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Thank
you,
six
members
present.
Thank
you
rev.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
our
speakers
of
the
rules
of
Council
of
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
manage
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are,
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
is
not
permitted.
After
you
recall,
please
restate
your
name,
provide
your
neighborhood
for
the
record
you'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker,
Dr
Ronald,
Lynn,
Miller,.
D
Dr
Ronald
and
Miller
Bill
Hoover
Brussels,
Belgium,
Henry
VI
for
two
act:
four
scene:
two
Global
intelligence,
Society,
U.S
national
candidate
for
president
2024
cgsii.rlm.global
intelligence,
gmail.com,
primary
email
in
the
early
2000s
I
became
a
member
of
the
law
and
Society
Association,
and
the
modern
language
Association
concerns
of
Pittsburgh
city
council
and
local
legislatures
across
the
United.
States
are
the
legal
one
laws
of
the
land:
U.S
Nation
Pennsylvania
state,
Pittsburgh,
City,
Home,
Rule
Charter,
yes,
rules
of
council.
D
No,
two
laws
of
the
city
ordinances
I
have
proposed
in
public
comment
over
the
last
10
years:
21
laws,
21
ordinances,
to
protect
and
and
promote
local
and
three
legal
compliance
by
citizens
plus
Court
conviction
due
to
non-compliance.
Is
it
legally
possible
for
a
citizen
to
sue
a
local
district
attorney
such
as
Stephen
zappala,
due
to
District
attorney,
authorized
fake
investigation,
false
arrests,
fraudulent
charges
to
sue
a
local
Council
such
as
the
Pittsburgh
city
council,
collectively
due
to
council
permitted
defamation
of
that
citizen
by
another
citizen?
D
In
her
public
comment
in
the
Municipal
Court
of
Common
Pleas
to
sue
a
local
counselor
individually,
such
as
Mr
Krause,
Ms
gross
Mr
Burgess
for
active
interference
in
his
right
to
freedom
of
speech
and
public
comment
in
the
western
Pennsylvania
federal
district
court
as
a
civil
rights
violation
to
do
so
simultaneously
for
monetary
damages
and
to
do
so
within
overlapping,
national
and
local
election
Cycles.
The
answer
to
that
is,
yes,
all
are
legal.
D
What
is
illegal
is
a
another
question,
but
it
would
be
fun
and
it
will
be
fun
and
no
matter
what
Ms
Warwick
is
doing
over
here.
Once
again,
we
have
a
counselor
who
who
seems
to
prefer
to
be
on
her
digital
device,
while
a
citizen
is
speaking
in
public
comment,
I
find
this
to
be
consistent
with
what
it
is
that
you
do
not
do
in
this
Council
and
that
is
to
observe
the
civility
that
is
required
of
you
as
a
counselor
and
not
just
you,
but
the
rest
of
you.
E
Electric
honors,
the
lighting
is
my
title:
is
my
grand
Council
Chief
member
medicine
for
the
airport,
Confederacy
of
Aboriginal
American
people?
Ignorance
of
the
law
is
no
excuse
when
you
fail
to
honor
your
Oak
to
the
Constitution
as
Municipal
officers,
public
servants,
citizens
and
non-citizens
Upon.
E
E
To
the
contrary.
Notwithstanding
the
Supreme
Court
has
consistently
held
that
our
trees
have
the
same
force
and
effects
as
treaties
with
foreign
Nations
and
consequently,
are
the
supreme
law
of
the
land
and
are
binding
upon
state
courts
and
state
legislatures,
notwithstanding
state
laws
to
the
contrary,
the
Supreme
Court
speaking
from
Justice
chief
justice
Marshall,
stated
in
part
as
follows.
E
Without
our
consent
and
in
our
property
rights
and
Liberty,
they
shall
never
be
invaded
or
disturbed
and
less
injust
and
lawful,
Wars
authorized
by
Congress
last
time.
I
checked
we're
not
at
War,
belongs
founded
in
Justice
and
Humanity
show
from
time
to
time
be
made
for
preventing
wrongs
being
done
to
our
people
and
preserving
our
peace
and
friendship
with
your
people
protecting
our
rice.
The
indigenous
species
was
very
important
for
city
council
to
do
in
house
Congress
resolution.
F
Greetings:
I
am
a
aborigine,
American
matriarch
and
my
title
is
Chief
egiology
located
in
the
Delaware
territory,
as
you
all
will
call
Pittsburgh.
My
statement
today
is
to
invoke
my
people's
constitutional
indigenous
rights
and
what
I
mean
by
indigenous
is
an
adjective
in
entomology,
since
1640s
originating
in
particular
in
a
particular
place
sprung
from
the
land.
What
land
the
Americas,
including
the
islands
I,
am
also
encouraging
city
council
to
pass
my
people's
legislation.
The
legislation
is
intended
to
ensure
the
Protection
security
and
safety
of
my
people
against
discrimination,
Force
the
simulation,
Eugenics
and
genocide.
F
The
title
of
the
legislation
is
Pittsburgh
city
code,
Municipal,
title
VI,
article
12
rights
of
indigenous
people.
My
people
are
acknowledging
multiple
maxims
of
Law
and
documents
such
as
the
Constitution
Article,
1,
Section,
2,
Clause,
3
and
excluding
Indians
not
taxed
the
Delaware
treaty,
the
Northwest
Ordinance,
the
adrift,
the
union
house,
Congress
resolution,
331
100s
come
Congress
second
session,
and
the
list
continues.
Therefore,
all
Municipal
Municipal
officers,
citizens
all
other
foreigners
and
immigrants,
have
a
responsibility
to
uphold
their
oath
to
the
Constitution,
which
has
enabled
them
to
be
unappreciative.
A
G
G
Today,
I
want
to
talk
about
some
first
tell
a
story
that
goes
back
30
to
40
years
ago,
when
I
was
sitting
with
my
friends,
and
we
were
talking
about
I
brought
up
the
conversation
about
global
warming.
Now
I
was
met
with
overwhelming
skepticism
and
ridicule,
but
I
think
that
I
knew
what
I
was
talking
about
then
and
I
think
I
know
what
I'm
talking
about
now.
G
G
It
will
be
a
great
asset
to
the
city,
it's
long
overdue
and
we
need
leadership.
My
friend
recently
said
to
me:
why
do
you
go
down
there?
Nobody
cares
what
you
think
or
nobody
cares
what
you
say.
But
I
disagree.
This
is
the
public
forum
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
This
is
the
Market
Square
soapbox.
People
listened
on
here,
so
join
me
in
this
conversation
again
think
about
what
I'm
saying
do
a
little
research
and
talk
to
your
friends
about
it
have
a
great
day
and
take
care
thanks
again.
H
Good
morning
my
name
is
Yvonne:
F
Brown
I
live
at
715,
Mercer
Street,
that's
in
Katy,
where
irvis
tires
for
all
the
previous
employees
that
work
for
the
city
and
Housing
Authority
I
want
you
to
know
that
bunky
everybody
knew
bunky.
His
mother
lived
in
our
building,
Kaylee,
whoever
she
was
a
hundred
and
two
she
just
passed.
H
I
also
want
you
to
know
that
the
Pres,
the
residents
of
Katie
Harvest,
are
concerned
and
prepared.
They
were
concerned
because
we
found
out
I'm
an
advocate.
I
live
in
that
building
I
found
out
that
the
mayor
came
to
the
building,
brought
a
proclamation
and
a
plaque
for
one
of
our
residents,
who
just
moved
in
well
he's
solid
udding's
brother.
H
So
now
we
have
we
put
this
paper
in
the
picture,
his
picture
in
the
paper,
with
with
the
tape
for
fussing
about
the
cars
down
there,
which
I
I
praise
the
police,
because
you
stopped
it
if
I
hear
him,
I
will
call
but
also
took
a
picture.
Then,
when
I
go
down
to
the
meeting,
it's
something
that
they're
having
I
go
down
and
I
hear
them
talking
about
this
man.
That's
cleaning
up
and
so
on
and
so
on,
and
then
I
thought
they
were
going
to
say.
H
We
have
a
man
ray
that
has
been
helping.
The
citizens
he's
a
resident,
I,
don't
care
for
him
and
he
don't
care
for
me,
but
he
should
have
got
a
proclamation.
Not
your
old
crony!
You
politics,
your
politics
is
dirty
I'm,
I'm
fussing,
because
we
have
our
Lieutenant
Council
and
they
made
the
decision.
What
happens
in
that
building
like
when
they
brought
the
wit
Walton
for
photo
op?
They
were
running
through.
H
We
need,
we
need
residents,
we
need
residents,
where's
residents
now
she
passed
me
and
when
they
came
back
again
with
another
Resident
and
Miss
G
and
two
white
men
with
one
with
the
camera
I
had
to
move
out
the
way,
because
I
was
sweeping
I.
Do
that
too.
Now,
when
I,
they
had
this
thing,
they
said
just
family
but
I
looked
there
was
two
little
white
children.
Well,
they
don't
belong
in
that
building.
They're
not
kidding
this
as
far
as
I
know
to
anybody
in
there.
H
So
I
wouldn't
got
my
grandbaby
the
little
one
that
he
said
that
shouldn't
be
coming
down
here.
I
brought
her
and
she's
sitting
there
and
she
hears
me
talking
about
cleaning
up
and
stuff
and
she's
hitting
me
grandma
grandma.
They
gonna
give
you
one
too
I
said
no
baby
they're
not
and
I
knew
they
weren't
I'm,
not
asking
that
they
do
it,
but
I'm
asking
and
like
I,
told
her
anytime
you're,
bringing
up
them
split
tongue
lying
promising
politicians.
We
all
need
to
know
every
there's
190
apartments
up
there.
H
A
B
Bill
1393
ordinance
amending
the
Pittsburgh
code,
Title
IX
zoning
Article,
1
Section
902.03
zoning
map
by
changing
from
r1dl
residential
single
unit
detached
low
density,
District
to
UI,
Urban,
industrial
district,
certain
property,
roughly
bounded
by
Kelly
Street
Fifth
Avenue,
Frankstown
Avenue
and
the
Allegheny
Valley
Railroad,
brilliant
line
all
in
the
Allegheny
County
block
and
light
system.
12Th
Ward.
A
Can
we
get
a
second
second
referred
to
the
sponsor.
I
This
is,
you
know
a
great
day
for
our
city
great
day
for
the
Homewood
Community.
It
gets
a
get-go
which
will
also
provide
fresh
fruits
and
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
and
hot
foods,
and
a
sit
down
Cafe
to
the
Homewood
community.
So
it's
an
exciting
day
for
for
that
community
and
that
quarter.
B
Bill
1916
resolution
authorizing
the
issuance
of
a
warrant
and
an
amount
not
to
exceed
21
633.77
over
one
year
in
favor
of
re
Fleet
in
full
and
final
settlement
of
a
claim
for
damage
to
their
stop
vehicle
from
a
city.
Environmental
Services
we're
ending
it
and
pushing
it
into
another.
Stop
vehicle
Russian.
K
A
A
A
And
we
need
a
motion
to
waive
the
rules
of
council
so
that
the
pli
payment
to
Pennsylvania
Department
of
DCd
can
be
approved
so
move.
C
A
Aye
aye
opposed
the
rules
have
been
waived
any
further
discussion
on
the
P
cards,
if
not
all
those
in
favor
say.
A
C
A
L
M
Session
councilman,
thank
you,
Mr
chair
can
I
have
the
pli
and
there's
someone
here
from
the
wall.
Department.
M
All
right
thanks
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
come
up
because
out
there
make
some
comments.
I'm,
you
know,
hoping
you
can
describe
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
talking
about,
but
first
and
foremost,
I
just
want
to.
Thank
president
cal
Smith,
for
you
know
whenever
this
came
down
after
the
the
Airbnb
shooting,
that's
we're
going
on
like
a
year
and
five
months
now.
M
So
you
know
it
was
great
to
work
with
with
everyone
and
also
the
other
sponsors
to
make
sure
that
there
was
something
put
down,
that
we
could
that
we
could
work
on,
and
what
we
found
is
that
the
best
place
to
start
would
be.
M
You
know
to
include
this
in
a
short
term
short-term
rentals
into
you
know,
originally
we're
going
to
do
it
in
a
different
chapter,
but
it
would,
you
know,
follow
the
same
Islands
as
we
were
going
forward
with
with
rental
registry,
which
had
some
issues
in
the
courts
recently.
M
And
so
then
you
know
it
was
good
to
work
with
the
law.
Department,
the
administration,
pli
so
sort
of
freaks
in
the
the
council
president
and
other
members
that
you
know
you
know
welcomed
all
all
comments
and
all
all
recommendations
had
a
couple
briefings
on
the
bill
that
was
amended
by
substitution.
Basically,
you
know
we
took
the
original
bill
took
that
out,
put
the
new
one
in
and
the
new
one
includes
all
rentals,
whether
you're
going
to
rent
for
24
hours
or
you're
going
to
rent
for
two
two
years.
M
M
You
know
basically
stripped
it
down
to
what
you
know.
We
we
believe
can
can
stand
a
test
of
time,
and
so
that
is
you
know,
there's
a
few
points
here:
the
street
address
and
the
block
and
a
lot
of
the
number
of
rental
units,
the
yeah,
the
number
of
rental
units
the
street
address
the
name,
the
address
the
telephone
number.
Basically,
there's
several
points
that
get
that
contact
information
doesn't
require
someone
to
go
out
and
hire.
You
know
this
one
individual
to
be
that
person
like
it
wasn't
a
formal
bill.
M
M
But
you
know
I
can
go
through
some
of
these
all
these
different
changes,
but
I
think
what
we
want
to
know
is
how
we're
going
to
you
know,
hold
rental
properties
accountable,
whether
it's
24
hours
or
two
years
and
I'm
hoping
you
could
speak
to
you
know.
Pli's
role
in
that,
especially,
as
you
know,
in
particular
the
what's
laid
out
in
the
bill
is
the
registration,
the
license
inspection.
Could
you
go
over
some
of.
N
That
sure,
so
what
the
legislation
does
is
require
a
rental
valid
rental
permit
to
operate
a
rental
unit,
and
it
defines
a
rental
unit
to
include
both
more
permanent
as
well
as
short-term
rental
units,
and
then
there
are
two
primary
components
to
the
permit.
N
One
is
registration
which
includes
providing
that
contact
info
for
the
applicant,
as
well
as
a
valid
certificate
of
occupancy
for
use
of
the
rental
unit
unless
it
is
exempt
under
the
zoning
or
building
codes
from
requiring
a
certificate
once
it
makes
the
through
that
registration
process
pays
the
applicable
fees
a
provisional
permit
is
issued
at
that
point.
Inspections
are
performed
by
pli
per
the
standards
of
the
international
property
maintenance
code,
AS
adopted
under
title
10.,
and
a
past
inspection
is
required
in
order
for
a
non-provisional
permit
to
be
issued.
M
N
Program
sure
so
the
legislation
has
written
makes
this
effective.
Once
we
publish
rules
and
regulations
for
the
radura.
G
N
Registration
permit
and
anticipate
that
our
time
frame
for
that
would
likely
be
quarter
one
of
2024,
and
that
gives
us
time
to
provide
a
draft
of
those
regulations
for
the
public
to
review
and
provide
comment
to
us
before
we
transmit
to
you
as
Council
and
clerk
office
for
official
publishing
of
those
rules.
N
Also,
in
conjunction
with
that
one
of
the
transitions
needed
is,
we
will
be
coordinating
with
the
Department
of
Public
Works
to
take
on
enforcement
of
weeds
and
debris
and
that
coordination
and
that
handoff
is
required
for
us
to
have
the
capacity
to
perform
the
necessary
enforcement
related
to
rental
registration.
So
that
gives
us
enough
time
to
do
both
of
those
tasks
and
to
ensure
that
DPW
can
jump
in.
M
Okay,
great
I,
make
some
I
may
make
some
further
comments
to
that.
If
members
you
know
after
members
have
some
comments,
but
I
also
want
to
note
that
the
second
bill
that
was
read
sorry
I
lost
my
place
bill
465.
M
So
here
some
time
ago,
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
time,
but
RPP
was
overhauled.
M
M
You
know
people
have
properties
that
are
that
what
that
weren't
considered
short-term
rentals.
There
is
a
you
know,
an
Avenue
for
that
for
parking
permits
previously,
but
there
wasn't
one
for
short-term,
rentals
so
and
then
RPP
bill.
We
try
to
include
that.
So
that's
one
is
just
amending
it
so
that
the
the
license
that's
required
here.
A
copy
is
given
to
the
Pittsburgh
parking
authority,
okay,
so
that
they
can
issue
permits
appropriately
or
actually
passes.
So
that's
what
that
bill
essentially
does.
So
that's
why
we've
been
carrying
them
together.
L
You
thank
you
councilman
Wilson,
for
your
work
on
this
and,
for
you
know
all
members
who
have
who
have
been
engaged
in
this
and
acting
director
I.
Thank
you
for
your
assistance
here
and
I'm
wondering
for
mostly
for
the
public,
but
if
you're
at
liberty
to
tell
us
how
inspections
will
be
scheduled
and
conducted,
will
they
be?
You
know
actually
like
scheduled
upon
is
upon
issuance
of,
or
you
know,
as
a
condition
before
issuance
of
a
permit.
L
N
Sure
so
the
ordinance
has
written
identifies
that
the
applicant
should
notify
us
when
they
would
like
to
schedule
that
inspection
and
if
they
fail
to
schedule
that
inspection
within
a
specific
time
frame
that
we
would
reach
out
to
to
them
and
look
to
gain
access
to
perform.
That
inspection.
C
L
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
only
other
question
right
now
is:
are
you
able
to
tell
us
whether,
in
the
list
of
inspection
criteria,
the
inspectors
who
have
now
been
lead
safe,
certified
will
be
inspecting
for
lead
in
in
inside
the
premises?
So.
C
F
P
P
The
concern
is
that
I
mean
dormitories
that
are
owned
by
a
university.
Like
a
giant,
you
know
what
we
think
of
as
a
dorm,
that
that
makes
sense
right.
That's
the
unit
I
mean
it's
sort
of
between
the
students
and
the
university,
but
the
concern
was
that
apparently-
and
this
doesn't
surprise
me-
that
the
the
big
universities,
especially
in
Oakland,
will
often
lease
buildings
and
use
them,
as
you
know,
like
lease
a
house
and
use
it
as
a
dormitory.
N
Yeah,
so
the
legislation
does
Define
what
a
dormitory
is,
and
so
we
would
evaluate
those
alternate
scenarios
where
it's
not
what
you
would
describe
as
traditional
and
the
definition
does
require
it
to
be
registered
with
the
college
or
university.
So
we
would
look
to
the
the
content
of
the
legislation
in
terms
of
definition
and
then,
if
there
is
any
need
to,
we
can
provide
further
clarification
in
our
rules
and
regulations
in
terms
of
how
we
would
address
things
that
maybe
fall
outside
of
or
into
gray
areas
in
the
legislation.
N
I
haven't
looked
specifically
at
the
dormitory
issue,
so
I
would
first
evaluate
what
that
definition
is
in
the
legislation,
and
then
we
have
the
opportunity
in
the
process
of
the
rules
and
rigs
to
address.
If
there
is
a
gray
area
in
the
legislation
to
provide
Clarity
in
terms
of
how
we
would
operationalize
and
regulate
that
specific
type
of
scenario
in
the
roles.
P
P
So
I
mean
again
I'm,
not
this,
but
some
kind
of
clarity
where
you
know
like
if
Pitt
owns
it.
If
it's
a
you
know
like
Litchfield,
Tower
or
whatever
one
of
those
giant
dorms
fine,
that's
that's
a
dormitory,
but
you
know.
C
N
So
if
someone
is
indicating
that
they
are
exempt
from
these
requirements,
we
would
look
at
what
is
the
certificate
of
occupancy
for
that
building
or
structure?
If
it
doesn't
explicitly
indicate
dormitory
use,
then
I
think
it
brings
into
question
that
it
would
be
regulated
by
this
ordinance.
Okay,.
P
Okay,
good
just
just
so
that's
clarified,
so
it's
on
your
radar
as.
P
That
may
come
up
and
so
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
certificate
of
occupancy.
So
in
the
requirements
it
says
that
you
need
to
provide
your
certificate
of
occupancy,
but
it
it
does
that
apply
to
like
Mom
and
Pop
landlords.
That
I
mean
I,
don't
know
I'm
thinking
of
my
own
house
like
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
have
I
mean
I,
don't
have
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
If
I
wanted
to
like
rent,
you
know
do
like
Airbnb,
my
you
know
a
house.
N
So
it
requires
it
unless
it's
exempt
under
either
the
zoning
code
or
the
building
code.
So
the
zoning
code
does
generally
exempt
single-family
dwellings
that
are
pre-existing
from
requiring
a
certificate.
So
there
will
be
instances
where
there
are
properties
that
are
regulated
by
the
ordinance
but
may
not
need
to
provide
a
certificate
occupancy
due
to
how
those
uses
are
regulated
under
the
zoning
and
or
the
building
code.
P
And
a
few
process,
questions
that
came
up
well,
one
is-
and
we
talked
about
this
in
the
briefing-
but
just
for
the
public-
is
coordination
with
the
Housing
Authority,
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
both
because
they
are,
they
are
not
exactly
like
they.
They
also
are
required
to
register.
N
P
So
I
mean
I,
I
could
I
foresee
you
know,
perhaps
the
Housing
Authority
sort
of
objecting
to
being
included
in
the
registry,
but
that
said,
I
feel
like
this
actually
is
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
help
reduce
their
administrative
load
by
you
know,
but
but
again
coordinating
so
that
the
requirements
are
this.
P
You
know
that
administrative
burden,
so
I
definitely
encourage
close
collaboration
with
the
housing
authority.
On
this,
let's
see
oh
yeah,
another
question
was
and
again
this
is
a
process
issue
I,
just
I,
don't
know
if
you've
thought
about,
but
if
there's
a
way
to
empower
so
well,
I
guess:
I'll
start
with
this
What
If
a
landlord
doesn't
register
what
have
like
what
is
the
process
there
like?
What
happens
then.
N
We
would
take
enforcement
action
as
described
by
the
ordinance
and
similar
to
the
any
other
enforcement
action.
We
would
issue
a
request
for
compliance
that
identifies
their
non-compliance
with
specific
aspects
of
this
regulation.
Okay,.
C
N
A
time
frame
in
order
for
them
to
resolve
those
and
in
this
ordinance,
if
I
am
recalling
correctly
recognizes
non-compliance
as
a
summary
offense
and
allows
us
to
request
a
penalty,
a
financial
penalty
of
500
per
unit
per
month,
where
they
operate
without
a
valid
permit.
So
we
would
issue
those
requests
for
compliance
if
they
failed
to
comply
prior
to
us.
Issuing
our
third
request
for
compliance.
N
P
In
terms
of
that,
are
we
going
to
sort
of
Empower
10
I
mean
so
I
I
guess
thank
you.
That
was
the
the
answer,
but
I
guess
what
I
was
really
getting
at
is
how
do
you
find
out
right
like
so?
N
Might
be,
we
can
attempt
to
coordinate
to
the
extent
we
can
with
the
magistrates
in
terms
of
enforcement,
a
majority
of
our
enforcement
is
complaint
based,
so
I
would
imagine
tenants
or
a
neighborhood
constituents
who
may
recognize
a
rental
unit
and
may
be
causing
potential
issues
for
them
would
submit
a
complaint
and
that's
how
we
would
find
out.
We,
we
also
do
find
things
out
on
our
own,
but
by
and
large,
the
3-1-1
complaint
system
is
where
we
find
a
bulk
of
our
enforcement.
Okay.
N
And
that
registration
will
mean
that
there
is
a
minimum
level
of
safety
for
their
rental
unit,
which
I
think
most
tenants
would
find
Value
in.
J
A
J
Thank
you
good
to
see
you
Mr
Green
I
just
want
to
take
a
minute.
J
J
So
that's
that
section,
and
then
we
have
this
new
housing
problem,
which
is
the
expansion
of
airbnbs,
both
in
the
kinds
of
problem,
nuisance,
airbnbs,
but
also
in
the
proliferation
of
them,
just
being
so
many
and
and
so
plentiful,
and
needing
to
to
regulate
those
as
well
for
our
citizens
and
the
health
of
our
neighborhoods,
so
that
we
have
this
combined
thing.
J
J
You're
not
renting
out
like
I've,
never
done
Airbnb,
but
okay,
so
I've
seen
people
do
it.
I've
watched
people
do
it
so,
let's
say
like
at
the
beginning
of
Airbnb:
someone
just
wants
to
rent
out
just
one
room
in
their
house
and
they're
still
there
like
that
still
happens.
I
think,
but
not
very
much
is
what
I
understand
is
happening
in
the
city.
J
Now,
even
I
think
the
question
the
way
councilman
Warwick
asked
it
was
like
what,
if
I
want
to
list
my
whole
house,
but
it's
still,
my
house
I'm
just
gone
for
the
weekend
or
something
what
if
I'm
doing
this
for
the
very
first
time,
I've,
never
done
it
before
and
I
just
want
to
say:
hey,
you
can
stay
in
this
extra
bedroom
for
the
weekend
again.
I.
N
So
what
I
was
referring
to
previously
was
whether
or
not
there
would
need
to
be
a
valid
certificate
of
occupancy
accompanying
that
application
I.
Would
that
would
be
separate
from
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
your
question,
whether
or
not
it
would
be
generally
regulated
under
this
ordinance?
You.
J
N
I
would
say
that
use
would
be
regulated
under
this
ordinance
as
a
rental
unit
and
that
a
permit
would
be
required.
The
evaluation
of
whether
or
not
that
application
would
need
a
certificate
of
occupancy
to
accompany.
It
would
be
a
separate
evaluation
that
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can
provide
a
definitive
answer
to.
J
C
J
J
Just
didn't
think
of
that
question
before
the
briefings
I'm
thinking
of
it
now,
I
have
an
absolute
passion
for
single
room
occupancy
that
I've
talked
about
many
times
before,
right
from
in
the
1990s
looking
at
historical
boarding
and
lodging
houses,
of
which
Pittsburgh
had
many
entire
neighborhoods
built
onboarding
and
lodging
houses
which
are
single
rooms,
that's
single
room
occupancy,
so
you
know
you
have
a
room
and
it
may
or
may
not
have
at
the
time
100
years
ago.
J
You
know
they
had
neither
a
cooking
facility
nor
a
sanitary
facility
and
I
see
there's
a
definition.
Jay
here
for
sleeping
unit
that
says,
can
have
a
cooking
facility
or
sanitary
facility,
but
not
both
so
I
guess:
I
have
a
twofold
question:
we
have
been
restoring
single
room,
occupancy
historic,
single
room
occupancy
like
the
YMCA
in
the
north
side,
like
other
YMCAs
around
town.
There
are
continuously
existing
more
than
100
year
old
boarding
houses
in
my
district,
which
of
which
I
love.
J
N
They
would
likewise
be
regulated
under
this
ordinance
and
they
may
need
to
make
an
application.
Hopefully
they
have
an
existing
certificate
of
occupancy
for
the
SRO
use.
N
Old
ones:
no,
if
it's
110
year
old,
one,
those
have
a
greater
potential
to
be
exempt
from
the
certificate
of
occupancy
requirements,
because
both
the
zoning
code
and
the
building
code
recognize
uses
prior
to
the
adoption
of
both
of
those
ordinances.
So
that
that
will
be
part.
Absolutely
part
of
this
regulation.
N
Addressing
those
older,
more
historic
uses
and
navigating
whether
or
not
it
is
appropriate
for
us
to
say
we
need
a
certificate
of
occupancy
or
we
don't
as
part
of
that
application.
But
would
anticipate
that.
We
would
provide
guidance
on
that
and
that
we
would
also
coordinate
closely
with
the
Department
City
Planning
and
the
zoning
administrator
in
terms
of
making
those
determinations
to
an
on.
J
Great
thank
you
and
so
kind
of
along
that
line.
What's
on
my
mind,
and
it's
we've
had
a
long
discussion
at
Council,
including
a
committee
chaired
by
councilman
coghill
on
how
to
house
our
unhoused
population,
and
we
suggested
transitional
housing
right
and
in
that
case,
that
would
be
more
like
a
county
run
facility
and
in
fact
the
county
has
really
turned
a
corner
from
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
is
providing
not
just
at
Wood
Street
Commons,
but
at
some
new
facilities.
J
N
J
Excellent,
that's
that's
what
I
was
worried
about
right.
The
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
shut
down
one
of
our
brand
new
transitional
housing
units
that
we
have
been
working
so
hard
for
and
we
need.
We
need
to
encourage
and
have
more
of
so
that
I
I
appreciate
that
answer.
I'm
glad
you
thought
of
that
and
let's,
let's
hope
this
works.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
That's
all
Mr
chair,
thank.
N
N
There
will
I
presume,
be
a
learning
curve
both
for
us
as
well
as
applicants
once
we
initiate
the
program,
but
it
is
not
drastically
different
than
other
licenses
and
registrations
that
we
already
review
an
issue
and
then
also
perform
inspections.
So
while
a
different
flavor,
so
to
speak,
confident
that
we
can
be
effective
in
enforcing
this
regulation,.
N
N
Yes,
the
the
application
requirement
to
have
the
certificate
is
to
ensure
that
that
use
is
legal
and
then
we're
also
recognizing
that
there
are
standards
under
both
the
building
and
Zoning
code,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
where
there
are
pre-existing
uses
that
were
in
existence
prior
to
the
adoption
of
either
those
standards
where
a
certificate
may
not
be
necessary
in
order
for
that
use
to
be
legal.
N
A
N
The
I
believe
we're
asking
them
to
identify
the
number
of
units
or
some
basic
info
on
the
property.
The
it
is
generally
typical
that
the
certificate
of
occupancy
should,
in
some
fashion,
quantify
either
the
number
of
units
or,
in
some
fashion,
a
number
of
occupants.
A
A
A
Do
I
need
to
come
in
and
say:
okay,
I,
have
three
bedrooms,
and
so
therefore
I'm
getting
a
rental
permit
for
each
bedroom
and
then
does
it
also
regulate
to
say
well,
if
I'm
doing
that,
then
two
families
can
use
this
room.
Two
fans
can
use
this
room.
Two
families
can
use
that
because
that's
where
the
sort
of
the
rub
lies
in
terms
of
how
many
people
you're
actually
allowing
to
then
be
inside
of
a
property
yeah.
N
Part
of
the
inspection
process
would
be
confirming
compliance
or
and
or
conformance
with,
the
certificate
of
occupancy,
and
then
also
the
information
that
the
applicant
has
provided
and
then
the
standards
of
the
property
maintenance
code
in
terms
of
minimum
sizes
for
rooms,
for
example,
and
the
number
of
occupants
who
can
utilize.
N
Those
areas
within
a
building,
so
it's
it's
likely
not
a
necessarily
a
black
and
white
issue
and
likely
something
that
will
we
will
adjust
over
time
as
we
particularly
on
the
air
and
b
and
b
side,
because
it
has
not
been
a
strong
regulation
by
the
city
under
the
building
or
zoning
codes.
So
there
will
be
some
work
for
us
to
to
navigate
those
issues.
A
Just
to
be
clear,
I
have
no
issues
with
this
bill
at
all
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
through.
The
cases
that
have
been
problematic
for
us
is
when
we're
overcrowding-
and
this
doesn't
address
that
problem-
that
issue
the
my
other
question.
This
is
just
a
long-standing
concern.
I've
had
currently
you're
not
allowed
to
have
more
than
three
unrelated
people
renting
inside
of
a
unit.
Is
that
correct.
N
There
are
limits
under
the
zoning
code
under
the
number
of
individual,
unrelated
individuals
who
can
occupy
a
dwelling
unit
and
apologies.
I
I,
don't
recall
what
that
number
is
offhand,
but
we,
the
those
types
of
scenarios,
would
likely
come
into
play
as
we
perform
inspections
and
enforcement
under
this
legislation,
if
passed,.
A
Think
I'm
correct
when
I
say
that,
but
one
of
the
challenges
I
am
Corey.
Thank
you,
Corey
says
I'm
correct,
but
one
of
the
challenges
historically-
and
maybe
this
helps
us
get
there-
is
that
when
someone
says-
and
it's
usually
in
or
around
the
universities
where
they
say-
okay,
there's
not
supposed
to
be
more
than
three
unrelated
individuals
inside
this
unit,
there
are
six
kids
in
here
and
historically,
pli
has
been
able
to
say.
A
Well,
we
can't
actually
prove
that,
despite
the
fact
that
I
can
count
every
morning
how
many
kids
come
out
right
or
can
we
go
get
the
mail
and
see
that
there's
six
different
people
receiving
mail
like
this?
It's
just
been
a
historical
problem,
I'm
not
suggesting.
We
have
a
way
to
address
it.
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through
the
this
legislation
open
up
a
way
by
which
we
can
address
that
piece
of
it.
I.
N
Think
there
is
a
potential
in
terms
of
the
information
we're
asking
as
part
of
the
registration,
as
well
as
verifying
legal
use
related
to
the
certificate
of
occupancy,
and
then
the
inspection
standards.
I
I,
don't
want
to
be
unrealistic
and
say:
that's
going
to
be.
N
You
know
completely
effective,
but
I
think
there
are
opportunities
here
for
us
to
start
to
address
those
issues
and
then,
as
we
operationalize
this
also
opportunities,
either
as
needed
to
modify
the
legislation
and
or
update
our
rules
and
regulations
to
help
address
issues
like
this
that
may
arise
that
we
can't
fully
anticipate
until
we're
actually
enforcing
an
ordinance.
N
A
Okay,
as
as
we
were
sitting
here,
actually
looked
up
a
home
to
see
what
their
certificate
of
occupancy
was,
it's
just
a
regular
snippet
off.
You
see
that
you
have
for
a
home,
but
it's
also
a
home.
That
absolutely
knows
me
right
now
to
students
every
single
year,
so
we
would
then
have
to
report
to
that
individual
once
this
goes
into
effect.
You
now
need
to
follow
this
program,
and
if
you
don't,
we
now
have
a
legal
means
by
which
to
address
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
M
Yeah,
could
you
elaborate
on
how
the
the
contact
that
will
be
the
contact
that
we've
given
to
pli
will
be
helpful
in
other
situations
that
you
run
into
with
you
know,
with
enforcement
yeah.
N
So
I
think
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
face
on
a
regular
basis
on
Code
Enforcement
is
our
access
to
responsible
parties
based
on
the
County's
property
records
and
the
ownership
information
there.
And
there
are
a
lot
of
properties
that
have
either
been
abandoned
and
there's
no
responsible
agent.
But
there
is
still
someone
identified
as
the
the
owner.
N
They
may
be
deceased
having
this
and
having
a
valid
contact
information
of
someone
to
contact
if
there
are
issues,
as
well
as
to
send
notification
to
if
code
enforcement
is
a
requirement
as
part
of
due
to
non-compliance,
that
will
lead
to
cleaner
enforcement.
Magistrates
are
obviously
looking
for
us
to
ensure
that
proper
notification
have
been
provided
to
defendants
and
if
the
registration
process
will
provide
us
with
a
an
individual
who
has
said,
I
am
associated
with
this
property
and
provided
us
contact
information
that
then
we
can
use
to
provide
notification
to
them
right.
M
N
M
N
Necessarily-
and
this
is
particularly
on
the
code
enforcement
side
for
condemned
and
blighted
properties,
we
have
a
whole
host
of
properties
that
we
refer
to
as
dead.
N
We
have
a
name,
and
we
do
have
access
to
databases
to
help.
Do
additional
legal
research.
M
Process
so
yeah,
we
just
want
the
same
standard
where
we
have
a
contact
and
so
I
think
this
whole
I
mean
the
main,
whether
the
a
very
important
part
of
this
of
this
bill,
which
I
think
was
the
original
like
one
of
the
original
intent,
was
not
only
to
keep
people
safe
right
when
you
that
you
know
when
you're
going
to
rent
a
property
that
it's
going
to
be
up
to
code,
but
also
that
if
there
is
a
situation
that
we
need
to
get
in
contact
with
that
owner,
that
we
have
the
proper
contact,
so
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
in
the
dark
anymore.
M
M
Just
you
know,
a
faceless
company,
if
a
paceless
companies
that
you
know
really
just
exacerbated
the
problem,
so
you
know
it's
even
more
than
an
LLC.
It's
just
some.
You
know
online
rental
that
they're
popping
in
they're
popping
out-
and
it's
just
you
know
it
leads
to
issues
like
we
saw
on
the
North
side.
You
know
over
a
year
ago
and
to
have
actual
contact
for
the
neighborhood
to
know.
M
You
know
and
then
to
have
some
accountability
with
like
what's
mentioned
been
mentioned
here
with
Bad
actors
is,
is
essential,
so
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
was
said
that
this
that,
just
that
contact
even
the
process.
When
you
know
people
go
before
you
know
for
citations,
the
judge
or
magistrate
that
we
can.
Actually
you
know
contact
that
person
and
one's
held
to
the
same
standard,
yeah
yeah.
Well,
thanks.
I
have
any
further
questions.
L
N
So
we
do
provide
notification
on
our
website
when
we
make
various
changes,
so
we
would
include
notification
on
our
website.
L
Do
you
want
to
cast
the
widest
net
possible
right
off
the
bat
like
to
councilman
calculus
point
you
have
the
capacity
to
or
is
it
actually
preferable?
If
you
do
the
best,
you
can
and
then
capture
more
and
then
capture
more
kind
of
into
the
system
as
we
go,
I
mean
because
I
think,
if
it's
the
former
I
think
that
continuing
conversations
with
Council
we
have
the
you
know,
we
have
networks
as
well
and
other
other
departments
as
well.
L
N
I
think
it
would
be
most
ideal
to
try
to
cast
the
wise
known
as
possible
and
to
use
as
wide
a
network
of
providing
notifications.
So
if
you
know
Council
or
other
agencies
can
help
coordinate
on
that,
I
think
it
would
be
best
to
try
to
provide
as
wided
notifications.
So
people
are
aware
of
it.
N
I
would
prefer
that,
if
we're
enforcing
this
and
that
they
are
going
to
face
potential
penalties,
that
we
take
as
many
steps
as
necessary
to
make
them
aware
of
that
potential
prior
to
receiving
an
enforcement
letter
from
us.
So.
I
N
It
is
appropriate
for
us
to
to
try
as
much
as
possible
to
do
as
much
public
Outreach
so
that
this
is
not
a
surprise
for
the
people
who
would
be
regulated
by
the
ordinance.
L
Okay,
thanks
we'll
continue
to
you
know,
please
utilize
Council
as
we
as
we
can
be
helpful
in
that
effort
as
well.
L
The
second
thing
isn't
really
a
question,
but
just
to
to
councilman
lavelle's
point
I
have
long
had
concerns
about
our
definition
of
a
family
and
three
unrelated
living
together
and
the
rules
around
that
I
think
it's
terribly
outdated
and
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
solve
it
with
this
legislation
or
today,
it's
much
much
bigger,
but
just
to
note
that
I
think
at
some
point
in
the
near
future,
we
should
have
a
discussion
about
the
outdated
definition
of
family
when
it
comes
to
the
number
of
people
who
are
legally
allowed
to
live
on
the
premises
together.
P
Yeah
so
I
thought
of
some
more
questions,
just
as
as
we
were
talking
so
first
is
just
so
I
I'm,
assuming
the
inspection
criteria
is
just
the
same
criteria
that
you
use
now
right
for
a
building
being
safe.
N
Yes,
so
again,
this
ordinance
points
to
standards
of
the
international
property
maintenance
code.
What
this
legislation
does
is
provides
us
a
right
to
entry
to
perform
those
inspections
So.
Currently,
our
right
to
entry
is
only
if
someone
grants
us
it.
I
C
N
P
N
These
are
maintenance
standards,
so
ensuring
that
there's
a
minimum
level
of
safety
and
that
there
are
no
distinct
hazards
for
the
occupants.
So
it's
not
requiring
updating
things.
It's
really
ensuring
that
the
property
has
been
maintained
appropriately
and
can
be
safely
occupied.
P
Right,
okay,
so
with
that
in
mind,
in
terms
of
like
the
inspection
criteria,
will
there
be
so
I
mean
I?
Can
just
you
know?
P
P
You
have
that
information
and
someone
calls
3-1-1
and
says
you
know
whatever
there's
exposed
wires
in
the
bathroom
that
that
my
landlord
isn't
fixing.
So
what
is
the
process
then?
So
you
call
the
landlord
and
say
we
need
to
look
at
this.
N
So
would
under
the
ordinance
if
they
had
passed
an
inspection,
that
inspection
is
valid
for
three
years.
Okay,
so
under
the
ordinance
we
may
not
take
action,
but
we
may,
under
the
generally,
under
the
property
maintenance
code,
request
access
to
investigate
that
complaint.
To
say
there.
I
N
P
N
We
would
we
do
try
to
have
complainies
remain
anonymous,
a
little
difficult,
obviously
for
rental
units,
it's
obvious,
probably
obvious
that
it
is
a
tenant,
but
we
I
would
anticipate
that
we
would
contact
them
and
say:
hey.
We've
received
this
complaint
and
request
access
to
investigate.
P
And
then
so
that
so
in
terms
of
the
the
folks
receiving
these
complaints,
so
three
one
one:
will
they
I
mean?
Do
you
have
a
plan
to
coordinate
so,
for
example,
so
that
3-1-1
operators
are
familiar
with
the
list
so
that
I
say
though,
say
someone
calls
and
says
my
landlord
isn't
fixing
my
fridge?
Well,
that's
maybe
not
something
that
is
a
pla
right.
N
Typically,
311
is
really
making
aiding
in
routing
the
complaint
to
the
appropriate
agency,
so
they
are
not
typically
making
an
assessment
of
whether
there
may
be
a
violation
or
not,
so
they
they
should
be
aiding
in
making
sure
that
gets
routed
to
pli,
and
then
our
inspector
would
be
receive
that
complaint
and
then
investigate
and
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
complaint.
P
And
then
and
I'm
assuming
this
registry,
that
this
is
all
this
will
all
be
done
online.
So
all
of
this
information
will
be
available
to
so,
for
example,
that's
certainly
so
so,
let's
going
back
to
the
Airbnb
or
even
a
rental
unit,
so
you
a
lot
of
times.
It's
not
just
neighbors
right.
Sorry,
it's
not
just
tenants.
P
It's
neighbors
right,
so
you
have
an
Airbnb
next
door
where,
whatever
there's
parties,
you
know
parties
going
on
that
type
of
thing,
so
they
they
will
call
well
Public
Safety
have
so
if
they
have
a
noise
complaint
which
isn't
really
I
mean
even
in
if
they're
registered
right
a
noise
complaint
is
really
something
that
you
deal
with.
Does
Public
Safety
also
going
to
have
access
to
this
so
that
they
can.
N
It
will
be
within
the
OneStop
pth
system
and
I
would
anticipate
that
it
would
be
available
through
building
our
agency
counter,
similar
to
all
our
other
permits,
licenses
and
registrations
and
I
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
direct
access
Public
Safety
may
have
currently.
But
they
would
minimally
have
the
same
information
that
is
available
to
the
general
public,
and
then
we
can
also
look
to
coordinate
whether
more
direct
access
to
this
data
would
be
appropriate
for
their
staff
to
have.
P
Okay,
okay
sounds
good
and
then-
and
just
sorry
just
so
I'm
so
so
you
have
a
name
because
we
do
get
a
lot.
I
mean
I.
I
hear
complaints
about
airbnbs.
In
particular,
you
know
oh
there's,
so
many
people
coming
in
and
out,
which
in
and
of
itself,
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
fit
right,
but
it's
just
something
that
sort
of
irks
the
neighbors.
So
if
someone
calls
and
says
there's
this
Airbnb
there's
constantly
people
coming
in
and
out
at
all
hours
of
the
night
or
they're
having
part
or
whatever
they
come
to.
P
N
P
Right
so
this-
and
this
is
this-
is
sort
of
what
I'm
getting
to
is
that
again.
This
has
been
said,
but
you
know
this
is
really
about
making
sure
that
the.
How
that
the
house
is
say
that
the
the
the
house
is
safe
for
the
people
who
are
in
it
yes
right
and
that
we
can
follow
up
with
that
and
make
sure
whether,
whether
that
be
an
Airbnb
user
or
a
long-term
tenant
or
a
short-term
tenant
or.
N
So
the
permit
registration
is
required
annually
once
you
pass
an
inspection
that
is
only
required
once
every
three
years.
So
we
want
that
continual
registration
so
that
we
have
that
point
of
contact,
and
we
understand
that
the
rental
unit
is
still
active
and
that
also
allows
us
to
refine
our
fees
so
that
there
we're
anticipating
that
we
would
have
a
fee,
Associated
registration
and
separate
fee
Associated
within
inspections,
so
that
there
would
be
years
where
you're,
paying
just
the
registration
or
administrative
fee
and
not
the
inspection
fee.
C
N
O
N
So
we
would.
We
would
hope
that
a
majority
of
the
applicants
would
contact
us
to
schedule
inspections.
N
But
understand
based
on
our
construction
experience
that
does
not
always
occur,
so
we
would
look
to
use
our
system
to
manage
those
and
Target
provisional
permits
that
have
been
issued
without
a
valid
inspection
and
then
contact
them
to
try
to
schedule
those
inspections.
So.
O
N
Yeah
I,
we
we.
N
Don't
go
inside
now,
but
we
are
right
now
responding
to
tens
of
thousands
of
Wheat
and
debris
complaints.
N
I
understood,
but
also
understand
that
we
are
not
going
to
get
every
rental
unit
apply.
At
the
same
time,
sure
it's
going
to
be
if.
O
N
N
C
N
They
will
not
be
testing
for
lead
paint
under
this
current
version
of
the
legislation.
What
will
they
be
looking
for?
They
will
be
looking
for
compliance
with
the
pro
International
property
maintenance
code
requirements
for
the
rental
unit
related
uses.
So
that
can
be
everything
from
ensuring
that
there's
functional
Heating
and
Plumbing
Systems
to
ensuring
that
the
physical
infrastructure
of
the
rental
units
have
been
maintained
so
that
you
know
there's
no
hazards.
Associated.
O
C
N
N
Apologies
I
want
to
say
2025
in
the
operations
unit,
but
that
may
be
off
I.
Don't
have
org
chart
right
in
front
of
me.
O
Okay,
I
guess:
I'll
I'll
trust
your
judgment,
it's
hard
to
imagine
again,
because
a
lot
of
the
complaints
I
get
are
delays
with
pli.
Now,
whether
it's
a
weed
or
you
know
unsafe
structure
and
to
add
God
knows
how
many
more
calls
you're
going
to
get.
You
can't
even
anticipate
right.
N
We
we
can
estimate
and
predict
as
best
we
can,
but
until
we're
actually
there
you
know
no
one
knows
for
sure
what
the
real
volume
will
be,
but
again
based
on
other
programs
that
we
have.
We
have
a
good
organizational
understanding
of
managing
applications
and
inspections
and
doing
so
in
a
systematic
fashion
to
ensure
timeliness.
So.
O
If
an
inspector
goes
in
finds
something
a
violation,
they
are
then
to
correct
it,
and
then
the
inspector
has
to
come
back.
Yes,
I
gotta.
Imagine,
there's
40
50
000
rentals
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh.
That's
just
I'm,
just
guessing
okay
I'm
concerned
about
your
workload.
I
am,
but
you
seem
confident
that
you
can
handle
it
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
M
Yeah,
that's
really
good
point
clarification
because
I'm
not
sure
it
was
said
it
was
like
it
would
be
online,
like
the
information
we
get
from
people
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
going
to
be
like
a
public-facing
online.
You
know
database
that
the
public
can
go
and
look
at
because
the
Commonwealth
Court
took
issue
with
that.
So
this
would
be
an
internal
this
will.
This
will
only
be
internal
so
that
we're
you
know
making
sure
that
this
that
were
upholding
something
that
will
sustain
the
test
of
time.
N
Yes,
if
there's
restriction
on
the
information
that
we
can
make
publicly
available,
we
would
limit
that,
but
to
the
extent
that
basic
information
in
terms
of
there
is
a
rental
permit
associated
with
the
property.
M
M
N
N
Is
it
received
an
inspection?
Has
it
the
final
permit
been
issued
Etc
so
that
there'd
be
basic,
publicly
available
information
to
verify
whether
someone
had
a
registered
and
whether
we
had
issued
a
permit.
M
Okay,
other
than
that
just
want
to
thank
you
for
running
a
tight
ship
and
being
operationally
ready
to
take
this
on,
which
has
been
a
long
top
priority
of
council.
So
thanks.
C
O
N
Yes,
okay
and
we
will
have
contact
information
and
we
will
have
a
process
to
to
manage
that
and
to
provide
opportunities
for
individuals
to
provide
us
access
and
then
also
procedures
if
they
refuse
as
entry
to
perform
those
inspections,
we
would
seek
an
administrative
warning,
but
yes,
it
I
don't
want
to
minimize
it,
but
there
will
be.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
management
here
and
but
not
not
far
afield.
N
From
other
things,
we
do
I
mean
we,
we
issue
10
000
permits
a
year,
and
we
we
manage
those
relatively
well,
and
we
have
that
organizational
experience
that
can
apply
to
this
in
a
in
a
similar
fashion.
N
K
J
This
should
be
a
number
I
think
that
Council
should
have
in
front
of
it,
but
it
just
kind
of
speaks
to
the
reason
we're
doing
this,
which
is
we
don't
really
know
exactly
how
many
apartments
are
out
there
in
the
city
right,
and
so
we
can
like
impute
right.
It's
like
okay,
so
there's
like
150,
000
or
so
dwelling
units,
and
we
know
that
like
half
the
population
are
renters
right
because
they
responded
to
this
U.S
census
or
something
like
that.
J
So
it's
conceivable
that
there's
something
like
70
to
80,
000
Apartments
out
there
and
again
just
a
reminder:
it's
not
like
a
new
city
where
they're
not
always
obvious
from
the
street,
because
they're
not
all
in
big
apartment
buildings
where
you
drive
past
it
and
that's
clearly
an
apartment
building
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
our
older
single-family
homes,
the
the
homes
that
were
built,
a
single
family
that
have
been
converted
into
apartments
or
operating
illegally,
as
departments
some
of
them
may
be
way
over
the
you
know,
zoning
permit
there,
you
know,
might
be
legal
to
have
three
apartments
in
that
house
that
maybe
it
was
their
grandmother's
house
or
maybe
it
was
a
house
somebody
just
bought
and
is
operating
his
Apartments,
but
they
might
have
chopped
it
up
in
eight
apartments,
and
so
we
really
don't
know
and
that's
why
we
need
this
registry
so
that
we
actually
really
know
where
the
apartments
are
and
that
we
can
make
sure
that
they're
habitable
and
up
to
code
and
safe
electrically.
J
You
know
safe
for
the
neighbors
too.
This
is
a
fire
hazard
in
neighborhoods,
where
there's
maybe
illegal,
wiring
and,
and
there
is
a
very
highly
densely
packed
neighborhood
of
Timber
houses.
So
this
is
just
a
fundamental
issue
that,
like
we've,
been
struggling
with
this
rental
registry
for
so
long.
Sometimes
we
forget
to
mention
the
very
basics
of
why
it's
so
fundamentally
necessary
that
we
know
where
apartments
are
and
can
inspect
them.
J
So
again,
it's
been
a
very
long
road.
Let's
keep
our
fingers
crossed
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
the
kind
of
the
there's,
a
significant
volume
in
the
city
of
Pittsburgh
about
half
our
residents
are
renters,
it's
way
closer
to
60,
thank
you
so
yeah
and
in
some
neighborhoods
it's
higher.
J
P
Yeah,
so
just
into
just
to
sort
of
underscore
what
so,
if
you're
a
landlord
you
register
your
property
and
that
the
info
is
basically
just
contact
information
unless
you
have
an
occupancy
permit
but
which,
for
a
single
family
home
probably
doesn't
apply,
but
so
it's
basically
just
contact
information.
You
register
and
then
pli
will
get
in
touch
about
scheduling
the
the
inspection
at
some
point
right.
Yes,.
N
The
legislation
does
point
to
the
if
the
applicant
fails
to
request
an
inspection
within
a
time
frame
that
we
would
contact
them.
Okay,
so
I
presume
that
there's
going
to
be
some
variation
or
spectrum
of
applicants,
some
who
will
be
proactive
and
look
to
schedule
those
inspections
and
get
their
permit
quicker
and
some
that
we
will
need
to
manage
and
probably
contact
more
than
once
before
we
can
perform
that
inspection.
Yeah.
P
So
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
just
so
that
landlords
are
not
afraid
of
this
right.
You
just
register
it's
basically
just
contact
information
like
you're.
Just
saying
I
have
this
right.
You
know
here's
kind
of
be
a
modest
fee
and
whatever
that
ends
up
being
and
then
you'll
have
an
inspection.
So
if
you
have
an
apartment,
that
is
a
decent
apartment,
doesn't
have
wires,
sticking
out
and
doesn't
have
you
know
the
ceiling
caving
in
like
a
place
where
then
you're
you're
going
to
pass
your
inspection
yeah.
K
P
N
It's
also
the
landlord's
could
also
show
a
past
inspection
as
potentially
a
selling
feature
to
tenants,
because
some
independent
agency
pli
has
inspected
this
to
a
National
Standard
and
found
it
to
be
safe,
to
be
occupied
and
to
be
a
legal
rental
unit.
So
not
everyone
necessarily
will
fall
in
value
in
that,
but
there
can
be
some
value
there
and
could
Aid
in
their
ability
to
rent
those
units
tenants
having
confidence
that
those
units
are
safe
to
occupy.
P
In
these
inspections,
pli
will
not
be
looking
to
see
if
you
have
a
pet
that
you're
not
supposed
to
have
on
your
lease
or
if
you
have
likes,
you
know
your
partner
living
with
you.
You
didn't
necessarily
like
that
is
not
what
pli
is
interested
in.
That's
not
what
they're
looking
at
so
tenants
also
do
not
need
to
be
worried
about
this.
No.
N
L
L
You
know
what
they've
traditionally
been
inspecting
on
trash
and
late
and
early
set
out
and
improperly
stored
trash
and
have
ramped
up
their
ability
to
do
that
and
after
a
meeting
with
them,
I
thought
it
would
be
valuable
for
all
council
members
and
staff
to
hear
our
briefing
on
that
I'm
thinking.
Perhaps
in
the
new
year
when
we
have
two
new
Council
offices
and
new
staff,
that
might
be
a
good
time
for
that
and
perhaps
a
conversation
about,
but
their
role
will
be
around
weeds
and
debris.
L
If
and
when
this
goes
into
effect-
and
just
you
know
for
all
of
us
to
be
aware
of
this
new
system,
because
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
it
is
resulting
in
more
houses
that
are
improperly
storing
their
garbage
ending
up
in
magisterial,
District
Court
and
that's
helpful
to
us.
So
I
think
the
system
is
working
and
I'd
like
for
everyone
to
just
you
know,
have
the
same
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
know
about
this.
C
B
C
M
Willing
yeah
motion
to
hold
for
five
weeks.
L
C
C
L
A
B
Bill
1940
resolution
providing
for
an
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
outdoor
inclusion
Network
for
the
purpose
of
establishing
a
geared
lending
library
for
use
in
Riverview
Park
and
the
co-creation
of
training
that
prepares
youth
serving
organizations
for
outdoor
camping
experiences.
This
service
is
provided
at
no
cost
to
the
city
ocean.
B
Q
Sure
Catherine
Vargas,
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
City
of
Pittsburgh
thank.
L
You
this
should
be
a
short
conversation.
I
really
just
wanted
to
bring
you
up
here
to
be
able
to
highlight
this
amazing
program.
I
can
actually,
if,
if
councilman
Wilson
has
I,
don't
know
how
much
a
part
you
were
of
this.
But
if
you
also
like
to
say
a
few
words
or
I
can
defer
to
you
as
well,
but
having
come
through
the
city,
this.
L
This
committee
I,
wanted
to
make
sure
to
highlight
this
great
work.
So
if
you'd
like
to
I'll
defer
to
the
councilman,
and
then
you
can
describe
it
a
little
bit
more
as
well.
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
person,
so
yeah
I
think
this.
This
started
whenever,
when
I
introduced
the
the
bill
to
allow
you
to
enter
into
authorized,
you
know
the
director
of
parks
and
rec
to
to
what
is
it
to
enter
into
contracts
with
yeah?
You
know
to
make
that
decision,
whether
or
not
camping
will
be
permissible.
M
You
know
in
any
of
our
Parks.
Yes,.
Q
And,
and
so
first
I
do
want
to
thank
you,
councilman
Wilson,
for
your
support
in
getting
us
to
where
we
are
now.
It
was
about
a
year
ago
when
we
changed
code
that
would
allow
us
to
consider
what
it
would
look
like
for
young
people
to
have
access
to
our
parks
to
to
camp,
and
so
this
particular
agreement
is
actually
a
result
of
the
conversation
we
had
with
Council
around.
You
know
the
best
way
to
move
forward
on
this.
Q
What
it
does
is
it
allows
per
the
code
change
for
the
director
of
the
department,
the
city,
to
have
those
agreements
with
folks
who
would
actually
be
doing
the
campaign.
We
are
maintaining
that
relationship
internally,
but
the
partner
who
we've
been
working
really
closely
with
this
initiative
on
and
how
they
sort
of
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
here
is
by
way
of
having
the
resources
to
provide
materials
that
ended.
Q
You
know,
organizations
and
groups
can
use
to
be
able
to
Camp
because
that's
an
expensive
feat,
and
that
is
at
no
cost
to
us
as
the
city
and
then
also
working
with
us,
along
with
our
Pittsburgh
Park
Rangers,
on
developing
a
training
to
ensure
that
anybody
who's
coming
into
the
park
to
do
this
has
a
baseline
understanding
of
like
what
it
means
to
be
a
good
Steward
of
of
you
know
of
the
park
while
practicing
campaign
and
that's
for
adults,
it's
for
young
people
and
so
right
now
we're
in
a
position
where
we've
developed
that
training
we've
developed.
Q
What
the
relationship
could
look
like
around
the
use
of
of
outdoor
gear
in
the
park,
and
we're
excited
that
this
would
allow
us
to
move
forward
in
starting
to
get
that
relationship
established
and
and
working.
This
fall
with
first
piloting
this
in
Riverview
Park
with
councilman
Wilson's
support,
and
then
you
know,
of
course,
seeing
what
that
means
in
the
future.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this
development.
M
Q
They
actually
represent
a
whole
host
of
organizations
locally
and
across
the
state
that
work
in
the
outdoor
space,
and
so
they
have
been
they're
a
new,
a
newer
entity
in
the
city,
and
this
being
one
of
the
initial
things
that
they've
been
really
trying
to
establish
and
work
towards
is
figuring
out
what
it
means
for
our
parks
to
be
more
inclusive
overall
and
and,
like
I
said
they,
they
build
a
coalition
of
organizations
that
we're
all
really
familiar
with
that.
Q
Do
this
work
with
with
young
people
with
adults
across
the
state
to
not
just
tackle
issues
around
Equity
like
access
to
camping,
but
to
also
tackle
issues
around
how
welcoming
and
how
inclusive
our
Park
spaces
and
outdoor
recreation
spaces
are
so
they've
been
a
great
partner.
It's
been,
you
know,
we're
excited
to
see
this
happen
and
again
our
first
partnership.
Here
there
will
be
directly
impacting
young
people
who
are
on
the
North
side
near
Riverview.
M
Yeah
I'm
pumped
about
this,
you
have
friends,
Riverview,
Park
and
very,
very
supportive.
The
course
Conservancy
has
been
very
supportive.
M
I
really
appreciate
your
enthusiasm
for
this
and
all
the
work
you've
done
to
get
this
to
this
point
and
then
also
the
you
know:
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
you
know,
meet
the
outdoor
inclusion,
Network
and
you
know
see
them
already
volunteer
in
the
park
and
see
what
they're
already
doing
currently
in
the
park.
M
You
know
some
of
those
entities
that
make
up
that
that
Coalition
yeah
I
just
want
to
reiterate
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
inner
city
youth
to
have
opportunities
to
camp
in
the
Parks,
and
you
know
I
see
just
like
you
said
it's
only
gonna.
You
know,
promote
our
parks
and
probably
keep
us
in
check
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
parks
are
up
to
a
certain
standard
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
a
fabulous
opportunity
for
our
youth
and
I
am
I'm
very
excited
that
it
will.
Q
Yep
and
I'll
just
also
mention
that
the
Department
of
Public
Works
and
the
Department
of
Public
Safety
have
both
been
great
Partners
in
this
internally
as
well,
impacting
both
of
those
departments
to
make
sure
that
this
happens.
So
there's
a
lot
of
us
working
to
to
try
this
out
great.
A
P
So
yeah
this
is
very
exciting.
I'm
I'm
glad
to
see
this
pilot
moving
forward
and
just
to
throw
it
out
there.
A
couple
days
ago,
I
was
in
Hayes
Woods
to
see
so
Duquesne
Light
needed
to
open
up
an
access
rather
have
to
move
a
transmission
tower,
so
it
if
it
was
a
bit
of
a
shock
to
see
such
a
large.
You
know
this
big
road
sort
of
cut
out
of
the
woods,
but
walking
walking
down
it.
It
really.
Q
L
No
I'll
just
more
broadly-
and
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
and
more
broadly
I-
do
think
that
outdoor
recreation
is
one
of
the
sort
of
unsung
or
unspoken
drivers,
for
it
can
be
for
economic
development,
for
attracting
people
to
a
city
and
I'm
really
enthusiastic
about
you
know
from
efforts
like
this
to
make
sure
that
it's
fully
inclusive
to
all
residents,
not
just
newcomers
who
you
know
already
feel
comfortable
in
our
Parks
to
the
work
that
say,
Venture
Outdoors
is
doing
to
potentially
move
or
hopefully
move
their
kayaking
to
the
convention
center
and
give
a
whole
bunch
of
people
opportunity,
like
that's
going
to
be
an
economic
driver
to
climb
PGH
which
wants
to
allow
for
climbing.
L
So
many
opportunities,
I'm,
really
enthusiastic
and
I-
want
to
see
more
of
this
throughout
the
city
as
a
way
to
you
know
not
just
bring
people
back
downtown
but
bring
people
to
Pittsburgh
overall
as
visitors
and
as
as
residents.
So
I
just
wanted
to
state
that.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
and
for
everyone,
who's
been.
You
know
vital
in
making
this
happen.
C
O
And
you
said
you
have
people
to
supply
everything
they
need
tense.
Yes,
things
of
that
nature.
Yeah.
Q
Q
So
we've
been
working
with
the
outdoor
inclusion
Network,
since
it's
piloting
in
Riverview.
Currently,
we've
been
focused
on
the
North
side
and
working
with
organizations
that
work
with
young
people,
particularly
through
the
summer,
because
we
wanted
to.
We
were
hoping
to
get
this
a
little
sooner
this
summer
established,
but
we're
working
with
organizations
that
work
with
young
people
as
our
kind
of
primary
group.
But
schools
have
also
been
involved,
especially
on
the
North
side,
our
partnership
with
the
Rangers.
Q
We
have
a
footprint
in
all
of
the
elementary
schools
and
they've,
been
part
of
of
developing
the
training
and
and
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
interested
Partners
who
are
signed
up.
So
we
we
developed
the
training
together,
we're
going
to
do
the
training
first
with
stakeholders
on
the
North
side
that
we've
been
engaging
and
then,
as
we
we
roll
this
out
as
a
pilot.
We
would
broaden
that
Outreach
for
sure.
Q
Is
definitely
interest.
We
definitely
have
a
number
of
or
youth
serving
organizations
who
have
come
to
meetings
regarding
this
so
that
they
kind
of
understood
what
the
what
we
would
be
looking
for,
so
from
the
just
being
able
to
use
the
gear
understanding
what
that
Arrangement
that
they
would
have
to
have
with
you
with
outdoor
inclusion
Network
to
do
that.
Q
What
we
are
hoping
to
establish
by
way
of
the
training
requirement
and
then,
of
course,
for
any
agreement
with
the
city,
understanding
that
we
need
insurance
clearances
for
any
adults
involved
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we've
had
those
conversations
with
interest
and
partners
and
we
do
have
a.
Q
O
Sure
there
will
be
a
lot
of
interest.
I
would
think
so.
I
think
I
asked
you
this
last
year
too,
but
were
we
permitting
campfires.
Q
So
we
have
gotten
approval
under
just
with
the
Rangers
guidance
to
use
a
solo
stove
for
a
camping
fire
like
s'mores
experience
yeah,
but
that
it's
very
regulated.
So
it
would
not
happen
without
the
Rangers
being
there
and
being
in
charge
of
that
engagement.
So.
Q
It's
it's
a
much
safer
way
to
have
a
fire
in
a
in
a
Park
area.
It's
like
a
newer.
It's
not
gas,
but
but
essentially
the
the
Rangers
have
agreed
to
be
a
part
of
this
by
way
of
offering
a
a
night
hike
and
s'mores
kind
of
experience
for
about
two
hours
of.
O
O
Q
O
O
Q
So
that's
part
of
the
agreement
that
it
has
to
be
the
partnership.
The
partner
like
permit
is
with
the
organization
with
the
adult
leaders
who
we
have
their
clearances
and
their
insurance.
They
are
they've
gone
through
the
training
and
they
are
responsible
for
the
young
people
that
they
are
bringing
who
we
also
have
like
parent
forms
from
good.
O
Good
I
look
forward
to
good
job
Bobby
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
how
this
turns
out.
A
B
The
1919
resolution
amending
resolution
number
484
of
2022
further
amending
resolution
number
647
in
2021
authorizing
the
mayor,
the
director
of
permits,
licenses
and
inspections,
the
director
of
City
Planning
and
the
chief
of
innovation
and
performance
to
enter
into
an
amended
professional
service
agreement
or
agreements
with
building
I
Inc
to
purchase
software
in
related
support
services.
That
will
create
an
interactive
map
for
internal
and
public
visual
display
of
planning
permit
license
and
violation
data
by
increasing
the
approved
amount
by
79
600
for
an
amended
total
cost
not
to
exceed
567
340
over
eight
years.
P
P
K
P
Great,
so
this
is
for
for
basically
an
online
portal
that
would
allow
the
public
to
see
where
things
are
right
with
permits
and
licenses.
Etc.
K
Correct
right,
so
this
this
tool
actually
exists.
C
K
Had
it
for
roughly
eight
years
and
we've
been
expanding
on
it
for
for
that
duration
of
time,
and
ultimately,
it
provides
the
data
accessible
to
the
public
as
a
self-service
project
product,
and
they
can
run
reports
review
current
events
in
permitting
enforcement
planning
and
just
it
meets
the
the
data,
accessibility
and
open
data.
The
governance
needs.
P
N
Yes,
it
would
show
whether
we
had
an
open
enforcement
case,
File
and
history
related
to
that
it
was
relatively
recently
I
think
maybe
the
last
year
or
so.
We
are
also
including
data
related
to
outcomes
for
court
hearings,
so
providing
the
public
independent
information,
so
they
can
follow
whether
or
not
the
magistrate
has
made
a
determination
of
guilt
or
innocence
or
whether
it's
been
continued.
So
there's
additional
transparency
and
information
available
to
the
public
so
that
they
can
follow
independently
things
that
are
occurring
on
the
code
enforcement
front.
P
Right,
so
that
was
what
my
my
question
was
going
to
be
so
with
with
the
information,
because
we
get
that
a
lot
where
you
know
we're
calling
the
magistrate
to
find
out
where
it
is
with
the
magistrate
and
it's
just
sort
of
like
it's
not
really,
it
would
be
nice
if
that
was
on
there
and
also
we
let
people
know
that
you
know.
If
there's
a
hearing,
you
can
go
right,
you
can
go
so
will
all
that
be
in
there
eventually,
like
the
the
date
of
the.
N
Apologies
I'm
not
sure
of
the
data
that
is
currently
exposed
in
terms
of
whether
it's
identifying
the
date
of
the
hearing
prior
to
the
hearing
occurring
or
not
I.
We
can
follow
up
to
verify
that,
but
it
is
absolutely
identifying
that
a
when
a
hearing
has
occurred
and
then
whether
what
the
outcome
of
that
hearing
was
does.
N
It
would
identify
that
we've
performed
an
investigation
and
that
it
has
transferred
to
the
court
process
I'm,
just
not
entirely
sure
I,
don't
recall
specifically
if
it
is
identifying
a
specific
court
hearing
date
in
advance
of
that
hearing
or
not.
P
Okay,
I
mean
again
if
this
is
with
the
development,
if
I
mean,
if
that
was,
if
that,
if
it
was
possible
to
get
that
information,
that
would
be
great,
but
then
also
if,
in
short
of
that,
you
know,
contact
information
for
the
court
so
that
the
property
owner
can
call
and
find
out,
and
maybe
even
just
up
a
pop-up
or
a
sidebar
or
something
that
explains
that
you,
you
can
go
to
the
court.
P
The
court
process
is
not
in
our
hands
and
so
to
make
that
clear
for
the
public,
and
that
would
certainly
be
easier
for
us,
because
then
we
can
just
say:
oh
here's,
the
you
know
we
were
like
this
property
is
such
and
such
be
like.
Oh
well,
here's
a
link,
and
you
know,
and
if
it
hasn't
been
inspected
in
you
know
a
number
of
years
or
there
hasn't
been
a
recent
complaint.
Then
then
we
know
okay.
Well,
let's
get
something
going,
but
it,
but
they
can
see
if
there
was
one
already
logged
recently.
J
Hi
everybody
I
I,
have
a
long-standing
data
question
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
on
this
app
or
it
would
be
on
a
different
one
and
I
have
some
I
was
just
searching
to
see
my
sent
emails
to
our
last
director
kinter
about
trying
to
figure
out
per
year
how
many
new
dwelling
units
are
permitted
like
occupancy
permits,
because
there's
a
general
debate
in
the
city
about
you
know:
are
we
building
enough
housing
or
where
are
we
building
housing?
J
Where
are
we
not
building
housing
and
there's
been
like
on
social
media
people
sharing
just
building
permit
data
so
like
The,
500
Apartments,
where
there
was
just
a
ribbon,
cutting
on
Liberty
Avenue
next
to
Iron
City
or
is
listed
as
one
permit,
as
if
it
was
one
one
dwelling
or
something
I'm
like
you're,
using
the
wrong
data.
You
know
the
city
really
truly
hasn't.
Actually,
you
know
you're
trying
to
tell
the
public
they're
sharing
this
information
publicly.
The
city
only
has
done
like
200
permits
in
the
last
three
years,
so
I'm
like
oh,
no,
no!
J
No,
it's
way
more.
It's
thousands
of
new
apartments
or
housing
units
that
have
been
built
and
so
I
emailed,
Dr,
kinter
I
think
it
was
earlier
this
year
and
and
she
it
wasn't
as
easy
as
I
hoped
and
I
can't
see
the
exact
email
and
these
microphones
are
like
right
at
like
eye
level.
I
can't
see
anyone's
eyes,
it's
the
most
curious
thing:
it's
like
we're
hiding
behind
them.
So
can
you
speak?
Where
is
that
data?
So.
N
N
The
information
that
I
think
you're,
referring
to
in
terms
of
new
construction
dwelling
units.
N
We
are
legally
required
to
track
that
and
we
have
that
data
within
our
system
and
I
believe
we
publish
it
to
the
data
warehouse
on
a.
N
N
J
Can
we
add
it,
though,
if
we
want,
because
you're
like
I
I,
guess,
keep
thinking
you're
you
at
the
end,
let's
see
a
warehouse,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
examples
of
this
farther
up:
Liberty
Avenue
like
just
around
the
corner
from
the
other
one.
It's
like
used
to
be
the
plant
warehouse,
and
now
it's
like
20,
expensive
Condominiums.
J
N
J
N
Yeah
conversions
change
in
use,
which
we
are
not
required
to
so
we
are
not
currently
proactively
tracking.
N
J
N
So
there's
a
mix
we
have
Professional
Services
with
the
developer
software
developer,
who
performs
some
of
those
improvements,
and
then
we
also
do
a
fair
amount
of
improvements.
In-House
various
individuals
within
the
agencies
involved.
So
pli
has
staff
who
help
to
configure
there's
also
staff
in
Domi
and
City
Planning
and
then
I
believe
some
staff
in
imp
who
also
help
so
it
depends
on
the
nature
and
complexity
of
the
the
Improvement
or
enhancement,
and
we
try
to
be
selective
and
Tackle
those
things.
J
This
is
I'm
saying
for
me:
I
think
this
is
really
important.
We've
just
passed
legislation
promoting
conversions
of
office
towers,
for
example,
downtown
right.
Those
would
be
invisible
to
our
total
counts
of
occupancy
permits
right.
So
you
know
we're
have
about
to
have
probably
more
across
the
across
the
city
across
the
country
grade
A,
you
know,
offices
are
really
vacant
and
trading
hands
and
the
big
potential
here
is
for
us
to
convert
those
into
living
units.
So
we
don't
want
to
not
get
credit
that
cannot
let
the
public
know.
C
J
We're
creating
housing
units
in
our
reporting
and
we're
currently
Under
reporting
the
amount
of
dwelling
units
Maybe
by
zero,
but
maybe
by
one
or
two
or
maybe
by
a
lot.
We
don't
know
because
we
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
us
yeah
and
it's
and
it's
a
priority
of
the
administration.
It's
a
priority
of
council
to
to
do
this
conversion.
So
let's
make
sure
that
we
can
capture
that
information
yeah.
So
if
you
need
anything
from
us,
let.
N
J
Right,
and
especially
since
you're
about
to
bring
online
because
of
the
legislation
we
just
voted
on
earlier,
probably
you
know
possibly
a
lot
of
occupancy
permits
with
like
counts
of
units
that
wouldn't
be
new
construction,
so
good,
good
timing,
glad
I
asked
all
right.
Thank
you.
C
C
B
A
Discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
firms
of
recommendation.
We
have
exhausted
our
agenda.
Our
meeting
announcements
are
as
follows.
This
afternoon,
Council
will
hold
a
briefing
on
the
August
23rd
Garfield
Garfield
standoff,
shooting
in
the
August
25th
Smithfield
incident
with
the
first
session
beginning
at
1
pm
and
the
second
second
session
beginning
at
2PM.