
for
four
feet
and
that's,
I
guess
ada
in
compliance,
and
so
nothing
could
be
set
within
18
inches,
which
is
not
a
very
lot
of
room
but
of
the
right
away
of
this.
So.
AA
AA
Talking
about
the
sidewalk,
but
we're
talking
about
space
between
you
know
the
the
activation
and
the
curb,
not
as
necessarily
space
for
a
pedestrian
to
move
through.
That
was
the
four
foot
dimension
that
you
mentioned
it's
instead
in
relation
to
what's
happening
in
the
roadway.
You
know
if
we
have
parked
cars
next
to
the
curb.
They
need
that
space
to
be
able
to
open
their
car
door,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
also
visibility
for
sight,
distance
and
safe
roadway
operations
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
Extra
hour
from
the
weekends
friday
saturday
to
11
o'clock,
I
like
that
our
storefronts
required
to
bring
all
furniture
inside
after
11
o'clock
or
10
o'clock.
C
Yes,
for,
as
this
is
written
for
the
outdoor
retail
use,
those
are
you
know
the
tables,
the
clothes
rack.
Things
of
that
nature
can
only
be
out
there
during
hours
of
operation
and
then
need
to
be
put
inside.
E
That
this
this
this
is
the
only
part
that
I'm
gonna
bring
up
here,
where
I
feel
what
may
pre-create
potential
conflicts
applicants.
Food
prepared
outside
premises
require
notarization
and
consent
from
the
adjacent
building
owners.
So
if
my
neighbor
doesn't
like
me
and
doesn't
want
me
cooking
outside
they
can
I
I'm
not
allowed.
How
does
that
work?
H
I
think
that's
more
about
food
prep,
odor
waifing
into
other
businesses
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
you
know
you
may
have
a
very
high-end
dress
shop
next
to
a
restaurant
or
a
you
know
a
barbecue,
and
perhaps
maybe
they
would
not.
You
know.
E
Know
makes
makes
complete
sense.
However,
you
know
if,
if
you
have
a
neighbor
that
you're
not
friendly
with
and
do
we
is
it
required
to
have
the
consent
of
adjacent
building
owners
in
order
for
you
to
set
up
or
no.
C
That
requirement
is
specific
to
the
outdoor
cooking
use,
and
it's
for
exactly.
Some
of
those
reasons
that
councilman
cross
mentioned
is
the
odor
the
smoke,
the
nuisance
nuisance,
sort
of
things
that
could
impact
a
neighbor
so
that
you
know
petition
that
actual
formal
sign-off
is
required.
But
only
when
cooking
is
the
use,
that's
being
requested.
E
C
This
is
existing
policy
around
what
is
in
the
original
code,
as
extension
of
premise
with
cooking.
That
is
just
reappearing
at
this
version
as
outdoor
retail
with
cooking.
So
it's
an
existing
provision
that
people
have
complied
with
and
you
know
we
would
like
to
carry
over
into
this
new
version
of
the
program.
E
E
That
yeah
well,
that
would
be
fine.
I
mean
if
we
could,
you
know
so
so
that's
it
for
me.
That's
you
answering
my
questions.
That's
the
one!
That's
left
out
there
for
me.
If
I
my
neighbor
and
I
don't
get
along
and
he
or
she
decides
hey,
I
don't
want
you
cooking
out
there.
It
creates
a
problem,
but
okay,
that's
it!
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
the
people
who
participated
in
this
councilman
wilson
mentioned
and,
of
course,
the
councilman
krauss
for
originating
on
the
sidewalk
cafe,
legislation,
and
it
just
really
strikes
me
that
that
was
a
very
different
moment,
those
deck.
L
I
really
do
like
the
idea
of
a
consistent
design,
standard
or
even
design
materials,
and
maybe
we
have
not
just
one
but
maybe
a
menu
of
range's
affordability,
but
that
you
know
that
was
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
residents
and
business
districts.
Is
that
there's
it
can
be
looking
a
little
messy
frankly
right
visually,
and
so
for
the
safety
reasons
and
for
just
kind
of
consistency,
and
it
also
helps
a
business
that
is
trying
to
do
these
kinds
of
things.
L
Just
you
know
have
options
instead
of
having
to
try
to
research
and
invent
it
itself
on
what
would
be
compliant.
So
I
really
would
love
to
work
further
on
that
idea
that
we
can
set
forward
some
materials
and
designs
that
would
make
it
actually
possibly
easier
to
create
these
outdoor
retailing
situations.
L
I
I
do
understand,
I'm
glad
we
had
the
discussion
about
permanent
bolting
in,
but
I'm
I'm
also
supportive
for
the
reasons
that
were
mentioned-
and
I
do
want
to
mention
that
I
think
because
of
the
pandemic,
you
know
not
being
just
a
few
weeks
which
or
a
few
months
which
it
seemed
like
it
might
have
been,
where
it's
going
to
be
in
2020
that
now
we're
in
2022,
and
it's
really
important,
as
one
of
my
staff
members
pointed
out
to
me,
it's
important
for
the
safety
of
the
restaurant
workers
that
there
be
an
increase
in
this
outdoor
seating
accommodation,
especially
and
for
workers
right,
so
that
they're,
not
all
in
an
indoor
situation.
L
I'm
honest,
I'm
really
glad
that
we
should
support
and
try
to
even
expand
the
use
of
the
sidewalk
area
where
we
can,
with
all
the
safety
considerations
and
similarly
for
queuing.
L
I
was
really
grateful
myself
for
the
restaurants
that
maybe
they
had
closed
their
dining
room,
but
you
could
still
get
take
out
and
even
if
they
didn't
do
delivery
themselves,
you
could
go
up,
and
so
I've
got
restaurants,
who
kind
of
created
like
a
half
window
situation,
or
they
put
some
plexiglass
and
there
was
a
table
and
you
could
slide
it
up
and
it
really
made
customers
feel
safe
and
it
made
the
workers
feel
safe
as
well,
so
there's
limited
contact,
but
some
of
these
restaurants
are
very
popular.
So
it's
true,
they
aren't.
L
They
are
actually
doing
takeout
windows,
but
again
we're
in
a
very
different
situation.
And
so,
if
there
is
a
problem
with
current
code,
I
think
we
should
work
through
that
to
keep
allowing
them
there's
a
very
popular
destination
on
liberty,
avenue.
That
is
a
very
long
line
in
the
morning.
We
want
to
make
sure
there's
clearance
and
I
think
this
putting
it
in
in
the
ordnance
will
actually
help
make
sure
they
can
manage
that
line
and
that
queuing,
while
keeping
safe
passage
for
nada
compliance.
L
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we're
moving
these
things
forward.
So
I'm
supportive
today
and
if
the
sponsor
would
agree,
I
would
love
to
be
added
as
a
co-sponsor
as
well.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
went
into
this.
You
know
and
it's
sad
but
true,
we're
in
2022,
and
this
is
accommodations
that
we
need
to
continue
to
make.
L
But
for
all
the
reasons
director
honda
mentioned,
this
is
actually
kind
of
part
of
what
we've
been
encouraging
in
a
15-minute
city,
a
walkable
city,
a
city
where
people
do
have
the
ability
to
have
social
interactions
in
a
safe
way
and
to
keep
pittsburgh
a
friendly
city.
It's
a
city
of
neighbors
neighborhoods
that
are
actual
neighbors.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
work.
G
You,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
thanks
to
everyone.
Who's
worked
on
this
bill
and
has
supported
it
and
has
written
the
you
know
the
precursor
to
this
fill
everyone.
G
G
What
is
built
into
it
to
ensure
that
accessibility
for,
like
ada
accessibility,
is
part
of
the
thought
process
and
part
of
as
integrated
into
this,
so
everything
from
wheelchair
access
to
those
with
visual
impairment.
AA
I
think
that
accessibility
is
of
the
most
important
importance
for
this
work,
changing
the
use
of
the
public
space
and
converting
what
had
been
sidewalk
to
something
else.
That's
probably
the
number
one
concern
we
do
have
a
review
by
the
ada
coordinator
as
part
of
one
of
our
steps
in
the
process,
so
domi
pli
and
the
ada
coordinator,
who
sits
within
the
department
of
city
planning
in
terms
of
design.
I've
heard
a
couple
folks
mention
today
that
there's
a
desire
for
more
consistency
in
the
infrastructure.
AA
That's
used
in
the
design
of
these
outdoor
activations
and
through
this
work
and
through
the
work
of
the
urban
redevelopment
authority
and
that
million
dollars
that
they
received
in
grant
funding.
We
hope
to
have
a
design
guideline
and
standard
that
comes
out.
That
recommends
specific
materials
and
specific
extensions,
or
what
have
you
that
would
be
appropriate
and
all
of
that
to
further
the
accessibility
and
consistency
and
predictability
of
what
you
encounter
in
the
public
space.
AA
That's
a
great
question,
so
we
have
enforcement
and
responsibility
shared
across
multiple
entities.
So
when
it
comes
to
enforcement
of
the
physical
footprint
and
making
sure
that
it's
not
impeding
on
the
public
space,
the
clear
pedestrian
space
thomas
inspectors
are
responsible
for
that
component.
When
it
comes
to.
AA
There
is
a
need
for
after-hours
inspections
and
because
that's
when
these
spaces
are
probably
going
to
be
most
active
is
not
during
the
typical
work
day
for
a
lot
of
our
inspectors,
and
so
that
is
a
concern
we've
heard
by
council
and
something
that
we
strive
to
achieve
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
activities
within
that
footprint.
You
know,
there's
different
entities
if
they're,
if
they
have
the
proper
tables
and
they're
spaced,
properly
and
they're,
not
having
food
safety
hazards
and
things
like
that.
There's
the
county,
there's
pli.
AA
If
you
have
an
issue
with
spillover
of
intoxicated
patrons
and
things
like
that,
then
you've
got
public
safety,
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
different
enforcement
entities
that
have
to
work
together
to
make
sure
that
the
impacts
of
any
of
these
outdoor
activations
don't
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
surrounding
individuals
or
spaces.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
clean
up.
You
know
the
conversation
while
we
were
talking
just
so
I'm
on
the
same
page.
So
this
concern
about
permanent
structure
that
you're
good
with
that.
I'm.
H
H
H
And
it
might
be
a
little
more
comp,
I
would
be
a
little
more
comfortable
if
we
could
define
perhaps
the
necessary
width
of
a
sidewalk
to
permit
cue.
You
go
in
the
1600
block
of
carson
and
we
have
a
three
and
a
half
foot
sidewalk
and
so
and
and
many
businesses
already
queue
there
as
it
is,
and
then
you
see
people
physically
walking
in
carson
street
to
avoid
the
cue
that's
lined
up
and
and
then
the
only
the
only
other
suggestion
I
would
make
and
and
again
we'll
take
this
offline.
H
And
you
and
I
talk
about
it.
The
the
the
outdoor,
dining
and
retail
have
different
impacts
at
different
times
of
the
day
that
it
operates.
So
while
something
operating
at
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
is
gonna
have
a
different
impact
than
something
operating
at
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
and
something
that's
operating
at
midnight.
H
We
can't
navigate
this
space
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
where
people
are
going
to
be
falling
over
tables
and
chairs
and
and
our
officers
are,
you
know,
are
unable
to
do
the
the
work
we
need
to
do
because
of
the
impact
it's
having
on
the
public
space.
So
you
know
the
the
the
idea
of
time
it's
operating.
I
Happy
to
work
with
you,
I
just
want
to
make
some
some
unless
others
have
comments.
I
want
to
make
my
final
comment,
which
is
and
domi,
if
you
could
correct
me,
shake
your
head
know
if
I'm
getting
something
wrong
here
so
currently,
if
we
pass
this
next
week,
it
would
go
into
effect
30
days
after,
and
this
would
speak
to
new
businesses,
the
outdoor,
dining
and
retail.
I
I
You
know-
and
that's
that's
the
whole
point
of
this
is
just
so.
It
can
be
an
equitable
process
and-
and
everyone
can
be
included-
is
that
I
miss
anything,
but
I
get
something
wrong.
AA
The
the
ura
and
the
stewardship
over
that
grant
is
not
something
that
I
have
much
influence
over,
but
yes,
that
that's
my
understanding
and
yes,
the
current
permits
75,
I
believe
temporary
permits
were
granted
over
the
last
two
years
as
a
coveted
response.
55
of
those
have
been
renewed
based
on
engaging
with
those
businesses
and
then
providing
the
important
and
necessary
insurance
requirements,
updated
et
cetera,
so
they
can
their
permits
go
to
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
I
Okay,
great,
I
just
wanted
to
you
know,
speak
to
the
businesses
that
currently
are
operating
like
this
and
just
make
sure
they
know.
You
know
if,
for
some
reason,
they're
listening
and
they
can
hear
that
so
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
for
everything
you
did,
and
you
know
I
just
know
just
from
if
I
visit
another
city
or
if
I
talk
to
friends
who
visit
our
city
and
they're
activating
the
space
around
a
business,
whether
it's
the
sidewalk,
the
parking
spaces
or
the
street.
In
some
cases
they
all
return
and
go.
I
Why
can't
we
have
this
in
pittsburgh,
and
so
that's
why
a
big
thing
is.
I
think
pittsburgh
could
really
be
leading
the
way
for
activating
our
outdoor
space
and
I
think,
we're
joining
a
lot
of
other
cities
in
this.
In
this
respect,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
doing
that,
I
know
it
saved
a
lot
of
north
side
businesses
and
it's
going
to
take
years
for
these
businesses
to
recover
and
to
to
maintain
their.
You
know
the
the
everything
that
requires
to
run
that
business.
So
thank
you.
Thank
everyone.
H
Yeah
just
one
last
thing:
I
swear
to
god:
I'm
gonna
stop,
there's
a
permanent
structure.
I'd
like
to
just
show
you
a
picture
that
is
bolted
into
a
sidewalk
that
has
been
there,
probably
the
better
part
of
a
year
now
unused
the
materials
are
got
off
of
the
romanized
lattice
and
it's
people
fall
over
it
all
the
time,
and
so
the
idea
of
you
know
this
one's
again,
creating
permanence
and
structure
that
that
goes
unused
it's
falling
apart.
H
This
is
an
old
picture,
but
one
of
the
panels
is
missing
on
it
and
it
just
it's
hanging
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
for
no
purpose
at
all
realize
my
reservation
of
creating
permanent
structure
without
some
level
of
criteria.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
I
just
real
quickly
director.
Maybe
you
explained
this,
but
as
far
as
what
councilwoman
gross
and
krause
were
saying
about
the
aesthetics,
do
we
have
something
in
place
now
or
are
we
creating
something?
Okay,
yeah
yeah?
I
love
the
idea
of
broad
iron
black,
you
know,
but
yeah.
We
can't
have
that
so.
Okay,
that's
all
I
just
didn't
know
if
something
was
in
place
or
not.
Thank
you.
F
V
F
M
H
H
We
on
both
bills
or
just
one,
I'm
sorry,
seven
to
seven.
Second,.
G
I
know
it
is
the
primary
bill
sponsors
desire
to
amend
the
bills
today
and
then
have
a
full
discussion
hold
for
one
week
and
have
a
full
discussion
next
week
when
he's
here.
I
I
he,
as
you
know,
has
been
talking
to
many
members
this
morning.
Many
have
expressed
questions
concerns.
I
can
address
them
to
a
certain
extent.
We
have
met
singer
here
as
well,
councilman's
chief
of
staff,
but
I
know
his
desire
to
discuss
this
next
week.
M
M
AA
In
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
there
are
over
400
bridges
owned
by
multiple
entities.
The
city
owns
a
hundred
and
or
between
130.
140
of
those
bridges
are
owned
by
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
so.
M
AA
Is
so
if
you
check
out
the
pennsylvania
department
of
transportation,
who
is
the
entity
that
is
engaged
in
the
bridges
that
fall
within
the
national
bridge
inspection
standard
requirement,
of
which
any
bridge
that's
20
feet
or
greater
in
span
and
affects
our
highway?
Slash
roadways?
All
of
that
information
is
publicly
accessible
right
now,
their
conditions
and
their
locations.
M
M
For
the
second
bill
I'll
talk
about
why
I
did
not
write
a
bill
that
looks
like
this
when,
when
the
bridge
collapsed
in
a
in
my
district,
two,
which
I
I
was
very
I've,
been
very
quiet
about
it.
Although
I
do
share
that
bridge,
because
I
I
don't,
I
view
my
role
as
to
be
helpful,
and
so
if
there
is
something
that's
an
emergency,
if
I
can't
be
helpful
I'll
just
be
quiet.
M
M
M
If
it's
not
going
to
have
impact,
we,
the
city
does
not
have
the
money
to
fix
the
infrastructure
that
money
is
going
to
have
to
come
from
state
and
federal
sources.
We
got
blessed
that
the
federal
government
is
fixing
the
fern
hollow
bridge
right
and
that
money
is
federal
money
coming
through
the
state
coming
to
us,
and
so
shortly
after
this
we
have
these
new
bills
to
come
and
I'm
not
against
it.
I'm
the
commission,
particularly,
I
agree
with
council
up.
She
hasn't
said
it
yet,
but
I
agree
with
councilman
gross.
M
M
I
will
support
this
first
bill
with
the
understanding
that
it
will
have
very
little
impact.
It
will
not.
It
will
not
fix
these
bridges,
it
will
not
generate
the
money
to
fix
these
bridges.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
committee
that
will
be
a
committee
and
talk.
It
will
not
fix
these
bridges,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
about
this.
This
is
not
a
solution
to
the
infrastructure
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
It
can
be
helpful.
M
It
can
have
conversations
it
will
not
in
any
way
our
infrastructure
problems,
and
so
I
think
conversations
are
helpful
and
recommendations.
But
this
is
a
financial
problem,
not
a
policy
problem.
We
do
not
have
the
resources
to
fix
the
infrastructure,
the
city
does
not
have
it,
we
don't
have
it.
We
don't
have
the
money
to
fix
the
bridges
that
we
own,
let
alone
the
bridges.
M
We
don't
control,
we
don't
have
the
resources
and,
and
so-
and
so
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
the
purpose
of
this,
and
no
because
I
think
you
know
the
public
is
scared.
I'm
scared
too
right.
I'm
I'm
scared
that
bridge.
I
go.
My
sister-in-law
travels
it
every
day.
She
just
happened
not
to
be
there
that
day,
because
she
was
off
the
same
time
every
day,
the
time
that
bridge
collapsed
normally
monday
through
friday
or
whether
she's
a
nurse
or
whatever
her
schedule
is
she's
on
that
bridge.
M
I
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
the
entire
bill
as
well
next
week,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
are
you
in
communication
is
domi
in
communication
with
the
sponsor
of
the
bill
so
that
we
are
ensuring
that,
like,
if
there's
something
that
comes
up
like
we
have
to
add
staff,
because
ultimately,
I've
had
a
conversation
with
dummy
for
quite
some
time
about
getting
a
bridge
in
my
district
done
and,
quite
frankly,
we're
not
you
know,
I
mean
they're
overworked
already.
I
I
mean
the
same
engineer.
That's
got
to
report
to
this
website.
Will
they
also
be
still
working
on
trying
to
execute
my
contract
so
that
I
get
my
bridge
done
swindle
bridge?
Specifically,
that's
down
the
you
know
one
lane
of
traffic.
That's
my
concern,
so
I
want
to
get
an
accounting
of
how
much
time
is
going
to
take
away,
because
most
of
this
duplicated
gonna
be
a
duplicative.
You
know
tran.
I
mean
it's
transparency
from
what's
already
on
another
website,
so
I
just
like
some
clarity
on
that.
I
I
If
we
had
to
ask
add
staff
like
I
want
to
do
the
will
of
you
know
the
current
mayor,
the
council,
I
mean
they're,
the
one
you
know
the
the
member
whose
bridges
in
the
district
I
mean.
I
just
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
AA
We
would
need
additional
people
you're
right.
We
have
a
chief
engineer,
who's
responsible
for
800
sets
of
public
steps
over
130
bridges,
landslide
remediation
of
which
we
can't
predict
all
of
them,
and
we
do
have
a
backlog
that
need
to
be
fixed
and
new
construction
projects.
So
we
have
very
limited
resources
and
even
for
reports
that
exist,
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
penndot
has
the
public
facing
bridge
data
for
all
of
the
bridges
that
com
have
to
meet
the
mbis
requirement.
AA
Even
for
data
that
exists,
it
will
take
time
in
some
cases
to
interpret
it.
It
will
take
time
to
aggregate
it
if
it's
being
requested
in
a
new
format,
and
so
it-
and
at
this
point,
if
there
is
not
a
you-
know,
an
increase
in
resources
to
do
that,
we
will
have
to
turn
someone
away
from
resource
from
what
they're
already
doing
to
be
able
to
achieve
this
yeah.
A
That's
what's
going
to
end,
that's
my
concern.
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we
could
be
facing
some
significant
lawsuits
about
our
infrastructure.
I
don't
think
this
is
the
conversation
we
should
be
having
at
the
table
right
now.
I
think
what
we
ought
to
do
is
the
bills
and
we're
holding
the
bill.
Let's
work
with
this
sponsor
and
then
let's,
let's
have
a
discussion,
but
right
now
I
think
we
just
got
to
be
careful
what
we
say.
I
F
G
G
For
instance,
we
have
a
shadrich
commission
that
does
multitude
orders
of
magnitude
more
than
our
forestry
department
is
able
to
accomplish
they're
able
to
be
advocates
for
trees,
they're
able
to
be
advocates
for
shape.
You
know
shade
trees
in
our
neighborhoods
and
procure
funding
for
that
we
have
a
clean
pittsburgh.
Commission,
that's
able
to
do
orders
of
magnitude
more
than
a
single
anti-litter
coordinator
can
do
and
in
the
same
way,
I
think
that
an
infrastructure
commission
could
be
advocates
and
could
do
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
don't
have.
G
The
capacity
to
do,
and
even
additional
domi
staff
probably
could
not
do
and
I'd
like
to
just
explore
the
idea.
I
am
absolutely
interested
in
talking
this
through
and
making
it
work
for
our
department
heads
for
our
departments,
for
our
staff
and
for
council,
so
as
not
to
take
away
power
from
council
and
so
as
not
to.
G
Take
take
an
issue
that
is
largely
out
of
our
hands
in
a
lot
of
ways
when
it
comes
to
funding
and
pretend,
as
if
that
is
going
to
be
solved
by
this,
but
to
to
do
what
we
can
and
to
ensure
that
we're
approaching
this
very,
very
important
discussion
of
infrastructure
in
a
methodical
and
sensible
way.
E
Yes,
I
want
to
thank
councilman
o'connor,
you
know
he.
He
really
did
take
a
leadership
role
when
that
bridge
collapsed.
I
would
like
to
be
added
as
a
co-sponsor
to
the
bills.
If
I
don't
know
do
we
need
the
sponsor's
approval
for
that
or.
E
So
you
know,
I
think,
it's
out
of
abundance
of
caution.
You
know
as
to
having
another
set
of
eyes
on
these
bridges
director.
You
had
mentioned
that
you
would
need
more
resources
in
talking
to
the
sponsor.
I
didn't
kind
of
he
didn't
relay
that
to
me
that
there
would
be
additional
resources
needed.
E
I
mean
I
understand,
maybe
just
somebody's
eyes
laying
eyes
on
the
you
know
the
bridges
itself
and
giving
a
determination,
and
we
do
have
structural
engineers,
I
believe-
and
so
can
you
explain
as
to
what
additional
position
or
how
you
feel
you
might
need
more
resources.
AA
So
the
language
has
a
number
of
reporting
requirements
and
for
the
commission
itself
wants
two
domey
staff
members
to
participate,
and
so.